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Again, this ended quite a while ago. Server has been passed off. I liked working on it and meeting guys from the old BitVegas but I co-own another server now and I don't feel it's ethical to work on this during that.

For hosting, Centarra/Tortoiselabs has dedicated servers that you can buy with bitcoin. For $100USD a month you can get a dedicated server with a Sandy Bridge Xeon, 16GB of RAM, 2TB of disk, and 100/1000 bandwidth. That should be plenty to run a high performance server with at least ~150 people, if not more.

You should note though, that the plan above is the lowest dedicated plan; if you don't need specs like those you should try one of their VPS options instead, which are fairly reasonable, especially with some of the coupons out there. If you do, try asking them for a discount for using fewer IPv4 addresses - the plan you would likely use comes with 16, and you would likely only need 3-4.

If you need help with hosting and other technical stuff let me know, I don't work for free but I'd be happy to contribute for a rank, or maybe a cut of the (future) profit.

Moida worked a long time on BitVegas and didn't release the first version until it was really done. He worked hard on security and the backend server, so you (and the people who will be working with you) will have to invest a lot of time and money into it before you can even think about profits or even releasing it to public. Bugs will be exploited

I would like to remind you that BitVegas was slowly losing it's bankroll. Moida said that we had to attract bigger players, so that we could regain what we lost from the faucet (because well, newbs don't deposit). However, we had a big enough bankroll to keep going for quite a while (months, if not years), so I doubt that the lack of money is the reason why BitVegas suddenly stopped.

I don't think security is as big of an issue as you think; bugs in the software are though. If you implement a system where everything is logged and manual verification is required for cashing out a certain amount in a certain time frame, you should be able to catch many people exploiting bugs. Obviously security audits are a must as well, but can be mostly automated.

I think overall the bankroll problem could be solved by moving people away from playing against the house, and having more games where players play against each other with a house rake. A house edge is useful only with a large number of bets over a long time, whereas a rake ensures a steady amount of income.

I'm aware bugs will be exploited, however as this is PvP the amount of bugs against the server is limited. The vast majority of our BTC will be stored offline and I'm not even going to take the risk of auto-withdrawals as they're too big a risk due to exploits. This does mean there will unfortunately be a delay on withdrawals but it is needed. Deposits will still be automatic if everything goes to plan.

i will be helping with this a lot

with pvp their are hacks and it will not work
i promise you just revive the bitvegas how it was and you will be fine i am aware of all the exploits that has happen to the original bitvegas server
first- auto withdrawals were bugged but fixed due to adding a time delay
second- mass referring was a thing(400+ refs of me <3)
there are more but i don't want to list them to give people ideas

Well, what can I do to help?

Not pvp as in minecraft fighting, pvp as in player versus player gambling.

Nobody liked you, you abused the referral system against the rules and you will not be staff on the new server.

I assume you are a member of thus project?

so future staff is already harassing players i seem to think you have picked a wrong admin @diamond

You will not be staff, sorry. A history of offences at BitVegas does not help your case, whether I decide to implement a referral program or decide not to.

Send me a PM, we need people who can either volunteer to be staff on the server or help develop it (and receive a staff rank for that).

Also guys, I am working on more information which I will soon release in the OP, including our initial fundraiser to purchase/fund a good VPS to run BTCVegas on. Worst case scenario I will fund BTCVegas myself, but that's a secondary option, not my primary preference.


Looking into Centarra right now, their deals look very good and have great specs for what we would need to run.

may i ask what your in game name was?. If you were not staff you do not have grounds to talk about my status between staff.

Uh, steveds, he kind of does have grounds to talk about your status between staff because he was staff.

http://minecraft-servers.info/profile-steveds
post was deleted along time ago

I'm not even going to reply to your PMs anymore, if my players continue to harass you legal actions will be taken? Steveds, right now this is a plan so I don't have any players. Calling you out is not harassment.

On-topic, I will be releasing more info today.

http://minecraft-servers.info/server.php?id=194
thats funny seems king oflogic posted it not me

Now you're claiming he edited the image in your PMs to me yet a moment ago you were saying it was old and you had deleted it.

Sigh, please stop PMing me as I simply will not listen.

look at the urls
http://minecraft-servers.info/server.php?id=194
and the one in the screenshot.
I posted mc.bitvegas.net on a various of sites but when i checked my account it said 0 added so its possible i removed it but the urls wouldn't match it was posted twice
http://minecraft-servers.info/profile-steveds

Hope i don't get permed for logging in :O

That's weird, I'll go check.

also make sure this is hosted non us and has bulletproof hosting because i no bitvegas was ddosed a lot

This won't be hosted in the US under any circumstances. Right now everything is up in the air.

King got the server you added removed/changed and made it like it is right now himself. It's hard to use logic, is it not? Have fun with your court stuff. DiamondCardz, can you see/understand why we perm. banned him in the end? We gave him a shitload of chances and he fucked them all up.

I am Mitch377 by the way.

Edit: I will let King confirm this if I get a hold of him. ;)

One thing you could do, especially if you have multiple IPv4 addresses, is use something like nginx to proxy all of them back to the minecraft server, then script nginx to monitor the amount of traffic through each and turn them on/off to prevent DDOS. Or even better, write a server to sit in front of the minecraft server and generate a custom IP/port for every player that would only work for them, and monitor each one for abuse.

you were staff for about a month. You were not a really big part and i would have been staff if i didn't drop out of building the new casino.
If he added it would have had a new url

This is a slightly awkward situation, anyway we'll see. Right now I'm more focused on getting hosting so we can a) start building BTCVegas and b) start testing plugins.

need help with building? let me know i would love to help
let me earn trust from day 1

Hahahaha, no dude. I have been staff since, at least, 30 november 2013. I just checked that in Skype:

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https://i.imgur.com/X6nRNG0.png (https://i.imgur.com/X6nRNG0.png)

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I never said he added a new one, I said he changed it / got it removed and then re-added it by talking to the owners of that website. I don't know exactly what happend, just that what King told me.

Anyway, let's get back on topic. DiamondCardz if you need any help with building or managing the server itself, just hit me up ;)

lets just drop the old bullshit and we will focus on the new bitvegas

I agree. Let's make this one even better then the last one ;D

now that were working together it will be :) waiting for diamond to pm if he has a server up yet so we can start building

Let me know how I can help, I'd like to work on some of the stability infrastructure, but I can do any sort of development.

so far me and bitcoininformation(mitch337) want to build if anyone else wants to quote this comment

wait a minute why are you rushing this project? and do Cardz even want you on the team?
edit: Sorry for the misunderstanding all.

All help is appreciated, right now we'll need the following:

- Builders
- People who can staff the server
- People who can try and help develop some plugins, no matter how good or bad your experience with Java is everyone who actually helps with programming will be given an honorary staff rank :)

We'll also need some people who are interested in purchasing ranks so that we can get a very good spec server. Right now I'm thinking in the regions of 0.25 BTC for a VIP (Green) rank with a small lounge and higher stake PvP games, and 1 BTC for a VIP+ (Gold) rank with a lot more benefits on the server.

Coinnewbit, it's fine :P Right now I have 4 helpers for building, 1 helper who may be able to do a little bit of Java dev.

I am good with Java, just never worked with Bukkit and I doubt that I have time to help you out. Sorry man.

diamond whats the status on putting the server  up?

The max you'll need to spend on a server is $100 a month. I know java, but if you need somebody to secure and set up the VPS/dedicated server I can do that too.

Maybe, I'll contact you if I end up needing help.

Making a secure paper wallet right now for the holding of any backup BTCVegas funds, and another for user funds.

Hey,
get on Skype so we can talk 'bout this. Idea seems do-able, I might have some ideas.

Changed my mind here and went for a brain wallet as someone can't rob me of that. Forgetting this brain wallet will not be an issue but no-one will be able to guess this. The address of the brain wallet is 1253scB7f3QMo4XzWAUsV8qmxUEKRUX2sG. Quote this so I can not change it.

Now that we have a safe method of storage for keeping the funds off of a computer, I have went ahead and created the hot wallet for keeping a small portion of funds. Funds that are being raised before the server starts up will also go there.

Again, rank info coming soon.

Quoted.

Note: Calling BTCVegas a casino is correct but we do not personally offer gambling games, we simply give the tools and a place for people to gamble against each other. There will be no gambling against the house.

Good news, I have decided to lower the rake on our PvP games to 1% :) However, this means we will now be relying a lot on our pre-sale of ranks (minor) and our sale of ranks (major) before and after BTCVegas launches. These ranks officially are donation ranks for the server. Before we launch all ranks will have a 20% discount, this discount is here to encourage people to donate now so we can raise funds for the initial server purchase. It is likely that our server will launch with 4 GB of RAM, and increase to 8 GB of RAM when our player count requires it.

We will offer these donation ranks in addition to all the normal server ranks:

VIP - Access to the VIP suite. The PvP games there e.g coin flip will have a 10x higher minimum bet and a 10x higher maximum bet, for those high rollers out there :P The VIP suite will also feature editable rooms which can be stylized for free. VIPs also are colored lime green on the server (Minecraft color code &a). VIP withdrawals will always be prioritized over regular member withdrawals. VIP will cost 0.25 BTC, however buying before BTCVegas is officially launched saves 20% so the cost pre-launch is only 0.2 BTC.

VIP+ - Access to all VIP features & access to VIP+ suite. VIP+ suite has double the minimum/maximum bet of the VIP suite. The VIP+ suite will also feature much larger editable rooms (in fact room is more of a understatement, we're basically talking penthouses) than the VIP suite. VIP+s will be colored gold on the server (Minecraft color code &6). VIP+ withdrawals will be prioritized over ALL withdrawals and upon PMing me I will actually lift the delay on the withdrawal and send you it. VIP+ will cost 1 BTC, but as mentioned before the pre-launch deal saves 20% so the cost pre-launch is only 0.8 BTC.

For those of you who think this is unreasonable, I do not doubt that there will be people prepared to donate these amounts for both a little bit of styling and to get back the fun which BitVegas was. In fact, to start up the 4 GB VPS we want to run BitVegas on, all we need is one person to donate for VIP.

How to pre-purchase these ranks: Please message me in advance that you will be sending me a BTC payment and which address it will be coming from. If you fail to do this I will have to request that you give me a signed message confirming you own the address. I will also need your Minecraft username. Purchasing these ranks will give you exclusive access to see how progress on the server is coming along, also!

The address for pre-purchase payments is 12pUN9DMmanTwriuBZAdkrNkoUK8BHsrAZ - as soon as we get a lightweight BTC client running on a VPS we will move funds there to create a hot wallet, part of the funds will be moved to a cold wallet as backup hosting & withdrawal funds. You can never be too cautious. Also, feel free to send donations if you can't afford to purchase VIP or VIP+, as we still appreciate it!

Thanks.

I would like to get on as staff and help fund the project as an investor, I can also bring thousands of players to the casino through www.bittoclick.com

I'd also love to help build the casino. Please send me a PM if you're interested and I will give you more contact info.

The server you're getting isn't powerful enough, I can tell you now.

What would be a better alternative? I'm interested to find out about what factors to consider.

there is no way you can run this on a 4gb you need min 16

I've toned down our initial estimate of 16 GB as I don't plan to launch with 150 players. However if 4 GB really isn't powerful enough I'll run it on a 8 GB with 50 players. That should be more than enough.

I'm telling your right now your going to get ddosed to hell so prepare for this. Also a bit off topic i know bitvegas had a copyright so you might want to not name it the same thing because you could get in legal trouble. Check if the copyright expired/

We're called BTCVegas, not BitVegas, however I will remove references to BitVegas in the OP to prevent legal trouble.

We will see what we can do about DDoSes.

you might want to actually look into obtaining a copyright for yourself. And will pm me the ip of the server so i start to build?

Breaking News: Building of BTCVegas's map has begun. We are temporarily using a 2GB private VPS for those working on BTCVegas to build it. We still need donations to go up to a larger 4-8 GB VPS and start developing plugins and testing them there, however.

thats fast. All the best!

Here's some proof we are getting to work on BTCVegas and that we aren't scamming, for any of you who are skeptical about buying a rank!

http://i.gyazo.com/c8901fedab797c8de4dcbe0cff0689ec.png

We are now closed to extra helpers, sorry to those who were interested. However, anyone who pre-purchases a VIP or VIP+ rank will be whitelisted onto the build server so you can see how work is progressing :) For everyone else, we hope the final product will satisfy you!

I can confirm that I am working on this project.

Confirming I am working on this.

More updates of our progress, work is moving ahead quite fast:

http://i.gyazo.com/fc4d8c14dc5c979cc336853224bb1f07.png

http://i.gyazo.com/87b12037cef10c496bc1fdccfcac929b.png

http://i.gyazo.com/19077c196c3ffa492c193c4e127a66ca.png

http://i.gyazo.com/8b2403d1f1bd907e304e84babdce5046.png

The server we are using currently is fine for hosting the 5 people working on the project, but if you are interested in BTCVegas right now the best way to support it is indeed to buy a VIP or VIP+ rank so that we can pave the way for hosting :) After we finish the building of BTCVegas it is likely we will spend a while coding and planning the launch, but buying ranks will indeed speed this up, so do consider donating to the launch of BTCVegas!

i can confirm i am working on this

Sorry but you will not be working on this project, steveds.

Like I said in an earlier post, I can develop you some custom DDOS-prevention software. Let me know if you're interested and I can outline how it might potentially work. I think it would be really easy to integrate with your website and effective at preventing attacks.

Thanks for the offer but we'll see how it plays out. Right now we're still in the planning phase.

We've decided to scrap our design for the interior (too many colors + too childish) and focus on making our games big and elegant, kind of like the first BitVegas! We'll keep you updated with screenshots.

bitvegas still has a copyright so your still infringing on it. Which means murderscene can sue you for everything if he feels like it.

Explain what copyright we're infringing on. Last time I checked the idea of a Bitcoin casino in Minecraft is not copyrighted.

Also, if Murderscene had a copyright he damn well didn't defend it:

http://web.archive.org/web/20140209040434/http://bitvegas.net/

No mention of copyright, trademarks etc.

i don't want to keep arguing with @diamond
i wish him the best on his project <3
i will be sure to hope on a check things out maybe win a few dollars

http://i.gyazo.com/f045a86220dd32fa026bfc892f4beab8.png

Server will be ran on a small VPS at launch as it seems we have not gathered enough interest for any sale of ranks yet, so we will need to rely on rake. It's likely rake will be higher than 1%, maybe 2% or so. At launch we predict interest will not be as great as BitVegas was at it's peak so we will predict a cap of about 15 players.

Q: "OMG YOU'RE GOING TO GET DDOSED"

A: If we get DDoSed we will deal with it as it comes. Withdrawals will continue as usual if a DDoS occurs.

why am i banned? i haven't even logged in before.

That was accidental and nothing to do with the current staff team. However we are currently on whitelist so you can't access the server.

Anyway guys, we may lift the whitelist today or tomorrow so you can preview the BTCVegas beta design :)

That sounds great. I hope this will live for long!

Thank you to all of those who have shown their support in the BTCVegas project so far.

We are currently running on the VPS of a member who would be staff but has instead decided to opt out and become a VIP. Note that no funds will be kept on that VPS so you do not need to trust him, his identity will be kept a secret unless he decides to reveal it.

As of now I have lifted the whitelist on the server, you can connect by connecting to the server IP "starbound.li". Your Minecraft must be updated to the latest version. We have tried to make the beta design as simplistic as possible, so you should not experience any lag! No game plugins are currently running so the only function of the server at the moment is to give you an idea of what BTCVegas will be like :)

Again, the IP is starbound.li. The official texture pack for BTCVegas (inspired by BitVegas, some of BitVegas' old textures currently still reside in the texture pack but it will soon be removed) will soon be posted below, so you can see what it will look like - connecting to BTCVegas without the texture pack will result in you seeing a lot of randomly placed blocks.

Hey guys, Untitled here. I'm one of the people working on the BTCVVegas project and I also happen to be making the texture pack.

I've got an alpha of the resource pack up here if you want to download it and look around our WIP Casino. I'm working off the original BitVegas resource pack here so if you dig through the files you might find some aspects of it still identical to the BitVegas pack. I'm working to make it more unique and it's going pretty quickly, but that's something to keep in mind.

You can download it here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/sf7vkd819aeweo6/BTCV.zip

I look forward to seeing you all on the server!

//Untitled

Confirmed, this is the official BTCVegas texture pack and is required to make it look correct.

EDIT: Texture pack is now auto-install.

http://i.gyazo.com/f817e4ee0173cab7e89741cd98d8902f.png

Can i play with cracked Minecraft?

We are working on making the server cracked but due to security we can make no guarantees.

Not interested?

Please add me on Skype, my username is HardMyDisk - I'll add you into the staff chat and we can discuss there.

Note to others, we are changing servers so the old IP will no longer be usable & the beta preview will be down for a day or so.

as someone who knows how to exploit a lot of bugs :) i strong urge you to not allow cracked minecraft

Right now we are considering it, if we think it poses a security risk we will not implement it - right now it seems unlikely, anyway.

here is what happens if you make it cracked
someone logins as you and can ban people

There are plugins that can be made to prevent that very easily.

theres exploits <3  but seriously

Steve, you realise that we managed to prevent that using the guest system on the original BitVegas, right?

pretty sure it was custom coded by murderscene himself. All of bitvegas was. I am not trying to put you down but your not as good of a coder as murderscene.

Do Cardz have a team working with him too?

yes. Murderscene coded the whole bitvegas from scratch i was just saying that i don't think any of the team members were as qualified as murderscene. Anyways i wish @ diamond the best of luck on his project

The beta server is back online! Connect at btcvegas.fluctis.com:25809

All servers are temporary right now, we just switched to fix some errors. The texture pack is downloadable at https://www.dropbox.com/s/sf7vkd819aeweo6/BTCV.zip - we will make the download automatic ASAP.

New update.

We are now looking for a Java developer. The level of knowledge in Java which is required should not be that high, as it will only require knowledge of Bukkit and random number generation along with commands and sign commands/manipulation. A bit of MySQL knowledge may also be required but this is unlikely. Please add me on Skype to negotiate, you will receive a percentage of rake from BTCVegas up to a cap once we launch. My Skype username is HardMyDisk.

Passing on the project to other people. I've been getting a lot of crap about my ability to run this project so I've decided to take what we've done so far and give it to one of my team members to continue running. It's been a fun ride, thanks to all those who have been interested - once I finish passing on the project whoever takes hold will make a new thread.

Officially transferred to TheUntitled, he is now in charge of the project and this is where my affiliation with the project ends permanently.