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While in a football view centre last night, some of the football fans were arguing with the opposite football fans strongly defending their teams.

There one of the team guy said... Yes we loosed the match but that does not mean I will deny my team for that because the nature of football is that you would win somedays and you looses somedays too.
So he say... I love my team to the core that I will always stand by them and even if it is obvious that they were going to loose a match, I will still bet in support that they would win the match.

Question: Can you have so much love for your team to behave like this guy that even when you know your love fans team would loose a match, would you still further stake on the match against your team?
Remember that we are catching funs here and whoever chasing after profits is at its own will.

If I were to be asked if I would do what he did? I would answer yes, why? Maybe that's my way to show that I support them even if they win or lose. It's just like normal idolization, isn't it? Sometimes even with the amount of negative things and issues we hear about the person we admire, we still can't get the person we idolize to get angry or let go. It's the same when it comes to this game, especially when it comes to sports. Since not everyone watching there are really fans, the others are just there for betting and gambling so for me there is no issue if I will bet even if I know I will lose the money I bet because I am there to support and enjoy.

That is not making any sense.

Why would I? When I am not stupid. If I know a club would win my team, I will stake on the other club.

Gambling is not about betting on your team to win.

It depends on someone placing a bet.

There are really some people who are a die-hard fan of a specific team that will do everything to support their favorite or the team they love. If they see the opponent as someone stronger and undefeated, they will continue to provide their support up to the point of even losing money on their bet.

However, if you are someone who just focuses on your winnings, of course, you will not come to the point of sacrificing your bet just because you love a specific team.

This is not love it is either a low level of intelligence.

Better not bet than to bet on a team when you know they'll eventually lose because of strong fanaticism.

A display of high intelligence is to bet on your team to win and the other team to win. In the end even if your team losses, you end up with a heart break but with money in your pocket.

I think this is Arbitrage Betting which I discussed in one of my [ DO NOT POST SESC LINKS ]OP's[/url]

It all depends on how the team is doing, right, if the opponent is better I wouldn't mind betting on my team's opponent, after all, we're talking about money lol. Betting against doesn't mean you stop liking or following your favorite club, in my opinion if you don't mix games with passion you can make good money betting.

This is the very definition of fanatics.

But in sports betting, we should not used our emotions, we should used statistics and numbers to see who has the "potential" to win in a game, and not that because we love one team we will always bet on them. So for me I wouldn't stake if I know that my team is going to lose, it's not smart in my opinion. And we all know that gamblers make money because they know where to put their bet, that is the team that will likely to win.

There’s no such thing asan obvious lose in sports. The odds is just placed based on statistics of the team as reference but doesn’t mean that team with higher odds will surely lose.

You are betting on sportsbook because you like to support the team you are betting to win the game not just because you place bet on it. Regardless of the odds, I usually place bet to my favorite team as way to enjoy the game. My priority is for my team to win and not about my bet. Anything can happened on sports and your team will not be in lose no matter how high the odds until the game end. There’s a lot of bet with 1.01 odds that still resulted to lose.

I can Support my team in every other ways but I can not  bet on them when it's already obvious that they will not win the game, it is considered foolishness to do such and not love for the team. You can not do anything to displease your self while pleasing your team meanwhile those football players are receiving salary but the gambler or team supports are not getting paid for their support, so while will I throw away the opportunity to win a game just to gamble against my team. I will not hesitate to gamble against my team if I know that they will lose the match.

There is an option to not bet and just support the team you love. you don't have to lose money out of support, I'm not a rich guy to bet blindly out of loyalty, and I can still have fun watching and cheering for my team I'm not a risk taker I want to bet where I have a chance to win.
I am a fanatic on some of my favorite teams I will just hope and cheer that they win, my reasoning is I'm just a regular worker and every bet for me is important if it's not worth betting, then go for it, I'm sure they understand it.

First of all, I don't have a team yet, all teams are mine or none of them are mine. Let's say if I were on place of that guy then I would also do the same but I would bet minimum amount that may not cause any trouble for me even if I lose it. I'm very sure if the guy thinks like me then he would also bet with lowest amount possible in order to avoid facing huge losses because of favoring a weak team.

It happens. This is why hardcore fans cannot gamble especially when their bets are only for their team most of the time.
I understand the feelings because I have these mistakes too. I have been a fan of two teams in the NBA and sometimes it hurts my feelings when I bet against them.
There's a solution though, don't bet at all. Especially if you knew that the losing chance is way higher than the winning chance. Sure, the profits will be high because it's a high-risk bet for the underdog but still, it's not wise to just waste away money for the love of the team. You love them, but I doubt they love you back.
If a gambler's aim is to win but being a fan is a wall to that winning chance then just forget about betting. A big fan can still enjoy the game without the money on the line.

I'm not a team fanatic and I believe in the saying gamble with money that you can afford to lose and will not hurt your pocket, but if there's a chance of upset I'll bet a small amount an amount that I'm good in losing but if there's zero chance of winning like my favorite team facing a powerhouse team like US in basketball, I prefer not to bet, you have to be practical and realistic in your bet and you don't have to bet blindly.

This should actually be the meaning of gambling for fun that so many people talk about. I know a number of gamblers that do this especially in sports betting when their favorite team is playing. They think they are standing in solidarity with their team and that is one way of showing loyalty. On the contrary, there are also people that avoid playing their favorite team so they don't get their emotions involved in the gambling decision making process.

I do not gamble with my emotions attached because I see gambling as business so I will not place bet on a team I support. It does not even make sense to play a team you know is weak and cannot win, unless perhaps you just want to throw the money away.

Looking at the content of your story it seems that I will conclude that the person you told is a true supporter who always defends and supports his team regardless of the circumstances, and his understanding of soccer is about winning and losing it is clear because that is how the game cycle runs in every season.

On the other hand I have several teams that I favor but I am not too totality in terms of supporting and maybe I can be said not to be a true supporter, but I think this does not matter because everyone has their own choices in any case, and if you ask me if I will be willing to risk money even though I know that my team will lose because of something like the performance of my favorite team is lower than the opposing team then obviously the answer is I will not risk anything and I am not more than just giving them support. On the other hand, I don't think it makes sense to bet when you know in advance that your team is likely to lose for some reason, and it doesn't matter if you're a true fan or not, it's still a wise decision to make because it's a matter of money and if you don't bet then you're not going to lose any money, right? Yes, favoring and supporting a team doesn't always have to mean betting.

Yes why not? that indicate that person is real supporter of that team and not a bandwagon which if he's team lose then he go away then support the team who became champion this year and then again cycle repeat once there's new champion.

That guy don't care if they win or lose since what's important for them is to have fun watching his favorite team performs. Chasing profit maybe not the real case here and maybe we can say that is the main intention of the fan or sports bettor if he always go on the teams which have more chance to win.

No one can predict the outcome of a game correctly and that is why it called is called gamble. A team that you think will not win due to their poor performance can disappoint you later after the match by winning. The guy can bet on his club even in their weak state, is because he is a die hard fan of his club.

Sometimes, even the weak club can win a string club, football is unpredictable. However, we all have our choices on how to spend our funds, and we can bet on whatever club we fill like betting on. Personally, I will not bet on my club in their weak state, rather I will be on the other club that is stronger than them. I am gambling does not mean that I should intentionally throw my funds away, even though I am gambling with the amount that I can afford to lose.

When it comes to gambling, it's entirely a different environment. That your bragging right as football fan changes to a business mindset, if the opponent club is going to obviously win my team and i know that deep down in me, i will definitely play against my team, this is business and shouldn't be emotionally attached with mere football fantasy, this can only happen in a case where i decide to play a bet against my team, but if its on neutral ground and me not involving my money, i will the ordinary want my team to win.

Soccer fans are a movement that not only supports their favorite team, but also follows them no matter how far to play. I love soccer, but I've never been an avid fan. Although when I was in high school, some people I knew were so into soccer that they traveled all over the country with their team to support them. Each of us chooses how to spend his leisure time, the main thing is that it does not overstep the boundaries of what is allowed and does not violate the laws.

If we talk about betting, I do not see anything wrong when a bettor bets against his team. Such a bettor knows better than anyone what condition the players of the team are in, so why should he not make money if he is sure that the team is not at its best.

Just because I'm a die-hard fan of a certain team doesn't really mean that I should bet on them to always win, I'll be falling victim of what is called fan bias, which is a tendency for a fan to make decisions based on their emotions rather than objective information.

This involves me betting on my team to win even when the odds are against them, gambling is unpredictable and you can't just expect that particular team will always win simply because you want to see them win, such sentiments should only come in play when a fan is merely being supportive to his team but not to extend it to gambling, because the result would be very fatal.

Actually, you don't have to bet money just because we as supporters bet on the team we love, for example I am very happy with a team like Manchester City, I know that they are a strong team and last season they could win the treble, but this season they are not as strong. last season and I admit it consciously so it's not because I love this team that I continue to bet on them, actually there are other options betting on other teams and not betting on this team. for example, when Manchester City played Liverpool yesterday where I chose to bet on a draw.

I don't doubt the strength of the team that I love, it's just that I know that it's difficult to win at Anfield so I prefer to bet on a draw even though Manchester City won at the start but it didn't last long. Liverpool was able to score a goal and the result was a draw, sometimes we don't have to either. betting on the team we love, there are many other options that you can bet on and it doesn't always have to be your favorite team either, after all it is enough to be a supporter who is not too excessive and just normal, so betting doesn't have to be betting on your favorite team, betting on the team you really have. The mentality to win is not to have the mentality to lose.  ;D

This will have to depend on two things, if he is betting on the team only for the reason of love he had on them then i think such gambler is yet to know what is at stake for him because he is just wasting his time, money and efforts on nothing, but on a contrary reason, someone can decide on taking risk on the bet to go for the small losing team for a win, i have seen a lot of scenarios where a small team beats up a big one by chance of luck which if he does that on such purpose is never a bad idea, he is taking high risk and could earn big odds through such, even though not all cases of bets or games happens that way.

Maybe for some people betting on a team they love, even though it has the potential to lose, is a gambler's mistake. However, football fans tend to have loyalty to the club in difficult conditions. This is makes many people continue to bet on the team even though it has the potential to lose. It's not just about higher odd for lower team or potentially lose. His feelings and love for the club made him choose to bet on his team, no matter the results. Others are people who don't love the club, but want to take a chance on the bet. well, in the end, this is a world of gambling, sometimes to be strange to accept.

Die-hard fan. I've been there. Betting for them even though the odds are too obvious that they are not going to win. It actually satisfies my need because I love betting for underdogs a lot of times. But, there are times that we need to stop ourselves when we are losing money at the same time.
We can always just pretend that we made a bet for them, enjoy watching the game and cheer for them as if we are part of the team.
It's not wrong but we need to be responsible with our bets. Try arguing with a die-hard fan and you won't win. Their minds are closed and they will protect the team they are rooting whatever the argument could be.

Just like your friend has his own decisions and discipline, that's how every other person has theirs. Some people can actually take every action just to prove to others how much they love their team, but I believe that those actions are not very necessary. There are other ways to show support and love for your team, apart from staking your money on them, knowing fully well that you will lose that money. I don't see how such an attitude is a smart move; it's rather a dumb attitude. In football, we can support and defend our team, butwe do not take part in their wages, and as such, we should gamble on them to win and not to lose.

I don't think that I would do the same if I know or it is obvious that my favorite team would lose the match.
There are other ways to show support, and I don't think betting even a small amount or any amount would change the outcome of their match.

  I don't think this guy loved his team to such an extent to bet on the team even if there possessions is not good, you can love your team for one good reason but I don't advise you to bet on your team even when you are already aware that the team is not strung enough to defeat their opponents.
   However, the gambler have his own reasons to love his team to that extent, I don't agree with this is were I do not adept.
   My question to this team lover is how can you get on something that you know will not benefit you anything? what kind of happiness does it provide?
   As a gambler even if you are the type that gamble for fun I do not see any good reason you will bet on game that will not provide anything for you.
   Even if you a gambler that doesn't gamble for profits you will not want to lose your money but if in any case you win you would also be happier than when you lose, so no body wants to lose their money on anything.

To answer the question of the OP, a simple no: if I know that the team I love or idolise will lose and I will make a bet, then I will choose to win. There are two scenarios: yes, I have a basketball team that I idolise the most, and I support them in every match they have, but when it comes to gambling or betting in the NBA, if I know that they have a lower chance of winning, then I will bet on the opposing team. In short, yes, I do love a specific team, but that doesn't mean that I will be stubborn and let me lose my money in a bet where I already know that I will lose just because I still support the team that I idolized. But maybe for others, they will be stubborn and think that being a fan is heavier than being abettor.

I always say in my post that there's a possibility of an upset but it depends on who my favorite team is fighting if there's a zero chance that my team can beat the opposing team I prefer to cheer, there's no obligation to bet for your favorite team it's your money and it's your decision unless you don't mind losing money which for me is a big deal even I'm betting for fun I have to take a chance on winning money and I can do that if my chance is 50/50.

I don't think so, because it is my momey that I placed bets on, not other peoples money so why should I commit such a suicide thing? 😅 We are here in this gambling industry to beat the system by winning our bets, it is not fun  to insist since you have stated that the situation is "obvious" on the losing side so why would I? I am here to gamble and win not to donate.

Same thing with being a die hard fan right? Well there are times you would consider forgetting yourself being a fan of a team or player given that it is gambling we are dealing. If you want to stand with what you 'love' then you might just consider watching the game and not bet at all. But since you are considering to bet then it would be more than standing with your bias, but also considering the consequences. The reason why I am saying this is because of the word 'obvious' losing of your favorite team. However, if you won't bet that much and you want to be a fan of that team badly then you are free to do so. Just be mindful that if that team is at disadvantage then losing is more likely the outcome. With that being given then at least limit your bet. There are really bettors who does so and that is for the concept of 'love' we are discussing about.

I don't really think there's a difference between being a fan and having love for a team. A lot of persons usually have love for their club and would do anything to support them no matter the bad mouthing some opposite fans would give to their team, they would still defend them in any way they can. For me, I can do anything to support my team but to some limit. We don't have to be blinded by our love for a team even when we see clearly that they are losing and not doing well.
When it comes to gambling, we should be able to make the right decision that would affect our odds and betting positively. Gambling is fun yes, but sometimes we have to take it seriously and do the right thing. If for any reason my team no longer does well, I will still love them but would bet on an opposite team who has more odds to win.

If they realizes, they don't need to arguing each other because that's no used because if their team can't improves their skills, their teams can't win. The supporters should accept the lose of their team and not arguing because of their performance needs to improve. It's better we don't have so much love to our team and just support them as it should be. That will makes us to become a wise supporters without arguing or doing other things that can harm us. Placing a bet or not for their team is depends on each people because they should know what they must do when their team playing against the other teams. Placing a bet is just for having fun and not because of makes money so we don't have to thinks much about the match.

Is this really love or is it stupidity because why would I bet on my team even though I love them just to lose money when I know that they will lose a game instead of betting on them to lose again, I rather just support them without using my money. We are gambling for fun, and a chance to win money, It is not fun to loose money.
If a gambler makes a choice in gambling just because of the emotions they have towards an option, they are more likely to loose. It Is a different thing when you bet on the underdog in a game to win because you believe the possibility of them winning is there even though you do not love them, and when you just bet on the team that you know will lose just because you love them.

Just let them be and its their money that they do bet so if they would really be having that kind of approach when it comes to the teams that they are betting. Dont make out those kind of argumentation or quarrel in between those fans or bettors because they would neither be making those kind of bets which they do mind about making profits or really just that for the sake of their support on the team. No one really knows
and there are really indeed bettors who would really be sticking into their teams no matter what or even it is really that on great disadvantage. Its their choice to make not ours.
We do have different targets or goals in our mind when we do make some sports betting.Your money your rules as always.

This is a very wrong mentality of some gamblers because I don't see any reason why you should stake on your favourite team to win even when you know too well that they are facing a stronger opponent of which peradventure they might lose the match. Though some persons just love their team with so much passion such that they would always support and even choose to lose money in the process why trying to show their loyalty and love for their team.

Gambling though it's a game of fun and luck, but since money is involved, one shouldn't take because you always want your team to win at every match and deliberately decides to lose money in the quest of supporting your team. After all, apart from the fun when supporting a team more especially a winning or a big team I don't see any benefits that fans even gets why supporting their club and besides if you decides to deliberately lose a bet just because of your passion for your team, I believe when you don't have money to take care of yourself and your family, your team doesn't know you not to talk of supporting you when you go broke. No matter how much we love our team, we shouldn't be so blindfolded to make bets in their favour even when we know vividly that they ain't gonna win.

I like to chase big odds  ;D and if my team has a big odd I will stake on it. Afterall we say gambling is risk and luck, so anything can happen in between, it is a game and upset do happen. On a serious note also, if it has odd that is very tempting, I will go for it. For example if my team is given 15+ odd against the other team with 1:37 odd, then I will try my luck with my team that has such big odd. Again, I can check up some options that will be preferable to bet on it because such option will also have higher odds since the main odd is high.

The buttom line is that it is the odd that is given to my team that will determine if I will bet on it or not but if they are of same odd with no much difference then I will just allow that go. I have won very high odd games unexpectedly even when others don't believe it will be possible.

Many people are very fanatical about their favorite team, but it comes back to themselves. If you don't like or understand gambling, I think that's a normal thing, because many people are like that just because they are too fanatical without caring about winning or losing with their favorite team when asked to bet because they are not gamblers.
In contrast to those who are fanatical but like to gamble, this will be a consideration. And if his favorite team already knows that he will definitely lose, then his choice is not to bet or to bet that he thinks will definitely win because this involves the money at stake.

i've done that twice, but do i regret it? no, because i think that gambling and my liking for the football team are two different things. when i gamble, i gamble according to logic, not with my heart. because even if i bet on them, will that change the situation and make them win?

my money is more valuable than the victory of my favorite team. even though i was very annoyed when they lost, if i already knew that they would lose in the end why should i bet on them? it's better for me to save my money and buy their merchandise, at least it will help them a little.

There is no connection with what you are discussing here with love, gambling is not done for the sake of love, but you can bet on your losing team in the name of trying out your luck, maybe because of the big odds the bet will carry, and I don't think I will be stupid to see my losing team and stake on them just because I love the team. No doubts, that we may have some people do that for obvious reasons, but the bottom-line is that I kind of see this just as a mere talk, but will have been better discussed if you see this gentleman back his words with action, that is putting his money into action.

This is something I have seen countless times from different gamblers , I mean over here there is actually a saying which goes that we don't have a team when it comes to gambling and even me sometimes have stake against my team which is Manchester united to lose despite the fact that am a supporter of that club because from where am standing only a good team with good form is worth staking or betting even if we do it for fun.

In football betting, people often bet in favor of their favorite football team, and if they think their team isn't going to win then they rather not include that match in their games. This has a lot to do with gambling for fun, you will surely want your favorite team to win their games, so putting a small amount of money on them for fun is not bad, the point here is that you should not gamble with an amount you cannot afford to lose, because a person who is gambling with a lot of money would not play games for fun because of what they stand to lose.

This is a die hard fan that will do anything just to support his favorite team, and if he can afford to lose that money then it's fine.

I will not bet on my loosing team but still I can support them in the sideway and just continue cheering with them but not to extent that i will lose money.

This is gambling, and that kind of emotion should be disregarded and stay focus on your goal when it comes to betting, and that is to win money.

Yeah, definitely. That's actually something that makes betting fun, as it should be. You have a favorite team, maybe your local or national team, and you would root for them regardless of their opponent. Placing a bet on them, on a stake you can afford to lose, makes the game even more exciting for you than it was before. Now, you are rooting for your favorite them even more. If they win, on top of your happiness and good times you'll also walk away with a nice profit. If they lose, well, based on the odds I guess it was something expected to happen and you also didn't lose a large amount of money.

Why would someone bet on a team knowing that the outcome of the match is going to be negative and he's relaxed to lose bets just to see his team losing. This is not a good way to gamble even though we are there for the fun. We do gamble for fun but not at this time when things are very hard for some persons because of increase in inflation making price of things to be more expensive.

Actually there is no way we could be very certain that a particular team will lose in sport bets. Normally tables turn and we might see a different outcome from what we thought it's going to be the result. There are some matches we don't have to be too confidence of predicting the results. We need to be very wise.

The love of the fans is overflowing and passionate, instead of caring for a little money, they care more for their love, too many fans around the world spend extra money on different activities for what they love, so even when a team is destined to lose, the fans still contribute a little hope with bets, which is a support without any calculating ambition and should respect such people. On the contrary, when we are not a passionate and loyal person, betting is just a step of ambition, it may be a favorite but it is not to the point of having to devote more so that our self falls to the point of failure.

And do you believe that? I think the fan is just running his mouth. There are instances where you can bet on your team to win because you know they've a history of winning a particular team even in their poorest form which I quite understand. However, no one in his right senses would bet on a team that's he's certain it going to lose.

I wouldn't do that. I don't have that kind of love for my team that I'd be that dumb to bet on them when I know I'm going to lose my money.

You’re literally throwing away money at this point. That’s not being supportive to the club you support, that’s being downright foolish.
Knowing fully well your club has no chance of winning a match and still go ahead to place bets on them winning is crazy. Personally, I wouldn’t place a bet on the club I support if I perceive the opponent to be much stronger.

Placing a bet on a club to win a game they ordinarily wouldn’t isn’t supporting the club, you’re supporting the casino you played at and losing some money in the process.

Well it is possible if that person is a die hard fan of such team to the point that he does not care if he losses money in the process. But from that kind of perspective, you can see and observe that the person does not AIM to profit in gambling. Rather, he views gambling as a method of support for his team in which he would feel betrayed if he betted against it.

The better answer to this question is that it purely depends on the goal of a person.

If a person is loyal to a certain team to the point that he does not care if it losses or not, then I guess it is possible to bet on an obviously losing team. On the other hand, if a gambler just wants to bet on a team that has the highest chance of winning, even if he likes the other team more, then he would be inclined to choose the opposing team for the sake of profiting and earning money in the process.

The odds are significant, I'm not betting on games that I'm fully aware that I'll missed out on the gigantic profits, I've a club that I supports though when it comes to gambling, keep favoritism apart and do the necessary based on statistical data. There's money in the system, we can continue to grow in all levels because we're always sorting out means to continue earning in the system. Never backing down from hitting the nailed on the head, finished the necessary moves to earn good profits from the system. A favorite team us adhered by the viewers and everyone in the system have a club they're supporting.

Gambling might be for fun but it is not for waste of money. I am a sports bettor who is also a loyal fan of a club but I will not bet on my club now because they are not doing well. I will support my club in any match but there are matches that I will not bet on them because it is glary that they would lose the game. An example is Chelsea, a club that has a lot of fans but I am sure many of them will not place a bet on them if they meet clubs like Manchester City, Liverpool or Arsenal.


There might be gamblers who don't care about their club's performance because they want to give them the necessary support. But I would prefer to give them morale support than lose money because I am loyal to the club. He will keep losing money until he becomes disappointed if the club keeps underperforming.   

The reason why gamblers bet the most is for them to have a winning in their gambling stakes, and not the other way round "to lose their bets"

I would rather choose not to bet than for me to bet for a club that I am a fan to win when I do know that their performance is way too bad for them to be considered to win a simple or tough match

Yes, I think sport fans are guilty of this. Many are torn between betting on their teams or the opposing team. They feel it’s a betrayal to bet against one’s own team. They do not consider themselves a true fan if they bet against their team. In my side of the world, people are superstitious and might take blame upon themselves if they make such bet and their team lose. Not everyone supports this logic, they gamble for profit and do not want to lose money to their feelings. For them, bets are made based on analysis and not emotion.

Being fanatic or even hard-core fan of respective team doesn't mean you can bet on them even when it's obvious that the team is going to lose, I don't get any financial benefit from a team I love and I choose to watch them because they feel connected in someway to be because they might be playing for my nation and reasons like that.

Stop confusing yourself with you love towards the sport and being a successful sport bettor, if you want to make money then you should bet against the team you love if you find reasons that they are going to win despite its against your favourite team.

If you would bet on the obvious option that will loose just because you want to satisfy your emotional attachment, it is the same as just setting on fire the money you want to use in gambling.

Take compensation for your team disappointing you, and be happy that your club at least made you some money.  

To bet on a losing team might just be same as betting on a wounded horse to win the race. No matter the kind of love that exist, it would have been better to just give the funds in form of alms to someone who needs it the most, rather than give it to the betting company to enrich themselves the more.

I won't dare place a bet on a losing team, mostly when I know they would lose because am betting first of all to double my funds and no, there's no such love without the reward as a fan, that will be as intoxicating as winning clearly, because no one knows the next time they might win again.

I don't shift the questions of likes and money bets, so if I find value in a bet against my favorite team then I will do it.
The thing I would pay attention to is this: whichever side that fan (or any other) chooses, on average the bookmaker will take his margin. Therefore, it is easy for him to “always be with his team” since from the point of view of mathematics there is no difference which team to bet on  ;D

Well, let me first say that I am the kind of person who is always conscious and faces reality in all I do. Football or any other game is not going to make any difference, I use my head correctly and am not biased when it comes to judging rightly. I believe this would have told you that I am not an extremist in football, so I will not bet on my team when I know that they are not the favourite to win after carefully doing my analysis. It would be foolish of me to still go ahead to bet on the team that would lose, it is tantamount to wasting money senselessly, why should do that?

What I would also like people to know is that gambling and being a fan of football are two different things. If you want to support your club, just do it as you like, you can be an ardent supporter but don't be foolish about it. You can do all the supporting when you argue and watch the team playing, but when the money is involved (betting), play it sincerely. In this state, you shouldn't bet at all instead of betting on what you sincerely know that you would lose your money to.

This makes me come to the next question, Yes, I can bet against my football team, and also Yes, I have done it many times. To be specific, in EPL, I support Man U, and I often bet against them. Even at times when Man U played rubbish, I scolded them instead of believing that I could be pampering them despite not being impressive at times.

I don't know about other people but I wouldn't do that even though I like the club that is playing but when the probability is very small to win then I don't really want to take the risk because after all the love for a club and the gambling that we do are 2 different things so I don't want my objectivity in researching a match to be interrupted by the subjective that I like one of the clubs.

Because after all, the bets made are for our own benefit and we will not be able to make bets that are clearly possible to lose because of love alone because in my opinion it is a naive and selfish act.
The love for a club sometimes interferes with the research we do in a game so rather than being unable to be objective in this case then I think it would be better not to bet on it.

For those people who find it difficult to bet against their teams, I will quote what Thierry Henry said when asked why he left Arsenal and I hope this helps. He says “ I love Arsenal with all my heart but I am a competitor first and foremost.” I think that should be the mentality one should have when gambling, your desire to win should come first before your passion for your team. If you can’t separate the two, it’s best you play other games and don’t stake that match.

I think this depends on the mood and the amount of funds I have for that day because I believe that if the funds is available and it won't cost me anything then as a football lover and a supporter of the club, I wouldn't mind staking on the game or the team even if they are losing because I would be just be doing it for the love of football and nothing else even if I am certain that they will lose and besides there is no certainty to that happening so I guess we will just have to just till the game is decided.

In some cases this may happen. This may happen in case of football or cricket but if the betting is done for the purpose of making money then no choice is made in the betting regardless of the preferred team. In cricket I whole heartedly support Pakistan but if Pakistan and Australia face each other in any important match Australia has 80% chance to win and Pakistan has 20% chance to win but I will back Australia in betting too. Although in this case I support Pakistan more in my heart than Australia, but still only for the purpose of gaining money, I will be more important in betting on Australia than Pakistan.
However, if one participates in gambling only for entertainment, it is different, but he does not want the team he supports to lose. But if the favorite team is Celta Vigo and if the opponent is Real Madrid, then you have to bet knowing the sure defeat.

He should support and cheer for his team, despite the scenario looking favourable or not, but not bet on it if it's obvious the club is going to lose the match. That is pointless and display fanaticism...

No, I would never act like this guy. If I'm going to place a bet it's because I'm trying to predict the correct outcome of the match, therefore I have to analyze it without letting my personal passions and emotions speak louder than logics and reason. Probably what I would do is to never bet against the team I'm a fan, so in every matches I spotted my team as the weakest one, I would just not take part in bets for that game in particular.

Anyway, I don't have to blindly lose money in bets in order to prove or show everyone around how much I love that club in specific. Instead of losing money like that, your friend could support his team by purchasing official items from the club or even participating on events promoted by them. That would be much more worthful in my opinion, especially because the more money the club has, higher quality players they are going to be able to hire.

I always say that it is necessary to separate feelings when a person makes sports bets, in sports betting you should not place bets based on feelings. If a person is making sports bets based on feelings then that person will not get anything right, then they will start chasing losses, they will start taking out loans to continue playing and they will think about winning to recover all the losses and they will not be able to do that. Betting on a team means that that person took a lot of time to analyze both teams and after much analysis came to the conclusion that team x is better than team x, which is why he bet on team x. This has nothing to do with feelings

If the person loves or is a fan of team z, there's no problem. because even betting on team x to win, this person who is a fan of team z may still be rooting for team z at the time of the game, but only because of the feeling. because rationally, after a lot of analysis carried out by him, team x will have a greater chance of beating team z and with this victory he will make a profit. and profiting in this fair and honest way is no problem. so much so that whenever the games end, players from both teams greet each other to show that what happened on the field was a game in which there would be a winner and a loser, there is no hate or fighting, after the game everyone should be friends. and the same reasoning

I have made bets like this with my country, I have also done it in the World Cups with the Teams that I like, and I do not do it to lose money, it is more Exciting when you win a bet because you follow your taste and your instinct, that is something It should not be taken as a good example, I know that, but I have made those types of exceptions when they are soccer games where almost all people seek to have entertainment and fun Watching it , there is nothing better than doing it while enjoying yourself in a cafe And healthily, sports bettors do things and research to reach their conclusions, they consider many aspects that are more about the Sport , I don't know, so since I make few bets , I take advantage of them.

Those who Dedicate themselves to this can have a life where it is easier to do things this way for them, much better, but I have always sought to place bets in that sense respecting what I like, even if I know that I am going to lose, for that Reason I don't bet much.

There's one rule that I always follow, come what may. Never bet on my favourite team, irrespective of how irresistible the odds might look. I can never be truly objective on my favourite team. Will always have some bias or the other, hence, its better to just let it go instead of betting and potentially landing in the world of hurt.

We must consider that there's a pure bettor, a pure fan, and both at any sport.

As to my preference, as a bettor and as a fan, I can behave like that guy in your story but still, it depends on some situations.

Of course, I will stake on my favorite team, but if the odds are not that interesting, I'd rather skip that betting or find ways to take advantage of betting on my favorite team that will also give me a good profit in return - like betting against a person or something along those lines.

For the love and support --why not?
For the sake of making money, bettor will never choose to let their love control but rather choose the purpose of winning. That is why we can't expect their fans to be loyal and will stay with them until the end because some of them will go away. Well, we can't force them to be loyal, it was their money and they are free to choose where to bet. We might say they support the team but when it comes to gambling, it's too hard to expect such a thing.
In fact, some bettors blame the team they supported for their losses, how much more if they have insights that they will lose the game.

you made it explicit that you're having fun by Staking on games and wagering your funds right? If that's the case, you can possibly bet on any team you'd wish to...Some people can go as far as doing that just as you said... I know of someone that'll be so furious and refuse his meals Should his team lose any match at all.

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That's a big waste of resources.. why? Staking on them won't make them win against the other team, if they were bound to lose, that' remains their fate. I don't think I understand properly how massive one's passion for his team could be anyway.

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As a long-time of that said team, yes I will put my trust on them regardless if they are up against a much better team.

About the profits, I will see to it that I will find a better betting option for me so that while I support my team, I'm also having a chance to get profits by betting with them. Sometimes, I want my favorite team as an underdog so that I will have the chance to take a high and goods since after all, there's no way I will bet on the opposing team.

It will be very stupid of me to know that my team is going to lose in a particular match, and yet I insist and place a bet for them to win. This is just like willingly wasting money on something that is not worth it.
 
If the love I have for my team cannot allow me to place a bet against them, the best thing the person should do is to avoid such a bet entirely and move over to the next game. I don't take some kind of blind decision. Just because I love the team and support them does not mean I will place a bet for them to win, even when I'm sure of what the outcome of the game will be.

Will the money I am staking on my favourite team go to my favourite team's account? no. Obviously i will be losing to the casinos, what then is the essence of this love and support for the team i love? There are many other ways I can show support to my favourite team and staking money on them even when I know that they are obviously losing isn't one of them. The essence of gambling is to give accurate predictions on a particular game. If I decide to let my emotions influence my decisions while  gambling,  then that's not gambling but something entirely different. I will not deliberately enrich the casinos at my own expense and call is 'support ' or 'love' for my favourite team. Whenever I am gambling, I try as much as possible to give accurate predictions, therefore I will not let my emotions ruin my effort.

I can't do such a thing I can only bet a club I know will deliver to take the goodiegabs. Gambling may be for fun but but not when it comes loosing money to your club in the name of fan.  I can never do that. I will still maintain my name as a fan but not to the extent of loosing money to my club when I know They might disappoint me.

I am also on this one, because at the end of the day, the team won't care for your loses or your money spent on them. The situation here is, yes, I do love my team but when it comes to betting, I will bet on the team that I think will be the winner. The main aim of betting is to win, right? So it is ridiculous if you will bet on an obvious losing team. But of course, it doesn't stop you from cheering or supporting your favourite team.


This quote, I believe, should be taken into consideration by bettors. But in any case, it is up to them how they manage their funds. Do take note that your favourite teams don't care about your money at all. For sure, they don't even know you exist as a fan. So better take care of yourselves.

Is this question even arguable? This is just like knowing fully well that if you throw your phone into a deep sea with your eyes closed, you don't know the direction you send it. The possibility of getting that device back is very slim, but yet you went ahead and did that anyway. 
 
Truth be told, there is no gambler who, in his right sense, be you a die-hard fan or whatever you might classify that love to be, will bet for their team to win in a game in which everyone is fully sure that the team will lose.
 
It's just equal to making a free donation to the casino because, at the end of the day, they will get richer and you will be the one to lose, and with or without your beg to support your fans club, they will still be or get to wherever they want to be.

I know plenty of sports fans that always bet on their team. I think it’s pretty normal behavior. Sure, you might not win very often, but when you do win and the joy of your team winning is combined with the excitement of beating the odds and making a bag, it’s all suddenly worth it. I actually love this type of gambler.

I don't think I would cause I already have a principal not to stake on my favourite club cause it often affects my judgement and I have lost so many times cause of such.

Whe  it comes yo betting I do keep emotions aside, so if its so obvious that they woudl lose I won't pick them, but that doesn't mean I wont support them still or maybe deny them cause they lost.

Fanning a club goes far deeper than betting on them, so people can get into fight just for the sake of their clubs, so yes most people would not because they do t know the obvious truth, but just to put hope that they might win and surely would end up with a heart break.

Yes, why not?

It's pure support for the team that you truly like even if it means losing you money. That money won't even have limitations or minimum amounts, as long as you're okay to do that and you understand any result is possible then that doesn't mean anything to be honest.

But just you're showing what kind of a fan you are. That's not chasing money and losses but if you truly want to do something for the support of your beloved team, even in the slightest move of betting, you'd do that.

Being a fan is one thing and gambling for fun is another thing.  I will never let my being a fan blind  my judgement when it comes to sportbetting.  The reason for sports betting is not to have be a loyal person but rather to have fun betting on what we think would be the outcome of the game or getting profit out of our knowledge on how the team will perform.

I think I am sane enough to know that my favorite team won't even know whether I am sacrificing my money for them or reward me for being loyal to them.  I doubt they can even gift me a free lunch during their match day. So for me,  I am not ready to sacrifice my chance of getting profit in the name of being loyal to my favorite team.

That sounds incredible and at this cost, you are determined to catch up with the funs and not about chasing profits otherwise you would not make such bet. That does not really require analysis to make the right predictions in order to secure your winning.
But this is just something obvious that you already know what the outcome of the game would be and yet you sticked to bet on it. Such is indeed fun and a die hard fan of your team.

In this case, there is absolutely no way you would regret your looses if only gambling is being a game of fun like this. And it would as well encourage staking with what is affordable to loose because you can not ignore to stake valuable fund at at a 100% sure of going to loose it.
This is just going to be like... Yeah, I am doing a giveaway to the gamble this time. Have funs 👍✌️

Yeah! You speaks as a gambler who is after multiplication or your stakes. I have no problem with that as much gambling aim is of individuals.
So then, you must always be sentimental with your team if they have always played cutting off your bets which you cares no fun about in the game but to win and addy to your pocket.

Definitely in a scenero like this @author=criptoevangelista you will always be against your team because you should always be at the edges that could give you winnings according to your Predictions so as you can just make more cash and doesn't care who the hell teams are.

Here you would never be a team lover maybe you could consider only that team (s) that plays and gives you winnings. Lol.
You: No profits and no funs. 😂

Sometimes, I still do bet on Ferrari to have a podium for example, doesn't mean that they are not going to get it, they may actually have a car at the podium but it is also not guaranteed, so I can say that I am not betting on something I know it will fail, but I am betting on something with low odds at times.

Secondly, I do bet on my own team to win as well, and usually they don't these days, not that they lose all the time, but they are midtable so that means they win sometimes but not that commonly and the odds are not even that good. All in all I could say that it does happen, not that often but it does happen and it is not really something to worry about, we see these type of things, as long as you do not bet big, it's fine.

To be sincere I can't do no such thing with my money all in the name of the love of my football club. I can always give that moral support even when it's obvious they are going to lose the game but it won't go beyond moral to financial in my gambling for or against them.

Loving my favourite team so much would either mean I don't bet against them at all, instead of me betting in their favour in game's I know they are going to lose. The whole idea is that it's going to be a wasteful of funds and no one that has value for money will be comfortable wasting it knowingly.

Yes, we can support them even if we know that their chances are slim against a very good team. But to bet our money, just for the sake of it, and because it is our favorite ball club, is completely wrong for a avid fan of the sports.


Or maybe yet, just don't bet on the game. Just watch it and see how our team will do against their opponents. If they lose, then we go home and suckered it like a man and no regrets or anything. And just look for the next match that we might bet on them.

It is one thing being a passionate fan and a supporter of your team and betting on the Sport. You cannot be too emotionally involved with the Sport, when you are betting on it, because it will cause you to lose bets.

You should rather use your knowledge about the Sport to your advantage and win more bets.

Enjoy the Sport, but bet with your knowledge and your brain power, not your heart.

I read some preceding comments from other members and I just smiled because I can perceive that some of them are just trying to be economical with the truth of the matter when they argue that they will at all times bet in favour of their team even when the team has no chance of winning the game, and this is very misleading to even think about it.

 Imagine me feeling sad for losing my money and also bearing a loss from my favourite loving team. Oh man, it's best I avoid the avoidable by just watching the game and exchanging the banters from opponent fans as a show of love for my team than including money to it.

Every human being has an emotional attachment. Of course an individual can be a strong supporter of a particular team. One who loves the team immensely but can't control his emotions when it comes to betting is his own failure. I support my favourite team but I know that even if my team is strong, it is inevitable that they will lose some matches. So I definitely don't increase my bet unless there will have no potential win. I'm not willing to raise my bet on that perspective. Loving the team doesn't mean losing my betting money for it. Betting is a part of entertainment and has nothing to do with love.

You aren't showing support to your team by placing a bet on a random bookie. Showing support means buying merch and going to the stadium  every time your favorite team has a match. Wasting money on a sports betting platform doesn't benefit your favorite team at all(unless the sports betting platform is a sponsor of that team and a part of your bets go for the sponsorship payment). I agree that being a football fan is more of an emotional thing, but I'm just too rational and wouldn't waste money on a losing bet.
By the way, I think that you don't understand the meaning of the word "loose". Please change "loose" and "loosing" with "lose" and "losing". ;D

If someone loves their team or athlete, of course, things that sometimes don't make sense can be done instead of just betting on the team or athlete they like even though the chance of winning is small, even very small, and people who don't feel what that person feels will think they are stupid, but that's what happens when you like something, even when your favorite club or athlete only gets very small odds, maybe below @ 1.10, you will still choose it even though the risk of losing is much greater than the profit you will get, but choosing another team or athlete feels like betraying, and other things that fans can do that seem stupid and that becomes normal for them.

This is something I wouldn't do. My support for a team is very evident, but I will not let it get the best of me when it comes to rationality and financial decisions. I know hardcore team supporters who can blow thousands on their team even though they know that they will just be beat. They believe so much in make-believe scenarios that their team will somehow get together and achieve the win even though stats and analyses show that the odds are heavily stacked against said team. That support is commendable, but I would never do that.

I will, however, buy merchandise from my team if there is any, but you can't expect me to put in some money for bets if they're against a team that will defeat them.

Another way of showing a support is to buy their merchandise if they are selling something. Indeed this is better because we can still see the merch for a quite a long time but in gambling, we can lose the money easily, once the team that we bet on loses as well.

The only moment that our bets might change their game from bad to good is when they are also aware that many people are rooting at their backs. Other than placing a bet, we can also go to the stadium and cheer for them, and just like buying a merchandise, this one is also worth it because we can see our idols in real-time. The experience will be unforgettable even if money is already spent.

If they happy by betting their favorite teams, there's nothing wrong with that.

But for me, I will not feel happy with that because I already expect my favorite team will lose, it means I just like giveaway my money for free. I also not a fanatic fan, not like the other people who always stand with their teams regardless what the situation and how bad they did to the others, they will think their teams are correct.

If it's to support, maybe I will support my favorite club without betting if my favorite club has the potential to lose because of what?? betting involves money and it is very risky for me. Providing support doesn't mean you have to bet, we come and watch it live and just give slogans, it's like support for them and it definitely increases the club's self-confidence because we support it directly, even if we know that our favorite club has the potential to lose and still betting on them will make them feel stressed and have to win because they are worried that if their fans lose their bets, many will definitely be disappointed, but if they don't bet with money, even if they are disappointed, the disappointment will disappear instantly, but if the bet is lost, we also experience losses.

Indeed, betting can be used as a means of having fun, but if you know your bet will definitely lose, you will definitely feel disappointed, right? everyone who bets definitely wants to win even if the nominal amount is small and no one who bets wants to lose if something happens, that's really funny ;D

Yeah, if showing support and love for your favorite team is your goal, support them financially or on the pitch with chants, banners, etc. I don't know how betting on your team is equal to supporting them, even if you win the money goes to you. Unless your club made some deals with the casino, but wouldn't that be almost impossible to know? Who knows, it might affect their performance too if the players or the coach also have some hidden deals to make matches more interesting. Even on a club with casino as their sponsor, I doubt betting on that specific platform on your club's performance will improve your club's financial situation more than when you buy merch from the official store.

I think the situation mentioned by OP is an exaggeration to show that the fans love their club. I doubt any real fan will use that argument to show their love for the club though. Just like how some fans say they will take a bullet for a manager or something along those lines.

I would be like that too, I don't want to risk my money just because it is my favorite team. If I know that the match will not go smoothly, then instead I will bet on the opposing team even though people say that I am not loyal or support my favorite team. Because this is not about morality or loyalty, but it is money, and I don't want to lose money just because I support a team that will lose. It is much better for me to provide direct support to my team, rather than having to bet on them and then lose.

good for you, but I think it is a very bad mindset to have. if you know that the team that you love are gonna lose you don't have to bet on them, not betting on the team you love doesn't mean that you don't support them, it just means that you acknowledge the fact that they have a big chance of losing the match. you do not have to lose your money just because you want to support the team that you like, this is one of those things that you need to be logical.

Well that's the point, if you already know that the team you are favoring will lose then why should you bet? After all money is something that is always needed by everyone and if you still choose to bet then that means you don't have good financial management in life, on the other hand I understand that however everyone has their own choices and maybe they will say that what they are betting is their own money, I understand that but maybe we are just suggesting that gambling is nothing more than entertainment, therefore if you already know the high probability that your favorite team will lose at the end of the match then it is clearly better to save your money not to bet and just watch the game.

Also yes I agree with you here that even though we don't bet but that doesn't mean we don't support our favorite team, which means not everything should always involve money, and vice versa if indeed the situation is reversed in the sense that you think and know a little information that your favorite team has a greater chance of winning the match then obviously no problem if you want to bet your money, the point is wise management and mindset must be applied.

It doesn't make a sense to still place a bet on your club when you know that the other club will defeat yours, what type of stupid love for your club is that? It makes no single sense.

If you feel like it's a betray to your club then don't place bet at all, consider such a match as a pass, look for another match to place a bet on, it's normal to feel like you are a betrayer placing bet that another team will beat yours, just don't bet then, just enjoy the match.

I have never been in such situation before because I don't feel like I am betraying my club for placing bet that other team will win them, it's a game after all, enjoying the game is a different thing from placing a bet on the game, what do you want? That's left for you to find out.

IMO this is common in football and basketball. Despite that there's a huge handicap for the teams that we like, we still bet it.

And that is because we don't just love them but also the odds that are given to those matches are favorable to us if ever we win together with the team that we're supporting.

This is what actually gambling is, you bet with your team and as a fan, they have you on their back and it doesn't matter what might be the result and ending of it as long as you've shown how you love them.

Then, it's a plus if you've won with some good odds from it.

Correct, Supporting is different to gambling for your tea, because you will not gonna give an impact to support your team. You can use your data about your team to bet with them or against them since you knew them very well.

It’s cery absurd to waste money for a bet that you dedicate to support them because you can just use the money to purchase team merchandise rather than giving it to the casino. The only time I bet on my favorite team despite being underdog is when I pick am AH pick with them when the enemy team is not that strong for them to have a huge gap on score.

This is not love for your team, it's simply foolishness. Gambling is actually a game of fun but there's no any form of fun in deliberately losing your money even when you know your favorite team will lose. You can not just be wasting money deliberately and claim it love for your team. You can support your favorite team by sticking with them even during struggling time i.e losing streak, buying their jersey, buying ticket to watch their games and some other ways possible to support them. For the love I have for my team, I don't always gamble on their games unless the ones I am so confident they will win and if they eventually lose, I do feel the pain.

I understand with your point, you're correct supporting a team is when you give an impact to the team. If you gamble, either you lose or win, there's no impact to the team. If you lose, you're actually contributing to the casino, if you win, it's a personal reward.

One of the example is Socios who own Barcelona, they're supporting the team in financial, effort and time.

With all Said and dones towards those who says they would do no such thing in the sense that gambling should be some kind of analytical strategies so you could understand the teams capacities before placing your bets but If ignored and goes ahead staking in support that an obvious loosing team would win then it is either not gambling nor Worth staking on what we knows we are going to loose our stakes on.

I wanted to ask us this, Do you believe in motivation? And do you believe hailing is cheering one up where a player can regain some lost energy and can also revive their confidence?
This is just what such positive outcomes could bring to the potential loosing team. That could serve as the game changer where the games turns around if the case maybe that the team knew they were going to be a disappointment to their fans whom had even betted on their behalf to win even when knowing that they were going to loose the match.

Remember,this is not a fixed match, only that the teams capacities is never to be compared for the potential loosing team to win the other team with almost 100% confidence to win the match.

What is your opinion on this

I think it's bullshit and personally I would never do such a thing in my life. Your individual bet doesn't influence the performance of your team, it doesn't make it better or worse. If anything it's the other way around, if your team was better, you'd bet on it winning more often. In other words, it is the performance of your team that influences your bets, not the other way around.

Yes, thinking that your bet will have any impact in the result is a clear case of magical thinking.

But, on the other hand, it is not the only reason to bet for the loser. I rarely bet on sports, but when I do I often bet for my preferred team, even if chances of winning are low. This way, if they lose I'll have won the bet and, if they win, I will be happy so the bet doesn't matter so much. Some will say that this way I'll never have it all, but also the opposite, so it can make sense to bet for the team least likely to win if you don't care so much about the result and simply bet for fun (I'm curious about who here really gambles that way).

Many a time gamblers use the term gambling is a fun activity . This doesn't mean that they want  a loss as it is normal to human nature to frown towards losing and cheer towards winning. Of course many gamblers usually stake in favor of their team hoping them to win however they are just believing that they would eventually win plus since the love the team they see it worthy to put up the stake. Now the case you made mention of is one of which you are already sure They would lose and still stake. The truth is almost no one would do such a thing even if the take gambling for fun, they will always prefer a win over a loss especially if the loss is too true or the odds of it happening is very high they may just ignore the stake instead.

It is not a foolishness as long as you take it as a fun bet (not to make money). When you know that your favorite team has so low chance to win means that the odds is big so placing a small bet will be fun as it may give something nice if your favorite team win the match unexpectedly. It will be a foolishness if you do it all the time and with decent amount of every bet merely because you are a fan of the team.

Definitely it is normal to have a team you like soo much because of maybe personal reasons or because of their performance. This however does not mean you should stake in support of them when you know that they are going to lose . It is more like chasing a lost cause which is irrational if you ask me.
Yes we often comment that gambling is a fun based game but still winning is an added benefit and of course no one finds fun in losing. As a responsible gambler even if you have a team you love so much it doesn't stand as an excuse for you to staking in a lost cause its more  like just tossing your money into a ditch and I bet a gambling hater will classify such a person as an addict.

Supporting the team we like wholeheartedly and with great dedication is quite a good thing. And perhaps betting on a match against our own team, perhaps that is not a wise action, and is considered unethical. As fans, we should be able to respect religious integrity and fair play. Although it does not rule out the possibility that there are some individuals who decide to bet against their own team, because they see that the other team's chances of winning are higher than their favorite team. This can happen because they like the betting more, rather than the match and the team.

And if we really have that much love for our favorite club, the best thing for us to do is support them with high enthusiasm and with full confidence that they will give their best in every match.

Exactly! It's not foolishness because that's the way you show your support to your team, there are many people who do the same thing, they just don't want to admit it because this is how others immediately think and comment, but that's how it really is when you're loyal to your team, no matter what happens, you will support them and not leave them, and besides, you will just bet on them but it is not said that you will bet a large amount, it's like what, a small token as support.

Normally, it is good to defend one's team even if they win or lose because that is what makes you a fan but staking money despite knowing the opponent are far better than the team you are supporting is what I see as abnormal, like what is the need of you betting in favour of your team when they face a more stronger opponent. We all know that football is a game of passion and entertainment be it that your team win or losses yet we still keep supporting them but not when money is involved.

Yes simply put it is like supporting over a careless decision, meaning that they already know that their favorite team is much weaker than the opposing team but they even put money to bet, on the other hand I think betting is a bet and love is another thing, so it is a ridiculous decision if you already know that most likely your pride team will lose but you still decide to bet for love, and in my opinion it is a decision that is far from wise.

Yes it is true as you said that true fans will continue to support their team to win or if it is because it is a common thing that often happens in every match, but the name of support does not always involve money, or the point is that if you see that most likely your team will lose then obviously it is better not to bet first and better use the money for other more important things, because obviously it is a silly decision if you spend money to lose.

Is obvious that  a lot of people do just to defend their favorite team,but I think they are making a very big mistake in doing that when it has to do with money, their are other ways to defend your favorite team,I know football is a game of passion,and also for intertainment and fun.
To Risky your money in betting your favorite team when they are playing with bigger teams,and is obvious that the bigger team is opportune to win your favorite team isn't going to make you the biggest fan instead you're wasting your money.however I'm passionate into football activities but I don't take such risk.

Bet on a losing team because you "love" them is like tossing money into a furnace and expecting gold - it wont happen. I understand loyalty; seeing someone stick to their guns in whatever weather makes me happy. But lets think, folks. Bet your hard-earned money on a losing cause is different from cheering from the sidelines in your team's colors. Use your resources wisely. Love your team? Great. Scream until hoarse to support them. But let's not confuse devotion with financial craziness when betting. Save the money for something that will pay off.

This all comes back to each individual. Where there are some people who bet for the reason of adding sensation and pleasure when watching the matches they are taking part in, especially matches of their favorite club. in other words, they enjoy the match more than the bets they place. But there are also those who bet just to make a profit, so they always consider every opportunity in the bets they place, even if they have to bet against their papvotrit team. Because when the prediction results show that the opposing team is stronger than our favorite team. So it would be stupid if we bet on a weaker team. And people who bet like this, they tend to like the bet more than the game. But as a fan, of course this is unethical behavior, and can violate the code of ethics as a fan. Where as fans we should be able to respect the integrity of pair play. As fans of a certain team, we must have confidence that our favorite team will always try to give their best so as not to disappoint their fans.

Here I found someone who really understood the mindset of a team fan in @Strongkored. Sometimes when you're not after chasing the profits, then you basically derives funs out of it and could even take that mile of staking in support of your team to win even at a little chances to win and in a big obvious chances to loose the game.

Failure to win the game is not going to be so emotional like... You loosed a game that you never expected loosing with the regrets that you even betted with a regrettable amount of stakes.
It was going to be more like a social gambling in such a way that you would still stand by your team defending them after loosing that yeah, your team tried to hold on to a point. Meanwhile... You would be so diplomatic with vital accountabilities of giving your loosed team credit for a well played game. You can even be pointing out some advantages the other team had which was a wall that enabled them to beat your team probably some excuses that your team was cheated.
Other team fans may even find some senses to your opinion and could consider that yeah... Truly your team had a kudos playing even though as they loosed the match.

It is just going to be some sorts of game based within you and the other team fans and basically you do not care about the money loosed but most interested on the arguements.
Such discussable games in such scenero is usually comes from the football games.

Yes, I also don't understand the mindset of people like that where it is clear that the best and wisest decision is not to bet at all because after all that is a way of losing money intentionally while on the other hand it is a fact that everyone needs money and we should I don't like losing. On the other hand, I do not advise anyone to bet with the aim of making a profit because that is a mindset that is not recommended in gambling, but if you already know about the most likely outcome that will occur at the end of the session then it is clear that we should make decisions that are in line with the possibilities. the result at the end of the session, such as when, for example, the most likely result at the end of the session is that your favorite team will win, then clearly it is a profitable situation for you to support your favorite team while looking for profits, it's like diving while drinking water, but if it's the other way around then yes of course Of course the wise decision is to just support and not to put any money at all and it is better to save it and use it for other useful things.

If we already love a team then we don't care about the odds given by the bookie and even though realistically the chance of losing is much greater then it won't affect us, because in my opinion it is no longer the mind or brain that speaks, but the heart that speaks.
I have a story about this, this is the experience of a friend of mine who happens to be a supporter of one of the local teams in my country. He will do anything to support his favorite team, until one day his favorite team faces the team at the top of the standings. He asked me to help him find an opponent to bet on at that time, I was a little confused because logically his team would definitely lose, but he insisted on still looking for an opponent to bet on (he made individual bets, not from a gambling site).
From that experience, I believe that a fanatical fan doesn't care about the status of the opponent he or she will face, because usually they will always believe that their favorite team will win and that's why at the beginning I said they had used their heart.

I think that's such a profound way of putting it. When people bet on sports, they often lose sight of what they are truly risking and become engrossed in the excitement of the event. It's one thing to be passionate about your team, but it's quite another to risk your hard-earned money on an uncertain conclusion. It's like you said, there's no point in confusing devotion with a financial strategy that's bound to fail. It's important to maintain perspective and make judgments based on logic, not emotion.

Yes, of course I can even with great ease if there are chances to turn the game around. I mean that there will be a minimum of 5% on the event; if it is lower, then I consider this to be too low an indicator and of course I would not bet on this. Because adequacy must remain first and foremost, which borders on love for the team. Although many, even in very slim probability, are ready to make such bets, in my opinion this will not lead to anything, especially if it is repeated often. I also want to add that there should be love for the team, but it should not be crazy, although I am tolerant of such players, it is their choice in the end.

But if we think rationally, sometimes such things waste our time and money because in the end we already know the chances are high that the club we love will lose a match especially when looking at previous poor performances (for example) but we are too forced just because of the thrill and love without thinking about others, this has a worse impact on our finances because we do not do rational thinking and only maintain ego.
This condition is not justified for gambling, it's just that everyone has their own views on it and because of our love for a club sometimes it makes us blind to the conditions we support considering the ambition and ego we have too big to admit it.

It is not wrong if we have more finances and are ready to spend money on an unnecessary condition but on the other hand, we also cannot always force things like this because after all, betting is based on a condition so that we benefit not to let the money we have go to waste.

lol it's serious, man if you want to support a team you buy their t-shirts, go to the stadium, go on a trip where they want them to play, create a fans brave club, make positive content for the team (Social networks), but burn money on a bet on your team That's not supporting the team, that's supporting the casino.

There is a different context, when your team has real possibilities, I made a thread in that sense.
Sports Betting vs Real "Sports Feelings" (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5278818.0)

My buddy has a different view from you on this. He calls it the "happiness hedge." Basically, he bets against the team he's rooting for (at small amounts). If they lose, he's happy because he wins some money. If they win, he's happy because his team won. Feels like some gambler's logic to me lol but for him it works. I guess the main principle he follows is that he never puts in too much money to the point where he'd be sad if he lost.

When comes to betting on matches, I believe I would still rather to go for a pragmatic way and only bet on the team which I am more inclined to believe is going to win the match.
If there is a match where my favorite team or national team would be participating, I would rather not to bet, as an alternative to bet against them, but to me as a better it would be pretty illogical to bet in favor of a team which I would not believe to be capable of winning the match.
Sport bets are all about fun and also money, after all, and losing money on purpose because betting on a team which is bad would certainly spoil my fun. Though, because of the bad reputation of the team and his low chances of winning, scoring a win with them would likely mean pretty good multipliers.

In short, it is healthier not to bet unless you are sure you could win and you won't later regret your choice.

The truth is that when it comes to gambling the only thing in our mind is the possibility of wining, so I see no reason why a gambler will see an opportunity to win a game and choose not to bet because of the reason that he will be betting against his club, although I wouldn't doubt if there are people like that because there people who love a particular club that no matter anything they will never bet against them, so actually for me if I see a good opportunity, no matter how the club is to me I will always bet on the wining side because the only reason of gambling is to win bet, so if a gambler sees an opportunity to win and decided not to bet because of the club, perhaps maybe he is not ready to gamble.

It can't be avoided by those people who have been following their favorite team since then, even before the start of their gambling journey. I have also been in the same situation many times where regardless of the odds, I need to bet on my favorite team even if the chances of losing are high.

The good thing about that is, if my favorite team is the underdog expect that the odds for the Moneyline to them is high.

If they were able to upset the opposing team, expect a juicy winning in return.

This here just draws the line between pro gamblers and amateur gamblers... When you are a pro gambler and know that your team doesn't have what it takes to win, you bet against them...but for those that want to show love for the team and not agree that they don't have the firepower defines who an amateur gambler is here!!

When it comes to a fan's clash, everyone is suppose to rally behind their team regardless of how big or small the club is but when talking about gambling,you can't walk the talk...let's go in for the money 💸💰. But then again, gambling being gambling, you can never be so sure that the favourite will always win which is why you never stake all your balance as risk management is king!

Gamblers can be nasty in some behaviors  and i cant be in any means thrown into surprise when i heard that some can go to such extent, though things like this happens more frequently on those that make bets and they stake money into it and not that someone will deliberately gamble knowing that he will lose but fir the love he had on the team, to me, i will consider such as a waste of money, the team can not be responsible to any of your loyalty or disloyalty on them because your take on them affect nothing about whom they stand to be or what to achieve.

I know some friends that plays opposite of popular teams in some selected matches. Withe this they are able to combine two to four matches and they will realized big odds that they will bet small amount to target massive winning. They rarely win but when they win, t is usually massive. Another thing about such still is it usually involves small amount of bets to for huge wins. I have tried playing this pattern sometimes but I have not been lucky to win it so I don't keep at it on a regular basis, just once in a while I try it and pray for luck

Occasional sport bettor may choose to do it even I did same and it's purely because I love that team but the amount I bet is very minimal and almost close to couple of dollars only and It's not gonna affect me if I lose which is understandable but the other way of going big on an obvious losing team is jumping from the cliff and land on safe place.

I really agree with you, if we bet on a team that is very sure that it cannot win the bet and place a bet because of love for that team, of course this is a waste of money in the bets we play and it would be better for us to just watch the match without placing a bet. a bet that we really can't win and what we do is of course a very stupid thing because betting has nothing to do with the team we love and if we do have a favorite team of course we always support them in various ways but if we bet there is no relationship with our love for the team.

Your friend's story shows how sports become belief fights. Fans like him reflect the ethos of standing by your choices no matter what. This is a double-edged weapon, don't kid yourself. Bets on passion can be as dangerous as walking a tightrope over a chasm

The bookie stakes? They're probabilities, not fate. However, the heart's roar sometimes overshadows them, demonstrating human resilience and perseverance. A wonderful human quirk, this isn't folly. Even against overwhelming evidence, we're wired to follow our passions. Having this knowledge can empower you. This implies we may commit profoundly and believe strongly in the face of adversity

However, regulating this feature is wise. Support your team, wear your heart on your sleeve, but maintain perspective. The smart distinguishes themselves from the sentimental by balancing heart and head. Making informed decisions while enjoying the raw, pure emotion that makes sports and life exhilarating. May we gracefully walk this tightrope? Absolutely. It demands a potent mix of loyalty and smart thinking, as intriguing as the games we love to gamble on

Some people are die hard fans of their club, no matter how poor the club is performing, they will keep on supporting the club, even when they notice their club is performing so poorly, they will always look for excuses to justify their poor performance, actually I also do this often, no matter how my club performs poorly, I will always support them in public, but deep down, I do always feel bad, but nobody will know.

Whenever my club is not in form, I do end up gambling on them in some matches, even if I know they are going to lose, I just derive joy by doing that, but I do use just little amount of money to place bets on matches like that, even when I lose, I won’t even feel it.

Some gamblers view betting on their favorite team as an extension of their fandom.  It's a way to add another layer of excitement to the game, a chance to "put their money where their mouth is."  Imagine a die-hard fan, decked out in team colors, celebrating not just a win, but also a successful wager.  For them, it's about solidarity, a financial expression of their unwavering loyalty.

There's a counterpoint: the emotionless analyst.  They see sports betting as a business transaction, devoid of sentiment.  They detach themselves from any emotional ties to a team, focusing solely on statistics and betting odds.  Imagine a poker player, analyzing every detail, making calculated decisions based on cold, hard logic. Both approaches have merit.  The "fan" approach injects passion into the experience, but can lead to biased decisions.  The "analyst" approach prioritizes logic, but might lack the visceral thrill of victory.

Blind passion shouldn't cloud judgment when it comes to sports betting.  Unlike your friend who lets emotions dictate his bets, you understand the importance of analyzing matchups objectively.  Imagine a chess player, meticulously evaluating the strengths and weaknesses of each piece before making a move.

Refusing to bet against your favorite team is a sound strategy.  Emotional attachment can cloud your ability to assess their true chances of winning.  It's like wearing rose-colored glasses – you see your team as invincible, even when they're not.

Supporting your team goes beyond winning wagers.  You highlight the importance of official merchandise and attending club events.  These actions directly contribute to the club's financial well-being, allowing them to attract better players and enhance the overall experience for fans.  Imagine a stadium filled with passionate supporters, their cheers a tangible expression of their love for the game and their team.

What ill make clear for you OP is there is no passion in betting. My younger brother plays 8 ball pool, most times he face some tough opponent and i do bet against him because i feel they would win. Always understand that familiarity, blood and love should not be considered in gambling. If you are to take any hard choice let it be that your taking a very high risk and you are aware of it, sometimes it works for us.

By now the answer should be clear. I wont bet on an odd that would most likely not enter for me. I bet my money on an odd with higher probability.

Op is like you are new to supporting football team. I have seen die hard football fans in my community and even in where I am schooling. And before you choose a football team support, you have to believe the team with all your mind and support them. And that is what the team also needs. The team needs your support that will give them morals to play and win matches.
There is a girl I know that supporting Arsenal and if Arsenal lose games she still support them. So what that fan is saying is the truth. Even their team lose they still support them. Example, upon all the loses Chelsea has been incurred they still have enough fans and whenever Chelsea wins a game they would be very happy and jubilating. But if they know that their team lose frequently then when the team play games they would not bet with big amount but small amount. But if others are playing they would bet with big amount. But that one too is depends on the team that is playing with them. If fans know that the opposition team is not strong enough to play with their team then they'll bet big amount.

For the hell of it, yeah.

Thing is, and this may not fall that much in topic since we're talking about football teams here, I'm an avid Valorant ESports enjoyer and viewer, and one of the biggest teams that I root for consistently is always Sentinels. They won the first ever official Valorant tournament back in 2021, but since then they have fallen from grace and have lost multiple games and tournaments due to bad playstyle, irrelevant tactics and a general sense of losing the competitive drive they had when they first played in the LAN servers(and only until recently did they start to show that they are one of the best teams on the planet for this game). Despite this I have remained an avid fan of them, and have made pub bets with friends in favor of Sentinels even though I know they have little to no chance of ever winning again.

The thing is that it doesn't even do anything to amp and increase the morale of the team whatsoever, I just do it because I love the whole roster and I want to support them whichever way I can even if it doesn't make sense. As of now, they have been making waves and have been getting their comeback storyline recently. Hoping they show more prowess the rest of the tournament.

Football is really a game of passion and we see different strange behaviors and actions being displayed by supporters in weird ways of showing support.
But I haven’t yet met anyone that would be willing to part away with money to place bets that is most likely to come out not in his favor. When a scenario where parting of money is involved, we tend to think more clearly unless of course we’re thinking out of a place of greed.
We could buy loads of merch in show of support but placing bets when the outcome is obviously isn’t in your favor in a show of support is quite unheard of.

If you focus on mere profits, you will definitely bet on a team that has higher probability to win, to the extent of even leaving your own team. However, other people might do the opposite and instead stick to their favorite team even if it’s obvious that they’ll lose eventually, just to show support or love to the team. With this, they are actually beating their purpose why they are gambling. Gambling is not a fan game, and those who have a lot of fans or supporters will win, but basically it’s based on luck and skills on the team itself to win over the opponents.

Well first we say to lose and not to loose, you must be confusing with to choose maybe lol. But you wouldn't lose money just because I like a player or a team, it's a non sense for me. If I want to spend money for them, I would prefer by goodies about the player or the team. Or if I know his address, I would certainly prefer to send him a gift with the money, he would be more pleased.

Totally depends on what you are really that trying to do or having in mind on which not all would really be coming after for the profits on which there are ones who do really shows up some support into the
team that they do like. Somewhat it is really that totally exaggerated if we do speak about betting even if its really that too obvious about slim chance on winning up the game.
Well, its our money though and it would really be just that normal that they do all the things that they do have in mind. They wont care on what others will be saying
as long they have done on whats up into their minds. Dont bother yourself on making those kind of arguments because they would really be just simply telling you that its their full
rights since its their money to bet on.

Placing bets on matches, even when the outcome may not be in their favor, is more common than you might think. Betting on football matches is not only about predicting the outcome. For many football enthusiasts, it adds an extra excitement and engagement to the game. Even if the odds are against them, some people are willing to take the risk for the thrill of the experience. This is a craziness of fandom.

It's safe to say that betting on football matches is not always driven by greed. Maybe it might sound crazy to hear that some fans may place bets as a form of loyalty or solidarity with their team, regardless of the potential outcome. It's a way for them to demonstrate their unwavering support and belief in their team's capabilities. The rise of online betting platforms and easy access to betting markets has made it more convenient for fans to place bets. That contribute further to its popularity among football supporters. Buying merchandise is undoubtedly a common way to show support for a team, but betting on matches can be seen as another form of expression for passionate fans. It may seem unconventional to some, but betting on football matches as a show of support is not unheard of and is driven by a variety of factors beyond mere greed.

I've thought about this again and again. My favorite team isn't a top 5 but I insist to support my local team.
Well, seeing as though how crypto gambling doesn't have any deals with my local league though, I don't hesitate to bet against my team sometimes. If I'm sure they'll lose even though I love my local team, I will bet on what I think makes me money without shame. It's not an issue to bet looking to earn a few bucks. So if I can improve my chances by betting against I team I like I won't think about it twice.

This type of emotional support is often coming from die-hard fans. The casinos bank on these fans to make the wrong bets too. 8)

This is why sports betting is popular and leads to a number of fans losing their money for free on game nights. For being a good sport bettor, one has to keep aside these emotions and be calculative. But is tough for those who love their teams too much.

It often better to just not bet and enjoy the game with some food and drinks.

I myself can equally be confusing as well sometimes on the different between lose and loose. When I saw this your statement It was already funny because I have been making such mistakes too.

But any ways I can not stake or bet for love, rather bet for fun and make some real cash. Why would I even think of playing just for the love of team while the team is making there money wether I play for love or not. I even stand a chance to lose because if they lose the match they will be paid and if they also win they will be paid but if they lose I lose so they have %100 assurance of getting paid per week, so I don't play for love .

You are right though. When your team is doing so well then it could give you the confidence to bet on them to win and it absolutely makes no sense to stake on your team just for the sake of love at where you are going to loose your funds.

But alternatively @Don Pedro Dinero, don't you believe that for a player or team to be aware that their supporter made stakes on them to win a match, that would service the team to buckle up so that the Don't bring disgrace to their teams? Inspirations can actually be driven from different ways as a morale.
This should count be when one you hailing and cheering you at your given up times which you recharge you up to be energymatic again.

Maybe if they are not sure on the words they use they should better check on google the correct word to use and meaning so that they will not get confuse on what they are posting here.

Also we have different  opinion or the way how we look in this kind of situation. But for me it always depends since if the team is obviously losing and they lose their key players or stars due to injury then there's no point for placing a bet since most likely they really have a high chance to lose. But if they just been called as underdog but if their core is intact and their roster is healthy then maybe I will bet on those teams since I still believe that the result would be change and that strong team they know could still possibly lose if those underdog or what they called losing team will perform well.

I did this a couple of times... I was a blind fan back then lol but granted it's not really because they had a bad matchup or anything heck the matches afaik could've gone either way with how strong both teams were most of the time, so in those cases, I simply went for my favorite team.

In cases where they performed underwhelming and were against a pretty well-performing team, I'd mostly still go for them. In this context underperforming in that specific tournament, not in every tournament in general. If that happened, I'd stay away from stake on them until they get their stuff back together. Doesn't matter that I like them, I like them in the first place cause they were good anyway.

Love is stupid after all so bet away, you know that you're going to lose and you're betting for your love of that team means that you're not really going to listen to any kind of logic that would prevent you from doing so. The point of this is to show solidarity and loyalty to the team so there's nothing wrong even if me and others say that it's stupid or illogical to do so. Also, it's worth noting that miracle and comebacks can happen so if you've bet on your favorite team albeit they're losing so badly, and then something miraculous happens and they won then it's an added bonus to you, that you were able to rely on them for bet and that your love for the team paid off.

I am sure that the players will be more pleased or the coach will also be more pleased when supporters do something more tangible to show their support for the team. If a gambler stake on his team with the idea that the team will lose in the game, how can the team know about this kind of support and how can they appreciate it? It is a foolish action to show support in such way.

You know how people say love is blind when you're really into your favorite team? It's so true! I get totally irrational and throw logic out the window when I'm cheering them on.  My heart wants them to win no matter what the odds are.  I know Ive got rose-colored glasses on, but I can't help it - I believe in my squad even when it seems crazy.  Like last week, I put 20 bucks on them to rally from a 10-point deficit with 2 minutes left and  my buddy said I was nuts! But then they pulled off some wild plays and ended up winning the game! Bam! It happened just like I knew it would in my heart.  That feeling when your wild bet pays off thanks to the team you have faith in? It's priceless.

Who cares about logic - this is all about passion and spirit baby!

Football betting isnt simply about money. It shows fans' unwavering faith in their teams. Truly fascinating. Consider: people dont throw money around because they can. They do it to connect, feel the rush, and declare "I'm with them, win or lose."

This has accelerated in the digital age. Today, online platforms make supporting your team from anywhere, anytime easy. Passion, commitment, and thrill-seeking are involved, not greed. Betting, like wearing your team's jersey or screaming in the seats, shows you're part of something bigger. We shouldnt underestimate devotion and supporters' emotional bonds to their teams. Its huge and transforming how we enjoy sports.

This is very true because there are many fans in soccer and when it is their local team and when they are strongest in their sports ideology, then they are very fans, they are even capable of fighting in the same game if their teams lose, so that is the kind of People who bet so they know that their teams will win because they see it as Something of loyalty and that they do not fail in their Principles, in this winery of ideas I think that everyone can make a Difference, if there are people who always seek to make bets and earn money, because I believe that they should not mix their feelings, although to be honest, that costs me a lot.

I am a person who is fascinated by Football , it is actually my first Sport , so when it comes to placing bets I am emphatic with my team, I do have to bet knowing that the team can or has a greater chance of losing I do, I always keep hope, but of course I'm not stupid enough to bet a lot of money, I always do it with little.

What most people do when Betting on their Favorite sport is betting with their heart and Sometimes it doesn't work because they lose money.

The allegiance of fans extends beyond mere fandom; it's deeply rooted in their sense of identity and community pride. Fans place bets on their favorite teams with the expectation of victory. They view it as a demonstration of loyalty and unwavering support. This emotional investment can cloud judgment and lead to biased decision-making, particularly when it comes to predicting outcomes.

There is distinction between betting for emotional fulfillment and betting solely for financial gain. Some may prioritize financial returns over emotional attachment, and others find fulfillment in expressing their support through betting, even if it means accepting the inherent risks involved. Feeling the intersection of emotions and betting can indeed be challenging, because as it requires separating personal biases from objective analysis. It may be difficult to detach from one's emotions entirely, but maintaining a level of rationality and perspective is essential in making informed betting decisions.

As football fan and also a gambler, I know there's a difference between been passionate in supporting your team and also a totally different thing when you talk about are trying to place bets with huge money.
For instance, whenever my local team is playing against a team that's believed by many to better, I simply stake a little amount of money for my local team to win even when i know that it's almost impossible for my local team to win. However, I have also be lucky in few occasions that my local team ended up winning the games.
But whenever I'm about to stake huge amount of money and is expecting myself to win at the end of the day, I totally do not attach my emotions to it again as I only stake on teams I believe will win at the end of of the day and that doesn't make me less of a fan of you ask me.

yeah right, better to stop betting and just enjoy the game with good food and acquiantance, right? kidding. Of course we can't do that because it's more exciting to watch the game and supporting a team with some top up bet amount, so you have something to look forward at the end of the game but we need to be more cautious on the possible outcome of the game and don't expect something from the team that you support, just enjoy in your seat while having a bet.

I literally did this couple of times when I was lot younger, young like my university years. I think this was mainly caused my belief towards my team's strength. As I am fan of my team, I know what our players excel at so it creates distorted reality in my opinion. I think its very counterproductive way of gambling. I know its enjoyable to watch your team winning, and at the same time your coupon making you money - Undeniably. But proper gamblers would never do something like this in my opinion.

Sometimes when a person is merely cold and doesn't feel any love for a particular team things are quite obvious, but sometimes in these cases you have to prioritize reason over the heart, it is something that is quite strong for some I don't deny it, it's very difficult for me to do it, and the truth is I wouldn't be able to bet on a team that I have never supported, that is, I am a Madrid fan, it would be impossible for me to bet for Barcelona, I think I would feel very bad and even dirty, I know it's an exaggeration, but I'm not capable, I don't know if one day my son will become a soccer professional and if he has to play on that team, I think my heart would have to break two, because for me the first thing is my son and his success, but I would tell him in every possible way that he left better so that Madrid could take him, otherwise I would still support him, it would be a very strange feeling, but it would be a very exceptio special, I think that would be the only way I could support a team for which I have not supported all my life.

If you are someone whose really that too emotional type of person on which showing off some support into the team you do like then you wont really be caring on how much you would really be putting up bets on them
even if you do saw that they arent the favorites or simply the underdog on such game but still you have decided on betting on them. Its not really that bad on making out such kind of bet but of course majority of
people would really be minding about on how to make those wins or simply with profits on which of course it would really be normal that you would really be needing up some adjustments if you are really that serious on making some bucks.

Although not all people would really be just only coming after for the money but rather they would really be here for the support and this is why you would really be seeing these kind of types and it would be better that you shouldnt really be making some argumentations with these fellas if you dont really like for some long winding kind of argument because they would really be fighting
for their own views and decisions of course.

The initial goal of gambling is to win. The purpose of fanatism (I hope I made myself clear) is to root for and support your team. It is necessary to separate gambling from fanatism, because in this case the goals begin to contradict each other. Otherwise, this leads to such stupidity as an obviously losing bet. Mixing the cold common sense of a gambler with the hot emotional expectations of a fan will certainly end in losses.

I would not make a bet that was unprofitable (in my opinion), but as a compromise I would simply ignore the match of my favorite team as a subject of bets. That is, I would separate gambling from fanatism, because I would devote time to these entertainments at different times.

Yeah no kidding there, gambling is serious business and when there is money involved, you need to have back up predictions to run that bet and not just your own fanaticism to blind you. If a person is being serious about their bets they would not take sides but go with their prediction homework.

Like I said, this the thing that has led to sports betting over the years to evolve into what it is today. So we cant deny the link between two, of course it exists and it exists in a bad way only the make the person lose money if not careful to get carried away by emotions.

Op I have never believed that a particular team is certain to lose a match even when their key players are not among the first eleven players .football is a game of chance and luck and it is very certain that the one you are hoping to lose will end up winning with different margin .if I love a team I can’t stake because of love I can only stake on the basics of their performance and their winning record, I have once placed bet for the sake of love and it nearly landed me to a big problem but it is based on correct score and love for individual player but going so  far to stake a team for the sake of love I have never tried that. And I will not try it because football is meant to be two sided and any team can win irrespective of how small they are because i did not believe in small team .

Yes, it's true that no team is ever certain to lose s particular match, but with past record, one is likely to have a clue which team likely to perform best.

Correct scores are mostly one of the hardest kind of games to bet one, as the probability of the the outcome of the game to go as predicted always 0.1%. which is why I personally do love betting with either Over, Under or Draw, as there is a high chance of you winning with either Over or Under, than correct scores. However, when it comes to the topic of discussion, I will say that one of the qualities of a good gambler is supposed to have been his/her ability to distinguish/separate himself from club loyalty and profit maximization, of which if your club is said to be playing a match and you are very sure they are likely to lose the game, it better you bet on the side with the winning potential or skip the game.