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Again it´s looking really bad. With the chinese exchanges about to shutdown
a huge amount of money will leave the market. IRS regulations and a lot of stolen and hacked coins
that might be sold won´t help to give new investors trust to invest into the market.
And the only thing that could help to uphold the price at these levels are huge multimillion dollar investors.
Old money sellin and buyin lower won´t help to bring the price up, this will just create a short bull trap, and as we have seen these have become a lot weaker in the last weeks. It´s more like a deadly downards spiral,
especially when maybe 30-50% (maybe more) of the money is about to leave the market.

400-1200+

stupid polling.. what if i said we wont go low and we will go even higher?? lol FUD polling station...pls make 1 more radio button for > whats the price now thanks

Yeah, talk about a biased poll...  ;D

EDIT: I guess I should have noticed his signature: "Meet Fonzie - Bitcointalk´s best paid troll in 2013/14"  :)

Done

I want it to go to 1$ so I can buy 20000 of them instead of just 50. This is a MMORPG where the higher lvl you are moar BTC you have, so it's the only live MMORPG where you can actually lose a lvl so be carefull.

You can use the ignore button, this will cause you less stress.
I agree with you that OP is spreading FUD and pulling numbers out of his ass.
If his posts are well thoughts and arguable, you can react with your arguments.
But most of the time his posts are from such low level that I wonder did he even finished primary school.

Relax
If you have been longer in bitcoin, you will see that the difference in percentage between ATH and bottom has become less, but in dollars it looks huge.

again fonzie.. every new fud post.. 2 days ago is huobi closing down which is not happening.. now how low can we go.. LOL..

I´mt tired from all of you, FUD FUD FUD don´t you ever feel stupid
I was called an idiot when i said that MtGox will go down, insulted when i preached that during the 800$ stability we will go down to 200-400$. I have made nearly perfect TA analysis in the time between 720 and 550$ pingpong where i posted my positions BEFORE and not in hindsight. All those people that insulted me during these times never appeared again. It´s always the same with you lame ass trolls.
Big mouth first but when my preachings come true you all dissapear.

OP forgot the option 0 dollar, bitcoin died.
 ;D

I have a pessimistic view, yes. But at least i don´t insult anyone personally like most of you bulls do all the time(not you).
I also don´t plan to buy back lower. I will leave the market after i have closed my shorts.

Fixed

Talkin about "manipulation"

It´s manipulation when someone posts the "anatomy of a bubble" chart pic but when someone else is postin trains and rockets, it´s ok?
Manipulation = prices below 300$ in 2014
Spot on predictions from smart people = 10000$ in 3 months?

Am i right?

We are going to sub zero and everyone who has ever expressed an interest in Bitcoin will each receive a personalised micrometeorite through the centre of their forehead.

FACT

Posted by Fonzie 3/22 after buying a bunch of btc:

"Fuck me, i blame it on those 350ug acid tabs, but i´m feelin bullish for BTC again.
I hope i won´t get burned for all that love about BTC(price).  Cheesy
Just bought 30 new coins.
If we go below 490$ i will never post again, promised."

Fonzie, you have posted like 50 times in the last 24 hours alone, please explain your broken promise   ??? ???

What is there to explain - he is just a trashcan attention whore, stop responding to him, put him on ignore, let him seek attention somewhere else

You are right, i have broken my word. It won´t happen again. If we should go beyond 559$ ever again i will leave or the admins should feel free to ban me. Promised(sober).

I also used those coins ; after the reversal seemed unlikely and it turned out as a bull trap, to increase my shorts which turned out profitable.

Please stop posting in my threads, i thought you have me on ignore. If you post in them you will give them a bump to the top.

There has got to be some mental illness or imbalance in there somewhere.

If I asked someone on their deathbed what they had done with their one precious life and the response was - 'well, I spent countless hours a week ejaculating the same point of view over and over again across the internet about a subject that doesn't care about me at people who ignore or immediately discard my efforts', I would have cause to wonder.  

This forum is a mixture of speculators and crazy druggies. I guess that's what happens when bitcoin and silk road go hand in hand.

Everyone feel free to insult me. If you think this will rescue Bitcoin, go on.

Correction - I hope it's mental illness or imbalance. The alternative is too disheartening to contemplate.

i think i dreamt something like in the hundreds, but dreams are irrational

We are not able to raise the price, Here are the 99% of people without money or little money.
This price can only be raised artificially,something like mtgox.
All of this was a scam, in purpose of getting rich the owner of the mining company.
And now bitcoin price go to litecoin level.

Bitcoin will drop a bit, but the change are more likely to move sideways.
Although more and more shops are accepting BTC through Bitpay, there is nothing new yet.
I order a lot food via
http://www.thuisbezorgd.nl/
They have a BTC payment option.
Even I, a fulltime nerd don't think it is convience enough to use a computer to pay via BitPay.
It has to be easier, because people who don't know how computers works have to get involved using BTC.
It has to be easier than internet transactions, only then BTC will rally again.

For people who don't know it yet.
The end is near.
Hardware wallets are in almost out of BETA.
If it is easier to use than internet transactions, you don't want to be at the other side.

http://www.bit-sky.com/index.php/hardwarewallet
http://www.butterflylabs.com/bitcoin-hardware-wallet/
http://www.bitcointrezor.com/

Apoption has grown a lot , i agree.
But most of the merchants accepting Bitcoin are just using payment processors like Bitpay that add additional selling pressure on the exchanges. Most of the Bitcoins spent are from hoarders, holders and probably won´t get rebought.

Check this:
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/9060/iayo.jpg (http://img33.imageshack.us/i/iayo.jpg/)View Screen Capture (http://img33.imageshack.us/i/iayo.jpg/)

And, I can buy everything with my VISA card, everywhere accepted, quickly, easily and securely.

You don't have a VISA card.
Go back to India where you originaly came from
Stop pretending to be Russian.

Why are you angry, just be real.

Analizing your old posts reveal a lot information about you.

My VISA still work in Russian bank, but I do not care for it because I have an alternative,
it is Chinese Union Pay card, and if it is necessary, I can always replace my VISA card with Union Pay card,
wich is also everywhere accepted, quickly, easily and securely.

Make a photo with your fake Russian name and the Union Pay card or it is not true.

You want to report me in to the tax administration ?

He seems angry cause he probably missed the BTC shorting train. Chooo chooo

Edit:It´s not too late!  :D :D :D

I am not angry.
But I am posting FUD against FUD.

true,
Still can be make a good profit, the price will go much down, 150-250 before summer,
With leverage trading can make a big profit.

what makes u so sure 150-250? are you god?

Now fall at 320, then jump to 380, after fall to 250.........

Just for last 3 days, is generated about 12000 new bitcoin,and are not sold.

this is not predictable dude.. a person can sudden set a new order or a person selling can suddently cancel his order..
looking at the order table dont work 100% LOL things changes look at the number of bitcoins 12mil+ and look at the number of people in this world.. and look at the number of wallets that is being created in blockchain alone tells u how strong bitcoin is..

99.9% of people here, for the sake of personal profit,
Nobody is interested in Bitcoin, everyone wants pure cash.

Whole world is spinning around money, it is the old rules.  ;)

No we want to buy stuff in the long run like Islands, private jets, cars, etc. We do not need $$ for that, you can already buy Islands, Yachts, Cars, Jets, etc. with BTC.
Yes we are all here for personal profit  8)

Bitcoin is not currency and never will be !

http://techcrunch.com/2014/03/25/irs-rules-bitcoin-is-property-not-currency/

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-03-07/japan-says-bitcoin-is-not-a-currency-amid-calls-for-regulation.html

I clearly saw the number $199 come forward in a dream. But rationally I think there are two options from here: either triple bottom is confirmed and confidence slowly returns and price goes up from here, or support gets broken and we bottom out at the low 300s/high 200s. I have no way of telling which of the two is more likely, and if it touches $199 I will start taking my dreams more seriously and buy with everything I have. :P

I know for it,

People say:
When is the price was 1200 usd,
If price falls to "X" USD I will buy all, after 4  month we have 450 usd  and nobody buys.
So it's lies come to an end.

+1

I think this is where the rubber hits the road with valuation.

Lets say we speed up your example and everyone is watching Bitcoin go from $1200 to $1 in a matter of a month.

At what value would people say screw it...I don't care if Bitcoin is going to $1 I am going to buy some.  Personally, I see that value in the double digits somewhere.

I'd suggest that fonzie have his poll creation privileges revoked.

Where is the negative option?

I think it's gonna stay stabilised quickly now and than in a few months again go higher bit by bit. I hope so.

in the end noone kno, some say there is a massive rally going on soon, some think it's about to crash to the ground.

Last 3 days, bull tried four times, but apparently impossible to break 455-460 usd !

http://www.dodaj.rs/f/1k/c3/30mAYqpr/fireshot-screen-capture-.jpg

It´s pretty obvious that this wannabe bull will fail once again.

what is your charting software?

Paint from windows.

XD ok, anyway is there an actual charting software for alt-coins? i find cryptsy charts are a bit unreliable (and i can t plot indicators over it)

 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Classic

How do you know those people didn't actually buy at the price they said they would? I've bought some new coins myself between 400 and 610 the past two months, even though this raises my average entry price since I got in much lower. I just feel this is a good price right now so I bought. I would never go into debt or use all my fiat to buy though as I think that's a dangerous and stupid thing to do.

You're in the minority, that most people act so, today's price would be about $ 1,000,and not $ 450 as it is now
It is so simple and logical.

If you try to make a correct pool, then remove the part with unrealistic and delusional option... it's not fair to influence the answer.

Otherwise, if you are just looking to FUD, and create panic change the topic and say something like I want you all to say we go as low as 0$ :)

My two cents is that we hit the bottom: BTC will not get any lower than this. It will hover around the 430-450 USD mark, and then it's going to skyrocket again. What you all guys are ignoring is that BTC is a FINITE coin. It can have 21.000.000 only in total, and if from this amount some gets lost (people simply can't find their wallets, etc.), or "seized" by some government in a way or other, or China will ban it, and people from China will not be able to have their coins on the market the value actually HAS TO INCREASE, because bitcoin will become even more rare.

Who cares for bitcoin ?
99.9% of people on the planet do not know what is the Bitcoin.

well it doesn't matter how rare it can be if noone wants to buy it; game is over. You can't rely on rarity alone to price something, demand has to play a role at some point.

If i were to have a book that was a unique exemplaire but noone ever heard of it, well it would have no value no matter how unique and rare it is, so that reasonning is a part of the value system but not the whole of it. Other factors going into equation than rarity there

bitcoin is headings major support, look at the long term chart for it since it started. Bitcoin won't just crash outright overnight and a lot of people still think its valuable. Look at the chart on this article for proof of bitcoins support http://www.panture.com/bitcoin-support-level/

honestly people are being mislead by the media and are forgetting that BTC is very innovative and leads virtual currencies. Bitcoin will be around for years to come and theres no questioning that

I hope this scenario becomes reality, until then it is just a guesstimate..

Hence the immsense growth potential ;)

it not currency and never will be, Bitcoin is a joke.

Joke is the person who thinks BTC is a joke...

He does not think so, on the contrary, he's simply trying to get people to sell them at a lower price :P

Are you saying bitcoin itself is a joke, or virtual currency is a joke?

In reality, virtual currency has been a mainstay for centuries.

Crypto currency may be relatively new, compared to green stamps of the golden era or marboro miles or flyer miles and all that but the virtual currency is long standing across the world. It's got zero intrinsic value but it's considered by everyone who uses it to be valuable and worth trading for products and services.

It's not the same as if Joe Blow walked into American Airlines and handed them a flower sticker and said hey, I want a ticket.

But the airlines conjured up the invisible equivalent in frequent flyer miles that add up and they can be used to actually fly on the plane somewhere.

Virtual currency is a way of life and it's not going anywhere. If anything, it's become ubiquitous throughout the world.

Crypto currency would be treated much the same way but has enormous difference to "green stamps" - and to say it's a joke and will die off as a scam or fad is to ignore the reality that governments would've ignored its very existence if it was nonsense. People demanding that Monopoly Money be considered currency would be laughed at. Not the first store would make a second's worth of effort to accommodate it as a unit of trade.

That they ARE accommodating it, that they are accepting it, that they are using it, doing business with it, having hearings about it, making rulings on it, and people are putting world currencies into it in trade and high investments and using it to buy and sell real stuff...society isn't treating Bitcoin or cryptocurrency as a joke or a scam or a fad.

They're making room for it in real ways...because they recognize its power, its security, and its potential as a game changer.

It's not going away anymore than the internet is going away and it'll be treated by governments and banks in the same manner - they'll treat it like a joke for awhile, then sit up and take notice, then make a bunch of rules and policies that will go ignored, then they'll give in and use it...or be considered a 3rd world entity nobody's going to deal with...and they'll try to make laws and enforce bans but it won't be anymore effective than banning p2p, digital media downloads, copyright, music files, movies, tv shows, gambling, sex, or anything else that is made possible by virtue of the internet....all these will be made just as possible by virtue of the crypto currency and payment system, like bitcoin, that will just evolve and become a way of life.

If you seriously can't see that, the only conclusion to be drawn is that you're 1. a troll who knows better and just having a go at people for the lulz, or 2. not smart enough to know what comes after inhale...and in either case, does not change the reality of bitcoin or its future.

As for the countries who are marginalized due to communism, well, as is the case in all populations, they have a choice: either make a damn choice to join the 21st century and rise up in revolution and overthrow communist regimes, or stay on their knees and comply with what someone else tells them to do because they're scared of getting shot. All this kind of rulership is seriously antiquated...people need to get up off their knees.

The rest of the world though is going through a paradigm shift...

Just look.

Lie. You aren't going anywhere.  If the price goes lower it will become more volatile %wise and thus more profitable to trade. Plus, you have nothing better to do.

I would like to nominate this for post of the day! Great read, thank you very much.

Sure everyone belives your next promise after broken one you are just a troll.

I think that in a few weeks, when the dust has settled, we will see a months long period of stability +-<10%

Oh, I see. So if your 6+ month prediction comes true exactly like you predict it you will quit, until it changes. Dude, shut up with this crap. A year from now you'll still be doing drugs, and hanging around doing btc trading because there's nothing else for you to do.

to remind you:

There is no investor in Bitcoin,
The market is oversaturated with Bitcoin
every day is generated about 4000 new bitcoin which have nobody to pay
People are becoming aware of what is Bitcoin, and speculation does not work anymore.
Case MtGox killed all hope in Bitcoin
The previous price jumps have been artificially, by MtGox and any mining hardware manufacturer.
The mining factor is too small for any serious action,and time is to quit the game (3.5 cents/Gh an 24h)
A major player China 15 th april 2014 out from game.

New option added. -100$
Legit TA from WALL STREET Experts:

CNBC Video

"It hasn´t completly collapsed yet"

Ross sees Bitcoin trading in a descending triangle with a base at the $500 level. Given that its peak was around $1,100, the triangle would project a downside of equal magnitude in the opposite direction. In this case, that would be negative $100.

"Now, that doesn't really make sense," says Ross. "But, given the recent history – given the MtGox scandal – I could see this thing at negative. It could actually cost you money to own this thing at the end of the day. It could just disappear that quickly."

http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/talking-numbers/this-could-be-the-end-of-the-bitcoin-era-220746326.html

*spits coffee*

that even made me LOL

Have you noticed his sig?
https://www.jpmorgan.com
Maybe he's joking/pretending to be an obvious troll.
Why Fonzie, why.....?

China is never "out of the game"

Hey, if you´re interested in cryptocurrencies you should check out J.P.Morgan coin which will be launched soon.
It looks very promising.

http://money.cnn.com/2013/12/10/technology/bitcoin-jpmorgan/

If he makes a forum about it, promise to troll there too?

Here is an analyis from a neutral well schooled mind.

It´s somehow a funny coincidence that it matches with this one:

http://www.thedailysheeple.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/anatomy-of-a-bubble.png
I hope everyone has an exit or Plan B if we should go down below 100$. It is not unpossible,it becomes even more and more likely if China should be really out of the game.
Do you have a Plan B , think about it?

$2476 by the end of 2014  :-*

I dont think so,

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/7910/iti9.jpg (http://img89.imageshack.us/i/iti9.jpg/)View Screen Capture (http://img89.imageshack.us/i/iti9.jpg/)

So you think that this time is the End Times for btc, is that what your graph is suggesting - that THIS downturn is it forever and BTC is dead, move along, nothing to see here folks done?

I've noticed this a lot - even though I am not an expert and probably at elementary school level on markets of any sort of understanding there but all through this forum the ones shouting "bitcoin is dead" do this every.single.time there's a down turn as if that downturn is the end of it, wrap it up, let's all go home, defunct...but in spite of this, neither dump their coin nor actually pack it up and go home...they've all been here for what 2 or 3 years doing this same death knell song and dance every time there's a drop.

I mean if you can't figure out long term value and see btc has a long future ahead of it, and that up and down is dynamic and ONGOING, you are delusional.

I hope you don't do sex this way - on the down thrust you're done and roll over... ::)

This time is much different.

Just watch how the decline continues, fifth month in a row.

I keep hearing this

OMG THEY'VE KILLED FRITZ!!!

http://i61.tinypic.com/33xaau0.jpg

(or if you're younger, "Kenny")


every few days...

but still see all sorts of businesses accommodating btc, changing policy to accept it, all kinds of btc buzz about it, and because of it, btc still has enormous room to escalate in value...so it's not dead.

It might tank down a bit but it's not flatlining and it's never flatlined and because it solves the problems for people that it solved, it's not going to flatline.

Come back in a decade and then holler btc is dead. It could be by then but now? No way...it's got a good half dozen year shelf life, and even then some I'd wager.

The commercial internet for the general public was rolled out about the early 90s and took a good 5 years for it to kinda catch on. But by 2k, even in spite of the Y2K COMPUTERS ARE EVIL IT'S GAME OVER protests, not only was it not dead, it didn't do shit but grow and flourish. Five years later, things like Twitter, Facebook, smart phones, and tablets hit and it's still going strong.

Btc had its initial 5 years of it just being introduced to the public and early adopters. THIS marks the next 5 year period where new products hit the market that make btc a household name...this is bitcoin's y2k...it's going UP from here, after this y2k panic crap settles down.

3 must be Red Bull, gives you wings  ;)

It´s not about 100$ moves anymore it´s about how much it moves percentage. 100$ move@1000$ is nowadays a 40$ move@400$. Mind-blowing?
Try again

OP: Does the "spooky butt" lady pay you to start Bearish threads with ALL CAPS?

http://www.vndlmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/butt.jpg?w=743