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Title: [SOLVED]Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC
Post by: pekv2 on April 24, 2014, 11:46:31 PM
Edit:
Solved.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=583420.msg6392239#msg6392239
/Edit:

Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC.

There are no legal ways of converting the currency to USD or USD to BTC without going to prison.

/venting

I really want to spill tears I am so frustrated.


Title: Re: Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC
Post by: Joshuar on April 24, 2014, 11:53:36 PM
Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC.

There are no legal ways of converting the currency to USD or USD to BTC without going to prison.

/venting

I really want to spill tears I am so frustrated.

No legal ways?

Never used an exchange, BTC-E, Bitstamp, none?

#stoptrolling.


Title: Re: Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC
Post by: MarketNeutral on April 24, 2014, 11:56:32 PM
I do hope you're trolling, OP.


Title: Re: Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC
Post by: BurtW on April 24, 2014, 11:57:59 PM
Full of shit the OP is.  Yoda


Title: Re: Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC
Post by: pekv2 on April 25, 2014, 12:34:06 AM
Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC.

There are no legal ways of converting the currency to USD or USD to BTC without going to prison.

/venting

I really want to spill tears I am so frustrated.

No legal ways?

Never used an exchange, BTC-E, Bitstamp, none?

#stoptrolling.

These places has money transferrer license? Maybe I am misunderstanding fincen?

These places take weeks for withdraws and deposits?

Edit:
I was tending to get a loan > moneypak > paypal > newegg.

It is illegal?

Don't call me a troll. Maybe I am misunderstanding?


Title: Re: Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC
Post by: MarketNeutral on April 25, 2014, 12:38:11 AM
Try bitsimple.com


Title: Re: Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC
Post by: adamstgBit on April 25, 2014, 12:39:50 AM
https://bitsimple.com/


Title: Re: Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC
Post by: MarketNeutral on April 25, 2014, 12:41:02 AM
https://bitsimple.com/
wizard


Title: Re: Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC
Post by: pekv2 on April 25, 2014, 12:44:36 AM
https://bitsimple.com/

Is this legal?

I just don't want to go into trouble with the law. I think this fincen gots everything knocked around.


Title: Re: Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC
Post by: adamstgBit on April 25, 2014, 12:46:59 AM
https://bitsimple.com/

Is this legal?

I just don't want to go into trouble with the law. I think this fincen gots everything knocked around.

yes its legal.


Title: Re: Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC
Post by: pekv2 on April 25, 2014, 12:51:31 AM
I'm sorry but this is too hard for me. I can just take USD to walgreens buy moneypak. fuck it.


Title: Re: Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC
Post by: adamstgBit on April 25, 2014, 12:52:35 AM
are you trying to buy more or sell.

i dont get it.


Title: Re: Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC
Post by: atp1916 on April 25, 2014, 12:54:28 AM
Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC.

There are no legal ways of converting the currency to USD or USD to BTC without going to prison.

/venting

I really want to spill tears I am so frustrated.

Coinbase = 100% legal.


Title: Re: Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC
Post by: culexevilman on April 25, 2014, 12:55:17 AM
I think OP means the price is too stable, and was expecting a massive rally... ::)


Title: Re: Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC
Post by: adamstgBit on April 25, 2014, 01:06:08 AM
I think OP means the price is too stable, and was expecting a massive rally... ::)

OP

HODL!!!


Title: Re: Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC
Post by: Bit_Happy on April 25, 2014, 01:13:48 AM
I'm sorry but this is too hard for me. I can just take USD to walgreens buy moneypak. fuck it.

moneypak
If you want to pay insane high fees go ahead.
We will still be here when BTC gets exciting enough for you to come back.  :)


Title: Re: Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC
Post by: Beliathon on April 25, 2014, 01:25:44 AM
I just don't want to go into trouble with the law.
Stop being such a pussy. What's life without a little risk?


Title: Re: Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC
Post by: ChuckBuck on April 25, 2014, 01:29:26 AM
How the hell is the OP a Hero member on Bitcointalk and doesn't know how exchanges work?   :o


Title: Re: Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC
Post by: koshgel on April 25, 2014, 01:31:07 AM
Coinbase is super easy to buy and sell through. Not quick but definitely legal.


Title: Re: Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC
Post by: Bit_Happy on April 25, 2014, 01:33:13 AM
How the hell is the OP a Hero member on Bitcointalk and doesn't know how exchanges work?   :o

He/she could be a dormant troll who wakes up each Spring to tell us how much BTC still sucks.
OP: Are you feeling OK now?


Title: Re: Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC
Post by: pekv2 on April 25, 2014, 01:44:57 AM
are you trying to buy more or sell.

i dont get it.

Yea I'm doing a lot better, took dogs for a walk. I apologize for my behavior.

Officially, I wanted to get a btc loan, take the btc, transfer it to MP, load the MP to paypal, load paypal to newegg.

Then on repaying the loan, I officially wanted to buy MP, sell the MP for BTC, pay back the loan.

Places like localbitcoins got their prices jacked $100 than the exchanges asking prices.

Bitmit was the easiest, but they closed. It was on spot dollar for MP. So simple.

Edit:
But fincen closed bitmit.  :-\ So I comprehend that using btc is just plain illegal now.


Title: Re: Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC
Post by: Remember remember the 5th of November on April 25, 2014, 01:47:15 AM
are you trying to buy more or sell.

i dont get it.

Yea I'm doing a lot better, took dogs for a walk. I apologize for my behavior.

Officially, I wanted to get a btc loan, take the btc, transfer it to MP, load the MP to paypal, load paypal to newegg.

Then on repaying the loan, I officially wanted to buy MP, sell the MP for BTC, pay back the loan.

Places like localbitcoins got their prices jacked $100 than the exchanges asking prices.

Bitmit was the easiest, but they closed. It was on spot dollar for MP. So simple.

Edit:
But fincen closed bitmit.  :-\
Then simply opt for the harder, but legal choice and use an exchange like stamp or the other US based ones. Sure, tons of documents to get verified, but hey, it's legal.


Title: Re: Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC
Post by: pekv2 on April 25, 2014, 01:49:51 AM
are you trying to buy more or sell.

i dont get it.

Yea I'm doing a lot better, took dogs for a walk. I apologize for my behavior.

Officially, I wanted to get a btc loan, take the btc, transfer it to MP, load the MP to paypal, load paypal to newegg.

Then on repaying the loan, I officially wanted to buy MP, sell the MP for BTC, pay back the loan.

Places like localbitcoins got their prices jacked $100 than the exchanges asking prices.

Bitmit was the easiest, but they closed. It was on spot dollar for MP. So simple.

Edit:
But fincen closed bitmit.  :-\
Then simply opt for the harder, but legal choice and use an exchange like stamp or the other US based ones. Sure, tons of documents to get verified, but hey, it's legal.

I am no problem being verified with my identity, I just dunno how. banks, wire transfers ect its too hard for me.


Title: Re: Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC
Post by: adamstgBit on April 25, 2014, 01:50:44 AM
or buy wtv it is you want directly with the BTC loan?


Title: Re: Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC
Post by: pekv2 on April 25, 2014, 01:51:31 AM
or buy wtv it is you want directly with the BTC loan?


wtv?


Title: Re: Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC
Post by: adamstgBit on April 25, 2014, 01:53:20 AM
or buy wtv it is you want directly with the BTC loan?


wtv?

its short for "whatever"


Title: Re: Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC
Post by: pekv2 on April 25, 2014, 01:55:02 AM
or buy wtv it is you want directly with the BTC loan?


wtv?

its short for "whatever"

I don understand this part ."or buy wtv it is you want directly with the BTC loan?"


Title: Re: Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC
Post by: adamstgBit on April 25, 2014, 01:56:27 AM
or buy wtv it is you want directly with the BTC loan?


wtv?

its short for "whatever"

I don understand this part ."or buy wtv it is you want directly with the BTC loan?"

you seem to want the buy loan to ultimately buy something on neweggs

i say forget neweggs find whatever it is you want to buy and buy it with BTC



Title: Re: Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC
Post by: pekv2 on April 25, 2014, 01:57:49 AM
or buy wtv it is you want directly with the BTC loan?


wtv?

its short for "whatever"

I don understand this part ."or buy wtv it is you want directly with the BTC loan?"

you seem to want the buy loan to ultimately buy something on neweggs

i say forget neweggs find whatever it is you want to buy and buy it with BTC



Oh, yea, what I want need, newegg only carrys :( .


Title: Re: Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC
Post by: ChuckBuck on April 25, 2014, 02:09:19 AM
or buy wtv it is you want directly with the BTC loan?


wtv?

its short for "whatever"

I don understand this part ."or buy wtv it is you want directly with the BTC loan?"

you seem to want the buy loan to ultimately buy something on neweggs

i say forget neweggs find whatever it is you want to buy and buy it with BTC



Oh, yea, what I want need, newegg only carrys :( .

Doesn't Tigerdirect and Overstock have Bitcoin as a payment option?

Pretty sure whatever you're looking for can be had in one of these online stores.

Also there's this store:

https://cryptothrift.com/


Title: Re: Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC
Post by: adamstgBit on April 25, 2014, 02:11:51 AM
also look at this.
https://cryptothrift.com/auctions/gift-cards/newegg-com-20-00-gift-card/


Title: Re: Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC
Post by: Remember remember the 5th of November on April 25, 2014, 02:12:59 AM
or buy wtv it is you want directly with the BTC loan?


wtv?

its short for "whatever"
Perhaps it'd be wiser if you refrained from using abbreviations too much, perhaps even start sentences with a capital letter?


Title: Re: Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC
Post by: adamstgBit on April 25, 2014, 02:16:30 AM
or buy wtv it is you want directly with the BTC loan?


wtv?

its short for "whatever"
Perhaps it'd be wiser if you refrained from using abbreviations too much, perhaps even start sentences with a capital letter?

http://www.my-favorite-coloring.net/Images/Large/Famous-characters-Troll-face-Okay-meme-face-139908.png


Title: Re: Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC
Post by: fearcoka on April 25, 2014, 02:16:42 AM
Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC.

There are no legal ways of converting the currency to USD or USD to BTC without going to prison.

/venting

I really want to spill tears I am so frustrated.

Yes there is. check out my sig. You use virwox and sell btc for SLL. Convert those and youre golden


Title: Re: Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC
Post by: pekv2 on April 25, 2014, 02:16:50 AM
Ok, say like I get loan, goto tiger direct get what I need. How do I pay back the loan as in USD>BTC legally easily and quick?

ionno.

Couple years ago it was just easy.


Title: Re: Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC
Post by: adamstgBit on April 25, 2014, 02:25:27 AM
Ok, say like I get loan, goto tiger direct get what I need. How do I pay back the loan as in USD>BTC legally easily and quick?

ionno.

Couple years ago it was just easy.

you sign up to coinbase, transfer funds and buy.

this will require that you know your bank numbers and stuff, you should be able to find all that info on a check.

https://coinbase.com/buy-bitcoin


Title: Re: Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC
Post by: pekv2 on April 25, 2014, 02:29:20 AM
Ok, say like I get loan, goto tiger direct get what I need. How do I pay back the loan as in USD>BTC legally easily and quick?

ionno.

Couple years ago it was just easy.

you sign up to coinbase, transfer funds and buy.

this will require that you know your bank numbers and stuff, you should be able to find all that info on a check.

https://coinbase.com/buy-bitcoin

Isn't this very dangerous? Insecure? Linking bank accounts.


Title: Re: Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC
Post by: adamstgBit on April 25, 2014, 02:39:36 AM
Ok, say like I get loan, goto tiger direct get what I need. How do I pay back the loan as in USD>BTC legally easily and quick?

ionno.

Couple years ago it was just easy.

you sign up to coinbase, transfer funds and buy.

this will require that you know your bank numbers and stuff, you should be able to find all that info on a check.

https://coinbase.com/buy-bitcoin

Isn't this very dangerous? Insecure? Linking bank accounts.

its over https, coinbase is a proven system.

you'll be fine.



Title: Re: Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC
Post by: pekv2 on April 25, 2014, 02:41:08 AM
Ok, say like I get loan, goto tiger direct get what I need. How do I pay back the loan as in USD>BTC legally easily and quick?

ionno.

Couple years ago it was just easy.

you sign up to coinbase, transfer funds and buy.

this will require that you know your bank numbers and stuff, you should be able to find all that info on a check.

https://coinbase.com/buy-bitcoin

Isn't this very dangerous? Insecure? Linking bank accounts.

its over https, coinbase is a proven system.

you'll be fine.



I just talked to some family members. They said you'll be able to pull money out of my account without my permission, and empty me out. And one of them does booking.


Title: Re: Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC
Post by: ChuckBuck on April 25, 2014, 03:08:25 AM
Ok, say like I get loan, goto tiger direct get what I need. How do I pay back the loan as in USD>BTC legally easily and quick?

ionno.

Couple years ago it was just easy.

you sign up to coinbase, transfer funds and buy.

this will require that you know your bank numbers and stuff, you should be able to find all that info on a check.

https://coinbase.com/buy-bitcoin

Isn't this very dangerous? Insecure? Linking bank accounts.

its over https, coinbase is a proven system.

you'll be fine.



I just talked to some family members. They said you'll be able to pull money out of my account without my permission, and empty me out. And one of them does booking.

Not if you have 2 Factor Authentication enabled!   8)

(Does Eddie Murphy barbershop Old Jewish dude from Coming to America voice) Ah HAH! Ah HAH!


Title: Re: Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC
Post by: pekv2 on April 25, 2014, 03:13:59 AM
Not if you have 2 Factor Authentication enabled!   8)

What's that have to do with the exchange pulling out money of my bank account without my permission?



Title: Re: Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC
Post by: wachtwoord on April 25, 2014, 03:18:45 AM
Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC.


My Bitcoins are also going nowhere as they mostly remain in the addresses I left them in. I find this a desirable trait.


Title: Re: Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC
Post by: ChuckBuck on April 25, 2014, 03:21:52 AM
Not if you have 2 Factor Authentication enabled!   8)

What's that have to do with the exchange pulling out money of my bank account without my permission?



Coinbase isn't an exchange.  When you buy coins from them, it's from their own wallets.

If you need anymore proof of Coinbase's solvency, some words from the Godfather himself:

http://antonopoulos.com/2014/02/25/coinbase-review/

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On Monday February 24th, 2014 I was invited to the offices of Coinbase in San Francisco, as part of a voluntary cross-industry effort to provide independent review of the security of Coinbase customer funds. I am the Chief Security Officer at Blockchain, a bitcoin company that offers a web-wallet service that competes with some of Coinbase’s services. Prior to this day, I had not been to Coinbase’s offices, nor did I have any prior professional relationship with Coinbase. My visit was as an independent security expert with no financial control or interest in Coinbase. My goal during this visit was to validate the existence and security of customer funds.

During my visit, I met with the CEO and other executives and was presented with information on the mechanisms Coinbase uses to secure customer funds from theft, including their cold storage system and operating process.

I was shown an internal reporting tool used by Coinbase to verify total customer funds and the allocation of funds between the “hot wallet” and “cold storage” and funds in transit. Coinbase shared their process and technical details for cold storage, including their process to ensure funds cannot be retrieved from cold storage without the assembly of multiple keys controlled by different people.

While Coinbase publicly states that up to 97% of customer funds are in cold storage, at the time of my visit, their internal reporting tool showed that the cold storage system contained 98.8% of customer funds. To confirm for myself that these funds were in the cold storage system, I looked up the balance each of the cold storage addresses against the public blockchain, using an external site. The balance recorded on the public blockchain ledger for each of the addresses matched the balance recorded in Coinbase’s accounting system.

Although the accounting system and the blockchain balances appeared to match, I wanted to confirm that these addresses were actually controlled by Coinbase, thereby ensuring they controlled the funds. I randomly selected one of the cold storage addresses and requested that a transaction be signed to prove ownership of the address. This was not pre-arranged nor was there any warning that I would make such a request. Coinbase complied with my request and produced a transaction that proved they owned the cold storage address of my choosing.

Based on what I observed during my visit and my experience in security, it appears that the Coinbase system contains the expected funds and their cold storage system and process appear to be operating according to security best practices.

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Title: Re: Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC
Post by: pekv2 on April 25, 2014, 03:27:11 AM
Can this still happen? "be able to pull money out of my account without my permission, and empty me out."


Title: Re: Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC
Post by: ChuckBuck on April 25, 2014, 03:28:46 AM
Can this still happen? "be able to pull money out of my account without my permission, and empty me out."

Not if you use Bitsimple or Coinbase.


Title: Re: Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC
Post by: pekv2 on April 25, 2014, 03:31:17 AM
Can this still happen? "be able to pull money out of my account without my permission, and empty me out."

Not if you use Bitsimple or Coinbase.

Yea i'll pass on the bank thing, if one can do it, any others can.

And now btc is going no where.


Title: Re: Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC
Post by: Justin00 on April 25, 2014, 03:47:17 AM
lol i think he is talking about a 'direct debit'
i.e they pull money out of your bank account.. after you verify/sign it in some way at the start.

but yeah you are right.. in theory they could rob you blind.
as could any company who does it.

i have direct debit with my car insurance, health insurance etc etc.. you kind of need to trust the company won't do that.


Title: Re: Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC
Post by: Driv3n on April 25, 2014, 03:52:29 AM
Like others have said Coinbase and Bitsimple are easy, safe, legal options.


Title: Re: Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC
Post by: frankenmint on April 25, 2014, 03:52:43 AM
lol i think he is talking about a 'direct debit'
i.e they pull money out of your bank account.. after you verify/sign it in some way at the start.

but yeah you are right.. in theory they could rob you blind.
as could any company who does it.

i have direct debit with my car insurance, health insurance etc etc.. you kind of need to trust the company won't do that.


DONT TRUST MERCURY INSURANCE they upped my rates with no notification and refuse to cancel direct payments without a faxed letter - who uses FAX machines anymore???  what is this, 1994?


Title: Re: Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC
Post by: Bit_Happy on April 25, 2014, 03:57:58 AM
....
And now btc is going no where.

You must be right, if you say that enough times...


Title: Re: Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC
Post by: Justin00 on April 25, 2014, 04:00:59 AM
hmm are they even allowed to do that on a direct debit ?
though the initial authorization is for X-$ and Y-years/months

lol i think he is talking about a 'direct debit'
i.e they pull money out of your bank account.. after you verify/sign it in some way at the start.

but yeah you are right.. in theory they could rob you blind.
as could any company who does it.

i have direct debit with my car insurance, health insurance etc etc.. you kind of need to trust the company won't do that.


DONT TRUST MERCURY INSURANCE they upped my rates with no notification and refuse to cancel direct payments without a faxed letter - who uses FAX machines anymore???  what is this, 1994?


Title: Re: Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC
Post by: bzminer on April 25, 2014, 04:34:03 AM
Can this still happen? "be able to pull money out of my account without my permission, and empty me out."

Not if you use Bitsimple or Coinbase.

Yea i'll pass on the bank thing, if one can do it, any others can.

And now btc is going no where.

I tend to agree. There is still no easy way to do it at the moment.


Title: Re: Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC
Post by: pekv2 on April 25, 2014, 11:07:17 AM
I had some good sleep, I am now unfrustrated and feel fresh.

hmm are they even allowed to do that on a direct debit ?
though the initial authorization is for X-$ and Y-years/months


Talked to a family member again just now about direct debit. Their opinion was, they don't think that's safe either. Think about it "direct debit" they have access to your debit info once you submit. Unless someone can clarify how it is safe and they cannot charge the card when ever they feel like it.

Can this still happen? "be able to pull money out of my account without my permission, and empty me out."

Not if you use Bitsimple or Coinbase.

Yea i'll pass on the bank thing, if one can do it, any others can.

And now btc is going no where.

I tend to agree. There is still no easy way to do it at the moment.

Yup it's true atm btc is very hard and to trust someone you don't know with bank accounts, it is very unsafe. It's different if you're walmart, unless they get a security breach like target.


Title: Re: Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC
Post by: Justin00 on April 25, 2014, 11:20:42 AM
Whenever I've set one up on my bank account or my credit card I've had to sign a form, or agree to an online form saying I agree for them to take out what ever amount and what ever frequency; however I am 100% certain they *could* take out as much as they like, as you said - but its theft. They wouldn't be able to umm and errr about it, its theft. and not fairy world bitcoin theft, its actual theft theft where your bank would probably get invovled and help you.

Paypal uses direct debit to take money out of your bank account if you want it to..

its a bit of a tricky question.. on the one hand I wouldn't feel comfortable letting some of these bitcoin "companies" to direct debit my account but on the other hand if anything did go missing it would be alot easier to charge files against/dispute/get back $$ than bitcoin would be.

anyways if your gut instinct is to not use it, dont use it..

I had some good sleep, I am now unfrustrated and feel fresh.

hmm are they even allowed to do that on a direct debit ?
though the initial authorization is for X-$ and Y-years/months


Talked to a family member again just now about direct debit. Their opinion was, they don't think that's safe either. Think about it "direct debit" they have access to your debit info once you submit. Unless someone can clarify how it is safe and they cannot charge the card when ever they feel like it.

Can this still happen? "be able to pull money out of my account without my permission, and empty me out."

Not if you use Bitsimple or Coinbase.

Yea i'll pass on the bank thing, if one can do it, any others can.

And now btc is going no where.

I tend to agree. There is still no easy way to do it at the moment.

Yup it's true atm btc is very hard and to trust someone you don't know with bank accounts, it is very unsafe. It's different if you're walmart, unless they get a security breach like target.


Title: Re: Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC
Post by: pekv2 on April 25, 2014, 11:26:08 AM
I came up with a thought. Make a secondary separate bank account? And have that strictly for BTC transfers "exchanges" and only keep limited amount of like say, 20 bucks in there. Only deposit in when you need to transfer.

^
Is this a great way to stay secure and not link them to your main bank account.

Edit:
This is probably the best solution I am guessing.


Title: Re: Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC
Post by: MarketNeutral on April 25, 2014, 01:10:55 PM
1) Register with bitsimple

2) send a wire transfer from your bank account to your bitsimple account per bitsimple's instructions
     -have bitsimple's official SC office address and phone number on hand, as some banks may ask for that information for the wire transfer
     -know the reason for the wire transfer, as some banks will ask you to inform them of the reason for the wire transfer, "Purchase order" or something similar should suffice

3) have real bitcoins in your wallet without ACH transfers or linking your bank account in a manner that would give bitsimple authority to withdraw funds


There are other options, as well, but assuming the OP isn't trolling, he needs to assume at least some risk. C'est la vie.


Title: Re: Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC
Post by: pekv2 on April 25, 2014, 03:01:14 PM
1) Register with bitsimple

2) send a wire transfer from your bank account to your bitsimple account per bitsimple's instructions
     -have bitsimple's official SC office address and phone number on hand, as some banks may ask for that information for the wire transfer
     -know the reason for the wire transfer, as some banks will ask you to inform them of the reason for the wire transfer, "Purchase order" or something similar should suffice

3) have real bitcoins in your wallet without ACH transfers or linking your bank account in a manner that would give bitsimple authority to withdraw funds


There are other options, as well, but assuming the OP isn't trolling, he needs to assume at least some risk. C'est la vie.

Omg that seems simple and much more secure. Thank you! for the explanation of a safer way to deal with Banks > BTC.

That's awesome.

I will definitely use bitcoins once like newegg accepts them. That's simple as hell.

Edit:
And donations!

I'll try to get some to bitcointalk forums.

Edit2:

It was just the matter of me learning a little bit, and it's hard to learn on my own. Thank you all.


Title: Re: [SOLVED]Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC
Post by: pekv2 on April 25, 2014, 04:08:21 PM
Now just waiting for verifications bitsimple > paypal. Then I think I need to verify paypal to my bank account, correct? for Bitsimple to be verified to paypal?


Title: Re: [SOLVED]Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC
Post by: wachtwoord on April 25, 2014, 04:58:32 PM
Now just waiting for verifications bitsimple > paypal. Then I think I need to verify paypal to my bank account, correct? for Bitsimple to be verified to paypal?

I'm glad you figured it out. Just for future reference, the only reason myself and others joked around a little was the over-the-top way you presented your statement (hidden question). If you had simply asked I can guarantee you would have been helped more directly :)

Good luck!


Title: Re: [SOLVED]Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC
Post by: pekv2 on April 25, 2014, 05:11:34 PM
Now just waiting for verifications bitsimple > paypal. Then I think I need to verify paypal to my bank account, correct? for Bitsimple to be verified to paypal?

I'm glad you figured it out. Just for future reference, the only reason myself and others joked around a little was the over-the-top way you presented your statement (hidden question). If you had simply asked I can guarantee you would have been helped more directly :)

Good luck!

Thanks man! I get out of hand and get so frustrated I know of no other way i guess. I'm weird.

But as the ? still remains does paypal have to be verified through bank account or any other means for bitsimple to be verified through paypal?


Title: Re: [SOLVED]Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC
Post by: pekv2 on April 27, 2014, 06:38:57 AM
Now just waiting for verifications bitsimple > paypal. Then I think I need to verify paypal to my bank account, correct? for Bitsimple to be verified to paypal?

I'm glad you figured it out. Just for future reference, the only reason myself and others joked around a little was the over-the-top way you presented your statement (hidden question). If you had simply asked I can guarantee you would have been helped more directly :)

Good luck!

Thanks man! I get out of hand and get so frustrated I know of no other way i guess. I'm weird.

But as the ? still remains does paypal have to be verified through bank account or any other means for bitsimple to be verified through paypal?

It does not. Just bitsimple>paypal is suffice. I'm verified there n all now.


Title: Re: [SOLVED]Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC
Post by: nicked on April 27, 2014, 10:26:06 PM
I'm sorry but, this was very painful to read!


Title: Re: [SOLVED]Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC
Post by: pekv2 on April 27, 2014, 10:50:42 PM
I'm sorry but, this was very painful to read!

Apologize for that, I have a hard time understanding and get frustrated very easily and fast.


Title: Re: Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC
Post by: CoinBreader on May 01, 2014, 01:13:57 AM
How the hell is the OP a Hero member on Bitcointalk and doesn't know how exchanges work?   :o

+1 goof god !  :D


Title: Re: Bitcoins are going no where I am frustrated with BTC
Post by: Hash72 on May 03, 2014, 06:38:51 AM
1) Register with bitsimple

2) send a wire transfer from your bank account to your bitsimple account per bitsimple's instructions
     -have bitsimple's official SC office address and phone number on hand, as some banks may ask for that information for the wire transfer
     -know the reason for the wire transfer, as some banks will ask you to inform them of the reason for the wire transfer, "Purchase order" or something similar should suffice

3) have real bitcoins in your wallet without ACH transfers or linking your bank account in a manner that would give bitsimple authority to withdraw funds


There are other options, as well, but assuming the OP isn't trolling, he needs to assume at least some risk. C'est la vie.

Omg that seems simple and much more secure. Thank you! for the explanation of a safer way to deal with Banks > BTC.

That's awesome.

I will definitely use bitcoins once like newegg accepts them. That's simple as hell.

Edit:
And donations!

I'll try to get some to bitcointalk forums.

Edit2:

It was just the matter of me learning a little bit, and it's hard to learn on my own. Thank you all.

As always there is always a solution for any problems we face ..Glad that you figured it out thanks