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I'm sure not all traders will agree with me but some could possibly be on my side...

Here are the reasons why;
 1. It is quite stressful - old traders will soon give up due to mental health problems
 2. It is not enjoyable anymore - nobody will stay long in a job that they no longer find themselves comfortable with especially if you are not earning well.
      Most of the time we feel this during bear season.
 3. Trust issue due to Scam growth - traders never find it safe to use exchanges, even big exchanges.

What do you mean by trust issue? Are you referring to an exchange or a scam crypto project. I agree trading is stressful but there are many applications to help trader reduce that stress. Crypto exchanges work 24/7 unlike stock exchange that is why a crypto trader can make trade for certain duration as it is not possible for anyone to sit infront of the terminal 24 hours.

Trading is very risky and to make money from it will be very hard. It is true that it will take much energy from someone and looking at the market and losing has been linked to health issues. Not only that. Also staying watching the market every time has been linked to trading and which can cause health issue also.

You do not need to leave your coins on the exchanges each day after you finish trading. You can move the coins to a noncustodial wallet. If you are good in future trading and that means you do not use leverage, you can use leverage to protect some of your coins on noncustodial wallet.

I will only agree to the first one.

I know a lot of people will quite trading because of the mental stress that comes with it. Especially when you think too much of a thing, most traders can stay over days thinking of their past mistakes that would have changed their lives forgetting the next day, I find this one more convincing than the rest of them.

For sure, trading can not be a life time job, here in location I see a lot of traders who after making some kind of convincing profit they push it to another investment like buying bitcoin in bulk, or some go into gold market with intention to hold this golds for long term while majority government into real estate with the profits. I think that's the best think to do because at some point one may not be able to continue with the struggle of the market but from the investment in things like real estate they will not have to go into market anymore.

The arguments mentioned, OP, can be extrapolated to so many professions that the question is relative, I mean, what job is for life, none, except some that require conditions related to human habits or skills.

And, coincidentally, in my opinion, Trading falls into that nature of a situation, the expression "looking at the graph every so often" or stress always makes me laugh, among other things that they want to associate with having a gun to their head.

The point is, trading can be done all your life, even after death, I mean, if you leave any order open you could surely even leave post-mortem profits. :  )

 The phrase is everyone is invited to trade, but not everyone will be able to enjoy it for a lifetime.

This article (https://blog.hsb.co.id/forex/trader-sukses-di-dunia/) might inspire you (you can use google translate) that even though trading cannot be used as a long-term job, if you stick to it well, trading can give good results and can be a place to make consistent money.

even though i'm not a trader who really jumps in 100%, doing other activities can really relax my mind while trading, you can also find other activities to do when you're trading, for example planting plants, raising fish or even playing music, the point is don't continuously being in front of the screen for trading, relax your mind on other things.

I agree with you OP, because old age will come that will make the trader not to have the strength and insight to make the trade successful which is a sign that old age has come to perform it duty and it will definitely make you not to be part of cryptocurrency trading just to enjoy the remaining days of your life. Even the young traders that have the strength and insight to make trading in their lifetime Job are already facing the risk involved and it will make them not to fulfill their wish, because strength and insight will fail them and trading will no longer enjoyable to them. I know there are massive income in lifetime trading but is not advisable to those that are doing well in trading , because it can make you to lose all you have gain or achieve in the past, because there will be many scammers that will be after your income which mistake can allow you to fall victim.

Yeah trading is not a lifetime job since everything in there is unstable and we can't be so sure if we can possibly continue each winning trades we make since market volatility is unstable. That's why instead of taking it easy and became careless on each potential trades we make then better to be more careful on each decisions we trying to take so that we will not fall on FOMO's and FUDs that can affect each of good decision that we aiming to proceed.

The 3 reasons you give is good so people should try to digest that so they could able to learn some information that helpful for them to consider. There's a lot more helpful information and people just need to take effort to search or learn to improve more their skills and understand the way how to handle the each market condition.

Everybody I become more convinced that crypto trading should not be fully relied on as a sole source of income, because of the elements of gambling in it, because despite all your experience, loses are inevitable. I always tell young people who are jobless that hears hypes about how crypto trading can make you very rich, I tell them that it's true, but that it's hard and risky, also not a job for jobless people. I agree that trading shouldn't be a lifetime job, because there are chances that you can end up with nothing after all the years of money and brain drain, it's better to be a trader with other sources of income and let it be an alternative source.

speaking the aspect of health aside from mental problem it could pose physical problem as well, the straining stress might affect the way our body works, like exposing us to the risk of any disease caused by overwhelming stress one of them is heart disease, really its great if we can stop trading because we have enough money for retirement, but the process is what gonna be mentally and physically cost us in the long run.

indeed i do agree trading shouldn't be a life time job, tis at best should be enough just for side hustle for anyone that are working full time maybe its fulltime job for someone that just committed in trading but for me i just can't really sacrifice health just for the sake of additional money.

as always the key is just to use the money that we can afford to lose so that whatever scenario gonna play out we are not gonna be in massive stress.
as for the 2nd point it does depend on how much profit someone is generating if they just keep losing eventually they will lose interest.

if the traders weren't comfortable with what was being done, they would have stopped. but if they feel comfortable with the trade they are making, whether it is profitable or not, of course they will continue.
there are traders who enjoy their trading. and that makes them continue to trade every day even though it is not a job. Day traders also don't spend all day in front of a screen trading. Those who are professionals can definitely divide their time between trading and also their real work.

Trading not been comfortable is definitely for those traders that have set a larger target to meet by themselves. We have seen traders who trade almost all kind of pairs everyday and treat it as job and with this they are eager to just make it and this drives them to been uncomfortable as they tend to want to win every single trades. Also we have traders who enjoy there crafts they do a set up and allow the trades to run and most of the time they even check the market only in the early morning hours or late nights. Just like the day traders regularly check there are also swing traders who can leave a trade to run for almost a week.


Only naive traders leave their large funds on the exchange. Many traders usually use non custodial wallet to store their Funds. They usually do not just withdraw daily but sometimes weekly or monthly to their wallets and leave just an amount enough to trade on the exchange.

That's right, it's as simple as that, if traders have started to feel uncomfortable with their trading activities for some reason such as not being able to withstand all the pressure and tension then they will also take action to draw the line or stop when they feel that. Besides, on the other hand, there is absolutely no compulsion for anyone to continue to be involved in their trading activities, simply put if you are able and you have the capital to trade along with having the ability to accept the consequences of possible risks then there is no problem if you want to be involved but if otherwise then there is nothing wrong with stopping immediately.

On the other hand I don't think anyone comes here just for entertainment or fun, if that's the goal then there's nothing wrong with gambling. This is a trade where all traders come with the aim of making a profit regardless of whether they come with the following intentions and goals with the right or wrong understanding, and for me trading is not a job that should be prioritized, because this is nothing more than a profession to supplement income in addition to the main job.

Aren't mental problems more vulnerable to new traders?
Since even moderately professional old traders will master their mental health even if there are some losses resulting from misanalysis or sudden changes in trends,
they even always have other options to overcome such unfavorable circumstances.

When the job as a trader is no longer fun, of course this effect is due to the absence of consistent profits, or they always fail or lose when trading. 
Not about fun, but more about volatile profits and more losses that make one want to quit trading.

Nothing is safe as long as you trade on a centralized Exchange, therefore only use money that you can afford to lose, The main asset remains in your main wallet.
No one guarantees 100% security because every system will have loopholes.

Trading is not a lifelong job, but it will be suitable as a side job if you still have a main job.

But for those who are already professionals, they have dedicated their lives to trading,
they get consistent profits and make various investments to support the trade.

On crypto trading? Absolutely since crypto market is highly volatile due to lack of regulation. It’s very hard to have a consistent profit here especially if you are trading altcoins that has a high risk of turning a scam that will delete all your profit in one wrong trade.

Investing is on Bitcoin is the only thing that can be considered as good for lifetime here in crypto but the rest of the tokens has the tendency to become valueless with one shit move of its creator. The absence of Satoshi on Bitcoin picture is a blessings since it removes the potential failure due to creator which all the dead project now common reason.

I still don't know why you listed this above but I must call your attention that whatever thing you are doing as a skill, job or work you need a retirement because people do not entirely spend their lives working all the time. There is time a man will retire in their offices and I believe such is trading, there is when a time would reach you need to stop trading or limits trading because of your health and visualization of watching white screen one could decides to stops entirely because at some point in time when you would began to lose interest in most things including what you like doing most because of either age restriction and can't seat for a longer time to trade.

What is your basis for the following statements that you gave? It seems like the people that you have talked about there have problems and I think it's not connected with the situation in which "trading" is the contest.

It's going to be stressful if you don't control your emotions. Without proper training, it will lead to losses that could cause stress as well.

Even seasoned traders may find trading difficult at times, and the temptation to lose money is strong. If you don't know how to control your greed, you could lose all of your money. If you visit Twitter, you'll notice many comments from users who have lost money in trading and advice on how to avoid it. The majority of them merely take a chance on everything after consulting, not even using stop loss. Trading is risky, and you may see why if you don't follow the right recommendations.

Checking the market always is stressful but if you getting money from it you won't have a choice than to always check the market to keep track of what is happening. That is how serious people behave. Times without number they have warned that you should not leave you coin in an exchange.  Qnd sometimes I don't pity people because they always warn them against keeping money in an exchange.

You are actually right about number 1 and 2 above. Trading is not as easy as non-traders see it. Traders invest their time, money and even their whole being in their job to make it a success. This can be draining and it is very normal for many traders to lose interest in trading but only keep up for the sake of the money they earn from it. I know a few older traders who are no longer into full time trading but still earn from trading by teaching others who wish to be traders the skills and I believe a lot of factors must have triggered their decision to quit full time trading. Successful traders deserve all the flowers because they have put in lots of energy to get to that level.

If it comes to crpto daily traders you might be right about the first, the stress is the reason I gave up trading, for the second it's a it wrong to put everyone in one bowl, there are people who enjoy the adrenaline there are some which are scared , there are some that like to work only with manual things, there are some that only like virtual,as for the 3rd , easy fixable, there are still exchanges that have been around for years and not scammed their users. But if we cut the crypto part from it, I won't agree with, trading is a job, fully recognized, fully regulated job.


Older traders make it to an old age on the job because they have a higher level of tolerance for stress, but it's not unlimited, and the worse it gets the worse the breakdown.
I for example after managing to cling for years, I just woke up, opened the laptop and I said to myself I can't do it anymore, I simply can't, my brain would not allow me to even dare on thinking on let alone concentrate on what's happening!

I am not a big time trader but I don’t believe in the title of your post and the facts you have to back up your claims about trading. You can view trading as a lifetime job but that depends on how serious you are at it and how you want it to play an important role in shaping your life. Trading can be taken at anytime, whether bullish or bearish days depending on what you’ve analyzed on the market and the direction you’ve predicted to be on in order to get your profit from it. I have seen a lot of successful traders that live their life or trading and it’s paying them despite the risks involved in it. If you find a pathway to success through something, you should ride on that path as your conviction is on it already to make you feel and live a better life.

Those who think that trading is an easy task this is completely mistaken. Because trading is never an easy way to earn money. A trader needs to acquire sufficient knowledge for trading. Every trade is risky and there is a possibility of losing big money. So a trader is always under human pressure but it does not mean that he cannot trade. Trading is difficult for those who can't take risks. If one does trading along with another job then he can be relatively at ease. When a successful trader learns about trading, he will discuss various positive aspects of trading, but if a trader is not successful in trading, then he will get an idea about the negative aspects.

Many traders suffer from mental health problems due to the volatile market and some even give up because they have lost a lot of money, especially in futures trading, many people experience depression due to their failures in trading.

Earnings are not good then obviously they will not be comfortable and even abandon their trading activities because they lose a lot, a bear market where many people fail including those who are professionals, but there are also traders who are able to survive for a long time.

The exchange is enough only to carry out trading activities, if you have traded and kept profits on the exchange then it is the same as keeping the risk in it, it is too naive to believe in a large exchange even though it thinks it will never scam.

The points you have mentioned only apply to forced traders which means people who are trading when they don't have an interest in it but are doing it because they have seen others getting profit from it. You can't keep doing something that you don't like doing even if you are earning money from it, so trading can't be a full-time job or a life-time job for someone who is forcing themselves to do it.

If a person likes trading in general and they have always had an interest about financial markets be it stocks, cryptocurrency, or any other market, they wouldn't feel these things and they can continue doing it for as long as they want. You don't find it stressful if you enjoy doing it and have enough understanding about how you should do it.

These days it is difficult to talk about any kind of lifelong job. The world is changing very quickly, and now a person does not associate himself with a profession. He understands that his personality goes beyond mere function. This is why people change jobs, because at different times in their lives they feel different needs and manifestations of themselves. It's the same with trading. This job is not forever, because over time your priorities may simply change.

1. It is stressful only to those who are not putting in the work. That is why only successful traders will last because they adapt to the changes in the market. They study markets and master themselves to hone the discipline how to properly approach the market. They didn't see the market as stress but a gold mine of opportunities.
2. It is definitely boring. It should be. But who cares how boring it is if you can make $1000 a week. If you want to earn during bear season, just learn and study how to short positions. You are just limiting yourself OP.
3. That's is why it is advisable not to put all your money but only your active tradeable asset on exchange and accept the risk.

There's is so much uncertainty in market, that is why it is most rewarding when you are doing the right thing.

It's a risky job so you can't manage it for the rest of your life even if you want to and you have to bear such huge losses. I want to trade in crypto until i have accumulated enough money to support my life. But there are many people who prefer to be in crypto market than real life profession. This world is changing very fast and now a person does not attach himself to a profession because one has to save energy in real life profession. But people trade according to the demand of chad so it can be crypto or real based thought.

I also don't worry about some of the bad things that will happen to old traders,
because they are also human beings who have emotional instability.

But they are more aware of the level of risk that will occur, and of course they will get used to it.
Unless the market really cannot be predicted at all and false trends change.

If you can't hold on any longer, of course, you have to put a limit on where you have to sell.
You don't have to hold for a long period of time or your whole life, it's about profits and if you've already achieved those profits then sell and take those profits.

Trading may only be good as a side hustle but it will never be reliable enough as a main source of income. Simply because despite of your trading expertise because of your huge experience in trading, the market remains unpredictable in the end which means you still have no full control of your trading outcome. Although well experienced traders can maximize their profits in trading, but the fact that the market is still unpredictable and uncertain in the end, then these traders will still be prone to losses. That only proves that no matter how good and professional we are in trading, still the market can’t be beaten.

1. No doubt that trading is stressful, if you happen to be a daytrader then for sure you're going to absorb all the toxicity in the market and you have the choice of whether you should absorb it wholly or just let it pass.
2. I disagree, it might be you but I've known traders for more than 5 years and that's their full time job and as long as you're doing good and you are making money, it's the best way to enjoy an activity and at the same time a very rewarding thing to do.
3. I doubt it that if you've been doing this for long you'd stick to a scam exchange or even projects.

Based on the instant viewing of the 21st century, not everyone prefers working in a physical occupation. That is why many will jump into trading, and knowing the risk in trading and the load of stress in it is what will make us believe that trading cannot be a life-time job because it deals with very high risks. You need to go through adequate research, which, if not the quantity of time and loss that you will do, will be very painful, but you can still make it at once, which simply means you get a huge profit that will sustain you for a long time. So even without attaching trading to another profession or job, you will still get rich because, after you have gotten a huge profit, you can stop trading in order to join other businesses because I don't think trading is meant for a long time.

Could you please tell us which job is a lifetime job? Military? Accountant? Doctor?  ::)

Is there anything that is not stressful in life?

What would you tell those chaps who drain sewage for a living?
It's simply because you are doing something you don't love. That's why it seems boring. Not so many jobs are interesting anyway.

Trust issues are everywhere. If you don't want to be scammed. Then be cautious.

I don’t have hesitations that trading can actually make a great living. If you are a professional trader, you can always navigate your trades outcome and as much as possible, turn them all into profits. However, there are still high risks in trading that are sometimes unmanageable for us. This is why I don’t only focus on trading alone but I really need to get a real job that will sustain my family’s needs as it certainly give us a fixed income regardless of the market situation. Now, having them both have definitely made my source of income better and more consistent and reliable.

There will be always a risk. We still can't say it is official that we can do it for a living. Because not all trading for a living is not profitable some lead to bankruptcy.

Since I know someone personally who really does trading for a living, I can say that it is possible to do it as a lifetime job especially if you are really careful handling your profits or losses.

Trading is risky and earning, profit from trading is very unsustainable. It is very volatile and unpredictable for traders with bad finance management and in particular bad trading capital management.

If a trader has wrong thinking that he can earn main income from trading, rely on it as main income source, and use all capital for trading, he will face with hardest time of market with pressure of avoiding loss, stay outside the market and will chase for chances to get profit, income in dangerous time of market.

This bad capital and trading management will easily to cause to bad trading decisions and lead to losses.

Trust issues comes from within. They are a product of what we see around us. It's true that there are lots of scam schemes in crypto and as a trader, the one that we are prone of is the exchanges because we are using them at all times. It is only easy to pick up a trusted crypto. Even exchanges, we will also pick the trusted one but we don't know their true motive if ever they have. Anytime, there is a possibility that they can end up like other scam exchanges or those who collapse due to misuse of company's funds. Some can also have legal issues with the regulators.

That's an interesting info but if so, then why a crypto trader can only spend less or certain duration? I still believe that many traders are trading longer because for them this is like a full-time job already. Humans can survive 24 hours without sleep or even longer than that. They can too without food or anything but that is already a different case. In trading, there are bots which they can use to still have a life outside.

If you are for trading, you definitely are for trading and there are no complaints at all. Yes, the hardship is there but that's part of the how fun trading and making money is.

Why is it that people keep on talking about bear season where in fact, we're in the bull run? I know that I've got the context about it that it gets boring during that season.

But as you trade, you don't choose any season and if you're certified trader and you're full time on it. You can justify the profession that you've chosen.

Anyway, as a free person. You can enter and get out of trading anytime you want.

I don't know why all your points were sentimentally selected and made. Is there any type of job that isn't stressful? Even as pleasurable as we think having sex is, I bet you that prostitudes don't think it's.

Your second point, is there anyone who stays at a job forever? Nope, none. There's always a time for everyone to call it quits. However, I don't think that happens to profitable traders except there are health challenges. My emphasis there is in bold. Nobody stops making money just like that except something hits their health. Health is wealth.

If you talk about trust issue, it's everywhere. It's not something left to online business alone. I use exchanges, why not? I also use P2P on other platforms that aren't exchanges. You just have to be careful doing it do as not to get scammed by a group masquerading as admins and escrows.

Finally, nothing beats trading. No job gets easier and enjoyable than it. The only difficult part is to get the skill set and that's the part most people don't like. I love trading and can't exchange it for anything.

First off, trading isn't universally stressful; it tends to stress those who trade based on emotions and ignore trading guidelines like disciplined systems, risk management, and thorough analysis.

Expressing agreement or doubt can be tricky when discussing this topic because both mathematics and history can be challenging subjects. However, some people find comfort in tackling tough topics.

As for exchanges, using them as an excuse isn't valid anymore, especially with the changing landscape of the trading world. In the crypto market, for example, DEX trading is an option. Although it may not have been very efficient a few months ago, there are now L2 modular and highly optimized chains for on-chain transactions. These chains enable real-time transaction processing, making trading more efficient at a fraction of the cost compared to traditional blockchains like ETH.

Absolutely, breaking into the industry even with security and good reviews incredibly hard due to the amount of Scams out there. Especially after being burned.

Maybe for others, but I know some people who are pretty successful in trading and even if they might not do it in full time and part time only, they earn a good profit.
1. Not all old traders are getting stressed, some of them have good experience and get used with the market and how it works.
2. No one is enjoying if they are only losing, correction. There are traders who are still earning during bear season or any kinds of market, they earn even in bearish season.
3. Why would you buy new coins where you can trade big volume coins like Bitcoin, Ethereum or coins in the top 10.

But anyways, different people have different perspective but you are right there are some people that is not really for trading.

Similar question puzzle in my heart because this matter if trading is individualistic mostly once it involves the time spend in the trading as everyone has it target in the trade , it's stressful no doubt but a good trader still control the stress Base on what the individual want from the market.

Trust issue due to scam got me confused, reason being that as trader one should have it as back if mind as a primary thing that scammers don't sleep and don't disengage on the defrauding all time by profiling solution to mitigate any sort arising from any source, beside this may not just come so easily unless you give room for such by not keep your credentials appropriately save as it ought to be.

I believe too well that most victim of scam have one it two things they have missed in terms of security for themselves which leads to such , because only the ignorant mostly fall quick prey, a good trader should be able to receive sign of scam through knowledge on how they operate and tackle it before it occurred.

Because they are in an uncertain position, traders will not unilaterally make trading activities a lifelong job. In this position I will side with your thoughts.
Trading requires a lot of focus in many sectors not only the time spent but also the risk of losing money.
The trader's ability must be above average, at least aware of the types of fraud if he chooses the wrong coin to be traded.

If their situation continues with no success, then trading is not a job that will be done forever, even though some traders only use trading as an attempt to earn additional income outside of their main job.
Instead of trading, buy coins on an exchange and store them in a wallet.

Indeed, we all have different insights about trading and of course, different experience. We may find it profitable this time as we are too updated and have enough time to check the market but someday, it can be changed for some reasons that have not yet come. If we stop trading, it is for sure for goodness.

This is my personal experience and I have also asked several traders in my place and they say they are quitting soon due to the stress and have no time anymore. Honestly, it is exciting when you are just new to trading and very interested in but when the situation went difficult, you may think about quitting.

Well, maybe I am and a lot of people have this kind of condition. Maybe I am wrong about my statement but I am certain that nothing in here is forever.
As we grow old, our priorities change as well especially when it comes to health issues.

If old traders can manage their trading time well, they will not experience mental health problems. They can divide their time well between trading and other activities so that everything runs smoothly. Crypto trading can be done anytime because the most important thing is that we analyze it first before starting to trade.

If a person cannot learn more about trading, it will not take long for him to feel discomfort in trading. He will quickly give up on analyzing the market because he doesn't know how to start analyzing the market. Everything will return to each trader on how they can continue improving their trading abilities.

Professional traders really know what they have to do in trading. They will try to avoid fraud that has happened to other traders. That's why we have to keep learning to improve our trading skills.

Yes and I think in common sense trading is not an activity or is not recommended to be used as a lifelong job activity which means you depend for all your living needs on the results of trading, one of the reasons is because we cannot ignore the aspect of possible risks that are not can never be tolerated in trading, plus on the other hand in trading there is absolutely no strategy that is 100% accurate to be able to generate profits, maybe the highest is only 85% which means the rest is the possibility of losses, and this is why most people will not make trading a lifelong job because it is too risky.

On the other hand, as you said, as traders we are obliged to learn many things which can take a lot of time which is very draining in the learning stage, not only sacrificing time but we also have the possibility of losing an amount of money which could be quite large, so of course The reason is because trading is too risky to be used as a job that provides main income to meet life's needs, and as you said, this profession can only be used as additional income.

That's for sure, crypto trading is enthusiastic when our trading gets good results and big profits, when it's unlucky, that's when boredom, frustration and negative things arise that make our trading hampered and boring.

If you say trade like in the title, I have to admit it, nothing is eternal in this world, do trade while you can, as long as you have a good trading spirit, trade to make a lot of profit, after getting all that you can think about better things to do, I mean other methods in the crypto world.

Trading is not a lifelong job, it seems a bit more complicated to answer in one word. Because it is addictive for experienced traders. Those who have been trading day after day and corrected their past mistakes to become more experienced and skilled traders will have a slightly higher success rate at the end of the day And I think for those who are successful traders it becomes like an addiction. But at a certain point most people shift their focus to trading and lean more towards investing.  Admittedly, trading is not a lifetime job, it's only when you have the skills, money, and risk-taking ability that you turn to trading. Otherwise as your age increases and you gradually look for a stability and that leads to investment at the end of the day.

Professional traders are characterized by one thing in particular: They are good at entertaining people.

If you follow professional traders like Tone Vays or Brian Beamish, what they have in common is that they pass on their knowledge in the form of courses and thus probably earn x times what they could ever have earned through trading.

One thing must not be forgotten: even professional traders are wrong in around 48-49% of their trades and lose money. The 1-2% difference in successful trades is where they make their money.

OP, stocks may seem dull in trading, the same can't be said for crypto. When you mention exchange scams, could you provide more details? Lately, I've been sharing tips on identifying reliable CEXs to use and what you check to steer clear of those that are not reliable. It's crucial to check if they consistently update their Proof of Reserves (POR) at least monthly, like how Bitget and Binance does. Additionally, consider factors like the presence of cold wallets and their overall improvement over the years. Staying informed about the CEX you use is essential.

Seriously trading is not really a easy activity, it’s kind of stressful, and it requires critical thinking, which is having negative effects on our mental health, some old traders might not give up on trading completely, but they might not be trading often, they won’t really be desperate to make money from trading, most of them will be trading whenever they feel like.

Do you think traders are not earning well? Then maybe the person doesn’t know much about trading yet. I disagree with you that traders are not earning much from trading, I know their is a great risk in trading, and you are definitely going to lose money, but if you really know how to trade, then you will also make profit.

As long as you are not leaving coin on exchange for a long period of time, then you shouldn’t have problem with exchange. Leave any amount you will be trading with their, and whenever you are going on a break, then withdraw all your money from the exchange, if things goes wrong with the exchange, then your money is not on the exchange.

1. If you are someone whose really that emotional then not only trading will really be giving out that kind of stress, anything that involves losing money does.

2. Dont do things that it is really that out of your passion or simply you are really just that doing this because you are aiming on making yourself that rich or making it as a last resort for you to
make money. There are things in life on which it would really be needing for you to dedicate sufficient time and effort.

3. Stick with known and reputable exchangers but the one thing golden rule that you should put up into your mind. "Never leave your coins on centralized platforms"
   "Not your keys, Not your coins". This is always the main line or rule that you do put up into your memory all the time.

You are right that most oh all trader here will disagree with you on those point you mention here.
Can you give me an example which work has not any stress ? I think that all work will be stressful for an unskilled person, but it will not be stressful for a skilled person. And after a certain age all people retire from their work.
I think the enjoyment varies from person to person. And not all people in the world like programming, some like construction work, and some maybe trading, I want to say if you don't like trading then you shouldn't do trading. And I also think that nobody should force you to trade.
This can be a fact for short-term traders, because most people have this fear since the crash of a big exchange like FTX. But I don't think it's a concern for long-term traders who use decentralized wallets.

On the time that you would really be that doing trading for a while and able to survive those ups and downs in the market then it would really be that impossible that you cant really be able to notice out something
on which it would really be just that pertaining about market movements. It might be that stressful at first but on the time that you are getting used to it then you wont really be finding it to be stressful.
It is really just that part of trading on where it would really be able to have that mixed of emotions on which you would really be ending up on having those kind of unnecessary actions or decisions to be made on.
Trading and making it as a lifetime job? You would really be needing up the skills for you to be able to sustain yourself into this unpredictable space.

One of the things that you would really be needing up to consider is that this market is moving on a random way, technical and fundamentals doesnt work anytime or simply 100%.
You would really be that needing to make out adjustments basing up into your own approach and analysis.

Some of your reasons are very reasonable, but I would choose to stop trading when I have accumulated enough profits. Trading does take more energy, time and skills, but if I wanted to stop then I would choose the investment route instead of forgetting about it.

Investment will clearly make experienced traders feel comfortable without dealing too much in front of the monitor. They can buy on a bearish cycle and hold for the long term while enjoying the previous profits they made. In essence, investing tends to be better for traders who are bored of carrying out their activities in front of the monitor.

I even thought, what kind of job is an all-life-time job? Because, there will definitely be a certain period when someone stops their job, then just enjoys life in their old age. Or, for example, if you still have to work, then the work will be adjusted to your age, in this case it depends on your ability and your physical condition and mind which are already old, both online and offline, this law applies. So, it's not just about trading.

However, I personally agree and think the same way. That trading is complex and full of pressure because the risks are high. Therefore, if you trade alone, as time goes by, the level of effectiveness and continuity in trading will also decrease. Even if you use the help of a premium AI bot, it will definitely continue to decline as you get older. Funds and era where a trader will retire from his own trading (not trading with his own hands). But all he has to do is enjoy the results of his hard work from the trading he has done previously. So one of his hopes is to continue to have a lot of retirement funds so he can enjoy his old age more peacefully without having to think about trading again.

That's why it takes not just knowledge and skill in trading in order to survive on it and in order to fo it for a long time, you need a lot of paatience and deidication in order to earn efficiently and in order to endure the emotional, mental fatigue in trading, but if you are going to accumulate a lot of experience and be more wiser in trading then you know an easy way in order to trade efficiently even not looking at your trade 24/7 or trading every day, many experienced traders are appreciating the concept of long term trade meaning they will open a trade that is based on their analysis and will set the trade in long term in order to maximize the potential profit and the traders doesn't need to keep on checking its trade he can just wait for the desired TP or take profit.

While trading can be a great source for huge profits, but we all know that will also require a lot of risks and efforts so that you will come up with successful trades. If you don’t have full focus and attention to your trades, you will end up with undesirable losses, which will eventually make you feel frustrated if it happens consistently. This is the reason why it’s certainly hard and risky to come up with a successful trade, unless if you are not a professional trader, you will never be profitable in this kind of career. And trading as a lifelong job can be very stressful, that’s why only few have managed to be lifelong traders, while others only do it as a side hustle.

Reality is, if you’re a well experienced trader and gets maximum profits everytime, then I should say you must be destined in trading for long. But let’s admit it, not all traders are good enough, majority are still trying hard in trading and still end up with inevitable losses. With this kind of traders, it’s obvious that they should not treat trading as a lifetime job, otherwise they will only regret why they push to risk their funds in trading when they can buy and hold with less risk and less stress, and they can still be able to get the same amount of profits if they are good hodlers.

No trader can always make a profit. They must have made mistakes, which requires them to keep learning. That difference makes them professional traders that other traders cannot do.

Professional traders do provide courses to people who want to learn. But these people don't need to learn trading from these traders because they can find lessons about trading on the internet. In addition, enrolling in the course requires a lot of money, so they should use the money to practice the skills they have learned.

By learning from other trading sources, they can improve their trading abilities. They also have to practice the lessons they learn because that's where they can improve their trading skills.

That is why if someone wants to make trading their life's work, they must continuously study trading. It's difficult because the market will continue to change, making them never stop learning. But the results will be worth it because they can follow trading movements well.

They can make profits even though the market situation is not good because they can still analyze coins that move up and down. Even though the market moves randomly, they can still follow it because they can analyze it. They can also manage the stress of trading because they have learned stress management well.

It's not easy to become a professional trader, but that doesn't stop them from learning. Especially if they make trading their job, they know the risks, can accept them and divide their time well.

It can be, I know a lot of people who just trades and does nothing else, I think that is quite important. I get that it may feel like it is not a big deal, but that is just the way it is if you ask me.

I believe that most people are looking at trading as something that has ups and downs and think that it can't be a sustained thing, but there are so many professional traders who make a lot of money from just a small amount of trading. I know people who trade just half an hour everyday, make enough money for the day, and stop. They do this everyday, and even not work during weekends as well (even though crypto trading is 7/24) and that is why I think it's quite possible for a lifetime job. Doesn't mean it's doable for everyone, but it's not impossible anyhow.

Basically, I agree that trading is not a lifetime job, because trading has a lot of risks. I also suggest for people who want to try to focus on trading to have other income, whether from work or business. However, when you are successful in trading, don't forget to develop the business you have, or build a business to earn other income. I think that trading is not suitable as a job for life, but it can be an income that can encourage us to achieve financial freedom by using profits from trading to support the businesses we have which is suitable as a job for life

Only around 40% can make a profit from trading and in my opinion this is achieved by professional traders where they can get losses of more than 50% even though they only show the profit side to the public through posts on social media.
From experience, professional traders don't always make a profit, so if we think about it, making trading a lifelong job is not a good decision even though I have mentioned that it takes a lot of time and focus to learn things that can make a profit.

As you get older, your mind also declines. So here we can conclude that trades work which has a big risk rather than the desired profit.
A good decision in the crypto space is simply investing in Bitcoin. Another small part is on coins like Ethereum and other potential coins that follow Bitcoin.

to be trading for entire life, definitely can be done, the question is, are we really have the will to trade until our entire life? considering that trading is exhausting activity where having mental stability is matter a lot.
many people don't like trading as a job for the lifetime because its just not really an activity that they are looking up to.
they just want some good easy to do job when they are already old, with trading, even if we are making money and im talking about good money, there's still a big chance that within few times forward we might lose a money due to volatility, definitely can't do that when we are old enough.

Points well taken but it possible to shape trading in a way that it stays for the long run.

By keeping yourself limited to bitcoin and only long term holding you are essentially taking it slow and calm but making profits as well. So that negates the first two points. Also an exchange can turn scam but most of the big ones are fine for some time, it would be bad luck if they turn scam or exit.

Most people dont get trading, so I dont expect most of them to run it for long either.

Trading is not a main job that can always provide income, the possibility of risks that cannot be fully tolerated is always a problem that makes people reconsider their intention to make it a main job, and this is why people usually prefer to make trading a side profession to increase their income. And I think this is actually everyone's choice, you have said the right thing that trading is not always easy to do, because it is very draining on our minds and also mentally when we analyze a market.

It is true that when a person has entered old age then it is certain that they will experience a decline in thinking and remembering things so of course it is likely that trading will be increasingly difficult to do because the situation is not possible and most likely we will probably experience more losses than profits regardless of those of you who are experienced in the world of trading when you enter old age.

You caption is very neat but the content is somehow contradicting the topic. For self-employed trading is not even a job but it is a side hustling but whereby you hired by someone to trade for him or her then it becomes a job and even at that it will depend on the time the person needs your services. Is it long term or short term? Yes trading is stressful for newbies who have not really understood the system then the second set are the people with large trading amount because they are always on the system to monitor their trading so that is true. Trading is always enjoyable because if you make profit even small amount it is okay and if you are not losing your capital bthennir is okay.

And for the trust and Scam, that is why when you are trading use legit trading apps to trade and don't keep your funds in your trading wallet and only the amount you are trading with because most of the trading sites are own by scammers. So they can close the app or the site at anytime.

First your points is right about most stressful with trading if floating position or must be holder after price dropping, but if get consistency earn much profitable actually trading will be most enjoying and potential become lifetime job. Not get pressure yet we are boss in trading and easily controlling the time when have to trade or get holiday.
Seems your points about trust issues with exchange indirectly you little agree for making much profitable with trading, learned with FTX scam,
I think have many exchange with good trusted issues exactly every local exchange have get government regulation. For global exchange Binance still lead on the top leader have long time operation and no doubt trust more with that exchange.

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I was wondering: what job is not stressful? the CEO of a company earns a lot of money because he works a lot, the president of big companies earn a lot of money because they work a lot, employees in many companies receive little pay and yet they work a lot, but they don't quit because they know it's very difficult to get another job, bank employees earn fair wages but they work a lot, their job is also very stressful, but they are working until they are old, because they know that although their job is very stressful, it is still very difficult for them to get another job. So trading is not stressful, people shouldn't complain when they have the opportunity to make money, because at least they are making money, there are people who don't have the opportunity to make money and are living on the streets


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and since when do people get jobs they like? Nowadays, even in first world countries, there is a huge lack of jobs that forces many people to put their interests aside and work wherever they are accepted and stay in jobs they don't like until they get old, because it's not easy to get a job. If a person can make profits from trading, then it doesn't make any sense for that person to give up trading, even if they keep trading until they get old, because at least that person has the opportunity to make money, as I said: there are many people who don't they have something to eat because they don't make money, they don't have a job


Even in real life there are thieves and scammers and in this market, it is evolving, we are not in the 2020s, every year good exchanges are having owners who are not anonymous and are complying with the regulations made by governments, which allows for the security of users. people's funds and shows more seriousness on the part of exchanges. so people just need to choose trustworthy exchanges

The wild west times from the times of the mt. gox collapse are certainly over, yes. But unfortunately the points you mentioned have little to do with whether customers can be cheated out of their deposits ("hacks", ...) or not, as the FTX scandal has shown very clearly. FTX was also very well connected politically, the owner was known and the exchange was regulated in various countries. However, this did not protect customers from a major loss.

I would rather focus on whether an exchange allows itself to be audited regularly. Bitpanda, for example, does this, whereby external companies also guarantee that customers' deposits are actually available and "safe".

True, it is always recommended to have a main job when you are involved in trading, which when you have a main job and do not make trading your main income then you will not have problems in terms of making ends meet that cannot be tolerated because you have a definite income from the main job. And as we know that trading has risks where the worst thing and what is feared is that maybe you will experience problems in terms of making ends meet when making trading as the main income, the reason is because as I said above that basic needs can never be tolerated while trading will not always be able to give you profits because of the possible risks that can occur at any time.

The right approach and the right mindset is to make trading a part-time job that is useful to supplement your income from the main job, and even if for example you manage to become a fairly professional trader by always being able to make a profit or when you are already in a situation where your profits are greater than losses then I think at that time you can think of a new plan, you can quit your main job but on the other hand you also have to build another place that can provide you with income such as maybe a business or other things that can provide a fairly certain profit.

You're absolutely right. Maintaining a main job while trading on the side is a practical approach.

Keeping your main job ensures a steady income, which safeguards your ability to meet basic needs without the pressure of needing constant wins from trading. It's a wise strategy to treat trading as a supplementary income source until, perhaps, your trading profits are consistently outpacing your losses.

It would really be the most practical approach rather than on going full time. It would really be just that only viable if  you've seen that you are already a profitable trader on which you would really be making up some decisions on going full time but since this is kind of skill that cant really be easily obtained then it would really be that hard for you to achieve such condition and not all becomes a successful trader
on which it would really be better that you should really know on how to make wise decisions because going directly on going full time trading then you wont really be able to know whether
you would really be sustaining or not. We do know that this isnt something that makes out assurance and not something that could really be easily be obtained.

Trading is one of the most stressful job but at the same time trading cannot be successful as a part time option unless you do algo trading. I have tried to be a part time trader while having a full time job and have failed miserably as I may not be able to make the trades at the time when it could be profitable we will miss out on opportunities and at the same time trading is really tough to be taken as full time job that's why only limited traders are successful. I think it cannot be a fulltime job forever else we will lose our mental balance.

I disagree, in fact its one of the most "lifetime" jobs out there. In most cases lifetime job means that you have a job that you do until you retire and then you retire, there are not that many jobs in the world where you od not retire at all, financially if you can retire then you retire as soon as possible, in my nation retirement is something you get to do with the help of the government as well. So all in all, most jobs are not "life" time jobs, its until you retire. On the other hand if we are talking about trading, that could be lifetime, as long as you have a capital to trade, then that means you could be trading even at 90 years old, look at Warren BUffet, dude is 100 years old and still trading.

This is something a skill that you cant easily get and it would really be taking tons of trial and errors before you could really be able to get a good grasps of it but once you do find yourself that getting such skill
then its true that this could really be considered to be a lifetime job and something a skill that cant really be taken away from you. You would really be having that advantage in compared into those
people who are really just that new into trading field. It would really be just that depending on how you would really be able to learnt up that fast or on how you would really be making yourself
to able to have a good handle of your own into this market on which we know that it wont really be something simple i should say.

It is not retirement that I say why this is not a lifetime but traders make the decision to stop trading before that.
We could reach a time when we don't think about earning money anymore but rather make ourselves enjoy the time until the last breath of our life.


Well, he could still be in trading or anyone in old age but I don't think they are very active in trading like usual traders did that only focus on doing this rather than a side hustle. We can feel the stress when all our time is spent trading, so different from those who just spend their time when have free time as for sure they could stay longer but doesn't mean they can be forever doing this.

Trading is not just having capital but also, having good mental health as this will affect the results of trades unless we don't care about losing our money.

Well, you have a good point too. Trading, despite how risky and unpredictable it is, there are still the best among the rest who managed to make successful trades consistently. They are those who are professionals and have huge experiences trading in the market, and still continuously trade despite of some losses and mistakes they commit in some of their trades.

So I believe it’s actually possible for trading to become a lifetime job, but it takes a lot of mastery and expertise in the market for one to do that. But for any common man to start trading and expect quick profits, I don’t think that’s a good mindset for a beginner trader.

The risks that will be faced in trading are indeed very large, so it is important for anyone who wants to start trading to understand these risks well so that they don't experience failure in the trades they make and it would be better if we don't just rely on income from trading alone and must have other sources of income so that When we fail in trading we still have income that we can use for our daily needs.

When we get profits from trading and we use these results to build a business that we control, of course that is very good, but we must have a good understanding of the business we are going to run and don't let the business not run well. If we are not able to carry out continuous trading then it would be better for us not to force ourselves because the risk of losing the assets we have is greater when we cannot trade properly.

Yes trading is a field that is full of stress and one can only enjoy the moment when he wins in trading otherwise he cannot forget the loss which he has made during trading. Trader either wants to recover the lost sum or if he becomes successful then he wants to continue his trading because it is human nature that he cannot leave to earn money.

Trading needs time and knowledge and you will lose a large amount of money until you become a successful trader so remember that trading will minimize your energy and capacity to think well as the time goes.

Certainly trading can never be a lifetime job, we cannot earn money from trading all time. We must have losses at some point. If we don't have a permanent good job system, then we will not be able to cover these losses in trading, so it will have a lot of impact on our daily life. So we must have a good job system (From which we will get a good salary), So that if we have a loss from trading then we can cover that loss and continue trading again.

I also agree with you. I see trading as a job that can be done for a lifetime depending on the memory and capital you have. For example, if you have both, you can even trade without age restrictions and without retirement. Unlike the jobs out there, your working life becomes more limited as you get older.

If we talk about risk or stress, then all jobs have the same thing, so this should not be an obstacle for you not to make trading a job in your old age other than your current main job. Moreover, bitcoin investment is an investment for the future or an investment for old age.

Generally, everyone wants to do trading, but in order to trade successfully, we must have enough knowledge about trading. If we want to invest in trading without acquiring enough knowledge about trading, it will not be very useful for us. Investing in trading is risky, we have to invest well keeping that risk in mind, many times we lose patience while trading. We must be patient and invest well in trading so that we can get proper success with this investment. We must have a long-term plan in trading. If we can trade well by keeping a long-term plan and checking the market, surely we can achieve a lot of success through trading.

Honestly speaking, I have been trading here in the cryptocurrency business for 5 years now, and until now I am still learning from it because I know that trading is not easy to learn.
With every experience, I always learn something from it, especially if I have made the wrong trading strategy, to be honest.

And until now, while I'm still studying it, my trading activity is still giving me so that I can get a profit from it even though I don't get that much from it,
but it's enough help every month of my month.

Basically, whether trading will be a lifelong job or not, in my opinion, depends on the trader. I can't say that trading is not a lifelong job, but perhaps more accurately I agree to say that trading is not the main job, or what I mean by trading is not can be used as the main job in life, one of the reasons is because yes you have also said above that this idea is not good because trading is a risky activity and the risks can never be completely avoided.

There is the possibility of risk causing a trader to experience unexpected losses, but when we have good planning, management, control and risk management then it is clear that we will be able to slightly minimize the possibility of significant risks occurring, or that means we can avoid excessive losses. great because it has good risk management, but overall there is absolutely no compulsion for anyone to get involved in the world of trading in the long term, simply put, if for example you are still able then do it.

Trading is very risky because professional traders may make profit from trading with their own strategy but they also cannot always guarantee their profit. because no one can guarantee when the market will move in any direction, trading is very risky for everyone, no matter how professional. so it is better to use trading for part time and should not decide to lead life depending on trading. a separate source of passive income is essential to meet the regular expenses of life. so trading should not be thought of as a profession or a source of lifetime income in any way

You may not found yourself in trading forever because of some reasons best to you but the important thing for every trader is that they must do the right things always in all their time they find themselves. It is so sad as a trader not following the steps a trader should follow because it will definitely dissapoint you when the outcomes are not right. One of the things that makes people to quit trading is because they end up getting frustrated because they decide not to learn but to earn money from trading without understanding.

To enjoy trading one needs to take time to learn trading better, atleast this will reduce the stress and risk of losing money in trading. Trading is all about learning everyday because their are always changes in strategy and it takes learning for one to be updated with the new strategies that are in trading.

Trading is not a lifetime job but the little time you see yourself trading try and make sure you are doing it right and not with a blank understanding just trying to make money.

Let's just say that trading is a second job after another job as the main one, because when someone already has a main job with a monthly salary that is always stable. Of course, it will be easier for him to make a small allowance to allocate his money to be able to trade which is considered a second job for him. Because in this way it will also be easier for him to adapt when he has to face losses through trading which may be caused by price corrections in the market as is currently happening.

1. Stressful if you dont know on what you are doing or simply doesnt have the idea but once you do have a good grasps of it then you would really be changing up that perception or idea in mind.
2. Trading isnt something that could make you enjoy, its not an entertainment thing but rather its a business or some sort of investment which means that you would really be needing that serious
    approach towards it and not really that someone whose really that doing it for the sake of fun.
3. Its not that bad to make up some searches and sticking out with the best platforms out there. Just dont make yourself that too lazy then you would really be just that fine.

Trading isnt a job but this one could really be the best side income or job that you could have aside from your main. We do know the probabilities that it is
something that could help out financially if its done well but of course success will really be that determine on how good you would be doing trading.

Your opinion are yours and not everyone would agree with you but your trading orientation is very odd to me, the reasons doesn't makes an iota of any sense.

The first one, you said quite stressful. Like is there literally any job or skills out there that is not stressful? All of em are stressful but if you are used to doing something over and over, it becomes a hobby and something you enjoy doing rather than just a job and because money(profits) is there it will serve as a motivation not to see trading as a stress.

The second illogical reason you said it's not enjoyable. Are you sure you have trade before and make money? Because I don't understand why you will say there is no enjoyment in making money, that's a lie or you just trying to defend your mind because you didn't succeed in trading.

The last lame excuse you said scam, you just verified that you don't understand trading, your reasons are far from what even a newbie trader would compose, I'm sorry to say but you don't know deep understanding of trading.

I disagree with you here! Trading is not stressful when one is acquainted to it. Most persons take it as a hobby, a full time job where they earn a living. So you cant tell me that what i use to earn a living is stressful and i will quit. Also i have never seen a trader who complains about mental problem. Its kind of a remote job and self employed nature of job so one should be happy about that because i know how many persons who are willing to  work at home and not work for someone.

You dont have to sit all the time at home. You can execute trade by doing some configurations while you go out and do other activities and the trade will exit the market or will execute new trades. There is no way a trader cannot enjoy his job if he/her participate ion other activities outside of trading. After all all work and no play make jack a dull boy.

No exchange is 100% trust guaranteed. This is why traders deposit the amount that are willing to use for trade on a daily basis. So even if there is any scams or cheat then they will lose only the money they have deposited on the exchange.

Many of those who are mainly involved with crypto currency are interested in trading for short term income. Trading is a sector that requires a lot of experience and patience. Since the cryptocurrency market is always up and down, it is really difficult to predict which direction the market will go in the future. I am not stopping you from trading, if you are very good at trading you can earn good profit from it. If you can control your greed then you will get good success in future. While trading can be a lucrative industry for a few, it is good to have diversified sources of income to reduce risk and ensure long-term financial success. But if you consider trade industry as your main source of income then I think it will be a big wrong decision in your life.

Trading is risky but we cannot say it cannot be a lifetime job, there are some traders that have been trading from when they were teenagers and are currently in their old age but still trading and some of them have retired and now teaching others how to become professional traders. Trading can be taken as a career job and if we stay disciplined we can achieve success in trading. Trading can make you money when you learn how to trade very well and not become greedy when trading or addicted to trading that you do not get worried about your losses to learn from them and try to make better trades when next you analyze the market. Both professional traders and beginners can lose when trading but don't you ever think that you cannot make it from trading. Anybody saying that is a lier, you might need an extra income to help you out but you can make it from trading cryptocurrency.

Of course because as I said above that trading is a part-time job and not a job that can provide the main income, because the main income is something that can always give you a guarantee in a certain period of time that you will be able to earn money or earn, while trading has a level of risk that sometimes cannot be avoided completely and this is why I think the better decision and approach is to make trading a side profession to supplement your main income.

The downside of making trading a priority to earn or making it your only job is that there may be times when you need money for living expenses that cannot be tolerated while you are losing money in trading. As you said, the purpose of maintaining a main job is to ensure that our needs will still be met without having interruptions when you experience losses in trading, or simply even if you experience losses in trading but you still have a main job that will be able to provide you with income to make ends meet.

I differ completely from your perspective, once we grow older we just want to enjoy and trading can be one of the way to make money for an individual at their comfort. I am not talking about the day trading but longer formats is quite convenient and anyone who has decent capital can do it with less risky plans and make money for their needs.

But for me, I'd rather help myself to relax as for sure, as we grow old we've done enough which is time for us to enjoy, not to make money anymore.
Because I would agree that trading is stressful and I don't think we should stress ourselves if we are old already. If we think for pastime, I don't think this is a good decision. We better just invest and leave peacefully live without thinking about the market situation and do research because we trade. Why not just sit down and relax, and wait for our investment to grow rather than stressing ourselves to check always the market price?

As you try becoming an established trader, you have to sustain it through having a stable job. But once you get there, you're starting to have the idea that trading can be an ideal thing for everyone.

It can certainly be a lifetime job.

You can be a digital nomad forever but at the same time, you can do trading as well. It could be your part time job forever but it's a skill that we have to learn in order to survive.

Losses are normal as if you're doing your own business from it.

Honestly, anything someone is doing, there will be a time when they will not have much strength to do it anymore. So as for trading, it is not an easy task; it is really stressful, and because it involves serious thinking and requires some time to do research, anybody with health challenges will hardly continue trading. 


Despite the fact that trading is very difficult, there are some traders who are making a reasonable amount of money from trading always.When someone has a good foundation in trading and it knowledgeable about it, it will not be that stressful for them. There are people who always feel comfortable trading.
 


The issue of trust is there, but the best thing is to always move your money  from exchange especially after done with trading. Once you are not leaving big amount of funds in exchange there will be no problem. No exchange can be 70% trust but still there still good ones existing.

Am of the opinion that trading could be a lifetime job because we have professional traders also known as merchant traders and they have so much experience that with the initiative of AI bots integration on many trading platforms, it becomes seamless and easy for these merchant traders to adapt and do better, making more profits and having enough time to do other meaningful oldie stuff.

Trading is not a lifetime job because no one can tell when you will train and succeed or when you will sit down.  Currently everyone is willing to do training but there are many who do not understand or many understand that it seems very easy and very easy to earn money but actually it is not.  You will be very profitable when you come to chat and you can become fakir in a long time or in a limited time that depends on the market.  Such a situation or situation in the market means that if you want to stay in the market, you must move according to the market.  But earning by trading is not very easy but not difficult if you understand the basics or your concepts or if you can take it you have more chances.

When I first started trading, I suffered huge losses due to many wrong decisions.  But since I gradually gained good experience in trading, I did not face any big loss. But we always start trading with good experience in the market. But we can get good money from trading and if there is no wrong decision we risk big loss.

This is where I differ and if you hangout with retired people then you will understand why just being in the relax forever is not possible at all. No need to go aggressive in trading and it's not profitable either for anyone but definitely they can prefer long trader and they won't lose any of their relax time if they do one or two trades once in a while and the fact is no one will say no to money, no matter how old they are.

I quite agree with what you say, because some of the older professional traders I have met have changed their direction to become just investors or opened trading classes with their experience to be able to earn money. They say that they are old enough, so they cannot spend long in front of the monitor monitoring market movements. Or they are old and spending more time at home with their family is much more enjoyable for them. That makes sense seeing as how trading is actually quite stressful and takes up a person's time and attention - even though there are some people who say that trading can be fun, I think it's just a lie to attract more people to trading.

I quite agree with the points you mentioned because that is what I experienced.
After trading for quite a long time, I finally felt that the stress level was increasingly bothering my mind so that I was no longer able to enjoy any trading activities, in fact it was quite disturbing to other activities because it was quite difficult to stop thinking about trading, especially when we thought we had entered the market incorrectly so that some decisions caused losses.
For point three, I no longer really trust new projects and only trade coins with a good rating on CMC and even then only for the long term, because day traders really take away my mind and energy in my opinion.

There are many people involved in trading starting to try to find opportunities in other sectors to make money. One of them started looking for investment sources elsewhere and I asked them about it and generally they said it was a long-term move. Health problems will prevent you from being able to engage in trading and if the income is not good, people will definitely not be able to survive even if it is trading.

As for the stock exchange issue it is up to each individual and I am sure that before they decide to get involved in the stock exchange they have gone through consideration. In fact, we have to look at how the money we have remains more productive, so that when our health is disturbed there are ways we can do it so that we don't stop getting income but small and large problems depend on how someone manages

Agree to that statement, in terms of those who are trying to encourage other people to engage into trading most of them are trying to upsell how successfull they are either for viewers /readers or possible target to sell their services, but just like what you mentioned there are experienced traders who choose to change directions maybe some already invest to another types of business or just wanting to wait on their target instead of trying to play against the trends.


Just like what you mentioned more on time that being consume and the stress that you will need to embrace while you are still in this business, not all can take that long that's why they divert their attention to other types of venues, instead of keep chasing for their luck they choose to invest to another business and try their knowledge to succeed.

That is true, if there was a way to guarantee income then all of them would have guaranteed it, we all know that it is not going to be that easy and we should all be careful about it. I personally believe that professional traders make a lot of mistakes as well, they just make a lot more trades so that means they have more mistakes but they make more profits as well so that is why they are doing fine.

An amateur may make 10 mistakes a month and lose all they have, a professional could make as much as ten a day, but they could make twenty or more right calls a day, so their mistakes would be a lot, the lost money would be significantly larger and yet they would not be able to really see that and that's important difference.

I think the whole point of whether you're full time or plans to do this until you die is not even a problem. And most of the traders are good except those that are starting out and to find out if a trader is good is not about his big gains but with how much he's losing. If a trader is able to minimize the losses then that's a sure thing a category that trader is a good one. Minimizing your losses and cutting them is a hard pill to swallow when you think that you're good with your trades. But if you're not able to do that at the right time then the mitigation of your losses isn't done properly. I may agree that trading isn't a lifetime job and just like any other job that you can be replaced anytime. For a trader, it is not his job forever because once he's able to save up money and able to invest in many assets and businesses, it's a big possibility that he don't want to be tired anymore with the market and just want to have a rest forever with it and I think that many traders are thinking like that.

Its never been easy and it would never be and just said if it was that easy then all of us would really be doing trading. Somewhat its really that true that trading could really make out such probability that it could really be a lifetime job on the time that you would really be getting this lifetime skill which is something that cant really be easily obtain by a certain person in a short span of time. This is why it would really be that best that you should not make yourself that too optimistic because it would really be just make you desperate. Its not really that bad to have those kind of targets or goals but be sure to make it slow and constant or something that do talks about being that sensible on the things that you've been doing. Also, put up into your mind that this isnt something that you could be able to have a good grasps on your first try. This would really be that something that
will really taking up some time and would really be putting up tons of efforts.

indeed a state where it might cause strain to our mental well being could never be fun.
but what they mean by fun I presume is probably the fact that when they are in profit adrenaline kicks in, they feel so excited with the progress they've made and consider it fun.
but the whole process is never fun personally I'm speaking from my personal experience being fixated on the chart 24/7 is never fun feels like too much effort being spent into watching out how the market plays out where really we should just set auto take profit on our trades its that easy.

I guess thats why as you said some more experienced trader are just leisurely using their money that are hard earned when they were still in their prime.
old trader definitely don't have the capability to be as fit as before anymore so it does make sense if they are teaching younger generation.
though its always better if they can get the grasp of current market condition for once.

Yes that's right, as time goes by a person gets older and when a person enters the elderly phase there will be a decrease in thinking power and memory in their mind which means that obviously this reduction in ability can make it very difficult for them in terms of trading to find daily or weekly profits that they have planned, therefore I think I will agree with the idea that most traders will start to retire from their trading involvement when they have entered the elderly phase.

Another reason as you said is that when they are old then they will not be able to last long to be in front of the monitor to monitor market movements or analyze which is another thing is the reduction of thinking power due to the age factor can make them have a high probability of making a wrong decision which ultimately leads them to losses, on the other hand of course trading is quite stressful especially when we see market fluctuations that make us feel significant worries in the mind and the scenario is full of pressure, and honestly I can't claim that trading is fun because after all the possibility of risk will continue to lurk someone when running a session.

It depends on people’s perspective. Trading is a game of skill. So if you got the skill intact with you, then yes you can really make living from it. Age is just a number. It doesn’t at all matter. If you still able to make profits from trading, then you should continue it, until and unless you are capable of. I have seen some giving up trading in early age also. So yes it completely depends on a person’s capability whether he can do trading for whole life or not.

Trading can be a lifetime career.  To those who have prepared themselves and give time to build up a good foundation and knowledge about trading.  The longer a person trades, the better they perform in their trading activities since they accumulate experience and knowledge as time passes by.

Aside from that, it is a matter of interest and passion so individuals can have different perspectives about trading as a career path, and not because one thinks that trading is not suited for him means it is not suited for everyone.  Remember, something that is too challenging for someone can be very easy and fun for the other one.

Here is an article of some famous people who thrive in trading that is still alive: https://www.investopedia.com/financial-edge/1112/3-of-the-best-traders-alive.aspx

I guess you’re right. People have different outlook on trading, some are seeing it as quite fun and profitable, while others are trading and end up with troubles or frustration. So it all depends how skilled or capable you are in trading, that let’s you find joy and satisfaction with it, while for those who are still new in the process might perceived it like more risky and stressful because it’s actually hard to trade following a very volatile and unpredictable market. And trading like a lifetime job is like carrying a burden that’s why majority don’t find trading as a lifetime profession.

Not requirement the limitation of your age, experienced until your level education degree I think its reason why trading could be life time job based on my perspective. In my opinion, to get offline work in daily day has limitation of age usually above 60 years old difficult get job and make bitcoin as lifetime hob is very realistic. During has chance to make profit every day and bitcoin could be passive income why not make bitcoin as lifetime job?
I think not much problem with many people increasing their financial condition after getting profit from trading, most of profitable spend for staking and earn passive income every month when current market not help well to earn profitable consistency. During trading help your financial and earn profit in daily day or monthly its not much problem to make trading as lifetime job.

Of course trading is a skill activity or something that is done by making skills as a fishing rod to get a certain amount of profit, but I think it is too risky for us to make trading the only place of income or make trading the main job to produce and fulfill all the needs of life, because after all trading has the possibility of risk which can sometimes be very significant especially when a trader is trapped in his emotions and situations like this apply to all traders whether they are beginners or experienced ones.

This means that it is better to make trading a side job to supplement the income from your main job because of course the name of the need will never be tolerated and what if for example you experience a loss while you really need money to buy something for the needs of life? this is what we should pay attention to which means it is better to prevent than to cure, on the other hand yes I agree that age is a number but I'm not sure that someone who is very old can do it right, surely there will be a lot of disturbances that he experiences when analyzing the market due to the age factor which should be used more for rest time, but yes it depends on each choice.

It is true that in this case it really depends on those who carry it out and it will be very pleasant for those who have gone through their difficult times so that they have been able to gain profits from every trade they make and for those who have not passed the learning stage of course they will find it very difficult because they are still they have to learn a lot patiently so that they can make a profit from every trade they make, considering trading as a profession then this will make someone continue to trade which can make them profit from the trades they make.

Maybe most of us trading communities in the crypto space have experienced what you are saying, but if we don't stop instead we continue our learning process in learning trading,
it's fine if what we do produces good results.

My example is myself. Until now, I've been studying trading for 5 years. I'm still trading here in crypto, and I'm getting profit, which helps with my expenses in life, honestly speaking.
Although I'm not saying this is a lifetime job, as long as mine is helpful and beneficial, let's go.

I agree with you almost in all the three points you mentioned. The first and second one can be debated and have a talk on but the third one is very much increased nowadays. Due to scams people are very disappointed from trading and they quit.

We have to launch campaigns and awareness courses so that people could be well aware of the tactics and techniques which scammers use to scam people. Once that will be over then people will feel more confident in investing and making their careers in crypto.

Everyone sees an opportunity to make money and when we have an opportunity then pursue it because something that is fought for with knowledge will give much better results. There are many ways that people take when they are successful in trading and want to open up wide avenues to make money, with many ways we will receive many sources of income as long as we are able to control and know what to do. The most important thing is not to be greedy and if you want to develop another business after trading, you should choose one that meets the criteria that we can carry out.

Very often people end up much worse off because of greed and if we are not able to control it will actually make everything disappear. We must have self-control so that the decisions we make are really a good start for the journey ahead and don't force something we can't do because it will end badly.

However returning to our goal in trading, namely to achieve or gain profits, if it is possible to continue to gain profits with the skills we have in trading, I think we will continue to do so.
although there is a lot of debate and I think that is quite a natural thing because everyone has a different perspective.
And personally, I also anticipate many things in trading as mentioned, so if the goal is no longer possible to achieve for various reasons, then I will also decide to stop and look for profits in a different place.

People actually trade as a full time job and few of them are successful but the reality is that, it's not an easy path. Just as you mentioned, there is risk, stress and lot of challenges in trading profession. Some of these reasons you mentioned can be manageable during trading although they can not be sustainable for a long term but this no.2 caught my attention. I mean why would anyone continue to do something that stress them and doesn't even provide them with a good income? Who does that? Financial reward is the main reason why people trade and if the earnings are not coming, the motivation, passion and interest will definitely disappear.

We have to face the reality, trading may work out well for some people and they may probably make it their lifetime profession but it's not sustainable for everyone please.

True, maybe it depends more on the choice of each person, because there is nothing wrong with continuing to trade in the market if for example they feel that they have the skills and knowledge that are qualified enough to trade with the aim of making a profit then yes there is nothing wrong as long as in addition to their knowledge and skills in trading they also have to really make sure that they have good and good risk management to maintain their safety in the long run.

Yes of course everyone has a different point of view and this is the purpose of the topic which is to see various opinions from different points of view and we can see and judge about which one is more realistic or reasonable, and for myself honestly I don't have any plans about whether I will still be involved in the world of trading until old or not, because usually I am not a trader who is too active in the market or in the sense that I open trades when I have free time and it also depends on the moment if for example there is absolutely no moment that suits my strategy then I will not execute it.

it's very normal if you lose at the beginning when trying to trade, 99% of traders at the beginning definitely experience the same thing ^{(me too)}

good for you, you want to learn from your past mistakes, you don't stop trading because you know that it's all just a process, failure at the beginning is normal, giving up only makes everything in vain.

people do trading of course to make money and profits, and out there there are many traders who make big money from trading, therefore it's not wrong for everyone to try to become a trader because the results they get are very good and quite profitable if they make a mistake can be minimized as small as possible.

This is true, getting to a level where you could say that you are making money based on what you are trading and with that money trying to live with it, is hard. First of all, you need to spend a certain amount of money every month to be able to survive, and that means you need to make at least that much every month, but you also need to make more than that most months so that on the months that the market is bad, you may fail to make that much money and in return you should be able to spend the money you made on the previous good months.

These are all hard stuff and very difficult, of course not everyone will see the same situation and I believe that we are going to end up with a lot of trouble if we are not careful.

If you make trading a full-time job or even make trading the only main income then I will honestly say that it is too dangerous an idea, because of course you have also said the right thing above that trading has the possibility of risks that we never expected which is very likely to make us experience losses along with experiencing some significant pressure that can sometimes make a trader stressed and not infrequently these situations make traders vent their emotions on trading by trading impulsively and not based on skills and knowledge but by emotions.

In trading there is absolutely no certainty for you to always be able to succeed in making a profit, because obviously the risk will continue to lurk you in every session where in addition trading is very draining our minds and mentally when we analyze a market and also when we are forced to be able to withstand emotions when experiencing losses, Therefore this is the reason why trading is more recommended not to be made as your main job, the fear is that when you are unable to hold your emotions that make you likely to experience a significant loss while on the other hand you do not have other income then obviously it will make it difficult for you to meet the costs of living. The bottom line is that it does not matter if you are involved in trading for a long time until old age for example as long as you are really able to maintain management, control along with other risk management, but as I said above that never make trading the only main income.

There are people that has earn huge from trading and we should not say it is not a lifetime job.
When you have something giving you money everytime, would you stop doing that same thing because someone said it's not a lifetime job. Trading is quite better than the regular jobs we hunt for because once we are getting funds from it, we should be satisfied and keep doing it to earn more from the market. Trading is good if we now how to go about it and make money foe ourselves.

1)No, trading can be used as a full-time job if one is well knowledgeable about trading, I have come across full-time traders in my country and I can say that they spent time to develop themselves and they are making it every day and recently they have got enough money to start up other business that is giving them more money to keep doing their work on daily basis.
2) Who says trading is not enjoyable anymore have you been in touch with all the traders to find out that they are not enjoying what they love doing everyday that gives them money, hey you got to be kidding me right now because I have got a lot of people who only leave their house to get things but the whole of their properties, business, up keep and daily expenses, trading profit is used to take care of them.
3. People should be mindful of exchanges because they are not worthy to be trusted, several cases of lost of funds has been seen and discussed on the forum so using exchanges to receive funds is not bad but after the transaction it is expected you move your funds out of exchanges if you need to keep the money for a long time.

On the time that people would really be seeing other peoples or traders earning then there would really be that kind of boost up on which this is something that you would really be having in mind that
you could really be able to do the same even if you are just that a noob or doesnt have the idea on what it is. It might really that looks that too easy but on the time that you would really be stepping your foot
into the market then this is the time that you would really be considering yourself on having that kind of challenge on which you would really say that its really that too damn hard.
Trading isnt a job but its something that could add up an income which it would really becoming a sideline if you dont it well.

Not all would really be able to reach out such situation or condition because trading is never been simple nor really that easy to achieve. On the time that you had made up yourself
to go with trading then this wouldnt really be an easy stuff and it would really be taking up some time.

Lifetime job, in my opinion, presupposes a person’s self-identification with a specific type of activity. Defining onerself through one`s profession. I believe that modern realities go beyond this definition, because people have to expand their skills and master something new in order to remain in demand and competitive. A person can consider himself a trader. But this does not mean that he will not have to master other types of activities throughout his life.

There was an article that I read before that 97% of day traders lose their money on their first experience and the other 3% earns as much as a bank teller.

Though that may be the case, there are special exceptions to this rule. Remember that trading is all about experience. There are multiple factors in order to know the signs in which may give you an idea whether to invest in a certain cryptocurrency or not.

Going back to the discussion, trading is somehow a difficult job to be consistent with. There are others who found success in trading but there are lots of people who have experienced otherwise. At the end of the day, it really depends on how you view trading as a whole since saying that such is "not a lifetime job" invalidates the efforts of others who have made this their careers in their lives.


I only understood the last sentence you said- anyway, I do agree that a person may venture into other types of jobs whatever they want to. Generally, people trade cryptocurrencies and they view it as a sideline to their main job. While I do agree to a certain extent to what OP said, still, there is a handful of people who found success in trading and saying what OP said invalidates this fact.

We cannot say trading as a life time job because all the time the situations are not according to us and sometimes the market becomes so bad that we cannot earn a penny from it. A lifetime job is true in a case if we continue trading for our whole life without considering win or lose but if we think about trading then I think it consists of more loss than a winning situation.

Trading is better than a job because it gives you huge money in a day but also remember that if the market remains unstable then you can also lose a huge sum very quickly whereas in regular jobs you are just earning according to your hard work instead of losing a large part.

Market is unpredictable and there's no way for us to be able to have that kind of fixed results or outcomes into our trades on which it would really be neither giving out that positive or negative results.

Trading could really be that something that you could really be able to tell that will give out that kind of opportunity that you could make it a job or something that could give out that income
but of course its something that you can be able to rely because not all the time that the market would really be that in together or with in line with your speculations on which means
that result or outcome will really be that vary from time to time.

If you do get to have that single job the living into this world wouldnt really be something that easy due to economical aspect and this is why it would really be resulting
into that kind struggle.

I don't think anyone will want to stop trading if someone has made profits through trading very often every month. Because whatever work we do now is to earn money, so no one will want to stop trading if they can still make money from the market which can be done very simply even though previously they also had time to learn to understand the market and also understand how to trade. So that's the simple answer to this because it would be really silly to throw away a job that makes money.

To be honest, trading can be a lifetime job if you are exceptionally skillful on it and is gaining sustainable profits every time you decide to trade. However, not all trades turn into profits regardless of our expertise in trading, as there are times that inevitable losses happen in the market. So for me, trading greatly depends based on your own personal experiences, and since we have varied experiences in trading, that also means we have different points of view about it when it comes to having it as a lifetime job.

We are involved in trading and we have enough knowledge about trading but still I would say we must have a full time job along with trading. Having a full-time job means being sure,even if the results are against the results of trading, it is possible to meet your needs through your permanent job. In the case of trading, many times our results are just opposite, no matter how much research we do in trading, we can never get the results in our favor, if we do not have an alternative source of income at that time, but we can fall into financial disaster. Since my family is dependent on me, we must think and plan in advance so that my family does not fall into a financial disaster.

You are right, no matter how skilled a person is in trading, it does not guarantee that they will make a profit every time, because sometimes there are times when they also predict a very volatile market incorrectly. I won't even believe it when someone says they have never experienced a loss when trading, because losses are inherent. The only difference is that they can minimize losses and recover quickly when they experience losses because of their trading skills.
If we talk about whether trading is a job for life or not, I also agree with you, even that depends on our respective points of view. If someone thinks that it can be a lifelong job then they can do it, and if someone says it can't be a lifelong job, that's not wrong either.

1. Trading is really a stressful thing, but for professional traders out there, I think that they can overcome stress. I mean if they want to treat trading as their fulltime job, they will really encounter stress and it's inevitable. At the end of the day, every job is "STRESSFUL" in different ways. It's only up to the person on how they will overcome it.
2. If you're not earning then yes it will not be enjoyable, but for those who are earning lots of dollars on a daily basis, I don't think that they will feel that way. Maybe they will feel boredom because they are doing it on a daily basis continuously. With regards to the traders not earning, of course they will not treat it as a job if they aren't earning. :D
3. Trust issues? Trust with the exchange because of the fact that every exchange can have the same faith as FTX that's what you're saying? It might be, but take note that there are still many people out there who still wants to store huge money on exchanges for various reasons.

If you're earning more than losing more then it can be. A quick Google search of the definition of a job will give you this: "a task or piece of work, especially one that is paid:".
Piece of work = trading itself. One that is paid = they are being paid through the profits that they're getting.

Though it's true that having a good source or stable source of income will help but there are other experienced traders who manage to work it  out and enjoy the luxury of being a successful traders, but not all can say that they really have that same fate. It's best to have the right balance and not to lean that much but instead find the right attitude and see if things will going to work for you.

If possible then go for it and take every advantages then if things is no longer working accordingly then better to quit along or find alternative venue to continue your investment.

Ok, I will put it differently. In the past, it was possible to clearly associate yourself with a profession. When a person was asked who he was, he answered “I am a doctor” or “I am a baker” or “I am a teacher.” That is, there was a complete identification of one’s personality, individuality with the activity, with the function that the person performed. Now we are seeing a picture where people so often have to change not just their place of work, but also their qualifications, that the above-mentioned definition of themselves is impossible. Therefore, it is simply not relevant anymore to talk about some kind of a lifetime job.

I don’t totally believe in your statement because how you feel about trading cannot be the same way thousands of traders out there are feeling about it that they have their hearts attached to it. Trading is quite risky but if you can understand the technique and able to find a breakthrough in it, that is the day you begin to receive ‘congratulations’  on your success in trading. It takes time tough to become successful in it, but with much conviction and dedication towards scheduling what you set your heart on, you can become successful in it and you can also see it as a full time job depending on how you want it and the role it’ll play in your life.

I've known someone who had become that a full time trader and really that be able to quit up or resign into his day job and putting up the focus into his trading on which it did really take up some time and tons of efforts and hard work on which they do really be able to do after all the years and ended up to be that fruitful or something that did really result up for his goal to be achieved. Yes, not everyone would really be that successful on trading on which there would really be people that would be able to succeed and there are ones who do fail but doesnt mean that you wont really be trying it all because you are focusing on the failure.

Trading could really be something a skill that would really be beneficial forever on which once you do have a good grasps into it then you would really be definitely be able to make use of it and would be having
advantage on handling up yourself on a random speculative market rather than on making up some random guess and without any basis. We do know on how this market works
which its not something that you could confidently making up positions without any basis.

What some people earn in trading is even far better than what some civil servant makes, the government is corrupt and the people enjoying civil service is no more than politicians and since all of us can not go into trading that is one of the reasons. Young people even believe in trading than even accepting jobs no one wants to be bossed around with the amount been paid you  will prefer to be your own boss. People making money from trading i don't think anyone will want to stop  at whatever anyone will say. It might be  a actual job but as far as people are making money to me it is still a job. What is the reason that we are working is not because of money the whole point is making money.

Well said, there are many opinions and self-explanatories regarding to this matter, and like you, I believe that there are
people or traders who manage to use this business as their main source of income.

Those who are capable in learning how to analyze well and keep enhancing theor knowledge to make sure that they
are in the right path in how they will take care of their business.

Trading is for those who knows how to adopt and those who are willing to take part and overcoming the risk behind.

I said earlier that trading is still a life time job.  For any other investment or other business if you want to do life time job.  In the event that you are asked to come to trading to get to know you in dating or your very short time you will advance in the pocket.  And if you lose, you think your trading is over because if your capital is lost, you can never do it without capital.  But there are many people who analyze these things and earn a lot of money with dating and go up a lot who actually live from here, if not life time.  Earned a lot of money because they were able to earn a lot of money in a short amount of time and started some other business from training in their future.

It is possible to profit from trading if you understand the technique of trading. However, many new people are getting interested in trading day by day, due to which it appears that many people use the same strategy and market chart analysis is not working many times. Therefore, in the field of trading, the strategy has to be changed constantly. And thus it is not possible for everyone to succeed in trading by constantly adopting new strategies. Traders with very small amounts can consistently make good profits. so trading is very risky for everyone. and such a risky thing cannot be a lifetime job for anyone

You are right, trading can give us a very high income and it exceeds an employee's income every month, or maybe even in trading we can earn an employee's salary in just one day. However, remember that this can only be done by professionals and they also carry large amounts of capital. but for a beginner it is not easy at all. they can even lose money in an instant when they make a trade.

Indeed, if we see the income of professional traders, we will be tempted by that. But in reality it is not as easy as imagined. They also need a very long process so that they can be at the point where they make big money. And maybe they have spent a lot in the process of what they did (learning). And we only see when they are successful.

That's what we usually forget, we only see the sweet fruit that someone picked, but we don't see how long they planted the tree so that it can produce sweet fruit like that.

I think his point is that there are so many things that could cause trading to be suited just for the short term side hustle and nothing more and I do agree trading is stressful activity.
we just getting our brain fixated into the market 24/7 just to not miss the opportunity of getting the profit, we could take advantage of the trading feature available such as automatic taking profit but regardless
we just gonna be fixated in it anyway.
it might be a lifetime job for people that just simply are suited for trading, who can have resilient mentaility against the wave of market, but i'm pretty sure that for most of the people, its not really a lifetime job.
mentally taxing job such as trading just never cut it for lifetime job.

Trading is not something that a person can rely on as a source of income. If you are into trading or any online stuff, it is good to have another alternative for yourself. We all know that some people don't have any other source of income apart from trading, but it depends on how long they have been trading. Because there are some people who introduce themselves to trading and do not survive, and what causes it for them is that they don't wait to get the proper knowledge about trading.

That's why we see most people losing interest in trading right from the beginning. Trading is quite a site for earning money, which means if we should learn how to monitor market strategies. At times trading is better than some companies jobs that pay per month.

True, everyone can make a profit in trading if they have the ways and tricks along with understanding the concept of the market, on the other hand yes you are right that in trading strategies must always be changed or that means one must have at least more than one strategy to make a profit because as we know about the nature of the market where the market is always different over time and by having more strategies then most likely you will also be able to take advantage of every market situation. In my opinion, it is not the strategy that does not work but the problem is that often a trader is wrong in using his strategy where they use strategy A in a market that is B, meaning that it is an inappropriate moment to enter the market with an inappropriate strategy, this is why every trader must understand the habits of the market movements that occur at any time.

But it is a fact that no matter who it is including professional traders can never avoid the possibility of loss, but they have a lot of experience that can make them know what to do and what to avoid in every condition, I see that professional traders are those who have many ways to turn decisions into profits but together with smart risk management which ultimately makes them succeed in getting greater profits than losses, but for the problem of whether trading can be made a lifelong profession or not I think it depends on the person, if they are able to do it well then no problem.

Yes no one can lead a happy life depending on trading only without other sources of income. Because although good amount of profit can be obtained from trading, it is not always able to give profit and besides, there are many times of loss. So besides trading everyone must have a regular source of income with which he can lead a happy life. And trading has to be used for the purpose of living his luxurious life. Because regular profit is not available through trading but sometimes very big profit is available from here.

Op I don't agree , In ancient times people had only one business, and that was trade. Trade used to run smoothly before, but times have changed. It is no longer necessary to confine the trade to an aerial shop or shop .
Online commerce has opened new doors where people easily sell their products worldwide and people run their business from home , increasing both their sale and profit.

This new style for trading has helped people to reach their destination , and it has become easier to achieve . Thus  direction of commerce has changed and it's new form is online commerce which is the meaning of today era.

You mean trading of goods on which in the main concept then this is something understandable or acceptable but we arent talking with that kind of trading but rather trading up with online assets or whatsover that correlates to it. This is a different market which does need up with that similar kind of approach on which to buy low and sell high thing but we know that this isnt something that you would really be able to grasps up well
on the time that you would really be able to make yourself engage with it but just like on what most people been saying up on here on which this is something that you could changed up your life
if ever you do make yourself that do have that good way or being that profitable.

Learning up this trading skills isnt really something that you could really be able to make yourself that be able to acquire or attain in a short time. You would really be
passing up tons of trials and error or does still take a very long time for you to be able to get into it.

I completely agree with that because even if a person is earning good enough money from trading it doesn't mean they can continue to do that forever, and one needs to have some skills that they can utilize in case their current source of income isn't working out for them, and these things happen in life and I say this because I have experienced it myself. You can't rely on a single thing to feed you your whole life, and you will need to find multiple ways that you can utilize when there is a need for you to earn money from a different means than what you do now.

So, even though I agree with the fact that one can earn a living through day trading if they gain enough knowledge and understanding and have enough money to use for it, I also believe that one should be skilled in other things as well because it can't be considered something you can do forever and even if you can, you should still acquire extra skills.

And while some are discussing about trading isn't a full time job, here goes some about telling that bitcoin isn't a life time job.

There's so much in life and we can't stop people from doing things that we like. It's true that ecommerce has changed nowadays and the same goes in trading.

In life, we've been doing a lot of trades and this is the career that a few risk takers chosen as their paths.

Once that people would really be tending to fixate up their mindset or the beliefs that they do have then for sure they would really be doing it no matter what others would be saying on which
it would really be just that something that cant be changed up because people would really be indeed seeing that this is something that will really be changing up their lives on the time that they would really be doing it right. Yes, trading could really give out that kind of life changing opportunity if you are really that someone whose really that serious when it comes to be that profitable with trading.
It isnt a job but something that could be considered to be a side job but it could potentially be able to surpass your main jobs salary or earning if you are really that good on doing so.

There are really just that some people becomes that too impatient and really having that kind of approach towards trading that this is some sort of last resort but its not.
Being that too delusional what makes that tons of mistakes.

Of course this will be very difficult if we only rely on income from trading and also we don't know for sure whether we will be able to get regular profits from trading and it would be better to have another source of income that can meet their daily needs and we can use the profits obtained from trading for the desires we need and it would be even better if we could use the results from trading to be able to invest in our future.

well, trading in real life is very different from trading on the internet. In real life, we carry out trade and transactions with basic needs and whatever we need. Meanwhile, on the internet, we trade the assets we own. If we focus on building a living from trading on the internet, it is possible, but it requires a strong foundation. We have to be able to meet all of life's needs that we have before we can be successful, and that is a difficult thing. In fact, I believe that even professional traders do not focus on trading. They probably have businesses they run out there.

Yeah, I couldn't imagine myself being a trader for 20 years, I'm sure there is a time when we feel bored and tired of doing this every day.
It will say something that even even we are successful in this field, it will be going to happen that we look for something new. Another earning opportunity that will excite us like we felt during our early days in trading. I don't think I am just the one who feels this but I believe that the majority felt the same.
In fact, some people resign from their stable jobs even though they already have higher positions and a huge salary because they are not happy anymore. Because life is not all about money but also, about finding happiness and life fulfillment.

If a person wants to lead his life depending on trading then he will do great stupidity. I think people who are smart always do trading along with working. Because working will get a certain amount of salary every month with that money to meet the needs of all the family members.  It can be done. And if I wait to run the family with the money from trading profit, it would be a big mistake for us.

But we know that there would really be those people who would really be tending to take up the risks and this is why they would really be loving on taking up such step because they do know
that there are really some chances that once they do able to get it well then it would really be something that would really be rewarding but of course its something that not giving that positive results all the time.
No one would be on their right minds on quitting or resigning their job directly without assuring that they could sustain themselves on doing trading. Just like on what said that it is really just that for side income
and if it turns out that it would really be giving out something more bigger then its good but not all the time that certain persons would be able to experience such condition.

Its not a lifetime job but its something a skill that you could be able to use it forever and if it turns out that you are really that better into this one then it would really be
an advantage and something that could benefit you out.

It's true but the logic of trading is there and we carry that for the rest of our lives. So, if it's possible to do it in real world and we do trades for our living.

This is also possible to do in online trading if you're in the crypto market. Whatever the fate is giving you with these opportunities, all you have to do is focus on it and be better because if you're not doing good on it, then someone out there practicing trying to be the best.

Even though trading on the internet and trading in the real world have the same goal, namely to make a profit, I think there are quite significant differences in terms of running it, trading in the real world you only need buyers to spend your merchandise and if no one buys then that means Your goods are durable and can still be sold the next day before they expire, but when you trade on the internet, whether it's trading or investing, it's clear that if you don't succeed in making a profit, your open position misses and leads you to a loss, then in some cases This is where most people experience problems where they find it difficult to control their emotions and find it difficult to truly be in a balanced mental and psychological state.

I understand that if we can focus on doing it then maybe we can minimize the possibility of significant losses a little, but sometimes humans often have difficulty holding back their emotions when they are mentally and psychologically disturbed due to experiencing losses, which means that in my opinion trading in the crypto world is far away. more difficult than regular trading in the real world, the difference is that it involves mental and psychological as well as emotions and this is why many people fail and end up experiencing MC, so trading in the real world can perhaps be used as the main income to meet your needs. life but if we talk about crypto then I think this is too risky, therefore we are always advised to have a main income in the real world if we want to get involved in the world of trading.

Never ending enhancement of your knowledge as from time to time another trader will catch up and will create his own pattern to have more winning trades, I like to follow the logic where if you are keen in keep learning the process this venue can be use as your source of income as long as you are doing your best creating your own strategy and not just rely with only one pattern but more on keep improving and keep doing your best to make sure that you are also catching up.

Whatever the improvements that's needed to cope with how the market is developing or where the market is heading you should have that adjustments and good adoptions to make it working still to earn decently.

Trading has become very popular now and all youth and generation people are easily choosing trading as their part time income source and many are becoming successful.  But trading cannot be considered as the only source of income because there are losses as well as profits. so it cannot provide a passive income. This income will never be stable.  So it cannot be considered as a source of lifetime or full time income.

Yeah not all traders will agreed with you but while there's possibility that majority of them will agree with you with what you say, not all traders will find it easy this days. trading now is very stressful to alot of traders out there,I honestly agree with some of the points you pointed out that  TRUST ISSUES DUE TO SCAM GROWTH with this point you can have an miss understanding with your fellow business partner due to LOW growth and hard economic like this.

Currently, I also see someone who meets all of life's needs just from trading income.
If we look at the uncertainty of the profits we get in trading, it is true that this cannot be our main job, but we also have to look at the overall income or profits we get and I think it can meet our needs in the long term so that in the process trading without pressure to gain fatal profits.

For a lifetime it is not possible, there are many factors that do not allow it, especially health and also changes that occur in trade that make it possible for us not to be able to follow.
Personally, I think the profits in trading are quite large and if someone can manage money well, there are quite a lot of other things or businesses that can be run from the profits from trading or run simultaneously with real life business and trading.

Also in trading, if you focus on making money on a daily basis. You are basically putting in unnecessary stress to think of. Because trading should be calm and detach from money. Once you put making money in the situation, psychology feds up and suck. So just make sure to ensure profitability, always focus on the process as oppose to be focusing on the outcome.

Definitely, you can't do your trading activity as a lifetime activity. But the profits that you will get from it, you can extend it to your lifetime by investing it in business or assets that will give you source of income later on. As the actual activity is a very tedious one, no one can do it for long time.

There are many such traders who have taken up trading as a hobby and career. Most of the day they sit in front of the monitor and watch the market candles. I have a friend who has created a separate room for trading where he conducts his trading activities with only a single door. Basically there he has three big monitors mounted on the wall and one monitor he has on the table and all the monitors have charts of the coins he will be trading and he is always waiting for an opportunity. Right now he is not doing any alternative work only depending on trading he is managing his family. If he succeeds in this way, he will not think of working and if ever he works, he will not be able to manage his activities in the same way as he is now trading while working because then there will be pressure of work. If full focus can be given to any one job then that job can be taken as a life time career.

Your friend must be a professional trader. Your friend must have good finances to meet his and his family's needs. but relying on it from trading alone, probably won't be very good. Maybe at least for now, your friend is still making a good income from his trading.
but the market will not always give traders a profit. I'm sure your friend is not only a daily trader. there are other things he does even though they are still related to crypto.

i actually think that trading cannot be used as a long-term job because it is full of uncertainty. because market conditions can change and as we get older our analysis of the market may get worse and that can have an impact on the money we trade. especially as we get older, we need a stable income that can support our lives in the future. and because of this trading may not be a wise choice as a job to earn money for older people, because they need a stable income and do not require special attention like trading.

it is always comes down to that, the uncertainty that causes mental strain, it will eventually become too exhausting for old people that has aged and just can't deal this though.
though I don't really agree with the opinion that the older we get the lacking our analysis become, but I think that could happen due to old age not wanting to get holed up seeing the market trend every day.

definitely establishing a more stable source of income is what worked for the long term, trading works only to boost our income as a side hustle and could help us build our dream business at least thats my opinion on this.
but people that are just talented in trading might consider to just reach financial independence in their young age and then invest whatever profit they've gotten which usually not some small amount since they won't reach financial independence otherwise then live with whatever there's left that they have gotten.

Yeah I think crypto should not be a full time job rather it should be a side hustle always until and unless you are financially independent enough that you can live a luxury life till death.

Actually due to uncertainty in crypto it shouldn't be your choice of a full time job neither you should be dependent on it for your daily household activities. The extra income can be a positive thing but if you'll depende on it completely then you can face repercussions.

  It depends on individual perspective, something that mister A will see as 6, mister B might be seeing it as 9 depending on each side and understanding. So one can sai that trading is not a life time job and if he or she comes up with geniun reason it might be well understood also, when they claim that it's a lifetime job, and the reasons were presented based on your understanding, it might also be taken.
   This is a case that need to be attended to with an intelligent eye.  for instance, if you say it's a lifetime job, to you, I can be able to understand you as yes, you are expressing your points base on what you feel you can do. In that case, I see no problem.


  Generally, it is not supposed to be seen as a lifetime job due to the following, lack of certainty and limited ability of the trader.
  Trading has not specific guarantee. a situation whereby a trader is just operating but not sure of what will happen in the nearest future, you see, that is seen as something related to gambling even if not gambling, they are a little bit related to some extent. Secondly, you are not even sure what time specifically the profits will be ready.
  And the trader's ability to be operating on it, is also limited.  Has he or she gets older, the strength of the body parts especially vision gets weaker. so, in general term, is not a life time job.

While trading cannot be sustainable as a lifetime job, however it’s a wise decision to see it as a side hustle. Since we cannot assure that all our trades will turn into profits, then most probably we can make it only as a side hustle that can still earn massive profits especially if you have high experiences trading in the market.

There’s no need actually to see trading as a lifetime job since you can have a real stable job that will pay you fixed amount of compensation no matter what. So don’t complicate yourself, you can stay in your own day job, and you can always continue to trade as well during your free time as long as you only decide to trade when the market is suitable to trade.

I also do not support the idea of turning trading into a full-time job and main source of income because of the fluctuations and instability it brings. But I have also seen some people succeed with that choice and I really admire when they can do such extraordinary things.

Sometimes there are things we can't do and it's really difficult for many people but that doesn't mean everyone can't do it. Personally, I used to be distrustful and suspicious of anyone who said they did nothing but trade, but sometimes we need to believe that there are people who can do it.

But I wouldn't imitate them or advise anyone to make trading their main source of income, because it's too risky and not worth the trade-off. Trading is better when we consider it a side job.

Those who are whales will not agree with you because it's a lifetime job for them, they rule the market, and they move the market. If someone else doesn't agree with you, they are hugely mistaken.

I have tried trading as a full-time job and I failed. It stressed me so much that I swear it's better to do manual labour than to watch the price of the coin going up and down 24/7 and then be stressed out about catching good moments to profit. It made me anxious and nervous, I completely changed my sleeping routine because I was always trying to keep awake until I could to control my long and short positions. Maybe bots will make trading more comfortable but I can't depend on them with my capital, I prefer to control everything myself.
You also mentioned it correctly. So many exchanges go scam, get hacked and have financial problems that it's not safe to keep your coins on exchange. It's always a wise decision to deposit on exchange, trade and then withdraw immediately.

You are wrong with your assumptions. I don't know for crypto traders but I know for sure that we have forex who took their time and trade from morning to evening and they do this everyday to make money from trading, now why do you think so or because of your questions? Alright, I will answer to best of my knowledge.

1. You are into signature campaign in this forum and you voluntarily do it so you get paid, it's stressful and yet you do it every week so you can get paid but you are here saying trading stressful. There is nothing in this life that isn't stressful, even stealing something that is not yours is stressful isn't.

2. I will still use your signature to answer this as well. Doing mandatory posts might look enjoyable but you do it any ways so you get paid, I hope I have answered this one too.

3. Your last question tells you don't understand trading. Trading is different from buying coins, what you just described is buying of coins and not trading.

If we consider trading as a long term job then during harsh conditions when we lose money then we will have no other source of money to utilise for regular duties of life. It is not necessary that you must benefit from trading therefore when you lose money then it will become hard for you to continue that work which is only possible with the amount of money that you are earning from trading.

I think if we get older then our decision will be more accurate in trading because our experience will be enhanced and we will make good decisions by utilising our expertise and knowledge. But the market never guarantees our success due to the unstable nature therefore don't trust trading but choose another opportunity to make money.

My experience told the opposite stories:
1. It is the most relaxing one. Much relaxing then doing my routine as a Youtuber. My trading strategy focus on footprint chart and the use of Point of control and Price imbalance.
2. I spend less than an hour day (around 7am-8am) to update my chart and adjust my position.
3. About scam, I worry less right now after FTX collapsed.

Op I get your points, but to me no job on earth is a life time job, be it in the civil service or even your personal businesses and investments, for civil jobs you will retire from the job and be a pensioner after serving the government for a specified number of years , or maybe you have reached retirement age.

If you own a personal business or investment someday you won't be able to take care of the day to day administration of that business and it will require you handing it over to a more capable hands in most cases your children,

Same thing applies to Trading, someday you not be able to stay on your computer all day monitoring trade,
So I will prefer you say a career job not lifetime, trading can serve as a career job, yes, just like civil service jobs and company jobs , you have to save money for the future and invest in other areas so has to have numerous sources of income.

For me trading is indeed not the main job or job that should not be made as the main income to make ends meet, but that does not mean you should not be involved in the world of trading for life, because after all it is your own choice where if for example you feel fine and have the ability in terms of managing and controlling your trading well then there is no problem if for example you want to stay involved in the world of trading until you are old.

Another thing as I said above that in my opinion what is not allowed is to make trading the only job to make ends meet because obviously one of the reasons however trading will always be a risky activity regardless of the chances of getting profit, which is what is worried about is when you are in dire need of money to make ends meet while on the other hand you even experience losses in trading for some reason, and obviously this creates problems that have an impact on the family.

If you can manage to make something decent from your side hustle, you can add those earnings for your future business ventures it can help to finance yourself while still in the first stage of your business, though sometimes there are also people who can manage to make this venue as an actual place for their money making business, those who are good in dealing with possible market movements, they are capable of having that good visions and making those good calls to make it profitable and sustain their needs.

In the beginning or early days and months of your career, you really shouldn't be expecting to make money or for consistent income in trading. Because you will be learning and consistently wrong, so your only goal is to develop a system and get in sync with the market as much as possible. But later on, trading will be easy because you already made a foundation.

As long as there is a marketplace where people are buying and selling, there will always be trading. So contrary with Op's opinion, I would say trading may be one of the hardest job but it is the most rewarding one.

Right, it means that we have to realize that we still don't have extensive experience and knowledge about trading which as you said that don't really make profit as the main priority (although that's our goal) and it's better to focus on learning anything related to trading that can give you a lesson and knowledge about how to properly seek profit in the market, and also learn various things that are useful to be used as risk management as a preventive measure so that we avoid the possibility of significant losses.

However, focusing on building a foundation from the beginning is always recommended because as you said when one already has the right and qualified foundation then the profit will also surely come by itself based on the knowledge and understanding you gained during the learning process. In the end as I said earlier above that all this does depend on each person's choice but certainly try to choose a truly wise decision, basically no one prohibits trading but try to address and treat trading from the right perspective.

Anything can be stressful if you don't know how to do it properly. I know that trading involves risks in general because you are trading in a volatile and unpredictable market, but risks can be reduced if you trade assets that are trusted and are used by most traders in the market so that you don't have the fear of getting scammed or losing your money in an asset that might be a pump-and-dump asset where you buy and then it dumps with no chances of going up again.

If a trader trades only assets that they know are trusted by doing enough research before getting into it then they will have a very low risk of losing their money and the process won't be stressful anymore. So it depends on how a person carries out their activities whether they will make it stressful or not.

It is one of the hardest job but when you get to master it, you'll have your free time to anything that you wanna do.
Time freedom is one of the best things that a trader can do and you're paying for your own time at that time when you trade.
The risk is high, the capital is yours but it's true that it's very rewarding.

I agree with you that trading is stressful.Cyptro traders time the market price 24/7 in order to make quick profits.The stress of trading affects the mental/physical state of a trader.I must also agree with you that trading isn't a lifetime job, because the old traders can't participate in trading actively because they are aged and weak.The part I'm not cleared on your trend is where you made mentioned of trust issues due to scam,like every crypto trader knows that exchanges are not safe to secure a digital asset rather digital asset are secured in a non-custodial wallet.

There will be various opinion about is trading lifetime job or not, but there is no doubt about those points you mention. Honestly trading are not enjoyable. It always gives people stress. Even sometime I can't sleep while my trading is open. What is about what will happen in next minute. Market is very unstable. besides losses very common Factor in trading. It needs experience, patient and strong mental ability to keep trading continue. So after a certain time, you mightn't go for trading.

When someone trades of course someone will always be under pressure if the decisions they make in trading cannot give them a profit and we will always wait for the results of the trading we do, if we choose trading as a lifelong job of course it will require us to I can analyze the market well and I myself find it very difficult to control my emotions when trading and I think it is difficult for me to make trading a job and make trading more of an additional income and we don't have to always trade which can make our emotions not good, of course this is will affect our health too.

I would like to think that the emotional state of any individual trader varies from person to person, such that, while one trader can learn to control their emotions during and after trade, another may be able to just do that, only when they are happy and occasionally.

Trading could be a career or a lifetime hobby that is a sure source of income and where it gets interesting is when a trader has other means of income, is a master or professional trader and is under no pressure to either trade or not.

I love trading but it's great to have another job besides trading. Because if there is other work on the day of trading loss then it is possible to cover that loss through that. Many times it is seen that if you lose in trading, it takes a long time to recover. So in that case besides trading, there should be another job from where your income will continue to come.

Valid reasons but this can all be negated with the fact that if you're making a lot of money trading and you're consistent with that way, you're probably going to not mind the stress and the burnout feeling, I mean most of them are even easily remedied by just taking a break, most of the time that's the case for burnout, you're so lost in the work/trade that you're into because you only focus on it and you end up having no other way out but to quit when all that was needed was a cooling off, think of this like a car that's close to overheating, if you let the engine run more even when the overheating is at a high possibility then you'd see it go up in flames if not stall because of overheat, that's the same thing with a person, you do something consistently and without any changes or fun inherent in that something, you're bound to burnout.

There's nothing that you can do with this but the chances that a big exchange is going to scam you isn't really that high so this is a fear that's out of place more than anything else.

I agree that trading is not a job for a lifetime. Although trading can be a profitable source of income, there are high risks and market volatility that are difficult to predict. In addition, the ability to generate consistent profits in the long term also requires a lot of knowledge and experience. Akibatnya, untuk menghindari bergantung sepenuhnya pada trading, it is essential to have a broader financial plan and diversify investments. Additionally, maintaining a balance between your personal and professional lives is also crucial. Trading can be a part of a short-term or side financial strategy, but it should not be your entire livelihood.

There should be another job because if we completely trust in trading that it will give us a regular salary then we will not be able to earn when the market goes down. Trading should be a side job and there should be a limited timing to do trading because the more we trade without knowledge the more we will be lost.

If we have another job then we will have money to do trading and if our loss becomes too much then we can stop trading and during that time we will get salary from another job until we learn completely about trading.

If a person/trader can't control their emotions during a hectic situation, I think they will also feel the same when they are profiting. Their happiness can also go through the roof. This is dangerous if they have a heart complication because there are some people who are like that who unfortunately die during the process.

Trading is risky and there is no sure income in here but a well-skilled trader can be able to recover their losses and still ends up in the green side. Being interesting can also/only depend on the attitude of the person/trader and not if they have a source of income other than trading. Same goes when it comes to experiencing a pressure.

It's a good idea, apart from trading in some of the best assets on the market, that you also try to invest in the best assets on the market in order to help yourself in the future. And if you also want to work in a field other than trading, that's perfectly acceptable for you to do as long as you can have extraordinary focus in several jobs. Because having more than one job will also disrupt our focus as workers, especially if the job itself is very different from crypto trading.

A trader must know some basics to run a trading business. If they don't know about those things then they can get bored or stressful at some point in the trading business. First of all the trader should know about this type of trading. Moreover, one should know about bearish and bullish movement in this business, especially what kind of action should be taken by the trader in between these two periods. Those who take pressure in trading business will never get good returns from this business. Patience is one of the most important aspects of success in this business. It will not be a source of annoyance if it can be enjoyed without taking it as a stress. A trader needs to prepare in advance how to handle himself in a bear market. For those who do not enjoy trading and only consider it as a source of income, it can be a stressful business.

It is actually okay to be involved in trading until retirement or until you are old, and what is not okay is to make trading your main job as I said above, because trading is a choice and everyone has the right to choose about how long they will be involved in trading as a trader, and I don't think I have to explain again about why I forbid anyone to make trading their main income in life because I said it above.

But let's remember that trading is a risky activity that can make anyone lose a certain amount of money especially when the predictions do not match the ongoing market conditions or when the market is very volatile. On the other hand yes it is true as you said that trading can be used as a financial strategy, but however as I said earlier that trading is only recommended to be used as an additional income and not the main income regardless of whether you want to be involved in trading until you are old or not.

No job isn't stressful. It depends on how to deal with the difficulty on the job. If we can deal with it, we can enjoy it without having a pressure. As long as we don't set a minimum target to reach daily, I think trading isn't very stressful job.

Sometimes, we must evaluate our trading activities. That's will help us to fix the problem in our trading. If it seems not enjoyable anymore, there should be a problem in our trading. We need to fix it soo, so we can still enjoy it. Instead of quitting trading, why don't to try fixing the problem? So we can enjoy t again.

That's why traders never store much money into exchanges. After we do trading, we can send again everything to non-custodial wallets. Also, we must be careful to choose coins for trading. If we don't trust new coins due to scams issue, we can choose top coins. I think it is only about how we do trading in a more secure way. Choose the most secure way!