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Title: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on December 22, 2011, 03:10:44 PM
I don't know if this is the right forum for this post, but I'm sure a lot of people will be interested with this
A new live charts - btccharts.com (http://www.btccharts.com/)
Fresh beta so don't trust too much in this, check other sources first.

This is just a start - I'm planning more features.
In the next week I will add historical depth preview.

Use Chrome, and FlashPlayer>=10.1 (11.1 suggested - faster JSON parsing)

I'm open to all suggestions, feature requests, bug reports etc
PM me or send mail (admin at btccharts.com)


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: notme on December 22, 2011, 03:19:05 PM
Dark theme... see:
http://mtgoxlive.com/orders?dark


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: ineededausername on December 22, 2011, 03:22:41 PM

In the next week I will add historical depth preview.

yay!  No more daily depth blog. :)


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: NamelessOne on December 22, 2011, 03:29:23 PM
Thanks for posting this, I like it. =)


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: kjlimo on December 22, 2011, 04:23:59 PM
It says I need flash.  Is that a common android install?  If so, I'll do th
at and check out the site.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on December 22, 2011, 05:06:55 PM
Dark theme - will do :)

For now I'm not targeting mobile devices (beside keeping CPU use to minimum)
But just checked this on my friend HTC Desire with Android (FP11.1), and it's working. Not sure if there's any live data. But this depends on browser since sockets are from JavaScript.

FP11.1 is last FP for Android, but it's very decent player so in the future there should be some dedicated version for it (other UI).


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: kjlimo on December 22, 2011, 05:23:37 PM
Dark theme - will do :)

For now I'm not targeting mobile devices (beside keeping CPU use to minimum)
But just checked this on my friend HTC Desire with Android (FP11.1), and it's working. Not sure if there's any live data. But this depends on browser since sockets are from JavaScript.

FP11.1 is last FP for Android, but it's very decent player so in the future there should be some dedicated version for it (other UI).

Not a problem.  Hopefully I'll understand what those numbers and letters you just said mean by the time the mobile version is ready :)  I just got my first smart phone 3 weeks ago.  Lots to learn!


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: yogi on December 22, 2011, 05:34:30 PM
Its great to have an alternative to mtgoxlive, its always going down.

Could you add the trades that come up on the top right of mtgoxlive.

Nice +one


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: waspoza on December 22, 2011, 10:49:57 PM
Looks very nice, good job! I like tooltips on depth lines in particular.

Small suggestion: place current price in the page title (if possible), to be visible on browser tab.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: cypherdoc on December 22, 2011, 11:50:42 PM
most ppl are interested in the total USD amount required to get to each point along the mountain from the current price level.

also current price should be centered.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bittenbob on December 23, 2011, 12:06:58 AM
I have a suggestion:

Allow users to zoom in as you can on MTgoxlive to get a look at what is going on nearer to current market prices. My problem with Mtgoxlive with this feature is that it is only at preset values. If you could input a maxium number which the graph could be zoomed to it would be more useful (10k, 20k, etc). Just my two bitcents on the matter.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on December 28, 2011, 11:14:53 PM
Added features:
 - live price on browser tab
 - scroll wheel for depth tooltip (focus flash first - just click anywhere)
 - requied BTC/USD on BID/ASK to target price

bittenbob - in two, three weeks there will be some kind of zoom

yogi - will do also


clear your browser cache to see new version


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: FreeMoney on December 29, 2011, 03:04:14 AM
(beside keeping CPU use to minimum)

Yay. Bookmarked, mtgoxlive is the suck of resources.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: mb300sd on December 29, 2011, 08:26:46 AM
Scroll wheel function doesn't work with touchpads.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: Mushoz on December 31, 2011, 02:40:19 PM
Great work! You managed to stay online even though the trading volume was huge again! Can't say the same about Mtgoxlive.com =) I'd love to see ticker data similar to Mtgoxlive if possible, though :)


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: Vandroiy on December 31, 2011, 03:01:52 PM
Hey, this looks cool. Looks like Mtgoxlive has a serious competitor. :)

Nice interface! The mouse wheel trick is neat, too.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on December 31, 2011, 03:54:05 PM
Thanks for the feedback! :)

There will be some kind of ticker (recent trades in detail). But first I'm planning to create trade volume - more important I think.

Historical depth preview will be delayed for some time (let's say 3 weeks max). There's always some more useful things to do ;)



Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: cypherdoc on December 31, 2011, 04:18:03 PM
Hey, this looks cool. Looks like Mtgoxlive has a serious competitor. :)

Nice interface! The mouse wheel trick is neat, too.

i use a MagicPad >:(

what does it do?


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: NamelessOne on January 03, 2012, 03:54:26 PM
Once again, mtgox is delayed, even clark moody is messing up for me at least, but btccharts is working just fine. We just hit 4.85 again, but you can't tell from mtgoxlive.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: BadBear on January 03, 2012, 03:59:14 PM
Hey, this looks cool. Looks like Mtgoxlive has a serious competitor. :)

Nice interface! The mouse wheel trick is neat, too.

i use a MagicPad >:(

what does it do?

If you mouseover the ask/bid lines it will show you the exact amount/price and you can scroll and it will move along the line and scroll the amount/price in a little popup box.  That's the best I can explain it anyway. 


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: Hawkix on January 03, 2012, 04:03:08 PM
BTCCharts.com is very nice, consumes less CPU for displaying compared to JavaScript version in MtGox.

I just miss the ZOOM function. Can you add it, please?


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: cloon on January 03, 2012, 04:18:27 PM
and timescale pls


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on January 03, 2012, 05:47:16 PM
zoom - yes. Order book will have price range (full!) for bids/asks. Trade - time range, but this is part of bigger thing. For now changing depth scale to this my pseudo "log scale" can do the job.
timescale - in other words you want time labels on right side (on y axis)?
orders tooltop "move" - it works also on keyboard arrows UP and DOWN

There's a really long list of features to add, stay tuned ;)


Question for linux users (12%!) - everything works?


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: BadBear on January 03, 2012, 05:50:45 PM
Wow this is nice, I like it.  Good work. 


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on January 03, 2012, 06:25:35 PM
looks like MtGox sockets (live data) are down (there's connection but no data)


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: Crypt_Current on January 03, 2012, 06:54:13 PM
ooooh and now a dark theme... (unless it was there before and i just didn't notice)
One thing i'd like to see is a big, "in-my-face" number in the upper right or somewhere indicating current price.  I like to keep it up on mah tee vee.

What did you code this in, if not javascript?


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: Otoh on January 03, 2012, 06:54:30 PM
very nice, works with Safari & I like how the historical time shows in Hours & not 100's of Minutes as on MtGox live, many thanks!


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on January 03, 2012, 07:07:00 PM
ooooh and now a dark theme... (unless it was there before and i just didn't notice)
One thing i'd like to see is a big, "in-my-face" number in the upper right or somewhere indicating current price.  I like to keep it up on mah tee vee.
Huh, well - ok, in this week :)

Quote
What did you code this in, if not javascript?
Sockets are from JavaScript (there's rather no other way).
Client - ActionScript3 (Adobe Flash).
ServerSide in python (google app engine, but maybe I will move to "normal" hosting and php).


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: Crypt_Current on January 03, 2012, 08:34:36 PM
very nice, [...] & I like how the historical time shows in Hours & not 100's of Minutes as on MtGox live, many thanks!

Indeed!

Also, let me see here... Yep, works well with Opera too :-D

So if you used ActionScript, does that mean this is actually a flash app?  Is having Flash runtime installed a requirement for this?  Or am I missing something?


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: waspoza on January 03, 2012, 08:38:28 PM
Not sure what is runtime, but im sure you need to have flash player installed.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on January 03, 2012, 08:46:10 PM
Quote from: Otoh
Also, let me see here... Yep, works well with Opera too :-D
Data is from socket.io (http://socket.io/#browser-support) which supports many browsers (thanks to flash in some way).

Quote from: Otoh
So if you used ActionScript, does that mean this is actually a flash app?
ActionScript is language of flash, so yes (there's also alternative language - haxe).

Quote from: Otoh
Is having Flash runtime installed a requirement for this?  Or am I missing something?
You must have FlashPlayer installed, and it's very unlikely that you don't have one since it's on 99% of PC/Mac.
http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplatformruntimes/statistics.displayTab3.html


....maaaan, data from mtgox is very crappy today. I'm seeing such thing first time.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: phorensic on January 04, 2012, 12:42:01 AM
Cool, this is like MtGoxLive 2.0!  New and improved.  Goes down smooth without a bitter aftertaste.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: Crypt_Current on January 04, 2012, 01:38:32 AM
ooooh and now a dark theme... (unless it was there before and i just didn't notice)
One thing i'd like to see is a big, "in-my-face" number in the upper right or somewhere indicating current price.  I like to keep it up on mah tee vee.
Huh, well - ok, in this week :)

With the quickness!  No more Mt Gox live for me!!!


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: Crypt_Current on January 04, 2012, 01:40:08 AM
btw bzzard, if you wanna accept a donation of NMC I have a bunch i'm willing to give you  :)


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on January 04, 2012, 06:24:50 PM
btw bzzard, if you wanna accept a donation of NMC I have a bunch i'm willing to give you  :)
Thanks for offer, but since I planning to make some profit from it in the future I rather stay "donation free"

And again - MtGox sockets are down...


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: phorensic on January 04, 2012, 11:53:45 PM
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This application is temporarily over its serving quota. Please try again later.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: Crypt_Current on January 04, 2012, 11:59:27 PM
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oh noes please don't make me go back to mtgoxlive


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: cypherdoc on January 05, 2012, 12:27:03 AM
2 things for your charts which i like better on mtgoxlive:

1.  once again, total USD's to reach a certain price
2.  the flashing of the trades going off in the top right of the chart.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: ineededausername on January 05, 2012, 12:32:33 AM
2 things for your charts which i like better on mtgoxlive:

1.  once again, total USD's to reach a certain price
2.  the flashing of the trades going off in the top right of the chart.

+1.  You need a USD scale and when you hover over some price, you need the BTC and USD needed to get there.  Flashing trades would also be nice.

However, I'm looking forward to your historical depth because that will be the most interesting feature.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: cypherdoc on January 05, 2012, 12:34:24 AM
2 things for your charts which i like better on mtgoxlive:

1.  once again, total USD's to reach a certain price
2.  the flashing of the trades going off in the top right of the chart.

+1.  You need a USD scale and when you hover over some price, you need the BTC and USD needed to get there.  Flashing trades would also be nice.

However, I'm looking forward to your historical depth because that will be the most interesting feature.

i'm glad at least one person got back from the bank. ;D
its lonely around here.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: Crypt_Current on January 05, 2012, 12:35:17 AM
2 things for your charts which i like better on mtgoxlive:

1.  once again, total USD's to reach a certain price
2.  the flashing of the trades going off in the top right of the chart.

you said what I thought


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: cypherdoc on January 05, 2012, 12:36:50 AM
2 things for your charts which i like better on mtgoxlive:

1.  once again, total USD's to reach a certain price
2.  the flashing of the trades going off in the top right of the chart.

you said what I thought

this is my job; figure out what ppl are thinking before they do!


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: Crypt_Current on January 05, 2012, 03:08:28 AM
2 things for your charts which i like better on mtgoxlive:

1.  once again, total USD's to reach a certain price
2.  the flashing of the trades going off in the top right of the chart.

you said what I thought

this is my job; figure out what ppl are thinking before they do!

I'm thinking mt. gox api is broken right atm


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: cypherdoc on January 05, 2012, 03:28:36 AM
2 things for your charts which i like better on mtgoxlive:

1.  once again, total USD's to reach a certain price
2.  the flashing of the trades going off in the top right of the chart.

you said what I thought

this is my job; figure out what ppl are thinking before they do!

I'm thinking mt. gox api is broken right atm

so is Bitcoinica in a red flag right now?


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on January 05, 2012, 04:10:45 AM
http://www.btccharts.com/ are back online


I guess everyone started smashing F5 button today because there was no live data, so bandwidth jumped like 400%.
I was sleeping in that time, and my free quota was out of daily limit. Now I've moved to billable mode so such situations don't have place in the future.


If you see that there's no data for more let's say 300 seconds, and refresh don't fix stuff - send request to MtGox (https://support.mtgox.com/home)
Btccharts are very popular and maybe because of that their socket api is going down. But it's in their interest to keep this up and going, because when there's no data - there's no trading. So I hope this problems will be solved in a short time.


Expect new stuff to the end of this week.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: phorensic on January 05, 2012, 05:06:40 AM
For most of this morning MtGox socketio was down.  Your site would load the history and current price on a refresh, and it would say it's connected in the upper left corner, but it was not really connected.  Every time I refreshed the page I got new data.  So I refreshed once every 10 minutes.  I'm sure other people learned this trick and then that cascaded into maxing your b/w.  Now that socketio is back up it shouldn't be a problem.

Edit: and just as I wrote that socketio on gox went down again due to volume.  Grrr.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on January 05, 2012, 05:14:23 AM
For most of this morning MtGox socketio was down.  Your site would load the history and current price on a refresh, and it would say it's connected in the upper left corner, but it was not really connected.  Every time I refreshed the page I got new data.  So I refreshed once every 10 minutes.  I'm sure other people learned this trick and then that cascaded into maxing your b/w.  Now that socketio is back up it shouldn't be a problem.
Exactly. I'm also refreshing like crazy in such situations so I have no problem when others do that ;)


Required BTC/USD to target price is back.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: cypherdoc on January 05, 2012, 05:40:52 AM
get rid of the mouse instruction pop up.  i keep a small version of your chart open and the popup window blocks much of the data.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: cypherdoc on January 05, 2012, 10:24:28 PM
ok, which chart is keeping up with the action better; mtgoxlive or btccharts?


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: Crypt_Current on January 05, 2012, 10:26:55 PM
ok, which chart is keeping up with the action better; mtgoxlive or btccharts?

btccharts is great right now... you need to be watching it right now man


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: cypherdoc on January 05, 2012, 10:52:16 PM
ok, which chart is keeping up with the action better; mtgoxlive or btccharts?

btccharts is great right now... you need to be watching it right now man

i am.  i usually keep both up but they seem to alternate which is responding to gox faster.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: cypherdoc on January 05, 2012, 10:57:54 PM
why don't you center the last price in the middle of the chart at the bottom?


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: cypherdoc on January 06, 2012, 02:24:45 AM
here's a tip:  list the daily % change in price from the previous day.  no other charting service has the decency to do this.  this is a basic data point that EVERYONE will want to see.  especially when we're getting huge gains right now.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: Crypt_Current on January 06, 2012, 02:26:39 AM
why don't you center the last price in the middle of the chart at the bottom?

No, no no, it's fine where it is!  There's nothing in the way of it there.  It could stand to be a larger size font though IMO


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: Crypt_Current on January 06, 2012, 02:27:46 AM
here's a tip:  list the daily % change in price from the previous day.  no other charting service has the decency to do this.  this is a basic data point that EVERYONE will want to see.  especially when we're getting huge gains right now.

I think bitcoincharts.com does that.  But yeah I'd like to see that too.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: cypherdoc on January 06, 2012, 03:46:39 AM
why don't you center the last price in the middle of the chart at the bottom?

No, no no, it's fine where it is!  There's nothing in the way of it there.  It could stand to be a larger size font though IMO

when its not centered, you don't get a good symmetric idea of the relative size of the bid and ask mountains as they fan out from  the price.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: Crypt_Current on January 06, 2012, 03:49:19 AM
why don't you center the last price in the middle of the chart at the bottom?

No, no no, it's fine where it is!  There's nothing in the way of it there.  It could stand to be a larger size font though IMO

when its not centered, you don't get a good symmetric idea of the relative size of the bid and ask mountains as they fan out from  the price.

Oh, I see; I misunderstood, I thought you were referring to the big-font price up at the top in the center.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: StewartJ on January 06, 2012, 03:50:39 AM
If you could make that final price font twice as big, that would be great.

I wish I could send you donations.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on January 06, 2012, 07:11:08 AM
New features:
 - big current price can be resized (see settings)
 - trade % change, time range (rollover to trade, press mouse, hold, move to other trade)
 - bigger font (12px to 14px)
 - instructions popup - you can turn this off in settings

Price position - currently this is determined by data from MtGox. In future you will be able to set $ bid/ask range manually.

Live data - MtGox socket api can't handle so many connections at this moment. Since it's quite essential and there's no official response on this case from MtGox I've decided to create some kind of sockets replacement by myself. This will take couple days to write.

Donations - the best donation is your feedback (feature request, bug report etc ) ;)


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on January 08, 2012, 02:40:36 AM
This looks like MtGox hear the voice of people and added more power!
Anyway - socketio is very strong last hour and you can see this by increased move.

Thank you MtGox!

Bad thing they don't have anyone here to talk. But maybe it's better, such "silent PR"? ;)

Looks like there's bug:
http://i.imgur.com/w7atY.jpg
Bids should be asks and asks-bids. But it depends how you interpret it.
I will leave this until next update. Maybe it should be sell/buy?

I'm currently in middle of the work on some kind of "rebroadcasting" system and it will take next couple days.
There's chance you will get live data from all exchanges no matter if they have any sockets API.


I'm thinking how to show volume, I have some ideas, but maybe you guys have some proposals, examples?


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: Crypt_Current on January 08, 2012, 03:15:42 AM
This looks like MtGox hear the voice of people and added more power!
Anyway - socketio is very strong last hour and you can see this by increased move.

Thank you MtGox!

Bad thing they don't have anyone here to talk. But maybe it's better, such "silent PR"? ;)

Looks like there's bug:
http://i.imgur.com/w7atY.jpg
Bids should be asks and asks-bids. But it depends how you interpret it.
I will leave this until next update. Maybe it should be sell/buy?

I'm currently in middle of the work on some kind of "rebroadcasting" system and it will take next couple days.
There's chance you will get live data from all exchanges no matter if they have any sockets API.


I'm thinking how to show volume, I have some ideas, but maybe you guys have some proposals, examples?

"sell/buy" for that part of it is IMO much less confusing than "ask/bid"


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: Crypt_Current on January 08, 2012, 03:19:43 AM
and yes thank you Mt. Gox for another saturday night I will have to ditch my gf ... lol XD

It would be nice if they had a PR presence on the board here at least as strong as Zhou maintains with Bitcoinica.  (Maybe they do and I just haven't noticed, in which case I humbly admit my ignorance).


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: Otoh on January 08, 2012, 03:22:26 AM
you can hedge her surley?


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: Crypt_Current on January 08, 2012, 03:23:27 AM
you can hedge her surley?

LOL even though I don't fully understand, I THINK I do, and it doesn't really matter because LOL it's funneez !!!!!   :D

To quote a typo from S3052:
"The cunt from yesterday is a viable option"  hahahaha.
(shhhhhh don't tell him I quoted that again :-X)


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: Otoh on January 08, 2012, 03:25:32 AM
sry - I meant hedge your position surely

which could sound even worse I guess


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: StewartJ on January 08, 2012, 04:43:30 AM
I just made 10 Bitcoins on BTCsportsbook.   Thank you New Orlean Saints! 

Now I can continue investing in my Satanic BTC Currency .... lets go to $8 !!!


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: StewartJ on January 08, 2012, 06:39:45 AM
I got this weird error when trying to refresh btccharts.com

"We're sorry...

... but your computer or network may be sending automated queries. To protect our users, we can't process your request right now."

What's going on? I can't seem to get the chart back.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: teflone on January 08, 2012, 06:40:39 AM
stop hitting refresh.... :D


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on January 08, 2012, 06:50:15 AM
I've blacklisted your IP. Since sockets are working just "fine and dandy" there's no need refresh ...at all.
Clear browser cache, use chrome, use latest flash player, and I'm sure you will get live data :)

Anyway, your IP are now out of the blacklist - if you have problems with live data - please contact me, or write here.

There's hard refresh every 15 minutes (all data is reloaded).


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: StewartJ on January 08, 2012, 06:57:54 AM
I've blacklisted your IP. Since sockets are working just "fine and dandy" there's no need refresh ...at all.
Clear browser cache, use chrome, use latest flash player, and I'm sure you will get live data :)

Anyway, your IP are now out of the blacklist - if you have problems with live data - please contact me, or write here.

There's hard refresh every 15 minutes (all data is reloaded).

It's working again. Will follow those browser recommendations.

Thanks!



Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: StewartJ on January 08, 2012, 07:00:03 AM
stop hitting refresh.... :D

I never "hit" refresh.  I had it on auto-refresh. Learned my lesson !!!


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: Crypt_Current on January 08, 2012, 07:02:23 AM
stop hitting refresh.... :D

I never "hit" refresh.  I had it on auto-refresh. Learned my lesson !!!

I actually LOLed at this   :)


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: Crypt_Current on January 08, 2012, 07:07:53 AM
Hey I'm using chrome to view this and it seems I DO have to refresh it occasionally... the top large-font price will update correctly, but the graphics will stop updating.  Suggestions?


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on January 08, 2012, 03:11:32 PM
Hey I'm using chrome to view this and it seems I DO have to refresh it occasionally... the top large-font price will update correctly, but the graphics will stop updating.  Suggestions?

Ok, I'm back and MtGox sockets fail again. I don't get it - yesterday they can handle very high number of connections, but today .. ?

Crypt - well, use http://mtgoxlive.com when there's no live data ;)

http://i.imgur.com/ptpO3.jpg
83 seconds from last data

usually this hovering around 0-10


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: cypherdoc on January 08, 2012, 03:41:22 PM
i still think you should place the vertex of where the bid ask mountains meet at the bottom in the middle of the chart.

all of us like to compare the total amts of money of each mountain against the other.  my eyes immediately go to both ends of the chart to compare the relative height of the bid vs ask mountains.  the ends of the chart also represent an equal difference in the price from the last price which brings symmetry and to me more information as to the buying vs selling pressure.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on January 08, 2012, 03:50:35 PM
i still think you should place the vertex of where the bid ask mountains meet at the bottom in the middle of the chart.

all of us like to compare the total amts of money of each mountain against the other.  my eyes immediately go to both ends of the chart to compare the relative height of the bid vs ask mountains.  the ends of the chart also represent an equal difference in the price from the last price which brings symmetry and to me more information as to the buying vs selling pressure.
And you are right - it's on my todo list. Just give me some time ;)


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on January 08, 2012, 09:50:48 PM
I've added 3 IP's to blacklist (refresh every minute).
You hog btccharts and mtgox - it's 2.5 MB to load and send every time.
In future I will optimize this so it wont be an issue, bit for now it's not the way you should use this service.
Blacklist will be cleared tomorrow.

If you want to be in touch with current events use btc-alert (http://btc-alert.appspot.com/)
I'm using it couple months and it to the job. Checks price every minute so it's fast.
Mail notifications works also after you close this page.

Use it with gmail notifier (http://toolbar.google.com/gmail-helper/notifier_windows.html) so you will get something like this:
http://i.imgur.com/cJ3kA.jpg


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: Crypt_Current on January 09, 2012, 03:37:23 AM
Hey I'm using chrome to view this and it seems I DO have to refresh it occasionally... the top large-font price will update correctly, but the graphics will stop updating.  Suggestions?

Ok, I'm back and MtGox sockets fail again. I don't get it - yesterday they can handle very high number of connections, but today .. ?

Crypt - well, use http://mtgoxlive.com when there's no live data ;)

http://i.imgur.com/ptpO3.jpg
83 seconds from last data

usually this hovering around 0-10

Aha, thanks...


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: Crypt_Current on January 09, 2012, 04:30:23 PM
Getting connection error again in upper right corner -- just bumping to see if it's just me or an api problem again


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on January 09, 2012, 05:59:53 PM
Getting connection error again in upper right corner -- just bumping to see if it's just me or an api problem again
api problem - I have also error since couple hours


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on January 10, 2012, 12:53:11 AM
Data rebroadcasting I was taking about is finally in a beta stage, so if you want to test this, go to this topic (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=57389.0).


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: Crypt_Current on January 10, 2012, 01:40:01 AM
Another concern I have is about btccharts.com in full-screen mode.  When I put it in full-screen in Chrome (either by the menu or by pushing F11), I cannot push F11 again to get it out of full-screen.  ESC does not work either.  The only way in Chrome is to click on the link right under where Chrome displays "Push F11 Again to Exit Full-Screen" ...  And in Firefox,

Firefox has no such link.  So when I put it in full-screen on Firefox, the only way back is to close the window and reopen it.

I hope this feedback helps improve btccharts.com -- this is the best real-time tool right now, IMO.  If you already knew about the things above, I apologize.

[EDIT:  The use of F11 to exit full-screen is only inoperative if I have clicked on some other tab / window / program since I had put it in full-screen.  It works fine if I press it, then just press it again.  I am using Windows XP (shoot me now!) if that is useful info.]


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: StewartJ on January 10, 2012, 02:44:15 AM
Another concern I have is about btccharts.com in full-screen mode.  When I put it in full-screen in Chrome (either by the menu or by pushing F11), I cannot push F11 again to get it out of full-screen.  ESC does not work either.  The only way in Chrome is to click on the link right under where Chrome displays "Push F11 Again to Exit Full-Screen" ...  And in Firefox,

Firefox has no such link.  So when I put it in full-screen on Firefox, the only way back is to close the window and reopen it.

I hope this feedback helps improve btccharts.com -- this is the best real-time tool right now, IMO.  If you already knew about the things above, I apologize.

[EDIT:  The use of F11 to exit full-screen is only inoperative if I have clicked on some other tab / window / program since I had put it in full-screen.  It works fine if I press it, then just press it again.  I am using Windows XP (shoot me now!) if that is useful info.]


Just to add to this, I noticed I cannot use Control-Tab in Firefox to shift between tabs, once I highlight over the BTCcharts tab.  Something is taking over the Firefox keyboard shortcuts in your interface/program.

Am using Firefox 5.0, Windows 7, DSL bandwidth.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: notme on January 10, 2012, 02:46:05 AM
Something is taking over the Firefox keyboard shortcuts in your interface/program.

It's called flash.  I don't know how he could avoid that without moving away from flash.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: Crypt_Current on January 17, 2012, 07:24:22 PM
hey OP do you want to add a bull and a bear on the background ? imo that can be awesome
Yeah, and they can fight more and more as the price becomes volatile, then just chill out and growl / snarl whenever the price is stagnant


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on January 17, 2012, 09:42:43 PM
...well, I'm not saying no. Who said that charts must be boring ;)
In fact, I'm thinking to do some collaboration drawing. So you can draw "this wall is soo fake", duck, ...or just boring shit like triangles and trend lines ;)


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: SgtSpike on January 17, 2012, 09:44:21 PM
Actually, a chart you can draw on, then save a screenshot of, all without pressing PrtScn, would be pretty awesome.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on January 17, 2012, 09:46:08 PM
Actually, a chart you can draw on, then save a screenshot of, all without pressing PrtScn, would be pretty awesome.
Exactly that feature - you press button, image goes to server, you got link to jpg.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: cloon on January 19, 2012, 08:40:51 AM
Just had an idea for making btccharts the best of all:

if you scroll up with your mouse, you go back in time, up the green line. the bids and asks of the time your looking at should be monitored.

like this, the user will be able to see the changes in asks and bids of history while scrolling.
the actual bid and ask (of now) could be monitored everytime with other colors.
like this it could be also possible to scroll backwards in time as much as you want.
realizable?


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on January 19, 2012, 09:16:52 AM
Just had an idea for making btccharts the best of all:

if you scroll up with your mouse, you go back in time, up the green line. the bids and asks of the time your looking at should be monitored.

like this, the user will be able to see the changes in asks and bids of history while scrolling.
the actual bid and ask (of now) could be monitored everytime with other colors.
like this it could be also possible to scroll backwards in time as much as you want.
realizable?
Realizable. In fact, I'm planning such thing :)

Lately there's no updates on btccharts but I'm working more on the server side. Client code is rewritten from scratch.
Maybe on Monday I will show something.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: BTCurious on January 19, 2012, 03:27:18 PM
It occasionally happens that the chart page loses its connection: It will state "connected last: 4000 sec" or some similar large number. Upon refresh it's fine again.

Can you make it autorefresh after 100 seconds or so? I keep looking at old data until I realize it's lost connection.

In my opinion this basic usability thing is much more important than adding new features (although the scrolling up thing sounds cool).


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: StewartJ on January 19, 2012, 03:53:38 PM
It occasionally happens that the chart page loses its connection: It will state "connected last: 4000 sec" or some similar large number. Upon refresh it's fine again.

Can you make it autorefresh after 100 seconds or so? I keep looking at old data until I realize it's lost connection.

In my opinion this basic usability thing is much more important than adding new features (although the scrolling up thing sounds cool).

It seems that some these bitcoin data apps have a problem of freezing after a while and needing to refresh.

And if you use any auto refresh tool you get suspended from their service. Would be nice to have the auto-refresh come from the program end of things.



Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on January 24, 2012, 08:42:50 AM
meh, I've accidentally uploaded files from beta version to current version. I didn't notice it, and now I'm at work so...  you guys will have to wait those 8 hours when I back home and fix this


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: BTCurious on January 24, 2012, 09:02:41 AM
Ah, so that's why it's not working :(


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on January 24, 2012, 09:38:31 AM
ok, somehow I fixed the situation from work
This is unfinished version (orderbook will get freaky after couple minutes of work).
But you can play with new features :)
There's also reconnecting.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: BTCurious on January 24, 2012, 10:07:49 AM
What new features are there?
Cheers for reconnecting :D


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on January 24, 2012, 10:21:26 AM
What new features are there?
- price range change (orderbook zoom)
 - time range change (trades zoom)
 - tooltip - number of trades, "buy"/"sell"
 - time move back
 - time since last change on order(s)
 - faster initialization (data is from new server)
 - cpu consumtion is lower (more "somooth" fell)
 - refreshing will not hurt my pocket ($) so much from now on ;)

The most important thing is that this is "rewritten from scratch" version - much more scalability.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: BTCurious on January 24, 2012, 10:47:31 AM
Ah, my chrome seems to still give me the old version, also, the dark;volumeon version even when I remove that from the URL.
Firefox seems to be all flippy.
Opera seems to be somewhat more stable, but I haven't figured out how to do the zooming/scrolling yet.

Oh well, guess I'll wait for the official release :P


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: yogi on January 25, 2012, 10:22:13 AM
I am getting a message saying 'this site requires flash'. My browser is Chrome and has latest flash installed. It was working until a few days ago, any ideas?


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on January 25, 2012, 10:24:33 AM
I am getting a message saying 'this site requires flash'. My browser is Chrome and has latest flash installed. It was working until a few days ago, any ideas?
Maybe clear cache?


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: yogi on January 25, 2012, 10:27:40 AM
Nice one, it worked.

Thanks Bzzard.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: dooglus on January 25, 2012, 05:24:22 PM
I use chromium and also had to empty the disk cache before I could see the new version.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: BTCurious on January 25, 2012, 08:50:52 PM
How do I zoom out and stuff?…


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on January 25, 2012, 08:55:19 PM
How do I zoom out and stuff?…

Use price and time range sliders:
http://i.imgur.com/XcDVR.jpg

Looks like orderbook on current version is stable.
Bad news is that reconnecting don't work so well and I'm out of ideas on this topic
(I've enabled auto-restart, but I can't find data on how to restart manually on sicket.io)


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: StewartJ on January 25, 2012, 09:00:26 PM
Just getting a white blank page after "initializing". Tried to refresh and cleared cache, to no avail.

Using Firefox 5 on Windows 7.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on January 25, 2012, 09:05:57 PM
Just getting a white blank page after "initializing". Tried to refresh and cleared cache, to no avail.

Using Firefox 5 on Windows 7.

try http://109.109.243.218/ (new server, domain will be moved soon)


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: Inaba on January 25, 2012, 09:07:54 PM
Can we get a way to remove that giant price at the top of the chart and a way to have it auto-refresh?  It doesn't seem to be refreshing for me. 

But the big price thing needs be configurable.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on January 25, 2012, 09:10:30 PM
Can we get a way to remove that giant price at the top of the chart and a way to have it auto-refresh?  It doesn't seem to be refreshing for me.  

But the big price thing needs be configurable.
You can control size of big price with:
http://i.imgur.com/ocZYy.jpg

When it comes to refresh - I have no idea how to improve socket.io beside what I've done so far.

If you want to manually refresh then go to http://109.109.243.218/
Let's say couple times on minute will be good on me ;)


I'm working now on auto-refresh by normal http, every 30sec socket silence.
Possible this will be done today but that depends when I get sleepy ;)


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: StewartJ on January 25, 2012, 09:12:22 PM
Just getting a white blank page after "initializing". Tried to refresh and cleared cache, to no avail.

Using Firefox 5 on Windows 7.

try http://109.109.243.218/ (new server, domain will be moved soon)

That worked!  Thanks bzzard.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: Inaba on January 25, 2012, 09:17:06 PM
Wow thanks, I didn't even notice that... perfect!

The auto refresh seems to be working now... maybe it was my connection.  Nice work!


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: BTCurious on January 25, 2012, 09:32:23 PM
How do I zoom out and stuff?…

Use price and time range sliders:
http://i.imgur.com/XcDVR.jpg

Looks like orderbook on current version is stable.
Bad news is that reconnecting don't work so well and I'm out of ideas on this topic
(I've enabled auto-restart, but I can't find data on how to restart manually on sicket.io)
Oooh, that's very nice! (So subtle I didn't see it :P)


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: cloon on January 25, 2012, 10:33:58 PM
Really great work!
can you make the bids and asks change while using time back too?


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: pirateat40 on January 25, 2012, 10:34:51 PM
I don't see the trace lines anymore.  I'm lost without those little guys.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on January 25, 2012, 10:40:45 PM
I don't see the trace lines anymore.  I'm lost without those little guys.
Couple days and ghost lines will be back.

Bid/ask change on time move is in my plans, but I can't tell when you will see this.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bb113 on January 26, 2012, 04:13:29 AM
Can you display the current number of users connected ala Mt. Gox live? A history of this would also be useful...


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on January 26, 2012, 10:31:56 AM
Can you display the current number of users connected ala Mt. Gox live? A history of this would also be useful...
I don't think I can get access to this data.

Please don't use http://109.109.243.218/ for the next couple hours - there's something wrong.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on January 29, 2012, 11:01:29 PM
I just moved domain to new server. In next 24h you will be redirected to http://109.109.243.218/  then normal domain should work.

I added new "HTTP updater" - this will be enabled when there's no live data from MtGox. Updater will load recent changes every 50 seconds. I know 50 seconds is a lot of time ;)  but I must check first how server handle this - then it will likely lower this timeout.

Next step will be adding some kind of live data from my server.
Other exchanges will also get live data (10 sec max delay) in future.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: Vandroiy on January 30, 2012, 12:21:57 AM
Cool. A fallback updater, that's how it's done!

Good job! :)


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: BTCurious on January 30, 2012, 01:09:14 AM
btccharts was my favorite chart. Now it's my even favoriter chart.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: old_engineer on February 13, 2012, 11:12:21 PM
Great service!  Do you have a donation address?  I had a 20 btc bank error in my favor, and I'll donate the proceeds to you.

For what it's worth, I'd love to see a slider to view the historical order book. Were I you, I'd implement this by saving the order book to a table as a set of points, one datapoint per penny, to reduce storage and data transfer requirements.  This would result in 1000 datapoints between $0.01 and $10.00, and saved every 1 minute would be 1000 points * 4 bytes (order book quantity) * 7200 minutes = 29 megabytes/day, 10 gigabytes per year.  Seems a reasonable start.  Better yet would be to store and send to client in a compressed format given the lack of data randomness. Historical charts more than, say, 24 hours in the past could be a premium service you could offer for 0.5 btc per month.  Keep it in the $2-$3 USD range, and you'll get a few dozen subscribers that might help you break even on bandwidth costs.  My 2 bitcents.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on February 14, 2012, 12:04:15 AM
I don't take any donation because this service will be not free in near future (at least all features), so I will get this BTC anyway ;)

Thanks for the tip, I will think about this. Historical depth was in my near plans month ago, but then mtgox api started to freak out so I've decided to fix that problem first and I'm working on it to this day. At this weekend I was planning to add mtgox socket.io rebroadcasting (if at least one person have live data - everyone will get this), but I've got sick so I will add this in next weekend.

In next month I'm changing my job from full time to half time, so this will grow faster :)


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bb113 on February 14, 2012, 02:38:03 AM
The one thing I'd like to see most is the recent sales. This is usually the only reason I would have mtGox Live, or clark moody open.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: old_engineer on February 14, 2012, 07:23:49 AM
Alright, I'll save it to give to you later.  I think the Goxxing API should be zhoutanged. :)


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on February 15, 2012, 12:21:45 AM
Little update:

There was bug with not updating recent trades. Quite rare, and I'm not sure if I spotted the correct reason, but if your trades will stop updating for couple minutes then give me sign on PM so I will work on this more. Thanks to RyNinDaCleM for reporting this :)

New feature - auto time range while changing the price range:
http://i.imgur.com/dcgft.jpg

Plus some performance improvements.

Recent trades in detail - this should be in next 3 weeks.

To update - open site and refresh. If this not help - clear cache.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: phorensic on February 21, 2012, 10:12:02 PM
What is the third data method listed in the upper right called BCsocket?


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on February 21, 2012, 10:22:15 PM
It's connection with btccharts.com socket server. For now it just count online users. After this weekend this should also rebroadcast data from mtgox socket. And later will be used for things like chat.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: RyNinDaCleM on February 21, 2012, 10:26:24 PM
Little update:

There was bug with not updating recent trades. Quite rare, and I'm not sure if I spotted the correct reason, but if your trades will stop updating for couple minutes then give me sign on PM so I will work on this more. Thanks to RyNinDaCleM for reporting this :)

New feature - auto time range while changing the price range:
http://i.imgur.com/dcgft.jpg

Plus some performance improvements.

Recent trades in detail - this should be in next 3 weeks.

To update - open site and refresh. If this not help - clear cache.

Your chart is really improving. I like the latest features added, and the http updater makes a huge difference when none of the other orders site are working. Not real time but at least it updates.

And,+1 on the execution ticker. IMO it's the only thing missing now. I can't wait!  :)

Thank you for your extensive work!


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: Mushoz on February 21, 2012, 11:17:57 PM
Is there a "reset to defaults" button somewhere? I tried refreshing, but that's not working :( Would be a welcome addition for me, and of course the live ticker ;) Great job so far, this might completely replace Mtgoxlive soon for me!


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: phorensic on February 22, 2012, 04:43:09 AM
It's connection with btccharts.com socket server. For now it just count online users. After this weekend this should also rebroadcast data from mtgox socket. And later will be used for things like chat.
Is the rebroadcast idea to lessen the load (number of connections) on Gox?  If so, that might be a great idea.  You could advertise and push people to use your rebroadcast of socket.io and since you don't have to focus on other things like Gox does you could tune performance and keep it stable.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on February 22, 2012, 11:26:53 AM
It's connection with btccharts.com socket server. For now it just count online users. After this weekend this should also rebroadcast data from mtgox socket. And later will be used for things like chat.
Is the rebroadcast idea to lessen the load (number of connections) on Gox?  If so, that might be a great idea.  You could advertise and push people to use your rebroadcast of socket.io and since you don't have to focus on other things like Gox does you could tune performance and keep it stable.
My assumption is that almost always there's some btccharts client with good mtgox socket connection. Every client will be reporting to server on this connection status. Max 3 clients with good connection will be sending to btccharts socket server data from mtgox socket, and then this will be rebroadcasted to clients that reports bad connection.
So the answer is no - still all clients will be connected. This will increase the chance to get at least one with good connection.
In future maybe I will talk with mtgox on some dedicated socket for my server, so btccharts don't use mtgox, so there's less connections, so this will be more stable for others.

Mushoz - currently there's no restart of settings. But you can do that by cleaning flash cookies:
 - press right mouse button
 - select settings
 - select local storage tab
 - decrease slider to 0KB, "OK", "close"
 - restart page and click "allow"


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on March 04, 2012, 03:17:03 AM
It took some time ;) but there you got it - rebroadcasting (details is prev post).
I'm not sure if server can handle this, but let's see.
Now you can get live data on any browser that support flash (check out IE ;) ).

From other changes there's:
 - faster initialization
 - online people counter count multiple opened clients on one system as one


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bb113 on March 04, 2012, 03:28:51 AM
Another good feature would be to show the past volume binned according to the time range. Sometimes big price changes in the past were just due to wide spreads and .01 btc trading back and forth. A bar chart could come horizontally off the y axis (maybe move the depth axis label to the right side) or maybe there could be a heat cloud around the price history. Or the price history could be color coded itself.

I have no idea how difficult this stuff is so...


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on March 04, 2012, 03:38:02 AM
Another good feature would be to show the past volume binned according to the time range.
Do you know you can do such thing:
http://i.imgur.com/WMSzK.jpg

?


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bb113 on March 04, 2012, 03:43:50 AM
Ah, I never used that, awesome. I still think it would be better to see the distribution of the volume history though.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bb113 on March 04, 2012, 03:46:18 AM
Your charts are awesome by the way. Do you take donations? Maybe not, I think I saw somewhere that you planned to charge eventually.

nm, it was on this page.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on March 04, 2012, 04:04:35 AM
Ah, I never used that, awesome. I still think it would be better to see the distribution of the volume history though.
That's also my opinion :) So some day I will come with some volume visualization.

When it comes to charging for using btccharts - for now I'm planning to start in next month or two. There still will be free service, but without all this funky features. Price - 0.5btc for a month (at start, this will be changing).


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: BTCurious on March 06, 2012, 05:55:09 PM
Sometimes the orderbook gets "stuck", while the price continues to update. I'm not sure what causes it.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on March 06, 2012, 06:20:32 PM
Sometimes the orderbook gets "stuck", while the price continues to update. I'm not sure what causes it.
Something wrong is going on and I'm on it. Mtgox socket is providing wrong data or btccharts processing it wrong...


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: BTCurious on March 06, 2012, 08:32:57 PM
Sometimes the orderbook gets "stuck", while the price continues to update. I'm not sure what causes it.
Something wrong is going on and I'm on it. Mtgox socket is providing wrong data or btccharts processing it wrong...
Refreshing fixes it, so unless the flash page has a direct connection to mtgox, it must be something with btccharts, I guess? Not sure how it works technologically.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on March 06, 2012, 10:04:25 PM
I've added hard refresh of orderbook every minute. Looks like mr power-of-two is gone, for now at least ;)
Let's see if whats's response from mtgox in this case.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: BTCurious on March 06, 2012, 10:44:17 PM
I've added hard refresh of orderbook every minute. Looks like mr power-of-two is gone, for now at least ;)
Let's see if whats's response from mtgox in this case.
/me refreshes page
Sounds good. I'll let you know if I find anything else.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on March 13, 2012, 08:01:35 PM
New feature - recent sales:
 - range from 1 to 60 minutes since last trade
 - to change time range use "sales range" slider
 - bold line will show you where oldest sales end
 - to see sales in specific time range just drag'n'drop as usual on trades line

And little info about MtGox live api status. Today just after big up all connection was gone. Then all back to life after hour. And to this time number of connections is getting lower. Currently 30% peoples got mtgox live connection, all other use my socket "echo" service. I hope this don't drop to 0 ;)

Also after big up Mr. Power-of-two was messing today with orderbook (this time ask side). BTCCharts is still refreshing from http api every minute so his effort is quite useless ;)  MtGox is still is saying there's no problem.

edit: ok, and mtgox live api connection is back for everyone


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: SkRRJyTC on March 13, 2012, 10:12:34 PM
New feature - recent sales:
 - range from 1 to 60 minutes since last trade
 - to change time range use "sales range" slider
 - bold line will show you where oldest sales end
 - to see sales in specific time range just drag'n'drop as usual on trades line

And little info about MtGox live api status. Today just after big up all connection was gone. Then all back to life after hour. And to this time number of connections is getting lower. Currently 30% peoples got mtgox live connection, all other use my socket "echo" service. I hope this don't drop to 0 ;)

Also after big up Mr. Power-of-two was messing today with orderbook (this time ask side). BTCCharts is still refreshing from http api every minute so his effort is quite useless ;)  MtGox is still is saying there's no problem.

edit: ok, and mtgox live api connection is back for everyone

So good... you combined all the best parts of the other charting services I used to use


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: Mushoz on March 13, 2012, 10:20:21 PM
New feature - recent sales:
 - range from 1 to 60 minutes since last trade
 - to change time range use "sales range" slider
 - bold line will show you where oldest sales end
 - to see sales in specific time range just drag'n'drop as usual on trades line

And little info about MtGox live api status. Today just after big up all connection was gone. Then all back to life after hour. And to this time number of connections is getting lower. Currently 30% peoples got mtgox live connection, all other use my socket "echo" service. I hope this don't drop to 0 ;)

Also after big up Mr. Power-of-two was messing today with orderbook (this time ask side). BTCCharts is still refreshing from http api every minute so his effort is quite useless ;)  MtGox is still is saying there's no problem.

edit: ok, and mtgox live api connection is back for everyone

Omg, omg, omg! This is perfect! Thank you so very much for this :)! A button to reset the settings to default and this thing's complete IMO :)


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: SkRRJyTC on March 20, 2012, 06:46:44 PM
Anyone else having issues in the last day or so with the depth not redrawing itself and needed a page refresh?


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: Crypt_Current on March 20, 2012, 08:26:53 PM
Anyone else having issues in the last day or so with the depth not redrawing itself and needed a page refresh?

It's been working like a charm for me during the recent volatility, even with my janky wireless connection...
This is the best free service since food stamps  :D


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: Posidon on March 20, 2012, 08:36:22 PM
Anyone else having issues in the last day or so with the depth not redrawing itself and needed a page refresh?

Yes, I had a few issues last night with this.  I haven't noticed it today, but I haven't been watching it that closely either.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on March 20, 2012, 09:57:55 PM
There's a chance for this if you guys have old version and browser don't updated flash files for some reason.
Since couple days depth is only from my sockets so this should work ...like a charm ;)
Let me know if this problem persists.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: SkRRJyTC on March 20, 2012, 10:23:39 PM
There's a chance for this if you guys have old version and browser don't updated flash files for some reason.
Since couple days depth is only from my sockets so this should work ...like a charm ;)
Let me know if this problem persists.

Any suggestions besides closing the browser/restarting?


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on March 20, 2012, 10:24:52 PM
There's a chance for this if you guys have old version and browser don't updated flash files for some reason.
Since couple days depth is only from my sockets so this should work ...like a charm ;)
Let me know if this problem persists.

Any suggestions besides closing the browser/restarting?
Do you see online peoples counter? Is it changing?

What browser, OS, flash version do you have?


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: SkRRJyTC on March 20, 2012, 10:31:37 PM
There's a chance for this if you guys have old version and browser don't updated flash files for some reason.
Since couple days depth is only from my sockets so this should work ...like a charm ;)
Let me know if this problem persists.

Any suggestions besides closing the browser/restarting?
Do you see online peoples counter? Is it changing?

What browser, OS, flash version do you have?

Chrome 17.0.963.79 m , Win7, flash version 11.1.102.63

Online peoples counter is changing

Seems to be better now... was happening last night are ~ 6 hours ago today.

EDIT happening again


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: Posidon on March 21, 2012, 12:46:01 AM
Quote

Chrome 17.0.963.79 m , Win7, flash version 11.1.102.63

Online peoples counter is changing

Seems to be better now... was happening last night are ~ 6 hours ago today.

EDIT happening again

Happening again to me too.

Chrome: 17.0.963.79
Win 7
Flash version: 11.1.102.63

Edit:  Online counter is working.  I can see buys/sales going through, but they don't move the chart.  If i refresh the page everything comes back to life.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: finway on March 21, 2012, 02:43:02 AM
Just want to say, this site rocks.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: RyNinDaCleM on March 23, 2012, 12:23:53 AM

And to this time number of connections is getting lower. Currently 30% peoples got mtgox live connection, all other use my socket "echo" service. I hope this don't drop to 0 ;)


Goxlive is horrible anymore with the CPU usage! I would swear they are mining on my shit!  :D
It makes my whole computer slow, and the only way for me to keep Gox running is on chrome (affinity set to one core), with everything else on Firefox.  ::)


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: guruvan on March 23, 2012, 02:38:23 AM
lol, that's so bad on my machine, I use a second just for that.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on March 24, 2012, 11:17:58 PM
I've implemented auto update - when there's new version you will be asked to refresh page, or page will refresh itself (depends on browser).
Current version should be broken so please update (for the last time ;) ).


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: cloon on March 25, 2012, 01:07:58 PM
can u please make the time range longer (up to one week)?


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: cypherdoc on March 25, 2012, 07:10:05 PM
whats the new red/green bar on the right indicate?


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: Mushoz on March 25, 2012, 07:20:17 PM
whats the new red/green bar on the right indicate?

All the trades that have been made in the last X minutes, where X is the number set at "Sales range". Green trades have been buys, red ones have been sells. Trades at the bottom are the most recent trades.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: cypherdoc on March 25, 2012, 09:03:22 PM
whats the new red/green bar on the right indicate?

All the trades that have been made in the last X minutes, where X is the number set at "Sales range". Green trades have been buys, red ones have been sells. Trades at the bottom are the most recent trades.

thanks.  where can i see the Sales Range?


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: Mushoz on March 25, 2012, 09:07:33 PM
whats the new red/green bar on the right indicate?

All the trades that have been made in the last X minutes, where X is the number set at "Sales range". Green trades have been buys, red ones have been sells. Trades at the bottom are the most recent trades.

thanks.  where can i see the Sales Range?

Hover your mouse over the tiny little + in the top-left corner.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: BTCurious on March 27, 2012, 01:07:14 PM
can u please make the time range longer (up to one week)?
Yeah, this would be nice.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: ineededausername on March 27, 2012, 01:12:04 PM
can u please make the time range longer (up to one week)?
Yeah, this would be nice.

seconded.jpg


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on March 27, 2012, 07:13:11 PM
can u please make the time range longer (up to one week)?
Yeah, this would be nice.

seconded.jpg
k, get it ;)

For now I can't just change the parameters because this service is not prepared for such amounts of data.
Of course this will get high priority on my todo list.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: ineededausername on March 29, 2012, 09:25:16 PM
Proposal: Add logarithmic option for price axis.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on March 30, 2012, 09:27:48 AM
Proposal: Add logarithmic option for price axis.
That would be rather too weird and problematic. But I'm planning windows system (like in eclipse), so you can have one window with big price range and one with small.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: BTCurious on March 31, 2012, 11:22:09 AM
Proposal: Add logarithmic option for price axis.
That would be rather too weird and problematic. But I'm planning windows system (like in eclipse), so you can have one window with big price range and one with small.
Well, it wouldn't really be weird, think something like this:
http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/chart.png?width=500&height=100&m=mtgoxUSD&SubmitButton=Draw&r=60&i=6Hourly&c=0&s=&e=&Prev=&Next=&t=S&b=&a1=&m1=10&a2=&m2=25&x=0&i1=&i2=&i3=&i4=&v=1&cv=0&ps=0&l=1&p=0&

It makes sense really, it's just that personally I have the price range set small enough that it doesn't really make a difference to me.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on April 04, 2012, 09:36:26 AM
Question - I'm in the process of connecting with other exchanges and some of them don't have trade type (sell/buy), just volume numer. CampBX is support saying that "There is no Buy/sell type info, because we report balanced, sub-transaction level data".
I can just show this trades with such "anonymous" volume, but maybe It's just exchange fault that there's no such data, therefore I should say "no trade type - no data on btccharts"?


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: P_Shep on April 05, 2012, 06:16:18 PM
Can you add the price future?

Thanks.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on April 05, 2012, 06:21:50 PM
Can you add the price future?
It's already there, just change your system clock to desired future time.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: SkRRJyTC on April 05, 2012, 10:06:24 PM
Can you add the price future?
It's already there, just change your system clock to desired future time.

Holy shit... I think this works...


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on April 09, 2012, 10:55:44 PM
From now on you can watch most popular exchanges live :)
To change exchange press exchange name on top right corner.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: RyNinDaCleM on April 09, 2012, 11:05:38 PM
Mine is all jacked up!
Says $4.00, with .50 swings.
And the depth is about 1900BTC to $2.00.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on April 09, 2012, 11:11:05 PM
Mine is all jacked up!
Says $4.00, with .50 swings.
And the depth is about 1900BTC to $2.00.
What market? Any screenshot?


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: beardman on April 09, 2012, 11:16:26 PM
Mine is all jacked up!
Says $4.00, with .50 swings.
And the depth is about 1900BTC to $2.00.
What market? Any screenshot?

http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/4870/13601121.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/594/13601121.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)


Edit: seemingly goes crazy at the same time the price jumps up 5 cents?


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on April 09, 2012, 11:36:19 PM
beardman, RyNinDaCleM - this is how BTCe BTC/USD looks right now, I don't see any errors


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: beardman on April 09, 2012, 11:37:24 PM
hahahahahahaha seams someone dint see that changes on the exchange list and did buy allot of coins
btc-e is the best  ;D OP can u set that the default

Haha, wooow... Here I was concocting conspiracy theories in my head about manipulators, and its just new features.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: P_Shep on April 09, 2012, 11:54:14 PM
...4.80 4.85 4.90 4.95 4.00 5.05...

Hmmm.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on April 10, 2012, 12:09:46 AM
...4.80 4.85 4.90 4.95 4.00 5.05...
fixed

EDIT: ...or not! :D


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: beardman on April 10, 2012, 12:10:52 AM
...4.80 4.85 4.90 4.95 4.00 5.05...
fixed

Its now 4.40 5.45 5.5 etc up to 5.00


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: P_Shep on April 10, 2012, 12:12:14 AM
5.80 5.85 5.90 5.95 5.00 5.05

Yeah, no quite fixed yet :)


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: FreeMoney on April 10, 2012, 12:17:27 AM
How does that even happen?


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on April 10, 2012, 12:20:08 AM
fixed - number rounding problems


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: P_Shep on April 10, 2012, 12:23:15 AM
That's better :)


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: RyNinDaCleM on April 10, 2012, 01:37:32 AM
Yeah! I read about the new features. Seems I didn't realize BTCex was default. I switched to GoxLive to confirm, and thought it was a bug. I switched back just now, and saw in the address bar that it said */#m=btcex-BTC-USD... Was like, Oooohh.
Oops! It's all good now.

No, I did NOT make that spike a couple hours ago!  :P


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bb113 on April 10, 2012, 02:11:49 AM
FYI, symbols are mixed up if I hover cursor over asks. It'll read something like "required $289 (1,200B) to $4.87".


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on April 10, 2012, 02:28:08 AM
FYI, symbols are mixed up if I hover cursor over asks. It'll read something like "required $289 (1,200B) to $4.87".
oh, thanks - fixed


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: notme on April 10, 2012, 10:59:25 PM
Feature Request:
All Markets->Select Currency->Awesome!


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: SkRRJyTC on April 10, 2012, 11:08:22 PM
Feature Request:
All Markets->Select Currency->Awesome!

Are the currently any other services that offer this function?  Sounds neat.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: teflone on April 10, 2012, 11:22:02 PM
THANK YOU FOR VIRTEX!!!!!!

 ;D


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: Stephen Gornick on April 13, 2012, 02:14:36 PM
BitFloor has an API.  Would like to see an option for their BTC/USD chart.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on April 13, 2012, 02:22:29 PM
BitFloor has an API.  Would like to see an option for their BTC/USD chart.
Their api don't have a historical trades. I will add bitfloor as soon as they add this (I'm in contact with them - they working on it).


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bb113 on April 14, 2012, 05:16:57 AM
http://i39.tinypic.com/29kwd93.png

Tinypic CAPTCHA: Check your work


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on April 15, 2012, 05:30:19 AM
bitcoinbitcoin113 - fixed


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on April 16, 2012, 04:46:26 AM
Quote
BTC/USD
last trade 3h 11m
last order 3h 12m
48 online
yes, with all this new exchanges, service is unstable and need manual restart after day or two
I'm working on this issue


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: mav on April 18, 2012, 01:24:52 AM
just a small thing, but when I put my mouse over the volume and it shows the list of orders, then I use the scrollwheel, the range only goes lower, not higher.

Can scrolldown = show lower price volume and scrollup = show higher price volume

At the moment both mouse scroll directions do the scrolldown function.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on April 18, 2012, 07:57:20 AM
yeah, but just to be more compatible with some new stuff on the server-side
let's see if this will get more stable ;)

mav - for me scroll works both ways
scroll can't work if you are on the edge of bid or ask - there's no jump between them


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on April 21, 2012, 12:35:32 AM
new stuff:
 - couple new markets
 - changing price and time range by drag'n'drop (bottom, and right area)
 - changing market by pressing space
 - there's ...another good change this will get more stable


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: RyNinDaCleM on April 21, 2012, 01:36:13 AM
new stuff:
 - couple new markets
 - changing price and time range by drag'n'drop (bottom, and right area)
 - changing market by pressing space
 - there's ...another good change this will get more stable

That's awesome!  :)


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: adamstgBit on April 21, 2012, 01:38:24 AM
new stuff:
 - couple new markets
 - changing price and time range by drag'n'drop (bottom, and right area)
 - changing market by pressing space
 - there's ...another good change this will get more stable

That's awesome!  :)

Yaye VirtEx!

thank you


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: RyNinDaCleM on April 21, 2012, 01:40:46 AM
new stuff:
 - couple new markets
 - changing price and time range by drag'n'drop (bottom, and right area)
 - changing market by pressing space
 - there's ...another good change this will get more stable

That's awesome!  :)

Yaye VirtEx!

thank you

That is one whacked ass chart!


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: adamstgBit on April 21, 2012, 01:54:02 AM
new stuff:
 - couple new markets
 - changing price and time range by drag'n'drop (bottom, and right area)
 - changing market by pressing space
 - there's ...another good change this will get more stable

That's awesome!  :)

Yaye VirtEx!

thank you

That is one whacked ass chart!

Electricity is cheep here. this keeps are bitcoin price low  :D


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: teflone on April 21, 2012, 02:29:00 AM
SLICK!

Love it, my new favorite


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bb113 on April 21, 2012, 07:27:02 AM
It is slick, and keeps offering all features asked for... but the lag is killing me. I see what I do on clark moody/ mtgoxlive minutes before on btccharts now. It started after the multiple exchanges.

I have no place in criticizing such a great creation, but if it lags... how can I use it?


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on April 21, 2012, 11:37:39 AM
It is slick, and keeps offering all features asked for... but the lag is killing me. I see what I do on clark moody/ mtgoxlive minutes before on btccharts now. It started after the multiple exchanges.

I have no place in criticizing such a great creation, but if it lags... how can I use it?
Criticizing is very welcome!

Currently live data is in 100% from HTTP API. This on the server side, but you getting this by sockets so you will get 0-12 seconds delay (since I can't load data more frequently than 10 seconds). I've watched this today and this is true when you talking about trades. Orders, on the other hand, are getting lag from couple seconds to a 2 minutes.

Why orderbook is getting lag? I don't know. Maybe it's something on my side, and maybe mtgox http api is lagged. I will research this topic and give you answer later.

There's of curse question why I no longer use socket.io api?

Orderbook - no way I'm back to this crap! I've spend tons of time trying to fix this and I'm done. I think it's not mtgox fault, it's just technology - socket.io.
Intersango is having problems (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=76065), and other folks also (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5855.msg810749#msg810749), and this is the effect of using socket.io for orderbook (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67578.msg786318), and I've got test that prove that.
I will talk some day with MtGox on getting some socket data to my server by a normal socket so I can rebroadcast it.

Trades - it will be back in a couple days. Intersango should also get data from their old socket (it's just normal socket so I guess it will be stable).


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on April 21, 2012, 11:31:13 PM
Turns out full depth api is lagged, but when I load old 20% range depth, it's much more current.
So I've made some merging of those two and so far it works fine - 0-12 sec delay (in range +/- 20% from current price).


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bb113 on April 22, 2012, 05:55:16 PM
Works much better, awesome.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: BTCurious on April 26, 2012, 10:28:23 AM
I experienced it getting stuck as well.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on April 26, 2012, 10:53:50 AM
yes, yes, sorry for that - I'm on it
this service is just crashing with no errors so I must try new things
there's new version - let's see how long this will last


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: BTCurious on April 27, 2012, 09:23:33 PM
just run one exchange like before


crashed once again
Just use fiat like before.

i.e., don't get annoyed at updates, they make things better in the long run.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on May 06, 2012, 11:03:05 AM
Today I will be moving to new server (@ bitsforcoins.com), so in the next 24h you can experience some problems.

This time much more CPU power and memory (latest services down was caused by lack of memory). It's quite expensive but btccharts will be still free for month or two.

In the mean time I'm working on layout engine, so you can have multiple exchanges on one page (something like UI in Eclipse).


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: BTCurious on May 06, 2012, 11:05:34 AM
Do you have an idea about how much your future subscription will cost?


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on May 06, 2012, 11:06:47 AM
Do you have an idea about how much your future subscription will cost?
5$ or 1BTC /mo (not sure about currency)


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: FreeMoney on May 06, 2012, 06:17:15 PM
Do you have an idea about how much your future subscription will cost?
5$ or 1BTC /mo (not sure about currency)

Really? You don't know if you'll accept btc? I must be misunderstanding.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: Mushoz on May 06, 2012, 06:27:04 PM
Do you have an idea about how much your future subscription will cost?
5$ or 1BTC /mo (not sure about currency)

Really? You don't know if you'll accept btc? I must be misunderstanding.

I think he's not sure if he's going with 1 BTC per month, or with 5$ worth of BTC per month.
At least that's how I understand him. I doubt he's not going to accept BTC for his service, don't worry ;)


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: Zotia on May 07, 2012, 03:09:25 PM
www.btccharts.com has not worked since the move
btccharts.com works just fine, though


I was trying to access the site by typing "chart" into FireFox's address bar, and www.btccharts.com shows up since that is the URL that I first used.


I wondered why nobody else was posting about it being down.   ;D


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on May 07, 2012, 03:45:23 PM
www.btccharts.com has not worked since the move
btccharts.com works just fine, though
Oh, I forgot one line on DNS settings, now it's working.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: SkRRJyTC on May 31, 2012, 03:56:53 PM
Anyone else having issues today with btccharts not updating?  I started having issues right after the phantom spike to 5.18 this morning around 9 am EST.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on May 31, 2012, 04:01:09 PM
Anyone else having issues today with btccharts not updating?  I started having issues right after the phantom spike to 5.18 this morning around 9 am EST.
fixed


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: SkRRJyTC on May 31, 2012, 04:05:25 PM
Anyone else having issues today with btccharts not updating?  I started having issues right after the phantom spike to 5.18 this morning around 9 am EST.
fixed

Confirmed working.  Thanks!


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bb113 on June 15, 2012, 06:35:36 PM
I see 305 online watching mt gox USD. Is this a record?


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: nimnul on June 15, 2012, 06:57:52 PM
315


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: BTCurious on June 15, 2012, 08:01:34 PM
I see 305 online watching mt gox USD. Is this a record?
Both mtgoxlive and clarkmoody went belly-up. You could only see the rally on btccharts and #bitcoin-market :)


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: nimnul on June 15, 2012, 08:02:14 PM
and on bitcoin-analytics.com


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on June 15, 2012, 11:30:07 PM
I see 305 online watching mt gox USD. Is this a record?
Sorry, only a bug - fixed.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: cypherdoc on June 16, 2012, 02:25:07 AM
why doesn't your chart work in Chrome on Lion Mac OSX?


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: proudhon on June 16, 2012, 03:33:25 AM
why doesn't your chart work in Chrome on Lion Mac OSX?

It does.

http://i48.tinypic.com/168y5jr.png


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on June 16, 2012, 12:37:06 PM
why doesn't your chart work in Chrome on Lion Mac OSX?
Do any other flash content run on this browser?


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: cypherdoc on June 16, 2012, 02:38:19 PM
why doesn't your chart work in Chrome on Lion Mac OSX?
Do any other flash content run on this browser?

how would i know?  if so, what do i do?


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: waspoza on June 16, 2012, 02:58:45 PM
why doesn't your chart work in Chrome on Lion Mac OSX?
Do any other flash content run on this browser?

how would i know?  if so, what do i do?

Check this page http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/find-version-flash-player.html


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: cypherdoc on June 16, 2012, 03:10:00 PM
why doesn't your chart work in Chrome on Lion Mac OSX?
Do any other flash content run on this browser?

how would i know?  if so, what do i do?

Check this page http://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/find-version-flash-player.html

cool.  yes, its on here.  how do i disable?  do i want too?


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: waspoza on June 16, 2012, 05:03:36 PM
No, it should be enabled.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: cypherdoc on June 16, 2012, 05:09:00 PM
No, it should be enabled.

then thats not the problem since it is enabled.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on June 16, 2012, 05:33:54 PM
cypherdoc -try install newest flash player (11.3). If this not help - write me on PM what do you see when you enter btccharts


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on June 17, 2012, 10:32:53 PM
I'm not sure if everyone is getting one thing when it comes to ghost lines and "sensitivity" parameter.
http://i.imgur.com/htluE.jpg

It controls how much bid/ask must change in total volume to create new ghost line

For example, let's say you have 16 ghost lines in settings. If you set 300, you will see new ghost line every time bid/ask volume change over 300 BTC since last ghost line. This will be 300*16 volume history change on your screen.

If you set higher value, you can observe longer change history.
For example 1440 will show 1440*16=23040 volume change:
http://i.imgur.com/sxCqV.jpg

Currently there's no way to "roll back" and make new ghost lines, but someday it will be possible.
For now just don't refresh too much so new ghost lines will be created in full.


Other thing - since some new flash player version (11.2 I guess), when you hold btccharts in inactive tab to long it will loose connection. For now page refresh is only fix for this, check always last trade and order time - if they are in similar values you got this problem. Anyway, I'm on it.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bb113 on June 18, 2012, 06:42:34 AM
Once again I love your charting site, I am in awe of how you have created nearly exactly what I imagine every time...can we get bitfloor?


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on June 18, 2012, 08:56:25 PM
can we get bitfloor?
Bitfloor will be added, but now must wait for next big update ("this summer" ;) ).


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on June 25, 2012, 02:35:35 PM
No one care about Cavirtex? It's down since couple days. I can't load data from server, looks like my server IP is blocked. I've send mail to them, but no answer so far. So if anyone is interested getting this back - admin@cavirtex.com

Other thing, mail from my hosting provider: "On the evening of Tuesday, June 26 2012 between the hours of 12AM and 6AM Eastern Standard Time (GMT-5), BitsForCoins will be conducting emergency maintenance on the host node that provides your service.  Lasting for approximately 20 minutes [...]"


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: notme on June 25, 2012, 02:38:27 PM
No one care about Cavirtex? It's down since couple days. I can't load data from server, looks like my server IP is blocked. I've send mail to them, but no answer so far. So if anyone is interested getting this back - admin@cavirtex.com

Other thing, mail from my hosting provider: "On the evening of Tuesday, June 26 2012 between the hours of 12AM and 6AM Eastern Standard Time (GMT-5), BitsForCoins will be conducting emergency maintenance on the host node that provides your service.  Lasting for approximately 20 minutes [...]"

Hmmm... I wonder if it's really going to be EST or if they really meant EDT since that's what we're on now.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on June 26, 2012, 11:43:53 AM
Plans change: "Wednesday, June 27 2012 at 12AM EST (GMT-5) and lasting 6 hours, with a period of approximately 20 minutes down."


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on July 09, 2012, 07:42:58 PM
Another maintenance from my hosting provider. It supposed to be 1h, now it's 12h and counting...


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: BoardGameCoin on July 09, 2012, 08:16:52 PM
Another maintenance from my hosting provider. It supposed to be 1h, now it's 12h and counting...

Thanks for the update!


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: adamstgBit on July 09, 2012, 08:35:08 PM
Another maintenance from my hosting provider. It supposed to be 1h, now it's 12h and counting...

Thanks for the update!

i was wondering why it was down


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on July 10, 2012, 02:01:59 AM
oh yeah, BTC @ $7, and btccharts is down, not cool

Looks like there will be another hosting change. Maybe someone have any proposition?
I'm interested in VPS/dedicated:
OS: Windows Server 2003/2008
memory 3-4GB (with swap will be +)
CPU that gets min 2000 points on that benchmark http://www.cpubenchmark.net/mid_range_cpus.html
20GB HDD
1 TB transfer monthly
2 IP
can be located in US, Europe or Asia
good internet connection with low ping, and at least 5mbps to LosAngeles, London, Moscow
panel where I can restart and see some transfer usage chart
stable! (max 1h maintenance)

PM me if interested (or admin@btccharts.com) (and we have a winner :) )


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: rapeghost on July 10, 2012, 01:16:21 PM
Glad to say that BitVPS is now providing *proper* hosting for BTCCharts.com

I just set them up and am damn glad to have them as customers.

Finally our damn site will be up! I need some stats ASAP! :)


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: ailikun on July 10, 2012, 02:32:28 PM
still doesnt seem to work...


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: waltmarkers on July 10, 2012, 07:22:00 PM
I really hate having to use mtgoxlive.com - please get this back up soon.

goxlive is a resource hog, and doesn't have the same features you do. Please, come back!!!


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: rjk on July 10, 2012, 07:23:05 PM
Glad to say that BitVPS is now providing *proper* hosting for BTCCharts.com

I just set them up and am damn glad to have them as customers.

Finally our damn site will be up! I need some stats ASAP! :)
Maybe you should save your little press releases until the site loads for everyone, yeah?


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on July 10, 2012, 09:31:42 PM
yup, bitvps to the rescue! :D

I've just wake up (sometimes you need sleep ;) ) and applying btccharts on new server, this can take ~2h if there will be no unexpected problem, but domain propagation can take a while (up to 24h) anyway.

edit: and I've just got mail from bitsforcoins, that they have some disk fail. My server should work but is still dead, I've send them mail about this and let's see how thing will go...


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: tripper22 on July 11, 2012, 02:04:27 AM
yup, bitvps to the rescue! :D

I've just wake up (sometimes you need sleep ;) ) and applying btccharts on new server, this can take ~2h if there will be no unexpected problem, but domain propagation can take a while (up to 24h) anyway.

edit: and I've just got mail from bitsforcoins, that they have some disk fail. My server should work but is still dead, I've send them mail about this and let's see how thing will go...

All good here. Thank you!


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: rapeghost on July 11, 2012, 05:16:27 PM
shutup rjk :)


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: tripper22 on July 12, 2012, 03:23:33 AM
Down again. Back again.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on July 17, 2012, 08:16:31 AM
There's some problem with marking trades as sell or buy - please don't trust this until it get fixed.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on July 17, 2012, 08:33:02 AM
Ok, fixed.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on July 19, 2012, 06:17:30 AM
Oh, for couple last days there were nasty bug with most exchanges (other than mtgox), sorry for the problem  - works now
Please feel free to report any problems, really :)


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: BTCurious on July 19, 2012, 01:35:19 PM
I still got btccharts stalling on me a few times in the last days. I would notice "last trade" to be at 5 minutes, or in more extreme cases, multiple hours. I watch mtgoxUSD only, so this typically never happens… Refreshing it fixes it.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on July 19, 2012, 05:34:23 PM
I still got btccharts stalling on me a few times in the last days. I would notice "last trade" to be at 5 minutes, or in more extreme cases, multiple hours. I watch mtgoxUSD only, so this typically never happens… Refreshing it fixes it.
Do this occur when you have btccharts in inactive browser tab (or browser minimized)? Or btccharts were visible for this whole time?


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: BTCurious on July 19, 2012, 05:43:24 PM
I think it's on my (second) screen the whole time without anything covering it, although I do other stuff so the browser window doesn't have focus. I'll keep an eye on it though…


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on July 19, 2012, 05:58:22 PM
I think it's on my (second) screen the whole time without anything covering it, although I do other stuff so the browser window doesn't have focus. I'll keep an eye on it though…
No focus don't have any impact on this case. Ok, so bad news for me - can't blame this on flash player ;)


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: BTCurious on July 20, 2012, 04:23:59 AM
If you set up some kind of debug version, I can give you the output when it happens. Don't know how you'd easily debug flash though…

On an unrelated note, it's been stuck for 6 hours now. But this is different, because refreshing doesn't help.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: cedus on July 20, 2012, 06:42:09 AM
Nice tool you have created, thanks!
How about an option to split one browser tab/window into 2 or 4 different cells in either of which one could load exchange/market data of one's own choice?


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on July 20, 2012, 06:42:31 AM
If you set up some kind of debug version, I can give you the output when it happens. Don't know how you'd easily debug flash though…
I will setup some old PC that will be running 24h and I will see whats going on.

On an unrelated note, it's been stuck for 6 hours now. But this is different, because refreshing doesn't help.
Fuuuu... services were down, I've changed their restart for 12h, not 3h as usual (worked fine for months), and there we go, bad idea...
I will add some crash checking and auto restart in that case.

Man this is plain wrong, when I put my tin foil hat I see that there's crash right after btccharts is down.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on July 20, 2012, 07:18:30 AM
Nice tool you have created, thanks!
How about an option to split one browser tab/window into 2 or 4 different cells in either of which one could load exchange/market data of one's own choice?
I next version there will be exactly something like that, and it's actually ready: http://i.imgur.com/0gGDC.jpg
You can arrange anything very easily, add different modules. And store this as different layouts.
So far there's two modules, live vertical chart and archival chart (unlimited time range and archival orderbook data (every hour since Aug 2011), with possibility to replay almost every move since April 18 (orderbook changes and trades)).
Looks like I will finish this to the end of August.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on July 20, 2012, 03:50:15 PM
I've changed counter from cookie id based to IP based, because there was some unknown issues for this solution.
This will count connections from multiple clients behind the same LAN network as one, but should be a lot more accurate anyway.

Also I've implemented anti crash system for exchanges services, so there's good chance issues like couple hours ago will not take place in the future.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: kentrolla on July 29, 2012, 07:47:16 AM
I've changed counter from cookie id based to IP based, because there was some unknown issues for this solution.
This will count connections from multiple clients behind the same LAN network as one, but should be a lot more accurate anyway.

Also I've implemented anti crash system for exchanges services, so there's good chance issues like couple hours ago will not take place in the future.
do you have any plans to implement sounds into btccharts.com?  For example play a sound when a sell happens and different sound for a buy, and even better a separate sound for high volume or (as defined by the user) sell/buy, and an option to ignore trades under a certain volume threshold as defined by user. ofc you would have the option to mute it, or better yet, change the volume.  This would really help me a lot because I wouldn't have to watch my screen or even have the tab open to hear a rally/crash going on. I could be doing something else and I would hear it, rather than having to open the tab to check.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on July 29, 2012, 07:52:49 AM
I've changed counter from cookie id based to IP based, because there was some unknown issues for this solution.
This will count connections from multiple clients behind the same LAN network as one, but should be a lot more accurate anyway.

Also I've implemented anti crash system for exchanges services, so there's good chance issues like couple hours ago will not take place in the future.
do you have any plans to implement sounds into btccharts.com?  For example play a sound when a sell happens and different sound for a buy, and even better a separate sound for high volume or (as defined by the user) sell/buy, and an option to ignore trades under a certain volume threshold as defined by user. ofc you would have the option to mute it, or better yet, change the volume.  This would really help me a lot because I wouldn't have to watch my screen or even have the tab open to hear a rally/crash going on. I could be doing something else and I would hear it, rather than having to open the tab to check.
This feature is in my plans, but first I must finish what actually I'm working on. Lets say you can expect sounds in max 2 months.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: kentrolla on July 29, 2012, 07:59:33 AM
I've changed counter from cookie id based to IP based, because there was some unknown issues for this solution.
This will count connections from multiple clients behind the same LAN network as one, but should be a lot more accurate anyway.

Also I've implemented anti crash system for exchanges services, so there's good chance issues like couple hours ago will not take place in the future.
do you have any plans to implement sounds into btccharts.com?  For example play a sound when a sell happens and different sound for a buy, and even better a separate sound for high volume or (as defined by the user) sell/buy, and an option to ignore trades under a certain volume threshold as defined by user. ofc you would have the option to mute it, or better yet, change the volume.  This would really help me a lot because I wouldn't have to watch my screen or even have the tab open to hear a rally/crash going on. I could be doing something else and I would hear it, rather than having to open the tab to check.
This feature is in my plans, but first I must finish what actually I'm working on. Lets say you can expect sounds in max 2 months.
awesome, thank a lot. Just after posting that I realized that Clark had responded to my suggestion on his thread. I suggested this same thing to Clark a while ago. it was stupid of me to post this suggestion before i checked his thread. I don't want to seem rude, but I prefer Clark moody because you can see the order book in actual numbers without having to mouse over anything. Also, I like the fact that clark moody shows up to 0.00000 decimal points on the price because that is what mtgox goes by and you can tell when someone is just over/undercutting. Although, I can see why many prefer your site, maybe because they are more of a visual learner. Also, the side-bar and the ghost line features are an advantage that you have over Clark Moody. Anyways, I think its a good suggestion and I'm sure a lot of people would love the new feature.



Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on July 29, 2012, 08:09:53 AM
awesome, thank a lot. Just after posting that I realized that Clark had responded to my suggestion on his thread. I suggested this same thing to Clark a while ago. it was stupid of me to post this suggestion before i checked his thread.
I really don't see any problem here ;)

I don't want to seem rude, but I prefer Clark moody because you can see the order book in actual numbers without having to mouse over anything. Although, I can see why many prefer your site, maybe because they are more of a visual learner. Also, the side-bar feature is an advantage that you have over Clark moody. Anyways, I think its a good suggestion and I'm sure a lot of people would love the new feature.
I have a "policy" to show everything in some kind of visual form. But ok, some day you will see orderbook in numbers (for me it's just blur of information, but I've abandoned trading a while ago so I can be a little out of perspective ;) ).


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: kentrolla on July 29, 2012, 08:32:37 AM
awesome, thank a lot. Just after posting that I realized that Clark had responded to my suggestion on his thread. I suggested this same thing to Clark a while ago. it was stupid of me to post this suggestion before i checked his thread.
I really don't see any problem here ;)

I don't want to seem rude, but I prefer Clark moody because you can see the order book in actual numbers without having to mouse over anything. Although, I can see why many prefer your site, maybe because they are more of a visual learner. Also, the side-bar feature is an advantage that you have over Clark moody. Anyways, I think its a good suggestion and I'm sure a lot of people would love the new feature.
I have a "policy" to show everything in some kind of visual form. But ok, some day you will see orderbook in numbers (for me it's just blur of information, but I've abandoned trading a while ago so I can be a little out of perspective ;) ).
I meant I was rude to Clark to go and suggest this to a "competitor" (I know nothing about your relationship) without checking his thread first. Also, pointing out advantages/disadvantages might come off as rude to you. Don't get me wrong, I'm not suggesting you switch to the numbers style depth chart. It's my personal preference and I'm sure more people prefer the visual style that you're currently using. Although having the option to switch back and forth would be cool. Currently, I use both of your sites because they each have their own advantages. For me it seems like CM a couple seconds ahead as far as the "real time charting" goes.  I don't know the technical details about that, but it would be nice if you could reduce that delay somehow. Again, these are just suggestions that I think your users would love to see implemented.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on July 29, 2012, 08:42:50 AM
For me it seems like CM a couple seconds ahead as far as the "real time charting" goes.  I don't know the technical details about that, but it would be nice if you could reduce that delay somehow.
CM is using socket connection from mtgox. I don't use it because it is loosing connection when you really want it and very often miss some data (orderbook is getting very messy). No way I will be back to this (as long it's over socket.io).


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: kentrolla on July 29, 2012, 08:56:12 AM
For me it seems like CM a couple seconds ahead as far as the "real time charting" goes.  I don't know the technical details about that, but it would be nice if you could reduce that delay somehow.
CM is using socket connection from mtgox. I don't use it because it is loosing connection when you really want it and very often miss some data (orderbook is getting very messy). No way I will be back to this (as long it's over socket.io).
So what are you currently using? Don't bother explaining if its too technical, I'm no techie.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on July 29, 2012, 09:03:59 AM
So what are you currently using? Don't bother explaining if its too technical, I'm no techie.
I'm using my solutions - in effect you will get 0 to 11sec delay.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on July 29, 2012, 04:42:27 PM
Little update - http://btccharts.com/beta (http://btccharts.com/beta)

Changes:
 - new UI (more "finger friendly")
 - some stability improvements (not sure this one)
 - 2 new drag areas: volume log scale,  sales time range
 - only black theme (too much trouble with two)
 - time labels
 - two new exchanges: BitCurex, BitFloor
 - improved quality setting with auto adjustment at the first time

This is much more usable on android devices.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: kentrolla on July 29, 2012, 06:00:19 PM
Little update - http://btccharts.com/beta (http://btccharts.com/beta)

Changes:
 - new UI (more "finger friendly")
 - some stability improvements (not sure this one)
 - 2 new drag areas: volume log scale,  sales time range
 - only black theme (too much trouble with two)
 - time labels
 - two new exchanges: BitCurex, BitFloor
 - improved quality setting with auto adjustment at the first time

This is much more usable on android devices.
well done. i like it. it would be nice to be able to make the settings bars at the top and bottom go away. no big deal though


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: tbcoin on July 29, 2012, 07:30:57 PM
Little update - http://btccharts.com/beta (http://btccharts.com/beta)

Changes:
 - new UI (more "finger friendly")
 - some stability improvements (not sure this one)
 - 2 new drag areas: volume log scale,  sales time range
 - only black theme (too much trouble with two)
 - time labels
 - two new exchanges: BitCurex, BitFloor
 - improved quality setting with auto adjustment at the first time

This is much more usable on android devices.

I love your platform and really congratulate it.

Sincerely this perfect as this, can be seen that you have invested time in it, but in my opinion the way that follows the beta is horrible, sorry.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: Stephen Gornick on July 30, 2012, 04:51:45 AM
Little update - http://btccharts.com/beta (http://btccharts.com/beta)

Changes:
[...]
 - two new exchanges: BitCurex, BitFloor


What do I need to do to see those?


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on July 30, 2012, 08:00:02 AM
What do I need to do to see those?
- click down left button
- "change market"

Quote
well done. i like it. it would be nice to be able to make the settings bars at the top and bottom go away. no big deal though
When you have bottom bar opened there's a new button at settings popup "close settings bar"
Top bar will stay because later there will be much more, often used options.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: notme on July 30, 2012, 05:34:20 PM
I've refreshed, but I still don't see the new exchanges on the list.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on July 30, 2012, 05:37:29 PM
I've refreshed, but I still don't see the new exchanges on the list.
Do you checking this on http://btccharts.com/ or http://btccharts.com/beta ?


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: notme on July 30, 2012, 05:38:22 PM
I've refreshed, but I still don't see the new exchanges on the list.
Do you checking this on http://btccharts.com/ or http://btccharts.com/beta ?

Oops... I guess I should have read your announcement instead of just what was quoted ;).

Also, default quality looks like crap on my resolution (1280x800).  Only 100% looks acceptable to me, but I suppose it might be useful for lowering CPU usage.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: giszmo on July 30, 2012, 08:44:14 PM
broken to me :(
on btccharts without beta I now see no data. just the axis.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: notme on July 30, 2012, 08:44:55 PM
broken to me :(
on btccharts without beta I now see no data. just the axis.

Hmmm... works here.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on July 30, 2012, 08:46:30 PM
broken to me :(
on btccharts without beta I now see no data. just the axis.
Apache server was down when I've tried move from current server to beta. Since I'm not Apache expert this can take a while.
Domain IP was back to old server so this should work on in an hour (at least at non-beta btccharts.com)


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on July 30, 2012, 08:53:25 PM
Ok, fixed.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: BTCurious on July 30, 2012, 09:18:25 PM
Can you put the price in the title of the page again? It's convenient if I don't have the tab focussed :)


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on July 30, 2012, 09:22:55 PM
Can you put the price in the title of the page again? It's convenient if I don't have the tab focussed :)
Oh right - fixed.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: BTCurious on July 30, 2012, 09:44:41 PM
Thanks :D


Also:
btccharts rolls out new update > price rises 30 cents.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: scaryzet on July 30, 2012, 09:49:57 PM
Bring the light color theme back please! I really dislike the dark one, it's very uncomfortable for my eyes to look at it!

Or better bring the entire old version back. Like classic version of mtgox.

Please.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: BTCurious on July 30, 2012, 09:50:44 PM
Bring the light color theme back please! I really dislike the dark one, it's very uncomfortable for my eyes to look at it!
Wow really? The light one is horrible! I'll take green on black any day.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: cloon on July 30, 2012, 09:51:32 PM
great update! thanks for your work! ;D


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: Spekulatius on July 30, 2012, 10:56:45 PM
Bring the light color theme back please! I really dislike the dark one, it's very uncomfortable for my eyes to look at it!

Or better bring the entire old version back. Like classic version of mtgox.

Please.

+1


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: giszmo on July 31, 2012, 12:07:13 AM
Bring the light color theme back please! I really dislike the dark one, it's very uncomfortable for my eyes to look at it!
Wow really? The light one is horrible! I'll take green on black any day.

:) Oh how I love this kind of feedback. It sounds so familiar :)
Never take away a feature. Users will hate you for that. I actually also prefer the light theme and so far can't appreciate the new version at all. What really counts though might be the impression on people that don't know the other version. In the end this site still is by far the best we have and I see how it is getting better very soon :)


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: LoweryCBS on July 31, 2012, 12:11:04 AM
Very exciting new look & feel - thank you for your work!


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: calian on July 31, 2012, 05:23:33 AM
Another vote for the light color scheme.  ;D


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: throwaway on July 31, 2012, 05:23:48 PM
Another vote for the light color scheme.  ;D

And another one here.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: SkRRJyTC on July 31, 2012, 06:03:46 PM
Bring the light color theme back please! I really dislike the dark one, it's very uncomfortable for my eyes to look at it!
Wow really? The light one is horrible! I'll take green on black any day.

Dark theme is way better.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: Lumpy on July 31, 2012, 07:00:02 PM
Bring the light color theme back please! I really dislike the dark one, it's very uncomfortable for my eyes to look at it!
Wow really? The light one is horrible! I'll take green on black any day.

Dark theme is way better.

Choice is good. I'm trying to get used to the dark theme but I too prefer the light substantially. It's easier for me to look over at a glance and see the price from the other side of the room, among other things.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on July 31, 2012, 07:10:19 PM
Guys please, let me take a breath ;)
Theme changing is quite pain in the ass, and now I really must do some registering, payments and start shaking coins out of your pockets. Maybe somewhere in this year I will be back with light theme. But for now - no.
From what I've seen most of modern trading platforms are in the dark theme.

It's very common that with any change in services that you use frequently you will not like that no matter what it is, because you must learn it and get used to it - just give it some time. And keep in mind it must be also finger friendly so that's why you see big ass buttons ;) (since I'm planning app for windows, android, maybe ios and maybe linux, and don't want to make too much mess with two kinds of user interface).


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: BTCurious on July 31, 2012, 08:23:01 PM
Haha here's an actual request then:

Can you save the settings in a cookie or something? It doesn't save them anymore since the update, I think. Or maybe they get reset every update and you've been doing minor updates? Not sure.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on July 31, 2012, 09:10:26 PM
Can you save the settings in a cookie or something? It doesn't save them anymore since the update, I think. Or maybe they get reset every update and you've been doing minor updates? Not sure.
Updates don't clear cookies. I've checked this case and just one thing was not saving - recent sales time range (right bar). But it's fixed now. Please check this - set all settings to max, wait couple seconds, reset page and tell me if this is not saved.

List of sliders at bottom bar are not saved (later will be).


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: scaryzet on July 31, 2012, 09:14:00 PM
and don't want to make too much mess with two kinds of user interface

If a different color scheme is a "mess" for you, it means you're doing something wrong within your code. I'm a coder too and I don't understand how can a thing like "a set of configuration values" result in anything inconvinient in coding of an application.

Thank you for the charts. I hope you find a way. It will be even better if you make generalized color settings, so everyone is able to set a personal value for any color used in the chart.

And a few words about small displays. On my HTC Desire the top bar with the logo and the "settings" button takes too much place. There wasn't such a bar in the old version, and now it's just annoying and completely useless, wasting the precious space. Consider removing this top bar: the "settings" can go to the bottom right where it should be and the logo can be put into the info block at the top-left corner.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: BTCurious on July 31, 2012, 09:22:49 PM
and don't want to make too much mess with two kinds of user interface

If a different color scheme is a "mess" for you, it means you're doing something wrong within your code. I'm a coder too and I don't understand how can a thing like "a set of configuration values" result in anything inconvinient in coding of an application.

Thank you for the charts. I hope you find a way. It will be even better if you make generalized color settings, so everyone is able to set a personal value for any color used in the chart.

And a few words about small displays. On my HTC Desire the top bar with the logo and the "settings" button takes too much place. There wasn't such a bar in the old version, and now it's just annoying and completely useless, wasting the precious space. Consider removing this top bar: the "settings" can go to the bottom right where it should be and the logo can be put into the info block at the top-left corner.
If you're a coder, you must also know that tidying up messy code is not impossible, but takes quite some time and effort :)

Can you save the settings in a cookie or something? It doesn't save them anymore since the update, I think. Or maybe they get reset every update and you've been doing minor updates? Not sure.
Updates don't clear cookies. I've checked this case and just one thing was not saving - recent sales time range (right bar). But it's fixed now. Please check this - set all settings to max, wait couple seconds, reset page and tell me if this is not saved.

List of sliders at bottom bar are not saved (later will be).
Ah yes, that bar is exactly what I noticed :D


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on August 01, 2012, 02:13:33 AM
and don't want to make too much mess with two kinds of user interface
If a different color scheme is a "mess" for you, it means you're doing something wrong within your code. I'm a coder too and I don't understand how can a thing like "a set of configuration values" result in anything inconvinient in coding of an application.
Please read more carefully text what you are referring to - there's difference between "user interface" and "color scheme".

It will be even better if you make generalized color settings, so everyone is able to set a personal value for any color used in the chart.
Light theme I can understand (eyes sensitivity) but I don't think any day trader need to play with colors of interface he is using. There's really much more important things to do for me.

And a few words about small displays. On my HTC Desire the top bar with the logo and the "settings" button takes too much place. There wasn't such a bar in the old version, and now it's just annoying and completely useless, wasting the precious space. Consider removing this top bar: the "settings" can go to the bottom right where it should be and the logo can be put into the info block at the top-left corner.
It's 40px. Every application have top bar, and it works for mine too. Now it's only settings, but in the future there will be other options that should be accessible all the time because they will be used very often.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: Yuhfhrh on August 01, 2012, 05:58:38 AM
And a few words about small displays. On my HTC Desire the top bar with the logo and the "settings" button takes too much place. There wasn't such a bar in the old version, and now it's just annoying and completely useless, wasting the precious space. Consider removing this top bar: the "settings" can go to the bottom right where it should be and the logo can be put into the info block at the top-left corner.
It's 40px. Every application have top bar, and it works for mine too. Now it's only settings, but in the future there will be other options that should be accessible all the time because they will be used very often.


I agree that the bar takes up a lot of space on an android phone, and really makes it look unprofessional compared to the previous version. Every pixel counts when you're on a screen that small. You say every application has a top bar, but most are designed to be used in a portrait position. I can't think of a single application that is meant to be used primarily in landscape that has a bar like that on top. If the bar was on the side, that would be a different story.

Please add an option in the settings to remove that bar so I can make use of the entire screen. I would really appreciate it, and its always good to have your website mobile friendly.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: BTCurious on August 01, 2012, 08:10:12 AM
Woke up to see this:
http://i.imgur.com/kfQBv.png

Refreshing fixed it.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on August 04, 2012, 10:11:56 AM
As you may know - btccharts server is down. I wait for response from my hosting, so I can't say when it will be up.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on August 04, 2012, 12:01:09 PM
I still have old server so I've moved domain there. This can work for you now, if not - use http://68.234.27.10


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on August 12, 2012, 05:40:18 PM
I've made new forum for BTCcharts, and there's one important announcement  - BETA testing - layouts, archive chart, user  (http://btccharts.com/forum/index.php?topic=2) ;)

You can still comment here.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: Yuhfhrh on August 13, 2012, 12:13:05 AM
I am unable to re-size the chart now. Is this a bug?


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: tbcoin on August 13, 2012, 12:23:29 AM
I am unable to re-size the chart now. Is this a bug?

Pay ;)


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: Yuhfhrh on August 13, 2012, 12:26:03 AM
I am unable to re-size the chart now. Is this a bug?

Pay ;)

Well that sucks :( It was going downhill anyway, back to mtgox live for me!  ;D

Edit: Unless paying removes that obnoxious bar from the top O.o


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: tbcoin on August 13, 2012, 12:34:43 AM
I am unable to re-size the chart now. Is this a bug?

Pay ;)

Well that sucks :( It was going downhill anyway, back to mtgox live for me!  ;D

Edit: Unless paying removes that obnoxious bar from the top O.o

At the time I said I did not like the new menu system, but now I recognize that for the new functions was necessary and honestly I have no problem paying (which I did) to use this platform.

Altruism is very nice, but btccharts is a very useful tool, very elaborate and that costs time and money to maintain, I think that 0.047bct per week is a more than reasonable price.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bb113 on August 13, 2012, 12:40:41 AM
bugs, etc:

1)If I click Account at the top it brings up a window with some bad typos:
Title: "Accout opotions"

2) Time since last trade and order text is cut off (eg reads "t 2m 40 sec", o "00s" ). Perhaps this is on purpose.

3) If I have multiple modules open and I wish to then add an archival chart I have no choice of which market this chart should refer to. I think it chooses the market of the most recently added module

4) A sales only module has no title and timeframe cannot be adjusted
- It would be good if these sales modules also showed the price

5) Time range of trades, recent sales, and order book date is somewhat difficult to adjust precisely. It would be good to be able to type in a custom range.

6) tooltips will sometimes go off the screen


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: Yuhfhrh on August 13, 2012, 12:43:04 AM
I am unable to re-size the chart now. Is this a bug?

Pay ;)

Well that sucks :( It was going downhill anyway, back to mtgox live for me!  ;D

Edit: Unless paying removes that obnoxious bar from the top O.o

At the time I said I did not like the new menu system, but now I recognize that for the new functions was necessary and honestly I have no problem paying (which I did) to use this platform.

Altruism is very nice, but btccharts is a very useful tool, very elaborate and that costs time and money to maintain, I think that 0.047bct per week is a more than reasonable price.

I usually used this on my nexus one, and I understand the benefits of the new menu system too. What I don't understand is the lack of a fullscreen option to remove it. (Especially for mobile)


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bb113 on August 13, 2012, 01:10:53 AM
Some other ideas:

1) Export/import layout so that if someone has a good one they could easily share.

2) Batch add module (ie all mt gox sales btc/currency pairs)

This is very cool. Especially the order book history.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: kentrolla on August 13, 2012, 01:20:19 AM
still no sounds?


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: giszmo on August 13, 2012, 02:06:39 AM
I find it overpriced. Yes, there are really cool features. The modules are wow but I don't want to use them. I'm not a day trader but just a bitcoin fan. Please put the accumulated volume back in the free version. This feature where I can mark beginning and end on the chart and it sums up the coins sold and bought.

I think you deserve to earn money with this but I hope you get some fair income based on numbers not on a high price.

Anyway. I just payed for a week subscription as I really like this site and wanted to test it out but I doubt that I will stay a regular :(


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: flipperfish on August 13, 2012, 12:31:34 PM
Oh, this is sad, without zooming, this site is now rather useless for me. I don't need any of the other "pay-features", but 0.04 btc/week just for zooming is too much for me, sorry.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: LoweryCBS on August 13, 2012, 12:46:57 PM
bzzard,

I am VERY pleased with the efforts put into your work, thank you!

My only request is an option for annual payment, or perhaps even lifetime.

(and you need to charge more)

Thank you!


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on August 13, 2012, 02:52:47 PM
1)If I click Account at the top it brings up a window with some bad typos:
Title: "Accout opotions"
To fix.

2) Time since last trade and order text is cut off (eg reads "t 2m 40 sec", o "00s" ). Perhaps this is on purpose.
On purpose (more space).

3) If I have multiple modules open and I wish to then add an archival chart I have no choice of which market this chart should refer to. I think it chooses the market of the most recently added module
So far only mtgox got archival data. Rest will be added later.

4) A sales only module has no title and timeframe cannot be adjusted
- It would be good if these sales modules also showed the price
Yes. I will add some info in tooltip and dragging.

5) Time range of trades, recent sales, and order book date is somewhat difficult to adjust precisely. It would be good to be able to type in a custom range.
Ok. I will add custom time by date (simple input, you write date like "2011 6 22") and work on dragging precision.

6) tooltips will sometimes go off the screen
To fix.


My only request is an option for annual payment, or perhaps even lifetime.
I don't want to have too much responsibility. Current max is 30 days. This will be extended to 60 if I decide this is out of beta. One minute once in 60 days is not big effort I think ;)

(and you need to charge more)
For now it's 0.08USD/day because of beta phase. Later (maybe next week) 0.35USD/day.

still no sounds?
Sounds are next feature todo (I'm open to suggestions in this case).

1) Export/import layout so that if someone has a good one they could easily share.
Yeah, that can be cool and not to hard to do. For now I can do simple import/export by text (json). Let's say in a month this should be ready.

2) Batch add module (ie all mt gox sales btc/currency pairs)
1) should do the trick (+maybe some html subpage with export text and preview gallery)


No comment on price topic :P


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bb113 on August 13, 2012, 05:39:29 PM
A few more things I noticed:

1) Bitfloor order book is not complete. Elsewhere someone mentioned they have two APIs, one with complete orderbook.

2) Bitfloor buys show up as red on the sale chart ,while sells show up as green. I am not sure if this is true for any other exchanges.

3) A toggle to hide the date information could be useful.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: invader on August 14, 2012, 12:32:50 PM
i really decided to post just to say thanks to creator of btccharts for what was before changes, as i was using this service and was quite happy with it's speed and functionality before last updates. i don't like last new design change - in my opinion it works slower , less informative configuration, absense of white theme. but as long as it was free i has nothing to complain about. everything is changing and there is a lot of things we can't stop changing even if we like as it was before. but now when i noticed login bar, and the last useful bits of even that slow config was removed - i totally disappointed in this service. first - if i gonna pay for it - i must say that i would like to pay for older version, not new one. second - i found the use-fee is too high - if i pay for a month of use it costs me a half what i pay to my ISP. third - even if you say "pay when you need it" - i don't want to pay every time before i use it as i don't do hard daytrading most of the time, but i often use service as one of browser tabs which i can monitor for price and switch to it fast if i want to look for details and/or begin trading.
so to say finally, again thanks for past times of such service, and i also think you deserve to earn money with it - but personally i don't like this way so if you totally close the site to allow registered users only in next step - i probably then will have a kickstart to finish my own market monitoring routine with the output i like for myself and just add some load to gox servers while fetching their markets data.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: Miner99er on August 15, 2012, 08:34:37 AM
Pay. I ROFLED when I read it...

Now I can't scroll...

Guess I don't need to use the site anymore.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: giszmo on August 15, 2012, 09:06:23 AM
Pay. I ROFLED when I read it...

guess if mtgoxlive had taken the challenge and kept up with development I would have rofled, too but now I see no real competitor :( But I'm sure there will be.

Anyway: I tried the payment feature and I'm very frustrated about having to log in 5 times per day without my password manager managing a damn thing. Can you make the login html based somehow, so the default managers can kick in. This is for sure one more reason not to pay again.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on August 15, 2012, 09:16:59 AM
Anyway: I tried the payment feature and I'm very frustrated about having to log in 5 times per day without my password manager managing a damn thing. Can you make the login html based somehow, so the default managers can kick in. This is for sure one more reason not to pay again.
Please send me your login to PM - I will check some stuff.

And guys, this site is 10 months hard work of developer with 13 years of experience. Do you think someone will spend so much time on site to give it just for free? Be happy that you have still at least one live service that will show you current trades and ob when big moves are going on.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: Yuhfhrh on August 15, 2012, 03:15:16 PM
Anyway: I tried the payment feature and I'm very frustrated about having to log in 5 times per day without my password manager managing a damn thing. Can you make the login html based somehow, so the default managers can kick in. This is for sure one more reason not to pay again.
Please send me your login to PM - I will check some stuff.

And guys, this site is 10 months hard work of developer with 13 years of experience. Do you think someone will spend so much time on site to give it just for free? Be happy that you have still at least one live service that will show you current trades and ob when big moves are going on.

Nobody is complaining that you are charging, they are complaining because you are making unwanted changes AND charging.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: giszmo on August 15, 2012, 06:31:57 PM
Anyway: I tried the payment feature and I'm very frustrated about having to log in 5 times per day without my password manager managing a damn thing. Can you make the login html based somehow, so the default managers can kick in. This is for sure one more reason not to pay again.
Please send me your login to PM - I will check some stuff.

And guys, this site is 10 months hard work of developer with 13 years of experience. Do you think someone will spend so much time on site to give it just for free? Be happy that you have still at least one live service that will show you current trades and ob when big moves are going on.

I also have my projects that started as free projects with the intention to charge later. I'm also pissed, when people are disrespectful of my hard work.
My replies are hopefully not perceived as disrespectful. I try to give you my most honest feedback on who might be willing to pay how much and don't try to make you believe nobody's gonna pay anyway. People that complain about my app I point to my closest up competition. If they still nag, apparently I have what they want and there is nothing wrong with charging them whatever amount. In the end nobody is forced to pay. This approach clearly only works if you are the best in the field which you at the moment are, too.

My request to charge less was only as I find the step from paying nothing for a good service to paying a lot for the full product too steep. If you charge according to modules used, price scales both better with user's benefit and with your server load. I'm actually not using at all those modules (after i tried them all once) and the only incentive to pay is to get the total trade volume over a picked time frame.


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on August 15, 2012, 11:06:32 PM
A few more things I noticed:

1) Bitfloor order book is not complete. Elsewhere someone mentioned they have two APIs, one with complete orderbook.
I've contacted with them in this case. Full order book is available only by socketIO - this technology is banned for me. We must wait until they implement full orderbook. I really have no idea why they are afraid a little more traffic, it's so cheap. You can always bug them by the mail ;)

2) Bitfloor buys show up as red on the sale chart ,while sells show up as green. I am not sure if this is true for any other exchanges.
I've checked this case and it looking good at my code. Maybe bitfloor have this inverted. Anyway, I've inverted this at my code. Case with small trades range is the same as with orderbook - their API is passing just last 100 trades. I can get trades before but I don't want to spend time on this because this is only exchange that have such issue.

3) A toggle to hide the date information could be useful.

Check out: http://btccharts.com/forum/index.php?topic=4.msg12#msg12


Title: Re: btccharts.com
Post by: bzzard on August 19, 2012, 02:17:45 AM
I'm closing this topic. Please continue discussion at http://btccharts.com/forum/index.php (http://btccharts.com/forum/index.php)