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Title: Black death was not spread by rat fleas, say researchers
Post by: TheIrishman on March 30, 2014, 09:18:23 AM
Black death was not spread by rat fleas, say researchers

http://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/mar/29/black-death-not-spread-rat-fleas-london-plague (http://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/mar/29/black-death-not-spread-rat-fleas-london-plague)

"Evidence from skulls in east London shows plague had to have been airborne to spread so quickly."


Title: Re: Black death was not spread by rat fleas, say researchers
Post by: duhosnyul on March 30, 2014, 03:31:16 PM
I read this many years ago that at first the plague were spread by rat fleas but eventually the plague evolved and spread thru airborne.


Title: Re: Black death was not spread by rat fleas, say researchers
Post by: zolace on April 09, 2014, 10:18:34 AM
I was taught at school over 20 years ago that the black death was a combination of bubonic and pneumonic plagues... why is this being put forward as some sort of revelation?



Title: Re: Black death was not spread by rat fleas, say researchers
Post by: dreamspark on April 09, 2014, 10:42:30 AM
I was taught at school over 20 years ago that the black death was a combination of bubonic and pneumonic plagues... why is this being put forward as some sort of revelation?



This pretty much...

I read this and wondered where the revelation was??


Title: Re: Black death was not spread by rat fleas, say researchers
Post by: zolace on April 11, 2014, 04:53:20 PM
Yes it was contagious through the air, but it came from the contamination of rat feeces also.  I saw a documetary on it


Title: Re: Black death was not spread by rat fleas, say researchers
Post by: d2dtk on April 12, 2014, 04:18:11 AM
I did an essay/presentation on the black death and found it very interesting. That's when I learned what the meaning to the song "Ring Around the Posies". Horrible plague, if I remember correctly they had mass graves and had to burn the bodies.


Title: Re: Black death was not spread by rat fleas, say researchers
Post by: bryant.coleman on April 12, 2014, 05:25:29 AM
Yes it was contagious through the air, but it came from the contamination of rat feeces also.  I saw a documetary on it

Yes. You are right. The air became contaminated through the exposure of rat feces. Still... it is hard to believe that the disease killed 200 million people in a matter of months. That is almost 3 times the WW2 death count.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d3/Blackdeath2.gif/220px-Blackdeath2.gif


Title: Re: Black death was not spread by rat fleas, say researchers
Post by: Hazir on April 12, 2014, 05:42:13 AM
Yes it was contagious through the air, but it came from the contamination of rat feeces also.  I saw a documetary on it

Yes. You are right. The air became contaminated through the exposure of rat feces. Still... it is hard to believe that the disease killed 200 million people in a matter of months. That is almost 3 times the WW2 death count.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d3/Blackdeath2.gif/220px-Blackdeath2.gif

Wow, nice pictograf why contamination did not hit Poland? :D They have something to neutralize disease? It is weird coz it is just island free of sickness in the heart of Europe...


Title: Re: Black death was not spread by rat fleas, say researchers
Post by: bryant.coleman on April 12, 2014, 06:15:26 AM
Wow, nice pictograf why contamination did not hit Poland? :D They have something to neutralize disease? It is weird coz it is just island free of sickness in the heart of Europe...

Yes... there were three disease-free pockets. I don't know how they escaped.

1. Central Poland and Western Ukraine
2. Milan
3. Pyrennes


Title: Re: Black death was not spread by rat fleas, say researchers
Post by: Kluge on April 12, 2014, 06:54:26 AM
Wow, nice pictograf why contamination did not hit Poland? :D They have something to neutralize disease? It is weird coz it is just island free of sickness in the heart of Europe...

Yes... there were three disease-free pockets. I don't know how they escaped.

1. Central Poland and Western Ukraine
2. Milan
3. Pyrennes
After an online perusal, leading theories seem to be:
1) Luck
2) Historical inaccuracy
3) Hearing of what happened elsewhere, they managed to institute effective nation-wide quarantines of towns and individuals seeking access to highly-populated areas... in the 14th century.


Title: Re: Black death was not spread by rat fleas, say researchers
Post by: bryant.coleman on April 12, 2014, 07:09:57 AM
Here (from A Distant Mirror: The Calamitous 14th Century):

Quote
Poland established a quarantine at its frontiers which succeeded in giving it relative immunity. Draconian means were adopted by the despot of Milan, Archbishop Giovanni Visconti, head of the most uninhibited ruling family of the 14th century. He ordered that the first three houses in which the plague was discovered were to be walled up with their occupants inside, enclosing the well, the sick, and the dead in a common tomb. Whether or not owing to his promptitude, Milan escaped lightly in the roll of the dead.


Title: Re: Black death was not spread by rat fleas, say researchers
Post by: jparsley on April 12, 2014, 07:58:42 AM
Luckily this type of things dont happen these days


Title: Re: Black death was not spread by rat fleas, say researchers
Post by: randomlove on April 12, 2014, 08:01:11 AM
Because it was released by humans. One of the earliest experiments that was man made!

Since then they been trying find a 100% effective virus mostly using Ebola as the source but have yet to find it. Many people have a natural resistance to certain virus's and such so nothing is 100% effective.... Yet!

You do know how they open cells for GMA food right? Ebola virus! Real interesting stuff but blatantly should not be used for human/animal consumption. Talk about hack and slash techniques!


Title: Re: Black death was not spread by rat fleas, say researchers
Post by: bryant.coleman on April 12, 2014, 08:04:18 AM
Because it was released by humans. One of the earliest experiments that was man made!

I doubt that. Scientists say there is evidence for plague epidemics which have occurred tens of thousands of years ago. Humans weren't certainly experimenting with viruses back then.


Title: Re: Black death was not spread by rat fleas, say researchers
Post by: randomlove on April 12, 2014, 08:31:10 AM
Because it was released by humans. One of the earliest experiments that was man made!

I doubt that. Scientists say there is evidence for plague epidemics which have occurred tens of thousands of years ago. Humans weren't certainly experimenting with viruses back then.

Ibola is man made, you think they were not playing with this stuff before?

http://www.lightparty.com/Health/AidsEbola.html

People still die today but NDA contracts make it so you don't hear a out these scientists dieng from there hellish creations!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2066624/Anthrax-isnt-scary-compared-Man-flu-virus-potential-wipe-millions-created-warns-frightened-scientist.html

And that's just the stuff they let out to the msm, the truth is much MUCH darker!


Title: Re: Black death was not spread by rat fleas, say researchers
Post by: railzand on April 12, 2014, 09:00:27 AM
It was Princess Diana, from the grassy knoll, with an ice-pick.


Title: Re: Black death was not spread by rat fleas, say researchers
Post by: bryant.coleman on April 16, 2014, 02:16:57 AM
Ibola is man made, you think they were not playing with this stuff before?

Those are just rumors. Some people also think that the HIV virus was first created in a CIA laboratory. The truth is that the Ebola virus was previously confined to some extremely remote location (such as caves or gorges), which was devoid of human contact. As a result of the African population explosion, people began moving in to these locations in search of game, and they contracted the virus.


Title: Re: Black death was not spread by rat fleas, say researchers
Post by: randomlove on April 16, 2014, 04:53:23 AM
Ibola is man made, you think they were not playing with this stuff before?

Those are just rumors. Some people also think that the HIV virus was first created in a CIA laboratory. The truth is that the Ebola virus was previously confined to some extremely remote location (such as caves or gorges), which was devoid of human contact. As a result of the African population explosion, people began moving in to these locations in search of game, and they contracted the virus.

Either way, they are now trying to make it 100% effective! And they did spread HIV in Africa. They have to create reasons why you need them so they create the problems. All the problems of this world come down to us allowing a few to manipulate everything through these centralised components. That's just plain fact, we allow it!


Title: Re: Black death was not spread by rat fleas, say researchers
Post by: bryant.coleman on April 16, 2014, 06:22:00 AM
Either way, they are now trying to make it 100% effective! And they did spread HIV in Africa.

The research indicates that HIV was prevalent in Gorillas of Central Africa for hundreds of years. Humans contracted the disease after eating unclean gorilla meat. The Central African pygmies, who lived in the forests believed for many centuries that eating gorilla meat would cause misfortune. But the invading Bantu tribes had no belief in this. Why blame the West for this?


Title: Re: Black death was not spread by rat fleas, say researchers
Post by: randomlove on April 16, 2014, 06:28:59 AM
Either way, they are now trying to make it 100% effective! And they did spread HIV in Africa.

The research indicates that HIV was prevalent in Gorillas of Central Africa for hundreds of years. Humans contracted the disease after eating unclean gorilla meat. The Central African pygmies, who lived in the forests believed for many centuries that eating gorilla meat would cause misfortune. But the invading Bantu tribes had no belief in this. Why blame the West for this?

Because of what they are doing with virus's today maybe! I.e, trying to create a 100% effective virus based on Ebola. And I didn't say all west, the people doing this doesn't view boarders (farms) and don't abide to the same restrictions we have to under there centralised control. Until we remove this scorn on society we will never know the truth


Title: Re: Black death was not spread by rat fleas, say researchers
Post by: Hazir on April 16, 2014, 07:05:04 AM
By the way I heard that they found cure for AIDS. But they won't mass produce it because AIDS are mostly African and generally poor populated country sickness and they won't earn much from giving that people cure.


Title: Re: Black death was not spread by rat fleas, say researchers
Post by: bryant.coleman on April 16, 2014, 07:23:05 AM
Because of what they are doing with virus's today maybe! I.e, trying to create a 100% effective virus based on Ebola.

Bio-terrorism is a serious issue. But I don't think that they will ever succeed in creating such a virus from the HIV or the Ebola virus, because these viruses can be spread through physical contact only. They are not airborne. So the choices of using them as a weapon is pretty limited.


Title: Re: Black death was not spread by rat fleas, say researchers
Post by: randomlove on April 16, 2014, 07:31:25 AM
Because of what they are doing with virus's today maybe! I.e, trying to create a 100% effective virus based on Ebola.

Bio-terrorism is a serious issue. But I don't think that they will ever succeed in creating such a virus from the HIV or the Ebola virus, because these viruses can be spread through physical contact only. They are not airborne. So the choices of using them as a weapon is pretty limited.

Not with HIV but Ebola they are. That's what theybuse to open the cells to insert there DNA code in GMA food, Ebola virus! They don't care what side effects this as.

Its not even secret that there trying make none airbourne viruses airborne, they donenit with H5n1 which I personally think was created by someone. The official storey just doesn't seem just to me but that's my opinion. Here's 1 of many articles about them openly doing this!

http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/24425/54/

I think your finding it hardnto understand that there are cabals out there fighting for control over you, and these phycopaths care not what they do to achieve there goals!


Title: Re: Black death was not spread by rat fleas, say researchers
Post by: bryant.coleman on April 16, 2014, 08:06:53 AM
That's what theybuse to open the cells to insert there DNA code in GMA food, Ebola virus! They don't care what side effects this as.

That is highly unlikely. I don't know whether any virus can be genetically coded in to the GM food. Well.. I am not an expert in this field, so I will wait for opinion from people who are well versed in this.


Title: Re: Black death was not spread by rat fleas, say researchers
Post by: freedomno1 on April 16, 2014, 08:09:04 AM
I was taught at school over 20 years ago that the black death was a combination of bubonic and pneumonic plagues... why is this being put forward as some sort of revelation?



I feel like I read this somewhere too although the survivors of the first plague usually never got the plague again and therefore the immunity trait spread through the population over time, that said it was nasty stuff.


Title: Re: Black death was not spread by rat fleas, say researchers
Post by: Malin Keshar on April 16, 2014, 09:05:48 AM
Because it was released by humans. One of the earliest experiments that was man made!

I doubt that. Scientists say there is evidence for plague epidemics which have occurred tens of thousands of years ago. Humans weren't certainly experimenting with viruses back then.


but the aliens were


Title: Re: Black death was not spread by rat fleas, say researchers
Post by: kuroman on April 17, 2014, 02:26:03 AM
weren't death bodies were used in the past as biological weapons, they used to trow corps on castles and walls to spread the desease inside, also didn't the spannish spread them in south america and wiped original population in some regions ?


Title: Re: Black death was not spread by rat fleas, say researchers
Post by: bryant.coleman on April 17, 2014, 05:48:24 AM
weren't death bodies were used in the past as biological weapons, they used to trow corps on castles and walls to spread the desease inside, also didn't the spannish spread them in south america and wiped original population in some regions ?

The Spanish (and also the Portuguese in Brazil and the British in the US) succeeded in their crude method of bio-terrorism because their enemies (the native americans) had no immunity to Smallpox (most of the time they used corpses infected with it, although rarely they used those with Plague and Measles). It was extremely successful. Depending on the tribe, it wiped out 90% to 99% of the total population. The remainder was too sick to fight and could be cut down without much effort. This particular method is still used in Brazil, to clear the forest of wild Indians (Indios Bravos, or natives who are hostile to civilized people).


Title: Re: Black death was not spread by rat fleas, say researchers
Post by: randomlove on April 17, 2014, 07:30:40 AM
Because it was released by humans. One of the earliest experiments that was man made!

I doubt that. Scientists say there is evidence for plague epidemics which have occurred tens of thousands of years ago. Humans weren't certainly experimenting with viruses back then.


but the aliens were

The truth is stranger than fiction, Someone gets it!!!