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Title: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: blue Snow on March 30, 2024, 02:00:59 AM
I often watch poker videos on YouTube where the player have very good acting to hiding his cards through his flat face. I have seen them being able to win with very bad cards on their hand with a good bluff, all in his chips. So I imagine, and often play poker online, I am very happy if I get a good card and I can't hide it well so just go all in all my chips. So what do you think?, how do other players know when I have good cards when playing online?, Is by check and don't call the bet they know we don't have a good card?, I'm not good at hiding it, sometime when I have double AS, I always all in at the beginning.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: Assface16678 on March 30, 2024, 02:12:29 AM
Well, I will still choose to play online poker or any online gambling, its because I started gambling using online casinos so I don't know the feeling or feel of offline or physical casino, it may be a good experience but with my current situation I don't have the time and luxury to go to a physical casino, but of course I'm open to playing in a physical casino in some other time, but for now I choose online casino, aside from its hassle free you can play anytime and anywhere you want, also poker is one of my favorite card casino games, I think card games casino are more efficient because your winnings will depend on your decision and way of thinking, just as you've said in physical casino or poker they could cheat or manipulate the result while in online you can't possibly cheat or the casino itself can't trick you, so Yeah I'm more on online casino than physical one.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: wxa7115 on March 30, 2024, 02:54:01 AM
I often watch poker videos on YouTube where the player have very good acting to hiding his cards through his flat face. I have seen them being able to win with very bad cards on their hand with a good bluff, all in his chips. So I imagine, and often play poker online, I am very happy if I get a good card and I can't hide it well so just go all in all my chips. So what do you think?, how do other players know when I have good cards when playing online?, Is by check and don't call the bet they know we don't have a good card?, I'm not good at hiding it, sometime when I have double AS, I always all in at the beginning.

Better in what sense? Poker online is very different than to play poker offline, for example one of the great things of playing poker online is that you can gamble at several different tables at the same time, plus the speed is faster as well, so if you are a good poker player you can make more money online than what you can make offline.

However the advantage of offline poker is that if you can read your opponents due to their body language, then you can more easily avoid dangerous situations or take advantage of your superior hand.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: Eternad on March 30, 2024, 03:02:34 AM
Online poker is full of thrash players doing a lot shit decision making because they are hiding from their computer. I’m not professional poker but I preferred playing on actual table compared online because you can guarantee that you play against real players and no thrash players that always doing all-in frequently just to bluff.

You will never experience a good poker game online unless you are in a table with players that you play before. Many online poker table has an issue of collusion which I really hate because it’s very hard to verify it online especially if the casino itself is the one who plant this players.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: Poker Player on March 30, 2024, 04:22:11 AM
Online poker is full of thrash players doing a lot shit decision making because they are hiding from their computer. I’m not professional poker but I preferred playing on actual table compared online because you can guarantee that you play against real players and no thrash players that always doing all-in frequently just to bluff.

You don't have much idea what you're talking about. Nowadays there are few "trash players" as you say, even at the lowest levels, and I would like to find tables full of players going all in just to bluff as it happened 15 years ago.

To address the OP's question, everything has its advantages and disadvantages. In general when playing poker in person the opponents are worse but you need more capital, the games are slower and you have to go there. Online you can play comfortably from home, use statistics programs and although the tables are tougher you can play a much higher number of hands per hour, compensating for the lower winrate.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: Wexnident on March 30, 2024, 04:38:07 AM
I often watch poker videos on YouTube where the player have very good acting to hiding his cards through his flat face. I have seen them being able to win with very bad cards on their hand with a good bluff, all in his chips. So I imagine, and often play poker online, I am very happy if I get a good card and I can't hide it well so just go all in all my chips. So what do you think?, how do other players know when I have good cards when playing online?, Is by check and don't call the bet they know we don't have a good card?, I'm not good at hiding it, sometime when I have double AS, I always all in at the beginning.

Well you just remove the face factor and literally everyone has the same factors involved in both online and offline, habits. Some people often show it pretty blatantly with no intention of hiding it and from that, you could create a sort of character for that person so that you can preemptively notice what type of cards he has just based on what he does. When he calls, you can say his card is neutral. Raises means his card is somewhat good. That's just the bottom-of-the-barrel description though, some may just be baiting you out.

Each person has their own habits (purposeful or not) so you can't really describe one as a general description for all. They may even showcase some obvious habits so that you'd fall into their trap or something.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on March 30, 2024, 04:50:07 AM
Well , this is about offline poker or in an online casino , things to understand how an online player plays, sometimes there are paths that one can follow, when the player increases the bet because some do it but have a very good game, others who fold They are because they really show that when there is no good game they have nothing to do, but the players who stay at the end and thus lose money are the ones who are really difficult to read.

When players go all-in it is sometimes something very difficult to determine, normally I never play that with them, but I see that if the others manage to go All-in I would like to see what they have, because if I see wins, it already gives me an indication of that he is a person who shows security with his bets, it is not good to take risks when he increases it , well, they are just things that I have learned over time, I don't know. how valid they are, what I know is pure instinct regarding that type of behavior.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: Distinctin on March 30, 2024, 05:19:50 AM
I often watch poker videos on YouTube where the player have very good acting to hiding his cards through his flat face. I have seen them being able to win with very bad cards on their hand with a good bluff, all in his chips. So I imagine, and often play poker online, I am very happy if I get a good card and I can't hide it well so just go all in all my chips. So what do you think?, how do other players know when I have good cards when playing online?, Is by check and don't call the bet they know we don't have a good card?, I'm not good at hiding it, sometime when I have double AS, I always all in at the beginning.


If I'm getting serious like betting a decent amount, I would prefer to play offline or in our local casino as I feel it's more transparent. Not saying that online poker are rigged but between the two, I wouldn't choose online. That means it depends on the amount I would risk, if it's small, like I'm just having fun, then I go with online casino.

Personally, most of my bets goes with sports when we talk about online betting, so I'm also an online better but I choose to limit my bets depending on the kind of game I'm playing.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: moneystery on March 30, 2024, 05:20:10 AM
both online and offline poker have their respective advantages and disadvantages. for example, online poker allows people to be able to play poker directly from their devices without the hassle of traveling, minus the fact that they cannot feel the atmosphere of the casino and the emotions of the other players. for offline poker, the advantage is that players can directly face other players and see their emotions and feel the casino vibe directly, the disadvantage is that they need to spend money on snacks, transport, etc.

so the question is which is better? it depends on the gambler, whether they prefer to play online poker or offline poker.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: livingfree on March 30, 2024, 05:43:48 AM
I often watch poker videos on YouTube where the player have very good acting to hiding his cards through his flat face. I have seen them being able to win with very bad cards on their hand with a good bluff, all in his chips. So I imagine, and often play poker online, I am very happy if I get a good card and I can't hide it well so just go all in all my chips. So what do you think?, how do other players know when I have good cards when playing online?, Is by check and don't call the bet they know we don't have a good card?, I'm not good at hiding it, sometime when I have double AS, I always all in at the beginning.
There is no way that the other players will know what cards you have because they can't see your reaction.

This is the good reason to play poker online when you don't want to see people's reaction and so as them won't also see your face.

But I think with how you play, they'll see and get you notice if you usually bluff. So, if you're a typical bluffer, they'll remember that as factor and that might be used against you even it's online.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: danherbias07 on March 30, 2024, 06:25:19 AM
Depends on how you think you can make a poker face. Bluffing.
There are people who are good at this so maybe you can try it with friends first if they think you are good at keeping your cards a secret and not revealing it through your face.
I know one friend who was good at it and he became a champion in a mini-tournament poker (physical not online). Now, he is trying to get more money through his friends (us) by investing with him so he can join a larger tournament where the stakes are high and so is the prize money.
If you can stay calm when you are holding 2 aces then it's possible that you might put other players in a trap and end it after the flop. Some poker players don't really want to take it long when they are holding strong cards, they don't want to give opportunity to other players to gain a three of a kind of better. (straight or flush) so, it will depend on your strategy too.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: Findingnemo on March 30, 2024, 07:16:26 AM
I often watch poker videos on YouTube where the player have very good acting to hiding his cards through his flat face. I have seen them being able to win with very bad cards on their hand with a good bluff, all in his chips. So I imagine, and often play poker online, I am very happy if I get a good card and I can't hide it well so just go all in all my chips. So what do you think?, how do other players know when I have good cards when playing online?, Is by check and don't call the bet they know we don't have a good card?, I'm not good at hiding it, sometime when I have double AS, I always all in at the beginning.


When you go all in or don't make a call makes it obvious that you call depends on your cards which will let the other players to find your strategy even while playing online so you need to have certain skills of manipulating the opponents by your move still the poker face is not relevant while playing online that reduces the chance of exposing yourself to some extent.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: yahoo62278 on March 30, 2024, 07:21:47 AM
You're never going to make any money playing that way. The point of the game is to get players to give you chips and all in preflop is normally not going to get you called very often. Poker is a mental game and your chips are how you figure your opponents hand out. You make a bet and immediately have to start trying to piece together what your opponent might be calling you with. Does he have a draw, does he have a small pair, does he already have you beat?

Might be time for you to start watching some strategy and visiting the 2+2 forum and learning a little more about the game.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: qwertyup23 on March 30, 2024, 07:24:39 AM
I often watch poker videos on YouTube where the player have very good acting to hiding his cards through his flat face. I have seen them being able to win with very bad cards on their hand with a good bluff, all in his chips. So I imagine, and often play poker online, I am very happy if I get a good card and I can't hide it well so just go all in all my chips. So what do you think?, how do other players know when I have good cards when playing online?, Is by check and don't call the bet they know we don't have a good card?, I'm not good at hiding it, sometime when I have double AS, I always all in at the beginning.


Like what you mentioned, this specifically depends on what type of game you are playing on.

Like what you provided on your example, poker involves skill and strategy to be employed to gain an advantage over the others. There are strategies such as bluffing, calling, etc. which could definitely yield you the win if you do it properly and convincingly. Obviously, poker is a game of strategy where playing in a physical casino can open up various strategies that cannot be employed effectively if you are playing online.

Though this may be the case, there are certain games that are played online which are as effective and convenient. For example, if you regularly play slots, then it would be recommended to play it online to save you the time and effort of visiting a casino.

At the end of the day, it really depends on the type of game you are playing. If you want to employ strategies that can only be effective face-to-face, then visit a physical casino. But if you aim for convenience, then naturally, playing online would be the best case.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: bettercrypto on March 30, 2024, 07:55:22 AM
I often watch poker videos on YouTube where the player have very good acting to hiding his cards through his flat face. I have seen them being able to win with very bad cards on their hand with a good bluff, all in his chips. So I imagine, and often play poker online, I am very happy if I get a good card and I can't hide it well so just go all in all my chips. So what do you think?, how do other players know when I have good cards when playing online?, Is by check and don't call the bet they know we don't have a good card?, I'm not good at hiding it, sometime when I have double AS, I always all in at the beginning.


For me, it's more convenient and comfortable to play poker online compared to live poker games. Because it seems like you can really think properly, and no one around you will whisper to you about the thing you are doing in poker strategy.

Unlike physical poker, where you are in the actual game itself, there seems to be a lot of distraction because there are people watching around you. You know what that means. This is just my opinion.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: Woodie on March 30, 2024, 08:16:06 AM

This is not a one shoe fits all situation as everyone that plays poker has their own preference. And besides choosing between playing physically around people versus playing online can depend on how well your social skills are around people, if you feel nervous if you get around a real table and all kinds of phobias... otherwise I prefer to play online as it allows everyone to play in their own comfortable space, newbie's can play too with the aid of a chat on how to play or play in their hands and other players won't even know what's happening .

All in all, every player needs to experience both setups to avoid bias feedback, otherwise poker is enjoyed if played in person.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: Gozie51 on March 30, 2024, 08:35:39 AM
I think it is easier to read the mind of players when you play offline. Some players are nervous when they are up against you and if you are well into your game you can easily take that as advantage to psychologically outsmart the other player. Emotion is always an advantage if you can use that well but online is more robotic and you have to play without emotion because there is no room for that on the internet. So I feel the more physical aspect of poker than online.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: retreat on March 30, 2024, 08:51:20 AM
It depends on the person, some say that online poker is better compared to offline poker because it is more accessible and offers a more enjoyable playing experience, but there are also those who say that offline poker is better because it is "the real poker". I don't play poker myself, so I can't say which is better, but if you look at gamblers nowadays, most of them say that online poker is better than offline poker, because of the convenience and their identities are less exposed, and I quite agree to that.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: Oasisman on March 30, 2024, 09:00:37 AM
I often watch poker videos on YouTube where the player have very good acting to hiding his cards through his flat face. I have seen them being able to win with very bad cards on their hand with a good bluff, all in his chips. So I imagine, and often play poker online, I am very happy if I get a good card and I can't hide it well so just go all in all my chips. So what do you think?, how do other players know when I have good cards when playing online?, Is by check and don't call the bet they know we don't have a good card?, I'm not good at hiding it, sometime when I have double AS, I always all in at the beginning.


There's no way you will know your opponent's card, even if it means that they go all in suddenly after a few checks and a couple of cards on the deck. Some people are good at being unpredictable, those are the people who played poker their whole life.  Some people are predictable after several rounds.
People like you, I presume a predictable one because you can't hold your emotions when you have good cards. Veterans can go all in even if the cards in their hand and on the deck doesn't make sense, just to bluff and scare those mediocre players.
That, is the beauty of the poker compared to other gambling games. Poker is more than just gambling, it's a psychological warfare.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: Hypnosis00 on March 30, 2024, 09:04:44 AM
Playing offline has a huge tense but at least, you can be assured that the game is fair or something no hidden illegal activities.
Unlike in online games, well, that is somewhat easy to decide but as I've said, we can't assure that this is fair game or somewhat manipulated results. And most of all, the tendency to lose control of our emotions and be spending more.

Which is better? A place where I enjoy the game without thinking that I was cheated. I think that is everyone's wish - to have a fair game and even we lose we don't blame the casino.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: iv4n on March 30, 2024, 02:59:38 PM
So I imagine, and often play poker online, I am very happy if I get a good card and I can't hide it well so just go all in all my chips.

If you bet all in every time you get some nice cards you are easy to read. It's foolish to talk about what can happen on the poker table without knowing many factors (number of players, their bankrolls, type of the game, etc), but generally going all in with good cards can easily backfire on you. Poker requires patience, watching other players, and whenever you have good cards to try to get them into play...

I'm more into online poker, but I have been playing very rarely in the past years. Somehow crypto poker places don't catch my interest... I guess I will be more active when some interesting poker places come up.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: Wapfika on March 30, 2024, 03:10:00 PM
So I imagine, and often play poker online, I am very happy if I get a good card and I can't hide it well so just go all in all my chips.

If you bet all in every time you get some nice cards you are easy to read. It's foolish to talk about what can happen on the poker table without knowing many factors (number of players, their bankrolls, type of the game, etc), but generally going all in with good cards can easily backfire on you. Poker requires patience, watching other players, and whenever you have good cards to try to get them into play...

I'm more into online poker, but I have been playing very rarely in the past years. Somehow crypto poker places don't catch my interest... I guess I will be more active when some interesting poker places come up.

I play a lot on Pokerstar poker app on playstar and I encounter a lot of players that always playing all-in whether good or bad cards because they are relying solely on the flop, turn and river card to be in their way. They have nothing to lose since chips in there are cheap and free. They can always buy in when they bust.

This is what I hate in online poker because players are unpredictable. After all, they always think that they can always play again using their reserve money. I still don't play on real online poker tables but my experience with free poker games makes me discouraged from playing with real money.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: blue Snow on March 31, 2024, 12:07:54 AM
People like you, I presume a predictable one because you can't hold your emotions when you have good cards.
Yes, this is the problem when I am playing poker offline, I can't hide my emotion when have a good card, my face will definitely light up and my opponent will know that I have good cards. And, Of course it will be different if I am play online, no body know my gesture, and indirectly I can acting like I don't have a good card. But, is there any casino where we playing poker with videos like zoom, or meeting?, if there were, this would be very interesting because even playing online and don't meet with another playing, we can know their face like playing ofline poker.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: ChiBitCTy on March 31, 2024, 01:58:07 AM
I think it just entirely depends on your situation.  Some people like to play poker online that way they can be playing multiple games at once.  Personally I think playing poker in person is far more fun and more legitimate.  It's really hard to do things such as bluffing when you're playing online.

Either way for me, poker is hands down the best game Casino wise, so I like to play online as well as in person.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: pinggoki on March 31, 2024, 02:37:18 AM
Just don't react to it, best thing to do is to play poker and learn how to control your emotions, you can hide your anger when something makes you angry right? Use that method to hide what you're feeling in that hand that you've been dealt with, it's not easy but it takes practice, you can also do a more advance thing but since you're an emotional person, you can probably do it much better, using that emotion to bluff and deceive your opponents, be boisterous and loud that it annoys the players which can most of the time throw them off their game if you've done a good job being a crazy guy on the poker table, you can watch how Daniel Negreanu play in high stakes table, dude really pisses off good poker players with his antics and his crazy predictions, some even give up their poker face when he hits the right cards of his opponents. I think that offline is a more socially energizing way to play poker than an online one, I think there's no debate in here, if you can talk while playing poker, that's the much better thing to do.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: yahoo62278 on March 31, 2024, 03:06:16 AM
People like you, I presume a predictable one because you can't hold your emotions when you have good cards.
Yes, this is the problem when I am playing poker offline, I can't hide my emotion when have a good card, my face will definitely light up and my opponent will know that I have good cards. And, Of course it will be different if I am play online, no body know my gesture, and indirectly I can acting like I don't have a good card. But, is there any casino where we playing poker with videos like zoom, or meeting?, if there were, this would be very interesting because even playing online and don't meet with another playing, we can know their face like playing ofline poker.

You are still telling a story with how you bet. If you are pushing all in everytime you play a hand, you're not normally going to win that many chips. Like I said before, read up on some strategy and join the 2+2 forum. They have tons of information available to potential players.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: Bitinity on March 31, 2024, 03:16:01 AM
I often watch poker videos on YouTube where the player have very good acting to hiding his cards through his flat face. I have seen them being able to win with very bad cards on their hand with a good bluff, all in his chips. So I imagine, and often play poker online, I am very happy if I get a good card and I can't hide it well so just go all in all my chips. So what do you think?, how do other players know when I have good cards when playing online?, Is by check and don't call the bet they know we don't have a good card?, I'm not good at hiding it, sometime when I have double AS, I always all in at the beginning.

In offline poker, you can try to fool other opponents with your act, expressions, or others but on the other side your opponent may read it eventually. What you need to do when playing poker in both offline and online is that you should not play with fixed pattern because your opponents will be able to read it easily. Which one is better between offline and online? It depends on your preferences, some players prefer to play offline because the experience is real by playing face to face with others while some others prefer to play online because of their own reasons.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: UchihaSarada on March 31, 2024, 03:27:26 AM
Playing Poker online, you cannot predict your opponent's emotions. I think this is the most important thing for you to win in this game. If you cannot grasp the opponent's psychology and how they react when betting, it will be difficult for you to make your decision. Poker is an emotional game, if we play online, we will not be able to get this feeling, losing the fun of the game. Therefore, I often prioritize playing offline poker rather than playing online. If playing online, you should choose to play via webcam, it will be less boring.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: Cryptoprincess101 on March 31, 2024, 04:15:40 AM
Whether online or offline is is based on choice as some people may prefer playing online while others will choose playing online but to me I would prefer online poker because it is very transparent without any manipulation but for offline poker I feel there is always partiality and manipulation which doesn't make the game funful, so the reason for playing a game is just for fun and not for timid feelings


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: Chato1977 on March 31, 2024, 04:28:35 AM
if you are a poker player of both then surely you will choose Offline because the feeling and the excitement is there reading each opponent about their behavior an reactions but if you wanted to be fooled by online operators then you will be forever in that positions.
personally I hate online gambling because we cannot see our opponents faces to read whats on their mind.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: virasog on March 31, 2024, 04:37:01 AM
if you are a poker player of both then surely you will choose Offline because the feeling and the excitement is there reading each opponent about their behavior an reactions but if you wanted to be fooled by online operators then you will be forever in that positions.
personally I hate online gambling because we cannot see our opponents faces to read whats on their mind.

I think both online and offline gambling is fun and one cannot deny that there are a lot of people who prefer online gambling over offline gambling and the same goes for Poker too. If all depends upon one interest.

Also sometimes we have no one around us to whom we can take ourselves to play physical poker and sometimes you won't find time to visit a poker club to pay with an unknown individual. In these cases. Online poker comes in handy when you can enjoy it online and use the chat feature on the sites that enable you to chat with the opponent, though still, his face won't be visible.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: michellee on March 31, 2024, 05:57:37 AM
There is no way for another player to know his opponent's cards unless his opponent shows them to the other players. If you want to learn bluffing, you can play poker offline. You can see the player's expressions, trying to be calm as if they had bad cards.

You must be able to bluff your opponent, especially if you don't have good cards. This makes it difficult for them to guess the cards you have. But if you play poker online, you won't know the facial expressions of each player.

Playing offline poker provides a more stressful and enjoyable experience than online poker. That's because we can see the expressions of each player. We can also learn to act to outwit other players.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: Don Pedro Dinero on March 31, 2024, 06:07:56 AM
As with all such questions, it is relative, there is no one thing that is objectively 'better' than another. I personally prefer to play online, and I would say that in general there is a tendency nowadays as in everything else, that people prefer online versions of activities that can be done in person. There is more and more online banking and less and less people going in person to a bank branch, or people watching movies online at home instead of going to the cinema. Well, this is the same, although it depends on personal preferences and there will be those who prefer to go to the casino in person.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: agustina2 on March 31, 2024, 06:33:43 AM
So what do you think?, how do other players know when I have good cards when playing online?

Depends on your call.

Since you are up against experienced online players, they are somehow used to determining what's on the mind of their opponent. But remember that it's about only their instinct and if you eat the bait, they will assume things that are currently on your mind. Anyway, just keep up with the others as possible as you can while playing online, and don't mind how they will know your next move. Instead, think of how will you determine their next move. Counter them with your strategy.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: davis196 on March 31, 2024, 06:58:23 AM
I often watch poker videos on YouTube where the player have very good acting to hiding his cards through his flat face. I have seen them being able to win with very bad cards on their hand with a good bluff, all in his chips. So I imagine, and often play poker online, I am very happy if I get a good card and I can't hide it well so just go all in all my chips. So what do you think?, how do other players know when I have good cards when playing online?, Is by check and don't call the bet they know we don't have a good card?, I'm not good at hiding it, sometime when I have double AS, I always all in at the beginning.


Online players can find out that you have good cards by analyzing the patterns in your game. Going all in at the beginning, when you have good cards is a mistake, because the other players will come to the conclusion that you have good cards. Luck is always a big factor in poker and sometimes your bluffs can win, but this won't be consistent. Poker is about analyzing the opponents game, risk management, luck and trying to trick your opponents into thinking that you have weak cards, while raising the stakes.
I prefer online poker because I'm not the most social and extroverted person. I don't know how good I am at having a "poker face".
Why do you try both offline and online poker and then decide which one is better for you.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: len01 on March 31, 2024, 07:16:29 AM
I often watch poker videos on YouTube where the player have very good acting to hiding his cards through his flat face. I have seen them being able to win with very bad cards on their hand with a good bluff, all in his chips. So I imagine, and often play poker online, I am very happy if I get a good card and I can't hide it well so just go all in all my chips. So what do you think?, how do other players know when I have good cards when playing online?, Is by check and don't call the bet they know we don't have a good card?, I'm not good at hiding it, sometime when I have double AS, I always all in at the beginning.

one of the old games that I really like and to this day I still play it to entertain myself and get a little profit.
online poker games are a little different from offline poker and of course everyone here knows the difference. When playing offline poker, we can tell from movements or worried faces that we usually have bad cards, but in online poker we can't see which players really have good cards or have bad card.
all of this is really just about your strategy or skill on how to keep getting small profits from bad cards.
and in my opinion, if you go all in when you have a double AS, you are actually giving a signal to other players that your cards are so good that all your opponents will choose to fold.

I will tell you a little strategy that I often use but you don't need to because each table usually has different opponents and the situation will also be different.
usually I am more patient when playing online poker looking at the playing patterns of other gamblers and when I already know the playing patterns I start to use a strategy to call small amounts even though I only have one pair of cards in my hand and when several other gamblers start to call, I will call again in slightly large amounts just to bluff other players.
I only do it a few times each round and when I get a really good card I will do the same thing call small amounts and continuing to call increases every round and go all in.

It's a little difficult to explain what strategy each person uses because actually it's about each person's skill, even though you will try several strategies from other people, but if you don't understand the patterns of other players it certainly won't work well.
you just need to look at the playing styles of other gamblers so that you can take advantage of them in certain situations.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: chaser15 on March 31, 2024, 07:29:29 AM
I'm not good at hiding it, sometime when I have double AS, I always all in at the beginning.

You don't need to practice hiding if you are not comfortable with it. On the other hand, you also don't need to practice knowing what's their card per round. Focus on your own way to come out a winner every round. In every round, you will encounter lots of strategies that your opponent can use against you, take note of those and use them on your own if you think that's applicable.

It's better to play poker online, against real players, than offline playing against a programmed opponent. You can maximize your skills if you are up against a real human and the pressure is there if you play online whereas offline, you will just feel comfortable and relaxed.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: famososMuertos on March 31, 2024, 09:21:55 PM
The adaptation to playing online or in person is progressive, but after you get used to it it is a matter of focus.

Playing live poker tournaments may not be as exciting as you see on television, sometimes even hours go by when you have some action and play an interesting hand.

On the other hand, online you can play many more hands per hour and have more entertainment.

Taking that into account, answering which is better depends on each individual on how to approach the game, in any case there are better chances of winning as an online player than in person, and the reason is that the volume of play per hour is greater.

You have to be really, really good to be a winner in face-to-face poker, at least when it comes to poker tournaments.

People who don't know the game well ask very general questions in reference to poker, like yours, and the reality is that each part of the game can be extended in its complexity.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: o48o on March 31, 2024, 09:41:46 PM
I often watch poker videos on YouTube where the player have very good acting to hiding his cards through his flat face. I have seen them being able to win with very bad cards on their hand with a good bluff, all in his chips. So I imagine, and often play poker online, I am very happy if I get a good card and I can't hide it well so just go all in all my chips. So what do you think?, how do other players know when I have good cards when playing online?, Is by check and don't call the bet they know we don't have a good card?, I'm not good at hiding it, sometime when I have double AS, I always all in at the beginning.

Even though i might be better reading players online, not seeing their faces and it's just based on their tactic, agressivity, when they fold and when they bluff. I would still choose offline if it was easy enough and i wouldn't need to travel much.

I am not best of reading some micro expressions or even determining if someone is lying just by reasing facial expressions. Facial expressions could even distract me, but it's a social game and it's socially interesting to study how people act when they play it. Also i am failry sure that i can bluff pretty well these days, when i am not drinking while playing. And i believe i could just focus on the game in similar way i could do it in online and practice trying to affect their mood to make hasty decisions.

And also poker is way more then gambling to me. Tournaments take so much time that real life human connection element would make matches more appealing to me. In best case my friends will be playing too and we can team up to play out people from the table and reduce competition.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: Oilacris on March 31, 2024, 09:46:09 PM
I often watch poker videos on YouTube where the player have very good acting to hiding his cards through his flat face. I have seen them being able to win with very bad cards on their hand with a good bluff, all in his chips. So I imagine, and often play poker online, I am very happy if I get a good card and I can't hide it well so just go all in all my chips. So what do you think?, how do other players know when I have good cards when playing online?, Is by check and don't call the bet they know we don't have a good card?, I'm not good at hiding it, sometime when I have double AS, I always all in at the beginning.


Online players can find out that you have good cards by analyzing the patterns in your game. Going all in at the beginning, when you have good cards is a mistake, because the other players will come to the conclusion that you have good cards. Luck is always a big factor in poker and sometimes your bluffs can win, but this won't be consistent. Poker is about analyzing the opponents game, risk management, luck and trying to trick your opponents into thinking that you have weak cards, while raising the stakes.
I prefer online poker because I'm not the most social and extroverted person. I don't know how good I am at having a "poker face".
Why do you try both offline and online poker and then decide which one is better for you.
It all comes to reference since not all would really be having that kind of impressions when it comes to things and just like you have said that you arent that comfortable on facing up other people or simply having some issues about socialism then it would really be just that not shocking that you would be choosing up online rather than on offline, but ill tell you honestly that when it comes to poker or other card games then i do prefer on having some offline set up on which you could really be able to make out that kind of social interaction on which you could be able to see those gestures and behaviors in regarding with other gamblers you do have in the table but of course you should really know on how to read them up.

Poker is really that relying on skills and luck of course on which it is really something that you would really be needing up to consider on the time that you do play on out.
When it comes to choices then it would really be that depending on you entirely.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: passwordnow on March 31, 2024, 09:49:48 PM
It's better to play poker online, against real players, than offline playing against a programmed opponent. You can maximize your skills if you are up against a real human and the pressure is there if you play online whereas offline, you will just feel comfortable and relaxed.
I am thinking of the opposite that offline means physical poker tables with real people on it sitting together with you and playing against each other. While for the online type of poker, there are many ways to play poker today with some AIs or bots that might join the table which is programmed by the casino. And that's why I am quite confused about the difference of it between the two based on how it is described by everyone. But I do agree that if we're up against real human and playing it, I prefer more of that.

There have been tables in the past that I've sit but it was long time ago and that's in offline or physical setup and to be honest, I prefer that kind of poker. The tension and emotions are real with that and I think that's what I have been looking for compared from doing it online. But what I like with online is that nobody disturbs me and I get to play anytime I want and anywhere.

But I'd prefer to play it online while I am at home and not in some random areas where anyone can disturb me. That's how it goes for me with the peace that I am finding when I am doing alone. But that peace surely will be broken if most of the cards that I have been holding are losing me but that rarely happens as I believe it's like an equal opportunity that's being shared to the majority of us.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: TelolettOm on March 31, 2024, 10:08:19 PM
I often watch poker videos on YouTube where the player have very good acting to hiding his cards through his flat face. I have seen them being able to win with very bad cards on their hand with a good bluff, all in his chips. So I imagine, and often play poker online, I am very happy if I get a good card and I can't hide it well so just go all in all my chips. So what do you think?, how do other players know when I have good cards when playing online?, Is by check and don't call the bet they know we don't have a good card?, I'm not good at hiding it, sometime when I have double AS, I always all in at the beginning.

I also several times watched this on movies.
Is it possible that in an offline casino, that could actually happen? The point is, is it really possible with such a fast trick? Hmm, or maybe I'll go deeper into watching the film.

Regarding the choice between online and offline poker, I am sure, I will choose online. Firstly, because gambling is restricted in my country, I don't want to get into trouble because of that. Of course,  ;D ;D

However, actually, it will depend on each individual's choice in playing poker gambling. Because there are also people who prefer offline, because the euphoria is different, it is more satisfying to see your opponent's expression directly, and you can also beat them. However, there are also those who prefer online, it could be because they have the same reasons as me or different ones. For example, reasons include maintaining privacy so that people don't find out, it's simpler and more practical, and you can manage your finances better compared to doing gambling directly.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: acroman08 on March 31, 2024, 10:16:11 PM
So what do you think?, how do other players know when I have good cards when playing online?,
They don't really know whether you have a good card or bad card, what they have is just a hunch but there are times where people tend to be too obvious they have a good card or a bad card even when they are playing online.

Is by check and don't call the bet they know we don't have a good card?,
Checking doesn't necessarily mean that you have a bad card.
It can mean a lot of things and it can be bad to assume that someone have a bad card just because they checked

anyway, if you don't call the bet when someone raised, then your only option is to either raised the bet again or to fold.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: Orpichukwu on March 31, 2024, 10:18:21 PM
I often watch poker videos on YouTube where the player have very good acting to hiding his cards through his flat face. I have seen them being able to win with very bad cards on their hand with a good bluff, all in his chips. So I imagine, and often play poker online, I am very happy if I get a good card and I can't hide it well so just go all in all my chips. So what do you think?, how do other players know when I have good cards when playing online?, Is by check and don't call the bet they know we don't have a good card?, I'm not good at hiding it, sometime when I have double AS, I always all in at the beginning.


Online players can find out that you have good cards by analyzing the patterns in your game. Going all in at the beginning, when you have good cards is a mistake, because the other players will come to the conclusion that you have good cards. Luck is always a big factor in poker and sometimes your bluffs can win, but this won't be consistent. Poker is about analyzing the opponents game, risk management, luck and trying to trick your opponents into thinking that you have weak cards, while raising the stakes.
I prefer online poker because I'm not the most social and extroverted person. I don't know how good I am at having a "poker face".
Why do you try both offline and online poker and then decide which one is better for you.
It all comes to reference since not all would really be having that kind of impressions when it comes to things and just like you have said that you arent that comfortable on facing up other people or simply having some issues about socialism then it would really be just that not shocking that you would be choosing up online rather than on offline, but ill tell you honestly that when it comes to poker or other card games then i do prefer on having some offline set up on which you could really be able to make out that kind of social interaction on which you could be able to see those gestures and behaviors in regarding with other gamblers you do have in the table but of course you should really know on how to read them up.

Poker is really that relying on skills and luck of course on which it is really something that you would really be needing up to consider on the time that you do play on out.
When it comes to choices then it would really be that depending on you entirely.
It's actually true that online gambling can be very convenient for most gamblers, but we all know that the thrill and fun which physical casinos offer can not be replicated by online casinos.

In physical casinos you get to actually interact with other players which I don't believe is possible with the new emerging online casinos.

Another important reason to why a physical casino could be considered more preferable when it comes to games like pokers and blackjack is that, you get the chance to study and predict your opponent's next move through their body language or behaviour, which isnr possible with online casinos.

Having the opportunity to read your opponent's body language is very useful and can come in handy during a game. These are the things that make gambling in a physical casino a lot more interesting.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: Yogee on March 31, 2024, 10:35:45 PM
It's different among players. Advance players would probably want to play on a real table but beginners would most likely want to hide their inexperience so the online version is the preference. I personally think neither is above the other. I like offline when I want a good ambiance and online when I just want to play as relaxed as possible.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: dothebeats on March 31, 2024, 10:54:28 PM
If you're not good in hiding your emotions, you'd probably be better off playing online poker. The downside is, you're not going to be able to observe other players as well if they have a good or a bad card. Poker is a great game for the keen observant because they can notice everything, and with it they can use to play their positions better and possibly defeat everyone in the table.

Online poker offers a lot in terms of comfort and availability. You can play anywhere and celebrate if you get the good cards or just fold if you got the bad and express all your frustrations and no one will know.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: blue Snow on April 01, 2024, 12:02:32 AM
People like you, I presume a predictable one because you can't hold your emotions when you have good cards.
Yes, this is the problem when I am playing poker offline, I can't hide my emotion when have a good card, my face will definitely light up and my opponent will know that I have good cards. And, Of course it will be different if I am play online, no body know my gesture, and indirectly I can acting like I don't have a good card. But, is there any casino where we playing poker with videos like zoom, or meeting?, if there were, this would be very interesting because even playing online and don't meet with another playing, we can know their face like playing ofline poker.

You are still telling a story with how you bet. If you are pushing all in everytime you play a hand, you're not normally going to win that many chips. Like I said before, read up on some strategy and join the 2+2 forum. They have tons of information available to potential players.
I just heard that forum have 500000 members and 100 different poker forums, but unfortunately, they won't let me in because of the IP address problem. But I will learn how to play well, by trying to join again at another time, or looking for information outside like youtube video or other forum. thanks for that information.

It's better to play poker online, against real players, than offline playing against a programmed opponent. You can maximize your skills if you are up against a real human and the pressure is there if you play online whereas offline, you will just feel comfortable and relaxed.
maybe you mean the opposite?, because when we play online maybe some player is a programmed opponent and is not a real player like offline. I don't know casino out there have a table who have a robot or AI playing there together with real player. And for sure when we play offline, we have to try to play relaxed to hide our emotion, because when we not playing calmly the opponent know what card we have on hand.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: yahoo62278 on April 01, 2024, 03:28:00 AM
People like you, I presume a predictable one because you can't hold your emotions when you have good cards.
Yes, this is the problem when I am playing poker offline, I can't hide my emotion when have a good card, my face will definitely light up and my opponent will know that I have good cards. And, Of course it will be different if I am play online, no body know my gesture, and indirectly I can acting like I don't have a good card. But, is there any casino where we playing poker with videos like zoom, or meeting?, if there were, this would be very interesting because even playing online and don't meet with another playing, we can know their face like playing ofline poker.

You are still telling a story with how you bet. If you are pushing all in everytime you play a hand, you're not normally going to win that many chips. Like I said before, read up on some strategy and join the 2+2 forum. They have tons of information available to potential players.
I just heard that forum have 500000 members and 100 different poker forums, but unfortunately, they won't let me in because of the IP address problem. But I will learn how to play well, by trying to join again at another time, or looking for information outside like youtube video or other forum. thanks for that information.

It's better to play poker online, against real players, than offline playing against a programmed opponent. You can maximize your skills if you are up against a real human and the pressure is there if you play online whereas offline, you will just feel comfortable and relaxed.
maybe you mean the opposite?, because when we play online maybe some player is a programmed opponent and is not a real player like offline. I don't know casino out there have a table who have a robot or AI playing there together with real player. And for sure when we play offline, we have to try to play relaxed to hide our emotion, because when we not playing calmly the opponent know what card we have on hand.

Sorry to hear that you cannot get into the 2+2 forum, So much help and info there. I watch a few streamers on twitch as well, Matt staples and Jaime Staples are 2 brothers that I like to watch. They also talk strategy from time to time.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: Bitinity on April 01, 2024, 03:40:47 AM
So what do you think?, how do other players know when I have good cards when playing online?,
They don't really know whether you have a good card or bad card, what they have is just a hunch but there are times where people tend to be too obvious they have a good card or a bad card even when they are playing online.

They may know eventually if he does the same thing most of the time which lead him into a pattern. It wont be hard for experienced online poker players to know what he does especially he is still less experienced than others. At first they will just use guessing or predicting and relying on the cards they have but after several hands, if he keeps the same thing again and again then the pattern will be realized by other opponents.

Is by check and don't call the bet they know we don't have a good card?,
Checking doesn't necessarily mean that you have a bad card.
It can mean a lot of things and it can be bad to assume that someone have a bad card just because they checked
anyway, if you don't call the bet when someone raised, then your only option is to either raised the bet again or to fold.
True, it is all about strategy. That's why we should play with various different strategies against the same opponents so it will be a bit difficult for them to know what we do. If we are playing in offline poker, combination between flat gesture and various strategies will be better.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: Swordsoffreedom on April 01, 2024, 03:49:13 AM
It's different among players. Advance players would probably want to play on a real table but beginners would most likely want to hide their inexperience so the online version is the preference. I personally think neither is above the other. I like offline when I want a good ambiance and online when I just want to play as relaxed as possible.

Personally I feel comfortable playing poker or any card game offline. Games like slapjack, crazy eights, blackjack, spades and cribbage are the games I prefer to play offline. And these games we play when friends get together or hangout. Playing these games takes a bit longer time. This is why I don't like to play these games online (mobile or computer).

Online I usually bet on cricket, football, tennis or NBA matches. I find online gambling perfect for these games. But playing card games online makes me bored.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: bitzizzix on April 01, 2024, 04:23:17 AM
It's different among players. Advance players would probably want to play on a real table but beginners would most likely want to hide their inexperience so the online version is the preference. I personally think neither is above the other. I like offline when I want a good ambiance and online when I just want to play as relaxed as possible.

Personally I feel comfortable playing poker or any card game offline. Games like slapjack, crazy eights, blackjack, spades and cribbage are the games I prefer to play offline. And these games we play when friends get together or hangout. Playing these games takes a bit longer time. This is why I don't like to play these games online (mobile or computer).

Online I usually bet on cricket, football, tennis or NBA matches. I find online gambling perfect for these games. But playing card games online makes me bored.
Indeed, playing all types of card games offline is more exciting and also takes longer, making the game more interesting and making you enjoy the atmosphere even more.
Apart from being able to interact directly, we can also read the facial expressions of friends or opponents.
And the weakness we have to accept in playing poker or other cards online lies in time. And online game time is too fast compared to offline games, because the distribution of betting cards and chips is all automatic with little time. And this often happens in a rush due to limited time, which affects concentration.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: Poker Player on April 01, 2024, 05:20:21 AM
True, it is all about strategy. That's why we should play with various different strategies against the same opponents so it will be a bit difficult for them to know what we do. If we are playing in offline poker, combination between flat gesture and various strategies will be better.

I guess you don't know much about playing poker in person. In general, if you play the lower levels, which are usually $1/2 or $2/5, you don't need to change your strategy. Usually there are already quite a few recreational players (one way to identify them is that they are drinking alcohol at the table) and versus them playing few hands, for value and aggressively is usually enough to win.

That of changing strategy is for tables full of regs and pros, typical of higher levels but you need a lot of money to get into them in live poker.

Think that in low level tables, for example $2/5, a full stack is $500, and you should have several available in case the variance screws you.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: Darker45 on April 01, 2024, 05:48:09 AM
Based on my limited experience playing poker, confidence is high online. When you're playing face-to-face with people you don't know, you'd always be apprehensive. Bluffing skills, hiding skills, are intense in a face-to-face poker game, a lot more intense compared to an online game.

I can even remember I couldn't keep my hands from shaking when I was playing actual poker, that's even if I was playing with friends and workmates.

The stakes involved also matter a lot. If it's just small bets, you'd be more confident playing. But if it's a significant amount, your body could show signs involuntarily.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: rodskee on April 01, 2024, 07:10:53 AM
its always having a best experience when we are dealing with face to face opponent ,
the excitement and the mind/facial reading is there and trust me there are no better way to deal with Poker but Off line .
some loves online because of accessibility and less of time but for me? i will keep
 playing off line if giving a chance and time.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: bakasabo on April 01, 2024, 08:23:36 AM
It totally depends from what kind of person gambler is. Some people are nervous, feel discomfort when they are in unknown company, or are simply shy. Playing poker online helps them with these issues. Some people have charisma and can push on others when gambling offline, while awaiting them to make a mistake. In online poker, you can mute such person or dont pay attention to chat at all. But, online poker can never replace experience of live communication with other gambler.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: DabsPoorVersion on April 01, 2024, 08:59:29 AM
I often watch poker videos on YouTube where the player have very good acting to hiding his cards through his flat face. I have seen them being able to win with very bad cards on their hand with a good bluff, all in his chips. So I imagine, and often play poker online, I am very happy if I get a good card and I can't hide it well so just go all in all my chips. So what do you think?, how do other players know when I have good cards when playing online?, Is by check and don't call the bet they know we don't have a good card?, I'm not good at hiding it, sometime when I have double AS, I always all in at the beginning.

There are a lot of ways how the other players determine if you have a good card when you play online:

1. The first thing is the same as your behavior, every time you have double A's you immediately call an all-in at the beginning of the game. That's one easy way for other experienced players to skip a round especially if they have a bad card and avoid any unnecessary losses because you immediately give a hint that you have a good card.

In this scenario, some are also good at analyzing the situation and can decide their next move and sometimes even win against the cards you have.

2. The second thing is that some players do observe the moves of their opponents. They are reading other players through online by watching how they handle each round. If you are the type of player who always folds and waits until you receive a good pair of cards, your opponent can know when to avoid or fight you in that situation.

There are other ways. Only experienced poker players who have become really good by honing their skills and obtaining experience by non-stop playing even if it is online poker.


And to answer your question which one is better, for me, it's playing offline poker.
What I like about poker is its battle in bluff. You can turn the tables against your opponent even if you have a bad set of cards. Your chance of winning depends on how you can easily make a fool of your opponent or how you read them. The feeling of making a bluff if also an experience that will give you full of joy.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: Synchronice on April 01, 2024, 09:19:12 AM
I often watch poker videos on YouTube where the player have very good acting to hiding his cards through his flat face. I have seen them being able to win with very bad cards on their hand with a good bluff, all in his chips. So I imagine, and often play poker online, I am very happy if I get a good card and I can't hide it well so just go all in all my chips. So what do you think?, how do other players know when I have good cards when playing online?, Is by check and don't call the bet they know we don't have a good card?, I'm not good at hiding it, sometime when I have double AS, I always all in at the beginning.

I have played poker in both, real life and online and I have played it not only among my friends but in a real poker environment, the ones you see in the movie. The difference is poker is more exciting to play in real life because you really feel into it, you can keep an eye on everyone around you to know whether they bluff or not, you can also test your skills and ability of guessing what person thinks according to his/her face mimics and during the playing session you try to understand when person bluffs and when they show real emotions. You can also fake your own mimics and face expressions, so that's exciting definitely. In online poker, you can't fake those things as well as you can do in real life and it becomes also very hard to analyze your opponents because you can't see their face.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: Hispo on April 01, 2024, 10:11:55 AM
This is a very personal opinion, but I believe one is supposed to play poker with other people face to face if one has the chance to do so. Playing with other people actually helps to train one abilities to successfully hide good cards and bluff with bad cards without being cought on it, so even if it is with one's friends, it would be great to start having some irl practice when comes to poker.
I also believe there is a social aspect behind playing poker, it is simply not the same when one plays it with people online, in person one can share some drinks, have some snack while commenting on others plays when the round is over and stuff, there are better memories to be built.

The advantage of poker (compared to many other more regional card games) is how popular it is, so it should not take much to find others willing to play with us.  ;)



Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: Outhue on April 01, 2024, 10:24:31 AM
Online poker games will give you more bonuses and rewards, it has a faster gameplay compared to offline poker and the disadvantage is the higher risk of getting cheated.

Any offline game do have a big advantage just like offline poker games, you will be able to read your opponent, which can increase your chances of winning them, and it has lower risk of getting cheated too.

For every beginners I will recommend online poker games, they both do have their pros and cons, but using a reputable online casino should set you straight and limit the cheating area that I said before.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: Gheka on April 01, 2024, 10:25:59 AM
It totally depends from what kind of person gambler is. Some people are nervous, feel discomfort when they are in unknown company, or are simply shy. Playing poker online helps them with these issues. Some people have charisma and can push on others when gambling offline, while awaiting them to make a mistake. In online poker, you can mute such person or dont pay attention to chat at all. But, online poker can never replace experience of live communication with other gambler.
Online poker is convenient for the anonymity as well as the time spent participating in this activity, besides, the players here will be pushed to a balanced advantage when they cannot see facial expressions or verbal interactions, it seems that intuition is the only sense that can help an online poker player, their offline skills cannot be applied to an unknown and non-communicative target. But for some genuine players and enthusiasts of this game, limited communication becomes something that reduces excitement, not in accordance with the calculation and design of the game.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: slapper on April 01, 2024, 10:56:36 AM
First off, online poker eliminates Hollywood bluffing. No more reading faces; it's all about your betting patterns, speed, and guts. Think putting all your chips in pre-flop with aces is genius? Wrong. Basically gambling. You must realize that online sharks analyze your every bet, fold, and play rhythm, not your sweat. They're reading your spirit, not face

Truth bomb: going all-in every other hand hides nothing. Like shouting 'I have a monster!' in a quiet library. Not subtle, right? Also effective? Ignore it. Poker is mental chess, not a slot machine, online or offline. It requires strategic thinking and intentional trickery, not merely throwing chips around for luck. So dump the all-in spam and start creating a mystery bet web. Online and live, that's poker's true art


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: danherbias07 on April 01, 2024, 12:00:09 PM
First off, online poker eliminates Hollywood bluffing. No more reading faces; it's all about your betting patterns, speed, and guts. Think putting all your chips in pre-flop with aces is genius? Wrong. Basically gambling. You must realize that online sharks analyze your every bet, fold, and play rhythm, not your sweat. They're reading your spirit, not face

Truth bomb: going all-in every other hand hides nothing. Like shouting 'I have a monster!' in a quiet library. Not subtle, right? Also effective? Ignore it. Poker is mental chess, not a slot machine, online or offline. It requires strategic thinking and intentional trickery, not merely throwing chips around for luck. So dump the all-in spam and start creating a mystery bet web. Online and live, that's poker's true art
Nicely said.
And also mannerisms. That's gone when you do it online. A player could sometimes read an opponent just by biting his fingernails, knocking the wood, fixing the eyeglasses, touching the hair, and more. Those mannerisms can be a sign of something and great poker players who have been doing it for years can create a good prediction of what the cards are underneath.
I have watched a lot of professional poker players and they can sometimes even tell what exactly are the cards of their opponent. That is why they even have the guts to fold a good card especially if the round goes until the turn because it can change the outcome of the game drastically even with just one card. Let's say the opponent just needs one more shape to make a flush and it happened in the turn. Those kind of things.

Even the pair of aces can lose, how many times have we seen that? TV would bring up the percentage of their winning chance but as long as it's not over until the river, there's no assurance that the high percentage can stay.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: bitterguy28 on April 01, 2024, 12:16:25 PM
if you are a poker player of both then surely you will choose Offline because the feeling and the excitement is there reading each opponent about their behavior an reactions but if you wanted to be fooled by online operators then you will be forever in that positions.
personally I hate online gambling because we cannot see our opponents faces to read whats on their mind.
I agree on you here about my love for offline card games not a fan of Poker but i love black jack and other card games that commonly giving me more chance of enjoying while winning , yeah I'm good in reading mind of opponents lol.
this same reason why i will choose offline game over online game even if online gives me comfort whenever i wanted to play.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: panjul07 on April 01, 2024, 12:30:27 PM
Playing poker online is the better for me, why? Simply because it is impossible for me to play it offline since gambling is illegal in my country so it is impossible to find offline poker room in my country.
No other choice except playing it offline for me, so I have no idea about the experience while playing poker offline but hopefully there will be a chance for me to play it offline in the future.

Yes, this is the problem when I am playing poker offline, I can't hide my emotion when have a good card, my face will definitely light up and my opponent will know that I have good cards.
I'm sure we are from the same country, I'm wondering where did you play poker offline in our country.
Is there a private illegal poker room in your city that is accesible for exclusive players only?
Or do you play it with your friends only in your own house?


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: bakasabo on April 02, 2024, 07:33:25 AM
The best part of playing poker online is that games happens all the time. Anyone is able to start and finish session whenever gambler wants, and in any place with even slow internet connection. With offline, I think gambler must catch a moment. For example offline poker isnt that much popular in our local casinos. Tournaments happen once a week, every Saturday-Sunday. If gambler has a desire to gamble Wednesday during lunch, not only he will find an opponent, but the casino most likely be empty.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: Webetcoins on April 04, 2024, 05:28:33 PM
Are those videos you are talking about, same to what we saw on the TV where there are cameras pointing at them? If yes, then I think they are literally acting there and we think such a trick is easy to pull off in the real game but the reality is they are not really. If you are still curious, then go ahead and just follow the same strategy that you saw there, where you shouldn't go all-in if you have a good card because chances are that your opponents will know it. You are not good hiding, even on other things? If yes, then that sounds great because it can mean that you are a good and honest person lol.

It's too early to do an all-in at the beginning of our plays but even in the mid or later runs, and what if we lose? It may be better to just play minimally to enjoy the game longer and less pressure are going to be experienced by us.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: ChiBitCTy on April 04, 2024, 05:48:54 PM
The best part of playing poker online is that games happens all the time. Anyone is able to start and finish session whenever gambler wants, and in any place with even slow internet connection. With offline, I think gambler must catch a moment. For example offline poker isnt that much popular in our local casinos. Tournaments happen once a week, every Saturday-Sunday. If gambler has a desire to gamble Wednesday during lunch, not only he will find an opponent, but the casino most likely be empty.

Yeah that would be the one huge advantage of playing poker online is that you can spark up a game at any point in time.  I often will log in to one of my online casino accounts to play a quick few hands of texas hold'em, which is a good time waster.

I however will always prefer playing in person as the game feels more "real" to me, as the art of bluffing and things of that nature come more "alive", so to speak.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: Natsuu on April 04, 2024, 05:53:16 PM
The best part of playing poker online is that games happens all the time. Anyone is able to start and finish session whenever gambler wants, and in any place with even slow internet connection. With offline, I think gambler must catch a moment. For example offline poker isnt that much popular in our local casinos. Tournaments happen once a week, every Saturday-Sunday. If gambler has a desire to gamble Wednesday during lunch, not only he will find an opponent, but the casino most likely be empty.

Yeah that would be the one huge advantage of playing poker online is that you can spark up a game at any point in time.  I often will log in to one of my online casino accounts to play a quick few hands of texas hold'em, which is a good time waster.

For convenience sake, then I would agree on this. The transaction is fast and easy, there is no pressure unless I am being chasing while drawing cards and playing. It's just a quick and easy type of playing and an opportune moment to make money. Yet still, we cannot change the fact that if you truly want the real experience, then real time poker would be best. The pressure is on, you can feel the heavy breaths and confusion. Though it's exciting, it takes much more effort and time on my experience.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: bluebit25 on April 04, 2024, 05:54:42 PM
Psychology in poker is an intellectual battle. Controlling emotions and analyzing the psychological aspect of your opponent takes priority over showing nervousness when being dealt good cards. Even some good players can use this against you, you make it really easy for them to predict what your next move will be.

Instead of betting too high on your good hand from the early stages, consider taking your actions slowly so that it is difficult for your opponent to realize how strong your hand is. Use this technique to watch how they play and react when being checked, called or raised to gauge their strategy and confidence level. Let the person think that you have bad hands by pretending to be weak with a good hand but showing him strength with a weak hand, which may cause him to fall into the trap.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: Juse14 on April 04, 2024, 06:51:50 PM
Considering my gambling background with a special emphasis on poker games, there is no definite answer regarding this, so I am not stating that online poker is superior to offline poker because maybe everyone has a style in how they play. Some players may prefer one format over another while others find advantages in both formats.

To play poker offline or online, we must take advantage of our chances of winning in whatever gambling game we play. It is very important for us to change our style of play and not be too predictable for the opponent. Always go all-in when your cards are strong, but make an informed decision whether to slow bet or bluff if your hand is weak. This will make you unpredictable and more profitable as time goes by.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on April 04, 2024, 07:04:26 PM
I often watch poker videos on YouTube where the player have very good acting to hiding his cards through his flat face. I have seen them being able to win with very bad cards on their hand with a good bluff, all in his chips. So I imagine, and often play poker online, I am very happy if I get a good card and I can't hide it well so just go all in all my chips. So what do you think?, how do other players know when I have good cards when playing online?, Is by check and don't call the bet they know we don't have a good card?, I'm not good at hiding it, sometime when I have double AS, I always all in at the beginning.

Better in what sense? Poker online is very different than to play poker offline, for example one of the great things of playing poker online is that you can gamble at several different tables at the same time, plus the speed is faster as well, so if you are a good poker player you can make more money online than what you can make offline.

However the advantage of offline poker is that if you can read your opponents due to their body language, then you can more easily avoid dangerous situations or take advantage of your superior hand.
Very well said bud, I am not a poker player, have come across friends who the game both online and offline, personally, I should by now be an experienced poker player but unfortunately, I've never really sacrificed the time to learn it.

By being around friends who play poker online and offline, what I've learnt in terms of which is better is that, it boils down to personalities, that is; what a person like, and also time, some people have so much time that playing offline poker is never a problem for them, so, they have the time to sit on a poker table for along as possible.
While others don't have such time due to work and other real life activities, so they prefer to the online version of poker, which they can play at any time at their convenience, even in the mid night if this is the time they really have the chance or time to.

So, In the nutshell, choosing between online or offline poker, as to which is better, all depends on individual preferences.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: Mr.suevie on April 04, 2024, 07:11:55 PM
I often watch poker videos on YouTube where the player have very good acting to hiding his cards through his flat face. I have seen them being able to win with very bad cards on their hand with a good bluff, all in his chips. So I imagine, and often play poker online, I am very happy if I get a good card and I can't hide it well so just go all in all my chips. So what do you think?, how do other players know when I have good cards when playing online?, Is by check and don't call the bet they know we don't have a good card?, I'm not good at hiding it, sometime when I have double AS, I always all in at the beginning.

Well am not that familiar with the game of poker but from a general sense I think I prefer playing games online than playing them on physical casino shops. There is a lot of comfort from playing home at your own convenience than playing in a local gaming shop or house where alot of dramas can play out anytime at all and besides I believe everyone loves their privacy and like keeping their gambling anonymous well I can say for sure that I do but can't say the same for everyone though.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: coolcoinz on April 04, 2024, 07:13:40 PM
First off, online poker eliminates Hollywood bluffing. No more reading faces; it's all about your betting patterns, speed, and guts. Think putting all your chips in pre-flop with aces is genius? Wrong. Basically gambling. You must realize that online sharks analyze your every bet, fold, and play rhythm, not your sweat. They're reading your spirit, not face

Truth bomb: going all-in every other hand hides nothing. Like shouting 'I have a monster!' in a quiet library. Not subtle, right? Also effective? Ignore it. Poker is mental chess, not a slot machine, online or offline. It requires strategic thinking and intentional trickery, not merely throwing chips around for luck. So dump the all-in spam and start creating a mystery bet web. Online and live, that's poker's true art

Wow that was deep.

In my case I liked to play with friends and seeing people try to hide what they have or do the opposite of what they used to do in previous rounds to throw others off was always so much fun.
I felt like real game where you can laugh and comment when they finally show their hands is one of the best parts of the game. That social interaction that online poker lacks.

That said, I talk from the perspective of an inexperienced player who considers losing $50 a lot for one night. When we played with friends blinds were less than $1 so I understand when high rollers prefer to focus on the cards with no noises around them and no nervous looks from other people at the table. When you go online you also skip all the drama.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: GxSTxV on April 04, 2024, 07:19:26 PM
Playing poker online gives more opportunities because you are faced to a variety of options and can play multiple rounds anonymously and faster than when it is offline, you get to choose a table that suits your level of skills and preferences and can even play in multiple tables simultaneously which might increase your profits if you are skilled enough and if you can focus well on them.

But I think for someone who plays poker for its atmosphere, it is more fun to play poker in person and live, you get to socialize with many player which might increase your ability to read your opponents' mind by observing his behavior and body language you might be able to have more opportunities to set your strategies right and win. I think live poker games add more enjoyment and excitement. But if you are someone who doesn't know how to hide his facial expressions it might be bad for you to face your opponent face to face because you can lose easily even if your cards are better than his.

So basically I don't think that there is one better than the other,  it is a matter of tastes and preferences and also skills.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: hedgeh0g on April 04, 2024, 08:07:11 PM
I often watch poker videos on YouTube where the player have very good acting to hiding his cards through his flat face. I have seen them being able to win with very bad cards on their hand with a good bluff, all in his chips. So I imagine, and often play poker online, I am very happy if I get a good card and I can't hide it well so just go all in all my chips. So what do you think?, how do other players know when I have good cards when playing online?, Is by check and don't call the bet they know we don't have a good card?, I'm not good at hiding it, sometime when I have double AS, I always all in at the beginning.

It’s just that those who know how to hide their emotions very well, as well as read the clues on their opponents’ faces, will have an advantage. Those who cannot do this will have a negative EB if they play many hands. This brings up an obvious idea: those who are not familiar with hands and cannot read them are better off playing online poker. OP writes that online you can also give signals to your opponent and delay the time bank, but I don’t really believe in such conditional tells, I prefer not to take it seriously, especially since many may be distracted and not see them. While in offline poker everyone usually watches their opponents even after throwing away their cards)


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: darkangel11 on April 04, 2024, 08:12:58 PM
I'm old fashioned and I like the atmosphere of a poker room. I like the tension, the sound of cards being shuffled and chips falling on the pile.
Back in the day we did not have chips and used real coins. It was also a lot of fun. When you play online you miss all the fun.
That's not a real poker game without some fun, someone leaving angry, someone leaving drunk... Life at its finest!


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: FortuneFollower on April 04, 2024, 08:32:34 PM
I often watch poker videos on YouTube where the player have very good acting to hiding his cards through his flat face. I have seen them being able to win with very bad cards on their hand with a good bluff, all in his chips. So I imagine, and often play poker online, I am very happy if I get a good card and I can't hide it well so just go all in all my chips. So what do you think?, how do other players know when I have good cards when playing online?, Is by check and don't call the bet they know we don't have a good card?, I'm not good at hiding it, sometime when I have double AS, I always all in at the beginning.


Absolutely, understanding how you’re perceived in the online realm is quite a shift from live poker, isn’t it? Without seeing someones face, we dive deep into the nuances of their betting behavior and the rhythms of their play. It’s like reading a novel instead of watching a movie, the details are subtler but equally telling.
Throw in some bluffs or call with those strong hands instead of going all in right away. Keep ‘em guessing. It’s about crafting a table image that’s as hard to read as a poker face in the flesh.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: |MINER| on April 04, 2024, 09:21:04 PM
I often watch poker videos on YouTube where the player have very good acting to hiding his cards through his flat face. I have seen them being able to win with very bad cards on their hand with a good bluff, all in his chips. So I imagine, and often play poker online, I am very happy if I get a good card and I can't hide it well so just go all in all my chips. So what do you think?, how do other players know when I have good cards when playing online?, Is by check and don't call the bet they know we don't have a good card?, I'm not good at hiding it, sometime when I have double AS, I always all in at the beginning.
If you ask me that question then the answer will be that no online poker is not better than offline poker game. Actually I want to say that we shouldn't compare with offline and online both have different entertainment. The fun when we and our friends sitting and playing poker of playing with others the fun can't be compared on the others hand online poker make make it easy to access we can also play with others unknown to known person here


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: babygun on April 04, 2024, 10:13:34 PM
I'm old fashioned and I like the atmosphere of a poker room. I like the tension, the sound of cards being shuffled and chips falling on the pile.
Back in the day we did not have chips and used real coins. It was also a lot of fun. When you play online you miss all the fun.
That's not a real poker game without some fun, someone leaving angry, someone leaving drunk... Life at its finest!

Real life poker is always fun, there is more vibe, a better atmossphere, you can try to read your oppenents card by looking at their face, body reactions,… I never played poker in a casino (only against friends) but would love to do just for the experience itself.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: leonair on April 04, 2024, 10:26:53 PM
I often watch poker videos on YouTube where the player have very good acting to hiding his cards through his flat face. I have seen them being able to win with very bad cards on their hand with a good bluff, all in his chips. So I imagine, and often play poker online, I am very happy if I get a good card and I can't hide it well so just go all in all my chips. So what do you think?, how do other players know when I have good cards when playing online?, Is by check and don't call the bet they know we don't have a good card?, I'm not good at hiding it, sometime when I have double AS, I always all in at the beginning.

Gambling is something that gives us a lot of pleasure but it is not a good addiction so gambling should always be kept hidden otherwise it can put us in very bad situations at times.  And one of the big advantages of online gambling is that it is very easy to keep gambling hidden so I prefer online gambling.  Although offline gambling can be much more fun, online gambling is more comfortable for me because it can be easily used anywhere.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: Volimack on April 04, 2024, 11:17:08 PM
I often watch poker videos on YouTube where the player have very good acting to hiding his cards through his flat face. I have seen them being able to win with very bad cards on their hand with a good bluff, all in his chips. So I imagine, and often play poker online, I am very happy if I get a good card and I can't hide it well so just go all in all my chips. So what do you think?, how do other players know when I have good cards when playing online?, Is by check and don't call the bet they know we don't have a good card?, I'm not good at hiding it, sometime when I have double AS, I always all in at the beginning.

Playing poker is a lot of fun offline but the fun of playing with everyone is different. But it is better to play online because you hide what you say. It is easy to protect privacy for playing online. Do not face any bad situation and no one will understand. I choose to be online to hide anything.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: Yatsan on April 04, 2024, 11:19:00 PM
Not that much into poker but I guess if it is between online and offline playing, it will depend on your preference as an individual. Some people want no interaction to other people whenever they are playing because they cannot focus on their decisions while doing it, which is why they'd be better playing online. Some people find it more entertaining to play on landbased casinos due to player interaction. Some tend to read other's facial expressjon limiting 'bluffing' technique. And also, there are people who sometimes prefer a quiet room to do poker but sometimes misses the idea of talking to other people about either loss or profit. If it is convenience on playing then of course online gambling would be at an advantage otherwise it's the opposite set up. Nothing's better in a general perspective I guess; each of the platform has its own pros and cons.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: betswift on April 04, 2024, 11:20:42 PM
I often watch poker videos on YouTube where the player have very good acting to hiding his cards through his flat face. I have seen them being able to win with very bad cards on their hand with a good bluff, all in his chips. So I imagine, and often play poker online, I am very happy if I get a good card and I can't hide it well so just go all in all my chips. So what do you think?, how do other players know when I have good cards when playing online?, Is by check and don't call the bet they know we don't have a good card?, I'm not good at hiding it, sometime when I have double AS, I always all in at the beginning.


When you mention going all in with strong hands like double aces right off the bat, it’s a classic move but also a double-edged sword. It signals confidence, sure, but to the keen observer, it might also telegraph the strength of your hand more clearly than youd wish. In online poker, every click has a tale to tell. From how quickly you make your bets to the size of those bets, seasoned players are piecing together a narrative about your play style.
Your observation about the importance of a poker face in live poker highlights a crucial skill masking your intentions and feelings. However, online poker strips away many of these physical cues, fundamentally changing how players infer the strength of their opponents hands.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: Reid on April 04, 2024, 11:43:58 PM
Physical poker is still way better than online poker and I agree with some members here because I played both and I can say I don't feel the same enthusiasm in online poker as I did in physical poker. The fun part is reading the eyes and movements of your opponent especially if there's only two of you left after other opponents folds. If you played both, you will no doubt feel the difference and then what will happen after the game is where it becomes more fun as you become friends with the people you are betting against.  :D


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: wxa7115 on April 05, 2024, 12:49:57 AM
Physical poker is still way better than online poker and I agree with some members here because I played both and I can say I don't feel the same enthusiasm in online poker as I did in physical poker. The fun part is reading the eyes and movements of your opponent especially if there's only two of you left after other opponents folds. If you played both, you will no doubt feel the difference and then what will happen after the game is where it becomes more fun as you become friends with the people you are betting against.  :D
While the rules are basically the same, poker online and offline are played in a completely different manner, when you are playing online, the only thing that matter is the math, so if the math tells you that a particular move is the best then you do it without thinking too much about it.

But when you are playing live, you need to take into account many other factors, as if your opponent makes a bet, but when they do so you notice some inconsistency with their bet and the way they are behaving, that could be a sign of deceit, which you can later use to your advantage.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: hedgeh0g on April 05, 2024, 07:45:05 PM
Physical poker is still way better than online poker and I agree with some members here because I played both and I can say I don't feel the same enthusiasm in online poker as I did in physical poker. The fun part is reading the eyes and movements of your opponent especially if there's only two of you left after other opponents folds. If you played both, you will no doubt feel the difference and then what will happen after the game is where it becomes more fun as you become friends with the people you are betting against.  :D
While the rules are basically the same, poker online and offline are played in a completely different manner, when you are playing online, the only thing that matter is the math, so if the math tells you that a particular move is the best then you do it without thinking too much about it.

But when you are playing live, you need to take into account many other factors, as if your opponent makes a bet, but when they do so you notice some inconsistency with their bet and the way they are behaving, that could be a sign of deceit, which you can later use to your advantage.
The most important thing here is to correctly read the debater’s messages offline. Sometimes these numbers can be deceiving, so by and large it is better to also play the math so as not to allow yourself to be deceived. Generally speaking, we should rely on this as a last resort and not make it a central priority, which actually helps us win more money. Online, the main thing is to create comfortable conditions for ourselves so that no one disturbs us and we are completely focused on our work. Because if they start to distract us, our EV will definitely fall, even if we get lucky often.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: Fortify on April 05, 2024, 08:23:05 PM
I often watch poker videos on YouTube where the player have very good acting to hiding his cards through his flat face. I have seen them being able to win with very bad cards on their hand with a good bluff, all in his chips. So I imagine, and often play poker online, I am very happy if I get a good card and I can't hide it well so just go all in all my chips. So what do you think?, how do other players know when I have good cards when playing online?, Is by check and don't call the bet they know we don't have a good card?, I'm not good at hiding it, sometime when I have double AS, I always all in at the beginning.


It's definitely going to be a personal thing and can even depend on whether you are doing it for pleasure or trying to make a long term profits. Online play is much faster paced, you can have multiple tables running at any one time and you can reach people on the other side of the world. Playing in person is a whole different picture, you can read "tells" much more easily, it has a much slower pace and you might have more table banter going on. Either way, you're going to find bullies and fish in this game, it's probably easier to leave an online table where you are the weakest player and move along, as opposed to a real world table which can be much more restricting or you might only have one table going in some casinos.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: wheelz1200 on April 05, 2024, 09:11:01 PM
That's a hard no.  You have no idea who is colluding against you when you are online.  I was around for the whole full tilt debacle where there was cheating happening where people could see everyone's cards.  In person you can get an easier feel for tells too.  I'm a player who needs to see people's reactions, I don't just play the cards I play the people too.  In person is way better.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: Kemarit on April 05, 2024, 09:15:15 PM
That's a hard no.  You have no idea who is colluding against you when you are online.  I was around for the whole full tilt debacle where there was cheating happening where people could see everyone's cards.  In person you can get an easier feel for tells too.  I'm a player who needs to see people's reactions, I don't just play the cards I play the people too.  In person is way better.

I think that's one angle to look at, and if I'm not mistaken, there are casinos that have been accused of colluding or at least you don't know that you are playing against a bot so obviously you will lose the game.

So for me, it's better to play offline, I mean that's where you will get the experience to become a good poker player. In online, you can just hide your face and think that you are good. But in face to face, sitting with someone, it's very different, lot of tension specially if both of you have a good hand and going all-in.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: blue Snow on April 07, 2024, 03:08:14 AM
That's a hard no.  You have no idea who is colluding against you when you are online.  I was around for the whole full tilt debacle where there was cheating happening where people could see everyone's cards.  In person you can get an easier feel for tells too.  I'm a player who needs to see people's reactions, I don't just play the cards I play the people too.  In person is way better.
yes of course, by looking at someone's reactions and emotions we can see what cards they have when playing offline. This will be more difficult if playing online, by looking at them always raise and bet some chips we have to be careful if they have good cards on their hands, that's possible they only bluff to just scare you, but if we have a strong mentality and retaliate to reraise bet, It's possible that they are also afraid too that we have a good card than them.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: Poker Player on April 07, 2024, 04:56:28 AM
yes of course, by looking at someone's reactions and emotions we can see what cards they have when playing offline. This will be more difficult if playing online,

Difficult but not impossible, as there are also poker tells. In most cases they have to do with the timing of the bets. A recreational player (or fish) who bets instantly all in or a strong bet has a strong hand, but we have to consider whether he is overvaluing it. Things like that. But obviously it is easier to guess the opponent's hand when playing live.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: peter0425 on April 07, 2024, 05:21:24 AM
I often watch poker videos on YouTube where the player have very good acting to hiding his cards through his flat face. I have seen them being able to win with very bad cards on their hand with a good bluff, all in his chips. So I imagine, and often play poker online, I am very happy if I get a good card and I can't hide it well so just go all in all my chips. So what do you think?, how do other players know when I have good cards when playing online?, Is by check and don't call the bet they know we don't have a good card?, I'm not good at hiding it, sometime when I have double AS, I always all in at the beginning.

there are no better way to play in offline when we are playing against  Human(i call human because in online We don't  really sure whom we are playing against lol)

In offline ? we are dealing face to face , act to act and teeth to teeth  ;) :D ;D

seeing the reaction of each opponent can give us chance in finding what is the position cards of our opponents , same us if the opponent is good they can also find yours ,
so indeed its Offline gambling is what I wanted to choose playing.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: Ever-young on April 07, 2024, 07:02:38 AM
I often watch poker videos on YouTube where the player have very good acting to hiding his cards through his flat face. I have seen them being able to win with very bad cards on their hand with a good bluff, all in his chips. So I imagine, and often play poker online, I am very happy if I get a good card and I can't hide it well so just go all in all my chips. So what do you think?, how do other players know when I have good cards when playing online?, Is by check and don't call the bet they know we don't have a good card?, I'm not good at hiding it, sometime when I have double AS, I always all in at the beginning.

Playing poker is a lot of fun offline but the fun of playing with everyone is different. But it is better to play online because you hide what you say. It is easy to protect privacy for playing online. Do not face any bad situation and no one will understand. I choose to be online to hide anything.
In as much as different people have their preferences while talking about online and offline poker, the both has their disadvantages as well as their advantages too. In terms of privacy, we can boldly say online casino is a top pick, because there are gamblers that prioritize their anonymity and privacy to every other thing. For such people, the best would be choosing online gambling because it's a lot more easier to protect ones privacy keep their emotions hidden when they're playing online which could be seen as the best option for them.
While privacy is also very much important, there are people who also prioritise the social interaction associated with gambling, because that's where they derive their thrilling experience from, for such persons, using an online casino wouldn't be such a great option for them because there are no interactions when gambling online.
It's just a matter of preferences.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: Bitinity on April 07, 2024, 07:09:23 AM
That's a hard no.  You have no idea who is colluding against you when you are online.  I was around for the whole full tilt debacle where there was cheating happening where people could see everyone's cards.  In person you can get an easier feel for tells too.  I'm a player who needs to see people's reactions, I don't just play the cards I play the people too.  In person is way better.
yes of course, by looking at someone's reactions and emotions we can see what cards they have when playing offline. This will be more difficult if playing online, by looking at them always raise and bet some chips we have to be careful if they have good cards on their hands, that's possible they only bluff to just scare you, but if we have a strong mentality and retaliate to reraise bet, It's possible that they are also afraid too that we have a good card than them.

Not as easy as it says, you need a lot of time and experiences to be able to read opponent's gestures. Even a pro player still make mistakes while reading opponent's gestures. Your mental is also important when playing poker both online and offline, even if you feel that you have better card than the opponent, but you may fold your hand if you are not 100% sure with what you have. All in all, it is not only about which one is better for people to play online or offline, but I will say it is more about which one is suitable for us based on our own preferences.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: Marvelman on April 07, 2024, 07:46:18 AM
That's a hard no.  You have no idea who is colluding against you when you are online.  I was around for the whole full tilt debacle where there was cheating happening where people could see everyone's cards.  In person you can get an easier feel for tells too.  I'm a player who needs to see people's reactions, I don't just play the cards I play the people too.  In person is way better.
yes of course, by looking at someone's reactions and emotions we can see what cards they have when playing offline. This will be more difficult if playing online, by looking at them always raise and bet some chips we have to be careful if they have good cards on their hands, that's possible they only bluff to just scare you, but if we have a strong mentality and retaliate to reraise bet, It's possible that they are also afraid too that we have a good card than them.

Not as easy as it says, you need a lot of time and experiences to be able to read opponent's gestures. Even a pro player still make mistakes while reading opponent's gestures. Your mental is also important when playing poker both online and offline, even if you feel that you have better card than the opponent, but you may fold your hand if you are not 100% sure with what you have. All in all, it is not only about which one is better for people to play online or offline, but I will say it is more about which one is suitable for us based on our own preferences.

Reading people's tells at the poker table can be useful, but it has limits.  Professionals use fake signals to manipulate amateurs.  Tells help some, but they're not perfect, even for experts.  You need more to win consistently.  Reading people takes real time and work to get right and you still get tricked sometimes and  so while paying attention helps, you need other skills too.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: AHOYBRAUSE on April 07, 2024, 08:01:39 AM

In my opinion online is better because of the speed.
Played offline several times and the slow action of some people was just so annoying. It was so obvious they fold but still they drag it to not lose face when you or somebody else caught them bluffing.
On the other hand, online is more dangerous addiction wise and general security wise.
When you play offline with real money you can actually see the worth of the money. Online it sometimes doesn't seem real, until you lost of course.
Another factor is collusion, chip dumping, and so on. Online it is hard to prove you are getting cheated while offline it is much easier to figure out in my opinion.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: Solosanz on April 07, 2024, 08:05:02 AM
If you can hide your emotions, land based poker is better.

If you can't hide your emotions, online/virtual poker is better.

So the problem is yourself, not other people. If you can't hide your emotions but you can predict other people by their reactions and gestures, I don't think it's good because you're also showed your vulnerability.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: entertheabyss on April 07, 2024, 10:11:09 AM
Reading people's tells at the poker table can be useful, but it has limits.  Professionals use fake signals to manipulate amateurs.  Tells help some, but they're not perfect, even for experts.  You need more to win consistently.  Reading people takes real time and work to get right and you still get tricked sometimes and  so while paying attention helps, you need other skills too.
We need to gain ground whenever we're about to start something new in the system because the outcome can either be profitable and also bear in losses. Contracting the idea that surrounds the system and not basically hitting on other areas. We anticipate in the sectors that's favorable for us and not following the trends of other people. Everyone shares their losses and profits alone and giving more reasons to always be ontop and not giving up any thoughts about the system.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: arwin100 on April 07, 2024, 10:23:49 AM
I often watch poker videos on YouTube where the player have very good acting to hiding his cards through his flat face. I have seen them being able to win with very bad cards on their hand with a good bluff, all in his chips. So I imagine, and often play poker online, I am very happy if I get a good card and I can't hide it well so just go all in all my chips. So what do you think?, how do other players know when I have good cards when playing online?, Is by check and don't call the bet they know we don't have a good card?, I'm not good at hiding it, sometime when I have double AS, I always all in at the beginning.

Playing poker is a lot of fun offline but the fun of playing with everyone is different. But it is better to play online because you hide what you say. It is easy to protect privacy for playing online. Do not face any bad situation and no one will understand. I choose to be online to hide anything.
In as much as different people have their preferences while talking about online and offline poker, the both has their disadvantages as well as their advantages too. In terms of privacy, we can boldly say online casino is a top pick, because there are gamblers that prioritize their anonymity and privacy to every other thing. For such people, the best would be choosing online gambling because it's a lot more easier to protect ones privacy keep their emotions hidden when they're playing online which could be seen as the best option for them.
While privacy is also very much important, there are people who also prioritise the social interaction associated with gambling, because that's where they derive their thrilling experience from, for such persons, using an online casino wouldn't be such a great option for them because there are no interactions when gambling online.
It's just a matter of preferences.

Maybe depends on the availability of the person since if they know how to play poker and have money to spend for sure if they have time they would go on those physical casino to play this game. But if their schedule is so hectic then provably the option they would choose is online casino since I think they can still the same level of fun.

The only difference is the atmosphere since you might not find it as challenging as you play physically but still you would enjoy it in long run once you are in the climax playing this game. But if people really want privacy I guess this is the luxury what those online casino could bring since they could able to protect their identity especially if they are well known and can gamble smoothly without anyone bothering them.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: Ever-young on April 09, 2024, 10:54:18 AM
I often watch poker videos on YouTube where the player have very good acting to hiding his cards through his flat face. I have seen them being able to win with very bad cards on their hand with a good bluff, all in his chips. So I imagine, and often play poker online, I am very happy if I get a good card and I can't hide it well so just go all in all my chips. So what do you think?, how do other players know when I have good cards when playing online?, Is by check and don't call the bet they know we don't have a good card?, I'm not good at hiding it, sometime when I have double AS, I always all in at the beginning.

Playing poker is a lot of fun offline but the fun of playing with everyone is different. But it is better to play online because you hide what you say. It is easy to protect privacy for playing online. Do not face any bad situation and no one will understand. I choose to be online to hide anything.
In as much as different people have their preferences while talking about online and offline poker, the both has their disadvantages as well as their advantages too. In terms of privacy, we can boldly say online casino is a top pick, because there are gamblers that prioritize their anonymity and privacy to every other thing. For such people, the best would be choosing online gambling because it's a lot more easier to protect ones privacy keep their emotions hidden when they're playing online which could be seen as the best option for them.
While privacy is also very much important, there are people who also prioritise the social interaction associated with gambling, because that's where they derive their thrilling experience from, for such persons, using an online casino wouldn't be such a great option for them because there are no interactions when gambling online.
It's just a matter of preferences.

Maybe depends on the availability of the person since if they know how to play poker and have money to spend for sure if they have time they would go on those physical casino to play this game. But if their schedule is so hectic then provably the option they would choose is online casino since I think they can still the same level of fun.

The only difference is the atmosphere since you might not find it as challenging as you play physically but still you would enjoy it in long run once you are in the climax playing this game. But if people really want privacy I guess this is the luxury what those online casino could bring since they could able to protect their identity especially if they are well known and can gamble smoothly without anyone bothering them.
I think one thing that depends whether a gambler would chose an online casino or a physical casino is how they really define thrill and fun in gambling .

For some, the actual fun isn't really in the game itself, but the interaction and friendly debates and arguments between them and other gamblers, thats where the real fun is.  And if you watch very well, this is the reason why some people leave their houses to go to their local gambling outlets, you won't see them placing any bets but when it comes to arguing and conversing about gambling activities or games, their very much active.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: Findingnemo on April 09, 2024, 11:04:22 AM
If you can hide your emotions, land based poker is better.

If you can't hide your emotions, online/virtual poker is better.

So the problem is yourself, not other people. If you can't hide your emotions but you can predict other people by their reactions and gestures, I don't think it's good because you're also showed your vulnerability.

Poker face is something that comes naturally so we can't expect everyone to have it. And it only increases the winning percentage a little bit and on the professional level table it won't matter at all so I can say its good to enjoy wherever we want to. But why online poker is better cause we can save money from tipping but in land-based casinos it's more like a tradition to tip everyone according to how much you have won.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: TopTort777 on April 09, 2024, 11:12:06 AM
Is talking to a person on the phone better than talking to him IRL? Poker online and offline imho are two different games and people play them to get two different kind of experience. I was said million times already about topic - "it depends from". Some gamblers feel less comfortable when they are behind the screen, than hundred of eyes are looking on him while playing offline.

blue Snow, you have said that when playing online nobody could read you and use that against you. But that isnt always like that. There are those who are good at reading body language aka social engineering. For example by the time you spend thinking should you click call when you get cards, they can build statistics when you bluff or have good cards.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: ethereumhunter on April 09, 2024, 02:12:09 PM
If you can hide your emotions, land based poker is better.

If you can't hide your emotions, online/virtual poker is better.

So the problem is yourself, not other people. If you can't hide your emotions but you can predict other people by their reactions and gestures, I don't think it's good because you're also showed your vulnerability.

Poker face is something that comes naturally so we can't expect everyone to have it. And it only increases the winning percentage a little bit and on the professional level table it won't matter at all so I can say its good to enjoy wherever we want to. But why online poker is better cause we can save money from tipping but in land-based casinos it's more like a tradition to tip everyone according to how much you have won.
Learning to recognize poker faces is hard and needs experiences to analyzes every changing of their face. They must learn for some time to knows the tricks and how to play poker better. Only people who wants to learns from basics that can gets the signs of poker players so they can knows if that's the real bluff or it's fake. They can also bluffs the other players to hides their card positions so they can tricks the other players to gets win. It's needs practices from time to time and they will needs to learn without stops if they wants to becomes a poker pro player.

But if they play poker by online, they will not see the changing faces from each player because they don't playing poker in the real tables. They only used skills to playing and hopes they can wins the games without knows how to tricks the other players. But maybe there are the other ways to knows how to tricks them as for the experiences of the poker players will have more knowledges to knows.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: YOSHIE on April 09, 2024, 02:53:49 PM
Is playing poker online better than offline?
Even though many people say online poker is better than offline, for me it's not all lies and bookies' ploys, I have experience and often bet on poker gambling in the past and I know how they put out their bad cards, it's misleading.

And I also often play physical/real poker and I enjoy winning perfectly, the opponent's cards are clear and what is dealt, we can see directly who is honest and who is cheating, For this reason, I have now come to the conclusion that I no longer want to visit online poker, I am comfortable and enthusiastic about playing offline.

What I'm telling you is not that I'm badmouthing poker gambling, but that's my experience, the point is that all of us here have our own experiences and ways of gambling, you are an expert at online poker that's your greatness, but I'm not lucky for online poker.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: Mauser on April 09, 2024, 02:56:32 PM
I often watch poker videos on YouTube where the player have very good acting to hiding his cards through his flat face. I have seen them being able to win with very bad cards on their hand with a good bluff, all in his chips. So I imagine, and often play poker online, I am very happy if I get a good card and I can't hide it well so just go all in all my chips. So what do you think?, how do other players know when I have good cards when playing online?, Is by check and don't call the bet they know we don't have a good card?, I'm not good at hiding it, sometime when I have double AS, I always all in at the beginning.


Going all in immediately when you have a good hand is not a good idea, because it makes you very predictable and people are not likely to call you. Especially when holding the best possible hand you want to make the pot as large as possible, but this only happens if other players call you. So, I would rather recommend you make pot sized bets every turn and let the pot get bigger slowly. In case you get reraised by another strong hand you can still go all in. When it comes to online poker bluffing is much harder because people tend to play more optimally and will call you down with good hands. I would bluff more in offline games than online.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: TopTort777 on April 10, 2024, 09:24:08 AM
Is playing poker online better than offline?
Even though many people say online poker is better than offline, for me it's not all lies and bookies' ploys, I have experience and often bet on poker gambling in the past and I know how they put out their bad cards, it's misleading.

And I also often play physical/real poker and I enjoy winning perfectly, the opponent's cards are clear and what is dealt, we can see directly who is honest and who is cheating, For this reason, I have now come to the conclusion that I no longer want to visit online poker, I am comfortable and enthusiastic about playing offline.

What I'm telling you is not that I'm badmouthing poker gambling, but that's my experience, the point is that all of us here have our own experiences and ways of gambling, you are an expert at online poker that's your greatness, but I'm not lucky for online poker.

I think you will agree that winning offline in poker gives different feeling of joy then beating guys at the table online or finishing online tournament among rewarded gamblers. I admire offline gambling because of communication at the table. Sometimes they are more fun, more interesting and useful than the game itself. While gambling online, it is hard to keep conversation with other gamblers. Dont know why. Dont think it is due to language barrier. Perhaps they are focus on something IRL, or do something parallel playing online. Dont know. Maximum I could get few phrases, smiles or gl hf.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: arwin100 on April 10, 2024, 10:36:36 AM
Is playing poker online better than offline?
Even though many people say online poker is better than offline, for me it's not all lies and bookies' ploys, I have experience and often bet on poker gambling in the past and I know how they put out their bad cards, it's misleading.

And I also often play physical/real poker and I enjoy winning perfectly, the opponent's cards are clear and what is dealt, we can see directly who is honest and who is cheating, For this reason, I have now come to the conclusion that I no longer want to visit online poker, I am comfortable and enthusiastic about playing offline.

What I'm telling you is not that I'm badmouthing poker gambling, but that's my experience, the point is that all of us here have our own experiences and ways of gambling, you are an expert at online poker that's your greatness, but I'm not lucky for online poker.

I think you will agree that winning offline in poker gives different feeling of joy then beating guys at the table online or finishing online tournament among rewarded gamblers. I admire offline gambling because of communication at the table. Sometimes they are more fun, more interesting and useful than the game itself. While gambling online, it is hard to keep conversation with other gamblers. Dont know why. Dont think it is due to language barrier. Perhaps they are focus on something IRL, or do something parallel playing online. Dont know. Maximum I could get few phrases, smiles or gl hf.

Yeah its different since we can feel so excited seeing those people around us get applause get hype on the win we get. And feeling is really different since we can be brought up in any scene since most likely we can feel the adrenaline rush playing on offline.

Unlike playing online where we are at home alone playing and can get bored then if we are done nothing change. But if we win some simple joy we can earn since there's no one around us and if we share our wins to our online friends then the joy is limited since we can't connect with their emotions.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: Unbunplease on April 10, 2024, 11:16:31 AM
When you play poker offline, you experience a lot of additional emotions, and your ability to mask your emotions and your bluffing skills come into play. A lot also starts to depend on how well you recognize your opponent's emotions. Various psychological factors play an important role as well


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
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Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: panjul07 on April 10, 2024, 12:07:11 PM
blue Snow, you have said that when playing online nobody could read you and use that against you. But that isnt always like that. There are those who are good at reading body language aka social engineering. For example by the time you spend thinking should you click call when you get cards, they can build statistics when you bluff or have good cards.
Exactly, experienced online poker players can read your moves based on statistics or based on our playing pattern after playing for a while so basically it is not 100% true if no one can read our moves in online poker.
The only difference is that our opponent cant read our gestures and expression when we are playing online poker but our playing strategy can be read through pattern and statistics.
Which one is harder? Again, it depends on the player's skills on how to read opponent's move.
Those who are great in offline poker is not always be as great as when they are playing online poker and vice versa.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: shield132 on April 10, 2024, 12:55:01 PM
I often watch poker videos on YouTube where the player have very good acting to hiding his cards through his flat face. I have seen them being able to win with very bad cards on their hand with a good bluff, all in his chips. So I imagine, and often play poker online, I am very happy if I get a good card and I can't hide it well so just go all in all my chips. So what do you think?, how do other players know when I have good cards when playing online?, Is by check and don't call the bet they know we don't have a good card?, I'm not good at hiding it, sometime when I have double AS, I always all in at the beginning.
Real life poker might be a better experience than online poker because you play in real life with real people and that's different from sitting in front of your desktop. I have played online poker many times and I still play it in local online casino and from my experience, it's very hard to bluff online because players sit and go very frequently, you can't also risk all-in frequently. I only found online poker good and easy to bluff when you play on tournaments where fixed number of players get the same number of chips in the beginning. This way, no one will come and leave the table like they do on open tables. Such a tournament makes it easier to bluff. Spin poker is also another good option.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: wxa7115 on April 11, 2024, 01:19:11 AM
I often watch poker videos on YouTube where the player have very good acting to hiding his cards through his flat face. I have seen them being able to win with very bad cards on their hand with a good bluff, all in his chips. So I imagine, and often play poker online, I am very happy if I get a good card and I can't hide it well so just go all in all my chips. So what do you think?, how do other players know when I have good cards when playing online?, Is by check and don't call the bet they know we don't have a good card?, I'm not good at hiding it, sometime when I have double AS, I always all in at the beginning.
Real life poker might be a better experience than online poker because you play in real life with real people and that's different from sitting in front of your desktop. I have played online poker many times and I still play it in local online casino and from my experience, it's very hard to bluff online because players sit and go very frequently, you can't also risk all-in frequently. I only found online poker good and easy to bluff when you play on tournaments where fixed number of players get the same number of chips in the beginning. This way, no one will come and leave the table like they do on open tables. Such a tournament makes it easier to bluff. Spin poker is also another good option.
The tournament format was my favorite when I played poker online, when you are playing a cash game, those that have a lot of money will always try to use that advantage and extract blinds this way, and with players coming and going, this makes it difficult to figure them out.

But when playing on the tournament format everyone begins with the same amount of chips, so it is easier to figure out the style of your opponents and then make plans to counter them, which can give you a small edge if you make it far into the tournament.


Title: Re: Is playing poker online better than offline?
Post by: TopTort777 on April 11, 2024, 11:33:30 AM
blue Snow, you have said that when playing online nobody could read you and use that against you. But that isnt always like that. There are those who are good at reading body language aka social engineering. For example by the time you spend thinking should you click call when you get cards, they can build statistics when you bluff or have good cards.
Exactly, experienced online poker players can read your moves based on statistics or based on our playing pattern after playing for a while so basically it is not 100% true if no one can read our moves in online poker.
The only difference is that our opponent cant read our gestures and expression when we are playing online poker but our playing strategy can be read through pattern and statistics.
Which one is harder? Again, it depends on the player's skills on how to read opponent's move.
Those who are great in offline poker is not always be as great as when they are playing online poker and vice versa.


I like to catch poker players or simply people when they are out of their comfort zones :D I like to ask something or comment, and later see their reaction. That pause, those long seconds, when they think how to answer or reply more correctly. That very moment when person start to lie or to blush when he got caught on a lie. You cant get that when playing online. But that greatly helps when gambling offline and opponent get a tiny loss of his inner balance and starts to make mistakes. Not saying that I am an elite poker player, but such little victories against someone in verbal battles makes me feel joy :D