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Mining-Asics-technologies.com - Bitcoin Miner Prototype

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Quality German Engineering
6 THS - only 2,200 watts

Scrypt miners coming soon!

https://www.mining-asics-technologies.com/

only 2,200 watts

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Data center usage only. Holy cow the sound from that thing is like nails on a chalkboard times a million!

it'$ the $ound of money entering my wallet :)

I'd love to get some fan part numbers, but there are several cooling mods possible already.

Is the one in the youtube vid a 3 TH/s or 6 TH/s prototype?

Why isn't the miner available on the website? Can you get a closeup with the chips and can we get more details about it? What about a video showing the miner hashrate live and power consumption?

Holy crap on a stick.  That's loud even for Data center.  Only time I've ever heard that sound was when a piece of hardware is initializing or thinks something is wrong.  That's the sound of fans running 100%. 

I just said the same thing to myself.  My god.

I like it!  Beast mode enabled...who cares about the sound if it prints magic internet money  ;D

Why does the website look like such a scam?

Why does the website say shipping in august yet somehow OP got a miner in may?

Why does the website say 4 x 1.5TH chips yet there are loads of small chips/blades?

+1

6 Th/s

+10

Show us live hashing or else it's a nice scam.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=598502.0  LOL

The LOL is on you if you can't show live hashrate. I call scam until we see live demo.

Probably because it is a scam!!

hey, hey, I'll do a review of your unit ;)

On a more serious note - I looked at your website and it says that the ASICs are made by Dream Chip Technology. Is this a new chip? Just curious...

At least post a screenshot of CGMiner hashing to make it look half way real.

Keep calm and stay on


Pre-orders again ??



Anyway ... another hardware to damage the market

Well i will pass on this .. either i will pass on everything now this biz is for crazy ppl that wanna loose money

This biz is very good for the companies with the specs and knowhow they are earning the real money .... but the investors are loosing

Keep in mind the investors are 90% of this biz ... so this scam won´t last forever

 

This is a SCAM! Stay away!!!

Coming from a competitor distributor  ::)

Mining Asics Technologies B.V. at the CEBE 2014 in Vienna from 31.05 until 01.06

News: Mining Asics Technologies B.V. at the CEBE 2014 in Vienna from 31.05 until 01.06

First conference introducing Bitcoin to Central Europe!

Invitation:

We have the greatest pleasure to invite you to the first Bitcoin related conference to be held in the heart of Europe – CEBE (Central Europe Bitcoin Expo). We look forward to meeting you at the Austria Center Vienna!

CEBE acronym means Bitcoin business entry into the region of Central Europe. This region is represented by the following countries: Austria, Czech Republic, Germany, Hungary, Poland, Slovakia, Slovenia and Switzerland. It will be the first and biggest conference of its kind ever held in this area. It is the opportunity to introduce the potential of Bitcoin and other crypto currencies to countries that are not really aware of its vast potential. Financial capitals such as Vienna, Bratislava, Berlin, Budapest, Frankfurt, Ljubljana, Munich, Prague, Warsaw or Zürich offer many opportunities to expand bitcoin business.

Buy your tickets now or sign up for a free ticket!    http://cebexpo.net/#ticket

We hope to see you there!

Marc Coumans

CEO

Mining Asics Technologies B.V.

Do you accept escrow? Why not sen dogie one machine for review, he's trusted member and done many reviews for different manufacturers? I can also do review=)

Discussing with their CMO today.

Braindead - these guys are for real, not like those Chinese crooks you and I are dealing with over in that other thread.

I have two miners on order from this company

You can count on these guys

:)

Having someone review your miner is the only way to help out consumer confidence in your products. People around here have already been scammed too many times...

I would be willing to review a unit, also do you have some specs on the ASIC Chip?

I'm not a distributor, just organizing Group Buys. We saw many scams here on the forum and I was active like here before organizing any Group Buy. Feel free to check my post history prior to March 2014. The fact that the product isn't available on the website + the fact that we don't see a single live hashing makes it strange for me. Until proven otherwise I can only suspect scam.

Another reason to make me think there is something shady is the fact that when I've asked for a live demo the OP laughed about my GB. Very professional. Show me live demo and I will retract my statements. You MAY be legit, but there is not a single proof to show that until now.

You have to be some type of distributor...every post you make is about SP units..or you get paid something.

+10

 ;D

I am a fanboi of SP-Tech, before that I was a regular miner since last year and I was/am supporting all the good miners and I'm trying to unmask shady companies. I did it with VMC here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=253282.0 and I will keep doing it no matter what. Last autumn I was supporting KnC and their Jupiter miners. Now SP-Tech is the best company and I support them! They launched in March. I am active in the Mining forum for more than 1 year. I see nothing wrong in asking legit questions regarding this company and this miner.

It seems that jjj0923 can't answer questions so that makes it strange for me and I'm sure that I'm not the only one.

+1

Roadstress may be "enthusiastic" about his current favourite manufacturer but he is and has been no less so about other companies that provided him with good equipment in the past. He's also adept, as are most of us who have been mining and posting here for a while, at sniffing out what appears to be a scam.

Now, I'm not saying this is a scam, but it doesn't take much to prove its not a scam. And I also would advise anyone not to send any money or coins until its sample units have been independently verified.

Well said both Biffa and Roadstress.

If jjj, you are so sure of M.A.T.'s legitimacy, why don't you setup a group buy of one of the miners here.  

Let's see even a small 10 unit one of the Titanium or Excalibur, escrowed of course.

Great way to support your company, and gain trust for them as well as you.

I already stated I am not affiliated with this company in any way. I am merely a person who has ordered two scrypt miners from them.

I am not interested in setting up a group buy - I am interested only in my own mining operations

I like the people there I have dealt with - they'be been transparent, honest and up front about delivery time and progress. You should check out their facebook page and link up with their CEO Marc Coumans on Linkedin.com like I did.

Have a great day! :)

What other miners do you have?

3 Bitmain S1's
3 rigs with 12 R9 280X boards for hybrid crypto's
20 gridseeds
3 gridseed blades
and one Hashra 24 Mhs unit on order

nothing spectacular but enough to have fun with.

how about you - what do you have?

15 burnin boards with Avalon gen1 chips
3 Jupiters
1 SP10
4 SP30 on order

when do you expect delivery on the SP30's - I looked closely at them but the pricing, delivery time and my personal cash flow made the Mining Asic units the best choice for me... and I want to send a SHOUT OUT to KNC Miners for announcing they're doubling the hash rates of their miners - YEA!!! - That caused Mining Asics to respond with Buy 1 Get 1 and now I'm getting two for the price of ONE! - BOOYAH!!!

I expect delivery starting/early of August. When do you expect delivery of your Mining Asic unit?

You also have a pre-order for a Neptune? If yes when do you expect delivery of the unit/s?

End of July/Early August for the Mining Asic unit so I was thrilled when Mat posted the video on Facebook last night.

What about Neptunes? Waiting for them or just supporting KnC?

ME? I have no open order from KNC.

But I may go to KFC for lunch today! LOL

How much have you paid for your Mining Asic unit? I don't see any price on their website.

they asked for a 35% deposit when I ordered mine back in March

Why not share real numbers? How much is 35%?

It seems that you are the only one that ordered one. Have they sold out? I don't see them advertising for more sales.

are you sure you're going to the correct website?

their prices are posted right on the site in USD or Euros

https://www.mining-asics-technologies.com/product/excalibur-4-asic-scrypt-miner-250-mhs-2-x-125-mhs/

So if they are not a scam, isn´t the hardware a bit overpriced?

That's a scrypt miner. Title of the thread is for a Bitcoin miner. I am asking about the Bitcoin miner since this is the bitcoin mining forum, not scrypt.

are you serious?

$8000 for 250 megahash - OMG - it's incredible!

then you may want to consider buying enough Hashra units at $3,000 each - hmmm 250/24 = 7.35 * $3,000 = $22,058 from Hashra for the same megahash

I think you're confused about khs/mhs etc... ok?

:)

$9,999 for 6 Ths bitcoin miner

https://www.mining-asics-technologies.com/product/titanium-2-asic-bitcoin-miner-6-ths-super-low-power/

Following. Hopefully I could strike a 2GH deal here.

2GH? Don't send any money without a live demo or any other good solid proof.

I'm probably going to personally meet them when I make this deal. I'm extremely skeptical as I was with Spondoolies, yet now I know they're legit. I was hoping to strike a deal with Sp-Tech, but the difficulty is going to destroy all hopeful profits.

I don't understand. What deal? 2GH? 2TH?

When are you getting your unit if you make the deal?

it looks nice

He means 2mh/s..

It amazes me that this guy is skeptical of spondoolies (who provided a plethora of evidence) compared to this sketchy company which provided a video of a completely unbranded machine which looks nothing like what was advertised, no proof of humans working at this company, no proof of hashrate/claims of less than 0.3w/gh, no proof of manufacturing facility or any company related offices.

But this guy knows they are legit so its all fine.

Heres a nice quote from the site:

Let me clarify. I know that spondoolies is legit, but the august date is too far off. I really did mean 2 GH which is 2,000 mh just so I know that you know what I'm talking about. I'm trying to see if these guys are legit. Hopefully I could strike something with these guys. Hell I'm actually trying to make ends meet with flower tech. It's not good to assume you know what you're talking about.

I've been trying to strike a deal with spondoolies for their hashing boards. I was going to buy 2 PH, but I figured out that it's much more profitable for me together GH in scrypt mining. Of course, I plan on getting way more than 2 GH.

How exactly can you buy 2gh? They claim each chip is 1.5th.

Also flowertech looks like another scam. They claim their scrypt miners can mine scrypt-n along with a bunch of other red flags.

2 GH worth of scrypt asics not Bitcoin asics!

So why is the video title "3 TH/s Bitcoin Asic Miner from Mining Asics Technologies B. V. Prototype is running" then?

LOL, be consistent in your story if you want people to believe you.  ::)

R u certain flowertech is a scam?

When are you expecting the delivery of the 2GH scrypt asics?

what time was it in Denmark when they posted the video? I guess you've never made a mistake...

Must be nice...

I have no idea at the moment because I haven't placed any orders with them at the moment. I'm still trying to validate if they're legit or not by sending so done to that Europe Bitcoin convention.

12K$ August delivery, you know that's an absolutely sure 50% loss investement?

Mining Asics Technologies B.V. at the CEBE 2014 in Vienna from 31.05 until 01.06

First conference introducing Bitcoin to Central Europe!

Invitation:
We have the greatest pleasure to invite you to the first Bitcoin related conference to be held in the heart of Europe – CEBE (Central Europe Bitcoin Expo). We look forward to meeting you at the Austria Center Vienna!

CEBE acronym means Bitcoin business entry into the region of Central Europe. This region is represented by the following countries: Austria, Czech Republic, Germany, Hungary, Poland, Slovakia, Slovenia and Switzerland. It will be the first and biggest conference of its kind ever held in this area. It is the opportunity to introduce the potential of Bitcoin and other crypto currencies to countries that are not really aware of its vast potential. Financial capitals such as Vienna, Bratislava, Berlin, Budapest, Frankfurt, Ljubljana, Munich, Prague, Warsaw or Zürich offer many opportunities to expand bitcoin business.

Buy your tickets now or sign up for a free ticket!    http://cebexpo.net/#ticket

We present there our Bitcoin Asic Miner prototype too

We hope to see you there!

Marc Coumans

CEO

Mining Asics Technologies B.V.
https://www.mining-asics-technologies.com

For the amount the 6THs is being sold, what would make this a competitive against the spondoolies sp30?
The 0.6Ths bump does not seem to justify a 4K increase in price.

The renders vs the actual photos seem to be misleading. Its just marketing and all that but the product should be accurately represented.  Even down to the way it looks in final shipping form.

At any rate what value do people get for buying yours vs spondoolies or another competitor?

For 10k I can get 5 Antminer S2s now (just under 12k get 6 S2s) and get them to my doorstep within a week before the difficulty goes up substantially.
With your product one has to wait until August. Where is the value there?
The question I (and others) should immediately ask is, why would I want to buy your miner over one of the readily available competitors out there?

Only suckers pre-order months in advance. Buy what is in stock now only. Sending a clear message that the pre-order business model is dead.

Having been one of those "suckers", I am keenly aware of that. Still the questions are valid. At this point there is no value in their miners at those price point from what can be seen. So they still would need to answer those questions, otherwise its just another way to make money off unsuspecting people. My blood boils even now when I see how BFL still sells overpriced and ghastly underperforming hardware....and worse when they get highlighted in publications (such as CPU magazine).....it's these companies that are making the business of mining a joke for many.

Is this real? Is there anybody who live in Netherlands? If there is a person, can you check below address is a legit one and about their company?

Kindly,
       MZ

I'm mobile right now but later on when I arrive in my office I will post a link to another thread from a gentleman who visited their offices

Still no product has been seen working.

Because there isn't one!

proove it.

I don't have to. The fact that there isn't a live demo speaks for itself. You or anyone else prove that there is a real device working.

My personal opinion is that you guys either resell of work for KNC miner....and the other resell Spoonfoolies...

I've been in touch with Marc from Mining Asics numerous times - in fact weekly and I know I'll have my machines in a few weeks - probably by mid July.

good luck fellas

Uhhh.... It is July 21st. We are passed the middle of July.

just like I said - probably...no biggie - Marc explained the time window to me when I placed my order and he explained the time frame to me again last week.

after having lived though a rushed release of a machine from someone else that caused me a lot of problems - I'd prefer to have it right than a little sooner. :)

I'm not concerned at all.

it's blatantly apparent that you have some some sort of hidden agenda so why not go elsewhere to grind your axe and spew your drivel since you're cyber stalking my posts...

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it's blatantly apparent that you have some some sort of hidden agenda so why not go elsewhere to grind your axe and spew your drivel since you're cyber stalking my posts...
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lol easy its just a machine, besides theyve seen a lot of scams.

scammers DON'T  get on flights and attend conferences.
scammers DON'T sign deals (that are verifiable) with chip manufacturers
scammers DON'T answer the telephone
scammers DON'T have their profiles and pictures on Linkedin and Facebook.
scammers DON'T invite people to their offices for visits and then welcome people into their office.

and that's just for starters - there's a hidden agenda here by the trolls...

no doubt about it....

Cyber stalking?!?! Seriously? This is my first post in this thread and I doubt I have ever replied to anything you have ever posted.

BUT SCAMMERS NEVER SHOW A REAL TANGIBLE PROOF WHEN ASKED and they will say,promise and do ANYTHING else just to get your money!

oh plueeze - you clearly have a ulterior motive to magically show up after a few weeks after no activity and attempt to discredit the company.

please - just go somewhere else to try and hurt their sales... because that's clearly your motive. just come out and admit it...

The only entity that's hurting MAT's sales is MAT themselves.  They still haven't proven they possess a working machine.

prove it!

This seems interesting. Youtube video looks like they showed gen1 unit with multiple cards. The sound is just so flipping loud...

I see nothings changed. Jjj still MAT number 1 shill fan boy.

show me your ass, and i will buy some item
SCAM

Prove YOU are not a paid shill/sock puppet for a scamfag vaporware merchant...

'probably mid july', indeed...

MAT. Redefining the burden of proof since 2014.

much scam very wow.

Can you provide at least hash rate on cg miner or bfg miner? For more proof you will have to make a video : connecting to PC, opening a miner, show us the hash rate. Otherwise, this is a scam.
Kindly,
         MZ

They haven't/can't and it is.

The one shill they have here is actually a buyer of their non existent scrypt miner, not even the Bitcoin miner they are promoting here.

They only need a few dozen noobs or mugs to fall for the scam and they have made a tidy sum of money.

Awesome watt/ghash, hopefully it turns out to be true..

There are many ways to scam someone, this would be called the BFL con  ;)

 ???

Just don't send any money!

what type of chip you are using? It is hard to believe 6TH only at 2.2kw. even the latest 20nm ASIC by KnC has 3THS at 2.1kw.

They are not using any chip because the product doesn't exist.

One cannot prove the nonexistence of something, thus that onus is not on me.  They made the claim, they need to prove it.

It is very funny though. We asked proof and he is asking us to prove... :-\  I have found many scams now. Anybody fall in any trap recently? ::)

This post deserve in Scam and Accusation. Any suggestion on moving this post?
Kindly,
      MZ

So you are conceding that you have been trying to scam us with this thread ?

IMO don't look his posts. Look at the below post telling us to prove. Can you move this topic to Scam And Accusations?


Kindly,
     MZ

eh, ever heard of BFL - they do all the above. This was their las attempt to sell: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=518189.msg5728309#msg5728309. Opened a new thread after all the questions and lack of hashing proof.

So anyone one had a batch one device delivered yet?

Nothing delivered yet as far as I know and to be honest I would be very surprised if this 'company' ever delivers anything.

Anyone know when the scrypt miners were / are supposed to ship?

The most reliable source I could find is unfortunately a scammer  ;D


But I am absolutely confident that jjj0923 will let us know when he gets his.

I will - I'm in touch with Marc every few days and I'm very hopeful by Aug 23rd right now - I'll keep you folks updated.

nice looking board - clean work

I did an engineeering job years ago to produce the aqueous film that goes in these boards - it was a fun project.

You're not listening. The units they showed you weren't theirs at all, they were bought in. MAT have been lying to you.

brought in from where since no one is producing a unit like that currently.

ok - so they bought the stuff from you and said it was their - what's the harm in that? are you producing stuff for them or just pissed at them they they passed your stuff off as their and why aren't your guys mass producing your units

a reasonable man would wonder why you guys aren't in business selling the hell out of these things based on the current demand for a fast hashing machine..

thanks

Jeff

so it appears as though you has some non disclosure hat has run out and and now you guys are free to disclose what transpired?

in any event - are you guys going to produce your machines in quantity or was this just a prototype shown in the pics?

thanks

by the way guys - it looks like you did a nice job on those units. very clean!

Jeff

You find it questionable that they aren't selling their miners yet never once questioned why MAT hasn't been selling a miner they've had for months?

Here are some things I found questionable:

all good questions - perhaps because the 2 units they purchased never worked properly (just speculation mind you) and they were left high and dry and had to scramble and look elsewhere?

I sent a PM to both of the individuals involved posting here asking about their equipment but have not received replies yet....

are you familiar with a policy called "scortched earth" - I think you're seeing it play out here : LOL

Basically jjj your homeboy Marc Coumans is lying scumbag scammer.

Whatever it is he's trying to sell off as MAT miners are really Coinbau wolfcaves rebranded.

Since you talk to him so often, you'd know this already, either that or you're in the process of getting your masters degree in the art of shilling.

Bcp19 would be so proud.... :P

I totally disagree. When you buy a phone from Apple they don't tell you that's made at a sweat shop in China where people have jumped to their deaths.
NO company is required to disclose their sources and neither was MAT - My guess was at that time everything was peachy dandy between the two companies and things went awry which is why those guys are out here now calling MAT liars - seems like they have an axe  to grind.

secondly - please tell me where anyone on this planet can go to purchase a Coinbau wolfcave and there is appraently a season for that - have you asked yourself that?

My guess is that it a) never worked or b) the cost or time frame to manufacture was simply not within the realm of reality.

Was MAT under some obligation to inform me that the units they showed were built by someone else?  that answer is NO

Did mat OWN those systems? - The answer is YES - they paid for the systems and they were indeed theirs.

The bottom line here is that you have some sort of axe to grind and you are overlooking the facts - if these machine were really what they allege to be don't you think they'd be in production by now an for sale?  and they are not - show me where I can buy one please?

what I know from experience is that there are three sides to every story - his side, their side and the real truth lies somewhere in between.

for now I am banking on MAT to get me machines and I personally could care less who built them - seriously.

finally - why are you guys so spiteful and vengeful and filled with such venom - what did MAT every do to you?

last time I checked I was the guy with the deposit with them - not you.... LOL - if anyone should be filled with rage if could be me, but I have no time in my life for hatred - it's a losing proposition...

as always I remain hopeful and nothing I've learned here today has changed my mind.

let's just say both and I'll laugh when I get my machines.

I refuse to be sucked into the black hole that is the vortex of doom that permeates you guys.

LOL

Weren't you supposed to have received them already?  I thought it was mid-july? 

Curious as to how long you'll hold out hope for.  Like, are you going to start sweating bulletts if you haven't received anything by November, December..?

true: I was hoping for July and that's what Marc relayed to me but he did tell me two weeks ago there were some delays, but the way I'm looking at this is relatively simple. Right now there is nothing on the market that even comes close to the speed of these machines for the $/MH that they will be. KNC certainly does not appear to be anywhere close to delivering that they promised. Nothing is coming out of China except for what GAW has announced and that's not until November/December.

As it related to sweating bullets: If I have not received anything by the end end of September I'll be filing suit in a Danish court against MAT, but I highly doubt it will come to that.

Fortunately for me a business contact of mine does a lot of legal work throughout Europe and I already have the name of an Attorney in Denmark to represent me if it comes to that. I'm kind of like Ronald Reagan when he referred to the Russians. I do a lot of leg work on companies and individuals up front before forking over money : my motto is: Trust but verify.

In the meantime - life goes on and it's Friday here an I'll be boating on bay this weekend with a cocktail in hand, not worrying about this stuff!

Fucking busted.

It's past experience from the community and a strong desire to stop the scammers from taking advantage of new miners that we dose a huge amount of skepticism on any new asic mining manufacturer. We're all completely sick and tired of this which is why we all sigh when another one pops up, steals money, and delivers nothing.

Mining isn't a religion so people need to quit believing and hoping.

correct - mining is a challenge!!! LOL


but you know the same skepticism flourished months ago when I look back through threads and then we has the gridseed and look now we have 90mh A2 units selling for $3,999 and I've been buying 54MH units for $899 - crazy huh?

JJJ0923 why not get MAT online to explain themselves here? I'm sure they have answers.

why don't you? you're the one who wants answers - his email address is posted right on the website

I think deko would, but his sig doesn't have "Pointing out injustice everywhere!"

LOL.

Loving how MAT bought in his demo units from some other outfit, busted.

Some of us learned to avoid that pre-order vortex of doom you speak of.

From where I'm sittin', I'd say it looks like you're the one that's getting sucked into the black hole here.

But why a Danish court, it is a dutch based company?

jjj0923 did your miner turn up? when is it due to land?

You can sue all you want, doesn't matter if they've skimmed the money which in this sort of time frame they almost certainly have. Or that it will cost you 2x as much in legal fees to even get a judgement on how much you lost, nevermind even attempt to enforce that judgement on the money which now doesn't exist.

tldr, I'm sorry.

It's the beauty of EU law. Member states can sue someone in another EU state. Best of luck with it. aFox in France sued KnC in Sweden and forced them to refund the miner's money as well as pay legal fees. (said lawyer is no longer taking miner cases - must be too much work too little pay)

was reading the scam thread then I saw this last post. You have to know that lawyers in France doesn't take a % of the indemnity (or it's very rare). You just pay them (in advance ;D) . The loser has to pay everything : justice fees, opponent lawyer, indemnity (if applicable).

https://www.mining-asics-technologies.com/mining-asics-technologies-b-v-news-update-august-17th-2014/

Which chips are these the sha256 or the scrypt? pictures???

long con got long.

So mass production has started without a working prototype. Ok.

They had a prototype before, they just didn't make it. They bought it from some other German outfit.

ROFLMFAO...  This has got to be the STUPIDEST scam going...  RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT 3 times more efficient than any other manufacturer AND they are sold out..  HAHA BULLSH!T!!!!

Not to mention the prototype that they bought is nowhere the advertised specs w.r.t. efficiency.

maybe they got neu sooper duper sha256/scrypt combo chips.

Black Arrow Syndrome.

After all the proof was put on the table regarding Black Arrow was a scam, millions were still spent to acquire their vaporware. Results? Not even vaporware, and the phone lines no longer work, and the company's long gone.

I'm hoping to be proved wrong and they actually deliver a machine what works. God knows whats happening with the scrypt machines.

So how is that lawsuit coming?

it's not because I got the shipping notice for my system :)

I've been in touch with Marc from Mining-Asics a lot over the past month - I can't say what I know but they got jerked around pretty good by a so called reliable supplier and things were delayed, but to their credit they stayed in touch with me and others and let us know about delays and the reasons for the delays. I'm a happy camper :)


hmmm: ASICMINERPRISMA                        1.4T+ ● 0.70-0.78J/GH ● ONLY 1.39BTC                          Shipping in Oct.  ???

??? really - where's their website?

ahh the old I cant say NDA bollocks.

the why are your promoting them?

where are they based?
where are they built?
no website?

sounds scammy to me...

What the fuck are you on about?

You stated that if you don't receive "anything" by the end of September you'll sue MAT. Today is the end of September. Have you received anything and what is it? Pictures?

read my fucking message dick wad....


duh!!!

you're pathetic...

and not only pathetic but trying to discredit a company that you've had no dealings with just to help you promote a machine that does not exist that you can't talk about because of an NDA which I am sure you have not signed that does not exist - it's apparent you're a KNC Miner or spoonfoolies employee or reseller - please crawl back in the hole that you climbed out of...

man - you bitcoin guys are so vindictive it's really pathetic - I have no time in my life for such pathetic measures actions or behavior - please grow he fuck up man  - or kid - you're probably a teenager...which explains it


let me share an important message about business with you since appear to have not gotten the memo...

when you're selling something you talk about the strengths and advantages of whatever you're selling - tearing down and trying to discredit the competition only makes you look petty.....

you got bum hurt jjj90210?

I take it as a "no" then.

When do you expect to have it? Give us another date so we can come back and ask you again if you, the only customer on bitcointalk, have recieved the scrypt miner.

This is the 250Mh one you ordered in March 2014, 7 months ago for somewhere between $8-12K but only paid 35%?

essence of honesty.....

Leave Triple J alone fellas!   >:(

He got burnt to a crisp by his homie Marc Coumans for no pre order product, let his a-hole heal.

Either that or he's shilling the good fight til the very end.

Miners industry.

Fucking idiots.

lol I think he is trying to call AM scammy

Have you received it yet?

jjj0923 did you get it?


nah didn't think so.


http://cryptomining-blog.com/3587-what-is-going-on-with-mining-asics-technologies/

so they shipped already? nah they didnt.....

jjj is on vacation probably. Used to post every day, but last post is Oct 01 and "Last Active: 2014-10-06". I'm sure he'll update us when he comes back.

I don't  thunk he will update because there are no updates.

Uh OH, looks like he's back from vacay!


That's a week ago, guess he's become quite a bit gun shy on these forums since his broski Marc hasn't come through for him.

JJ got bumhurt i expect.  ;D :D ;) :) ;D >:( ;D :D ;) :)

As good a resource as BCT is, it is just as important to expose these companies on other social media like facebook or twitter. twitter being easier. The crypto press does not always have the resources to check out these forums or vet things. And in general, press is more about sensationalism and splash before facts, marketing basically. It is more important to get the word outside this forum of all of these scam companies and their "CEOs" so the world is aware of them. Shaming them on the biggest social networks will be the best way to begin to stop these scams. BFL only succeeded for so long because the complaints were restricted ONLY to this forum and their own. It took massive amounts of complaints from people to eventually get the government to actually take action.

We need to step up OUR game if we want to stop scammers like these. They produce no product, take your money, then vanish. The scammers are certainly stepping up theirs.

do you have info proof?

are you invested?

No proof but others likley do. I am invested in exposing ANY ASIC manufacturer now, I have been burned twice. And I do mine. After all that I found the manufacturer of my choice to buy from. Too many of these sellvertisements that advertise vaporware. We should not be investing in their R&D, that is a HUGE risk on the consumer. Any honest business will take on that risk themselves.

Is there a product to show? Video? Proof? So far ALL of the hallmarks of a scam are right here true to form. Post up details....show proof. cgminer, video of the miner actually hashing and connected to a monitor....show the UI. Since you are willing to hawk your wares on here, at least make the effort to prove it exists.

Did my comment scare you? I know how you marketing guys work. What trusted members in this community have a sample device to show this miner is real?

Well it seems that nobody else is complaining so this was a very lame attempt of a scam because nobody bought it. Suckers!

no news?

What use is a scam operation if you only have 1 guy shilling for them?

I'm kind of angry that they don't have more sock puppets promoting their long con!   >:(

http://i1350.photobucket.com/albums/p769/PrestonStarry/sockpuppets_zpsf4e20242.jpg

To be fair the way jjj was yelling at non-believers he was worth 4-5 regular-sized shills.

Comments on their FB page are getting tense:

https://www.facebook.com/mining.asics.technologies

Fact is anyone using the whole "are you invested" line is just trying to divert attention from the topic, the burden of PROOF is on the supposed manufacturer to prove
A: They are an actual business entity with a physical address
B: A viable product
C: Proof of such product in detailed technical videos, white papers and
D: Community exposure. There MUST be review units. This happens even in established industries. nvidia and AMD ship their latest graphics hardware to reviewers a month in advance at times. This works both as a marketing tool AND a credibility tool. People know what they are getting ahead of time.
E: Delivery of product under said timeline (underpromise OVERdeliver is always good)

Most of the scams that come on here usually pull the same shit. Announce, get hype but no substance, get a few people to pay them with a shill or sock puppet to attempt to establish credibility, then run away with the money. This looks to be no different.

For such a press splash and all the hype, where is the hardware? where are the samples? Who has one? Has it even been spotted at ANY trade show event by anyone other than the manufacturer? These are all critical questions and marketing aspects that are important to establish credibility. No one should ever feel comfortable parting with their money until they have done the homework, considering the sums of money being paid for the hardware. Again this comes from lessons learned and hard experience. I made the mistake 2x. Once with BFL and again with AMT. So I learned my lesson and learned.

The burden of proof is on Mining Asics Technologoes (umm wtf is up with the Technologoes part?) not on me to state whether i am invested or not. I will be invested ONCE there is proof and it meets my needs. I am a VERY invested miner. I do buy from a manufacturer that has earned my trust because they have been consistent. Can you prove you will do the same? Remember talk is cheap. Prove you got something show it in the form of proof.

Unfortunately judging by the comments on Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/mining.asics.technologies) quite a few people have purchased physical units or hosted miners...

As far as I can tell, people have been asking for refunds and MAT has been telling people they will receive a refund but so far no one seems to have actually been refunded.

And this is part of the problem. Alot of these scams are taking it to the broader social media communities to perpetrate the scams. bct while relevant to the serious miner, not something the newbie or prospective miner is looking at. AND if they look they see what at first glance appears like alot of flaming and trolling. Not that it doesnt happen, but it does make a difference in perception.

For those serious enough about exposing these types of things its important to get out there to the social media world and call them out there too.

Hey, for good price will be sock puppet... Just to let you know OP.

Need some back up in selling non existing stuff, for shit loads of money?

I'm your Man!!!

Ohh wait...JUST KIDDING.

https://www.mining-asics-technologies.com/mat-production-shipments-started-october-20th/

Ruh Roh, They at it again?!

http://www.memegene.net/media/created/orbt0f.jpg

But seriously, where's the proof of the miners?   8)

Be gentle. They are already whining about "Trouble in the Forums" in their announcement.

Scam, scam, scammy

Original post from Renton Bonaventura https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100006321996927&fref=nf
https://www.facebook.com/groups/352627768251593/permalink/352752534905783/
The Alcheminer-MAT Game in greater detail:
 MAT agreed with alcheminer to a joint production venture with the figure something around 2M $ for the development. It was a shared deal 50% - 50%. But MAT does not have any rights in the IP (asic chip design). For the 2M $ there are included 50K Asic Chips with own MAT Logo - that's why the alcheminer chip and MAT chip are identical. The chip is the same as the Alcheminer Chip! With 50K Chips you can make 195 miners, each with 256 asics inside, but of course still there are additional costs for the whole miner manufacturing, case, boards, software, controller board... of about over 800$ each.

But now the latest news:
 MAT doesn't even have the 2M$, so MAT received around the end of September only 10K chips. Nothing more - because all money from preorders was invested only in the development of the asics, not in the miners itself.

Now after the GAW miner deal, MAT had some money to pay for the last 40K asics and to the manufacturer of the miners. Thats why MAT still doesn't have miners... because MAT shipped all miners to GAW (Marshall Long as commission for the GAW deal), another cloudmining company, and 3 or 4 customers.

 To ship or make refunds for all customers MAT needs to raise more than 1,3M$. But the margins of selling the miners now are too low to make a profit of 1,3M$.