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Economy => Economics => Topic started by: MrBea on April 17, 2014, 11:44:44 AM



Title: china playing with us
Post by: MrBea on April 17, 2014, 11:44:44 AM
Notice that china pumps up for the season when americans are flush, shopping season, black friday and such.  Then they FUD right after when things get tight like tax season.

too Chinese


Title: Re: china playing with us
Post by: byt411 on April 17, 2014, 11:51:17 AM
Everyone knows this by now.... It's fairly obvious, they spread rumors, drive the price down, buy buy buy, and then release good news, then dump dump dump.


Title: Re: china playing with us
Post by: fiftytwo on April 17, 2014, 11:52:45 AM
after all of this time you understood this only now?


Title: Re: china playing with us
Post by: roslinpl on April 17, 2014, 12:19:52 PM
I do not think China is playing with us.

I think we are looking at them too much..

We should care more about our markets instead of watching China all the time.


Title: Re: china playing with us
Post by: Chillin_with_beer on April 17, 2014, 12:25:37 PM
There is not one china, it has lots of different people, and lots of different groups..
To think 'they' will act as one organised group on an open market is not very realistic.


Title: Re: china playing with us
Post by: CarlesPuyol on April 17, 2014, 12:43:28 PM
china rulling the world...


Title: Re: china playing with us
Post by: Equate on April 17, 2014, 12:59:33 PM
China is best at FUD , they are just manipulating the market.


Title: Re: china playing with us
Post by: roslinpl on April 17, 2014, 01:14:29 PM
China is best at FUD , they are just manipulating the market.

They are - and we are letting them do that as we are blindly look at their BTC market ..


Title: Re: china playing with us
Post by: imready2rock on April 17, 2014, 01:21:11 PM
China is best at FUD , they are just manipulating the market.

They are - and we are letting them do that as we are blindly look at their BTC market ..

Indeed. But in the same time it's easy money - buy when China is buying, sell when China is selling.


Title: Re: china playing with us
Post by: Kiki112 on April 17, 2014, 02:23:15 PM
China is best at FUD , they are just manipulating the market.

They are - and we are letting them do that as we are blindly look at their BTC market ..

Indeed. But in the same time it's easy money - buy when China is buying, sell when China is selling.

and how do you know when they're buying and when they're selling? :D


Title: Re: china playing with us
Post by: Hazir on April 17, 2014, 02:29:17 PM
China is the world's fastest-growing major economy, with growth rates averaging 10% over the past 30 years. China is also the largest exporter and second largest importer of goods in the world. They play the market, that is the way. They are the creating it. They can do almost whatever they want...


Title: Re: china playing with us
Post by: rohnearner on April 17, 2014, 05:15:07 PM
China is best at FUD , they are just manipulating the market.
I'll say they are smart if they are succeeding in manipulating the market..! but they have succeeded to do it more than couple of times now.


Title: Re: china playing with us
Post by: Equate on April 17, 2014, 05:16:30 PM
China is best at FUD , they are just manipulating the market.
I'll say they are smart if they are succeeding in manipulating the market..! but they have succeeded to do it more than couple of times now.

yes they are doing it very intelligently .


Title: Re: china playing with us
Post by: bitsmichel on April 17, 2014, 06:24:48 PM
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and how do you know when they're buying and when they're selling? Cheesy

the china sub-forum on bitcointalk  ??? :P


Title: Re: china playing with us
Post by: kuroman on April 17, 2014, 06:30:39 PM
I think people are stupid enough, to follow china every second, while of course their exchanges has a decent impact on the market, whenever a motion starts from there, the price swings hugely due to people focusing on the situation on that market which is bad, so many good news happened in the btc world, since MTGox closed and China fud, yet they didn't affect the price as much as people are only focusing on those matters


Title: Re: china playing with us
Post by: Nerazzura on April 17, 2014, 06:31:13 PM
yeah right, they play with us
i hope we can play with them too
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and how do you know when they're buying and when they're selling? Cheesy

the china sub-forum on bitcointalk  ??? :P
and we can't understand what they said there  :D


Title: Re: china playing with us
Post by: Kiki112 on April 17, 2014, 06:54:35 PM
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and how do you know when they're buying and when they're selling? Cheesy

the china sub-forum on bitcointalk  ??? :P

their citzens don't control the market, the goverment does

doubt their goverment spends time on bitcointalk :D


Title: Re: china playing with us
Post by: counter on April 17, 2014, 07:16:50 PM
Agreed they think they are puppet masters or something but they will realize this is not so soon enough.  And I obviously don't mean the average citizen of China lol.


Title: Re: china playing with us
Post by: bitsmichel on April 28, 2014, 12:11:48 AM
Chinese Global Bitcoin conference in China to Be Held in May. BTCChina still works, just customers of one bank have problems.
Details on bitprize.org (http://bitprize.org) to lazy to copy+paste here  :P


Title: Re: china playing with us
Post by: jinjuro on April 28, 2014, 12:28:19 AM
China is best at FUD , they are just manipulating the market.

They are - and we are letting them do that as we are blindly look at their BTC market ..

Indeed. But in the same time it's easy money - buy when China is buying, sell when China is selling.

and how do you know when they're buying and when they're selling? :D

You can see the trading here in real time http://fiatleak.com


Title: Re: china playing with us
Post by: bitsmichel on April 28, 2014, 12:32:38 AM
they are buying like crazy on fiatleak  ;D


Title: Re: china playing with us
Post by: beetcoin on April 28, 2014, 12:40:28 AM
it's fair game to them. they also have their own interests to protect; they don't want money leaving their country too.


Title: Re: china playing with us
Post by: guyrx on April 28, 2014, 06:31:32 AM
they are buying like crazy on fiatleak  ;D
yeah, I notice that.


Title: Re: china playing with us
Post by: solid12345 on April 28, 2014, 01:16:49 PM
Interesting developments on the twitter sphere, BTC China has been accused of colluding with the PBOC to create fud and drop the price of Bitcoin so they can raise the value of Litecoin. Personally I always thought there was a conflict of interest with Charlie Lee's brother running an exchange, and now more people are waking up to the fact that there is some serious questions that need to be answered.


Title: Re: china playing with us
Post by: PhoneBloks on April 28, 2014, 01:47:11 PM
China is best at FUD , they are just manipulating the market.

They are - and we are letting them do that as we are blindly look at their BTC market ..

Indeed. But in the same time it's easy money - buy when China is buying, sell when China is selling.

and how do you know when they're buying and when they're selling? :D

You can see the trading here in real time http://fiatleak.com

Omg this is cool :D

Wonder how accurate informations are ... where they get it from. Because I can code such "random" application too. No offense against creators, its very nice but it may not be true :P

But I see it goes default (0 Btc)every time I refresh page :/ ... and no historical data, is it only my fault ?

Graph only shows btc buying .. but doesnt show selling :P and Selling may be stronger than buying


Title: Re: china playing with us
Post by: keithers on April 28, 2014, 10:19:46 PM
I don't think China is playing with as as much as just trying to manipulate the market so that they can secure a huge holding in the BTC market at the cheapest price.  They will ease up on the regulations as soon as they hold enough BTC to feel that they can control the market.   They want to be the major player in everything, so BTC is just another notch on the belt.


Title: Re: china playing with us
Post by: tesene on April 29, 2014, 04:47:48 AM
Agreed, it's their government.  It's not fair to point fingers at the citizens.


Title: Re: china playing with us
Post by: bitmanaus on April 29, 2014, 06:28:50 AM
I do not think China is playing with us.

I think we are looking at them too much..

We should care more about our markets instead of watching China all the time.


someone who agrees with me :) thats refreshing. why is it we always look to China and let them manipulate our market? Lets just BAN CHINA! ;)


Title: Re: china playing with us
Post by: roslinpl on April 29, 2014, 03:04:26 PM
PEOPLE I have great idea! Let's make month May a month of "No-Ban China".

Just for a month :) no rumors, and stuff :)

Forget China :) think about yourself.


Title: Re: china playing with us
Post by: Wolf Rainer on April 29, 2014, 04:57:36 PM
This is the China favorite game, they allways manipulate the markets, thats the way they get as the world's major power and strengthened.


Title: Re: china playing with us
Post by: knightcoin on April 29, 2014, 10:32:58 PM
http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/aBKbQoQ_460sa.gif


Title: Re: china playing with us
Post by: roslinpl on April 29, 2014, 11:14:27 PM

Huehuehue :) :) A Bitoin Hodling machine made in China :)

LOL!


Title: Re: china playing with us
Post by: Malin Keshar on April 30, 2014, 01:13:52 AM
China is manipulating all the world's economy, and destroying local industries all over the world with slave labor and dumpings. Why would they leave BTC outside their trail of destruction?


Title: Re: china playing with us
Post by: durrrr on April 30, 2014, 03:06:35 AM
China is manipulating all the world's economy, and destroying local industries all over the world with slave labor and dumpings. Why would they leave BTC outside their trail of destruction?

is this one big level or troll on bitcoin talk? i keep hearing about china messing wit the economy as a whole but how could they and where are the facts behind this theory?


Title: Re: china playing with us
Post by: rickmontier on April 30, 2014, 01:30:51 PM

This is exactly what China is doing :D Picking up what the others give them.
So just do not enter their game and that's it


Title: Re: china playing with us
Post by: BigMac on April 30, 2014, 03:01:07 PM

This is so random and funny. Where can I buy something like that lol? :D
I must be able to get lots of tips with this lol. :P


Title: Re: china playing with us
Post by: Honeypot on May 01, 2014, 09:37:06 AM
haha

who's playing whom i wonder? :)

trying to be too clever has its down sides. a fatal mistake.


Title: Re: china playing with us
Post by: Honeypot on May 01, 2014, 09:44:14 AM
China is manipulating all the world's economy, and destroying local industries all over the world with slave labor and dumpings. Why would they leave BTC outside their trail of destruction?

is this one big level or troll on bitcoin talk? i keep hearing about china messing wit the economy as a whole but how could they and where are the facts behind this theory?

Exploitation of african resources behind greasy lies about being 'brothers against imperialism' that would have made racially biased colonial regimes balk.

Complete invasion and cultural genocide of an entire nation whose population is muslim yet no pussy muslim wants to collectively fight the ones who don't give a rat's ass about human rights.

Pervasive exploitation of south east indochina nations for their territory and resources using state backed fundings and national political force. Coercion of those nations at the point of a gun yet too afraid to step in their territories after their shameful retreat after just one month in vietnam jungles back in 1979.

Racial and cultural colonialism that would have made hitler proud, yet covered in lies about 'brothers against colonialism'. Cowardice and resource exploitation that is just being recognized by african nations - after the chinese exploited the hell out of african workers.


Title: Re: china playing with us
Post by: Catmoonglow on May 08, 2014, 10:10:17 AM
Dalai Lama said it best http://imgur.com/tQLcAof


Title: Re: china playing with us
Post by: umair127 on May 08, 2014, 02:22:03 PM
China is best at FUD , they are just manipulating the market.
I'll say they are smart if they are succeeding in manipulating the market..! but they have succeeded to do it more than couple of times now.

yes they are doing it very intelligently .

I think they realized it when bitcoin went ove 1200 dollars just cause there prices where going up, its like they knew they were the leaders in the market so they took that info and used it against our market, and yes we shouldnt focous on there markets.