Title: What conclusions can be drawn about the related accounts. Post by: YOSHIE on March 08, 2024, 03:59:04 PM I accidentally visited the campaign: Topic: 🚧 [CFNP] Undeads.com - P2E Runner Game | USDT Signature Campaign (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5487442.0), which is managed by: @julerz12, because the campaign rules state clear rules.
https://zizihub.com/66b373.jpg There I saw two suspicious accounts, whether they were Alt or otherwise, because I saw that they had both made proof of transactions with each other in BNB. Proof: https://bscscan.com/tx/0x0e410d2bc565b2d305ba6fce0609277d3eea4de0098f46bd96c87028a70e3489 https://zizihub.com/9b9d31.jpg And proof they registered in the same campaign. https://zizihub.com/df7b14.jpg The account in question. 1. naikturun (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1005198) 2. GreenStox (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=412228) And this is the address they used in the campaign. bitcointalk username :naikturun [ Archive (https://archive.vn/wip/96wye) ]telegram username : @Darthg bsc wallet address : 0xc2fCdE211037Dd5865739C28A2EEC21b9468e149 bitcointalk usernamen : greenstox [ Archive (https://archive.vn/wip/96wye) ]telegram username : @realpoloo bsc wallet address : 0xB86b110c09185f016F2aD4e4751E9fA8080d2924 Because currently I haven't found any other evidence, apart from transactions, so I have to receive real input to say whether the account is fraudulent or not. I told the manager. Title: Re: What conclusions can be drawn about the related accounts. Post by: Rikafip on March 08, 2024, 04:14:59 PM Because currently I haven't found any other evidence, apart from transactions, so I have to receive real input to say whether the account is fraudulent or not. They do have a very similar (if not the same) posting style so there's that.Another thing, GreenStox had a very different posting style in the past and was actually engaging in discussions, compared to know being a classic sig campagn shitposter. Such a big change makes me think that account may changed hands sometime in 2017. Title: Re: What conclusions can be drawn about the related accounts. Post by: yahoo62278 on March 08, 2024, 04:43:40 PM Is there only the 1 transaction between the 2 or has there been more? It's possible that they just made a transaction between the 2, although the past has shown that accounts are normally linked when we see this.
So far alts is not confirmed but I'm sure there will be some digging. Curious if either will respond here. Title: Re: What conclusions can be drawn about the related accounts. Post by: YOSHIE on March 08, 2024, 05:53:23 PM Is there only the 1 transaction between the 2 or has there been more? @yahoo62278, you ask a good question, I can open my eyes to other points, to other transactions they do.They both had made two other transactions to the same address. Evidence can be presented for both. 1. Transaction carried out by: @naikturun to the same address. https://bscscan.com/tx/0x9ee5dab15e02ff62fdcf36812093cd6ff48e3011fefdbe787b356dc4b24969d8 https://zizihub.com/07c047.jpg @naikturun:0xc2fCdE211037Dd5865739C28A2EEC21b9468e149 0xf3e64BCeAd4b59B6aB4041978409A4881642D0C1 https://bscscan.com/tx/0xa96160f0af0800ea86caf815bd437d283972e18d630ba9132eac59e697e83514 https://zizihub.com/abc324.jpg @naikturun:0xc2fCdE211037Dd5865739C28A2EEC21b9468e149 0x260e69ab6665B9ef67b60674E265b5D21c88CB45 2. Transaction carried out by: @GreenStox to the same address. https://bscscan.com/tx/0x9faeb688f75415b8071c6a64df2688f7cd86a4e4a1196bc16ef6a194d61acc87 https://zizihub.com/003371.jpg @GreenStox:0xB86b110c09185f016F2aD4e4751E9fA8080d2924 0xf3e64BCeAd4b59B6aB4041978409A4881642D0C1 https://bscscan.com/tx/0xff58cfa8c6d217659fe5d11570031bad5c4e118dc6fa85b8e04a0142c23acd84 https://zizihub.com/2e4697.jpg @GreenStox:0xB86b110c09185f016F2aD4e4751E9fA8080d2924 0x260e69ab6665B9ef67b60674E265b5D21c88CB45 In this second piece of evidence, I believe that both Alts were involved in cheating in the campaign managed by: @julerz12. They do have a very similar (if not the same) posting style so there's that. Maybe, but the evidence above, being stronger, they are still the same person, regardless of their posting style.Title: Re: What conclusions can be drawn about the related accounts. Post by: lovesmayfamilis on March 09, 2024, 07:50:42 AM Perhaps the same awakening at the same time would also be an additional point so that we could combine both accounts in a connection, although of course in other cases this would not be relevant. But also, joining a subscription company seven minutes later creates the impression of synchronicity in their behavior.
https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/03/09/yc9M1.png https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/03/09/ycBJm.png https://bpip.org/Profile?p=naikturun https://bpip.org/Profile?id=412228 Title: Re: What conclusions can be drawn about the related accounts. Post by: FinneysTrueVision on March 09, 2024, 09:57:41 AM There is enough circumstantial evidence in my opinion to conclude that it is the same person behind both accounts. Enrolling in a campaign several minutes apart is suspicious enough for two accounts which are connected by way of blockchain activity.
There is also their writing style. They make low quality generic posts and often begin sentences with a lowercase letter. Here is another piece of evidence which is more conclusive. Both addresses sent COMBO tokens to the same Binance deposit address on the same date January 12, 2024. https://platform.arkhamintelligence.com/explorer/address/0x0523300676644D6CD149783a3fB12FCD2f2190BF There are also two other wallets that deposited COMBO tokens to that address on the same day as well, which means they enrolled 4 accounts in that specific bounty campaign. The other addresses are 0x0f9503c524EcD090C0353b178Eab79d4d9d5419a and 0xcA8C176E4c29876DaEF952c3a2FeA2685A7Afcf8 which belong to gaston castano (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=991514) and huu78 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=988947) https://ninjastic.space/search?content=0x0f9503c524EcD090C0353b178Eab79d4d9d5419a https://ninjastic.space/search?content=0xcA8C176E4c29876DaEF952c3a2FeA2685A7Afcf8 huu78 also applied to the Undeads.com bounty just minutes before the other two alt accounts. bitcointalk username : huu78 telegram username : @clarisaclara bsc wallet address : 0xcA8C176E4c29876DaEF952c3a2FeA2685A7Afcf8 Title: Re: What conclusions can be drawn about the related accounts. Post by: Aanuoluwatofunmi on March 09, 2024, 02:20:14 PM It is quite written on the campaign rule not not to participate with alt account and i don't think that the campaign managers do make a follow up in checking on those abusing this rule except such is being discovered by the members who run a check on any suspicious account or the ones linked together, it is clearly showing in this regard that the two account have something in common and more likely to be owed by the same person and having alt is not the problem here, but enrolling them on the same campaign is against the rule.
Title: Re: What conclusions can be drawn about the related accounts. Post by: decodx on March 09, 2024, 03:02:00 PM Sr. member account cryptoknightt (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=232796) could also be part of the same farm.
sMerit sent from cryptoknightt to naikturun https://talkimg.com/images/2024/03/09/y4AGf.png https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?from=cryptoknightt&to=naikturun Using the same telegram username: @Darthg Quote bitcointalk username : cryptoknightt https://ninjastic.space/post/63480385telegram username : @darthg tonkeeper address : UQBCwjir7zx5wIcAi29gWzJAFYBr6001VEfDqLBFnLqk2y4Y bitcointalk username :naikturun telegram username : @Darthg bsc wallet address : 0xc2fCdE211037Dd5865739C28A2EEC21b9468e149 cryptoknightt posted it first (but later deleted) in a completely unrelated thread, two months before naikturun, so there's no chance of accidental copying. Title: Re: What conclusions can be drawn about the related accounts. Post by: nutildah on March 09, 2024, 03:20:44 PM Here's things simplified a bit, the 5 accounts that all share a Binance deposit address (https://bscscan.com/tokentxns?a=0x0523300676644d6cd149783a3fb12fcd2f2190bf):
https://talkimg.com/images/2024/03/09/y4Q79.png slashz9 has several deposits to this address, and the timing between the deposit of Combo Tokens by the other accounts makes me believe they are all owned by the same person. Here we see an address used by both slashz9 and huu78 (https://ninjastic.space/address/0xB16B36cD92a6086C30D49ff8e8a02661b22f44b2), which confirms they are alt accounts. Here we can see that gaston castano has already been connected to several bounty-cheating alt accounts (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5460819.msg62623599#msg62623599). This is pretty clear evidence to me that all accounts are owned by the same person, but I'll have to perform one more double-check before issuing red tags. Title: Re: What conclusions can be drawn about the related accounts. Post by: Rikafip on March 09, 2024, 05:41:13 PM Curious if either will respond here. If they have any brain, they won't respond here and will just stay low as the more they bullshit and argue here, the more people will dig into their history to find something. And there is always something to be found among those shitposters. Maybe, but the evidence above, being stronger, they are still the same person, regardless of their posting style. Of course, that goes without saying. Still, not a bad thing to have more arguments.Title: Re: What conclusions can be drawn about the related accounts. Post by: SmartGold01 on March 10, 2024, 07:07:49 PM Sr. member account cryptoknightt (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=232796) could also be part of the same farm. sMerit sent from cryptoknightt to naikturun https://talkimg.com/images/2024/03/09/y4AGf.png https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?from=cryptoknightt&to=naikturun Using the same telegram username: @Darthg Quote bitcointalk username : cryptoknightt https://ninjastic.space/post/63480385telegram username : @darthg tonkeeper address : UQBCwjir7zx5wIcAi29gWzJAFYBr6001VEfDqLBFnLqk2y4Y bitcointalk username :naikturun telegram username : @Darthg bsc wallet address : 0xc2fCdE211037Dd5865739C28A2EEC21b9468e149 cryptoknightt posted it first (but later deleted) in a completely unrelated thread, two months before naikturun, so there's no chance of accidental copying. For two account to use same Telegram ID shows that they are connected and neutral tags can be given to both account and again it is also a merits abuse by sharing merits across both account that is being controlled by one single user. For cheating in one bounty the manager have all possible right to remove them from the campaign since is already in the campaign rules. Title: Re: What conclusions can be drawn about the related accounts. Post by: Awaklara on March 11, 2024, 04:32:49 AM For two account to use same Telegram ID shows that they are connected and neutral tags can be given to both account and again it is also a merits abuse by sharing merits across both account that is being controlled by one single user. For cheating in one bounty the manager have all possible right to remove them from the campaign since is already in the campaign rules. When in the past there was evidence that the two accounts connected to the Telegram ID apparently joined the same bounty campaign, it does not rule out the possibility that a negative tag would be more appropriate than a neutral tag. I'm sure some people are still collecting evidence. even though Merit transactions and proof of blockchain transactions have been published here.regarding accounts caught joining the same campaign. the manager has made a good decision by disqualifying them immediately. Even though the bounty manager doesn't tag them personally, these accounts are definitely on the manager's blacklist. Title: Re: What conclusions can be drawn about the related accounts. Post by: Timelord2067 on March 11, 2024, 05:41:05 AM gaston castano [BPIP (https://bpip.org/Profile?p=gaston%20castano)] woke up the same day as GreenStox [BPIP (https://bpip.org/Profile?id=412228)] ( 2022-08-28 )
A couple of others who give these users merit either woke up or changed their passwords a few days either side of each-other, but the above were within four minutes of each-other. (Just a side note, I can't access @LoyceV's weekly DT trust lists for users, so I can' see who DT trusts who in this group) I'm going to go out on a limb and say qweqwe2121 [BPIP (https://bpip.org/Profile?id=1807281)] might also be a part of this clutch given they merited [this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5217817.msg53716662#msg53716662)] Title: Re: What conclusions can be drawn about the related accounts. Post by: SamReomo on March 11, 2024, 12:58:31 PM After reading all posts of this thread, and observing everything, I also believe that the both users can most probably be alt accounts. Like some members have pointed, there can be other accounts that might be in hands of a single person who's enrolling in multiple campaigns.
I believe we need more evidence in order to know those other accounts which might be in the hands of same person, however those two accounts are most probably alts. After viewing the post history of both users, I found that both have them make similar length posts which is another sign to show that those accounts are in possession of a single person. Title: Re: What conclusions can be drawn about the related accounts. Post by: Btcdeybodi on March 11, 2024, 02:47:24 PM In 2021, actmyname gave a neutral feedback to naikturun and GreenStox as part of spammer blacklist coupled with the two accounts being shitposters as some of the users here have identified their style of posting. possibly the both accounts are controlled by one person
https://talkimg.com/images/2024/03/11/yb8Zj.jpeg https://talkimg.com/images/2024/03/11/ybKkG.jpeg Title: Re: What conclusions can be drawn about the related accounts. Post by: YOSHIE on March 13, 2024, 05:50:51 PM Situation is still the same case, Alt cheating is detected, this happens in: Topic: 🚧 [BOUNTY] Chain Joes - The Future of Web3 Gaming (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5484849.0), which is managed by: @julerz12, from the reviewers it was detected that the most Alts were involved in cheating on the Twitter section, I saw that almost 50% of the participants involved Alts, the rules clearly state, there should be no cheating Alts.
I found evidence of the transactions they carried out. Connected accounts: 1. Lichi60 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3437564) 2. Laldam (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3558597) Proof: Bitcointalk Username: Lichi60 [ Archive (https://archive.vn/wip/A9xZS) ]Telegram Username: @Jannati776 Metamask Wallet Address: 0xD2da91A893E8610461c547Ba899C0b0f3f7BD11B Bitcointalk username: Laldam [ Archive (https://archive.vn/wip/Kxu57) ]Bitcointalk profile link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3558597 BSC address: 0x1AF87658204540762457B78884CD41d55D7ec11b 0xD2da91A893E8610461c547Ba899C0b0f3f7BD11B 0x1AF87658204540762457B78884CD41d55D7ec11b https://bscscan.com/tx/0x8402b77579814a1ffe56717fe87452b78d8b7b7e2604b31b52f223a09550f17b https://zizihub.com/62341.jpg Connected accounts: 1. adam15adnan (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2379533) 2. yemmakoli (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2364811) 3. deshaorpi (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2367017) 4. oliviahannah (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2355841) 5. sornasarmin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2347242) Proof: Bitcointalk Username: adam15adnan [ Archive (https://archive.vn/wip/B538t) ]Bitcointalk Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2379533 Telegram Username: @Brownsinba BSC Wallet Address: 0xDf1B1B4279AcD444766588528721f3786FAD701F - Email: adam15adnan [ Archive (https://archive.vn/wip/OB0gN) ]- BSC (bep 20) address : 0x6E0a1fC74866Eb0889Be081D11Bc9EdeB3658b98 - Telegram Username: @brownsinba2 Bitcointalk Username: yemmakoli [ Archive (https://archive.vn/wip/Y2CnJ) ]Bitcointalk Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2364811 BSC Wallet Address: 0xC98523219C3c792eEb2Dac8B90E761A5d842671A Forum Username: deshaorpi [ Archive (https://archive.vn/wip/WEzhZ) ]Forum Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2367017 ETH Metamask Wallet Address: 0x6f093029882BDA20073F95104bC6fCb1EBB3F4Bd Forum Username: oliviahannah [ Archive (https://archive.vn/wip/3XcmQ) ]Forum Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2355841 Telegram Username: @nusibanuha2 ETH Metamask Wallet Address: 0x3aaf1C0A927d8AaF455A0a00A0D5c5E715e5664d Forum Username: sornasarmin [ Archive (https://archive.vn/wip/AS9Q3) ]Forum Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2347242 Telegram Username: @afrinjara015 BSC Wallet Address: 0x8030867B6096b7D9De2E8b5B1Be03C0ce43D03D3 Here I took proof from the address used by: @adam15adnan, all accounts above and below are involved in carrying out transactions with each other. Proof: https://bscscan.com/address/0xDf1B1B4279AcD444766588528721f3786FAD701F https://zizihub.com/12b743.jpg Connected accounts: 6. urmenisa (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2353705) 7. ballalahasan (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2355920) Proof: Bitcointalk Username: urmenisa [ Archive (https://archive.vn/wip/LjLXZ) ]Bitcointalk Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2353705 BSC Wallet Address: 0x54e78Ec80F2966c0150e2FD976af7aF374Ab0a20 Forum Username: ballalahasan [ Archive (https://archive.vn/wip/JYnSW) ]Forum Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2355920 Telegram Username: @ballalahasan BSC Wallet Address: 0x9e39492945a7a21E055C7b0a6f367311Bd1a9F60 Here it can also be proven by the address used by: @urmenisa, also connected to the user above. https://bscscan.com/address/0x54e78Ec80F2966c0150e2FD976af7aF374Ab0a20 https://zizihub.com/310921.jpg • Lichi60: (293) • Laldam: (11) • adam15adnan: (279) • yemmakoli: (278) • deshaorpi: (273) • oliviahannah: (274) • sornasarmin: (283) • urmenisa: (280) • ballalahasan: (282) All of these are Alts that are detected through transactions, which they carry out in several places. |