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Title: Is Putin a modern day Lincoln?
Post by: Elwar on April 21, 2014, 07:16:57 AM
The states of the Union have seceded. A powerful leader decided that he does not want a nation divided so he is attacking the sovereign states to bring them back into the union.

Thousands of lives will be lost, freedoms will be put on hold (suspending habeas corpus, martial law, etc..) but in the end, the union will be back together...which is all that matters...right?


Title: Re: Is Putin a modern day Lincoln?
Post by: Balthazar on April 21, 2014, 08:18:34 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34x6m-ahGIo&app=desktop


Title: Re: Is Putin a modern day Lincoln?
Post by: bryant.coleman on April 21, 2014, 12:58:14 PM
If Putin is Lincoln, then who is Obama?

http://lmaobama.com/wp-content/uploads/obama-lincoln-portrait.jpg


Title: Re: Is Putin a modern day Lincoln?
Post by: Hazir on April 21, 2014, 02:06:50 PM
Putin seems like more modern day Hitler to me. Annexation of crimea was awfully similar to Anschluss of Austria in 1938.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anschluss (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anschluss)


Title: Re: Is Putin a modern day Lincoln?
Post by: niothor on April 21, 2014, 02:10:50 PM
The states of the Union have seceded. A powerful leader decided that he does not want a nation divided so he is attacking the sovereign states to bring them back into the union.

Thousands of lives will be lost, freedoms will be put on hold (suspending habeas corpus, martial law, etc..) but in the end, the union will be back together...which is all that matters...right?

What it matters it's the first effect that you mentioned at the begging.
And with people dying , it doesn't matter what you try to do you will still be murderer.



Title: Re: Is Putin a modern day Lincoln?
Post by: general lee on April 21, 2014, 03:16:13 PM
US and EU do nothing....
That is the problem


Title: Re: Is Putin a modern day Lincoln?
Post by: K3nn3th on April 21, 2014, 03:19:44 PM
Hey it's Russia they are just going to keep flipping the bird to everyone and everyone is going to take it.


Title: Re: Is Putin a modern day Lincoln?
Post by: Fiyasko on April 21, 2014, 03:24:49 PM
Hey it's Russia they are just going to keep flipping the bird to everyone and everyone is going to take it.
Goodluck

The only ones Capable of taking out Russia, are US AND China, If US alone attacks, It will be M.A.D, If china alone attacks, same thing, but to world economy
Nobody needs to Attack Russia, saying so is just absurd, the only "threat" to the globe right now, I feel, is North Korea
Russia is too smart to start a big war


Title: Re: Is Putin a modern day Lincoln?
Post by: NationOwnedCCNow on April 21, 2014, 03:29:29 PM
Putin is humanitys last hope, this is for certain. If he is as corrupt as the west and controlled opposition i'd be surprised, but not chocked.


Title: Re: Is Putin a modern day Lincoln?
Post by: bryant.coleman on April 21, 2014, 03:31:09 PM
Russia is too smart to start a big war

May be. But Putin has shown the readiness of the Russian combat troops in 2008. (Russia swept the floor with Georgia after the Georgian army killed a few dozen Russian peace-keepers in South Ossetia).


Title: Re: Is Putin a modern day Lincoln?
Post by: NationOwnedCCNow on April 21, 2014, 03:32:16 PM
Hey it's Russia they are just going to keep flipping the bird to everyone and everyone is going to take it.
Goodluck

The only ones Capable of taking out Russia, are US AND China, If US alone attacks, It will be M.A.D, If china alone attacks, same thing, but to world economy
Nobody needs to Attack Russia, saying so is just absurd, the only "threat" to the globe right now, I feel, is North Korea
Russia is too smart to start a big war

Russia a threat to worldpeace? NORTH KOREA A THREAT?  :o Haha! In what way is North Korea a threat? Or Russia? This is propaganda based opinions sold to the masses by the world propaganda ministry aka BBC/CNN/Reuters/Bloomberg.

The only threat to the world is USA. THE ONLY. They are the ones Whos been invading Foreign countries for the last 60 years. They are the ones doing everything to escalate the conflict in Syria, Ukraine, Iran etc etc.



Title: Re: Is Putin a modern day Lincoln?
Post by: niothor on April 21, 2014, 03:32:55 PM
Putin is humanitys last hope, this is for certain. If he is as corrupt as the west and controlled opposition i'd be surprised, but not chocked.

If Putin is our last hope , then let me say that we're pretty much f*** as a specie.
Let's have Jerry Seinfeld as a second option? Just in case?


Title: Re: Is Putin a modern day Lincoln?
Post by: bryant.coleman on April 21, 2014, 05:18:09 PM
The only threat to the world is USA. THE ONLY. They are the ones Whos been invading Foreign countries for the last 60 years. They are the ones doing everything to escalate the conflict in Syria, Ukraine, Iran etc etc.

Agree with you 100%. No amount of brainwashing can hide the fact that the US has invaded more than a dozen nations without any solid reason during the last two decades or so.


Title: Re: Is Putin a modern day Lincoln?
Post by: Nik1ab on April 21, 2014, 07:07:11 PM
The only threat to the world is USA. THE ONLY. They are the ones Whos been invading Foreign countries for the last 60 years. They are the ones doing everything to escalate the conflict in Syria, Ukraine, Iran etc etc.

Agree with you 100%. No amount of brainwashing can hide the fact that the US has invaded more than a dozen nations without any solid reason during the last two decades or so.
Agreed.


Title: Re: Is Putin a modern day Lincoln?
Post by: bitsmichel on April 21, 2014, 11:27:57 PM
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The states of the Union have seceded. A powerful leader decided that he does not want a nation divided so he is attacking the sovereign states to bring them back into the union.

Thousands of lives will be lost, freedoms will be put on hold (suspending habeas corpus, martial law, etc..) but in the end, the union will be back together...which is all that matters...right?

In the mind of leaders, there is always a financial aspect to war.

Do you really think, the US cares about the Ukrainian people on the other side of the world or about freedom ?  ;D  Seriously none of this leaders give a fuck, its about money.



Title: Re: Is Putin a modern day Lincoln?
Post by: kadter on April 22, 2014, 01:09:29 AM
Perhaps instead of praising V Putin, try to use crypto more to buy goods and services locally? :D


Title: Re: Is Putin a modern day Lincoln?
Post by: beetcoin on April 22, 2014, 01:47:06 AM
if lincoln had a ganster-like mentality and was very much into croneyism for personal interest.. then yes, they are very much alike. i'm not saying he's the only bad guy.. it seems like everyone is. the only difference is that putin doesn't give a fuck.


Title: Re: Is Putin a modern day Lincoln?
Post by: Elwar on April 22, 2014, 03:35:42 AM
Perhaps instead of praising V Putin, try to use crypto more to buy goods and services locally? :D

Comparing Putin to a president that sent hundreds of thousands of people to their death in order to "preserve the union" is hardly praise.


Title: Re: Is Putin a modern day Lincoln?
Post by: bryant.coleman on April 22, 2014, 03:54:58 AM
Comparing Putin to a president that sent hundreds of thousands of people to their death in order to "preserve the union" is hardly praise.

Saw the Hollywood propaganda movie Lincoln a few days ago. Not an iota of truth in it, quite similar to other stupid Hollywood movies. Felt like throwing up... but still how many Oscars did it go?


Title: Re: Is Putin a modern day Lincoln?
Post by: Elwar on April 22, 2014, 07:00:29 AM
Comparing Putin to a president that sent hundreds of thousands of people to their death in order to "preserve the union" is hardly praise.

Saw the Hollywood propaganda movie Lincoln a few days ago. Not an iota of truth in it, quite similar to other stupid Hollywood movies. Felt like throwing up... but still how many Oscars did it go?

They will make a similar movie about Putin in 50 years. And it will be equally good for insomnia.


Title: Re: Is Putin a modern day Lincoln?
Post by: bryant.coleman on April 22, 2014, 07:37:45 AM
They will make a similar movie about Putin in 50 years. And it will be equally good for insomnia.

lol... Hollywood movie about Putin? It will be hilarious. In that movie the evil demonic Putin will be seen as leading lynch-mobs to butcher hapless African refugees and angelic homosexuals.  ;D