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Title: Is the manipulator drunk?
Post by: Mushoz on February 22, 2012, 10:25:24 PM
Place your votes :p


Title: Re: Is the manipulator drunk?
Post by: yogi on February 22, 2012, 10:27:33 PM
He just wants to keep the price down while he buys back in.


Title: Re: Is the manipulator drunk?
Post by: pirateat40 on February 22, 2012, 10:28:31 PM
Where'd all the rum go?


Title: Re: Is the manipulator drunk?
Post by: teflone on February 22, 2012, 10:29:38 PM
rum was yesterday, we are on the rye..


Title: Re: Is the manipulator drunk?
Post by: proudhon on February 22, 2012, 10:30:03 PM
I think he's just fucking around for the fun of it.  I mean really...this is just goofy.


Title: Re: Is the manipulator drunk?
Post by: Qoheleth on February 22, 2012, 10:32:23 PM
I think he's just fucking around for the fun of it.  I mean really...this is just goofy.
https://i.imgur.com/q5xcK.jpg


Title: Re: Is the manipulator drunk?
Post by: teflone on February 22, 2012, 10:33:00 PM
Invalidating trading signals...



Title: Re: Is the manipulator drunk?
Post by: M4v3R on February 22, 2012, 10:33:09 PM
He just let the price go up to rebuild bid depth, so he can sell more at better prices. There are already few k drops here and there, and a bigger one (from the owner of 10-20k ask walls) probably will follow. Fasten your seatbelts! :)


Title: Re: Is the manipulator drunk?
Post by: Mushoz on February 22, 2012, 10:41:55 PM
He just let the price go up to rebuild bid depth, so he can sell more at better prices. There are already few k drops here and there, and a bigger one (from the owner of 10-20k ask walls) probably will follow. Fasten your seatbelts! :)

Then why would he drop down the walls slowly but surely by 1 cent steps each time, while he could just keep the wall a bit higher to let Bids replenish again? Doesn't make sense if he really wants to sell. He's just putting on downward pressure, without actually selling much if anything at all.


Title: Re: Is the manipulator drunk?
Post by: Koekiemonster on February 22, 2012, 10:43:11 PM
Invalidating trading signals...

This..


Title: Re: Is the manipulator drunk?
Post by: N12 on February 22, 2012, 10:50:53 PM
Then why would he drop down the walls slowly but surely by 1 cent steps each time, while he could just keep the wall a bit higher to let Bids replenish again? Doesn't make sense if he really wants to sell. He's just putting on downward pressure, without actually selling much if anything at all.
I can attest to that. Also seen it withdrawn multiple times as it was bought into a few hundreds, then put up 10c higher or so. It was at 4.6 before, then vanished, and then it was spread into ~3k chunks by a bot to make it organic, and now it moved to 4.5.

Now withdrawn again.


Title: Re: Is the manipulator drunk?
Post by: Koekiemonster on February 22, 2012, 10:53:57 PM
One more (probably far-streched) explanation could be that this person is testing the speculators. He might want to buy more coins, but wants to see the reaction of all of us to these walls to see what his risks are with buying more?!

But probably he's just drunk.. :)


Title: Re: Is the manipulator drunk?
Post by: pirateat40 on February 22, 2012, 10:55:51 PM
I think he's about to take a dump and then go back to his desk.


Title: Re: Is the manipulator drunk?
Post by: teflone on February 22, 2012, 10:58:59 PM
takes time to load up on coins in the sub $5 area on all avenues


Title: Re: Is the manipulator drunk?
Post by: S. Omega on February 22, 2012, 10:59:46 PM
*hick*...I'm not..drunk...*hick*...just...a *hick* bit tipsy...where's me drink? Oh...there is me drink.
























*hick*


Title: Re: Is the manipulator drunk?
Post by: Mushoz on February 22, 2012, 11:07:48 PM
Guys, please check if you happen to have $63k laying under your pillow. Would be epic if you bought into those walls, and profit from at least a 50 cent rise per BTC through a rally. :)


Title: Re: Is the manipulator drunk?
Post by: N12 on February 22, 2012, 11:10:36 PM
Then why would he drop down the walls slowly but surely by 1 cent steps each time, while he could just keep the wall a bit higher to let Bids replenish again? Doesn't make sense if he really wants to sell. He's just putting on downward pressure, without actually selling much if anything at all.
Same thing happening now again.


Title: Re: Is the manipulator drunk?
Post by: teflone on February 22, 2012, 11:27:19 PM
clearly stocking up...


Title: Re: Is the manipulator drunk?
Post by: Mushoz on February 22, 2012, 11:32:08 PM
What happened?

1) Sell off first, and then the ask walls got removed (Which implies a sell from someone else).
2) Ask walls got removed, and then a sell off (Which implies the walls were sold into the bids).

Thanks!


Title: Re: Is the manipulator drunk?
Post by: the joint on February 22, 2012, 11:40:07 PM
I honestly think someone is fucking with the market simply because they can.

There is absolutely no reason to sell when holding and buying with an equal sum of money would have sparked a rally on a number of occasions.  The only thing that's prohibited rallies over the past few weeks besides this guy has been Bitcoinica's little star-friend.

Something ain't right.


Title: Re: Is the manipulator drunk?
Post by: teflone on February 22, 2012, 11:46:04 PM
clearly stocking up...

below 4.55 is nothing

Im all ears ?  what are you saying ? :)


Title: Re: Is the manipulator drunk?
Post by: kokjo on February 22, 2012, 11:49:23 PM
hes on magic mushrooms from silkroad wiiiiiiieeee! funny colors!


Title: Re: Is the manipulator drunk?
Post by: teflone on February 22, 2012, 11:54:32 PM
Im new at the market, I like to hear peoples thoughts on this weird shit thats going on ...

Correction, new to market analysis..


Title: Re: Is the manipulator drunk?
Post by: teflone on February 22, 2012, 11:55:59 PM
Nein!!!!


 :D


Title: Re: Is the manipulator drunk?
Post by: Mushoz on February 22, 2012, 11:56:08 PM
What happened?

1) Sell off first, and then the ask walls got removed (Which implies a sell from someone else).
2) Ask walls got removed, and then a sell off (Which implies the walls were sold into the bids).

Thanks!

Does anyone happen to have the answer to this question? :)


Title: Re: Is the manipulator drunk?
Post by: N12 on February 22, 2012, 11:58:47 PM
What happened?

1) Sell off first, and then the ask walls got removed (Which implies a sell from someone else).
2) Ask walls got removed, and then a sell off (Which implies the walls were sold into the bids).

Thanks!
Just what you said before (what I quoted). He divided his ask wall into 3-4 smaller ones and put them down 1 cent, then the other etc. to cause some panic selling. Didn’t work as well as yesterday, though, so I guess the market is learning. The volume was basically all of his ask walls that consumed the bids or were bought into.


Title: Re: Is the manipulator drunk?
Post by: RyNinDaCleM on February 23, 2012, 12:10:23 AM
What happened?

1) Sell off first, and then the ask walls got removed (Which implies a sell from someone else).
2) Ask walls got removed, and then a sell off (Which implies the walls were sold into the bids).

Thanks!
Just what you said before (what I quoted). He divided his ask wall into 3-4 smaller ones and put them down 1 cent, then the other etc. to cause some panic selling. Didn’t work as well as yesterday, though, so I guess the market is learning. The volume was basically all of his ask walls that consumed the bids or were bought into.

They weren't bought into. He pulled them as a market order was going through. At the time CM was working as it should, and the only +volume ticks were about 4-5 small <10BTC orders.


Title: Re: Is the manipulator drunk?
Post by: N12 on February 23, 2012, 12:12:11 AM
They weren't bought into. He pulled them as a market order was going through. At the time CM was working as it should, and the only +volume ticks were about 4-5 small <10BTC orders.
They were. At least a few thousand most likely, in addition to the selling he did by moving it 1 cent lower into the bids. I guess there might have been a rest he withdrew – I suspect the 4.55 wall might be that.

Manipulator observatory. ;D


Title: Re: Is the manipulator drunk?
Post by: RyNinDaCleM on February 23, 2012, 12:13:37 AM
They weren't bought into. He pulled them as a market order was going through. At the time CM was working as it should, and the only +volume ticks were about 4-5 small <10BTC orders.
They were. At least a few thousand most likely, in addition to the selling he did by moving it 1 cent lower into the bids. I guess there might have been a rest he withdrew – I suspect the 4.55 wall might be that.

Manipulator observatory. ;D

Still! No 15k ask wall, why U no rally?  ;D

Here is a few orders taken from the CM log:

Quote

23:31:10   4.37720   0.0100
23:30:34   4.37720   0.0100
23:30:33   4.37720   0.0100
23:30:08   4.40000   0.0390
23:30:08   4.40000   0.0244
23:30:08   4.40000   0.0472
23:30:07   4.40000   76.9405
23:30:02   4.37003   0.0320
23:29:23   4.37722   0.0827
23:28:58   4.35999   0.2376
23:28:58   4.33881   0.0270
23:28:20   4.39292   0.3390 
23:27:57   4.29412   0.0244 <-Bottom
23:27:57   4.29412   0.0476
23:27:57   4.29679   0.8243
23:27:57   4.29812   0.0229
23:27:57   4.29845   0.1320
23:27:56   4.30000   7.2816
23:27:56   4.30000   4.6512
23:27:56   4.30000   16.2500
23:27:56   4.30000   50.0000
23:27:56   4.30000   0.0076
23:27:56   4.30000   0.4651
23:27:56   4.30000   0.9000
23:27:56   4.30000   20.0000
23:27:56   4.30000   0.1000
23:27:56   4.30000   12.7793

Just sayin'! ;)


Title: Re: Is the manipulator drunk?
Post by: teflone on February 23, 2012, 12:36:18 AM
there we go, finally some leadership :)


Title: Re: Is the manipulator drunk?
Post by: Mushoz on February 23, 2012, 01:25:41 AM
Volume is rising, mostly upticks. Lookin' good!


Title: Re: Is the manipulator drunk?
Post by: N12 on February 24, 2012, 04:27:30 AM
Seeing yesterday’s ghost wall again at 5.1, moved down from 5.2.


Title: Re: Is the manipulator drunk?
Post by: N12 on February 24, 2012, 03:11:32 PM
Seeing yesterday’s ghost wall again at 5.1, moved down from 5.2.
That wall has vanished now as price moved towards it.


Title: Re: Is the manipulator drunk?
Post by: Oldminer on February 24, 2012, 03:20:39 PM
Seeing yesterday’s ghost wall again at 5.1, moved down from 5.2.
That wall has vanished now as price moved towards it.

Walls are meh...