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Title: Can moderators edit a users post?
Post by: Asiska02 on April 02, 2024, 09:35:49 PM
https://i.ibb.co/jwkhSBY/5-AA9-AFAF-52-F5-4712-A886-0-A696-D48-C66-D.jpg

I found this strange and haven’t come across it before. This is not a self moderated topic, but the user that last edited the post isn’t the original poster of the comment, but just a moderator of that board. Are moderators given that privilege also?

Link to comment> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5490857.msg63876959#msg63876959


Title: Re: Can moderators edit a users post?
Post by: _BlackStar on April 02, 2024, 09:50:47 PM
Of course - moderators have the ability to edit other users' posts. If you are more observant - there are many posts edited by previous moderators, one of which is a post made consecutively within 24 hours by the same user [if someone reported it].

I often report consecutively posts made by the same user within 24 hours - then get a moderator come to edit them and make the multiple posts into one quote.


Title: Re: Can moderators edit a users post?
Post by: uchegod-21 on April 02, 2024, 09:59:35 PM
Of course - moderators have the ability to edit other users' posts. If you are more observant - there are many posts edited by previous moderators, one of which is a post made consecutively within 24 hours by the same user [if someone reported it].

I often report consecutively posts made by the same user within 24 hours - then get a moderator come to edit them and make the multiple posts into one quote.
When OP said edit, it appears that maybe the moderator edited the content of the post. It is nice to state it clearer that moderators can only merge posts but not change the contents of the posts.


Title: Re: Can moderators edit a users post?
Post by: acroman08 on April 02, 2024, 10:17:43 PM
the one who edited the post is Xal0lex, looking at his profile, he is a forum staff, I guess his position in the forum gives him the privilege to edit users post( like the one on the link you shared) which could be exclusive to his position and positions above his.

Probably not all moderators(I'm not really sure) can edit a user's post. it would be nice if a mod could clarify this.


Title: Re: Can moderators edit a users post?
Post by: Sandra_hakeem on April 02, 2024, 10:22:53 PM
When OP said edit, it appears that maybe the moderator edited the content of the post. It is nice to state it clearer that moderators can only merge posts but not change the contents of the posts.
what do you mean merge post? Merging, spinning, twisting ,rewriting is still part of post edition for ADMINS alone i guess... It's also made exclusively for some MODS but why would an admin bother about doing all of that? ... Aside from some minor corrections, they can also disable your profile -- in a way that you can't edit, spin, twist or involve any other strange context to cover-up/disclaim any already written post...[especially when it has to be done for future references]


Title: Re: Can moderators edit a users post?
Post by: PX-Z on April 02, 2024, 11:04:29 PM
I often report consecutively posts made by the same user within 24 hours - then get a moderator come to edit them and make the multiple posts into one quote.
But usually there's a note on that the posts was merge into one, something like that. But this one is different, I only saw such thing on the WO thread when the first OP was changed to other user (the one currently).


Title: Re: Can moderators edit a users post?
Post by: BlackBoss_ on April 03, 2024, 01:08:07 AM
Moderators can edit user posts, merge multiple posts in a row to one post.

Global moderators and admins can lock your threads and you can not unlock it. I am not sure moderator has a same power, lock a thread and the author can not unlock it like global moderators and admins.

Admins can change author of a thread like the Wall Observer thread. Global moderators might not have this power.

Wall Observer new ownership (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2004227.0)


Title: Re: Can moderators edit a users post?
Post by: hugeblack on April 03, 2024, 02:27:03 AM
mods edit are often red notify for merging multiple posts, but I remember that ex mining mod was adjusting the text and deleting some unnecessary information. Whoever makes edits appears above and you can search for the old post using ---> https://ninjastic.space/.


Title: Re: Can moderators edit a users post?
Post by: EFS on April 03, 2024, 04:30:58 AM
Yes we can, but we "don't modify a post such that it changes the meaning of the post."
Usually a mark is left after editing the post. This can be red or in a small font (Edit: reason..), but it's not mandatory. Moderators are not restricted in this regard.

About the post you showed as an example only Xal0lex, who made the edit, can answer though. I don't know what changes he made in the post.


Title: Re: Can moderators edit a users post?
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on April 03, 2024, 04:36:24 AM
Yes we can, but we "don't modify a post such that it changes the meaning of the post."
<snip>

Thanks for giving a definitive answer to a question in a thread that has somewhat of a misleading title when compared to what's actually meant by the question.  Reading the title alone, I immediately thought of mods editing for content and not merging threads (which I've long known they can do).

I see a lot of unproductive, nonconstructive replies here.  Now that EFS has answered the question at hand, perhaps OP could lock the thread?


Title: Re: Can moderators edit a users post?
Post by: BlackBoss_ on April 03, 2024, 05:19:46 AM
Yes we can, but we "don't modify a post such that it changes the meaning of the post."
Usually a mark is left after editing the post. This can be red or in a small font (Edit: reason..), but it's not mandatory. Moderators are not restricted in this regard.

About the post you showed as an example only Xal0lex, who made the edit, can answer though. I don't know what changes he made in the post.
If a moderator edits a post, a note like this can be used.

Bitcoin and me (Hal Finney) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155054.0)
[edited slightly]


Title: Re: Can moderators edit a users post?
Post by: Oshosondy on April 03, 2024, 07:22:03 AM
I see a lot of unproductive, nonconstructive replies here.  Now that EFS has answered the question at hand, perhaps OP could lock the thread?
That is what that should be done. OP supoose to lock this thread because his question has been answered and it is a staff that perfectly answered it. I do not think anyone will post on this thread again but some people will just want to post to have enough posts for the campaign they are posting for and start repeating what that has been posted before but which is annoying.


Title: Re: Can moderators edit a users post?
Post by: Xal0lex on April 03, 2024, 08:07:10 AM
I am not sure moderator has a same power, lock a thread and the author can not unlock it like global moderators and admins.

This is also available to regular moderators. Once a regular moderator blocks a user's topic, the user will not be able to unblock it himself.

About the post you showed as an example only Xal0lex, who made the edit, can answer though. I don't know what changes he made in the post.

In this particular case, I reduced the picture in the quote to make the post more readable. Quoting large pictures is not a rule violation, rather it is a matter of aesthetics, as the post looks bulky. I very rarely resort to editing posts, it's mostly about merging consecutive posts from the same user, overquoting, removal of the referral links, etc. In this case, the semantic content of the post itself is not affected.


Title: Re: Can moderators edit a users post?
Post by: Amphenomenon on April 03, 2024, 10:05:21 AM
Yes we can, but we "don't modify a post such that it changes the meaning of the post."
Usually a mark is left after editing the post. This can be red or in a small font (Edit: reason..), but it's not mandatory. Moderators are not restricted in this regard.

About the post you showed as an example only Xal0lex, who made the edit, can answer though. I don't know what changes he made in the post.
If a moderator edits a post, a note like this can be used.
I believe the Moderator may likely send this as a pm to the user, after all when post merged is done, the Moderator send a pm to the user

Quote
Bitcoin and me (Hal Finney) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155054.0)
[edited slightly]
I think this was different because It was shown that it was last edited by the Hal
https://www.talkimg.com/images/2024/04/03/VyCjW.jpeg
Where as, in the image shown by Op, it's seen that the post was last edited by Xal0lex.


Title: Re: Can moderators edit a users post?
Post by: un_rank on April 03, 2024, 10:21:55 AM
This is also available to regular moderators. Once a regular moderator blocks a user's topic, the user will not be able to unblock it himself.
If a mod moves a topic to a different board can the user move it back to where it was or to a different board?

I used to think not, but I read a discussion today or yesterday of a user that moved a thread twice after the mods moved it to a different board. That increases the workload on the mods.

- Jay -


Title: Re: Can moderators edit a users post?
Post by: SatoPrincess on April 03, 2024, 01:51:39 PM
I see a lot of unproductive, nonconstructive replies here.  Now that EFS has answered the question at hand, perhaps OP could lock the thread?
That is what that should be done. OP supoose to lock this thread because his question has been answered and it is a staff that perfectly answered it. I do not think anyone will post on this thread again but some people will just want to post to have enough posts for the campaign they are posting for and start repeating what that has been posted before but which is annoying.
This happens more times than I can count. Keeping a thread clean should not just be the responsibility of the OP. If it is obvious that the question has been answered in a satisfactory manner, members should not prolong the discussion whether the thread is locked or not. When that becomes a forum culture, we wouldn’t have so many mega threads.


Title: Re: Can moderators edit a users post?
Post by: Faisal2202 on April 03, 2024, 05:37:26 PM
I found this strange and haven’t come across it before. This is not a self moderated topic, but the user that last edited the post isn’t the original poster of the comment, but just a moderator of that board. Are moderators given that privilege also?

Link to comment> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5490857.msg63876959#msg63876959
Yeah moderators can edit the user's post but they don't edit it until the poster makes moderators to edit it. I mean, when the poster writes something that should not be written, then the moderators could edit the post to make it right. I don't think there is anything bad in it. As Xal0lex is a good moderator and he/she has done good work to make things according to the rules of the form. And I also had this question once and he answered him by himself. As he is the moderator of our community. Actually, at that time, there was an error in the link that the OP had provided in his post, and the Moderator tried to make it right. He changes not a single word from his post's meaning.

Even he clarified things for us, that moderators can modify the post, but if they are caught making changes that were not necessary or unnecessary then they will be removed from the moderator position.


Title: Re: Can moderators edit a users post?
Post by: stompix on April 03, 2024, 05:59:09 PM
Hihi, seems like you guys weren't posting in the mining section while Frodocooper was a mod there  ;D

Take a look at this topic for example:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5214026.0
and count the edits  ;D

He had a thing for esthetics, no need for empty lines, no huge images, no wrong quotes, no leftover code, and a ton more, I'm sure Phil was driving him insane with his writing style.

I very rarely resort to editing posts, it's mostly about merging consecutive posts from the same user, overquoting,

Do you actually remove pyramid quotes?
Those are the things that annoy me the most but never saw a mod other than frodo doing it!


Title: Re: Can moderators edit a users post?
Post by: Asiska02 on April 03, 2024, 08:11:23 PM
Yes we can, but we "don't modify a post such that it changes the meaning of the post."
Usually a mark is left after editing the post. This can be red or in a small font (Edit: reason..), but it's not mandatory. Moderators are not restricted in this regard.
In this particular case, I reduced the picture in the quote to make the post more readable. Quoting large pictures is not a rule violation, rather it is a matter of aesthetics, as the post looks bulky. I very rarely resort to editing posts, it's mostly about merging consecutive posts from the same user, overquoting, removal of the referral links, etc. In this case, the semantic content of the post itself is not affected.

Thank you both for answering and clarifying my question, I have actually heard about merging posts but wasn’t aware it would show on the post as ‘last edited by…’.
Seeing Xal0lex response that it was an image he edited made me learned something new I never knew since my stay in the forum.