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update: See the third post for more resources.

https://i.imgur.com/YK32P.jpg

Settle down.


More here:
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2012/01/obama-signs-defense-bill-with-serious-reservations/1

heh, settle down?  In what way does a simple post with a single image implicate the status of being or not being settled?  Also see https://secure.aclu.org/site/Advocacy?cmd=display&page=UserAction&id=3909

Perhaps in custom of some of my previous posts (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=47768.0;all), if I had created a new thread with like 100 images and perhaps flashing (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=52599.msg627839#msg627839) and colored text and marquees and stuff, then it would be more easily recognizable that there is some unsettledness in which one or more others could respond suggestively to settle down.  However, a single image relative to a particular topic to trigger "settle down" response seems perhaps considerate of that the mere idea of promoting or spreading awareness of the particular topic, message or idea is implicative of that something is wrong and thus the existence behind it (me) must 'settle down.'

Now that I have responded to your 'settle down' with the previous message, perhaps a kind of 'settle down' type of statement may seem more appropriate as it is related to a kind of defensiveness that may be unnecessary.  But, the initial 'settle down' suggestion seems unnecessary also.

So, I welcome others to promote and encourage more 'settle down'ness in the case that this topic is hijacked (by the person that started it) from the initial topic of discussion to a discussion about settling down and other related ideas.

tl;dr: I've been unsettled before, but as of my original post, that is not one of those times.  Settle here (http://www.globalgamenetwork.com/westward_trail.html)

reddit discussion (http://www.reddit.com/r/occupywallstreet/comments/ny8q6/urgent_occupiers_use_this_graphic_to_spread_to/) of image in original post

In addition to the image in the first post, which was the content I stumbled upon initially bringing this information to my attention, and I redistributed it to others such as by creating this thread, I also am openly including reference to additional sources and coverage of this information (and exposing the media participants that are not covering or have any mention of it) so that there is no bias expressed.  Note that I'm merely referencing contents created by others and am organizing them into a centralized location, but particularly starting off with a single introductory image (which again is not preferred over any other, but is merely the first encounter I had experienced as a human that surfs the Internet randomly looking for new and interesting things, maybe sharing them if they are worthy.)

abc news: no mention yet (http://abcnews.go.com/search?searchtext=national+defense+authorization+act)
aclu article (http://www.aclu.org/national-security/president-obama-signs-indefinite-detention-bill-law)
alex jones video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdxXhn3We7U)
al jazeera article (http://www.aljazeera.com/news/americas/2012/01/20121133832240620.html)
the arizona republic: no mention yet (http://www.azcentral.com/results.php?catId=&aff=1100&searchkeyword=&searchcategory=*&cx=015840973018584549539%3A4mugrvjtm6k&cof=FORID%3A9&ie=UTF-8&q=national+defense+authorization+act&address=)
associated press article (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_OBAMA_DEFENSE_BILL?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT)
bay news 9: no mention yet (http://www.baynews9.com/search?q=national+defense+authorization+act)
bbc world news: no mention yet (http://www.bbc.co.uk/search/news/?q=national%20defense%20authorization%20act)
bloomberg article (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-12-31/obama-signs-defense-authorization-law-with-own-interpretations-on-custody.html)
chicago sun-times: no mention yet (http://www.suntimes.com/search/index.html?search=national+defense+authorization+act&page_size=10&newSearchSession=1&sectionList=suntimes)
chicago tribune article (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/la-na-obama-defense-20120101,0,1536109.story)
chicagoland television: no mention yet (http://www.cltv.com/search/dispatcher.front?Query=national+defense+authorization+act&target=adv_article)
cleveland plain dealer: no mention yet (http://search.cleveland.com/national+defense+authorization+act)
cnbc: no mention yet (http://search.cnbc.com/main.do?target=all&keywords=national%20defense%20authorization%20act&categories=exclude)
cnn: no mention yet (http://www.cnn.com/search/?query=national+defense+authorization+act&x=0&y=0&primaryType=mixed&sortBy=date&intl=false)
contra costa times: no mention yet (http://www.contracostatimes.com/circare/html/sca_template.jsp?sortBy=mngi&similarTo=&similarType=find&runSearch=true&type=any&aff=3&query=national+defense+authorization+act&searchbutton.x=0&searchbutton.y=0&view=entiresitesppublished)
the dallas morning news: no mention yet (http://www.dallasnews.com/site-search/?service=search&engine=solr&search_type=site-search-basic&articleTypeFacets=news,bcVideo,gallery,recipe,cars,shopping&pageLength=10&dateFacets=1,7,30&searchString=national+defense+authorization+act)
denver post: no mention (http://search.denverpost.com/sp?keywords=national+defense+authorization+act&aff=1100&skin=100&searchbutton.x=0&searchbutton.y=0)
detroit free press: no mention yet (http://search.freep.com/sp?aff=1100&skin=&keywords=national%20defense%20authorization%20act)
examiner article (http://www.examiner.com/independent-in-salt-lake-city/obama-signs-ndaa-into-law-dismantles-bill-of-rights)
fox news: no mention yet (http://www.foxnews.com/search-results/search?q=national+defense+authorization+act)
herald tribune: no mention yet (http://www.heraldtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/search?category=search&crit=national%20defense%20authorization%20act)
hln: no mention yet (http://www.hlntv.com/search/content/national%20defense%20authorization%20act)
houston chronicle: no mention yet (http://www.chron.com/search/?action=search&channel=home&search=1&firstRequest=1&query=national+defense+authorization+act&x=0&y=0&searchindex=property)
huffington post article (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/31/obama-defense-bill_n_1177836.html)
khou: no mention yet (http://www.khou.com/results?search=site&keywords=national+defense+authorization+act&searchbutton=Go)
kotv: news on 6: no mention yet (http://www.newson6.com/)
kthv: today's thv: no mention yet (http://search.todaysthv.com/default.aspx?ct=r&q=national%20defense%20authorization%20act)
ktvb: no mention yet (http://www.ktvb.com/results?search=site&keywords=national+defense+authorization+act&searchbutton=Go)
kvue: no mention yet (http://www.kvue.com/results?search=site&keywords=national+defense+authorization+act&searchbutton=Go)
kwtv: news on 9: no mention yet (http://www.news9.com/)
los angeles times article (http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-obama-defense-20120101,0,1970762.story)
msnbc: no mention yet (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/?id=11881780&q=national+defense+authorization+act&search=&p=1&st=1&sm=user)
necn: new england cable news: no mention yet (http://www.necn.com/searchNECN/search/search?q=national+defense+authorization+act&_search=Go)
news channel 8: no mention yet (http://www.wjla.com/search/?key=national+defense+authorization+act)
the philadelphia inquirer: no mention yet (http://philly.newspaperdirect.com/epaper/viewer.aspx)
news12: no mention yet (http://news12.com/)
news14 carolina: no mention yet (http://charlotte.news14.com/content/search/?currentUri=http://charlotte.news14.com/Default.aspx&searchtarget=news14&searchterm=national%20defense%20authorization%20act&SecID=14)
new york post: no mention yet (http://search.nypost.com/search?q=national+defense+authorization+act&sort=date%3AD%3AS%3Ad1&entsp=a&client=redesign_frontend&entqr=0&oe=UTF-8&ud=1&getfields=*&proxystylesheet=redesign_frontend&output=xml_no_dtd&site=default_collection&filter=p&search_submit=Search)
the new york times article (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/01/us/politics/obama-signs-military-spending-bill.html?) (No mention of the specific bill by name: NDAA or National Defense Authorization Act)
newsday: no mention yet (http://www.newsday.com/search/7.1638259?q=national+defense+authorization+act)
nwcn: northwest cable news: no mention yet (http://www.nwcn.com/results?search=site&keywords=national+defense+authorization+act&searchbutton=Go)
ny daily news: no mention yet (http://www.nydailynews.com/search-results/search-results-7.113?q=national+defense+authorization+act&selecturl=site)
ny1: no mention yet (http://www.ny1.com/content/pages/search/?currentUri=http://www.ny1.com/default.aspx&searchtarget=ny1&searchterm=national%20defense%20authorization%20act&SecID=243)
the oregonian: no mention yet (http://search.oregonlive.com/national+defense+authorization+act)
pbs: no mention yet (http://www.pbs.org/search/?q=national%20defense%20authorization%20act)
philadelphia daily news: no mention yet (http://search.philly.com/search?search=y&proxystylesheet=philly&getfields=*&client=philly&sort=date%3AD%3AL%3Ad1&entqr=3&entsp=a&oe=UTF-8&ie=UTF-8&ud=1&q=national+defense+authorization+act&Submit=search)
rt: russia today: no mention yet (http://rt.com/search/?q=national+defense+authorization+act)
salon article (http://open.salon.com/blog/watchingfrogsboil/2012/01/01/ndaa_2012_obama_uses_new_years_eve_to_usher_in_fascism)
the san diego union-tribune: no mention yet (http://www.signonsandiego.com/search/?q=national+defense+authorization+act)
san francisco chronicle: no mention yet (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/qws/ff/qr?Submit=S&term=national+defense+authorization+act&st=s)
san jose mercury news: no mention yet (http://www.mercurynews.com/circare/html/sca_template.jsp?runSearch=true&query=national+defense+authorization+act&searchButton.x=0&searchButton.y=0&view=entiresitesppublished)
the seattle times: no mention yet (http://search.nwsource.com/search?from=ST&searchtype=network&query=national+defense+authorization+act&x=0&y=0)
the star-ledger: no mention yet (http://search.nj.com/national+defense+authorization+act)
think progress article (http://thinkprogress.org/security/2011/12/31/396018/breaking-obama-signs-defense-authorization-bill/) (3643+ reddit comments (http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/nxu96/obama_signs_ndaa_with_signing_statement/))
pcnc: pittsburgh cable news channel (also wpxi): no mention yet (http://www.wpxi.com/search/form.html?searchType=site&cx=partner-pub-6068200365010040%3A6uskt3qfbjw&cof=FORID%3A9&ie=ISO-8859-1&qt=national+defense+authorization+act&sa.x=0&sa.y=0&stories=on&video=on)
star tribune: no mention yet (http://search.startribune.com/search?stq=national+defense+authorization+act&q=national+defense+authorization+act+&btnG=&content_updates=A&sort=date%3AD%3AS%3Ad1&x=0&y=0&entsp=a&dnavs=)
tampa bay times: no mention yet (http://www.tampabay.com/google/search.php?hidden01=&hidden02=&hidden03=&hidden04=&hidden05=&hidden06=&hidden07=&hidden08=&hidden09=&hidden10=&hidden11=&hidden12=&hidden13=&hidden14=&cx=005271800417660358352%3Adubhaachbpe&cof=FORID%3A9&ie=UTF-8&q=national+defense+authorization+act&choices=site&x=0&y=0)
usa today article (http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/story/2011-12-31/obama-signs-defense-bill/52305648/1)
the wall street journal: no mention yet (http://europe.wsj.com/search/term.html?KEYWORDS=national%20defense%20authorization%20act&mod=DNH_S)
the washington post article (http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/obama-signs-defense-bill-pledges-to-maintain-legal-rights-of-terror-suspects/2011/12/31/gIQATzbkSP_story.html)
wfaa: no mention yet (http://www.wfaa.com/results?search=site&keywords=national+defense+authorization+act&searchbutton=Go)
wwltv: no mention yet (http://www.wwltv.com/results?search=site&keywords=national+defense+authorization+act&searchbutton=Go)
ynn: austin: no mention yet (http://austin.ynn.com/content/search/?currentUri=http://austin.ynn.com/Default.aspx&searchtarget=news14&searchterm=national%20defense%20authorization%20act&SecID=12)
ynn: buffalo: no mention yet (http://buffalo.ynn.com/content/search/?currentUri=http://buffalo.ynn.com/Default.aspx&searchtarget=news14&searchterm=national%20defense%20authorization%20act&SecID=36153)
ynn: capital region: no mention yet (http://capitalregion.ynn.com/content/search/?currentUri=http://capitalregion.ynn.com/Default.aspx&searchtarget=news14&searchterm=national%20defense%20authorization%20act&SecID=345)
ynn: central new york: no mention yet (http://centralny.ynn.com/content/search/?currentUri=http://centralny.ynn.com/Default.aspx&searchtarget=news14&searchterm=national%20defense%20authorization%20act&SecID=1108)
ynn: rochester: no mention yet (http://rochester.ynn.com/content/search/?currentUri=http://rochester.ynn.com/Default.aspx&searchtarget=news14&searchterm=national%20defense%20authorization%20act&SecID=36061)

I like how some of the mainstream media news sources have no mention yet of NDAA being signed into law but still have some results referencing NDAA from weeks ago.

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"I've been reading NDAA (H.R 1540) and here are the actual facts (http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/nybmn/ive_been_reading_ndaa_hr_1540_and_here_are_the/)" - Reg717 (http://www.reddit.com/user/Reg717)

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NDAA FAQ: A Guide for the Perplexed (http://www.lawfareblog.com/2011/12/ndaa-faq-a-guide-for-the-perplexed/)

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"The 14 Senators who voted against NDAA. All the rest should be tried for treason. (http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/nt77r/the_14_senators_who_voted_against_ndaa_all_the/c3brs66)" - AsABlackMan (http://www.reddit.com/user/AsABlackMan)

Now that that's settled I, for one, appreciate you starting this thread and bringing this needed awareness to my, now our, attention.

~Bruno~

I've noticed you've been updating Post #3, hence opting to not quote it. I just watched the Alex Jones video. Here's my comment: Thanks for starting my New Year off with this bad start!  ;)

Keep up the good fight, mizerydearia.

~Bruno~

EDIT: Your list in Post #3 keeps getting longer! SETTLE DOWN!!!

So, then, that part of the legislation wasn't signed into law?

Correct.

So, then, would you consider the OP "fearmongering"?

I consider it crying wolf.  There will be great challenges to our liberties in the coming years... if you keep crying wolf, no one will believe it when the actually strip away our due process rights.

My first encounter with this topic was based on the image referenced in the first post.  As can be seen in third post I have expanded to account for a multitude of sources of information.  The topic of the thread is also not so opinionated or biased other than merely establishing the consideration that the prevalence, importance or value of the particular event is of significance more so than perhaps other contents or events, thus 'bang.'

That image is very misleading.  Not only is the information inaccurate, it pins the bill on Obama.  The truth is, Obama refused to sign into law the provisions that authorized the detention of US citizens, forcing congress to remove them.  Perhaps it would be good to verify information before repeating it?

Personally? I'm proud to be CANADIAN!

I'm not so sure.  As you can see in the third post, I am repeating ALL THE INFORMATIONS relative to this issue, particularly, one informative post per resource (particularly covering yesterday's event involving Barack Obama's signing NDAA bill), and particularly focusing on the major resources, including those that that are considered biased, corrupted, evil media organizations.  I am fairly certain there is at least some misinformation.  For those that are concerned about the original post as being misinformation, thanks for participating to clarify it and to those that provide factual informations or analyses so that everyone can benefit from being more aware of true facts (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0111503/).

think progress article (http://thinkprogress.org/security/2011/12/31/396018/breaking-obama-signs-defense-authorization-bill/) (3639, and counting, reddit comments (http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/nxu96/obama_signs_ndaa_with_signing_statement/))

Fixed!


Translated:

This does not mean that further administrations will not authorize this shit that I just signed into law. In fact, you can count on them into doing so. Thank you very much. I'm going to have another beer now to celebrate the New Year, then I'm going to fuck the holy shit out of my old lady, an important family tradition, one which adds value to our relationship.

These are the Texas Representatives votes on the NDAA
https://i.imgur.com/qFEG6.png

It amazes me to read 31 nut cases refusing to follow the crowd.

This...

The patriot act already covers this shit anyways...it's just bolstering the expired portions.

On a side note, how was the list of coverage created? It seems like it would require thousands and thousands of hours of reading transcripts and publications, not just googling shit.

I'm not sure how mizerydearia did it, but I would have gone to each site and search NDAA, checking the date of the latest article. Upon seeing none, I would have considered that they haven't published anything yet. (or something like that, I would have done)

BANG!

Yeah.  I searched for 'NDAA' and also 'National Defense Authorization Act' because some articles didn't contain reference of NDAA.  Also, I noticed even one article didn't contain either of those references, but I found it from other methods.  So, it may be likely that the list is not entirely accurate and if the list is at all useful, it may be more useful to prepare it in a wiki so that everyone can update it rather than just myself.

He's cute.

Exactly.
Also, its unclear if the current bill applies to US citizens or not. Its quite ambiguous, and thats probably by design. That means it will be up to the supreme court to decide one day, but that will only happen after US citizens have been detained by the military for who knows how many years. And even then it would be surprising to see the US supreme court uphold the constitution for once.

Last point; its very disappointing Obama signed this, but its nor fair to put the blame with him, rather than congress primarily. Particularly all the advocates of "limited government".