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Title: [ANN] FIMK: 2.5G POS, extra block rewards, messaging, asset colors, p2p shopping
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on May 31, 2014, 12:03:32 PM

It's my honor to present you the first 2.5G national distribution cryptocurrency.

FIMK (http://fimk.fi) (FIMKrypto) http://fimk.fi (http://fimk.fi)

Updated Jun 13 2016

Downloadable desktop wallet Lompsa.com (https://lompsa.com) for Windows, Mac, Linux, includes both of the following:

- electrum-like thin client doesn't require java
- full server downloads blockchain and requires java 1.8

https://github.com/fimkrypto/mofowallet/releases

Web wallet on the association's server:

https://lompsa.com
https://wallet.fimk.fi (backup)
https://mofowallet.com (old, multicurrency)

Released by a publicly accountable nonprofit association in a stable EU country, FIMK is extensively customized make from NXT core with several advanced features not widely available in the POS model cryptocurrencies previously:

Through the Lompsa.com client you can access the following functions:

- Create new FIMK accounts
- FIMK transfers, asset transfers
- Instant encrypted p2p messages (off-chain chat)
- Access the Decentralized Asset Exchange
- Issue public or private assets
- Exchange FIMK on the DAE
- Shopping cart and complete purchases on the FIMK Peer Marketplace
- Sell anything on the Decentralized Marketplace
- Create colored accounts (for asset-2-asset trading)
- Blockchain history for your accounts
- Full transaction history of the whole FIMK network
- Block statistics, forging and block rewards

The downloadable application can be used in full node mode, making your workstation a participant in the FIMK p2p network. As a full node, your workstation runs a FIMK server that enhances the operations of the peer network and is eligible for randomly assigned block rewards (currently 100 FIMK) approx. every 45 seconds on average

#Links

  • Forum.fimk.fi (https://forum.fimk.fi) FIMK discussion forum
  • Downloadable FIMK client Lompsa (https://github.com/fimkrypto/mofowallet/releases) (includes server)
  • Latest online wallet (https://lompsa.com/#/start>Lompsa.com[/url)
  • Mofowallet.com (http://https:/www.mofowallet.com/launch.html#/start) (Old wallet)
  • FIMK downloadable server only (https://github.com/fimkrypto/fimk/releases)
  • FIMK decentralized marketplace (https://lompsa.com/#/goods/fim/listing)
  • FIMK NEWS (http://forum.fimk.fi/index.php?board=17.0)
  • Block explorer (https://lompsa.com/#/activity/fim/activity/latest)
  • Exchange BTC asset on FIMK DAE (https://lompsa.com/#/assets/fim/2339799191405258101/trade)
  • Exchange BTC/FIMK on Openledger (http://cryptofresh.com/a/FIMKRYPTO_OPEN.BTC)
  • Trade FIMK on NXT AE (https://www.mofowallet.com/launch.html#/assets/nxt/12404894802398759379/trade)

Merchants can accept FIMK payments by manually customizing a merchant URL at Lompsa.com
Merchant URL example: https://lompsa.com/#/merchant/FIM-BA8U-LVXC-WBFT-49C4S/100000000/1440/Send%20money/Message%20text

# Blockchain & General Info

  • Total FIMK in existence after ~5 years: 1000 million (1 billion)
  • Total FIMK in Genesis block: 666,280,000 (666 million)
  • Genesis block stakeholder funds: 333,140,000 by Jul 1st 2014
  • Genesis block nonprofit association funds: 333,140,000
    • Paid as monthly basic income to all opt-in FIN citizens (http://fimk.fi): 313,000,000
    • Reserved for bonus block rewards, promotion, marketing, bounties: 17,000,000
    • Reserved for organizational costs: 3,140,000
  • Extra POS rewards for block forgers: Block rewards paid from within the protocol to the block forger, every ~45 seconds (until approx 5 years) 333,720,000

# Extra block forger rewards

Each block forger gets both the transaction fees and an extra block reward. There are 4 stages of block rewards:

TOTAL FEE STAGE 1: 177984000
TOTAL FEE STAGE 2: 88992000
TOTAL FEE STAGE 3: 44496000
TOTAL FEE STAGE 4: 22248000
FORGER FEE STAGE CHANGE IN BLOCKS: 889920
  • FORGER FEE STAGE 1: 200 (DAY 0 to DAY 542)
  • FORGER FEE STAGE 2: 100 (DAY 543 to DAY 1087)
  • FORGER FEE STAGE 3: 50 (DAY 1088 to DAY 1631)
  • FORGER FEE STAGE 4: 25 (DAY 1632 to DAY 2174)

- maximum transactions per block: 512
- minimum transaction fee 0.1 FIMK

Krypto Fin ry is prepared to disburse about 3 million FIMK as bonus rewards on round number blocks and other remarkable events.

# Additional Functionality

  • Decentralized encrypted messaging with minimal 0.1 FIMK fee
  • Encrypted FREE off-blockchain chat
  • Alias creation for wallet, fee 1 FIMK
  • Email account format
  • Fee for asset issuing 1000 FIMK
  • Fee for issuing account color 1000 FIMK
  • Private assets
  • Colored accounts
  • Virtual exchange layer provides instant asset exchange order matching
  • Adjustable themes
  • Worldwide language selection

# FIMK Project Schedule

  • 31.5.- 27.6.2014stakeholder donation period (533 BTC donated)
  • 31.5.2014 testnet release
  • 1.7.2014 genesis block distribution
  • 2.7.2014 Wallet public release, software open sourced
  • 1.9.2014 Kryptoradio (http://kryptoradio.koodilehto.fi/) nationwide digital tv transaction broadcast begins
  • 31.10.2014 Re-engineered wallet released at http://mofowallet.com
  • 1.12.2014 -> basic income for Finnish citizens 1000 FIMK / month / opt-in person (authenticated) began
  • 30.03.2015 new FIMK 0.4 with websockets and virtual layer released
  • 11.10.2015 Wallet rebrand to Lompsa, added local translations for Finnish, Polish, Bulgarian
  • 20.01.2016 Email account format
  • June 2016  ***Mystery news upcoming***

# Organization's Role

  • Designs, implements, tests, launches platform
  • Distributes genesis block stakes, extra rewards, bonus rewards
  • Arranges citizen stake distribution, authentication, basic income
  • Coordinates community efforts, development and organization
  • Allocates bounty projects and pays project rewards
  • Develops side projects and promotes FIMK adoption for secure messaging & retail payments
  • Performs minor market stabilization through support purchases / sales when necessary

# Membership in Organization

  • Anyone can apply for membership
  • Members are eligible to join yearly events and meetings
  • Members enjoy privileges in community decision making process
  • Members receive small one time stake of FIMK in exchange for the membership fee
  • Yearly membership fee (EUR) and corresponding FIMK stake to be decided by the board

The association pushes forward the adoption of FIMK for domestic and international trade. FIMK welcomes development of third party services such as exchanges, games and merchant services and is prepared to financially support deployment arrangements.

# Screenshots

# Other material


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Simakki on May 31, 2014, 12:38:00 PM
sounds interesting, but we will see  8)

Hyvä meno! Mihin kerätyt lahjoitukset sitten käytetään ja kuinka paljon odotatte saavanne kerättyä ???


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Anduck on May 31, 2014, 12:44:36 PM
Sounds interesting. I don't like IPOs though... Also why isn't the source code released when the coin is launched? You could take the premine from block #1.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on May 31, 2014, 01:01:13 PM
Hyvä meno! Mihin kerätyt lahjoitukset sitten käytetään ja kuinka paljon odotatte saavanne kerättyä ???
Donations are used to progress the nonprofit association's cause ie. promote the adoption of the currency, and of course to cover costs (and maybe to arrange parties for you members if anything is left  ;)).

We don't yet have an idea of the potential amount of funds raised however because of the fairly prominent escrow contract it could be moderate.

We thought about using the funds to back up the system but the technology for that would have seized the window of opportunity that is already closing.

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Also why isn't the source code released when the coin is launched? You could take the premine from block #1.

In fact it could be released, the current date is there to allow some leeway for the head dev. Premine from block #1 - would that not be visible all over? We are a publicly accountable association in the least corrupted country in the world, operating with our real names. BTW the association gets a "premine" of 1/3 for national distribution for the Finnish citizens - there is little room for fraud in that though as the national distribution will be authenticated through government backed online ID system (TUPAS).


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Anduck on May 31, 2014, 03:34:13 PM
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Also why isn't the source code released when the coin is launched? You could take the premine from block #1.

In fact it could be released, the current date is there to allow some leeway for the head dev. Premine from block #1 - would that not be visible all over? We are a publicly accountable association in the least corrupted country in the world, operating with our real names. BTW the association gets a "premine" of 1/3 for national distribution for the Finnish citizens - there is little room for fraud in that though as the national distribution will be authenticated through government backed online ID system (TUPAS).


I don't mean I think you wouldn't be open with the premine. What happens if/when not every finn claims the coins? Who gets the leftover?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: mediogreFIN on May 31, 2014, 07:02:57 PM
What happens if/when not every finn claims the coins? Who gets the leftover?

All of it is shared as basic income. If less people are registered than we assumed, then few people get more.. if we have millions registered for basic income then the "basic income pool" will be empty much faster than we calculated. None of it goes waste or is misused. This fixes the problem auroracoin had with it's airdrop.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on May 31, 2014, 08:17:14 PM
if we have millions registered for basic income then the "basic income pool" will be empty much faster than we calculated. None of it goes waste or is misused. This fixes the problem auroracoin had with it's airdrop.
Exactly :) It was indeed a revelation to come up with this solution. Much better for everyone.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: aigareth on June 01, 2014, 02:28:50 PM
another fork of nxt?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: mirador17 on June 01, 2014, 02:38:08 PM
I heard that Dgex.com will add this coin. There are currently some promising coins and graviton want to add this shitcoin? Congratulation dear shareholders. This is the beginning oft the end of Dgex.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on June 01, 2014, 02:54:00 PM
I heard that Dgex.com will add this coin. There are currently some promising coins and graviton want to add this shitcoin? Congratulation dear shareholders. This is the beginning oft the end of Dgex.
Thanks for your valuable opinion.

I'm happy for the partnership with DGEX which is likely to be beneficial for all parties.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Rich1970 on June 01, 2014, 04:54:44 PM
I heard that Dgex.com will add this coin. There are currently some promising coins and graviton want to add this shitcoin? Congratulation dear shareholders. This is the beginning oft the end of Dgex.

I'm still holding my shares. This is the beginning of DGEX. Adding any new coin will help the site traffic, trading volume and ultimately increase market share of the exchange.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: mirador17 on June 01, 2014, 05:05:28 PM
I heard that Dgex.com will add this coin. There are currently some promising coins and graviton want to add this shitcoin? Congratulation dear shareholders. This is the beginning oft the end of Dgex.

I'm still holding my shares. This is the beginning of DGEX. Adding any new coin will help the site traffic, trading volume and ultimately increase market share of the exchange.

Of course you hold it, because you can't sell it now. You have paid 100 nxt or more and now the price is around 70.  ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on June 01, 2014, 06:35:19 PM
This thread is about FIMK and not DGEX. DGEX is just the initial distribution partner that's established and enjoys community trust to a level that enables more efficient distribution of the stakeholder allocation of FIMK. I'd appreciate if DGEX issues not related to FIMK distribution would be discussed elsewhere.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Stan Rabbit on June 01, 2014, 11:57:14 PM
Hi,

ive followed your instruction, but i couldnt read anywhere how much btc i have to transfer from blockchain info wallet. Ive just sendet, 0.0001 BTC and my Fimk AccNumber,  ist that ok?

thank you,
hope Fimk will be full succes.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Abel jonh on June 02, 2014, 04:39:47 AM
fork of NXT?I dont think this one can make a success


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on June 02, 2014, 10:30:45 AM
ive followed your instruction, but i couldnt read anywhere how much btc i have to transfer from blockchain info wallet. Ive just sendet, 0.0001 BTC and my Fimk AccNumber,  ist that ok?
Thank you. Every little fraction of BTC helps with spreading out the distribution. Everyone can decide the donation amount for herself - the genesis block will be divided between all donators on the proportion of the total donations. So for instance if the total donation amount ends up to be 3.33 BTC, your 0.0001 BTC will get you about 10000 FIMK.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Stan Rabbit on June 03, 2014, 01:13:50 PM
Oh OK,

but should write it in your IPO Terms,  it isnt visible enough for interessted People how the distrubtion is working,  with payment of a fixed amount or a distrubtion related to single payments how it seems to be now.

So if i would like to pay more now, should i create again a new New Blockchain Wallet or can i use the created one again? i would like to use the created one again. Is that ok?

thx


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: gvans on June 03, 2014, 02:01:16 PM
Any info about possible share sales via dgex? Or even better, you could make it in nxt asset exchange.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on June 04, 2014, 09:16:06 AM
can i use the created one again?
You can use the same FIM-address to send more funds, we'll match it up with your original one eventually.

Thanks for the opinion on the IPO methods, we've received other reports also that it's unclear and will clarify the process soon enough.

FIMK is planned to trade on DGEX but no plans to list on NXT AE. Which purpose would listing there serve, gvans please?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: gvans on June 04, 2014, 11:11:41 AM
FIMK is planned to trade on DGEX but no plans to list on NXT AE. Which purpose would listing there serve, gvans please?

Imo Nxt AE would be just an alternative platform for IPO which would propably provide visibility for different crowds in addition to those who are familiar with dgex. I don't mind using dgex, I do have account there. But as an example I think the volume and visibility NEM has achieved via Nxt AE so far is pretty impressive. Not sure if that would have happened on any other platform. This is not IPO though, but a kind of pre-market for existing stakeholders to play around with their stake before the actual NEM launches.
http://nxtblocks.info/#section/assets_exchange/12465186738101000735

Then again I'm not sure what would be the best way to limit the single user collecting no more than 10% of the stakeholder distribution if it is freely tradable. Maybe by listing only 10% in Nxt AE? Just thinking aloud. And sure you can do without AE, that was just another idea.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Isobel.J on June 06, 2014, 04:13:41 AM
Hello, I would like to consult, fim test coins to July 1 launch official currency, these coins are void test it? There you can get involved in the testing of appropriate incentives account yet? Participation ipo, there are tests to test the account currency, when you are asked to send fim according to this account? No need to use a test or currency account, hope to get your reply, thank you


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on June 06, 2014, 08:40:52 PM
Yes, test coins will be void by launch before July 1st. But you can use the test account for the IPO to receive your stake of the real FIMK.

For participating in IPO please use blockchain.info as instructed at http://fimk.fi/en/allocation.htm

or donate through DGEX.com starting from Monday June 9th.

Hello, I would like to consult, fim test coins to July 1 launch official currency, these coins are void test it? There you can get involved in the testing of appropriate incentives account yet? Participation ipo, there are tests to test the account currency, when you are asked to send fim according to this account? No need to use a test or currency account, hope to get your reply, thank you


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: sky_g on June 09, 2014, 01:32:12 PM
Hi Guys,

I try to contact these guys as per given emails ..No contact.

Krypto FIN ry Administrative Board of Directors:
 
- Svante Lehtinen, President & Chairman of the Board, e-mail eliphaz@fimk.fi
 
- Konsta Gogoljuk, Vice president, e-mail konsta.gogoljuk@gmail.com
 
- Lassi Nokelainen, Secretary & Treasurer, e-mail kummofromrrm@gmail.com

Any other contact of any member who can bother to answer the questions.

There is no Forum where we can go and post the query. Look like wrong investment  ?

Sky


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: blackhatzw on June 09, 2014, 01:35:07 PM
very interesting, hope it's true.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: sky_g on June 09, 2014, 01:52:01 PM
I am wondering when they will contact me.

I thought the response will be quick as they looking for investment but no...disappointment.

Hope they will start looking into repose at initial stage to gain some confidence.

Hope they will do and will contact me.

 


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: FimKrypto on June 09, 2014, 04:34:19 PM
I am wondering when they will contact me.
I thought the response will be quick as they looking for investment but no...disappointment.
Hope they will start looking into repose at initial stage to gain some confidence.
Hope they will do and will contact me.

Hi,

I'm the lead developer of FIMK.

Please be assured that they will contact you shortly.

Maybe I can answer some of your questions?

Edit: The correct email address is konsta.gogoljuk@gmail.com not ***@mail.com


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: sky_g on June 09, 2014, 05:08:24 PM
Hi

Just dropped you the personal message. I send email to correct id konsta.gogoljuk@gmail.com .

If you provide your email address i can contact you directly there  as over here you have to wait for 5 mins between post.

Thanks
Sky


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: warmach on June 09, 2014, 05:18:37 PM
You can now do your IPO donation via DGEX.  I did not see a way to provide the FIMK account number.  Is it necessary?  Or will DGEX create a new Account for us on their exchange when the genesis block happens?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: PL_CoinTrader on June 09, 2014, 05:19:59 PM
As a investor why should I participate in this IPO? What are the differences to Nxt? Why would non-Finnish people use FimKrypto instead of Nxt? Why would Finnish people use Fimkrypto instead of Nxt? Will there be additional features besides the PoW thing? (btw. I like the idea of mixing PoS and PoW)
regards.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: FimKrypto on June 09, 2014, 06:22:02 PM
Hi
Just dropped you the personal message. I send email to correct id konsta.gogoljuk@gmail.com .
If you provide your email address i can contact you directly there  as over here you have to wait for 5 mins between post.
Thanks
Sky

Received it and replied

You can now do your IPO donation via DGEX.  I did not see a way to provide the FIMK account number.  Is it necessary?  Or will DGEX create a new Account for us on their exchange when the genesis block happens?

I tried it to. After logging in to dgex and donating you can see the donation in your history.
It's correct that you cannot enter an account number, he's probably still adding that to dgex.

As a investor why should I participate in this IPO? What are the differences to Nxt? Why would non-Finnish people use FimKrypto instead of Nxt? Why would Finnish people use Fimkrypto instead of Nxt? Will there be additional features besides the PoW thing? (btw. I like the idea of mixing PoS and PoW)
regards.

After the initial IPO (which you need in one form or the other for a POS coin) the remaining 66% of the coins can be earned by running a node or through the basic income mechanism (you need to be from Finland for that). This is a major difference from NXT.

A lot of time has gone into setting up an environment where we can keep track of the latest NXT developments. Part of this is the automated test environment. The reason for staying close to NXT is not just to have the latest and greatest NXT features but also to be able to act fast when a critical bug in NXT is found which requires an emergency software release. I'm not saying there is such a bug in NXT but it's a possibility. All NXT clones will be vulnerable until they patch their code. We can patch FIMK in a matter of hours.

Current features are indeed the mixing of POW/POS and the 30 second block time (instead of NXT 60 seconds). Features to add after the IPO will be decided by the organization members.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: xchrix on June 09, 2014, 06:27:39 PM
looks interesting and i am in :)
if FIM is alive i will integrate it to www.cryptocoincharts.info and www.cryptoassetcharts.info
good luck


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: mediogreFIN on June 09, 2014, 07:43:58 PM
Secretary and treasurer here.

You can now do your IPO donation via DGEX.  I did not see a way to provide the FIMK account number.  Is it necessary?  Or will DGEX create a new Account for us on their exchange when the genesis block happens?

I also believe that DGEX will be having integrated wallet so you will be getting your FIMK on DGEX account. I'm going to check that for you and reply as soon as i get answer (or someone else answers first).

As a investor why should I participate in this IPO? What are the differences to Nxt? Why would non-Finnish people use FimKrypto instead of Nxt? Why would Finnish people use Fimkrypto instead of Nxt? Will there be additional features besides the PoW thing? (btw. I like the idea of mixing PoS and PoW)
regards.

And also if you missed IPO in Nxt and you are trying to find new altcoin to invest in among the first ones, then this is a new change to get in in time.

We might now have as big community as Nxt but we have already some partners to work with, core-group that really invests their time and skill in to this, with faces and names, we already have an exchange that is going to accept FIMK (you know, some coins died because no-one accepted them) and we have dedication.

We are not trying to compete, we are trying to make a difference.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: PL_CoinTrader on June 09, 2014, 09:13:29 PM
That sounds quite promising. I think one huge problem with NXT clones is that it's hard to establish a large and strong community. There is for instance NAS (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=523187.0) which is since a few days more than just a NXT clone with a new client and its own .exe file (so it doesn't run in the browser). But there is basically no community. A coin like FimKrypto could be a game changer since its possible to attract many (Finnish) users to it. (But on the other hand this is what many people thought about Auroracoin, too.)
Are you Finnish yourself?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: mediogreFIN on June 09, 2014, 09:26:51 PM
Top three keypeople are from Finland but we have and are getting some partners in other countries (like DGEX).. also community is for everyone :)

Auroracoin was made by dude in US. People in Island didn't adapt auroracoin.. some of them took the airdrop, changed it to bitcoin as fast as possible (causing hude drop in price) and then trying to get USD or euros to finally have Island Crowns.

We are trying to fix problems with auroracoin by

1) switching to basic income so all of the coins marked for finns will be shared
2) informing people about FIMK.. i personally think that not that many knew about auroracoin

I think it helps that keypeople live here, not other side of the sea :P

I liked idea of auroracoin (but i was bit scpetic) and i like NXT. So combining these two really do it for me.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: elviselvis101 on June 09, 2014, 09:47:13 PM
1.7.2014 genesis block distribution
15.7.2014 open source release

?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on June 09, 2014, 10:12:44 PM
Unfortunately I had to be absent for most of today and not providing info while FIMK was added to the DGEX escrow.

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I did not see a way to provide the FIMK account number.  Is it necessary?  Or will DGEX create a new Account for us on their exchange when the genesis block happens?

DGEX will allocate donators a NXT account, or alternatively you could be able to enter one yourself. The details on whether that's a genuine web wallet are still unclear and in development I think.

Hope they will start looking into repose at initial stage to gain some confidence.
Hope they will do and will contact me.
I'm sorry but I think you are being too hasty in your conclusions. We have a lot of things to do and still answer in much less than 12 hours. Same day response should be considered sufficient with any industry standard.

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Top three keypeople are from Finland but we have and are getting some partners in other countries (like DGEX).. also community is for everyon

Our beloved secretary put it nicely here, although I would amend the "top three key people" definition as we are actually a core team of four;

Eliphaz Fimk - president, manager, developer, program coordinator - FINNISH citizen
FimKrypto - lead tech developer, member - NOT Finnish citizen
mediogreFIN - secretary, public relations, management - FINNISH citizen
Konsta (no BTCTalk name available yet) - vice president,  management, tech development - FINNISH citizen

1.7.2014 genesis block distribution
15.7.2014 open source release
?
What's wrong there? The source may be released earlier, that date is to cover lead dev's back after the busy time of genesis distribution and launch.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: blackhatzw on June 10, 2014, 12:31:34 AM
When can we see the whitepaper?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on June 10, 2014, 12:44:36 AM
When can we see the whitepaper?
Probably after launch when we have time to prepare a professional format white paper and business plan. Much of the basic elements are here:

http://fimk.fi/en/info.htm

But of course, in the modern world a lot more bullshit is needed :D


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Isobel.J on June 10, 2014, 01:39:27 AM
Participate wallet tested gained currency, to July will be cleared, why people can not take the test to obtain the corresponding reward it? dav


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: 9153200 on June 10, 2014, 04:45:30 AM
sounds good. i think more people will see this


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: blackhatzw on June 10, 2014, 06:09:43 AM
It seems there is no innovation except combine NXT with Auroracoin


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: thehun on June 10, 2014, 06:38:39 AM
It seems there is no innovation except combine NXT with Auroracoin

That's my view too. I have been reading all posts and everything on the Fimk site to try to find out why exactly they're calling it a "2.5" coin abd haven't found any real innovation. Guys, do some explaining because at the moment this is just vaporware.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: sky_g on June 10, 2014, 09:10:18 AM
Hi Guys,
 
I found some issue today which i am not sure weather is really issue or may i doing any mistake ?

Yesterday i opened my wallet on http://107.170.145.83:6886/ and noted my account and numeric id.

I made some investment in account and i received confirmation that my donation has been accepted and allocation will be done soon.

Today morning i logged into account using my phrase and my account number changed to something different or is it that i can not user same ids until July allocation has been done  and that is why they gave me different id  (As on login page of Wallet saying in RED "Warning: You are connected to the TestNet. Note that your live FIMK account will have the same password as your TestNet account) ?

Any idea guys ?

Thanks
Sky


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on June 10, 2014, 11:41:09 AM
Today morning i logged into account using my phrase and my account number changed to something different

You are making a mistake in the passphrase. The same passphrase will always enter you into the same FIMK account.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: sky_g on June 10, 2014, 12:15:39 PM
Hi

I open ONLY AND ONLY ONE ACCOUNT and copy the phrase and invested the money in that account.

Please check your personal messages as i send the my account details where i deposited the money.

First i had issue when i send the money (Not your mistake for sure ). After you confirm that share will be go in the account which i mentioned through email i logged in with same phrase and i logged into another account.

I do not want to loose the money even before it is LIVE.

It is your Beta system and i am sure it has some bug which send me to different account.

Thanks
Akash


Today morning i logged into account using my phrase and my account number changed to something different

You are making a mistake in the passphrase. The same passphrase will always enter you into the same FIMK account.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on June 10, 2014, 12:47:23 PM
It seems there is no innovation except combine NXT with Auroracoin
Guys, do some explaining because at the moment this is just vaporware.
All right maybe we have to more prominently display the innovations and Unique Selling Points. I prefer to not get the insulted feeling of vaporware many times any more! FIMK is not a NXT clone, it is a spin-off with substantial innovative features both inside and outside the technology.

FIMK innovations / USPs as compared to NXT (or any other cryptocurrency):

1. Guaranteed Bitcoin-like block reward keeping the POS algorithm security advantages intact

- FIMK brings the Bitcoin-like guaranteed block reward with halving algorithm to the NXT based Proof-of-Stake cryptocurrency. The Proof-of-Stake model traditionally allowed only "mining" or "forging" earnings from transaction fees. FIMK pays 200 coins to the block finder every 30 secs (average) even when there are no transactions. This is not insignificant, it's a major change in algorithm that affects distribution and adoption incentive drastically.


2. The basic income model of FIMK

- the national distribution model doesn't resemble Auroracoin at all. The only connection is the term "national". Auroracoin rode on the hotness of the term without the public understanding that the plan would inevitably lead to a miserable dumping end after the hype of the first national coin was fully exploited. The FIMK basic income model is on first come first served basis, pays them a small amount monthly, and limits the amount of monthly total distribution. FIMK is designed to attract more active users instead of more active dumpers. We've never seen anything like this in the crypto world, and very little of it in the traditional national politics worldwide either. It's a new frontier in the attempt to achieve more effectively working macroeconomic structural models. Consider that term. It's not bullshit.

3. streamlined testnet allowing independent development AND addition of NXT features through code "hot swap" facility

- the automated testnet is NOT a simple addition of web bots that make payments from account to another. It's a comprehensible integration suite prepared with the deep insight of a professional java enterprise level application coder. We can implement individual changes to the FIMK codebase, and we can patch it with the latest NXT updates in the matter of hours. All this while the testnet is humming in the background performing millions of transactions in order to ensure that if there's a small hidden fault in the system (either FIMK or NXT) we are notified of it immediately.

4. 30 second block target.

- not a trivial change, the halving of NXT's one minute target brings FIMK more closely to retail sales application. One minute is too long to wait on the counter. 30 seconds is not. While instant transactions (planned NXT feature, not in the foreseeable near future) are absent this blockchain level improvement is significant for real world adoption prospects

5. National community potential

- did you know that Finland has the highest number of Bitcoin users in the world relative to the number of citizens? Yet this aspect has not been tapped inside the country. There is A SINGLE bitcoin exchanger serving Finns, and not widespread cultivation of the potential for aspiring opportunities from such a dynamic audience. FIMK aims to leverage the power of the community by bringing in something we can work for together, letting the strong national pride flourish along on the side.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: PL_CoinTrader on June 10, 2014, 02:47:22 PM
I "donated" about one Btc via Dgex now. The project seems quite promising and I like it to see that there are people working on it who have actually a plan which is very rare for Nxt forks. :D


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on June 10, 2014, 03:53:52 PM
looks interesting and i am in :)
if FIM is alive i will integrate it to www.cryptocoincharts.info and www.cryptoassetcharts.info
good luck
"If" should of course read "when". But thanks anyway, looking forward to see the how interesting the charts will form after launch date ;)

I "donated" about one Btc via Dgex now. The project seems quite promising and I like it to see that there are people working on it who have actually a plan which is very rare for Nxt forks. :D
Thanks for your trust. I agree the early NXT forks have messed up the image of NXT and its likes that was not great to start with. The technology behind it is still truly great and FIMK is now going to fix the rest.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: wizzardTim on June 10, 2014, 03:58:28 PM
So i just create a dgex account and invest? What is the deadline?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on June 10, 2014, 04:30:54 PM
So i just create a dgex account and invest? What is the deadline?
Yes DGEX is the simplest, or use blockchain.info as instructed here: http://fimk.fi/en/allocation.htm

Deadline is Friday June 27th 23:59 GMT.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: ivy on June 10, 2014, 04:32:17 PM
good project


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: vincentvincent on June 10, 2014, 08:39:56 PM
Very interesting project!


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: PondSea on June 10, 2014, 08:56:08 PM

Upon clicking on 'Confirm' you agree that:

- you are at least 15 years of age
- you are donating cryptocurrency to Krypto FIN nonprofit association - DGEX.com acts as the public image escrow for the donation and carries no other responsibility than delivering the donations to Krypto FIN ry and allocating the donator a stake of the FIMK currency according to their transacted proportion of the total donations amount
- participating in this offering not illegal in your jurisdiction
- this is a HIGH RISK transaction and it is possible to lose part or all of the funds allocated to your donation.


Even with dgex as escrow it sounds like they will just hand over the BTC without a second thought. Can we get a forum escrow?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: GoldenEye on June 10, 2014, 09:35:46 PM
The given MD5 checksum does not not match the calculated checksum from client software download (http://81.4.106.149/clients/fimk.zip)!!! Can you check it, please?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on June 11, 2014, 06:38:54 AM
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Even with dgex as escrow it sounds like they will just hand over the BTC without a second thought. Can we get a forum escrow?

Apparently we have a different level of reading comprehension...

DGEX.com acts as the public image escrow for the donation and carries no other responsibility than delivering the donations to Krypto FIN ry and allocating the donator a stake of the FIMK currency according to their transacted proportion of the total donations amount

The idea of escrow is that your money is forwarded by an intermediary party, who you can trust more than the final receiver. DGEX doesn't pay FIMK the BTC until we deliver the FIMK to their customers. It's understandable if you don't trust FIMK, but if you don't trust DGEX (who is a forum member since several years) then we're running out of ways to help you.

The given MD5 checksum does not not match the calculated checksum from client software download (http://81.4.106.149/clients/fimk.zip)!!! Can you check it, please?

There was an old checksum... thanks for letting me know, updated!


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: RitterRunkel on June 11, 2014, 02:23:11 PM
It is your Beta system and i am sure it has some bug which send me to different account.
Looking at your posts here and elsewhere (e.g. sky_g@nextcoin.org (https://nextcoin.org/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=12439)), it seems you're either very very very unlucky or pretty beta yourself.

Curious where FIMK is going, I'm in as well, let's see. =)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: HarriHirsch on June 11, 2014, 03:08:52 PM
Sounds interesting.

I think, I will join...

How do you identify the finnish citizens for paying the basic income?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: gvans on June 11, 2014, 03:38:17 PM
Good publicity, but pretty misleading title

http://dcmagnates.com/will-this-time-be-different-nxts-fimk/


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: sky_g on June 11, 2014, 03:53:04 PM
It is your Beta system and i am sure it has some bug which send me to different account.
Looking at your posts here and elsewhere (e.g. sky_g@nextcoin.org (https://nextcoin.org/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=12439)), it seems you're either very very very unlucky or pretty beta yourself.

Curious where FIMK is going, I'm in as well, let's see. =)

No issue for me to begin Beta...I am very new to this and if i have question i will ask. Look like you are from core development team of BTC.



Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on June 11, 2014, 06:15:57 PM
How do you identify the finnish citizens for paying the basic income?
Finland has a comprehensible electronic ID database and application interface used by banks, which we're gonna tap into.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: GoldenEye on June 11, 2014, 08:22:16 PM
Can you send some FIMK for testing?

FIM-ECWF-QM88-RPHR-4K4QD


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on June 12, 2014, 06:15:26 PM
You were sent some FIMK last night.

You can also use the faucet from http://fimk.fi/links.htm

Can you send some FIMK for testing?

FIM-ECWF-QM88-RPHR-4K4QD


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: funbug on June 13, 2014, 06:12:55 PM
http://107.170.145.83:6886/ go to FORK !!!!


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on June 13, 2014, 08:58:44 PM
Right, fork on two public spare testnet nodes, please use https://wallet.fimk.fi:6886/ for tests. To get an account number it doesn't matter if you use a forked node.

Dev took a rare time off just at the "right" moment...

http://107.170.145.83:6886/ go to FORK !!!!


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: funbug on June 14, 2014, 01:23:40 AM
Right, fork on two public spare testnet nodes, please use https://wallet.fimk.fi:6886/ for tests. To get an account number it doesn't matter if you use a forked node.

Dev took a rare time off just at the "right" moment...

http://107.170.145.83:6886/ go to FORK !!!!

My node https://176.31.88.127:6886/

Account ID:   7709777777102744927
New Address Format:   FIM-KVCZ-3B4Q-3EJ8-84PZP
Balance:   21'891.18997569 FIM
Unconfirmed Balance:   21'891.18997569 FIM
Guaranteed Balance:   19'125.18997569 NXT
Effective Balance:   19'125 FIM
Public Key:   859717a1bd2c48e91089f6c0e57e6c3913bec63c8a55439e289eb1bf05fead22

https://wallet.fimk.fi:6886/

Account ID:   7709777777102744927
New Address Format:   FIM-KVCZ-3B4Q-3EJ8-84PZP
Balance:   21'891.18997569 FIM
Unconfirmed Balance:   21'891.18997569 FIM
Guaranteed Balance:   19'125.18997569 NXT
Effective Balance:   19'125 FIM
Public Key:   859717a1bd2c48e91089f6c0e57e6c3913bec63c8a55439e289eb1bf05fead22

http://107.170.145.83:6886/

Account ID:   7709777777102744927
New Address Format:   FIM-KVCZ-3B4Q-3EJ8-84PZP
Balance:   21'603.18997569 FIM
Unconfirmed Balance:   21'603.18997569 FIM
Guaranteed Balance:   115'708.11141849 NXT
Effective Balance:   115'708 FIM
Public Key:   859717a1bd2c48e91089f6c0e57e6c3913bec63c8a55439e289eb1bf05fead22


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: allwelder on June 14, 2014, 04:15:12 AM
GCInc for escrow?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: noashh on June 14, 2014, 12:20:00 PM
Looks promising, I'm in, good luck to the FIMK staff!


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: MINIGO on June 14, 2014, 01:24:46 PM
clone nxt?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: tj303 on June 14, 2014, 06:43:51 PM
Looks promising, I'm in, good luck to the FIMK staff!

+1
I'm in as well.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: casx on June 15, 2014, 11:19:50 AM
i like the extra forger block reward system!


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on June 17, 2014, 05:29:02 AM
GCInc for escrow?
Yes, DGEX is the escrow.

i like the extra forger block reward system!

Good, so do I. Interesting dynamics to be seen for sure.

There's a scammer thread on this forum, copied directly from our opening post, included stakeholder allocation details with a fake blockchain.info account. They added the magic word IPO to the header, which FIMK doesn't want to do as for legal reasons we are only taking donations.

Does this copycat scamming happen to other launching coins, or do these fraudsters see something of value that the general audience necessarily doesn't? ;)



Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Griceles on June 17, 2014, 06:34:53 AM
The block reward system for the forging looks interesting but I would prefer that the block reward be on an increasing trend instead of declining so that it would be more well distributed between the  early adopters and the masses.
Also, the early adopters have an incentive to stay vested and be forging for a longer term rather than cashing out early. Perhaps the developers can consider reversing the amount on the block reward, something like below?

# Extra block forger rewards

Each block forger gets both the transaction fees and an extra block reward that halves every ~309 days (889.920 blocks). There are 4 stages:

•Stage 1. 25 FIMK (Total 177.984.000) (DAY 0 to DAY 308)
•Stage 2. 50 FIMK (Total 88.992.000) (DAY 309 to DAY 618)
•Stage 3. 100 FIMK (Total 44.496.000) (DAY 619 to DAY 928)
•Stage 4. 200 FIMK (Total 22.248.000) (DAY 929 to DAY 1238)

Just my 2 cents worth


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on June 18, 2014, 07:28:38 AM
Also, the early adopters have an incentive to stay vested and be forging for a longer term rather than cashing out early. Perhaps the developers can consider reversing the amount on the block reward, something like below?

Thanks for the insightful suggestion! We've considered various block reward plans, and the chosen one which resembles that of Bitcoin's was evaluated to be the most suitable of the ones currently available. There are aspects such as inflation related to the basic income and such.

The plans are now locked in as this is what's promised to the donators. However later when there's an active community and developers available, even large changes like block reward alterations are possible to push through decentralized voting that the governing nonprofit association intents to make available for some major decisions if necessary.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: PL_CoinTrader on June 18, 2014, 10:20:19 AM
More than 80 btc raised already! People are obviously interested in this project although the activity in this thread seems pretty low.
Two questions: Will there be a limit of donations? What are you going to do with the raised btc?
kind regards.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on June 18, 2014, 02:56:32 PM
More than 80 btc raised already! People are obviously interested in this project although the activity in this thread seems pretty low.
Well DGEX clients mostly... maybe they just know how to make profit? ;)

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Will there be a limit of donations?
No other than max 10% of stake donations (3% of total FIMK) per person


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What are you going to do with the raised btc?

Run the nonprofit association for at least 4 years, pay bounties, cover development & promotion costs, arrange supporting projects (several under way).


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: megashira1 on June 18, 2014, 05:15:37 PM
Looks like the project will generate well over 100btc as many are waiting on the sidelines till the last day to determine the amount they will need to contribute to get X% of total distribution.

Project seems promising. I am keeping an eye on it.

M



Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: mediogreFIN on June 18, 2014, 06:27:16 PM
Quote
Quote
What are you going to do with the raised btc?

Run the nonprofit association for at least 4 years

That association:

- arranges events
- arranges competitions & promocontests
- communicates with community (voting polls, takes comments)
- promotes FIMK (mainly in Finland)
- is official entity for Finnish people to trust
- is open and democratic (tells when and how money has been spend, asks community how it can be spent better so everyone can benefit)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on June 18, 2014, 08:25:51 PM
Welcome to The Official FIMK forum that has been pre-released at http://forum.fimk.fi

Goodies such as FIMK tipping and transfers from within your forum account will be added in July.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: HarriHirsch on June 18, 2014, 08:44:49 PM
Quote
Quote
What are you going to do with the raised btc?

Run the nonprofit association for at least 4 years

That association:

- arranges events
- arranges competitions & promocontests
- communicates with community (voting polls, takes comments)
- promotes FIMK (mainly in Finland)
- is official entity for Finnish people to trust
- is open and democratic (tells when and how money has been spend, asks community how it can be spent better so everyone can benefit)

Nice project, I am in. This could be a country-coin that works.

What about international promotion? If FIMK is only known in Finland the finnish people would not be able to make full use of it.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: mediogreFIN on June 20, 2014, 09:35:06 AM
What about international promotion? If FIMK is only known in Finland the finnish people would not be able to make full use of it.

I can only speak for myself.

Associations main focus is in Finland but FIMK is not restricted. We are going to do international promo-stuff (this forum is one example, fimk.fi's forums english-area and partnership with DGEX).

We already have some contacts in other parts of Europe helping us. So it is quite possible that FIMK might succeed in other county.

*Updated after head of associations comment*



Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: funbug on June 21, 2014, 07:52:40 AM
Please help?

• 313 million FIMK paid as basic income for every opt-in Finnish citizen >15 yrs of age - will participate in forging till 1.10.2014 -> basic income for Finnish citizens 100 FIMK / month / opt-in person (id'd)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: josegines on June 22, 2014, 11:15:45 AM
Hi,
I have donated across Blockchain to obtain my coins.

He had not read the note that you have at the end of:

http://fimk.fi/en/allocation.htm
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IMPORTANT: Do not make other transactions with the FIMK genesis block distribution account you just created, because that could cause a security hazard when the live FIMK network is launched. If you have not made outgoing transactions on your account, there is no risk of transactions replay between networks. You can create multiple FIMK accounts without costs, so please use other accounts for testing the FIMK features and functionality.

that recommends not to do outgoing transactions with the wallet that has been used for the donation.

Unfortunately I have used the wallet to receive coins of the faucet and have sent them to another account to try.

what will the day of the share-out spend?

Am not I going to receive coins for having made an outgoing transaction?

I am worried because I have donated a significant amount for me and thought that it would have no problem transferring from my account FIMK.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on June 22, 2014, 07:29:01 PM
Am not I going to receive coins for having made an outgoing transaction?
You're going to receive your FIMK genesis stake just fine. It might be we'll have to change your receiving account, as there's a risk of transaction replays between test network and live network. I'm going to consult the head dev about the degree of the risk and whether adjustmetns are needed.

What about international promotion? If FIMK is only known in Finland the finnish people would not be able to make full use of it.
FIMKrypto is mostly an international project. Our partnership with DGEX has already ensured there will be a large international audience to start with, and a considerable portion of FIMK activities will be directed towards promoting international use. If the project succeeds as well as planned, everyone will benefit and the Finnish people will benefit more. Just like what happened with NOKIA that reigned the world for a good decade :D


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: josegines on June 22, 2014, 08:04:50 PM
Am not I going to receive coins for having made an outgoing transaction?
You're going to receive your FIMK genesis stake just fine. It might be we'll have to change your receiving account, as there's a risk of transaction replays between test network and live network. I'm going to consult the head dev about the degree of the risk and whether adjustmetns are needed.
Then can I be calm until July 1?.

If there is some problem with the account (with outgoing transactions), will you notify it in this forum?

I have entered the official forum FIMK but I have seen very little information. Here there is more enough.

If it is necessary to change the account of destination, I would like to know how they would do it. It is to be calmer. Big mistake not have read the last paragraph.

Thank you very much.



Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: twistelaar on June 23, 2014, 12:17:45 AM
DEV you are here? How can I invest? Ive send you a message, please respond. Thanks


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: signingoff on June 23, 2014, 12:28:22 PM
National coin?
Has anyone contacted the authority of Finland to confirm if it is illegal?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: gvans on June 23, 2014, 01:40:07 PM
National coin?
Has anyone contacted the authority of Finland to confirm if it is illegal?

http://thelifestream.net/forums/images/smilies/Not_sure_if_serious.jpg


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: gvans on June 23, 2014, 01:44:25 PM


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: PL_CoinTrader on June 23, 2014, 06:06:11 PM
Looks very nice.  ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on June 23, 2014, 06:27:41 PM
DEV you are here? How can I invest? Ive send you a message, please respond. Thanks
From your DGEX account or then through blockchain.info as instructed here http://fimk.fi/en/allocation.htm

National coin?
Has anyone contacted the authority of Finland to confirm if it is illegal?
It's not "officially" national (yet). We are Finnish nationals thus we can launch a national coin and no law can forbid us that right :)

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gvans FIMK logo version1 300x300 pixels
Nice logo! We already have the coin symbol but will probably run a community logo contest to obtain the best logo after launch.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Costner on June 24, 2014, 03:02:25 AM
About 200btcs are collected.
This is just a clone coin.
Ah, think about ROI


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Costner on June 24, 2014, 03:04:19 AM
About 200btcs are collected.
This is just a clone coin.
Ah, think about ROI

And I don't know why it is 2.5G, maybe the author can call it 10 G to attract more ppl.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: HarriHirsch on June 24, 2014, 01:13:09 PM
Only some days left till start  ;D

I have some questions:

I donated via dgex, how can I can my coins when FIMKis launched? How is my dgex-account linked to a FIMK-account?

Will dgex be available as an exchange for FIMK? Is there a schedule for going to an exchange?

This times country coin will work, I am sure...


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on June 24, 2014, 03:41:59 PM
And I don't know why it is 2.5G, maybe the author can call it 10 G to attract more ppl.

http://fimk.fi/en/faq.htm

- Why 2.5G?

Bitcoin was the first cryptoprotocol of the 1st generation and its purpose was originally limited to being a payment instrument. New protocols have been built around Bitcoin's idea of decentralized peer to peer payment network. FIMK is based on one of the most promising adaptations of the p2p protocol, NXT. Unlike many other alternative cryptoprotocols, NXT is not technically based on bitcoin. NXT's source code, architecture and algorithms are completely original, thus it can be called a "2G"-cryptosystem. The FIMK system contains some significant changes that can metaphorically be counted as a leap of half a generation, thus we call FIMK a "2.5G"-cryptosystem.


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I donated via dgex, how can I can my coins when FIMKis launched? How is my dgex-account linked to a FIMK-account?
Will dgex be available as an exchange for FIMK? Is there a schedule for going to an exchange?

DGEX will arrange and inform donators about the procedures to obtain your stake.
DGEX is supposed to exchange FIMK but the certain date to start is not known. There's coming up a Finnish exchange in partnership with DGEX and this may have an effect.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: HarriHirsch on June 25, 2014, 11:59:02 AM

I like it. Good color.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: cmason22 on June 26, 2014, 03:21:35 AM
With Finland population so low, is the coin popularity limited?

I'm not trolling, I'm genuinely considering a donation but I see that there are already significant donations and I wonder if the market cap will have to be quite high to give good returns and I'm not sure that the coin can reach those heights? 

Do you have any more info on how you are going to market the coin?  Or any plans to have it reach beyond Finland borders?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on June 26, 2014, 07:14:55 AM
With Finland population so low, is the coin popularity limited?
No. The low population means better prospects for non-Finnish participants as the audience receiving special benefits (basic income) is limited.

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I wonder if the market cap will have to be quite high to give good returns and I'm not sure that the coin can reach those heights?
We expect it to reach significant heights. Nobody is sure at this stage.

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Do you have any more info on how you are going to market the coin?  Or any plans to have it reach beyond Finland borders?

FIMK is designed for international use. We're keeping most plans under a hood until launch.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Simakki on June 26, 2014, 07:57:29 AM
With Finland population so low, is the coin popularity limited?
No. The low population means better prospects for non-Finnish participants as the audience receiving special benefits (basic income) is limited.

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I wonder if the market cap will have to be quite high to give good returns and I'm not sure that the coin can reach those heights?
We expect it to reach significant heights. Nobody is sure at this stage.

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Do you have any more info on how you are going to market the coin?  Or any plans to have it reach beyond Finland borders?

FIMK is designed for international use. We're keeping most plans under a hood until launch.

How many btc´s has been donated to Fimk so far?

I made my donation yesterday and really looking forward to see how this gonna succeed.

Have you already contacted finnish media outlets with this subject?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: josegines on June 26, 2014, 08:18:03 AM
Am not I going to receive coins for having made an outgoing transaction?
You're going to receive your FIMK genesis stake just fine. It might be we'll have to change your receiving account, as there's a risk of transaction replays between test network and live network. I'm going to consult the head dev about the degree of the risk and whether adjustmetns are needed.



Hi,
Has responded the dev on this topic?

I would like to confirm, before tomorrow 27, that the accounts that have outgoing transactions may receive their coins without problems

Will we receive the coins such as the rest or has prepared some procedure to transfer these coins to another account?

Thanks


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: sanbashiyi on June 26, 2014, 08:20:07 AM
will keep on eye  this coin


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: PL_CoinTrader on June 26, 2014, 08:32:20 AM
About 200btcs are collected.
This is just a clone coin.
Ah, think about ROI

To have at least a little ROI Fimk needs to have a price of about 66 Satoshis which would be a market capitalisation of about $250.000(Considering the initial distribution of 660M Coins), if I calculated correctly. I think Fimk can make this happen, I could even imagine that it could go up to 1M. But time will tell.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: TheMightyX on June 26, 2014, 09:10:50 AM
When will you people learn, no one really wants to support a currency that is going to be given away to a bunch of people in a different country.

Also what stops you from saying you have sent out all the money to FIN citizens but secretly keeping 20% of all those funds?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Simakki on June 26, 2014, 09:16:44 AM
When will you people learn, no one really wants to support a currency that is going to be given away to a bunch of people in a different country.

Also what stops you from saying you have sent out all the money to FIN citizens but secretly keeping 20% of all those funds?

They are just giving away 1/3 of the coins and the time period for the distribution is 4years. Devs are doing this with real names and FIMK is a registered association.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: dance on June 26, 2014, 06:49:52 PM
333 millions coins are given to stakeholders. Will other 666 millions be participating in staking and receiving block rewards?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on June 27, 2014, 09:56:50 AM
You'll receive coins without problem on July 1st. If you have made outgoing tx against our warning, there's an unknown magnitude risk of transaction replay attack on your live account until you transfer the coins to another account. We've estimated the risk to be small and will not be able to take measures to mitigate it.


Hi,
Has responded the dev on this topic?

I would like to confirm, before tomorrow 27, that the accounts that have outgoing transactions may receive their coins without problems

Will we receive the coins such as the rest or has prepared some procedure to transfer these coins to another account?

Thanks

333 millions coins are given to stakeholders. Will other 666 millions be participating in staking and receiving block rewards?
Not until they're released into circulation through block rewards and basic income. After they are released, they're just standard coins.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: gvans on June 27, 2014, 12:30:40 PM
Gaining some traction in Finnish media  8)
http://www.verkkomedia.org/news.asp?mode=1&id=11093


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Simakki on June 27, 2014, 12:40:01 PM
Gaining some traction in Finnish media  8)
http://www.verkkomedia.org/news.asp?mode=1&id=11093

Nice one, hope that we get more and more attention as launch getting nearer.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: josegines on June 27, 2014, 02:20:39 PM


You'll receive coins without problem on July 1st. If you have made outgoing tx against our warning, there's an unknown magnitude risk of transaction replay attack on your live account until you transfer the coins to another account. We've estimated the risk to be small and will not be able to take measures to mitigate it.


Hi,
Has responded the dev on this topic?

I would like to confirm, before tomorrow 27, that the accounts that have outgoing transactions may receive their coins without problems

Will we receive the coins such as the rest or has prepared some procedure to transfer these coins to another account?

Thanks



Well, then he confirms to me that I am going to receive the coins on July 1 and understand, from what he says to me, that if I transfer these coins to another account I already will not have any problem.

I hope to have sufficient time to do this deal, which I hope to do on the same 1st.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: walnutter on June 27, 2014, 02:41:40 PM
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Krypto FIN ry Administrative Board of Directors:
 
- Svante Lehtinen, President & Chairman of the Board, e-mail eliphaz@fimk.fi
 
- Konsta Gogoljuk, Vice president, e-mail konsta.gogoljuk@gmail.com
 
- Lassi Nokelainen, Secretary & Treasurer, e-mail kummofromrrm@gmail.com


Onko tässä YLE:n arkistosta löytyvässä haastattelussa oleva IT-alan yrittäjä Svante Lehtinen sama henkilö kuin ylläoleva?

http://yle.fi/elavaarkisto/artikkelit/pikavippiparonit_51400.html#media=51401 - 10 minuutin kohdalla.

Is this the same Svante Lehtinen as above mentioned President & Chairman of the Board? At the 10 minute mark on the video.



Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Simakki on June 27, 2014, 02:52:04 PM
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Krypto FIN ry Administrative Board of Directors:
 
- Svante Lehtinen, President & Chairman of the Board, e-mail eliphaz@fimk.fi
 
- Konsta Gogoljuk, Vice president, e-mail konsta.gogoljuk@gmail.com
 
- Lassi Nokelainen, Secretary & Treasurer, e-mail kummofromrrm@gmail.com


Onko tässä YLE:n arkistosta löytyvässä haastattelussa oleva IT-alan yrittäjä Svante Lehtinen sama henkilö kuin ylläoleva?

http://yle.fi/elavaarkisto/artikkelit/pikavippiparonit_51400.html#media=51401 - 10 minuutin kohdalla.

Is this the same Svante Lehtinen as above mentioned President & Chairman of the Board? At the 10 minute mark on the video.


...


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on June 27, 2014, 04:57:58 PM
Onko tässä YLE:n arkistosta löytyvässä haastattelussa oleva IT-alan yrittäjä Svante Lehtinen sama henkilö kuin ylläoleva?

http://yle.fi/elavaarkisto/artikkelit/pikavippiparonit_51400.html#media=51401 - 10 minuutin kohdalla.

Is this the same Svante Lehtinen as above mentioned President & Chairman of the Board? At the 10 minute mark on the video.

Yes it is me, the current director of Krypto Fin ry interviewed as a "knowledgeable" customer to Finnish consumer funding businesses about four years ago.

Please continue Finnish discussion at forum.fimk.fi thank you.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: realthe on June 27, 2014, 11:12:48 PM
Donation has finished!!!
Total:225(blockchain)+267(dgex)=492BTC                    
Very Huge!


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on June 27, 2014, 11:37:52 PM
In fact GMT time is one hour behind BST so officially we still accept donations a further 23 minutes or so.

..aaand we're at over 500 BTC :)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: gvans on June 27, 2014, 11:52:11 PM
Could get over 600btc with last minute whales chipping in for 10%. Insane  8)
Btw is there any plans for coherent visual image and marketing? Also the logo -as is - is interesting but in 16x16 pix coinmarketcap-size it will look like a grey dot I'm afraid.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on June 28, 2014, 12:12:43 AM
The donation period has closed with more than 700 BTC donated. There is some controversy regarding the last 200 BTC coming in the last moments on DGEX and this will have to be cleared in the following days whether all of it is accepted or not.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: qqfcwr on June 28, 2014, 12:16:30 AM

To clear some do not meet the requirements of


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: illodin on June 28, 2014, 12:24:40 AM
I think the donation has been manipulated!!!!!!!

How? Why?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on June 28, 2014, 12:39:53 AM
Anyone can think what they want, but it would be nice to have some basis on such accusations. We are stripping manipulators as well as we can. Apart from the last 200 BTC there preliminarily seemed to be no controversy on the stakes.

The Fimk BTC account is here: https://blockchain.info/address/1FimkEtZy7xEXEmWLxWtWEwPUztNLk3VGx

The DGEX reserve account is also public somewhere and you can probably verify the incoming 300 something BTC for Friday. We have absolutely no reason to doubt the authenticity of DGEX escrow.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: xibeijan on June 28, 2014, 12:41:39 AM
I support this coin.  FIMK is essentially NXT with block rewards.  It solves one of NXT's big downsides.  Very interesting and non-trivial.

+10 for FIMK


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: qqfcwr on June 28, 2014, 12:42:45 AM
Anyone can think what they want, but it would be nice to have some basis on such accusations. We are stripping manipulators as well as we can. Apart from the last 200 BTC there preliminarily seemed to be no controversy on the stakes.

The Fimk BTC account is here: https[Suspicious link removed]mWLxWtWEwPUztNLk3VGx

The DGEX reserve account is also public somewhere and you can probably verify the incoming 300 something BTC for Friday. We have absolutely no reason to doubt the authenticity of DGEX escrow.
That is 500btc, did not you say 700btc ah, please undesirable btc refund repaying


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: xibeijan on June 28, 2014, 03:12:08 AM
From news here http://fimk.fi/en/

"Stakeholder donation period closed. FIMK received more than 500 BTC from donators. Thank you!"

I only see 233.35346845 BTC at the IPO address https://blockchain.info/address/1FimkEtZy7xEXEmWLxWtWEwPUztNLk3VGx
Your website does not show any other IPO addresses, so where did the extra 267 BTC come from?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: realthe on June 28, 2014, 03:15:27 AM
From news here http://fimk.fi/en/

"Stakeholder donation period closed. FIMK received more than 500 BTC from donators. Thank you!"

I only see 233.35346845 BTC at the IPO address https[Suspicious link removed]mWLxWtWEwPUztNLk3VGx
Your website does not show any other IPO addresses, so where did the extra 267 BTC come from?

dgex


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: xibeijan on June 28, 2014, 03:16:08 AM
From news here http://fimk.fi/en/

"Stakeholder donation period closed. FIMK received more than 500 BTC from donators. Thank you!"

I only see 233.35346845 BTC at the IPO address https[Suspicious link removed]mWLxWtWEwPUztNLk3VGx
Your website does not show any other IPO addresses, so where did the extra 267 BTC come from?

dgex

That's not good enough.  Where is this visible?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: kikeda on June 28, 2014, 03:16:55 AM
From news here http://fimk.fi/en/

"Stakeholder donation period closed. FIMK received more than 500 BTC from donators. Thank you!"

I only see 233.35346845 BTC at the IPO address https[Suspicious link removed]mWLxWtWEwPUztNLk3VGx
Your website does not show any other IPO addresses, so where did the extra 267 BTC come from?

dgex

That's not good enough.  Where is this visible?

dgex serves as escrow, i also invested via dgex.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: xibeijan on June 28, 2014, 03:24:46 AM
From news here http://fimk.fi/en/

"Stakeholder donation period closed. FIMK received more than 500 BTC from donators. Thank you!"

I only see 233.35346845 BTC at the IPO address https[Suspicious link removed]mWLxWtWEwPUztNLk3VGx
Your website does not show any other IPO addresses, so where did the extra 267 BTC come from?

dgex

That's not good enough.  Where is this visible?

dgex serves as escrow, i also invested via dgex.

Where is this visible on the dgex or fimk websites?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: realthe on June 28, 2014, 03:28:58 AM
From news here http://fimk.fi/en/

"Stakeholder donation period closed. FIMK received more than 500 BTC from donators. Thank you!"

I only see 233.35346845 BTC at the IPO address https[Suspicious link removed]mWLxWtWEwPUztNLk3VGx
Your website does not show any other IPO addresses, so where did the extra 267 BTC come from?

dgex

That's not good enough.  Where is this visible?

dgex serves as escrow, i also invested via dgex.

Where is this visible on the dgex or fimk websites?

Login dgex. You can see the notice of fimk escrow.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: xibeijan on June 28, 2014, 03:51:44 AM
From news here http://fimk.fi/en/

"Stakeholder donation period closed. FIMK received more than 500 BTC from donators. Thank you!"

I only see 233.35346845 BTC at the IPO address https[Suspicious link removed]mWLxWtWEwPUztNLk3VGx
Your website does not show any other IPO addresses, so where did the extra 267 BTC come from?

dgex

That's not good enough.  Where is this visible?

dgex serves as escrow, i also invested via dgex.

Where is this visible on the dgex or fimk websites?

Login dgex. You can see the notice of fimk escrow.

Thanks.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: smaragda on June 28, 2014, 05:20:14 AM
There is some controversy regarding the last 200 BTC coming in the last moments on DGEX and this will have to be cleared in the following days whether all of it is accepted or not.

In order to clear this you would need to do forensic accounting analysis of DGEX holdings...  how likely is that to happen???    NOT   ::)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Simakki on June 28, 2014, 05:25:21 AM
There is some controversy regarding the last 200 BTC coming in the last moments on DGEX and this will have to be cleared in the following days whether all of it is accepted or not.

In order to clear this you would need to do forensic accounting analysis of DGEX holdings...  how likely is that to happen???    NOT   ::)

Haven't They already found that last 200btc were too suspicious and reduced that amount of total amount gathered?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: dance on June 28, 2014, 07:37:22 AM
It's a good idea to decrease 10% limit. It was too easy to make double payment (through dgex and blockchain) and by that to receive ~20% of coins. And if sockpuppets were used, it is possible that one person have even more than 20% of IPO.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Simakki on June 28, 2014, 07:40:32 AM
There is some controversy regarding the last 200 BTC coming in the last moments on DGEX and this will have to be cleared in the following days whether all of it is accepted or not.

In order to clear this you would need to do forensic accounting analysis of DGEX holdings...  how likely is that to happen???    NOT   ::)

Haven't They already found that last 200btc were too suspicious and reduced that amount of total amount gathered?

Not only the last 200BTC.

So you are assuming more similiar suspicious activity ? How you end up in that assumption, any prove?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: realthe on June 28, 2014, 10:25:13 AM
You can PM him to add the account number.Don't worry.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: PL_CoinTrader on June 28, 2014, 11:44:18 AM
It's a good idea to decrease 10% limit. It was too easy to make double payment (through dgex and blockchain) and by that to receive ~20% of coins. And if sockpuppets were used, it is possible that one person have even more than 20% of IPO.

this. Reduce it at least to 5% limit.
But so far: Congrats, 500 btc is a lot money for development, promoting and other stuff. Fimk can be huge with that amazing fundraising.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: onlinepro on June 28, 2014, 12:02:52 PM
If someone want to buy small amounts of FIMKs feel free to PM me and make offer.
(You can PM now, but I will send coins after 1st June (Because investors get their coins at that day))


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: xibeijan on June 28, 2014, 01:20:23 PM
We really want to know the total amount of BTC received in IPO minus suspicious amounts received through dgex.  We need an official announcement and full audit-able list in order to be open and transparent.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: onlinepro on June 28, 2014, 01:24:01 PM
We really want to know the total amount of BTC received in IPO minus suspicious amounts received through dgex.  We need an official announcement and full audit-able list in order to be open and transparent.

Answer is 500BTC
700BTC-200BTC=500BTC


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: xibeijan on June 28, 2014, 02:40:09 PM
We really want to know the total amount of BTC received in IPO minus suspicious amounts received through dgex.  We need an official announcement and full audit-able list in order to be open and transparent.

Answer is 500BTC
700BTC-200BTC=500BTC

Round numbers.  Is this confirmed by official FIMK devs?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: onlinepro on June 28, 2014, 02:49:07 PM
We really want to know the total amount of BTC received in IPO minus suspicious amounts received through dgex.  We need an official announcement and full audit-able list in order to be open and transparent.

Answer is 500BTC
700BTC-200BTC=500BTC

Round numbers.  Is this confirmed by official FIMK devs?

Yeah:

The donation period has closed with more than 700 BTC donated. There is some controversy regarding the last 200 BTC coming in the last moments on DGEX and this will have to be cleared in the following days whether all of it is accepted or not.

And last 200BTC were suspicious so they were deducted:


UPDATE June 28th 2014 - Stakeholder donation period has ended -total of over 500 BTC was donated and will be announced after verification!


You can read it from official website too.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: qbd1313 on June 28, 2014, 04:42:02 PM
wow,700btc,cant believe..


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on June 28, 2014, 05:04:41 PM
The last 150 to 200 BTC will be likely cancelled, exact total tally is still under scrutiny with DGEX until Monday.

We can already see no other cases approaching near the 10% are apparent, closer inspection will confirm this but probably there'll be no need to lower the % for other than the final 200 BTC donator who is suspected of trying to use several accounts (and if that is the case he will not be granted more than the second highest donator of some 30 BTC).



Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: PL_CoinTrader on June 28, 2014, 06:52:44 PM
To all stakeholders: You can get out of your caves, the ipo is over and now it's on us to show some activity in this thread.  ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: xibeijan on June 28, 2014, 07:09:50 PM
The last 150 to 200 BTC will be likely cancelled, exact total tally is still under scrutiny with DGEX until Monday.

We can already see no other cases approaching near the 10% are apparent, closer inspection will confirm this but probably there'll be no need to lower the % for other than the final 200 BTC donator who is suspected of trying to use several accounts (and if that is the case he will not be granted more than the second highest donator of some 30 BTC).



Thanks.  We're looking forward to some concrete numbers.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: zhanlang13 on June 29, 2014, 02:37:47 AM
The last 150 to 200 BTC will be likely cancelled, exact total tally is still under scrutiny with DGEX until Monday.

We can already see no other cases approaching near the 10% are apparent, closer inspection will confirm this but probably there'll be no need to lower the % for other than the final 200 BTC donator who is suspected of trying to use several accounts (and if that is the case he will not be granted more than the second highest donator of some 30 BTC).

yeah,agree


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: FuckJapan on June 29, 2014, 05:50:40 AM
这么几页回复你就撸了700btc。你是哪里的黑庄吗
一个没有创新的国家币,怎么会有这么多人投。
你们是猴子请来的逗比嘛?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: 13536475762 on June 29, 2014, 06:07:34 AM
More than 200 BTC was not accepted, will directly lead to a most people no longer believe in this team


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: kikeda on June 29, 2014, 06:10:42 AM
More than 200 BTC was not accepted, will directly lead to a most people no longer believe in this team

huh? its not accepted cause its over the deadline.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: smaragda on June 29, 2014, 06:22:03 AM
More than 200 BTC was not accepted, will directly lead to a most people no longer believe in this team

Nonsense.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: cisahasa on June 29, 2014, 06:29:26 AM
ipo
premine
scam
=lot of idiots


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: FuckJapan on June 29, 2014, 06:42:46 AM
yeah. i think so too
ipo
premine
scam
=lot of idiots


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: jztxeno on June 29, 2014, 07:13:31 AM
More than 200 BTC was not accepted, will directly lead to a most people no longer believe in this team

Idiot gtfo.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: NXN_NFD_? on June 29, 2014, 07:17:31 AM
This ipo is huge IMO.How the ROI will be?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: dance on June 29, 2014, 07:23:07 AM
yeah. i think so too
ipo
premine
scam
=lot of idiots
Will see :)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: xlcus on June 29, 2014, 07:36:07 AM
There are so many idiots that the cheapers are not enough.   ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Simakki on June 29, 2014, 07:39:44 AM

Gtfo with this utter crap, do you really think that these guys are doing Scam after we all known their names and information.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: dance on June 29, 2014, 07:44:20 AM

Gtfo with this utter crap, do you really think that these guys are doing Scam after we all known their names and information.
Easy Simakki, I'm an investor.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Simakki on June 29, 2014, 08:33:18 AM

Gtfo with this utter crap, do you really think that these guys are doing Scam after we all known their names and information.
Easy Simakki, I'm an investor.

NP, Lets focus on launch. Just couple of days and we might see something BIG!


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: walnutter on June 29, 2014, 09:23:30 AM
Eliphaz, could you answer to my pm i sent yesterday?

I have also sent email two days ago and no answer to that either.



Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: lovely89 on June 29, 2014, 10:40:46 AM
When can we expect to see a guide or a link to set up a FIMK wallet for the real coins?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on June 29, 2014, 10:42:41 AM
Eliphaz, could you answer to my pm i sent yesterday?
Answered. It might take 12+ hours to answer on PM during Saturday evening - Sunday morning and it really wouldn't be necessary to come in with public requests meanwhile ;)

Quote
I have also sent email two days ago and no answer to that either.
I have not received such email.

All special cases will be handled to the best of our ability even if you don't hear a response from us immediately. If required you'll be contacted for more details. If you have sent us BTC and have a FIMK account you WILL receive your FIMK.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: gvans on June 29, 2014, 10:45:23 AM
More than 200 BTC was not accepted, will directly lead to a most people no longer believe in this team

huh? its not accepted cause its over the deadline.

FYI, on the Finnish forum they state that there was 4 x 50btc investments in the last minute from the same ip-address. So not over deadline but pretty clear attempt from single person to aquire bigger stake than accepted.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: chengren on June 29, 2014, 11:39:33 AM
The last 150 to 200 BTC will be likely cancelled, exact total tally is still under scrutiny with DGEX until Monday.

We can already see no other cases approaching near the 10% are apparent, closer inspection will confirm this but probably there'll be no need to lower the % for other than the final 200 BTC donator who is suspected of trying to use several accounts (and if that is the case he will not be granted more than the second highest donator of some 30 BTC).



support!


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: chengren on June 29, 2014, 11:49:18 AM

hi:dev

I wrote an article introducing FIMK on Chinese big bitcoin website

http://www.yibite.com/blog-23482-436.html

it is now at the home page.

and build QQ group:FIMK芬兰币交流群  160521613 


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: dance on June 29, 2014, 12:02:27 PM

hi:dev

I wrote an article introducing FIMK on Chinese big bitcoin website

http://www.yibite.com/blog-23482-436.html

it is now at the home page.

and build QQ group:FIMK芬兰币交流群  160521613 
▦ 币种算法: PoS+PoW
There are no proof of work.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Djinou94 on June 29, 2014, 03:44:07 PM
Too late for invest?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: onlinepro on June 29, 2014, 03:51:09 PM
Too late for invest?


Yes, sorry :(
But you can pm me your offer if you want to buy small amount from me?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: chengren on June 29, 2014, 04:00:56 PM

hi:dev

I wrote an article introducing FIMK on Chinese big bitcoin website

http://www.yibite.com/blog-23482-436.html

it is now at the home page.

and build QQ group:FIMK芬兰币交流群  160521613 
▦ 币种算法: PoS+PoW
There are no proof of work.

One of  this post's topic is "POW-like rewards", so...


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: xibeijan on June 29, 2014, 04:50:31 PM

hi:dev

I wrote an article introducing FIMK on Chinese big bitcoin website

http://www.yibite.com/blog-23482-436.html

it is now at the home page.

and build QQ group:FIMK芬兰币交流群  160521613  
▦ 币种算法: PoS+PoW
There are no proof of work.

One of  this post's topic is "POW-like rewards", so...

That just means there's a block reward.  FIMK is still purely POS, which is great for the environment.  FIMK is like NXT on steroids.  There's real block rewards for years to come!!!  Arguably one of the biggest downsides to NXT.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: dance on June 29, 2014, 05:01:09 PM

hi:dev

I wrote an article introducing FIMK on Chinese big bitcoin website

http://www.yibite.com/blog-23482-436.html

it is now at the home page.

and build QQ group:FIMK芬兰币交流群  160521613 
▦ 币种算法: PoS+PoW
There are no proof of work.

One of  this post's topic is "POW-like rewards", so...
Yes, rewards but no 'work'. So it is POS with additional rewards during first years of coin existence.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on June 29, 2014, 09:54:58 PM
We still have a handful of donations that are missing their FIMK account. If you read this and recognize the blockchain.info transaction, please contact me through PM to get your stake sorted in time. You'll be required to make a small confirmation deposit from the same Bitcoin account you sent the donation from.

The unclear transactions:

2014-06-25 19:56:12,MISSING,0.60000000 BTC,txid 017df7f7cc9ee426f706066afb6408044cdb00e22951d8780f5f095bee7d022e
2014-06-26 06:37:55,MISSING,0.03800000 BTC,txid 8e5bd761d4e25a6647c139f3ea1cae95a5e55363029ba2a4edb0e290d9366d03
2014-06-26 09:15:22,MISSING,0.02310000 BTC,txid a162ff3a99ebda650c2af0454e0ba9770b758e4c3bc97831240b8b0749bd5ad7
2014-06-26 19:01:50,MISSING,0.91590000 BTC,txid 69d40d5a9aa6ed66930578b85043a488e28a804a71fad66cd6eb26e177f4908f
2014-06-27 08:58:51,MISSING,0.30000000 BTC,txid d757ecd35a13cc14ee84045425ac0f1603fb5668275a8116c4310e2cc15ffec5
2014-06-27 14:12:16,MISSING,0.02000000 BTC,txid b80ad6c028283918c0de7a95c294ceb4b2b1883924dd1bf540754f4cece3a57f
2014-06-27 17:44:39,MISSING,0.04630220,BTC,txid bf39b4c3fed56f27b742ae572c5a5f9b0430769748dc5f56d2b0d8bcb821c313

 


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: PilotofBTC on June 29, 2014, 11:53:23 PM
I assume if we used dgex for escrow wouldn't be in that list? Also, coins there will be deposited to the dgex account?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: kikeda on June 30, 2014, 12:32:52 AM
I assume if we used dgex for escrow wouldn't be in that list? Also, coins there will be deposited to the dgex account?

most likely, probably dgex will exchange it after the coin is distributed.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: loveyouforever on June 30, 2014, 02:43:54 AM
This is a really long-term project, the coin price will be up gradually.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: loveyouforever on June 30, 2014, 02:45:39 AM
When the coin will be distributed, what time at 1.7.2014 ? UTC 00:00?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: newpeled1986 on June 30, 2014, 08:58:32 AM
@ Eliphaz Fimk

Will you reconsider not releasing the Source code on July 15?
(I think this is a big "threat" for FIMK investors) and will just lead to more FIMK clones.
In my opinion you should wait at list 90 days before releasing the source code.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on June 30, 2014, 02:17:26 PM
When can we expect to see a guide or a link to set up a FIMK wallet for the real coins?
After launch in early July.

I assume if we used dgex for escrow wouldn't be in that list? Also, coins there will be deposited to the dgex account?
DGEX will assign you a real FIMK account.

When the coin will be distributed, what time at 1.7.2014 ? UTC 00:00?
Evening, probably not before 6 PM GMT.

Will you reconsider not releasing the Source code on July 15?
(I think this is a big "threat" for FIMK investors) and will just lead to more FIMK clones.
I understand this concern but we are confident the FIMK organization, model and arrangements are so strong that any threat from possible clones for FIMK's success is minimal.

The source code is likely to be published earlier than July 15th.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: xibeijan on June 30, 2014, 02:25:11 PM
@ Eliphaz Fimk

Will you reconsider not releasing the Source code on July 15?
(I think this is a big "threat" for FIMK investors) and will just lead to more FIMK clones.
In my opinion you should wait at list 90 days before releasing the source code.


+1

Release source code later, much later.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: xibeijan on June 30, 2014, 02:27:55 PM
We are still waiting for the final numbers and details from the IPO that show both the non-escrow and escrow funds received.  They are supposed to be posted today.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on June 30, 2014, 05:16:46 PM
Total accepted donations 533.0380646 BTC

Blockchain.info 191 donations, 225.5324219 BTC
DGEX.com 240 donators, 307.50564270 BTC

Donator numbers are preliminary and may slightly change before genesis block distribution.

Blockchain.info donations

29.99900000
16.00000000
15.05164743
10.00000000
09.99980000
08.00000000
08.00000000
04.83200000
04.73500000
04.73000000
03.99980000
03.70000000
03.40000000
03.40000000
03.25000000
03.00000000
03.00000000
02.80000000
02.00000000
02.00000000
02.00000000
01.99980000
01.80000000
01.75000000
01.70000000
01.70000000
01.66000000
01.63200000
01.60000000
01.58100000
01.50000000
01.50000000
01.50000000
01.50000000
01.50000000
01.50000000
01.50000000
01.50000000
01.50000000
01.50000000
01.50000000
01.49980000
01.48000000
01.47050000
01.47000000
01.40000000
01.17130000
01.10000000
01.01000000
01.00000000
01.00000000
01.00000000
01.00000000
01.00000000
00.99990000
00.99980000
00.99970000
00.98020948
00.91590000
00.89400000
00.85430000
00.80000000
00.80000000
00.72000000
00.70007903
00.69350000
00.60000000
00.60000000
00.52000000
00.51000000
00.50000000
00.50000000
00.50000000
00.50000000
00.50000000
00.50000000
00.50000000
00.50000000
00.50000000
00.49980000
00.49980000
00.49970000
00.45760000
00.45120000
00.45080000
00.40000000
00.39532612
00.36087957
00.34000000
00.33363353
00.33333333
00.33333300
00.31000000
00.30000000
00.30000000
00.30000000
00.27000000
00.25000000
00.25000000
00.25000000
00.25000000
00.24900000
00.24000000
00.23880000
00.22960000
00.22610000
00.22530000
00.22460000
00.22270000
00.22240000
00.22200000
00.22145281
00.22000000
00.21680000
00.21540000
00.20000000
00.20000000
00.20000000
00.20000000
00.20000000
00.20000000
00.19980000
00.19980000
00.19500000
00.19000000
00.18980000
00.17000000
00.16000000
00.15539021
00.15515000
00.15500000
00.15000000
00.14803200
00.14000000
00.12980000
00.12900000
00.12000000
00.12000000
00.11566997
00.11300000
00.11215736
00.11000000
00.10000000
00.10000000
00.10000000
00.10000000
00.09990000
00.09980000
00.09900000
00.09800000
00.06450000
00.05000000
00.05000000
00.04990000
00.04980000
00.04630220
00.03800000
00.03800000
00.03420000
00.03000000
00.03000000
00.02500000
00.02480000
00.02374654
00.02310000
00.02200000
00.02140000
00.02010000
00.02000000
00.02000000
00.02000000
00.01980000
00.01900000
00.01706282
00.01530000
00.01400000
00.01020000
00.01000000
00.01000000
00.01000000
00.01000000
00.00900000
00.00625840
00.00344000
00.00150000
00.00129331
00.00100000
00.00042479
00.00020000
00.00010000
00.00010000

DGEX.com aggregate donations

   29.99900000
   20.42019000
   17.14000000
   16.97697800
   15.99927000
   14.00000000
   12.00000000
   11.33708200
   10.60325200
   10.00000000
   8.50000000
   5.30000000
   5.29807200
   5.26796800
   5.00000000
   4.80345900
   4.32390000
   4.08000000
   4.00000000
   3.84490000
   3.76980000
   3.64158000
   3.30406100
   3.23500000
   3.00000000
   3.00000000
   3.00000000
   2.99980000
   2.90000000
   2.75000000
   2.60622800
   2.13000000
   2.00217000
   2.00000100
   2.00000000
   2.00000000
   1.73750000
   1.69623700
   1.50000000
   1.43538700
   1.37450310
   1.20000000
   1.17930100
   1.13219300
   1.10450600
   1.02034700
   1.00000000
   1.00000000
   1.00000000
   1.00000000
   1.00000000
   1.00000000
   1.00000000
   1.00000000
   1.00000000
   0.97977100
   0.93000000
   0.90000000
   0.88757490
   0.73026700
   0.71983000
   0.71005600
   0.63431000
   0.59600000
   0.59600000
   0.56191600
   0.55000000
   0.53860200
   0.50477600
   0.50020240
   0.50010000
   0.50000000
   0.50000000
   0.45901000
   0.45441700
   0.40000000
   0.40000000
   0.38007900
   0.36517900
   0.36227700
   0.35134900
   0.35000000
   0.35000000
   0.35000000
   0.33000000
   0.32000000
   0.30255990
   0.30167000
   0.30000000
   0.30000000
   0.29986100
   0.28000000
   0.26000000
   0.25791700
   0.25100000
   0.25000000
   0.25000000
   0.25000000
   0.25000000
   0.25000000
   0.25000000
   0.24304800
   0.22222220
   0.21950000
   0.21520000
   0.21000000
   0.21000000
   0.20000000
   0.20000000
   0.20000000
   0.20000000
   0.20000000
   0.20000000
   0.20000000
   0.20000000
   0.20000000
   0.19760900
   0.19630000
   0.19200000
   0.19000000
   0.19000000
   0.19000000
   0.18800000
   0.18780000
   0.18000000
   0.17300000
   0.16143500
   0.15307100
   0.14503200
   0.14000000
   0.13920000
   0.13611500
   0.13498000
   0.13410000
   0.13264000
   0.13074700
   0.12831600
   0.12457000
   0.12000000
   0.11690000
   0.11419000
   0.11200000
   0.11050000
   0.11000000
   0.10104500
   0.10008000
   0.10000600
   0.10000000
   0.10000000
   0.10000000
   0.10000000
   0.10000000
   0.10000000
   0.10000000
   0.10000000
   0.10000000
   0.09900000
   0.09254000
   0.09000000
   0.08798400
   0.08645900
   0.08381500
   0.08366800
   0.08000000
   0.07500000
   0.07322900
   0.07218100
   0.07027900
   0.06171400
   0.06000000
   0.05847200
   0.05770000
   0.05662500
   0.05653400
   0.05500000
   0.05388300
   0.05267700
   0.05009400
   0.05000000
   0.05000000
   0.05000000
   0.04643000
   0.04400000
   0.04000000
   0.04000000
   0.04000000
   0.03500000
   0.03401400
   0.03121680
   0.03100000
   0.03100000
   0.03000000
   0.02650000
   0.02640800
   0.02500000
   0.02344900
   0.02271890
   0.02220000
   0.02029900
   0.02000000
   0.02000000
   0.02000000
   0.02000000
   0.01553000
   0.01318100
   0.01200000
   0.01118000
   0.01007600
   0.01000000
   0.01000000
   0.01000000
   0.01000000
   0.01000000
   0.01000000
   0.00900000
   0.00820000
   0.00775000
   0.00704400
   0.00600000
   0.00600000
   0.00500000
   0.00500000
   0.00500000
   0.00492900
   0.00400000
   0.00367900
   0.00360000
   0.00325150
   0.00300900
   0.00266300
   0.00234500
   0.00220900
   0.00200000
   0.00200000
   0.00193300
   0.00186100
   0.00158400
   0.00101600
   0.00099700
   0.00050000

There was a single donator harshly exceeding the 10% of total rule through a total of 202 BTC transferred to Krypto Fin ry. This person took initiative in contacting us, thus it was agreed to adjust his total donation amount to match the second highest donator's 29.999 BTC.

In addition to refunding the extra for the largest donator, two small transfers that came in after the deadline were not accepted.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: smaragda on June 30, 2014, 05:52:12 PM
Total accepted donations 533.0380646 BTC

Sounds good...  how long till 1 FIM = $1.5?   ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: kikeda on June 30, 2014, 06:15:02 PM
Total accepted donations 533.0380646 BTC

Sounds good...  how long till 1 FIM = $1.5?   ;D

lawl. ill be retired by then.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: onlinepro on June 30, 2014, 06:24:23 PM
Total accepted donations 533.0380646 BTC

Sounds good...  how long till 1 FIM = $1.5?   ;D

lawl. ill be retired by then.

When it is 1500$ I can retire too.
Waiting for it.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: xibeijan on June 30, 2014, 08:18:10 PM
Great post and great transparency.  Very professional to reject invalid donations.  Well done!  FIMK is off to a great start.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: onlinepro on June 30, 2014, 08:25:03 PM
Great post and great transparency.  Very professional to reject invalid donations.  Well done!  FIMK is off to a great start.

Yeah, and it isn't easy to get over 500BTC donations, before coin is even released.
That's why I think this will be huge.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: xibeijan on June 30, 2014, 08:45:27 PM
Great post and great transparency.  Very professional to reject invalid donations.  Well done!  FIMK is off to a great start.

Yeah, and it isn't easy to get over 500BTC donations, before coin is even released.
That's why I think this will be huge.

there is definitely something major behind it.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Malooka on June 30, 2014, 09:37:20 PM
I assume if we used dgex for escrow wouldn't be in that list? Also, coins there will be deposited to the dgex account?

Yes, how will this work and when will we see it?

DGEX is awful at letting people know about things.  I'm still out hundreds of NXT because of an incorrect transaction - weeks later, no response from DGEX on here or their official email.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: realthe on July 01, 2014, 03:01:10 AM
Total accepted donations 533.0380646 BTC

Blockchain.info 191 donations, 225.5324219 BTC
DGEX.com 240 donators, 307.50564270 BTC

Donator numbers are preliminary and may slightly change before genesis block distribution.

Blockchain.info donations

29.99900000
16.00000000
15.05164743
10.00000000
09.99980000
08.00000000
08.00000000
04.83200000
04.73500000
04.73000000
03.99980000
03.70000000
03.40000000
03.40000000
03.25000000
03.00000000
03.00000000
02.80000000
02.00000000
02.00000000
02.00000000
01.99980000
01.80000000
01.75000000
01.70000000
01.70000000
01.66000000
01.63200000
01.60000000
01.58100000
01.50000000
01.50000000
01.50000000
01.50000000
01.50000000
01.50000000
01.50000000
01.50000000
01.50000000
01.50000000
01.50000000
01.49980000
01.48000000
01.47050000
01.47000000
01.40000000
01.17130000
01.10000000
01.01000000
01.00000000
01.00000000
01.00000000
01.00000000
01.00000000
00.99990000
00.99980000
00.99970000
00.98020948
00.91590000
00.89400000
00.85430000
00.80000000
00.80000000
00.72000000
00.70007903
00.69350000
00.60000000
00.60000000
00.52000000
00.51000000
00.50000000
00.50000000
00.50000000
00.50000000
00.50000000
00.50000000
00.50000000
00.50000000
00.50000000
00.49980000
00.49980000
00.49970000
00.45760000
00.45120000
00.45080000
00.40000000
00.39532612
00.36087957
00.34000000
00.33363353
00.33333333
00.33333300
00.31000000
00.30000000
00.30000000
00.30000000
00.27000000
00.25000000
00.25000000
00.25000000
00.25000000
00.24900000
00.24000000
00.23880000
00.22960000
00.22610000
00.22530000
00.22460000
00.22270000
00.22240000
00.22200000
00.22145281
00.22000000
00.21680000
00.21540000
00.20000000
00.20000000
00.20000000
00.20000000
00.20000000
00.20000000
00.19980000
00.19980000
00.19500000
00.19000000
00.18980000
00.17000000
00.16000000
00.15539021
00.15515000
00.15500000
00.15000000
00.14803200
00.14000000
00.12980000
00.12900000
00.12000000
00.12000000
00.11566997
00.11300000
00.11215736
00.11000000
00.10000000
00.10000000
00.10000000
00.10000000
00.09990000
00.09980000
00.09900000
00.09800000
00.06450000
00.05000000
00.05000000
00.04990000
00.04980000
00.04630220
00.03800000
00.03800000
00.03420000
00.03000000
00.03000000
00.02500000
00.02480000
00.02374654
00.02310000
00.02200000
00.02140000
00.02010000
00.02000000
00.02000000
00.02000000
00.01980000
00.01900000
00.01706282
00.01530000
00.01400000
00.01020000
00.01000000
00.01000000
00.01000000
00.01000000
00.00900000
00.00625840
00.00344000
00.00150000
00.00129331
00.00100000
00.00042479
00.00020000
00.00010000
00.00010000

DGEX.com aggregate donations

   29.99900000
   20.42019000
   17.14000000
   16.97697800
   15.99927000
   14.00000000
   12.00000000
   11.33708200
   10.60325200
   10.00000000
   8.50000000
   5.30000000
   5.29807200
   5.26796800
   5.00000000
   4.80345900
   4.32390000
   4.08000000
   4.00000000
   3.84490000
   3.76980000
   3.64158000
   3.30406100
   3.23500000
   3.00000000
   3.00000000
   3.00000000
   2.99980000
   2.90000000
   2.75000000
   2.60622800
   2.13000000
   2.00217000
   2.00000100
   2.00000000
   2.00000000
   1.73750000
   1.69623700
   1.50000000
   1.43538700
   1.37450310
   1.20000000
   1.17930100
   1.13219300
   1.10450600
   1.02034700
   1.00000000
   1.00000000
   1.00000000
   1.00000000
   1.00000000
   1.00000000
   1.00000000
   1.00000000
   1.00000000
   0.97977100
   0.93000000
   0.90000000
   0.88757490
   0.73026700
   0.71983000
   0.71005600
   0.63431000
   0.59600000
   0.59600000
   0.56191600
   0.55000000
   0.53860200
   0.50477600
   0.50020240
   0.50010000
   0.50000000
   0.50000000
   0.45901000
   0.45441700
   0.40000000
   0.40000000
   0.38007900
   0.36517900
   0.36227700
   0.35134900
   0.35000000
   0.35000000
   0.35000000
   0.33000000
   0.32000000
   0.30255990
   0.30167000
   0.30000000
   0.30000000
   0.29986100
   0.28000000
   0.26000000
   0.25791700
   0.25100000
   0.25000000
   0.25000000
   0.25000000
   0.25000000
   0.25000000
   0.25000000
   0.24304800
   0.22222220
   0.21950000
   0.21520000
   0.21000000
   0.21000000
   0.20000000
   0.20000000
   0.20000000
   0.20000000
   0.20000000
   0.20000000
   0.20000000
   0.20000000
   0.20000000
   0.19760900
   0.19630000
   0.19200000
   0.19000000
   0.19000000
   0.19000000
   0.18800000
   0.18780000
   0.18000000
   0.17300000
   0.16143500
   0.15307100
   0.14503200
   0.14000000
   0.13920000
   0.13611500
   0.13498000
   0.13410000
   0.13264000
   0.13074700
   0.12831600
   0.12457000
   0.12000000
   0.11690000
   0.11419000
   0.11200000
   0.11050000
   0.11000000
   0.10104500
   0.10008000
   0.10000600
   0.10000000
   0.10000000
   0.10000000
   0.10000000
   0.10000000
   0.10000000
   0.10000000
   0.10000000
   0.10000000
   0.09900000
   0.09254000
   0.09000000
   0.08798400
   0.08645900
   0.08381500
   0.08366800
   0.08000000
   0.07500000
   0.07322900
   0.07218100
   0.07027900
   0.06171400
   0.06000000
   0.05847200
   0.05770000
   0.05662500
   0.05653400
   0.05500000
   0.05388300
   0.05267700
   0.05009400
   0.05000000
   0.05000000
   0.05000000
   0.04643000
   0.04400000
   0.04000000
   0.04000000
   0.04000000
   0.03500000
   0.03401400
   0.03121680
   0.03100000
   0.03100000
   0.03000000
   0.02650000
   0.02640800
   0.02500000
   0.02344900
   0.02271890
   0.02220000
   0.02029900
   0.02000000
   0.02000000
   0.02000000
   0.02000000
   0.01553000
   0.01318100
   0.01200000
   0.01118000
   0.01007600
   0.01000000
   0.01000000
   0.01000000
   0.01000000
   0.01000000
   0.01000000
   0.00900000
   0.00820000
   0.00775000
   0.00704400
   0.00600000
   0.00600000
   0.00500000
   0.00500000
   0.00500000
   0.00492900
   0.00400000
   0.00367900
   0.00360000
   0.00325150
   0.00300900
   0.00266300
   0.00234500
   0.00220900
   0.00200000
   0.00200000
   0.00193300
   0.00186100
   0.00158400
   0.00101600
   0.00099700
   0.00050000

There was a single donator harshly exceeding the 10% of total rule through a total of 202 BTC transferred to Krypto Fin ry. This person took initiative in contacting us, thus it was agreed to adjust his total donation amount to match the second highest donator's 29.999 BTC.

In addition to refunding the extra for the largest donator, two small transfers that came in after the deadline were not accepted.

Great work! Waiting for rocket up!


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: kikeda on July 01, 2014, 03:22:18 AM
Great post and great transparency.  Very professional to reject invalid donations.  Well done!  FIMK is off to a great start.

Yeah, and it isn't easy to get over 500BTC donations, before coin is even released.
That's why I think this will be huge.

there is definitely something major behind it.

Agreed.  Definitely has a chance to be big.

Block rewards, and wider distribution could give NXT a run for its money (and yes, I have some money in NXT and FIMK).

Very interested to see how strong the FIMK network will be.  EVERYBODY with FIMK should be forging for chance at those big block rewards.

yeah with 500btc as funds for development and pr, this should be huge.  ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: tobeaj2mer01 on July 01, 2014, 03:25:45 AM
@DEV, If we use DGEX to invest, how can we claim our coins, DGEX will do it for us automatically, correct?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: liyuxuanfc on July 01, 2014, 03:33:09 AM
Coin launch time


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on July 01, 2014, 08:46:38 AM
Launch will be late tonight GMT time, lots of things to do still for genesis block and we need the DGEX stakeholder information sorted out to grant their stake to genuine FIMK accounts.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: gvans on July 01, 2014, 10:24:20 AM
Launch will be late tonight GMT time, lots of things to do still for genesis block and we need the DGEX stakeholder information sorted out to grant their stake to genuine FIMK accounts.

AFAIK Dgex has not collected any information so far for actual donators' FIMK accounts for distribution. I don't even have FIMK-wallet address yet. Only donated via my dgex-account.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: mtbitcoin on July 01, 2014, 12:04:04 PM
Launch will be late tonight GMT time, lots of things to do still for genesis block and we need the DGEX stakeholder information sorted out to grant their stake to genuine FIMK accounts.

Why not have the coins distributed to the DGEX FIMK account balances instead? And dgex users can then either withdraw, hodl or trade their coins?

Cheers


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: bitcoinpaul on July 01, 2014, 05:28:47 PM
Launch will be late tonight GMT time, lots of things to do still for genesis block and we need the DGEX stakeholder information sorted out to grant their stake to genuine FIMK accounts.

Why not have the coins distributed to the DGEX FIMK account balances instead? And dgex users can then either withdraw, hodl or trade their coins?

Cheers

+1


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on July 01, 2014, 05:44:50 PM
While that could technically 'work', I agree with approach to distribute genesis all to individual donators accounts.
A genesis distribution to a single DGEX account would be 57% of total IPO stake.  Looks very bad, and would need a constant explanation why genesis distribution so skewed.
Better to let FIMK organizers do as they plan.

Exactly my words! FIMK doesn't want to tie up too tightly with DGEX after launch.

Being in contact with the head dev now constantly, the final stakes list is ready and he has initated the processes for launch. They take hours - our network and initial automation systems are much more extensive (call it professional if you prefer) than NXT was and it really feels like a countdown to launching a rocket to the moon... or giving birth to something significant. I now might have a taste of the particular psychological pressure mothers have to endure going through a long labor process. :o Fortunately the physical side is not nearly as severe.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: 103deltafox on July 01, 2014, 05:57:40 PM
So when & how will DGEX be getting our (the investors) individual account numbers to you? I haven't found anywhere in my account to upload or submit my account number to receive the stake I paid into DGEX?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: PilotofBTC on July 01, 2014, 06:17:30 PM
Why not have the coins distributed to the DGEX FIMK account balances instead? And dgex users can then either withdraw, hodl or trade their coins?

While that could technically 'work', I agree with approach to distribute genesis all to individual donators accounts.

A genesis distribution to a single DGEX account would be 57% of total IPO stake.  Looks very bad, and would need a constant explanation why genesis distribution so skewed.

Better to let FIMK organizers do as they plan.

That's the way escrow works. FIMK should be sent to dgex, dgex then sends bitcoin to devs and FIMK to each investors FIMK balance on dgex. Otherwise, dgex would have to verify FIMK went to each investor before releasing btc. That could be a nightmare for them.

The explanation is simple, it was an escrow agent.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: mellorbo on July 01, 2014, 06:26:36 PM
Why not have the coins distributed to the DGEX FIMK account balances instead? And dgex users can then either withdraw, hodl or trade their coins?

While that could technically 'work', I agree with approach to distribute genesis all to individual donators accounts.

A genesis distribution to a single DGEX account would be 57% of total IPO stake.  Looks very bad, and would need a constant explanation why genesis distribution so skewed.

Better to let FIMK organizers do as they plan.

That's the way escrow works. FIMK should be sent to dgex, dgex then sends bitcoin to devs and FIMK to each investors FIMK balance on dgex. Otherwise, dgex would have to verify FIMK went to each investor before releasing btc. That could be a nightmare for them.

The explanation is simple, it was an escrow agent.
agreed

otherwise there was no point using dgex as an escrow if we cant receive our coins there as we (through dgex) did not get any form of tx code or any way to differentiate our transactions. the only way i can see it working is the fimk have to be sent to dgex for the fimk investors. it is then down to the stake holders to dump/sell or withdraw to a wallet and hold


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on July 01, 2014, 06:35:12 PM
DGEX gives each donator a unique FIMK address, and this list has been forwarded to our distribution phase. Thus every DGEX accountholder gets a real FIMK account with their stake on it, and DGEX is able to verify that the FIMK genesis account distribution matches their FIMK address list and amounts created by DGEX tech.

When that verification is done, FIMK should be paid the donated BTC (minus DGEX fee). At that phase DGEX is relieved from the escrow contract and can accept FIMK deposits if they want, but no FIMK remains at DGEX initially.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: smaragda on July 01, 2014, 06:39:33 PM
DGEX gives each donator a unique FIMK address, and this list has been forwarded to our distribution phase. Thus every DGEX accountholder gets a real FIMK account with their stake on it, and DGEX is able to verify that the FIMK genesis account distribution matches their FIMK address list and amounts created by DGEX tech.

When that verification is done, FIMK should be paid the donated BTC (minus DGEX fee). At that phase DGEX is relieved from the escrow contract and can accept FIMK deposits if they want, but no FIMK remains at DGEX initially.

Have you ensured that DGEX will not have a withdrawal fee for the IPO participants?   :-\

...for a few days at least...


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on July 01, 2014, 07:01:49 PM
Have you ensured that DGEX will not have a withdrawal fee for the IPO participants?   :-\

...for a few days at least...
There is no withdrawal from DGEX. The FIMK are on a FIMK account that DGEX grants the donator access to, for free.

I encourage anybody who escrowed with DGEX to transfer FIMK from the DGEX-created account to a new account using secure passphrase that only you know.
We encourage that also and so does DGEX.

This arrangement enables FIMK and DGEX conclude the distribution quickly, whereas requiring every DGEX donator to supply FIMK address would have probably dragged on long. It was already a lot of work to settle and arrange just half a dozen missing blockchain.info donator details a temporary FIMK account for the genesis distribution, until they come up to identify.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: PilotofBTC on July 01, 2014, 07:12:41 PM
Have you ensured that DGEX will not have a withdrawal fee for the IPO participants?   :-\

...for a few days at least...
There is no withdrawal from DGEX. The FIMK are on a FIMK account that DGEX grants the donator access to, for free.

I encourage anybody who escrowed with DGEX to transfer FIMK from the DGEX-created account to a new account using secure passphrase that only you know.
We encourage that also and so does DGEX.

This arrangement enables FIMK and DGEX conclude the distribution quickly, whereas requiring every DGEX donator to supply FIMK address would have probably dragged on long. It was already a lot of work to settle and arrange just half a dozen missing blockchain.info donator details a temporary FIMK account for the genesis distribution, until they come up to identify.

When I made my investment the dgex info said that the FIMK would be added to my FIMK balance on the gdex exchange. That is how they will create an ID for me. The same way they do if I was depositing FIMK into my account. So essentially the FIMK will be deposited to the dgex investors balance on the dgex exchange. So, your "FIMK" account provided by dgex will be your dgex account. I can't see them doing it any other way.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: mellorbo on July 01, 2014, 07:14:34 PM
I encourage anybody who escrowed with DGEX to transfer FIMK from the DGEX-created account to a new account using secure passphrase that only you know.
We encourage that also and so does DGEX.

This arrangement enables FIMK and DGEX conclude the distribution quickly, whereas requiring every DGEX donator to supply FIMK address would have probably dragged on long. It was already a lot of work to settle and arrange just half a dozen missing blockchain.info donator details a temporary FIMK account for the genesis distribution, until they come up to identify.

Great!  Thank you for handling all the details so nicely.

An FYI for anybody new to the technology of NXT (and therefore FIMK):

Your passphrase is your account.  Make it very strong.

Either use a passphrase generated by the client, or create your own by using at least 35 truly random characters.


+1
security is imperative.
so for all newcomers stay away from your usual passwords and please make sure you have a backup of your passphrase stored off of your computer.
think of it like this. your passphrase is like your physical fiat wallet if its rammed full of money and you lose it your screwed!


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: smaragda on July 01, 2014, 07:19:09 PM
There is no withdrawal from DGEX. The FIMK are on a FIMK account that DGEX grants the donator access to, for free.

I know the donator will have access to his/her FIM for free...  but what if he/she decides to move the FIM off the exchange...  will there be a withdrawal fee?   :-\


That's the only way to do...

We encourage that also and so does DGEX.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: mellorbo on July 01, 2014, 07:20:32 PM
will the fimk wallet be like nxt wallet where with a NEW wallet you have to send a transaction out of the account in order for maximum security?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: mellorbo on July 01, 2014, 07:43:38 PM
how will dgex investors be notified upon distribution?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: BitTom on July 01, 2014, 08:27:03 PM
Auroracoin's price has risen much because of FIMK today.
 :D


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on July 01, 2014, 08:46:01 PM
Currently running livenet provisioning script on 20 permanent house nodes, 10 in Amsterdam, 5 in NYC, 5 in Singapore.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: GoldenEye on July 01, 2014, 08:56:33 PM
Cannot download client http://81.4.106.149/clients/fimk.zip. Any other url for download?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on July 01, 2014, 09:06:31 PM
Cannot download client http://81.4.106.149/clients/fimk.zip. Any other url for download?
Very soon. We need to ensure the first blocks before releasing livenet client.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: mikkopek on July 01, 2014, 09:09:53 PM
Looks legit. Waiting for exchanges. Is there any exchange-threads prepared or will this hit some real exchanges right away? And oh you have to get a descent logo asap!


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on July 01, 2014, 09:12:14 PM
Looks legit. Waiting for exchanges. Is there any exchange-threads prepared or will this hit some real exchanges right away? And oh you have to get a descent logo asap!
DGEX will carry it from July 3rd.

You mean a logo or the coin?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: mikkopek on July 01, 2014, 09:21:17 PM
DGEX will carry it from July 3rd.

You mean a logo or the coin?

Cool! Real exchange it seems. And for logo I mean something usable for marketing and coinmarketcap etc. The current coin-image is only a grey dot from distance not really usable as a logo..


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: mellorbo on July 01, 2014, 10:33:27 PM
when distribution from dgex?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: BitTom on July 01, 2014, 10:34:44 PM
Cannot download client http://81.4.106.149/clients/fimk.zip. Any other url for download?
Very soon. We need to ensure the first blocks before releasing livenet client.

just wait.

good job.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: newpeled1986 on July 01, 2014, 11:00:15 PM
Will you reconsider not releasing the Source code on July 15?
(I think this is a big "threat" for FIMK investors) and will just lead to more FIMK clones.
I understand this concern but we are confident the FIMK organization, model and arrangements are so strong that any threat from possible clones for FIMK's success is minimal.

The source code is likely to be published earlier than July 15th.

# Membership in Organization
  • Anyone can apply for membership
  • Members enjoy privileges in community decision making process

Will you consider bringing this issue to a vote?
I don't think nxt would have grown to what it is today without waiting with the release of the source code.
It's good that you are confident but you can be wrong like anyone else.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: wiser on July 02, 2014, 12:11:15 AM
I see that I need to install the Fimk wallet client in order to collect my stake. Can I have a link to the download site that works. This link here (http://81.4.106.149/clients/fimk.zip) won't call up anything :(

Thanks in advance for the help :)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on July 02, 2014, 12:28:39 AM
Genesis block has been running a few hours, the first blocks were slower than we had anticipated due to no large stakes in use thus the original deadline of July 1st full launch was achieved only in part of the genesis block. To ensure the health of the newborn blockchain we need to postpone release of the live wallet download and web wallet to Jul 2nd afternoon GMT. Thank you for your support and patience!



http://i.imgur.com/vKmXXQL.jpg



Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: wiser on July 02, 2014, 12:31:39 AM
OK no worries. Thanks for the quick reply :) I'll check back tomorrow afternoon or later.

EDIT: Did I understand you correctly that you will have a web wallet right from the beginning? If so, that would be WONDERFUL :)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: xibeijan on July 02, 2014, 12:51:49 AM
Genesis block has been running a few hours, the first blocks were slower than we had anticipated due to no large stakes in use thus the original deadline of July 1st full launch was achieved only in part of the genesis block. To ensure the health of the newborn blockchain we need to postpone release of the live wallet download and web wallet to Jul 2nd afternoon GMT. Thank you for your support and patience!

Could you please explain more?  This really doesn't make any sense.  Those block times look reasonable.  If you launch the network, then there would be plenty of large stakes in use!

I hope you are not planning to premine until noon tomorrow.  That would be 200K+ worth of mined blocks by yourself.  What's the plan?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on July 02, 2014, 12:55:41 AM
Yes we have a public https web wallet run on the association's server.

The head dev insisted on forging at least 300 to 400 blocks before public access. Possibly to avoid initial forks but I'll let him explain the details tomorrow. The association will distribute the block rewards received during this time as bonus payments to the community.

BTW, here are the genesis block stakeholder accounts for your perusal while we get some sleep :)

FIM-XJXA-VCLN-4BWL-2SGAB       313000000 Krypto Fin Basic income reserve account
FIM-DK4B-Z8ED-9RS3-7ZVRR       18748881
FIM-28Q5-2CBZ-QS7N-BL54P       18748881
FIM-6Y9S-3TVG-B28U-CG7MU       17000000 Krypto Fin bonus and promo funds account
FIM-TB58-AHS6-LASA-6CSTP       12762283
FIM-CL4U-MA93-3ZHX-DQ4WW       10712217
FIM-D9YH-DTMT-TVMW-B5UY9       10610331
FIM-NFV5-JRFR-DFFH-7F4FD       9999736
FIM-LGPL-9W6H-EVVJ-3RB6Y       9999280
FIM-K8RQ-4CAB-2DPQ-86EN2       9407031
FIM-2EWF-KZ66-E7BK-APMNZ       8749769
FIM-V3SE-VCCU-R5PR-5B2J7       7499802
FIM-A9UK-JEKT-KRAG-EZRSU       7085489
FIM-T4MJ-YLWT-MD9A-BDEUL       6626858
FIM-82EA-756T-7T6S-9KVFP       6249835
FIM-VCNZ-PVJW-3CKR-FW7XU       6249835
FIM-AVYE-J3ZA-MBFD-3UZFJ       6249710
FIM-BSSX-F7ZQ-SVNZ-B6S75       5312360
FIM-URDZ-8PDP-3MY5-9BXD9       4999868
FIM-QTL3-RNM4-GA38-7R8VW       4999868
FIM-3MTP-FZSD-PF6Z-7ZY8M       3312413
FIM-TQ5T-GQ8Z-SMYV-BJUYA       3311208
FIM-AHSW-N9SA-68EQ-76AVM       3292393
FIM-M3YE-7Q2G-JEZS-HPHK4       3139985 Krypto Fin expenses reserve account
FIM-QM6N-MJFG-6AEE-CSR77       3124918
FIM-K85Z-YREB-3SUF-5DJXV       3019920
FIM-MEED-T73L-JEBM-DM2VN       3002083
FIM-BC23-H4VG-CFNW-GQ3ZX       2959297
FIM-4MB6-HSRR-4R5G-CPKGQ       2956172
FIM-9QCZ-XY9U-KA4W-E3HXQ       2702366
FIM-F93U-U5SN-FDSW-293UR       2549933
FIM-T28B-D4MV-9W3W-7Y88B       2499934
FIM-6SD4-MTBA-C78T-2ABYV       2499809
FIM-VLNE-CBHV-RSDA-5BYCJ       2402999
FIM-NLXS-GT9L-XKFE-44A6G       2356063
FIM-9X3G-4V2K-DKC4-829L8       2312439
FIM-YYHS-8SSS-V7FS-92FYY       2275928
FIM-WNYF-HRM5-D9GA-B4TB6       2124944
FIM-KNE2-XCB5-EL93-FNZTY       2124944
FIM-E7JB-JRFK-UY2A-8B27W       2064984
FIM-HJ2R-8JNZ-P9UR-3G4MJ       2031196
FIM-R64J-URP9-297W-3P8DV       2021822
FIM-6JXS-8RYY-8H8K-52ACJ       1874951
FIM-EYPK-7LG7-TVH6-8VCN5       1874951
FIM-LBWS-QJYT-8FN9-B5M6Y       1874951
FIM-BM88-FQQP-35AF-ENH7H       1874951
FIM-MG5N-93V7-7RM3-B6GR9       1874951
FIM-WETS-QE9U-KZM6-FBLCH       1874826
FIM-TF8K-HLTS-QHXC-BUDF7       1812452
FIM-EYPK-7LG7-TVH6-8VCN5       1749954
FIM-D2G2-C7QG-UZTS-66LSS       1718705
FIM-8C94-8C95-XMB9-7MJYV       1628850
FIM-G9ZY-69K7-VTBK-F4VU5       1331215
FIM-2RS3-RZP8-48LV-BAMXE       1251323
FIM-EC98-W387-EVXY-6BCAB       1249968
FIM-564W-X9E7-LWBQ-2FQAC       1249967
FIM-XYRX-R274-V437-7KD7M       1249967
FIM-QSHP-DFXC-XEE3-4AEFT       1249967
FIM-VYJC-JYN8-D479-55RJA       1249967
FIM-YBPV-RNHT-2W27-EUTFS       1249967
FIM-B9R3-93TU-ZTJP-82GKH       1249842
FIM-2JW2-RQNX-H96Z-6ANKU       1124970
FIM-S33N-T5B6-SFE2-79VZ8       1093721
FIM-2AFY-MGHU-Z2UP-DGVJK       1085909
FIM-UMWH-E9R7-9TE5-58FP2       1062472
FIM-VQ6Z-VQUC-8AEN-2SHCG       1062472
FIM-4M5U-MGFK-DEXS-DJ3H9       1060120
FIM-TJQC-TXHK-ZKT4-ENPBM       1037473
FIM-LV8B-5SD8-GJPD-2ZGFA       1019973
FIM-R369-4FZJ-Z7JT-F4W9L       999974
FIM-LDJD-W35N-QYJP-89CXL       988099
FIM-9Y5C-ZVUP-5WLG-278HJ       937475
FIM-LSHH-SX7E-E8J6-E9X4T       937475
FIM-FBA5-4AT2-MYLN-F2GLF       937475
FIM-ZF87-VAPV-T4UU-BCBAT       937475
FIM-6LDA-PV5G-LBNF-FZKUN       937475
FIM-RZZJ-HLQ3-73PF-7W95G       937475
FIM-BYLL-4YVA-9BRD-FLKU3       937475
FIM-6TF7-7EAN-RHK9-6PSZN       937475
FIM-9ESM-V2BZ-HD6F-D9TEC       937475
FIM-HL2K-KKNV-B8E7-CKG9J       937475
FIM-XJ66-HNWK-P8UT-92WPG       937475
FIM-SEYQ-H8DX-Z5ZQ-5VDVJ       937475
FIM-H75L-XNMR-MEEG-6XN7C       937350
FIM-6L2R-LX4F-SQBH-8C8NJ       924976
FIM-3P9L-JAS9-X6YR-ESAA5       919038
FIM-LB8X-2MG4-NUW9-9AU3N       918726
FIM-9TJ6-XKPB-3S25-7WJET       897093
FIM-9NGN-RDYT-RWGX-49ZLK       874977
FIM-P54U-9TS8-FNVU-8SHQJ       859042
FIM-E2UC-7DNJ-Q5XV-6T5SW       749980
FIM-6BEB-HFQB-M87N-D4FVU       737044
FIM-ZMZ2-PAV5-5523-GZFNE       732043
FIM-L2DH-Q8BX-23V7-5XFFC       707602
FIM-ZMX4-T9B4-6R2W-2U2QV       690298
FIM-QXQ5-KQLQ-5CQE-54TVR       687482
FIM-HDM7-RCWN-W68A-837PB       637700
FIM-2RQ3-SA84-VBE5-26VPR       631233
FIM-BY5B-XV29-2C6K-5NMFS       624984
FIM-249W-F77L-Y9P5-GVD3L       624984
FIM-9CSP-HQ63-QXSD-CXW6V       624984
FIM-YEH4-FX6B-GDCJ-G5HTL       624984
FIM-KXGB-WEFJ-9CUH-464BD       624984
FIM-9R78-AARK-DDRF-DAZYZ       624984
FIM-WAZP-76MZ-VZ7K-6XTPY       624984
FIM-BCJN-FWSG-89D8-AVJWL       624984
FIM-BVEH-L2E3-UCJ2-EC3DC       624984
FIM-XZ4D-2CPZ-38XH-F73TA       624984
FIM-S7TD-DDDJ-3957-CVLDS       624984
FIM-4QMB-YU8X-42P3-FLEBJ       624984
FIM-XQEV-TA5R-DJA7-FRRYP       624984
FIM-KTRF-JNPA-2PQ3-5982D       624984
FIM-6ZQ5-NRGA-HXWB-8KJXD       624921
FIM-XDP3-HFT2-KX6K-CUHZD       624859
FIM-Q698-MFUH-4Q27-DB7ZY       624796
FIM-CYM4-ZMM8-XWG9-DVHKL       612615
FIM-CBYU-LDVS-FX75-FJGGD       612341
FIM-VXCB-B3UK-MCZW-BXQYG       581235
FIM-BVPZ-RWMV-XK5F-5TK5F       572422
FIM-PDRX-JPYT-23Y2-GYKDP       562485
FIM-8H5A-3CKW-YW4G-7AW9T       558735
FIM-RCUS-B8VM-SQ8J-2FVJJ       554720
FIM-WWUQ-WTRK-EJN8-FE969       533923
FIM-9MJ9-9L6M-5ZQ3-GK9EF       499987
FIM-MP9K-QM97-VZGX-9B9BB       499987
FIM-LCVS-P4FQ-24LB-E39YN       456405
FIM-HM5M-4TTG-A6E4-8C6JT       449988
FIM-H3VU-SCJW-Z5US-AM7QP       449882
FIM-SZZU-B7HC-QQZX-DMJFT       443773
FIM-T7A4-KL9R-Z6DQ-BP6M3       437538
FIM-CZM9-27KD-7WZX-2HMD7       433426
FIM-9Q8F-ABDQ-7Y8Y-CJ7T5       396433
FIM-L8JK-L5S3-SDKV-9ENMQ       374990
FIM-VFXV-E6Y6-2847-C7SCX       374990
FIM-XWSW-B9KS-GUW7-B4YQW       372490
FIM-FGK4-WXBS-SLZT-4NQDZ       372490
FIM-PGHC-A7HM-2SVY-G968G       351188
FIM-9G7J-PTXQ-TB5G-CVTP8       343741
FIM-XHPK-7GBZ-RZ4U-BHTEX       336617
FIM-JKTT-UK5B-MUHM-3KU4N       324991
FIM-CZM9-27KD-7WZX-2HMD7       318742
FIM-ED2V-2EF5-A9D8-4ZG57       315477
FIM-TP4M-UHRN-DAHB-7XREG       312618
FIM-HBDG-46CL-4ZGY-8ZCJV       312554
FIM-5EGB-KBS8-8NRU-GLPS9       312492
FIM-FAW9-475W-CUDX-HNXM4       312492
FIM-NR5C-PEGH-SUA2-ESECG       312492
FIM-XX9A-HKQQ-774G-2D5JD       312492
FIM-Q9WA-RSY2-W2T8-AUC2V       312492
FIM-MHV9-UABM-CQFR-3YM5C       312492
FIM-Q698-MFUH-4Q27-DB7ZY       312492
FIM-E8VY-M5KT-RTNG-CNV9C       312492
FIM-897Z-WQY8-9QQG-CQ2X7       312492
FIM-N83F-5ULR-927V-FCZ5K       312492
FIM-5W4M-KJWJ-6K7H-2Z5JT       312492
FIM-N97F-BBX6-VXJR-DPEYX       312367
FIM-UE7Y-6MJ2-H5UQ-BRDRJ       312367
FIM-JR9M-HHF7-7XPE-38U9C       312304
FIM-RUZ2-E8YQ-FM4K-AJXUL       286874
FIM-Q9WA-RSY2-W2T8-AUC2V       285992
FIM-6VNA-3MKC-VMLK-6GAH8       284003
FIM-Q9WA-RSY2-W2T8-AUC2V       281993
FIM-Q9WA-RSY2-W2T8-AUC2V       281743
FIM-EMHY-NSUK-ANRQ-22B9P       249993
FIM-QHYZ-ZU2D-CJT7-72P5H       249993
FIM-ZCHC-XBR8-CPAL-8XK65       249993
FIM-PT9M-JFNA-CTMY-9HAJC       247072
FIM-KK8C-7J3P-NH9P-5PFSQ       237543
FIM-JPT9-PC5N-XQ8U-5Y3ZY       228231
FIM-JQ9N-72C3-TMP8-B93CX       226417
FIM-45EV-4DMH-S3GH-F7MTW       225544
FIM-8V7P-VLNW-AY5C-DNXX5       219587
FIM-SE8B-663K-4VJB-FPZT5       218744
FIM-48LE-8K93-SWDZ-BZ3NC       218744
FIM-J5HH-A8QN-LWYW-7ULKW       218744
FIM-JFYK-T26V-SCF7-23BPQ       212494
FIM-EQ5T-Q7JD-M2TJ-DXJWW       208515
FIM-7CZJ-CVTH-F4XY-DMWEY       208328
FIM-LNGU-MUKP-6HTL-H9WVF       208328
FIM-BW9C-S7NK-P6QR-7WRUX       206245
FIM-39TW-XNPP-FB22-4LTRT       199995
FIM-CZM9-27KD-7WZX-2HMD7       193745
FIM-ZKB6-EPMB-4GNK-DSJNG       189095
FIM-GW5Z-MKCL-MQ3Q-3EEFF       188539
FIM-5UBM-EUJK-6HJN-FWUD7       187495
FIM-QT5K-5UA7-BGUZ-8CYYM       187495
FIM-GA37-3AHU-RBVV-FHBDR       187495
FIM-G3PM-NEL6-AFQG-6ZS8X       187495
FIM-R2BN-YLHJ-KEQM-FLTYA       187495
FIM-NDY8-VTSU-SK6T-94DYS       187408
FIM-FBVZ-KLL8-GHZ4-9YFY5       174995
FIM-XHU7-WED8-J6B2-DLJSD       168746
FIM-CTY3-B4F5-7PS4-FRT2W       162496
FIM-DZZZ-CVT3-2ECS-GJC7L       161194
FIM-ZGTL-WVZW-W5X4-4CTCT       156871
FIM-U32W-5FFQ-2VRF-4M6GQ       156246
FIM-EMHY-NSUK-ANRQ-22B9P       156246
FIM-GEAA-NPSW-TAPA-2UP7E       156246
FIM-NB2F-SCWP-CRN4-2BUX5       156246
FIM-EV97-6VWK-ESU4-EBZGK       156246
FIM-PNSC-M5KE-KHSK-26HBX       156246
FIM-HKFM-B8WM-FLEJ-AQ8GW       156246
FIM-J4MD-FQ3Z-ZS7X-AP7FN       156246
FIM-5AJC-2PR3-G5TF-GPZC9       156246
FIM-9WN6-4BPX-98XU-HKX83       156246
FIM-BQSM-6SBZ-3VJP-CPYET       155621
FIM-FWJT-JRDG-2TPT-HKUPQ       151901
FIM-A2PL-Y6TP-ALGE-HZAFS       149996
FIM-7PQT-ATA7-TEW4-E2TF2       149246
FIM-Q9WA-RSY2-W2T8-AUC2V       143496
FIM-CQYN-2MW3-TJ78-BMLEJ       141309
FIM-Q9WA-RSY2-W2T8-AUC2V       140809
FIM-Q9WA-RSY2-W2T8-AUC2V       140371
FIM-Q9WA-RSY2-W2T8-AUC2V       139184
FIM-Q9WA-RSY2-W2T8-AUC2V       138996
FIM-7R5Z-6FL5-L37V-CAFEC       138885
FIM-TFYQ-YSRW-ATMN-7W52S       138746
FIM-YDSL-QR3F-44DS-3WNHJ       138404
FIM-L8N4-WUV8-9CNS-2Q2KV       137496
FIM-95HP-GMVN-DXUH-B4QVC       137184
FIM-Q9WA-RSY2-W2T8-AUC2V       135496
FIM-SRTY-YLXU-WA5F-36EGH       134621
FIM-XYMG-NRGS-7DRP-7NFYL       134496
FIM-LH8C-8CJG-7QC7-DHHXH       131247
FIM-XZ37-DJLE-6EMD-E7TBX       131247
FIM-MSVN-E3XC-BU86-85STP       124997
FIM-9TV9-AQ8T-XDEK-2ACDH       124997
FIM-R7MK-CDRM-4L6C-GDBNW       124997
FIM-UWN8-LUXE-9FWT-98XRL       124997
FIM-EMHY-NSUK-ANRQ-22B9P       124997
FIM-XHCY-TTED-TEZV-AEYCT       124997
FIM-HV6H-GFFJ-H8AY-E265B       124997
FIM-WHLE-NV9V-6XKE-BTABN       124997
FIM-WL3Q-T4AQ-QYE9-5BHN5       124997
FIM-7H7L-RKHC-PSEA-ACCDP       124997
FIM-UMSL-K7DU-HHRD-G4MWB       124997
FIM-768T-67NS-Q5NH-78ZZU       124997
FIM-BFYM-4QX3-DF78-ADTZ9       124997
FIM-N24V-8U8P-QL7P-EKS8Y       124997
FIM-SN3E-Y5YG-63F7-HSG38       124997
FIM-T27J-6PX6-SC8G-7WBVV       124872
FIM-77EQ-ALAW-JELH-6KPU9       124872
FIM-BEWZ-D5FT-LZ9X-AFPAY       123502
FIM-H8VC-TWT4-G55N-FD8QK       122684
FIM-GK2Z-C7HB-PVZ8-BTEKZ       121872
FIM-83LZ-CW9X-QR26-GGZE2       119997
FIM-7JCM-VUVT-TAMD-98A5U       118747
FIM-4Z8M-DGSJ-WTZW-GBWUZ       118747
FIM-24DU-DZWR-28DC-HRSRQ       118747
FIM-9YKR-CZ2W-KC5W-9ANPV       118747
FIM-4DQY-A8L6-2WRC-FDUWF       118622
FIM-Q2PH-BS3X-32YQ-5DA4Z       117497
FIM-BQJ7-6JVU-JM7Y-CESAJ       117372
FIM-G6UD-V8SL-557H-FV2MB       112497
FIM-N99U-DGSU-QG9N-8RCKZ       108122
FIM-M6P8-78SW-3GAW-DBQQS       106247
FIM-7PX5-XKBT-7YLC-8MP5V       100894
FIM-AXVY-RA29-KBQF-FWBYV       99997
FIM-9RRB-BEJL-KZUQ-A3P6G       97116
FIM-3TL9-2VC8-NLHZ-6Y6BV       96966
FIM-NZ37-XRA5-HLK8-C9A9Z       96872
FIM-HGRW-3Q2A-RYC4-528B2       95667
FIM-EMHY-NSUK-ANRQ-22B9P       93748
FIM-U23P-VT43-K89Q-5KFDT       92518
FIM-J7DU-HQ2C-46H6-HAB4A       90643
FIM-AZ3D-E7HV-HSTB-A9N6M       87498
FIM-24DD-XN9P-R2XL-29REV       87498
FIM-G8BM-84SM-USNP-H8TWQ       86998
FIM-LC6G-6TBM-MFH3-4XFRH       85070
FIM-GPG4-LMAV-4KEW-FKSWF       84360
FIM-NUEJ-SWE7-VDQ4-HWNH6       83810
FIM-HPPX-DUJH-LW4Z-7YLMN       82898
FIM-WRWF-A7LA-EDGZ-B8LH9       81715
FIM-TJF6-LGPX-XZ8W-DQUWT       81123
FIM-7Z2X-77F2-BYTU-957Z5       80623
FIM-DHX6-38GG-CUB2-AQDVK       80195
FIM-NQ2W-HVHD-REYD-2H3QP       77854
FIM-DT4P-V9M7-JN4G-7NNS5       74998
FIM-ZWUB-YLWS-TQ8E-CE2SB       74998
FIM-YES2-YJ77-RYFL-8QDAN       74998
FIM-XA6J-TV4S-HJF5-F4ZH7       73061
FIM-VYH6-5DMY-3QBZ-GC4XA       72292
FIM-3T8H-ULM3-BRNA-EMEX2       71367
FIM-U9HC-4QLJ-LMG4-DU9MA       70623
FIM-Q698-MFUH-4Q27-DB7ZY       70097
FIM-E78F-PQSK-7AXR-CXRF2       69998
FIM-8QAW-HEK5-A7QK-CSY2L       69061
FIM-N67N-CXWT-DZXM-6U24K       68748
FIM-446X-Z2RC-QNJP-CXJR9       68748
FIM-ZRPF-8UMF-9NNV-GPGG7       63151
FIM-VJ4E-E76Q-KM8Z-BPZBZ       62548
FIM-XEHC-WFFZ-LTSU-7T6LB       62502
FIM-6GHR-P3CG-2J78-HU8BJ       62498
FIM-VQY8-4TVK-B5N8-2WXBK       62498
FIM-Y8RB-4JSD-D25E-BCUS3       62498
FIM-WSQ9-XHU4-QAG5-2CRCK       62498
FIM-LSVD-GSWT-6YVZ-ADS73       62498
FIM-XYML-X3MH-9VQS-52VZK       62498
FIM-SMUC-9MF9-B8CC-GRKUQ       62498
FIM-FECT-E2KQ-3HMS-CNP85       62498
FIM-SM5F-HZLP-4K3T-FXAJE       62498
FIM-WKE8-HVBD-G24F-7RU4L       62498
FIM-3HFK-6SJT-SV8U-DYN8D       62498
FIM-MF9K-W9RT-Y4Y6-7X4LR       62498
FIM-KM58-PFW7-7N3C-FDPPM       62498
FIM-YAZR-6U3M-DKAC-GCZTV       62436
FIM-93D5-DK4Y-2JUJ-4F3RT       62373
FIM-QYPN-VQUQ-483Y-AT8BW       61873
FIM-43QT-T6GJ-47C5-5JUC2       61873
FIM-KS3U-ULG6-XUH2-F78MS       61248
FIM-KK9Z-RL8T-JLKQ-D5UHP       57836
FIM-5MKM-M9ZR-PEY9-6MRX3       56249
FIM-T84B-TFPM-XC4X-BJBHZ       54989
FIM-WTGJ-M27N-JQWZ-BJHJM       54035
FIM-QQU8-SZ6D-XYKP-35MYT       52383
FIM-2RXH-3QWR-8L96-CDXFK       52291
FIM-4LB9-2GSR-JJ6Z-FAYYX       49999
FIM-5P5K-K57M-68LQ-8HJFT       46874
FIM-XD2B-GTZY-6E9Y-5ZGVC       45767
FIM-4P39-RRBL-46KX-7MLVH       45112
FIM-BEFU-A32X-JR9M-CNJPS       43923
FIM-YYNE-WSLV-J3VR-9AXMX       40311
FIM-MLUW-BALP-QXV8-GJKZC       38570
FIM-USAH-6M23-NS6Q-5S6KR       37499
FIM-AAWL-ZXK9-DC3W-33PDL       36544
FIM-E6HN-WCVM-MM26-3AUP6       36062
FIM-MGJQ-TSUK-S8GV-8RWRD       35390
FIM-MP8Z-UYNQ-LG6D-DB6GR       35333
FIM-XTYM-634E-E35U-H2CQM       34374
FIM-76LM-ZLP4-HBTF-5T9Q9       33676
FIM-3SPK-LS4P-EZ4P-G5UGT       32922
FIM-KMTE-XE7S-ESEL-6ZSTP       31308
FIM-C3D9-AQB4-74PY-BMGKG       31249
FIM-SB4A-FQUH-2HMT-A36D2       31249
FIM-46TC-QJSE-CM6P-CBV9A       31249
FIM-7NNP-PLG5-XE2E-4AVB4       31249
FIM-VTBE-6AKF-UVTB-5B4LL       31249
FIM-THX8-S3NP-CYB4-8GTFN       31187
FIM-8J3Q-XSCX-8JDQ-FMU6V       31124
FIM-W33N-PFNZ-BGTG-59M4B       29018
FIM-PP8H-Y6SB-XX73-4SPXA       28938
FIM-K3BB-Y64W-46H8-9Z42K       27499
FIM-2NVE-DNJC-CWKJ-AY28W       24999
FIM-6NW4-JZKQ-TV76-E7AZT       24999
FIM-D9TJ-696Q-69MN-AMUQM       24999
FIM-BA8U-LVXC-WBFT-49C4S       23749
FIM-EJ5K-BFWK-JQMU-8RRFP       23749
FIM-FF7E-DTY9-2KGM-HH2LB       21874
FIM-H586-7S8T-UD36-AK6CL       21374
FIM-NPE5-W5LE-48N9-GRTCD       21258
FIM-3DKA-FNHE-H5A2-B9EBQ       19510
FIM-698S-4RV7-KYL4-39QVY       19374
FIM-VVS5-SPUL-6Y6B-D2QYG       19374
FIM-V9Q8-6STD-H3G2-H5MU2       18750
FIM-MCY6-2C3M-X4J5-G387B       18750
FIM-FWSS-QKTY-YNDA-9NMC3       18750
FIM-XGNU-MLLT-RZHX-EZCQS       16562
FIM-3KHR-RJWA-653Y-8EHMN       16505
FIM-D3XL-2JBG-EA8P-GF2AL       15625
FIM-8K6P-22VS-AGX3-5HZR7       15625
FIM-XMZ5-UUNZ-3RPC-D3EJK       15500
FIM-5XA9-73YC-UXF4-H8ULN       14841
FIM-T2G7-TF7K-PRTU-E3WTK       14655
FIM-LWAC-DT47-HQUM-62Z7D       14437
FIM-74N9-ADN2-B7NX-FL3A4       14199
FIM-2K73-QGGK-YNAZ-4NVPN       13875
FIM-EMR3-FSGH-MU7L-3UFGN       13750
FIM-EJFA-QEK2-XMBW-4GQ89       13375
FIM-TVR2-7JC2-G966-4LM6D       12687
FIM-NPP4-2ZQJ-J888-2ERKC       12562
FIM-GNKB-TV27-NJNL-3NQRW       12500
FIM-Q9WA-RSY2-W2T8-AUC2V       12500
FIM-SAFB-4LZH-49XY-FZJ2S       12500
FIM-DXFV-3AAG-LB99-63QFS       12500
FIM-VZMX-5GSP-SKGR-5YLF2       12500
FIM-6DFJ-T4YE-N2JN-86PCV       12500
FIM-RA4P-49YB-RFH2-93XBF       12500
FIM-LB4R-3WWX-DGV9-2AZGL       12375
FIM-ESK8-EFSW-TFJV-8BVMU       11875
FIM-CAP2-SYZ2-8AAD-6J7FW       10664
FIM-RQGP-SX83-WCDH-GYB9H       9706
FIM-72TA-ZRXS-5YKN-F77TT       9562
FIM-3JX9-8BWQ-BXE3-AA26T       8750
FIM-DDE7-V4R9-E3ZJ-32GYP       8238
FIM-2M5E-XGL6-2HH4-2JK5F       7500
FIM-36HD-BK2A-T2A4-79YMF       6987
FIM-6W3N-NMJC-8RVV-FB3QG       6375
FIM-QLXL-6K7Q-GSK2-8V5BF       6297
FIM-WUAA-FMC2-8HS9-4HRPK       6250
FIM-KVTK-4B2F-W54R-FFPWA       6250
FIM-WPUU-NZ5B-XH8T-HTS2M       6250
FIM-ZYUG-T86K-CJQ5-DTY33       6250
FIM-6AZA-H8XB-G3L8-A32HS       6250
FIM-6QFW-M4XG-JTKG-GK8ZR       6250
FIM-AU2P-HPLW-YA3X-7NFD8       6250
FIM-GWKN-VPQJ-VWPX-78FBR       6250
FIM-R4CN-6TX5-CQJ5-94HAH       6250
FIM-XHWN-KBS8-9K6W-22ZYE       6250
FIM-P668-PBN8-D5YX-6ADBD       5625
FIM-GUPC-SAYY-PCQA-5ET7T       5625
FIM-ETWB-ATR5-E94Y-B4E2A       5125
FIM-HFXM-BUEQ-K8WV-AB3TA       4844
FIM-TVBC-YB79-QSJT-85QRU       4402
FIM-DFY9-7V35-YW66-B46NZ       3911
FIM-52HZ-PFXN-QEL9-DHEQZ       3750
FIM-3KW4-P4TL-GYA8-BJDM7       3750
FIM-SYLG-BKEW-RXAB-DXS3G       3125
FIM-5Y6W-NBRL-BNXN-8KE6Z       3125
FIM-UWSY-WMFG-53JS-77N44       3125
FIM-QZDT-5WUT-V89B-FTMZ5       3081
FIM-KL39-T2TS-LMGR-CGNRE       2500
FIM-ZHCT-GDGN-NV7M-HEKKR       2299
FIM-SDD7-Z334-XHJE-4PZU8       2250
FIM-DCJZ-KRRU-CWAN-58MN5       2150
FIM-UH9C-5Q89-64AZ-9T85Z       2032
FIM-F9NQ-5AX5-LU5W-76JQ8       1881
FIM-S7NY-7JSY-LUDA-2HQDF       1664
FIM-SLGS-X9YQ-Z2WR-3U2UB       1466
FIM-7XSN-VYJ2-E6YN-323ZV       1381
FIM-99SF-N97G-L5WH-9KV49       1250
FIM-RNB4-9DHE-DR4B-CWLV5       1250
FIM-KCCQ-HGEU-DXNG-4KEJF       1208
FIM-DMBS-FG5U-BQFH-86G9W       1163
FIM-43AJ-DVMG-DUXP-BQRDB       990
FIM-CL7G-C2ZP-PTKB-42H3X       937
FIM-SMXR-VG5Q-MD8Y-9AN5R       808
FIM-DS4A-EGSW-3SMY-BH7Y2       635
FIM-9ESM-V2BZ-HD6F-D9TEC       625
FIM-AHQ3-CG7D-KL2Y-7MZSG       623
FIM-YG85-MXTH-5R49-G2Q3F       312
FIM-6KGM-S5SB-J9EN-BKSRJ       265
FIM-JVX8-SACR-9JZQ-3V66G       125
FIM-73FW-4DN4-J4K8-4PBLV       62
FIM-GMZD-A439-UZAH-6T7VX       62
                       TOTAL FIMK        666280000


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: xibeijan on July 02, 2014, 01:09:33 AM
Yes we have a public https web wallet run on the association's server.

The head dev insisted on forging at least 300 to 400 blocks before public access. Possibly to avoid initial forks but I'll let him explain the details tomorrow. The association will distribute the block rewards received during this time as bonus payments to the community.

That's fine as long as those block rewards are delivered back to the IPO stake holders proportionally.  Otherwise, this would be an unannounced premine that should have been declared in the IPO prospectus.  There is no technical reason to premine 300-400 blocks. QED


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: quiglag on July 02, 2014, 03:28:33 AM
Yes we have a public https web wallet run on the association's server.

The head dev insisted on forging at least 300 to 400 blocks before public access. Possibly to avoid initial forks but I'll let him explain the details tomorrow. The association will distribute the block rewards received during this time as bonus payments to the community.

That's fine as long as those block rewards are delivered back to the IPO stake holders proportionally.  Otherwise, this would be an unannounced premine that should have been declared in the IPO prospectus.  There is no technical reason to premine 300-400 blocks. QED

I agree. No pre-mine was mentioned, therefore the block rewards should go back to the IPO investors, not to the "community". I thought the whole point of IPO's was to not have a premine?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Primitive on July 02, 2014, 06:21:51 AM
I wonder if someone can give me some advice.

I'm an initial FIM stakeholder, and I'm leaving tomorrow night for Alaska, where I will be on a boat with (no internet).

I would like to be forging somehow.  Is this possible in any way?  Or am I going to just have to miss the first 10 days?

Thanks for advice!


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Krypt on July 02, 2014, 07:41:56 AM
BTW, here are the genesis block stakeholder accounts for your perusal while we get some sleep :)
...........................
              TOTAL FIMK        666'280'000

Total accepted donations 533.0380646 BTC
Blockchain.info 191 donations, 225.5324219 BTC
DGEX.com 240 donators, 307.50564270 BTC


So 666280000/533.0380646 = 1'249'967 FIMK/BTC

Why my 1BTC stake received only 624984 FIMK ?   Am I missing something?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: wizzardTim on July 02, 2014, 07:45:21 AM
BTW, here are the genesis block stakeholder accounts for your perusal while we get some sleep :)
...........................
              TOTAL FIMK        666'280'000

Total accepted donations 533.0380646 BTC
Blockchain.info 191 donations, 225.5324219 BTC
DGEX.com 240 donators, 307.50564270 BTC


So 666280000/533.0380646 = 1'249'967 FIMK/BTC

Why my 1BTC stake received only 624984 FIMK ?   Am I missing something?

So 1 BTC = 1'249'967 FIMK ??


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: dance on July 02, 2014, 07:47:13 AM
I wonder if someone can give me some advice.

I'm an initial FIM stakeholder, and I'm leaving tomorrow night for Alaska, where I will be on a boat with (no internet).

I would like to be forging somehow.  Is this possible in any way?  Or am I going to just have to miss the first 10 days?

Thanks for advice!
Just leave your computer on and your wallet opened and running. Beware that if someone will get access to your computer during that time you can loose your money.

UPD: Be sure that you've made an outgoing transaction to enable forging. You can also log out from the wallet without stopping forging by choosing corresponding option in log-out popup menu (and leave the server part running and forging), so to reduce the probability of unauthorised access.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: dance on July 02, 2014, 07:49:26 AM
BTW, here are the genesis block stakeholder accounts for your perusal while we get some sleep :)
...........................
              TOTAL FIMK        666'280'000

Total accepted donations 533.0380646 BTC
Blockchain.info 191 donations, 225.5324219 BTC
DGEX.com 240 donators, 307.50564270 BTC


So 666280000/533.0380646 = 1'249'967 FIMK/BTC

Why my 1BTC stake received only 624984 FIMK ?   Am I missing something?
FIM-XJXA-VCLN-4BWL-2SGAB       313000000 Krypto Fin Basic income reserve account
This account is out of IPO.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: tobeaj2mer01 on July 02, 2014, 08:39:09 AM
So disappointed, I missed this coin IPO, I will buy some when it hits exchange.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on July 02, 2014, 08:52:43 AM
FIMK is in the air. Downloadable browser wallet

https://github.com/fimkrypto/fimk/releases/download/v0.2.0x/fim-0.2.0x.zip

Web wallet will be up soon.

We have open sourced the FIMKrypto software, which is obtainable at https://github.com/fimkrypto/fimk/

Krypto Fin is a nonprofit association that aims to progress the adoption and usage of cryptocurrencies worldwide. We welcome competent developers to join us in making FIMK the strongest community based cryptocurrency. The association is equipped to pay serious bounties and will strive to establish partnership deals with programmers worldwide to make FIMK's aspiration to a leading p2p system position the reality.

Forging may continue on association's account still for a while and occasionally after that. All block rewards received to the association's accounts or related accounts during the beginning phase will be distributed to initial stakeholders on pro rata basis according to details published later.

Head developer will come in to explain the technical requirements for private mining during the launch and until now.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: smaragda on July 02, 2014, 09:12:55 AM

Check all notification messages like...  You're about to send over 10000 NXT...  I will post any I find!   ;)

Guaranteed Balance:   0 NXT


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: tobeaj2meraa on July 02, 2014, 09:17:07 AM
FIMK is in the air. Downloadable browser wallet

https://github.com/fimkrypto/fimk/releases/download/v0.2.0x/fim-0.2.0x.zip

Web wallet will be up soon.

We have open sourced the FIMKrypto software, which is obtainable at https://github.com/fimkrypto/fimk/

Krypto Fin is a nonprofit association that aims to progress the adoption and usage of cryptocurrencies worldwide. We welcome competent developers to join us in making FIMK the strongest community based cryptocurrency. The association is equipped to pay serious bounties and will strive to establish partnership deals with programmers worldwide to make FIMK's aspiration to a leading p2p system position the reality.

Forging may continue on association's account still for a while and occasionally after that. All block rewards received to the association's accounts or related accounts during the beginning phase will be distributed to initial stakeholders on pro rata basis according to details published later.

Head developer will come in to explain the technical requirements for private mining during the launch and until now.
How to log on the wallet? what's the URL?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: FimKrypto on July 02, 2014, 09:20:50 AM
I understand there was some confusion on why the organization account has been forging the first few hundred blocks.
In hindsight a better approach would have been to enable block rewards only after a few thousand blocks, but we can't go back now.
To be honest I never expected the IPO to be so successful. But I'm happy I was wrong  :D

The reasons that we wanted to forge blocks before releasing to the public are:

1. In case of a problem we could take it down and make adjustments.
2. And most importantly, the block chain is in not as secure at an extremely low blockheight as it is later on.

So sorry for the confusion, it's live now everyone can forge if they like.
I'm sure the organization and the community will work out a way what to do with the amount that was forged.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on July 02, 2014, 09:23:03 AM
So 666280000/533.0380646 = 1'249'967 FIMK/BTC

Why my 1BTC stake received only 624984 FIMK ?   Am I missing something?
Yes, initial distribution was always 333 140 000 FIMK.

Another 333 140 000 lot consisting of the basic income funds and organization's funds to be used for the community & block bonuses was added to the genesis block for technical reasons as described here: http://fimk.fi/en/info.htm


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: quiglag on July 02, 2014, 09:24:19 AM
Well, I am up and forging, now I sleep. Send me FIM to get your Public Key.

FIM-HFXM-BUEQ-K8WV-AB3TA


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: FimKrypto on July 02, 2014, 09:27:42 AM

Check all notification messages like...  You're about to send over 10000 NXT...  I will post any I find!   ;)

Guaranteed Balance:   0 NXT

Good one. It must have slipped through the cracks.
To be clear there is no hidden module in the FIM client that allows you to send NXT from thin air.  ;)

Btw. We have an issue tracker over at https://github.com/fimkrypto/fimk/issues


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: smaragda on July 02, 2014, 09:43:46 AM
Good one two.

...just making sure you look into both!   ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on July 02, 2014, 09:45:39 AM
How to log on the wallet? what's the URL?
https://wallet.fimk.fi:7886

There is an annoying technical requirement to make an outgoing transaction somewhere before you can forge (do that before block 1440). FIMKrypto organization account is FIM-M3YE-7Q2G-JEZS-HPHK4.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: mellorbo on July 02, 2014, 09:56:11 AM
how long does it take for my balance to become effective to forge after sending to a new secure account (sent from dgex distribution account)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on July 02, 2014, 10:01:37 AM
how long does it take for my balance to become effective to forge after sending to a new secure account (sent from dgex distribution account)
Stakeholders must make an outgoing transaction before block 2880 or they'll
have to wait 1440 blocks before they can forge. Non-stakeholder accounts must
always wait 1440 blocks after their first outgoing transaction
before they can forge.  


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: onlinepro on July 02, 2014, 10:04:51 AM
Okay, my wallet is "forging" now.
What does it mean? Do I get some coins for it? How much?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: qqfcwr on July 02, 2014, 10:08:09 AM
Can you tell me, why can't this confirmation?http://s1.wulala.org/upload/images/42b1586c4dcd0d0f5517a4eec65262b6.jpg


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: FimKrypto on July 02, 2014, 10:10:38 AM
Okay, my wallet is "forging" now.
What does it mean? Do I get some coins for it? How much?

There is a block reward of 200 FIM. You'll get it as soon as you'll forge a block.
How many blocks you'll forge depends on your stake.


Not sure. Try reloading your browser.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: mellorbo on July 02, 2014, 10:11:15 AM
how long does it take for my balance to become effective to forge after sending to a new secure account (sent from dgex distribution account)
Stakeholders must make an outgoing transaction before block 2880 or they'll
have to wait 1440 blocks before they can forge. Non-stakeholder accounts must
always wait 1440 blocks after their first outgoing transaction
before they can forge.  

i have made an outgoing transaction on block 750 but my account still states i do not have any effective balance
EDIT i have transferred to a new account so im guessing i have to wait 1440 blocks?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: onlinepro on July 02, 2014, 10:13:05 AM
Okay, my wallet is "forging" now.
What does it mean? Do I get some coins for it? How much?

There is a block reward of 200 FIM. You'll get it as soon as you'll forge a block.
How many blocks you'll forge depends on your stake.


Okay, sounds good :)
I hope I can get some coins soon.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: kikeda on July 02, 2014, 10:23:35 AM
how long does it take for my balance to become effective to forge after sending to a new secure account (sent from dgex distribution account)
Stakeholders must make an outgoing transaction before block 2880 or they'll
have to wait 1440 blocks before they can forge. Non-stakeholder accounts must
always wait 1440 blocks after their first outgoing transaction
before they can forge.  

i have made an outgoing transaction on block 750 but my account still states i do not have any effective balance
EDIT i have transferred to a new account so im guessing i have to wait 1440 blocks?

same here guess we have to wait for 1440 more blocks


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: mellorbo on July 02, 2014, 10:25:35 AM
how long does it take for my balance to become effective to forge after sending to a new secure account (sent from dgex distribution account)
Stakeholders must make an outgoing transaction before block 2880 or they'll
have to wait 1440 blocks before they can forge. Non-stakeholder accounts must
always wait 1440 blocks after their first outgoing transaction
before they can forge.  

i have made an outgoing transaction on block 750 but my account still states i do not have any effective balance
EDIT i have transferred to a new account so im guessing i have to wait 1440 blocks?

same here guess we have to wait for 1440 more blocks
yea kinda sucks tbh since we was advised to change accounts, so really all dgex investors have been penalized via investing via this method


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on July 02, 2014, 10:30:12 AM
POS and the FIMK extra reward aren't like Bitcoin-clones POW where you receive massively more rewards if you forge early. I think this aspect may twist the perception of many. The difficulty doesn't rise. You'll be able to forge about just as effectively half a day or half a year from now. Only the slow increase in adoption and knowledge of forging affect the efficiency of your forging opportunity.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: FimKrypto on July 02, 2014, 10:30:49 AM
how long does it take for my balance to become effective to forge after sending to a new secure account (sent from dgex distribution account)
Stakeholders must make an outgoing transaction before block 2880 or they'll
have to wait 1440 blocks before they can forge. Non-stakeholder accounts must
always wait 1440 blocks after their first outgoing transaction
before they can forge.  

i have made an outgoing transaction on block 750 but my account still states i do not have any effective balance
EDIT i have transferred to a new account so im guessing i have to wait 1440 blocks?

same here guess we have to wait for 1440 more blocks

To be clear.. If you're a stakeholder you can forge before block 2880 (basically immediately) after you make an outgoing transaction.
If you use the JSON API you can even forge without making a transaction first.
I guess they force you to do a transaction in the NXT client since it's safer to do so.

If you're not a stakeholder then yes you must wait 1440 blocks (which is half a day because of the 30 sec block time)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: kikeda on July 02, 2014, 10:38:14 AM
how long does it take for my balance to become effective to forge after sending to a new secure account (sent from dgex distribution account)
Stakeholders must make an outgoing transaction before block 2880 or they'll
have to wait 1440 blocks before they can forge. Non-stakeholder accounts must
always wait 1440 blocks after their first outgoing transaction
before they can forge.  

i have made an outgoing transaction on block 750 but my account still states i do not have any effective balance
EDIT i have transferred to a new account so im guessing i have to wait 1440 blocks?

same here guess we have to wait for 1440 more blocks

To be clear.. If you're a stakeholder you can forge before block 2880 (basically immediately) after you make an outgoing transaction.
If you use the JSON API you can even forge without making a transaction first.
I guess they force you to do a transaction in the NXT client since it's safer to do so.

If you're not a stakeholder then yes you must wait 1440 blocks (which is half a day because of the 30 sec block time)

yep no worries, i also invested via dgex so its a mandatory transfer to a new account. :)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: onlinepro on July 02, 2014, 10:49:46 AM
If someone want to buy small amounts of Fimk for BTC, feel free to pm me your offer ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: lovely89 on July 02, 2014, 10:52:38 AM
If you guys want somewhere to send FIMK to generated a private key, to start forging... here is an address! :)

FIM-DT4P-V9M7-JN4G-7NNS5


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: dance on July 02, 2014, 10:59:14 AM
You can make the first transfer to your own address. No need to send money to someone else.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: onlinepro on July 02, 2014, 11:01:03 AM
You can make the first transfer to your own address. No need to send money to someone else.

Really?
Now I lost 0.2 Fimks  :-[ :'(


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: dance on July 02, 2014, 11:08:49 AM
You can make the first transfer to your own address. No need to send money to someone else.

Really?
Now I lost 0.2 Fimks  :-[ :'(
Ye, you can send me 0.2 more for the consultation :)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: yassin54 on July 02, 2014, 11:10:46 AM
all work
thanks for all
i wait 1440 now and lets go forging  ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: onlinepro on July 02, 2014, 11:29:07 AM
You can make the first transfer to your own address. No need to send money to someone else.

Really?
Now I lost 0.2 Fimks  :-[ :'(
Ye, you can send me 0.2 more for the consultation :)

lol, sorry but your consultation come too late.
I already lost it.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: onlinepro on July 02, 2014, 11:36:55 AM
Has account leasing been disabled?

I was confused too why I can't find it now?
I saw it somewhere at test net.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: FimKrypto on July 02, 2014, 11:40:30 AM
Has account leasing been disabled?

Yes it's disabled.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: PL_CoinTrader on July 02, 2014, 11:41:45 AM
No trading thread yet? :D


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: onlinepro on July 02, 2014, 11:42:17 AM
No trading thread yet? :D

Want to buy some?
Pm me your offer.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: dance on July 02, 2014, 11:44:04 AM
You can make the first transfer to your own address. No need to send money to someone else.

Really?
Now I lost 0.2 Fimks  :-[ :'(
Ye, you can send me 0.2 more for the consultation :)

lol, sorry but your consultation come too late.
I already lost it.
This information can be applied for any other new FIMK accounts created, as well as for NXT and it's clones.
Plus a good thing to know, that you can always specify a lowest fee (0.1) for any transaction, no matter how large the amount is. It is especially actual for FIMK now, because forging node will get his 200 coins anyway.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: FimKrypto on July 02, 2014, 11:54:56 AM
Has account leasing been disabled?

Yes it's disabled.

May I ask why?  I have a VPS account waiting for a lease so it can forge safely.

Is it still accessible using the API?

It was considered unsafe at the time of development, especially in combination with the added POS rewards.
Also still lots of changes are made to account lease in NXT core.
We will enable it if the community wants it but we'll have to make choices here this requires resources, we'll have to adjust the automated test env, the core code and so on.

There also is the issue of trust when it comes to leasing your stake. You must trust the lease pool owner to pay you, while this could easily be done from within the protocol where the forger fees could be paid  automatically based on a pre-set percentage.

Getting to a launchable product took a lot of time and effort, now that that's behind us we can start thinking as a community where to head from here.



Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: bitcoinpaul on July 02, 2014, 11:57:54 AM
Did anyone reviewed the client for malicious stuff?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: gvans on July 02, 2014, 11:58:23 AM
IMPORTANT, FOR DEVS! You must add valid hash/SHA for downloadable wallet in OP! Nxt suffered on early stage from malicious wallet-files. Always provide hash


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: dance on July 02, 2014, 12:01:38 PM
Someone is creating a lot of aliases:
7/2/2014 12:38:04   Alias assignment      0   0.1   FIM-MRCC-2YLS-8M54-3CMAJ
7/2/2014 12:37:58   Alias assignment      0   0.1   FIM-MRCC-2YLS-8M54-3CMAJ
7/2/2014 12:37:53   Alias assignment      0   0.1   FIM-MRCC-2YLS-8M54-3CMAJ
7/2/2014 12:37:47   Alias assignment      0   0.1   FIM-MRCC-2YLS-8M54-3CMAJ
7/2/2014 12:37:42   Alias assignment      0   0.1   FIM-MRCC-2YLS-8M54-3CMAJ
7/2/2014 12:37:35   Alias assignment      0   0.1   FIM-MRCC-2YLS-8M54-3CMAJ
7/2/2014 12:37:28   Alias assignment      0   0.1   FIM-MRCC-2YLS-8M54-3CMAJ
7/2/2014 12:37:21   Alias assignment      0   0.1   FIM-MRCC-2YLS-8M54-3CMAJ
7/2/2014 12:37:11   Alias assignment      0   0.1   FIM-MRCC-2YLS-8M54-3CMAJ
7/2/2014 12:37:04   Alias assignment      0   0.1   FIM-MRCC-2YLS-8M54-3CMAJ
7/2/2014 12:36:58   Alias assignment      0   0.1   FIM-MRCC-2YLS-8M54-3CMAJ
7/2/2014 12:36:49   Alias assignment      0   0.1   FIM-MRCC-2YLS-8M54-3CMAJ
7/2/2014 12:36:42   Alias assignment      0   0.1   FIM-MRCC-2YLS-8M54-3CMAJ
7/2/2014 12:36:37   Alias assignment      0   0.1   FIM-MRCC-2YLS-8M54-3CMAJ
7/2/2014 12:36:30   Alias assignment      0   0.1   FIM-MRCC-2YLS-8M54-3CMAJ
7/2/2014 12:36:24   Alias assignment      0   0.1   FIM-MRCC-2YLS-8M54-3CMAJ
7/2/2014 12:36:17   Alias assignment      0   0.1   FIM-MRCC-2YLS-8M54-3CMAJ
7/2/2014 12:36:10   Alias assignment      0   0.1   FIM-MRCC-2YLS-8M54-3CMAJ
7/2/2014 12:36:04   Alias assignment      0   0.1   FIM-MRCC-2YLS-8M54-3CMAJ
7/2/2014 12:35:57   Alias assignment      0   0.1   FIM-MRCC-2YLS-8M54-3CMAJ
7/2/2014 12:35:52   Alias assignment      0   0.1   FIM-MRCC-2YLS-8M54-3CMAJ
7/2/2014 12:35:46   Alias assignment      0   0.1   FIM-MRCC-2YLS-8M54-3CMAJ
7/2/2014 12:35:40   Alias assignment      0   0.1   FIM-MRCC-2YLS-8M54-3CMAJ
7/2/2014 12:35:34   Alias assignment      0   0.1   FIM-MRCC-2YLS-8M54-3CMAJ
7/2/2014 12:35:27   Alias assignment      0   0.1   FIM-MRCC-2YLS-8M54-3CMAJ
7/2/2014 12:35:20   Alias assignment      0   0.1   FIM-MRCC-2YLS-8M54-3CMAJ
7/2/2014 12:35:13   Alias assignment      0   0.1   FIM-MRCC-2YLS-8M54-3CMAJ
7/2/2014 12:35:07   Alias assignment      0   0.1   FIM-MRCC-2YLS-8M54-3CMAJ
7/2/2014 12:26:22   Alias assignment      0   0.1   FIM-MRCC-2YLS-8M54-3CMAJ
7/2/2014 12:26:10   Alias assignment      0   0.1   FIM-MRCC-2YLS-8M54-3CMAJ
7/2/2014 12:26:02   Alias assignment      0   0.1   FIM-MRCC-2YLS-8M54-3CMAJ
7/2/2014 12:25:51   Alias assignment      0   0.1   FIM-MRCC-2YLS-8M54-3CMAJ
7/2/2014 12:25:42   Alias assignment      0   0.1   FIM-MRCC-2YLS-8M54-3CMAJ
7/2/2014 12:23:25   Alias assignment      0   0.1   FIM-MRCC-2YLS-8M54-3CMAJ
7/2/2014 12:23:16   Alias assignment      0   0.1   FIM-MRCC-2YLS-8M54-3CMAJ
7/2/2014 12:23:07   Alias assignment      0   0.1   FIM-MRCC-2YLS-8M54-3CMAJ
7/2/2014 12:22:59   Alias assignment      0   0.1   FIM-MRCC-2YLS-8M54-3CMAJ
7/2/2014 12:22:53   Alias assignment      0   0.1   FIM-MRCC-2YLS-8M54-3CMAJ
7/2/2014 12:22:46   Alias assignment      0   0.1   FIM-MRCC-2YLS-8M54-3CMAJ
7/2/2014 12:22:38   Alias assignment      0   0.1   FIM-MRCC-2YLS-8M54-3CMAJ
7/2/2014 12:22:28   Alias assignment      0   0.1   FIM-MRCC-2YLS-8M54-3CMAJ
7/2/2014 12:21:05   Alias assignment      0   0.1   FIM-MRCC-2YLS-8M54-3CMAJ
7/2/2014 12:20:57   Alias assignment      0   0.1   FIM-MRCC-2YLS-8M54-3CMAJ
7/2/2014 12:20:09   Alias assignment      0   0.1   FIM-MRCC-2YLS-8M54-3CMAJ
7/2/2014 12:19:59   Alias assignment      0   0.1   FIM-MRCC-2YLS-8M54-3CMAJ
7/2/2014 12:19:53   Alias assignment      0   0.1   FIM-MRCC-2YLS-8M54-3CMAJ
7/2/2014 12:19:38   Alias assignment      0   0.1   FIM-MRCC-2YLS-8M54-3CMAJ
7/2/2014 12:16:46   Alias assignment      0   0.1   FIM-MRCC-2YLS-8M54-3CMAJ
7/2/2014 12:14:54   Account Info      0   0.1   FIM-MRCC-2YLS-8M54-3CMAJ
11/24/2013 15:00:00   Ordinary payment      9'999'736   0   FIM-MRCC-2YLS-8M54-3CMAJ


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: onlinepro on July 02, 2014, 12:02:40 PM
Someone is creating a lot of aliases:
7/2/2014 12:38:04   Alias assignment      0   0.1   FIM-MRCC-2YLS-8M54-3CMAJ

-s-

11/24/2013 15:00:00   Ordinary payment      9'999'736   0   FIM-MRCC-2YLS-8M54-3CMAJ

So, what is the problem with that?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: FimKrypto on July 02, 2014, 12:06:51 PM
IMPORTANT, FOR DEVS! You must add valid SHA for downloadable wallet in OP! Nxt suffered on early stage from malicious wallet-files. Always provide SHA

We use GPG signed announcements that contain both SHA and MD5 hashed.
You can see it our forum where we announce the releases.
http://forum.fimk.fi/index.php?topic=32.msg135;topicseen#msg135

Edit: and on our github page
https://github.com/fimkrypto/fimk/releases/tag/v0.2.0x

I understand the complications.  But please consider the use case that doesn't involve pooling.  Simply used for account protection, as is my intention.
I control accounts A and B.  A has high balance and a very protected passphrase.  B is kept low balance and unlocked to forge on a networked Virtual Private Server (VPS), to which a third party may have access (VPS provider).  My wish is to lease A balance to B so that I can forge without risking the balance of A.
This is a very desirable feature IMHO.
Is leasing still available using the API?  If it is, do you consider it safe to use?

Interesting use case. And all completely reasonable it's just not my decision alone.
Leasing is disabled in the core so no API sorry.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: bitcoinpaul on July 02, 2014, 12:09:21 PM
Interesting use case.

Interesting? That's one of the obvious reasons, imho.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: gvans on July 02, 2014, 12:09:26 PM
IMPORTANT, FOR DEVS! You must add valid SHA for downloadable wallet in OP! Nxt suffered on early stage from malicious wallet-files. Always provide SHA

We use GPG signed announcements that contain both SHA and MD5 hashed.
You can see it our forum where we announce the releases.
http://forum.fimk.fi/index.php?topic=32.msg135;topicseen#msg135


Ok. Another question, I can run the linux-command on mac? i.e.
java -cp fim.jar:lib/*:conf nxt.Nxt
on Mac os x?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: nismhjt on July 02, 2014, 12:11:25 PM
any buy/sell thread?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: onlinepro on July 02, 2014, 12:12:25 PM
any buy/sell thread?

If you want to buy small amount you can pm your offer to me.
Or if your selling you can send your offer too.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: FimKrypto on July 02, 2014, 12:13:12 PM
IMPORTANT, FOR DEVS! You must add valid SHA for downloadable wallet in OP! Nxt suffered on early stage from malicious wallet-files. Always provide SHA

We use GPG signed announcements that contain both SHA and MD5 hashed.
You can see it our forum where we announce the releases.
http://forum.fimk.fi/index.php?topic=32.msg135;topicseen#msg135


Ok. Another question, I can run the linux-command on mac? i.e.
java -cp fim.jar:lib/*:conf nxt.Nxt
on Mac os x?

Thats a universal java command line, not linux perse. Should work on win/lin/mac.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: nismhjt on July 02, 2014, 12:17:32 PM
any buy/sell thread?

If you want to buy small amount you can pm your offer to me.
Or if your selling you can send your offer too.


whats the price to buy?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: onlinepro on July 02, 2014, 12:18:20 PM
any buy/sell thread?

If you want to buy small amount you can pm your offer to me.
Or if your selling you can send your offer too.


whats the price to buy?

I will send you PM.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: dance on July 02, 2014, 12:21:20 PM
any buy/sell thread?
Tomorrow FIMK is to be added to DGEX exchange.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: FimKrypto on July 02, 2014, 12:24:49 PM
Leasing is not disabled.

Should be is not enabled. Sorry typo


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: bitcoinpaul on July 02, 2014, 12:26:34 PM
Did anyone reviewed the client for malicious stuff?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: FimKrypto on July 02, 2014, 12:31:25 PM
Did anyone reviewed the client for malicious stuff?

You could compile the code yourself and compare the resulting fim.jar with the one we put up for download.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: smaragda on July 02, 2014, 12:45:01 PM

Is forging a block heavily dependent on FIM balance or have there been changes to the Nxt algo because of the POS Reward?

...sorry if this has been discussed before...


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: onlinepro on July 02, 2014, 12:48:08 PM

Is forging a block heavily dependent on FIM balance or have there been changes to the Nxt algo because of the POS Reward?

...sorry if this has been discussed before...

Yeah, more FIMs you have more Fims you will get.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: highscore on July 02, 2014, 12:48:54 PM
whats the price to buy?
0.00001


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: GeneToniK on July 02, 2014, 12:55:07 PM
So nice, everything works, so we can start =) It´s the first time i am forging. How many coins i must have before to get some blocks ?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: FimKrypto on July 02, 2014, 12:57:41 PM
Is forging a block heavily dependent on FIM balance or have there been changes to the Nxt algo because of the POS Reward?

While the algorithm changed slightly in some places, the outcome is still the same.
The more FIM you have the more blocks you make.



Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: mtbitcoin on July 02, 2014, 01:14:33 PM

Selling FIMS. PM to transact  ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: xibeijan on July 02, 2014, 01:17:09 PM
All block rewards received to the association's accounts or related accounts during the beginning phase will be distributed to initial stakeholders on pro rata basis according to details published later.

+1 Thanks for doing the right thing.  When will this commence?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: mtbitcoin on July 02, 2014, 01:20:57 PM
Is forging a block heavily dependent on FIM balance or have there been changes to the Nxt algo because of the POS Reward?

While the algorithm changed slightly in some places, the outcome is still the same.
The more FIM you have the more blocks you make.



Is forging also dependent on the number of clients you have open? Meaning, if you are logged in with one FIMK account but with multiple browser windows open will this enhance your chance for forging a block?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: FimKrypto on July 02, 2014, 01:25:15 PM
Is forging a block heavily dependent on FIM balance or have there been changes to the Nxt algo because of the POS Reward?
While the algorithm changed slightly in some places, the outcome is still the same.
The more FIM you have the more blocks you make.
Is forging also dependent on the number of clients you have open? Meaning, if you are logged in with one FIMK account but with multiple browser windows open will this enhance your chance for forging a block?

That would be nice  :D
But no sorry that's not how it works.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: nismhjt on July 02, 2014, 01:26:35 PM

that's expensive


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Simakki on July 02, 2014, 01:28:34 PM

You are not gonna regret buyin at that price.

FIMK will be really big thing in future!


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: PL_CoinTrader on July 02, 2014, 01:29:31 PM

Jep it is. But don't forget that the amount of available Fimk is currently 333 million, not 1 billion and during the IPO more than 500 btc have been gathered, so investors won't sell low to have ROI.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: mtbitcoin on July 02, 2014, 01:34:37 PM
Is forging a block heavily dependent on FIM balance or have there been changes to the Nxt algo because of the POS Reward?
While the algorithm changed slightly in some places, the outcome is still the same.
The more FIM you have the more blocks you make.
Is forging also dependent on the number of clients you have open? Meaning, if you are logged in with one FIMK account but with multiple browser windows open will this enhance your chance for forging a block?

That would be nice  :D
But no sorry that's not how it works.

 ;D

Btw, why is it that I see my dashboard with a "200" forged balance and after the next block the balance is reset to zero?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: xibeijan on July 02, 2014, 01:37:24 PM
how long does it take for my balance to become effective to forge after sending to a new secure account (sent from dgex distribution account)
Stakeholders must make an outgoing transaction before block 2880 or they'll
have to wait 1440 blocks before they can forge. Non-stakeholder accounts must
always wait 1440 blocks after their first outgoing transaction
before they can forge.  



Generally (after block 2880), upon receiving funds how long does a genesis account need to wait before those funds are effective balance used for forging?  How long goes a non-genesis account need to wait, generally (after block 2880)?



Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: wiser on July 02, 2014, 01:38:56 PM
I just wanted to chime in and say that I was able to download, install and run the client on the first try with no problems. Nice interface too. I'm not a coder or programmer and tend to not understand the technical details behind cryptos. As such I had so much trouble with handling the NXT client when it first came out and for the first several months. So the fact that I had no problems getting set up on this brand new crypto says a lot. I'm very impressed. Great job :)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: nismhjt on July 02, 2014, 01:39:25 PM

You are not gonna regret buyin at that price.

FIMK will be really big thing in future!

its just a clone of nxt


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: FimKrypto on July 02, 2014, 01:45:20 PM
Btw, why is it that I see my dashboard with a "200" forged balance and after the next block the balance is reset to zero?

Your block is overruled by another block from another forger with a higher difficulty.
There is nothing you can do about that. In very unfortunate situations (depending on your point of view) you could forge many blocks before your client realizes another chain of blocks has a higher difficulty and it will cause all blocks to disappear, thats called being on a fork.

Generally (after block 2880), upon receiving funds how long does a genesis account need to wait before those funds are effective balance used for forging?  How long goes a non-genesis account need to wait, generally (after block 2880)?


The stakeholder advantage will stop after block 2880, you really should make a transaction before that. Or wait 1440 after that block.

I just wanted to chime in and say that I was able to download, install and run the client on the first try with no problems. Nice interface too. I'm not a coder or programmer and tend to not understand the technical details behind cryptos. As such I had so much trouble with handling the NXT client when it first came out and for the first several months. So the fact that I had no problems getting set up on this brand new crypto says a lot. I'm very impressed. Great job :)

Thank you, but NXT did pave the road for us.




Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on July 02, 2014, 01:46:52 PM
I just wanted to chime in and say that I was able to download, install and run the client on the first try with no problems. Nice interface too. I'm not a coder or programmer and tend to not understand the technical details behind cryptos. As such I had so much trouble with handling the NXT client when it first came out and for the first several months. So the fact that I had no problems getting set up on this brand new crypto says a lot. I'm very impressed. Great job :)
Thank you, this means a lot! Thanks to NXT's Wesley for the base of the better web client - which we might however remake extensively in the future as well as deploy a standalone executable client.

Distributing the early block rewards received by the organization's accounts will have to wait somewhat for a less hectic time period. There will be time for that but not now - I just got off phone interview with two major Finnish financial news publishers ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: xibeijan on July 02, 2014, 01:46:58 PM

You are not gonna regret buyin at that price.

FIMK will be really big thing in future!

its just a clone of nxt

Not quite.  A huge fundamental NXT problem is solved by FIM -- NXT has no block reward, but FIM does!!!  This makes a gigantic difference to how things play out and keeps the community highly incentivised.

Overall FIM improves the following.

  • Adds block reward incentive for forging
  • 30 sec block time - makes decentralised asset exchange much faster
  • 0.1 min TX fee - encourages spending with lower TX fees

FIM is a contender and is here to stay.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: xibeijan on July 02, 2014, 01:48:10 PM
Thanks to NXT's Wesley for the base of the better web client - which we might however remake extensively in the future as well as deploy a standalone executable client.

Great idea.  A QT-based wallet would be very good.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Simakki on July 02, 2014, 01:54:18 PM
I just wanted to chime in and say that I was able to download, install and run the client on the first try with no problems. Nice interface too. I'm not a coder or programmer and tend to not understand the technical details behind cryptos. As such I had so much trouble with handling the NXT client when it first came out and for the first several months. So the fact that I had no problems getting set up on this brand new crypto says a lot. I'm very impressed. Great job :)
Thank you, this means a lot! Thanks to NXT's Wesley for the base of the better web client - which we might however remake extensively in the future as well as deploy a standalone executable client.

Distributing the early block rewards received by the organization's accounts will have to wait somewhat for a less hectic time period. There will be time for that but not now - I just got off phone interview with two major Finnish financial news publishers ;)


Those are such a wonderful news. If my guess is correct about the puplishers, we will see lot of newbies here in upcoming days!


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Vega on July 02, 2014, 02:00:11 PM
Jep it is. But don't forget that the amount of available Fimk is currently 333 million, not 1 billion and during the IPO more than 500 btc have been gathered, so investors won't sell low to have ROI.

It will be interesting to watch how the price develops. With only 333 million available and the reward system giving out coin for forging, there is actually an incentive to buy in early. The forging return is quite nice. Someone should make some calculations.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: tobeaj2mer01 on July 02, 2014, 02:04:31 PM
price is 0.00002 BTC per FIMK, please PM me if you are interesting.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: highscore on July 02, 2014, 02:05:16 PM
6xIPO. That's not expensive.
Wait, will be more expensive.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: highscore on July 02, 2014, 02:06:48 PM
price is 0.00002 BTC per FIMK, please PM me if you are interesting.
You want to buy or sell?
And this is not the place for trading


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: BitTom on July 02, 2014, 02:13:59 PM
hi
dev
The client can't refresh synchronously, I must close the client, reload, then the transactions will all be shown.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: xibeijan on July 02, 2014, 02:15:28 PM
hi
dev
The client can't refresh synchronously, I must close the client, reload, then the transactions will all be shown.

do you have javascript enabled?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: dance on July 02, 2014, 02:19:44 PM
How to understand this:

Account FIM-MRCC-2YLS-8M54-3CMAJ Info
The account has a balance of -666'279'998 FIM.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: onlinepro on July 02, 2014, 02:31:04 PM
Can someone calculate how much forging with 10k FIMs makes approximately in 24 hours?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: wiser on July 02, 2014, 02:34:28 PM
Thank you, but NXT did pave the road for us.

Thank you, this means a lot! Thanks to NXT's Wesley for the base of the better web client - which we might however remake extensively in the future as well as deploy a standalone executable client.

Distributing the early block rewards received by the organization's accounts will have to wait somewhat for a less hectic time period. There will be time for that but not now - I just got off phone interview with two major Finnish financial news publishers ;)

I totally recognize the foundational nature of NXT and appreciate that it's paved the way for FIM and other spin offs, so wasn't intending to slam NXT. But I am very happy that FIM is working well from the beginning, even for us nontechnical people :)

Congratulations on the media attention :)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: PilotofBTC on July 02, 2014, 02:41:53 PM
How to log on the wallet? what's the URL?
https://wallet.fimk.fi:7886

There is an annoying technical requirement to make an outgoing transaction somewhere before you can forge (do that before block 1440). FIMKrypto organization account is FIM-M3YE-7Q2G-JEZS-HPHK4.

Can you register an alias as you can with NXT?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: onlinepro on July 02, 2014, 02:43:09 PM
How to log on the wallet? what's the URL?
https://wallet.fimk.fi:7886

There is an annoying technical requirement to make an outgoing transaction somewhere before you can forge (do that before block 1440). FIMKrypto organization account is FIM-M3YE-7Q2G-JEZS-HPHK4.

Can you register an alias as you can with NXT?

Yes.
It costs 0.1FIMK


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: dance on July 02, 2014, 02:45:25 PM
Can someone calculate how much forging with 10k FIMs makes approximately in 24 hours?
10k is 1/33000 of all active amount. There are 2880 blocks per day.
So, the minimum probability to forge a block in 24 hours is 2880 / 33000 = 0.087.
So, in average it should be 0.087 * 200 = 17.5 coins per day.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: onlinepro on July 02, 2014, 02:48:05 PM
Can someone calculate how much forging with 10k FIMs makes approximately in 24 hours?
10k is 1/33000 of all active amount. There are 2880 blocks per day.
So, the minimum probability to forge a block in 24 hours is 2880 / 33000 = 0.087.
So, in average it should be 0.087 * 200 = 17.5 coins per day.

So I get 1 reward approximately every 11.5 days?
Damn, why didn't I buy more  :o


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: BitTom on July 02, 2014, 02:51:47 PM
hi
dev
The client can't refresh synchronously, I must close the client, reload, then the transactions will all be shown.

do you have javascript enabled?

Of course enabled, transaction is OK, just can't be shown on time.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: dance on July 02, 2014, 02:56:14 PM
Can someone calculate how much forging with 10k FIMs makes approximately in 24 hours?
10k is 1/33000 of all active amount. There are 2880 blocks per day.
So, the minimum probability to forge a block in 24 hours is 2880 / 33000 = 0.087.
So, in average it should be 0.087 * 200 = 17.5 coins per day.

So I get 1 reward approximately every 11.5 days?
Damn, why didn't I buy more  :o
At least. I don't think everyone will be forging 24/7, so you will be rewarded more.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: onlinepro on July 02, 2014, 02:58:40 PM
Can someone calculate how much forging with 10k FIMs makes approximately in 24 hours?
10k is 1/33000 of all active amount. There are 2880 blocks per day.
So, the minimum probability to forge a block in 24 hours is 2880 / 33000 = 0.087.
So, in average it should be 0.087 * 200 = 17.5 coins per day.

So I get 1 reward approximately every 11.5 days?
Damn, why didn't I buy more  :o
At least. I don't think everyone will be forging 24/7, so you will be rewarded more.

That is good point.
Smallest account I have seen getting rewarded had 60k FIMKs
Are those who used escrow forging already? Or not?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Vega on July 02, 2014, 03:00:48 PM
http://forum.fimk.fi/index.php?topic=14.msg154#msg154
Thanks! (Another forum that I'll need to follow. Sigh.)

I was right this will do interesting things for the price.
If someone buys 1 million now, gets at least 630k in rewards in one years time. Thats huge.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: FimKrypto on July 02, 2014, 03:06:33 PM
The client can't refresh synchronously, I must close the client, reload, then the transactions will all be shown.

Not at all sure what's the cause of that. We do have an issue tracker for these kinds of things so our team can look into it later in detail. https://github.com/fimkrypto/fimk/issues

How to understand this:
Account FIM-MRCC-2YLS-8M54-3CMAJ Info
The account has a balance of -666'279'998 FIM.

Thats the genesis account

Can you register an alias as you can with NXT?

Yes you can but i'm currently fixing a bug in the html/javascript client that does not allow to register account aliases.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: dance on July 02, 2014, 03:11:32 PM
Yes you can but i'm currently fixing a bug in the html/javascript client that does not allow to register account aliases.
For now account aliases could be created using 'Other' type and data in this format:
acct:XXX@fim
where XXX is a numeric account.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: dance on July 02, 2014, 03:13:14 PM
Are those who used escrow forging already? Or not?
If they are using the given account - yes. If they transferred holdings to a new one - not yet.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: PilotofBTC on July 02, 2014, 03:16:37 PM
How to log on the wallet? what's the URL?
https://wallet.fimk.fi:7886

There is an annoying technical requirement to make an outgoing transaction somewhere before you can forge (do that before block 1440). FIMKrypto organization account is FIM-M3YE-7Q2G-JEZS-HPHK4.

Can you register an alias as you can with NXT?

Yes.
It costs 0.1FIMK

Right, so that should count as a "Sent" transaction that secures the account and allows forging. Right?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: PilotofBTC on July 02, 2014, 03:17:41 PM
Are those who used escrow forging already? Or not?
If they are using the given account - yes. If they transferred holdings to a new one - not yet.

I assume it is only forging is you are running the client and logged in. OR are you saying, my dgex balance is forging even though I haven't installed and logged into a client yet?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: onlinepro on July 02, 2014, 03:17:58 PM
How to log on the wallet? what's the URL?
https://wallet.fimk.fi:7886

There is an annoying technical requirement to make an outgoing transaction somewhere before you can forge (do that before block 1440). FIMKrypto organization account is FIM-M3YE-7Q2G-JEZS-HPHK4.

Can you register an alias as you can with NXT?

Yes.
It costs 0.1FIMK

Right, so that should count as a "Sent" transaction that secures the account and allows forging. Right?

I guess so.
But I'm not sure, I just sent 0.1 to someone.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: dance on July 02, 2014, 03:21:44 PM
Are those who used escrow forging already? Or not?
If they are using the given account - yes. If they transferred holdings to a new one - not yet.

I assume it is only forging is you are running the client and logged in. OR are you saying, my dgex balance is forging even though I haven't installed and logged into a client yet?
I meant only those who opened their wallets and started forging.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: FimKrypto on July 02, 2014, 03:28:40 PM
For now account aliases could be created using 'Other' type and data in this format:
acct:XXX@fim
where XXX is a numeric account.

Great thanks, thats how it will work to! I'll put that on the other forum (http://forum.fimk.fi/index.php?topic=34)

Right, so that should count as a "Sent" transaction that secures the account and allows forging. Right?

Yes. That counts as a transaction. Sending a message counts as a transaction to.

I assume it is only forging is you are running the client and logged in. OR are you saying, my dgex balance is forging even though I haven't installed and logged into a client yet?

You must either run a node and start forging there. Or start forging on the public node https://wallet.fimk.fi:7886.

But. I don't recommend doing that with large stakes. There is always the risk of that server being hacked/snooped or whatever.
We consider our sysadmin to be very good, but as a rule you should be very careful sending your passphrase to public nodes.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Primitive on July 02, 2014, 03:44:34 PM
thanks!

send FIM to my account (signature) if you need a place to send an initial transaction to.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Schultereisen on July 02, 2014, 03:50:45 PM
no block since 15 minutes?

i have send my password to forge and i hope it´s no problem?!


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: FimKrypto on July 02, 2014, 03:57:26 PM
no block since 15 minutes?
i have send my password to forge and i hope it´s no problem?!

Thats not what i see here. There are 30 peers on the network currently and most of them are on block 1158 which is less than a minute old.
There is one peer on block 1153 and one on 1155. Just give it time and the client will get you on the right block.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: jztxeno on July 02, 2014, 03:59:19 PM
any difference in using your local client or the web client?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Primitive on July 02, 2014, 04:01:02 PM
how many confirmations required for a transaction??


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: onlinepro on July 02, 2014, 04:07:23 PM
how many confirmations required for a transaction??

0?
It depends who your sending it.
Someone can accept it with 0 confirm someone can accept it with 100 confirms.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: FimKrypto on July 02, 2014, 04:10:39 PM
any difference in using your local client or the web client?

Yes. Lots of difference. Running your local client is much safer.
Currently you must send your passphrase to the public clients, not because it's needed but because the client was put together that way. That will change soon.

We'll probably have our blockexplorer up tonight or latest tomorrow, you can safely check your balance from that.

how many confirmations required for a transaction??

In order to start forging we require 1440 blocks (or confirmations). For the rest it's up to you. There is always the risk of being on a fork, that risk decreases with the amount of blocks (confirmations).
Since FIM blocks go faster than NXT (30 seconds) the wait time to trust a transaction is *real/confirmed* is halved.

If someone send you some FIM and you must decide if the FIM is safely in your account so you can; send them your gold/release your hostages  ;) as a rule of thumb 720 transactions is considered pretty safe.
The client uses an indicator of 10+ considering 10 blocks relatively safe. Basically it all depends..


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: jztxeno on July 02, 2014, 04:14:11 PM
Alright, so do you have to run your client 24/7 in order to forge like NXT?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: FimKrypto on July 02, 2014, 04:23:00 PM
Alright, so do you have to run your client 24/7 in order to forge like NXT?

Thats up to you. You forge by the second. Every 30 seconds there is a block.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: wizzardTim on July 02, 2014, 04:24:37 PM
Help!

I logged in into DGEX, seen where my finds have been paid (FIMK account).

Then I downloaded the offline wallet, entered the passphrase from dgex and that passphrase created a different account, with no FIM in it!


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: FimKrypto on July 02, 2014, 04:25:55 PM
Help!

I logged in into DGEX, seen where my finds have been paid (FIMK account).

Then I downloaded the offline wallet, entered the passphrase from dgex and that passphrase created a different account, with no FIM in it!

Try the passphrase but with a space added to the end.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: jztxeno on July 02, 2014, 04:27:47 PM
Alright, so do you have to run your client 24/7 in order to forge like NXT?

Thats up to you. You forge by the second. Every 30 seconds there is a block.

Ok, thanks. When will my effective balance update?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: wizzardTim on July 02, 2014, 04:28:16 PM
Help!

I logged in into DGEX, seen where my finds have been paid (FIMK account).

Then I downloaded the offline wallet, entered the passphrase from dgex and that passphrase created a different account, with no FIM in it!

Try the passphrase but with a space added to the end.

THANK you


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Schultereisen on July 02, 2014, 04:31:11 PM
what´s this?

if i copy anything ( accounts) and drop it into the box on the left (search box) side the blockchain stop!


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: FimKrypto on July 02, 2014, 04:32:48 PM
Ok, thanks. When will my effective balance update?

If you're a stakeholder there is some specialness where you can forge immediately after your first transaction. But only if you do that txn before block 2880!
Otherwise it takes 1440 blocks. This is to prevent people from moving their stakes around to trick the system.

Try the passphrase but with a space added to the end.
THANK you

You're welcome. Thanks for trusting FIMK!

what´s this?
if i copy anything ( accounts) and drop it into the box on the left (search box) side the blockchain stop!

It seems to work here. What did you enter in the search box?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: megashira1 on July 02, 2014, 04:35:21 PM
Ok, thanks. When will my effective balance update?

If you're a stakeholder there is some specialness where you can forge immediately after your first transaction. But only if you do that txn before block 2880!
Otherwise it takes 1440 blocks. This is to prevent people from moving their stakes around to trick the system.

Try the passphrase but with a space added to the end.
THANK you

You're welcome. Thanks for trusting FIMK!

what´s this?
if i copy anything ( accounts) and drop it into the box on the left (search box) side the blockchain stop!

It seems to work here. What did you enter in the search box?

But if we purchased via dgex we are recomended to transfer FIMK to new address and thus we cannot forge early.  :(


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Vega on July 02, 2014, 04:36:28 PM
I'm wondering how the forging reward will chance trading practices. With Nxt there are huge exchange wallets, tens of millions of coins for the bigger ones.
With FIMK there is a big incentive not to keep coins on exchange accounts.

Of course this depends on how exhanges will treat the forging earnings, but I don't see them distributing it. But at least fees should be nonexistent, the exchange could still make serious money by forging.



Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Primitive on July 02, 2014, 04:57:32 PM
can someone tell me: will my wallet forge when my computer goes to sleep?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: dance on July 02, 2014, 05:01:32 PM
can someone tell me: will my wallet forge when my computer goes to sleep?
No.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Primitive on July 02, 2014, 05:04:49 PM
ok i thought so.    such a bummer since i go on a trip tomorrow for 2 weeks.  i wish i could forge with my new coins :(


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: josegines on July 02, 2014, 05:05:03 PM
How it works forging?

In one hour I forged 3 blocks, in the next hour, none.

Thanks.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: dance on July 02, 2014, 05:16:59 PM
How it works forging?

In one hour I forged 3 blocks, in the next hour, none.

Thanks.
Each block you are getting a reward with a possibility equals to (your confirmed amount) / (sum of all confirmed amounts participating in forging in that moment).


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Schultereisen on July 02, 2014, 05:53:01 PM
my guaranted balance is 0 ... what does it mean?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Simakki on July 02, 2014, 06:04:27 PM
http://m.aamulehti.fi/talous/tasta-haastaja-bitcoinille-suomalaiset-julkaisivat-uuden-kryptovaluutan-nyt-maai?v=1

That's quite popular newspaper in certain parts of Finland, not just some crappy webzine!


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: jl777 on July 02, 2014, 06:06:42 PM
I am not seeing any peers
is there a list of peers to start with?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: onlinepro on July 02, 2014, 06:14:53 PM
I am not seeing any peers
is there a list of peers to start with?

I see, 21 Connected Peers
But what are peers? I have never heard of them before.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: mirador17 on July 02, 2014, 06:17:28 PM
I got my account from dgex, passphrase has worked fine and coins are there. I'm forging but with only few coins the chance to find a block is very small. Never mind, good work Fimk-team and dgex.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: jl777 on July 02, 2014, 06:18:57 PM
I am not seeing any peers
is there a list of peers to start with?

I see, 21 Connected Peers
But what are peers? I have never heard of them before.
its the various nodes that are part of the network
can you post a few ip addresses of the peers that you are connected to?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: onlinepro on July 02, 2014, 06:21:09 PM
I am not seeing any peers
is there a list of peers to start with?

I see, 21 Connected Peers
But what are peers? I have never heard of them before.
its the various nodes that are part of the network
can you post a few ip addresses of the peers that you are connected to?

Why do you need them?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: jl777 on July 02, 2014, 06:23:52 PM
I am not seeing any peers
is there a list of peers to start with?

I see, 21 Connected Peers
But what are peers? I have never heard of them before.
its the various nodes that are part of the network
can you post a few ip addresses of the peers that you are connected to?

Why do you need them?
I want to join the network, but I cant without knowing at least one peer's IP address
for some reason it is not finding them automatically


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: onlinepro on July 02, 2014, 06:26:13 PM
I am not seeing any peers
is there a list of peers to start with?

I see, 21 Connected Peers
But what are peers? I have never heard of them before.
its the various nodes that are part of the network
can you post a few ip addresses of the peers that you are connected to?

Why do you need them?
I want to join the network, but I cant without knowing at least one peer's IP address
for some reason it is not finding them automatically

Okay.
Take twenty :P

107.170.123.54   
5.101.102.196
5.101.102.194
5.101.102.197   
107.170.73.9
198.23.188.172
104.131.142.87   
5.101.102.202   
5.101.102.204   
80.222.250.28
5.101.102.203
167.88.118.233   
5.101.102.205
107.170.138.55
5.101.102.200
5.101.102.201
83.145.204.220
5.101.102.199
5.101.102.195   
146.185.168.129


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Schultereisen on July 02, 2014, 06:26:44 PM
jl777 how much million Fink do you have?

more than 10 million ?  ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Primitive on July 02, 2014, 06:36:53 PM
does the speed of my computer, or the speed of my internet connection affect the rate at which I forge?

thank you


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: highscore on July 02, 2014, 06:37:36 PM
my guaranted balance is 0 ... what does it mean?
wait


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: jl777 on July 02, 2014, 06:41:31 PM
does the speed of my computer, or the speed of my internet connection affect the rate at which I forge?

thank you
Not unless you have really bad bandwidth and cant keep up with the network
CPU usage is minimal


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: jl777 on July 02, 2014, 06:42:07 PM
I am not seeing any peers
is there a list of peers to start with?

I see, 21 Connected Peers
But what are peers? I have never heard of them before.
its the various nodes that are part of the network
can you post a few ip addresses of the peers that you are connected to?

Why do you need them?
I want to join the network, but I cant without knowing at least one peer's IP address
for some reason it is not finding them automatically

Okay.
Take twenty :P

107.170.123.54   
5.101.102.196
5.101.102.194
5.101.102.197   
107.170.73.9
198.23.188.172
104.131.142.87   
5.101.102.202   
5.101.102.204   
80.222.250.28
5.101.102.203
167.88.118.233   
5.101.102.205
107.170.138.55
5.101.102.200
5.101.102.201
83.145.204.220
5.101.102.199
5.101.102.195   
146.185.168.129
thanks, the problem was FIM doesnt seem to work via proxy


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Primitive on July 02, 2014, 07:29:23 PM
I have my wallet client running fine on OSX.

BUT.... on Windows i can't get it to run.

when I launch run.bat the cmd window says - "java software not found...."

But Javascript is installed.

Any help?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: gvans on July 02, 2014, 07:32:42 PM
On not another round alias-squatting lol! We had this with nxt. I'm too old for this. Need some sleep 8)

edit: Meanwhile everybody, feel free to use my FIMK-logo anywhere if you so desire. Found in my signature. It's made in Finland ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: lyaffe2 on July 02, 2014, 07:58:25 PM
I have my wallet client running fine on OSX.

BUT.... on Windows i can't get it to run.

when I launch run.bat the cmd window says - "java software not found...."

But Javascript is installed.

Any help?

You have to download and install Java 7 from http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/index.html


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Primitive on July 02, 2014, 07:59:03 PM
Any Windows user having success?  I can't get it to work.  When I run the .bat, now I see the script launching, and then for a moment, the last line says "User interface not enabled" and then the CMD window closes.

I really need to get this fixed because I leave in a few hours for 2 weeks and would like to be forging while i'm away.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: teletobi on July 02, 2014, 08:02:51 PM
I´m running a PasPi as my nxt peer. Is it possible to run nxt and Fim on one Machine?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: gvans on July 02, 2014, 08:16:28 PM
Was there any working block explorer? this does not seem to work http://188.226.211.70/ (http://188.226.211.70/)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: teletobi on July 02, 2014, 08:37:18 PM
Was there any working block explorer? this does not seem to work http://188.226.211.70/ (http://188.226.211.70/)

We'll probably have our blockexplorer up tonight or latest tomorrow, you can safely check your balance from that.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on July 02, 2014, 08:40:12 PM
Any Windows user having success?  I can't get it to work.  When I run the .bat, now I see the script launching, and then for a moment, the last line says "User interface not enabled" and then the CMD window closes.

I really need to get this fixed because I leave in a few hours for 2 weeks and would like to be forging while i'm away.

Did you try to update java?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: josegines on July 02, 2014, 08:40:22 PM
I made a block but disappeared after a few minutes.


The block is still listed as wrought by me, but no longer appears in my list.

Can a forged block appear and disappear as a few minutes?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on July 02, 2014, 08:45:57 PM
There is an updated version with alias registration fix and some client cosmetics.

https://github.com/fimkrypto/fimk/releases/download/v0.2.1/fim-0.2.1.zip

Can a forged block appear and disappear as a few minutes?
Please wait for a while or restart your wallet.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: josegines on July 02, 2014, 09:03:19 PM

Can a forged block appear and disappear as a few minutes?
Please wait for a while or restart your wallet.

restarting the wallet, the block appears no longer assigned to my account, but to another.


Minutes was assigned to my account, at least that I've seen it in my wallet.

It seems that even after allocated blocks can switch accounts.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Primitive on July 02, 2014, 09:05:49 PM

Did you try to update java?

yes i did everything.   i switched to another PC and it seems to be ok now.  something odd with that initial computer i guess.

thanks


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: casx on July 02, 2014, 09:08:37 PM
need a intruduction how to use it on a mac!


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Primitive on July 02, 2014, 09:45:16 PM
If I move my FIM out of my Stakeholder account (DGEX) into a fresh account, will I be able to forge? 


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: rriky92 on July 02, 2014, 10:00:19 PM
Got my FIM! Thanks!


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Primitive on July 02, 2014, 10:09:28 PM
Log Out vs Log Out and Stop Forging.

can someone explain the difference, and when you would use one option over another?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: cwb27 on July 02, 2014, 10:14:08 PM
congratz on ipo. how did manage to get many investor little marketing? only 20 pages yet 700 btc if u no discount last 200. what is secret


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: mellorbo on July 02, 2014, 10:50:41 PM
so is there any votes to get on an exchange i can help out with?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: megashira1 on July 02, 2014, 10:55:10 PM
If I move my FIM out of my Stakeholder account (DGEX) into a fresh account, will I be able to forge?  

You will have to wait for +1440 confirmations in your new account. I was planning on transferring FIMK from my DGEX issued acccount to a new account but didnt want to miss the opportunity to forge early. I actually just forged a block! But yes I am in the same dilemma..


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: nismhjt on July 02, 2014, 11:28:06 PM
did anyone forge a block?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: mightname on July 02, 2014, 11:31:01 PM
did anyone forge a block?

Of course.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: megashira1 on July 02, 2014, 11:32:52 PM
Anyone know the total % of FIMK forging?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: mightname on July 02, 2014, 11:38:58 PM
Anyone know the total % of FIMK forging?

• 333.14 million FIMK distributed to stakeholders (you can be one) by Jul 1st 2014
• 333.72 million FIMK distributed as block rewards during ~4 years after launch
• 313 million FIMK paid as basic income for every opt-in Finnish citizen >15 yrs of age

• 17 million FIMK reserved for bonus block rewards, promotion, marketing, bounties
• 3.14 million FIMK for organizational costs
• average block objective 30 secs
• block finder is rewarded automatically the transaction fees included in the block, plus extra reward according to the following table:
 
FORGER_FEE_STAGE 1: 200 (DAY 0 to DAY 308)
FORGER_FEE_STAGE 2: 100 (DAY 309 to DAY 618)
FORGER_FEE_STAGE 3: 50 (DAY 619 to DAY 928)
FORGER_FEE_STAGE 4: 25 (DAY 929 to DAY 1238)

TOTAL FEE STAGE 1 177984000
TOTAL FEE STAGE 2 88992000
TOTAL FEE STAGE 3 44496000
TOTAL FEE STAGE 4 22248000
 
SECONDS_BETWEEN_BLOCK 30sec


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: lovely89 on July 02, 2014, 11:44:31 PM
any difference in using your local client or the web client?

Yes. Lots of difference. Running your local client is much safer.
Currently you must send your passphrase to the public clients, not because it's needed but because the client was put together that way. That will change soon.

We'll probably have our blockexplorer up tonight or latest tomorrow, you can safely check your balance from that.

how many confirmations required for a transaction??

In order to start forging we require 1440 blocks (or confirmations). For the rest it's up to you. There is always the risk of being on a fork, that risk decreases with the amount of blocks (confirmations).
Since FIM blocks go faster than NXT (30 seconds) the wait time to trust a transaction is *real/confirmed* is halved.

If someone send you some FIM and you must decide if the FIM is safely in your account so you can; send them your gold/release your hostages  ;) as a rule of thumb 720 transactions is considered pretty safe.
The client uses an indicator of 10+ considering 10 blocks relatively safe. Basically it all depends..


I transferred my fim from Dgex and have about 720 confirmations. This is after 12 hours, so this is 1 confirmation a minute instead of every 30 seconds. I'm using the wallet.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: megashira1 on July 03, 2014, 12:00:03 AM
Anyone know the total % of FIMK forging?

• 333.14 million FIMK distributed to stakeholders (you can be one) by Jul 1st 2014
• 333.72 million FIMK distributed as block rewards during ~4 years after launch
• 313 million FIMK paid as basic income for every opt-in Finnish citizen >15 yrs of age

• 17 million FIMK reserved for bonus block rewards, promotion, marketing, bounties
• 3.14 million FIMK for organizational costs
• average block objective 30 secs
• block finder is rewarded automatically the transaction fees included in the block, plus extra reward according to the following table:
 
FORGER_FEE_STAGE 1: 200 (DAY 0 to DAY 308)
FORGER_FEE_STAGE 2: 100 (DAY 309 to DAY 618)
FORGER_FEE_STAGE 3: 50 (DAY 619 to DAY 928)
FORGER_FEE_STAGE 4: 25 (DAY 929 to DAY 1238)

TOTAL FEE STAGE 1 177984000
TOTAL FEE STAGE 2 88992000
TOTAL FEE STAGE 3 44496000
TOTAL FEE STAGE 4 22248000
 
SECONDS_BETWEEN_BLOCK 30sec

Yes, but how much of that distributed supply is actually forging tho?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: gvans on July 03, 2014, 12:45:43 AM
..and more questions:
1. May I forge simultaneously with FIMK and NXT wallet from same computer?
2. May I forge with two different FIMK accounts with two different computers from same ip-address? Doable?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: wiser on July 03, 2014, 12:48:10 AM
..and more questions:
1. May I forge simultaneously with FIMK and NXT wallet from same computer?
2. May I forge with two different FIMK accounts with two different computers from same ip-address? Doable?

I'd like to know too. For a while today I did have both my Fimk client and my NXT offspring running and forging at the same time, and it looked right, but I can't say for sure because neither forged any blocks during that time.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: mellorbo on July 03, 2014, 12:49:20 AM
..and more questions:
1. May I forge simultaneously with FIMK and NXT wallet from same computer?
2. May I forge with two different FIMK accounts with two different computers from same ip-address? Doable?

I'd like to know too. For a while today I did have both my Fimk client and my NXT offspring running and forging at the same time, and it looked right, but I can't say for sure because neither forged any blocks during that time.
+1
i also would like to know


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: xibeijan on July 03, 2014, 01:05:13 AM
..and more questions:
1. May I forge simultaneously with FIMK and NXT wallet from same computer?
2. May I forge with two different FIMK accounts with two different computers from same ip-address? Doable?

I'd like to know too. For a while today I did have both my Fimk client and my NXT offspring running and forging at the same time, and it looked right, but I can't say for sure because neither forged any blocks during that time.
+1
i also would like to know

me too


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: quiglag on July 03, 2014, 02:26:28 AM
How many coins would you need to forge a block a week?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: megashira1 on July 03, 2014, 03:16:56 AM
How many coins would you need to forge a block a week?

I forged a block with an account of 300k and it has been maybe 12 hours?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: quiglag on July 03, 2014, 04:16:33 AM
How many coins would you need to forge a block a week?

About 16,000

Well I just forged a block with 4,800, but I guess that doesn't really mean anything. It could be month before I forge another one.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: vincentvincent on July 03, 2014, 05:00:54 AM
Is a working block explorer available? The block explorer mentioned in the starting post doesn't seem to work?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: illodin on July 03, 2014, 05:24:51 AM
The "block reward" when you forge doesn't show up in the transactions list?

But if they show up in Blocks / Forged by You then you have gotten the 200 coins, right?

And if the block orphans, it will be removed from the Forged by You list?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: quiglag on July 03, 2014, 05:44:22 AM
The "block reward" when you forge doesn't show up in the transactions list?

But if they show up in Blocks / Forged by You then you have gotten the 200 coins, right?

And if the block orphans, it will be removed from the Forged by You list?

That looks right to me.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: BitTom on July 03, 2014, 06:34:59 AM
http://www.yibite.com/blog-23482-447.html

another article partly introduce FIMK.

 :D


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: wizzardTim on July 03, 2014, 07:18:29 AM
Do you think FIMK will ever reach the top 10 in market cap?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: BitTom on July 03, 2014, 07:24:01 AM
Do you think FIMK will ever reach the top 10 in market cap?
I think so.
reach the top 5 probably.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: highscore on July 03, 2014, 07:31:24 AM
Do you think FIMK will ever reach the top 10 in market cap?
I think so.
reach the top 5 probably.
;D top 1.
I think top 15-20


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: FimKrypto on July 03, 2014, 08:38:02 AM
thanks, the problem was FIM doesnt seem to work via proxy

Is this an issue with FIM? Does NXT do work with that same proxy?

Any Windows user having success?  I can't get it to work.  When I run the .bat, now I see the script launching, and then for a moment, the last line says "User interface not enabled" and then the CMD window closes.

What does the rest of the cmd window say?

I´m running a PasPi as my nxt peer. Is it possible to run nxt and Fim on one Machine?

They run on different ports so that should work. Not sure if the device you mention can handle it.

I made a block but disappeared after a few minutes.
The block is still listed as wrought by me, but no longer appears in my list.
Can a forged block appear and disappear as a few minutes?

You can forge a block which your client lists as forged by you, but since you're on a network with other peers your client can receive a block forged by another that has a higher difficulty. Your block will be removed then and replaced with the better block. Not sure if removed blocks are also correctly removed from the html/js client (frontend code) it could be thats why it's not removed from all places you see the block. Reloading your browser should normally fix such things.

need a intruduction how to use it on a mac!

These instructions for NXT seem to apply for FIM to http://wiki.nxtcrypto.org/wiki/How-To:InstallNRSMacOS
After FIM is started navigate to http://127.0.0.1:7886 (instead of 7876 which is the NXT port)

Log Out vs Log Out and Stop Forging.
can someone explain the difference, and when you would use one option over another?

When you enter your passphrase in the startscreen and check the "Remember my password" checkbox the wallet is basically unlocked and can be used by anyone who has access to your computer. Logging out forces the client to forget the passphrase. You can log out but still have the core code continue forging, running only in memory basically.

So you don't need to keep your browser open to forge blocks.

Anyone know the total % of FIMK forging?

That's unknown. Only if you run a hallmark others can see what balance you are forging with but since not everyone has a hallmark you can never know. The current base target does give an indication what amount was forging when that last block was made.

I transferred my fim from Dgex and have about 720 confirmations. This is after 12 hours, so this is 1 confirmation a minute instead of every 30 seconds. I'm using the wallet.

The block time is an approximation and will vary. On the test net where we have run FIM for over a month while doing more than 2 million transactions the average block time was between 32 and 54 seconds, this varied per day.

..and more questions:
1. May I forge simultaneously with FIMK and NXT wallet from same computer?
2. May I forge with two different FIMK accounts with two different computers from same ip-address? Doable?

1. Yes you can forge simultaneously with NXT and FIM. The java process is relatively light weight and since they run on different ports there is no conflict
2. Yes you can forge from the same ip address or on all separate ips it doesn't matter, there will eventually only be one block that wins.

Is a working block explorer available? The block explorer mentioned in the starting post doesn't seem to work?

We are working on that. The one in the opening post was the blockexplorer to our old automated test environment.

The "block reward" when you forge doesn't show up in the transactions list?
But if they show up in Blocks / Forged by You then you have gotten the 200 coins, right?
And if the block orphans, it will be removed from the Forged by You list?

Look on the dashboard in the "Forged Balance" block, it shows the total amount of FIM you have earned forging.





Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: dance on July 03, 2014, 08:50:40 AM
You can log out but still have the core code continue forging, running only in memory basically.
So you don't need to keep your browser open to forge blocks.
If I'm using wallet on your website, how big uptime can I expect after I log out without stopping forging?
Any scheduled log-offs or reboots?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: FimKrypto on July 03, 2014, 09:05:52 AM
You can log out but still have the core code continue forging, running only in memory basically.
So you don't need to keep your browser open to forge blocks.
If I'm using wallet on your website, how big uptime can I expect after I log out without stopping forging?
Any scheduled log-offs or reboots?

The FIM application restarts pretty often for various reasons. Uptime will vary greatly.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: abctc on July 03, 2014, 09:44:37 AM
Interesting statement from Graviton, owner of DGex:

Quote from: Graviton link=https://nxtforum.org/index.php?topic=1948.msg58472#msg58472
..
DGEX will issue FIMK tokens in the NXT AE and will act as the gateway for their redemption to / from NXT.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Simakki on July 03, 2014, 09:54:28 AM
Interesting statement from Graviton, owner of DGex:

Quote from: Graviton link=https://nxtforum.org/index.php?topic=1948.msg58472#msg58472
..
DGEX will issue FIMK tokens in the NXT AE and will act as the gateway for their redemption to / from NXT.

I'm hoping to see FIMK - BTC trading soon as possible or even trading FIMK - EUR.

Nxt ae would be good start but i don't see newcomers easily adopt any coin via that way. And coin with such a low volume, that move would probably pump the price of NXT for a couple of days just like what happened with NEMtokens.





Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: illodin on July 03, 2014, 10:07:51 AM
I asked one exchange to add FIMK, and their response was:

Browser wallet only... Can't integrate at the moment.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: nismhjt on July 03, 2014, 10:10:38 AM
I asked one exchange to add FIMK, and their response was:

Browser wallet only... Can't integrate at the moment.


If trading volume is decent in dgex, many exchanges will add FIMK


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: bitcoinpaul on July 03, 2014, 12:01:06 PM
dgex trading starts any minute...


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: onlinepro on July 03, 2014, 12:23:33 PM
dgex trading starts any minute...

Dgex looks horrible.
And this "Thank you for deposit! Your deposit will be confirmed manually and funds released for trading ASAP." is even more horrible.
I hope they confirm it soon, but I guess I have to wait manually confirm for withdraw too. So slow  :'(
We need to get FIM to Cryptsy or something.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on July 03, 2014, 12:25:10 PM
DGEX is now trading FIMK :)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: onlinepro on July 03, 2014, 12:28:41 PM
Anyone know how long it usually takes them to confirm deposits?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: PL_CoinTrader on July 03, 2014, 12:33:08 PM
Anyone know how long it usually takes them to confirm deposits?

Up to 24h. But I guess depositing Fimk will be faster today because they just launched it so the admins are online to confirm deposits anyway.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Mario123 on July 03, 2014, 12:34:05 PM
DGEX is now trading FIMK :)

Confirming the deposit -> browser redirects to a white page (https://dgex.com/depoconf_fimk.cgi)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on July 03, 2014, 12:35:02 PM
Anyone know how long it usually takes them to confirm deposits?
It's advised to NOT confirm transfers under 10 confirmations, and considering the FIMK network is new it may be wise / understandable to wait a bit longer anyway.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: onlinepro on July 03, 2014, 12:36:55 PM
Anyone know how long it usually takes them to confirm deposits?
It's advised to NOT confirm transfers under 10 confirmations, and considering the FIMK network is new it may be wise / understandable to wait a bit longer anyway.

I was talking about deposits to Dgex (they have manual confirmations).
But I got them now :)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: c_lab on July 03, 2014, 12:37:46 PM
Confirming the deposit -> browser redirects to a white page (https://dgex.com/depoconf_fimk.cgi)

...same story  ::)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: PL_CoinTrader on July 03, 2014, 12:38:15 PM
I can't generate a token, it says: "secretPhrase" not specified
Any ideas?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: onlinepro on July 03, 2014, 12:40:03 PM
I can't generate a token, it says: "secretPhrase" not specified
Any ideas?

Same with me.
Seems like we can't deposit fimks atm  :-X


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: PL_CoinTrader on July 03, 2014, 12:41:24 PM
Can we use Nxt's token feature? With the same passphrase we can log in to the same account and the algo for generating tokens is probably the same too I guess.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Mario123 on July 03, 2014, 12:41:45 PM
Confirming the deposit -> browser redirects to a white page (https://dgex.com/depoconf_fimk.cgi)

...same story  ::)

It worked now.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on July 03, 2014, 12:43:53 PM
I can't generate a token, it says: "secretPhrase" not specified
Any ideas?
In the FIMK wallet you mean? Local or web wallet?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: onlinepro on July 03, 2014, 12:45:49 PM
I can't generate a token, it says: "secretPhrase" not specified
Any ideas?
In the FIMK wallet you mean? Local or web wallet?

Same error with me, with web wallet.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: PL_CoinTrader on July 03, 2014, 12:46:11 PM
I can't generate a token, it says: "secretPhrase" not specified
Any ideas?
In the FIMK wallet you mean? Local or web wallet?

Web wallet. I have generated the token with Nxt now, both softwares should generate the same token for the same account, right?

edit: local wallet works. I hope dgex accepts my deposit.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: onlinepro on July 03, 2014, 01:03:45 PM
"secretPhrase" not specified
I wan't to deposit  :'(
What I can do to make it work?
I'm using web wallet.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: PL_CoinTrader on July 03, 2014, 01:04:30 PM
"secretPhrase" not specified
I wan't to deposit  :'(
What I can do to make it work?

Do it with the local wallet http://127.0.0.1:7886/


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: onlinepro on July 03, 2014, 01:06:14 PM
"secretPhrase" not specified
I wan't to deposit  :'(
What I can do to make it work?

Do it with the local wallet http://127.0.0.1:7886/

Link isn't working.
I have to download something to make that link work?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: warmach on July 03, 2014, 01:08:14 PM
"secretPhrase" not specified
I wan't to deposit  :'(
What I can do to make it work?

Do it with the local wallet http://127.0.0.1:7886/

Link isn't working.
I have to download something to make that link work?

Yup.  I would do that anyway for security reasons.  Why send your pass phrase across the internet if you didn't have to.

Here is latest client...

http://forum.fimk.fi/index.php?topic=37.0


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: PL_CoinTrader on July 03, 2014, 01:12:19 PM
"secretPhrase" not specified
I wan't to deposit  :'(
What I can do to make it work?

Do it with the local wallet http://127.0.0.1:7886/

Link isn't working.
I have to download something to make that link work?

Jep, see first page: https://github.com/fimkrypto/fimk/releases/download/v0.2.1/fim-0.2.1.zip (https://github.com/fimkrypto/fimk/releases/download/v0.2.1/fim-0.2.1.zip)
run the run.bat file (for windows user), wait a little and then the link should be working.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: PL_CoinTrader on July 03, 2014, 01:15:22 PM
Interesting to see the market getting established at Dgex.

BASELINE "FAIR" STARTING PRICE WOULD BE AROUND 530 BTC / 333,000,000 FIMK = 0.0000016 OR "5Z16".

After the first sellers make a windfall profit from the crazy-high initial enthusiasm bids at levels that can't be sustained long-term, there probably will be a crash back down to around this level.  Then the long, slow growth begins.  My prediction.


I'm not so sure about that. Why should anybody selling without having at least a little return on investment? I think the price will be around 0.00001 for a while.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: onlinepro on July 03, 2014, 01:22:14 PM
"secretPhrase" not specified
I wan't to deposit  :'(
What I can do to make it work?

Do it with the local wallet http://127.0.0.1:7886/

Link isn't working.
I have to download something to make that link work?

Jep, see first page: https://github.com/fimkrypto/fimk/releases/download/v0.2.1/fim-0.2.1.zip (https://github.com/fimkrypto/fimk/releases/download/v0.2.1/fim-0.2.1.zip)
run the run.bat file (for windows user), wait a little and then the link should be working.

Got it working now, thanks.
Now I'm just waiting for confirmation.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: nismhjt on July 03, 2014, 01:43:14 PM
hi dev, did you mail coinmarketcap to add fimk?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: onlinepro on July 03, 2014, 01:58:37 PM
Gdex down?

Website is offline No cached version of this page is available.
Error 504 Ray ID: 144396daed650f87
Gateway time-out

Edit, it is working now.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on July 03, 2014, 01:59:28 PM
hi dev, did you mail coinmarketcap to add fimk?
Not yet, we take it easy at the beginning.

Quote
BASELINE "FAIR" STARTING PRICE WOULD BE AROUND 530 BTC / 333,000,000 FIMK = 0.0000016 OR "5Z16".
Hmm, how much compared to the stakeholder donations was NXT's initial valuation at DGEX? 100 times IPO value, or 1000 times? ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: gvans on July 03, 2014, 02:08:34 PM
btw downloadable wallet 0.2.1 says "0.2.0" on frontpage and readme-documentation


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: onlinepro on July 03, 2014, 02:09:17 PM
Interesting to see the market getting established at Dgex.

BASELINE "FAIR" STARTING PRICE WOULD BE AROUND 530 BTC / 333,000,000 FIMK = 0.0000016 OR "5Z16".

After the first sellers make a windfall profit from the crazy-high initial enthusiasm bids at levels that can't be sustained long-term, there probably will be a crash back down to around this level.  Then the long, slow growth begins.  My prediction.


Of course early investors get them cheaper...
If they wouldn't, there wouldn't be reason to invest early at all.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on July 03, 2014, 02:15:57 PM
The token can also be created here and may work better than the frontend interface:

https://wallet.fimk.fi:7886/admin.html

Please note that nobody but yourself is responsible for the consequences of accessing a public wallet with your secret FIMK passphrase. You should not do that for any accounts with significant amounts in them. The connection is encrypted, BUT if the public wallet server is compromised in any other way an attacker could read the private keys of all currently open accounts from the program memory.

We recommend using the downloadable wallet from http://fimk.fi/en/wallet.htm


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Primitive on July 03, 2014, 02:19:50 PM
can someone ELI5 what the tokens are for?  i thought that real coins are already launched?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: apa on July 03, 2014, 02:24:26 PM
I neither understood why there are those tokens? why cannot just transfer fimks from my addres to my dgex address..?

btw. should i first transfer the money and then generate the token or vice versa?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: mtbitcoin on July 03, 2014, 02:29:49 PM
Gdex down?

Website is offline No cached version of this page is available.
Error 504 Ray ID: 144396daed650f87
Gateway time-out

Edit, it is working now.

Dgex .... is stuttering ......  ;D

Must be a mad rush to sell buy coins


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: dance on July 03, 2014, 02:41:03 PM
can someone ELI5 what the tokens are for?  i thought that real coins are already launched?
They are just security values, generated for receiver to understand that it is indeed you.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: dance on July 03, 2014, 02:42:57 PM
I neither understood why there are those tokens? why cannot just transfer fimks from my addres to my dgex address..?

btw. should i first transfer the money and then generate the token or vice versa?
DGEX uses shared wallets for deposits, and they don't know initially the sender's nxt/fimk/nas/etc account numbers.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: apa on July 03, 2014, 02:56:44 PM
Invalid token. Please enter a valid FIMK account token.
Why cant i make deposit?
I first transferred fimks and then generated the token


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: highscore on July 03, 2014, 03:26:48 PM
Invalid token. Please enter a valid FIMK account token.
Why cant i make deposit?
I first transferred fimks and then generated the token
The same problem


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: jztxeno on July 03, 2014, 03:29:39 PM
LOL why everyone is trying to sell their coins :D


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: dance on July 03, 2014, 03:39:23 PM
LOL why everyone is trying to sell their coins :D
Buy orders total amount is little larger than sells amount.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: casx on July 03, 2014, 03:50:00 PM
LOL why everyone is trying to sell their coins :D
Buy orders total amount is little larger than sells amount.

im very excited where the party is going after 3 months.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: FimKrypto on July 03, 2014, 03:53:24 PM
LOL why everyone is trying to sell their coins :D
Buy orders total amount is little larger than sells amount.
im very excited where the party is going after 3 months.

The party will be in Finland!


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: smaragda on July 03, 2014, 03:57:03 PM
The party will be in Finland!

Hell Yeah Baby...   I'm gonna marry me a Finland woman!!!   :-*


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: megashira1 on July 03, 2014, 04:06:47 PM
I think i will change my legal name to Teemu in support of FIMK!


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: FimKrypto on July 03, 2014, 04:10:32 PM
I think i will change my legal name to Teemu in support of FIMK!

What's a Teemu?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: megashira1 on July 03, 2014, 04:12:38 PM
I think i will change my legal name to Teemu in support of FIMK!

What's a Teemu?

A Teemu is a certain sub-specie of Selanne.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: FimKrypto on July 03, 2014, 04:14:53 PM
We're still working on the blockexplorer so expect some downtime/reloads but it should be usable now..
Assets and aliases will be added later..

FIMK Blockexplorer http://80.240.143.139 (http://80.240.143.139/)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on July 03, 2014, 04:34:51 PM
A Teemu is a certain sub-specie of Selanne.
I like that!

Teemu probably has more dollarz than the total FIMK in existence now. So we're equal.  :P


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: jztxeno on July 03, 2014, 04:38:11 PM
We're still working on the blockexplorer so expect some downtime/reloads but it should be usable now..
Assets and aliases will be added later..

FIMK Blockexplorer http://80.240.143.139 (http://80.240.143.139/)

Awesome!


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: onlinepro on July 03, 2014, 04:41:20 PM
We're still working on the blockexplorer so expect some downtime/reloads but it should be usable now..
Assets and aliases will be added later..

FIMK Blockexplorer http://80.240.143.139 (http://80.240.143.139/)

Wow, that is best looking block explorer I have ever seen, after blockchain.info.
Very good work with that!


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: FimKrypto on July 03, 2014, 04:47:41 PM
We're still working on the blockexplorer so expect some downtime/reloads but it should be usable now..
Assets and aliases will be added later..

FIMK Blockexplorer http://80.240.143.139 (http://80.240.143.139/)

Wow, that is best looking block explorer I have ever seen, after blockchain.info.
Very good work with that!

Well thank you, it's just something we threw together for our Automated Test Environment.
For the people interested, this version is built on Ruby on Rails and used Twitter Bootstrap for styling.
The next (and final version) will be based on Angular (that's what google used to create GMail).


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: nismhjt on July 03, 2014, 05:13:06 PM
Not so much trading interest on FMIK in dgex. Get it on other exchanges


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Primitive on July 03, 2014, 05:16:56 PM
Not so much trading interest on FMIK in dgex. Get it on other exchanges

this is only day 1 :)

best to not move too quickly.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: onlinepro on July 03, 2014, 05:21:41 PM
Not so much trading interest on FMIK in dgex. Get it on other exchanges

this is only day 1 :)

best to not move too quickly.

lol, I just made 36% profit with trading :P
So I would say it is good to move quickly and now it is getting damn slow now so I just withdrew.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Primitive on July 03, 2014, 05:27:43 PM
lets hope people dont treat this as a quick profit / trading coin.  thats not what FIM should be.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: onlinepro on July 03, 2014, 05:31:30 PM
lets hope people dont treat this as a quick profit / trading coin.  thats not what FIM should be.

Why wouldn't I trade?
I think 14k is much better to have than 10k....
Especially if you get those extra 4k for practically free.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: nismhjt on July 03, 2014, 05:33:39 PM
hope FIMK doesn't become another NAS


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: bitcoinpaul on July 03, 2014, 05:37:48 PM
I saw these prices with Nxt in december 2013 and many people sold.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: jztxeno on July 03, 2014, 05:40:01 PM
I saw these prices with Nxt in december 2013 and many people sold.

 ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: megashira1 on July 03, 2014, 05:41:53 PM
wtf. How are people getting FIMK on exchange with the token issue?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: onlinepro on July 03, 2014, 05:42:51 PM
wtf. How are people getting FIMK on exchange with the token issue?

You must download wallet to make it work.
Something wrong with web wallet.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Primitive on July 03, 2014, 06:20:41 PM
What happens if you are logged into your FIM client in 2 locations?  For example if my main computer at home is logged in and forging, is it OK if I log in at another location to make a transaction or check balance etc?

When I log out of second location, will forging continue?

Thanks. 


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: FimKrypto on July 03, 2014, 06:27:27 PM
What happens if you are logged into your FIM client in 2 locations?  For example if my main computer at home is logged in and forging, is it OK if I log in at another location to make a transaction or check balance etc?
When I log out of second location, will forging continue?
Thanks. 

That makes no difference.
Forging is done on the client level.
You can log in on as many machines as you like and have them all forging but you would basically be competing with yourself.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: bulltrap on July 03, 2014, 06:37:18 PM
Does network latency have an effect on the forging performance?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: FimKrypto on July 03, 2014, 06:38:38 PM
Does network latency have an effect on the forging performance?

No. If your block is better and it's transmitted to a single peer it will eventually end up in the blockchain.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: wiser on July 03, 2014, 07:04:45 PM
I saw these prices with Nxt in december 2013 and many people sold.

That's when I bought most of my NXT--OK, a bit higher, but WAY lower than I've ever seen them more recently...


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: yassin54 on July 03, 2014, 07:07:00 PM
my first block forged  ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: nismhjt on July 03, 2014, 07:10:01 PM
my first block forged  ;D ;D ;D ;D

whats your balance?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: yassin54 on July 03, 2014, 07:13:06 PM
my first block forged  ;D ;D ;D ;D

whats your balance?

200k


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: PL_CoinTrader on July 03, 2014, 07:18:30 PM
Sadly there is much selling pressure. People want to make quick profits.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Primitive on July 03, 2014, 07:22:23 PM
im surprised people are paying so much attention to the trading. 

hold, forge, spread the word.  the is a coin with genuine potential - not a crappy alt.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: nismhjt on July 03, 2014, 07:24:46 PM
im surprised people are paying so much attention to the trading. 

hold, forge, spread the word.  the is a coin with genuine potential - not a crappy alt.

if there is no trading, then how will new people come in?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: yassin54 on July 03, 2014, 07:25:19 PM
im surprised people are paying so much attention to the trading.  

hold, forge, spread the word.  the is a coin with genuine potential - not a crappy alt.

I never sell my stack
protection of the network is my priority  ;D ;D ;D
go go go forged


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Vega on July 03, 2014, 07:26:48 PM
Don't forget that most dgex users that are interested are already bought into IPO. No wonder there is no buying pressure there.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: yassin54 on July 03, 2014, 07:29:55 PM
Don't forget that most dgex users that are interested are already bought into IPO. No wonder there is no buying pressure there.

+1  :D


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Primitive on July 03, 2014, 07:33:47 PM

if there is no trading, then how will new people come in?

they will come. it just takes more than 24 hours lol.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Primitive on July 03, 2014, 07:41:26 PM
the rate at which I am forging does not seem consistent.

are there factors, apart than the number of clients that are online?

i don't have experience "forging" before FIM, so i'm wondering why it seems slow sometimes, and fast other times.

thanks gang!

go FIM


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: FimKrypto on July 03, 2014, 07:45:57 PM
the rate at which I am forging does not seem consistent.
are there factors, apart than the number of clients that are online?
i don't have experience "forging" before FIM, so i'm wondering why it seems slow sometimes, and fast other times.
thanks gang!
go FIM

The only factor is your stake compared to the amount of stake of all other forgers.
Whether you're on RasPi or a high end desktop makes no difference.

A working internet connection does affect your forging changes  ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Primitive on July 03, 2014, 07:49:14 PM

The only factor is your stake compared to the amount of stake of all other forgers.
Whether you're on RasPi or a high end desktop makes no difference.

A working internet connection does affect your forging changes  ;)

thanks!  but only online clients can be forging right?  so the size of the forging group changes?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: FimKrypto on July 03, 2014, 07:55:58 PM
The only factor is your stake compared to the amount of stake of all other forgers.
Whether you're on RasPi or a high end desktop makes no difference.
A working internet connection does affect your forging changes  ;)
thanks!  but only online clients can be forging right?  so the size of the forging group changes?

Yes. Only online clients forge.

It doesn't matter where you are 'logged in' and forging, you can be logged in on many clients at the same time even (which does not give you an advantage btw).
The group of forgers influences the global difficulty which is adjusted after each block.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Money1X2 on July 03, 2014, 08:26:34 PM
Saludos a todos.

No hablo ingles pero lo traducire con google traslate.

Por que no puedo forjar?

Greetings to all.

I do not speak English but translate with google traslate.

Why I can not build?            Intento forjar y dice:  Your effective balance is zero, you cannot forge.

Tengo:Balance:   69'199.8 FIM
Unconfirmed Balance:   69'199.8 FIM
Guaranteed Balance:   69'199.8 FIM
Effective Balance:   0 FIM


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: teletobi on July 03, 2014, 08:31:54 PM
Saludos a todos.

No hablo ingles pero lo traducire con google traslate.

Por que no puedo forjar?

Greetings to all.

I do not speak English but translate with google traslate.

Why I can not build?            Intento forjar y dice:  Your effective balance is zero, you cannot forge.

Tengo:Balance:   69'199.8 FIM
Unconfirmed Balance:   69'199.8 FIM
Guaranteed Balance:   69'199.8 FIM
Effective Balance:   0 FIM
You have to wait for 1440 (?) Confirmations, then you can forge.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Money1X2 on July 03, 2014, 08:37:30 PM
Muchas gracias amigo.

Thank you very much friend


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: megashira1 on July 03, 2014, 09:13:06 PM
aaaaand the easy money's all gone.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: nismhjt on July 03, 2014, 09:14:52 PM
aaaaand the easy money's all gone.


listing on dgex = digging your own grave


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: megashira1 on July 03, 2014, 09:17:02 PM
aaaaand the easy money's all gone.


listing on dgex = digging your own grave

? dgex generally fetches higher prices because it is only semi-liquid. The next buy support is 175.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: teletobi on July 03, 2014, 09:17:34 PM
I hoped they`ll connect the fimk IPO with the new Design...


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on July 03, 2014, 09:17:54 PM
aaaaand the easy money's all gone.
Looks like traders are only entering the REAL easy money phase that may persist until next week. FIMK hodlers are in it constantly by their nature.

Was it buy low, sell high? Who said it, I don't remember... ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: megashira1 on July 03, 2014, 09:20:07 PM
I hoped they`ll connect the fimk IPO with the new Design...

Do you know the exact date? Graviton mentioned sometime in July?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: casx on July 03, 2014, 09:22:04 PM
I hoped they`ll connect the fimk IPO with the new Design...

Do you know the exact date? Graviton mentioned sometime in July?

before 15th july i remember


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: megashira1 on July 03, 2014, 09:23:01 PM
aaaaand the easy money's all gone.
Looks like traders are only entering the REAL easy money phase that may persist until next week. FIMK hodlers are in it constantly by their nature.

Was it buy low, sell high? Who said it, I don't remember... ;)

It was buy IPO sell for as much as you can before someone else does. Nah just kiddin.

FIMK should be a success but taking some early profits and freerolling is never a bad idea.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: megashira1 on July 03, 2014, 09:23:34 PM
I hoped they`ll connect the fimk IPO with the new Design...

Do you know the exact date? Graviton mentioned sometime in July?

before 15th july i remember

dgex shares gonna go ^^


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: teletobi on July 03, 2014, 09:25:56 PM
I hoped they`ll connect the fimk IPO with the new Design...

Do you know the exact date? Graviton mentioned sometime in July?

before 15th july i remember

dgex shares gonna go ^^

hope so


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: nismhjt on July 03, 2014, 09:31:23 PM
I hoped they`ll connect the fimk IPO with the new Design...

Do you know the exact date? Graviton mentioned sometime in July?

before 15th july i remember

dgex shares gonna go ^^

what they really need to do is automatic deposits/withdrawal processing


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: megashira1 on July 03, 2014, 09:35:13 PM
I hoped they`ll connect the fimk IPO with the new Design...

Do you know the exact date? Graviton mentioned sometime in July?

before 15th july i remember

dgex shares gonna go ^^

what they really need to do is automatic deposits/withdrawal processing

Which Graviton has planned.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: teletobi on July 03, 2014, 09:48:18 PM
I hoped they`ll connect the fimk IPO with the new Design...

Do you know the exact date? Graviton mentioned sometime in July?

before 15th july i remember

dgex shares gonna go ^^

what they really need to do is automatic deposits/withdrawal processing

Which Graviton has planned.

Planned a lot, hope he`ll deliver soon.
But when all the "Plans" from the Newsletter are integrated, to the Mooooon

Back to Topic!


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Morganthemonk on July 03, 2014, 10:43:54 PM
Has anybody noticed difference (lag ?) between amount of confirmations that shows on resent transactions shown on dashboard and transactions pages ?
On dashboard it's like 20 confirmations and on transaction page it's already like 50 or what ever. Bet it's ok but I tought I would mention about it
Posted from Bitcointa.lk - #f8lVTMHE848CT500


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: juicyjuice87 on July 03, 2014, 10:46:31 PM
The anticipation!  Should be something special ha guys..?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Morganthemonk on July 03, 2014, 11:13:19 PM
Oh and if I star Forging when coming back to online it gives me this.

Confirm Forging Start

If you want to start forging, type your secret phrase to confirm.

Warning: Your secret phrase will be sent to the server!

SECRET PHRASE

Then I  press cancel and try again but this time there is no warning sight:
"Warning: Your secret phrase will be sent to the server!"
It's me just worrying about small things again but is that warning issue ok ?
Posted from Bitcointa.lk - #n2woGVkjXXW91g3D


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: FimKrypto on July 03, 2014, 11:38:33 PM
Oh and if I star Forging when coming back to online it gives me this.

Confirm Forging Start

If you want to start forging, type your secret phrase to confirm.

Warning: Your secret phrase will be sent to the server!

SECRET PHRASE

Then I  press cancel and try again but this time there is no warning sight:
"Warning: Your secret phrase will be sent to the server!"
It's me just worrying about small things again but is that warning issue ok ?
Posted from Bitcointa.lk - #n2woGVkjXXW91g3D

That warning is about using a FIM server that is not installed/running on your own computer.

People can run FIM on their server which you can then access, like the FIMKrypto organization does with https://wallet.fimk.fi:7886
But you should realize that you're sending your secret passphrase (the one that gives access to your account) to that other server.

The owner of that server could be collecting/intercepting your passphrases if you send it. Thats what the message is about.

Downloading FIM and running it yourself on your own computer does not expose your passphrase to anyone and is the recommended way.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: vonBerlichingen on July 03, 2014, 11:46:23 PM
How many of them you got fot 1 BTC?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: mellorbo on July 04, 2014, 01:05:06 AM
i thought FIMK was supposed to have 30s block times not 60s like it is at the moment


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: lovely89 on July 04, 2014, 03:35:30 AM
i thought FIMK was supposed to have 30s block times not 60s like it is at the moment

This has been answered.

Quote
The block time is an approximation and will vary. On the test net where we have run FIM for over a month while doing more than 2 million transactions the average block time was between 32 and 54 seconds, this varied per day.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Primitive on July 04, 2014, 04:30:58 AM
the blockchain explorer shows my balance a bit lower than my the balance in my wallet. the difference is either 400 or 600 FIM, depending on when i check.  so the different looks like 2 or 3 POS awards.

should i be concerned about this?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: FimKrypto on July 04, 2014, 05:14:55 AM
the blockchain explorer shows my balance a bit lower than my the balance in my wallet. the difference is either 400 or 600 FIM, depending on when i check.  so the different looks like 2 or 3 POS awards.
should i be concerned about this?

Yes we noticed.

You should not worry, it's just the blockexplorer scraper scripts that have a small error somewhere in the transaction/balance calculations.
This is not related to the FIM blockchain in any way.

Your balance in the client is your correct balance. We'll be working on fixing the blockexplorer scripts today.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Primitive on July 04, 2014, 05:16:08 AM

Yes we noticed.

You should not worry, it's just the blockexplorer scraper scripts that have a small error somewhere in the transaction/balance calculations.
This is not related to the FIM blockchain in any way.

Your balance in the client is your correct balance. We'll be working on fixing the blockexplorer scripts today.

Great.  Thanks much!


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: jamaer on July 04, 2014, 06:01:07 AM
We're still working on the blockexplorer so expect some downtime/reloads but it should be usable now..
Assets and aliases will be added later..

FIMK Blockexplorer http://80.240.143.139 (http://80.240.143.139/)

Block #2937 missing for some reason.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: illodin on July 04, 2014, 08:18:34 AM
Interesting to see the market getting established at Dgex.

BASELINE "FAIR" STARTING PRICE WOULD BE AROUND 530 BTC / 333,000,000 FIMK = 0.0000016 OR "5Z16".
.

After the first sellers make a windfall profit from the crazy-high initial enthusiasm bids at levels that can't be sustained long-term, there probably will be a crash back down to around this level.  Then the long, slow growth begins.  My prediction.

Lemme guess... you didn't donate (i.e. take a calculated risk that FIMK will deliver), and now want to buy at the same price with zero risk from those that took the risk?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: SyRenity on July 04, 2014, 08:19:52 AM
Just remembered that I've actually did buy a small stake directly, and got into the wallet on:
https://wallet.fimk.fi:7886/

The balance pops the following message:
Quote
Effective Balance:   0 FIM

I've already set up a nickname to account to enable the public key (for 0.1 FIM), any idea what else is missing?

Also, is it really safe to send the password seed to this hosted server for forging?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Morganthemonk on July 04, 2014, 09:30:06 AM
How many of them you got fot 1 BTC?


https://dgex.com/trading.cgi?acro=FIMK  Here is one market place that trades FIMK and its current value.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: HarriHirsch on July 04, 2014, 10:24:23 AM
I have a Problem with DGEX:

Yesterday I sent 80000 FIMK from my account to DGEX-Account and when I tried to enter the token I generated with the FIMK-Client DGEX always said that it is not a valid FIMK-Token. So I wrote them a mail concerning this issue and have heard nothing. The FIMK are also not in my deposit  >:(

Anyone else experienced this?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: FimKrypto on July 04, 2014, 11:04:53 AM
Fork Detected

There currently is one peer (from Germany according to whois) who is on block 3381 while all other peers on the network are on or close to block 4090.
We advise you to shutdown your FIMK server and delete the blockchain. The blockchain is the folder called "fim_db" (you can simply delete that folder and restart).

Please note that the blocks that peer is currently forging will be gone when the fork is resolved. Nothing can be done about that.


All forks are resolved.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: HarriHirsch on July 04, 2014, 11:16:52 AM
Fork Detected

There currently is one peer (from Germany according to whois) who is on block 3381 while all other peers on the network are on or close to block 4090.
We advise you to shutdown your FIMK server and delete the blockchain. The blockchain is the folder called "fim_db" (you can simply delete that folder and restart).

Please note that the blocks that peer is currently forging will be gone when the fork is resolved. Nothing can be done about that.

Mine is on block 4115, seems ok.

Do you have an ip?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on July 04, 2014, 11:21:30 AM
Just remembered that I've actually did buy a small stake directly, and got into the wallet on:
https://wallet.fimk.fi:7886/
The balance pops the following message:
Effective Balance:   0 FIM
I've already set up a nickname to account to enable the public key (for 0.1 FIM), any idea what else is missing?
Wait 1440 blocks from the nickname creation before you can start forging.

Also, is it really safe to send the password seed to this hosted server for forging?
It has considerable risks. We advise using the online wallet for only accounts that have small amounts on them.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: FimKrypto on July 04, 2014, 11:23:01 AM
We're still working on the blockexplorer so expect some downtime/reloads but it should be usable now..
Block #2937 missing for some reason.

We're working on the blockexplorer but decided to put this (half working) version online already since it does give a valuable insight in whats going on in the blockchain at the moment.
If in doubt please consult the FIM client which is always correct.

Just remembered that I've actually did buy a small stake directly, and got into the wallet on:
https://wallet.fimk.fi:7886/
The balance pops the following message:
Quote
Effective Balance:   0 FIM
I've already set up a nickname to account to enable the public key (for 0.1 FIM), any idea what else is missing?

When you donated through blockchain.info you had to put your FIM account in the public message. If you have that account number you can look it up in the blockexplorer no need for a passphrase for that.

I have a Problem with DGEX:
Yesterday I sent 80000 FIMK from my account to DGEX-Account and when I tried to enter the token I generated with the FIMK-Client DGEX always said that it is not a valid FIMK-Token. So I wrote them a mail concerning this issue and have heard nothing. The FIMK are also not in my deposit  >:(
Anyone else experienced this?

Please hold on I'm sure Graviton will get back to you soon.

Mine is on block 4115, seems ok.
Do you have an ip?

The current height 4118. The one on the fork is on 3381. IP 84.201.3*.1** (I'd rather not post someone's IP in this forum sorry).


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: jztxeno on July 04, 2014, 12:00:32 PM
I love the fast forging man ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: hyo on July 04, 2014, 12:04:01 PM
Hello

Can somebody help me to figure out what problem my linux desktop has with the local client?
When I double click run.sh - gedit opens with this :

java -cp fim.jar:lib/*:conf nxt.Nxt

I tried to install various versions of Java and used some terminal commands but nothing seems to work so far.

What could be the causes? A double click should be enough if i understand right. Do I need particular plug ins orl installations.
My OS runs Ubuntu  x64 and there is Java is 7 Open JDK and Iced Tea.
I remember I had the same issue with a NRS client before.

Nxt Offspring client is working perfectly.
It would be nice to have a Offpring variation for Fimk:)






Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: twistelaar on July 04, 2014, 12:13:42 PM
whats the current price for FIM and where does it traded?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: vonBerlichingen on July 04, 2014, 12:16:27 PM
How many of them you got fot 1 BTC?


https://dgex.com/trading.cgi?acro=FIMK  Here is one market place that trades FIMK and its current value.

I know.

But what was the stakeholder price?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: FimKrypto on July 04, 2014, 12:30:08 PM
Can somebody help me to figure out what problem my linux desktop has with the local client?
When I double click run.sh - gedit opens with this :

java -cp fim.jar:lib/*:conf nxt.Nxt

I tried to install various versions of Java and used some terminal commands but nothing seems to work so far.

What could be the causes? A double click should be enough if i understand right. Do I need particular plug ins orl installations.
My OS runs Ubuntu  x64 and there is Java is 7 Open JDK and Iced Tea.
I remember I had the same issue with a NRS client before.

Nxt Offspring client is working perfectly.
It would be nice to have a Offpring variation for Fimk:)

Somehow your desktop has assigned gedit as the default app to execute that file. Try doing it from the command line.

Code:
$ cd /home/USERNAME/fimfolder
$ java -cp fim.jar:lib/*:conf nxt.Nxt

Nxt Offspring client is working perfectly.
It would be nice to have a Offpring variation for Fimk:)

We agree and are looking into that.

whats the current price for FIM and where does it traded?

Trading is done at dgex last price is around 0.00000300

But what was the stakeholder price?

533 BTC was donated for 333 milion FIM which makes a stakeholder price of 0.00000150 (at least that's what was said on our other forum in the price thread http://forum.fimk.fi/index.php?topic=14.0)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: jztxeno on July 04, 2014, 12:34:51 PM
How is it so undervalued already :D


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: PL_CoinTrader on July 04, 2014, 12:41:14 PM
Price is really at the bottom, I mean there is almost no ROI for the investors. In this case I'm going to buy some more Fimk. :D


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: illodin on July 04, 2014, 12:43:06 PM
How is it so undervalued already :D

Because a lot of people these days participate in an IPO to just sell immediately for 2x or w/e profit. But that's fine, those people take the risk that it's a scam, and those who buy after the release have to pay premium (2x currently).


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Vega on July 04, 2014, 12:45:43 PM
Price is really at the bottom, I mean there is almost no ROI for the investors. In this case I'm going to buy some more Fimk. :D
It's really nice of them. Keep dumping please, I have nice buy orders at 0.000002. :)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Vega on July 04, 2014, 12:48:21 PM
How is it so undervalued already :D
Some people are happy with a quick 2-3x profit.  They are selling now.
Not sure many understand the economics of block rewards yet.  Great time to buy!
The funny thing is they won't make 2-3x profit. Volume was really low, no buy pressure, so price gone down to 0.000002 and below, while they payed 0.0000016 for it at IPO.

It looks like implication of the reward system really didn't sink in for some.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: apa on July 04, 2014, 12:53:17 PM
I have a Problem with DGEX:

Yesterday I sent 80000 FIMK from my account to DGEX-Account and when I tried to enter the token I generated with the FIMK-Client DGEX always said that it is not a valid FIMK-Token. So I wrote them a mail concerning this issue and have heard nothing. The FIMK are also not in my deposit  >:(

Anyone else experienced this?
Many people had the same problem. I tried to generate token several times after transfer. once it worked out and i transferred more fimks to dgex. the problem appeared with every transfer but always got finished deposits. I also tried to log out and log in but have no idea if it have any relevancy. try something like that. hope it works.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: topcoiner on July 04, 2014, 12:58:10 PM
FIMK looks really undervalued. I want to buy more at ~0.000002. Dump please! ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: xibeijan on July 04, 2014, 01:29:54 PM
I think some selling is good.  FIM is new and it's good for it to change hands and acquire new stakeholders.

FIM is much more fun than NXT because I'm mining/forging a fair amount of block rewards.  I'm holding long-term.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Vega on July 04, 2014, 01:35:33 PM
I think some selling is good.  FIM is new and it's good for it to change hands and acquire new stakeholders.

So far FIM has been much more fun than NXT b/c I'm mining/forging a fair amount of block rewards.  I'm holding long-term.

Agreed, if everyone holds, the coin is worthess. Distribution to new ppl is essential, but I don't think its going to happen on dgex. Mostly just existing shareholders increasing their stake, while others dumping.
This current price is because there are not many (if any) new buyers on dgex, so dumpers paniced and selling for lower then the starting price for FIM should be. Their loss, others gain.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Simakki on July 04, 2014, 01:53:54 PM
Yep, but dgex is just the first exchange not the last one. We will see some big news coming in next weeks, im pretty sure about that.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: qora dan on July 04, 2014, 01:57:39 PM
Trade volume is low at the moment and stakeholders are not offloading to make quick profits so it can only means that they believe there are big things in store for FIM as everyone is holding.

If you bought 250,000 FIM at  0.0000015 and the price goes anywhere near NXT current price you will make a profit of 23 BTC. GREAT!

In the mean time do trade but don't dump as you will regret it.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: casx on July 04, 2014, 02:35:22 PM
Trade volume is low at the moment and stakeholders are not offloading to make quick profits so it can only means that they believe there are big things in store for FIM as everyone is holding.

If you bought 250,000 FIM at  0.0000015 and the price goes anywhere near NXT current price you will make a profit of 23 BTC. GREAT!

In the mean time do trade but don't dump as you will regret it.

you seriously think we can hit 0.0001 before nxt doesnt go the same way higher?

would be hard for nxter.

you really think this is possible?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: qora dan on July 04, 2014, 02:45:05 PM
At the current dgex sell price FIM will debut on coin market capital at 26th place so yes it can go 0.0001 but don't expect it to be there tomorrow. Slow gradual rise is much better then volatility which is why nxt is such a good crypto.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: wiser on July 04, 2014, 04:14:24 PM
I see lots of people posting about how happy they are with the forging. I have been forging from the beginning and so far have not gotten a single block reward. My balance (now split over two forging accounts) amounts to over 30,000 FIM. Should I just consider this bad luck, or should I be looking for a problem? I understand the rewards are rather random so I'm not intending to complain that I'm not so lucky, but if there is a technical reason preventing me from getting block rewards, I'd like to resolve it. But I'm not sure what to be looking for. Both accounts say they are forging, and both have been on constantly (or close to it). I don't notice any error messages in the little java box on my computer either.

So... do I wait and hope to get lucky soon? Or do I trouble shoot?

Also, I did a small test of the first asset, and I notice that if you place a sell order and then cancel it, you're still out 0.1 FIM. Is that how it's supposed to be? Normally the trading fee wouldn't apply until the order actually executes. So... if I keep changing my mind about an order, I would pay  0.1 FIM each time I place a new order (even if it never fills)? Is that how it's set up? Is it too late to change it to where the fee only gets charged upon order execution? I would much prefer that.

EDIT: I really like the feature where it tells you if it's the asset issuer setting a sell order. I really LOVE that.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Vega on July 04, 2014, 04:24:05 PM
I see lots of people posting about how happy they are with the forging. I have been forging from the beginning and so far have not gotten a single block reward. My balance (now split over two forging accounts) amounts to over 30,000 FIM.
With 30k you will forge a block every 4 days on avarage.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: wiser on July 04, 2014, 04:27:57 PM
I see lots of people posting about how happy they are with the forging. I have been forging from the beginning and so far have not gotten a single block reward. My balance (now split over two forging accounts) amounts to over 30,000 FIM.
With 30k you will forge a block every 4 days on avarage.

Thanks for the feedback. Hopefully I'll at least be average then, and forge one soon. With the first one, it's not even so much about the block reward as it is about the knowledge that brings that everything is working as it should. I felt the same way about forging my first block with NXT.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Primitive on July 04, 2014, 04:28:41 PM
With 30k you will forge a block every 4 days on avarage.

What is the formula you are using to calculate this?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: dance on July 04, 2014, 04:46:23 PM
I see lots of people posting about how happy they are with the forging. I have been forging from the beginning and so far have not gotten a single block reward. My balance (now split over two forging accounts) amounts to over 30,000 FIM. Should I just consider this bad luck, or should I be looking for a problem?
Yes, for such amount and time spent forging it could be called [un]luck.

Also, I did a small test of the first asset, and I notice that if you place a sell order and then cancel it, you're still out 0.1 FIM. Is that how it's supposed to be? Normally the trading fee wouldn't apply until the order actually executes. So... if I keep changing my mind about an order, I would pay  0.1 FIM each time I place a new order (even if it never fills)? Is that how it's set up? Is it too late to change it to where the fee only gets charged upon order execution? I would much prefer that.
Every operation is proceeded through the blockchain, so you need to pay fee to avoid spam actions.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Vega on July 04, 2014, 04:57:09 PM
With 30k you will forge a block every 4 days on avarage.

What is the formula you are using to calculate this?

It was a WAG actually, but looks accurate. (with 100% base target)

333000000 / 2880 = 115625 (all available coins / blocks per day)
(30000 * 1) / 115625 = 0,259 (your coins * block target = how many block per day)

This is not accurate, because numbers are changing. Coin supply increasing, in reallity there is less then 2880 blocks per day, and the base target depends on how many coins are forging any given moment.

If you want to know more:
http://www.thenxtwiki.org/wiki/FAQ#Forging


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Primitive on July 04, 2014, 05:47:28 PM

Yes we noticed.

You should not worry, it's just the blockexplorer scraper scripts that have a small error somewhere in the transaction/balance calculations.
This is not related to the FIM blockchain in any way.

Your balance in the client is your correct balance. We'll be working on fixing the blockexplorer scripts today.

Great.  Thanks much!

Hi guys.  Just to let you know, my wallet is now showing off by ~1200 FIM (6 POW).  the Blockchain error is slowly increasing over time.

just in case this info helps you troubleshoot.

i really like the client - works great


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: FimKrypto on July 04, 2014, 05:59:09 PM
Yes we noticed.
You should not worry, it's just the blockexplorer scraper scripts that have a small error somewhere in the transaction/balance calculations.
This is not related to the FIM blockchain in any way.
Your balance in the client is your correct balance. We'll be working on fixing the blockexplorer scripts today.

Great.  Thanks much!

Hi guys.  Just to let you know, my wallet is now showing off by ~1200 FIM (6 POW).  the Blockchain error is slowly increasing over time.

just in case this info helps you troubleshoot.

i really like the client - works great

Please don't mind the block explorer we're working on that (actually more trying to make time to work on it). But be assured the block explorer is nothing more than some scripts who fill a database of block data. The high number of forgers and blocks being added and removed is confusing it right now.

Edit: it's block explorer of course


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: nismhjt on July 04, 2014, 06:45:48 PM
not yet on coinmarketcap


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: jztxeno on July 04, 2014, 06:52:59 PM
not yet on coinmarketcap

give it some time, the coin just came out mate.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on July 04, 2014, 06:58:53 PM
not yet on coinmarketcap

What's the best way to add?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: smaragda on July 04, 2014, 07:09:10 PM
not yet on coinmarketcap

What's the best way to add?

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1IZf5cBivam_93zENT_arFFuvWDidHGjWxoTMVmFSoWg/viewform


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Simakki on July 04, 2014, 07:16:02 PM
not yet on coinmarketcap

What's the best way to add?

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1IZf5cBivam_93zENT_arFFuvWDidHGjWxoTMVmFSoWg/viewform

Could it be good to get more exchanges involved before listing in cmc?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Primitive on July 04, 2014, 07:17:32 PM
I think patience will serve us well.   We should be listed eventually but should not rush.  This coin us just days old.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on July 04, 2014, 07:25:55 PM
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1IZf5cBivam_93zENT_arFFuvWDidHGjWxoTMVmFSoWg/viewform

Thanks.

Yep we're not rushing it. Some time next week.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Malooka on July 04, 2014, 07:31:11 PM
"secretPhrase" not specified

Trying to transfer to DGEX and can't due to the error above.

The downloadable wallet seems like a real pain just to install.

Thanks DGEX - I can always count on you when I need a difficult time.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: nismhjt on July 04, 2014, 08:08:16 PM
not yet on coinmarketcap

What's the best way to add?

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1IZf5cBivam_93zENT_arFFuvWDidHGjWxoTMVmFSoWg/viewform

Could it be good to get more exchanges involved before listing in cmc?

yes more exchanges. Poloniex and BTER


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on July 04, 2014, 08:09:34 PM
"secretPhrase" not specified

Trying to transfer to DGEX and can't due to the error above.

Try this https://wallet.fimk.fi:7886/admin.html


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: nismhjt on July 04, 2014, 08:09:51 PM
"secretPhrase" not specified

Trying to transfer to DGEX and can't due to the error above.

The downloadable wallet seems like a real pain just to install.

Thanks DGEX - I can always count on you when I need a difficult time.


oh yes!!!


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: hyo on July 04, 2014, 08:34:59 PM
When I double click run.sh - gedit opens with this :

java -cp fim.jar:lib/*:conf nxt.Nxt

Somehow your desktop has assigned gedit as the default app to execute that file. Try doing it from the command line.

Code:
$ cd /home/USERNAME/fimfolder
$ java -cp fim.jar:lib/*:conf nxt.Nxt

-----------------

Tueueesen Takk!!!

Works easy

Smoerre Broe !!

Jeg ikke snakke Fimmik

joet omkring



Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: casx on July 05, 2014, 11:39:51 AM
next marketing steps?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: hazubai on July 05, 2014, 11:53:14 AM
next marketing steps?

A good exchange, because dgex is a piece of shit


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Simakki on July 05, 2014, 12:09:16 PM
next marketing steps?

A good exchange, because dgex is a piece of shit

That would be a good move  ;D
I bet that avarage joes would never use site like that to invest their earnings.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: teletobi on July 05, 2014, 12:32:58 PM
So good Times to buy now...


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: jztxeno on July 05, 2014, 12:53:27 PM
So good Times to buy now...

True words ;) The big innovations are coming at a later point hopefully ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: highscore on July 05, 2014, 02:42:07 PM
So good Times to buy now...

True words ;) The big innovations are coming at a later point hopefully ;)
What innovations do you mean?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: nismhjt on July 05, 2014, 04:20:44 PM
next marketing steps?

A good exchange, because dgex is a piece of shit

exactly, my point


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: FimKrypto on July 05, 2014, 04:32:25 PM
FIM Version 0.2.2 Released

We have released FIM 0.2.2 which consists of some minor fixes related to unclear wording and some bigger improvements to client.

  • Users are notified automatically when a new version is available
  • Users can download the new version from within the client
  • Downloaded versions can be verified to be genuine from within the client
  • Account aliases can be used with both numeric and RS accounts (the ones starting with FIM)
  • Forging countdown indicator and forging refresh functionality added to the client

There was some confusion if the client was forging correctly. We have added a countdown that counts down to the moment you are expected to forge the next block.
This time is an average, it is possible (and will likely happen many times) that when the countdown reaches zero you dont't actually get to forge the block. What is sure is that the chance to forge a block when the countdown has not reached zero is very small.

The so-called deadline (the time until you forge the next block) changes every block. You can refresh the deadline (ask the deadline from the FIM server) by clicking the button next to the count down indictor.

Download: https://github.com/fimkrypto/fimk/releases/download/v0.2.2/fim-0.2.2.zip (https://github.com/fimkrypto/fimk/releases/download/v0.2.2/fim-0.2.2.zip)

Release announcement thread on http://forum.fimk.fi (http://forum.fimk.fi/index.php?topic=64.msg347;topicseen#msg347)
Source code for this release (https://github.com/fimkrypto/fimk)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: jztxeno on July 05, 2014, 04:37:57 PM
FIM Version 0.2.2 Released

We have released FIM 0.2.2 which consists of some minor fixes related to unclear wording and some bigger improvements to client.

  • Users are notified automatically when a new version is available
  • Users can download the new version from within the client
  • Downloaded versions can be verified to be genuine from within the client
  • Account aliases can be used with both numeric and RS accounts (the ones starting with FIM)
  • Forging countdown indicator and forging refresh functionality added to the client

There was some confusion if the client was forging correctly. We have added a countdown that counts down to the moment you are expected to forge the next block.
This time is an average, it is possible (and will likely happen many times) that when the countdown reaches zero you dont't actually get to forge the block. What is sure is that the chance to forge a block when the countdown has not reached zero is very small.

The so-called deadline (the time until you forge the next block) changes every block. You can refresh the deadline (ask the deadline from the FIM server) by clicking the button next to the count down indictor.

Download: https://github.com/fimkrypto/fimk/releases/download/v0.2.2/fim-0.2.2.zip (https://github.com/fimkrypto/fimk/releases/download/v0.2.2/fim-0.2.2.zip)

Release announcement thread on http://forum.fimk.fi (http://forum.fimk.fi/index.php?topic=64.msg347;topicseen#msg347)
Source code for this release (https://github.com/fimkrypto/fimk)

^love it, keep going with the good work.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Primitive on July 05, 2014, 04:48:02 PM
0.2.2 installed and working well.  the forging timer is nice.

(FIM blockchain explorer still out of sync with wallet - but really good otherwise)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Vega on July 05, 2014, 04:55:47 PM
FIM Version 0.2.2 Released

We have released FIM 0.2.2 which consists of some minor fixes related to unclear wording and some bigger improvements to client.
"Your secret phrase will be sent to the FIM server!"
You should rephrase this, because it gives an impression that it will send the passphrase to a remote server. It could cause confusion.

How about: "You have to provide your secret phrase to refresh!"


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: qtgwith on July 05, 2014, 04:59:52 PM
FIM Version 0.2.2 Released

We have released FIM 0.2.2 which consists of some minor fixes related to unclear wording and some bigger improvements to client.
"Your secret phrase will be sent to the FIM server!"
You should rephrase this, because it gives an impression that it will send the passphrase to a remote server. It could cause confusion.

How about: "You have to provide your secret phrase to refresh!"

You'd better use FIM wallet client rather than the web wallet.It's more safe.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Vega on July 05, 2014, 05:02:31 PM
What is sure is that the chance to forge a block when the countdown has not reached zero is very small.

If the deadline is not refreshed after every block, and base target gets bigger than since last refresh, then the chance to forge before countdown reaching zero is pretty big.
I could be wrong of course, but clarification would be welcome eather way.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Vega on July 05, 2014, 05:03:53 PM
You'd better use FIM wallet client rather than the web wallet.It's more safe.
That's what I'm saying. The sentence is confusing for ppl that are using local nodes, not a remote server.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: wiser on July 05, 2014, 05:21:01 PM
When I tried to update to the new version, I got this error message:

The downloaded version hash does not compare to the specified hash in the blockchain. DO NOT PROCEED.

What do I do now?

EDIT: I ended up extracting and running the client the "old fashioned way" and it works fine now. So now this is an FYI, there was a glitch with the feature where we get to update from within the client itself. Thanks :)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: funbug on July 05, 2014, 05:26:50 PM
When I tried to update to the new version, I got this error message:

The downloaded version hash does not compare to the specified hash in the blockchain. DO NOT PROCEED.

What do I do now?

Delete fim_db catalog and restart program


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: FimKrypto on July 05, 2014, 05:32:18 PM
FIM blockchain explorer still out of sync with wallet - but really good otherwise

Expect the coming update to be a properly functioning blockexplorer. It sucks we know, sorry.

"Your secret phrase will be sent to the FIM server!"
You should rephrase this, because it gives an impression that it will send the passphrase to a remote server. It could cause confusion.
How about: "You have to provide your secret phrase to refresh!"

Good one! That's absolutely better than what we have now. I'll update it in a coming release. Thanks!

What is sure is that the chance to forge a block when the countdown has not reached zero is very small.
If the deadline is not refreshed after every block, and base target gets bigger than since last refresh, then the chance to forge before countdown reaching zero is pretty big.
I could be wrong of course, but clarification would be welcome eather way.

The easiest way would be to update the countdown on each block (a drawback would be that the time to forge will jump around constantly).
But since you need to send your secretPhrase along with the request for the deadline, making that automatic (without the users expressed consent) has the risk of a user on a public node sending his passphrase once. Then realizing he/she doesn't want/trust that and the client will continue doing so.

This is a first basic implementation of the forger countdown, I can imagine a next release to show the current behavior only when you are on a public node.

If in doubt you can always refresh the countdown, that's why we put it there since we expected some confusion on this subject.

When I tried to update to the new version, I got this error message:
The downloaded version hash does not compare to the specified hash in the blockchain. DO NOT PROCEED.

 :-[ that's not supposed to happen.
What OS are you using?

What do I do now?

If you go here http://onlinemd5.com/ you can enter the SHA256 checksum mentioned in the release announcement https://github.com/fimkrypto/fimk/releases/tag/v0.2.2 and if you check the downloaded fim-0.2.2.zip against the SHA256 in the release announcement you'll see that it does match. Sorry for the incovenience.

When I tried to update to the new version, I got this error message:
The downloaded version hash does not compare to the specified hash in the blockchain. DO NOT PROCEED.
What do I do now?
Delete fim_db catalog and restart program

Did that work for you? Not sure if that has any effect.





Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: itsmefred on July 05, 2014, 05:41:09 PM
I love it! ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: wiser on July 05, 2014, 05:44:49 PM
When I tried to update to the new version, I got this error message:
The downloaded version hash does not compare to the specified hash in the blockchain. DO NOT PROCEED.
What do I do now?
Delete fim_db catalog and restart program

Did that work for you? Not sure if that has any effect.

I actually just installed the client the same way I installed the original one, and that worked fine. It redownloaded the block chain. New client seems to be working fine now.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: FimKrypto on July 05, 2014, 06:10:06 PM
There is a dedicated FIM 0.2.2 Release thread on our forum http://forum.fimk.fi/index.php?topic=64.0.
If you run into any issues with the 0.2.2 release it is very much appreciated if people (also) used that thread to post any findings.

Thank you.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Vega on July 05, 2014, 06:11:34 PM
The easiest way would be to update the countdown on each block (a drawback would be that the time to forge will jump around constantly).
But since you need to send your secretPhrase along with the request for the deadline, making that automatic (without the users expressed consent) has the risk of a user on a public node sending his passphrase once. Then realizing he/she doesn't want/trust that and the client will continue doing so.

This is a first basic implementation of the forger countdown, I can imagine a next release to show the current behavior only when you are on a public node.

Honestly, I understand why do you display the countdown, but from experience with Nxt I think it just confuses newbees.
How about instead of calling getForging you just make the calculations on the client side.
Instead of a countdown you could just display the avarage forging time based on balance, coin supply, and last base target. It could be updated with every block.

"You will forge a block an avarage of x weeks/days/hours", is good information, and less confusing than the countdown that jumps around and in no way accurate.
Or if you love the countdown you could check last forged block time, make the above calculation in client, and create a countdown. This way there is no need for passhrase.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: casx on July 05, 2014, 06:18:18 PM
... seriously...

its just a matter of time will fimk will hit the moon...
the block reward... is so fucking awesome.

this ... is ... proof of stake!


fimk did it 30 times better than nxt.
you can sit down and look at your growing stake.


just amazing.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: smaragda on July 05, 2014, 06:49:23 PM
the block reward... is so fucking awesome.

+1   ...the yearly 10% interest (paid daily*) that NHZ is doing is AWESOME too...


*It reads all balances b, and pays out (b*0.1)/365 NHZ every day.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: casx on July 05, 2014, 07:05:25 PM
the block reward... is so fucking awesome.

+1   ...the yearly 10% interest (paid daily*) that NHZ is doing is AWESOME too...


*It reads all balances b, and pays out (b*0.1)/365 NHZ every day.

don´t get this point..

can you explain it?

what does nhz mean?

how will this look like?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: smaragda on July 05, 2014, 07:11:20 PM
what does nhz mean?

Please go read their thread... (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=551666.msg6002767#msg6002767)  it's NOT appropriate to discuss NHZ further in the FIMK thread.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: casx on July 05, 2014, 07:19:14 PM
what does nhz mean?

Please go read their thread... (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=551666.msg6002767#msg6002767)  it's NOT appropriate to discuss NHZ further in the FIMK thread.

sorry i didnt get that this is a other currency...


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: smaragda on July 05, 2014, 07:21:28 PM
sorry i didnt get that this is a other currency...

No need to apologize, brotha/sista!   ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Money1X2 on July 05, 2014, 07:34:03 PM
Hi there.

If I have 161 530 FIM

How long does it take to build a block?

  if the latter did 04/07/2014 20:43:28  Block 4651

All day and forging anything.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: onlinepro on July 05, 2014, 07:40:35 PM
Hi there.

If I have 161 530 FIM

How long does it take to build a block?

  if the latter did 04/07/2014 20:43:28  Block 4651

All day and forging anything.

Approximately about every 17,5 hours if I calculated right.
I have only 10k so I don't forge, it would take so long...  :-\


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: yassin54 on July 05, 2014, 07:47:39 PM
Hi there.

If I have 161 530 FIM

How long does it take to build a block?

  if the latter did 04/07/2014 20:43:28  Block 4651

All day and forging anything.

i dont know
i have 200k
i have forge 5 block for 2 days 24/24h


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: noashh on July 05, 2014, 08:05:13 PM
FIM Version 0.2.2 Released

We have released FIM 0.2.2 which consists of some minor fixes related to unclear wording and some bigger improvements to client.

  • Users are notified automatically when a new version is available
  • Users can download the new version from within the client
  • Downloaded versions can be verified to be genuine from within the client
  • Account aliases can be used with both numeric and RS accounts (the ones starting with FIM)
  • Forging countdown indicator and forging refresh functionality added to the client

There was some confusion if the client was forging correctly. We have added a countdown that counts down to the moment you are expected to forge the next block.
This time is an average, it is possible (and will likely happen many times) that when the countdown reaches zero you dont't actually get to forge the block. What is sure is that the chance to forge a block when the countdown has not reached zero is very small.

The so-called deadline (the time until you forge the next block) changes every block. You can refresh the deadline (ask the deadline from the FIM server) by clicking the button next to the count down indictor.

Download: https://github.com/fimkrypto/fimk/releases/download/v0.2.2/fim-0.2.2.zip (https://github.com/fimkrypto/fimk/releases/download/v0.2.2/fim-0.2.2.zip)

Release announcement thread on http://forum.fimk.fi (http://forum.fimk.fi/index.php?topic=64.msg347;topicseen#msg347)
Source code for this release (https://github.com/fimkrypto/fimk)

Could you sign your releases like Jean-Luc does? https://nxtforum.org/nrs-releases/nrs-v1-1-6/
And the hashes too, thank you.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: rommaz on July 06, 2014, 06:35:35 AM
FIM Version 0.2.2 Released

We have released FIM 0.2.2 which consists of some minor fixes related to unclear wording and some bigger improvements to client.

  • Users are notified automatically when a new version is available
  • Users can download the new version from within the client
  • Downloaded versions can be verified to be genuine from within the client
  • Account aliases can be used with both numeric and RS accounts (the ones starting with FIM)
  • Forging countdown indicator and forging refresh functionality added to the client

There was some confusion if the client was forging correctly. We have added a countdown that counts down to the moment you are expected to forge the next block.
This time is an average, it is possible (and will likely happen many times) that when the countdown reaches zero you dont't actually get to forge the block. What is sure is that the chance to forge a block when the countdown has not reached zero is very small.

The so-called deadline (the time until you forge the next block) changes every block. You can refresh the deadline (ask the deadline from the FIM server) by clicking the button next to the count down indictor.

Download: https://github.com/fimkrypto/fimk/releases/download/v0.2.2/fim-0.2.2.zip (https://github.com/fimkrypto/fimk/releases/download/v0.2.2/fim-0.2.2.zip)

Release announcement thread on http://forum.fimk.fi (http://forum.fimk.fi/index.php?topic=64.msg347;topicseen#msg347)
Source code for this release (https://github.com/fimkrypto/fimk)

Why there is no new version at official site?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: mightname on July 06, 2014, 07:50:11 AM
FIM Version 0.2.2 Released

We have released FIM 0.2.2 which consists of some minor fixes related to unclear wording and some bigger improvements to client.

  • Users are notified automatically when a new version is available
  • Users can download the new version from within the client
  • Downloaded versions can be verified to be genuine from within the client
  • Account aliases can be used with both numeric and RS accounts (the ones starting with FIM)
  • Forging countdown indicator and forging refresh functionality added to the client

There was some confusion if the client was forging correctly. We have added a countdown that counts down to the moment you are expected to forge the next block.
This time is an average, it is possible (and will likely happen many times) that when the countdown reaches zero you dont't actually get to forge the block. What is sure is that the chance to forge a block when the countdown has not reached zero is very small.

The so-called deadline (the time until you forge the next block) changes every block. You can refresh the deadline (ask the deadline from the FIM server) by clicking the button next to the count down indictor.

Download: https://github.com/fimkrypto/fimk/releases/download/v0.2.2/fim-0.2.2.zip (https://github.com/fimkrypto/fimk/releases/download/v0.2.2/fim-0.2.2.zip)

Release announcement thread on http://forum.fimk.fi (http://forum.fimk.fi/index.php?topic=64.msg347;topicseen#msg347)
Source code for this release (https://github.com/fimkrypto/fimk)

Why there is no new version at official site?

http://forum.fimk.fi/index.php?board=3.0


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: funbug on July 06, 2014, 10:46:55 AM
Please vote for add FIMK to trading bter.com

https://bter.com/voting


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: xibeijan on July 06, 2014, 02:06:40 PM
Please vote for add FIMK to trading bter.com

https://bter.com/voting

+1


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: noashh on July 06, 2014, 02:07:55 PM
Please vote for add FIMK to trading bter.com

https://bter.com/voting

Direct link: https://bter.com/voting#FIMK


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: xibeijan on July 06, 2014, 02:08:11 PM
FIM Version 0.2.2 Released

We have released FIM 0.2.2 which consists of some minor fixes related to unclear wording and some bigger improvements to client.

  • Users are notified automatically when a new version is available
  • Users can download the new version from within the client
  • Downloaded versions can be verified to be genuine from within the client
  • Account aliases can be used with both numeric and RS accounts (the ones starting with FIM)
  • Forging countdown indicator and forging refresh functionality added to the client

There was some confusion if the client was forging correctly. We have added a countdown that counts down to the moment you are expected to forge the next block.
This time is an average, it is possible (and will likely happen many times) that when the countdown reaches zero you dont't actually get to forge the block. What is sure is that the chance to forge a block when the countdown has not reached zero is very small.

The so-called deadline (the time until you forge the next block) changes every block. You can refresh the deadline (ask the deadline from the FIM server) by clicking the button next to the count down indictor.

Download: https://github.com/fimkrypto/fimk/releases/download/v0.2.2/fim-0.2.2.zip (https://github.com/fimkrypto/fimk/releases/download/v0.2.2/fim-0.2.2.zip)

Release announcement thread on http://forum.fimk.fi (http://forum.fimk.fi/index.php?topic=64.msg347;topicseen#msg347)
Source code for this release (https://github.com/fimkrypto/fimk)

Nice work!  Keep it up!  Mining/forging FIM is awesome!  I have a feeling FIM is going to be called "NXT done right" soon.

When are stop-loss and limit orders being added to the AE?  Is FIMK consortium adding an altcoin gateway for trading altcoins using the FIM AE?

Also when is one click installable wallet for OSX and Windows going to be ready?

Also we need a FIMK multipool, so we have an alternate way to mine FIMK and give its price further support.

Just some roadmap ideas...


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: qtgwith on July 06, 2014, 02:21:14 PM

The FIMK Block explorer is very very cool,with dynamic latest transactions list similar to the Blockchain.info.


http://i.imgur.com/0v5MNWO.png


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: xibeijan on July 06, 2014, 02:24:11 PM

The FIMK Block explorer is very very cool,dynamic latest transactions list similar to the Blockchain.info.

Got link to working block explorer?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: nismhjt on July 06, 2014, 05:40:56 PM
hi all, please mail bter to add FIMK to the voting list


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: funbug on July 06, 2014, 05:42:22 PM
hi all, please mail bter to add FIMK to the voting list



Direct link: https://bter.com/voting#FIMK


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: nismhjt on July 06, 2014, 05:59:16 PM
hi all, please mail bter to add FIMK to the voting list



Direct link: https://bter.com/voting#FIMK


how do I get BTR points. I traded around 200 BTCs in June, but no BTR in my balance


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: redsquare on July 06, 2014, 06:01:22 PM

The FIMK Block explorer is very very cool,dynamic latest transactions list similar to the Blockchain.info.

Got link to working block explorer?

It's at: http://80.240.143.139/

Only basic functionality, and it contains bugs still .. (for me the POS block reward balance is behind by 2 blocks, although the most recent blocks appear OK), they said they are working on it.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: mellorbo on July 06, 2014, 06:25:30 PM
hi all, please mail bter to add FIMK to the voting list



Direct link: https://bter.com/voting#FIMK


how do I get BTR points. I traded around 200 BTCs in June, but no BTR in my balance
if you withdraw you loose stupid amounts of bter points so if you did withdraw chances are you had them all taken off you by bter


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: tigomjir on July 06, 2014, 09:26:59 PM
hi all, please mail bter to add FIMK to the voting list



Direct link: https://bter.com/voting#FIMK


how do I get BTR points. I traded around 200 BTCs in June, but no BTR in my balance
if you withdraw you loose stupid amounts of bter points so if you did withdraw chances are you had them all taken off you by bter

lets all vote on BTER to take FIMK out of dgex shit


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: vonBerlichingen on July 06, 2014, 09:40:38 PM
No shit. Just a little bit old school.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: FimKrypto on July 06, 2014, 10:03:25 PM
FIM Version 0.2.2 Released

We have released FIM 0.2.2 which consists of some minor fixes related to unclear wording and some bigger improvements to client.

  • Users are notified automatically when a new version is available
  • Users can download the new version from within the client
  • Downloaded versions can be verified to be genuine from within the client
  • Account aliases can be used with both numeric and RS accounts (the ones starting with FIM)
  • Forging countdown indicator and forging refresh functionality added to the client

There was some confusion if the client was forging correctly. We have added a countdown that counts down to the moment you are expected to forge the next block.
This time is an average, it is possible (and will likely happen many times) that when the countdown reaches zero you dont't actually get to forge the block. What is sure is that the chance to forge a block when the countdown has not reached zero is very small.

The so-called deadline (the time until you forge the next block) changes every block. You can refresh the deadline (ask the deadline from the FIM server) by clicking the button next to the count down indictor.

Download: https://github.com/fimkrypto/fimk/releases/download/v0.2.2/fim-0.2.2.zip (https://github.com/fimkrypto/fimk/releases/download/v0.2.2/fim-0.2.2.zip)

Release announcement thread on http://forum.fimk.fi (http://forum.fimk.fi/index.php?topic=64.msg347;topicseen#msg347)
Source code for this release (https://github.com/fimkrypto/fimk)

Could you sign your releases like Jean-Luc does? https://nxtforum.org/nrs-releases/nrs-v1-1-6/
And the hashes too, thank you.

Please have a look in the Release announcement thread on http://forum.fimk.fi (http://forum.fimk.fi/index.php?topic=64.msg347;topicseen#msg347) and you'll see that we have always signed our releases and include both SHA256 and MD5 hashes for all downloads.

There are two places where we publish these signed release announcements.

1. https://github.com/fimkrypto/fimk/releases
2. Each release gets it's own topic in the FIMK Client discussion section http://forum.fimk.fi/index.php?board=3.0


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: mellorbo on July 06, 2014, 11:13:25 PM
is it me or does dgex just plain and simple suck dick. over 24 hour and my fimk withdrawal has not been sent out or refunded and support is as much use as a chocolate fire guard.

we need another exchange asap lol


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: gvans on July 07, 2014, 12:38:38 AM
@tigomjir, feel free to provide us a better exchange


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: mellorbo on July 07, 2014, 01:26:23 AM
is it me or does dgex just plain and simple suck dick. over 24 hour and my fimk withdrawal has not been sent out or refunded and support is as much use as a chocolate fire guard.

we need another exchange asap lol

Graviton, the superb dick, believes he is in control of everything. So he doesn't want to automate the deposit/withdrawal process. He boasts dgex has low trading fee but he charges mothafucka withdrawal fee. And he is too busy fucking his mother in the weekend that he doesn't want to confirm deposit/withdrawal over the weekend

haha sounds about right it cost me fucking just under 500 fimk to withdraw 51000 fimk i call that day light robbery and still dont have them yet and its been nearly 48 hour now so when it states 3-24 hour its a lie over weekend lmao what a joke if he takes piss like that then he should refund the fee imho. or is he saving up to buy his mum some nice clothes to pimp her out haha


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: mightname on July 07, 2014, 01:40:01 AM
hi all, please mail bter to add FIMK to the voting list



Direct link: https://bter.com/voting#FIMK


Let's vote FIMK in bter

https://bter.com/voting


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: mellorbo on July 07, 2014, 01:58:10 AM
hi all, please mail bter to add FIMK to the voting list



Direct link: https://bter.com/voting#FIMK


Let's vote FIMK in bter

https://bter.com/voting
if i could i would. i just dont have any bter points to vote nor do i have enough expendable btc to trade to earn bter points. if there is any other exchange i can vote on i will gladly help there


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: mightname on July 07, 2014, 02:03:50 AM

The FIMK Block explorer is very very cool,with dynamic latest transactions list similar to the Blockchain.info.


http://i.imgur.com/0v5MNWO.png

really cool! 8)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on July 07, 2014, 03:54:55 AM
http://explorer.fimk.fi is the direct webhop for block explorer, it's alpha but useful if you don't trust the numbers too much ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: BitTom on July 07, 2014, 07:00:08 AM
I have a Problem with DGEX:

Yesterday I sent 80000 FIMK from my account to DGEX-Account and when I tried to enter the token I generated with the FIMK-Client DGEX always said that it is not a valid FIMK-Token. So I wrote them a mail concerning this issue and have heard nothing. The FIMK are also not in my deposit  >:(

Anyone else experienced this?
Many people had the same problem. I tried to generate token several times after transfer. once it worked out and i transferred more fimks to dgex. the problem appeared with every transfer but always got finished deposits. I also tried to log out and log in but have no idea if it have any relevancy. try something like that. hope it works.

me too, how to solve it?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on July 07, 2014, 07:53:23 AM
Many people had the same problem. I tried to generate token several times after transfer. once it worked out and i transferred more fimks to dgex. the problem appeared with every transfer but always got finished deposits. I also tried to log out and log in but have no idea if it have any relevancy. try something like that. hope it works.

me too, how to solve it?
Just best to try to create the token again until it works. If the FIMK daemon on a merchant server is offline, which happens sometimes especially in the early phases of the network, things like the token check don't work.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: BlackFor3st on July 07, 2014, 08:02:38 AM
A big Exchange like bter would involve a risk.
Of course in the future it will be neccessary, but not now.
FIM is new and not stable yet. I think it would start a big pump&dump-action with a BTER-Listing. So please wait with that.

I think the most users, who writes constantly about that BTER-Voting are not very interested in use FIM as a long term investment.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: funbug on July 07, 2014, 08:30:29 AM
I have a Problem with DGEX:

Yesterday I sent 80000 FIMK from my account to DGEX-Account and when I tried to enter the token I generated with the FIMK-Client DGEX always said that it is not a valid FIMK-Token. So I wrote them a mail concerning this issue and have heard nothing. The FIMK are also not in my deposit  >:(

Anyone else experienced this?
Many people had the same problem. I tried to generate token several times after transfer. once it worked out and i transferred more fimks to dgex. the problem appeared with every transfer but always got finished deposits. I also tried to log out and log in but have no idea if it have any relevancy. try something like that. hope it works.

me too, how to solve it?

127.0.0.1:7886/test

or

127.0.0.1:7885/admin.html

generate Token:

website: dgex.com no http or https


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: hazubai on July 07, 2014, 08:42:54 AM
A big Exchange like bter would involve a risk.
Of course in the future it will be neccessary, but not now.
FIM is new and not stable yet. I think it would start a big pump&dump-action with a BTER-Listing. So please wait with that.

I think the most users, who writes constantly about that BTER-Voting are not very interested in use FIM as a long term investment.

you're definitely a stakeholder of dgex. ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on July 07, 2014, 08:43:35 AM
A big Exchange like bter would involve a risk.
Of course in the future it will be neccessary, but not now.
FIM is new and not stable yet. I think it would start a big pump&dump-action with a BTER-Listing. So please wait with that.

I totally agree. FIMK received an incredibly even distribution and modest stable release rate at just 200% to 400% donations value without excessive dumping hazards. These exceptional circumstances enable us to build a strong and stable market base for widespread commercial utilization even more effectively than planned.

Don't you fancy that line, it would fit perfectly the repertoire of any skilled finance minister!


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: dance on July 07, 2014, 10:04:29 AM
127.0.0.1:7885/admin.html

generate Token:

website: dgex.com no http or https
It is ok with http:\\


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Money1X2 on July 07, 2014, 10:05:45 AM
Hola Soy novato, de Marbella, España, es la primera vez que estoy forjando.  Me gusta FIMKrypto ;D

Algo estoy haciendo mal seguro, ya que no es normal que cerca de 48 horas forjando y no ne conseguido ningún bloque. >:(

Os subo una imagen, también tengo que decir que no he generado ningún token, ya que no se. Es debido al Token?

Ayuda por favor o lamentablemente dejaré de forjar.  

Empece muy bien hice tres bloque pero se paró, llevo dos dias y nada de nada.

Gracias.........................

Hello I'm newbie, Marbella, Spain, is the first time I am forging. I like FIMKrypto; D

Something I'm doing wrong insurance because it is not normal about 48 hours and no ne forging earned any block. > (

I upload an image, I have to also say that I have not generated any token, since no. It is due to Token?

Help us or leave forging unfortunately.

I started very well but I did three block stopped, take two days and nothing.

Thank you

http://i.imgur.com/vb2eJVr.png

http://i.imgur.com/BlVyPA0.png


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: dance on July 07, 2014, 10:15:36 AM

Hello I'm newbie, Marbella, Spain, is the first time I am forging. I like FIMKrypto; D

Something I'm doing wrong insurance because it is not normal about 48 hours and no ne forging earned any block. > (

I upload an image, I have to also say that I have not generated any token, since no. It is due to Token?

Help us or leave forging unfortunately.

I started very well but I did three block stopped, take two days and nothing.
Hola.

600 forged is OK for your amount.
Try to forge at night - the rate is higher than during the day time.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: mtbitcoin on July 07, 2014, 10:19:19 AM

Hello I'm newbie, Marbella, Spain, is the first time I am forging. I like FIMKrypto; D

Something I'm doing wrong insurance because it is not normal about 48 hours and no ne forging earned any block. > (

I upload an image, I have to also say that I have not generated any token, since no. It is due to Token?

Help us or leave forging unfortunately.

I started very well but I did three block stopped, take two days and nothing.
Hola.

600 forged is OK for your amount.
Try to forge at night - the rate is higher than during the day time.

Well I am running into forging issues too. It was working well until I transferred around 10% of coins out to another wallet and after that it has not forged a block in the last 3 days (since the transfer)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Money1X2 on July 07, 2014, 10:21:06 AM
Hola danza.

Forging all day and all night.

Without turning off the computer day and night. ufff


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: funbug on July 07, 2014, 10:28:14 AM
127.0.0.1:7885/admin.html

generate Token:

website: dgex.com no http or https
It is ok with http:\\

It is problem dgex for encoding token scripts (encoding script two parameter website and token)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: redsquare on July 07, 2014, 10:35:07 AM
Dance is right, the amount you see fits the order-of-magnitude you should be in. Also, you are forging with an effective balance, which only takes effect after 1440 blocks (after the transfer), and I see you did some transfers during the last few days.

I did some simple calculations (very, very simple) but gives a nice view on how things might(!) evolve. The growth rate on the first sheet, is based on all current 333 314 000 FIMK forging, this rate will surely change, especially when the distribution starts on 1-Oct-2014, and also because 576 000 FIMK is currently distributed daily as rewards (200 FIMK/block, 2880 blocks/day).

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UlwziOljobc3ro9p-Cdr6YsqCiwvoTQsWHsQWE-3HSc/edit?usp=sharing


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: dance on July 07, 2014, 10:40:07 AM
127.0.0.1:7885/admin.html

generate Token:

website: dgex.com no http or https
It is ok with http:\\

It is problem dgex for encoding token scripts (encoding script two parameter website and token)
I was making my last 5-6 nxt/fimk deposits providing token for `http:\\dgex.com`, and there were no problems.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: rommaz on July 07, 2014, 11:05:09 AM
Dance is right, the amount you see fits the order-of-magnitude you should be in. Also, you are forging with an effective balance, which only takes effect after 1440 blocks (after the transfer), and I see you did some transfers during the last few days.

If I do a transfer my forging stops and starts only after 1440 bloks.  Did I understand it right?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Vega on July 07, 2014, 11:24:39 AM
Dance is right, the amount you see fits the order-of-magnitude you should be in. Also, you are forging with an effective balance, which only takes effect after 1440 blocks (after the transfer), and I see you did some transfers during the last few days.

If I do a transfer my forging stops and starts only after 1440 bloks.  Did I understand it right?
Yes. (But only for the coins you moved.)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: gvans on July 07, 2014, 01:59:15 PM
How about a Facebook-page? There could be even a bounty for that. Maybe 5000 FIMK for a page with 1000 likes or something. I know Facebook is big no no for some individuals but in the end of the day that is still a big marketing and information channel for the mainstream and would be silly not to take advantage of it. Companies use it, associations use it, bands and performing artists use it, you name it.

Also @ devs:

How decentralized do you see this currency? Do you encourage people to take action themselves without you (fimk-organisation) coordinating it?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: bitcoinboy163 on July 07, 2014, 02:26:57 PM
the price is too high,not worthy of investing.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Primitive on July 07, 2014, 02:27:57 PM
the price is too high,not worthy of investing.

thanks for your deep technical analysis


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: BlackFor3st on July 07, 2014, 02:38:21 PM
I did some simple calculations (very, very simple) but gives a nice view on how things might(!) evolve. The growth rate on the first sheet, is based on all current 333 314 000 FIMK forging, this rate will surely change, especially when the distribution starts on 1-Oct-2014, and also because 576 000 FIMK is currently distributed daily as rewards (200 FIMK/block, 2880 blocks/day).

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UlwziOljobc3ro9p-Cdr6YsqCiwvoTQsWHsQWE-3HSc/edit?usp=sharing
Thx for the calculation.

I love forging FIMK.
The good feeling when you see your balance constantly  growing, is a very nice side effect ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Primitive on July 07, 2014, 02:43:53 PM
This is just my opinion and people are welcome to disagree, but I think if you are worrying about DGEX and getting listed right away on new exchanges, then you probably just want to dump your FIMK or day-trade.  That's short sighted.

If you care about this coin, then you won't worry about where we are after 1 week.  Its where we are in 1 year that matters. 

Why rush?

PS - if you hate DGEX, bite the bullet and move your FIMK out and stop complaining and FUDing.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: smaragda on July 07, 2014, 02:58:43 PM
the price is too high,not worthy of investing.

thanks for your deep technical analysis

lol


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Simakki on July 07, 2014, 03:00:27 PM
the price is too high,not worthy of investing.

thanks for your deep technical analysis

lol

 ;D LOL


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: gvans on July 07, 2014, 03:08:05 PM

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-NobktKjV95g/Uyz407i0nvI/AAAAAAAAFa4/MZeVzUxxf04/s1600/we%2527re+not+worthy.png


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on July 07, 2014, 03:32:31 PM
Krypto FIN ry. wishes to celebrate successful launch of FIMKrypto and begins to fulfill its extra block bounties spree by offering

REWARD
10000 FIMK


for the finder of block 10000.

The extra block reward will be paid within two days from passing block 10000 on top of any other block rewards from the Krypto Fin ry. bounty reserve account.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: gvans on July 07, 2014, 03:40:12 PM
10000 FIMK

for the finder of block 10000.

Excellent! Just an idea for the future:

The biggest accounts will forge most blocks anyhow (a couple of them with possibly over 10 000 000 FIMK on them from IPO etc), and these big rewards will in average only accumulate in their stakes in the end.

So would it be it would be a good idea for these special forging-rewards to have some kind of mathematical formula to reward smaller accounts with bigger reward. For example account with 10000 FIMK forging that special block would get the full 10000 price but an account with 100000 would get only 1000 or so. This was just as an example, and the precise formula needs a good tweaking but you get the idea. THAT would really make difference for small time crypto-hobbyists and small investors, who are by the way the majority of the community in the long run that you will want to please rather than a handful of whales who will forge tens of thousands FIMK anyhow even without special rewards.

And the remaining FIMK would be used in the next special rewards.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: mellorbo on July 07, 2014, 03:47:43 PM
10000 FIMK

for the finder of block 10000.

Excellent! Just an idea for the future: The biggest accounts will forge most blocks anyhow (a couple of them with possibly over 10 000 000 FIMK on them from IPO etc), and these big rewards will in average only accumulate to their stakes in the end. So would it be a good idea for these special forging-awards to have some kind of mathematical formula to reward smaller accounts with bigger reward. For example account with 10000 FIMK forging that special block would get the full 10000 price but an account with 100000 would get only 1000 or so. Just as an example, the precise formula needs a good tweaking but you get the idea. THAT would really make difference for small time crypto-hobbyists and small investors, which is by the way the majority of the community in the long run that you want to please rather than a handful of whales which will forge tens of thousands FIMK anyway.

And the remaining FIMK would be used in the next special rewards.

i agree 100%
the way crypto works in my eyes atm is still the same as fiat the rich get richer and the poor get fuck all lmao (yes i am in the poor section haha)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: redsquare on July 07, 2014, 04:01:48 PM
I love forging FIMK.
The good feeling when you see your balance constantly  growing, is a very nice side effect ;D

Yes it is! It's precisely what I missed in NXT... been forging for months, no return however...


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Primitive on July 07, 2014, 04:04:48 PM
Excellent! Just an idea for the future:

The biggest accounts will forge most blocks anyhow (a couple of them with possibly over 10 000 000 FIMK on them from IPO etc), and these big rewards will in average only accumulate in their stakes in the end.

So would it be a good idea for these special forging-rewards to have some kind of mathematical formula to reward smaller accounts with bigger reward. For example account with 10000 FIMK forging that special block would get the full 10000 price but an account with 100000 would get only 1000 or so. This was just as an example, and the precise formula needs a good tweaking but you get the idea. THAT would really make difference for small time crypto-hobbyists and small investors, who are by the way the majority of the community in the long run that you will want to please rather than a handful of whales who will forge tens of thousands FIMK anyhow even without special rewards.

And the remaining FIMK would be used in the next special rewards.

I am a large FIM holder (from IPO) and I even I think it would be nice to have incentives for smaller FIM holders to get involved.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Vega on July 07, 2014, 04:05:19 PM
i agree 100%
the way crypto works in my eyes atm is still the same as fiat the rich get richer and the poor get fuck all lmao (yes i am in the poor section haha)

I really wish people would stop saying this, because it's just not true.
The saying refers to systems where the rich gets better return for their money. Just because they have more they get more opportunities and favorable terms. You know, like the real word.

But with PoS the rich do not get richer. No matter how much coin do you have, any one coin will always earn the same return. This is the most fair system you can ask for.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: gvans on July 07, 2014, 04:18:56 PM
But with PoS the rich do not get richer. No matter how much coin do you have, any one coin will always earn the same return. This is the most fair system you can ask for.

Come on it's math. Big stakes do accumulate way faster and therefore rich do get richer.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on July 07, 2014, 04:19:08 PM
I am a large FIM holder (from IPO) and I even I think it would be nice to have incentives for smaller FIM holders to get involved.
We'll think this through how to arrange it, but it's very difficult to do without skewing the incentives towards unfairness.

Bonus rewards are not paid very often, so random variance will play a big role and even small time forgers have a considerable chance of hitting the bonanza on one of them.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: tigomjir on July 07, 2014, 04:20:53 PM
1000+ votes on BTER. come on


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: gvans on July 07, 2014, 04:38:00 PM
I am a large FIM holder (from IPO) and I even I think it would be nice to have incentives for smaller FIM holders to get involved.
We'll think this through how to arrange it, but it's very difficult to do without skewing the incentives towards unfairness.

Bonus rewards are not paid very often, so random variance will play a big role and even small time forgers have a considerable chance of hitting the bonanza on one of them.

Rough idea: Divide the reward with the forging account's balance and use that as a factor. Additionally have a maximum cap for revard, like 10000 now. This way anyone with 10000 or less would get the full reward 10000. Account with 50000 would get 10000/50000 times 10000 = 2000 etc. Simple.

The 200 FIMK basic reward would be paid in any case for the extra rewarded block like for any block. So an account with a million would get the usual 200 + only 100 extra. But an account with a million on it will forge like what, 600 000 a year was it?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: dance on July 07, 2014, 04:55:44 PM
Proportionally each account forge with the same rate. No matter how coins it has.
If talking about this particular 10000 reward, most _probably_ it will go to the `middle class` holder. Just because stakes of `poor` holders are too small, and count of `rich` holders is too low.
I don`t remember how IPO listing looked like, but most probably again, it looked like most of things in our world - as `normal distribution` :)

But from other side, we will see normal distribution of bonus rewards only after they will happen in a quite a lot quantity. :)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: gvans on July 07, 2014, 04:57:42 PM
Proportionally each account forge with the same rate. No matter how coins it has.

But with PoS the rich do not get richer. No matter how much coin do you have, any one coin will always earn the same return. This is the most fair system you can ask for.

Come on it's math. Big stakes do accumulate way faster and therefore rich do get richer.

I guess I'm trying to say we have to see this reward as an average future Finnish user will see it. There is the great potential if it will be widely adopted. So as a citizen you get 100 FIMK a month for starters. That is peanuts but that is what they will have. So you have received 600 in half a year and you're thinking: should I investigate this further and maybe try forging. Hey there is these regular rewards every week! Hmmm, maybe I'll give it a shot. So rather have a rewards more often and pay them reduced whenever the forging account is a big one (saving the capital for future rewards) rather than pay a full reward twice a year.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: dance on July 07, 2014, 05:08:05 PM
Proportionally each account forge with the same rate. No matter how coins it has.

But with PoS the rich do not get richer. No matter how much coin do you have, any one coin will always earn the same return. This is the most fair system you can ask for.

Come on it's math. Big stakes do accumulate way faster and therefore rich do get richer.

You don't understand.

Poor guy has 0.1% of all coins initially.
Rich guy has 10% of all coins initially.
Both are forging 24/7 for a year.

In the end of the year they still will have 0.1%/10% of all existing coins.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: gvans on July 07, 2014, 05:27:23 PM
Proportionally each account forge with the same rate. No matter how coins it has.

But with PoS the rich do not get richer. No matter how much coin do you have, any one coin will always earn the same return. This is the most fair system you can ask for.

Come on it's math. Big stakes do accumulate way faster and therefore rich do get richer.

You don't understand.

Poor guy has 0.1% of all coins initially.
Rich guy has 10% of all coins initially.
Both are forging 24/7 for a year.

In the end of the year they still will have 0.1%/10% of all existing coins.


example calculation:

100 000 coins distributed from total 200 000
daily interest 1%

100 000 coins distributed
account A 0.1% (100 coins)  earns 1 a day
account B 10% (10 000 coins) earns 100 a day
account C 89.1% (89 900 coins) earns 899 a day

after one day
account A 101 coins = 0.05% of total 200 000
account B 10100 coins = 5.0% of total 200 000
account C 90799 coins = 45.4% of total 200 000

after two days
account A 102.01 coins = 0.051%
account B 10201 coins = 5.10%
account C 91706.99 coins = 45.85%

after ten days
account A 110.46 coins = 0.055%
account B 11046 coins = 5.5%
account C 99305.53 coins = 49.65%

after 50 days
account A 164.46 coins = 0.082% (started from 0.05% of total 200 000)
account B 16446.32 coins = 8.2% (started from 5% of total 200 000)
account C 147852.40 coins = 73.9% (started from 44.95% of total 200 000)

The growth will end when the total cap of 200 000 coins is reached naturally.


edit: this clearly does not work in the economic model of fixed amount of currency, my bad
edit2: it kinda does with FIMK after all. Half of the total amount in the citculation in the beginning, so the percentages of the stakes from start will change accordingly  ;)
edit3: D'oh  ;) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=633304.msg7724062#msg7724062


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: gvans on July 07, 2014, 05:37:24 PM
dance said In the end of the year they still will have 0.1%/10% of all existing coins.
That is not the case.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: dance on July 07, 2014, 05:39:01 PM

basic maths (example):

total 100 000 coins

account A 0.1% (100 coins)  earns 1 a day
account B 10% (10 000 coins) earns 100 a day
So there are 100000 coins represents 100%.
Where are another 89.9%? Lets name it account C (89900 coins).

Quote
after one day
account A 101 coins = 0.101%
account B 10100 coins = 10.1%
And account C  90799 coins.

So NOW 100% coins != 100000 coins. It is 90799+10100+101=101000 now.
So A still has 0.1%
B still has 10%
C still has 89.9%

etc


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: gvans on July 07, 2014, 05:47:40 PM
Someone give ME a facepalm, lol. But I still don't understand how does this work when put into perspective of having fixed amount of coins.

Anyhow agree with Jack Needles, good start.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: illodin on July 07, 2014, 05:56:33 PM
I have been forging, but had to reboot my computer today. After reboot, I started up the fimk java process (ran the run.bat file), and logged in my account. It says I'm forging again - is this normal? I thought that if the java process dies I'd have to start forging again.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: gvans on July 07, 2014, 05:58:16 PM
@dance
Actually with FIMK model the total would be accordingly to previous example calculation 200 000 fixed.
and 100 000 from the beginning in circulation. Right?

Total FIMK in Genesis block: 666,280,000
Genesis block stakeholder funds: 333,140,000


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: noashh on July 07, 2014, 06:01:28 PM
Made a Facebook Fanpage @ https://www.facebook.com/FIMKrypto


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: tigomjir on July 07, 2014, 06:10:05 PM
hi dev, what are the future plans? what are the marketing plans? How you intend to spend the BTCs from IPO?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: dance on July 07, 2014, 06:10:32 PM
@dance
Actually with FIMK model the total would be accordingly to previous example calculation 200 000 fixed.
and 100 000 from the beginning in circulation. Right?

Total FIMK in Genesis block: 666,280,000
Genesis block stakeholder funds: 333,140,000
I'm not really understanding you.

For me it is easy to think like that:
We all received 300,000,000 coins in amounts according to our stakes.

170,000,000 addition will be given to us in the first year.

And amounts of these additions will have the same proportions as our initial stakes.

You payed for 30,000 coins initially - you will receive 17,000 at the end of the year.
You payed for 3,000,000 coins - you will receive 1,700,000 at the end of the year.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on July 07, 2014, 06:13:31 PM
Made a Facebook Fanpage @ https://www.facebook.com/FIMKrypto

Nice work. Would you consider transferring access rights to Krypto FIN ry. for us to effectively be able to use the particular account for promotion, announcements and related things please?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: noashh on July 07, 2014, 06:15:04 PM
Made a Facebook Fanpage @ https://www.facebook.com/FIMKrypto

Nice work. Would you consider transferring access rights to Krypto FIN ry. for us to effectively be able to use the particular account for promotion, announcements and related things please?

Sure


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: gvans on July 07, 2014, 06:30:29 PM
@dance
Actually with FIMK model the total would be accordingly to previous example calculation 200 000 fixed.
and 100 000 from the beginning in circulation. Right?

Total FIMK in Genesis block: 666,280,000
Genesis block stakeholder funds: 333,140,000
I'm not really understanding you.

For me it is easy to think like that:
We all received 300,000,000 coins in amounts according to our stakes.

170,000,000 addition will be given to us in the first year.

And amounts of these additions will have the same proportions as our initial stakes.

You payed for 30,000 coins initially - you will receive 17,000 at the end of the year.
You payed for 3,000,000 coins - you will receive 1,700,000 at the end of the year.

No worries I'm not here to argue, not at all. It's more like I'm trying to get my head around how this works. I did correct my calculation so that the initial distribution is half of the total as it is in FIMK https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=633304.msg7721274#msg7721274
But I will take the facepalm if I'm wrong :D


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Primitive on July 07, 2014, 06:33:35 PM
Made a Facebook Fanpage @ https://www.facebook.com/FIMKrypto

Nice work. Would you consider transferring access rights to Krypto FIN ry. for us to effectively be able to use the particular account for promotion, announcements and related things please?

Sure

Yes, I think it could cause confusion if this Facebook page is not maintained by the Devs (because of the exact fb url /Fimkrypto)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: redsquare on July 07, 2014, 07:00:05 PM
I'm not really understanding you.

For me it is easy to think like that:
We all received 300,000,000 coins in amounts according to our stakes.

170,000,000 addition will be given to us in the first year.

And amounts of these additions will have the same proportions as our initial stakes.

You payed for 30,000 coins initially - you will receive 17,000 at the end of the year.
You payed for 3,000,000 coins - you will receive 1,700,000 at the end of the year.

That's true under the assumption that all coins are forging 24/7 the whole year (and we now that there is ~20M in accounts owned by the developers, not sure if they are forging). We know that from 1-10-2014 onward 100 FIMK/month will be distributed to Finnish citizens who have opted-in (if it turns out a major success the funds (313M) will be deplete very quickly, 5 400 000 people in Finland, ~83% = 15+, if 5% opt-in, ~22M/month as basic income), this alters the rate also.

Currently sampling the growth rate, which till now is much higher (from my perspective at least)...  ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: dance on July 07, 2014, 07:10:45 PM
I'm not really understanding you.

For me it is easy to think like that:
We all received 300,000,000 coins in amounts according to our stakes.

170,000,000 addition will be given to us in the first year.

And amounts of these additions will have the same proportions as our initial stakes.

You payed for 30,000 coins initially - you will receive 17,000 at the end of the year.
You payed for 3,000,000 coins - you will receive 1,700,000 at the end of the year.

That's true under the assumption that all coins are forging 24/7 the whole year (and we now that there is ~20M in accounts owned by the developers, not sure if they are forging). We know that from 1-10-2014 onward 100 FIMK/month will be distributed to Finnish citizens who have opted-in (if it turns out a major success the funds (313M) will be deplete very quickly, 5 400 000 people in Finland, ~83% = 15+, if 5% opt-in, ~22M/month as basic income), this alters the rate also.

Currently sampling the growth rate, which till now is much higher (from my perspective at least)...  ;)

Yes, my model is simplified.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: dance on July 07, 2014, 07:18:27 PM

No worries I'm not here to argue, not at all. It's more like I'm trying to get my head around how this works. I did correct my calculation so that the initial distribution is half of the total as it is in FIMK https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=633304.msg7721274#msg7721274
But I will take the facepalm if I'm wrong :D

Now I see where are you wrong.
There is no 1% interest.
There is only 200 fimk per block (plus transaction fees).

So 1st day A received 1 coin because he owns 0.1%
And the 2nd and all others days he will be receiving 1 coin because he still owns 0.1%

B will be receiving his 100 each day respectively.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: dance on July 07, 2014, 07:33:50 PM
What about creating or being added to a pool? I mean not a multipool, but something like nxtio.org
So that holders who can't have their computers be turned on 24/7 will be still receiving rewards?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: gvans on July 07, 2014, 07:57:07 PM
Someone with good math, please do a simple form (excel or what ever) where you can enter your balance and it will give you the average first year forged amount. Assuming all the available coins are forging (not devs reserve coins). Would be useful!


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: dance on July 07, 2014, 08:04:41 PM
Someone with good math, please do a simple form (excel or what ever) where you can enter your balance and it will give you the average first year forged amount. Assuming all the available coins are forging (not devs reserve coins). Would be useful!
forged = 200 * 2880 * 365 * balance / 333000000


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: redsquare on July 07, 2014, 08:07:09 PM
Someone with good math, please do a simple form (excel or what ever) where you can enter your balance and it will give you the average first year forged amount. Assuming all the available coins are forging (not devs reserve coins). Would be useful!

I already have made such a form (excel sheet), very simple model, for 308 days all coins are forging, new coins distributed as rewards and as basic income and not being taken nto consideration (would be a nice add on..):

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UlwziOljobc3ro9p-Cdr6YsqCiwvoTQsWHsQWE-3HSc/edit?usp=sharing


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: dance on July 07, 2014, 08:22:25 PM
Faucet at http://jaft.tk/faucet
Finnish language faucet: http://jaft.tk/faucet/fin
FIMK number game: http://jaft.tk/numbergame

And a new simple automated exchange is being developed at http://jaft.tk

-From an unofficial FIMK developer


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: gvans on July 07, 2014, 08:31:01 PM
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UlwziOljobc3ro9p-Cdr6YsqCiwvoTQsWHsQWE-3HSc/edit?usp=sharing

Fantastic! Thanks. So basically roughly around 500 days anyone forging with any amount would double her/his initial stake.
And I was wrong originally, you can not calculate it as interest so it is not cumulative in that sense. Facepalm, let me have it ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: redsquare on July 07, 2014, 09:54:13 PM
Fantastic! Thanks. So basically roughly around 500 days anyone forging with any amount would double her/his initial stake.
And I was wrong originally, you can not calculate it as interest so it is not cumulative in that sense. Facepalm, let me have it ;D

I think it's a fair 1st-order approximation, but a more precise model would take into account the total number of coins forging (which is growing as they are rewarded) and also after about 90 days the basic income distribution will start, and we can only guess at how popular this will be.

Is there some way the number of coins which are forging can be deduced in (semi) real-time?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: SyRenity on July 07, 2014, 10:43:01 PM
A possible bug report - when using hosted FIMK to forge, and logging out then in again, I see "not forging" (I do see new forged amounts).


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: dance on July 08, 2014, 06:16:12 AM
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UlwziOljobc3ro9p-Cdr6YsqCiwvoTQsWHsQWE-3HSc/edit?usp=sharing

Fantastic! Thanks. So basically roughly around 500 days anyone forging with any amount would double her/his initial stake.
And I was wrong originally, you can not calculate it as interest so it is not cumulative in that sense. Facepalm, let me have it ;D
It can't be 500 days. This spreadsheet is wrong. :)

Quote
   • 333,14 million FIMK distributed to stakeholders (you can be one) by Jul 1st 2014

    • 333,72 million FIMK distributed as block rewards during ~4 years after launch

FORGER_FEE_STAGE 1: 200 (DAY 0 to DAY 308)
FORGER_FEE_STAGE 2: 100 (DAY 309 to DAY 618)
FORGER_FEE_STAGE 3: 50 (DAY 619 to DAY 928)
FORGER_FEE_STAGE 4: 25 (DAY 929 to DAY 1238)

TOTAL FEE STAGE 1 177984000
TOTAL FEE STAGE 2 88992000
TOTAL FEE STAGE 3 44496000
TOTAL FEE STAGE 4 22248000
So, if not talking about citizens distribution, amount will _double_ only after 1238 days.
But, after 308 days amount will be multiplied by (333+178)/333=1.53


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: redsquare on July 08, 2014, 08:17:36 AM
So, if not talking about citizens distribution, amount will _double_ only after 1238 days.
But, after 308 days amount will be multiplied by (333+178)/333=1.53

Yes, true. I made this visible in a second sheet (first 308 days only), which can be found here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1n5kEzl2iejum6n8euqaAqVtXa5KSXdQGChsiT1ypl_c/edit?usp=sharing


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: tobeaj2mer01 on July 08, 2014, 08:24:28 AM
Made a Facebook Fanpage @ https://www.facebook.com/FIMKrypto

Nice work. Would you consider transferring access rights to Krypto FIN ry. for us to effectively be able to use the particular account for promotion, announcements and related things please?

I have followed it in Facebook ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: qora dan on July 08, 2014, 09:04:53 AM
I have a challenge for the FIMK community. A friend of mine and his wife are going cycle from London to Paris on the 5th - 8th August to raise funds for a charity. Their goal is to raise £3000 in 28 days until the event. You can read more about their cause here http://bike4youth.tumblr.com/cause

Neither of them are cyclist so this is quite a challenge for them and I really want to help them out as much as I can therefore I have set up a donations account below and will donate 100,000 FIMK to their cause now and until the 5th of August all the FIMK I forge.

I made a few calculations and at the current BTC and FIMK rates £3000 translates to roughly 1,700,000 FIMK. That 's not too much to ask and seeing as this is a new crytpo and the forging working brilliantly, I think something great to get involved in.

I also propose that all the donations received over £3000 stay in the donations account to keep forging and then monthly we donate what's forged to the same or other charities.

Lets get donating to

FIM-8HX6-YR69-FQ6W-5MGNX

**** NB All distributions will be documented and there will always be clear visibility as to when the money is donated to the charities.***


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: qora dan on July 08, 2014, 09:15:00 AM
100,000 donation made to FIM-8HX6-YR69-FQ6W-5MGNX



Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: btler420 on July 08, 2014, 10:25:18 AM
I have a challenge for the FIMK community. A friend of mine and his wife are going cycle from London to Paris on the 5th - 8th August to raise funds for a charity. Their goal is to raise £3000 in 28 days until the event. You can read more about their cause here http://bike4youth.tumblr.com/cause

Neither of them are cyclist so this is quite a challenge for them and I really want to help them out as much as I can therefore I have set up a donations account below and will donate 100,000 FIMK to their cause now and until the 5th of August all the FIMK I forge.

I made a few calculations and at the current BTC and FIMK rates £3000 translates to roughly 1,700,000 FIMK. That 's not too much to ask and seeing as this is a new crytpo and the forging working brilliantly, I think something great to get involved in.

I also propose that all the donations received over £3000 stay in the donations account to keep forging and then monthly we donate what's forged to the same or other charities.

Lets get donating to

FIM-8HX6-YR69-FQ6W-5MGNX

**** NB All distributions will be documented and there will always be clear visibility as to when the money is donated to the charities.***


Bullshit gtfo with your scam. I can set up a website + story in few minutes create a new address send 100k to it and let it look like its legit. After the time runs out Im gonna disappear with the donations, bye.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Simakki on July 08, 2014, 10:43:05 AM
Waiting some good news  ;D!


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: qora dan on July 08, 2014, 10:51:40 AM
I have a challenge for the FIMK community. A friend of mine and his wife are going cycle from London to Paris on the 5th - 8th August to raise funds for a charity. Their goal is to raise £3000 in 28 days until the event. You can read more about their cause here http://bike4youth.tumblr.com/cause

Neither of them are cyclist so this is quite a challenge for them and I really want to help them out as much as I can therefore I have set up a donations account below and will donate 100,000 FIMK to their cause now and until the 5th of August all the FIMK I forge.

I made a few calculations and at the current BTC and FIMK rates £3000 translates to roughly 1,700,000 FIMK. That 's not too much to ask and seeing as this is a new crytpo and the forging working brilliantly, I think something great to get involved in.

I also propose that all the donations received over £3000 stay in the donations account to keep forging and then monthly we donate what's forged to the same or other charities.

Lets get donating to

FIM-8HX6-YR69-FQ6W-5MGNX

**** NB All distributions will be documented and there will always be clear visibility as to when the money is donated to the charities.***


Bullshit gtfo with your scam. I can set up a website + story in few minutes create a new address send 100k to it and let it look like its legit. After the time runs out Im gonna disappear with the donations, bye.

No need to be rude mate and before you call it a scam did you even bother to click on any one of the links to see which charity is supported. Since you claim it so easy to set up a scam maybe your the one with the people should be aware of.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: gvans on July 08, 2014, 11:16:09 AM
Block 10000 was forged by account with 18+ million FIMK i.e. one of the two gigantic stakeholders from ipo. Account has forged 120000 pos-rewards already and now gets 10000 as bonus.  http://80.240.143.139/blocks/10247

One has to look it from the point of view of average future user which is hopefully the Finnish citizen who will get 100 a month. It is obvious she/he will feel offended by the idea that someone with big stake will will get the same amount as reward what she/he will have to wait for 100 months to collect (if the distribution even ever will last that long). So the average guy would propably just abandon the whole thing feeling it is not equal chance for her/him anymore.

Any chance to reconsider this kind of idea?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=633304.msg7720567#msg7720567


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: hyo on July 08, 2014, 12:33:26 PM
Hello

I wanted to ask if there is any risk associated with forging if done with a downloaded "local" client?

And aliases can still not be created right?

Is Fimk Ry devs forging with the unreleased fimk balances as well ?





Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: megashira1 on July 08, 2014, 12:44:56 PM
I have a challenge for the FIMK community. A friend of mine and his wife are going cycle from London to Paris on the 5th - 8th August to raise funds for a charity. Their goal is to raise £3000 in 28 days until the event. You can read more about their cause here http://bike4youth.tumblr.com/cause

Neither of them are cyclist so this is quite a challenge for them and I really want to help them out as much as I can therefore I have set up a donations account below and will donate 100,000 FIMK to their cause now and until the 5th of August all the FIMK I forge.

I made a few calculations and at the current BTC and FIMK rates £3000 translates to roughly 1,700,000 FIMK. That 's not too much to ask and seeing as this is a new crytpo and the forging working brilliantly, I think something great to get involved in.

I also propose that all the donations received over £3000 stay in the donations account to keep forging and then monthly we donate what's forged to the same or other charities.

Lets get donating to

FIM-8HX6-YR69-FQ6W-5MGNX

**** NB All distributions will be documented and there will always be clear visibility as to when the money is donated to the charities.***


Bullshit gtfo with your scam. I can set up a website + story in few minutes create a new address send 100k to it and let it look like its legit. After the time runs out Im gonna disappear with the donations, bye.

No need to be rude mate and before you call it a scam did you even bother to click on any one of the links to see which charity is supported. Since you claim it so easy to set up a scam maybe your the one with the people should be aware of.

I'm sure the charity is legit but noone knows if you are. If you really want to do this get a trusted escrow to hold the funds. You might have good intentions, you probably do, but money can easily corrupt people.

I too used to have trust and faith in humanity until I came onto the crypto scene and was scammed for 15btc @600usd.

good luck


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on July 08, 2014, 01:18:07 PM
Block 10000 was forged by account with 18+ million FIMK i.e. one of the two gigantic stakeholders from ipo. Account has forged 120000 pos-rewards already and now gets 10000 as bonus.  http://80.240.143.139/blocks/10247

..So the average guy would propably just abandon the whole thing feeling it is not equal chance for her/him anymore.
This was sheer stroke of luck. All other accounts together probably had better probability of forging that one, but it went this way now. No reason to use that as an implication of anything sinister. Lady Fortuna's attention skips us once in a while when she has to attend for more important things!


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: xibeijan on July 08, 2014, 01:25:26 PM
I am a large FIM holder (from IPO) and I even I think it would be nice to have incentives for smaller FIM holders to get involved.
We'll think this through how to arrange it, but it's very difficult to do without skewing the incentives towards unfairness.

Bonus rewards are not paid very often, so random variance will play a big role and even small time forgers have a considerable chance of hitting the bonanza on one of them.

Reward the first account whose balance is less than or equal to 1M FIM starting at block 10,000.  That's an easy way to skew the rewards toward small stakeholders.

Give 50% to account at 10,000 (likely to be large stakeholder) and 50% to first small account following block 10,000 (guaranteed to be small stakeholder).


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on July 08, 2014, 05:45:24 PM
Reward the first account whose balance is less than or equal to 1M FIM starting at block 10,000.  That's an easy way to skew the rewards toward small stakeholders.

Give 50% to account at 10,000 (likely to be large stakeholder) and 50% to first small account following block 10,000 (guaranteed to be small stakeholder).
What prevents the large stakeholders from dividing their holdings to several smaller accounts, if we start to considerably favor small accounts? The annoyance just slows them down and wastes energy.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: PilotofBTC on July 08, 2014, 08:17:31 PM
Reward the first account whose balance is less than or equal to 1M FIM starting at block 10,000.  That's an easy way to skew the rewards toward small stakeholders.

Give 50% to account at 10,000 (likely to be large stakeholder) and 50% to first small account following block 10,000 (guaranteed to be small stakeholder).
What prevents the large stakeholders from dividing their holdings to several smaller accounts, if we start to considerably favor small accounts? The annoyance just slows them down and wastes energy.

I'm not sure how the math works, but will X amount of FIMK forge the same number of blocks split across multiple accounts as it will in a single account?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: gvans on July 08, 2014, 08:57:25 PM
Reward the first account whose balance is less than or equal to 1M FIM starting at block 10,000.  That's an easy way to skew the rewards toward small stakeholders.

Give 50% to account at 10,000 (likely to be large stakeholder) and 50% to first small account following block 10,000 (guaranteed to be small stakeholder).
What prevents the large stakeholders from dividing their holdings to several smaller accounts, if we start to considerably favor small accounts? The annoyance just slows them down and wastes energy.

I'm not sure how the math works, but will X amount of FIMK forge the same number of blocks split across multiple accounts as it will in a single account?

Yes, same amount. But it would require huge amounts of accounts to be generated by big account-owner, 1800 accounts for that 18 million to take it down to 10000 balance each. I would not do it if I forged millions in a year anyway.

Brilliant idea btw to split it in two 8) Only I would correct that either one of the two blocks in a row are as likely to be forged by a big stakeholder since that square number block is just a regular block like the rest of them. But the odds that the same account forges two in a row is way lower.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: vincentvincent on July 08, 2014, 09:17:11 PM
Hello

I wanted to ask if there is any risk associated with forging if done with a downloaded "local" client?

And aliases can still not be created right?

Is Fimk Ry devs forging with the unreleased fimk balances as well ?


I don't see any risks in forging with a downloaded client running on your local machine. your password will stay locally, I see no risk.

I was able to create aliases? So I think creating aliases should be possible also for you?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Vega on July 08, 2014, 09:17:19 PM
Reward the first account whose balance is less than or equal to 1M FIM starting at block 10,000.  That's an easy way to skew the rewards toward small stakeholders.

Give 50% to account at 10,000 (likely to be large stakeholder) and 50% to first small account following block 10,000 (guaranteed to be small stakeholder).
What prevents the large stakeholders from dividing their holdings to several smaller accounts, if we start to considerably favor small accounts? The annoyance just slows them down and wastes energy.

I'm not sure how the math works, but will X amount of FIMK forge the same number of blocks split across multiple accounts as it will in a single account?

Yes, same amount. But it would require huge amounts of accounts to be generated by big account-owner, 1800 accounts for that 18 million to take it down to 10000 balance each. I would not do it if I forged millions in a year anyway.


Skewing toward small stakeholders don't work. We ran these rounds with Nxt before.
It would take me about 5 minutes to write a scrypt that can distribute my account into 10k chunks.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: gvans on July 08, 2014, 09:48:39 PM

Skewing toward small stakeholders don't work. We ran these rounds with Nxt before.
It would take me about 5 minutes to write a scrypt that can distribute my account into 10k chunks.

BUT, they all would have to be forging too. That's the catch, isn't it.

If even the need of active forging is not an issue, then it has to be something along these lines I suppose
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=633304.msg7720567#msg7720567 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=633304.msg7720567#msg7720567)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Vega on July 08, 2014, 09:53:44 PM

Skewing toward small stakeholders don't work. We ran these rounds with Nxt before.
It would take me about 5 minutes to write a scrypt that can distribute my account into 10k chunks.

BUT, they all would have to be forging too. That's the catch, isn't it.

If even the need of active forging is not an issue, then it has to be something along these lines I suppose
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=633304.msg7720567#msg7720567 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=633304.msg7720567#msg7720567)
There is no cath, you can forge with as many account as you want on one node. There is no difference if you log in with one account or a 1000.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: xibeijan on July 08, 2014, 10:30:28 PM
Reward the first account whose balance is less than or equal to 1M FIM starting at block 10,000.  That's an easy way to skew the rewards toward small stakeholders.

Give 50% to account at 10,000 (likely to be large stakeholder) and 50% to first small account following block 10,000 (guaranteed to be small stakeholder).
What prevents the large stakeholders from dividing their holdings to several smaller accounts, if we start to considerably favor small accounts? The annoyance just slows them down and wastes energy.

I'm not sure how the math works, but will X amount of FIMK forge the same number of blocks split across multiple accounts as it will in a single account?

Yes, same amount. But it would require huge amounts of accounts to be generated by big account-owner, 1800 accounts for that 18 million to take it down to 10000 balance each. I would not do it if I forged millions in a year anyway.


Skewing toward small stakeholders don't work. We ran these rounds with Nxt before.
It would take me about 5 minutes to write a scrypt that can distribute my account into 10k chunks.

I seriously doubt any big stakeholder would waste time doing this.  If you really wanted to, then you could find a way to distribute to smaller stakeholders.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Vega on July 08, 2014, 10:40:16 PM
Skewing toward small stakeholders don't work. We ran these rounds with Nxt before.
It would take me about 5 minutes to write a scrypt that can distribute my account into 10k chunks.

I seriously doubt any big stakeholder would waste time doing this.  If you really wanted to, then you could find a way to distribute to smaller stakeholders.

I was talking about skewed distribution in general, and why won't it work.
If we are still talking about the 10k rewards, I honestly don't care, and I don't even know why we are talking about it this much. It worth 0.03 BTC currently, less than 20 bucks.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: xibeijan on July 09, 2014, 12:30:08 AM
Skewing toward small stakeholders don't work. We ran these rounds with Nxt before.
It would take me about 5 minutes to write a scrypt that can distribute my account into 10k chunks.

I seriously doubt any big stakeholder would waste time doing this.  If you really wanted to, then you could find a way to distribute to smaller stakeholders.

I was talking about skewed distribution in general, and why won't it work.
If we are still talking about the 10k rewards, I honestly don't care, and I don't even know why we are talking about it this much. It worth 0.03 BTC currently, less than 20 bucks.


lol. 20 bucks today can easily become 10,000 USD tomorrow in the crypto world.  Everyone knows this.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: lovely89 on July 09, 2014, 07:26:30 AM
Skewing toward small stakeholders don't work. We ran these rounds with Nxt before.
It would take me about 5 minutes to write a scrypt that can distribute my account into 10k chunks.

I seriously doubt any big stakeholder would waste time doing this.  If you really wanted to, then you could find a way to distribute to smaller stakeholders.

I was talking about skewed distribution in general, and why won't it work.
If we are still talking about the 10k rewards, I honestly don't care, and I don't even know why we are talking about it this much. It worth 0.03 BTC currently, less than 20 bucks.


lol. 20 bucks today can easily become 10,000 USD tomorrow in the crypto world.  Everyone knows this.

The only way to successfully distribute coins evenly to people is to have those people uniquely identified. Without a central authority, or without the mass cooperation of every single person involved, people will always be able to game the system. It's not even about effort, it's about ability. This makes any attempt to reward smaller stakeholders futile. 


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on July 09, 2014, 08:58:31 AM
And aliases can still not be created right?
They can, just use the correct format of the account number (update readme falsely speaks of accepting both formats - coders are like that).

Quote
Is Fimk Ry devs forging with the unreleased fimk balances as well ?

No.

This makes any attempt to reward smaller stakeholders futile. 
On this part I agree and would leave the minor issue of bonus rewards behind now. The rewards are given so rarely that random variance takes care of it. Unfortunately for the first reward randomness had a good one on us, resulting in a lot of wasted energy for the community in an attempt to solve an issue of little significance.

We have arranged the basic income to help those with less money. We cannot yet save the whole world but we can save the early adopter Finns  8)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: realthe on July 09, 2014, 09:50:57 AM
FIMK has been No.7 in bter voting. Maybe we can soon exchange FIMK on bter.

https://bter.com/voting


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Simakki on July 09, 2014, 09:58:13 AM
FIMK has been No.7 in bter voting. Maybe we can soon exchange FIMK on bter.

https://bter.com/voting

Already No. 5  ;D Hopefully we'll see more exchanges trading FIMK.
Forging blocks are quite funny and what i have understood, devs are creating new Exchange for FIMK and it will launch soon!


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: BlackFor3st on July 09, 2014, 12:45:21 PM
FIMK has been No.7 in bter voting. Maybe we can soon exchange FIMK on bter.

https://bter.com/voting

Already No. 5  ;D Hopefully we'll see more exchanges trading FIMK.
Forging blocks are quite funny and what i have understood, devs are creating new Exchange for FIMK and it will launch soon!
Will bter need a permission to list FIM or can the devs decide about that?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: oldnbold on July 09, 2014, 01:44:07 PM
I purchased my FIMK via dgex.com and I've now downloaded the browser web wallet; so next step presumably is to go to https://wallet.fimk.fi:7886/, click on Returning User?, enter the passphrase for my FIMK account, as set out in my dgex.com back office, wait for the blockchain to download and start forging.

Is that it or have I missed a step?

Thought I should check first.

TIA  :)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: moki2 on July 09, 2014, 01:49:44 PM
how to distrubution?i want to know,lol


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: GeneToniK on July 09, 2014, 01:57:41 PM
So FIMK is list in Coinmarketcap and coinmarketcap shows now, change of 1h and 7 days, and all coins in one list, low volume list is closed^^

Second i have a  newbie question, excuse my bad english xD
 The question : When i´am logged out of my account and my pc is don`t running, i can forge. How this works ?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: dance on July 09, 2014, 02:28:49 PM
So FIMK is list in Coinmarketcap and coinmarketcap shows now, change of 1h and 7 days, and all coins in one list, low volume list is closed^^

Second i have a  newbie question, excuse my bad english xD
 The question : When i´am logged out of my account and my pc is don`t running, i can forge. How this works ?
If you are using wallet on fimk.fi website, even if you logging out the 'server part' is still running (keeping your passphrase in memory). But up-time and security are not guaranteed.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: redsquare on July 09, 2014, 02:29:53 PM
So FIMK is list in Coinmarketcap and coinmarketcap shows now, change of 1h and 7 days, and all coins in one list, low volume list is closed^^

There is an efforts underway to provide coinmarketcap.com with the missing details to have FIMK listed properly.

Second i have a  newbie question, excuse my bad english xD
 The question : When i´am logged out of my account and my pc is don`t running, i can forge. How this works ?

You can forge when logged out of your account, but you will have to have a FIMK client (NRS) running which is connected to the internet, e.g. a VPS or Raspberry PI or similar.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: GeneToniK on July 09, 2014, 02:44:52 PM
And when my pc is in sleep modus, this connection works ? Because i forged 3 blocks in this time^^


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: dance on July 09, 2014, 02:46:44 PM
And when my pc is in sleep modus, this connection works ? Because i forged 3 blocks in this time^^
If you are using fimk.fi wallet - yes. But there is no connection. Server part is just running and forging by itself using your passphrase.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: GeneToniK on July 09, 2014, 03:05:59 PM
no, fim nrs runs over localhost:**** , these is no online, or i miss understand that ^^


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: dance on July 09, 2014, 03:14:27 PM
no, fim nrs runs over localhost:**** , these is no online, or i miss understand that ^^
If it runs on localhost, it will not be forging when you computer is in a sleep mode.
But it will, if you just log out from the client, and keep server part running.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: GeneToniK on July 09, 2014, 03:20:44 PM
OK, thanks for info^^


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: PilotofBTC on July 09, 2014, 03:43:04 PM
I purchased my FIMK via dgex.com and I've now downloaded the browser web wallet; so next step presumably is to go to https://wallet.fimk.fi:7886/, click on Returning User?, enter the passphrase for my FIMK account, as set out in my dgex.com back office, wait for the blockchain to download and start forging.

Is that it or have I missed a step?

Thought I should check first.

TIA  :)

You should download and run the wallet on your own machine. You seem to say you did that. I would trust the web wallet is forging for me.

If you downloaded the wallet and ran that run.bat you should browse to localhost:7886 and login. You should see your wallet. From there you can "logout" and keep the wallet running on your PC and you will be forging.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: oldnbold on July 09, 2014, 04:50:46 PM
thanks - I downloaded the wallet, ran the bat file, waited for the console to show that the FIM server had started successfully and then as you suggested browsed to localhost:7886 to log in but got a Problem loading page message. I then  browsed to https://wallet.fimk.fi:7886
put in my passphrase as per the info on the FIMK stakeholder donation escrow page in my dgex.com account and instead of the FIM  account number assigned to me got a new account with zero balance in it.

Clearly I'm doing something wrong here but don't know what - any further help much appreciated . thanks


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Primitive on July 09, 2014, 04:57:34 PM
thanks - I downloaded the wallet, ran the bat file, waited for the console to show that the FIM server had started successfully and then as you suggested browsed to localhost:7886 to log in but got a Problem loading page message. I then  browsed to https://wallet.fimk.fi:7886
put in my passphrase as per the info on the FIMK stakeholder donation escrow page in my dgex.com account and instead of the FIM  account number assigned to me got a new account with zero balance in it.

Clearly I'm doing something wrong here but don't know what - any further help much appreciated . thanks

did you remember to add a space (spacebar) after your passphrase?

EDIT:  the spacebar pertains only to the DGEX generated passphrases


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: dance on July 09, 2014, 05:04:22 PM
thanks - I downloaded the wallet, ran the bat file, waited for the console to show that the FIM server had started successfully and then as you suggested browsed to localhost:7886 to log in but got a Problem loading page message. I then  browsed to https://wallet.fimk.fi:7886
put in my passphrase as per the info on the FIMK stakeholder donation escrow page in my dgex.com account and instead of the FIM  account number assigned to me got a new account with zero balance in it.

Clearly I'm doing something wrong here but don't know what - any further help much appreciated . thanks
Are you adding a space to your dgex passphrase?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: PilotofBTC on July 09, 2014, 05:06:47 PM
thanks - I downloaded the wallet, ran the bat file, waited for the console to show that the FIM server had started successfully and then as you suggested browsed to localhost:7886 to log in but got a Problem loading page message. I then  browsed to https://wallet.fimk.fi:7886
put in my passphrase as per the info on the FIMK stakeholder donation escrow page in my dgex.com account and instead of the FIM  account number assigned to me got a new account with zero balance in it.

Clearly I'm doing something wrong here but don't know what - any further help much appreciated . thanks

What did the console say? Are you on windows?

What was the full error when you tried to browse to localhost:7886?

(oh and what everyone else said about your dgex assigned password ending with a space)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: oldnbold on July 09, 2014, 05:16:38 PM
Thanks for the replies -

from memory the last message on the console stated that FIM server 0.2.2 based on NXT 1.1.5 started successfully

I run Windows

The error message when I tried to browse to http://www.localhost.com:7886/ was

Quote
Server not found

Firefox can't find the server at www.localhost.com.

I hadn't realised I needed to add a space to my passphrase which I've now done and accessed my a/c OK via https://wallet.fimk.fi:7886

Thanks again  :)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: dance on July 09, 2014, 05:20:44 PM
Thanks for the replies -

from memory the last message on the console stated that FIM server 0.2.2 based on NXT 1.1.5 started successfully

I run Windows

The error message when I tried to browse to http://www.localhost.com:7886/ was

Quote
Server not found

Firefox can't find the server at www.localhost.com.

I hadn't realised I needed to add a space to my passphrase which I've now done and accessed my a/c OK via https://wallet.fimk.fi:7886

Thanks again  :)
It must be http://localhost:7886/, without 'www' and '.com' for local access.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: PilotofBTC on July 09, 2014, 05:22:56 PM
Thanks for the replies -

from memory the last message on the console stated that FIM server 0.2.2 based on NXT 1.1.5 started successfully

I run Windows

The error message when I tried to browse to http://www.localhost.com:7886/ was

Quote
Server not found

Firefox can't find the server at www.localhost.com.

I hadn't realised I needed to add a space to my passphrase which I've now done and accessed my a/c OK via https://wallet.fimk.fi:7886

Thanks again  :)

well there you go. There is no www.localhost.com. Literally go to, type in the URL, localhost:7886 in your browser!


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: PilotofBTC on July 09, 2014, 05:23:32 PM
Thanks for the replies -

from memory the last message on the console stated that FIM server 0.2.2 based on NXT 1.1.5 started successfully

I run Windows

The error message when I tried to browse to http://www.localhost.com:7886/ was

Quote
Server not found

Firefox can't find the server at www.localhost.com.

I hadn't realised I needed to add a space to my passphrase which I've now done and accessed my a/c OK via https://wallet.fimk.fi:7886

Thanks again  :)
It must be http://localhost:7886/, without 'www' and '.com' for local access.

Hey, you beat me to it. They should add a .htm in the zip so people can just double click on it.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: oldnbold on July 09, 2014, 05:23:45 PM
Noted - thanks


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: hyo on July 09, 2014, 05:33:00 PM
Thanks Vincent

that is good to know.

Actually i don't know how to make use of aliases but i see other accounts link up with the genesis block per alias and seem to forge well.
Don't know if the alias matters though.

I fell that i am forging quite slow often times.
There are 40 peers half of them appear green (working)
but halve of them show the orange cross.

Is it possible to improve connectivity with those peers or invite others that are working?

Good luck to all!


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: dance on July 09, 2014, 05:37:56 PM

Quote
It must be http://localhost:7886/, without 'www' and '.com' for local access.

Hey, you beat me to it. They should add a .htm in the zip so people can just double click on it.
The idea of this client-server model is that a server part could run anywhere. At your home, work or some rented computer. So it is accessed through IP address which could be any.
It is just used to alias local computer's IP as 'localhost' :)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: PilotofBTC on July 09, 2014, 05:42:13 PM

Quote
It must be http://localhost:7886/, without 'www' and '.com' for local access.

Hey, you beat me to it. They should add a .htm in the zip so people can just double click on it.
The idea of this client-server model is that a server part could run anywhere. At your home, work or some rented computer. So it is accessed through IP address which could be any.
It is just used to alias local computer's IP as 'localhost' :)

I know. But, I think most people will access it on the PC they run it on. They won't access it from another PC on their network. And, for those that do, they won't be clicking on the wallet.htm file.

So, for a person that doesn't really know what localhost is and tries to browser to localhost.com or whatever this will alleviate their problem.

1. Download
2. Unzip
3. Double click run.bat
4. Double click wallet.htm which redirects to localhost:7886
5. Bookmark/Favorite


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: tigomjir on July 09, 2014, 08:46:16 PM
FIMK has been No.7 in bter voting. Maybe we can soon exchange FIMK on bter.

https://bter.com/voting

Already No. 5  ;D Hopefully we'll see more exchanges trading FIMK.
Forging blocks are quite funny and what i have understood, devs are creating new Exchange for FIMK and it will launch soon!

No.4 now


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: GeneToniK on July 09, 2014, 10:53:59 PM
So now i test, pc was in sleep modus, if i was working, and my local wallet still forging a block again in sleep modus, so I´AM SURE it works, BUT WHY ?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Vega on July 09, 2014, 11:07:58 PM
So now i test, pc was in sleep modus, if i was working, and my local wallet still forging a block again in sleep modus, so I´AM SURE it works, BUT WHY ?

If your computer is offline you are not forging, period.

If your account are forging when your computer is off, I can only see two possibilities:
1. At some point you logged in to the web wallet (https://wallet.fimk.fi:7886), and you are still forging there.
2. you are mistaken


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: GeneToniK on July 09, 2014, 11:22:50 PM
i checked out all reasons you mean and no, but i must say that are my downloads works too in sleep modus, so there must be an working connection and forging can works too ^^


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: PL_CoinTrader on July 10, 2014, 07:56:10 AM
Don't forget to vote: https://bter.com/voting


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: casx on July 10, 2014, 09:45:16 AM
Don't forget to vote: https://bter.com/voting

i pushed it right now to place 3rd... with all my btr´s around 400 votes by me


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: qora dan on July 10, 2014, 09:55:15 AM
Can also vote for it here https://www.usecryptos.com/voting


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: apa on July 10, 2014, 12:04:01 PM
Btw, is there any irc channel for fimk community? guess not? I joined #fimk in ircnet. Welcome!


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: PL_CoinTrader on July 10, 2014, 12:09:33 PM
Don't forget to vote: https://bter.com/voting

i pushed it right now to place 3rd... with all my btr´s around 400 votes by me

good job.
I also used all my btr for voting already.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: onlinepro on July 10, 2014, 12:52:26 PM
Now is good time to buy before it goes to another exchange, because then price will go up.
If you use my ref link, http://dgex.com/index.htm?13369, I will use all ref bonus I get from you, to buy more fimks so it will go to the moon faster :P


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: tigomjir on July 10, 2014, 06:16:56 PM
keep voting on BTER. we are nearing 5000 votes


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: PilotofBTC on July 11, 2014, 02:18:48 AM
Now is good time to buy before it goes to another exchange, because then price will go up.
If you use my ref link, http://dgex.com/index.htm?13369, I will use all ref bonus I get from you, to buy more fimks so it will go to the moon faster :P



I have 100,000 FIMK on dgex for sell at price 0.000003 btc, some nice guy brought it by every time 100 FIMK, luckily, I sold all my FIMK,
and my DGEX ACC is 0.000000    ;D ;D ;D ;D

stepping over dollars to pick up pennies. Buh bye.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: zhangdu on July 11, 2014, 05:20:56 AM
Now is good time to buy before it goes to another exchange, because then price will go up.
If you use my ref link, http://dgex.com/index.htm?13369, I will use all ref bonus I get from you, to buy more fimks so it will go to the moon faster :P



I have 100,000 FIMK on dgex for sell at price 0.000003 btc, some nice guy brought it by every time 100 FIMK, luckily, I sold all my FIMK,
and my DGEX ACC is 0.000000    ;D ;D ;D ;D




why don't you try: https://bter.com/voting     they are not charge you min 0.0003 btc each trading.

 


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on July 11, 2014, 05:25:17 AM
I have 100,000 FIMK on dgex for sell at price 0.000003 btc, some nice guy brought it by every time 100 FIMK, luckily, I sold all my FIMK,
and my DGEX ACC is 0.000000    ;D ;D ;D ;D
1000 small sales? That's clearly a malevolent attack on you and DGEX. If I were you I'd ask the money FIMK / BTC back.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: tobeaj2mer01 on July 11, 2014, 05:28:42 AM
Now is good time to buy before it goes to another exchange, because then price will go up.
If you use my ref link, http://dgex.com/index.htm?13369, I will use all ref bonus I get from you, to buy more fimks so it will go to the moon faster :P



I have 100,000 FIMK on dgex for sell at price 0.000003 btc, some nice guy brought it by every time 100 FIMK, luckily, I sold all my FIMK,
and my DGEX ACC is 0.000000    ;D ;D ;D ;D




why don't you try: https://bter.com/voting     they are not charge you min 0.0003 btc each trading.

 

voted.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: vincentvincent on July 11, 2014, 05:36:37 AM
blockexplorer not working?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: zhangdu on July 11, 2014, 06:38:32 AM
I have 100,000 FIMK on dgex for sell at price 0.000003 btc, some nice guy brought it by every time 100 FIMK, luckily, I sold all my FIMK,
and my DGEX ACC is 0.000000    ;D ;D ;D ;D
1000 small sales? That's clearly a malevolent attack on you and DGEX. If I were you I'd ask the money FIMK / BTC back.


I think nothing wrong with DGEX, they have clearly annouanced for sell FIMK:

0.15% fee will be deducted from all completed orders. Minimum fee is 0.0003 BTC.

and clearly annouanced for buy FIMK:

0.15% fee will be deducted from all completed orders. Minimum fee is 1 FIMK.


they didn't mention how much mount is minimum for trading, only minimum fee,  ;). so no one can ask the FIMK / BTC back on foresaid case, the best way is to find another exchanger to spread good FIMK


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on July 11, 2014, 07:04:00 AM
PRESS RELEASE

Helsinki July 11th 2014

Finland launches bitcoins-by-air pilot project

Finnish quasi-national cryptocurrency FIMKrypto has struck a partnership deal with Koodilehto, a Finnish software company, in order to launch world’s first development project that aims to broadcast cryptocurrency transactions through national TV broadcast network in real time.

The technology, coined Kryptoradio, enables merchants and consumers to receive real time P2P network transaction data with any standard Digital TV device and custom software without the requirement of Internet or mobile network connection.

The broadcast transaction data consists of Bitcoin and FIMKrypto transactions, which are encoded and forwarded to the network of Digita, the Finnish national terrestrial TV operator. The broadcast covers 95% of the Finnish territory of approx. 5 million people. The technology, once completed, will be portable to other countries worldwide.

The pilot broadcast project starting from September 1 lasts two months, after which commercial production phase is planned to begin later this year.

FIMKrypto (FIMK) is a cryptocurrency launched in early July by non-profit association Krypto FIN ry. Prior to FIMK’s launch the association received 533 Bitcoins (approx. 250 000 EUR) in donations from domestic and international donators. The association coordinates the FIMKrypto project and organizes a national basic income plan paid in the cryptocurrency.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: zhangdu on July 11, 2014, 07:26:38 AM
PRESS RELEASE

Helsinki July 11th 2014

Finland launches bitcoins-by-air pilot project

Finnish quasi-national cryptocurrency FIMKrypto has struck a partnership deal with Koodilehto, a Finnish software company, in order to launch world’s first development project that aims to broadcast cryptocurrency transactions through national TV broadcast network in real time.

The technology, coined Kryptoradio, enables merchants and consumers to receive real time P2P network transaction data with any standard Digital TV device and custom software without the requirement of Internet or mobile network connection.

The broadcast transaction data consists of Bitcoin and FIMKrypto transactions, which are encoded and forwarded to the network of Digita, the Finnish national terrestrial TV operator. The broadcast covers 95% of the Finnish territory of approx. 5 million people. The technology, once completed, will be portable to other countries worldwide.

The pilot broadcast project starting from September 1 lasts two months, after which commercial production phase is planned to begin later this year.

FIMKrypto (FIMK) is a cryptocurrency launched in early July by non-profit association Krypto FIN ry. Prior to FIMK’s launch the association received 533 Bitcoins (approx. 250 000 EUR) in donations from domestic and international donators. The association coordinates the FIMKrypto project and organizes a national basic income plan paid in the cryptocurrency.




this is big big news for FIMK. :o :o   


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: tobeaj2mer01 on July 11, 2014, 07:52:44 AM
PRESS RELEASE

Helsinki July 11th 2014

Finland launches bitcoins-by-air pilot project

Finnish quasi-national cryptocurrency FIMKrypto has struck a partnership deal with Koodilehto, a Finnish software company, in order to launch world’s first development project that aims to broadcast cryptocurrency transactions through national TV broadcast network in real time.

The technology, coined Kryptoradio, enables merchants and consumers to receive real time P2P network transaction data with any standard Digital TV device and custom software without the requirement of Internet or mobile network connection.

The broadcast transaction data consists of Bitcoin and FIMKrypto transactions, which are encoded and forwarded to the network of Digita, the Finnish national terrestrial TV operator. The broadcast covers 95% of the Finnish territory of approx. 5 million people. The technology, once completed, will be portable to other countries worldwide.

The pilot broadcast project starting from September 1 lasts two months, after which commercial production phase is planned to begin later this year.

FIMKrypto (FIMK) is a cryptocurrency launched in early July by non-profit association Krypto FIN ry. Prior to FIMK’s launch the association received 533 Bitcoins (approx. 250 000 EUR) in donations from domestic and international donators. The association coordinates the FIMKrypto project and organizes a national basic income plan paid in the cryptocurrency.


Very good news.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: chengren on July 11, 2014, 08:01:52 AM
PRESS RELEASE

Helsinki July 11th 2014

Finland launches bitcoins-by-air pilot project

Finnish quasi-national cryptocurrency FIMKrypto has struck a partnership deal with Koodilehto, a Finnish software company, in order to launch world’s first development project that aims to broadcast cryptocurrency transactions through national TV broadcast network in real time.

The technology, coined Kryptoradio, enables merchants and consumers to receive real time P2P network transaction data with any standard Digital TV device and custom software without the requirement of Internet or mobile network connection.

The broadcast transaction data consists of Bitcoin and FIMKrypto transactions, which are encoded and forwarded to the network of Digita, the Finnish national terrestrial TV operator. The broadcast covers 95% of the Finnish territory of approx. 5 million people. The technology, once completed, will be portable to other countries worldwide.

The pilot broadcast project starting from September 1 lasts two months, after which commercial production phase is planned to begin later this year.

FIMKrypto (FIMK) is a cryptocurrency launched in early July by non-profit association Krypto FIN ry. Prior to FIMK’s launch the association received 533 Bitcoins (approx. 250 000 EUR) in donations from domestic and international donators. The association coordinates the FIMKrypto project and organizes a national basic income plan paid in the cryptocurrency.


芬兰的准国家加密货币——FIMK已经和Koodilehto签署了一份合作协议,Koodilehto是一家芬兰软件公司,该协议目标是通过国家电视广播网络实施广播加密货币交易,这个研发项目属于世界首创。
Koodilehto的技术让商户和客户用任何一个标准的数字电视设备和定制软件接收实时P2P网络交易数据,无需连接因特网和移动网络。
广播的交易数据由比特币和FIMK交易数据组成,由芬兰国内地面电视运营商Digita网编码和推送。广播覆盖95%芬兰疆域,500万居民。该技术一旦完成,将会适用全世界的其他国家。
广播项目测试会在9月1日开始,历时2个月,之后,商业阶段安排在今年末进行。
FIMK是有非盈利组织Krypto FIN ry于7月份发布的加密货币。从芬兰国内和国际共募集533个比特币,约25万欧元,该组织协调和组织FIMK项目和加密货币国民基本收入计划。


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on July 11, 2014, 08:07:55 AM
芬兰的准国家加密货币——FIMK已经和Koodilehto签署了一份合作协议,Koodilehto是一家芬兰软件公司,该协议目标是通过国家电视广播网络实施广播加密货币交易,这个研发项目属于世界首创。
Koodilehto的技术让商户和客户用任何一个标准的数字电视设备和定制软件接收实时P2P网络交易数据,无需连接因特网和移动网络。
广播的交易数据由比特币和FIMK交易数据组成,由芬兰国内地面电视运营商Digita网编码和推送。广播覆盖95%芬兰疆域,500万居民。该技术一旦完成,将会适用全世界的其他国家。
广播项目测试会在9月1日开始,历时2个月,之后,商业阶段安排在今年末进行。
FIMK是有非盈利组织Krypto FIN ry于7月份发布的加密货币。从芬兰国内和国际共募集533个比特币,约25万欧元,该组织协调和组织FIMK项目加密货币国民基本收入计划。


Thanks! Could you guys post that to some of the Chinese speaking forums here on Bitcointalk and elsewhere please?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: chengren on July 11, 2014, 08:10:54 AM
Have posted to Chinese QQ group! ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: illodin on July 11, 2014, 08:47:05 AM
So you can sync your blockchain using TV receiver, but can't send transactions? Or is the signal two-way?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on July 11, 2014, 08:58:40 AM
So you can sync your blockchain using TV receiver, but can't send transactions?
That's right you can only receive and observe transactions using this technology.

The association has planned to develop an SMS payment transmittance system that will complement the radio broadcast and enable simple payments on the counter, usable by those customers in numerous retail business areas that don't use mobile internet connection to pay in crypto.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: chengren on July 11, 2014, 09:21:05 AM
https://github.com/zouppen/bitcoin-broadcast

http://koodilehto.fi/projects/


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: redsquare on July 11, 2014, 09:43:50 AM
Project entry page: http://kryptoradio.koodilehto.fi/


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: qora dan on July 11, 2014, 09:47:46 AM
 FIMK only 700 votes away from 2nd on bter voting list https://bter.com/voting


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: tigomjir on July 11, 2014, 10:00:31 AM
hi dumpers, withdraw those sell orders on dgex. FIMK is going to the moon after BTER listing


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: zhangdu on July 11, 2014, 10:22:37 AM
So you can sync your blockchain using TV receiver, but can't send transactions? Or is the signal two-way?


two-way singal transfer will coming soon.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: casx on July 11, 2014, 11:39:16 AM
is bter always listing the first voted crypto?
or is it just to show them that users are interessted in that coin?

when yes.. how long is this voting running?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: onlinepro on July 11, 2014, 11:43:47 AM
Now is good time to buy before it goes to another exchange, because then price will go up.
If you use my ref link, http://dgex.com/index.htm?13369, I will use all ref bonus I get from you, to buy more fimks so it will go to the moon faster :P



I have 100,000 FIMK on dgex for sell at price 0.000003 btc, some nice guy brought it by every time 100 FIMK, luckily, I sold all my FIMK,
and my DGEX ACC is 0.000000    ;D ;D ;D ;D

I did only one under 100 FIMK buy yesterday.
So it wasn't me, at least not all of them.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: tigomjir on July 11, 2014, 12:11:28 PM
is bter always listing the first voted crypto?
or is it just to show them that users are interessted in that coin?

when yes.. how long is this voting running?

they add the top-voted coin every Monday. Sometimes they add the 2nd voted coin also.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: redsquare on July 11, 2014, 01:09:05 PM
they add the top-voted coin every Monday. Sometimes they add the 2nd voted coin also.
Great!, FIMK is 2nd now!  ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: PilotofBTC on July 11, 2014, 03:40:37 PM
I have 100,000 FIMK on dgex for sell at price 0.000003 btc, some nice guy brought it by every time 100 FIMK, luckily, I sold all my FIMK,
and my DGEX ACC is 0.000000    ;D ;D ;D ;D
1000 small sales? That's clearly a malevolent attack on you and DGEX. If I were you I'd ask the money FIMK / BTC back.

No, he said he sold all his FIMK and is very happy about it. At least, that's how I read it.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: PilotofBTC on July 11, 2014, 03:44:23 PM
I'm curious if there are any numbers on how many Finns have applied for the FIM income stipend? Will that info be published?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: foob6 on July 11, 2014, 03:48:54 PM
the price will break the IPO price,lol


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: zhangdu on July 11, 2014, 03:49:17 PM
I have 100,000 FIMK on dgex for sell at price 0.000003 btc, some nice guy brought it by every time 100 FIMK, luckily, I sold all my FIMK,
and my DGEX ACC is 0.000000    ;D ;D ;D ;D
1000 small sales? That's clearly a malevolent attack on you and DGEX. If I were you I'd ask the money FIMK / BTC back.

No, he said he sold all his FIMK and is very happy about it. At least, that's how I read it.

you are the one got the meaning. :)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: FimKrypto on July 11, 2014, 04:20:03 PM
blockexplorer not working?

We've updated the blockexplorer. A big part of the core is rewritten and it should no longer cause any inconsistencies.
Apart from the reworked core we've added the following.

  • Full text search for accounts, blocks, transactions and aliases
  • JSON API to obtain the total number of coins in circulation http://explorer.fimk.fi/json/total_coins
  • Supports static links to account, block, trans, alias for easy bookmarking/sharing. Example: http://explorer.fimk.fi/accounts/FIM-MRCC-2YLS-8M54-3CMAJ



Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: rriky92 on July 11, 2014, 04:41:07 PM
Really want to try with my RaspberryPi but Java return a segmentation error also with: java -version


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: PilotofBTC on July 11, 2014, 05:13:27 PM
What is the address of the Genesis account with -1 billion coins in it?

It looks like it only has -666,279,798 in it? Where were the balance of the coins created? I expected genesis to be -1 billion and then a holding account for the block bonus and FINN citizen coins somewhere.



Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: PilotofBTC on July 11, 2014, 05:16:55 PM
Is this the correct URI format for an account alias? (the NXT bug on creating an account alias seems to have been carried forward)

acct:73934436533863559090@fimk



Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: FimKrypto on July 11, 2014, 06:59:48 PM
What is the address of the Genesis account with -1 billion coins in it?

It looks like it only has -666,279,798 in it? Where were the balance of the coins created? I expected genesis to be -1 billion and then a holding account for the block bonus and FINN citizen coins somewhere.

This is the Genesis account http://80.240.143.139/accounts/FIM-MRCC-2YLS-8M54-3CMAJ
It has paid only 666 million and not 1 billion because the stakeholders and the Finnish basic income account all received 1/3 of all coins.
The last 1/3 of the coins is paid to forgers from within the protocol over a period of ~4 years.
After 4 years 1 billion FIM will be in circulation, you can follow the current amount in circulation here http://80.240.143.139/json/total_coins


Is this the correct URI format for an account alias? (the NXT bug on creating an account alias seems to have been carried forward)

acct:73934436533863559090@fimk


Yes that is the correct format.
But we fixed that NXT bug in the FIM client https://github.com/fimkrypto/fimk/commit/1e5786abdc94583a0339557525550b9350ed9465
In the FIM client you can register an account alias with your normal RS account number.



Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: PilotofBTC on July 11, 2014, 07:08:04 PM
What is the address of the Genesis account with -1 billion coins in it?

It looks like it only has -666,279,798 in it? Where were the balance of the coins created? I expected genesis to be -1 billion and then a holding account for the block bonus and FINN citizen coins somewhere.

This is the Genesis account http://80.240.143.139/accounts/FIM-MRCC-2YLS-8M54-3CMAJ
It has paid only 666 million and not 1 billion because the stakeholders and the Finnish basic income account all received 1/3 of all coins.
The last 1/3 of the coins is paid to forgers from within the protocol over a period of ~4 years.
After 4 years 1 billion FIM will be in circulation, you can follow the current amount in circulation here http://80.240.143.139/json/total_coins


Is this the correct URI format for an account alias? (the NXT bug on creating an account alias seems to have been carried forward)

acct:73934436533863559090@fimk


Yes that is the correct format.
But we fixed that NXT bug in the FIM client https://github.com/fimkrypto/fimk/commit/1e5786abdc94583a0339557525550b9350ed9465
In the FIM client you can register an account alias with your normal RS account number.



Oh, great. Can I change an alias then to be correct with the RS format. Or it probably doesn't matter?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: FimKrypto on July 11, 2014, 07:11:58 PM
Oh, great. Can I change an alias then to be correct with the RS format. Or it probably doesn't matter?

It doesn't matter since it's a bug in the NXT client only. Internally (in the server part) we still store your account alias by it's number.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: FimKrypto on July 11, 2014, 07:30:26 PM
acct:73934436533863559090@fimk
Yes that is the correct format.

Just noticed the extra K at the end, that's not correct format.
It's acct:73934436533863559090@fim not acct:73934436533863559090@fimk


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: PilotofBTC on July 11, 2014, 07:38:59 PM
acct:73934436533863559090@fimk
Yes that is the correct format.

Just noticed the extra K at the end, that's not correct format.
It's acct:73934436533863559090@fim not acct:73934436533863559090@fimk

Ok thanks... I have decided to move my FIM to a new wallet since DGEX's delete my password function doesn't seem to be working.

Is it possible to transfer the alias?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: PilotofBTC on July 11, 2014, 07:39:40 PM
acct:73934436533863559090@fimk
Yes that is the correct format.

Just noticed the extra K at the end, that's not correct format.
It's acct:73934436533863559090@fim not acct:73934436533863559090@fimk

so, question again. Can I edit the alias to fix it?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: FimKrypto on July 11, 2014, 07:48:53 PM
Ok thanks... I have decided to move my FIM to a new wallet since DGEX's delete my password function doesn't seem to be working.
Is it possible to transfer the alias?

Not yet. But this is planned.
In NXT 1.2 this seems to be implemented.
As stated in the opening post we'll be staying very close to NXT, successful features like alias transfer but also digital goods store and other improvements will find their way into FIM after we had the time to test run those in our own environments, we like to run long tests (weeks) in live environments so that part will probably take the longest before you see any new NXT feature in FIM.

so, question again. Can I edit the alias to fix it?

Yes you can. You can do it from the client probably, but if that doesn't work please let us know.
You can do it manually (JSON API) for sure.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: onlinepro on July 11, 2014, 08:03:36 PM
Amazed the price has not moved today with the announcement.  People just don't get it.  Implications are HUGE.  A wireless Point-of-Sale system using broadcast digital TV signals which covers 95% of Finland???  Finally, a plan to break out of this cryptoworld bubble.

I'll say it only once: Everyone has had opportunity to get FIMK at great prices.  Don't come back here in 6 months whining that we were all 'lucky' or somehow it's unfair.

Get it NOW!

That "A wireless Point-of-Sale system using broadcast digital TV signals" is for Bitcoin too, so why would it make Fim go to moon?
And if you check their website, http://kryptoradio.koodilehto.fi/, you can see it is mostly for Bitcoin.
I'm not saying Fim wouldn't have change to get big, but I doubt that this will be reason for it because Bitcoin is bigger already and it is made for Bitcoin at first place.

PS. Bitcoin is +20$ today, get in before it is too late, this TV signal thing is staring to get it to the moon already!


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: onlinepro on July 11, 2014, 08:17:01 PM
That "A wireless Point-of-Sale system using broadcast digital TV signals" is for Bitcoin too, so why would it make Fim go to moon?
And if you check their website, http://kryptoradio.koodilehto.fi/, you can see it is mostly for Bitcoin.

I'm not saying Fim wouldn't have change to get big, but I doubt that this will be reason for it because Bitcoin is bigger already and it is made for Bitcoin at first place.

Sorry, but Bitcoin is already dead to me.  Is too big for its own good, a lumbering dinosaur that doesn't see the incoming comet of crypto 2.0 (or, if it does, simply can't react fast enough to avoid it).


Too big? Are you that kind of bumper dumber guy?
You get in when coin is small and when it gets big you sell and get into some new small coin?
Why is big bad? Hard to make profit?
And what if Fim goes to mainstream, and gets big? Then you will sell it because big is bad?
And your right, Bitcoin is like big dinosaurs, it just laughs when small alts try to tickle it :P


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: FimKrypto on July 11, 2014, 08:36:24 PM
And, one more thing: I predict FIMK will have network capable of Transparent Forging before NXT.
NXT is still to concentrated and forging strength of the network is weak (and getting weaker with everyone trying 'offline' storage of NXT...).  FIMK's block rewards is the missing ingredient to a strong and healthy network capable of high transaction rates and TF.
Mark my words, we will get there first.  ;)

Not to ruin your party but I don't think it's realistic to believe that FIMKrypto will have the infamous Transparent Forging feature before NXT does.
As soon as the last part of TF is available and it's desirable for FIM (since we already have 30 second blocks) we will embed that in FIM if the community decides so.

NXT is like a train that continues to push forward and has the large community behind it to develop these low level features (just like Bitcoin developed those before that).
FIMKrypto builds on that strong base and adds value and real-life applications of that technology in Finland and beyond.

We are capable developers but just a few (for now) so we will focus on creating features that offer direct value to end users. You can expect improvements to the client (support for mobile) and lighter features like adding encrypted p2p direct messaging (free/off blockchain) to the protocol.
Implementing/Completing TF is extremely resource intensive and probably not the best use of our resources.






Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: onlinepro on July 11, 2014, 08:42:12 PM
Too big? Are you that kind of bumper dumber guy?
You get in when coin is small and when it gets big you sell and get into some new small coin?
Why is big bad? Hard to make profit?
And what if Fim goes to mainstream, and gets big? Then you will sell it because big is bad?

When I say 'big', I talk not about price or network effect.  I talk about technology and resistance to change.

Bitcoin has too much stationary momentum, and can't (or won't) change direction.  That is what I mean by 'too big'.



Can you tell me what is wrong with Bitcoin that is now fixed in Fim?
I do hope all good for Fim because I'm getting them for free every month since I'm Finn, so don't get me wrong and think I hate Fim, I'm just wondering why you hate Bitcoin.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: PilotofBTC on July 11, 2014, 08:44:44 PM
NXT is still too concentrated and forging strength of the network is weak (and getting weaker with everyone trying 'offline' storage of NXT...).

Offline storage doesn't affect forging since you can lease your coins from one account to another.

So, I can run a node on my PC on an account with a very small balance and have my primary balance in "cold storage" (meaning the password is never entered on an online machine) and lease the balance to my id where I run a live node.

FIMK will work the same way, since it is NXT code. I think if any crypto coin is going to go mainstream it needs to be easy to use and highly secure for the average user.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: twistelaar on July 11, 2014, 08:57:56 PM
price predictions for this coin?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: onlinepro on July 11, 2014, 09:00:05 PM
Can you tell me what is wrong with Bitcoin that is now fixed in Fim?

10 minute block time makes unsuitable for many types of transactions.

Reliance on outside forces (miner hashing power) to secure the network.  A large enough entity could destroy Bitcoin for comparatively little cost with 51% hashing power.  Have not seen the math recently, but was in tens of millions of USD last I checked.  Would be peanuts if anyone big ever felt seriously threatened by Bitcoin.

Isn't it even easier to 51% attack with Fim?
Wouldn't it be possible right now? Blocks 16191 and 16192 were made by same person...
If some big account buys more Fims it would be very easy to get multiple blocks in row.

price predictions for this coin?

To the moon, buy this with all your money.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Vega on July 11, 2014, 09:29:11 PM
Isn't it even easier to 51% attack with Fim?
Wouldn't it be possible right now? Blocks 16191 and 16192 were made by same person...
If some big account buys more Fims it would be very easy to get multiple blocks in row.
They would need to buy 325M+ coins.
The price would rise exponentionally as they buy. It would take a hundred or two million USD to accomblish this.


edit: you misunderstand the technology. For a 51% attack they don't need to forge 51% of the blocks, but have to possess 51% of the coins in circulation.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Vega on July 11, 2014, 09:42:29 PM
It looks like price not gonna rise until FIM-8H5A-3CKW-YW4G-7AW9T unloads. Just sent another 2.4 million to dgex, making it 6.7 million total.
(I don't have a problem with it, just making an observation.)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: PilotofBTC on July 11, 2014, 10:10:24 PM
FYI:

I was able to delete my FIMK password from DGEX. Apparently they have a script issue if you try it in Chrome. But, it worked correctly in FireFox.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: chengren on July 11, 2014, 10:48:46 PM
http://www.yibite.com/blog-23482-468.html

introduce FIMK new update


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: PilotofBTC on July 11, 2014, 10:54:59 PM
http://www.yibite.com/blog-23482-468.html

introduce FIMK new update

Any details on how this works. Since it is one way? Is there one channel that the full blockchain will be transmitted on over and over, and another that will just send updates? So, you listen to one, get the full block chain, then listen to the other for updates?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: cmason22 on July 12, 2014, 12:40:14 AM
FYI:

I was able to delete my FIMK password from DGEX. Apparently they have a script issue if you try it in Chrome. But, it worked correctly in FireFox.


thank you for this info!  i was trying to delete my passphrase multiple times and getting frustrated.  ffox did the trick.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Primitive on July 12, 2014, 01:31:54 AM
Am I on a fork?

I'm stuck 80 blocks behind and dont seem to be catching up.  I just stay 80 behind.  Also my balance and forging are reading higher than the reporting at the Fimk blockchain site

Any thoughts on this behavior?

Thanks


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: PilotofBTC on July 12, 2014, 01:49:12 AM
Am I on a fork?

I'm stuck 80 blocks behind and dont seem to be catching up.  I just stay 80 behind.  Also my balance and forging are reading higher than the reporting at the Fimk blockchain site

Any thoughts on this behavior?

Thanks

What was your last block, and what id was the generator?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Primitive on July 12, 2014, 01:51:28 AM
it is still generating blocks.  and as i look at it, it is actually catching up, just insanely slowly.  now i'm about 75 blocks behind.  so it gains a block every few mins.  seems like that isnt synching right.  perhaps i'll restart my machine and the console.

im at block 16539 as of this writing, about 75 blocks back.

edit:  16539 ID: 14799672264195579729

i also did a small test transaction to another FIM account i have. that transaction DID show up in the live blockchain, so i think thats a good sign?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on July 12, 2014, 01:54:00 AM
Any details on how this works. Since it is one way? Is there one channel that the full blockchain will be transmitted on over and over, and another that will just send updates? So, you listen to one, get the full block chain, then listen to the other for updates?
Full blockchain is not going to be transmitted at least not in the test phase that has low bandwidth. Just new transactions after the receiving node has been loaded with the blockchain through another way. How this is going to be synced is the technical partner's cup of tea.

Quote
And if you check their website, http://kryptoradio.koodilehto.fi/, you can see it is mostly for Bitcoin.
Not really. They started with bitcoin which is their major interest technically, so the site was written for that before we came in. But they are tech people less interested in pushing the bitcoin side anywhere. And you know the tech itself isn't just going to be picked up by the benevolent aliens. FIMKrypto on the other hand has great ambitions to push application of the system, so Bitcoin will benefit from our efforts as well.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: PilotofBTC on July 12, 2014, 01:54:55 AM
it is still generating blocks.  and as i look at it, it is actually catching up, just insanely slowly.  now i'm about 75 blocks behind.  so it gains a block every few mins.  seems like that isnt synching right.  perhaps i'll restart my machine and the console.

im at block 16539 as of this writing, about 75 blocks back.

edit:  16539 ID: 14799672264195579729

i also did a small test transaction to another FIM account i have. that transaction DID show up in the live blockchain, so i think thats a good sign?

Sounds like you are fine. Are you having network issues?

Yea, restarting the server won't hurt.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Primitive on July 12, 2014, 01:56:19 AM
Sounds like you are fine. Are you having network issues?

i hadnt thought so, but perhaps.

Yea, restarting the server won't hurt.

will do.  thanks!


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: lovely89 on July 12, 2014, 05:44:06 AM
FIMK is on coinmarketcap! Just number 366, because it hasn't got the total supply yet. :/


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: redsquare on July 12, 2014, 06:08:39 AM
FIMK is on coinmarketcap! Just number 366, because it hasn't got the total supply yet. :/
I provided them the right call, the numbers are there now:

38    FIMKrypto    FIMK    € 634.872    € 0.001780    356,659,000 *    € 4.127   


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: lovely89 on July 12, 2014, 06:57:02 AM
Thanks, I noticed straight after I posted that the supply was displayed.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: dance on July 12, 2014, 07:09:48 AM
Amazed the price has not moved today with the announcement.  People just don't get it.  Implications are HUGE.  A wireless Point-of-Sale system using broadcast digital TV signals which covers 95% of Finland???  Finally, a plan to break out of this cryptoworld bubble.

I'll say it only once: Everyone has had opportunity to get FIMK at great prices.  Don't come back here in 6 months whining that we were all 'lucky' or somehow it's unfair.

Get it NOW!
I would have agreed with you at first, but (don't take it as fud) article tells about broadcasting transactions, not making a `point-of-sale` yet. Plus it tells about bitcoin + fimk, not just fimk. Plus, as I read yesterday, there is a law in Finland which provides every citizen with 1mb internet channel. So it is like everyone in Finland is `connected`. So I don't fully understand the reason for TV broadcasting of crypto transactions.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: dance on July 12, 2014, 07:17:36 AM
Can you tell me what is wrong with Bitcoin that is now fixed in Fim?
I do hope all good for Fim because I'm getting them for free every month since I'm Finn, so don't get me wrong and think I hate Fim, I'm just wondering why you hate Bitcoin.
Bitcoin is PoW. That could be a problem for it that couldn't be solved. But most of the people(including me) can't predict it for sure.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: teletobi on July 12, 2014, 07:18:00 AM
FIMK is on coinmarketcap! Just number 366, because it hasn't got the total supply yet. :/
I provided them the right call, the numbers are there now:

38    FIMKrypto    FIMK    € 634.872    € 0.001780    356,659,000 *    € 4.127    

+2880

very nice!


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: dance on July 12, 2014, 07:26:49 AM

Isn't it even easier to 51% attack with Fim?
Wouldn't it be possible right now? Blocks 16191 and 16192 were made by same person...
If some big account buys more Fims it would be very easy to get multiple blocks in row.
Well, just at the moment, it is impossible to buy 51% of Fimk. Just because amount of offerings is less than even 10%. In future - yes, but it is most probable that to buy 51% you will have to pay >100% of total price. So holders will not suffer from it :)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: dance on July 12, 2014, 07:32:05 AM
why some people do not want FIMK exchanged on bter. 563 down-vote. ???
For nearest pretenders it is cheaper to down-vote a competitor than to up-vote themselves.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: xibeijan on July 12, 2014, 12:40:36 PM
Amazed the price has not moved today with the announcement.  People just don't get it.  Implications are HUGE.  A wireless Point-of-Sale system using broadcast digital TV signals which covers 95% of Finland???  Finally, a plan to break out of this cryptoworld bubble.

I'll say it only once: Everyone has had opportunity to get FIMK at great prices.  Don't come back here in 6 months whining that we were all 'lucky' or somehow it's unfair.

Get it NOW!
I would have agreed with you at first, but (don't take it as fud) article tells about broadcasting transactions, not making a `point-of-sale` yet. Plus it tells about bitcoin + fimk, not just fimk. Plus, as I read yesterday, there is a law in Finland which provides every citizen with 1mb internet channel. So it is like everyone in Finland is `connected`. So I don't fully understand the reason for TV broadcasting of crypto transactions.

I think this is a beautiful piece of engineering.  Blockchain is disseminated (payments received) via radio broadcast to millions without internet.  Payments can be made via mobile/callphone SMS/TXT messages and a custom app.

This could really help FIM adoption in places like Africa where the Internet infrastructure is limited yet cryptocurrency is most useful.

This strategic alliance between FIM and Kryptoradio is very synergistic with the 100 FIM / month paid to Finnish citizens.  Overall this latest development is very innovative and has boosted my confidence about the FIM developers and organisers.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: FimKrypto on July 12, 2014, 04:09:21 PM
There was some confusion among forgers suddenly forging less blocks than expected.
For these people (and others) we've added a stats page to the blockexplorer that shows what account forged how many blocks in a period.

http://explorer.fimk.fi/blocks/stats/0/0 (http://explorer.fimk.fi/blocks/stats/0/0)

If you are suddenly forging less blocks than expected/normal it is advised to delete your blockchain and restart the FIM client.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: PilotofBTC on July 12, 2014, 05:18:58 PM
There was some confusion among forgers suddenly forging less blocks than expected.
For these people (and others) we've added a stats page to the blockexplorer that shows what account forged how many blocks in a period.

http://explorer.fimk.fi/blocks/stats/0/0 (http://explorer.fimk.fi/blocks/stats/0/0)

If you are suddenly forging less blocks than expected/normal it is advised to delete your blockchain and restart the FIM client.

Yea, I forged a block last night.

Is there a forging calculator available?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: vincentvincent on July 12, 2014, 05:51:04 PM
I also see that I furge not so many blocks anymore. I was able to forge 4 blocks (800 FIM) in the first 6500 blocks or so: and I only have about 25k FIM.

After that I wasn't Lucky anymore! No more forged blocks for me? How come? ???


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: FimKrypto on July 12, 2014, 06:05:58 PM
I also see that I furge not so many blocks anymore. I was able to forge 4 blocks (800 FIM) in the first 6500 blocks or so: and I only have about 25k FIM.

After that I wasn't Lucky anymore! No more forged blocks for me? How come? ???

When you started forging the total amount of stake was much lower. If you look at the current stats (http://80.240.143.139/blocks/stats/0/0) you'll see one account with 16K forged a block in the past 2880 blocks, all other forgers have a stake starting at 30/50K and higher.

Eventually you'll forge a block but with 25K it will take longer.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Primitive on July 12, 2014, 07:01:59 PM
i may be interested in buying large blocks of FIM at IPO price.  if anyone is interested in selling please send me a PM.  because of low volume on DGEX it isnt really possible to sell large amounts, so this is an option.  so if you are interested in dumping your IPO coins, let me know.  1,000,000 FIM minimum.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: jztxeno on July 12, 2014, 07:16:55 PM
i may be interested in buying large blocks of FIM at IPO price.  if anyone is interested in selling please send me a PM.  because of low volume on DGEX it isnt really possible to sell large amounts, so this is an option.  so if you are interested in dumping your IPO coins, let me know.  1,000,000 FIM minimum.

nice try to get some coins for a low price but won't happen mate ;) You are to late to the party, buy now or never.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Primitive on July 12, 2014, 07:18:07 PM

nice try to get some coins for a low price but won't happen mate ;) You are to late to the party, buy now or never.

i already have a ton of FIM.  just looking for more off-market.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: jztxeno on July 12, 2014, 07:21:23 PM

nice try to get some coins for a low price but won't happen mate ;) You are to late to the party, buy now or never.

i already have a ton of FIM.  just looking for more off-market.

I don't think any will sell at IPO price mate


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Primitive on July 12, 2014, 07:22:33 PM
I don't think any will sell at IPO price mate

thanks mate


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: dance on July 12, 2014, 07:24:25 PM

nice try to get some coins for a low price but won't happen mate ;) You are to late to the party, buy now or never.

i already have a ton of FIM.  just looking for more off-market.
I think your only chance is to get Finnish citizenship ASAP and start receiving 100/month payment :)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: jztxeno on July 12, 2014, 07:24:30 PM
I don't think any will sell at IPO price mate

thanks mate

np mate


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: quiglag on July 12, 2014, 09:00:12 PM
There was some confusion among forgers suddenly forging less blocks than expected.
For these people (and others) we've added a stats page to the blockexplorer that shows what account forged how many blocks in a period.

http://explorer.fimk.fi/blocks/stats/0/0 (http://explorer.fimk.fi/blocks/stats/0/0)

If you are suddenly forging less blocks than expected/normal it is advised to delete your blockchain and restart the FIM client.

Where is the blockchain file located?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Victorius on July 12, 2014, 09:28:41 PM
Are you guys satisfied with the name of the coin? Cant imaging it, everyday use in language.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: xibeijan on July 12, 2014, 09:32:21 PM
Are you guys satisfied with the name of the coin? Cant imaging it, everyday use in language.

needs improvement


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: quiglag on July 12, 2014, 10:01:59 PM
If you are suddenly forging less blocks than expected/normal it is advised to delete your blockchain and restart the FIM client.
Where is the blockchain file located?

Delete the 'fim_db' folder and restart.

Thanks


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: casx on July 13, 2014, 11:45:06 AM
keep on voting on bter !


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: tyz on July 13, 2014, 01:18:32 PM
FIMK public wallet/node 1 (Secured HTTPS Connection) -> offline
FIMK public wallet/node 2 -> offline
Blockexplorer AND (Fully Automated Test Environment) -> offline
Faucet (Play around on our public nodes with free (test) FIMK) -> offline

Can someone repair the links?  ???


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: jztxeno on July 13, 2014, 01:29:52 PM
FIMK public wallet/node 1 (Secured HTTPS Connection) -> offline
FIMK public wallet/node 2 -> offline
Blockexplorer AND (Fully Automated Test Environment) -> offline
Faucet (Play around on our public nodes with free (test) FIMK) -> offline

Can someone repair the links?  ???

Block explorer: http://80.240.143.139/


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: FimKrypto on July 13, 2014, 02:10:56 PM
FIMK public wallet/node 1 (Secured HTTPS Connection) -> offline
FIMK public wallet/node 2 -> offline
Blockexplorer AND (Fully Automated Test Environment) -> offline
Faucet (Play around on our public nodes with free (test) FIMK) -> offline

Can someone repair the links?  ???

FIMK public wallet/node 1 (Secured HTTPS Connection) -> https://wallet.fimk.fi:7886/
FIMK public wallet/node 2 -> offline this one stays offline, the FIMKrypto Fin ry organization now runs a set of permanent FIM servers.
Blockexplorer -> Permanent address: http://explorer.fimk.fi  (forwards to http://80.240.143.139/)

We will repair the links, thanks for pointing this out.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: vincentvincent on July 13, 2014, 05:24:37 PM
I also see that I furge not so many blocks anymore. I was able to forge 4 blocks (800 FIM) in the first 6500 blocks or so: and I only have about 25k FIM.

After that I wasn't Lucky anymore! No more forged blocks for me? How come? ???

When you started forging the total amount of stake was much lower. If you look at the current stats (http://80.240.143.139/blocks/stats/0/0) you'll see one account with 16K forged a block in the past 2880 blocks, all other forgers have a stake starting at 30/50K and higher.

Eventually you'll forge a block but with 25K it will take longer.

You where right! I forged another block ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: yabit on July 13, 2014, 06:36:40 PM
Just started with FIMKrypto and bought some coins on dgex. Now I have problems to withdraw the coins. Maybe it's the same problem I had with NXT and NTX: it was not possible to use a faucet or withdraw from exchange with a brand new account.

If you read this: Please be so so kind and sent me a small amont of FIMK to fund my account:

18222688217663051298

Many thanks !!!


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: dance on July 13, 2014, 06:46:41 PM
Just started with FIMKrypto and bought some coins on dgex. Now I have problems to withdraw the coins. Maybe it's the same problem I had with NXT and NTX: it was not possible to use a faucet a withdraw from exchange with a brand new account.

If you read this: Please be so so kind and sent me a small amont of FIMK to fund my account:

18222688217663051298

Many thanks !!!
Sent 10 FIM.
You can also use a faucet: http://jaft.tk/faucet/


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: yabit on July 13, 2014, 06:53:00 PM
Just started with FIMKrypto and bought some coins on dgex. Now I have problems to withdraw the coins. Maybe it's the same problem I had with NXT and NTX: it was not possible to use a faucet a withdraw from exchange with a brand new account.

If you read this: Please be so so kind and sent me a small amont of FIMK to fund my account:

18222688217663051298

Many thanks !!!
Sent 10 FIM.
You can also use a faucet: http://jaft.tk/faucet/

Received, thanks again dance !


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: dance on July 13, 2014, 06:54:33 PM
Received, thanks again dance !
You are welcome


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: xibeijan on July 13, 2014, 07:32:25 PM
Received, thanks again dance !
You are welcome

Nice community


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: frajervitalny on July 13, 2014, 09:02:24 PM
I would like to get in, is Dgex best possibility right now?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: redsquare on July 13, 2014, 09:31:34 PM
I would like to get in, is Dgex best possibility right now?
Right now it's the only way to get in... >:(

Only 2316 votes to go for 1st place! Keep on voting people! (https://bter.com/voting)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: PilotofBTC on July 13, 2014, 09:31:51 PM
I would like to get in, is Dgex best possibility right now?

Either that or OTC. Although, I'm not sure if an OTC thread has been started.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Primitive on July 13, 2014, 10:05:55 PM
I would like to get in, is Dgex best possibility right now?

best bet probably DGEX, but the volume isn't very large at the moment so its hard to accumulate much without having to eat way up on prices

edit:  my DGEX ->  http://dgex.com/index.htm?1446


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Primitive on July 13, 2014, 11:11:51 PM
If i move coins to a new wallet, do they have to wait 1440 blocks before forging?  or was that restriction just for the genesis dgex coins?

EDIT:  I actually created the new wallet i want to move the coins into a few thousand blocks ago (and did a couple transactions from that wallet)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: PilotofBTC on July 13, 2014, 11:23:39 PM
If i move coins to a new wallet, do they have to wait 1440 blocks before forging?  or was that restriction just for the genesis dgex coins?

EDIT:  I actually created the new wallet i want to move the coins into a few thousand blocks ago (and did a couple transactions from that wallet)

Yes, you will have to wait for 1440 confirms before moved coins will forge.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Primitive on July 13, 2014, 11:25:25 PM

Yes, you will have to wait for 1440 confirms before moved coins will forge.


bummer.  i dont feel like my dgex-created wallet provides adequate safety for my coins.

but i dont really want to sit out for 24 hours of forging.

altcoinproblems.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: PilotofBTC on July 13, 2014, 11:40:23 PM

Yes, you will have to wait for 1440 confirms before moved coins will forge.


bummer.  i dont feel like my dgex-created wallet provides adequate safety for my coins.

but i dont really want to sit out for 24 hours of forging.

altcoinproblems.

decisions decisions.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Primitive on July 13, 2014, 11:43:46 PM
screw it, im moving the coins.  forge-schmorge.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: PilotofBTC on July 13, 2014, 11:45:30 PM
screw it, im moving the coins.  forge-schmorge.

Yep, better to do it now will 200 coins are only worth about $.40 US.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: qtgwith on July 14, 2014, 02:25:37 AM
I want to sell 0.8million FIMK. each@0.000003BTC
Since the withdraw of dgex is very slow, I want to trade with somebody.Thus you can quickly get FIMK to forge and I can quickly get BTC.
Anyone has interest? You first or we can trade many times with little amount each time.

Only 2 days. I will stop the sell if nobody buy before 7/16.

PM me if interested.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Primitive on July 14, 2014, 02:43:10 AM
I want to sell 0.8million FIMK. each@0.000003BTC
Since the withdraw of dgex is very slow, I want to trade with somebody.Thus you can quickly get FIMK to forge and I can quickly get BTC.
Anyone has interest? You first or we can trade many times with little amount each time.

Only 2 days. I will stop the sell if nobody buy before 7/16.

PM me if interested.

actually, a half million shares just traded (single trade) on DGEX at .000003 so you might be able to sell them there.  of course you'd need them to be on that exchange first.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: qtgwith on July 14, 2014, 02:45:16 AM
I want to sell 0.8million FIMK. each@0.000003BTC
Since the withdraw of dgex is very slow, I want to trade with somebody.Thus you can quickly get FIMK to forge and I can quickly get BTC.
Anyone has interest? You first or we can trade many times with little amount each time.

Only 2 days. I will stop the sell if nobody buy before 7/16.

PM me if interested.

actually, a half million shares just traded (single trade) on DGEX at .000003 so you might be able to sell them there.  of course you'd need them to be on that exchange first.

Withdraw of DGEX is very slow. I need some BTC in two days.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Primitive on July 14, 2014, 02:48:39 AM


Withdraw of DGEX is very slow. I need some BTC in two days.



true.  i got FIMK out of DGEX in 24 hours, which i guess isn't too bad.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: qtgwith on July 14, 2014, 02:51:31 AM


Withdraw of DGEX is very slow. I need some BTC in two days.



true.  i got FIMK out of DGEX in 24 hours, which i guess isn't too bad.

BTC withdraw is very slow. My some BTC withdraw is still pending for 6 days!


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Musent on July 14, 2014, 02:57:00 AM
This on Dgex.com yet?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Primitive on July 14, 2014, 02:59:55 AM
This on Dgex.com yet?

yes, since the launch.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Simakki on July 14, 2014, 12:15:01 PM
This on Dgex.com yet?

yes, since the launch.

We need have more exchanges involved. Price is in decline and coinmarketcap place doesnt really look promising.

I would like to see some strategy map about future development.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: qora dan on July 14, 2014, 12:47:06 PM
Any idea on when and if it might go on bter, I know its 2nd on the voting list but maybe they can add the top 2


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on July 14, 2014, 01:06:32 PM
We need have more exchanges involved. Price is in decline and coinmarketcap place doesnt really look promising.

I would like to see some strategy map about future development.
Coinmarketcap position and exchange rate have very little to do with measuring success at this stage. You shouldn't evaluate the circumstances based on the hour-by-hour exchange rate. It's a very common fallacy in the financial markets that prevents you from actually seeing the big picture and concentrating into the right things.

Lowering of exchange rate was expected due to initial dumping of millions of FIM for quick (and quite nice) profit taking in relatively low liquidity markets.

More exchanges at this stage are insignificant. Although it looks like BTER will list FIMK soon. Don't be disappointed if that doesn't make you millionaire overnight (= nothing will likely happen).

Development and coordination is happening daily and will be brought to the public community in due time.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Simakki on July 14, 2014, 01:09:51 PM
We need have more exchanges involved. Price is in decline and coinmarketcap place doesnt really look promising.

I would like to see some strategy map about future development.
Coinmarketcap position and exchange rate have very little to do with measuring success at this stage. You shouldn't evaluate the circumstances based on the hour-by-hour exchange rate. It's a very common fallacy in the financial markets that prevents you from actually seeing the big picture and concentrating into the right things.

Lowering of exchange rate was expected due to initial dumping of millions of FIM for quick (and quite nice) profit taking in relatively low liquidity markets.

More exchanges at this stage are insignificant. Although it looks like BTER will list FIMK soon. Don't be disappointed if that doesn't make you millionaire overnight (= nothing will likely happen).

Development and coordination is happening daily and will be brought to the public community in due time.

Thx for the update!


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: perado on July 14, 2014, 05:41:13 PM
This coin seems to be hot right now,I'l keep an eye on it :P


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: rriky92 on July 14, 2014, 07:31:34 PM
There is a bug in Recent Transaction for alias registering and Account information:

http://i.imgur.com/AgXuxGO.png

as you can see the alignment is wrong (OS X Safari, FIM Wallet 0.2.2)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: qtgwith on July 14, 2014, 09:45:29 PM
Hello all,


I need your help in community.I withdrawal some BTC from dgex. But the BTC withdrawal is pending for almost a week.
I sent them three mails,but no any response. The mail address: admin@dgex.com and support@dgex.com.

I am anxious I will lost my money in dgex. No any response,so horrible!
Can anyone give me a contact way with dgex? And give me some help or advise.

Thanks.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Primitive on July 14, 2014, 09:48:40 PM
Hello all,


I need your help in community.I withdrawal some BTC from dgex. But the BTC withdrawal is pending for almost a week.
I sent them three mails,but no any response. The mail address: admin@dgex.com and support@dgex.com.

I am anxious I will lost my money in dgex. No any response,so horrible!
Can anyone give me a contact way with dgex?

Thanks.

ive seen other people talk about slow withdrawals, although i've never had a problem.

you might consider posting over at nextcoin.org.  Graviton, who operates DGEX, is pretty good about replying to these kinds of issues.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: qtgwith on July 14, 2014, 10:19:00 PM
Hello all,


I need your help in community.I withdrawal some BTC from dgex. But the BTC withdrawal is pending for almost a week.
I sent them three mails,but no any response. The mail address: admin@dgex.com and support@dgex.com.

I am anxious I will lost my money in dgex. No any response,so horrible!
Can anyone give me a contact way with dgex?

Thanks.

ive seen other people talk about slow withdrawals, although i've never had a problem.

you might consider posting over at nextcoin.org.  Graviton, who operates DGEX, is pretty good about replying to these kinds of issues.

Thanks.I have PM Graviton in nxtforum.org. I am waiting his response.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: dance on July 15, 2014, 06:05:41 AM
Hello all,


I need your help in community.I withdrawal some BTC from dgex. But the BTC withdrawal is pending for almost a week.
I sent them three mails,but no any response. The mail address: admin@dgex.com and support@dgex.com.

I am anxious I will lost my money in dgex. No any response,so horrible!
Can anyone give me a contact way with dgex?

Thanks.

ive seen other people talk about slow withdrawals, although i've never had a problem.

you might consider posting over at nextcoin.org.  Graviton, who operates DGEX, is pretty good about replying to these kinds of issues.

Thanks.I have PM Graviton in nxtforum.org. I am waiting his response.
Make a public post on nextcoin.org also.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: coin_worker on July 15, 2014, 02:00:40 PM
I like this cryptocurrency-by-air pilot project! Just startet with FIM, brand new account. Maybe someone from this nice community can fund it with some coins.

My account ID is: 1788557879255925091

Is there a second exchange to buy some coins (don't like dgex) ? Where can I vote for FIM to hit another exchanges?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: dance on July 15, 2014, 02:07:38 PM
I like this cryptocurrency-by-air pilot project! Just startet with FIM, brand new account. Maybe someone from this nice community can fund it with some coins.

My account ID is: 1788557879255925091

Is there a second exchange to buy some coins (don't like dgex) ? Where can I vote for FIM to hit another exchanges?
Sent 10 FIM. There is a FIM faucet: http://jaft.tk/faucet/
FIMK is close to the first place on BTER voting list: https://bter.com/voting


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: coin_worker on July 15, 2014, 02:16:43 PM
I like this cryptocurrency-by-air pilot project! Just startet with FIM, brand new account. Maybe someone from this nice community can fund it with some coins.

My account ID is: 1788557879255925091

Is there a second exchange to buy some coins (don't like dgex) ? Where can I vote for FIM to hit another exchanges?
Sent 10 FIM. There is a FIM faucet: http://jaft.tk/faucet/
FIMK is close to the first place on BTER voting list: https://bter.com/voting

Thank you very much for help, dance. I will vote on BTER and hope that I can buy FIM there soon ...


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: onlinepro on July 15, 2014, 06:14:23 PM
I like this cryptocurrency-by-air pilot project! Just startet with FIM, brand new account. Maybe someone from this nice community can fund it with some coins.

My account ID is: 1788557879255925091

Is there a second exchange to buy some coins (don't like dgex) ? Where can I vote for FIM to hit another exchanges?
Sent 10 FIM. There is a FIM faucet: http://jaft.tk/faucet/
FIMK is close to the first place on BTER voting list: https://bter.com/voting

Faucet isn't working  ???
Page won't load at all...


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Hermann1337 on July 15, 2014, 06:16:25 PM
Hi!

I have some essential questions.

I have the javaclient running on win and created a new wallet via localhost in browser and have now some FIMK in my wallet.
When i close the java client by shutting down my pc my wallet will be lost? Is it safed somewhere?

Gz


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: dance on July 15, 2014, 06:27:38 PM

Faucet isn't working  ???
Page won't load at all...
Was working few hours ago. Don't know what happened.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Hermann1337 on July 15, 2014, 06:31:38 PM
I have the javaclient running on win and created a new wallet via localhost in browser and have now some FIMK in my wallet.
When i close the java client by shutting down my pc my wallet will be lost? Is it safed somewhere?

The account balance is saved in the blockchain.  You can open the wallet on any computer and enter the account passphrase to access the account.  This also means your passphrase must be very very secure.


so the passphrase is not my automatically generated secret phrase?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: dance on July 15, 2014, 06:33:31 PM
Hi!

I have some essential questions.

I have the javaclient running on win and created a new wallet via localhost in browser and have now some FIMK in my wallet.
When i close the java client by shutting down my pc my wallet will be lost? Is it safed somewhere?

Gz
If you have some coins in your wallet that means that everyone on the network have stored a prove about that, so every time you will open your wallet using your passphrase you will see your coins.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Hermann1337 on July 15, 2014, 06:35:07 PM
ok so the automaticaly generated secret phrase is my passphrase


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: dance on July 15, 2014, 06:38:53 PM
I have the javaclient running on win and created a new wallet via localhost in browser and have now some FIMK in my wallet.
When i close the java client by shutting down my pc my wallet will be lost? Is it safed somewhere?

The account balance is saved in the blockchain.  You can open the wallet on any computer and enter the account passphrase to access the account.  This also means your passphrase must be very very secure.


so the passphrase is not my automatically generated secret phrase?Y
It is. It could be a manually generated too. The key is - only you know it, and it so hard, that to find it billions of years are required.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Hermann1337 on July 15, 2014, 06:40:24 PM
very nice :)

thxs for your fast replys. feeling safe now


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Hermann1337 on July 15, 2014, 08:04:11 PM
can someone tell me how many confirmations are needed to confirm balance?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: PilotofBTC on July 15, 2014, 08:29:45 PM
ok so the automaticaly generated secret phrase is my passphrase

Yes, it is a brain wallet. There is no local wallet file needed. Just your password/secret phrase gives access to your funds.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: PilotofBTC on July 15, 2014, 08:31:14 PM
can someone tell me how many confirmations are needed to confirm balance?

It won't show as "effective balance" until 1440 confirms. But, after 1 confirm you are pretty safe. After 10, probably VERY VERY safe.

Make sure to do at lest one spend (register an alias) to secure your account with a public key. This is very important.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Hermann1337 on July 15, 2014, 08:37:35 PM
can someone tell me how many confirmations are needed to confirm balance?

It won't show as "effective balance" until 1440 confirms. But, after 1 confirm you are pretty safe. After 10, probably VERY VERY safe.

Make sure to do at lest one spend (register an alias) to secure your account with a public key. This is very important.

did one transaction and a pub key is shown. so i think im safe


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: teletobi on July 15, 2014, 11:07:20 PM
Can someone explain me what for the public key / transaction is needed to secure the Account?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: qora dan on July 16, 2014, 10:43:24 AM
https://www.usecryptos.com/voting vote FIMK on another exchange

ITS FREE TO VOTE


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: poon4 on July 16, 2014, 01:16:17 PM
how about the coin price now?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: onlinepro on July 16, 2014, 01:17:31 PM
how about the coin price now?

You can always check it yourself: https://dgex.com/trading.cgi?acro=FIMK


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Simakki on July 16, 2014, 01:51:44 PM
how about the coin price now?

You can always check it yourself: https://dgex.com/trading.cgi?acro=FIMK

Someone has to be dumping coins at the moment, no way that FIMK belong to the 40th place in Coinmarketcap.

IMO market cap should be high enough to bring interesting in Finland, otherwise i dont see many takin part of planned distribution.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: qora dan on July 16, 2014, 02:25:44 PM
when does bter add new coins to market


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Market6677 on July 16, 2014, 03:02:25 PM
haha 100 FIMK für jeden Finnen die kommen sich doch verarscht vor  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Und hier gab es 100k für nen hunni ...  lieber schnell verkaufen und gewinn mitnehmen.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Hermann1337 on July 16, 2014, 03:31:43 PM
someone can tell me how long it takes until my guaranteed balance will get to effective balance?
i have 1440+ confirmations on my account balance but cant forge atm...


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: PilotofBTC on July 16, 2014, 03:34:01 PM
someone can tell me how long it takes until my guaranteed balance will get to effective balance?
i have 1440+ confirmations on my account balance but cant forge atm...

Do you have any transactions at less than 1440 confirms?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Hermann1337 on July 16, 2014, 03:41:57 PM
someone can tell me how long it takes until my guaranteed balance will get to effective balance?
i have 1440+ confirmations on my account balance but cant forge atm...

Do you have any transactions at less than 1440 confirms?

nope all 1440+


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: altcoin4u on July 16, 2014, 03:44:35 PM
Also with 1440+ confirmation. No effective balance. Unable to forge?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: PilotofBTC on July 16, 2014, 03:45:18 PM
Also with 1440+ confirmation. No effective balance. Unable to forge?

Did you click on the "not forging" item in the wallet and tell it to forge?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: quasimodo on July 16, 2014, 03:52:59 PM
someone can tell me how long it takes until my guaranteed balance will get to effective balance?
i have 1440+ confirmations on my account balance but cant forge atm...

I believe you need 1440 confirmations on a outgoing transaction.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: teletobi on July 16, 2014, 04:01:48 PM
Also with 1440+ confirmation. No effective balance. Unable to forge?

Wasn´t it 2880 (approx. 1 Day) for FIM, 1440 for NXT?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Hermann1337 on July 16, 2014, 04:12:35 PM
Ok guys. i waited some mins and now its working fine!


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Hermann1337 on July 16, 2014, 08:08:26 PM
i ve been forging now for several hours.
how long does it take until payouts start?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Primitive on July 16, 2014, 08:10:28 PM
i ve been forging now for several hours.
how long does it take until payouts start?

depends entirely on what your effective balance is.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: PilotofBTC on July 16, 2014, 08:18:09 PM
i ve been forging now for several hours.
how long does it take until payouts start?

There aren't "payouts". If you forge a block you will get any tx fees in the block and a block reward, which is currently 200 FIM.

Don't you see a time estimate on your Forge box on the dashboard? That estiamtes how long until you forge a block. But, it's an ESTIMATE, so don't 100% expect it.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Primitive on July 16, 2014, 08:20:02 PM
FYI if you have not heard yet, DGEX was hacked today and some BTC and NXT were stolen.

FIMK was not affected.

more info:
https://nxtforum.org/trading-exchanges/dgex-hacked-for-52-btc-1-2m-nxt/


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: btler420 on July 16, 2014, 08:34:10 PM
FYI if you have not heard yet, DGEX was hacked today and some BTC and NXT were stolen.

FIMK was not affected.

more info:
https://nxtforum.org/trading-exchanges/dgex-hacked-for-52-btc-1-2m-nxt/

Users are not affected since it was "only" his own BTC and NXT.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Market6677 on July 16, 2014, 09:59:49 PM
haha and now NO EXCHANGE for FIMK good start!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Primitive on July 16, 2014, 10:01:14 PM
haha and now NO EXCHANGE for FIMK good start!!!!!!!!!!!


^ ignore list


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: illodin on July 17, 2014, 12:47:02 AM
Strange that I used to forge 5 blocks a day, and now I haven't forged anything for a week.  ???


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Primitive on July 17, 2014, 12:49:14 AM
Strange that I used to forge 5 blocks a day, and now I haven't forged anything for a week.  ???

yes, that is strange. has your balance changed?   have you moved coins between accounts?  also, you are only now posting, even though you haven't forged for a week???


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: onlinepro on July 17, 2014, 12:40:42 PM
So someone have hacked Dgex now...
But we probably get our Fims back from there since only NXT and Btc were stolen?
I'm so worried about my 350 Fims :P


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: stereotype on July 17, 2014, 12:49:37 PM
So someone have hacked Dgex now...
But we probably get our Fims back from there since only NXT and Btc were stolen?
I'm so worried about my 350 Fims :P
Your Fims are still yours. All loses are covered.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: illodin on July 17, 2014, 01:47:52 PM
Strange that I used to forge 5 blocks a day, and now I haven't forged anything for a week.  ???

yes, that is strange. has your balance changed?   have you moved coins between accounts?  also, you are only now posting, even though you haven't forged for a week???

Hi, the balance (or forged balance) did not change, and I hadn't moved coins anywhere. I posted now because I didn't check it every day, and I didn't notice anything at first, only after looking the forged block timestamps.

What I did (after I had posted my question ~12 hours ago), was that I manually stopped forging, and started it again - and now I've already forged 2 blocks. Dunno what had happened, but it's all ok now.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Hermann1337 on July 17, 2014, 01:57:34 PM
is my balance of 30k FIMK to low for forging?
Forging for days now and no income


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: illodin on July 17, 2014, 02:04:10 PM
is my balance of 30k FIMK to low for forging?
Forging for days now and no income

I have 20x that amount, and forge maybe 5 blocks a day... so if you're as lucky (or unlucky, no idea) as I am, you should forge a block every 4-5 days on average.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Hermann1337 on July 17, 2014, 02:08:10 PM
im very sad i missed that Genesis block stakeholder funding at 1. july!

Very sad :(

so lets wait and see if there will be some coins forged :):):):)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Market6677 on July 17, 2014, 03:12:36 PM
i sell 300 k for 3 BTC oder für Hermann für 1200 Euronen  ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Primitive on July 17, 2014, 06:57:58 PM
Since there is no active exchange at the moment, I would be willing to sell small amounts of FIM to any newbies who want to get started.

PM me for details.  Small trades only.

EDIT:  price would be 0.00000325, which was the last trade at DGEX


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: PilotofBTC on July 17, 2014, 06:59:55 PM
Since there is no active exchange at the moment, I would be willing to sell small amounts of FIM to any newbies who want to get started.

PM me for details.  Small trades only.

Is there a faucet somewhere people can donate to?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: altcoin4u on July 17, 2014, 07:04:05 PM
New to FIMK. If wishing to Forge from Web Wallet, you are informed that your secret phrase will be sent to Web Server? Concerning? Thanks for the help
and replies.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: tk808 on July 17, 2014, 07:04:26 PM
FIMKrypto reviewed on Coins Source

http://www.coinssource.com/crypto-coins/fimkrypto/


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: PilotofBTC on July 17, 2014, 07:05:32 PM
New to FIMK. If wishing to Forge from Web Wallet, you are informed that your secret phrase will be sent to Web Server? Concerning? Thanks for the help
and replies.

When you say "web" wallet, you mean you aren't running the FIM server locally? That's the safest way to do it. Also, a wallet you don't control could go down or get reset and you think it's forging and it's not.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Primitive on July 17, 2014, 07:43:12 PM
FIMKrypto reviewed on Coins Source

http://www.coinssource.com/crypto-coins/fimkrypto/

FUD


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Simakki on July 17, 2014, 07:45:55 PM
FIMKrypto reviewed on Coins Source

http://www.coinssource.com/crypto-coins/fimkrypto/

FUD

Yep, just utter crap.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: altcoin4u on July 17, 2014, 07:58:52 PM
New to FIMK. If wishing to Forge from Web Wallet, you are informed that your secret phrase will be sent to Web Server? Concerning? Thanks for the help
and replies.

You are safer to forge from the Downloadable Browser Wallet (password stays on your computer only)
http://fimk.fi/en/wallet.htm

Plus, the FIMK devs will occasionally restart the web wallet and any logged-in accounts will stop forging.

Thanks for the help. I have downloaded Java on my computer. I read you must have Java to run Browser Wallet.
Should I be extracting the "Run" Windows batch File from the Downloaded Zip file, This loads me into FIM NRS command screen?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: teletobi on July 17, 2014, 08:04:13 PM
There should be a readme.txt ...


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: altcoin4u on July 17, 2014, 08:38:36 PM
Thanks for the help. I have downloaded Java on my computer. I read you must have Java to run Browser Wallet.
Should I be extracting the "Run" Windows batch File from the Downloaded Zip file, This loads me into FIM NRS command screen?

Unzip the whole package, then run the run batch file.  Should see some startup text in a console window.  (not entirely sure, I don't personally use Windows).  Once java process has started successfully, can access the local wallet in a browser at http://localhost:7886


Unzipped complete file. "Run" batch file..
Opened up into command screen. Last line reads:
"FIM Server 0.2.2 started successfully"

Do I need to enter command.

Regret my troubles and appreciate all the help.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Primitive on July 17, 2014, 08:42:35 PM

Thanks for the help. I have downloaded Java on my computer. I read you must have Java to run Browser Wallet.
Should I be extracting the "Run" Windows batch File from the Downloaded Zip file, This loads me into FIM NRS command screen?


its pretty simple on windows.  here are the steps:

1) download the latest wallet from https://github.com/fimkrypto/fimk/releases

2) when the download is complete, extract the zip file - you will then have a folder called "fim-0.2.2"

3) open the folder and double click on the file called "run" (it may show as "run" or "run.bat")

4) a java window will open and execute.  wait a few moments until you see it say "FIM server started successfully."  leave this java process open and running.

5) open a browser and go to address: "localhost:7886"

6) log in with your passphrase and you should be good to go.  remember you will have to wait for the blockchain to download before your wallet shows accurate data


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: altcoin4u on July 17, 2014, 08:57:27 PM

Thanks for the help. I have downloaded Java on my computer. I read you must have Java to run Browser Wallet.
Should I be extracting the "Run" Windows batch File from the Downloaded Zip file, This loads me into FIM NRS command screen?


its pretty simple on windows.  here are the steps:

1) download the latest wallet from https://github.com/fimkrypto/fimk/releases

2) when the download is complete, extract the zip file - you will then have a folder called "fim-0.2.2"

3) open the folder and double click on the file called "run" (it may show as "run" or "run.bat")

4) a java window will open and execute.  wait a few moments until you see it say "FIM server started successfully."  leave this java process open and running.

5) open a browser and go to address: "localhost:7886"

6) log in with your passphrase and you should be good to go.  remember you will have to wait for the blockchain to download before your wallet shows accurate data

Thanks everyone. Great community. Up and running with Browser Wallet.
Do I need to keep Java window open or may I close out Java window?
Thanks again. Regards to all.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Primitive on July 17, 2014, 09:16:07 PM
Thanks everyone. Great community. Up and running with Browser Wallet.
Do I need to keep Java window open or may I close out Java window?
Thanks again. Regards to all.

keep java window open. 


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: PilotofBTC on July 17, 2014, 09:22:56 PM

Thanks for the help. I have downloaded Java on my computer. I read you must have Java to run Browser Wallet.
Should I be extracting the "Run" Windows batch File from the Downloaded Zip file, This loads me into FIM NRS command screen?


its pretty simple on windows.  here are the steps:

1) download the latest wallet from https://github.com/fimkrypto/fimk/releases

2) when the download is complete, extract the zip file - you will then have a folder called "fim-0.2.2"

3) open the folder and double click on the file called "run" (it may show as "run" or "run.bat")

4) a java window will open and execute.  wait a few moments until you see it say "FIM server started successfully."  leave this java process open and running.

5) open a browser and go to address: "localhost:7886"

6) log in with your passphrase and you should be good to go.  remember you will have to wait for the blockchain to download before your wallet shows accurate data

Thanks everyone. Great community. Up and running with Browser Wallet.
Do I need to keep Java window open or may I close out Java window?
Thanks again. Regards to all.

If you close the java console the server will stop and you won't be forging.

So, yes, you need to keep the java window open. Just minimize it and you should be good to go.

You can also make this a service with srv any, so it will auto start and run in the background so you won't see the java window.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on July 17, 2014, 10:01:13 PM
http://www.coinssource.com/crypto-coins/fimkrypto/
Whoa that's the worst case of disinfo I have seen for a while. The author must be seriously disillusioned at the least.

I especially wonder about these parts:

Quote
FIMKrypto offers no new innovations, and is a one-to-one clone of Nxt

Quote
Due to the developers neglectance to market FIMKrypto further, the coin ultimately suffers with a dwindling community support, and eventually, a possible death is near.

I bet he didn't even hear about Kryptoradio or Basic Income with strong authentication capabilities offered by registered public nonprofit organization that is growing its membership regularly.

If we weren't aware of the inbred ignorance plaguing certain people, that would seem somewhat like an orchestrated attempt to discredit FIMK for a reason or another.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: gvans on July 18, 2014, 02:02:49 AM
http://www.coinssource.com/crypto-coins/fimkrypto/
Whoa that's the worst case of disinfo I have seen for a while. ...

Yeah poor "journalism"  ::)

Which makes me think of efficient pr. It has to be as good as it gets. I know it is all in early stage still and maybe devs have been planning it somehow. But it would be crucial for greater success to have professional marketing. I would definitely get an advertising agency (professional and fresh) onboard with few btw from ipo. Even better, make them genuinely involved by giving them some fimk from development fund so they would stick in for the long run. And why not do that with two or three agencies and pick the one you like after first results or make them collaborate. But this kind of project would definitely need way more than a guy or two who can do some graphics and build a website. There is so much more to it.

Think out of the box, aim high, get a professional outsider point of view on the overall image with website and all.

I know how it feels to be the father of an idea and having the urge to control everything about it. I'm a designer myself, not advertising but different kind of stuff. Anyhow in the end if your vision of the project is strong enough (as it seems to be in FIMK) that vision will be the heart and framework of the project and you will only benefit if you let outside professionals tamper with things ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: rommaz on July 18, 2014, 03:38:12 AM
FIMKrypto reviewed on Coins Source

http://www.coinssource.com/crypto-coins/fimkrypto/

"lack of social promotions" - Yes, it's true.

"FIMKrypto is lost at sea with the hundreds of other alternative coins" - It's what I'm afraid of.

I'd like to be wrong, but there is a lack of news, no information about further steps in development...
The blockchain radio is a great news really. But it is the only news after IPO!

And now when DGEX.com is down there is no exchange at all!

How can we increase community and involve new people in Fimk project with such kind of things?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: smaragda on July 18, 2014, 06:31:33 AM
If we weren't aware of the inbred ignorance plaguing certain people, that would seem somewhat like an orchestrated attempt to discredit FIMK for a reason or another.

lol   ...sometimes it is both...


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Primitive on July 18, 2014, 06:34:09 AM
we should all just stay patient until DGEX is back online.  once it is, we can work on growth.  the coin is brand new.  dont get discouraged.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: casx on July 18, 2014, 08:22:46 AM
still loving this coin!

but i want to sell some at 0.0000033 have to pay my appartment =/


just pm me



Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: qora dan on July 18, 2014, 09:53:58 AM
Be as it may we can not get around the fact that that at the moment there is a damaging article about FIMK on the web and whoever outside the community reads it will think FIMK is a joke. We can not afford that. There are hundreds of coins out there and not everyone takes the time to do the research on each coin. At the moment itd " What's this FIMK"

I agree that FIMK is not a pump and dump coin and that we need to look to the long term future but I can not help but think that a massive opportunity was missed to really put FIMK on the map straight after IPO when a lot of buzz was created because of the 533 BTC raised. Once you have that kind of momentum you can not sit back and relax. A lot of us believe in FIMK and the dev team but we will be stupid if we think that without any marketing or effort from the community that this will be a success.

Its not Dgex's fault but the fact that trading has been stopped is a blow and we cant blame crappy journalism for anything. Most people belive what their told by the media so I think its time to use some of the 533 BTC and launch this rocket.

I am sure people in the community will be happy to help once we get a idea which direction the dev team wants to go.

We need a proper website
Social Media accounts with regular updates
More exchanges
A big community project that will create publicity.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: rommaz on July 18, 2014, 10:20:48 AM
Be as it may we can not get around the fact that that at the moment there is a damaging article about FIMK on the web and whoever outside the community reads it will think FIMK is a joke. We can not afford that. There are hundreds of coins out there and not everyone takes the time to do the research on each coin. At the moment itd " What's this FIMK"

I agree that FIMK is not a pump and dump coin and that we need to look to the long term future but I can not help but think that a massive opportunity was missed to really put FIMK on the map straight after IPO when a lot of buzz was created because of the 533 BTC raised. Once you have that kind of momentum you can not sit back and relax. A lot of us believe in FIMK and the dev team but we will be stupid if we think that without any marketing or effort from the community that this will be a success.

Its not Dgex's fault but the fact that trading has been stopped is a blow and we cant blame crappy journalism for anything. Most people belive what their told by the media so I think its time to use some of the 533 BTC and launch this rocket.

I am sure people in the community will be happy to help once we get a idea which direction the dev team wants to go.

We need a proper website
Social Media accounts with regular updates
More exchanges
A big community project that will create publicity.


More people involved - more success coin gets. It's clear.

I think that devs just hiding their coin from public attention. But I can't imagine, why?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: casx on July 18, 2014, 10:45:11 AM
Be as it may we can not get around the fact that that at the moment there is a damaging article about FIMK on the web and whoever outside the community reads it will think FIMK is a joke. We can not afford that. There are hundreds of coins out there and not everyone takes the time to do the research on each coin. At the moment itd " What's this FIMK"

I agree that FIMK is not a pump and dump coin and that we need to look to the long term future but I can not help but think that a massive opportunity was missed to really put FIMK on the map straight after IPO when a lot of buzz was created because of the 533 BTC raised. Once you have that kind of momentum you can not sit back and relax. A lot of us believe in FIMK and the dev team but we will be stupid if we think that without any marketing or effort from the community that this will be a success.

Its not Dgex's fault but the fact that trading has been stopped is a blow and we cant blame crappy journalism for anything. Most people belive what their told by the media so I think its time to use some of the 533 BTC and launch this rocket.

I am sure people in the community will be happy to help once we get a idea which direction the dev team wants to go.

We need a proper website
Social Media accounts with regular updates
More exchanges
A big community project that will create publicity.


More people involved - more success coin gets. It's clear.

I think that devs just hiding their coin from public attention. But I can't imagine, why?


as you can see we have no exchange in the moment.. it would be not a great deal to get the attention atm at fimk.

im sure that fimk will success and hit min the 6 mio marketcap in nearest future!


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: altcoin4u on July 18, 2014, 11:37:50 AM

I read this statement on the FIMK Forum regarding Forging.

"Last, look in the peers section. Most peers should be connected and have a green icon (mouse over and you will see "Connected")"

I do have the Green Icon displayed and stating I am Forging.
I do not see "Connected" when moving mouse over Green Icon?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: hyo on July 18, 2014, 12:35:56 PM

I read this statement on the FIMK Forum regarding Forging.

"Last, look in the peers section. Most peers should be connected and have a green icon (mouse over and you will see "Connected")"

I do have the Green Icon displayed and stating I am Forging.
I do not see "Connected" when moving mouse over Green Icon?


If there is around 40 peers how many should be connected?
Would half of them be ok?
And if not - how to connect to other connected peers?

Not worry about dgex and fimk crew - they are the men with the plan:)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Primitive on July 18, 2014, 04:11:24 PM
we should all just stay patient until DGEX is back online.  once it is, we can work on growth.

Have an idea running around in my head for community to support a growing and healthy FIMK economy.  Please let me know what you think.

A Give 10% Back campaign.  Basically, every FIMKster would be encouraged to give away 10% of their earned block rewards to growing the community and/or the tech.  Large, small, medium sized-holders, doesn't matter.  Everybody can participate at a level comfortable to them.

I am committed to this ideal.  Who else is with me?

how would it work?  just as p2p transactions / donations?  how to avoid beggers masquerading as newbs with no coins?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: PilotofBTC on July 18, 2014, 04:54:01 PM
Does FIMK allow for leased forging? Or, was that pulled out of the core?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: quiglag on July 19, 2014, 02:12:12 AM
Anyone else not having luck forging? I have a 58,000+ Effective Balance and haven't forged a block in 4 days. I currently have 21 connected peers.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Hermann1337 on July 19, 2014, 10:05:54 AM
https://bter.com/voting#FIMK

Keep upvoting FIMK !!!!


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Schultereisen on July 19, 2014, 10:56:44 AM
I don´t have bter points ...


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: dance on July 20, 2014, 06:54:31 AM
I don´t have bter points ...

If you do a little day trading points build up fast. Just don't make any withdrawals or all the bter points will  be  deducted from your account. Vote first! =)  And when you do wish to withdraw, doing so after you use up the points is not a problem. You can withdraw with zero points without any kind of penalty.
I spent my bter points to buy votes, but now I'm thinking it was better to keep them for receiving free-votes every hour and to use them instead. I would have up-voted more at the moment.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: rriky92 on July 20, 2014, 04:23:36 PM
Is there a website like peerexplorer? I have a running node and want to use how much node are online


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Simakki on July 21, 2014, 06:15:55 AM
Starting new week with a good hunch, FIMK will hit a new exchange soon  8)



Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Primitive on July 21, 2014, 06:18:22 AM
Starting new week with a good hunch, FIMK will hit a new exchange soon  8)



hope you're right.

hope the devs drop some news on us this week.  so little activity lately.

let's go FIMK!!


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Simakki on July 21, 2014, 06:42:37 AM
Starting new week with a good hunch, FIMK will hit a new exchange soon  8)



hope you're right.

hope the devs drop some news on us this week.  so little activity lately.

let's go FIMK!!

Devs will drop some good news this week,though im not 100% sure ´bout that...


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: trl55238 on July 21, 2014, 08:36:52 AM
Starting new week with a good hunch, FIMK will hit a new exchange soon  8)



hope you're right.

hope the devs drop some news on us this week.  so little activity lately.

let's go FIMK!!

Little is quite the understatement.. No activity whatsoever is more like it. None on the English based resources anyway --website or forums. Either there's a monumental amount of effort going into some undertaking supporting an aspect of FIMK that hasn't been revealed to the general community, or this has been an extremely successful quarter million dollar scam. If the former is the case it would only explain the absence of the devs and not the other members of the team. It makes me worry more than just a little that merely a fraction of that IPO money could easily purchase a good amount of quality marketing, public relations, web-design, etc. and yet by all appearances none of that has happened. We're not even on a single exchange at the moment!
They could pass out a bit of coin to anyone that submits proof they've contacted the bter people to list FIMK and/or prove they're actively been voting for it. That would get FIMK on there in no time at all. A faucet voluntarily funded by those of us that feel generous would be pretty easy to do as well. These are just some among many things other groups have accomplished in short time with much less resources at their disposal.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: qora dan on July 21, 2014, 09:14:53 AM
Starting new week with a good hunch, FIMK will hit a new exchange soon  8)



hope you're right.

hope the devs drop some news on us this week.  so little activity lately.

let's go FIMK!!

Little is quite the understatement.. No activity whatsoever is more like it. None on the English based resources anyway --website or forums. Either there's a monumental amount of effort going into some undertaking supporting an aspect of FIMK that hasn't been revealed to the general community, or this has been an extremely successful quarter million dollar scam. If the former is the case it would only explain the absence of the devs and not the other members of the team. It makes me worry more than just a little that merely a fraction of that IPO money could easily purchase a good amount of quality marketing, public relations, web-design, etc. and yet by all appearances none of that has happened. We're not even on a single exchange at the moment!
They could pass out a bit of coin to anyone that submits proof they've contacted the bter people to list FIMK and/or prove they're actively been voting for it. That would get FIMK on there in no time at all. A faucet voluntarily funded by those of us that feel generous would be pretty easy to do as well. These are just some among many things other groups have accomplished in short time with much less resources at their disposal.

Agreed


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on July 21, 2014, 09:24:30 AM
Little is quite the understatement.. No activity whatsoever is more like it. None on the English based resources anyway --website or forums. Either there's a monumental amount of effort going into some undertaking supporting an aspect of FIMK that hasn't been revealed to the general community, or this has been an extremely successful quarter million dollar scam. If the former is the case it would only explain the absence of the devs and not the other members of the team. It makes me worry more than just a little that merely a fraction of that IPO money could easily purchase a good amount of quality marketing, public relations, web-design, etc. and yet by all appearances none of that has happened. We're not even on a single exchange at the moment!
They could pass out a bit of coin to anyone that submits proof they've contacted the bter people to list FIMK and/or prove they're actively been voting for it. That would get FIMK on there in no time at all. A faucet voluntarily funded by those of us that feel generous would be pretty easy to do as well. These are just some among many things other groups have accomplished in short time with much less resources at their disposal.
FIMK is a community project whose live launch was less than 3 weeks ago in what's practially a totally dead period in the Finnish business scene.

Yet we the developers were successful in getting trading up with our connections - with excellent stable price floor and without the usual altcoin bust and boom structure - before issues outside our control occurred, and we have since struck what's an unforeseen positive development co-operation deal in the cryptocurrency world (Kryptoradio)

I'd appreciate some modesty in the scam accusations as they do no good for anyone but only spur up bad vibes and fud. Finland has a very effective judical system you know. Nearly anyone can assure you we wouldn't get away with pulling such a stunt, even if you forget the moral obligations that we as persons do have, even though I know it doesn't count nearly a bit in the international cynical fields such as this forum.

The association core team is 4 people, of which only myself and the foreign tech dev work close to full time for this. Both of us were coincidentally struck with some very very unfortunate personal happenings during the weekend that need arrangements and recovery beyond the online world. If we post less to Bitcointalk for 2-3 days to get stuff under control I'm sorry but I consider it rather immature to draw such conclusions that some of the people are doing.

What's a community project? A project whose outcome is decided by the actions of the community. If "devs" must have a short pause on it, do something yourself. Thanks for your support.

BTER is coming, other exchanges, ventures and deals are coming. 3 days of slowness onduring a July weekend and this sort of flack, sheesh!


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on July 21, 2014, 09:33:10 AM
BTW, this draft has leaked inadvertedly, so let's post it here already:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hN_POK8kqcw


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Simakki on July 21, 2014, 09:34:46 AM
Little is quite the understatement.. No activity whatsoever is more like it. None on the English based resources anyway --website or forums. Either there's a monumental amount of effort going into some undertaking supporting an aspect of FIMK that hasn't been revealed to the general community, or this has been an extremely successful quarter million dollar scam. If the former is the case it would only explain the absence of the devs and not the other members of the team. It makes me worry more than just a little that merely a fraction of that IPO money could easily purchase a good amount of quality marketing, public relations, web-design, etc. and yet by all appearances none of that has happened. We're not even on a single exchange at the moment!
They could pass out a bit of coin to anyone that submits proof they've contacted the bter people to list FIMK and/or prove they're actively been voting for it. That would get FIMK on there in no time at all. A faucet voluntarily funded by those of us that feel generous would be pretty easy to do as well. These are just some among many things other groups have accomplished in short time with much less resources at their disposal.
FIMK is a community project whose live launch was less than 3 weeks ago in what's practially a totally dead period in the Finnish business scene.

Yet we the developers were successful in getting trading up with our connections - with excellent stable price floor and without the usual altcoin bust and boom structure - before issues outside our control occurred, and we have since struck what's an unforeseen positive development co-operation deal in the cryptocurrency world (Kryptoradio)

I'd appreciate some modesty in the scam accusations as they do no good for anyone but only spur up bad vibes and fud. Finland has a very effective judical system you know. Nearly anyone can assure you we wouldn't get away with pulling such a stunt, even if you forget the moral obligations that we as persons do have, even though I know it doesn't count nearly a bit in the international cynical fields such as this forum.

The association core team is 4 people, of which only myself and the foreign tech dev work close to full time for this. Both of us were coincidentally struck with some very very unfortunate personal happenings during the weekend that need arrangements and recovery beyond the online world. If we post less to Bitcointalk for 2-3 days to get stuff under control I'm sorry but I consider it rather immature to draw such conclusions that some of the people are doing.

What's a community project? A project whose outcome is decided by the actions of the community. If "devs" must have a short pause on it, do something yourself. Thanks for your support.

BTER is coming, other exchanges, ventures and deals are coming. 3 days of slowness onduring a July weekend and this sort of flack, sheesh!

Good update !
 Thx and hopefully some of the writes could refrain from using terms like scam in this topic.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on July 21, 2014, 09:45:26 AM
DRAFT

http://i.imgur.com/MAsSRMr.png


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Simakki on July 21, 2014, 10:07:28 AM

Way better than the old one in fimk-website  8)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: bitcoinpaul on July 21, 2014, 10:17:38 AM
please stop with this photoshop templates crap.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: btler420 on July 21, 2014, 10:23:33 AM
Why not hire a graphic designer to rework logo&website?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: tigomjir on July 21, 2014, 10:26:38 AM
listing in dgex was a big disaster. not listing in any other exchange is even bigger


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Hermann1337 on July 21, 2014, 10:35:24 AM
dgex said they will be back online today. so lets see if this will happen...

"July 17th 2014: Trading area will be unavailable until the week starting on July 21st due to server migration, security setup and software updates. Please check back for the new, better DGEX services soon. Our apologies for the inconvenience."


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: wood7 on July 21, 2014, 10:50:15 AM
the coin are a fork of nxt?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on July 21, 2014, 10:50:43 AM
listing in dgex was a big disaster.
I still think it was an excellent choice. It enabled us to implement the very stable distribution to 400+ stakeholders and gain the whole 533 BTC to help FIMKrypto through the following years.

Nevertheless, now it's time to move on.

dgex said they will be back online today. so lets see if this will happen...
I don't think so. From what I know "The week starting" doesn't sound like today to me unfortunately.

This is a project with at least 4 years of scope. If you get nervous what happens this week I'd suggest take a refereshing hike or go fishing :)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: qora dan on July 21, 2014, 10:58:26 AM



Are you saying dgex wont come back online any time soon?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: allmycoins on July 21, 2014, 12:22:34 PM
Hi, new in FIMKrypto. I wanted to fund my account, but the faucet is offline the last days and dgex is offline too. Maybe someone can fund my brand new account please?

My address is: 11684442824392276814

Thank you for help!


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Hermann1337 on July 21, 2014, 12:23:07 PM
dgex said they will be back online today. so lets see if this will happen...
I don't think so. From what I know "The week starting" doesn't sound like today to me unfortunately.

This is a project with at least 4 years of scope. If you get nervous what happens this week I'd suggest take a refereshing hike or go fishing :)

i think a few days ago the information said it would be relaunched today. think they changed it or i am wrong and should have looked closer


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: gvans on July 21, 2014, 01:12:27 PM
BTER is coming, other exchanges, ventures and deals are coming. 3 days of slowness onduring a July weekend and this sort of flack, sheesh!

It's a little funny with all this impatience in crypto world. Say you invest in stock or savings bonds or whatever, you don't chat daily on basis on forums with the entrepreneur or bank or whatever :)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: qora dan on July 21, 2014, 01:15:26 PM
some official news or a statement from Dgex would be great. I remember Graviton saying in a shareholder letter that he's close with the FIMK dev's so maybe they can get a update from him to help the community move forward. I know of a lot of people that have most or all of their holdings in Dgex so even if FIMK gets launched on Bter there is not much they can do


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: teletobi on July 21, 2014, 01:16:16 PM
Hi, new in FIMKrypto. I wanted to fund my account, but the faucet is offline the last days and dgex is offline too. Maybe someone can fund my brand new account please?

My address is: 11684442824392276814

Thank you for help!

Sent You 42 Fimk, but there were already 99.9


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: dance on July 21, 2014, 01:30:40 PM
some official news or a statement from Dgex would be great. I remember Graviton saying in a shareholder letter that he's close with the FIMK dev's so maybe they can get a update from him to help the community move forward. I know of a lot of people that have most or all of their holdings in Dgex so even if FIMK gets launched on Bter there is not much they can do

From nxtforum.org:

Re-opening will not likely happen before late next week. TBH I need a short break to get back to the fight. Guarding people's NXT 7 months straight and topping it off with a -70k EUR reward can get to your bones you know.

So, I guess, not before weekend. Or even later, according to the DGEX development 'speed' in the past.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: qora dan on July 21, 2014, 01:36:49 PM
BTER is coming, other exchanges, ventures and deals are coming. 3 days of slowness onduring a July weekend and this sort of flack, sheesh!

It's a little funny with all this impatience in crypto world. Say you invest in stock or savings bonds or whatever, you don't chat daily on basis on forums with the entrepreneur or bank or whatever :)

I cant really see how you can compare stocks and savings bonds to crypto's where the trading is 24/7 and 95% of people trade their crypto themselves.

Also I wonder what would happen if one of the major stock exchanges in the world shuts down for 5 days and no ones knows when it will re-open.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: qora dan on July 21, 2014, 01:40:24 PM
some official news or a statement from Dgex would be great. I remember Graviton saying in a shareholder letter that he's close with the FIMK dev's so maybe they can get a update from him to help the community move forward. I know of a lot of people that have most or all of their holdings in Dgex so even if FIMK gets launched on Bter there is not much they can do

From nxtforum.org:

Re-opening will not likely happen before late next week. TBH I need a short break to get back to the fight. Guarding people's NXT 7 months straight and topping it off with a -70k EUR reward can get to your bones you know.

So, I guess, not before weekend. Or even later, according to the DGEX development 'speed' in the past.

If that's the case then really they need to find a way to allow people to at least withdraw their dgex FIMK holdings


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on July 21, 2014, 05:27:23 PM
There's a vote going on the fimk forum about the brand and logo to use. Total 15 entries so far, more are welcome!

http://forum.fimk.fi/index.php?topic=333.0

A few tasters:

http://forum.fimk.fi/logos/Corporate.png

http://forum.fimk.fi/logos/1.png

http://forum.fimk.fi/logos/24.png


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Primitive on July 21, 2014, 05:30:59 PM
regarding the logo, PLEASE drop all the reflections and bevel texture and emboss.  thats never a good idea.  go with FLAT design.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on July 21, 2014, 05:39:54 PM
Texture and effects can be adjusted according to situation. It's a question of form factor mostly at this phase.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Primitive on July 21, 2014, 05:43:54 PM
Eliphaz: can i add a new design?  should i do it here or at the other forum?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on July 21, 2014, 05:45:58 PM
Eliphaz: can i add a new design?  should i do it here or at the other forum?
The Fimk forum please.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: kirivas_s on July 21, 2014, 07:55:00 PM
No use of voting on BTER. They are not adding the coins from voting list


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: zhangdu on July 22, 2014, 01:25:45 AM
anyone knows about what's happening on DGEX, as 21st past already, the web still locked.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Primitive on July 22, 2014, 01:26:38 AM
anyone knows about what's happening on DGEX, as 21st past already, the web still locked.

the note says reopens this week, not today.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on July 22, 2014, 06:59:22 AM
No use of voting on BTER. They are not adding the coins from voting list
Is that an observation or information?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: kirivas_s on July 22, 2014, 07:43:54 AM
No use of voting on BTER. They are not adding the coins from voting list
Is that an observation or information?

why do you worry? you don't care about this coin anyway


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Simakki on July 22, 2014, 07:45:48 AM
No use of voting on BTER. They are not adding the coins from voting list
Is that an observation or information?

why do you worry? you don't care about this coin anyway

Stop spreading this stupid FUD kirivas...


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: qora dan on July 22, 2014, 08:31:34 AM
No use of voting on BTER. They are not adding the coins from voting list
Is that an observation or information?

Is it worth taking some of the IPO money and vote FIMK to the top on Bter anyway. They are sure to take notice of it then and add it


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: HarriHirsch on July 22, 2014, 08:45:35 AM
some official news or a statement from Dgex would be great. I remember Graviton saying in a shareholder letter that he's close with the FIMK dev's so maybe they can get a update from him to help the community move forward. I know of a lot of people that have most or all of their holdings in Dgex so even if FIMK gets launched on Bter there is not much they can do

Yes, thats the problem +1


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: HarriHirsch on July 22, 2014, 08:48:46 AM
What about Poloniex? Nice user interface and I like the way busoni is communicating and working over there...


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: kirivas_s on July 22, 2014, 08:51:22 AM
What about Poloniex? Nice user interface and I like the way busoni is communicating and working over there...

yes top idea. get fimk to poloniex atleast please

but Busoni needs communication/support from developer. else he wont


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: dance on July 22, 2014, 08:57:29 AM
What about Poloniex? Nice user interface and I like the way busoni is communicating and working over there...
Will Fimk fit in this row of p&d and scam coins supported by poloniex, mintpal and etc?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on July 22, 2014, 09:16:20 AM
I've contacted Poloniex a couple of days ago, letting them know of the opportunity and that FIMK developers desire their assistance in the current circumstances

Will Fimk fit in this row of p&d and scam coins supported by poloniex, mintpal and etc?
Such image will be only temporary, it dissipates as soon FIMK is traded "everywhere" (that word being partially sarcasm depending on your scope ;)).


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: coinmasters on July 22, 2014, 09:20:05 AM
I will like poloniex...


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: kirivas_s on July 22, 2014, 09:24:20 AM
What about Poloniex? Nice user interface and I like the way busoni is communicating and working over there...
Will Fimk fit in this row of p&d and scam coins supported by poloniex, mintpal and etc?

better than 0 trading in dgex


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: kirivas_s on July 22, 2014, 09:33:54 AM
I've contacted Poloniex a couple of days ago, letting them know of the opportunity and that FIMK developers desire their assistance in the current circumstances


what was their response? are they ok to list fimk in poloniex?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on July 22, 2014, 09:45:41 AM
what was their response? are they ok to list fimk in poloniex?
No response


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Vega on July 22, 2014, 09:51:42 AM
what was their response? are they ok to list fimk in poloniex?
No response
Try talking to James. He (sharkfund) has a position in FIM, and he got Poloniex to list his NXT AE asset.
A coin would be child's play. :)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on July 22, 2014, 10:57:44 AM
Some uplifting epicness for your standard summer Tuesday. Fasten your seatbelts for just a minute's flight! :)

[FIMK Trailer (unofficial)]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaJ8McCbHhk


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: rommaz on July 22, 2014, 11:24:34 AM
Some uplifting epicness for your standard summer Tuesday. Fasten your seatbelts for just a minute's flight! :)

[FIMK Trailer (unofficial)]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaJ8McCbHhk

Quite cool! I like the way you are doing!


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Krypt on July 22, 2014, 11:53:42 AM
letting them know of the opportunity and that FIMK developers desire their assistance in the current circumstances
Can FIMK developers create an automated FIM gateway to/from Nxt AssetExchange, like NHZ gateway (http://asx.nhzcrypto.org/) ?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: qora dan on July 22, 2014, 12:11:05 PM
People might want to vote Fimk on this exchange. its at 39 atm

https://www.usecryptos.com/voting


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on July 22, 2014, 12:12:34 PM
Can FIMK developers create an automated FIM gateway to/from Nxt AssetExchange, like NHZ gateway (http://asx.nhzcrypto.org/) ?
In fact that has been on the pile for quite a while already.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: zhangdu on July 22, 2014, 12:34:40 PM
People might want to vote Fimk on this exchange. its at 39 atm

https://www.usecryptos.com/voting

someone don't want spread FIMK for some reason, so just give it up.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: dance on July 22, 2014, 12:45:14 PM
People might want to vote Fimk on this exchange. its at 39 atm

https://www.usecryptos.com/voting
Looks like there is a lot of bot voting.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on July 22, 2014, 12:47:36 PM
someone don't want spread FIMK for some reason, so just give it up.
How sophisticated conclusion :D

We're doing things quite differently than your standard pump and dump. Did you notice yet?

Exceptional results demand exceptional actions. Whoa, they may scare the norm!

If you want your standard failing coin that will be dead in water 6 months from now, keep paying attention to those who put emphasis to the exchanges, rates, bots and paid voting.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: BlackFor3st on July 22, 2014, 01:27:39 PM
someone don't want spread FIMK for some reason, so just give it up.
How sophisticated conclusion :D

We're doing things quite differently than your standard pump and dump. Did you notice yet?

Exceptional results demand exceptional actions. Whoa, they may scare the norm!

If you want your standard failing coin that will be dead in water 6 months from now, keep paying attention to those who put emphasis to the exchanges, rates, bots and paid voting.
+1 smart Devs :)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: zhangdu on July 22, 2014, 01:30:41 PM

We're doing things quite differently than your standard pump and dump. Did you notice yet?


??????? i didn't see you guys do something special, maybe you think you are. ??? now i just want sell my FIMK and good luck to FIMK, when the DGEX reopen?   ;D ;D ;D  



Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: zhangdu on July 22, 2014, 01:35:44 PM

+1 smart Devs :)

you too. :-*


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: kirivas_s on July 22, 2014, 02:05:15 PM
someone don't want spread FIMK for some reason, so just give it up.
How sophisticated conclusion :D

We're doing things quite differently than your standard pump and dump. Did you notice yet?

Exceptional results demand exceptional actions. Whoa, they may scare the norm!

If you want your standard failing coin that will be dead in water 6 months from now, keep paying attention to those who put emphasis to the exchanges, rates, bots and paid voting.

so what is that you have done differently?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on July 22, 2014, 04:11:49 PM
so what is that you have done differently?
Notice that the bulk of that remains to be manifested in the coming years.

HOWEVER, please let me state what has already been done differently:

- new generation unique POS p2p network with guaranteed block rewards every 30 secs
- national monthly citizen income plan with strong identification
- encrypted near instant messaging
- decentralized asset exchange prominently accessible within the native client
- smart token voting (under development)
- community incentives (automation installed soon)
- transactions broadcast in national radio network (funded & contracted, pilot commencing Sept 1st)
- public, amply funded non-profit association coordinated with 4-year progress plan
- stable distribution to 416 initial stakeholding accounts
- 533 BTC for organization's use in non-profit association funds
- co-operation contract for Bitcoin national visibility tour with radio advertisements
- no excessive stakeholder amounts posing future dumping hazards
- strong non-pyramid structure initial public pricing base with only 1.5x to 4x donations value
- offline arrangements for web merchants to begin accepting FIMK in August / September
- preliminary development projects for hardware authentication tokens and hardware merchant solutions
- preliminary arrangements to source and install FIMKrypto disbursement & exchange ATM machines nationwide
- connections standing by for implementation of credit card payments and pre-paid debit card disbursements
- prominent exchange arrangements with the project leader carrying main business interest and already functional connections
- discrete, non-exhaustive promotion efforts outlining just a few of the above aspects and leaving a lot of ammo for future pr.

Some undisclosed development projects we prefer to keep confidential.
Thank you for your understanding that it takes more than "this week" to deploy that bunch. We will keep you updated.
::)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: rommaz on July 22, 2014, 05:15:28 PM
so what is that you have done differently?
Notice that the bulk of that remains to be manifested in the coming years.

HOWEVER, please let me state what has already been done differently:

- new generation unique POS p2p network with guaranteed block rewards every 30 secs
- national monthly citizen income plan with strong identification
- encrypted near instant messaging
- decentralized asset exchange prominently accessible within the native client
- smart token voting (under development)
- community incentives (automation installed soon)
- transactions broadcast in national radio network (funded & contracted, pilot commencing Sept 1st)
- public, amply funded non-profit association coordinated with 4-year progress plan
- stable distribution to 416 initial stakeholding accounts
- 533 BTC for organization's use in non-profit association funds
- co-operation contract for Bitcoin national visibility tour with radio advertisements
- no excessive stakeholder amounts posing future dumping hazards
- strong non-pyramid structure initial public pricing base with only 1.5x to 4x donations value
- offline arrangements for web merchants to begin accepting FIMK in August / September
- preliminary development projects for hardware authentication tokens and hardware merchant solutions
- preliminary arrangements to source and install FIMKrypto disbursement & exchange ATM machines nationwide
- connections standing by for implementation of credit card payments and pre-paid debit card disbursements
- prominent exchange arrangements with the project leader carrying main business interest and already functional connections
- discrete, non-exhaustive promotion efforts outlining just a few of the above aspects and leaving a lot of ammo for future pr.

Some undisclosed development projects we prefer to keep confidential.
Thank you for your understanding that it takes more than "this week" to deploy that bunch. We will keep you updated.
::)

Impressive list!
I see there some future plans... It's what exactly I wanted to see.
Now it gives me a hope, that if everything goes as planned we will get something more than another cryptocoin in the list.

You are doing well. My heart is with you guys!


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Simakki on July 22, 2014, 05:35:29 PM
so what is that you have done differently?
Notice that the bulk of that remains to be manifested in the coming years.

HOWEVER, please let me state what has already been done differently:

- new generation unique POS p2p network with guaranteed block rewards every 30 secs
- national monthly citizen income plan with strong identification
- encrypted near instant messaging
- decentralized asset exchange prominently accessible within the native client
- smart token voting (under development)
- community incentives (automation installed soon)
- transactions broadcast in national radio network (funded & contracted, pilot commencing Sept 1st)
- public, amply funded non-profit association coordinated with 4-year progress plan
- stable distribution to 416 initial stakeholding accounts
- 533 BTC for organization's use in non-profit association funds
- co-operation contract for Bitcoin national visibility tour with radio advertisements
- no excessive stakeholder amounts posing future dumping hazards
- strong non-pyramid structure initial public pricing base with only 1.5x to 4x donations value
- offline arrangements for web merchants to begin accepting FIMK in August / September
- preliminary development projects for hardware authentication tokens and hardware merchant solutions
- preliminary arrangements to source and install FIMKrypto disbursement & exchange ATM machines nationwide
- connections standing by for implementation of credit card payments and pre-paid debit card disbursements
- prominent exchange arrangements with the project leader carrying main business interest and already functional connections
- discrete, non-exhaustive promotion efforts outlining just a few of the above aspects and leaving a lot of ammo for future pr.

Some undisclosed development projects we prefer to keep confidential.
Thank you for your understanding that it takes more than "this week" to deploy that bunch. We will keep you updated.
::)

Impressive list!
I see there some future plans... It's what exactly I wanted to see.
Now it gives me a hope, that if everything goes as planned we will get something more than another cryptocoin in the list.

You are doing well. My heart is with you guys!

Quite impressed!


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: WilderX on July 22, 2014, 05:40:56 PM
That logo is awful... Missä on se leijona?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: PL_CoinTrader on July 22, 2014, 07:50:45 PM
Some uplifting epicness for your standard summer Tuesday. Fasten your seatbelts for just a minute's flight! :)

[FIMK Trailer (unofficial)]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaJ8McCbHhk

What a epic trailer. Just awesome! :D

so what is that you have done differently?
Notice that the bulk of that remains to be manifested in the coming years.

HOWEVER, please let me state what has already been done differently:

- new generation unique POS p2p network with guaranteed block rewards every 30 secs
- national monthly citizen income plan with strong identification
- encrypted near instant messaging
- decentralized asset exchange prominently accessible within the native client
- smart token voting (under development)
- community incentives (automation installed soon)
- transactions broadcast in national radio network (funded & contracted, pilot commencing Sept 1st)
- public, amply funded non-profit association coordinated with 4-year progress plan
- stable distribution to 416 initial stakeholding accounts
- 533 BTC for organization's use in non-profit association funds
- co-operation contract for Bitcoin national visibility tour with radio advertisements
- no excessive stakeholder amounts posing future dumping hazards
- strong non-pyramid structure initial public pricing base with only 1.5x to 4x donations value
- offline arrangements for web merchants to begin accepting FIMK in August / September
- preliminary development projects for hardware authentication tokens and hardware merchant solutions
- preliminary arrangements to source and install FIMKrypto disbursement & exchange ATM machines nationwide
- connections standing by for implementation of credit card payments and pre-paid debit card disbursements
- prominent exchange arrangements with the project leader carrying main business interest and already functional connections
- discrete, non-exhaustive promotion efforts outlining just a few of the above aspects and leaving a lot of ammo for future pr.

Some undisclosed development projects we prefer to keep confidential.
Thank you for your understanding that it takes more than "this week" to deploy that bunch. We will keep you updated.
::)

Nice! I'm so happy right now that I haven't sold my Fimk because I thought about to do so.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: quiglag on July 22, 2014, 07:59:26 PM
What ever happened to those pre-mined coins?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: kikeda on July 23, 2014, 02:10:23 AM
Some uplifting epicness for your standard summer Tuesday. Fasten your seatbelts for just a minute's flight! :)

[FIMK Trailer (unofficial)]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaJ8McCbHhk

It looks like a indie movie intro. haha

so what is that you have done differently?
Notice that the bulk of that remains to be manifested in the coming years.

HOWEVER, please let me state what has already been done differently:

- new generation unique POS p2p network with guaranteed block rewards every 30 secs
- national monthly citizen income plan with strong identification
- encrypted near instant messaging
- decentralized asset exchange prominently accessible within the native client
- smart token voting (under development)
- community incentives (automation installed soon)
- transactions broadcast in national radio network (funded & contracted, pilot commencing Sept 1st)
- public, amply funded non-profit association coordinated with 4-year progress plan
- stable distribution to 416 initial stakeholding accounts
- 533 BTC for organization's use in non-profit association funds
- co-operation contract for Bitcoin national visibility tour with radio advertisements
- no excessive stakeholder amounts posing future dumping hazards
- strong non-pyramid structure initial public pricing base with only 1.5x to 4x donations value
- offline arrangements for web merchants to begin accepting FIMK in August / September
- preliminary development projects for hardware authentication tokens and hardware merchant solutions
- preliminary arrangements to source and install FIMKrypto disbursement & exchange ATM machines nationwide
- connections standing by for implementation of credit card payments and pre-paid debit card disbursements
- prominent exchange arrangements with the project leader carrying main business interest and already functional connections
- discrete, non-exhaustive promotion efforts outlining just a few of the above aspects and leaving a lot of ammo for future pr.

Some undisclosed development projects we prefer to keep confidential.
Thank you for your understanding that it takes more than "this week" to deploy that bunch. We will keep you updated.
::)

It makes me wanna buy more fimk, just waiting for dgex to resume trading.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Altcoin Agent on July 23, 2014, 08:29:52 AM
I've been running a paid FIMK promo on my Facebook page, ( voluntary, nobody's paying me for this ) here are the results after about 12 hours of the first day of seven :


https://www.facebook.com/altagent

For those of you who don't understand Dutch  :

9 status likes

Only ONE video view followed after a click on the link, but a reach of more then 17k people. That means 17k people saw the word FIMKRYPTO somewhere on Facebook. A clicktrough rate of one in more then 17k is abominable though, I wonder why it's that low. Does anyone have any thoughts on that ?

I did select parameters for the target group that seemed to make sense : I looked up the countries in the world with most bitcoin fans, selected only males, age 16-35.

Another little mystery is that the status update got 9 likes, but 8 of them did not click the video.  ???
Could these be people who have already seen it ?


BTW if anyone feels like tipping me some BTC for this little experiment to help me cover the 45euro cost : 1Gs3md5m3TjC5MjCSTeHq36tLi7ZiQbEQB not nessecary but welcome :)

Oh, and all the people who liked the post were guys younger then 20, all from Brazil ! I guess the 'mericans still have to wake up though, we might get many views soon.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: shenjie on July 24, 2014, 02:41:35 AM


HOWEVER, please let me state what has already been done differently:

- new generation unique POS p2p network with guaranteed block rewards every 30 secs
- national monthly citizen income plan with strong identification
- encrypted near instant messaging
- decentralized asset exchange prominently accessible within the native client
- smart token voting (under development)
- community incentives (automation installed soon)
- transactions broadcast in national radio network (funded & contracted, pilot commencing Sept 1st)
- public, amply funded non-profit association coordinated with 4-year progress plan
- stable distribution to 416 initial stakeholding accounts
- 533 BTC for organization's use in non-profit association funds
- co-operation contract for Bitcoin national visibility tour with radio advertisements
- no excessive stakeholder amounts posing future dumping hazards
- strong non-pyramid structure initial public pricing base with only 1.5x to 4x donations value
- offline arrangements for web merchants to begin accepting FIMK in August / September
- preliminary development projects for hardware authentication tokens and hardware merchant solutions
- preliminary arrangements to source and install FIMKrypto disbursement & exchange ATM machines nationwide
- connections standing by for implementation of credit card payments and pre-paid debit card disbursements
- prominent exchange arrangements with the project leader carrying main business interest and already functional connections
- discrete, non-exhaustive promotion efforts outlining just a few of the above aspects and leaving a lot of ammo for future pr.

Some undisclosed development projects we prefer to keep confidential.
Thank you for your understanding that it takes more than "this week" to deploy that bunch. We will keep you updated.
::)

已完成的与其他货币的不同点
1、   唯一的新一代POS机制点对点网络,每30秒生成收益确保的块。
2、   强力推进国民月收入计划。
3、   准即时加密通信
4、   初步完成本地客户端的去中心化资产交易接口。
5、   智能化令牌投票系统(开发中)
6、   社区激励(很快会实现自动安装)
7、   在国家无线电网络中广播交易(已注资、签约,九月一日起测试)
8、   非盈利组织公开募集到充足资金用来开展四年计划
9、   创世区块平稳分发到416个原始股东账户
10、   募集533个比特币以非盈利组织基金的形式供组织使用
11、   签署合作协议,以电台广告形式在国内宣传比特币
12、   创世股东非过度集中持有FIMK,避免将来的抛售风险
13、   创世股东1.5~4倍的上市价格构成坚实的非金字塔型的价格基础
14、   在八月或九月与网络商户签署线下合同,接受FIMK
15、   硬件授权令牌和硬件商业解决方案开发项目启动
16、   寻找可在全国安装FIMK提款和交易ATM机的生产厂家计划启动
17、   为完成对贷记卡和预付借记卡的支付,联系有关方面
18、   为把商业利益和FIMK已有的多种功能相连接,签署一系列重要的合同
19、   对以上项目做不定期的,非耗尽资源的推广活动,为以后的推广留够弹药。
一些保密开发项目,我们暂时保密。
大家应该理解,上述项目应该不仅仅局限于在“本周”完成,我们会随时保持更新。



Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: vishi_tup on July 24, 2014, 10:27:21 AM
is this coin dead?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Simakki on July 24, 2014, 10:33:11 AM
is this coin dead?

Are u stupid or what  ??? Just read previous posts....


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: yweetot on July 24, 2014, 10:35:02 AM
You can try to contact a gaming platform coin-ga.me, let them on your currency


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: vishi_tup on July 24, 2014, 10:46:43 AM
is this coin dead?

Are u stupid or what  ??? Just read previous posts....

are you idiot or what???


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Simakki on July 24, 2014, 10:59:26 AM
is this coin dead?

Are u stupid or what  ??? Just read previous posts....

are you idiot or what???

Whats ur problem? Stop spreading FUD, FIMK aint no dead as u can see clearly in those posts.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Hermann1337 on July 24, 2014, 11:16:32 AM
is this coin dead?

Are u stupid or what  ??? Just read previous posts....

are you idiot or what???

Dev posts news and you ask about death...
plz leave the coins alone and think about your fiat

seems to fit better for you


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: altcoin4u on July 24, 2014, 01:11:27 PM
I have run updates and restarted my desktop computer. Want to relaunch my FIMK Localhost wallet.
Java window has been closed. How can I reopen Java window so I can restart my wallet.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Vega on July 24, 2014, 03:32:21 PM
DGEX is scheduled to reopen on Friday August 1st 6pm GMT. Software development is delayed and DGEX is not willing to relaunch with parts of the previous infrastructure in place even when the weaker links requiring operator interaction have been obstructed. We are currently developing service structure that renders hacking of customer funds practically impossible. In fact customers will have control of their funds at all times through distributed client side Bitcoin / NXT / FIMK wallets accessible through the DGEX service and shared with its appropriate automation facilities.

We may expedite processing of some parts of DGEX such as funds withdrawals earlier next week, however customers will have access to their funds by Friday the latest. To our and our customer's fortune, cryptocurrency trading is generally slow these weeks, lessening the impact of the delays in getting DGEX properly online. Thank you for your patience and understanding.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: PilotofBTC on July 24, 2014, 03:52:30 PM
I have run updates and restarted my desktop computer. Want to relaunch my FIMK Localhost wallet.
Java window has been closed. How can I reopen Java window so I can restart my wallet.

There's not really a "java" window. Just start run.bat.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Altcoin Agent on July 24, 2014, 04:16:24 PM
Is anyone interested in the current tally of views, likes, etc for the promo I started ?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: vincentvincent on July 24, 2014, 06:38:09 PM
Is anyone interested in the current tally of views, likes, etc for the promo I started ?

I am!


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Altcoin Agent on July 24, 2014, 07:48:12 PM
Is anyone interested in the current tally of views, likes, etc for the promo I started ?

I am!


OK cool because I nearly cancelled it due to lack of interest. I don't even have any FIMK, this is purely as an experiment.

http://i57.tinypic.com/2e351k4.png

The trailer got some views today, and quite a few likes !



Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: altcoin4u on July 24, 2014, 09:20:22 PM
I have run updates and restarted my desktop computer. Want to relaunch my FIMK Localhost wallet.
Java window has been closed. How can I reopen Java window so I can restart my wallet.

There's not really a "java" window. Just start run.bat.

Thanks for the help. Understand. Regards


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: vishi_tup on July 24, 2014, 09:46:31 PM
DGEX is scheduled to reopen on Friday August 1st 6pm GMT. Software development is delayed and DGEX is not willing to relaunch with parts of the previous infrastructure in place even when the weaker links requiring operator interaction have been obstructed. We are currently developing service structure that renders hacking of customer funds practically impossible. In fact customers will have control of their funds at all times through distributed client side Bitcoin / NXT / FIMK wallets accessible through the DGEX service and shared with its appropriate automation facilities.

We may expedite processing of some parts of DGEX such as funds withdrawals earlier next week, however customers will have access to their funds by Friday the latest. To our and our customer's fortune, cryptocurrency trading is generally slow these weeks, lessening the impact of the delays in getting DGEX properly online. Thank you for your patience and understanding.

dgex is a piece of crap..if fimk has to survive it needs to get on other exchanges soon.. otherwise it will become another NAS/NFD


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: shenjie on July 25, 2014, 06:48:34 AM
DGEX is scheduled to reopen on Friday August 1st 6pm GMT. Software development is delayed and DGEX is not willing to relaunch with parts of the previous infrastructure in place even when the weaker links requiring operator interaction have been obstructed. We are currently developing service structure that renders hacking of customer funds practically impossible. In fact customers will have control of their funds at all times through distributed client side Bitcoin / NXT / FIMK wallets accessible through the DGEX service and shared with its appropriate automation facilities.

We may expedite processing of some parts of DGEX such as funds withdrawals earlier next week, however customers will have access to their funds by Friday the latest. To our and our customer's fortune, cryptocurrency trading is generally slow these weeks, lessening the impact of the delays in getting DGEX properly online. Thank you for your patience and understanding.

dgex is a piece of crap..if fimk has to survive it needs to get on other exchanges soon.. otherwise it will become another NAS/NFD

由于软件开发的耽误,DGEX计划在下周五8月1日GMT下午6点重开。即便由于运营者交互弱链接造成堵塞,d网也不会采用以前的架构,我们正在开发一种让黑客不可能侵入客户资金的服务架构。事实上客户将会全天候操控分布式比特币/NXT/FIMK钱包客户端,通过自动机制访问DGEX服务。
我们可能加快进程,让某些部分在下周早些时候先开放,比如客户资金的提现。无论如何,客户会在下周五进到自己的资金账户。如果幸运的话,加密货币交易这几周会普遍比较慢,缓释D网重开的延迟所带来的影响。感谢您的耐心和理解。


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: casx on July 25, 2014, 01:16:51 PM
devs.. are you serious? you let this coin without a exchangen.. for more than 2 weeks?? without having a plan b??


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: constary on July 25, 2014, 03:20:35 PM
devs.. are you serious? you let this coin without a exchangen.. for more than 2 weeks?? without having a plan b??
vote on bter


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: vishi_tup on July 25, 2014, 04:27:54 PM
devs.. are you serious? you let this coin without a exchangen.. for more than 2 weeks?? without having a plan b??

he got 500+ BTCs from IPO.. so no worries


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: rriky92 on July 25, 2014, 07:48:54 PM
i think there is a issue in the client, when i logout (without pressing logout & stop forging) i also stop forging! 0.2.2


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: LemonAndFries on July 25, 2014, 07:49:22 PM
are there any plans for another exchange listing?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Simakki on July 25, 2014, 08:24:14 PM
are there any plans for another exchange listing?

They have some ongoing plans to add FIMK to BTER, but i don´t know how´s that is working at the moment.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Primitive on July 26, 2014, 02:43:48 AM
the new DGEX re-open date is now August 1.  that will be over 2 weeks with no trading (17 days to be exact).

hoping for a calm re-open to trading.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: rjr on July 26, 2014, 12:14:49 PM
are there any plans for another exchange listing?

FIMK should try to get listed on the new CCEDK exchange in Denmark.  CCEDK is already exchanging NXT directly for Nordic fiat currencies.  If FIMK could also be directly exchanged for Nordic fiat currencies and the Euro, that would greatly improve its chances for success.

http://nxter.org/danish-bitcoin-exchange-ccedk-first-to-launch-nxt-fiat-gateway/

https://www.ccedk.com/nxt-btc

https://www.facebook.com/CCEDK

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=707555.0


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: dance on July 26, 2014, 12:56:56 PM
are there any plans for another exchange listing?

FIMK should try to get listed on the new CCEDK exchange in Denmark.  CCEDK is already exchanging NXT directly for Nordic fiat currencies.  If FIMK could also be directly exchanged for Nordic fiat currencies and the Euro, that would greatly improve its chances for success.

http://nxter.org/danish-bitcoin-exchange-ccedk-first-to-launch-nxt-fiat-gateway/

https://www.ccedk.com/nxt-btc

https://www.facebook.com/CCEDK

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=707555.0

That's a good idea. FIMK devs should contact CCEDK.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Money1X2 on July 27, 2014, 08:55:25 PM
Larga vida a FIMKrypto ;D

Yo También Voy a donar 22 FIM por cada bloque que haga.

Long live FIMKrypto; D

I will also donate 22 FIM per block that.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Hermann1337 on July 28, 2014, 11:20:09 AM
still only one exchange....

when this one will reopens fimk price will drop down like hell

why you guys dont get another exchange? this is no way to make a coin successfull


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Simakki on July 28, 2014, 11:24:16 AM
still only one exchange....

when this one will reopens fimk price will drop down like hell

why you guys dont get another exchange? this is no way to make a coin successfull

That´s my fear too, coin with market cap lower than half a million, the coin will easily be forgotten and how any Finn will claim their share if it will be worth nothing ?

But i still believe that devs know pretty well what they have planned!


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: BlackFor3st on July 28, 2014, 01:35:31 PM
when this one will reopens fimk price will drop down like hell
Why?
Stay cool...


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on July 28, 2014, 02:01:27 PM
That´s my fear too, coin with market cap lower than half a million, the coin will easily be forgotten and how any Finn will claim their share if it will be worth nothing ?
Be assured it will not be forgotten. 250k eur can do wonders in that regard...

Let me repeat once again that exchanges are not our main priority. FIMK's goal is not speculation. Utility is. Speculation is secondary to utility, and this is the order FIMK has marched to all along.

Never mind, I would also assume the exchange rate drops when FIMK is again publicly traded. It carries no significance whatsoever to FIMK's success. If it drops low, that reveals other opportunities.

FIMKrypto's headlining sponsorship to Finnish Bitcoin Tour has been announced today at http://bitcoinkiertue.fi/


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: quiglag on July 28, 2014, 08:41:54 PM
I am not worried if the price drops. If it does you can buy some extra forging power for cheap.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: dollux on July 29, 2014, 12:02:05 AM
Price don't bother me either they all go down before they go up or is it the higher they are the further they fall, anyway it don't matter to me so I agree with Eliphaz Fimk and quiglag, I like the idea of more cheap coins but it's not always true that the price will fall either, scarcity can create demand.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: shenjie on July 29, 2014, 06:46:32 AM
That´s my fear too, coin with market cap lower than half a million, the coin will easily be forgotten and how any Finn will claim their share if it will be worth nothing ?
Be assured it will not be forgotten. 250k eur can do wonders in that regard...

Let me repeat once again that exchanges are not our main priority. FIMK's goal is not speculation. Utility is. Speculation is secondary to utility, and this is the order FIMK has marched to all along.

Never mind, I would also assume the exchange rate drops when FIMK is again publicly traded. It carries no significance whatsoever to FIMK's success. If it drops low, that reveals other opportunities.

FIMKrypto's headlining sponsorship to Finnish Bitcoin Tour has been announced today at http://bitcoinkiertue.fi/

http://bitcoinkiertue.fi/?&lang=en

show error   ???


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: rommaz on July 29, 2014, 12:35:05 PM

FIMKrypto's headlining sponsorship to Finnish Bitcoin Tour has been announced today at http://bitcoinkiertue.fi/

Why there is no news about it on official site?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on July 29, 2014, 04:05:42 PM

Why there is no news about it on official site?

We didn't consider the sponsor deal, although considerable, a major announcement affecting web site visitors. However, the site may be updated soon to contain the info.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Happy_idiot on July 29, 2014, 05:00:22 PM
That´s my fear too, coin with market cap lower than half a million, the coin will easily be forgotten and how any Finn will claim their share if it will be worth nothing ?
Be assured it will not be forgotten. 250k eur can do wonders in that regard...

Let me repeat once again that exchanges are not our main priority. FIMK's goal is not speculation. Utility is. Speculation is secondary to utility, and this is the order FIMK has marched to all along.

Never mind, I would also assume the exchange rate drops when FIMK is again publicly traded. It carries no significance whatsoever to FIMK's success. If it drops low, that reveals other opportunities.

FIMKrypto's headlining sponsorship to Finnish Bitcoin Tour has been announced today at http://bitcoinkiertue.fi/
I really hope that this will impact as it should. Really hard to just being able to wait for and not being active part.
But you will do it good I believe :)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on July 29, 2014, 06:17:16 PM
Really hard to just being able to wait for and not being active part.
The very best way to help FIMKrypto's success is to contact merchants who could accept FIMK, or develop services that use FIMK.

This activity will be heavily subsidized in the near future.

Thanks for your trust.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Happy_idiot on July 29, 2014, 06:57:05 PM
Really hard to just being able to wait for and not being active part.
The very best way to help FIMKrypto's success is to contact merchants who could accept FIMK, or develop services that use FIMK.

This activity will be heavily subsidized in the near future.

Thanks for your trust.

Ok I will watch out for an opportunity to help. Maybe it is not much but anyway I think everybody should do what stands in his possibilities, right?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: scor2k on July 30, 2014, 06:52:22 AM
Hi all!

I have service of direct exchange NXT (https://nxtex.net) to fiat money (like PayPal, WebMoney, QIWI, Yandex.Money). We working (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=556947) from april 2014 with Russian users, and from July 2014 (https://nxtforum.org/trading-exchanges/nxtex-net-service-of-direct-exchange-nxt/) with English users too.

I can add FIMK as a new fund such as USD or RUR and you can exchange FIMK to NXT or NXT to FIMK. How to our service worked you can read here (https://nxtforum.org/trading-exchanges/nxtex-net-service-of-direct-exchange-nxt/) and here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=556947).

Thanks for your attention.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: xibeijan on July 30, 2014, 07:17:51 AM
Really hard to just being able to wait for and not being active part.
The very best way to help FIMKrypto's success is to contact merchants who could accept FIMK, or develop services that use FIMK.

This activity will be heavily subsidized in the near future.

Thanks for your trust.

It would be nice if you took steps to

1) get FIM onto an exchange (example: poloni, bter, mintpal, cryptsy)
2) set up a FIM multipool that mines alt coins and buys FIM on exchanges (benefits: allows miners to obtain FIM and supports price).
3) set up a FIM altcoin gateway and preconfigure FIMK with altcoin assets (example: BTC, DRK, LTC....).  Users can then trade altcoins on the FIM platform. (benefits: gets users really using the system, increases mining fees, creates an exchange where all trades are in the open, so everyone knows their is no cheating by exchange).

Item 3 should really help with utility.

You have all the IPO money, maybe a small fraction could be used to set up much needed services like these?

Not only will these three services be a huge help to FIM, but it will also show the project as active and increase peoples interest and participation... all this will help the price.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: abctc on July 30, 2014, 08:25:25 AM

For those, who want to trade FIM, I've created the FIM Gataway (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=633304.msg8097620#msg8097620) on Nxt Asset Exchange (AE):

Asset Name: 1000FIM

Asset ID: 12404894802398759379 (https://nxtblocks.info/#section/assets_exchange/12404894802398759379)

Each 1 asset represents 1000 FIM coins.

In order to sell your FIM coins on AE, first you need to get 1000FIM asset. To do this send your FIM coins to FIM-SESR-CDCR-F86V-A2ABQ with your FIMK wallet, and send an Arbitrary Message containing 1) your NXT address (in Reed-Solomon format) and 2) Public Key ("Account Balance" -> "More info").
(I'll send 5 NXT along with a 1000FIM assets to depositors who do not have any NXT, so that they will be able to place orders)

To guarantee smooth withdrawals, the amount of the 1000FIM assets in circulation (https://nxtblocks.info/#section/assets_exchange/stakeholders/12404894802398759379) will always be less then the balance of FIM-SESR-CDCR-F86V-A2ABQ (http://explorer.fimk.fi/accounts/FIM-SESR-CDCR-F86V-A2ABQ/).

To withdraw your 1000FIM assets transfer them to NXT-M667-6GVL-3JNZ-GRN96 _and_ in the attached message place your FIM address (in Reed Solomon format).

Deposit/Withdrawal time: 12 hours max., usually much faster.

Fees: currently 0% Deposits (!!), 0.5% Withdrawals (subject to change).

Minimum Deposit: 1000 FIM  (subject to change)

Minimum Withdrawal: 1000 FIM  (subject to change)


To trade on AE without local Nxt client you can use one of the public Nxt nodes:

http://217.17.88.5:7876/ (http://217.17.88.5:7876/)          http://vps4.nxtcrypto.org:7876/ (http://vps4.nxtcrypto.org:7876/)  
http://vps8.nxtcrypto.org:7876/ (http://vps8.nxtcrypto.org:7876/)   http://nxt.ravensbloodrealms.com:7876/ (http://nxt.ravensbloodrealms.com:7876/)
https://miasik.no-ip.org:7876/ (https://miasik.no-ip.org:7876/)    https://162.243.145.83:7876/ (https://162.243.145.83:7876/)


or use http://www.SecureAE.com/ web platform.


You can buy some FIM coins (1000FIM asset) on AE directly for BTC via http://www.SecureAE.com/ , or with NXT.
You can get some NXT for fiat at instant automated exchange https://coinomat.com/ , or at CCEDK (https://www.ccedk.com/nxt-usd) exchange (including North European currencies), or at p2p exchange https://nxtex.net/ (for PayPal, like at Localbitcoins). Or you can use cryptoexchanges like https://www.cryptsy.com/, https://poloniex.com/ ,  https://hitbtc.com/ .


Happy FIMK trading!




Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on July 30, 2014, 08:34:32 AM
I have service of direct exchange NXT (https://nxtex.net) to fiat money (like PayPal, WebMoney, QIWI, Yandex.Money). We working (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=556947) from april 2014 with Russian users, and from July 2014 (https://nxtforum.org/trading-exchanges/nxtex-net-service-of-direct-exchange-nxt/) with English users too.

I can add FIMK as a new fund such as USD or RUR and you can exchange FIMK to NXT or NXT to FIMK. How to our service worked you can read here (https://nxtforum.org/trading-exchanges/nxtex-net-service-of-direct-exchange-nxt/) and here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=556947).
Thanks for your attention.

By all means, please go ahead. I think you stand an absolutely impressive first mover advantage if you do so right now.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: scor2k on July 30, 2014, 08:41:15 AM
I have service of direct exchange NXT (https://nxtex.net) to fiat money (like PayPal, WebMoney, QIWI, Yandex.Money). We working (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=556947) from april 2014 with Russian users, and from July 2014 (https://nxtforum.org/trading-exchanges/nxtex-net-service-of-direct-exchange-nxt/) with English users too.

I can add FIMK as a new fund such as USD or RUR and you can exchange FIMK to NXT or NXT to FIMK. How to our service worked you can read here (https://nxtforum.org/trading-exchanges/nxtex-net-service-of-direct-exchange-nxt/) and here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=556947).
Thanks for your attention.
By all means, please go ahead. I think you stand an absolutely impressive first mover advantage if you do so right now.
Can I get some donation from infrastructure or marketing committee for this? I can add FIMK tomorrow morning (UTC+4).


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on July 30, 2014, 08:59:02 AM
Can I get some donation from infrastructure or marketing committee for this? I can add FIMK tomorrow morning (UTC+4).
Sure. The amount needs to be decided when we have seen the effect of your exchange, but I would estimate minimum of 100 000 FIM if your service is useful.

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3) set up a FIM altcoin gateway and preconfigure FIMK with altcoin assets (example: BTC, DRK, LTC....).  Users can then trade altcoins on the FIM platform. (benefits: gets users really using the system, increases mining fees, creates an exchange where all trades are in the open, so everyone knows their is no cheating by exchange)
This has been in the works since early July. Unfortunately development is often slowed down by unforeseen circumstances, unless you do everything yourself, and there's just that much I can stretch to myself.

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2) set up a FIM multipool that mines alt coins and buys FIM on exchanges (benefits: allows miners to obtain FIM and supports price).
You know any competitive programmer / team capable and willing to do this, for a nice compensation?

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You have all the IPO money, maybe a small fraction could be used to set up much needed services like these?
Indeed a fraction is already continuously used. The monies are not laying around idle. Services and contracts are paid for every week. The results will be visible in the following months.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: scor2k on July 30, 2014, 09:05:45 AM
Can I get some donation from infrastructure or marketing committee for this? I can add FIMK tomorrow morning (UTC+4).
Sure. The amount needs to be decided when we have seen the effect of your exchange, but I would estimate minimum of 100 000 FIM if your service is useful.
Ok.

Let's try. When I add FIMK on our service (https://nxtex.net), i'll write about it in this topic. Effect of our exchange service is depends only on the activity of the participants :)

P.S. Can you give me some FIMK for tests? FIM-NYH6-9K9L-8XTA-DJBL5


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: PL_CoinTrader on July 30, 2014, 09:26:33 AM
I'm looking forward to see Fimk on nxtex! This could also draw some attention to your exchange because it would be the only one in the moment that trades Fimk.
I'll send you some testfimk.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: scor2k on July 30, 2014, 09:55:00 AM
I'm looking forward to see Fimk on nxtex! This could also draw some attention to your exchange because it would be the only one in the moment that trades Fimk.
I'll send you some testfimk.
I've been received FIMK, thanks.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: FietsLondon on July 30, 2014, 11:26:20 AM
I live in London and a friend of mine and I recently took up cycling and found that once we started looking for decent 2nd hand bikes that they are very hard to find within a easy traveling distance from where we both live. This prompted us to start playing around with the idea of opening a 2nd hand bike shop in London as there are not many other services like this.

What we are thinking is of opening a crypto Bike shop that accepts BTC, NXT and FIMK.

We think this is a great opportunity for crypto currencies to get more exposure and seeing as London is so diverse and cosmopolitan it probably the best city to do it.

We need about £10k to start it up and we want to open this opportunity up to any one world wide that wants to get involved in any way shape or form. If your interested please send us a pm

We need some advice on:
How do you set up a system to accept crypto payments
Recommendations for a reliable escrow service


Really hard to just being able to wait for and not being active part.
The very best way to help FIMKrypto's success is to contact merchants who could accept FIMK, or develop services that use FIMK.

This activity will be heavily subsidized in the near future.

Thanks for your trust.

Is this project something the devs or community would consider subsidizing?


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: scor2k on July 30, 2014, 11:27:22 AM
We added FIMKrypto to our service (https://nxtex.net)! Let's try to trade :) First order (https://nxtex.net/show.php?tr=13579787131973387495) for example...

Helpdesk: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=556947


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: PL_CoinTrader on July 30, 2014, 11:42:37 AM
We added FIMKrypto to our service (https://nxtex.net)! Let's try to trade :) First order (https://nxtex.net/show.php?tr=13579787131973387495) for example...

Helpdesk: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=556947

Wow, that was fast! I'm going to try it out. :)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: scor2k on July 30, 2014, 12:10:36 PM
We added FIMKrypto to our service (https://nxtex.net)! Let's try to trade :) First order (https://nxtex.net/show.php?tr=13579787131973387495) for example...

Helpdesk: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=556947

Wow, that was fast! I'm going to try it out. :)

I want to remind that our exchange service is p2p, not automatic exchange :)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: Eliphaz Fimk on July 30, 2014, 02:56:16 PM
We added FIMKrypto to our service (https://nxtex.net)! Let's try to trade :) First order (https://nxtex.net/show.php?tr=13579787131973387495) for example...
Helpdesk: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=556947
Excellent. You may want to post on the main channel of FIMKrypto users, http://forum.fimk.fi

Is this project something the devs or community would consider subsidizing?
Yes, mostly in the form of technical resources to accept an possibly convert to BTC or EUR the FIMK received.

Heavy subsidization means a high number of modest reward incentives for incoming merchants / referrers of such, NOT large funds invested or contributed into merchant operations unfortunately.


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: jlaws on July 30, 2014, 03:10:23 PM
looks like we've lost a little momentum on the bter voting. Come on guys. With a community as great as this, we should definitely be on the the top of that list! :D


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: scor2k on July 30, 2014, 03:27:53 PM
We added FIMKrypto to our service (https://nxtex.net)! Let's try to trade :) First order (https://nxtex.net/show.php?tr=13579787131973387495) for example...
Helpdesk: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=556947
Excellent. You may want to post on the main channel of FIMKrypto users, http://forum.fimk.fi


Can you post link to discussion and topic of helpdesk (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=556947) on main forum? I don't have an account on this forum yet.

UPD. Thanks :)


Title: Re: [ANN] FIMKrypto: NXT spinoff 30s blocks, POW-like rewards, national income *FIMK
Post by: abctc on July 31, 2014, 07:04:04 AM
The first trade of 1000FIM has occurred yesterday: https://nxtblocks.info/#section/assets_exchange/market/12404894802398759379
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Recent Trades
Date Type Quantity Price Total AskOrderId BidOrderId
2014-07-30 13:18:12 Buy 4.9        39.9 195.51 1493739874171191858 9429237637700683162

which translates to the price 0.0000029 BTC/FIM, which is close to the last price at DGex.

The buyer already has 16 assets in his/her portfolio! You even can google that account and find correspondent nickname.

For those who do not aware: the trading at Asset Exchange is safe and trustless, because the trade occurs in a single transaction.
And Asset Exchange cannot be suspended (like DGex) or hacked, or collapsed (like shareXcoin).

The only threat is that the issuer may refuse to withdraw. But I will not - please check my profiles at BTT (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=147961) and nxtforum (https://nxtforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=15).

You always can check the amount of FIM coins in the gateaway account: FIM-SESR-CDCR-F86V-A2ABQ (http://80.240.143.139/accounts/FIM-SESR-CDCR-F86V-A2ABQ/)  and compare it with the amount of the 1000FIM in circulation: https://nxtblocks.info/#section/assets_exchange/stakeholders/12404894802398759379



For those, who want to trade FIM, I've creared the FIM Gataway on Nxt Asset Exchange (AE):

Asset Name: 1000FIM

Asset ID: 12404894802398759379 (https://nxtblocks.info/#section/assets_exchange/12404894802398759379)

Each 1 asset represents 1000 FIM coins.

In order to sell your FIM coins on AE, first you need to get 1000FIM asset. To do this send your FIM coins to FIM-SESR-CDCR-F86V-A2ABQ with FIMK wallet, _and_ send an Arbitrary Message containing your NXT address (in Reed Solomon format) to the same address (FIM-SESR-CDCR-F86V-A2ABQ).

To guarantee smooth withdrawals, the amount of the 1000FIM assets in circulation will always be less then the balance of FIM-SESR-CDCR-F86V-A2ABQ (http://80.240.143.139/accounts/FIM-SESR-CDCR-F86V-A2ABQ/).

To withdraw your 1000FIM assets transfer them to NXT-M667-6GVL-3JNZ-GRN96 _and_ in the attached message place your FIM address (in Reed Solomon format).

Deposit/Withdrawal time: 12 hours max., usually much faster.

Fees: currently 0.5% Deposits, 0.5% Withdrawals (subject to change).

Minimum Deposit: 1000 FIM  (subject to change)

Minimum Withdrawal