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Title: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on April 12, 2014, 12:44:26 PM
Hello,

I have made a website, where you can compare profitability of various altcoins.
Coins with only LTC market are also included(more to come), they are marked with "(L)" by an exchange name.

Here is the link: http://www.whattomine.com/ (http://www.whattomine.com/)
For SHA256&Scrypt only: http://www.whattomine.com/asic (http://www.whattomine.com/)
If you are in need of basic json response, try this: http://www.whattomine.com/coins.json (http://www.whattomine.com/coins.json) | http://www.whattomine.com/asic.json (http://www.whattomine.com/asic.json)

Enjoy  ;)

Future updates:
-add exchange volume to display in market cap column DONE!
-add profitability of 3 day / 7 day DONE!
-add "sort by" drop down menu DONE!
-add filter for different algorithms DONE!
-add hash rate / power conversion from scrypt DONE!
-add charts for difficulty, exchange rate

-add sha256 ASIC section DONE!
-change gpu section to calculate profitability vs LTC DONE!
-add single coin pages with calculator to show more detailed data DONE!
-add Load/Save section for multiple settings DONE!


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: Equate on April 12, 2014, 01:30:20 PM
Looks good , how soon is website updated ?


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on April 12, 2014, 01:32:44 PM
New data is fetched every 3 minutes - both for exchanges and stats. Glad you like the looks ;)


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: Thirtybird on April 12, 2014, 01:32:49 PM
continuing from the UTC thread...

UTC is not scrypt-N, it is scrypt-chacha (what you call scrypt jane), and not all scrypt-chacha coins are on the same N factor.  If fact, there are quite a few that are on 14, UTC is on 12, and some are below 10.

If you ever do figure it out though, there are some nice things that can be done with that information :)



Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on April 12, 2014, 01:36:52 PM
continuing from the UTC thread...

UTC is not scrypt-N, it is scrypt-chacha (what you call scrypt jane), and not all scrypt-chacha coins are on the same N factor.  If fact, there are quite a few that are on 14, UTC is on 12, and some are below 10.

If you ever do figure it out though, there are some nice things that can be done with that information :)



Yeah I am a bit puzzled what to do with chacha.
I am a miner owning currently 280x and 290, so everytime new n-factor kicks in, I check the default hashrates and extrapolate the coefficients. I think it is impossible to predict it for factors that did not happen yet.

Edit: If you have any suggestions, feel free to post here or contact me through form on site. Email can be left blank.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: coinnewbit on April 12, 2014, 01:37:49 PM
thanks for the site!


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: Thirtybird on April 12, 2014, 01:41:00 PM
continuing from the UTC thread...

UTC is not scrypt-N, it is scrypt-chacha (what you call scrypt jane), and not all scrypt-chacha coins are on the same N factor.  If fact, there are quite a few that are on 14, UTC is on 12, and some are below 10.

If you ever do figure it out though, there are some nice things that can be done with that information :)



Yeah I am a bit puzzled what to do with chacha.
I am a miner owning currently 280x and 290, so everytime new n-factor kicks in, I check the default hashrates and extrapolate the coefficients. I think it is impossible to predict it for factors that did not happen yet.

Plus, two identical cards, differing only in memory amount will give very different hash rates when you start to get up there in N factors.  My R7 240 4 GB card is significantly more efficient at mining YACoin than your 290 because you've got to run a lookup-gap somewhere around 8, where as I can run a LG of 2.  You may need to do something like coinwarz does where you let the user input various hashrates for different coins


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: wasamata on April 12, 2014, 01:47:59 PM
no x11 coins and what about heavycoin and myriad

looks good so far though, but would like the above..


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on April 12, 2014, 01:49:34 PM
@Thirtybird
At one point I have considered to not disable other inputs and let users do what they wish. But that created a problem.
Lets say you are interested only in chacha mining, in comparison with scrypt coins. You enter your chacha hash rate, scrypt stays default 1000 and the list is not valid anymore. If your chacha hash rate is more than it would be on normal scrypt(lets say by a factor or 3). You now look on the list and think "Woow all those chacha coins are so profitable compared to regular scrypt".

You did raise a valid point though, I did not know that low-end card with a bunch of memory can outperform high-end with smaller RAM the same amount of RAM. Something to think about definitely.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on April 12, 2014, 01:55:21 PM
no x11 coins and what about heavycoin and myriad

looks good so far though, but would like the above..

Lately I have been a bit preoccupied, so I dont know all the latest coins with all the latest hashing functions. From the ones you listed I know about heavy and dark, but I thought it was meant to be cpu only.
I think adding more types is not a problem. Will research first.

Update: You can expect more types to appear on site. Hopefully this week.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: acuriousman on April 12, 2014, 02:37:39 PM
How about a 7 day most profitable average for all the coins? Or maybe even a 30 day average?

That'd be a great addition. :)


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: LuckyBtc on April 12, 2014, 02:40:37 PM
Website is pretty neat. Btw the pics won't load up that looks dirty lol


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on April 12, 2014, 02:43:54 PM
@acuriousman Will consider that when db catches data for that timeframe ;)

@LuckyBtc Do you mean coin logos? they open fine on few of mine computers, anyone else having problems?


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: iamreddy44 on April 12, 2014, 03:07:52 PM
Nice site!  ;D

Can you add Myriadcoin? Please!


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on April 12, 2014, 03:15:20 PM
Nice site!  ;D

Can you add Myriadcoin? Please!

Thanks! Currently I am looking into Hiro, dark, heavy and myriad.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: ivanlabrie on April 12, 2014, 04:50:55 PM
I have a hash rate database for most cards (both nvidia and amd) and algorithms and can help you out if you want.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on April 12, 2014, 05:02:19 PM
I have a hash rate database for most cards (both nvidia and amd) and algorithms and can help you out if you want.

That would be most welcome :) Can you pass me a link in a personal message?


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: Beave162 on April 12, 2014, 05:38:28 PM
Ultracoin is definitely not the most profitable to mine on any card. You need to add MyriadCoin, YACoin, YBCoin, ZCCoin. And yes... a database of ACTUAL results is needed. You are relying on random people to enter accurate information though...


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on April 12, 2014, 05:49:17 PM
Ultracoin is definitely not the most profitable to mine on any card. You need to add MyriadCoin, YACoin, YBCoin, ZCCoin. And yes... a database of ACTUAL results is needed. You are relying on random people to enter accurate information though...

Well i didnt say that ultracoin is the most profitable to mine of all coins. Some coins will be added, but not during this weekend. Not sure what you mean by that database thingy - are the scrypt-n and scrypt-jane values not correct for you?


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: Beave162 on April 12, 2014, 06:00:28 PM
My 5770 gets about 30 khash/s with scrypt... 1.4-1.5 khash/s mining YACoin (scrypt-jane NFactor=14). The website is not correct.

You aren't taking into account different NFactors. You can't just have a blanket "scrypt-jane" hashrate...


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on April 12, 2014, 06:07:07 PM
My 5770 gets about 30 khash/s with scrypt... 1.4-1.5 khash/s mining YACoin (scrypt-jane NFactor=14). The website is not correct.

You aren't taking into account different NFactors. You can't just have a blanket "scrypt-jane" hashrate...

Yes thats true, but as long I am not having Yacoin I am not misleading anyone. Scrypt-jane table applies only to ultracoin. When I add more coins I will rearrange this.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: Beave162 on April 12, 2014, 06:25:30 PM
Ugh I'm sorry. 30 khash/s is what I got with UltraCoin at the previous NFactor. I was getting around 150 khash/s with scrypt, but according to https://litecoin.info/Mining_hardware_comparison, people get up to 200 khash/s (depending on the maker of the card). So with the 5770, your site is somewhat accurate.

But yes, it doesn't take into account NFactor, so with YACoin, the results are very skewed. You are going to have issues though if you aren't taking into account VRAM. How accurate would you be with an R7 240 4GB?

Edit: I think it would go a long way to simply allow someone to edit the scrypt-jane, scrypt-n hash rates manually in addition to specifying the NFactor.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: ivanlabrie on April 12, 2014, 06:45:56 PM
Ugh I'm sorry. 30 khash/s is what I got with UltraCoin at the previous NFactor. I was getting around 150 khash/s with scrypt, but according to https://litecoin.info/Mining_hardware_comparison, people get up to 200 khash/s (depending on the maker of the card). So with the 5770, your site is somewhat accurate.

But yes, it doesn't take into account NFactor, so with YACoin, the results are very skewed. You are going to have issues though if you aren't taking into account VRAM. How accurate would you be with an R7 240 4GB?

Edit: I think it would go a long way to simply allow someone to edit the scrypt-jane, scrypt-n hash rates manually in addition to specifying the NFactor.

I have a hash rate database for most cards (both nvidia and amd) and algorithms and can help you out if you want.

That would be most welcome :) Can you pass me a link in a personal message?

I can send you some screenshots, but it took quite a bit of work, keep that in mind :p


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: Beave162 on April 12, 2014, 10:01:50 PM
BTW there is a profitability calculator for YACoin vs scrypt if you have the khash/s...

http://explorer.yacoin.org/static/calc.htm


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: ivanlabrie on April 12, 2014, 11:08:16 PM
Yup, that works rather well...problem is the kh/s rates for all cards.

I can dig up the rates for the cards if you can integrate an N factor 14 calc into the site.

There are plenty of scrypt chacha coins but no one bothers including them in calculators normally, cause it's a bit too much work.
Based on Thirtybird's work I think it's possible to devise an algorithm to calculate performance based on shader count and ram size, as well as architecture.

You'd need a few more variables to adapt the charts to all cards and coins, but it would be the ultimate mining calc.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: Beave162 on April 12, 2014, 11:28:50 PM
Yup, that works rather well...problem is the kh/s rates for all cards.

I can dig up the rates for the cards if you can integrate an N factor 14 calc into the site.

There are plenty of scrypt chacha coins but no one bothers including them in calculators normally, cause it's a bit too much work.
Based on Thirtybird's work I think it's possible to devise an algorithm to calculate performance based on shader count and ram size, as well as architecture.

You'd need a few more variables to adapt the charts to all cards and coins, but it would be the ultimate mining calc.

+1
It really would be the best mining calculator


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: rolleirf on April 13, 2014, 01:13:58 AM
Good job! I like this website, it will be better to add more algo such like X11 and more altcoin.

Different setting of GPUs will lead to various hash rate, so it is not necessary to match the actual hash rate for each algo.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on April 13, 2014, 11:19:59 AM

There are plenty of scrypt chacha coins but no one bothers including them in calculators normally, cause it's a bit too much work.
Based on Thirtybird's work I think it's possible to devise an algorithm to calculate performance based on shader count and ram size, as well as architecture.


Thirty said to me in utc thread that he hasnt figured this out yet, so it is probably bloody complicated. But that is a great idea, probably a goal to be achived at some point.

I could make second row of data imput but then the first page will look like crap :P And the thing I am most worreid about. If I let people enter their own hashrate everything will be distorted in terms of profitability.
Someone would have to fill all the input fields(probably like 15 of them if I add all the factors), for the list to actually show correct coin relations.
Thats not very practical, but then there are cookies, so you would need to do it only once, as long as your hashrate does not change.

Ok, I will let people input their hashrates with the next update that will come with some coins and wait for feedback how it feels.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: ivanlabrie on April 13, 2014, 12:55:19 PM

There are plenty of scrypt chacha coins but no one bothers including them in calculators normally, cause it's a bit too much work.
Based on Thirtybird's work I think it's possible to devise an algorithm to calculate performance based on shader count and ram size, as well as architecture.


Thirty said to me in utc thread that he hasnt figured this out yet, so it is probably bloody complicated. But that is a great idea, probably a goal to be achived at some point.

I could make second row of data imput but then the first page will look like crap :P And the thing I am most worreid about. If I let people enter their own hashrate everything will be distorted in terms of profitability.
Someone would have to fill all the input fields(probably like 15 of them if I add all the factors), for the list to actually show correct coin relations.
Thats not very practical, but then there are cookies, so you would need to do it only once, as long as your hashrate does not change.

Ok, I will let people input their hashrates with the next update that will come with some coins and wait for feedback how it feels.

I think manual input of hash rates for each coin/algo would be best for now...Adding a sample template for a few popular gpu models would be a good idea too. Let me know if you plan to implement that.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on April 14, 2014, 12:22:10 PM
Updated site with coins:

Hirocoin, darkcoin, heavycoin, myriad (scrypt for now, more to come).

You can specify your own hash rate and power consumption for every algo. Default values are still calculated from scrypt. It may be off for x11 and heavy power usage - got mixed reports.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on April 14, 2014, 08:59:50 PM
Fluttercoin has been added.

Btw check that crazy low diff on hirocoin ;)


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: ivanlabrie on April 14, 2014, 09:04:18 PM
Great work, your site is the best currently.  8)


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on April 14, 2014, 09:23:27 PM
Thank you Ivan for all the ideas, words and data you provided :)

I hope to attract more attention. Have to work on twitter profile, so much more to do ;)


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: DurbanPoison on April 14, 2014, 09:27:41 PM
Very nice site!

I'm new to mining so please forgive the noob question but how does one typically use this data? I mean, do you need to watch the screen all day to see which coins are at the top and then point your gear on them? I'm wondering if by the time you made the adjustments to mine the new coin, a bunch of large pools shifted over to it which could significantly lower the profitability.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on April 14, 2014, 09:39:24 PM
Very nice site!

I'm new to mining so please forgive the noob question but how does one typically use this data? I mean, do you need to watch the screen all day to see which coins are at the top and then point your gear on them? I'm wondering if by the time you made the adjustments to mine the new coin, a bunch of large pools shifted over to it which could significantly lower the profitability.

You are already wiser than me, when I started playing with mining :D

You can check first few most profitable coins, go on their websites, check bitcointalk threads and see which ones you like the most. As you are new to this I would recommend sticking to scrypt algorithm coins for a while. Learn your rig, learn how it behaves then start experimenting with others. X11 are very good in terms of power usage. Still most people go for revenue in btc as ultimate mining factor - thats why my site is not sorted by profit.

If in doubt, look from the top and compare profitability with profitability24. The closer they are to each other, the better chance it will be around this value tomorrow.

Edit: block explorers for HIRO are not updated, data is not correct. All coins updating.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on April 15, 2014, 07:12:54 PM
Added Caishen and Karmacoin.

You can now access json from the link on the index page.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on April 16, 2014, 06:24:54 PM
Added Saturncoin and Auroracoin.

Feel free to suggest any coins, changes, anything.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on April 18, 2014, 02:35:06 PM
Added support for nfactor = 14 jane coins.
Added YACoin (nf14) and microCoin (nf12). Remember that nf14 is tricky to mine - gpu ram seems to be most important.

Future updates:
-add exchange volume to display in market cap column
-add profitability of 3 day / 7 day / 30 day as db catches more data

-add sha256 ASIC section


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: Beave162 on April 19, 2014, 04:21:06 PM
The site looks great. I'll definitely be a frequent visitor.

A couple suggestions/comments:

--I have an R7 240. I don't know what the X11 hash rate is, nor do I necessarily care. I want to zero out that parameter as not to skew the results, but I am not allowed to. Instead, I enter in a 1. This workaround is fine for my purposes, but I feel there should be another way. Maybe you can put a checkbox next to each algorithm?

--Scrypt-N vs scrypt-jane/scrypt-chacha is really no different for mining. The Scrypt-N could be renamed Jane hash rate (Nf10).

--I would suggest "NFactor 10", "NFactor 11", "NFactor 12" and so forth for the names of each grouping--I don't think there is another type of 'NFactor'. There are many coins with scrypt-chacha out there:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aj3vcsuY-JFNdC1ITWJrSG9VeWp6QXppbVgxcm0tbGc&usp=drive_web#gid=0

--The other addition to put it over the top is again to have a 'Hardware Results (User Inputs)' link/section. People will surely rather rely on someone else's real world hash rate instead of going through the trouble of finding it themselves every time. Or you can just link to sairon's yacoin-specific version of what I'm talking about: http://yacoinwiki.tk/index.php/Mining_Hardware_Comparison

Thanks again for this great site. Do you have a YAC address for me to send a tip?


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: ivanlabrie on April 19, 2014, 06:20:28 PM
The site looks great. I'll definitely be a frequent visitor.

A couple suggestions/comments:

--I have an R7 240. I don't know what the X11 hash rate is, nor do I necessarily care. I want to zero out that parameter as not to skew the results, but I am not allowed to. Instead, I enter in a 1. This workaround is fine for my purposes, but I feel there should be another way. Maybe you can put a checkbox next to each algorithm?

--Scrypt-N vs scrypt-jane/scrypt-chacha is really no different for mining. The Scrypt-N could be renamed Jane hash rate (Nf10).

--I would suggest "NFactor 10", "NFactor 11", "NFactor 12" and so forth for the names of each grouping--I don't think there is another type of 'NFactor'. There are many coins with scrypt-chacha out there:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aj3vcsuY-JFNdC1ITWJrSG9VeWp6QXppbVgxcm0tbGc&usp=drive_web#gid=0

--The other addition to put it over the top is again to have a 'Hardware Results (User Inputs)' link/section. People will surely rather rely on someone else's real world hash rate instead of going through the trouble of finding it themselves every time. Or you can just link to sairon's yacoin-specific version of what I'm talking about: http://yacoinwiki.tk/index.php/Mining_Hardware_Comparison

Thanks again for this great site. Do you have a YAC address for me to send a tip?

Hey Beave, actually scrypt-n (like vert) is NOT scrypt chacha but normal scrypt (salsa) with a higher n factor of 11 vs 10.

As for the rest, good ideas, the checkbox thing would be nice, and adding an n factor calculator with a list of coins would make it the absolute best calc out there (which already kinda is ;) ).

I can give the op results for most cards, for all those algorithms, whenever he wants to implement a few presets.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: Beave162 on April 20, 2014, 01:40:06 AM
The site looks great. I'll definitely be a frequent visitor.

A couple suggestions/comments:

--I have an R7 240. I don't know what the X11 hash rate is, nor do I necessarily care. I want to zero out that parameter as not to skew the results, but I am not allowed to. Instead, I enter in a 1. This workaround is fine for my purposes, but I feel there should be another way. Maybe you can put a checkbox next to each algorithm?

--Scrypt-N vs scrypt-jane/scrypt-chacha is really no different for mining. The Scrypt-N could be renamed Jane hash rate (Nf10).

--I would suggest "NFactor 10", "NFactor 11", "NFactor 12" and so forth for the names of each grouping--I don't think there is another type of 'NFactor'. There are many coins with scrypt-chacha out there:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aj3vcsuY-JFNdC1ITWJrSG9VeWp6QXppbVgxcm0tbGc&usp=drive_web#gid=0

--The other addition to put it over the top is again to have a 'Hardware Results (User Inputs)' link/section. People will surely rather rely on someone else's real world hash rate instead of going through the trouble of finding it themselves every time. Or you can just link to sairon's yacoin-specific version of what I'm talking about: http://yacoinwiki.tk/index.php/Mining_Hardware_Comparison

Thanks again for this great site. Do you have a YAC address for me to send a tip?

Hey Beave, actually scrypt-n (like vert) is NOT scrypt chacha but normal scrypt (salsa) with a higher n factor of 11 vs 10.

As for the rest, good ideas, the checkbox thing would be nice, and adding an n factor calculator with a list of coins would make it the absolute best calc out there (which already kinda is ;) ).

I can give the op results for most cards, for all those algorithms, whenever he wants to implement a few presets.

Thank you, Ivan. I'm looking forward to how this site develops.

I should have been more clear. I meant that there is no difference as far as mining them. I believe I can (I think I did) mine vertcoin (N-Scrypt) with ThirtyBird's YACMiner. Is that statement wrong? If it is true and since this site is all about mining profitability, it seems pointless to distinguish the two even though they are different algorithms.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: ivanlabrie on April 20, 2014, 02:00:27 AM
The site looks great. I'll definitely be a frequent visitor.

A couple suggestions/comments:

--I have an R7 240. I don't know what the X11 hash rate is, nor do I necessarily care. I want to zero out that parameter as not to skew the results, but I am not allowed to. Instead, I enter in a 1. This workaround is fine for my purposes, but I feel there should be another way. Maybe you can put a checkbox next to each algorithm?

--Scrypt-N vs scrypt-jane/scrypt-chacha is really no different for mining. The Scrypt-N could be renamed Jane hash rate (Nf10).

--I would suggest "NFactor 10", "NFactor 11", "NFactor 12" and so forth for the names of each grouping--I don't think there is another type of 'NFactor'. There are many coins with scrypt-chacha out there:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aj3vcsuY-JFNdC1ITWJrSG9VeWp6QXppbVgxcm0tbGc&usp=drive_web#gid=0

--The other addition to put it over the top is again to have a 'Hardware Results (User Inputs)' link/section. People will surely rather rely on someone else's real world hash rate instead of going through the trouble of finding it themselves every time. Or you can just link to sairon's yacoin-specific version of what I'm talking about: http://yacoinwiki.tk/index.php/Mining_Hardware_Comparison

Thanks again for this great site. Do you have a YAC address for me to send a tip?

Hey Beave, actually scrypt-n (like vert) is NOT scrypt chacha but normal scrypt (salsa) with a higher n factor of 11 vs 10.

As for the rest, good ideas, the checkbox thing would be nice, and adding an n factor calculator with a list of coins would make it the absolute best calc out there (which already kinda is ;) ).

I can give the op results for most cards, for all those algorithms, whenever he wants to implement a few presets.

Thank you, Ivan. I'm looking forward to how this site develops.

I should have been more clear. I meant that there is no difference as far as mining them. I believe I can (I think I did) mine vertcoin (N-Scrypt) with ThirtyBird's YACMiner. Is that statement wrong? If it is true and since this site is all about mining profitability, it seems pointless to distinguish the two even though they are different algorithms.

Cards behave differently, not the same hash rates with the same gear when mining chacha n 10 vs scrypt-n (salsa) n 11 a la vert.

You tend to get way higher hash rates with chacha compared to scrypt, unless you go higher n factor wise.
Settings can be equal AFAIK. Just keep in mind chacha is equal to scrypt-n with one less n factor value (-1)


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: Beave162 on April 20, 2014, 02:09:43 AM
Cards behave differently, not the same hash rates with the same gear when mining chacha n 10 vs scrypt-n (salsa) n 11 a la vert.

You tend to get way higher hash rates with chacha compared to scrypt, unless you go higher n factor wise.
Settings can be equal AFAIK. Just keep in mind chacha is equal to scrypt-n with one less n factor value (-1)


So the exact same settings for vertcoin (NFactor 10) would be used for a chacha coin at NFactor 9? But the hash rates still won't be the same? I did not know that...


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: Thirtybird on April 20, 2014, 03:24:06 AM
Cards behave differently, not the same hash rates with the same gear when mining chacha n 10 vs scrypt-n (salsa) n 11 a la vert.

You tend to get way higher hash rates with chacha compared to scrypt, unless you go higher n factor wise.
Settings can be equal AFAIK. Just keep in mind chacha is equal to scrypt-n with one less n factor value (-1)


So the exact same settings for vertcoin (NFactor 10) would be used for a chacha coin at NFactor 9? But the hash rates still won't be the same? I did not know that...

NFactor in N-Scrypt and Scrypt-Chacha both indicate the same amount of memory is needed per hash.  The difference is simply in the mixing function, and they will have slightly different hash rates.  For what I do with the mining settings, the same settings can be used, but for profitability, they should be treated separately as there can be a difference in the hashrate.  Maybe I should do a comparison....

and yes, YACMiner can mine NScrypt.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: scottsecret on April 20, 2014, 07:29:16 AM

I love this website.  Keep up the good work.  I think GPUs are going to be pushing currencies outside of scrypt now.  Your site is on top of that.  Good job.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on April 20, 2014, 08:25:22 AM
The site looks great. I'll definitely be a frequent visitor.

A couple suggestions/comments:

--I have an R7 240. I don't know what the X11 hash rate is, nor do I necessarily care. I want to zero out that parameter as not to skew the results, but I am not allowed to. Instead, I enter in a 1. This workaround is fine for my purposes, but I feel there should be another way. Maybe you can put a checkbox next to each algorithm?


I thought about it lately and as of latest update (2 days ago), you can put 0 in every hash rate except scrypt. This is temporarily, I think checkbox will be added.

As for other comments I am with Thirty, it has to stay as it is.
Last thing about nfactor calculator - this is not on my dev road map now, but it doesnt mean that I wont ever do it.

I will be extremely busy this week, then after first week of may as well. Site will be updated and developed, dont worry.

@scottsecret Thank you :)
@Beave Just got it YGAU9ud4RWbm1C5DxVTMSFvh2zzgwh21LR

If you would like to spread the word, I have quickly added twitter follow link to the header section. Or just visit and retweet something: https://twitter.com/WhatToMine


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: Beave162 on April 20, 2014, 09:48:13 AM
@Beave Just got it YGAU9ud4RWbm1C5DxVTMSFvh2zzgwh21LR

Tip on its way. Thanks again. 0b2c2f0029520b2fbf1893bf36f02b8b4cb8344646ecc7d5cd46ddbacd437fc4

As for other comments I am with Thirty, it has to stay as it is.
Last thing about nfactor calculator - this is not on my dev road map now, but it doesnt mean that I wont ever do it.

I'm confused... ThirtyBird didn't say anything opposing my other suggestions. What are you going to do on 24 May when UTC goes to NFactor 13? And 31 May when YACoin goes to NFactor 15? You may not want to clutter the site with a whole bunch of NFactor groupings, but perhaps you could have 3 or 4 with a dropdown menu for each with NFactor options? Just an idea--I'm sure there are better ones.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: Pleasantel on April 20, 2014, 11:32:41 AM
Maybe post buy books depth on your site :D


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on April 20, 2014, 08:47:00 PM
@beave quote from thirty: " For what I do with the mining settings, the same settings can be used, but for profitability, they should be treated separately as there can be a difference in the hashrate."

I will add more nfactor inputs, not a problem. Thank you for the tip :)

@Pleasantel Added exchange volume reporting. Currently it shows value only for the highest RATE exchange. Thought about showing combined but I have mixed feelings about this.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: HarryPotterCoin on April 22, 2014, 06:22:04 AM
Interesting tool, especially for newbie.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: Beave162 on April 22, 2014, 02:52:47 PM
@beave quote from thirty: " For what I do with the mining settings, the same settings can be used, but for profitability, they should be treated separately as there can be a difference in the hashrate."

Ok... you would still want to specify the NFactor of the N-Scrypt coins just like you would for the chacha coins. I was just hoping it would be simplified by being the same for chacha and n-scrypt, but apparently, it is not so.

Thanks again


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on April 22, 2014, 03:29:18 PM
Added 24h revenue. Please note that list is now sorted by 24h profitability. This will reduce coin hopping on the list.

Still have in mind a form for user, to choose sorting on his own, stay tuned :)


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on April 23, 2014, 12:59:37 PM
Diamond DMD added. Groestl will be added before DMD switches to it.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: ivanlabrie on April 23, 2014, 01:41:40 PM
Nice! :D


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on April 23, 2014, 02:51:50 PM
Noblecoin NOBL added. Profitability going up and up! ;)


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: Thirtybird on April 23, 2014, 03:35:16 PM
I like what you've done - it looks pretty accurate to me.  Sadly this means that people might figure out my mining secret and I'll make less  :P

If I may offer two suggestions:

1.) Scrypt-Jane.  No.  Scrypt-Chacha.  Yes.  Thanks.
2.) It appears the site uses cookies to remember what we've entered - fantastic.  Could you think of a way to integrate a "save settings as X" button?  I've got three different rigs composed to three different types of cards.  I would enter hashrates for one of these machines for each of the algorithms in a text box type "R7 240 Rig" and click "Save as" or something.  Then when I come back, I can switch the settings easily with a "Load settings from " dropdown box that has whatever I've saved.



Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on April 23, 2014, 03:47:41 PM
I like what you've done - it looks pretty accurate to me.  Sadly this means that people might figure out my mining secret and I'll make less  :P

If I may offer two suggestions:

1.) Scrypt-Jane.  No.  Scrypt-Chacha.  Yes.  Thanks.
2.) It appears the site uses cookies to remember what we've entered - fantastic.  Could you think of a way to integrate a "save settings as X" button?  I've got three different rigs composed to three different types of cards.  I would enter hashrates for one of these machines for each of the algorithms in a text box type "R7 240 Rig" and click "Save as" or something.  Then when I come back, I can switch the settings easily with a "Load settings from " dropdown box that has whatever I've saved.



Accuracy is one of the most important things, thats good.

- I cant sleep cause of Jane vs Chacha... The only info I have found, states that Chacha is a part of Jane, not the other way around - hence why I left it as it is. Plus I really enjoy the Jane name :D Feel free to give me any materials on it, I am pretty busy right know, but rest assured I am constantly thinking about it!

- I have a basic vision of how to implement that. Still would like to do ASIC section first.

EDIT: Oh and I have been asked to drop btc from gpu section and calculate profitability vs LTC. Think its a good idea, therefore I will pursue it. Revenues, volumes will stay in BTC.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on April 24, 2014, 10:59:27 AM
Added sorting. You can choose from:

Difficulty, Market Cap, Exchange Volume, Revenue, Profit, Profitability 24h, Profitability 3 days, Profitability 7 days.

Default stays Profitability 24h. Choice will be remembered by cookies.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: coinnewbit on April 24, 2014, 01:53:38 PM
Added sorting. You can choose from:

Difficulty, Market Cap, Exchange Volume, Revenue, Profit, Profitability 24h, Profitability 3 days, Profitability 7 days.

Default stays Profitability 24h. Choice will be remembered by cookies.
I is there already a mobile version?


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on April 24, 2014, 02:02:17 PM
Added sorting. You can choose from:

Difficulty, Market Cap, Exchange Volume, Revenue, Profit, Profitability 24h, Profitability 3 days, Profitability 7 days.

Default stays Profitability 24h. Choice will be remembered by cookies.
I is there already a mobile version?

I dont have a separate view for mobile devices, if that is what you are asking.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: Thirtybird on April 24, 2014, 02:54:39 PM

Accuracy is one of the most important things, thats good.

- I cant sleep cause of Jane vs Chacha... The only info I have found, states that Chacha is a part of Jane, not the other way around - hence why I left it as it is. Plus I really enjoy the Jane name :D Feel free to give me any materials on it, I am pretty busy right know, but rest assured I am constantly thinking about it!


Scrypt-Jane is a library of hashing algorithms.
Salsa is a mixing function - it is used by coins like Litecoin, Dogecoin, etc.
Chacha is a mixing function - it is used by coins like YACoin, Ultracoin, ZccCoin, Microcoin

You can use scrypt-jane (the library) to implement what you need to hash Litecoin (scrypt mixed with salsa), so technically, Litecoin is a scrypt-jane coin as well.

The difference from litecoin to yacoin being salsa vs. chacha, it was coined "scrypt-chacha" by Windmaster to signify its difference
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=206577.msg2332885#msg2332885

another post I made on the subject recently: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=413978.msg5940486#msg5940486


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on April 24, 2014, 03:24:50 PM
Yep I gotta change it then... But why it has to be chacha - its hilarious :P Even salsa sounds cool.

Plus I got second problem, commoners know what jane is. Somehow majority(me included) thought that all the nfactors are -jane based. It will be hell of a mess, when I change it to chacha.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: Beave162 on April 24, 2014, 03:37:10 PM
Yep I gotta change it then... But why it has to be chacha - its hilarious :P Even salsa sounds cool.

Plus I got second problem, commoners know what jane is. Somehow majority(me included) thought that all the nfactors are -jane based. It will be hell of a mess, when I change it to chacha.

Commoners DON'T know what Jane is ;p

I think you already have that problem solved by identifying that info next to the coins...


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on April 24, 2014, 06:37:09 PM
Filtering added.

Simply check the algorithm, you would like to filter out!


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: Thirtybird on April 25, 2014, 01:45:28 PM
Yep I gotta change it then... But why it has to be chacha - its hilarious :P Even salsa sounds cool.


They're both dances that involve a lot of body movement, which is kind of funny when you realize it as that's what mixing functions do to numbers...


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on April 25, 2014, 05:11:54 PM
Yeah I know Thirty that they are both dance names :)

Btw bittrex with QBC quebecoin added. Limecoin and muniti soon to follow.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: Beave162 on April 25, 2014, 05:32:41 PM
Yeah I know Thirty that they are both dance names :)

Btw bittrex with QBC quebecoin added. Limecoin and muniti soon to follow.

I'm excited for a twerk-based coin :)

I love this site. It is definitely one I frequently visit.

The checkboxes are a little confusing. I assume a coin that has the box checked is included as opposed to excluded. I think it would be better to have the function of checking the box opposite of how it is now? But the default setting should be all boxes checked. Basically, people can UNcheck any algo they want to exclude.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on April 25, 2014, 05:40:42 PM
Yeah I know Thirty that they are both dance names :)

Btw bittrex with QBC quebecoin added. Limecoin and muniti soon to follow.

I'm excited for a twerk-based coin :)

I love this site. It is definitely one I frequently visit.

The checkboxes are a little confusing. I assume a coin that has the box checked is included as opposed to excluded. I think it would be better to have the function of checking the box opposite of how it is now? But the default setting should be all boxes checked. Basically, people can UNcheck any algo they want to exclude.

I know and I agree, I was out of steam yesterday and just left it as it is - coding for opposite would have taken me much more time. I will do it, unfortunately all saved settings will be reset.

But thank you for some encouraging words :)


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on April 26, 2014, 05:53:29 PM
Checkboxes are no longer drunk and are working as intended ;)

Chacha is here, Groestl is here, ready for DMD to change.

Groestlcoin added.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: Beave162 on April 28, 2014, 04:34:36 PM
Am I missing something with the revenue vs profitability statistics? I input 66W for power @ 0.1 per kWhr, which equates to $0.16 in energy costs. It shows up that way in the Nf14 grouping, but I'm getting negative profitability in the ranking list despite $0.53 of calculated revenue...


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on April 28, 2014, 08:20:09 PM
Am I missing something with the revenue vs profitability statistics? I input 66W for power @ 0.1 per kWhr, which equates to $0.16 in energy costs. It shows up that way in the Nf14 grouping, but I'm getting negative profitability in the ranking list despite $0.53 of calculated revenue...

Thank you Beave, something is wrong with daily cost input. Will fix it soon. EDIT: Fixed! Forgot to change algo name to Chacha in one last place. Profitability was calculated ok, only profit took values from scrypt.

In the meanwhile Asic section is up. To my surprise, there are not many sha256 coins around.
JSON link will change either to gpu, or asic section, depending on what you have opened.
Expect GPU section to be calculated vs LTC tomorrow with the same green style as ASIC is right now.

http://www.whattomine.com/asic (http://www.whattomine.com/asic)


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: elixir on April 28, 2014, 09:44:29 PM
i'd try mining 666coin, launches May 3rd.

follow here for updates https://twitter.com/666Coin666


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on April 29, 2014, 02:19:46 PM
@elixir will keep an eye on it.

GPU section is now compared to litecoin with more sane % ;)

www.whattomine.com (http://www.whattomine.com)


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on May 01, 2014, 01:48:36 PM
Added LGC Logicoin, seems top X11 by profitability.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: Thirtybird on May 01, 2014, 03:03:33 PM
Added LGC Logicoin, seems top X11 by profitability.

Any chance you could add ZccCoin?  It's an SC NF 14 coin and I'm not sure if it or YAC is better to mine.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on May 01, 2014, 04:32:39 PM
Added LGC Logicoin, seems top X11 by profitability.

Any chance you could add ZccCoin?  It's an SC NF 14 coin and I'm not sure if it or YAC is better to mine.

I cant find a working block explorer and zcc thread is not much alive. I will add it if you can find me one though ;)

- 3 and 7 day profitability is now more accurate
- site forms should display a lot better on mobile devices

-added RonPaulCoin


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: Beave162 on May 01, 2014, 11:42:48 PM
Thanks for the updates!

Added LGC Logicoin, seems top X11 by profitability.

Any chance you could add ZccCoin?  It's an SC NF 14 coin and I'm not sure if it or YAC is better to mine.

... then you might as well add YBCoin too, although I think the profitability rarely beats YACoin. Chinese love to chacha.

http://explorer.ybcoin.com/



Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on May 01, 2014, 11:46:00 PM
Yeah I know they do, problem is they dont do bitcointalk or twitter ;) I tried to reach them through official site but there is no contact info.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on May 03, 2014, 10:01:20 PM
Added single calculator pages to all coins.
New section can be accessed by clicking coin name. You can play with numbers and check what would be if. Also there are few more statistics there that would not fit into the main list.

whattomine.com (http://whattomine.com)


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: DurbanPoison on May 04, 2014, 11:48:42 PM
Very nice site!

I'm new to mining so please forgive the noob question but how does one typically use this data? I mean, do you need to watch the screen all day to see which coins are at the top and then point your gear on them? I'm wondering if by the time you made the adjustments to mine the new coin, a bunch of large pools shifted over to it which could significantly lower the profitability.

You are already wiser than me, when I started playing with mining :D

You can check first few most profitable coins, go on their websites, check bitcointalk threads and see which ones you like the most. As you are new to this I would recommend sticking to scrypt algorithm coins for a while. Learn your rig, learn how it behaves then start experimenting with others. X11 are very good in terms of power usage. Still most people go for revenue in btc as ultimate mining factor - thats why my site is not sorted by profit.

If in doubt, look from the top and compare profitability with profitability24. The closer they are to each other, the better chance it will be around this value tomorrow.

Edit: block explorers for HIRO are not updated, data is not correct. All coins updating.



Thanks for the info Fredeq, it is very helpful.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on May 05, 2014, 06:56:42 AM
@Durban Hey :) Right now list is sorted by 24h profitability, so you do not have to worry about difficulty - the only variable left is exchange rate.

To see if Rate is stable, simply go to coins page by clicking on its name or choose it from http://www.whattomine.com/calculators (http://www.whattomine.com/calculators). Compare coins you have chosen by price stability and you are good to go :)

Later you can check Profitability of 3 days and 7 days. For now coins are stable, I recommend sticking to profitability24.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on May 09, 2014, 08:44:02 PM
Added DcGirl's Ultra-Arb ticker to whattomine.com (http://whattomine.com)

Its a widget for her arbitrage tool. Enjoy!



Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: Beave162 on May 10, 2014, 12:26:04 AM
There is an issue with Groestl:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=483515.msg6641511#msg6641511

I get 3.4 Mhash/s with GroestlCoin and 6.4 Mhash/s with MyriadCoin-groestl.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: ivanlabrie on May 10, 2014, 02:06:33 AM
As cbuchner1 pointed out, they use different mixing functions (afaik), groestlcoin is groestl-groestl, and myr-groestl is groestl-sha256.

EDIT: nevermind, failed to see the link LEL


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: spud21 on May 10, 2014, 02:17:22 AM
Thanks for providing a brilliant website and API for comparing profitability of altcoins.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: goodluck0319 on May 10, 2014, 02:25:07 AM
I am wondering is ur data accurate or not.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on May 10, 2014, 10:19:20 AM
@beave162 @ivanlabrie As I was afraid. Ok I will hardcode it, as soon as I get back home.
I just need a multiplier to get it from groestl - cant afford to add another input field for just one coin :P
Would you say 1.9x will suffice as a general multiplier?

@spud21 Happy to help and glad you are using it! :)

@goodluck0319 Have any issues, something doesnt look good? I only got positive feedback about my 24profitability. 3 and 7 days is derived from it, so I assume it is ok as well - uses the same data.
 
Most of success is proper interpretation of the data. Remember that any difficulty is taken as average in requested timeframe, but exchange rate is always taken the latest(current). If you would like to make some calculations with other exchange rates, please navigate to coin page and input the average rate you desire(below the forms you can find 3 types of averages for each coin).

PS:
Myriad should put a big bold letters that their groestl is different from GRS. I have checked all the other calculators and all of them use the same hashrate for GRS and MYR-GRS.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: defaced on May 10, 2014, 11:33:30 AM
add adn!


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: Beave162 on May 10, 2014, 03:25:27 PM
@beave162 @ivanlabrie As I was afraid. Ok I will hardcode it, as soon as I get back home.
I just need a multiplier to get it from groestl - cant afford to add another input field for just one coin :P
Would you say 1.9x will suffice as a general multiplier?

I think the only options are to add another field or remove one of the coins. Otherwise, if I input my myriad-groestl hashrate of 6.4 Mhash/s, the numbers will be off.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on May 10, 2014, 03:36:09 PM
@beave162 @ivanlabrie As I was afraid. Ok I will hardcode it, as soon as I get back home.
I just need a multiplier to get it from groestl - cant afford to add another input field for just one coin :P
Would you say 1.9x will suffice as a general multiplier?

I think the only options are to add another field or remove one of the coins. Otherwise, if I input my myriad-groestl hashrate of 6.4 Mhash/s, the numbers will be off.

I have added a litle warning to description to input only GRS hash rate for groestl algo. If anyone is still having doubts, you can reenter your hashrate at MYR-Groestl coinsite to see results.
As of now MYR-groestl hash rate is calculated as (GRS_hr) * 1.9

I am thinking about removing heavycoin though. Its constantly on the bottom of the list and I barerly see anyone changing the default hr_value.

@defaced I will look into it. But I think its other algo right? I need to reorganize fields first, shift labels to the left.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on May 13, 2014, 06:06:48 PM
Did some minor backend and coin updates. Relisted HVC and MRC.

Every exchange rate is now taken as "Top Bid" rather than last trade price.

E: Relisted DMD


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: Beave162 on May 16, 2014, 12:13:41 AM
There is a lot of attention on DarkCoin today. I am unfamiliar with X11, so where did I go? I went to whattomine.com. At first, I didn't even realize what algo DarkCoin is, but obviously, you already had it covered.

You may think that having tons of input fields would be a negative and make the site convoluted. I actually think it would be amazing. In a few days, you will have to add NFactor 15 for yacoin and NFactor 13 for ultracoin and microcoin. Any chance you could add AppleCoin, which is currently on NFactor 13?

Thanks so much, fredeq. This site is awesome!


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on May 16, 2014, 06:54:20 AM
@beave Yeah DRK is rising, cause people need to buy 1000DRK(sick 10 BTC now) to run a masternode. When you run it, you gain 10% of ongoing traffic. This created huge buy pressure.

happy to help as always :)

I would still prefer to keep it in 2 rows but it seems I will have to go 3rd... Keccak, skein, qubit, scrypt-og, damn I would like to add them all :P
Chacha nfactors will replace existing ones, no point keeping 14. Not sure about ultracoin - they said this nfactor would last longer, maybe it changed.
Will look more into apple.

BTW added guldencoin NLG.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: Svener on May 17, 2014, 05:00:27 AM
@beave Yeah DRK is rising, cause people need to buy 1000DRK(sick 10 BTC now) to run a masternode. When you run it, you gain 10% of ongoing traffic. This created huge buy pressure.

happy to help as always :)

I would still prefer to keep it in 2 rows but it seems I will have to go 3rd... Keccak, skein, qubit, scrypt-og, damn I would like to add them all :P
Chacha nfactors will replace existing ones, no point keeping 14. Not sure about ultracoin - they said this nfactor would last longer, maybe it changed.
Will look more into apple.

BTW added guldencoin NLG.

Great website! :)


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on May 18, 2014, 07:11:03 PM
@Svener Thank you :D

Added Aiden, ADN. Hashrate taken from Scrypt. If you want to input yours, go to http://www.whattomine.com/coins/65-adn-scrypt-og


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: ivanlabrie on May 19, 2014, 12:31:43 AM
Thanks!

Awesome as usual.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: mrcashking on May 21, 2014, 08:53:47 PM
Can you add LGD Legendary Coin? Please.

ANN--> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=530175.0


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: Thirtybird on May 22, 2014, 03:39:42 AM
Hey fredeq,

All of the Chacha coins on whattomine are changing NFactors in the next couple weeks and will need an update.

5/24 - UTC to NF 13
5/31 - YAC to NF 15
6/1 - MRC to NF 13

thank you sir!


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: ivanlabrie on May 22, 2014, 04:07:06 AM
Looking forward to that!


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on May 22, 2014, 07:06:04 AM
Thank you for the remainder Thirty.

I am thinking about delisting MRC till LTC market opens. Will just switch existing forms to higher nfactor.
Also I would like to change multiplier on YAC. Its true only for low-end cards and most people have 280x.

Any idea for default(280x) hashrates at 13 factor?


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: Thirtybird on May 22, 2014, 01:46:40 PM
Also I would like to change multiplier on YAC. Its true only for low-end cards and most people have 280x.

What multiplier are you talking about?


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on May 22, 2014, 07:55:43 PM
Also I would like to change multiplier on YAC. Its true only for low-end cards and most people have 280x.

What multiplier are you talking about?

When someone opens my site without any parameters, he will see that 1000 khash/s of scrypt translates to 14 khash/s of YAC. Thats true only for those 270 4GB RAM ;)
Will reduce the multiplier (0.014), cause right now I feel like bending reality with YAC profitability.

In the meantime added X11 XC http://www.whattomine.com/coins/69-xc-x11, Mazacoin MZC http://www.whattomine.com/coins/70-mzc-sha-256.
Also reduced loading time by approx 30%.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: Lima99 on May 23, 2014, 02:59:02 AM
Please add Capital Coin (CPTL)

CapitalCoin | 0% PreMine | Scrypt PoS | Already On bittrex Exchange

For the PoW Stage the coin algorithm utilizes Moore's law which accurately predicts the growth of computational power.


Heres the ANN --> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=589930.0


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on May 28, 2014, 06:51:35 PM
Replaced Heavycoin form with Keccak.

Added Maxcoin, 365coin, Cryptometh from keccak algo.
Also added Phoenixcoin and Orbitcoin.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: kdfspam on May 28, 2014, 07:54:08 PM
Thanks!


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on May 29, 2014, 06:35:31 PM
Added two SHA256 coins: Curecoin and Savecoin. Also LitecoinX, X11 coin.

http://www.whattomine.com/coins/76-cure-sha-256
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/77-spc-sha-256
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/78-ltcx-x11


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on May 30, 2014, 08:55:38 PM
Added Entropycoin ENC Scrypt-N, Jackpotcoin JPC JHA.

http://www.whattomine.com/coins/79-enc-scrypt-n
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/80-jpc-jha


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: HR on May 30, 2014, 09:42:13 PM


Mine 'um and Get Out of 'um

Mine 'um and Get Out of 'um, that's what I've been doing over the last several weeks. DMD, DRK and EXE were my favorite mines, and DGB my favorite “way oversold” best buy on the open market. Had a sprinkling of SRC and VTC mining as well. There's a couple a scrypt coins that could be on that list, but I refuse to support scrypt (the gross returns are minimal and net returns worse, so why bother anyway?) with the exception of building a size position in DGB on the expectation of an algo change with them.

Things have changed in the last few days though, and I'm no longer getting the 3-4x ratio on the DGB over directly mining it. (You could buy 3 to 4 times the amount of DGB with the proceeds from mining the most profitable coin than you could by directly mining it.) It's more like a 2x ratio now, and with the hassle of selling, then buying, and then getting it back to your wallet, you've got a half hour process on your hands (or longer if you bid instead of taking the offer), and it's not worth it.

So now I'm letting the coins I mine go directly to my wallet for ease of use and a bit of diversification. I like EXE, SRC and VTC longer term so, hey, why not accumulate some of them too (and if the price jumps a bunch . . . who knows?). I'm currently on EXE and GRS (like that one a lot too).

Don't know how long this current profitability picture will last, but steady longer term trends may be settling in and it just might be that putting miners on long term accumulation coins turns out to be a fairly good proposition not just for the moment, but also for the longer term.


What's your take? What have you been doing?


BTW, I Like What To Mine!


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on May 31, 2014, 08:11:41 AM
@HR Gkad you like it ;)

I have been into UTC with all my miners for quite long time now. Things may look bad now, but it still gives me best BTC revenue at the end of the day.

Lately I am thinking about switching algos. Still X11 is not worth it, scrypt-N gives me weird results - I am thinking groestl or one of the secondary algos. Really tempted to try out Jackpotcoin.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on May 31, 2014, 04:12:08 PM
@Richard May I know why do you come here to tell him that? Wouldnt it be better to just send him a PM?

Back on topic now. Switched YACoin to NF15.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: Thirtybird on June 01, 2014, 03:45:24 AM
Thanks for the update!  YAC profitability down temporarily until diff adjusts, but that's to be expected.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: HR on June 01, 2014, 07:08:52 AM
@fredeq

Took a look at UTC, and like you said, current profitability is way down, and the network hashrate is only about 8 Mh/s (if my rough estimate is correct). Still haven't had time to look at JPC more than take a quick look at its [ANN] page, but it looks intriguing.  :)


Quick question for you. I'm sure you've seen it often since you're into following these things up close. I've only 'noticed' it before (or at least I think this is the same thing) when real payouts have not matched expected payouts - I've chalked it up to other possible factors like inefficiency or outright pool skimming. However, yesterday, on DGB the issue was so obviously a network issue that I delved into it and discovered something very strange.

DBG was stuck on block 131993 for over an hour and a half, and I started looking at the block chain and I noticed that it had been taking progressively longer to find blocks, with only an average of 10.66 blocks found per hour over the previous 24 hours and only an average of 19.25 blocks found per hour over the previous 5 days.

That's extremely strange for a coin that's designed for 60 second rewards (60 blocks found per hour). As far as I can see, when going back and comparing when slowdowns occur, there is no correlation with difficulty what-so-ever. As far as I can see, the coin seems to get 'stuck' at random intervals. http://explorer.cryptopoolmining.com/chain/DigiByte

11,066,400 theoretical total coins per day = 461,100 total coins per hour = ~153.7 coins per hour at 1 MH/s or ~3688 coins a day, exactly what is reported as "Est Rewards" on What To Mine.

At 10.66 blocks per hour those totals fall to 1,966,130 coins day = 81,922 hour = ~27.3 per hour at 1 MH/s or ~655 coins a day (~1183 a day at 19.25 blocks per hour). That sure smashes whatever profitability there might have been to begin with! And, as I said to start, I'm not sure this is an isolated case.


Do you know or have any ideas about what causes this to happen?


Add:

Last 24 hours since block 191994 (purposely leaving the 1 hour and 45 minutes from 191993 to 191994 out of the mix): 8.25 blocks found per hour, for a total of 1,521,630 coins at an average of 63,401.25 coins an hour yielding 21.1 coins per each 1 MH/s of hashing power, or 507.16 coins on a daily, 24 hour basis. HORRIBLE.


BTW, I'm also wondering why CoinWarz and MiningPool.co both report around 1/6th the network hashrate that What To Mine reports (if those were correct, then a 1 MH/s miner would be getting around 24,600 DGB on a daily basis if the theoretical 60 x 24 x 7685 was actually happening). How are these discrepancies explained?


Independent of the actual network hashrate, there's no arguing the fact that only 198 blocks were found in the last 24 hours on a coin that is coded to deliver 1440. What explanation might there be for that?






Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on June 01, 2014, 04:21:43 PM
Hey HR,

See you are digging deeper ;) For question about blocks, I suggest you take it to DGB team - it is disturbing indeed.

I can however answer your nethash question. WTM derives nethash from difficulty - it is working on an assumption that retarget works flawlessly.
Coinwarz is getting data from wallets, where you can simply send nethash rpc command to get computed response(I could actually use nethash api from ABE blocks, but not all explorers are based on ABE, I just preferred to give estimates based on diff).
Bottom line Coinwarz and all wallet based calculators will use "latest few blocks time generation to estimate nethash", wheter WTM and alike will use "derive nethash from current difficulty".

As you currently observed blocktime generation for DGB is wrong - blocks are not as frequent as they should be, hence WTM gives you higher nethash(diff is still being retarget as block were made each minute).


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: HR on June 03, 2014, 10:08:09 AM

I had already mentioned it twice on the DigiByte thread, each time with no response from either the Devs or anyone else for that matter.

Thinking that maybe I hadn't been direct enough, I posted the issue again last night in no uncertain terms, and it looks like this time it's getting a serious response, if only at least from the community - the DigiByte response from what is called an "Official DigiByte Account" in its signature line was: "This information is coming from 1 mining pool. Not the entire DigiByte network."

What's even more disturbing is that when you go back in time on the DGB Blockchain, you find that this began with the implementation of DigiShield back in Februrary. Not good. All the details (other contributor's contributions as well) can be found in recent posts on their thread. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=408268.9620

BTW, thanks for the quick explanation regarding profitability estimating using diff vs. wallet based calculations. Your logical assumptions seem very solid to me.




Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: HR on June 03, 2014, 11:22:08 AM
Looks like the same thing is happening to:



GDN

60 blocks per hour * 24 hours * 40 days since release = 57,600 theoretical blocks

   Actual blocks found to date = 49,402 http://cryptotrends.info/GDN/


DOGE

Only 8735 blocks were actually found during the 7 day period from block 237640 found on 2014-05-27 10:50:50 to block 246375 found on 2014-06-03 10:50:58. https://dogechain.info/blocks

    A total of 10,080 should have been found.


NAUT

This one is easy to calculate, all the necessary data is here:  http://explorer.nautiluscoin.com (http://explorer.nautiluscoin.com)

As of this writing:

36.3659 Age (days) * 60 * 24 = 52,366.896 blocks that should have been found by now.

   That's way off from the actual 20,100 figure.


These coins all use DigiShield. I saw on DigiByte's thread where appbox suggested that a lower hashrate could aggravate the issue, and DOGE's being relatively less affected could corraborate that. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=408268.msg7099456#msg7099456

Whether the issue is due solely to DigiShield or some sort of DigiShield incompatibility with ASIC remains to be seen (the advent of ASIC mining occurred right in the same time frame that the issue first appeared on DGB, and given that the progressive worsening of the issue over time is in line with the correlative rise in ASIC miners during that same time, this is a probable thesis that should not be ruled out).

It would be interesting to take this analsys to other coins using DigiShield, and, for obvious reasons, to scrypt coins NOT using DigiShield, and, eventually, to non-scrypt coins (there's always the possibility that this is DigiShield independent and completely due to ASIC miners).





Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: ivanlabrie on June 03, 2014, 11:25:43 AM
Sounds more like the asic boys having fun 51%'ing stuff...  :-\


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on June 03, 2014, 01:52:26 PM
Not good. Have you checked any non-digishield coin for similiar behaviour?

BTW profitability estimates work the same for both type of sites. Its just nethash estimate that varies. Just wanted to clear that out, cause you wrote:
'BTW, thanks for the quick explanation regarding profitability estimating using diff vs. wallet based calculations. Your logical assumptions seem very solid to me.'


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: HR on June 04, 2014, 07:33:52 AM
Not good. Have you checked any non-digishield coin for similiar behaviour?

Haven't had the time, nor does it look like I will . . . at least until the weekend. I was hoping to see someone else get interested in doing some analysis - we've got a good discussion now going on the DigiByte thread, so maybe someone will pick up the ball (I also posted a link to this thread since it might be more appropriate to do that kind of independent analysis here).

Its just nethash estimate that varies.

Thank you for that. I was blending and mixing things. Good to be clear about it.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on June 04, 2014, 07:31:37 PM
Added 24h percentage change indicator for exchange rate.
Also rate link will now navigate you directly to trading pair.

Added Cryptcoin, Goalcoin and X13 coins:
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/86-cry-x11
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/87-goal-scrypt

http://www.whattomine.com/coins/85-bost-x13
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/84-maru-x13


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: HR on June 04, 2014, 09:03:30 PM

Think I'm going to jump on Myriad for a while.

No block discovery issues on this one! http://myriad.theblockexplorer.com:2750

I promise to do more work analyzing other coins' real vs. scheduled block discovery performance when I have a chance. Truth is I'm completely bewildered that no-one else has taken the initiative, or even seems to care. On the other hand, with the likes of what I've seen in the few months I've been getting to know the crypto world, I guess I shouldn't be all that surprised.

Still though, I'm aghast to think that this is a zombie ridden, con-artist's playground.




Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on June 05, 2014, 05:24:14 AM
@HR Tell me about it.
Last time I checked, every other calculator was still using the same hash rate for Groestl and Myr-groestl. In fact myr-groestl is giving you 2x hash on the same card. :D


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: HR on June 05, 2014, 10:45:09 AM

Last time I checked, every other calculator was still using the same hash rate for Groestl and Myr-groestl. In fact myr-groestl is giving you 2x hash on the same card. :D

Looks like it's waaaay over reporting for some weird reason, both server side and client side (using sgminer) - Myriad-Groestl (MYR) Groestl. Actual real-time payouts per 10 MH/s are more in line with what GroestlCoin (GRS) is paying out (around 250-260 coins per day). That's mining on http://myriadcoin-groestl.miningpoolhub.com . I'm now also mirroring on the P2Pool at http://eup2pool.cryptopools.com:3333/static/ . Will let them go for 24 hours and will report back then with those results.




Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on June 05, 2014, 03:04:39 PM
So its good when its wrong? Hilarious :D Coins these days never cease to amaze me.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: HR on June 05, 2014, 10:08:30 PM
So its good when its wrong? Hilarious :D Coins these days never cease to amaze me.


Yeah, the deeper I scratch below the surface, the more I find myself asking myself why nobody else has done this type of analysis and come across these issues, and/or asking myself if I'm crazy, or both. :-\

However, it's most likely a case of those "in the know" using their information to their advantage, and the lemmings doing what they do best, being lemmings.

My goal is to sort out which coins are profitable, have decent prospects for long term adoption, and are honest (perhaps with the latter being the key variable for all the rest). That's not something I'll be getting done overnight though.  :(

Hopefully we'll find some like thinking folks willing to chip in.


I just took a quick look (about half an hour) at the EAC block discovery numbers, and, while only ~84% of expected blocks have been found lifetime, they're right on the nose over the last 90 days, and since that's basically the time frame we're interested in since the advent of ASIC, we can say that, in the case of EAC, there has been no slowdown in block discovery as ASIC mining has increased. http://earthchain.info/chain/EarthCoin

Got to look at more scrypt coins this weekend, and more coins using DigiShield (got to make up that list first . . .).







Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: HR on June 06, 2014, 07:53:02 AM


LTC results:


Actual block discovery is running at 93.5% of it's lifetime theoretical block discovery scheduling.

Last 90 days block discovery is running at 97.8% of theoretical.

Looks like the advent of ASIC has no impact at all on LTC.


Add: Is this typical? Someone who solicits help to research the LTC blockchain (in the technical support section of LiteCoinTalk.org no less) and gets no response from anyone? https://litecointalk.org/index.php?topic=19758.msg171038#msg171038

And I thought we had left the dark ages behind long ago and that now we were in the "information age"!!!   :D







Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: HR on June 06, 2014, 10:49:21 AM

Last time I checked, every other calculator was still using the same hash rate for Groestl and Myr-groestl. In fact myr-groestl is giving you 2x hash on the same card. :D

Looks like it's waaaay over reporting for some weird reason, both server side and client side (using sgminer) - Myriad-Groestl (MYR) Groestl. Actual real-time payouts per 10 MH/s are more in line with what GroestlCoin (GRS) is paying out (around 250-260 coins per day). That's mining on http://myriadcoin-groestl.miningpoolhub.com . I'm now also mirroring on the P2Pool at http://eup2pool.cryptopools.com:3333/static/ . Will let them go for 24 hours and will report back then with those results.



24 hour results:

Actual gross payouts on http://myriadcoin-groestl.miningpoolhub.com before the 1% pool fee = 655 coins per 10 MH/s, just slightly under the What To Mine estimate. (My initial preliminary projections were off due to the inordinate amount of time for this PPLNS pool to ramp up.) Not bad. Just about .0025 BTC at current market prices.

The P2P results won't be ready until tomorrow since the payouts are STILL ramping up there (never met a P2P pool that I didn't hate, but let's give it a fair chance . . . at least there hasn't been missing payout periods . . . yet).

Then I'll have to give qubit a test drive . . .



BTW, looks like there are some serious types over on the MyriadCoin thread. Here's an example: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=483515.msg6976890;topicseen#msg6976890  But don't believe a low hashrate, low profitabilty coin when they try to tell you this is the problem behind their block discovery issue! (Remember, MYR block discovery is running clean and smooth, at almost 98%, lifetime, of projected. I point this out not to link it in any way to the DigiShield issue, but rather to call attention to the serious analysis going on over on that thread regarding another multipool/ASIC issue that should be of concern to all scrypt and SHA256D coins, and those that include those algos . . . for anyone who's technically inclined - not all is lost in this new information age! ;) )



Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on June 06, 2014, 04:41:52 PM
@HR I will check your posts when I have some free time tomorrow. Finished major update today.

Added volume filtering. You can choose from 0.1; 0.5; 1; 5; 10; 50; and 100 thresholds. Have a nice weekend :D


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: HR on June 07, 2014, 11:44:47 AM

Last time I checked, every other calculator was still using the same hash rate for Groestl and Myr-groestl. In fact myr-groestl is giving you 2x hash on the same card. :D

Looks like it's waaaay over reporting for some weird reason, both server side and client side (using sgminer) - Myriad-Groestl (MYR) Groestl. Actual real-time payouts per 10 MH/s are more in line with what GroestlCoin (GRS) is paying out (around 250-260 coins per day). That's mining on http://myriadcoin-groestl.miningpoolhub.com . I'm now also mirroring on the P2Pool at http://eup2pool.cryptopools.com:3333/static/ . Will let them go for 24 hours and will report back then with those results.



24 hour results:

Actual gross payouts on http://myriadcoin-groestl.miningpoolhub.com before the 1% pool fee = 655 coins per 10 MH/s, just slightly under the What To Mine estimate. (My initial preliminary projections were off due to the inordinate amount of time for this PPLNS pool to ramp up.) Not bad. Just about .0025 BTC at current market prices.

The P2P results won't be ready until tomorrow since the payouts are STILL ramping up there (never met a P2P pool that I didn't hate, but let's give it a fair chance . . . at least there hasn't been missing payout periods . . . yet).

Then I'll have to give qubit a test drive . . .


Myriad-Groestl (MYR) Groestl 48 hour results

671 coin daily gross payout (before the 1% pool fee) per 10 MH/s (adjusted, real, groestl hashrate)

383 coin daily gross payout (before the 1% pool fee) per 17.5 MH/s (over reported hashrate)

It's not quite a 2x hashrate over reporting. I calculate that it is closer to 1.75, which is to say, there is a 75% over reporting of the equivalent groestl hashrate. Another way of looking at it is with a scrypt equivalent hashrate, which would be ~1,100 kH/s, or a ~3,300 kH/s X11 equivalent, or a ~500 kH/s scrypt-n giving you a .00229 BTC daily yield. The comparison coins I've mined with same machines/clones with exact same configurations are: GroestCoin, DiamondCoin, DarkCoin, VertCoin, ExeCoin, and DOGE (although DOGE is archive data since I haven't mined it for some time now).


The P2P pool took 36 hours to fully ramp up, so those results will be delayed once again.


And I've now got another “mirror” machine on Myriad-Qubit(MYR) Qubit.


Hope this information is useful.




Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: Beave162 on June 07, 2014, 06:03:50 PM
Really is by far the best profitability site out there. The volume filter is yet another great option (although it doesn't really benefit YAC at the moment ;P).

Any chance you could add CACHeCoin? It is currently at NFactor 13.

Block explorer: http://www.coincrawler.de/cach/

bitcointalk thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=400389.0

Thanks so much fredeq.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: HR on June 08, 2014, 11:21:53 AM

Last time I checked, every other calculator was still using the same hash rate for Groestl and Myr-groestl. In fact myr-groestl is giving you 2x hash on the same card. :D

Looks like it's waaaay over reporting for some weird reason, both server side and client side (using sgminer) - Myriad-Groestl (MYR) Groestl. Actual real-time payouts per 10 MH/s are more in line with what GroestlCoin (GRS) is paying out (around 250-260 coins per day). That's mining on http://myriadcoin-groestl.miningpoolhub.com . I'm now also mirroring on the P2Pool at http://eup2pool.cryptopools.com:3333/static/ . Will let them go for 24 hours and will report back then with those results.



24 hour results:

Actual gross payouts on http://myriadcoin-groestl.miningpoolhub.com before the 1% pool fee = 655 coins per 10 MH/s, just slightly under the What To Mine estimate. (My initial preliminary projections were off due to the inordinate amount of time for this PPLNS pool to ramp up.) Not bad. Just about .0025 BTC at current market prices.

The P2P results won't be ready until tomorrow since the payouts are STILL ramping up there (never met a P2P pool that I didn't hate, but let's give it a fair chance . . . at least there hasn't been missing payout periods . . . yet).

Then I'll have to give qubit a test drive . . .


Myriad-Groestl (MYR) Groestl 48 hour results

671 coin daily gross payout (before the 1% pool fee) per 10 MH/s (adjusted, real, groestl hashrate)

383 coin daily gross payout (before the 1% pool fee) per 17.5 MH/s (over reported hashrate)

It's not quite a 2x hashrate over reporting. I calculate that it is closer to 1.75, which is to say, there is a 75% over reporting of the equivalent groestl hashrate. Another way of looking at it is with a scrypt equivalent hashrate, which would be ~1,100 kH/s, or a ~3,300 kH/s X11 equivalent, or a ~500 kH/s scrypt-n giving you a .00229 BTC daily yield. The comparison coins I've mined with same machines/clones with exact same configurations are: GroestCoin, DiamondCoin, DarkCoin, VertCoin, ExeCoin, and DOGE (although DOGE is archive data since I haven't mined it for some time now).


The P2P pool took 36 hours to fully ramp up, so those results will be delayed once again.


And I've now got another “mirror” machine on Myriad-Qubit(MYR) Qubit.


Hope this information is useful.





The Myriadcoin Qubit total 24 hour gross payout before 1% pool fee was 680 coins at an adjusted groestlcoin 10 MH/s hashrate equivalent (in this case, the Qubit hashrate was about 55% of the groestl 'benchmark'). The block find percentage over this time frame was 101.85%

On the side by side mirror machine for Myriad-Groestl over the same time period the gross payout was 670 at an adjusted groestlcoin 10 MH/s hashrate equivalent. The block find percentage over this time frame was 114.64%

Why would anyone mine Qubit? The energy consumption is only about 7% more than Groestl, but does that justify just a few more coins? The machine is worked quite a bit harder than what you would expect from only a 7% increase in power use however. Many people have commented that with Groestl you can play a game while mining, and my testing shows that's not possible with Qubit. So with a lot lighter load on the machine, and lower energy costs as well, Groestl looks to be the clear winner, yet again.

P2P pool mining is by far and away the big winner here. THIS IS THE FIRST P2P POOL I HAVE LIKED!!! 24 hour payouts are now averaging 890 coins (at an adjusted groestlcoin 10 MH/s hashrate equivalent).

So the no-brainer here is to set everything on the Myriad-Groestl P2P using the traditional pool as a failover. I'm going to keep things evenly divided for another few days testing before going all in though.


(I'm not even going to bother testing Skein as I've read that same machine, same config results yield little over half what Groestl produces, and my math based on simple division of theoretical coins paid out daily by the network hashrate bears that out - not worth the time.)


BTW, anyone notice that DGB is still averaging less than 200 blocks a day. In fact, less than 100 blocks in the last 24 hours. They're beginning to recognize the issue, but they're still trying to convince us that it's due to multipool attacks. :D


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on June 08, 2014, 05:09:53 PM
Good to know that numbers are fine and Myriad block find percentage is ok too. :) Will look at cache later.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on June 13, 2014, 10:53:53 AM
Added some new coins. Burnercoin(BURN) (X13), Millionaire(MIL) (X11), Snakexcoin(SNCX) (X13), Rabbitcoin(RBBT) (Scrypt), Talkcoin(TAC) (NIST5)

http://www.whattomine.com/coins/90-burn-x13
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/91-mil-x11
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/92-sncx-x13
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/93-rbbt-scrypt
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/94-tac-nist5


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: corsaro on June 18, 2014, 08:39:33 PM
Added some new coins. Burnercoin(BURN) (X13), Millionaire(MIL) (X11), Snakexcoin(SNCX) (X13), Rabbitcoin(RBBT) (Scrypt), Talkcoin(TAC) (NIST5)

http://www.whattomine.com/coins/90-burn-x13
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/91-mil-x11
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/92-sncx-x13
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/93-rbbt-scrypt
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/94-tac-nist5


kindly check rabbitcoin and usde coin difficulties. Values seem different from correct ones.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on June 19, 2014, 06:04:22 AM
Added some new coins. Burnercoin(BURN) (X13), Millionaire(MIL) (X11), Snakexcoin(SNCX) (X13), Rabbitcoin(RBBT) (Scrypt), Talkcoin(TAC) (NIST5)

http://www.whattomine.com/coins/90-burn-x13
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/91-mil-x11
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/92-sncx-x13
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/93-rbbt-scrypt
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/94-tac-nist5


kindly check rabbitcoin and usde coin difficulties. Values seem different from correct ones.

Thank you for reporting.

Rabbit explorer is stuck on block from 3am. Not sure whats wrong with USDE, but you are right - its not updating. Taking both coins off the list. Will resolve later when I have more time.

Edit: Fixed USDE. Not sure anyone will ever fix rabbitcoin explorer. If you would like to calculate rewards for it, please navigate to single page and input correct difficulty.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: corsaro on June 19, 2014, 08:42:56 PM
Added some new coins. Burnercoin(BURN) (X13), Millionaire(MIL) (X11), Snakexcoin(SNCX) (X13), Rabbitcoin(RBBT) (Scrypt), Talkcoin(TAC) (NIST5)

http://www.whattomine.com/coins/90-burn-x13
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/91-mil-x11
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/92-sncx-x13
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/93-rbbt-scrypt
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/94-tac-nist5


kindly check rabbitcoin and usde coin difficulties. Values seem different from correct ones.

Thank you for reporting.

Rabbit explorer is stuck on block from 3am. Not sure whats wrong with USDE, but you are right - its not updating. Taking both coins off the list. Will resolve later when I have more time.

Edit: Fixed USDE. Not sure anyone will ever fix rabbitcoin explorer. If you would like to calculate rewards for it, please navigate to single page and input correct difficulty.

thanks


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: ivanlabrie on June 19, 2014, 11:13:40 PM
Hey fredeq, you should consider adding cryptonote coins...whatmine sucks brah.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: bitcoincal on June 20, 2014, 01:32:24 AM
Nice website


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on June 20, 2014, 02:04:22 PM
@ivanlabrie Seems doable as they are on supported exchanges. Will look into it, attending a wedding this weekend though. Maybe I should switch X13 form to cryptonight... tired of those 7days PoW coins.

@bitcoincal Thanks :)


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: mrcashking on June 20, 2014, 10:51:49 PM
Hi, I would like to request WKC WankCoin to be added. It's sha-256,  WankCoin is a gold mine. It's a coin that already has a use.  And Is being used for ecommerce right now.  They even have a commercial on youtube. Currently only a month old. and already being used for e-commerce can't really say that about many other coins that are offered. It will take off once a big exchange picks it up. Currently only on allcoin.com


http://www.WankCoin.com
ANN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=625934.0


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on June 22, 2014, 08:38:15 PM
@mrcashking I need it to be on at least one supported exchange. Bittrex should be the easiest.

Added Razorcoin(RZR) Scrypt, Cachecoin(CACH) Chacha13:
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/96-rzr-scrypt
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/97-cach-chacha-nf13


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: Stealthcoin on June 23, 2014, 04:22:37 AM
Warning to everyone wishing to invest in these coin Razor +VEIL , both these coins have been released by a know scammer who had all his previous coins delisted from Bittrex. He is not even a developer.

They are deleting all posts from their thread with valid accusation and facts that their coins were heavily premined and quickly dumped on the exchange.

Do not get scammed buying these coins. This is a notorious group releasing short supply coins to make a quick profit by selling their Premined coins in the exchange with fake developments promises to get investors interested.  Keep this thread alive so others are aware


http://s27.postimg.org/upnt5hn8z/Scam_Alert.jpg


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on June 23, 2014, 08:04:45 AM
First of all you could have just posted a link to a thread not this noisy image. Please edit.

Secondly, while I agree that VEIL is shady, I think opposite of Razor.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: Thirtybird on June 23, 2014, 01:28:25 PM
@mrcashking I need it to be on at least one supported exchange. Bittrex should be the easiest.

Added Razorcoin(RZR) Scrypt, Cachecoin(CACH) Chacha13:
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/96-rzr-scrypt
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/97-cach-chacha-nf13

Thanks for adding Cachecoin!  It's numbers surprised me for both of my mining rigs (looks like thanks to a big bump in price recently).


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: mrcashking on June 23, 2014, 11:40:46 PM
@mrcashking I need it to be on at least one supported exchange. Bittrex should be the easiest.

Added Razorcoin(RZR) Scrypt, Cachecoin(CACH) Chacha13:
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/96-rzr-scrypt
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/97-cach-chacha-nf13

Community and Team is working on it. I'll keep you posted.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: scottsecret on June 24, 2014, 12:54:18 AM


This site really leap-frogged past the other profitability sites.  Coinwarz appears to be the only site that is competitive with this one.  I'm not sure who is following who at this point.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: corsaro on June 24, 2014, 11:58:45 AM
kindly update karmacoin block reward from old value of 110,000 to new value of 35,000

In fact, after block 200,000 BR changed to 35,000


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on June 24, 2014, 02:20:34 PM
kindly update karmacoin block reward from old value of 110,000 to new value of 35,000

In fact, after block 200,000 BR changed to 35,000

Done and patched wrong stats with correct reward. Corsaro you are my stat watcher :D

@scottsecret Only if all my visitors would agree with you ;)


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: corsaro on June 24, 2014, 04:37:41 PM
kindly update karmacoin block reward from old value of 110,000 to new value of 35,000

In fact, after block 200,000 BR changed to 35,000

Done and patched wrong stats with correct reward. Corsaro you are my stat watcher :D



thanks to you for your excellent web site


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on June 26, 2014, 09:39:03 PM
I have completed the adapt function. If adapt button turns blue it will be enabled, check it out!

http://www.whattomine.com/coins


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: corsaro on June 28, 2014, 06:53:44 AM
I have completed the adapt function. If adapt button turns blue it will be enabled, check it out!

http://www.whattomine.com/coins

fine...  thanks ;)


kindly make a check on saturncoin difficulty...

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/80376827/Screenshot%202014-06-28%2008.56.52.png


checking on some working pools like http://www.coinmine.pw/poolinfo.php?coinid=40 difficulty for last block was 7.6649 at this moment
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/80376827/Screenshot%202014-06-28%2008.57.01.png


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on June 28, 2014, 09:05:00 AM
Yeah explorer has outdated data, I need to get diff from pools. Will fix it in the evening.

http://cryptexplorer.com/chain/SaturnCoin is outdated, please dont use it.
Taking off the list.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: corsaro on June 28, 2014, 11:17:09 AM
Yeah explorer has outdated data, I need to get diff from pools. Will fix it in the evening.

http://cryptexplorer.com/chain/SaturnCoin is outdated, please dont use it.
Taking off the list.

I sent them a tweet ;)

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/80376827/Screenshot%202014-06-28%2013.18.40.png


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on June 28, 2014, 05:39:54 PM
Seems SAT2 has already been launched. Not sure whats going on as pools for SAT1 are still operational.

Waiting for resolution.

Edit: I need to speak with JPC team about block reward changes.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: dav1199 on June 29, 2014, 06:15:54 PM
Think the block reward for Groestlcoin is wrong too , seem to have gone from 205 to 25 now.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on June 29, 2014, 07:48:44 PM
Think the block reward for Groestlcoin is wrong too , seem to have gone from 205 to 25 now.

Fixed, thanks.

I could use some block reward halving newsletter :P


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: corsaro on July 05, 2014, 10:20:38 AM
kindly evaluate to calculate MEOW prices in Litecoins to make more accurate profit calculations about Kittehcoin(MEOW)

https://www.cryptsy.com/markets/view/231


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: corsaro on July 11, 2014, 06:42:38 AM
kindly check saturn2coin block reward. Actual is 2,5


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: Thirtybird on July 11, 2014, 01:10:30 PM
Hey Fredeq, it looks like your source for Ultracoin has got the wrong difficulty.  It's showing at .001, but the blockchain shows .048. 


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on July 11, 2014, 07:50:48 PM
Hey Fredeq, it looks like your source for Ultracoin has got the wrong difficulty.  It's showing at .001, but the blockchain shows .048.  

Yeah just taken it off the list. API for block explorer is giving python error.

@Corsaro Thank you again mate :) Seems that block reward schedule slipped my mind.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: Lima99 on July 11, 2014, 11:41:29 PM
If Possible please add Capital Coin

Updated Source and Thread

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=683450

BLOCKEXPLORER
http://capitalcoin.minepools.net:12570/chain/CapitalCoin

EXCHANGES
https://www.allcrypt.com/market?id=943
https://comkort.com/market/trade/cptl_btc


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on July 12, 2014, 06:55:44 PM
If Possible please add Capital Coin

Updated Source and Thread

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=683450

BLOCKEXPLORER
http://capitalcoin.minepools.net:12570/chain/CapitalCoin

EXCHANGES
https://www.allcrypt.com/market?id=943
https://comkort.com/market/trade/cptl_btc

I need it to be on supported exchanges first, like bittrex, poloniex, cryptsy or mintpal.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: Lima99 on July 12, 2014, 11:04:24 PM
If Possible please add Capital Coin

Updated Source and Thread

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=683450

BLOCKEXPLORER
http://capitalcoin.minepools.net:12570/chain/CapitalCoin

EXCHANGES
https://www.allcrypt.com/market?id=943
https://comkort.com/market/trade/cptl_btc

I need it to be on supported exchanges first, like bittrex, poloniex, cryptsy or mintpal.

OK
Working on getting it back on bittrex


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: corsaro on July 13, 2014, 12:10:28 PM
Hey Fredeq, it looks like your source for Ultracoin has got the wrong difficulty.  It's showing at .001, but the blockchain shows .048.  

Yeah just taken it off the list. API for block explorer is giving python error.

@Corsaro Thank you again mate :) Seems that block reward schedule slipped my mind.


thanks to you ;)

kindly check USDE block reward: it looks like 1000 now ;)
http://usde.poolerino.com/index.php?page=statistics&action=blocks


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: digitalindustry on July 13, 2014, 12:40:53 PM
obviously i use

http://www.coinwarz.com/cryptocurrency

Coinwarz.

much nicer


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on July 13, 2014, 06:55:52 PM
@digitalindustry Sorry that I do not have cpu coins like quark. Maybe will add them after cryptonight ;)

@Corsaro Fixed. I will try to do an audit of all the schedules next week.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: corsaro on July 15, 2014, 07:23:25 PM
@digitalindustry Sorry that I do not have cpu coins like quark. Maybe will add them after cryptonight ;)

@Corsaro Fixed. I will try to do an audit of all the schedules next week.

kindly take a look at mazacoin (sha-256) BR. Actual BR is 1000
http://www.ispace.co.uk/coindetails/?coin=mzc

Thanks in advance ;)


Title: UNO update
Post by: FallingKnife on July 16, 2014, 01:57:16 PM
Hi guys,
Just wanted to provide you with some updated in for Unobtanium/UNO.

The official website for UNO has changed to http://unobtanium.uno   (unobtanium.io is now offline).

There is an old explorer out there on the wrong fork. Please check and be sure you are not getting your data from a an explorer on the wrong fork (KGW hit at block 450k). Current block is around 459k;  bad fork is around 470k. Cryptexplorer.com is correct. suggest using this explorer, or Chainz.

New explorers are online. Here are the links to machine readable info for Uno, in case you need them.

   http://cryptexplorer.com/chain/Unobtanium/q/getdifficulty
   http://chainz.cryptoid.info/uno/api.dws?q=getdifficulty
   http://cryptexplorer.com/chain/Unobtanium/q/getblockcount
   http://chainz.cryptoid.info/uno/api.dws?q=getblockcount
   http://chainz.cryptoid.info/uno/api.dws?q=netmhashps
   http://chainz.cryptoid.info/uno/api.dws?q=nethashps
   http://chainz.cryptoid.info/uno/api.dws?q=hashrate
   http://chainz.cryptoid.info/uno/api.dws?q=totalcoins
   http://cryptexplorer.com/chain/Unobtanium/q/totalbc
   http://chainz.cryptoid.info/uno/api.dws?q=totalbc

thanks,


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: henryjames1003 on July 16, 2014, 04:24:56 PM
pretty nice! how often adding new coins? waiting for Bytecoin(bcn)


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on July 17, 2014, 05:42:04 AM
@FallingKnife  Thank you for info, I will update it in a sec. Edit: I was already using cryptexplorer, no harm done :)

@henryjames1003 Lately I am only adding coins on demand or when I see something with big volume like URO.
I will be very occupied till the end of august, until then please do not hesitate to request any coins that are on supported exchanges. :)

Edit: I will switch all chacha13 coins to chacha14 tomorrow morning, as I will be going away for the weekend.
Not sure, at which hour the coins are going to switch for real tbh.


Title: Huge difference between WhatToMine and CoinWarz
Post by: ninhld on July 22, 2014, 08:34:17 PM
Hi fredeq,

its really great your site and very useful for me.
But for some coins, I spotted a huge difference between numbers of your site and that of CoinWarz, here is an example:
(those 2 pages/screenshot are gerenated at the same time)

On your site :
http://ninhld.free.fr/coins/whattomine.jpg

On CoinWarz
http://ninhld.free.fr/coins/coinwarz.jpg

The nethash for NAUT on your site is 67.62 Ghs, but on CoinWarz is only 8.82 Ghs

Could you please explaine this difference?

I dont know which one is correct, but 67 Ghs for me is quite a big number.

Best regards,
ninhld


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on July 22, 2014, 09:08:52 PM
Hello ninhld :)

I am glad that you got the same results for all the main stats, like difficulty and block reward. Now about nethash.
I got asked about that in the past - my explanation should be somewhere in the thread.

Basically coinwarz and every other coin site that relies on wallet data will give you nethash straight from the wallet(should be most precise).
WTM and alike that rely on blockchains and pools to get the data, will extrapolate it directly from difficulty.

In theory both numbers should be the same, but sometimes they arent.
I have looked around and I think why its wrong in this case. While ago we had a conversation here about block_time generations.

If you look at http://naut.v2.dedicatedpool.com/index.php?page=statistics&action=pool or http://nau.bitember.com/index.php?page=statistics&action=pool you will see that
block time generation for the network is 7 minutes 39 seconds. Should be 1 minute. Thats 7,65 times more than it should be.

Now if you get true hashrate of 8,82 and multiply it by our error factor: 8,82 x 7,65 = 67,47. Pretty close aye? ;)

I cannot explain why naut blockchain is generating blocks slower than it should be - basically diff is too high for current nethash. I see that naut has digishield - former speaker about block_time generations pinpointed the issue to this retarget algorithm.

tldr: Naut retarget isint working properly, while WTM assumes the diff is correct to maintain target block_time.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: ninhld on July 22, 2014, 09:55:04 PM
Fredeq,

I might be wrong here, but I think that if the wallet hashrate is 8,82 and the error factor is  7,65, the 'real hashrate' would be 8,82 / 7,65  = 1,15 Ghs
This would explain the block time generation for the network is 7 minutes 39 seconds, instead of 1 minute, because the real nethash is too low for the current difficulty.
I just check http://liteshack.com/?coin=naut, and at this site, the nethash for NAUT is around 1,9 Ghs at the time at this writing, not too far from 1,15 Ghs

Are you agree with this calculation for the error factor?


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on July 22, 2014, 10:31:24 PM
I really doubt that. Wallet calculations are very precise, as they take last "N" number of solved blocks, compare their generation intervals and get a mean value from that.
It means that they are free from any error factors - they truly represent hashrate power being target at a certain blockchain(still in the past).

It is far more plausible for me that liteshack devs are aware of the issue and tried to compensate(but got it wrong and are decreasing nethash). I mean there is no real way of calculating current net_hash.
Absolutely none. You can only compare difficulty of a past block with its time_since_last_block and go from there.

EDIT: Or they have a formula for each coin to lower nethash by the amount of "current_block_time / target_block_time" - It would make sense, as it would make their nethash calculations more precise.
Unfortunately in this case its working in their disadvantage, as the diff_retarget is faulty and they(as I do) assume it works perfectly.

By that argument I conclude that the real nethash for naut is in fact around 8,82 and the diff should be 7,65 times smaller to allow 1 minute block_time.

EDIT2: I think my explanation may not seem right at the first sight so here is an example:
Everything goes back to normal and naut has 1 minute block_time blocks. To achieve that either diff goes x7,65 smaller or hashrate x7,65 higher. Lets take first case.

Diff goes x7,65 smaller -> Coinwarz stays the same, as their calculations reflect the true state of blockchain. WTM now gives you x7,65 smaller hash rate, cause diff is smaller. Liteshack does not lower their nethash by x7,65 cause block time is right on target ( current_block_time / target_block_time = 1 ). Every site reports the same nethash.


EDIT3: HR did give me this link to Digibyte's post, where he acknowledges the issues and explains factors that made it possible(in general only):
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=591114.msg7731756#msg7731756


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on July 24, 2014, 08:19:18 PM
Changed layout a bit, added nist5 form + prepared for 2 new algos.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on July 26, 2014, 09:33:06 PM
Added CryptoNight algo with Monero for start:
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/101-xmr-cryptonight

Please report your 280x hashrate/wattage if you mined it. :)

Edit: Added more CN coins:
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/102-fcn-cryptonight
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/105-qcn-cryptonight
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/104-xdn-cryptonight
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/103-bcn-cryptonight


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on September 02, 2014, 09:29:50 AM
I see that everyone is waiting for better mining times with GPU ;)

Lately I have only been doing maintenance and adding coins on requests, plus some backend improvements invisible to visitors.
Added adaptation for 750ti cards.
Thinking about adding config switcher, up to 5 sets of values for different kinds of your miners.

Dont hesitate to ask for coins/algos here, on pm, on twitter and through contact page :D


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: yespeace on September 14, 2014, 02:46:42 PM
OlympicCoin has rebranded! (changed name to Aricoin)

other pages:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=453085.new#new
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=759423.new#new

Market place:
https://cryptex.biz/market/70
https://www.mintpal.com/market/ARI/BTC

Could you please add this coin on your site?



Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: HR on September 14, 2014, 08:42:28 PM

Long time no see fredeq. How's it going with you?

DigiByte has gone multi-algo: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=408268.0

Surely an interest generator at very least for WhatToMine, and, at best, a very hot coin that might even interest you (to even be buying on the open market).

They stepped up to the plate and really turned things around. I think DGB is going to be one of the few big winners long term.

Hope all is well, and take care.



Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on September 17, 2014, 06:33:21 AM
@yespeace Already looking into it. ;)

@HR Hello. I am fine, thanks. Married now and back from honeymoon :D

I still need to add coins that were requested + update stats sites of some coins. Btw I read somewhere that Digi diff retarget is still pain in the ass, hope its fixed after all.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on September 22, 2014, 04:20:44 PM
Added few coins like Aricoin, Honorcoin, Ripoffcoin ;)
Updated Digibyte with multialgo.

Next step - look into Doge merged mining.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on October 03, 2014, 07:09:15 PM
Coins that stats have not been updated, for more than 1 hour will now assign status - background color + label "lagging".

Available from json as well for devs.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: lifeforcepools on October 04, 2014, 11:37:26 AM
very nice - would you add a sort-by 'network hash' please in your drop down list or sort-by fields?


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: HR on October 04, 2014, 12:02:59 PM

@HR Hello. I am fine, thanks. Married now and back from honeymoon :D

I still need to add coins that were requested + update stats sites of some coins. Btw I read somewhere that Digi diff retarget is still pain in the ass, hope its fixed after all.

Congratulations and welcome back! (even if this is a bit belated)

Looks like you've got DigiByte showing up pretty accurately - I've been checking the website from time to time and it's been looking good to me.

Best wishes for many years of happy marriage . . . now that the honeymoon is over.   :D



Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on October 06, 2014, 04:00:35 PM
very nice - would you add a sort-by 'network hash' please in your drop down list or sort-by fields?

Sure, I can do that[DONE]. Please remember that nethash is only an estimate - you cant measure current hashrate targetted at a certain blockchain.

@HR Thank you mate :D


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: Beave162 on October 19, 2014, 02:36:00 AM
fredeq, any chance you can update NFactor 16 (YACoin) to h/s as opposed to khash/s? I don't think there is a single gpu or cpu at this point that can reach 1 khash/s at this NFactor. Thanks again for you spectacular site!


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on October 20, 2014, 07:46:06 AM
fredeq, any chance you can update NFactor 16 (YACoin) to h/s as opposed to khash/s? I don't think there is a single gpu or cpu at this point that can reach 1 khash/s at this NFactor. Thanks again for you spectacular site!

Reasonable request, will try to change it in the evening. :)


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: TheDragonSlayer on October 20, 2014, 08:39:00 AM
Nice website, just too bad that the profitability is really low..


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on October 22, 2014, 09:32:10 PM
fredeq, any chance you can update NFactor 16 (YACoin) to h/s as opposed to khash/s? I don't think there is a single gpu or cpu at this point that can reach 1 khash/s at this NFactor. Thanks again for you spectacular site!

Reasonable request, will try to change it in the evening. :)

Thats done now, had a lo on my mind earlier :P

@TheDragonSlayer Thanks, unfortunately you are correct, hope we recover from all the scams.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: Thirtybird on October 23, 2014, 01:54:53 PM
fredeq, any chance you can update NFactor 16 (YACoin) to h/s as opposed to khash/s? I don't think there is a single gpu or cpu at this point that can reach 1 khash/s at this NFactor. Thanks again for you spectacular site!

Reasonable request, will try to change it in the evening. :)

Thats done now, had a lo on my mind earlier :P

@TheDragonSlayer Thanks, unfortunately you are correct, hope we recover from all the scams.

Explains why YACoin fell off my list to the very bottom... It's a good change, just not very obvious that that one is not like the others (since why would I read?)


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on October 24, 2014, 08:48:33 PM
fredeq, any chance you can update NFactor 16 (YACoin) to h/s as opposed to khash/s? I don't think there is a single gpu or cpu at this point that can reach 1 khash/s at this NFactor. Thanks again for you spectacular site!

Reasonable request, will try to change it in the evening. :)

Thats done now, had a lo on my mind earlier :P

@TheDragonSlayer Thanks, unfortunately you are correct, hope we recover from all the scams.

Explains why YACoin fell off my list to the very bottom... It's a good change, just not very obvious that that one is not like the others (since why would I read?)

Yeah I figured it would happen, when I was coding it. Unfortunately thats the pain of cookie storage - no way to multiply the wrong values and leave the good ones intact ;)

Will try to come up with some sort of notification for that in the future.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on October 27, 2014, 08:29:22 PM
Added Neoscrypt with adapt values. Both AMD and nVidia cards can be run by this cgminer fork(useful links):

https://forum.feathercoin.com/index.php?/topic/7949-the-un-official-how-do-i-mine-neoscrypt-with-cgminer-377b-and-an-ati-gpu-thread/

Long story short 750ti will work out of the box, while for 280x you need to downgrade to catalyst 13.12. My settings:
750ti: --neoscrypt -I 14 -g 1 -w 128 (42 khash)
280x: --neoscrypt -I 15 -g 2 -w 32   (90 khash) - you may get better results when you first drop to 13.12, create bins and go back to whatever 14 you had.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: jimlite on October 28, 2014, 12:52:46 AM
280x only goes up to I 14. I 15 won't work.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on October 28, 2014, 08:14:46 AM
280x only goes up to I 14. I 15 won't work.

With cgminer 3.7.5 I couldnt go I15, but here is the screenshot of 3.7.7 running I15(around 8khash boost):

http://i.imgur.com/w5PNSU9.png


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on December 12, 2014, 08:00:41 PM
Added some coins, nothing revolutionary though.

Updated default asic stats to nowadays devices, therefore old cookie have been replaced by a new one (for asic section only).
http://www.whattomine.com/asic


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on December 14, 2014, 08:39:56 PM
Updated Neoscrypt settings for 280x, above settings are outdated. In case you want to check the correct ones, please refer to this blog post:

http://cryptomining-blog.com/3807-new-sgminer-5-dev-with-neoscrypt-workaround-fix-for-amd-users/


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: BTCat on December 29, 2014, 11:48:13 AM
Hi. Would you like to add Checkcoin to your site? CKC is developing software for using cryptocurrency together with GPS geocaching. A serious project!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=715563.0

Thanks.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: patrike on December 29, 2014, 01:44:46 PM
Hi,

Thanks for a great service! I'm working on adding support for coin statistics from WhatToMine in Awesome Miner. There are some coins like MoonCoin where the exchange rate is based on Litecoin instead of Bitcoin. When looking at the API data, there is no way of telling that the current exchange rate is specified in relation to Litecoin.



Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on January 03, 2015, 01:43:04 AM
Hi. Would you like to add Checkcoin to your site? CKC is developing software for using cryptocurrency together with GPS geocaching. A serious project!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=715563.0

Thanks.

Hey,

Added, looks like a solid coin :)
Had to reverse colors for the logo though, always can change if devs want something else (has to be circular though)

@Patrike
Tomorrow I will add a new field, like exchange_rate_base.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: BTCat on January 03, 2015, 10:03:29 AM
Hey,

Added, looks like a solid coin :)
Had to reverse colors for the logo though, always can change if devs want something else (has to be circular though)

Wonderfull, thanks very much. The colors are fine like this  :D


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on January 03, 2015, 03:28:51 PM
Hi,

Thanks for a great service! I'm working on adding support for coin statistics from WhatToMine in Awesome Miner. There are some coins like MoonCoin where the exchange rate is based on Litecoin instead of Bitcoin. When looking at the API data, there is no way of telling that the current exchange rate is specified in relation to Litecoin.



Its done, you can find new variable 'exchange_rate_curr' that will list the base currency rate.
LTC is only used for Mooncoin [MOON], Fedoracoin [TIPS] and Kittehcoin [MEOW] (no longer listed as active)

I got some requests for coins that I will try to proccess tomorrow.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: patrike on January 03, 2015, 06:45:41 PM
Hi,

Thanks for a great service! I'm working on adding support for coin statistics from WhatToMine in Awesome Miner. There are some coins like MoonCoin where the exchange rate is based on Litecoin instead of Bitcoin. When looking at the API data, there is no way of telling that the current exchange rate is specified in relation to Litecoin.

Its done, you can find new variable 'exchange_rate_curr' that will list the base currency rate.
LTC is only used for Mooncoin [MOON], Fedoracoin [TIPS] and Kittehcoin [MEOW] (no longer listed as active)

I got some requests for coins that I will try to proccess tomorrow.
Many thanks! I just tried this and it works just great.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: BTCat on January 26, 2015, 05:50:15 PM
Nakamotodark is looking for pools. Could you help by listing it on your site?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=896354.0

Also was wondering why you haven't got CGB on there. It's been around since mid 2013 and has a solid reputation:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=245086.0


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: Corenin on January 26, 2015, 06:03:39 PM
i have checked the website but not sure if they are correct, specially with coins that use difficulty retarget after every block
i use them for information about coin like hashrate,difficulty,volume etc


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on January 28, 2015, 11:46:40 AM
Nakamotodark is looking for pools. Could you help by listing it on your site?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=896354.0

Also was wondering why you haven't got CGB on there. It's been around since mid 2013 and has a solid reputation:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=245086.0

Will try to get listed NKM and CGB (prolly not listed cause of lack of explorer in the past when I was reviewing it)

i have checked the website but not sure if they are correct, specially with coins that use difficulty retarget after every block
i use them for information about coin like hashrate,difficulty,volume etc

Main list is sorted by profitability24 by default (uses an average difficulty over past 24h), revenue though is shown for current difficulty.
This may indeed be confusing, maybe better to switch both to `24` by default.

Edit: Added Nfactor 15 with UTC and removed NIST form. Added CGB.



Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: BTCat on February 02, 2015, 04:13:51 PM
Thanks for adding CGB to your site.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: Beave162 on February 09, 2015, 01:22:58 PM
Absolutely, bar none, by far the best mining profitability website out there...!

A couple of comments:

1) I didn't know until just now (by accident) that when I click on the individual coins that I could do an analysis for ROI and such. Is it possible/practical to add an estimate for difficulty increases? I'm thinking specifically for bitcoin/litecoin as I imagine the difficulty adjustments of other coins make it impractical.

2) I don't believe the auto-populated 750ti numbers are accurate for NF15, NF16. I know they are just estimates. Is there a reasonable way to let people input their real-world results? I have R7 240 4GBs, and it would also be great to see that up there. That feature is quite amazing though. Thank you!


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on February 09, 2015, 03:43:44 PM
Absolutely, bar none, by far the best mining profitability website out there...!

A couple of comments:

1) I didn't know until just now (by accident) that when I click on the individual coins that I could do an analysis for ROI and such. Is it possible/practical to add an estimate for difficulty increases? I'm thinking specifically for bitcoin/litecoin as I imagine the difficulty adjustments of other coins make it impractical.

2) I don't believe the auto-populated 750ti numbers are accurate for NF15, NF16. I know they are just estimates. Is there a reasonable way to let people input their real-world results? I have R7 240 4GBs, and it would also be great to see that up there. That feature is quite amazing though. Thank you!


Thanks Beave :D

1) It sounds reasonable to add a field like "monthly diff increase" in percents, so a user could customize it.
I am also thinking about somehow including users hashrate into diff estimate. This wont do anything for coins with huge nethash (at least for sane values),
but will matter if coin nethash equals to like 10 750tis. And such coins are listed right now unfortunately.

Not that coins with such low hashrate are much alive :P

2) I test the values myself, havent tweaked it much fro NF15, NF16... there is a possiblity you could get more, not less though and that was my main point.
On the main site I encourage users to input their own hashrates - this is the only way for the site to report as accurate results as possible.

As for the R7, its prolly used only for chachas cause of the funny amount of vram used ;) Think we can all assume those cards are for chachas only (maybe cpu coins too?)
Moreover I dont own R7 and would not be able to test the values myself.

I dont get the last question though "Is there a reasonable way to let people input their real-world results?".
You are able to input your hashrate at main and single coin sites as you see fit.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: Beave162 on February 11, 2015, 01:48:33 PM
1) It sounds reasonable to add a field like "monthly diff increase" in percents, so a user could customize it.
I am also thinking about somehow including users hashrate into diff estimate. This wont do anything for coins with huge nethash (at least for sane values),
but will matter if coin nethash equals to like 10 750tis. And such coins are listed right now unfortunately.

Not that coins with such low hashrate are much alive :P

Wow, that is a good point. Yea, I think it is understandable to not take into account how one guys mining rig will completely throw off the numbers for some of the coins. ha

2) I test the values myself, havent tweaked it much fro NF15, NF16... there is a possiblity you could get more, not less though and that was my main point.
On the main site I encourage users to input their own hashrates - this is the only way for the site to report as accurate results as possible.

As for the R7, its prolly used only for chachas cause of the funny amount of vram used ;) Think we can all assume those cards are for chachas only (maybe cpu coins too?)
Moreover I dont own R7 and would not be able to test the values myself.

I dont get the last question though "Is there a reasonable way to let people input their real-world results?".
You are able to input your hashrate at main and single coin sites as you see fit.

Are you saying a 750ti gets 4.5 khash/s at NF15 at a minimum...?!? I understand it gets around 1 khash/s...

Yea, I am quite bias toward chacha. I mean, the way I see it, you have two fronts of technology (brute processing speed and memory requirements). I feel Bitcoin will always be the king of processing speed, but as newer CPUs and GPUs advance in the memory realm, chacha will rule that space :) Everything else is just 'in-between'.

I was wondering if I could input my R7 240 4GB values, and let others see those results without them having to buy one and test it out for themselves. I'm trying to imagine how that would be possible and all inclusive through your site. Of course, who is to say those numbers would be accurate anyway.

It is best for one to input their own tested hashrates. Like I said, no other site comes close to whattomine.com in calculating actual profitability, and I thank you for that!


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on February 11, 2015, 05:26:02 PM
Are you saying a 750ti gets 4.5 khash/s at NF15 at a minimum...?!? I understand it gets around 1 khash/s...

I was feeling that is your problem, in the past someone reported this as well.

By pressing `280x` or `750ti` you are not inputting values for that card. You are telling WTM "Hey here is my scrypt hashrate for those cards, please adapt it to other algos".
And it really is the best solution. If you would like to see values for one of those cards (keep in mind that those values are guaranteed with stock cards, no oc),
please input 730kh and press 280x or 265kh and press 750ti. For power usage I would do 280W and 75W respectively. (again stock, not underclocked/undervoltaged)

If you hover your mouse over those buttons, there is a tip about it too... Guess noone looked for that ;)

I was wondering if I could input my R7 240 4GB values, and let others see those results without them having to buy one and test it out for themselves. I'm trying to imagine how that would be possible and all inclusive through your site. Of course, who is to say those numbers would be accurate anyway.

You can share your results with others by simple url paste.
You have to hit calculate though for the url to fill (going back to main site / clicking on GPU section will take the values from cookies and not fill the url)

PS
Regarding adapt values... I dont think theres been much change for 280x lately, but I may update some algos for 750ti, as I have seen some new miner builds with increased performance.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: BTCat on February 11, 2015, 05:51:57 PM
CGB just rebranded to CBX. You can grab the new logo here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=951753.0


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on February 11, 2015, 06:26:54 PM
CGB just rebranded to CBX. You can grab the new logo here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=951753.0

Updated, thanks for the info! I think the logo stays the same though ;)


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: Beave162 on February 11, 2015, 10:52:32 PM

I was feeling that is your problem, in the past someone reported this as well.

By pressing `280x` or `750ti` you are not inputting values for that card. You are telling WTM "Hey here is my scrypt hashrate for those cards, please adapt it to other algos".
And it really is the best solution. If you would like to see values for one of those cards (keep in mind that those values are guaranteed with stock cards, no oc),
please input 730kh and press 280x or 265kh and press 750ti. For power usage I would do 280W and 75W respectively. (again stock, not underclocked/undervoltaged)

If you hover your mouse over those buttons, there is a tip about it too... Guess noone looked for that ;)

You can share your results with others by simple url paste.
You have to hit calculate though for the url to fill (going back to main site / clicking on GPU section will take the values from cookies and not fill the url)

PS
Regarding adapt values... I dont think theres been much change for 280x lately, but I may update some algos for 750ti, as I have seen some new miner builds with increased performance.

Thanks, fredeq. The 750ti numbers make a lot more sense now ;P


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on February 22, 2015, 04:16:06 PM
An interesting feature that may not be obvious to everyone, is that you can customize API JSON output.

Simply take your WTM url from browser and append .json before the params.
Here is the curl example with default values used:
Code:
curl "http://www.whattomine.com/coins.json?utf8=%E2%9C%93&scryptf=true&factor%5Bscrypt_hash_rate%5D=1000.0&factor%5Bscrypt_power%5D=380.0&scrypt_nf=true&factor%5Bscrypt_n_hr%5D=450.0&factor%5Bscrypt_n_p%5D=330.6&cha15f=true&factor%5Bcha15_hr%5D=3.0&factor%5Bcha15_p%5D=228.0&cha16f=true&factor%5Bcha16_hr%5D=400.0&factor%5Bcha16_p%5D=228.0&x11f=true&factor%5Bx11_hr%5D=5600.0&factor%5Bx11_p%5D=266.0&x13f=true&factor%5Bx13_hr%5D=4000.0&factor%5Bx13_p%5D=266.0&cn=true&factor%5Bcn_hr%5D=640.0&factor%5Bcn_p%5D=304.0&ns=true&factor%5Bns_hr%5D=410.0&factor%5Bns_p%5D=228.0&adapt=true&factor%5Bcost%5D=0.2&commit=Calculate&sort=&volume=&revenue=&keccakf=true&factor%5Bkeccak_hr%5D=480.0&factor%5Bkeccak_p%5D=304.0&grof=true&factor%5Bgro_hr%5D=15.0&factor%5Bgro_p%5D=228.0&n5=true&factor%5Bn5_hr%5D=16.0&factor%5Bn5_p%5D=228.0&lre=true&factor%5Blre_hr%5D=1150.0&factor%5Blre_p%5D=228.0"

Notice that you can switch algos on/off and customize filters like sort, volume and revenue, same as through browser.
I recommend using all of the params, dont delete algo values, simply change true to false.

Small notification. Myr-groestl that is used only for Myriad / Digibyte has its multiplier hardcoded for 280x (1,9 x groestl_hr). Remember that when checking nvidia profitability!
I may change that in the future, either by adding this to main field, or by allowing param input of those values.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on March 07, 2015, 03:00:12 PM
WTM will now take into account difficulty increase, caused by your added hash rate, when calculating revenues.

This should produce more accurate results, especially for the coins with low network hash rate.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: HR on March 20, 2015, 08:24:06 AM

Bitcoin Scammers Run Off With $12 Million: “Going to The Caribbean… Hope You Guys Understand” (http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-19/bitcoin-scammers-run-12-million-%E2%80%9Cgoing-caribbean%E2%80%A6-hope-you-guys-understand%E2%80%9D)

Darknet Market Evolution Unreachable, Funds Stolen (https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/darknet-market-evolution-unreachable-funds-stolen/)

Dark Market Evolution Vanishes With $12 Million in Bitcoin (http://www.coindesk.com/dark-market-evolution-vanishes-with-12-million-in-bitcoin/)


Aren't people tired of being ripped off yet?

Isn't it time to get serious and seriously start backing coins that are transparent?

We really need to make our voices heard.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on March 20, 2015, 08:44:32 AM
Sad indeed, but wasnt that used for illegal drug market? Thats kind of risky to begin with :P

I feel you though, often before adding a coin that feels 'shady' I keep second guessing myself.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on March 20, 2015, 07:51:37 PM
Added WhirlpoolX algo with Vanillacoin to the main fields.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: HR on March 20, 2015, 11:40:49 PM
Sad indeed, but wasnt that used for illegal drug market? Thats kind of risky to begin with :P

I feel you though, often before adding a coin that feels 'shady' I keep second guessing myself.

Just another heist in what is becoming a very long list (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=576337.0) very fast . . . and that's because everyone refuses to even recognize the issue for fear of losing their "anonymity" (which is really only an illusion to begin with . . . most likely perpetuated by those who continue to rob the sheeple blind).

I wasn't affected. I'm not that stupid.

I am interested in taking crypto legit though, and that is what motivated my post.

Great to see you still plugging away. Whenever I want reliable mining stats, or someone asks, Whattomine is the answer.

Take care, and best regards.




Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on March 21, 2015, 09:44:51 PM
Thanks, keep it cool man ;)


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on April 03, 2015, 06:24:26 AM
I have lately updated Dash(Darkcoin) block reward calculation.
Now properly returns miners part of the block.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: Grout on May 09, 2015, 07:58:38 PM
Hi,

Can we hope to see Quark/Qubit based coins in the near future?
They have been the most profitable algos for Nvidia cards for a while now...


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on May 10, 2015, 07:03:12 AM
Hi,

Can we hope to see Quark/Qubit based coins in the near future?
They have been the most profitable algos for Nvidia cards for a while now...

Hey,
Sure, let me start with qubit as already present for myriad and digibyte, will look into quark next.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on May 10, 2015, 08:15:03 AM
Added Qubit input fields, will look for more coins later.

Also updated 750ti adapt numbers for x11, x13 algos.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on May 26, 2015, 06:46:46 PM
Added Quark fields to main list.

Changed Qubit input to Mhash/s, please update your hashes.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on May 28, 2015, 05:57:42 PM
Added C-Cex support. Will update markets when available.

For starters listing Ambercoin http://www.whattomine.com/coins/133-amber-x13


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: WigitGetIt on June 07, 2015, 03:39:08 PM
I just sent a request through the site to add Yescrypt and GlobalBoost-Y.  I am posting the data here for you as well.  I hope they can be added.

Hello,

I would like for GlobalBoost-Y (BSTY) to be added.  It uses the algo Yescrypt which would be new to the site.  I have added the below information.  Yescrypt is CPU and GPU mineable.  Yescrypt was not designed by the coin team.  The developer goes by Solar Designer and is not officially affiliated with our project.

Yescrypt GitHub: https://github.com/bsdphk/PHC/tree/master/Yescrypt
Yescrypt OpenWall: http://www.openwall.com/presentations/PHDays2014-Yescrypt/

GlobalBoost-Y GitHub: https://github.com/GlobalBoost/GlobalBoost-Y
GlobalBoost-Y Wallets GitHub: https://github.com/GlobalBoost/GlobalBoost-Y/releases

Coin Site: http://globalboost-y.com/ (Everything You would need is there Exchanges, Pools, and Miners etc..)
BCT: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=775289.0

Exchanges

Askcoin:  https://askcoin.net/trading/BSTY/BTC
Bittrex: https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-BSTY
Bleutrade: https://bleutrade.com/exchange/BSTY/BTC
C-Cex:  https://c-cex.com/?p=bsty-btc
Yobit:  https://yobit.net/en/trade/BSTY/BTC

Miners

Windows CCMiner: https://mega.co.nz/#!dR1mwTIb!22mH7em1FX2F81-C5vl9Wbb7o4RG57e82bNVfvFwInE (https://mega.co.nz/#!dR1mwTIb!22mH7em1FX2F81-C5vl9Wbb7o4RG57e82bNVfvFwInE)
Windows SGMiner: https://mega.co.nz/#!OYlHyJRb!C_jPY3sz3WbfB2V1n4rjKQ218x-elcevsUkupzj7VIs (https://mega.co.nz/#!OYlHyJRb!C_jPY3sz3WbfB2V1n4rjKQ218x-elcevsUkupzj7VIs)

CCMiner GitHub: https://github.com/djm34/ccminer-tpsp
SGMiner GitHub:  https://github.com/djm34/sgminer

Mining
P2P Pool:   http://bsty.bitcoin.net.co:7225/static/
P2P Pool:  http://p2pool.e-pool.net:8961/static/
P2P Pool:  http://lennier.info:7225/static/
MPOS Pool: http://bsty.hashlink.eu/
MPOS Pool: https://www.suchpool.pw/bsty

Block Explorers
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/bsty/
https://explorer.globalboo.st/
https://explorer.globalboo.st/
http://www.multifaucet.tk/index.php?blockexplorer=BSTY

IRC: https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.kiwiirc.com/#GlobalBoost

Please let me know if you need anything else.

Thank You,

@wigitgetit (BCT, Twitter, IRC)


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on June 07, 2015, 06:57:49 PM
You have provided a big supply of information, very nice :D

As I already told you on twitter, I will look into it.
Got two things I would like to finish before new algo is added as well.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: WigitGetIt on June 07, 2015, 10:54:39 PM
You have provided a big supply of information, very nice :D

As I already told you on twitter, I will look into it.
Got two things I would like to finish before new algo is added as well.

I posted here before twitter.  As I tweeted the link to this post. ;). Not a harasser or anything like that.  ;D


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on June 08, 2015, 11:53:49 PM
You have provided a big supply of information, very nice :D

As I already told you on twitter, I will look into it.
Got two things I would like to finish before new algo is added as well.

I posted here before twitter.  As I tweeted the link to this post. ;). Not a harasser or anything like that.  ;D

Not accusing you of anything, just wanted to reply here as well. ;)
Just finished one of the two things - exchanges list in solo section, now have to update whats missing.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: WigitGetIt on June 09, 2015, 03:29:33 AM
You have provided a big supply of information, very nice :D

As I already told you on twitter, I will look into it.
Got two things I would like to finish before new algo is added as well.

I posted here before twitter.  As I tweeted the link to this post. ;). Not a harasser or anything like that.  ;D

Not accusing you of anything, just wanted to reply here as well. ;)
Just finished one of the two things - exchanges list in solo section, now have to update whats missing.

Okay cool.   ;D

Can't wait to see what-else you are going to add.  It's my go to site for when I rent and mine with my bitmain S5's.   ;D


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: WigitGetIt on June 15, 2015, 10:55:34 AM
You have provided a big supply of information, very nice :D

As I already told you on twitter, I will look into it.
Got two things I would like to finish before new algo is added as well.

I posted here before twitter.  As I tweeted the link to this post. ;). Not a harasser or anything like that.  ;D

Not accusing you of anything, just wanted to reply here as well. ;)
Just finished one of the two things - exchanges list in solo section, now have to update whats missing.

Okay cool.   ;D

Can't wait to see what-else you are going to add.  It's my go to site for when I rent and mine with my bitmain S5's.   ;D

Thanks again fredeq  ;D for adding $BSTY to the site.  http://www.whattomine.com/coins/138-bsty-yescrypt


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on June 17, 2015, 12:20:14 AM
You are welcome :)

Improved difficulty and hashrate display for BSTY (precision)
Improved navbar, added more coin tickers.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on June 25, 2015, 12:47:32 AM
Reactivated VNL Vanillacoin, PoW is back.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on July 28, 2015, 12:07:07 PM
Added NiceHash 'coins' for reference.

You can now compare mining available coins to mining the same algorithm directly on nicehash, rewards are in BTC.
Current price and average 24h price come from NiceHash api, so the rewards and revenues are just a multiplication of `hash_rate * price`

Exchange rate link will take you straight to NiceHash orders for given algo.
Also listing current nethash(speed from NiceHash api) with change from 24h average.

I will add 3day and 7day profitability calculation, once I gather enough prices to calculate the average.
Happy mining :)


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: svost on July 30, 2015, 02:29:33 PM
What it means: novacoin status: Active(lagging) ?


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on July 30, 2015, 10:06:28 PM
What it means: novacoin status: Active(lagging) ?

A small message will appear if you hover above it (only at index page though):
"This coin stats were updated more than an hour ago and may be outdated"


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on August 12, 2015, 07:12:53 PM
Migrated VTC to new algoritm Lyra2REv2 and added new NiceHash endpoint for the same algo.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: depboy on August 18, 2015, 07:36:30 PM
Some of the exchange rates seem not to be updating.  Specifically DGB & MYR (coincidentally both stuck @ 20 satoshis), though there may be others too.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on August 19, 2015, 06:53:35 AM
Migrated VTC to new algoritm Lyra2REv2 and added new NiceHash endpoint for the same algo.

Thank you for the report.
Recently I was optimizing the rate fetch and MYR and DGB uses a bit different method.

I will fix this asap.

EDIT: Fixed, coins affected where MYR, DGB and DGC.
Only display of current rate was faulty, data in db is valid.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on September 09, 2015, 09:27:08 AM
I have fixed an issue for people with outdated cookies not able to open index.
It should load default values now.

Lately thinking about removing scrypt from GPU section.
DASH will probably be the new reference coin.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on September 17, 2015, 07:56:57 PM
Added timestamp attribute to easily verify stats creation.
http://www.whattomine.com/coins.json


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on October 18, 2015, 03:22:19 AM
As of recent DGB Digibyte block reward calculation is perfectly on spot.

On a side note, nicehash mining is producing the most stable results, just pick your favourite algo :)
https://www.nicehash.com/index.jsp (https://www.nicehash.com/index.jsp)


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on October 24, 2015, 06:01:03 PM
Added support for NiceHash ChaCha(16) algo.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on November 06, 2015, 06:40:22 AM
Replaced chacha16 with chacha14 due to Ultracoin switch.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: depboy on December 04, 2015, 03:36:55 PM
FYI, DGB forked to digispeed today. Block reward needs adjusting.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on December 04, 2015, 08:53:33 PM
FYI, DGB forked to digispeed today. Block reward needs adjusting.

Thanks for the info, the daily amount should stay the same though, updated.
Taking down DGB for now till I can find a reliable source that is not forked


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: Taxidermista on December 06, 2015, 10:46:40 AM
Skein coins (MYR and DGB) show in the frontpage list but you can't input your hashrate at the top. Why is that?


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on December 06, 2015, 04:50:21 PM
Skein coins (MYR and DGB) show in the frontpage list but you can't input your hashrate at the top. Why is that?

They were never enough skein coins to add a form for it.
At some point I have removed DGB and MYR skein from the main list, but someone asked for them to be returned.
No one ever requested any skein coins and I would rather have one spot open just in case.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: Rw13enlib88 on December 07, 2015, 09:22:50 AM
Please include GUA (GuaranyCoin) in the list!
Thanks  8)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=900091.0
https://aikapool.com/gua/index.php?page=statistics&action=pool
https://bleutrade.com/exchange/GUA/BTC


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on December 07, 2015, 11:24:00 AM
Please include GUA (GuaranyCoin) in the list!
Thanks  8)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=900091.0
https://aikapool.com/gua/index.php?page=statistics&action=pool
https://bleutrade.com/exchange/GUA/BTC

Hey there. Currently I am not getting data from bluetrade, you will have to get this on a supported exchange first.
That is polo, bittrex, cryptsy, bter or ccex.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on December 07, 2015, 11:31:25 AM
Recently I have added 3 coins
DNotes - Scrypt http://www.whattomine.com/coins/146-note-scrypt
GameCredits - Scrypt http://www.whattomine.com/coins/147-gmc-scrypt
Monacoin - Lyra2REv2  http://www.whattomine.com/coins/148-mona-lyra2rev2

Also restored AMBER and DGB after planned hardfork.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: depboy on December 12, 2015, 07:56:43 AM
Please consider dropping cryptsy exchange rates wherever possible. The spread between cryptsy prices and other exchanges is a bit of a bad joke, because everyone is using whatever altcoin they can to get their coins out. It's a bit like using the mt gox btc rate just before they went pop, and it severely distorts any profitability calculations.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on December 12, 2015, 08:53:44 AM
Please consider dropping cryptsy exchange rates wherever possible. The spread between cryptsy prices and other exchanges is a bit of a bad joke, because everyone is using whatever altcoin they can to get their coins out. It's a bit like using the mt gox btc rate just before they went pop, and it severely distorts any profitability calculations.

Indeed I have noticed this, didnt connect the dots though with recent cryptsy problems.
The problem is that so many coins are *only* listed on cryptsy from supported exchanges.

Removing cryptsy would remove so many coins from the list.
I will try to add all missing exchanges today and see how it looks.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: depboy on December 12, 2015, 01:58:58 PM
Please consider dropping cryptsy exchange rates wherever possible. The spread between cryptsy prices and other exchanges is a bit of a bad joke, because everyone is using whatever altcoin they can to get their coins out. It's a bit like using the mt gox btc rate just before they went pop, and it severely distorts any profitability calculations.

Indeed I have noticed this, didnt connect the dots though with recent cryptsy problems.
The problem is that so many coins are *only* listed on cryptsy from supported exchanges.

Removing cryptsy would remove so many coins from the list.
I will try to add all missing exchanges today and see how it looks.

That's why I said wherever possible. To be honest though, any coins that only trade on cryptsy are of very limited interest for the average profit-seeking miner. If you can't subsequently move the btc that you trade them for.... :(


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on December 12, 2015, 07:42:59 PM
Please consider dropping cryptsy exchange rates wherever possible. The spread between cryptsy prices and other exchanges is a bit of a bad joke, because everyone is using whatever altcoin they can to get their coins out. It's a bit like using the mt gox btc rate just before they went pop, and it severely distorts any profitability calculations.

Indeed I have noticed this, didnt connect the dots though with recent cryptsy problems.
The problem is that so many coins are *only* listed on cryptsy from supported exchanges.

Removing cryptsy would remove so many coins from the list.
I will try to add all missing exchanges today and see how it looks.

That's why I said wherever possible. To be honest though, any coins that only trade on cryptsy are of very limited interest for the average profit-seeking miner. If you can't subsequently move the btc that you trade them for.... :(

Has this already escalated to all btc withdrawals?
I have never had problems with withdrawals there, both BTC or altcoin.

Anyway about WTM solution.
I wanted to expose exchanges filtering, turns out it wont be as easy as I have expected.
Need to redo some part of the coding that handles rates caching to be done on the fly.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: Taxidermista on December 14, 2015, 11:58:24 AM
Skein coins (MYR and DGB) show in the frontpage list but you can't input your hashrate at the top. Why is that?

They were never enough skein coins to add a form for it.
At some point I have removed DGB and MYR skein from the main list, but someone asked for them to be returned.
No one ever requested any skein coins and I would rather have one spot open just in case.

Thank you. One question: What average hashrate do you take into account for a 280x card mining skein?


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on December 14, 2015, 02:00:25 PM
Skein coins (MYR and DGB) show in the frontpage list but you can't input your hashrate at the top. Why is that?

They were never enough skein coins to add a form for it.
At some point I have removed DGB and MYR skein from the main list, but someone asked for them to be returned.
No one ever requested any skein coins and I would rather have one spot open just in case.

Thank you. One question: What average hashrate do you take into account for a 280x card mining skein?

You are welcome :)
I use a 270 multiplier. So for a 280x default of 730khash we have 197.1Mhash
I must admit I havent checked it in a while, but afaik there were no skein mining improvements?

I want to expose including Skein coins option, after I am done with exchanges filtering.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on December 15, 2015, 10:21:13 PM
You can now filter exchanges out.
Simply deselect the ones you dont want and recalculate.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: coinflow on December 15, 2015, 10:59:31 PM
You can now filter exchanges out.
Simply deselect the ones you dont want and recalculate.

Nice. But you forgot Bleutrade. Would be really great to have it monitored also. Thanks.

Edit:
I'd send you some Mooncoins as a little incentive ...
Just drop me your MOON-address.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on December 16, 2015, 12:52:01 AM
You can now filter exchanges out.
Simply deselect the ones you dont want and recalculate.

Nice. But you forgot Bleutrade. Would be really great to have it monitored also. Thanks.

Edit:
I'd send you some Mooncoins as a little incentive ...
Just drop me your MOON-address.

Yep Bleutrade is next on my list of exchanges. Updated the sig.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: l8nit3 on December 16, 2015, 01:26:11 AM
Looks really well built. :) I think I'll be switching over to your site for my research now, instead of some of the others I have been using up untill now.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: coinflow on December 18, 2015, 07:54:20 AM
You can now filter exchanges out.
Simply deselect the ones you dont want and recalculate.

Nice. But you forgot Bleutrade. Would be really great to have it monitored also. Thanks.

Edit:
I'd send you some Mooncoins as a little incentive ...
Just drop me your MOON-address.

Yep Bleutrade is next on my list of exchanges. Updated the sig.

On a smaller screen the Mooncoin-address in your signature is not viewable, because it is in the next (fourth) line.
Nevertheless I have just sent some MOON. Thanks for your website.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on December 25, 2015, 05:43:57 PM
Thank you both :)

Added bleutrade exchange filtering.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: coinflow on January 17, 2016, 02:23:45 PM
Thank you both :)

Added bleutrade exchange filtering.

Cool, thank you. Could you remove Cryptsy (temporarily) from the initial selection, as they have halted all activity atm? http://blog.cryptsy.com
And maybe add Cryptopia? https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Exchange


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on January 17, 2016, 05:45:30 PM
Thank you both :)

Added bleutrade exchange filtering.

Cool, thank you. Could you remove Cryptsy (temporarily) from the initial selection, as they have halted all activity atm? http://blog.cryptsy.com
And maybe add Cryptopia? https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Exchange

I have already removed it yesterday ;)
Yeah I plan to add cryptopia and yobit  in the nearest future.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: coinflow on January 17, 2016, 07:23:00 PM
Thank you both :)

Added bleutrade exchange filtering.

Cool, thank you. Could you remove Cryptsy (temporarily) from the initial selection, as they have halted all activity atm? http://blog.cryptsy.com
And maybe add Cryptopia? https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Exchange

I have already removed it yesterday ;)
Yeah I plan to add cryptopia and yobit  in the nearest future.

Good.
Are you planning to add some more scrypt-coins, too?


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on January 17, 2016, 07:48:37 PM
Honestly would prefer to add more non-scrypt coins, but wont block any scrypt ones.

I think now I have every mineable coin in TOP20 from coinmarketcap.
Next step would be to get TOP40


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: coinflow on January 21, 2016, 03:41:20 PM
Honestly would prefer to add more non-scrypt coins, but wont block any scrypt ones.

I think now I have every mineable coin in TOP20 from coinmarketcap.
Next step would be to get TOP40

Sounds good.
Maybe this page can also inspire you, which ones to choose: https://hash-to-coins.com


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on January 26, 2016, 08:34:24 AM
Updated neoscrypt adapt values for 750ti.
Now hashing at around 215kh/s per card.

New miners available here
https://github.com/djm34/ccminer-sp-neoscrypt/releases

No difference for me between nosync and regular versions.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: Beave162 on January 26, 2016, 09:10:22 AM
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. whattomine is by far the best mining profitability site in existence.

Thank you, fredeq


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on January 26, 2016, 01:06:04 PM
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. whattomine is by far the best mining profitability site in existence.

Thank you, fredeq

Thanks again Beave :D

There is also improved neoscrypt performance for AMD cards by ghostlander.
Will wait till he releases v7 kernel though, before making changes on the site.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=712650.0


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on January 29, 2016, 10:04:16 PM
Reactivated Vanillacoin VNL with Blake(vnl) algo.

Miners for AMD/CPU/Boards
http://vanillacoin.net/downloads/blake256-mining.zip

Miner for nVidia
https://talk.vanillacoin.net/topic/311/blake256-8-round-normal-hashing-standard-tools/38


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on January 30, 2016, 05:54:56 PM
You can now filter exchange prices by two new exchanges:
Cryptopia
https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Exchange
YoBit
https://yobit.net/en/market/


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: miningpoolhub on February 16, 2016, 05:03:03 AM
You've done a great work.
I have one suggestion and one question.

- Suggestion
Maybe it would be better listing available mining pool for coins. (Well I'm running a mining pool too  :))

- Question
How did you gather algorithm hash factor for each GPU?


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on February 16, 2016, 12:01:32 PM
You've done a great work.
I have one suggestion and one question.

- Suggestion
Maybe it would be better listing available mining pool for coins. (Well I'm running a mining pool too  :))

- Question
How did you gather algorithm hash factor for each GPU?

Thanks ;)

- I have thought about it, but came to the conclusion that keeping the list up to date would take a lot of time.
While you, suprnova, coinmine and aika (anything else online with multi-coin?) would probably update me, I am sure other smaller operators wont.
Still open to suggestions though ;)

- I own both 750ti and 280x cards and run the miners myself on all of the algos to report hashes.
I may not have the latest public kernel results, but I think its pretty accurate.
Noticed something odd?


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: miningpoolhub on February 17, 2016, 04:47:39 AM
You've done a great work.
I have one suggestion and one question.

- Suggestion
Maybe it would be better listing available mining pool for coins. (Well I'm running a mining pool too  :))

- Question
How did you gather algorithm hash factor for each GPU?

Thanks ;)

- I have thought about it, but came to the conclusion that keeping the list up to date would take a lot of time.
While you, suprnova, coinmine and aika (anything else online with multi-coin?) would probably update me, I am sure other smaller operators wont.
Still open to suggestions though ;)

- I own both 750ti and 280x cards and run the miners myself on all of the algos to report hashes.
I may not have the latest public kernel results, but I think its pretty accurate.
Noticed something odd?


Maybe link exchange would be better as it would not need updates.

I tested my gpu and referenced factor from cryptomining-blog.com too.
There are some differences (of course). Not odd but I was just curious how you gathered.
May I reference these hash factors also?


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on February 17, 2016, 10:11:43 AM
@miningpoolhub What exactly do you mean by link exchange?
Pools somehow linking to WTM? Where could that be placed in mpos ui?

Feel free to reference anything you need :)
You can also report odd results, so I could retest with newest miners.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: miningpoolhub on February 17, 2016, 12:19:21 PM
@miningpoolhub What exactly do you mean by link exchange?
Pools somehow linking to WTM? Where could that be placed in mpos ui?

Feel free to reference anything you need :)
You can also report odd results, so I could retest with newest miners.

Well something like nicehash, miningrigrentals banner image shown on miningpoolhub.com main page.
Or maybe some text links like on http://cryptomining-blog.com/  "Links" tab.


Here are some factors on our pool.

        "algoNormalizerNvidia": {
            "scrypt": 1,
            "scrypt-n": 0.5,
            "keccak": 793,
            "groestl": 39,
            "groestlmyriad": 38,
            "jha": 21,
            "x11": 15.43,
            "x13": 12.25,
            "x15": 10.77,
            "nist5": 50.98,
            "sha256": 0,
            "neoscrypt": 0.48,
            "qubit": 24.02,
            "quark": 25.75,
            "skein": 362,
            "scrypt-n-execoin": 0.3,
            "lyra2re2": 21.1,
            "blakevanilla": 3770
        },

This data was gathered, tested, referenced, and calculated average from so many sites so I don't remember exactly.
Maybe I have to reset all data and retest whole.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on February 18, 2016, 06:03:49 PM
@miningpoolhub

If I was to list the available pools, I would do it on coin page only.
Cant see a good place for it at the index for each coin.

Here are my multipliers:
factorsNV = {
    "#factor_lrev2_hr": 17.1,
    "#factor_cha17_hr": 0.0003,
    "#factor_cha14_hr": 0.013,
    "#factor_x11_hr": 12.0,
    "#factor_x13_hr": 9.4,
    "#factor_cn_hr": 0.00085,
    "#factor_ns_hr": 0.8113,
    "#factor_keccak_hr": 570,
    "#factor_gro_hr": 14,      
    "#factor_bkv_hr": 3770,
    "#factor_qb_hr": 19,
    "#factor_qk_hr": 23.5
  }

Those are picked for 750ti though.
Looks like I need to do some updating :D


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: miningpoolhub on February 23, 2016, 03:45:26 AM
@miningpoolhub

If I was to list the available pools, I would do it on coin page only.
Cant see a good place for it at the index for each coin.

Here are my multipliers:
factorsNV = {
    "#factor_lrev2_hr": 17.1,
    "#factor_cha17_hr": 0.0003,
    "#factor_cha14_hr": 0.013,
    "#factor_x11_hr": 12.0,
    "#factor_x13_hr": 9.4,
    "#factor_cn_hr": 0.00085,
    "#factor_ns_hr": 0.8113,
    "#factor_keccak_hr": 570,
    "#factor_gro_hr": 14,      
    "#factor_bkv_hr": 3770,
    "#factor_qb_hr": 19,
    "#factor_qk_hr": 23.5
  }

Those are picked for 750ti though.
Looks like I need to do some updating :D


Yeah I understand about the link exchange.
I think I need to update too. Will check your results often too.

Thanks.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on March 05, 2016, 08:02:14 PM
Removed skein coins from the main list.
Added basic json data for coin pages - returns per day mining calculations.

For example:
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/1.json?hr=1155.0&br=25.0&d=159173130679.715&p=590.0&fee=0.0&cost=0.1&hcost=0.0&btc=405.801


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on March 10, 2016, 08:48:01 PM
Ethereum single calculator available:
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/151-eth-ethash

Within a week planning to drop scrypt from GPU section, set Dash as base, then add Ethereum.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: depboy on March 16, 2016, 05:12:42 PM
Removed skein coins from the main list.
Added basic json data for coin pages - returns per day mining calculations.

For example:
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/1.json?hr=1155.0&br=25.0&d=159173130679.715&p=590.0&fee=0.0&cost=0.1&hcost=0.0&btc=405.801

 :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(

I was using that skein data for profit switching between DGB & MYR.  I wonder if there is a way to switch to using the json data on the coin pages instead?  Is there a way to combine the json data for more than one coin on the same page?

eg http://www.whattomine.com/coins/[INSERT COIN NUMBERS].json


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on March 16, 2016, 08:43:28 PM
Removed skein coins from the main list.
Added basic json data for coin pages - returns per day mining calculations.

For example:
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/1.json?hr=1155.0&br=25.0&d=159173130679.715&p=590.0&fee=0.0&cost=0.1&hcost=0.0&btc=405.801

 :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(

I was using that skein data for profit switching between DGB & MYR.  I wonder if there is a way to switch to using the json data on the coin pages instead?  Is there a way to combine the json data for more than one coin on the same page?

eg http://www.whattomine.com/coins/[INSERT COIN NUMBERS].json

The data was too hardcoded imo, causing confusion as well.

There is no such logic at the moment, but nothing stops you from doing 2 more json calls to both DGB and MYR skein.
I think its better, cause you can input your real hashrate for that algo this way.

However I can see that there is no btc_revenue key returned for index, let me add that, so you can calculate profitability yourself for Skein. (Done)


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on March 20, 2016, 09:25:13 PM
Dropped Scrypt coins from GPU section, which now compares all coins to Dashcoin.
Added Ethereum to main list with nicehash.

750ti values for ethereum are really small on windows7 - around 0,5 Mhash.
There are reports of people running 5Mhash per 750ti on linux, but I havent confirmed that.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: depboy on March 21, 2016, 02:13:03 PM
Removed skein coins from the main list.
Added basic json data for coin pages - returns per day mining calculations.

For example:
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/1.json?hr=1155.0&br=25.0&d=159173130679.715&p=590.0&fee=0.0&cost=0.1&hcost=0.0&btc=405.801

 :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(

I was using that skein data for profit switching between DGB & MYR.  I wonder if there is a way to switch to using the json data on the coin pages instead?  Is there a way to combine the json data for more than one coin on the same page?

eg http://www.whattomine.com/coins/[INSERT COIN NUMBERS].json

The data was too hardcoded imo, causing confusion as well.

There is no such logic at the moment, but nothing stops you from doing 2 more json calls to both DGB and MYR skein.
I think its better, cause you can input your real hashrate for that algo this way.

However I can see that there is no btc_revenue key returned for index, let me add that, so you can calculate profitability yourself for Skein. (Done)

Unfortunately the data is not quite the same either.  On the main page, there's "profitability" and "profitability24".  This has been replaced by "profit" on the pages for individual coins, which equates to the 24 hour average.  Since it's switching based on current difficulty that I'm looking to do, a 24 hour average is of no use to me.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on March 21, 2016, 03:45:58 PM
Removed skein coins from the main list.
Added basic json data for coin pages - returns per day mining calculations.

For example:
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/1.json?hr=1155.0&br=25.0&d=159173130679.715&p=590.0&fee=0.0&cost=0.1&hcost=0.0&btc=405.801

 :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(

I was using that skein data for profit switching between DGB & MYR.  I wonder if there is a way to switch to using the json data on the coin pages instead?  Is there a way to combine the json data for more than one coin on the same page?

eg http://www.whattomine.com/coins/[INSERT COIN NUMBERS].json

The data was too hardcoded imo, causing confusion as well.

There is no such logic at the moment, but nothing stops you from doing 2 more json calls to both DGB and MYR skein.
I think its better, cause you can input your real hashrate for that algo this way.

However I can see that there is no btc_revenue key returned for index, let me add that, so you can calculate profitability yourself for Skein. (Done)

Unfortunately the data is not quite the same either.  On the main page, there's "profitability" and "profitability24".  This has been replaced by "profit" on the pages for individual coins, which equates to the 24 hour average.  Since it's switching based on current difficulty that I'm looking to do, a 24 hour average is of no use to me.

Profitability is just `coin_revenue / dash_revenue`, same for profitability24: `coin_revenue24 / dash_revenue24`.

So all you have to do is call for example: http://www.whattomine.com/coins/114.json and save value of `difficulty`.
Then calculate revenue with that difficulty: http://www.whattomine.com/coins/114.json?d=difficulty&hr=hash_rate and save `btc_revenue` as `dgb_skein_revenue`. (remember to push hash_rate in correct units, Mhash in this case)

Now either repeat it for dashcoin: http://www.whattomine.com/coins/34.json, or get it directly from gpu json http://www.whattomine.com/coins.json under dash and `btc_revenue` saving as `dash_revenue`.

To receive final profitability to compare with other coins:
`dgb_skein_profitability = (dgb_skein_revenue / dash_revenue) * 100%`


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on March 25, 2016, 11:37:19 PM
Updated Groestl hashrates for 280x and 750ti:
280x 23,8Mhash
750ti 8,3Mhash
Updated Myr-Groestl as well with about 1,5x Groestl multiplier.

Added Decred(DCR) coin to single calculators:
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/152-dcr-blake-256


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on March 26, 2016, 02:45:35 PM
Updated all adapt multipliers for 280x.
Default values now start with 12Mhash and 250W of X11.

For 750ti adapt, you can input those X11 values:
3,25Mhash
75W


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: miningpoolhub on March 27, 2016, 02:12:24 AM
Great works!

1. Have you tried 750ti with CUDA supported ethminer from genoil?
https://github.com/Genoil/cpp-ethereum/tree/master/releases
Maybe this would give better accurate result.

2. How about adding X15, Skein algo too?

3. I see different results when switching 280x -> 750ti -> 280x
X11 hash is same as before but other algo numbers change. for example, x13 was 4000 kh/s at website visit but when I switch to 750ti, and back to 280x, I see 2240 kh/s
Some frontend js seems conflicted.

Thanks.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: miningpoolhub on March 27, 2016, 05:27:07 AM
Updated all adapt multipliers for 280x.
Default values now start with 12Mhash and 250W of X11.

For 750ti adapt, you can input those X11 values:
3,25Mhash
75W

Is x11 12Mhash is fixed number to normalize each algo?

What is the real hashrate for 280x and 750ti?
I would prefer real x11 hashrate for each hardware since I have to input normalized hashrate for each algo to compare. It's quite difficult.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on March 27, 2016, 07:03:27 AM
@miningpoolhub

1.Those results are with genoil miner. Currently there is no way to get better results on 750ti and windows. (Some users report 5Mhash on linux)

2. I cant see a reason for x15 - no worthwhile coins that I know of (almost the same for x13)
Skein coins are added on the site, just not exposed on the main list. Can always be compared separately.

3. Sounds like you had a different (not default) value stored in a cookie for X11. Also possible you tried this when I have updated the multipliers ;)
Value for X11 is not supposed to change - the buttons are only for adapating the rates and powers from X11 values.

4. 12Mhash is a real value for a single 280x, so is 250W power that goes with it.
For 750ti, as written in latest post, those values are: 3,25Mhash / 75W


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: miningpoolhub on March 27, 2016, 03:39:14 PM

3. Sounds like you had a different (not default) value stored in a cookie for X11. Also possible you tried this when I have updated the multipliers ;)
Value for X11 is not supposed to change - the buttons are only for adapating the rates and powers from X11 values.

It's working well now.

4. 12Mhash is a real value for a single 280x, so is 250W power that goes with it.
For 750ti, as written in latest post, those values are: 3,25Mhash / 75W

Ah... My bad. I misunderstood it.


What miner and catalyst version did you use to get 12Mhash from 280x? I'm quite surprised that my 280x can perform upto 12Mh.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on March 27, 2016, 05:39:22 PM
Ah... My bad. I misunderstood it.

What miner and catalyst version did you use to get 12Mhash from 280x? I'm quite surprised that my 280x can perform upto 12Mh.

Yeah its pretty selective. As far as I know, it can only be done with 5.1.0 optimized sgminer.
You can get both miner and bin from latest nicehash miner package.
This miner does not seem to work with some cards (For example 380, maybe all gcn 1.2?).
I am using 15.7.1 catalyst, the exact version should not matter much, as we are using a precompiled bin.

Here is my short post from sgminer about it: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=632503.msg14323184#msg14323184


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on April 10, 2016, 07:14:03 PM
Added Darknet (http://www.whattomine.com/coins/153-dnet-quark) to the gpu section. (Quark)
Replaced Keccak with Blake (14r) - You can now compare Decred (http://www.whattomine.com/coins/152-dcr-blake-14r) on the gpu section.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on May 10, 2016, 06:20:18 PM
I have added support for multiple datasets.
A feature that will come handy for people with multiple rigs, or rigs with different card types.

To use it simply type a name of the new dataset and click "Add" - this will load defaults into new set.
After that you can customize this set and save all the params with "Calculate".

To browse between sets just click on the tab with name at the top.
Sets can also be removed by clicking on "X".


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on May 14, 2016, 10:49:59 AM
Added SHIFT coin.
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/156-shift-ethash


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on June 01, 2016, 07:05:34 AM
Updated default Asic values to match Antminer S7.
This will change soon though, cause S9 already got announced.

http://cryptomining-blog.com/7893-bitmain-just-announced-the-14-ths-antminer-s9-asic-bitcoin-miner/


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on June 21, 2016, 01:28:44 PM
Server back online after provider failure.

Also recently updated Lyra2rev2 multipliers for both 280x and 750ti.
Reduced 280x multiplier for ethereum to 19Mh/s.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on July 02, 2016, 07:33:56 PM
Added calculator for merged Ethereum + Decred mining (Claymore miner)
http://www.whattomine.com/merged_coins/1-eth-dcr

Link is also visible on list of coins http://www.whattomine.com/calculators


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on July 13, 2016, 08:14:05 AM
Added
Goldblocks(GB) http://www.whattomine.com/coins/160-gb-x11
Sia(SC) http://www.whattomine.com/coins/161-sc-blake-2b


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on July 24, 2016, 07:00:08 PM
Added Pre-fork Ethereum ETC calculator.
Price and difficulty is all over the place, research first.
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/162-etc-ethash


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: sigwo on July 28, 2016, 01:35:49 PM
Excellent service. I use this multiple times a day to ensure my mining rigs are mining the correct coins at the correct time. Thank you!


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: WhyMe on August 02, 2016, 05:52:09 PM
Hi,

is https://www.whattomine.com/coins.json parametrable like each json coin ? ( like https://www.whattomine.com/coins/161.json?hr=5000 )
Something like this : https://www.whattomine.com/coins.json?hr_x11=50000&hr_eth=100000

Thanks !


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on August 02, 2016, 06:08:54 PM
Hi,

is https://www.whattomine.com/coins.json parametrable like each json coin ? ( like https://www.whattomine.com/coins/161.json?hr=5000 )
Something like this : https://www.whattomine.com/coins.json?hr_x11=50000&hr_eth=100000

Thanks !

Heya,

It is, you can press calculate or defaults to see what kind of params are used.
For example this would return only X11 coins:
http://tinyurl.com/WTM-X11

Keep in mind that X11 hashrate is required to be passed at the moment, but you can filter them out by removing `x11f=true`


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: JasonXG on August 17, 2016, 01:09:32 AM
Its a very good site. I just wish they would add some more hardware not just the 2 I know you can custom edit it but its much easier if it had more GPUs to pick. Preferable an auto detect is best. They also really need to add new coins. Other then those two things they run a great and u helpful site.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: WarrEagle on August 17, 2016, 12:07:06 PM
Its a very good site. I just wish they would add some more hardware not just the 2 I know you can custom edit it but its much easier if it had more GPUs to pick. Preferable an auto detect is best. They also really need to add new coins. Other then those two things they run a great and u helpful site.

That is a good idea, but probably too much effort to grab. I like the select a card and compare feature you mentioned. Might help someone decide what card they want.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on August 17, 2016, 05:12:46 PM
Its a very good site. I just wish they would add some more hardware not just the 2 I know you can custom edit it but its much easier if it had more GPUs to pick. Preferable an auto detect is best. They also really need to add new coins. Other then those two things they run a great and u helpful site.

Thanks :)

Originally the multipliers were almost the same for all AMD cards, thats why button working as an `adapt` feature was added.
The idea was that you can input a scrypt hashrate of your AMD rig (and everyone knew scrypt values of their rigs back in the day) and see how would it perform in other algorithms.
This was later moved to work from X11 rates and was still a nice thing.

Now I admit it has lost its value and should be changed to multiple card types + quantities selector.
Especially that X11 and alike are no longer in the interest of the miners.
Long term plan is to provide values for 380, 470, 480, 970, 1060 and 1070.

I am curious though, what new coins would you like to see?
Always waiting for new coins suggestions at http://www.whattomine.com/contacts/new
Btw lbry is not added to GPU section yet, but you can calculate it here http://www.whattomine.com/coins/164-lbc-lbry


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: sammy007 on August 17, 2016, 10:32:42 PM
Hi, feel free to add Bitcedi, also is CryptoNight https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1474935.0


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: Daffadile on August 22, 2016, 11:42:44 PM
How do I add commands in the .json file ? I want to add the command that allows me to use 100% gpu
the GPU sync and the GPU max allowcation.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on August 24, 2016, 10:52:37 PM
How do I add commands in the .json file ? I want to add the command that allows me to use 100% gpu
the GPU sync and the GPU max allowcation.

Not sure how those commands are connected with .json file, maybe you meant .bat file?
setx GPU_FORCE_64BIT_PTR 0
setx GPU_MAX_HEAP_SIZE 100
setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1
setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100
setx GPU_SINGLE_ALLOC_PERCENT 100


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on September 07, 2016, 11:08:54 PM
Updated 750ti multipliers for cryptonight from latest nicehash miner beta.

Added new dual-mining of LBRY for claymore miner.
http://www.whattomine.com/merged_coins/7-eth-lbc
http://www.whattomine.com/merged_coins/8-etc-lbc
http://www.whattomine.com/merged_coins/9-exp-lbc


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: miningpoolhub on October 02, 2016, 11:52:08 AM
Seems like the bottom line text is not updated
Currently I see like below.

Last update at 2016-07-09 16:55:53 UTC


Maybe some bug?


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on October 02, 2016, 05:43:44 PM
Seems like the bottom line text is not updated
Currently I see like below.

Last update at 2016-07-09 16:55:53 UTC


Maybe some bug?

Indeed a small bug on this one, reading timestamp from wrong object, thanks ;)

BTW I have updated some multipliers for 280x and now you can define a number of cards.
380 values coming soon, then something new from nvidia.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: miningpoolhub on October 03, 2016, 01:44:17 AM
Seems like the bottom line text is not updated
Currently I see like below.

Last update at 2016-07-09 16:55:53 UTC


Maybe some bug?

Indeed a small bug on this one, reading timestamp from wrong object, thanks ;)

BTW I have updated some multipliers for 280x and now you can define a number of cards.
380 values coming soon, then something new from nvidia.

Great works!


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: JasonXG on October 03, 2016, 05:21:06 PM
Its a very good site. I just wish they would add some more hardware not just the 2 I know you can custom edit it but its much easier if it had more GPUs to pick. Preferable an auto detect is best. They also really need to add new coins. Other then those two things they run a great and u helpful site.

That is a good idea, but probably too much effort to grab. I like the select a card and compare feature you mentioned. Might help someone decide what card they want.

They would have to collect data or get data about the GPUs from wiki and compare the hash rates with other uses of similar setups and then add them for each card. Even if they just go to wiki and take those ita better then nothing. Not too much work.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on October 03, 2016, 05:42:32 PM
Its a very good site. I just wish they would add some more hardware not just the 2 I know you can custom edit it but its much easier if it had more GPUs to pick. Preferable an auto detect is best. They also really need to add new coins. Other then those two things they run a great and u helpful site.

That is a good idea, but probably too much effort to grab. I like the select a card and compare feature you mentioned. Might help someone decide what card they want.

They would have to collect data or get data about the GPUs from wiki and compare the hash rates with other uses of similar setups and then add them for each card. Even if they just go to wiki and take those ita better then nothing. Not too much work.

Are you speaking about something more complex than a simple "Input hashrates for X number of Y card" ?
More GPUs will be coming, but I prefer to test them myself. GPU lists are full of weird hashrate reports from private miners or missing information about a serious OC on the card.
Values on whattomine are for stock settings, without any bios mods, with public miner.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: LucD88 on October 07, 2016, 11:52:27 AM
@fredeq
What are the exact terms to get a coin listed? Would be great to see CrownCoin (CRW) added: http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/crowncoin/

If you could PM me the details would be great, thanks in advance! :)


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on October 07, 2016, 12:04:31 PM
@fredeq
What are the exact terms to get a coin listed? Would be great to see CrownCoin (CRW) added: http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/crowncoin/

If you could PM me the details would be great, thanks in advance! :)

Hey, I have already received a request for your coin from multiple sources ;)
No terms, just common sense.
As I have already explained to someone your coin doesnt really fit the site from mining perspective, as it is merged mined.
But no problem to add it if you just want to be there :)


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: LucD88 on October 07, 2016, 01:20:42 PM
Hey, I have already received a request for your coin from multiple sources ;)
No terms, just common sense.
As I have already explained to someone your coin doesnt really fit the site from mining perspective, as it is merged mined.
But no problem to add it if you just want to be there :)
Thank you for the quick reply.

Would be great if you could add us, but how do you say it doesn't fit the site? I thought merge mining is nothing other than mining two coins at the same time, without costing extra power or spreading hashing power. So basically you mine one coin, and get a little extra because BTC is mined at the same time.

Correct me if I'm wrong though! :)


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on October 07, 2016, 06:12:35 PM
Hey, I have already received a request for your coin from multiple sources ;)
No terms, just common sense.
As I have already explained to someone your coin doesnt really fit the site from mining perspective, as it is merged mined.
But no problem to add it if you just want to be there :)
Thank you for the quick reply.

Would be great if you could add us, but how do you say it doesn't fit the site? I thought merge mining is nothing other than mining two coins at the same time, without costing extra power or spreading hashing power. So basically you mine one coin, and get a little extra because BTC is mined at the same time.

Correct me if I'm wrong though! :)

Well I dont think anyone is checking my site to see what he could merge mine.
Bitcoin is only mined on pools and pools decide what will be merged mined, not user.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: stonehedge on October 08, 2016, 09:31:49 PM
Hey, I have already received a request for your coin from multiple sources ;)
No terms, just common sense.
As I have already explained to someone your coin doesnt really fit the site from mining perspective, as it is merged mined.
But no problem to add it if you just want to be there :)
Thank you for the quick reply.

Would be great if you could add us, but how do you say it doesn't fit the site? I thought merge mining is nothing other than mining two coins at the same time, without costing extra power or spreading hashing power. So basically you mine one coin, and get a little extra because BTC is mined at the same time.

Correct me if I'm wrong though! :)

Well I dont think anyone is checking my site to see what he could merge mine.
Bitcoin is only mined on pools and pools decide what will be merged mined, not user.

Pools still need to get their info from somewhere.

I understand what you are saying but I'd love it if you could list Crowncoin.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on October 09, 2016, 08:21:19 AM
Pools still need to get their info from somewhere.

I understand what you are saying but I'd love it if you could list Crowncoin.

Sure thing. Will move to main list once I pull enough stats.
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/165-crw-sha-256


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: LucD88 on October 09, 2016, 03:11:06 PM
Sure thing. Will move to main list once I pull enough stats.
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/165-crw-sha-256
Great, thank you! Currently it says Active(not listed), but that's what you meant I suppose? :)


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on October 09, 2016, 03:12:09 PM
Sure thing. Will move to main list once I pull enough stats.
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/165-crw-sha-256
Great, thank you! Currently it says Active(not listed), but that's what you meant I suppose? :)

Indeed. Need to give it 24h.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: LucD88 on October 12, 2016, 11:47:44 AM
Indeed. Need to give it 24h.
24h have long passed, but it's still not listed. Could you please list it? :)


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on October 12, 2016, 12:18:21 PM
Indeed. Need to give it 24h.
24h have long passed, but it's still not listed. Could you please list it? :)

Done


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on October 23, 2016, 09:07:54 PM
Added adapt values for GTX1070
Lowered Ethash 280x hashrate to 16Mh/s


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on October 28, 2016, 10:17:39 PM
Solo calc for ZEC Zcash is ready
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/166

Results should be ok-ish. Remember that price will be going down fast.
Will review the formula once we hit the static reward.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: Beave162 on October 28, 2016, 10:34:46 PM
whattomine.com already on top of zcash! :)


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: Redrose on October 29, 2016, 10:05:41 PM
I like the addition of the pre-defined 1070 patern very much ;). Could you also please add ZCoin (XZC) to your individual calculators ?


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on October 30, 2016, 02:47:05 AM
I like the addition of the pre-defined 1070 patern very much ;). Could you also please add ZCoin (XZC) to your individual calculators ?

As far as I can tell ZCoin is CPU only?
Last time I checked it had no gpu miners available, so cant really add it to WTM.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: Redrose on October 30, 2016, 08:42:36 AM
I like the addition of the pre-defined 1070 patern very much ;). Could you also please add ZCoin (XZC) to your individual calculators ?

As far as I can tell ZCoin is CPU only?
Last time I checked it had no gpu miners available, so cant really add it to WTM.

Yeah, only CPU, and why I love it. What make it impossible to add to it ? Mining follows the same process, no ?


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on October 30, 2016, 10:06:14 AM
I like the addition of the pre-defined 1070 patern very much ;). Could you also please add ZCoin (XZC) to your individual calculators ?

As far as I can tell ZCoin is CPU only?
Last time I checked it had no gpu miners available, so cant really add it to WTM.

Yeah, only CPU, and why I love it. What make it impossible to add to it ? Mining follows the same process, no ?

I could add it as solo calc, but it wont make it to the compare list.
Please make a coin request via site contact with required data listed there.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on October 30, 2016, 09:42:29 PM
Quark and qubit moved to asic section.
Zcash with Nicehash-Equihash added to GPU section.



Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: Miasma on November 01, 2016, 10:51:49 AM
Quark and qubit moved to asic section.
Zcash with Nicehash-Equihash added to GPU section.

ZEC mines both cpu & gpu simultaneously. Can you combine them plz???

Why is the Revenue for ZEC double Estimated Reward even if Power, Cost, Pool Fee & Equipment cost are zero???


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on November 01, 2016, 12:25:20 PM
Quark and qubit moved to asic section.
Zcash with Nicehash-Equihash added to GPU section.

ZEC mines both cpu & gpu simultaneously. Can you combine them plz???

Why is the Revenue for ZEC double Estimated Reward even if Power, Cost, Pool Fee & Equipment cost are zero???

What do you want to combine? Not sure what you mean.

Not sure what you find wrong about revenue as well, would need a specific link.
The revenue is in BTC btw, rewards are in ZEC, maybe thats the source of confusion?


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: Miasma on November 01, 2016, 01:34:44 PM
Quark and qubit moved to asic section.
Zcash with Nicehash-Equihash added to GPU section.

ZEC mines both cpu & gpu simultaneously. Can you combine them plz???

Why is the Revenue for ZEC double Estimated Reward even if Power, Cost, Pool Fee & Equipment cost are zero???

What do you want to combine? Not sure what you mean.

Not sure what you find wrong about revenue as well, would need a specific link.
The revenue is in BTC btw, rewards are in ZEC, maybe thats the source of confusion?

Combine CPU & GPU mining for ZEC.
That explains it, page doesn't say what units are being used. Thx.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on November 01, 2016, 09:35:35 PM
@Miasma
My question is still the same, not sure what do you want to combine...
Just input the hashrates you want. I am not adding any CPU values to card picker for sure.

Updated Zcash Equihash values for 280x and 380.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: BigMcRat on November 03, 2016, 07:32:25 AM
is it possible to intregate ZEC coin in JSON, that would be fantastic  :)


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on November 03, 2016, 07:56:26 AM
is it possible to intregate ZEC coin in JSON, that would be fantastic  :)

All that is visible in UI can be viewed in JSON
http://www.whattomine.com/coins.json
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/166.json


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on November 04, 2016, 08:06:24 PM
Updated hashrates for Zcash and all cards.
Taken from newest claymore and nicehash miners.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: sigwo on November 05, 2016, 01:47:33 AM
Nice! Great site. Keep up the great work!


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: Delphix on November 06, 2016, 05:48:18 AM
Does s/o have precalculated mining speed data for RX470/RX480 4GB/8GB?


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on November 06, 2016, 06:32:14 AM
Does s/o have precalculated mining speed data for RX470/RX480 4GB/8GB?


Not sure what do you mean by s/o, but 480 values will be added within a week.
Then probably 1060.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: Delphix on November 06, 2016, 09:29:26 AM
Does s/o have precalculated mining speed data for RX470/RX480 4GB/8GB?


Not sure what do you mean by s/o, but 480 values will be added within a week.
Then probably 1060.

s/o = someone.
Anyway nice info, thnx in advance. Waiting for 480!


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on November 09, 2016, 09:55:37 PM
Updated Zcash hashrates for 280x and 380.
Added Zclassic solo calc:
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/167-zcl-equihash


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: Tbone5660 on November 17, 2016, 11:38:01 PM
Could you add Bittrex exchange price for ZCL instead of C-Cex?


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: Rabinovitch on November 18, 2016, 06:51:49 AM
Please explain someone how should I consider 3rd column from right?


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on November 18, 2016, 08:41:45 PM
Please explain someone how should I consider 3rd column from right?

If you are talking about Rev. BTC and Rev. 24h - its your revenue in BTC.
First taken for current "estimated rewards", second one for 24h value of "estimated rewards".
Its just "rewards * coin_price_in_BTC"


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on November 22, 2016, 07:57:16 PM
All cards updated for latest ZEC miner values. This means latest nicehash 1.7.3.5 and claymore v7.
480 takes values from bios for ETH for easy switching and better power efficiency.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: miningpoolhub on November 24, 2016, 05:39:08 AM
All cards updated for latest ZEC miner values. This means latest nicehash 1.7.3.5 and claymore v7.
480 takes values from bios for ETH for easy switching and better power efficiency.

Great!


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on November 24, 2016, 10:15:09 PM
Small update to single calculators.
Some coin-specific fields will now be disabled by default for smooth recalc.

https://i.imgsafe.org/76636b7f7e.png


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: BigMcRat on November 27, 2016, 09:38:09 AM
is it possible to intregate ZEC coin in JSON, that would be fantastic  :)

All that is visible in UI can be viewed in JSON
http://www.whattomine.com/coins.json
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/166.json


noob question,

is there a coin calculator (API) for  "Nicehash-Equihash"?
Like this for ZEC "http://www.whattomine.com/coins/166.json"


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on November 27, 2016, 12:13:33 PM
is it possible to intregate ZEC coin in JSON, that would be fantastic  :)

All that is visible in UI can be viewed in JSON
http://www.whattomine.com/coins.json
http://www.whattomine.com/coins/166.json


noob question,

is there a coin calculator (API) for  "Nicehash-Equihash"?
Like this for ZEC "http://www.whattomine.com/coins/166.json"


I started working on it in the past, but later changed my mind.
Nicehash revenue calculation is just `hashrate * price`, there is nothing more to it, so adding a calc for this seems like an overkill ;)

Maybe showing the averages of last 3 and 7 days would be useful for some... will revisit this at some point.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: TR8888 on December 20, 2016, 07:48:10 PM
Stats are broken when selecting 1070...

Eth hr must be greater than 0
Eq hr must be greater than 0


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on December 20, 2016, 09:07:35 PM
Stats are broken when selecting 1070...

Eth hr must be greater than 0
Eq hr must be greater than 0

Hmm not sure how checking 1070 could insert those zeroes for you... Are you sure you use correct number of cards in the field next to it?
Btw I have added values for 470.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: TR8888 on December 29, 2016, 08:59:10 AM
Stats are broken when selecting 1070...

Eth hr must be greater than 0
Eq hr must be greater than 0

Hmm not sure how checking 1070 could insert those zeroes for you... Are you sure you use correct number of cards in the field next to it?
Btw I have added values for 470.

Yep I just changed 280x to 0 and 1070 to 1 and now it says..

''Eth hr must be greater than 0''

and defaults back to 3 x 280x, When I select 1 x 1070 and 0 x 280x, Before i press calculate I notice all the hashrates go to 0 for 1070 if that makes sense.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on December 29, 2016, 09:03:33 AM
Stats are broken when selecting 1070...

Eth hr must be greater than 0
Eq hr must be greater than 0

Hmm not sure how checking 1070 could insert those zeroes for you... Are you sure you use correct number of cards in the field next to it?
Btw I have added values for 470.

Yep I just changed 280x to 0 and 1070 to 1 and now it says..

''Eth hr must be greater than 0''

and defaults back to 3 x 280x, When I select 1 x 1070 and 0 x 280x, Before i press calculate I notice all the hashrates go to 0 for 1070 if that makes sense.

Beside inputting a number for a card type you also need to activate it by clicking on a name. This is how it should look for 1070:

https://i.imgsafe.org/4d0da2ec58.png


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: TR8888 on December 30, 2016, 09:01:39 AM
I see! That worked a treat, Thanks


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: clipto on January 07, 2017, 12:29:22 AM
Is it possible to fetch json data other than the default 280x data?

http://whattomine.com/coins/166.json



Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on January 07, 2017, 12:32:50 AM
Is it possible to fetch json data other than the default 280x data?

http://whattomine.com/coins/166.json



Sure. You can use params from browser url, just drop the utf.
For example http://whattomine.com/coins/166.json?hr=2000&p=660.0&fee=0.0&cost=0.1&hcost=0.0


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: clipto on January 07, 2017, 12:53:37 AM
Perfect, thanks!  ;D


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: clipto on January 07, 2017, 07:22:30 PM
Working command was:
=ImportJSON("http://whattomine.com/coins/166.json?hr=185&p=105.0&fee=0.0&cost=0.076&hcost=0.0")

A bit offtopic maybe, as I have some difficulties with Google docs.
Imported the json values in google spreadsheet, but how to do calculation with them?

http://i68.tinypic.com/2iu6npe.jpg

Whatever I do the BTC revenue value (R2), revenue value (S2), profit (U2), none of them can be used?
Setting them formatted as 'number' won't work either.
Running out of options here, anyone got any clue?


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on January 07, 2017, 08:04:41 PM
Working command was:
=ImportJSON("http://whattomine.com/coins/166.json?hr=185&p=105.0&fee=0.0&cost=0.076&hcost=0.0")

A bit offtopic maybe, as I have some difficulties with Google docs.
Imported the json values in google spreadsheet, but how to do calculation with them?

http://i68.tinypic.com/2iu6npe.jpg

Whatever I do the BTC revenue value (R2), revenue value (S2), profit (U2), none of them can be used?
Setting them formatted as 'number' won't work either.
Running out of options here, anyone got any clue?

Problem comes from the fact that spreadsheet does not recognize "." as a valid delimiter due to regional settings.
Change your regional settings under "File -> spreadsheet settings" to any country using decimal point:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_mark#Countries_using_Arabic_numerals_with_decimal_point


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: clipto on January 07, 2017, 08:27:48 PM
Sounds right, but still won't work  ???

http://i67.tinypic.com/168wxti.jpg

S10 is =SUM(S2,S4,S6,S8)

http://i65.tinypic.com/5x39ls.jpg


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on January 07, 2017, 08:40:03 PM
Works for me, maybe put all those fields back to auto?


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: clipto on January 07, 2017, 08:43:06 PM
requested access to your file, won't work setting them back to auto here.
I see, works in your file perfectly.
I'll create a whole new file, let's see if that fixes things.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: clipto on January 07, 2017, 08:50:31 PM
Well I'm clueless, won't work when I create a new file either.
I'll take your file and work everything back there, no clue what's going wrong in my file.
Thanks for helping out!!


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on January 07, 2017, 10:29:05 PM
Well I'm clueless, won't work when I create a new file either.
I'll take your file and work everything back there, no clue what's going wrong in my file.
Thanks for helping out!!

Hmm strange indeed.
You can share yours with me, curious whats wrong.
Cheers!


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: Forumz on January 07, 2017, 10:34:44 PM
Hello, API page for one currency (for example whattomine.com/coins/166.json) returns "estimated_rewards" and "btc_revenue" calculated for 24h interval. Is there way to get this calculated for current values on this page? This values are on page with all coins (whattomine.com/coins.json), there are both "estimated_rewards" and "estimated_rewards24" estimates. Also I try to use get-parameter "166.json?revenue=current" or "revenue=24h" but it not works there.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on January 07, 2017, 10:45:12 PM
Hello, API page for one currency (for example whattomine.com/coins/166.json) returns "estimated_rewards" and "btc_revenue" calculated for 24h interval. Is there way to get this calculated for current values on this page? This values are on page with all coins (whattomine.com/coins.json), there are both "estimated_rewards" and "estimated_rewards24" estimates. Also I try to use get-parameter "166.json?revenue=current" or "revenue=24h" but it not works there.

If you would like to calculate it for other set of values, then you just need to send them.
To check the param names you could enable all fields via UI and press calculate.
I guess you want to send in current_difficulty. You could also customize BTC price.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: clipto on January 15, 2017, 09:23:19 PM
Well I'm clueless, won't work when I create a new file either.
I'll take your file and work everything back there, no clue what's going wrong in my file.
Thanks for helping out!!

Hmm strange indeed.
You can share yours with me, curious whats wrong.
Cheers!

Keep struggling with this, can you PM your emailaddress to me, I'll share a document where I can't get functions on the imported JSON values working.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on January 16, 2017, 01:22:28 AM
I have reduced ETH and ETC block reward to 4.85 due to uncles lowered reward.
Followed number presented by vitalik here https://blog.ethereum.org/2016/10/31/uncle-rate-transaction-fee-analysis/
Will try to find the same for EXP, but it might be negligible, as the block time is much higher at 1m15s.

Added Sibcoin with X11Gost algo. http://whattomine.com/coins/169-sib-x11gost

Site it now a part of newmine affiliate program, where you can buy rigs with 50$ discount (and help to run WTM as well) using "whattomine" code.
http://www.newminerigs.com/shop.html


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: disodium on January 23, 2017, 02:14:57 AM
Is there a way to fetch 3 or 7 days average values of difficulty/profitability? I see them in web interface but cannot find them in JSON.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on January 23, 2017, 08:41:10 AM
Is there a way to fetch 3 or 7 days average values of difficulty/profitability? I see them in web interface but cannot find them in JSON.

Not possible atm.
I am planning to add a proper API authorized with tokens, but will see if I can get the data you requested into existing json.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on February 01, 2017, 05:45:27 PM
Added single calculator for PASC Pascalcoin
http://whattomine.com/coins/172-pasc-pascal


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: bughatti on February 05, 2017, 03:58:49 PM
@fredeq

Is it possible for a user to change what coins show on the front page.  Alot of the coins on the front I dont mine so I have to check single coins.  Can you make the ability for me to go in the coin section and check just what I want to show?  I can see how this would make the front page grow so keeping a static limit would still be good but currently I only have 2 algo's checked on the front and have to check a few other single coins.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on February 05, 2017, 08:36:34 PM
@fredeq

Is it possible for a user to change what coins show on the front page.  Alot of the coins on the front I dont mine so I have to check single coins.  Can you make the ability for me to go in the coin section and check just what I want to show?  I can see how this would make the front page grow so keeping a static limit would still be good but currently I only have 2 algo's checked on the front and have to check a few other single coins.

All of this is possible, but without real user accounts it will mean more and more cookies.
I like the idea though, it would solve the problem of not enough spots to list algos.

I am curious what other algos do you browse?
I can only think of pascal tbh. Will add it when nicehash releases support for it in a miner btw.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: bughatti on February 05, 2017, 10:23:19 PM
@fredeq

Is it possible for a user to change what coins show on the front page.  Alot of the coins on the front I dont mine so I have to check single coins.  Can you make the ability for me to go in the coin section and check just what I want to show?  I can see how this would make the front page grow so keeping a static limit would still be good but currently I only have 2 algo's checked on the front and have to check a few other single coins.

All of this is possible, but without real user accounts it will mean more and more cookies.
I like the idea though, it would solve the problem of not enough spots to list algos.

I am curious what other algos do you browse?
I can only think of pascal tbh. Will add it when nicehash releases support for it in a miner btw.

Pascal is the main one over the course of the last few weeks, but i check decred and etherium.  Since Im still new to mining i dont know if I can use the others on the main page currently as examples, I guess I would just like the ability to select what coins matter and watch them


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on February 05, 2017, 11:03:59 PM
@fredeq

Is it possible for a user to change what coins show on the front page.  Alot of the coins on the front I dont mine so I have to check single coins.  Can you make the ability for me to go in the coin section and check just what I want to show?  I can see how this would make the front page grow so keeping a static limit would still be good but currently I only have 2 algo's checked on the front and have to check a few other single coins.

All of this is possible, but without real user accounts it will mean more and more cookies.
I like the idea though, it would solve the problem of not enough spots to list algos.

I am curious what other algos do you browse?
I can only think of pascal tbh. Will add it when nicehash releases support for it in a miner btw.

Pascal is the main one over the course of the last few weeks, but i check decred and etherium.  Since Im still new to mining i dont know if I can use the others on the main page currently as examples, I guess I would just like the ability to select what coins matter and watch them

I dont get it then, both DCR and ETH are present on the main page.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: bughatti on February 06, 2017, 04:57:04 AM
@fredeq

Is it possible for a user to change what coins show on the front page.  Alot of the coins on the front I dont mine so I have to check single coins.  Can you make the ability for me to go in the coin section and check just what I want to show?  I can see how this would make the front page grow so keeping a static limit would still be good but currently I only have 2 algo's checked on the front and have to check a few other single coins.

All of this is possible, but without real user accounts it will mean more and more cookies.
I like the idea though, it would solve the problem of not enough spots to list algos.

I am curious what other algos do you browse?
I can only think of pascal tbh. Will add it when nicehash releases support for it in a miner btw.

Pascal is the main one over the course of the last few weeks, but i check decred and etherium.  Since Im still new to mining i dont know if I can use the others on the main page currently as examples, I guess I would just like the ability to select what coins matter and watch them

I dont get it then, both DCR and ETH are present on the main page.

Again, with my newb knowledge of mining, do you mean ethash and cryptonight?  I do not see ETH/DCR on the front page


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on February 06, 2017, 11:52:45 AM

Again, with my newb knowledge of mining, do you mean ethash and cryptonight?  I do not see ETH/DCR on the front page

Its Ethash and Blake(14r), both of those algorithms should be "checked", meaning their buttons need to be blue, not grey. For example:

https://i.imgsafe.org/863d5a1364.png


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: bughatti on February 07, 2017, 02:05:41 AM

Again, with my newb knowledge of mining, do you mean ethash and cryptonight?  I do not see ETH/DCR on the front page

Its Ethash and Blake(14r), both of those algorithms should be "checked", meaning their buttons need to be blue, not grey. For example:

https://i.imgsafe.org/863d5a1364.png


I got all that, I know how to use the site, I just never mined blake, just dcr so I never made the correlation they are one in the same algo.  I see you put Pascal up, much appreciated for that.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on February 07, 2017, 02:13:00 AM
Delisted PASC for now though as I dont like the results, will check this tomorrow once 24h average normalizes.

You can check algo for every coin at both the main list and the single calc to make sure :)

Edit:
Actually Blakecoin is in a different algo than DCR, but DCR, SIA, XVC are all part of blake with variations.
Nicehash endpoint for Pascal is still active if anyone wants to compare.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on February 08, 2017, 06:02:27 PM
Pascal PASC relisted in the GPU section with new formula, checked profits for the last 24h and they match.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: coinzoid on February 10, 2017, 09:03:55 AM
In my end power cost field is grayed out on main page. I'd like to input 0.1 $ and calculate. However it works on specific coin page.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on February 10, 2017, 09:33:39 AM
In my end power cost field is grayed out on main page. I'd like to input 0.1 $ and calculate. However it works on specific coin page.

On main page there is a global `cost` field that has the price of "$/kWh".
Need to input proper value there.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: bughatti on February 10, 2017, 03:39:45 PM
@fredeq, have you thought about adding a box for people to put fee's in?  Fee's for pool's and fee's for dev's?


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on February 10, 2017, 08:13:26 PM
@fredeq, have you thought about adding a box for people to put fee's in?  Fee's for pool's and fee's for dev's?

Never considered it to be honest.
Main list should be used as a rough comparison between different coins.

More detailed calculation is then made at single pages where you can alter difficulties, prices, fees.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on February 13, 2017, 12:25:12 AM
Komodo KMD has landed:
http://whattomine.com/coins/174-kmd-equihash


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: andreynk on February 14, 2017, 07:08:54 PM
Bug detected:
When i calculated any cards but 280x speed and switches back to calculationg 280x speed - the 280x equihash speed becomes equal to rx480 speed (290s/s). Control+f5 only fix it back to 250s/s.
Tested in latest Chrome/Firefox browsers.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on February 14, 2017, 07:27:13 PM
Bug detected:
When i calculated any cards but 280x speed and switches back to calculationg 280x speed - the 280x equihash speed becomes equal to rx480 speed (290s/s). Control+f5 only fix it back to 250s/s.
Tested in latest Chrome/Firefox browsers.


New 280x speed for equihash is supposed to be 290 ;)
All good, save the new speed.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: bughatti on February 14, 2017, 09:15:19 PM
@fredeq, on your Coins page, for each coin you have some default data.  How did you come across this data to input?  I ask because I am trying to determine how to pull all coins to a program to find most profitable without using my own data and then be able to parse your data based on my known equipment and hash rates. 


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on February 14, 2017, 09:19:09 PM
@fredeq, on your Coins page, for each coin you have some default data.  How did you come across this data to input?  I ask because I am trying to determine how to pull all coins to a program to find most profitable without using my own data and then be able to parse your data based on my known equipment and hash rates. 

All active algorithms should match values for a single 280x card.
As long as they are GPU mineable ofc ;)


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: bughatti on February 14, 2017, 09:22:48 PM
@fredeq, on your Coins page, for each coin you have some default data.  How did you come across this data to input?  I ask because I am trying to determine how to pull all coins to a program to find most profitable without using my own data and then be able to parse your data based on my known equipment and hash rates. 

All active algorithms should match values for a single 280x card.
As long as they are GPU mineable ofc ;)

Ok, so is it possible if I dont change that data that I could get innacurate results if I use nVidia vs AMD.  If so, how can I change all the results from 1 command to inject say using a gtx 1070?  Sorry for the questions, im just starting to learn coding with a friend.  Your help is greatly appreciated!


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on February 14, 2017, 09:47:20 PM
@fredeq, on your Coins page, for each coin you have some default data.  How did you come across this data to input?  I ask because I am trying to determine how to pull all coins to a program to find most profitable without using my own data and then be able to parse your data based on my known equipment and hash rates. 

All active algorithms should match values for a single 280x card.
As long as they are GPU mineable ofc ;)

Ok, so is it possible if I dont change that data that I could get innacurate results if I use nVidia vs AMD.  If so, how can I change all the results from 1 command to inject say using a gtx 1070?  Sorry for the questions, im just starting to learn coding with a friend.  Your help is greatly appreciated!

You need to pass your own hashrate & power & probably cost to each `/coins/coin-id.json` page separately - there is no way to just reuse values from `/coins` page.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: bughatti on February 14, 2017, 09:55:26 PM
@fredeq, on your Coins page, for each coin you have some default data.  How did you come across this data to input?  I ask because I am trying to determine how to pull all coins to a program to find most profitable without using my own data and then be able to parse your data based on my known equipment and hash rates. 

All active algorithms should match values for a single 280x card.
As long as they are GPU mineable ofc ;)

Ok, so is it possible if I dont change that data that I could get innacurate results if I use nVidia vs AMD.  If so, how can I change all the results from 1 command to inject say using a gtx 1070?  Sorry for the questions, im just starting to learn coding with a friend.  Your help is greatly appreciated!

You need to pass your own hashrate & power & probably cost to each `/coins/coin-id.json` page separately - there is no way to just reuse values from `/coins` page.

So in essence I could take ?utf8=%E2%9C%93&hr=1750.0&p=650.0&fee=3.0&cost=0.06&hcost=0.0&commit=Calculate and add it to every equihash coin and request data


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on February 14, 2017, 10:27:02 PM
@fredeq, on your Coins page, for each coin you have some default data.  How did you come across this data to input?  I ask because I am trying to determine how to pull all coins to a program to find most profitable without using my own data and then be able to parse your data based on my known equipment and hash rates.  

All active algorithms should match values for a single 280x card.
As long as they are GPU mineable ofc ;)

Ok, so is it possible if I dont change that data that I could get innacurate results if I use nVidia vs AMD.  If so, how can I change all the results from 1 command to inject say using a gtx 1070?  Sorry for the questions, im just starting to learn coding with a friend.  Your help is greatly appreciated!

You need to pass your own hashrate & power & probably cost to each `/coins/coin-id.json` page separately - there is no way to just reuse values from `/coins` page.

So in essence I could take ?utf8=%E2%9C%93&hr=1750.0&p=650.0&fee=3.0&cost=0.06&hcost=0.0&commit=Calculate and add it to every equihash coin and request data

Correct. You can also drop utf8 and commit keys.

You could also query `/coins` once for just equihash to check how those coins relate to each other (no fee or cost params though).
Take note that for `/coins` params to be valid, you must always send positive `eth_hr`:
"https://whattomine.com/coins.json?factor[eth_hr]=1.0&eq=true&factor[eq_hr]=111.0&factor[eq_p]=888.0"


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: yerfei on February 17, 2017, 08:55:46 AM
@fredeq
Can you add to your  page https://whattomine.com/coins.json
Active coins like: PASC
Thanks


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on February 17, 2017, 11:03:26 AM
@fredeq
Can you add to your  page https://whattomine.com/coins.json
Active coins like: PASC
Thanks

PASC is delisted currently, while I keep searching for more accurate formula.


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: yerfei on February 19, 2017, 10:41:10 AM
@fredeq
Can you add to your  page https://whattomine.com/coins.json
Active coins like: DASH
Thanks


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on February 19, 2017, 04:23:22 PM
@fredeq
Can you add to your  page https://whattomine.com/coins.json
Active coins like: DASH
Thanks

Dash is a X11 coin, which belongs in asic section, not gpu.
You can find current asic algos here:
https://whattomine.com/asic


Title: Re: Whattomine - profitability website with basic api.
Post by: fredeq on February 22, 2017, 12:01:56 AM
Updated 1070 values to use low-power settings.
Added 1060 6GB values.