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Title: Another Reason Why I Don't Use Hotmail Anymore
Post by: d2dtk on April 21, 2014, 10:31:32 AM
I just recived an email and text that my account had suspicious activity. Great right, they protected my account?

No! I checked my account activity and its been accessed 8 times from other countries in the last 30days!

Good thing it's just a dummy email account.

Great security Microsoft!  ???


Title: Re: Reason Why I Don't Use Hotmail Anymore
Post by: Equate on April 21, 2014, 10:34:28 AM
I stopped using Hotmail since Gmail introduced 2FA.


Title: Re: Reason Why I Don't Use Hotmail Anymore
Post by: dreamspark on April 21, 2014, 10:35:01 AM
A friend of mine recently had his account accessed from various places and his password reset. Took him weeks to get control of his account back.


Title: Re: Reason Why I Don't Use Hotmail Anymore
Post by: dreamspark on April 21, 2014, 10:35:48 AM
I stopped using Hotmail since Gmail introduced 2FA.

Not a fan of their scanning all emails though ...


Title: Re: Reason Why I Don't Use Hotmail Anymore
Post by: d2dtk on April 21, 2014, 10:37:11 AM
I stopped using Hotmail since Gmail introduced 2FA.

I stopped once I was invited to Gmail before it was released.


Title: Re: Reason Why I Don't Use Hotmail Anymore
Post by: pandacoin on April 21, 2014, 10:37:31 AM
What are you using right now?


Title: Re: Reason Why I Don't Use Hotmail Anymore
Post by: d2dtk on April 21, 2014, 10:38:16 AM
I don't understand how they waited on sending me the info for almost a month.


Title: Re: Reason Why I Don't Use Hotmail Anymore
Post by: Equate on April 21, 2014, 10:39:33 AM
I stopped using Hotmail since Gmail introduced 2FA.

Not a fan of their scanning all emails though ...

yes , that's a different issue altogether but you can use PGP to protect yourself from privy eyes.


Title: Re: Another Reason Why I Don't Use Hotmail Anymore
Post by: CrazyBit on April 21, 2014, 03:13:37 PM
I use Outlook which is another email service by Microsoft, and I have never received suspicious activity.


Title: Re: Another Reason Why I Don't Use Hotmail Anymore
Post by: hilariousandco on April 21, 2014, 03:29:42 PM
The lapse in security was almost certainly on your end. If they have your email password then I'd be careful with your coins and make sure your comp is safe.

I use Outlook which is another email service by Microsoft, and I have never received suspicious activity.

Isn't Outlook just the renamed Hotmail?


Title: Re: Another Reason Why I Don't Use Hotmail Anymore
Post by: cosmofly on April 21, 2014, 03:40:42 PM
Hotmail is mainly used by homosexuals as per statistics

I am using outlook its great


Title: Re: Another Reason Why I Don't Use Hotmail Anymore
Post by: blacksails on April 21, 2014, 05:46:11 PM
Hotmail is mainly used by homosexuals as per statistics

I am using outlook its great
IMO outlook sucks. When you log in it can take minutes before you can even open the mails, or well, do anything at all.
I'm not a fan of using google stuff either, but at least Gmail doesn't take minutes to work.

BTW, as hilariousandco said, the security problem was probably on your end, not on Microsofts.


Title: Re: Another Reason Why I Don't Use Hotmail Anymore
Post by: gagalady on April 21, 2014, 07:00:56 PM
I personally use gmail or yahoo. After hearing this wont use gmail hehe  :-X


Title: Re: Another Reason Why I Don't Use Hotmail Anymore
Post by: dogechode on April 21, 2014, 07:06:21 PM
My gmail was hacked once in the past, got it resolved very quickly and never happened again. That was back before they had 2FA.

I wouldn't be so confident that Microsoft doesn't scan emails.


Title: Re: Another Reason Why I Don't Use Hotmail Anymore
Post by: Nik1ab on April 21, 2014, 07:07:44 PM
Hotmail's spying. End of the story.


Title: Re: Another Reason Why I Don't Use Hotmail Anymore
Post by: golem on April 21, 2014, 08:42:07 PM
My gmail was hacked once in the past, got it resolved very quickly and never happened again. That was back before they had 2FA.

I wouldn't be so confident that Microsoft doesn't scan emails.

Happened to me too, they changed password and secondary email recovery option - BUT forgot to change the SMS recovery option.

Now happily on 2FA for most of my gmail accounts.


Title: Re: Another Reason Why I Don't Use Hotmail Anymore
Post by: jbrnt on April 22, 2014, 12:16:58 AM
There was a time when I can access Hotmail via Outlook Express IMAP. When they stopped it, I stopped using them. I used yahoo for a bit, then switched over to gmail. I liked gmail when I first started using it because of the 1G mail storage while everyone else was at 100M or so.


Title: Re: Another Reason Why I Don't Use Hotmail Anymore
Post by: d2dtk on April 22, 2014, 01:37:51 AM
The lapse in security was almost certainly on your end. If they have your email password then I'd be careful with your coins and make sure your comp is safe

I'm major on security which is why each email has a unique long password. I blame MS, I never used that email nor log in to check it,  everything was forwarded.


Title: Re: Another Reason Why I Don't Use Hotmail Anymore
Post by: beetcoin on April 22, 2014, 01:40:31 AM
i don't use hotmail because i wasn't born in the 1950's. especially since i had so much junk/spam in my e-mail.


Title: Re: Another Reason Why I Don't Use Hotmail Anymore
Post by: hilariousandco on April 23, 2014, 12:01:08 AM
The lapse in security was almost certainly on your end. If they have your email password then I'd be careful with your coins and make sure your comp is safe

I'm major on security which is why each email has a unique long password. I blame MS, I never used that email nor log in to check it,  everything was forwarded.

Yeah, but long passwords won't mean shit for keyloggers. It's weird then. I can't see how it was a lapse on hotmail's end. There must've been someplace or somehow you slipped up.


Title: Re: Another Reason Why I Don't Use Hotmail Anymore
Post by: mamichula on April 23, 2014, 07:17:49 AM
I find hotmail aka outlook to be the best. Never had any issues with them, and I love the sweeping feature.


Title: Re: Another Reason Why I Don't Use Hotmail Anymore
Post by: Swordsoffreedom on April 23, 2014, 07:23:24 AM
I use both since one came before the other and one is legacy and one is not
Although both I feel spy on me equally mumble
Then theirs Yahoo


Title: Re: Another Reason Why I Don't Use Hotmail Anymore
Post by: sana8410 on April 23, 2014, 02:18:58 PM
A lot of people do, so don't beat yourself up about it. There are a lot of reasons not to, for example, if you know a password has been compromised, you don't have to change it in a dozen different places. Most importantly though, you don't want to put your email's (or even worse, bank's) security in a 3rd party's (like a job site) hands.


Title: Re: Another Reason Why I Don't Use Hotmail Anymore
Post by: dubouis on April 23, 2014, 02:21:29 PM
I find hotmail aka outlook to be the best. Never had any issues with them, and I love the sweeping feature.

Here I proclaim you No_Outlook_Problems the First!


Title: Re: Another Reason Why I Don't Use Hotmail Anymore
Post by: dogechode on April 23, 2014, 02:54:28 PM
Wait a second when you people say "hotmail" are you really talking about the relatively new Microsoft Outlook webmail? I have been experimenting with that and like it just fine.


Title: Re: Another Reason Why I Don't Use Hotmail Anymore
Post by: Dogtanian on April 23, 2014, 03:15:59 PM
Wait a second when you people say "hotmail" are you really talking about the relatively new Microsoft Outlook webmail? I have been experimenting with that and like it just fine.

Yes hotmail is now outlook but everybody still calls it hotmail. Works fine for me too.


Title: Re: Another Reason Why I Don't Use Hotmail Anymore
Post by: oureptsC on April 23, 2014, 04:24:30 PM
You are really popular! hacked about 8 times? (You don't use proxies,right? ) , don't blame it all on them though and you better scan/change similar passwords as I doubt this is a hotmail vulnerability.


Title: Re: Another Reason Why I Don't Use Hotmail Anymore
Post by: dogechode on April 23, 2014, 04:29:37 PM
Wait a second when you people say "hotmail" are you really talking about the relatively new Microsoft Outlook webmail? I have been experimenting with that and like it just fine.

Yes hotmail is not outlook but everybody still calls it hotmail. Works fine for me too.

Did you mean hotmail is now outlook?


Title: Re: Another Reason Why I Don't Use Hotmail Anymore
Post by: Dogtanian on April 23, 2014, 04:39:28 PM
Wait a second when you people say "hotmail" are you really talking about the relatively new Microsoft Outlook webmail? I have been experimenting with that and like it just fine.

Yes hotmail is not outlook but everybody still calls it hotmail. Works fine for me too.

Did you mean hotmail is now outlook?

Yeah lol I'll change it now. (congrats on your 1000 post BTW).


Title: Re: Another Reason Why I Don't Use Hotmail Anymore
Post by: dogechode on April 23, 2014, 04:45:23 PM
Oh shit I hit 1000 posts? What's my reward LOL... (and actually how did you even know that? All i see is 'activity level' under users' names, I don't see a post count.)


Title: Re: Another Reason Why I Don't Use Hotmail Anymore
Post by: escrow.ms on April 23, 2014, 04:52:49 PM
I used yahoo in 2000-2004, after that I started using gmail in early 2005,(I hacked someone's email,and invited myself) :P, since then I made alot accounts and I'm still using gmail.




Title: Re: Another Reason Why I Don't Use Hotmail Anymore
Post by: TrailingComet on April 23, 2014, 05:01:15 PM
Too easily hack able, poor features, primitive social integration, in short useless


Title: Re: Another Reason Why I Don't Use Hotmail Anymore
Post by: noviapriani on April 23, 2014, 05:11:00 PM
It's not bad compares to mine where I had several fan art pictures of Runescape and screenshot and then blocking out your friend's names there.........../////////


Title: Re: Another Reason Why I Don't Use Hotmail Anymore
Post by: escrow.ms on April 23, 2014, 05:14:35 PM
The lapse in security was almost certainly on your end.


Well Hotmail was not secure and it's probably still not secure as gmail.
Check temper data exploit, several thousand accounts got hacked that time.

http://www.securitytube.net/video/5125
http://samehsabry.wordpress.com/2012/04/29/8-steps-to-compromise-any-hotmail-account/


Title: Re: Another Reason Why I Don't Use Hotmail Anymore
Post by: Equate on April 23, 2014, 05:20:22 PM
The lapse in security was almost certainly on your end.


Well Hotmail was not secure and it's probably still not secure as gmail.
Check temper data exploit, several thousand accounts got hacked that time.

http://www.securitytube.net/video/5125
http://samehsabry.wordpress.com/2012/04/29/8-steps-to-compromise-any-hotmail-account/

that hack was widely exploited by the underground communities before it became known to public .


Title: Re: Another Reason Why I Don't Use Hotmail Anymore
Post by: blacksails on April 23, 2014, 06:59:25 PM
The lapse in security was almost certainly on your end.


Well Hotmail was not secure and it's probably still not secure as gmail.
Check temper data exploit, several thousand accounts got hacked that time.

http://www.securitytube.net/video/5125
http://samehsabry.wordpress.com/2012/04/29/8-steps-to-compromise-any-hotmail-account/
That exploit was back in 2012. Don't think that's relevant anymore.
Hotmail was not vulnerable to the heartbleed bug btw. Gmail was.


Title: Re: Another Reason Why I Don't Use Hotmail Anymore
Post by: escrow.ms on April 23, 2014, 07:37:22 PM
The lapse in security was almost certainly on your end.


Well Hotmail was not secure and it's probably still not secure as gmail.
Check temper data exploit, several thousand accounts got hacked that time.

http://www.securitytube.net/video/5125
http://samehsabry.wordpress.com/2012/04/29/8-steps-to-compromise-any-hotmail-account/
That exploit was back in 2012. Don't think that's relevant anymore.
Hotmail was not vulnerable to the heartbleed bug btw. Gmail was.

Yeah Because Windows/IIS doesn't use SSL.



Title: Re: Reason Why I Don't Use Hotmail Anymore
Post by: IamCANADIAN013 on April 24, 2014, 04:05:19 AM
I stopped using Hotmail since Gmail introduced 2FA.

Not a fan of their scanning all emails though ...

Neither am I, which is why I've stuck with hotmail/outlook.  I assume though that all the emails are scanned no matter who you use.

I used gmail for a while but found it to be a pain in the ass, I also had my account suspended. Couldn't be bothered to get the account back after that.


Title: Re: Another Reason Why I Don't Use Hotmail Anymore
Post by: d2dtk on April 24, 2014, 06:09:04 AM
You are really popular! hacked about 8 times? (You don't use proxies,right? ) , don't blame it all on them though and you better scan/change similar passwords as I doubt this is a hotmail vulnerability.

Someone logged in 8 times this month from different locations. Could be because they're using Tor. No need for me to worry, that password is out dated and no other accounts share it.

Like I previously stated that email was forwarded over a year ago,  haven't logged in since. MS is at fault since their 2FA failed to protect the account.

My computer is scanned daily and clean,  programs I don't trust are run through sand box after being scanned.


Title: Re: Another Reason Why I Don't Use Hotmail Anymore
Post by: zolace on May 02, 2014, 03:55:29 PM
Changing the password was a very good thing to do, but I'd also recommend running a full antimalware and antivirus scan to make sure they didn't lift the credentials off of your computer. I'd recommend Malwarebytes Free and SuperAntiSpyware Free for this.


Title: Re: Another Reason Why I Don't Use Hotmail Anymore
Post by: d2dtk on May 16, 2014, 06:08:33 AM
Changing the password was a very good thing to do, but I'd also recommend running a full antimalware and antivirus scan to make sure they didn't lift the credentials off of your computer. I'd recommend Malwarebytes Free and SuperAntiSpyware Free for this.

Yeah I did a full scan while in dos and then in safe mode all was clear.

Also added 2fa just to see if anyone else is going to try and access the account again.

I use a few virus and malware scanners including Malwarebytes, I learned long ago not all are created or dated equally the same.


Title: Re: Another Reason Why I Don't Use Hotmail Anymore
Post by: lucring on May 16, 2014, 07:04:54 AM
i am not used to use hotmail and it is not friendly user. i prefer gmail and ymail.


Title: Re: Another Reason Why I Don't Use Hotmail Anymore
Post by: luckybitcoin777 on May 16, 2014, 07:13:50 AM
I prefer gmail and yahoo mail so I don't use hotmail.


Title: Re: Another Reason Why I Don't Use Hotmail Anymore
Post by: MisterDD on May 16, 2014, 08:35:18 AM
Hm that is really weird.
I did not know for such problems.
Try to report that. They must fix those security fails.


Title: Re: Another Reason Why I Don't Use Hotmail Anymore
Post by: danzek on May 16, 2014, 09:55:47 AM
Sad story.
Only gmail.


Title: Re: Another Reason Why I Don't Use Hotmail Anymore
Post by: coolcool on May 16, 2014, 09:57:00 AM
Sad story.
Only gmail.

me too....really sad story...


Title: Re: Another Reason Why I Don't Use Hotmail Anymore
Post by: faninasir on May 16, 2014, 11:04:28 AM
i cant stop using hotmail because it has my first and oldest account ,, so i have to keep dragging it with me ,, tried getting the same id on gmail but couldnt ,


Title: Re: Another Reason Why I Don't Use Hotmail Anymore
Post by: dogechode on May 16, 2014, 01:54:49 PM
i cant stop using hotmail because it has my first and oldest account ,, so i have to keep dragging it with me ,, tried getting the same id on gmail but couldnt ,

A good deal of the reason why I haven't dropped my gmail address is the simple fact that it would be a nightmare to update every place that has that listed as my email address and I'd surely lose some contacts and such in the shuffle. My gmail has become a spamfest; every few months I have to basically go on a campaign of getting unsubscribed from newsletters and crap just to keep it manageable...


Title: Re: Another Reason Why I Don't Use Hotmail Anymore
Post by: acs267 on May 16, 2014, 01:57:26 PM
Hotmails are pretty easy to crack. I never personally used them for anything. In the days of Xronize, I remember we used to just type random ID's and try to see how many  we could crack.


Title: Re: Another Reason Why I Don't Use Hotmail Anymore
Post by: fattypig on May 16, 2014, 02:19:04 PM
Thats why I use gmail instead, but why do people say gmail sucks also? Have no problem with gmail so far...


Title: Re: Another Reason Why I Don't Use Hotmail Anymore
Post by: KIRAZ on May 16, 2014, 03:43:06 PM
Hotmail sucks, i use gmail too i have no problem with it what so ever but i have heard people
say it's not secure enough do not upload any business related attachments with it.
I still don't get why.


Title: Re: Another Reason Why I Don't Use Hotmail Anymore
Post by: #yolo on May 16, 2014, 03:46:01 PM
Lol some of that is your mistake (you had a spy program or used your pass on a non-secure site most likely) but they should implement a system like Google/Yahoo that prevent you from login and asks for Security question/Phone when you login from a new country.


Title: Re: Another Reason Why I Don't Use Hotmail Anymore
Post by: d2dtk on May 17, 2014, 02:16:41 AM
Lol some of that is your mistake (you had a spy program or used your pass on a non-secure site most likely) but they should implement a system like Google/Yahoo that prevent you from login and asks for Security question/Phone when you login from a new country.

Sorry you're wrong the system was clean and like I had mentioned I hadn't accessed that account in over a year.

Gmail is the best. I've been using them since they were beta testing and you had to be invited.


Title: Re: Another Reason Why I Don't Use Hotmail Anymore
Post by: Hazir on May 17, 2014, 02:36:52 AM
I use gmail it is pretty good for me, no problem so far. It does not bother me that they at google read and spy your mails anymore. (Microsoft does that too, so whatever)


Title: Re: Another Reason Why I Don't Use Hotmail Anymore
Post by: d2dtk on May 17, 2014, 02:45:57 AM
I use gmail it is pretty good for me, no problem so far. It does not bother me that they at google read and spy your mails anymore. (Microsoft does that too, so whatever)

It's almost common place that we're spied upon everyday. If not our emails, its our text, calls, facebook, twitter, forum comments. The list goes on..they keep collecting until they find a reason to use it.


Title: Re: Another Reason Why I Don't Use Hotmail Anymore
Post by: snarlpill on May 17, 2014, 05:35:36 AM
I use gmail it is pretty good for me, no problem so far. It does not bother me that they at google read and spy your mails anymore. (Microsoft does that too, so whatever)

It's almost common place that we're spied upon everyday. If not our emails, its our text, calls, facebook, twitter, forum comments. The list goes on..they keep collecting until they find a reason to use it.

Truth. Sad truth, but still. A few years ago before Sno.wden and WikiL eaks, what you just said would have gotten you labeled a "nutcase conspi.racy theorist." There is definitely no privacy left in mainstream products/society, but it can be accomplished. Everyday they try to shut down part of anonymity, on the web and elsewhere. That is why everyone must call/write/lobby against CISPA, SOPA, and any others that will follow.

Anyways, on topic- I also use a hotmail email account for most everything. Same reason a few of you have said already, I've had it forever and it's just rolled with me through time. I expect no real privacy, and most major accounts have some form of 2FA.
What is a good place for me to start learning about and getting an encr.ypted email service?


Title: Re: Another Reason Why I Don't Use Hotmail Anymore
Post by: mrhelpful on May 17, 2014, 05:56:25 AM
I didnt even notice that people still use hotmail still.

I thought everyone moved on to gmail? lol. But yeah, that does suck if you were using the hotmail as primary not dummy account.

Security issues, and personal information... all that stuff esp identity theft.


Title: Re: Another Reason Why I Don't Use Hotmail Anymore
Post by: bryant.coleman on May 17, 2014, 07:23:29 AM
That last time I used any other mail service other than the gmail was way back in 2006. (That was a Yahoo account anyway, never ever used Hotmail in my life). That said, is there any reason why we should use Hotmail? Is it having any additional features which the Gmail is lacking?


Title: Re: Another Reason Why I Don't Use Hotmail Anymore
Post by: circusmidget11 on May 17, 2014, 07:26:37 AM
I went to gmail and never looked back.  I just use yahoo for junk mail.   ;D


Title: Re: Another Reason Why I Don't Use Hotmail Anymore
Post by: bitkanu on May 17, 2014, 08:07:16 AM
step 2 verification is a good facility of gmail  thats why i like to use it :)


Title: Re: Another Reason Why I Don't Use Hotmail Anymore
Post by: vhong on May 17, 2014, 09:22:22 AM
Gmail is more convenient to use and very secure compared to different free web based email services.


Title: Re: Another Reason Why I Don't Use Hotmail Anymore
Post by: Nik1ab on May 17, 2014, 11:32:38 AM
Gmail, Hotmail, Yahoo mail; same shit, different package. Every one of those is spying on you, so why use any of them?


Title: Re: Another Reason Why I Don't Use Hotmail Anymore
Post by: dogechode on May 20, 2014, 01:44:53 PM
Gmail, Hotmail, Yahoo mail; same shit, different package. Every one of those is spying on you, so why use any of them?

Because they provide a convenient, free webmail and if you don't have anything sketchy that you need to hide in your email, what difference does it really make...?