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Title: [SELL] BtcJam arbitrations I won
Post by: bitpop on May 01, 2014, 06:54:59 AM
I have 3 arbitrations I won, about .6 btc each. I don't know how to collect. They include the borrowers information. Anyone interested in buying the debt? Borrowers are in America.

I have a couple more, 1 borrower had 2 loans.

All have facebook info


Title: Re: [SELL] BtcJam arbitrations I won
Post by: pbleak on May 11, 2014, 09:25:13 PM
I'm curious enough, but why can you not just collect yourself? Is there some issue stopping you? I mean surely there is somewhere this process is outlined?



Title: Re: [SELL] BtcJam arbitrations I won
Post by: bitpop on May 11, 2014, 09:31:26 PM
No I have no clue what to do


Title: Re: [SELL] BtcJam arbitrations I won
Post by: pbleak on May 11, 2014, 09:38:10 PM
OK I'll do some research. I actually never followed up on the one btcjam I could have (but it was a smaller amount), but I might consider this worth doing. Will get to you as soon as I can.


Title: Re: [SELL] BtcJam arbitrations I won
Post by: Vod on May 12, 2014, 01:36:12 AM
Borrowers are in America.

Any of those in Canada?


Title: Re: [SELL] BtcJam arbitrations I won
Post by: pbleak on May 12, 2014, 10:45:03 AM
Did you ever have any luck with arbitration recouping Vod?


Title: Re: [SELL] BtcJam arbitrations I won
Post by: bitpop on May 12, 2014, 11:48:26 AM
Borrowers are in America.

Any of those in Canada?

No they all seem usa

I can show them to you if you want


Title: Re: [SELL] BtcJam arbitrations I won
Post by: bitpop on May 12, 2014, 12:31:35 PM
Take a look

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=605994.0


Title: Re: [SELL] BtcJam arbitrations I won
Post by: Vod on May 12, 2014, 02:27:59 PM
Did you ever have any luck with arbitration recouping Vod?

I haven't had to yet.  And I could only deal with cases in Canada.   :-\


Title: Re: [SELL] BtcJam arbitrations I won
Post by: pbleak on May 20, 2014, 10:22:41 PM
These guys are operating on the BTJam investments Facebook group: http://www.coindebtcollection.com/

Might be worth a look. See what you make of them anyway.


Title: Re: [SELL] BtcJam arbitrations I won
Post by: bitpop on May 21, 2014, 06:30:29 AM
These guys are operating on the BTJam investments Facebook group: http://www.coindebtcollection.com/

Might be worth a look. See what you make of them anyway.

Thanks


Title: Re: [SELL] BtcJam arbitrations I won
Post by: byt411 on June 05, 2014, 08:22:19 PM
I would also like to know what to do with the Arbitration Award. Do I have to go to the police or something, and make them arrest the scammer?
I lost a tiny amount of BTC on BTCJam, got awarded, and I'd like to know how to get the money back.


Title: Re: [SELL] BtcJam arbitrations I won
Post by: Killerloop on June 05, 2014, 09:24:26 PM
I would also like to know what to do with the Arbitration Award. Do I have to go to the police or something, and make them arrest the scammer?

You aren't going to jail for defaulting on loans.

You have proof of loan, proof of debt, personal information of the borrower and an arbitration from a recognized third party. Each country handles things differently... what happens in the USA? Bailiffs? Debt collection agencies?

For more benefit: http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/money_and_tax/personal_finance/debt/court_procedures.html


Title: Re: [SELL] BtcJam arbitrations I won
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on June 05, 2014, 09:29:32 PM
I can track people down, parents relatives, liens, I can also advice you on how to go about collecting your funds. I work for a company that does in house finance and we deal with these sorts of things all the time.

I will dox a person to show my what I can do if you give me a couple of minutes. Next ones will cost you :)


Title: Re: [SELL] BtcJam arbitrations I won
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on June 05, 2014, 09:34:47 PM
Name:James Peyatt
Age:31
Address: 1609 Fairlawn Dr
Hermitage, PA 16148    <----------------------- Recent address
(Most recent address was added on: 2/2013)
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Criminal Records:Click here to run check
Previous Addresses:
1609 Fairlawn Dr
Hermitage, PA 16148-1958

41 Maplelawn St SE
Grand Rapids, MI 49548-3340

6437 Trumbull Ave Hubbard
Hubbard, OH 44425-2465

41 Maplelawn St SE
Grand Rapids, MI 49548-3340

41 Maplelawn St SE
Grand Rapids, MI 49548-3340

Name Appears As:James E Peyatt, James E Peyatt Jr, James Edward Peyatt, James Edward Peyatt Jr, James Peyatt Jr, Jim Peyatt
Possible Relatives:James Edward Peyatt Sr, Jason S Peyatt, Shirl D Peyatt, Stephanie M Peyatt
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Date of Birth
6/1982
Phone Number
724-981-1549   <------ Last know number of record
Additional Phone Numbers
616-532-5220
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1 Criminal Record showing
Bankruptcies (1)
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Title: Re: [SELL] BtcJam arbitrations I won
Post by: bitpop on June 06, 2014, 06:24:09 AM
Looks like he pulled a bankruptcy


Title: Re: [SELL] BtcJam arbitrations I won
Post by: ebritno on June 21, 2014, 09:46:59 AM
Sorry to revive this, but I have been researching this and here is a general outline of the processes. I am not a lawyer. This should put many in the right direction, but it would take an idiot to neglect to fact check this.

1. Upon receiving the award, both parties are notified.

2. As the award winner you must give ample time for the other party to pay, this is usually 30 days.
   You may wish to POLITELY, inform the other party with a written letter (that you will copy, sign, and send) of their obligation to pay, or at least to try to pay.

3a. If the defaulter does not try to work with you, you will need to petition a state court to confirm your award. You will want to petition a court that has jurisdiction over the defaulter (such as the court of the state they live in).
     In case you do not know, confirmation (in this context) is the process of a judge reviewing the award and then passing a judgement on it.
     In case you do not know, petition (in this context) is a formal written document asking the court to act in some way. Such as to confirm something.
     If a judgement is passed on your award, it will be legally binding.
     If your award is approved by the courts, they will issue what is called a "fi fa", which will charge the sheriff with seizing and liquidating the assets of the defaulter.
     Confirmation of arbitration awards is generally regarded as procedural, and if everything was done correctly it should be relatively painless to pursue.

3b. Many states have a specific application you can fill out to petition the courts. They may also require additional information such as (but not limited too):
     1. Proof that the other party was informed that you would petition the courts.
     2. A copy of the Arbitration agreement.
     3. A copy of the Arbitration Award.
     4. An affidavit regarding the arbitration award (2-4 are available for a $35 fee at arb-net).
     5. A Proposed Order, telling a court what relief you are seeking.
     6. A memorandum of law, basically stating legal precedent for why the judge should confirm.
     7. Possibly others...

Since arb-net is a binding arbitration, and US law caters to arbitration willingly, you should have no problem getting a a judgement on your award, provided you follow all the steps required of you.

Also, many UN nations have ratified several treaties upholding arbitration, and you may find it easily enforceable internationally as well.

3c. Some applications to petition a court for confirmation of your award may require an additional fee as well. This will vary from state to state.

3d. Do not forget to consider time, energy, and postage when pursuing your award.

3d. You may have to physically appear before the court, but this is not always the case.

3e. Some states will allow you to claim the expenditures that you make to confirm your award, as part of your award. This may not always be the case, do be careful. You don't want to lose your award for daring to give a scam-er what they deserve.

3g. You need to get the award confirmed within a year of receiving it. If not, you may lose the ability to confirm it due to federal law.

4. It will generally take 2 -14 months before you will receive your money once the process has started.

Interesting note: A judgement is entered into the public record, which credit companies check. This process will likely harm the defaulters credit score for 5-10 years.

Other note: With the amount of time and energy involved, it may not be worth pursuing for anything less than a couple hundred dollars.

Also: You probably will not need a lawyer (you can represent your self with a petition), but you might if they try to contest it with their own representation.

Lastly: statistically most defaulters will try to accommodate once courts enter the conversation. It maybe worth pursuing, at least to a point, even if not 100%.

I hope this helps some people.


Title: Re: [SELL] BtcJam arbitrations I won
Post by: bitpop on June 21, 2014, 11:12:18 AM
Thanks all are out of state and I don't think I can file without going there or at least hiring a lawyer. Hence, I'm looking for someone who knows what they're doing to just buy the debt.


Title: Re: [SELL] BtcJam arbitrations I won
Post by: Ron~Popeil on July 13, 2014, 10:56:41 PM
Thanks all are out of state and I don't think I can file without going there or at least hiring a lawyer. Hence, I'm looking for someone who knows what they're doing to just buy the debt.

How much are you asking for each one?


Title: Re: [SELL] BtcJam arbitrations I won
Post by: bitpop on July 13, 2014, 11:55:44 PM
Thanks all are out of state and I don't think I can file without going there or at least hiring a lawyer. Hence, I'm looking for someone who knows what they're doing to just buy the debt.

How much are you asking for each one?

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