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Title: Buying btc online with creit or debit cards
Post by: BTCool on April 12, 2014, 06:38:23 PM
I want to make a site where people can buy btc online with credit or debit cards. No trading. What are the pros, the cons the risks? Is it even possible?


Title: Re: Buying btc online with creit or debit cards
Post by: funchiestz on April 13, 2014, 04:57:41 PM
I want to make a site where people can buy btc online with credit or debit cards. No trading. What are the pros, the cons the risks? Is it even possible?

In my opinion, providing service to selling bitcoin via credit card is quite very challenging. It will invite many hackers use fraud credit card to buy your bitcoin. The real owner of credit card will do charge back and it will make you end up losing your bitcoin.


Title: Re: Buying btc online with creit or debit cards
Post by: roslinpl on April 13, 2014, 06:21:13 PM
I want to make a site where people can buy btc online with credit or debit cards. No trading. What are the pros, the cons the risks? Is it even possible?


It is possible for sure. You can build that.
But finding a customer who will trust this kind of service will be ultra hard.


Title: Re: Buying btc online with creit or debit cards
Post by: firejuan on April 14, 2014, 12:53:18 AM
Coin.mx currently allows CC purchases for BTC.  You have to shoulder the 3.5% fee.  It does allow trading so it is similar a traditional exchange.

Edit: I also believe it is only for US customers.


Title: Re: Buying btc online with creit or debit cards
Post by: sorryforthat on April 14, 2014, 04:11:49 AM
Coin.mx currently allows CC purchases for BTC.  You have to shoulder the 3.5% fee.  It does allow trading so it is similar a traditional exchange.

Have you or has anyone tested this here? Would some feedback before I give it a shot
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Title: Re: Buying btc online with creit or debit cards
Post by: mintodev on April 14, 2014, 07:16:21 AM
Why not? You can able to buy, but very high costs. Using credit card you can buy with paypal at localbitcoins.


Title: Re: Buying btc online with creit or debit cards
Post by: gmx95 on July 21, 2014, 10:28:58 PM
I want to make a site where people can buy btc online with credit or debit cards. No trading. What are the pros, the cons the risks? Is it even possible?

Actually I think it could be easier and better to buy through trading. You get market rates and plenty of payment options including credit and debit cards.


Title: Re: Buying btc online with creit or debit cards
Post by: polynesia on July 22, 2014, 12:59:55 AM
I want to make a site where people can buy btc online with credit or debit cards. No trading. What are the pros, the cons the risks? Is it even possible?

Cons - The high transaction charges.
This model will collapse if the volatility of bitcoin decreases.


Title: Re: Buying btc online with creit or debit cards
Post by: zolace on July 22, 2014, 06:11:14 PM
This is why They ask for paper work to make sure your the right person, there are many scammer who get hacked cards and if you dont do the proper verification your going to get scammed alot, trust me


Title: Re: Buying btc online with creit or debit cards
Post by: blumangroup on July 22, 2014, 06:54:12 PM
The pros are that you will be able to charge a huge markup on the market price of BTC

The Cons are that you will only be able to sell small amounts

You are going to risk getting scammed from buyers


Title: Re: Buying btc online with creit or debit cards
Post by: joshraban76 on July 23, 2014, 08:45:18 AM
Being that the customer will always have the option of charging back after they get the coin, I dont think its a great idea. I mean I would love to be able to buy coin with a cc like a paypal debit would be great. But the risk you would take as a seller I dont think your profits would outweigh the risks IMO


Title: Re: Buying btc online with creit or debit cards
Post by: Dread Pirate Roberts on July 25, 2014, 03:28:58 PM
becarefull if you purchase or put your information data in unfamiliar website . they just people . they can get money in your bank . and take all to buy another digital money . and cash out with real money . if you still want to this better in btc-e or bitstamp . they are good and have a lot  high reputation rating
good luck.


Title: Re: Buying btc online with creit or debit cards
Post by: IMPORTANT NOTICE on July 26, 2014, 10:09:48 PM
Coinbase should be good enough. They accept visa card deposits from US customers. I believe you have to be an account holder for a certain amount of time though before you have the ability to buy with a card. Buying with a bank transfer is much easier, you should have your btc in about 3 business days. US only though  ;)


Title: Re: Buying btc online with creit or debit cards
Post by: forsakenpnut on July 26, 2014, 10:11:46 PM
Of course they could easily chargeback.


Title: Re: Buying btc online with creit or debit cards
Post by: joshraban76 on July 27, 2014, 08:51:39 AM
Coinbase should be good enough. They accept visa card deposits from US customers. I believe you have to be an account holder for a certain amount of time though before you have the ability to buy with a card. Buying with a bank transfer is much easier, you should have your btc in about 3 business days. US only though  ;)
As far as I know the CC is only a backup funding source to enable instant buy. The purchase will withdraw from the bank account and only use the credit card if the transaction is denied for some reason by the bank.


Title: Re: Buying btc online with creit or debit cards
Post by: SHA255 on July 27, 2014, 10:10:15 PM
Coinbase should be good enough. They accept visa card deposits from US customers. I believe you have to be an account holder for a certain amount of time though before you have the ability to buy with a card. Buying with a bank transfer is much easier, you should have your btc in about 3 business days. US only though  ;)
As far as I know the CC is only a backup funding source to enable instant buy. The purchase will withdraw from the bank account and only use the credit card if the transaction is denied for some reason by the bank.
This is correct. There are very few sites that will allow you to actually your credit card to buy bitcoin and the ones that do charge a huge markup due to the massive fraud risk.


Title: Re: Buying btc online with creit or debit cards
Post by: yitingyou on July 30, 2014, 02:17:20 AM
Coin.mx currently allows CC purchases for BTC.  You have to shoulder the 3.5% fee.  It does allow trading so it is similar a traditional exchange.

Edit: I also believe it is only for US customers.
agree.


Title: Re: Buying btc online with creit or debit cards
Post by: CryptoHeaven on August 24, 2014, 10:32:28 AM
Higher fees and chargebacks are two main concerns that you may need to workout.


Title: Re: Buying btc online with creit or debit cards
Post by: oceans on August 31, 2014, 06:41:34 PM
High fee's and the possibility that you may attract hackers or even credit and debit card fraud are all things I can think of that you would have to find a solution for. Even with banking like we have now you get all these kind of problems and with bitcoin still being at it's early stages it may be a lot easier for them to find a way around.


Title: Re: Buying btc online with creit or debit cards
Post by: rikkejohn on August 31, 2014, 11:16:34 PM
Bank transfer is safer. I get mine within 2 working days, usually the same day. If I could be bothered going to a branch of the trader's bank, I would get the same day.

Have a look at what the competition is in your region, and see if you can beat it.



Title: Re: Buying btc online with creit or debit cards
Post by: haploid23 on September 01, 2014, 05:28:05 AM
Someone has tried this and used Square as the payment processor. He instantly got scammed, then shut down by Square haha. This absolutely will not work in the long run.


Title: Re: Buying btc online with creit or debit cards
Post by: mnmShadyBTC on September 01, 2014, 06:37:36 AM
I want to make a site where people can buy btc online with credit or debit cards. No trading. What are the pros, the cons the risks? Is it even possible?

In my opinion, providing service to selling bitcoin via credit card is quite very challenging. It will invite many hackers use fraud credit card to buy your bitcoin. The real owner of credit card will do charge back and it will make you end up losing your bitcoin.
The above risks will greatly add to the risks to the seller, and will result in a higher price. If you are truly the account holder of the credit card then you are likely much better off by taking a cash advance on your credit card and using the money to buy bitcoin via LBC and/or an exchange.


Title: Re: Buying btc online with creit or debit cards
Post by: 98problems on September 01, 2014, 10:09:09 PM
Someone has tried this and used Square as the payment processor. He instantly got scammed, then shut down by Square haha. This absolutely will not work in the long run.
I don't think this problem would be unique to square. Any credit card processing company will likely close the account of anyone who receives as many fraud/chargeback claims that someone selling bitcon via credit cards would likely incur.


Title: Re: Buying btc online with creit or debit cards
Post by: gmx95 on September 02, 2014, 02:13:35 AM
Fraud and chargebacks would obviously be the main risk points. The credit card companies may cancel payments even in 3-6 months after it was made. By that time of course your bitcoins would be long gone.


Title: Re: Buying btc online with creit or debit cards
Post by: applesRyummy on September 02, 2014, 02:34:58 AM
Fraud and chargebacks would obviously be the main risk points. The credit card companies may cancel payments even in 3-6 months after it was made. By that time of course your bitcoins would be long gone.
Ironically your signature is promoting a platform that allows you to fund via credit cards.

Any service would likely need to essentially make sure that the transaction is flagged as suspicious at the credit card company, have the CC company contact the customer and verify that it was in fact authorized. This would greatly increase the costs associated with not only accepting credit card payments but also doing business as every single transaction would need to be handled manually.