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Economy => Computer hardware => Topic started by: Bargraphics on May 09, 2014, 05:56:12 PM



Title: [WTS] 50TH - Available Instantly - $2.00/GH [San Diego, CA]
Post by: Bargraphics on May 09, 2014, 05:56:12 PM
I have 50TH of Bitfury equipment that is already running and hosted. Just have to switch the mining address over.

Other ventures have shown up that I would like to pursue and I'm willing to part with this portion of my overall hardware.


I'm looking for $2.00/GH + Hosting

Hosting is locked into a contract until the end of June. Hosting cost will be $2,700 per 10TH. After June you can keep it at the DC or move it.

I can break this down into three 10TH groups if needed. The hashrate ordered is minimum, you will likely receive a bit over that.
This includes the following
  • Complete ownership of the gear
  • 3x 750W PSUs per Rig. (No buying extra cables or PSUs)
  • No shipping cost
  • No Setup cost for the Datacenter (Already paid)


This gear is available instantly and will be switched on any Weekday.

Please PM with any serious offers or questions.

Some Pictures - http://619mining.com/


https://i.imgur.com/eE6BCrh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/lO40VPt.jpg


Title: Re: 30TH - Hosted Gear - Available Instantly
Post by: noviapriani on May 09, 2014, 10:18:03 PM
thats kinda expensice, you can now get 1th for 3500, why rent when you can buy, unless you gonna cut of hosting and electricity bill, it might be worth it.


Title: Re: 30TH - Hosted Gear - Available Instantly
Post by: daddyfatsax on May 09, 2014, 11:15:24 PM
1 TH/S for $3500 and it has 3 x 750 W PSU's? Thats a lot of juice. 


Title: Re: 30TH - Hosted Gear - Available Instantly
Post by: Bargraphics on May 10, 2014, 12:08:41 AM
thats kinda expensice, you can now get 1th for 3500, why rent when you can buy, unless you gonna cut of hosting and electricity bill, it might be worth it.


This isn't renting, this is buying.

Shipping costs + PSU Costs + Setting up Time/Shipping time would eat away at your profits. This is an already setup and running solution that comes with 3 x 750W PSUs (Again you own everything)


1 TH/S for $3500 and it has 3 x 750 W PSU's? Thats a lot of juice. 

We got a huge discount on the 750W PSUs versus using exactly what we needed. These rigs only consume 1W/GH Maximum.


Title: Re: 30TH - Hosted Gear - Available Instantly
Post by: apee on May 10, 2014, 01:51:19 AM
So we purchase, then if change our mind hosting current location, you`ll ship the mining rig?

Multiple questions that needs to be addressed.

1. Where is the current location?
2. Escrow isnt mentioned?

You got some sort of website?

Anyone who is interested, please report back here and update that you have been paid for the hashes paid for.


Title: Re: 30TH - Hosted Gear - Available Instantly
Post by: Bargraphics on May 10, 2014, 04:47:24 AM
So we purchase, then if change our mind hosting current location, you`ll ship the mining rig?

Multiple questions that needs to be addressed.

1. Where is the current location?
2. Escrow isnt mentioned?

You got some sort of website?

Anyone who is interested, please report back here and update that you have been paid for the hashes paid for.

1. I won't give a specific location here but it's in San Diego, CA
2. I'm willing to work with the buyer with however they choose to purchase. Any fees will be paid by the buyer.


There isn't a website, this isn't a cloudhashing solution.
Once the purchase was made I would manually change the pool information in the SD cards on the RPis and give you ssh access to the rigs.
Your point of contact would be the datacenter from that point forward and you would likely have a signed agreement.
If you wanted to take delivery of the hardware you would have to talk with the datacenter as I do not want to deal with shipping or the costs associated with it.


Title: Re: 30TH - Hosted Gear - Available Instantly
Post by: lapah on May 10, 2014, 05:52:49 AM
Can you tell me how this process would work.

I`m fairly new to this, having others hosting and stuff.


Title: Re: 30TH - Hosted Gear - Available Instantly
Post by: Bargraphics on May 10, 2014, 08:14:26 AM
Can you tell me how this process would work.

I`m fairly new to this, having others hosting and stuff.


Sure,

Currently they are all mining on GHash.io so I would recommend using that pool (They seem to run best on it).

Next you would provide a username for me to tell the miners where to mine at. (Create an Account at GHash.io and they will provide you with this)

That's pretty much it, once the miners are changed you will see them hashing on your account when you log in.

I would also get you in contact with the Datacenter to get you up to date on hosting/costs/agreements.

They would then set you up with SSH access if needed.

Sit back and mine! The equipment shouldn't go down but if you ever have an issue you would just contact the Datacenter and they would take care of it for you.


It's a very simple process :)


Title: Re: 30TH - Hosted Gear - Available Instantly
Post by: nitehawk on May 10, 2014, 02:39:53 PM
just doing quick math your asking 3500/th  the same speed  can be had for 2300ish .. granted you have to power them and such.. but for comparison.. cex.io is 3105 for the same speed without the hosting speed...

am i missing something? why pay the premium ?
I'm from san diego i'm going to need to know the exact location... there's a difference between a data center in say CLMT than one  being run outta someones house near skyline park ....


Title: Re: 30TH - Hosted Gear - Available Instantly
Post by: Bargraphics on May 10, 2014, 03:06:33 PM
just doing quick math your asking 3500/th  the same speed  can be had for 2300ish .. granted you have to power them and such.. but for comparison.. cex.io is 3105 for the same speed without the hosting speed...

am i missing something? why pay the premium ?
I'm from san diego i'm going to need to know the exact location... there's a difference between a data center in say CLMT than one  being run outta someones house near skyline park ....

I posted pictures, as you can see it is a Datacenter and not someones house.... I won't be giving out the location on the board. If you are truly interested then PM me.

You can see the raised floor and racks :/



Title: Re: 30TH - Hosted Gear - Available Instantly
Post by: nitehawk on May 10, 2014, 08:59:42 PM
Ok if the datacenters not in your house then i fail to understand how saying the city or company is an issue ... Other miners in the area might want to use them too...  If you weren't asking for 100k+ I wouldn't have cared as much but ok to each there own

But let me ask you why should I pay you 12k more and a monthly service bill vs cex.io or better yet when your prohibiting people from doing due diligence against the "datacenter"  there's nothing really stoping you from taking 105k charming the mining over then calling the datacenter  and demanding the equipment no way of knowing if the datacenter will even allow transfer of ownership or if they will even honor the same rates your paying.... Again it's not like your asking for chump change



Title: Re: 30TH - Hosted Gear - Available Instantly
Post by: Bargraphics on May 11, 2014, 05:22:16 AM
Ok if the datacenters not in your house then i fail to understand how saying the city or company is an issue ... Other miners in the area might want to use them too...  If you weren't asking for 100k+ I wouldn't have cared as much but ok to each there own

But let me ask you why should I pay you 12k more and a monthly service bill vs cex.io or better yet when your prohibiting people from doing due diligence against the "datacenter"  there's nothing really stoping you from taking 105k charming the mining over then calling the datacenter  and demanding the equipment no way of knowing if the datacenter will even allow transfer of ownership or if they will even honor the same rates your paying.... Again it's not like your asking for chump change


Any serious buyer would have already PM'd me and we would have worked out details.
I specifically said
I won't be giving out the location on the board. If you are truly interested then PM me.

I have no problem disclosing the location to serious buyers to do their due diligence. I would even get you in contact with the DC owner.

If you are interested in hosting gear I can also help you with that by getting you in contact with the DC owner.

You seem to be making up problems that don't exist :/


As far as the price discrepancy, most times when there's an interested party they would simply make an offer and use the discrepancy as a point in their argument. Unfortunately I have received no such offer from you, are you an interested buyer? If so please PM me with your offer.


Title: Re: [WTS] 30TH - Available Instantly - $3.25/GH
Post by: Bargraphics on May 12, 2014, 01:28:03 PM
Price reduced to $3.25/GH


Title: Re: [WTS] 30TH - Available Instantly - $3.25/GH
Post by: Killerloop on May 12, 2014, 01:40:48 PM
Price reduced to $3.25/GH

If (when) you drop to at least 2.5$/GH I'd like to make an offer.


Title: Re: [WTS] 30TH - Available Instantly - $3.25/GH
Post by: Bargraphics on May 12, 2014, 02:54:21 PM
Price reduced to $3.25/GH

If (when) you drop to at least 2.5$/GH I'd like to make an offer.

I understand,

There's a misconception about "Price per GH"

The following variables need to be considered.

Do you need anymore wires/psus? Add cost
Is the equipment shipped immediately or is this a "pre-order"? - Minus BTC from day you place order til it's shipped
What is shipping cost? Add cost
What is shipping time? Minus BTC made per day
What is setup time on a large equipment purchase? Minus BTC made per day
What is setup cost as a Datacenter for large equipment purchase? Add cost
Do you have to purchase PDUs? Some Datacenters do not include this in setup. - Add cost
Fine Tuning Rigs to remain stable - Minus BTC made per day
Is your electric bill double because you purchased Ant Miners? - Double Electric Cost per month
Does your DC Bill you extra for the AC used to cool twice the amount of power for the same amount of equipment because you purchased Ant Miners? - Add Cost to hosting


Now even at the end of this, how valuable is your time/stress in dealing with everything above? - Add cost


You can't really host 30TH (Or Really 10TH) in your house. Sure there are exceptions but for the majority of people this is true.

Since BTC is top loaded I think that all of the "Delays" I mentioned above would most likely pay for the higher markup price.


Title: Re: [WTS] 30TH - Available Instantly - $3.25/GH
Post by: Biffa on May 12, 2014, 06:36:42 PM
Rough idea on hosting costs per month per rig?


Title: Re: [WTS] 30TH - Available Instantly - $3.25/GH
Post by: Killerloop on May 12, 2014, 09:15:24 PM
I understand,

There's a misconception about "Price per GH"

The following variables need to be considered.

Do you need anymore wires/psus? Add cost
Is the equipment shipped immediately or is this a "pre-order"? - Minus BTC from day you place order til it's shipped
What is shipping cost? Add cost
What is shipping time? Minus BTC made per day
What is setup time on a large equipment purchase? Minus BTC made per day
What is setup cost as a Datacenter for large equipment purchase? Add cost
Do you have to purchase PDUs? Some Datacenters do not include this in setup. - Add cost
Fine Tuning Rigs to remain stable - Minus BTC made per day
Is your electric bill double because you purchased Ant Miners? - Double Electric Cost per month
Does your DC Bill you extra for the AC used to cool twice the amount of power for the same amount of equipment because you purchased Ant Miners? - Add Cost to hosting


Now even at the end of this, how valuable is your time/stress in dealing with everything above? - Add cost


You can't really host 30TH (Or Really 10TH) in your house. Sure there are exceptions but for the majority of people this is true.

Since BTC is top loaded I think that all of the "Delays" I mentioned above would most likely pay for the higher markup price.

Actually my analysis is cruder, brutal but extremely effective:

1 TH @ your price: 3250$ all inclusive.
1 TH will mine ~5.09 BTC in a year so far with current increases in difficulty.
5.09 BTC is a lot less than 3250$ so investment doesn't even ROI until BTC/USD goes to at least 638.

Regards.


Title: Re: [WTS] 30TH - Available Instantly - $3.25/GH
Post by: Bargraphics on May 12, 2014, 09:25:24 PM
Actually my analysis was far more cruder but effective.

1 TH @ your price: 3500$ all inclusive.
1 TH will mine ~5.09 BTC in a year so far with current increases in difficulty.
5.09 BTC is a lot less than 3500$ so investment doesn't even ROI until BTC/USD goes to at least 700

Regards.



Everyone has their own projects on difficulty, unfortunately most are wrong. A ~50% increase in difficulty/month for a whole year isn't sustainable which is what your calculations tell me you are using.

You are basically saying difficulty will go up to 151 Billion by December which is 17x the Hashrate currently. ~1200PH or 1.2EH. This will never happen at current pricing.

We're going to see a steep decline in hashpower going online percentage wise if BTC stays at the same value. If BTC goes up then equipment retains it's value longer and you can cash out to USD for more but you will also see more miners come online.

My Calculations show at least 9 BTC being earned by a TH today within a year, however I do love when people use the genesis/trade block for their calculations keeps more people out of the game.


Title: Re: [WTS] 30TH - Available Instantly - $3.25/GH
Post by: Killerloop on May 12, 2014, 09:36:12 PM
You are basically saying difficulty will go up to 151 Billion by December which is 17x the Hashrate currently. ~1200PH or 1.2EH. This will never happen at current pricing.

We're going to see a steep decline in hashpower going online percentage wise if BTC stays at the same value. If BTC goes up then equipment retains it's value longer and you can cash out to USD for more but you will also see more miners come online.

My Calculations show at least 9 BTC being earned by a TH today within a year, however I do love when people use the genesis/trade block for their calculations keeps more people out of the game.

You may be right, difficulty increase HAS to and WILL stop. Hardware cannot keep up.
What will happen then it is pure speculation.

Good luck with your sale


Title: Re: [WTS] 30TH - Available Instantly - $3.25/GH
Post by: padrino on May 12, 2014, 09:59:23 PM
Actually my analysis was far more cruder but effective.

1 TH @ your price: 3500$ all inclusive.
1 TH will mine ~5.09 BTC in a year so far with current increases in difficulty.
5.09 BTC is a lot less than 3500$ so investment doesn't even ROI until BTC/USD goes to at least 700

Regards.



Everyone has their own projects on difficulty, unfortunately most are wrong. A ~50% increase in difficulty/month for a whole year isn't sustainable which is what your calculations tell me you are using.

You are basically saying difficulty will go up to 151 Billion by December which is 17x the Hashrate currently. ~1200PH or 1.2EH. This will never happen at current pricing.

We're going to see a steep decline in hashpower going online percentage wise if BTC stays at the same value. If BTC goes up then equipment retains it's value longer and you can cash out to USD for more but you will also see more miners come online.

My Calculations show at least 9 BTC being earned by a TH today within a year, however I do love when people use the genesis/trade block for their calculations keeps more people out of the game.

Funny thing, I heard the exact same thing in 2011, then 2012, and 2013, should i keep going...


Title: Re: [WTS] 30TH - Available Instantly - $3.25/GH
Post by: nitehawk on May 12, 2014, 10:13:22 PM
so again .. whats to stop you from taking the money and calling the datacenter and claiming the equipment?


Title: Re: [WTS] 30TH - Available Instantly - $3.25/GH
Post by: Bargraphics on May 12, 2014, 10:37:56 PM
Funny thing, I heard the exact same thing in 2011, then 2012, and 2013, should i keep going...

Did you invent something better than an ASIC?

We're basically at the forefront of technology now, we're not going from CPUs to GPUs, GPUs to FPGAs, or FPGAs to ASICs.

Logic beats history in this case.

so again .. whats to stop you from taking the money and calling the datacenter and claiming the equipment?

Still confused by your statement but I'll reiterate.

The equipment is mine, so maybe you meant "reclaiming"?
You would have a contract with the datacenter (This means they know it's your equipment and I won't be able to "reclaim it")
I'm open to Escrow if the buyer wants but they pay the fees (Means you get to actually talk to the Datacenter, sign a contract with them, see your units hashing at your address before I receive payment)

I'm not sure how I could make this more secure of a transaction but I'm open to ideas.


Is this not how business is done?


Title: Re: [WTS] 30TH - Available Instantly - $3.25/GH
Post by: crashoveride54902 on May 13, 2014, 05:28:08 AM
Actually my analysis was far more cruder but effective.

1 TH @ your price: 3500$ all inclusive.
1 TH will mine ~5.09 BTC in a year so far with current increases in difficulty.
5.09 BTC is a lot less than 3500$ so investment doesn't even ROI until BTC/USD goes to at least 700

Regards.



Everyone has their own projects on difficulty, unfortunately most are wrong. A ~50% increase in difficulty/month for a whole year isn't sustainable which is what your calculations tell me you are using.

You are basically saying difficulty will go up to 151 Billion by December which is 17x the Hashrate currently. ~1200PH or 1.2EH. This will never happen at current pricing.

We're going to see a steep decline in hashpower going online percentage wise if BTC stays at the same value. If BTC goes up then equipment retains it's value longer and you can cash out to USD for more but you will also see more miners come online.

My Calculations show at least 9 BTC being earned by a TH today within a year, however I do love when people use the genesis/trade block for their calculations keeps more people out of the game.

I like this :D and hope your right....I also wish i had an extra 100k around to buy this :(


Title: Re: [WTS] 30TH - Available Instantly - $3.25/GH
Post by: Bargraphics on May 13, 2014, 10:57:01 AM
I've removed posts by uninterested parties.

I believe I've answered all of the questions presented in this thread. If you are not interested please do not post, if you are interested then PM me or post here and I will contact you.


Thank you!


Title: Re: [WTS] 30TH - Available Instantly - $3.25/GH
Post by: joeventura on May 13, 2014, 12:02:11 PM
Just FYI if anyone is concerned about Bargraphics,
He is  very trustworthy.

Have never heard a negative thing uttered about him.





Title: Re: [WTS] 30TH - Available Instantly - $3.25/GH
Post by: Killerloop on May 13, 2014, 12:12:12 PM
Just FYI if anyone is concerned about Bargraphics,
He is  very trustworthy.

No one is questioning his integrity, just normal price bargaining  :)


Title: Re: [WTS] 30TH - Available Instantly - $3.25/GH
Post by: Bargraphics on May 13, 2014, 12:48:39 PM
Just FYI if anyone is concerned about Bargraphics,
He is  very trustworthy.

No one is questioning his integrity, just normal price bargaining  :)

:) Well I'm trying to make it so you don't even have to question my integrity with Escrow and a third party Datacenter backing up their contract :P

But yes I understand the price bargaining, I'm going to drop the price to $3.00/GH + Hosting right now. BTC or USD, but if BTC it will be at Coinbase price.

Hosting is as follows:

Hosting cost will be $2,700 per 10TH. After June you can keep it at the DC or move it

The Hosting Contract includes the following:
Fully Managed Equipment
Knowledgable support staff
SSH Access
They are also willing to do anything within reason to satisfy any additional requirements you have

I can put you in direct communications with them for parties that are seriously interested.


Title: Re: [WTS] 30TH - Available Instantly - $3.00/GH
Post by: nitehawk on May 13, 2014, 02:05:42 PM
im tired and dont feel like doing math this early in the am . . how much do you pay per month in hosting..


Title: Re: [WTS] 50TH - Available Instantly - $2.00/GH
Post by: Bargraphics on May 19, 2014, 10:26:05 PM
Reduced price to $2.00/GH + $2,700 per 10TH Hosting minimal one month left of contract.


Title: Re: [WTS] 50TH - Available Instantly - $2.00/GH [San Diego, CA]
Post by: Bargraphics on May 20, 2014, 01:59:32 PM
Gear is located in San Diego, CA - Serious Buyers can go visit the gear with prior notice (Need to give name to DC for Access)


Title: Re: [WTS] 50TH - Available Instantly - $2.00/GH
Post by: padrino on May 20, 2014, 02:11:26 PM
Reduced price to $2.00/GH + $2,700 per 10TH Hosting minimal one month left of contract.

Definitely getting closer but with a negative return on the hear even at $2.00 you need to bring it down quite a bit more before you will find serious buyers...


Title: Re: [WTS] 50TH - Available Instantly - $2.00/GH
Post by: Bargraphics on May 20, 2014, 02:19:15 PM
Reduced price to $2.00/GH + $2,700 per 10TH Hosting minimal one month left of contract.

Definitely getting closer but with a negative return on the hear even at $2.00 you need to bring it down quite a bit more before you will find serious buyers...

Hmm, that means anyone purchasing current Spoondolies tech would never ROI yet they are selling out from what I understand :/

AntMiners require 3-5 days of Shipping + PSU purchase + Setup Time. Which makes this pricing fairly competitive even to them (While being 1W/GH less power usage)

I understand the hosting is a little steep but honestly it's only for one month and you could find a new home for these or bargain with the DC. They are your units so you could do whatever you needed with them :).


I may be a little behind on current "pricing" so if I made any mistakes above let me know. I'm simply trying to be competitive.

Unfortunately it only will go down from here at current pricing per week as I earn Bitcoins on it.


Title: Re: [WTS] 50TH - Available Instantly - $2.00/GH
Post by: kano on May 25, 2014, 05:13:33 PM
Reduced price to $2.00/GH + $2,700 per 10TH Hosting minimal one month left of contract.

Definitely getting closer but with a negative return on the hear even at $2.00 you need to bring it down quite a bit more before you will find serious buyers...

Hmm, that means anyone purchasing current Spoondolies tech would never ROI yet they are selling out from what I understand :/

...
Correct.


Title: Re: [WTS] 50TH - Available Instantly - $2.00/GH [San Diego, CA]
Post by: samsonn25 on May 25, 2014, 06:03:01 PM
Spoon doilies are too expensive.  People are paying because they are under the illusion greater efficiency per watt is worth it.   However the useful life expectancy of a miner is less than 90 days.  Their yukon pre order for august will come out too late however much they lower price or efficiency of the set up.


Title: Re: [WTS] 30TH - Available Instantly - $3.00/GH
Post by: chadwickx16 on May 27, 2014, 10:31:08 PM
im tired and dont feel like doing math this early in the am . . how much do you pay per month in hosting..

I'm curious as to what you pay too...

Mainly to make sure I'm not overpaying at my DC.


Title: Re: [WTS] 30TH - Available Instantly - $3.00/GH
Post by: crashoveride54902 on May 27, 2014, 10:55:52 PM
im tired and dont feel like doing math this early in the am . . how much do you pay per month in hosting..

I'm curious as to what you pay too...

Mainly to make sure I'm not overpaying at my DC.

OP said it right in his OP hehe 2700 a month per 10th/s


Title: Re: [WTS] 50TH - Available Instantly - $2.00/GH [San Diego, CA]
Post by: samsonn25 on May 27, 2014, 11:08:15 PM
is that about .37 per kw


Title: Re: [WTS] 50TH - Available Instantly - $2.00/GH [San Diego, CA]
Post by: Bargraphics on May 27, 2014, 11:56:34 PM
Closer to $0.29 as it's 1.3kWh with AC per TH

Yes it is a little expensive (Since it's only 10TH there's no bulk rate)

It's fully managed as well with redundant cooling and power.


It is a little steep price wise but only under 1 more month contract. You could use that time to ready your cheaper space :)


Title: Re: [WTS] 50TH - Available Instantly - $2.00/GH [San Diego, CA]
Post by: chadwickx16 on May 28, 2014, 02:31:07 PM
Closer to $0.29 as it's 1.3kWh with AC per TH

Yes it is a little expensive (Since it's only 10TH there's no bulk rate)

It's fully managed as well with redundant cooling and power.


It is a little steep price wise but only under 1 more month contract. You could use that time to ready your cheaper space :)

Thanks!


Title: Re: [WTS] 50TH - Available Instantly - $2.00/GH [San Diego, CA]
Post by: Bargraphics on June 08, 2014, 08:21:14 PM
Hi,

These are no longer for sale.

Regards,

Bargraphics