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Title: del
Post by: myself on February 08, 2012, 01:06:14 PM
del


Title: Re: mtgox.com is down
Post by: NamelessOne on February 08, 2012, 01:07:34 PM
Not for me. Live is down but the website itself is still up.


Title: Re: mtgox.com is down
Post by: proudhon on February 08, 2012, 01:09:04 PM
It's working for me.  Live is, well, not live, though.


Title: Re: mtgox.com is down
Post by: 1862 on February 08, 2012, 01:14:36 PM
It's down in EUR, fine in USA it seems.


Title: Re: mtgox.com is down
Post by: xepera on February 08, 2012, 01:16:32 PM
confirmed, down in germany. :mad:


Title: Re: mtgox.com is down
Post by: Mushoz on February 08, 2012, 01:19:00 PM
Confirmed, down in The Netherlands.


Title: Re: mtgox.com is down
Post by: Koekiemonster on February 08, 2012, 01:20:20 PM
Yeah, down for me as well(Netherlands).

It's nice and all MTGOX is setting up their own merchant solutions program, but I don't understand why this isn't first priority!?!


Title: Re: mtgox.com is down
Post by: N12 on February 08, 2012, 01:20:46 PM
EUR, down here as well.

Fuck MtGox, seriously. Either everyone can trade or they shut trading down.


Title: Re: mtgox.com is down
Post by: Koekiemonster on February 08, 2012, 01:21:41 PM
Up for me again.


Title: Re: mtgox.com is down
Post by: NamelessOne on February 08, 2012, 01:21:48 PM
Up here in North America. Price is new high of 5.845


Title: Re: mtgox.com is down
Post by: RandyMarsh on February 08, 2012, 01:25:04 PM
Down in Ireland, I need this man, my ecomomy is shit  >:(


Title: Re: mtgox.com is down
Post by: labestiol on February 08, 2012, 01:25:19 PM
Down in france too
Can someone confirm the ip address is this one : 72.52.5.67 ??


EDIT : BACK


Title: Re: mtgox.com is down
Post by: legitnick on February 08, 2012, 01:33:07 PM
Not down in Australia :)
So it's down in Australia?


Title: Re: mtgox.com is down
Post by: Piper67 on February 08, 2012, 01:35:09 PM
5.833


Title: Re: mtgox.com is down
Post by: NamelessOne on February 08, 2012, 01:35:36 PM
plz post price :)

Bouncing between 5.82 and 5.84.  =)


Title: Re: mtgox.com is down
Post by: legitnick on February 08, 2012, 01:49:47 PM
http://www.snooperz.com/files/images/1208341479486.jpg


Title: Re: mtgox.com is down
Post by: Mageant on February 08, 2012, 01:51:39 PM
The spread on Bitcoinica is currently only 1.5 cents.


Title: Re: mtgox.com is down
Post by: proudhon on February 08, 2012, 01:52:21 PM

$6.23!!!


Title: Re: mtgox.com is down
Post by: Vandroiy on February 08, 2012, 02:07:20 PM
This looks like some kind of exploit. Whoever is attacking might not want European traders to get in the way while he runs some attack on Bitcoinica/a bot/newbie US speculators/who knows what.

What is Gox doing, no statement, no precautions? True wild west, eh. People who have bots running iceberg sell orders will be pissed at competing against an unfair advantage of the "preferred" traders who are still allowed to operate.


Title: Re: mtgox.com is down
Post by: NamelessOne on February 08, 2012, 02:28:15 PM
Clarkmoody is working live again for me.

edit: mtgoxlive also


Title: Re: mtgox.com is down
Post by: labestiol on February 08, 2012, 02:32:39 PM
Down again here...


Title: Re: mtgox.com is down
Post by: Lord F(r)og on February 08, 2012, 02:32:46 PM
anyone remember this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=56896.0

maybe related?


Title: Re: mtgox.com is down
Post by: SkRRJyTC on February 08, 2012, 02:35:41 PM
anyone remember this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=56896.0

maybe related?

LOL. no


Title: Re: mtgox.com is down
Post by: labestiol on February 08, 2012, 02:36:13 PM
Can someone outside europe (for whom mtgox is still working) say me if this works ???

https://72.52.5.67


Title: Re: mtgox.com is down
Post by: notme on February 08, 2012, 02:38:50 PM
Can someone outside europe (for whom mtgox is still working) say me if this works ???

https://72.52.5.67

Error page: domain not found


Title: Re: mtgox.com is down
Post by: labestiol on February 08, 2012, 02:41:28 PM
I don't get it....
If mtgox was being ddosed, it wouldn't work for anyone
If it was a dns problem, then this ip (if it's the good one), should work...
Can someone correct me if i'm wrong ?
WTF is happening ??

PS : from france, both are not responding... but i can ping mtgox.com


Title: Re: mtgox.com is down
Post by: notme on February 08, 2012, 02:44:56 PM
I don't get it....
If mtgox was being ddosed, it wouldn't work for anyone
If it was a dns problem, then this ip (if it's the good one), should work...
Can someone correct me if i'm wrong ?
WTF is happening ??


It could be being ddosed from a subset of ip's so only that subset plus their subnets are blocked.


Title: Re: mtgox.com is down
Post by: Vandroiy on February 08, 2012, 02:51:39 PM
It's those Russians who have done it dozens of times already. Every time, Europe was selectively disabled. It's been confirmed by Mtgox on various occasions, and they even contracted a hoster that specially handles DoS countermeasures because of this.

Also, I don't think I'm routed to Mtgox over Asia, or are they hosted in Japan now?

That's not a "conspiracy theory". This is most likely an attack just like all the attacks we had before -- just this time, someone is trying to profit on the market by doing it.


Title: Re: mtgox.com is down
Post by: Mushoz on February 08, 2012, 02:55:41 PM
Weird. I can reach Mtgox just fine through Tor, but I can't reach them without my connection going through Tor.


Title: Re: mtgox.com is down
Post by: ineededausername on February 08, 2012, 02:56:23 PM
gox loading in <1 second for me


Title: Re: mtgox.com is down
Post by: btc-hasher on February 08, 2012, 02:56:38 PM
Sorry I was thinking Bitcoinica, MtGox is hosted in Florida...

So from the thread it appears that Europe is having issues reaching mtgox.com, 72.52.5.67.

Any other geographic regions? What do European users get when they trace route to mtgox.com?

Here is mine:


Tracing route to mtgox.com [72.52.5.67]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    65 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  192.168.5.254
  2     1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  172.16.1.2
  3     2 ms     2 ms     2 ms  ra2nr-ge3-1-4.wp.bigpipeinc.com [64.141.33.185]

  4     3 ms     3 ms     3 ms  rc2sc-tge0-15-5-0.wp.shawcable.net [66.163.73.16
5]
  5    46 ms    46 ms    46 ms  rc1as-pos1-0-0.vx.shawcable.net [66.163.77.150]

  6    56 ms    51 ms    51 ms  dca1.prolexic.com [206.223.115.219]
  7    47 ms    46 ms    46 ms  unknown.prolexic.com [209.200.144.34]
  8    50 ms    50 ms    49 ms  unknown.prolexic.com [72.52.5.67]

Trace complete.


Title: Re: mtgox.com is down
Post by: ZPK on February 08, 2012, 03:00:20 PM
))) https://support.mtgox.com/entries/20875523-rescheduled-maintenance-notification


Title: Re: mtgox.com is down
Post by: Vandroiy on February 08, 2012, 03:03:18 PM
I see a route, but the site is down for me. Here is the route, starting from 6th hop:


  6    44 ms    45 ms    44 ms  if-7-2.tcore1.FNM-Frankfurt.as6453.net [195.219.50.2]
  7    41 ms    41 ms    41 ms  if-6-3.tcore1.AV2-Amsterdam.as6453.net [195.219.194.77]
  8    48 ms    41 ms    41 ms  if-2-2.tcore2.AV2-Amsterdam.as6453.net [195.219.194.6]
  9    49 ms    44 ms    44 ms  if-5-2.tcore2.L78-London.as6453.net [80.231.131.13]
 10    41 ms    41 ms    41 ms  if-2-2.tcore1.L78-London.as6453.net [80.231.131.2]
 11    41 ms    41 ms    41 ms  if-1-0-0-1600.mse1.LRT-London.as6453.net [80.231.130.42]
 12    38 ms    38 ms    38 ms  195.219.100.42
 13    38 ms    37 ms    38 ms  unknown.prolexic.com [209.200.156.70]
 14     *        *        *     Request timed out.
 15    40 ms    40 ms    40 ms  unknown.prolexic.com [209.200.156.73]
 16    38 ms    38 ms    38 ms  unknown.prolexic.com [209.200.156.34]
 17    39 ms    39 ms    39 ms  unknown.prolexic.com [72.52.5.67]

Trace complete.


Title: Re: mtgox.com is down
Post by: btc-hasher on February 08, 2012, 03:03:53 PM
HAH!!!! That's awesome...

It's a routine scheduled maintenance outage!!


Title: Re: mtgox.com is down
Post by: N12 on February 08, 2012, 03:05:03 PM
))) https://support.mtgox.com/entries/20875523-rescheduled-maintenance-notification
Seriously? What the hell?

Why not shut trading down if you are doing maintenance if not everybody can trade? Who is going to come up for my losses generated by this?

Typical goxxing.


Title: Re: mtgox.com is down
Post by: proudhon on February 08, 2012, 03:05:10 PM
HAH!!!! That's awesome...

It's a routine scheduled maintenance outage!!

So, looks like somebody was attempting to capitalize off of the outage.


Title: Re: mtgox.com is down
Post by: Vandroiy on February 08, 2012, 03:05:49 PM
HAH!!!! That's awesome...

It's a routine scheduled maintenance outage!!

WTF? A planned outage that shuts out only the EU, but keeps other people trading?

Genius! That's... I don't know... what a plan.


Title: Re: mtgox.com is down
Post by: proudhon on February 08, 2012, 03:06:24 PM
Ok, restart.  Roll back the last 24 hours.


Title: Re: mtgox.com is down
Post by: Lord F(r)og on February 08, 2012, 03:06:34 PM
sorry, no fun at all


Title: Re: mtgox.com is down
Post by: N12 on February 08, 2012, 03:07:11 PM
HAH!!!! That's awesome...

It's a routine scheduled maintenance outage!!

WTF? A planned outage that shuts out only the EU, but keeps other people trading?

Genius! That's... I don't know... what a plan.
Almost as good as updating their system live.


Title: Re: mtgox.com is down
Post by: btc-hasher on February 08, 2012, 03:07:38 PM
Is it truly a fair market at any given time if you can call an outage and selectively lock out traders in a geographic region?


Title: Re: mtgox.com is down
Post by: Barlog on February 08, 2012, 03:10:03 PM
roll back & give me 5.3 again  ::)


Title: Re: mtgox.com is down
Post by: N12 on February 08, 2012, 03:11:28 PM
Roll back and give me 5.8 again! >:(

Is it truly a fair market at any given time if you can call an outage and selectively lock out traders in a geographic region?

No, it’s a piece of shit, even without Bitcoinica.


Title: Re: mtgox.com is down
Post by: Vandroiy on February 08, 2012, 03:14:44 PM
Randall just messaged me about a page that works:

https://classic.mtgox.com/ (https://classic.mtgox.com/)

It has the old "StartCom" signed key... doing a tracert shows that it is a different server: 72.52.5.81, also at prolexic, so I guess it's legit?


Title: Re: mtgox.com is down
Post by: N12 on February 08, 2012, 03:17:37 PM
The speculators are the consumers in this market. Why don't you guys fix the problem? Demand better service or stop using it!
Yes, but what can I do? There is no market with better liquidity than MtGox, and I need it. Have you heard of the network effect?

Personally, I’ve given up on this monopoly thing on both pools and exchanges a long time ago. Maybe with pools it can change now, but exchanges, no way.

Randall just messaged me about a page that works:

https://classic.mtgox.com/ (https://classic.mtgox.com/)

It has the old "StartCom" signed key... doing a tracert shows that it is a different server: 72.52.5.81, also at prolexic, so I guess it's legit?

Thanks, I remember that URL! Way better than their new design anyway.


Title: Re: mtgox.com is down
Post by: N12 on February 08, 2012, 03:35:35 PM
No! Learn some game theory. I will not switch for the "greater good" if I incur individual losses due to greater spread and lower liquidity.

Here, I have created such a thread myself in May: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=8653.0

That’s simply how your awesome free market works. There is no greater good, and everyone suffers because of it.


Title: Re: mtgox.com is down
Post by: Barlog on February 08, 2012, 04:42:58 PM
roll back & give me 5.3 again  ::)

thanks https://btc-e.com/images/chat/10.png


Title: Re: mtgox.com is down
Post by: brox on February 11, 2012, 12:18:42 PM
Looks like mtgox is down again (Ukraine, DNS does not resolve mtgox.com)


Title: Re: mtgox.com is down
Post by: SaintFlow on February 11, 2012, 12:21:54 PM
Looks like mtgox is down again (Ukraine, DNS does not resolve mtgox.com)

working normaly here


Title: Re: mtgox.com is down
Post by: phelix on February 11, 2012, 04:28:52 PM
Looks like mtgox is down again (Ukraine, DNS does not resolve mtgox.com)

same here, germany; provider: alice/o2

edit: what is the mtgox ip?
edit2: 72.52.5.67  ... does not work for me, though ??

anyway, switched to google dns servers (8.8.8.8 or 8.8.4.4) temporarily and it works again


this is very odd (buying namecoins...  :D)

mtgox.bit is not set up ???   at least not with masterpool

edit3: and bitcoinwatch.com does not work with the google dns   oh boy