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Title: Searching for someone with Ethereum knowledge
Post by: dashingriddler on May 10, 2014, 04:31:33 PM
Hi, I am looking for some one who has a good technical knowledge of ethereum to know about the possibilities of a project for a client. If you are the one or know someone who could be of some help to me, please reply in the thread or send me a PM.

Regards
Dashing Riddler


Title: Re: Searching for someone with Etherium knowledge
Post by: Neo.op on May 10, 2014, 06:07:22 PM
I guess you mean ethereum? I have been following all the cryptocurrency 2.0 applications - Mastercoin, Counterparty, Next, Ethereum and Bitshares.

What do you specifically want to know about ethereum? Most of the technical and functional info can be viewed on YT and their website.


Title: Re: Searching for someone with Etherium knowledge
Post by: dashingriddler on May 11, 2014, 04:31:40 AM
Yes it was Ethereum. Great i will PM you.


Title: Re: Searching for someone with Etherium knowledge
Post by: upal on May 11, 2014, 07:42:49 AM
Hi, I am looking for some one who has a good technical knowledge of etherium to know about the possibilities of a project for a client. If you are the one or know someone who could be of some help to me, please reply in the thread or send me a PM.

Regards
Dashing Riddler

Following Ethereum for quite some time. May I know what you are looking for ?


Title: Re: Searching for someone with Etherium knowledge
Post by: dashingriddler on May 11, 2014, 12:44:17 PM
Hi, I am looking for some one who has a good technical knowledge of etherium to know about the possibilities of a project for a client. If you are the one or know someone who could be of some help to me, please reply in the thread or send me a PM.

Regards
Dashing Riddler

Following Ethereum for quite some time. May I know what you are looking for ?
Great. Have sent you a pm.


Title: Re: Searching for someone with Etherium knowledge
Post by: cuddaloreappu on May 12, 2014, 02:28:41 PM
i am not a technical person but i am interested and following ethereum..so please PM me, i too wanna join the dicussion.


Title: Re: Searching for someone with Etherium knowledge
Post by: techguy on May 22, 2014, 02:23:04 PM
ethereum?

https://ethereum.org/
https://github.com/ethereum/wiki/wiki/%5BEnglish%5D-White-Paper


Title: Re: Searching for someone with Etherium knowledge
Post by: Fernandez on May 25, 2014, 06:04:57 AM
I guess you mean ethereum? I have been following all the cryptocurrency 2.0 applications - Mastercoin, Counterparty, Next, Ethereum and Bitshares.

What do you specifically want to know about ethereum? Most of the technical and functional info can be viewed on YT and their website.

Can you tell us which one looks promising and worth investing now?

I got interested in Bitshares from the discussion on Alternate Cryptocurrency board, but found they had a sneaky distribution policy.


Title: Re: Searching for someone with Etherium knowledge
Post by: Neo.op on May 25, 2014, 09:47:16 AM
I guess you mean ethereum? I have been following all the cryptocurrency 2.0 applications - Mastercoin, Counterparty, Next, Ethereum and Bitshares.

What do you specifically want to know about ethereum? Most of the technical and functional info can be viewed on YT and their website.

Can you tell us which one looks promising and worth investing now?

I got interested in Bitshares from the discussion on Alternate Cryptocurrency board, but found they had a sneaky distribution policy.
Currently for me next is best of the lot, ethereum comes second:

Mastercoin/Counterparty -- Built on top of bitcoin. There has some discussion over what they call free ride of bitcoin chains by these protocols. For the most part they are like havelock, cryptostocks etc meaning decentralised platform for centralised companies. If they allow scams (which are many in number in crypto world) onto their platform (think cryptostocks) they might take turn for the worse.

Ethereum - promising. While bitcoin smart contracts require quite a bit of coding to achieve they aim to make it easier. In some ways, a language to actually write smart contracts using their platform. There have been rumours that post IPO -- ether can only be obtained via PoW from custom made miners. Ethereum will be charging a commission from those custom hardware manufacturers.

Next - Similar to MSC/XCP but has its own source code. Many of the features are still in development like DNS, exchanges etc. They do have some interesting features like delegated mining etc.

Bitshares - Well this did have the most potential. Problem was they got greedy and their developer thought he was too smart; oviously for his own good.
There has been quite a lot of twists and turns. First they released protoshares(PTS) -- altcoin using PoW - everyone mined them, promoted them and raised its value -- all for the promise of 10% stake in bitshares(BTS). Devs were supposed to also mine them, sell them to fund their development (using the hype generated by the users).

Turned out developer were pretty useless. There was miner which actually mined PTS faster than what the devs imagined. Hence the initial funding failed.

To raise more money they later instituted a Proof of burn type concept called Angelshares (AGS)- asking people to denote PTS and bitcoins. This money was also supposed to be used for "development". This again promised 10% of bitshares to angelshares; bringing the pre-mine to 20%.

Their developer later decided PoW or mining wouldnt work. So he turned bitshares into 100% pre-mine allocation - 50% to PTS owners and 50% to Angelshares.

Point to note is they took PTS in form of AGS. So while at the beginning 1 PTS = 1 BTS, this actually turned it into 1PTS = 2 BTS if you donated it to the developers (AGS) -- 1 which you got from donation and 1 which I3 (developers) got from their address. A rather sneaky and dirty way if you ask me.
End result was 1 PTS (with you) = 1.33 BTS whereas 1 PTS (in form of AGS) = 1.65 BTS + 1.33 BTS for I3.

Now with PTS as a chain already at a standstill devs are now hard forking PTS to use POS and claiming that all unmined PTS be sent to them for "development" thereby instituting a post mine (rather than pre-mine).


Title: Re: Searching for someone with Etherium knowledge
Post by: Fernandez on May 28, 2014, 05:28:19 AM
I guess you mean ethereum? I have been following all the cryptocurrency 2.0 applications - Mastercoin, Counterparty, Next, Ethereum and Bitshares.

What do you specifically want to know about ethereum? Most of the technical and functional info can be viewed on YT and their website.

Can you tell us which one looks promising and worth investing now?

I got interested in Bitshares from the discussion on Alternate Cryptocurrency board, but found they had a sneaky distribution policy.
Currently for me next is best of the lot, ethereum comes second:

Mastercoin/Counterparty -- Built on top of bitcoin. There has some discussion over what they call free ride of bitcoin chains by these protocols. For the most part they are like havelock, cryptostocks etc meaning decentralised platform for centralised companies. If they allow scams (which are many in number in crypto world) onto their platform (think cryptostocks) they might take turn for the worse.

Ethereum - promising. While bitcoin smart contracts require quite a bit of coding to achieve they aim to make it easier. In some ways, a language to actually write smart contracts using their platform. There have been rumours that post IPO -- ether can only be obtained via PoW from custom made miners. Ethereum will be charging a commission from those custom hardware manufacturers.

Next - Similar to MSC/XCP but has its own source code. Many of the features are still in development like DNS, exchanges etc. They do have some interesting features like delegated mining etc.

Bitshares - Well this did have the most potential. Problem was they got greedy and their developer thought he was too smart; oviously for his own good.
There has been quite a lot of twists and turns. First they released protoshares(PTS) -- altcoin using PoW - everyone mined them, promoted them and raised its value -- all for the promise of 10% stake in bitshares(BTS). Devs were supposed to also mine them, sell them to fund their development (using the hype generated by the users).

Turned out developer were pretty useless. There was miner which actually mined PTS faster than what the devs imagined. Hence the initial funding failed.

To raise more money they later instituted a Proof of burn type concept called Angelshares (AGS)- asking people to denote PTS and bitcoins. This money was also supposed to be used for "development". This again promised 10% of bitshares to angelshares; bringing the pre-mine to 20%.

Their developer later decided PoW or mining wouldnt work. So he turned bitshares into 100% pre-mine allocation - 50% to PTS owners and 50% to Angelshares.

Point to note is they took PTS in form of AGS. So while at the beginning 1 PTS = 1 BTS, this actually turned it into 1PTS = 2 BTS if you donated it to the developers (AGS) -- 1 which you got from donation and 1 which I3 (developers) got from their address. A rather sneaky and dirty way if you ask me.
End result was 1 PTS (with you) = 1.33 BTS whereas 1 PTS (in form of AGS) = 1.65 BTS + 1.33 BTS for I3.

Now with PTS as a chain already at a standstill devs are now hard forking PTS to use POS and claiming that all unmined PTS be sent to them for "development" thereby instituting a post mine (rather than pre-mine).

Cheers.

Yes, Bitsahres looked quite shady after I became interested with their new PoS option. I am hoping some one or somegroup like the counterparty will fork it.


Title: Re: Searching for someone with Etherium knowledge
Post by: Neo.op on May 28, 2014, 09:52:16 AM
Cheers.

Yes, Bitsahres looked quite shady after I became interested with their new PoS option. I am hoping some one or somegroup like the counterparty will fork it.
Their PoS is somewhat of a hybrid between Ripple like consensus and NXT's PoS implementation. It is interesting but untested too. With all said and done, bitshares was done end-February but yet to any product 3 mths down the line.


Title: Re: Searching for someone with Ethereum knowledge
Post by: pandher on May 28, 2014, 10:17:40 AM
Im waiting for the IPO for quite some time, nothing in sight for now

200% ROI is a sure shot


Title: Re: Searching for someone with Etherium knowledge
Post by: Fernandez on May 29, 2014, 06:01:13 AM
Cheers.

Yes, Bitsahres looked quite shady after I became interested with their new PoS option. I am hoping some one or somegroup like the counterparty will fork it.
Their PoS is somewhat of a hybrid between Ripple like consensus and NXT's PoS implementation. It is interesting but untested too. With all said and done, bitshares was done end-February but yet to any product 3 mths down the line.

It was very interesting, thats why I looked it up. But then I saw they had already pre-distributed stakes to their friends. Its almost like a 100% premined coin.


Title: Re: Searching for someone with Ethereum knowledge
Post by: Fernandez on May 29, 2014, 06:02:44 AM
Im waiting for the IPO for quite some time, nothing in sight for now

200% ROI is a sure shot

How do you even get a figure like that when none of the details are there? be careful with your greed, it may turn out like Maidsafe.

Thats why I always try to avoid shady developers. Ethereum looks too greedy with their model. Bitshares, of course, just premined everything.


Title: Re: Searching for someone with Etherium knowledge
Post by: Neo.op on May 29, 2014, 03:10:06 PM

It was very interesting, thats why I looked it up. But then I saw they had already pre-distributed stakes to their friends. Its almost like a 100% premined coin.
It is not like, it is a 100% pre-mine pure PoS coin. It would have worked fine if the pre-mine was 1:1 with PTS which in turn was a PoW coin. But with AGS (angleshares) and what not shit getting in between it just mucked it up. Though I do hold a considerable stake in them and I am really prepared to loose it if things go sideways.


Title: Re: Searching for someone with Ethereum knowledge
Post by: Neo.op on May 29, 2014, 03:11:37 PM
Im waiting for the IPO for quite some time, nothing in sight for now

200% ROI is a sure shot
At the current rate, IPO is going to be overpriced and over subscribed. Their idea is certainly good but it remains to see if it works good.