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Just a warning to everyone.  I started to work with anush3070 and was promised a 48 hour turnaround for a couple of coins.  It's been exactly 1 month and day after day I am told that he needs just 48 hours more.  He met a milestone halfway into the project so I made the big mistake of paying him partially .8 BTC for his work.  Another week has passed with no further work to show for it.  I asked him for a refund because he was a month passed his promise date and he said he doesn't have it, it's all spent.  Now he is apparently having power issues and can't talk.
 
This is my fault for paying him but just wanted to warn everyone.  I am out almost $500 with nothing to show for it.  Again, my fault but just wanted to put the warning out.


http://blockexplorer.com/tx/6a2d9fc954ccba7cc27489570a89a82bee7612d60b911623202d73ac812b41ae#o0

https://cryptocointalk.com/topic/6135-want-to-make-your-own-cryptocurrency-starting-at-just-009-btc/

anush3070@gmail.com

What's his handle on this forum? I stay clear.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=214621

Handle: anush3070

I just added to his feedback.  Now it gives me a warning  :-\

Oh well, live and learn.  I take full responsibility but just thought I would put a warning out.

post this in scam accusation thread so that he does scam others . Better use escrow next time.

I can make you a coin for half of 0.8 :) . Always remember to use Escrow.

First I think this belongs to scam accusation section

Secondly
To stay out of trouble in future bookmark the link below
OFFICIAL ESCROW THREAD
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=108716.0

This is his Facebook id i guess
https://www.facebook.com/Anush.3D
But I don't think he will make any efforts now..! thanks for the heads up

Started to work with you.. You had ordered 2 coins out of which 1 coin was delivered and the payment was for that. Now even after delivering the coin you call it a scam then how am I supposed to be blamed?
The total amount was 2.4 btc. 1.2 btc for each coin. I have proofs that you took the coin and paid me 0.8 btc for the first coin. Then why are you in a loss here?

The facebook id is:

https://www.facebook.com/anush3070

:)

Also You paid on June 2, 2014.

So its been 12 days not 1 month.

Also here is the screenshot that I had sent you :)

http://postimg.org/image/m9w33q32v/ (http://postimg.org/image/m9w33q32v/)

1. What was the original agreement?
2. When was it started/delivered?
3. Was anything changed from the original agreement?
4. Does it work as it should?
5. If it works, what is the problem? If it does not work, why?

1) May 11th agreement, 48 Hours to deliver 2 coins for 2.6 BTC (Also include BCE, nodes and multiple wallets).  Logos and information submitted on May 12.  As the days and weeks go by I keep checking in for updates.  Every time he states, it's almost done, "another 48Hrs" needed.
2) 3 weeks late submits 1 coin half finished riddled with errors.  The functionality seems to work but there are typos all over the wallet, branding incorrect etc.  On good faith I made a partial payment of .8 BTC for his work thus far.  He states the the next coin is just 24Hrs away.  Days go by, then a week.  I asked for a refund, he stated that it was spent and gone.  But he just needs another 48Hrs and it will be complete.  Deadline is today, his first message to me was that his power was out.  He has no way to work.  This is even after an additional 12 hours beyond his own deadline.
3. Nothing changed except his deadlines moved daily.  He must have promised another "48Hrs" about 20 times.
4. The coin in it's current state is not useable.  I trashed it.
5. Again, riddled with errors unusable.

Also, I should have used escrow and did a better job on homework.  I found another thread here. https://bitcointa.lk/threads/want-to-make-your-own-cryptocurrency-starting-at-just-0-09-btc.266964/

In March there was a complaint.  I should have known better before giving him the benefit of the doubt.  But I figured I would reward him for the work he has been doing in good faith.

Other than this main issue he seems like a competent programmer who is knowledgeable.  I guess that's only half of the equation.  At least it was only .8 and not 2.6.  Ouch

Anyhow, Thanks

He claims you didn't ask him for a refund, and then says he sent you a coin so a refund is out of the question. I'm not sure how that makes any sense. Do you perhaps have any evidence you asked for a refund, like PMs that align with the dates?

SKYPE CHATS

[6/9/14, 4:46:40 PM] teknikk7: ?
[6/9/14, 5:37:32 PM] teknikk7: Any updates?
[6/9/14, 6:09:02 PM] teknikk7: Possible to get my money back since neither project has been completed?  The original estimate was 48 Hours.  All information was submitted to you on Tuesday May 13th.  It's almost a month...?
[6/10/14, 10:47:56 AM] teknikk7: This is beginning to feel like a scam
[6/10/14, 10:48:03 AM] [n0r] 3D: hey
[6/10/14, 10:48:05 AM] [n0r] 3D: m here..
[6/10/14, 10:48:07 AM] [n0r] 3D: Listen
[6/10/14, 10:48:17 AM] [n0r] 3D: I consulted few of my frnds..
[6/10/14, 10:48:29 AM] [n0r] 3D: one of em suggested the changes
[6/10/14, 10:48:35 AM] [n0r] 3D: so I asked him to fix it..
[6/10/14, 10:48:54 AM] [n0r] 3D: I request you to give me another 48 Hours.
[6/10/14, 10:49:10 AM] [n0r] 3D: coz he has started to fix it already.
[6/10/14, 10:49:27 AM] [n0r] 3D: we acctly had to remake the whole code..
[6/10/14, 10:49:33 AM] [n0r] 3D: as there were some problems..
[6/10/14, 10:49:59 AM] [n0r] 3D: but I guarantee you that you will get complete project  by 48 hours
[6/10/14, 10:50:22 AM] teknikk7: what if you don't?  Can we start to reduce the price?
[6/10/14, 10:50:40 AM] [n0r] 3D: yes if its not done by 48 hours
[6/10/14, 10:50:44 AM] [n0r] 3D: you can do that Smiley
[6/10/14, 10:50:49 AM] teknikk7: ok
[6/11/14, 10:54:36 AM] teknikk7: 48 Hours.
[6/11/14, 10:55:33 AM] [n0r] 3D: yes m aware Smiley
[6/11/14, 10:56:51 AM] teknikk7: So..
[6/11/14, 10:56:54 AM] teknikk7: are they finished?
[6/11/14, 10:57:34 AM] [n0r] 3D: nah... still working... a good progress though Smiley
[6/11/14, 10:58:23 AM] teknikk7: Can I get a refund?
[6/11/14, 10:58:43 AM] [n0r] 3D: mate I asked u that time.. please give that time... Sad
[6/11/14, 10:58:54 AM] [n0r] 3D: I have already worked a lot for this..
[6/11/14, 10:59:15 AM] teknikk7: I did.  When you asked me for 48 hours.  It was 48 hours and 9 minutes ago
[6/11/14, 11:03:06 AM] teknikk7: So if not completed by tomorrow can I have my money back? Is that fair?
[6/11/14, 11:03:18 AM] teknikk7: Since it's been a month.
[6/11/14, 11:03:44 AM] [n0r] 3D: you said price decrease but I think yes if I cant deliver 2moro . !
[6/11/14, 11:04:53 AM] teknikk7: It's been a month.  You said 48hrs.  I can't just sit here waiting.  I need to move on and get this done.  I have deadlines
[6/11/14, 11:05:14 AM] [n0r] 3D: yeah as I said.. the last 24 hours is all required..
[6/11/14, 11:06:09 AM] teknikk7: ok, thanks
[6/12/14, 11:06:49 AM] teknikk7: update?
[6/12/14, 11:23:57 AM] teknikk7:  BTC: 1Hyx3bUQxEYgmbvmaA9ryyuW2qUypSG4k6
[6/12/14, 11:24:07 AM] teknikk7: Please return money.
[6/12/14, 11:45:55 AM] teknikk7: Over 48hrs.
[6/12/14, 11:52:00 AM] [n0r] 3D: hey
[6/12/14, 11:52:07 AM] [n0r] 3D: its working since an hour..
[6/12/14, 11:52:16 AM] [n0r] 3D: just want to be sure about any problem
[6/12/14, 11:52:21 AM] [n0r] 3D: had crashed once
[6/12/14, 11:52:29 AM] [n0r] 3D: so want to check for few more hours..
[6/12/14, 11:52:34 AM] [n0r] 3D: lemme just test it
[6/12/14, 11:52:40 AM] [n0r] 3D: I will give u by my morning.
[6/12/14, 11:52:44 AM] teknikk7: Send it.
[6/12/14, 11:52:56 AM] [n0r] 3D: I cant its still crashing..
[6/12/14, 11:53:03 AM] [n0r] 3D: and I did not build a static build
[6/12/14, 11:53:04 AM] [n0r] 3D: so once I have recompiled a static build I can send it..
[6/12/14, 11:53:09 AM] [n0r] 3D: I built an open one..
[6/12/14, 11:53:10 AM] [n0r] 3D: just hold on for 12 hours . !
[6/12/14, 11:53:17 AM] [n0r] 3D: dont worry.. wont let u down Smiley
[6/12/14, 11:53:30 AM] teknikk7: I can't wait any longer.  Tomorrow is 1 month!
[6/12/14, 11:53:39 AM] teknikk7: Do you see the problem?
[6/12/14, 11:54:46 AM] [n0r] 3D: that is last for sure
[6/12/14, 11:55:02 AM] teknikk7: I can't.  You have said that about 20 times
[6/12/14, 11:55:08 AM] [n0r] 3D: coz evn I had paid my friend for all the work..
[6/12/14, 11:55:14 AM] [n0r] 3D: just let me test it
[6/12/14, 11:55:17 AM] [n0r] 3D: please !
[6/12/14, 11:55:31 AM] [n0r] 3D: and I had given some work too earlier..
[6/12/14, 11:55:38 AM] [n0r] 3D: please trust me for some few hours
[6/12/14, 11:55:47 AM] teknikk7: Send me .8 BTC.  When you complete I will send you 2.4 in full.
[6/12/14, 11:56:04 AM] [n0r] 3D: I dont have 0.8 BTC right nw :S
[6/12/14, 11:56:10 AM] teknikk7: I sent to you when you asked.
[6/12/14, 11:56:15 AM] teknikk7: for trust and I did
[6/12/14, 11:56:25 AM] [n0r] 3D: see.. I wont break the trust..
[6/12/14, 11:56:36 AM] [n0r] 3D: just give me this last time !
[6/12/14, 11:56:37 AM] teknikk7: You already did
[6/12/14, 11:56:45 AM] teknikk7: look back on the history
[6/12/14, 11:56:50 AM] teknikk7: promise after promise
[6/12/14, 11:57:01 AM] [n0r] 3D: see I had given u some work too.. !
[6/12/14, 11:57:16 AM] teknikk7: its not finished, full of mistakes
[6/12/14, 11:57:17 AM] [n0r] 3D: so really just let me work on this last part.. !
[6/12/14, 11:57:37 AM] [n0r] 3D: I will give that fixed one too in 12 hours.. wont be a problem
[6/12/14, 11:57:49 AM] [n0r] 3D: I would have all the promised part ready !
[6/12/14, 11:59:26 AM] teknikk7: If it's not all done and complete.  I will have to start posting online to warn people.  I feel it is only right.  Keep the .8, whatever.  I guess that is how you make money by lying.

Submitted Files:

[5/12/14, 7:13:02 PM] [n0r] 3D: emailed?
[5/13/14, 11:11:11 AM] teknikk7: Sent
[5/13/14, 11:44:30 AM] [n0r] 3D: Got


Red Flags:  Wow, now that I compile them I feel like a complete dumb ass.  Never again.

[5/20/14, 11:33:09 AM] teknikk7: Any updates?
[5/20/14, 10:30:09 PM] [n0r] 3D: will finish in 48 Hours

[5/23/14, 9:54:56 AM] [n0r] 3D: Hey.. Wud be delayed by 24 hours more... Please bear with me....
[5/23/14, 9:55:13 AM] [n0r] 3D: Is it Ok?
[5/23/14, 11:48:53 AM] teknikk7: Yes
[5/23/14, 11:48:57 AM] teknikk7: How is it going?
[5/23/14, 11:49:14 AM] teknikk7: Thanks for the update

[5/26/14, 12:02:50 AM] teknikk7: was originally 48 hours about a week ago
[5/26/14, 12:02:55 AM] [n0r] 3D: yeah

[5/28/14, 3:51:24 PM] [n0r] 3D: hello m still on it..
[5/28/14, 3:51:33 PM] [n0r] 3D: will give you an update by today
[5/28/14, 3:51:41 PM] [n0r] 3D: I think I will finish today :)
[5/28/14, 3:52:04 PM] teknikk7: hmm, ok.  This is the 4th delay
[5/28/14, 3:52:07 PM] teknikk7: ok

[5/30/14, 3:17:38 PM] [n0r] 3D: dont worry will surely finish today anyhow :)
[5/30/14, 3:18:00 PM] [n0r] 3D: Got ill.. so kudnt work ! :(
[5/30/14, 3:18:41 PM] [n0r] 3D: neways I will 100% complete it today :)
[5/30/14, 3:18:44 PM] [n0r] 3D: in 24 hours. !
[5/30/14, 3:18:54 PM] teknikk7: Both coins?
[5/30/14, 3:18:59 PM] [n0r] 3D: yep both

[5/31/14, 4:53:51 PM] teknikk7: When will you send the files?  The two windows wallets?
[5/31/14, 4:53:52 PM] [n0r] 3D: i see its 4:54 PM there
[5/31/14, 4:54:04 PM] [n0r] 3D: by 1 hour max I suppose.

[5/31/14, 8:59:10 PM] teknikk7: Hows it going?
[5/31/14, 9:19:43 PM] [n0r] 3D: hey
[5/31/14, 9:19:55 PM] [n0r] 3D: the wallet I made is crashing for some reason..
[5/31/14, 9:20:02 PM] [n0r] 3D: trying to figure out...
[5/31/14, 9:20:34 PM] [n0r] 3D: If I kudnt right now.. I would finish it off in 12 hours.. since I thinks its necessary for me to sleep now :(
[5/31/14, 9:26:03 PM] teknikk7: Sleep.

[5/31/14, 9:26:47 PM] [n0r] 3D: I will wake up in 6 hours
[5/31/14, 9:26:50 PM] [n0r] 3D: and send you
[5/31/14, 9:26:52 PM] [n0r] 3D: :)
[5/31/14, 9:26:55 PM] [n0r] 3D: ok ?
[5/31/14, 9:28:06 PM] teknikk7: ok
[6/1/14, 12:17:24 PM] teknikk7: Did not get email, did you send?
[6/1/14, 2:26:28 PM] teknikk7: ?

[6/2/14, 9:22:07 PM] teknikk7: What do you think the ETA is for all the small fixes
[6/2/14, 9:22:42 PM] [n0r] 3D: 24 hours would be ok ? :)
[6/2/14, 9:22:58 PM] [n0r] 3D: for everything

[6/3/14, 9:51:24 AM] teknikk7: hows it goin
[6/3/14, 12:59:44 PM] teknikk7: Any updates?
[6/3/14, 7:52:05 PM] [n0r] 3D: just few parts delayed.
[6/3/14, 7:52:16 PM] [n0r] 3D: but will finish all with fixes in some hours

[6/4/14, 8:35:24 AM] teknikk7: Been 12 hours.  Anything?
[6/4/14, 2:02:11 PM] teknikk7: Can I get a ETA?
[6/4/14, 2:24:09 PM] teknikk7: Ok, going to start looking for other programmers.   Too many delays.

[6/5/14, 2:57:09 PM] teknikk7: think we can get thos done today?
[6/5/14, 2:57:21 PM] [n0r] 3D: obviously :)
[6/5/14, 6:00:31 PM] teknikk7: hows it looking?
[6/5/14, 6:42:15 PM] [n0r] 3D: the decrypting dint work
[6/5/14, 6:42:28 PM] [n0r] 3D: so finishing the coding in some time
[6/5/14, 7:27:34 PM] teknikk7: whats some time?

[6/5/14, 11:34:39 PM] teknikk7: I am going to have to put a hard deadline by this Saturday 7th.  At that point I will need to look for another programmer.  Just wanted to let you know.  Thank you for the work you have done this far.
[6/6/14, 2:57:04 AM] [n0r] 3D: ohk I understand.. the problems
[6/6/14, 2:57:12 AM] [n0r] 3D: I will finish it anyhow ASAP

[6/6/14, 6:59:59 PM] [n0r] 3D: will wake up in 7 hours.
[6/6/14, 7:00:09 PM] [n0r] 3D: mostly the Genesis will work now ;)
[6/6/14, 7:00:14 PM] [n0r] 3D: lets wait 7 hours ?
[6/6/14, 7:00:21 PM] [n0r] 3D: I will sleep till then..
[6/6/14, 7:00:32 PM] [n0r] 3D: the genesis will anyway take approx 5 hours
[6/6/14, 7:00:41 PM] teknikk7: Looks like we have no choice.  But after tomorrow I will need to move on.  Thanks

[6/6/14, 7:01:00 PM] [n0r] 3D: dont worry.. By today I will give you the result.
[6/6/14, 7:01:14 PM] [n0r] 3D: give me till your 2moro's night time
[6/6/14, 7:01:25 PM] teknikk7: ok
[6/6/14, 7:01:26 PM] teknikk7: Thanks

[6/7/14, 6:15:07 PM] [n0r] 3D: hey
[6/7/14, 6:15:13 PM] [n0r] 3D: can you get me one more day ?? :S
[6/7/14, 6:15:31 PM] [n0r] 3D: I think I can give the mac wallet..
[6/7/14, 6:15:40 PM] [n0r] 3D: but windows might take time :(

[6/7/14, 6:26:42 PM] teknikk7: I mean sure but I need to start looking for programmers tonight.  I will keep you updated.
[6/7/14, 6:26:55 PM] teknikk7: If I find someone I will let you know so you don't waste any time
[6/7/14, 6:27:14 PM] [n0r] 3D: but m sure to complete by 2moro.. !!
[6/7/14, 6:27:30 PM] [n0r] 3D: coz all is done..
[6/7/14, 6:27:33 PM] [n0r] 3D: I can show u proofs..

[6/7/14, 6:28:02 PM] teknikk7: You have to understand where I am coming from. I have deadlines.  This is way over due.  almost a month
[6/7/14, 6:28:27 PM] [n0r] 3D: I understand.. but one more day wont be much right ??
[6/7/14, 6:28:42 PM] [n0r] 3D: Start looking 2moro if I cant
[6/7/14, 6:28:50 PM] [n0r] 3D: I assure u that 2moro all will be ready. !
[6/7/14, 6:28:54 PM] teknikk7: ok, thats fair
[6/7/14, 6:29:12 PM] [n0r] 3D: so can I consider that I will get one more day's time ?
[6/7/14, 6:29:25 PM] teknikk7: yes

[6/8/14, 2:57:20 PM] teknikk7: Any updates?
[6/8/14, 2:57:36 PM] [n0r] 3D: will give u in 1 hour ;)

http://www.datafilehost.com/d/84c0b838

here is the link to the 1st Coin.
you can download and check of how much its Incomplete as he claims :)

Also the Wallet Works as I tested it had all features.
The problems were:

Few Texts that needed changes like for example its written Litecoin in about us maybe so it needs to be Umbrella-LTC.

The total as he said was: 2.6 BTC

Which means 1.3 BTC each coin.

I delivered the 1st coin wallet which entitles 1.3 BTC out of which 0.8 Was paid and I would have given the source code as well as the MAC wallet if he had paid 0.5 more which makes it 1.3 BTC.

Since that was not the case so I agreed up in finishing the Umbrella-BTC which took lot of time, and also I was updating him DAY by DAY, never have I failed to respond him. Then How am I a scammer ?

anush3070, do you dispute any of the chat text that was  posted? If not, it looks like you kept moving the goal posts on the time. It also looks like you were in over your head and had a friend bail you out. If the chat text is valid, you need to reduce the price as per your agreement as you were way over the agreed time frame.
If the coin is unusable, you need to provide a full refund as you didn't fulfill the original agreement.

This isn't anything new as you can read here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=529244.0

I gave the link for the QT and it was completely usable with the exact features he asked anyone can test and verify. ! Also thats fine with me reducing the cost. But even that wasnt said later, it was a direct scam accusation. Also if anyone could check the QT then they can see its a finished QT. ! That is why the Refund is not possible. Also if anyone want to review the source code, feel free to PM me. !

Thanks for your involvement KWH, at this point I am chalking this up as a loss.  I don't expect any refund, I am sure it is gone and spent until he can scam someone else for more.  Part of the agreement was support.  So even if he did fix one of the wallets last minute, I would never use it because I simply would not want to ask him for support.  This is business, you can't simply move deadlines at will, let alone for a month.  I asked for a refund a couple times as you can see, he would not provide it.  Each and every time I had to chase him down for information.  He never once offered a status update on his own.  I have a couple options that I am looking into on my end to try and get some resolution.  None of which I want to talk about on these forums. If the mods can close this thread that would be great.  I just wanted to put the warning out, thats all.

Thanks again. 

now this is an utter lie. I did not fix it last minute.. ask him the copy of wallet I sent him.. That will prove all. Also I gave him support day by day. The only thing I dint msg him first was that he appeared to be offline, it was the time zone difference but never have I failed to reply him. So its not the support that has problem. ! I gave him the first coin and it cant be refunded for the work done I suppose !

You sound just like that Apocalipsis guy. I don't think you understand fully what a refund is. Yes, you did work on it, but he's still entitled to a refund.

anush3070 has agreed to a full refund.  He said he needs a few days to process.  If this goes through, I will be updating all my threads.

No payment yet.  I Will keep this thread updated.

just another 12/24/48 hours, right?

Yea, nothing yet.  Not holding my breath.

Customer Feedback

I placed an order with anush3070 and upon receiving the coin source and compiled wallet-qt I am pleased with the finished product.

They met my specifications and was delivered mine-able ready without any blocks except the genesis block mined. Which is good because I was worried I would receive a coin that had been pre-mined.

The node has stayed up since launch and I am over all happy with the purchase.

Since we conducted our transaction without escrow trust was an issue but after receiving the coin source and wallet-qt before I sent payment I was relieved.

As with all projects difficulties arose and communication over the internet can be fuzzy at times, still I would personally recommend anush3070 to friends in the future.

For reference the whole transaction took about a week from start to finish.

On Sun, Jun 14, 2014 at 2:05 AM, Anush Shetty <anush3070@gmail.com> wrote:

Hey,
If you need the refund, As it will take 1 week for my account to be funded. ! For 1 week that reputation if exist on Bitcointalk then I dont think I can make any further business even after the 1 week. I would have lost all :)
If you can remove it today I can guarantee you a refund in 1 week or less as I will get few Clients too maybe. Removing it after 1 week is pointless for me. !
So lemme know what you decide !

--
Regards,
Anush Shetty

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Last response from Anush Shetty.  He no longer responds to emails and has again, lied.  It's been 13 days since the promise of a refund.  Psynpase, what coin did you order? 

Yeah you really need to do research first...I think its really a scam...