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Title: Nexus - Pure SHA3 + CPU/GPU + nPoS + 15 Active Innovations + More to Come
Post by: KryptoKash on June 19, 2014, 04:41:27 AM
http://i.imgur.com/vpi6Twq.png?2 (http://nexusearth.com)

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KEEP UP TO DATE WITH WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH NEXUS - CHECK OUT OUR MONTHLY NEWSLETTER

 nexusnewsletter.com (https://nexusnewsletter.com)

nex·usˈneksəs' : a connection or series of connections linking two or more things.

Nexus will provide the framework to enhance the freedom, self-sufficiency, and creativity of everyone in the world. A fully decentralized global network will allow people to transfer value, data and services to one another in a truly peer-to-peer fashion. A digital currency called Nexus (based on Satoshi Nakamoto’s Bitcoin) has been created to facilitate this system. However, no system which relied on traditional ground based telecommunications networks is truly decentralized. For this we look to the stars. The Nexus blockchain will be secured in space. Cube satellites in low earth orbit will provide network access worldwide at acceptable latencies. Coupled with hardware devices on the ground, a global decentralized mesh network will be born. People will launch new peer-to-peer services on the network without the approval from a centralized authority. This network must be built on a strong foundation. Over the past two years, many security enhancements and innovations have been developed and proven on the Nexus blockchain. These include 571-bit privacy keys for increased quantum attack resistance, multiple mining/staking channels, dynamic difficulty adjustment, 1024 bit SHA3 based block hashes, unified time, trust keys, and more. Nexus is more than technology.  Nexus is the connection of people, economies, philosophies, ideas, computers and resources that will free mankind. Welcome to Nexus!



 NEXUS PROMOTIONAL VIDEO - BE THE DECENTRALIZATION (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dal30-4nA1I&feature=youtu.be)
http://i.imgur.com/9l0bhrZm.jpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dal30-4nA1I&feature=youtu.be)

FOR MORE VIDEOS EXPLAINING NEXUS CHECK OUT

 nexusearth.com/videos.html (http://nexusearth.com/videos.html)



THE HISTORY OF NEXUS

Nexus has gone through some changes over the past couple of years in terms of the focus of the Project.  Nexus started as a Vision of improving upon some features or lack thereof in the Bitcoin protocol and at the same time ridding the crypto-sphere of scam coins.  Lead Developer Videlicet (Viz) saw an opportunity to study the roots of the Bitcoin core code and understand how Satoshi structured Bitcoin and identified opportunities for improvement.  At the same time, the altcoin market was being flooded with scams and pump and dump schemes where coins with various promises, buzz words, and the allure of quick profits were used to swindle BTC from communities which were then abandoned by the coin cloner developers.  From that Vision was born Coinshield (CSD).
 
The first CSD block was mined on September 23, 2014 and the Project, soon to be named Nexus, was live.  At that point the Project had 2 channels of minting, a Prime channel (CPU) and a Hashing (GPU) channel.  The blocks included a first ever subsidy where a portion from each mined block would be sent to one of 13 developer accounts and another portion would be sent to one of 13 Exchange accounts.  On January 24, 2015, CSD was listed on Bittrex Exchange.  Shortly afterwards Viz drafted a White Paper that outlined how the Network would work to recycle and merge the economies and communities of these pumped and dumped coins.  The goal was to help the folks in those communities, bring them into the CSD Community, and at the same time help clean up the crypto sphere.  The exchange accounts would be used to merge these economies by exchanging the coins for a portion of CSD.

On April 11, 2015 Viz announced the intention to rebrand to Nexus.  Discussion pursued about the ticker symbol and NIRO was chosen to represent Nexus.  On July 24, 2015, Nexus Version 2.0 was released with Nexus Proof of State (nPOS) and the introduction of the Trust Network.  This laid the Foundation for the broader scope of Nexus.  At the beginning of September 2015, Videlicet revealed his identity as Colin Cantrell.  In October 2015 a more formal Team was formed to increase development, build the community, and market Nexus.  A core focus was also to discuss the direction of Nexus.  Throughout those discussions, the decision was made to abandon the recycling and merging that was part of the Coinshield Project.  The technical ability was there to implement the merging, but with the growth and explosion in the number of new cryptos, the process would be in vain and would have little impact.  Therefore, Nexus began to develop into something much, much more and went a different direction.

Nexus still seeks to help carry on Satoshi’s dream of Decentralization and as such continues to work on improving the Bitcoin Protocol by using the Nexus Network as a testing ground for these improvements.  Some of how it works, goals, specifications, and features are described further in this post. For a full understanding of the evolution of Nexus, read through the thread.



HOW IT WORKS

Decentralized Decentralization
Nexus is a decentralized, worldwide network distributed through three channels of security to allow for fast, secure, and decentralized transactions.

Consensus
Consensus in Nexus is not limited to the vote being given to block producers or even interest based nodes. Nexus has layers of the network that check and balance each other to prevent one layer from becoming too powerful and inhibiting the security of the network. Nexus channels include Prime Channel (CPU Mining), Hashing Channel (GPU Mining), and Nexus Proof of Stake (nPOS).

Reputation
The reputation of Nodes (computers in the Peer-to-Peer Network) and corresponding Trust Keys (addresses that receive interest payments) is established by their honest contributions of Time, Weight, and Trust on the network. These Trust Keys become very valuable as it takes a great deal of effort to build Trust. Currently the interest rate is a variable rate that increases from 0.5% to 3% within one year the longer you build Trust on the Network.

Security
Nexus has checks and balances in consensus so that the control of the network is more distributed providing greater security and network stability. Coupled with Quantum Computer resistant Private Keys with 571 bit encryption (much more secure than Bitcoin), Trust Keys and reputation; Nexus serves the WORLD as the most secure cryptocurrency to date.

Scalability
Currently in development is a new data structure that allows the scaling of a blockchain network to better compete with and eventually replace current financial transaction systems. This new data architecture will allow the Nexus Network to grow and adapt to process increasing numbers of transactions as capacity is required by the network. Currently the Nexus network can process 5,000 transactions per second.

Spaced-Based Blockchain
Nexus is actively building relationships within the aerospace industry to allow for the hardware infrastructure to be compatible with its transaction system. Nexus is building the foundation to broadcast the blockchain and Nexus Network from space. Under existing hardware infrastructure, cryptocurrency is technically under the mercy of telecommunication and government technology industries. Coupled with both the development of software and hardware, Nexus seeks to free men from centralized financial institutions.



SPECIFICATIONS

Algorithm
SHA3 [Skein and Keccak]

Minting Channels
Prime (CPU), Hashing (GPU), and Nexus Proof of Stake (nPOS)

Initial Supply
78 Million over a 10 year distribution period for the Prime and Hashing Channels

Current Supply
http://nexusoft.io/platform/statistics/supply.php or http://nxsorbitalscan.com/

Maximum Annual Inflation
nPOS: Up to 3% annually; 2% after initial distribution is complete
Prime and Hashing Minting Channels: 1% annually after initial distribution is complete

Block Time
300 seconds for Hashing minting channel and 300 seconds for Prime minting Channel for an average of 150 seconds
60 seconds for nPOS

Block Reward
Prime and Hashing Minting Channels: The effective reward is established by the reserve balances. These reserves have a decayed amount deposited every time interval of one minute. If the balance is below a given threshold, the reward value will be based on a time’s value of a decayed amount. This means that the reward will be given based on how long it was taken to create the block. This prevents the reserves from being depleted as large amounts of computing power jump on and off the mining network.

nPOS Minting Channel: The effective reward is an annual interest rate that ranges between 0.5 and 3.0% annually.

Minting Difficulty
The miner’s difficulty is calculated by a proportion generated from the time it took to create the block, and the target time. The target time is calculated by the NXS Reserves working to deflate the difficulty if the reserves go over a threshold. This is designed to maintain transaction processing in the loss of computing power to given channel, by aiding in the reduction of the difficulty to a more suited level.




NEXUS TEAM

Colin (Videlicet), Founder / Funding / Software Engineer, colin@nexusearth.com
Bryan (bryangmyrek), Nexus Core Developer / Software Engineer
Preston (pdogg147), Community Manager / Public Relations, preston@nexusearth.com
Keith (nightandday), Ninja Marketing / GUI Developer / Web Developer / Media Production
Houssam (houssam), Web Development / Mining Pool Operator
Jessica (anotherseoninja), Marketing Specialist, jessica@nexusearth.com
Chris (murdockie), Graphic Design / Web Development

Nexus Development Team Email Address: team@nexusearth.com
Nexus Development Team NXS Address: 2Qpe2rDTMUKBq4evL9im61SBj3dAJ4H3u1SiVjYbSdwYPJy5NSP
Nexus Development Team BTC Address: 1My2GsdknNxs2x8BLPfzAQUQ1oGVouBi6Y




WALLET DOWNLOADS

For the Latest Releases Be Sure to Check Out https://github.com/Nexusoft/Nexus/releases OR nexusearth.com (http://nexusearth.com) Under Downloads

NEXUS VERSION 2.0.5 (Oracle Database - Currently Best for Staking)

http://i.imgur.com/1FnKhoJt.png?1 (https://github.com/Nexusoft/Nexus/releases/download/0.2.0.5/Nexus-0.2.0.5.zip)
http://i.imgur.com/7mym1fO.png (https://github.com/Nexusoft/Nexus/archive/0.2.0.5.tar.gz)
LINUX BUILD INFO (https://github.com/Nexusoft/Nexus/blob/master/doc/build-linux.MD)

http://i.imgur.com/KpWuQVgt.png (https://github.com/Nexusoft/Nexus/releases/download/0.2.0.5/Nexus-Qt.dmg)

NEXUS VERSION 2.2.2 (Nexus Custom Lower Level Database - Currently Best for Mining)

http://i.imgur.com/1FnKhoJt.png?1 (https://github.com/Nexusoft/Nexus/releases/download/0.2.2.2/Nexus-Windows-0.2.2.2.zip)
http://i.imgur.com/7mym1fO.png (https://github.com/Nexusoft/Nexus/releases/download/0.2.2.2/Nexus-Qt-Linux-0_2_2_2.tar.gz)
LINUX BUILD INFO (https://github.com/Nexusoft/Nexus/blob/master/doc/build-linux.MD)

http://i.imgur.com/KpWuQVgt.png (https://github.com/Nexusoft/Nexus/releases/download/0.2.2.2/Nexus-Qt.dmg)

 NEXUS WALLET DOWNLOAD AND INSTALL INSTRUCTIONAL VIDEO (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qw2Cfs5E008)
http://i.imgur.com/Roirz8km.png (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qw2Cfs5E008)

RECENT DATABASE FILES

Oracle Database (http://nexusearth.com/bootstrap/Oracle-Database/recent.rar)

Lower Level Database (LLD) (http://nexusearth.com/bootstrap/LLD-Database/recent.rar)

BLOCK EXPLORER (http://nexusoft.io/platform/)



NEXUS MINING

FOR SOME TUTORIAL VIDEOS EXPLAINING NEXUS CPU AND GPU MINING SETUP CHECK OUT

 nexusearth.com/tutorials.html (http://nexusearth.com/tutorials.html)

Prime Channel (CPU)
[Miners Created by Videlicet, Optimized by Supercomputing]
Prime Solo Miners:
Source Code [Github] (https://github.com/Nexusoft/PrimeSoloMiner)
Windows Binary x86 (http://nexusoft.io/platform/binaries/miners/solominer.zip)
Windows Binary x64 (http://nexusoft.io/platform/binaries/miners/solominer-x64.zip)

Nexus Pool: nxspool.com:9549 http://nxspool.com/

Nexus Mining Pool: nexusminingpool.com:9549 http://nexusminingpool.com/

NXS Mining Pool: nxsminingpool.com:9549 http://nxsminingpool.com/

NXS CPU Pool: nxscpupool.com:9549 http://nxscpupool.com/

NexusEarth.Co.Uk Mining Pool: cpu.nexusearth.co.uk:9549 http://cpu.nexusearth.co.uk/

Prime Pool Miners:
Source Code [Github] (https://github.com/Nexusoft/PrimePoolMiner)
Windows Binary x86 (http://nexusoft.io/platform/binaries/miners/poolminer.zip)
Windows Binary x64 (http://nexusearth.com/miners/nexus_cpuminer.rar)

Hashing (GPU) SK-1024 Channel

[Miners Created by Wolf, Windows Miner Modified by Paulscreen]

Windows 64 bit AMD Solo Miner (http://nexusminingpool.com/downloads/wolf0miner64.zip)
Linux AMD Solo Miner Source Code (https://github.com/wolf9466/Wolf-Niro-Miner)

[Miners Created by Bitslapper, Optimized by djm34 and Mumus]
SK-Miner [NVIDIA] Windows (http://nexusearth.com/miners/SKMiner-v.0.1.3_optimized_by_Mumus.rar)
SK-Miner [NVIDIA] Source (http://nexusoft.io/platform/binaries/miners/skminer_nvidia.rar)
SK-Miner [Github] (http://github.com/BitSlapper/SKMiner)



SOURCE CODE

http://i.imgur.com/J3vRWxGt.jpg (https://github.com/Nexusoft/Nexus)



MARKETS

http://i.imgur.com/JjwHxp4m.jpg (https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-NXS)

http://i.imgur.com/d2XMFlf.png?1 (https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/Exchange/?market=NXS_BTC)

NEXUS ON COIN MARKET CAP (http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/nexus/)



NEXUS WIKI

http://i.imgur.com/hpKsZj3t.jpg (https://github.com/Nexusoft/Nexus/wiki)

Find out more details of the Nexus protocol including Technological Advancements



SOCIAL MEDIA

www.nexusearth.com (http://www.nexusearth.com)

NEXUS FORUM (https://nxsforum.com/)

http://i.imgur.com/hJAxjL1m.png (https://www.facebook.com/groups/1562975960652250)

http://i.imgur.com/968OKlAm.jpg?2 (https://twitter.com/NxsEarth)

SLACK AUTO-INVITE LINK (http://nexusearth.com:3000/)

REDDIT r/nexusearth (https://www.reddit.com/r/nexusearth)

IRC #nexusearth (http://webchat.freenode.net/?nick=nexususer.&channels=%23nexusearth&uio=OT10cnVlJjExPTEzMyYxMj10cnVl37)

YOU, ME, AND BTC PODCAST (http://youmeandbtc.com/bitcoin-podcast/nexus-creator-colin-cantrell-ymb-podcast-e102/)



HOW NEXUS IMPROVES UPON THE BITCOIN PROTOCOL

http://i.imgur.com/7Y4uG6n.jpg?1 (http://www.nexusearth.com)



CURRENT FEATURES

Mining Channels: Each channel reinforces each other to prevent 51% attacks on one channel forcing attacker across multiple channels.

Hashing: SK-1024, SK-576, SK-512, and SK-256 used in all hashing. Pure SHA3 using Skein and Keccak.

SK-1024: Using Skein-1024 and Keccak-1600 for GPU PoW to produce a 1024 bit output hash used for the block hash providing the highest security.

Prime: Searching for Dense Prime Clusters as CPU PoW, finding these clusters of numbers that are ~308 digits to verify prime density in large numbers.

Keys: 571 Bit Private Keys compared to 256 bit in other currencies. Using NID_sect571r1 as the algorithm.

Difficulty: Calculated with time overlaps and true % over bounds, using weighted block average over past 5 blocks.

LLP: Lower Level Protocol as a template protocol to allow any protocol to be created with ease without need for repeated network programming.

Core LLP: Protocol responsible for time keeping as an advancement to NTP, keeping clocks on the network synchronized within a few seconds of one another. Maximum clock drift for Nexus is 10 seconds.

Mining LLP: Dedicated Mining Protocol outside of JSON-RPC Server to allow the greatest performance for mining. Protocol can handle 5k + connections allowing solo mining of any magnitude.

No Reward Halving: Rewards are calculated along an exponential decay curve to slowly reduce the value of each block rather than shock both miners and the market with block reward halving which acts as a rudimentary decay model.

Released Reserves: Decayed Amounts are deposited into the Reserves for each channel, preventing a miner from being able to mint more than the projected amount while difficulty is compensating to their amount of computing power.

Fractional Rewards: When reserves are below given thresholds, the mining reward is then based off of the time it took to create a block preventing a miner from ever being able to deplete the reserves.

Decentralized Checkpoints: All blocks must root from the most recent checkpoint which is declared by fitting into a timespan. This allows checkpoints to be automatically created every hour, without the need for any master node or checkpoint broadcast.

Trust Keys: Interest rate is increased the more a node services the main chain giving incentive to active stakers. This also increases the cost of an attack for in order to attack with a trust key it requires time to get it to the same threshold.

Nexus Proof of Stake: Proof of Stake system based on the Peercoin protocol heavily recoded from the ground up utilizing energy efficiency threshold, trust keys, and logarithmic weights to create the fairest and most stable Proof of Stake system to date.

Developer Commission: Built into the protocol levels, gives a small decayed amount to developer addresses every block [~1 NXS] over 10 years amounting to a total of ~2.5% after 10 years, and starting at ~1.5% as a way to bring the benefits of pre-mines, without the risk to investors. This means developer account has no control over the currency as it will never be of a high enough %, but it allows funds to be distributed to development removing need for corruptible foundations such as the Bitcoin Foundation which was spawned to cover developmental costs.



PLANNED FUTURE FEATURES

Reversible Transactions: Transaction can be reversed if below expiration time by sending transaction void to the network.

Two-Way Signatures: Receiver of transaction will be required to sign to prove ownership of txout before it will be processed. This will prevent burning coins by accident.

Trust Network: Using Trust Keys and more sophistication in Checkpoints will create a Trust Network in which nodes will be given the opportunity to vote on checkpoints and blocks to agree on set blockchain. This will prevent a rogue node from trying to manipulate the network.

Sync-less Wallets: Using the Trust Network as a backbone and the LLP for the protocol, will allow wallets to remain sync-less by processing transactions in the Trust Network.

HTML5 Wallet: Probably coming sooner rather then later, essentially building up a clean simple HTML5 wallet using qt web server. Will have all the great visuals that HTML5/CSS3 provides. Most likely coming before transaction features to have a cleaner GUI to integrate more functionality into.

Double Spend Protection: Using input locking and checking on reorganizations, can prevent a transaction from ever being able to be overwritten by a longer blockchain after a checkpoint eliminating any threat of 51% attacks.

LLL Integration: Once the Library including Static and Dynamic Databases is finished, next will be integrating LLP, LLD, and LLS with possible LLE for encrypted communications and high efficiencies in protocol responses and data storage.



UPDATES TO BE INCLUDED IN FUTURE RELEASES

Updates Planned for the Full 0.3.0 Release include:

1.   LLD database integration.
2.   Trust Key Depreciation Update
3.   Many new RPC commands for increased utility and Block Explorer performance.
4.   LLP Updates.
5.   Reworking of the nPOS system for increased difficulty.



Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: Videlicet on June 19, 2014, 04:41:49 AM
http://nexusniro.com/img/downloads.jpg (http://nexusniro.com/platform/Download)

Technical Specifications and Download links coming soon. For Now Click The Image Up There ^^ to go to downloads.


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: sammy007 on June 19, 2014, 04:43:27 AM
Guys, why you are so brand new if you are going to resurrect altcoin marketplace from this pandemonium?

Update: Oh, just noticed X11, you guys creating coins for FPGA, not for GPU. Use Scrypt-N.


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: Videlicet on June 19, 2014, 04:51:10 AM
Guys, why you are so brand new if you are going to resurrect altcoin marketplace from this pandemonium?

Update: Oh, just noticed X11, you guys creating coins for FPGA, not for GPU. Use Scrypt-N.

This is precisely why we pre-announced so early, to gather input from the community. Thank you.

Edit: To your prior question, I have been programming for the better part of 10 years, and been heavily involved in Crypto Currencies since April, 2013.


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: CryptoLTD on June 19, 2014, 04:59:32 AM
Im not a crypto guru.. in laymens terms, whats the planned length of POW? The code is all greek to me.


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: AlfaONE on June 19, 2014, 05:02:40 AM
what is the point of the Coin    ???


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: Videlicet on June 19, 2014, 05:06:04 AM
Im not a crypto guru.. in laymens terms, whats the planned length of POW? The code is all greek to me.

It follows an exponential decay model, which follows a curve to ease shock to market. It will be minable forever, with minimal inflation of 1-3% after initial distribution which will decay to a minimum in around 10 years. Coinshield was designed to have longevity, and be a stable container for wealth for many years to come.


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: kozmos on June 19, 2014, 05:07:35 AM
Interesting..

Watching this coin


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: LuckyBtc on June 19, 2014, 05:09:31 AM
Why don't you guys use X13 algo?


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: Videlicet on June 19, 2014, 05:12:28 AM
Why don't you guys use X13 algo?

This is precisely why we pre-announced so early, to gather input from the community. Thank you.

EDIT: Why do you think we should go with X13?


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: IMJim on June 19, 2014, 05:18:38 AM
Not sure I understand what is described fully, but definitely sounds interesting......will watch.


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: esprit577 on June 19, 2014, 05:19:44 AM
New coin new Channels.


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: KryptoKash on June 19, 2014, 05:20:02 AM
Not sure I understand what is described fully, but definitely sounds interesting......will watch.
Let me edit the post, and try to make it a bit clearer. Sorry about that.


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: sammy007 on June 19, 2014, 05:22:12 AM
Why don't you guys use X13 algo?

This is precisely why we pre-announced so early, to gather input from the community. Thank you.

EDIT: Why do you think we should go with X13?

You shouldn't because X13 like every "new" X(N) are designed to be FPGA-friendly. really, stop all this XN rush. Haven't you see how difficulty rising to the moon in a few minutes after launch? Don't feed China.


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: Videlicet on June 19, 2014, 05:23:59 AM
Why don't you guys use X13 algo?

This is precisely why we pre-announced so early, to gather input from the community. Thank you.

EDIT: Why do you think we should go with X13?

You shouldn't because X13 like every "new" X(N) are designed to be FPGA-friendly. really, stop all this XN rush. Haven't you see how difficulty rising to the moon in a few minutes after launch? Don't feed China.

This is very good information, Thank You. Why do you suppose Scrypt-N is the best choice for GPU miners?


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: mumus on June 19, 2014, 05:25:24 AM
Can we know more about the Prime number POW. Is it using similar algorithms like  primecoin or riecoin or is it something new? Primecoin is already GPU so if you want to stay CPU then I guess going in the direction similar to riecoin would be adviced, searching for huge primes which is still "hard" to implement on GPU.
If you are already implementing something new then I would also suggest implementing a new PoW also for GPU like X12 or X14 by adding an additional algo which can be easily implemented on GPU.


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: mumus on June 19, 2014, 05:28:18 AM
Why don't you guys use X13 algo?

This is precisely why we pre-announced so early, to gather input from the community. Thank you.

EDIT: Why do you think we should go with X13?

You shouldn't because X13 like every "new" X(N) are designed to be FPGA-friendly. really, stop all this XN rush. Haven't you see how difficulty rising to the moon in a few minutes after launch? Don't feed China.

I think those who can implement a new X(N) protocol on FPGA deserves to earn more, indifferently from which nation they are coming from.


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: KryptoKash on June 19, 2014, 05:28:38 AM
Not sure I understand what is described fully, but definitely sounds interesting......will watch.
I added this in the opening post. I hope it helps clear things up:
How It All Works:
Coinshield lets users vote in any shitcoin to our system. When a shitcoin is added to our site we open a "channel" for it. A channel will simply let you deposit the shitcoin to the system and in exchange give you CSD. If you accept the trade the system will then take your shitcoin and dump it on active buy orders. The BTC that is generated from this process will then be used to build buy walls for CSD. Here is a better breakdown on how it all works.
Please CLICK HERE (http://coinshieldtalk.org/forum/coin/coinshield-discussion/68-the-coin-shield-system) for a quick overview on the trade in process flow.


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: Videlicet on June 19, 2014, 05:31:16 AM
Can we know more about the Prime number POW. Is it using similar algorithms like  primecoin or riecoin or is it something new? Primecoin is already GPU so if you want to stay CPU then I guess going in the direction similar to riecoin would be adviced, searching for huge primes which is still "hard" to implement on GPU.
If you are already implementing something new then I would also suggest implementing a new PoW also for GPU like X12 or X14 by adding an additional algo which can be easily implemented on GPU.

The CPU channel is using Riecoin pow. The GPU is actually now being discussed to be changed to Scrypt-N, what do you think the POW should be for the CPU and GPU Channels?

EDIT: Also considering reducing X11 to X7 or X5 to lower the margin between CPU and GPU miners, and make it more GPU friendly. But as sammy007 pointed out, it does make it FPGA friendly. I do not have any test data at the moment as to whether going towards X7 or X5 would have any effect on FPGA. Anyone?


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: mumus on June 19, 2014, 05:51:55 AM
Can we know more about the Prime number POW. Is it using similar algorithms like  primecoin or riecoin or is it something new? Primecoin is already GPU so if you want to stay CPU then I guess going in the direction similar to riecoin would be adviced, searching for huge primes which is still "hard" to implement on GPU.
If you are already implementing something new then I would also suggest implementing a new PoW also for GPU like X12 or X14 by adding an additional algo which can be easily implemented on GPU.

The CPU channel is using riecoin pow. The GPU is actually now being discussed to be changed to Scrypt-N, what do you think the POW should be for the CPU and GPU Channels?

I have a good feeling about this coin and I like the idea.
In my opinion some new algorithms both for CPU and GPU can create some hype and also can bring attention of qualified developers in these fields, which is good.
As I wrote before, if you can and have time I would suggest a new X12 or X14 PoW just simply adding a new algo to the existing X11 or X13. Otherwise my suggestion is X13.
Regarding to the CPU PoW I like Riecoin so it's a good choice, but again if you can bring something new in this territory then would be nice. I guess 10 days is not enough time for such changes.


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: mumus on June 19, 2014, 06:00:39 AM
EDIT: Also considering reducing X11 to X7 or X5 to lower the margin between CPU and GPU miners, and make it more GPU friendly. But as sammy007 pointed out, it does make it FPGA friendly. I do not have any test data at the moment as to whether going towards X7 or X5 would have any effect on FPGA. Anyone?

X7 or X5 is also a good idea. I have nothing against FPGA though I never had chance to work with one. I think it's a natural evolution that almost any algorithms that were implemented on GPU and worth mining can and will be also implemented on FPGA.


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: Videlicet on June 19, 2014, 06:01:48 AM
Can we know more about the Prime number POW. Is it using similar algorithms like  primecoin or riecoin or is it something new? Primecoin is already GPU so if you want to stay CPU then I guess going in the direction similar to riecoin would be adviced, searching for huge primes which is still "hard" to implement on GPU.
If you are already implementing something new then I would also suggest implementing a new PoW also for GPU like X12 or X14 by adding an additional algo which can be easily implemented on GPU.

The CPU channel is using riecoin pow. The GPU is actually now being discussed to be changed to Scrypt-N, what do you think the POW should be for the CPU and GPU Channels?

I have a good feeling about this coin and I like the idea.
In my opinion some new algorithms both for CPU and GPU can create some hype and also can bring attention of qualified developers in these fields, which is good.
As I wrote before, if you can and have time I would suggest a new X12 or X14 PoW just simply adding a new algo to the existing X11 or X13. Otherwise my suggestion is X13.
Regarding to the CPU PoW I like Riecoin so it's a good choice, but again if you can bring something new in this territory then would be nice. I guess 10 days is not enough time for such changes.

Yes you are correct, 10 days is not enough time to implement a new POW for CPU's, though I have many ideas time is the one limited resource. Our aim with this coin is not so much on getting "hype" as much as being a stance at quality, and giving the community a voice. These qualities alone should bring the appropriate attention, not hype, because hype always dies off and is just a balloon full of air.

So why do you suggest adding a few algos to go to X14 rather than subtracting and or selecting a set of X5 or X7? What are the advantages/disadvantages in your opinion?


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: gaodaochu on June 19, 2014, 06:02:11 AM
I want to know, If i hold shitcoin, and want to sell it, why do not i sell in market to get btc? Why i should choose Coinshield channel system? what is advantage ?


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: Videlicet on June 19, 2014, 06:09:23 AM
I want to know, If i hold shitcoin, and want to sell it, why do not i sell in market to get btc? Why i should choose Coinshield channel system? what is advantage ?

A] If you watch the timer for channel opening, the trade value of CSD/SHIT will be higher than going trade value at launch, so early entry means you are freed of your SHIT with PROFIT

B] If you hold CSD instead of SHIT after using channel, its value will increase from the CSD buy orders going in from the SHIT being dumped, and if you time it correctly, you can then have MORE PROFIT as CSD price will increase upon SHIT DUMP

C] You no longer have to convince yourself that what you hold has VALUE, because you will help clear away the SHIT from the economies, and gain a good investment in return.


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: gaodaochu on June 19, 2014, 06:17:11 AM
I want to know, If i hold shitcoin, and want to sell it, why do not i sell in market to get btc? Why i should choose Coinshield channel system? what is advantage ?

A] If you watch the timer for channel opening, the trade value of CSD/SHIT will be higher than going trade value at launch, so early entry means you are freed of your SHIT with PROFIT

B] If you hold CSD instead of SHIT after using channel, its value will increase from the CSD buy orders going in from the SHIT being dumped, and if you time it correctly, you can then have MORE PROFIT as CSD price will increase upon SHIT DUMP

C] You no longer have to convince yourself that what you hold has VALUE, because you will help clear away the SHIT from the economies, and gain a good investment in return.

good idea, It looks like a multipool, but not use pow. ha, I think forbidden fake vote and avoid plagiarizing by other coin is very important


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: TheFridge on June 19, 2014, 06:21:27 AM
For this to be anywhere remotely successful you need a lot of people to get on board. Your wanting 10btc buy walls.... that's a lot of exchanging going on.
Also, why should we trust you? Who's to say your not going to skim off the top before creating these buy walls?
Your trying to hold the decency flag that bit coin has but the sole reason bitcoin was invented is so you don't have to trust ANYONE with your money. Yet you want us to trust you. A Newb account. What's your real bitcointalk username? Your 'heavily' involved so what's your usual handle? Why create a new account?
And don't give me that 'I've been a developer for 10 years bull' on bitcointalk everyone should assume guilty before innocent.
Prove me wrong.


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: baigreen on June 19, 2014, 06:21:47 AM
marked~~


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: Videlicet on June 19, 2014, 06:32:36 AM
For this to be anywhere remotely successful you need a lot of people to get on board. Your wanting 10btc buy walls.... that's a lot of exchanging going on.
Also, why should we trust you? Who's to say your not going to skim off the top before creating these buy walls?
Your trying to hold the decency flag that bit coin has but the sole reason bitcoin was invented is so you don't have to trust ANYONE with your money. Yet you want us to trust you. A Newb account. What's your real bitcointalk username? Your 'heavily' involved so what's your usual handle? Why create a new account?
And don't give me that 'I've been a developer for 10 years bull' on bitcointalk everyone should assume guilty before innocent.
Prove me wrong.

I am generally an observer to the community, and this is my first user account here because this is the first time I have actually needed one. I'm glad you brought this to everybody's attention, as I foresaw this as being an issue. By the nature of how this system will work, yes there will need to be a level of trust involved. This trust is beginning to be established at this point in time, now that you raised the question of it. The way we have decided to deal with this issue is ABSOLUTE TRANSPARENCY. When the first channel opens, there will be an archive page started on main website of every single executed trade of SHIT DUMP, and every single executed BTC buy order. This will of course be in real time on the left sidebar of the channels for reference. The second point is I will design the channels to have one deposit address for the channel. This means that you will be able to see every single SHIT that is transfered to the channel, every single SHIT that is transfered to the exchange, and every single SHIT sell order. These numbers can be verified with the automation supplied on archives page, or by your own discretion if independent verification is chosen as the suited means for your veracity.

The trust can only be established over time, with transparency being the best means of expressing it.

Think Clearly, not Deeply ~ Videlicet


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: TheFridge on June 19, 2014, 06:39:51 AM
For this to be anywhere remotely successful you need a lot of people to get on board. Your wanting 10btc buy walls.... that's a lot of exchanging going on.
Also, why should we trust you? Who's to say your not going to skim off the top before creating these buy walls?
Your trying to hold the decency flag that bit coin has but the sole reason bitcoin was invented is so you don't have to trust ANYONE with your money. Yet you want us to trust you. A Newb account. What's your real bitcointalk username? Your 'heavily' involved so what's your usual handle? Why create a new account?
And don't give me that 'I've been a developer for 10 years bull' on bitcointalk everyone should assume guilty before innocent.
Prove me wrong.

I am generally an observer to the community, and this is my first user account here because this is the first time I have actually needed one. I'm glad you brought this to everybody's attention, as I foresaw this as being an issue. By the nature of how this system will work, yes there will need to be a level of trust involved. This trust is beginning to be established at this point in time, now that you raised the question of it. The way we have decided to deal with this issue is ABSOLUTE TRANSPARENCY. When the first channel opens, there will be an archive page started on main website of every single executed trade of SHIT DUMP, and every single executed BTC buy order. This will of course be in real time on the left sidebar of the channels for reference. The second point is I will design the channels to have one deposit address for the channel. This means that you will be able to see every single SHIT that is transfered to the channel, every single SHIT that is transfered to the exchange, and every single SHIT sell order. These numbers can be verified with the automation supplied on archives page, or by your own discretion if independent verification is chosen as the suited means for your veracity.

The trust can only be established over time, with transparency being the best means of expressing it.

Think Clearly, not Deeply ~ Videlicet

A step in the right direction for sure. I don't believe for a second you have never made an account before though.
Red flag number 1.


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: Videlicet on June 19, 2014, 06:42:18 AM
For this to be anywhere remotely successful you need a lot of people to get on board. Your wanting 10btc buy walls.... that's a lot of exchanging going on.
Also, why should we trust you? Who's to say your not going to skim off the top before creating these buy walls?
Your trying to hold the decency flag that bit coin has but the sole reason bitcoin was invented is so you don't have to trust ANYONE with your money. Yet you want us to trust you. A Newb account. What's your real bitcointalk username? Your 'heavily' involved so what's your usual handle? Why create a new account?
And don't give me that 'I've been a developer for 10 years bull' on bitcointalk everyone should assume guilty before innocent.
Prove me wrong.

I am generally an observer to the community, and this is my first user account here because this is the first time I have actually needed one. I'm glad you brought this to everybody's attention, as I foresaw this as being an issue. By the nature of how this system will work, yes there will need to be a level of trust involved. This trust is beginning to be established at this point in time, now that you raised the question of it. The way we have decided to deal with this issue is ABSOLUTE TRANSPARENCY. When the first channel opens, there will be an archive page started on main website of every single executed trade of SHIT DUMP, and every single executed BTC buy order. This will of course be in real time on the left sidebar of the channels for reference. The second point is I will design the channels to have one deposit address for the channel. This means that you will be able to see every single SHIT that is transfered to the channel, every single SHIT that is transfered to the exchange, and every single SHIT sell order. These numbers can be verified with the automation supplied on archives page, or by your own discretion if independent verification is chosen as the suited means for your veracity.

The trust can only be established over time, with transparency being the best means of expressing it.

Think Clearly, not Deeply ~ Videlicet

A step in the right direction for sure. I don't believe for a second you have never made an account before though.
Red flag number 1.

It is thinking like this - always questioning - that allows one to expand in their consciousness. +1


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: IMJim on June 19, 2014, 06:57:46 AM
Well I can't say as you have my trust just yet as like what was said above, most are guilty until proven innocent in these parts.......and for good reason I suppose.  I will say however that I appreciate all your responses to this point including those that were not in response to my post.  I am also very intrigued by this concept, thanks for better clarification......it helped and now I might have to watch with both eyes.

I hope the intentions are true and the commitment to the cause stays!!  Sounds like something the crypto community could actually benefit from....something that seems a rarity to find around here at times.


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: Videlicet on June 19, 2014, 07:01:07 AM
+1 as it was once said, "come together". =)


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: BTMan on June 19, 2014, 07:14:30 AM
good coin ??


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: Seldar on June 19, 2014, 07:55:57 AM
A new shitcoin created to destroy shitcoins, that's priceless :)

There are several problems with this new coin : trust, centralization and lifespan.
what will happen when devs decide to leave project?


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: Videlicet on June 19, 2014, 09:21:46 AM
A new shitcoin created to destroy shitcoins, that's priceless :)

There are several problems with this new coin : trust, centralization and lifespan.
what will happen when devs decide to leave project?

You know 3 years ago, people said the same about Bitcoin :P
Time will tell my friend, as it did for Bitcoin.

~Videlicet


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: platorin on June 19, 2014, 10:44:15 AM
Is there any IPO here? What new does your project offer to us and why would anyone mine the coins?


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: billotronic on June 19, 2014, 03:16:49 PM
I love the use of 'shitcoin' in the op and this is an interesting idea.

As for GPU algos, why not skein or groestl?


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: Videlicet on June 19, 2014, 05:09:47 PM
Is there any IPO here? What new does your project offer to us and why would anyone mine the coins?

Why would anyone mine a coin? To get a piece of the action. What is offered to the community is a voice, and a movement in which everyone can direct their efforts in a coordinated manner to clean up the marketplace. I am the one doing all the programming, so any more questions I'll be happy to answer. The biggest thing Coinshield has that every other coin doesn't, is a purpose. Now it has a function in the community, just like anything of innovation should have. Even some coins that do have programmed innovation generally only stop there. The new innovations are going to come in the form of what is necessary for the growth and fruition of Bitcoin, and others Alike.

EDIT: No IPO, really puts on a bad name =/ this is only because it has been a targeted vector for scams, otherwise is a beautiful part of the free market [successfully implemented in a system with a pinch of regulation].

I love the use of 'shitcoin' in the op and this is an interesting idea.

As for GPU algos, why not skein or groestl?

What are advantages / comparisons between skein or groestl and any other GPU algorithm?

[Explain More] So we can all know ;)

~Videlicet


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: emmnazady on June 19, 2014, 05:20:48 PM
Interesting...Great Coin.I am in and wating for this coin.


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: billotronic on June 19, 2014, 05:32:03 PM
Is there any IPO here? What new does your project offer to us and why would anyone mine the coins?

Why would anyone mine a coin? To get a piece of the action. What is offered to the community is a voice, and a movement in which everyone can direct their efforts in a coordinated manner to clean up the marketplace. I am the one doing all the programming, so any more questions I'll be happy to answer. The biggest thing Coinshield has that every other coin doesn't, is a purpose. Now it has a function in the community, just like anything of innovation should have. Even some coins that do have programmed innovation generally only stop there. The new innovations are going to come in the form of what is necessary for the growth and fruition of Bitcoin, and others Alike.

EDIT: No IPO, really puts on a bad name =/ this is only because it has been a targeted vector for scams, otherwise is a beautiful part of the free market [successfully implemented in a system with a pinch of regulation].

I love the use of 'shitcoin' in the op and this is an interesting idea.

As for GPU algos, why not skein or groestl?

What are advantages / comparisons between skein or groestl and any other GPU algorithm?

[Explain More] So we can all know ;)

~Videlicet

I am looking for reputable sources for my claims but skein has a much higher hashrate with less energy than scrypt and grostl is less higher hash but much more energy efficient. If I can't find solid proof in these fourms today then I will do a quick test tonight to double check. Memory serves using the python skein miner my 270x never broke 50C though... I mean it was a mind blowing difference on heat generated.


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: Videlicet on June 19, 2014, 05:38:34 PM
Is there any IPO here? What new does your project offer to us and why would anyone mine the coins?

Why would anyone mine a coin? To get a piece of the action. What is offered to the community is a voice, and a movement in which everyone can direct their efforts in a coordinated manner to clean up the marketplace. I am the one doing all the programming, so any more questions I'll be happy to answer. The biggest thing Coinshield has that every other coin doesn't, is a purpose. Now it has a function in the community, just like anything of innovation should have. Even some coins that do have programmed innovation generally only stop there. The new innovations are going to come in the form of what is necessary for the growth and fruition of Bitcoin, and others Alike.

EDIT: No IPO, really puts on a bad name =/ this is only because it has been a targeted vector for scams, otherwise is a beautiful part of the free market [successfully implemented in a system with a pinch of regulation].

I love the use of 'shitcoin' in the op and this is an interesting idea.

As for GPU algos, why not skein or groestl?

What are advantages / comparisons between skein or groestl and any other GPU algorithm?

[Explain More] So we can all know ;)

~Videlicet

I am looking for reputable sources for my claims but skein has a much higher hashrate with less energy than scrypt and grostl is less higher hash but much more energy efficient. If I can't find solid proof in these fourms today then I will do a quick test tonight to double check. Memory serves using the python skein miner my 270x never broke 50C though... I mean it was a mind blowing difference on heat generated.

Very good information my friend, and much appreciated. Now it seems both of these hashing functions are very energy efficient, and I am starting to think about combining these two algorithms, and maybe one more of the same efficiency, to develop an energy efficient, ASIC/FPGA resistant GPU algorithm. Any other hashing functions that you know of that have similar effects of skein and groestl?

~Videlicet


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: gatra on June 19, 2014, 06:05:18 PM
I want to know, If i hold shitcoin, and want to sell it, why do not i sell in market to get btc? Why i should choose Coinshield channel system? what is advantage ?

A] If you watch the timer for channel opening, the trade value of CSD/SHIT will be higher than going trade value at launch, so early entry means you are freed of your SHIT with PROFIT

B] If you hold CSD instead of SHIT after using channel, its value will increase from the CSD buy orders going in from the SHIT being dumped, and if you time it correctly, you can then have MORE PROFIT as CSD price will increase upon SHIT DUMP

C] You no longer have to convince yourself that what you hold has VALUE, because you will help clear away the SHIT from the economies, and gain a good investment in return.

mmm.... I still don't understand [A].... why would the value be higher? who would give me more than market value for my shit and why? If it's true that I could be freed of my shit with profit, then maybe I should buy shit! it doesn't make much sense. If you are giving away CSD for shit, then wouldn't the value of CSD be as low as shit?

Be careful: for most shitty shit, there may not be enough buy orders to allow you to sell all your shit. So instead of getting BTC to buy CSD, you could end up holding a bag of shit.


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: gjhiggins on June 19, 2014, 06:18:24 PM
Could you outline the starting position - are you starting from 0 and accepting petitions or do you already have a candidate list by any chance? If the latter, could you please publish your criteria?

Cheers

Graham


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: dbt1033 on June 19, 2014, 06:44:25 PM
Very excited about Coin Shield!  Everybody check out their forum...it's really nice.


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: KryptoKash on June 19, 2014, 06:46:32 PM
I want to know, If i hold shitcoin, and want to sell it, why do not i sell in market to get btc? Why i should choose Coinshield channel system? what is advantage ?

A] If you watch the timer for channel opening, the trade value of CSD/SHIT will be higher than going trade value at launch, so early entry means you are freed of your SHIT with PROFIT

B] If you hold CSD instead of SHIT after using channel, its value will increase from the CSD buy orders going in from the SHIT being dumped, and if you time it correctly, you can then have MORE PROFIT as CSD price will increase upon SHIT DUMP

C] You no longer have to convince yourself that what you hold has VALUE, because you will help clear away the SHIT from the economies, and gain a good investment in return.

mmm.... I still don't understand [A].... why would the value be higher? who would give me more than market value for my shit and why? If it's true that I could be freed of my shit with profit, then maybe I should buy shit! it doesn't make much sense. If you are giving away CSD for shit, then wouldn't the value of CSD be as low as shit?

Be careful: for most shitty shit, there may not be enough buy orders to allow you to sell all your shit. So instead of getting BTC to buy CSD, you could end up holding a bag of shit.

Coinshield trade channels will use a highly advanced trade algorithm. It will take into account several factors, including value of both coins and the current buy orders of the shitcoin, as well as how many of the total supply we have already traded in and dumped. As we dump more of the coin it will decrease in value and the BTC that is generated will be automatically used to build buy walls (increase CSD value) which in turn will cause future trade in offers/value to be lower then the ones prior. This is just a brief outline on how it will work, Videlicet will explain more about this when he returns.

Could you outline the starting position - are you starting from 0 and accepting petitions or do you already have a candidate list by any chance? If the latter, could you please publish your criteria?

Cheers

Graham
We will be starting at 0. Anyone can submit a petition. If the community agrees with you and supports your petition then the coin is deemed a shitcoin and will be put to into our voting system. From there the worst shitcoin (the coin with the most votes) will get its own trade channel. Coinshield will then begin to absorb their economy and destroy the coin.


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: Videlicet on June 19, 2014, 07:25:03 PM
I want to know, If i hold shitcoin, and want to sell it, why do not i sell in market to get btc? Why i should choose Coinshield channel system? what is advantage ?

A] If you watch the timer for channel opening, the trade value of CSD/SHIT will be higher than going trade value at launch, so early entry means you are freed of your SHIT with PROFIT

B] If you hold CSD instead of SHIT after using channel, its value will increase from the CSD buy orders going in from the SHIT being dumped, and if you time it correctly, you can then have MORE PROFIT as CSD price will increase upon SHIT DUMP

C] You no longer have to convince yourself that what you hold has VALUE, because you will help clear away the SHIT from the economies, and gain a good investment in return.

mmm.... I still don't understand [A].... why would the value be higher? who would give me more than market value for my shit and why? If it's true that I could be freed of my shit with profit, then maybe I should buy shit! it doesn't make much sense. If you are giving away CSD for shit, then wouldn't the value of CSD be as low as shit?

Be careful: for most shitty shit, there may not be enough buy orders to allow you to sell all your shit. So instead of getting BTC to buy CSD, you could end up holding a bag of shit.

Coinshield trade channels will use a highly advanced trade algorithm. It will take into account several factors, including value of both coins and the current buy orders of the shitcoin, as well as how many of the total supply we have already traded in and dumped. As we dump more of the coin it will decrease in value and the BTC that is generated will be automatically used to build buy walls (increase CSD value) which in turn will cause future trade in offers/value to be lower then the ones prior. This is just a brief outline on how it will work, Videlicet will explain more about this when he returns.

Could you outline the starting position - are you starting from 0 and accepting petitions or do you already have a candidate list by any chance? If the latter, could you please publish your criteria?

Cheers

Graham
We will be starting at 0. Anyone can submit a petition. If the community agrees with you and supports your petition then the coin is deemed a shitcoin and will be put to into our voting system. From there the worst shitcoin (the coin with the most votes) will get its own trade channel. Coinshield will then begin to absorb their economy and destroy the coin.

As a followup:

The CSD will only be given under value for a few trades at initial channel opening, this will help to reward those that have been patiently watching the channels. The value of CSD will be increasing as this is happening [BTC Buy Walls], so you can ensure you aren't holding the bag of shit, as CSD will be absorbing the market cap of the said [shit]coin.

As for the buy orders, that will be taken into account with the decay equation regulating the trade value of channel, so that CSD is not negatively effected by any destruction of a shitcoin. The decay equations purpose is to accurately reflect the value of CSD/SHIT as the SHIT economy is crashing.

By the way gatra, I love your code in Reicoin :D

~Videlicet


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: gatra on June 19, 2014, 07:45:43 PM
By the way gatra, I love your code in Reicoin :D

~Videlicet

thanks! good luck with your shit absortion :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: Videlicet on June 19, 2014, 08:37:26 PM
By the way gatra, I love your code in Reicoin :D

~Videlicet

thanks! good luck with your shit absortion :)

it's now OUR shit absorption =)


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: gjhiggins on June 19, 2014, 08:57:33 PM
Coinshield lets users vote in any shitcoin to our system.

Just checking my understanding: in this context "users" are registered users of the coinshield.org forum?

Cheers,

Graham



Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: Videlicet on June 19, 2014, 09:31:47 PM
Coinshield lets users vote in any shitcoin to our system.

Just checking my understanding: in this context "users" are registered users of the coinshield.org forum?

Cheers,

Graham



Yes you are correct [well mostly], to clarify the process a little further, here is some [optional] detail:

Registration is only for coinshieldtalk.org, which is where the petitions are started. From there, the voting channel will be on the main site which will not require login, it will be regulated per IP. As for the exchange into an active channel, you will be supplied a deposit address, and will then deposit coins to that address. Once the system receives your transaction, you will receive a transaction of CSD to your deposit address. Keep in mind directly after the SHIT hits your supplied deposit address, it will be immediately transfered to the Exchange Deposit Address for Verification [this address will never change once channel is opened, but there may be more than one if the SHIT is on more than one exchange].

Your user account for the Coinshield Channels will be your CSD deposit address, no password because incentive to hack is none as you control your CSD deposit address. Personal stats for your channel will be added as the system gets developed, which is being programmed from scratch [By Me]. The channels will operate on our own Encrypted Database Server [coded by me], which I am planning on releasing open source when the timing is correct.

Hope this helps,
~Videlicet


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: W0rkH0rse on June 19, 2014, 10:39:09 PM
what is the point of the Coin    ???

It's an elaborate pump and dump scheme where your hard work guarantees the dev and a few whales make out like bandits while you buy the stockpiles of worthless coins they have been preparing. But they did it very cleverly. Most people will stop reading the ANN after the mathematical Ropedope:


Mathematically Regulated with slight Inflation
1 Minute POW, 10 Minute POS transitioning to 10 Minute POW, 1 Minute POS 50 * e^(-0.0000011 * nHeight * [Chain Time Modular]) + 3 Channels - Coin Trade in:10 * e^(-0.00000055 * nHeight * [Chain Time Modular]) + 3
Oh thank goodness it's mathematically regulated rather than hamster wheel regulated or brutal dictator regulated.


Block Reward Developers]:1 * e^(-0.00000059 * nHeight * [Chain Time Modular]) + 0.1
At least a premine only happens once but this is worse: a Postmine lasts forever

Constellation Primes [CPU] and X11 [GPU]
Shield Target [Chain, Channel, and Time Proportions]
3 Week Age, 3 Year Limit, 3% Annual Inflation
Coinbase Maturity: 360 Blocks ~ 6 Hours
Transaction Confirmation: 5 Blocks ~ 5 Minute

They could have said  "Confirm Time: 60 seconds" but obviously this was all intended to daze and confuse those the devs consider intellectually gullible and inferior (i.e. You and I)

Then you enter the psychological infomercial:
                   --------------------------------------           ---------------------------------
The Problem: |     Too many coins are worthless.        |        |         Tough dirt and stains.      |
                  |-------------------------------------- |         ---------------------------------
The solution: |Buy the most worthless coins and make |        | Use OxyClean With Scrubbing     |
                  |the shitcoin devs and bagholders rich]   |        | Bubble Super Nano Technology   |
                   ---------------------------------------         |--------------------------------|
                  | Your mining pays Devs a % per block & |        |                                             |
How it works:|also buys their worthless shitcoin bags  |        |                  (bleach)                |            
                   --------------------------------------           ---------------------------------
                  |                                                      |        |                                             |
Verdict:        |       Its a win win for the devs!           |        |    My underwear is less yellow    |  
                    --------------------------------------          ---------------------------------


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: Videlicet on June 19, 2014, 11:16:05 PM
what is the point of the Coin    ???

It's an elaborate pump and dump scheme where your hard work guarantees the dev and a few whales make out like bandits while you buy the stockpiles of worthless coins they have been preparing. But they did it very cleverly. Most people will stop reading the ANN after the mathematical Ropedope:


Mathematically Regulated with slight Inflation
1 Minute POW, 10 Minute POS transitioning to 10 Minute POW, 1 Minute POS 50 * e^(-0.0000011 * nHeight * [Chain Time Modular]) + 3 Channels - Coin Trade in:10 * e^(-0.00000055 * nHeight * [Chain Time Modular]) + 3
Oh thank goodness it's mathematically regulated rather than hamster wheel regulated or brutal dictator regulated.


Block Reward Developers]:1 * e^(-0.00000059 * nHeight * [Chain Time Modular]) + 0.1
At least a premine only happens once but this is worse: a Postmine lasts forever

Constellation Primes [CPU] and X11 [GPU]
Shield Target [Chain, Channel, and Time Proportions]
3 Week Age, 3 Year Limit, 3% Annual Inflation
Coinbase Maturity: 360 Blocks ~ 6 Hours
Transaction Confirmation: 5 Blocks ~ 5 Minute

They could have said  "Confirm Time: 60 seconds" but obviously this was all intended to daze and confuse those the devs consider intellectually gullible and inferior (i.e. You and I)

Then you enter the psychological infomercial:
                   --------------------------------------           ---------------------------------
The Problem: |     Too many coins are worthless.        |        |         Tough dirt and stains.      |
                  |-------------------------------------- |         ---------------------------------
The solution: |Buy the most worthless coins and make |        | Use OxyClean With Scrubbing     |
                  |the shitcoin devs and bagholders rich]   |        | Bubble Super Nano Technology   |
                   ---------------------------------------         |--------------------------------|
                  | Your mining pays Devs a % per block & |        |                                             |
How it works:|also buys their worthless shitcoin bags  |        |                  (bleach)                |            
                   --------------------------------------           ---------------------------------
                  |                                                      |        |                                             |
Verdict:        |       Its a win win for the devs!           |        |    My underwear is less yellow    |  
                    --------------------------------------          ---------------------------------

I understand your skepticism, is there any way I can help you to understand the process better? If you are suggesting to lighten the details on the coin spec page, I would tend to agree [I can get a little too detailed sometimes]. As for the idea of "pre-mine", there is none. There will be no possibility of a PUMP N DUMP, as it will take 10 years for Developer Account to reach a balance of ~2.2% of total supply, and there after equations decay you are left with:

REWARD[MINERS] = 3
REWARD[CHANNELS] = 3
REWARD[DEVS] = 0.1

3+3+0.1 = 6.1
0.1/6.1 = 1.6% [max dev fee after 10+ years]

Now these are the minimum values that will be used after the supply decay equations reduce to their minimum. This protects the investment for others [as it would take over 10 years to be able to PUMP AND DUMP with any effect]. "Pre mines" on the other hand, give large sums of coin instantly [average of 2%], that usually aren't balanced with the miner supply until many months after coin takes off, leaving the community vulnerable to any PUMP and DUMP scheme the dev has up their sleeve.

I appreciate points being made like this, because you are only looking out for the best interests of the community, and are protecting the decency that should be involved in Crypto Currencies... you will find in time, that this is precisely our mission.

Thank You,
~Videlicet

EDIT: I created a graphing program that I used to design the decay equations, if you would like to see it for yourself [The Program], with the equations mapped over time, don't hesitate to ask  :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: IMJim on June 19, 2014, 11:32:24 PM
I have to say you are doing a hell of a job responding respectably to all the critique here!  You have for sure proven to me that you are a GREAT person to represent and speak for this project!!


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: coinsolidation on June 19, 2014, 11:40:56 PM
define "chain time modular", that has a huge bearing on how this rewards..


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: W0rkH0rse on June 19, 2014, 11:42:45 PM

Look, you guys, I want you to suceed but your mining pays Devs a % per block which allows them to constantly sell this coin into the "Buy Walls" which should be renamed "Permanent Dev Dump Cash Bonanza."

Oh what? You get your own channel and a vote? Cool story bro. Beware, this whole pitch reeks of the
"One paragraph I use prepositional phrases perfectly and the next I pretend not to speak english" coingen crew.
And minipulation of all markets to make your one coin succeed is the biggest bucket of bullshit I've ever heard.


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: Videlicet on June 20, 2014, 12:00:01 AM
I have to say you are doing a hell of a job responding respectably to all the critique here!  You have for sure proven to me that you are a GREAT person to represent and speak for this project!!

Thank You, I appreciate the kind words ;D

define "chain time modular", that has a huge bearing on how this rewards..

Chain Time Modular is a Percent of Chain Time, so it would be ActualChainTime/TargetChainTime
This will keep the coin distribution curve on a time based model, rather than block based.

Think of it as such: as the block time gets faster than target time, the reward will be reduced to allow the same distribution curve over more blocks.


Look, you guys, I want you to suceed but your mining pays Devs a % per block which allows them to constantly sell this coin into the "Buy Walls" which should be renamed "Permanent Dev Dump Cash Bonanza."

Oh what? You get your own channel and a vote? Cool story bro. Beware, this whole pitch reeks of the
"One paragraph I use prepositional phrases perfectly and the next I pretend not to speak english" coingen crew.
And minipulation of all markets to make your one coin succeed is the biggest bucket of bullshit I've ever heard.

This is one issue, that can only be resolved in time when you see us true to our vision. This fee [as is your main issue], will cover our cost of living, pay for servers costs which have come from our own pocket, and allow us the time to develop correctly the coin, the channels, and the voting system [let alone allow me to continue to develop for the years to come].

This is why we are happy to change the equation to a more suitable number if you feel 1.6% is too large, because everyone's opinion counts here.
This coin is for the community, so therefore its features should justly be decided by the community as well.

Thank You,
~Videlicet


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: W0rkH0rse on June 20, 2014, 12:01:35 AM
Ok, I'll stop bashing you now. Can we look at the code please?


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: coinsolidation on June 20, 2014, 12:06:13 AM
define "chain time modular", that has a huge bearing on how this rewards..

Chain Time Modular is a Percent of Chain Time, so it would be ActualChainTime/TargetChainTime
This will keep the coin distribution curve on a time based model, rather than block based.

Think of it as such: as the block time gets faster than target time, the reward will be reduced to allow the same distribution curve over more blocks.

Define a hard range for the value. <1, 1-100, 1-10000 etc.


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: Videlicet on June 20, 2014, 12:47:48 AM
Ok, I'll stop bashing you now. Can we look at the code please?

What part of the code would you like to see?

define "chain time modular", that has a huge bearing on how this rewards..

Chain Time Modular is a Percent of Chain Time, so it would be ActualChainTime/TargetChainTime
This will keep the coin distribution curve on a time based model, rather than block based.

Think of it as such: as the block time gets faster than target time, the reward will be reduced to allow the same distribution curve over more blocks.

Define a hard range for the value. <1, 1-100, 1-10000 etc.

M >=0 and M <= 1.

~Videlicet


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: coinsolidation on June 20, 2014, 01:00:56 AM
Define a hard range for the value. <1, 1-100, 1-10000 etc.

M >=0 and M <= 1.

[/quote]

so after one hour:
50 * e^(-0.0000011 * 60 * 0.1) + 3 = 52.99
50 * e^(-0.0000011 * 60 * 0.5) + 3 = 52.99
50 * e^(-0.0000011 * 60 * 0.99) + 3 = 52.99

and after 5 years:
50 * e^(-0.0000011 * 2628000 * 0.1) + 3 = 40.44
50 * e^(-0.0000011 * 2628000 * 0.5) + 3 = 14.78
50 * e^(-0.0000011 * 2628000 * 0.99) + 3 = 6.707

okay.

How does the transition from PoW to PoS work, and over what time/block period?


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: W0rkH0rse on June 20, 2014, 01:26:35 AM
For this to be anywhere remotely successful you need a lot of people to get on board. Your wanting 10btc buy walls.... that's a lot of exchanging going on.
Also, why should we trust you? Who's to say your not going to skim off the top before creating these buy walls?
Your trying to hold the decency flag that bit coin has but the sole reason bitcoin was invented is so you don't have to trust ANYONE with your money. Yet you want us to trust you. A Newb account. What's your real bitcointalk username? Your 'heavily' involved so what's your usual handle? Why create a new account?
And don't give me that 'I've been a developer for 10 years bull' on bitcointalk everyone should assume guilty before innocent.
Prove me wrong.


You don't wear a ski mask into a bank unless you need to make a clean getaway. And senior forum members crawling out of the woodwork to shower this coin with praise on page 1 is red flag #2.


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: Videlicet on June 20, 2014, 01:34:06 AM

so after one hour:
50 * e^(-0.0000011 * 60 * 0.1) + 3 = 52.99
50 * e^(-0.0000011 * 60 * 0.5) + 3 = 52.99
50 * e^(-0.0000011 * 60 * 0.99) + 3 = 52.99

and after 5 years:
50 * e^(-0.0000011 * 2628000 * 0.1) + 3 = 40.44
50 * e^(-0.0000011 * 2628000 * 0.5) + 3 = 14.78
50 * e^(-0.0000011 * 2628000 * 0.99) + 3 = 6.707

okay.

How does the transition from PoW to PoS work, and over what time/block period?

Block Times: [1 Minute POW, 10 Minute POS] transitioning to [10 Minute POW, 1 Minute POS]

This is how it will transition from POW to POS, to where POS will be doing more of the block work after the 10 year initial distribution.
As to your work, here, let me explain a little more:

so after one hour: with chain time exactly at target [60 blocks]:
50 * e^(-0.0000011 * 60 * 1) + 3 = 52.996700451033118179646670870886

so after one hour: with chain time too fast [120 blocks]
50 * e^(-0.0000011 * 120 * 0.5) + 3 = 52.996700451033118179646670870886 [THIS IS THE SAME AS IF TARGET WERE EXACT]

This will adjust the block reward to be at target of 1 hours distribution, not 2 hours. If the modular was not in place, the distribution equations could be highly inflationary. I have a graphing program I developed that will graph the three block rewards if you would like to get a visual idea of how the graphs interact [created this to determine the equations].

~Videlicet


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: coinsolidation on June 20, 2014, 01:43:13 AM

so after one hour:
50 * e^(-0.0000011 * 60 * 0.1) + 3 = 52.99
50 * e^(-0.0000011 * 60 * 0.5) + 3 = 52.99
50 * e^(-0.0000011 * 60 * 0.99) + 3 = 52.99

and after 5 years:
50 * e^(-0.0000011 * 2628000 * 0.1) + 3 = 40.44
50 * e^(-0.0000011 * 2628000 * 0.5) + 3 = 14.78
50 * e^(-0.0000011 * 2628000 * 0.99) + 3 = 6.707

okay.

How does the transition from PoW to PoS work, and over what time/block period?

Block Times: [1 Minute POW, 10 Minute POS] transitioning to [10 Minute POW, 1 Minute POS]

This is how it will transition from POW to POS, to where POS will be doing more of the block work after the 10 year initial distribution.

Okay, I can graph the PoW blocks now over multiple years.

Over what block numbers will the transition from PoW to PoS take place? 1m PoW at block 1, 10m PoW by block x? (what is x)


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: Videlicet on June 20, 2014, 01:47:02 AM
It follows an exponential decay model, which follows a curve to ease shock to market. It will be minable forever, with minimal inflation of 1-3% after initial distribution which will decay to a minimum in around 10 years. Coinshield was designed to have longevity, and be a stable container for wealth for many years to come.

Isn't that when an atom has too many photons orbiting the nucleus and sheds some to become a different atom?

Yes! You have found it! I based these equations on a radioactive decay model, which is the emission of Alpha, Beta, and Gamma particles which are a Helium Ion of +2 charge, a Stray Electron, and high frequency electromagnetic field. The reason I chose this model using the transcendental number e, is that it is the most natural base for exponential growth/decay which is found in population models, radioactive decay, and so on. Satoshi used the block reward halving which is just a decay model of x/2, but not a very smooth decay I should say  ;)

[optional details] the nucleus of an atom decays because it has too many neutrons per proton [unstable isotope], which is the cause of radiation.


Thank you for a very good question,
~Videlicet


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: Videlicet on June 20, 2014, 01:53:39 AM

so after one hour:
50 * e^(-0.0000011 * 60 * 0.1) + 3 = 52.99
50 * e^(-0.0000011 * 60 * 0.5) + 3 = 52.99
50 * e^(-0.0000011 * 60 * 0.99) + 3 = 52.99

and after 5 years:
50 * e^(-0.0000011 * 2628000 * 0.1) + 3 = 40.44
50 * e^(-0.0000011 * 2628000 * 0.5) + 3 = 14.78
50 * e^(-0.0000011 * 2628000 * 0.99) + 3 = 6.707

okay.

How does the transition from PoW to PoS work, and over what time/block period?

Block Times: [1 Minute POW, 10 Minute POS] transitioning to [10 Minute POW, 1 Minute POS]

This is how it will transition from POW to POS, to where POS will be doing more of the block work after the 10 year initial distribution.

Okay, I can graph the PoW blocks now over multiple years.

Over what block numbers will the transition from PoW to PoS take place? 1m PoW at block 1, 10m PoW by block x? (what is x)

It will start the transition from the beginning of mining, and slowly move towards its target over 10 years. This will have a very smooth transition, over a long period of time to prevent any shock created from too many rapid changes in the mining environment.

EDIT: nHeight would be 60 * 24 * 365.25 * 10 = 5259600
EDIT: The equation to reduce block time would be using ln, where to increase would be e. ln(x) will always be increasing forever, but less and less as x increases. e will reduce to a 0, which can be used to set a minimum as in the distribution equations.

Example for POS e^(decayRate * nHeight * timeMod) + minimum time
Example for POW ln((nHeight*timeMod)^2) / ln((nHeight * timeMod) + CONSTANT)  [CONSTANT REGULATES RATE]

the first ln divided by second allows us to control the rate of increase on ln function

~Videlicet


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: coinsolidation on June 20, 2014, 02:25:56 AM
Let's put in some constants and swap the last variable to 1 since block time won't vary that much on this coin...

Block 120 (2 hours):
Miners: 50*e^(-0.0000011*120)+3 = 52.99
Dev: e^(-0.00000059 * 120) + 0.1 = 1.09

Block 525600 (1 year):
Miners: 50*e^(-0.0000011*525600)+3 = 31.04
Dev: e^(-0.00000059 * 525600) + 0.1 = 0.83

Block 2628000 (5 year):
Miners: 50*e^(-0.0000011*2628000)+3 = 5.776
Dev: e^(-0.00000059 * 2628000) + 0.1 = 0.312

So you start taking roughly 2%, rising to 2.7% after a year, and 5.4% after 5 years.

Unsure what to say, that's a horrible unfair greedy amount to try and take, and to try and mask using relatively complex equations.


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: Videlicet on June 20, 2014, 03:00:04 AM
Let's put in some constants and swap the last variable to 1 since block time won't vary that much on this coin...

Block 120 (2 hours):
Miners: 50*e^(-0.0000011*120)+3 = 52.99
Dev: e^(-0.00000059 * 120) + 0.1 = 1.09

Block 525600 (1 year):
Miners: 50*e^(-0.0000011*525600)+3 = 31.04
Dev: e^(-0.00000059 * 525600) + 0.1 = 0.83

Block 2628000 (5 year):
Miners: 50*e^(-0.0000011*2628000)+3 = 5.776
Dev: e^(-0.00000059 * 2628000) + 0.1 = 0.312

So you start taking roughly 2%, rising to 2.7% after a year, and 5.4% after 5 years.

Unsure what to say, that's a horrible unfair greedy amount to try and take, and to try and mask using relatively complex equations.

You are forgetting the Coinshield Channels, and that value per block does not mean higher value overall in exponential decay:

Block 120 (2 hours): 1.09 / 67.07 = [1.6% per block]
Miners: 50*e^(-0.0000011*120)+3 = 52.99
Channels: 10 * e^(-0.00000055 * 120) + 3 = 12.99
Dev: e^(-0.00000059 * 120) + 0.1 = 1.09

Block 525600 (1 year): 0.83 / 42.36 = [1.9% per block]
Miners: 50*e^(-0.0000011*525600)+3 = 31.04
Channels: 10 * e^(-0.00000055 * 525600) + 3 = 10.49
Dev: e^(-0.00000059 * 525600) + 0.1 = 0.83

COIN SUPPLY, 1 YEAR: 28,545,067
Total Mined: 21,801,631 [76% to miners]
Total Channel: 6,231,778 [21% to traders]
Total Dev: 511,658 [1.7% dev]

Block 2628000 (5 year): 0.312 / 11.438 = [2.7% per block]
Miners: 50*e^(-0.0000011*2628000)+3 = 5.776
Channels: 10 * e^(-0.00000055 * 2628000]) + 3 = 5.35
Dev: e^(-0.00000059 * 2628000) + 0.1 = 0.312

COIN SUPPLY, 5 YEARS: 74,341,701
Total Mined: 50,888,959 [68% to miners]
Total Channel: 21,850,548 [29% to traders]
Total Dev: 1,602,194 [2.1% dev]

Block 5256000 (10 year): 0.145 / 6.845 = [2.1% per block]
Miners: 50*e^(-0.0000011*5256000) + 3 = 3.15
Channels: 10 * e^(-0.00000055 * 5256000]) + 3 = 3.55
Dev: e^(-0.00000059 * 5256000) + 0.1 = 0.145

COIN SUPPLY 10 YEARS: 96,156,860
Total Mined: 61,077,806 [63% to miners]
Total Channel: 32,935,024 [34% to traders]
Total Dev: 2,144,030 [2.2% dev]

http://coinshield.io/images/graph.jpg

This graph is from the modeling program I used to design the equations.

EDIT: As you will notice, the channels do increase in [%] over time. This gives them more longevity.

~Videlicet


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: gjhiggins on June 20, 2014, 03:25:05 AM
Less coins in the marketplace, and tougher launch requirements are only the beginning of Coinshield.

Is there a consensus that fewer altcoins in the marketplace is a Good Thing? Is reducing the number actually one of the goals of the project and if so, do you have any equations which model it?

Could you say more about the “tougher launch requirements”, perhaps even describe some of them? As you might guess, I'd be interested in what you've come up with in terms of operational definitions.
 

Cheers

Graham


Edit removed stray markup from text


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: Videlicet on June 20, 2014, 03:27:18 AM
Less coins in the marketplace, and tougher launch requirements are only the beginning of Coinshield. [/I][/SIZE]

Is there a consensus that fewer altcoins in the marketplace is a Good Thing? Is reducing the number actually one of the goals of the project and if so, do you have any equations which model it?

Could you say more about the “tougher launch requirements”, perhaps even describe some of them? As you might guess, I'd be interested in what you've come up with in terms of operational definitions.
 

Cheers

Graham


This is entirely up to the community. As this community grows, they will gain a voice to be able to set the standard of quality that they deem fit. This is done through the voting systems.

~Videlicet


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: gjhiggins on June 20, 2014, 03:53:01 AM
This is entirely up to the community. As this community grows, they will gain a voice to be able to set the standard of quality that they deem fit. This is done through the voting systems.

That sort of raises more questions than it answers but perhaps I'm enquiring about an aspect of the project that is yet to be fully detailed.

I don't see any mention of an appeals or grievance procedure, have you considered that aspect yet?

Cheers,

Graham


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: Videlicet on June 20, 2014, 04:01:02 AM
This is entirely up to the community. As this community grows, they will gain a voice to be able to set the standard of quality that they deem fit. This is done through the voting systems.

That sort of raises more questions than it answers but perhaps I'm enquiring about an aspect of the project that is yet to be fully detailed.

I don't see any mention of an appeals or grievance procedure, have you considered that aspect yet?

Cheers,

Graham


That can be done through our forums, there can be a petition to add to voting, or appeals to remove from voting. Each one will require the user who submits it to supply proof as to whether to keep/kill coin. If community agrees through opinions on thread, and finally a voting poll, the coin will be added/removed to the voting system on main site. From there it is up to the community to vote that coin to the top of voting list to be the first one to have an exchange channel opened [once a channel is opened however, there will be no appeals]. From there, the dominoes fall, and everybody can agree that the coin needed to be gone. The limit is really with the people, there are no details because that is for all of you - The People - to decide.

~Videlicet


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: KryptoKash on June 20, 2014, 05:36:46 AM
For the next 10 days Videlicet will be focusing on the code. Any technical/advanced code questions will still be answered by him however there will be a delay in his replies. I will relay any suggestions that are posted to him as they come in. We both appreciate all the recommendations that have been posted thus far. Together I know we will build a better coin.

~KryptoKash


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: gjhiggins on June 20, 2014, 05:41:49 AM
Each one will require the user who submits it to supply proof as to whether to keep/kill coin.

I infer the above to be an ad hoc response. I appreciate we're conversing across a language barrier here and that you are doing far more work than I am but I don't think you mean “proof”, do you? You mean "argument", i.e. subjective rather than objective, opinion rather than fact.

You evidently have the arithmetic down cold but your declared project goals are, in practice, abandoned to the whim of the coinshield forum subscribers. I choose the more precise label because holders of coins disapproved of (for arbitrary reasons) by the coinshield subscribers also warrant recognition as a community. You apparently wish to tar the coin holders with the same broad brush you use to tar the coin devisers/operators.

You are making the mistake of treating shitcoin holders as shit coinholders. They're not the same thing at all.

This is a direct consequence of you omitting to define the term SHITCOIN, even though you use it freely as central plank of your story (support for your claims is noticeably absent from your post). You will likely discover the magnitude of this error the first time you openly and deliberately attempt organised manipulation of trading at an exchange in order to drive down the price and thus the worth of people's investments. (That is, more or less, your stated intention is it not?)

I recommend you adjust your budget to accommodate the consequences of collateral damage.


Cheers

Graham


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: Videlicet on June 20, 2014, 05:48:57 AM
Each one will require the user who submits it to supply proof as to whether to keep/kill coin.

I infer the above to be an ad hoc response. I appreciate we're conversing across a language barrier here and that you are doing far more work than I am but I don't think you mean “proof”, do you? You mean "argument", i.e. subjective rather than objective, opinion rather than fact.

You evidently have the arithmetic down cold but your declared project goals are, in practice, abandoned to the whim of the coinshield forum subscribers. I choose the more precise label because holders of coins disapproved of (for arbitrary reasons) by the coinshield subscribers also warrant recognition as a community. You apparently wish to tar the coin holders with the same broad brush you use to tar the coin devisers/operators.

You are making the mistake of treating shitcoin holders as shit coinholders. They're not the same thing at all.

This is a direct consequence of you omitting to define the term SHITCOIN, even though you use it freely as central plank of your story (support for your claims is noticeably absent from your post). You will likely discover the magnitude of this error the first time you openly and deliberately attempt organised manipulation of trading at an exchange in order to drive down the price and thus the worth of people's investments. (That is, more or less, your stated intention is it not?)

I recommend you adjust your budget to accommodate the consequences of collateral damage.


Cheers

Graham


Would you care to give a more detailed explanation on what adjustments should be made?

EDIT: I would like to point out, that it will be the community deciding the definition of [shit]coin, and the definition of what is acceptable. This will require them to state their best argument and support it with any and all facts in the petition/appeal. The purpose of us as the developers is to accurately reflect the community's voice through the software I develop, and the community that will grow on coinshieldtalk.org.

~Videlicet


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: gjhiggins on June 20, 2014, 08:10:59 AM
Would you care to give a more detailed explanation on what adjustments should be made?

As the project lead, you're in a better position than I to assess the relative risks.

EDIT: I would also like to point out, that it will be the community deciding the definition of [shit]coin, and the definition of what is acceptable.

I think we're at cross-purposes, I'll present a more abstract view:

The entire business model for this altcoin is predicated on the continuous cannibalisation of other altcoins, declared to be "shitcoin". The context thus capriciously forces a choice where otherwise none would exist - see previous threads for several "let's kick shitcoin butt" coins, none of which were able to develop a widely-accepted target acquisition method.

Here, this is overcome by the creation of a restrictive contest frame that artificially forces the acquisition of a target. It's an ugly contest in which the first prize is extinction. Responsibility for the consequences is abrogated to a group of forum subscribers, apparently as proxy for "the community".

We could just cut to the chase, renaming it CannibalisingCoin to more accurately reflect reality; it's an altcoin that can only survive by feeding off other altcoins declared to be "shitcoin". Hence my keen interest in the definition of foodcoin shitcoin.

Could you give an idea of how many altcoins are intended to be consumed over a period of say, the first year? Or is that something I should be deriving for myself from the arithmetic provided?

Cheers,

Graham


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: Videlicet on June 20, 2014, 04:55:44 PM
Would you care to give a more detailed explanation on what adjustments should be made?

As the project lead, you're in a better position than I to assess the relative risks.

EDIT: I would also like to point out, that it will be the community deciding the definition of [shit]coin, and the definition of what is acceptable.

I think we're at cross-purposes, I'll present a more abstract view:

The entire business model for this altcoin is predicated on the continuous cannibalisation of other altcoins, declared to be "shitcoin". The context thus capriciously forces a choice where otherwise none would exist - see previous threads for several "let's kick shitcoin butt" coins, none of which were able to develop a widely-accepted target acquisition method.

Here, this is overcome by the creation of a restrictive contest frame that artificially forces the acquisition of a target. It's an ugly contest in which the first prize is extinction. Responsibility for the consequences is abrogated to a group of forum subscribers, apparently as proxy for "the community".

We could just cut to the chase, renaming it CannibalisingCoin to more accurately reflect reality; it's an altcoin that can only survive by feeding off other altcoins declared to be "shitcoin". Hence my keen interest in the definition of foodcoin shitcoin.

Could you give an idea of how many altcoins are intended to be consumed over a period of say, the first year? Or is that something I should be deriving for myself from the arithmetic provided?

Cheers,

Graham


I hate being taken away from my wonderful world of code, but this question needed an appropriate answer [I like your thinking Graham].

I appreciate an intelligible conversation, but for cannibalizing this is not. We are giving the community the choices of a better option for an investment. The way Coin Shield is designed is to be a "return" to cover your losses if you have gotten taken into a bad investment, remember "Protecting Quality in Crypto Currencies". I have been tirelessly working on the code for about 8 weeks now, to fully understand how it works, and develop my own modifications that I feel would be an asset to a currency. Coin Shield does not need to destroy a coin to go anywhere, that is just an [option] people now have to use if they feel it is necessary - this is why I say it is all up to the community.

I am not one to determine what coins should stay or go, I only realize that at this moment in time, it is the wild west out here, and I hope we can all join together through a cause to bring some order in this chaos. I believe personally this will create a new breeding ground of quality, and that in the future, speculators would not turn their heads because they see things called "TomatoCoin". To me, personally, this is an insult to Satoshi, he did the heavy lifting for Bitcoin, and now everyone is ripping him off. You even speak with such a skepticism because everyone on the forum is going rampid trolling, spamming, etc [the reason I have received such scrutiny].

For me personally, I am lifting heavy things by spending 16-20 hours daily programming for the past 8 weeks, because I am following in the footsteps of Satoshi. This is our vision, to protect Satoshi's; and if anyone still cares about that, we can work together to protect it.

Think Clearly, not Deeply
~Videlicet

EDIT: The business model here is community opinion, which does not deem any coin has to be destroyed. It is entirely up to the public [people like you], to decide [if any] what coins are to be destroyed.


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: gjhiggins on June 20, 2014, 05:42:25 PM
For me personally, I am lifting ...

Yes, you're right, time to get back to work. I had hoped to persuade you of the folly of failing to define your terms; on reflection I realise you'll undoubtedly gain more all-round benefit by developing your own understanding.

Good luck with it all.

Cheers,

Graham


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: Videlicet on June 20, 2014, 05:49:48 PM
For me personally, I am lifting ...

Yes, you're right, time to get back to work. I had hoped to persuade you of the folly of failing to define your terms; on reflection I realise you'll undoubtedly gain more all-round benefit by developing your own understanding.

Good luck with it all.

Cheers,

Graham


Or by being able to accurately interpret the communities understanding, as we are only a reflection of public opinion.

Thank You [Graham],
~Videlicet


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: gjhiggins on June 20, 2014, 06:09:45 PM
Or by being able to accurately interpret the communities understanding

Ah, sorry, I should have been more explicit.

I intended the meaning to be "develop your own understanding of the consequences of failing to define your terms" and that's what I should have written.

Cheers,

Graham


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency Design
Post by: Videlicet on June 20, 2014, 06:15:08 PM
Or by being able to accurately interpret the communities understanding

Ah, sorry, I should have been more explicit.

I intended the meaning to be "develop your own understanding of the consequences of failing to define your terms" and that's what I should have written.

Cheers,

Graham


Ah yes, I understand you now. You are welcome to direct suggestions to KryptoKash on definition of terms, and we can modify the OP to reflect just that [as you are currently the only public opinion concerning this matter].

~Videlicet


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Protecting Quality in Crypto Currency | Shitcoin Destroyer
Post by: KryptoKash on June 21, 2014, 03:00:45 AM
I re-wrote the OP. I tried to explain the entire process as best as I could. Sorry guys, Videlicet tends to get lost in the details sometimes. This should clear up any confusion.


Title: Re: [PRE-ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Destroyer | Coinshield Verification
Post by: Videlicet on June 21, 2014, 05:24:53 PM
So, I require the [opinion] of the community.

Wrote a Hailstone Sequence Miner, [to calculate Collatz numbers in Series], it works, difficulty too.

A] Does anyone have any other ideas of a mathematical series that can be used?
B] Should we stay with Reicoin [or maybe implement Hailstone] for the CPU channel?

I would love some [input]
So I can produce more [output]  :D

~Videlicet

EDIT: reorganized slightly


Title: Re: [PRE-ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Destroyer | Coinshield Verification
Post by: Crypto_Enthusiast on June 21, 2014, 07:47:46 PM

Great idea, I like this.

Good luck guys!


Title: Re: [PRE-ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Destroyer | Coinshield Verification
Post by: mumus on June 21, 2014, 08:34:31 PM
So, I require the [opinion] of the community.

Wrote a Hailstone Sequence Miner, [to calculate Collatz numbers in Series], it works, difficulty too.

A] Does anyone have any other ideas of a mathematical series that can be used?
B] Should we stay with Reicoin [or maybe implement Hailstone] for the CPU channel?

I would love some [input]
So I can produce more [output]  :D

~Videlicet

EDIT: reorganized slightly

I like the idea and sounds very interesting (though I'm not a mathematician). Can you give us more details on the Hailstone Sequence miner? The difficulty would be the length (steps) of the sequence? The starting number will be based on the block hash?


Title: Re: [PRE-ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Destroyer | Coinshield Verification
Post by: Videlicet on June 21, 2014, 09:01:21 PM
So, I require the [opinion] of the community.

Wrote a Hailstone Sequence Miner, [to calculate Collatz numbers in Series], it works, difficulty too.

A] Does anyone have any other ideas of a mathematical series that can be used?
B] Should we stay with Reicoin [or maybe implement Hailstone] for the CPU channel?

I would love some [input]
So I can produce more [output]  :D

~Videlicet

EDIT: reorganized slightly

I like the idea and sounds very interesting (though I'm not a mathematician). Can you give us more details on the Hailstone Sequence miner? The difficulty would be the length (steps) of the sequence? The starting number will be based on the block hash?

Hailstone series is when number is even, divide by 2. When number is odd, multiply by 3 and add 1 [ex. 6, 3, 10, 5, 16, 8, 4, 2, 1]. This series will go on until it eventually reaches 1... the unproven part of it, is that it has not been proven that infinite Hailstone series exist. This was just a starting point to get a good idea of how hard it would be to implement new CPU POW, and it is actually easier than I expected.

I have been leaning towards Goldbach's Conjecture, which states that any integer greater than two is the sum of two primes, and that any integer greater than five is the sum of three primes. This leads me to question as to the existence of four primes/so on [this could open more doorways in the future]. The reason I am leaning towards this Conjecture, is it is the core of RSA encryption, and if proven either way will impact Cryptography significantly.

As for starting point, that is a better idea to use block hash [my plan was over complicated, of course]. I am also thinking of having a secondary requirement where miner has to submit X digits of transcendental number (Phi, Pi, or E) along with the block POW. This could add some depth to the network, as the block chain could store all digits of said number [very useful to number theorists].

EDIT: Difficulty is regulated by logarithm of root, added to the difficulty value [longer series become more common as digits increase]

What do you think?
~Videlicet


Title: Re: [PRE-ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Destroyer | Coinshield Verification
Post by: CoinCalendar on June 21, 2014, 09:08:34 PM
Coinshield has now been added to the Coin Calendar! Good luck with the launch, we've linked through to your website and kept information in relation to your coin LINK (http://coincalendar.net/#!event_2014_6_29_1_3_1_Coin+Shield)


Title: Re: [PRE-ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Coinshield Verification
Post by: BitSlapper on June 22, 2014, 01:34:44 AM
I really like the idea of this coin! Hopefully it will take off.


Have you considered using Scrypt-Jane for GPU mining?

It has an adaptive N-Factor like Scrypt-N but can use up to 7 different hashing algorithms compared to Scrypt-N which only uses 1.


Title: Re: [PRE-ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Coinshield Verification
Post by: Videlicet on June 22, 2014, 02:03:49 AM
I really like the idea of this coin! Hopefully it will take off.


Have you considered using Scrypt-Jane for GPU mining?

It has an adaptive N-Factor like Scrypt-N but can use up to 7 different hashing algorithms compared to Scrypt-N which only uses 1.

This is a very good suggestion, Thank You!

I will be releasing in next few days what I've chosen for GPU channel based on community's input. [This will be for assessment if anyone has any more suggestions  ;)].

~Videlicet


Title: Re: [PRE-ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Coinshield Verification
Post by: KryptoKash on June 22, 2014, 02:23:28 AM
Now is the time to suggest anything you feel we need to change. The next update on the OP (which will be in the next few days) will show you what we improved!   ;D


Title: Re: [PRE-ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Coinshield Verification
Post by: McNulty on June 22, 2014, 01:03:40 PM
scrypt jane sucks  (need a lot of ram - high power usage)

Groestl algo seems to be a good choice for me or Qubit for example


Title: Re: [PRE-ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Coinshield Verification
Post by: ElliottHe on June 22, 2014, 01:08:22 PM
Sounds interesting...

Exchange shit coin with CoinShield.. Then will you sell the shit coin on the market?


Title: Re: [PRE-ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Coinshield Verification
Post by: Amph on June 22, 2014, 01:11:50 PM
deletecoin 2.0? not exactly new, but ok

i want to see it in action, the last time it didn't work at all


Title: Re: [PRE-ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Destroyer | Coinshield Verification
Post by: mumus on June 22, 2014, 01:20:18 PM
So, I require the [opinion] of the community.

Wrote a Hailstone Sequence Miner, [to calculate Collatz numbers in Series], it works, difficulty too.

A] Does anyone have any other ideas of a mathematical series that can be used?
B] Should we stay with Reicoin [or maybe implement Hailstone] for the CPU channel?

I would love some [input]
So I can produce more [output]  :D

~Videlicet

EDIT: reorganized slightly

I like the idea and sounds very interesting (though I'm not a mathematician). Can you give us more details on the Hailstone Sequence miner? The difficulty would be the length (steps) of the sequence? The starting number will be based on the block hash?

Hailstone series is when number is even, divide by 2. When number is odd, multiply by 3 and add 1 [ex. 6, 3, 10, 5, 16, 8, 4, 2, 1]. This series will go on until it eventually reaches 1... the unproven part of it, is that it has not been proven that infinite Hailstone series exist. This was just a starting point to get a good idea of how hard it would be to implement new CPU POW, and it is actually easier than I expected.

I have been leaning towards Goldbach's Conjecture, which states that any integer greater than two is the sum of two primes, and that any integer greater than five is the sum of three primes. This leads me to question as to the existence of four primes/so on [this could open more doorways in the future]. The reason I am leaning towards this Conjecture, is it is the core of RSA encryption, and if proven either way will impact Cryptography significantly.

As for starting point, that is a better idea to use block hash [my plan was over complicated, of course]. I am also thinking of having a secondary requirement where miner has to submit X digits of transcendental number (Phi, Pi, or E) along with the block POW. This could add some depth to the network, as the block chain could store all digits of said number [very useful to number theorists].

EDIT: Difficulty is regulated by logarithm of root, added to the difficulty value [longer series become more common as digits increase]

What do you think?
~Videlicet

OK. I'm not sure if I understand how the difficulty will be adjusted.
What I understood from wikipedia the max number of steps in a sequence is related to the size (number of digits) of the starting number, and as you wrote when the digits increase the longer series also more common. What can be problematic is when we are searching for a longer series than it's possible to achieve with the starting number.
Quote from Wiki:
Quote
The longest progression for any initial starting number less than 100 million is 63,728,127, which has 949 steps. For starting numbers less than 1 billion it is 670,617,279, with 986 steps, and for numbers less than 10 billion it is 9,780,657,630, with 1132 steps.
I didn't read the full article yet but it's also important to know the relation between the size of the starting number and the probability to find  a fixed number of steps.
(Again I want to mention here that I'm not a mathematician :))


Title: Re: [PRE-ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Coinshield Verification
Post by: 1211 on June 22, 2014, 01:20:33 PM
OP, are you muddafudda?


Title: Re: [PRE-ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Coinshield Verification
Post by: Nxtblg on June 22, 2014, 03:09:54 PM
A very intriguing concept!

Just one flaw I can think of: if CoinShield takes off, the usual suspects will change their 'business model' to deliberately creating crapcoins to dump on Coinshield. Back in the days of J.D. Rockefeller, old J.D. had the idea of monopolizing the refinery sector by buying out Standard competitors at a premium. One joker saw that he could build refineries and make a quick profit by selling into Standard's open offer. Reportedly he built three before J.P found out.


Title: Re: [PRE-ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Coinshield Verification
Post by: KryptoKash on June 22, 2014, 04:43:44 PM
Sounds interesting...

Exchange shit coin with CoinShield.. Then will you sell the shit coin on the market?

Yes, this is a summary of what happens to the shitcoins from the OP:

The Death Of The Shitcoin.... Oh Did I Forget To Mention You Earn Even More Money From This?
You might be asking yourself why does Coinshield want your shitcoins? Well as it turns out we don't. As soon as the system gets them, they are automatically transferred to the nearest exchange! (Okay maybe not the nearest but the one with the highest buy order). Once in that exchange, they are dumped on that buy order. This will not only begin to crash their value, it will also generate Bitcoins! The Coinshield Exchange System will then use these Bitcoins to build buy walls. Coinshield does not just destroy a shitcoin, it also absorbs their economy! Remember those shitcoins you traded to us for Coinshield? Well not only did we use them to kill that coin we also used them to raise the value of the coins we gave you.


Title: Re: [PRE-ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Coinshield Verification
Post by: KryptoKash on June 22, 2014, 04:56:40 PM
A very intriguing concept!

Just one flaw I can think of: if CoinShield takes off, the usual suspects will change their 'business model' to deliberately creating crapcoins to dump on Coinshield. Back in the days of J.D. Rockefeller, old J.D. had the idea of monopolizing the refinery sector by buying out Standard competitors at a premium. One joker saw that he could build refineries and make a quick profit by selling into Standard's open offer. Reportedly he built three before J.P found out.

Videlicet and I have discussed this very scenario and came up with a way to prevent this from happening. The systems trade algorithm will prevent shitcoins from purposely dumping on us. I'll have Videlicet explain the details behind his code when he takes a breather from his coding session.
Thank you
~KryptoKash


Title: Re: [PRE-ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Coinshield Verification
Post by: CryptoHobo on June 22, 2014, 05:18:51 PM

How Does Coinshield Do All That?
There is a long version and a short version answer to this question. The short version is simple: YOU! Let me explain. The Coinshield process begins when a user of our community (sign up and register your username now before someone else does http://coinshieldtalk.org (http://coinshieldtalk.org)) creates a petition declaring that "Flyingtoes Coin" is a shitcoin and needs to be stopped (of course we all know "Flyingtoes Coin" is not a real coin, this just an example). This petition will contain a poll (so users of the community can vote if the coin is a shitcoin or not), and an argument as to why the OP feels so strongly that the coin is a shitcoin and needs to be destroyed.y into a faded memory. Each "winner" will be put to vote on our main page


I really hope we don't end up with a Flyingtoes Coin now.

great thread I'm probably far too noob to be much use tbh but i'll throw some input in if anything springs up

kinda like the dump shitcoins to build buy walls idea


Title: Re: [PRE-ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Destroyer | Coinshield Verification
Post by: Videlicet on June 22, 2014, 06:01:39 PM
scrypt jane sucks  (need a lot of ram - high power usage)

Groestl algo seems to be a good choice for me or Qubit for example

This seems to be a bit of consensus here, Thank You for your input. What do you suggest be done to deter ASIC/FPGA off the GPU channel other than large memory requirements?

So, I require the [opinion] of the community.

Wrote a Hailstone Sequence Miner, [to calculate Collatz numbers in Series], it works, difficulty too.

A] Does anyone have any other ideas of a mathematical series that can be used?
B] Should we stay with Reicoin [or maybe implement Hailstone] for the CPU channel?

I would love some [input]
So I can produce more [output]  :D

~Videlicet

EDIT: reorganized slightly

I like the idea and sounds very interesting (though I'm not a mathematician). Can you give us more details on the Hailstone Sequence miner? The difficulty would be the length (steps) of the sequence? The starting number will be based on the block hash?

Hailstone series is when number is even, divide by 2. When number is odd, multiply by 3 and add 1 [ex. 6, 3, 10, 5, 16, 8, 4, 2, 1]. This series will go on until it eventually reaches 1... the unproven part of it, is that it has not been proven that infinite Hailstone series exist. This was just a starting point to get a good idea of how hard it would be to implement new CPU POW, and it is actually easier than I expected.

I have been leaning towards Goldbach's Conjecture, which states that any integer greater than two is the sum of two primes, and that any integer greater than five is the sum of three primes. This leads me to question as to the existence of four primes/so on [this could open more doorways in the future]. The reason I am leaning towards this Conjecture, is it is the core of RSA encryption, and if proven either way will impact Cryptography significantly.

As for starting point, that is a better idea to use block hash [my plan was over complicated, of course]. I am also thinking of having a secondary requirement where miner has to submit X digits of transcendental number (Phi, Pi, or E) along with the block POW. This could add some depth to the network, as the block chain could store all digits of said number [very useful to number theorists].

EDIT: Difficulty is regulated by logarithm of root, added to the difficulty value [longer series become more common as digits increase]

What do you think?
~Videlicet

OK. I'm not sure if I understand how the difficulty will be adjusted.
What I understood from wikipedia the max number of steps in a sequence is related to the size (number of digits) of the starting number, and as you wrote when the digits increase the longer series also more common. What can be problematic is when we are searching for a longer series than it's possible to achieve with the starting number.
Quote from Wiki:
Quote
The longest progression for any initial starting number less than 100 million is 63,728,127, which has 949 steps. For starting numbers less than 1 billion it is 670,617,279, with 986 steps, and for numbers less than 10 billion it is 9,780,657,630, with 1132 steps.
I didn't read the full article yet but it's also important to know the relation between the size of the starting number and the probability to find  a fixed number of steps.
(Again I want to mention here that I'm not a mathematician :))

When I wrote miner a day ago, I found the the formula (root^1/3 + difficulty) worked quite well [to get average chain length per root digits]. Difficulty could then be a number (700) for starters. I then had difficulty modulation based on average block time, and time between blocks [set to 15 second target] and it ran all night with a continuous average time of 15 seconds [of course increasing the root over this time]. It seemed to be stable, but was created more as a test to how difficult it would be to implement scientifically valid POW.

The second option is to have hash be at specific target [like normal], but nNonce values to produce hash have to fall into a specific pattern [hailstone, goldbach, etc]. This will keep scientific validity, but retain hashing security. This could even have two layers of difficulty [nNonce requirement, hash target requirement].


A very intriguing concept!

Just one flaw I can think of: if CoinShield takes off, the usual suspects will change their 'business model' to deliberately creating crapcoins to dump on Coinshield. Back in the days of J.D. Rockefeller, old J.D. had the idea of monopolizing the refinery sector by buying out Standard competitors at a premium. One joker saw that he could build refineries and make a quick profit by selling into Standard's open offer. Reportedly he built three before J.P found out.

Videlicet and I have discussed this very scenario and came up with a way to prevent this from happening. The systems trade algorithm will prevent shitcoins from purposely dumping on us. I'll have Videlicet explain the details behind his code when he takes a breather from his coding session.
Thank you
~KryptoKash

This could work - but the only way to "prevent" is not by eliminating possibility, but by making the profits of such a scheme minimized. The way this can be done, would be through the channels. Let us say that coin X is verified by Coinshield Community, and coin Y clones it. Coin Y will have an exchange channel opened, because coin X community noticed the forgery. Coin Y having been newly launched will not have much value in the Coinshield Channels [because it is a case of forgery, and has no longevity as a coin]. This will deter such acts, for in order for anyone to make any sort of money with such a scheme, they would need to make an innovative coin [in order to survive forgery scrutiny, build a value, then destroy with profits]. This is the expense for profits, for why would anyone spend time to innovate just to petition their own destruction? [let alone be able to convince the community that this innovation needs to die].

As a community we can work together to create an environment of decency, respect, and quality.

EDIT: slight restructuring / rewording after last proofread

~Videlicet


Title: Re: [PRE-ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Coinshield Verification
Post by: McNulty on June 22, 2014, 08:29:01 PM
you can make it multi-algo too, like myriadcoin or saffroncoin

combined with POS, it would be a first  ;)


Title: Re: [PRE-ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Coinshield Verification
Post by: Videlicet on June 22, 2014, 09:01:43 PM
you can make it multi-algo too, like myriadcoin or saffroncoin

combined with POS, it would be a first  ;)

Already doing! There will be a CPU channel [with scientific validity], a GPU channel [custom algorithm being decided by community], and POS channel.

Good Thinking  ;)

~Videlicet


Title: Re: [PRE-ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Coinshield Verification
Post by: bigreddmachine on June 22, 2014, 11:48:31 PM
I've been a bitcointalk lurker for month and months, and this announcement actually made me register an account because I have so many issues with this idea.

If you all are actually serious about this, and not just scammers, you'll do the following before launching...

1) Announce this coin on every major crypto community online

2) Push your launch date back at least a month so that more and better input can come

3) Get multiple major exchanges on board with the idea

4) Make all of your code open source with at least 2 weeks to go before launch so that the community can review what you are working on


It is troubling that two random, anonymous guys with no history on these forums are announcing a coin that they promise is 100% for the good of the crypto community.  It is even more troubling that the so-called lead developer has supposedly had to spend so much time looking at the code to understand what is going on in whatever code you are trying to fork.  And yet ever more troubling is the fact that you've so far acted almost as if you really don't know very much about any of the alternative mining algorithms out there, about possibilities of FPGA development, and about what it would take to develop your own mining algorithm.

I'm sorry, but the only way a project like this should ever gain any community support is if guys like Gavin Andresen, Charlie Lee, and even the pseudonymous Sunny King were to come on board as a collective of developers interested in contributing.

Not to mention the fact that your entire premise is pretty foul... "Have you been taken by a dev of a bad coin?  Let's stick it to all the people that still hold and believe in that coin as fair retribution!  If we get enough people, we can take over the altcoin world one coin at a time!"  This whole thing sounds like a half-baked scheme of militants looking to take over regions in the TV show Revolution.  Quite frankly, the bottom line with cryptocurrency is that you should never invest what you can't afford to lose, and no one forced you to ever participate in a bad coin.  If you really want to avoid "scam" coins, then don't invest in them.  Do some research before you get involved in something, and properly assess the risks you are taking by jumping on a coin.

By the way, your sign off "Think clearly, not deeply" is the biggest joke I've ever seen.  If you're not thinking deeply, you shouldn't be involved in developing a new currency.


Title: Re: [PRE-ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Coinshield Verification
Post by: Videlicet on June 23, 2014, 12:22:50 AM
I've been a bitcointalk lurker for month and months, and this announcement actually made me register an account because I have so many issues with this idea.

If you all are actually serious about this, and not just scammers, you'll do the following before launching...

1) Announce this coin on every major crypto community online

2) Push your launch date back at least a month so that more and better input can come

3) Get multiple major exchanges on board with the idea

4) Make all of your code open source with at least 2 weeks to go before launch so that the community can review what you are working on


It is troubling that two random, anonymous guys with no history on these forums are announcing a coin that they promise is 100% for the good of the crypto community.  It is even more troubling that the so-called lead developer has supposedly had to spend so much time looking at the code to understand what is going on in whatever code you are trying to fork.  And yet ever more troubling is the fact that you've so far acted almost as if you really don't know very much about any of the alternative mining algorithms out there, about possibilities of FPGA development, and about what it would take to develop your own mining algorithm.

I'm sorry, but the only way a project like this should ever gain any community support is if guys like Gavin Andresen, Charlie Lee, and even the pseudonymous Sunny King were to come on board as a collective of developers interested in contributing.

Not to mention the fact that your entire premise is pretty foul... "Have you been taken by a dev of a bad coin?  Let's stick it to all the people that still hold and believe in that coin as fair retribution!  If we get enough people, we can take over the altcoin world one coin at a time!"  This whole thing sounds like a half-baked scheme of militants looking to take over regions in the TV show Revolution.  Quite frankly, the bottom line with cryptocurrency is that you should never invest what you can't afford to lose, and no one forced you to ever participate in a bad coin.  If you really want to avoid "scam" coins, then don't invest in them.  Do some research before you get involved in something, and properly assess the risks you are taking by jumping on a coin.

By the way, your sign off "Think clearly, not deeply" is the biggest joke I've ever seen.  If you're not thinking deeply, you shouldn't be involved in developing a new currency.

Every place needs a starting point [just as you have found, with your registering an account here]. This is balanced with my exact circumstances.

The first point of Coinshield is to be a useful coin, with innovative features that the community as a whole can take part in. Some of these innovations include [custom CPU POW channel, custom GPU POW channel (not for FPGA use), Custom Difficulty, Time Based Distribution]. The second aspect of Coinshield is the [option] of speaking up about anything in the industry that needs to be [cleaned] or [protected].

Think Clearly, Not Deeply ~ Nikola Tesla [might wan't to check out a quote before you flame someone who invented the modern world  ;)]

~Videlicet


Title: Re: [PRE-ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Coinshield Verification
Post by: phzi on June 23, 2014, 12:43:08 AM
Certainly an interesting idea.  I look forward to seeing the algorithm choice - please use something memory hard.


Title: Re: [PRE-ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Coinshield Verification
Post by: bigreddmachine on June 23, 2014, 12:45:49 AM

Every place needs a starting point [just as you have found, with your registering an account here]. This is balanced with my exact circumstances.

The first point of Coinshield is to be a useful coin, with innovative features that the community as a whole can take part in. Some of these innovations include [custom CPU POW channel, custom GPU POW channel (not for FPGA use), Custom Difficulty, Time Based Distribution]. The second aspect of Coinshield is the [option] of speaking up about anything in the industry that needs to be [cleaned] or [protected].

Think Clearly, Not Deeply ~ Nikola Tesla [might wan't to check out a quote before you flame someone who invented the modern world  ;)]

~Videlicet

Thank you for replying to none of my concerns.  I appreciate that you are trying to introduce new innovations via this coin, but your middle paragraph only serves to avoid answering any of the points I raised.  This further causes me great angst as to the motives of this coin.

As for your Tesla quote, you might want to check your own quote before you flame someone who raised legitimate concerns that you chose to ignore.  Nicola Tesla said "The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane."  This is a far cry from "Think clearly, not deeply."  Tesla said that scientists wrongly assume that thinking deeply is an acceptable alternative to thinking clearly, and that in doing so they are likely to lead themselves astray.  He does not say that one should think clearly and not deeply.  While a sane person thinks clearly, a sane person who wants to make major contributions to society does both... he/she thinks both clearly and deeply.

Now, again, I would like to raise my concerns a second time, and would appreciate an actual response:

I've been a bitcointalk lurker for month and months, and this announcement actually made me register an account because I have so many issues with this idea.

If you all are actually serious about this, and not just scammers, you'll do the following before launching...

1) Announce this coin on every major crypto community online

2) Push your launch date back at least a month so that more and better input can come

3) Get multiple major exchanges on board with the idea

4) Make all of your code open source with at least 2 weeks to go before launch so that the community can review what you are working on


It is troubling that two random, anonymous guys with no history on these forums are announcing a coin that they promise is 100% for the good of the crypto community.  It is even more troubling that the so-called lead developer has supposedly had to spend so much time looking at the code to understand what is going on in whatever code you are trying to fork.  And yet ever more troubling is the fact that you've so far acted almost as if you really don't know very much about any of the alternative mining algorithms out there, about possibilities of FPGA development, and about what it would take to develop your own mining algorithm.

I'm sorry, but the only way a project like this should ever gain any community support is if guys like Gavin Andresen, Charlie Lee, and even the pseudonymous Sunny King were to come on board as a collective of developers interested in contributing.

Not to mention the fact that your entire premise is pretty foul... "Have you been taken by a dev of a bad coin?  Let's stick it to all the people that still hold and believe in that coin as fair retribution!  If we get enough people, we can take over the altcoin world one coin at a time!"  This whole thing sounds like a half-baked scheme of militants looking to take over regions in the TV show Revolution.  Quite frankly, the bottom line with cryptocurrency is that you should never invest what you can't afford to lose, and no one forced you to ever participate in a bad coin.  If you really want to avoid "scam" coins, then don't invest in them.  Do some research before you get involved in something, and properly assess the risks you are taking by jumping on a coin.

By the way, your sign off "Think clearly, not deeply" is the biggest joke I've ever seen.  If you're not thinking deeply, you shouldn't be involved in developing a new currency.


Title: Re: [PRE-ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Coinshield Verification
Post by: Videlicet on June 23, 2014, 12:53:17 AM

Every place needs a starting point [just as you have found, with your registering an account here]. This is balanced with my exact circumstances.

The first point of Coinshield is to be a useful coin, with innovative features that the community as a whole can take part in. Some of these innovations include [custom CPU POW channel, custom GPU POW channel (not for FPGA use), Custom Difficulty, Time Based Distribution]. The second aspect of Coinshield is the [option] of speaking up about anything in the industry that needs to be [cleaned] or [protected].

Think Clearly, Not Deeply ~ Nikola Tesla [might wan't to check out a quote before you flame someone who invented the modern world  ;)]

~Videlicet

Thank you for replying to none of my concerns.  I appreciate that you are trying to introduce new innovations via this coin, but your middle paragraph only serves to avoid answering any of the points I raised.  This further causes me great angst as to the motives of this coin.

As for your Tesla quote, you might want to check your own quote before you flame someone who raised legitimate concerns that you chose to ignore.  Nicola Tesla said "The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane."  This is a far cry from "Think clearly, not deeply."  Tesla said that scientists wrongly assume that thinking deeply is an acceptable alternative to thinking clearly, and that in doing so they are likely to lead themselves astray.  He does not say that one should think clearly and not deeply.  While a sane person thinks clearly, a sane person who wants to make major contributions to society does both... he/she thinks both clearly and deeply.

Now, again, I would like to raise my concerns a second time, and would appreciate an actual response:

I've been a bitcointalk lurker for month and months, and this announcement actually made me register an account because I have so many issues with this idea.

If you all are actually serious about this, and not just scammers, you'll do the following before launching...

1) Announce this coin on every major crypto community online

2) Push your launch date back at least a month so that more and better input can come

3) Get multiple major exchanges on board with the idea

4) Make all of your code open source with at least 2 weeks to go before launch so that the community can review what you are working on


It is troubling that two random, anonymous guys with no history on these forums are announcing a coin that they promise is 100% for the good of the crypto community.  It is even more troubling that the so-called lead developer has supposedly had to spend so much time looking at the code to understand what is going on in whatever code you are trying to fork.  And yet ever more troubling is the fact that you've so far acted almost as if you really don't know very much about any of the alternative mining algorithms out there, about possibilities of FPGA development, and about what it would take to develop your own mining algorithm.

I'm sorry, but the only way a project like this should ever gain any community support is if guys like Gavin Andresen, Charlie Lee, and even the pseudonymous Sunny King were to come on board as a collective of developers interested in contributing.

Not to mention the fact that your entire premise is pretty foul... "Have you been taken by a dev of a bad coin?  Let's stick it to all the people that still hold and believe in that coin as fair retribution!  If we get enough people, we can take over the altcoin world one coin at a time!"  This whole thing sounds like a half-baked scheme of militants looking to take over regions in the TV show Revolution.  Quite frankly, the bottom line with cryptocurrency is that you should never invest what you can't afford to lose, and no one forced you to ever participate in a bad coin.  If you really want to avoid "scam" coins, then don't invest in them.  Do some research before you get involved in something, and properly assess the risks you are taking by jumping on a coin.

By the way, your sign off "Think clearly, not deeply" is the biggest joke I've ever seen.  If you're not thinking deeply, you shouldn't be involved in developing a new currency.

Thank you for raising these concerns [they are being taken into account]. As for a debate of semantics, I simply do not have the time.

EDIT: I decided to take some time to explain your points, so please let us have some decency:
1) Announce this coin on every major crypto community online - The purpose of Coinshield is not to be based on hype, but based on clarity and attention. Hype is the general fuel of [shit]coins.
2) Push your launch date back at least a month so that more and better input can come - Possible yes, but up to community. The launch date can always be extended.
3) Get multiple major exchanges on board with the idea - This is a classic tactic of any [shit]coin, innovative coins get picked up by exchanges naturally.
4) Make all of your code open source with at least 2 weeks to go before launch so that the community can review what you are working on - This would allow anyone to steal code before launch. We will release source code at the launch time, though are willing to cooperate with other developers interested in helping on this project [before or after launch].

I will say, that this a good point
a sane person who wants to make major contributions to society does both... he/she thinks both clearly and deeply.
+1 :)

edit: slight rewording to point 4, updated edit header

Certainly an interesting idea.  I look forward to seeing the algorithm choice - please use something memory hard.

To clarify your usage of terminology, you say memory hard as requiring a lot of memory? Is this in reference to the CPU channel, or the GPU channel?

~Videlicet


Title: Re: [PRE-ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Coinshield Verification
Post by: BitSlapper on June 23, 2014, 04:13:24 AM
scrypt jane sucks  (need a lot of ram - high power usage)

Groestl algo seems to be a good choice for me or Qubit for example


Well it was a suggestion for the GPU mining algorithm not the CPU. Seemed like they already had an algorithm setup for the CPU.

Also ...more memory intensive is more ASIC resistant.

Groestl is really better for CPU miners to feel like they can compete with GPU miners and Qubit is really just more for CPU miners.

If you have more suggestions or reasons than just "it sucks" then please respond with them. 


Title: Re: [PRE-ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Coinshield Verification
Post by: gjhiggins on June 23, 2014, 04:54:30 AM
The purpose of Coinshield is not to be based on hype, but based on clarity and attention. Hype is the general fuel of [shit]coins.

The two sentences above are semantically vacuous. The phrase "based on clarity and attention" is meaningless. If that interpretation puzzles you, try: "farm fresh" and "investor assured", all three are classic examples of "hype", deceptive statements that to the casual glance appear coherent but which on deeper analysis reveal no commonly-understood semantics for that particular juxtaposition.

The fleshing out of the details of the target acquisition system reveals your use of the term [shit]coin to be unsupportable. There are no restrictions on the subject of the petitions, nor can there be without you risking unanswerable accusations of interference. You have no means of ascertaining in advance which coins will be targeted nor is the selection under your control, so your use of [shit]coin is unsupported. The most accurate term available to you is "successfully petitioned", the next most accurate term is "possibly [shit]coin". We remain crucially unenlightened about your interpretation of the meaning of the term [shit]coin, a gloom that merely deepens in the presence of "based on clarity and attention".

It's not going to improve your communication if you continue using the term [shit]coin when you're unable to allow the reader an opportunity to check their understanding against yours.

Given your statement "Hype is the general fuel of [shit]coins" and your use of the phrase "based on clarity and attention", a clear match with other phrases categorized as "hype", would you conclude that CoinShield meets your definition of a [shit]coin and if not, why not?

My directness is pursuant to brevity, I'm under too much time pressure to ensure a moderate tone throughout, no offence meant, not personal.

Cheers

Graham


Title: Re: [PRE-ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Destroyer | Coinshield Verification
Post by: Nxtblg on June 23, 2014, 03:13:28 PM
A very intriguing concept!

Just one flaw I can think of: if CoinShield takes off, the usual suspects will change their 'business model' to deliberately creating crapcoins to dump on Coinshield. Back in the days of J.D. Rockefeller, old J.D. had the idea of monopolizing the refinery sector by buying out Standard competitors at a premium. One joker saw that he could build refineries and make a quick profit by selling into Standard's open offer. Reportedly he built three before J.P found out.

Videlicet and I have discussed this very scenario and came up with a way to prevent this from happening. The systems trade algorithm will prevent shitcoins from purposely dumping on us. I'll have Videlicet explain the details behind his code when he takes a breather from his coding session.
Thank you
~KryptoKash

This could work - but the only way to "prevent" is not by eliminating possibility, but by making the profits of such a scheme minimized. The way this can be done, would be through the channels. Let us say that coin X is verified by Coinshield Community, and coin Y clones it. Coin Y will have an exchange channel opened, because coin X community noticed the forgery. Coin Y having been newly launched will not have much value in the Coinshield Channels [because it is a case of forgery, and has no longevity as a coin]. This will deter such acts, for in order for anyone to make any sort of money with such a scheme, they would need to make an innovative coin [in order to survive forgery scrutiny, build a value, then destroy with profits]. This is the expense for profits, for why would anyone spend time to innovate just to petition their own destruction? [let alone be able to convince the community that this innovation needs to die].

As a community we can work together to create an environment of decency, respect, and quality.

EDIT: slight restructuring / rewording after last proofread

~Videlicet

Of course, J.D. Rockefeller's "algorithm" was much simpler: pay a premium, because otherwise the competitors he wanted to buy from wouldn't sell their refineries. And of course, that algo (if you will) had the fatal flaw of encouraging jokers to build refineries solely for the sake of selling them. That's why he gave up, called his premiums "blackmail," and went back to keeping Standard's margins low in the hopes that cost saving would do for Standard what his masterly plan totally flopped at. :)

Speaking of low margins, antitrust back in tha day actually made big companies culpable for charging too low a price. Alcoa was nailed for doing precisely that in the 1940s. I'm quite serious.

That model of antitrust sort-of reached the joke phase in the late 1970s because of something the Johnson Administration's Justice Department did on the last day of Lyndon Johnson's Presidency. They sued IBM for monopolizing the computer industry...

...Fast forward ten years, or 1979 when the Apple II was the iPhone of the time, when the case was still pending:

Fanboi #1: "Did you know that IBM is being sued by the Justice department?"
Fanboi #2 - interested: "Oh yeah? For what?"
Fanboi #1, with big fanboi grin: "For monopolizing the computer market!"
Fanboi #2: "Fuuck! No wonder things are so fucked up there!"

Yep, that was the early computer geeks' exact introduction to the wonderful world of antitrust law - before the reforms undertook by the Reagan Administration.

No wonder the old socialist Leonard Silk called capitalism "the moving target" ;)

But that said, people you look down on are often smarter than you think. I might suggest running your plans by a good economist or two.:)


Title: Re: [PRE-ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Coinshield Verification
Post by: BitSlapper on June 23, 2014, 03:20:06 PM
The purpose of Coinshield is not to be based on hype, but based on clarity and attention. Hype is the general fuel of [shit]coins.

The two sentences above are semantically vacuous. The phrase "based on clarity and attention" is meaningless. If that interpretation puzzles you, try: "farm fresh" and "investor assured", all three are classic examples of "hype", deceptive statements that to the casual glance appear coherent but which on deeper analysis reveal no commonly-understood semantics for that particular juxtaposition.

The fleshing out of the details of the target acquisition system reveals your use of the term [shit]coin to be unsupportable. There are no restrictions on the subject of the petitions, nor can there be without you risking unanswerable accusations of interference. You have no means of ascertaining in advance which coins will be targeted nor is the selection under your control, so your use of [shit]coin is unsupported. The most accurate term available to you is "successfully petitioned", the next most accurate term is "possibly [shit]coin". We remain crucially unenlightened about your interpretation of the meaning of the term [shit]coin, a gloom that merely deepens in the presence of "based on clarity and attention".

It's not going to improve your communication if you continue using the term [shit]coin when you're unable to allow the reader an opportunity to check their understanding against yours.

Given your statement "Hype is the general fuel of [shit]coins" and your use of the phrase "based on clarity and attention", a clear match with other phrases categorized as "hype", would you conclude that CoinShield meets your definition of a [shit]coin and if not, why not?

My directness is pursuant to brevity, I'm under too much time pressure to ensure a moderate tone throughout, no offence meant, not personal.

Cheers

Graham


Someone used their thesaurus today ;), jk.


Graham makes a great point.

I like the idea of the community voting as to which coin is actually targeted. However, without predetermined parameters as to what a [shit]coin actually is then anyone with a grudge against a certain coin can just submit a petition based on nothing but personal opinion. If they in turn get enough friends/followers to help promote their petition then you have a potential for a perfectly valid coin being labeled as a [shit]coin.

A great compromise to the issue is to let the community put together suggestions as to what a [shit]coin actually is before Coin Shield is launched. The suggestions that are agreed upon most by all users are then the base for determining what a [shit]coin is from that point, so there can be some protection from abusing the system.

Some suggestions might be:

1. A coin is an exact copy of another, besides name.
2. The coin changed only simple things such as block reward count and block time.

After the parameters are defined and agreed upon then a Thread on the Coin Shield forums can be setup as guidelines for submitting a valid petition.





Title: Re: [PRE-ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Coinshield Verification
Post by: KryptoKash on June 23, 2014, 04:50:38 PM
Give us more suggestions on what you define a shitcoin to be. So far we have 2 suggestions from BitSlapper:

1. A coin is an exact copy of another, besides name.
2. The coin changed only simple things such as block reward count and block time.

Anyone else care to share?  After reviewing them, we will add them to the petition guidelines.


Title: Re: [PRE-ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Coinshield Verification
Post by: stormia on June 24, 2014, 01:10:28 AM
How will abuse of the petition and voting system be prevented (how are bots/sockpuppets prevented from voting for example)?


Title: Re: [PRE-ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Coinshield Verification
Post by: KryptoKash on June 24, 2014, 01:24:37 AM
How will abuse of the petition and voting system be prevented (how are bots/sockpuppets prevented from voting for example)?
Good question. We decided on the following spam filters to prevent abuse (we are modeling it after Mintpal):
We will require a login, Signup requires email confirmation.
Only 6 votes per hour.
We will be implementing certain bot detection checkpoints.I can't  list them, I wouldn't want anyone to find them and attempt to bypass them.
In addition to all this we are considering checking the users latest forum activity. If no posts were made within the last X days the system would not allow that user to vote. -Do you agree with this check? If so what should the X be?

These are not set in stone yet, let us know if you agree with them or what we should change.

EDIT: The above was for the voting system as for the petition system we are asking the community to define what is a shitcoin. We will add some of the answers to the guidelines for submitting a petition to our system. I am also considering only users with X posts can comment, vote and see the petition section, however I am not sure. What do you think?


Title: Re: [PRE-ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Coinshield Verification
Post by: Cashmenwa on June 24, 2014, 03:36:19 AM
Good idea men
We need more like this coin
Not other shit coin
keep eye on it


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Multi-Channel | POW+POS |CSD Verification
Post by: blackhatzw on June 24, 2014, 05:41:17 AM
What's the usage of this coin? Any innovation of this coin?


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Multi-Channel | POW+POS |CSD Verification
Post by: KryptoKash on June 24, 2014, 06:15:52 AM
What's the usage of this coin? Any innovation of this coin?

The usage of this coin is outlined in the OP. A great deal of discussion about this coin and its functionality can be found within the first few pages of this thread. If you have any specific questions or suggestions please don't hesitate to let us know. 
Thank you

~KryptoKash


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Multi-Channel | POW+POS |CSD Verification
Post by: IMJim on June 24, 2014, 10:25:41 PM
This is something I have been pondering since this coin was announced.  Is this really going to help the crypto community?  I mean, how is one to be the deciding factor of what coins out there are destroyed?  This talks about killing communities and work that others have done, essentially crushing businesses that other developers and their communities have built.

I get there is a lot of garbage out there that needs to die off, but who should decide that?!  Somebody has to lose for this coin and it's community to gain.  I'll admit the theory behind all of this is quite intriguing, but I guess it almost seems like a god like thing to be able to judge who lives and who dies.


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Multi-Channel | POW+POS |CSD Verification
Post by: KryptoKash on June 24, 2014, 10:58:42 PM
This is something I have been pondering since this coin was announced.  Is this really going to help the crypto community?  I mean, how is one to be the deciding factor of what coins out there are destroyed?  This talks about killing communities and work that others have done, essentially crushing businesses that other developers and their communities have built.

I get there is a lot of garbage out there that needs to die off, but who should decide that?!  Somebody has to lose for this coin and it's community to gain.  I'll admit the theory behind all of this is quite intriguing, but I guess it almost seems like a god like thing to be able to judge who lives and who dies.

We are creating Coinshield (just the coin itself) to have many features not found elsewhere. Our coin is not simply a copy and paste coin. In the next few days we list all the features in the OP. No one has to  lose for this coin to gain.

We included the option for the community to destroy coins using us as a platform(if they choose to). Coinshield could essentially never kill a coin (if no one petitions and votes). Also, we are protecting the hard work and communities of multiple coins via our Coinshield Verification program (see op for more on this). Most shitcoins are copy and paste coins, or the coin dev. changed only simple things such as block reward count and block time. In both cases no hard work was put into them. Now as for our system, it is set up in a way so no one person is the deciding factor. We require petitions to gain support, and even then the coin needs to win the majority of the community vote in order to begin the process.


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Multi-Channel | POW+POS |CSD Verification
Post by: gjhiggins on June 24, 2014, 11:25:03 PM
The dev's simply hit copy, paste, and renamed it.

Incorrect as stated, as I hope you must know. Obviously-gratuitous hyperbole serves only to diminish the cogency of your argument and in this case, given that you have invited people to state their opinion, sails dangerously close to being insulting to those who made the effort to do so.

Cheers,

Graham


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Multi-Channel | POW+POS |CSD Verification
Post by: KryptoKash on June 24, 2014, 11:31:35 PM
I was using one of the suggestion that was given:
"1. A coin is an exact copy of another, besides name."
I will edit the above post to include both suggestions.

EDIT:
If anyone else wants to define what a shitcoin is please post.


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Multi-Channel | POW+POS |CSD Verification
Post by: gjhiggins on June 25, 2014, 04:00:52 AM
I was using one of the suggestion that was given:
"1. A coin is an exact copy of another, besides name."

Have it your way, it's your funeral; garbage in, garbage out. It was either an obvious troll or from a naif.

If anyone else wants to define what a shitcoin is please post.

No-one can produce a recognisably satisfactory definition of [shit]coin because there isn't one to be derived, just as there's no derivable definition for Art.

This isn't a technological issue, it's an epistemological one. Membership of the category that you label [shit]coin does not admit of either an intensional or an extensional definition but only of an ostensive definition (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostensive_definition). The wikipedia entry will tell you all you need to know. The deliberately heavy-handed humour used to lace the OP text may well have created a context for quasi-ostension, exacerbating the problem.

No-one was ever going to able to produce an intensional definition of [shit]coin and by prodding you hard in this soft area, I hoped to make you think a lot harder about what you're planning to do. The one thing that can be pretty much guaranteed about an ostensive definition is that the process is inherently strongly social, I was hoping you would eventually arrive at that insight. Unfortunately, the tech community is by and large painfully innocent of how much additional grief they incur from the proudly-held ignorance of the tools developed by the much-sneered-at "soft sciences" and this is a classic example.

Fortunately, there's an exit, a re-framing of the process to invert the control, allow coins to petition to be rescued. The petitioners are making the categorisation and if the CoinShield process works as expected, investors will press for petitions to be opened, there will be competition to get a petition accepted, arguments will be more focused and effective, voting will become a popular contributive activity. And when CoinShield later subtly repositions itself to become the first to offer insurance to altcoin operators, no-one will be in the least bit surprised.

Cheers

Graham


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Multi-Channel | POW+POS |CSD Verification
Post by: Videlicet on June 25, 2014, 04:58:50 AM

Graham,

I am in complete agreement with your notion of an "ostensive definition" being the only probable way to convey the meaning of [shit]coin.
I will ponder this.

~Videlicet


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Multi-Channel | POW+POS |CSD Verification
Post by: Bitcoinasourus on June 25, 2014, 05:22:34 AM
I like the idea of this coin.

We really don't need half of the coins out there. The nomination idea, is similar to how many DDOS groups operate.

I have some hash rate i'll put in for this.

I am up in the air about algo though. I like GRS because my equipment runs cooler. But having some scrypt asics on board would sure help to kill small hasrate coins. Or am I misunderstanding how the "kill" process will work?

is the plan to mine and dump or fork the block chain?


The nomination process doesn't interest me as much. Just put it to a vote. You could even make people pay with coin to vote so the system doesn't get abused.


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Multi-Channel | POW+POS |CSD Verification
Post by: gjhiggins on June 25, 2014, 06:00:24 AM
We really don't need half of the coins out there.

Do you have any reliable numbers to allow you to reach that conclusion? I'd be most interested if you could share them.

Cheers,

Graham



Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Multi-Channel | POW+POS |CSD Verification
Post by: dreamboy on June 25, 2014, 07:53:04 AM
New coin new Channels.


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Multi-Channel | POW+POS |CSD Verification
Post by: kaliostro on June 25, 2014, 08:02:08 AM
Another DELETECOIN https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=511880.0, SCAM


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Multi-Channel | POW+POS |CSD Verification
Post by: Amph on June 25, 2014, 08:04:32 AM
Another DELETECOIN https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=511880.0, SCAM

delete coin shield


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Multi-Channel | POW+POS |CSD Verification
Post by: kaliostro on June 25, 2014, 08:08:39 AM
Another DELETECOIN https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=511880.0, SCAM

delete coin shield
little change and this is a new coin, was Deletecoin --- became Coin Shield,  how it hard!!! ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Multi-Channel | POW+POS |CSD Verification
Post by: KryptoKash on June 25, 2014, 02:50:04 PM
little change and this is a new coin, was Deletecoin --- became Coin Shield,  how it hard!!! ;D
I'm not sure what Deletecoins full specs are as their site is down. Coinshield will have multiple mining algorithms (CPU+GPU). It will be POW+POS. It will have its own mining algorithms. It will have its own difficulty retargeting algorithm. Coinshield offers to protect the hard work of developers via it's Coinshield Verification process (see op for more info). These are just some of the new features that were created for this coin. All will be listed prior to launch.

I like the idea of this coin.

We really don't need half of the coins out there. The nomination idea, is similar to how many DDOS groups operate.

I have some hash rate i'll put in for this.

I am up in the air about algo though. I like GRS because my equipment runs cooler. But having some scrypt asics on board would sure help to kill small hasrate coins. Or am I misunderstanding how the "kill" process will work?

is the plan to mine and dump or fork the block chain?


The nomination process doesn't interest me as much. Just put it to a vote. You could even make people pay with coin to vote so the system doesn't get abused.
Thank you for your input on the algorithm, I will pass it over to Videlicet. When the community chooses to use the kill feature of coinshield, it will work as follows:
1. Community passes a petition.
2. Coin is then added to voting.
3. The coin with the most votes gets a trade channel to open.
4. Via the trade channel, Coinshield is exchanged for that coin.
5. The coin is then automatically sold.
6. BTC generated from the sale is then used to build buy walls.

This will effectively keep the value of a coin to a minimal. Coinshield will not only kill its economy, it absorbs it.

As for the voting abuse we posted this earlier:
Good question. We decided on the following spam filters to prevent abuse (we are modeling it after Mintpal):
We will require a login, Signup requires email confirmation.
Only 6 votes per hour.
We will be implementing certain bot detection checkpoints.I can't  list them, I wouldn't want anyone to find them and attempt to bypass them.
In addition to all this we are considering checking the users latest forum activity. If no posts were made within the last X days the system would not allow that user to vote. -Do you agree with this check?
What do you feel X should be in the voting check above? Also, If we got rid of the petition process (as you suggested) who would decide what coins are added to the voting system?




Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Multi-Channel | POW+POS |CSD Verification
Post by: komdo on June 25, 2014, 03:03:21 PM
copy paste of MASTCOIN, the Coin Recycler, the latest innovation from the MAST team (public beta) ;D :o ::)

http://recycle.mastiffcoin.com/ -public beta working
http://mastcoin.co/vote - vote coin to recycl


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Multi-Channel | POW+POS |CSD Verification
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on June 25, 2014, 03:09:28 PM
This is just a what if, what if someone watches your voting and moves in advance of your action. Like buying all the coins on the market. Then selling them off for a premi?


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Multi-Channel | POW+POS |CSD Verification
Post by: KryptoKash on June 25, 2014, 03:42:49 PM
This is just a what if, what if someone watches your voting and moves in advance of your action. Like buying all the coins on the market. Then selling them off for a premi?
Our exchange algorithm will prevent that. Coinshield trade channels will use a highly advanced trade algorithm. It will take into account several factors, including value of both coins and the current buy orders of the shitcoin, as well as how many of the total supply we have already traded in and dumped. As we dump more of the coin it will decrease in value and the BTC that is generated will be automatically used to build buy walls (increase CSD value) which in turn will cause future trade in offers/value to be lower then the ones prior. If someone bought all the coins on the market our trade algorithm would not accept so many coins in 1 transaction, allowing it to offer a new trade (lower) price for the next transaction. So while they make some profit they will lose overall, and the coinshield community will win via the buy walls that were created from someone attempting such a scheme. The community will win as well (one less shitcoin).


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Multi-Channel | POW+POS |CSD Verification
Post by: KryptoKash on June 25, 2014, 03:47:09 PM
copy paste of MASTCOIN, the Coin Recycler, the latest innovation from the MAST team (public beta) ;D :o ::)

http://recycle.mastiffcoin.com/ -public beta working
http://mastcoin.co/vote - vote coin to recycl

As mentioned above:
Coinshield will have multiple mining algorithms (CPU+GPU). It will be POW+POS. It will have its own mining algorithms. It will have its own difficulty retargeting algorithm. Coinshield offers to protect the hard work of developers via it's Coinshield Verification process (see op for more info). These are just some of the new features that were created for this coin. All will be listed prior to launch.
Far from a copy and paste coin.

 
Edit: As for our shitcoin system, its purpose is to kill shitcoins. Mastiff's coin recycle system is an anonymous transaction mechanism, which allows you to convert any coin to MAST from your wallet or on the website. This has nothing to do with absorbing economies, or protecting certain (depending on how the community votes) coins source code (see Coinshield Verification in OP for more info).


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Multi-Channel | POW+POS |CSD Verification
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on June 25, 2014, 05:16:35 PM
I am all for taking down shit coins as you call them, I just hope no one figure out your algo's or your screwed.


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Multi-Channel | POW+POS |CSD Verification
Post by: TheMightyX on June 25, 2014, 10:11:03 PM
This community can be so depressing at times.

This entire scheme is inherently flawed and anyone who actually took the time to read the concept and understand it would see that.

Should I really dissect your whole plan? I don't want to spend all that time so I'll just point out one major flaw.

You can't "kill" a coin, you can only let it die on its own. If you take action against a shitcoin, you will only end up inadvertently helping it.

Case in point:
Quote
→Shitcoin sux, you tell the world it sux, its price starts declining because of your magical super powers.
→People start selling you their Shitcoin, you destroy shitcoin. As you destroy more of that shitcoin, you are increasing its scarcity.
→Shitcoin isn't worth much when there is 100,000,000 of them... but after you destroy 50% of its money supply it then becomes a hell of a lot scarcer, and consequently a hell of a lot more valuable.

More so, many shitcoins are PoW. Even if you destroyed 100% of the available market supply, there are more coins coming out every day. By reducing the market supply, all you are doing is making them more valuable. This in turn has the opposite effect of killing them, in fact it makes them even more sought after.

The only thing you can do to truly kill shitcoins is to educate the people, something not so easily done as can be seen by America's senate, republicans, theists and America in general.


This plan was not properly thought out.
As you are continually adding more coins to your own market supply the only shitcoin decreasing in value will be your own
.



Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Multi-Channel | POW+POS |CSD Verification
Post by: KryptoKash on June 25, 2014, 10:25:08 PM
This community can be so depressing at times.

This entire scheme is inherently flawed and anyone who actually took the time to read the concept and understand it would see that.

Should I really dissect your whole plan? I don't want to spend all that time so I'll just point out one major flaw.

You can't "kill" a coin, you can only let it die on its own. If you take action against a shitcoin, you will only end up inadvertently helping it.

Case in point:
Quote
→Shitcoin sux, you tell the world it sux, its price starts declining because of your magical super powers.
→People start selling you their Shitcoin, you destroy shitcoin. As you destroy more of that shitcoin, you are increasing its scarcity.
→Shitcoin isn't worth much when there is 100,000,000 of them... but after you destroy 50% of its money supply it then becomes a hell of a lot scarcer, and consequently a hell of a lot more valuable.

More so, many shitcoins are PoW. Even if you destroyed 100% of the available market supply, there are more coins coming out every day. By reducing the market supply, all you are doing is making them more valuable. This in turn has the opposite effect of killing them, in fact it makes them even more sought after.

The only thing you can do to truly kill shitcoins is to educate the people, something not so easily done as can be seen by America's senate, republicans, theists and America in general.


This plan was not properly thought out.
As you are continually adding more coins to your own market supply the only shitcoin decreasing in value will be your own
.



In our OP we state: Destroying a coin in the following context means to reduce the coins value to a minimum, and keep it there.

As for creating scarcity and increasing the value of that coin you are correct. If coins were remove from circulation that is exactly what would happen. This is why Coinshield does not do that. As mentioned a few posts above this is how the system works:
Thank you for your input on the algorithm, I will pass it over to Videlicet. When the community chooses to use the kill feature of coinshield, it will work as follows:
1. Community passes a petition.
2. Coin is then added to voting.
3. The coin with the most votes gets a trade channel to open.
4. Via the trade channel, Coinshield is exchanged for that coin.
5. The coin is then automatically sold.
6. BTC generated from the sale is then used to build buy walls.


This will effectively keep the value of a coin to a minimal. Coinshield will not only kill its economy, it absorbs it.

This process will prevent the shitcoin from ever gaining value.


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Multi-Channel | POW+POS |CSD Verification
Post by: BitSlapper on June 25, 2014, 10:46:02 PM
This community can be so depressing at times.

This entire scheme is inherently flawed and anyone who actually took the time to read the concept and understand it would see that.

Should I really dissect your whole plan? I don't want to spend all that time so I'll just point out one major flaw.

You can't "kill" a coin, you can only let it die on its own. If you take action against a shitcoin, you will only end up inadvertently helping it.

Case in point:
Quote
→Shitcoin sux, you tell the world it sux, its price starts declining because of your magical super powers.
→People start selling you their Shitcoin, you destroy shitcoin. As you destroy more of that shitcoin, you are increasing its scarcity.
→Shitcoin isn't worth much when there is 100,000,000 of them... but after you destroy 50% of its money supply it then becomes a hell of a lot scarcer, and consequently a hell of a lot more valuable.

More so, many shitcoins are PoW. Even if you destroyed 100% of the available market supply, there are more coins coming out every day. By reducing the market supply, all you are doing is making them more valuable. This in turn has the opposite effect of killing them, in fact it makes them even more sought after.

The only thing you can do to truly kill shitcoins is to educate the people, something not so easily done as can be seen by America's senate, republicans, theists and America in general.


This plan was not properly thought out.
As you are continually adding more coins to your own market supply the only shitcoin decreasing in value will be your own
.



Your either a Troll, didn't bother to read how they plan to "destroy" or devalue the coin, or your just stupid.

The fact that you reference Republicans as being uneducated is laughable. I hate both republicans and democrats but neither are uneducated. Calling Bush or Obama dumb makes you look dumb. They know exactly what they are doing, helping themselves not America.

Now go back to your troll cave or better yet take two minutes and actually bother to read everything about the coin before posting FUD.


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Multi-Channel | POW+POS |CSD Verification
Post by: Videlicet on June 26, 2014, 09:23:30 PM
To [The People],

Due to all the wonderful suggestions on this thread, I have decided to put the extra effort in to develop our own CPU/GPU algorithms. As I have been searching through all the possibilities, I am leaning towards a hybrid hash/scientific pow to maintain security. This has led me to larger numbers [256 bits just didn't satisfy my curiosity], so I wrote a class [uint512] to support 512 bit hashes [ported from Satoshi's uint256 class].

This will increase network security [512 bit hashing is more secure], and also allow us as a network to do calculations on numbers [that will fill half a page], which is more viable to me as scientific POW [I formulated this conclusion from my own desire to study the patterns we will discover].

Now, here is the other [part]. I am human, and as such require more time to complete this task [unfortunately have not transcended this limitation as of yet]. This would bring me to state that [Coinshield Launch will be Extended to 7/8/2014 at 12:00 PDT]. This does mean however, that any pool operators, or anyone interested in [helping], will be able to use a testnet I setup before launch [to report to me any issues]. This hopefully will help strike more community involvement in the development of Coinshield, so that we can adhere [as close as possible] to the community's desires.

Respectfully,
~Videlicet


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Multi-Channel | POW+POS |CSD Verification
Post by: gjhiggins on June 27, 2014, 12:35:08 AM
I wrote a class [uint512] to support 512 bit hashes [ported from Satoshi's uint256 class].

Unless there's something special about your uint512 implementation that you haven't described above, you could have saved some effort by merely using the existing implementation adopted by many altcoins.

Selecting a couple at random from dozens of potential examples:

https://github.com/qubitcoin/QubitCoin/blob/master/src/uint256.h#L647

https://github.com/dmcoin/diamondcoin/blob/master/src/uint256.h#L647

I've not checked all the denizens of the SHA-3 Zoo (http://ehash.iaik.tugraz.at/wiki/The_SHA-3_Zoo) but I'm reasonably confident that all of the NIST candidates offer 512 bit functions because that was part of the competition spec.

I'll hazard a guess that all of the chained-hashalgo altcoins use 512-bit hash algos. QubitCoin uses 512bit hashes in its 5-link chain and the same is true of both Chaincoin's C11 and Darkcoin's x11 11-link chains. All of the x* chained algo series use 512bit hash functions. For those looking to the future with trepidation, we can get to about x20 before really starting to scrape the barrel)

I see a very healthy diversity of pow algo usage:

http://i.imgur.com/p7aiwIv.jpg

(note, log2 scale for presentation purposes)

Cheers,

Graham



Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Multi-Channel | POW+POS |CSD Verification
Post by: Videlicet on June 27, 2014, 01:25:08 AM
Graham,

You are correct [I did not catch this, as I have had my head in my code, working it around with my own logic]. I guess I reinvented the wheel for porting this class [uint512], but also, saw other locations it needed implementation [that other coins failed to address].

1. CBigNum class: needed extra implementation to work with [uint512]
2. CBlockHeader class: to store hashblock/hashprevblock as [uint512], not [uint256] to make actual use of a 512 bit hash

With other coins that use 512 bit hashing, you'll notice in their Hash template, it is always returned as [uint256] from the examples I have seen. This in my logic, makes use of 512 bit hashing superfluous [if only 256 bits can be stored].

~Videlicet


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Multi-Channel | POW+POS |CSD Verification
Post by: bigreddmachine on June 27, 2014, 02:02:27 AM

I see a very healthy diversity of pow algo usage:

leaving picture out for less noise in board

Cheers,

Graham



Can you explain a little more what we're looking at?


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Multi-Channel | POW+POS |CSD Verification
Post by: gatra on June 27, 2014, 02:11:52 AM
I see a very healthy diversity of pow algo usage:

[img edited]

(note, log2 scale for presentation purposes)

nice chart! could you please tell us the source of your data? is it number of altcoins you are comparing?
glad to see prime constellations is at least mentioned


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Multi-Channel | POW+POS |CSD Verification
Post by: frankkkkkkk on June 27, 2014, 02:13:46 AM
i am waiting


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Multi-Channel | POW+POS |CSD Verification
Post by: gatra on June 27, 2014, 02:24:10 AM
Fortunately, there's an exit, a re-framing of the process to invert the control, allow coins to petition to be rescued. The petitioners are making the categorisation and if the CoinShield process works as expected, investors will press for petitions to be opened, there will be competition to get a petition accepted, arguments will be more focused and effective, voting will become a popular contributive activity. And when CoinShield later subtly repositions itself to become the first to offer insurance to altcoin operators, no-one will be in the least bit surprised.

I'm thinking devs would create shitcoins just to get rescued, something like insurance fraud...
still, a very interesting idea


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Multi-Channel | POW+POS |CSD Verification
Post by: snakegi on June 27, 2014, 02:37:18 AM
Fortunately, there's an exit, a re-framing of the process to invert the control, allow coins to petition to be rescued. The petitioners are making the categorisation and if the CoinShield process works as expected, investors will press for petitions to be opened, there will be competition to get a petition accepted, arguments will be more focused and effective, voting will become a popular contributive activity. And when CoinShield later subtly repositions itself to become the first to offer insurance to altcoin operators, no-one will be in the least bit surprised.

I'm thinking devs would create shitcoins just to get rescued, something like insurance fraud...
still, a very interesting idea

If Coinshield succeeds (and becomes a standard, )security seal or something like that, probably the new shitcoins will never have any value, or really low value to be rescued. So won't worth the work to create/market a shitcoin. But it could lead to more elaborated scams...

I think this is a great idea, but will only work if more people get in and support.


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Multi-Channel | POW+POS |CSD Verification
Post by: KryptoKash on June 27, 2014, 02:44:03 AM
Fortunately, there's an exit, a re-framing of the process to invert the control, allow coins to petition to be rescued. The petitioners are making the categorisation and if the CoinShield process works as expected, investors will press for petitions to be opened, there will be competition to get a petition accepted, arguments will be more focused and effective, voting will become a popular contributive activity. And when CoinShield later subtly repositions itself to become the first to offer insurance to altcoin operators, no-one will be in the least bit surprised.

I'm thinking devs would create shitcoins just to get rescued, something like insurance fraud...
still, a very interesting idea

If Coinshield succeeds (and becomes a standard, )security seal or something like that, probably the new shitcoins will never have any value, or really low value to be rescued. So won't worth the work to create/market a shitcoin. But it could lead to more elaborated scams...

I think this is a great idea, but will only work if more people get in and support.

Quote from Videlicet about this very topic:


This could work - but the only way to "prevent" is not by eliminating possibility, but by making the profits of such a scheme minimized. The way this can be done, would be through the channels. Let us say that coin X is verified by Coinshield Community, and coin Y clones it. Coin Y will have an exchange channel opened, because coin X community noticed the forgery. Coin Y having been newly launched will not have much value in the Coinshield Channels [because it is a case of forgery, and has no longevity as a coin]. This will deter such acts, for in order for anyone to make any sort of money with such a scheme, they would need to make an innovative coin [in order to survive forgery scrutiny, build a value, then destroy with profits]. This is the expense for profits, for why would anyone spend time to innovate just to petition their own destruction? [let alone be able to convince the community that this innovation needs to die].

As a community we can work together to create an environment of decency, respect, and quality.

EDIT: slight restructuring / rewording after last proofread

~Videlicet


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Multi-Channel | POW+POS |CSD Verification
Post by: gjhiggins on June 27, 2014, 06:18:42 AM
Can you explain a little more what we're looking at?

Sorry, I snipped the legend to save space, wasn't thinking.

The graph shows, in essence, algo popularity and is generated from a database of altcoin metadata, going back to 2009, covering 1260-odd altcoins, post-processed to ensure coverage of a few key attributes.

The compilation was guided by inherently informal concerns and inclusions were only very loosely constrained. If there's a bitcointalk thread, a logo and an algo then it's probably been included unless it was a purely hypothetical concept. The data is not 100% accurate but then again, neither are [ANN] details and sometimes that's all there is; garbage in, garbage out - unavoidable.

As a tour d'horizon, it's not intended to be a precise tool and there's some other stuff to go with it that partly makes up for that:

http://github.com/DOACC

Description of a Cryptocurrency (DOACC) is an OWL ontology for cryptocurrency, following the FOSS communities' lead with DOAP (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOAP).

Collaborators welcome.

Cheers,

Graham


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Multi-Channel | POW+POS |CSD Verification
Post by: Spratan on June 27, 2014, 09:05:04 AM
You should do the exact opposite, buy every new coin, except blatant scam !

You would have lost money 1000 times (at worst) but you would have automatically earned more than 100X on 100 coins. At least 2000X on NxT, 300X on DRK...
It is the most effective and timeless strategy (no need to read OP, just buy, no day-trading).
Do your math !!







Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Multi-Channel | POW+POS |CSD Verification
Post by: SnjafSnjaf on June 27, 2014, 10:00:24 AM
It looks like the best way to kill the coin is just to buy it into mintpal, greatest coin killer of them all...   


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Multi-Channel | POW+POS |CSD Verification
Post by: gjhiggins on June 27, 2014, 02:04:23 PM
You are correct [I did not catch this, as I have had my head in my code, working it around with my own logic]. I guess I reinvented the wheel for porting this class [uint512], but also, saw other locations it needed implementation [that other coins failed to address].

1. CBigNum class: needed extra implementation to work with [uint512]
2. CBlockHeader class: to store hashblock/hashprevblock as [uint512], not [uint256] to make actual use of a 512 bit hash

Good catch, that's a useful observation.

Quote
With other coins that use 512 bit hashing, you'll notice in their Hash template, it is always returned as [uint256] from the examples I have seen. This in my logic, makes use of 512 bit hashing superfluous [if only 256 bits can be stored].

Hahaha. Thanks for drawing my attention to this. I think you're absolutely spot-on about the superfluity of 512 bits in respect of enhanced security, how hilarious.

There's a teensy bit of wriggle room available to whoever was the first to use a 512bit implementation for altcoin PoW ...

IIRC, a few of the SHA3-Zoo denizens claim better performance of their 512-bit implementation over their 256-bit implementation. It's quite possible that all of the NIST candidates were anticipating a general move to 512 (especially if primed to do so by NIST, I'll have to check on that) and directed their optimization efforts accordingly.

Your observation attests to your familiarity with working in a strongly-typed language. I must admit that I had registered the discrepancy but failed to draw the obvious conclusion. Instead, I recall thinking to myself: “Nah, that'd be too big a hole for everyone to miss. Must have the wrong end of the stick.” Had I more familiarity with the practicalities of programming in strongly-typed languages, I might saved myself from that error.

Ah well, I shall just have to junk my hyper-secure, extra-strength, extreme hard-core Skein 1024-bit implementation and return to the drafting table :) Not  a wasted effort though, it allows me to appreciate fully the implications of your observation. I gotta find out whether there's unimpeachable support for this obvious conclusion or whether there's some subtle haha-its-crypto gotcha that muddies what's otherwise an apparently clear view.

Cheers,

Graham


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Multi-Channel | POW+POS |CSD Verification
Post by: gjhiggins on June 27, 2014, 02:21:03 PM
nice chart! could you please tell us the source of your data? is it number of altcoins you are comparing?

Thanks for the kind words. Yes, it is the number of altcoins that have chosen each algo. The data is collated from extensive cross-referencing of various lists that have been published over the last couple of years.

My motivation for posting is to provide discussants with some hard-ish figures. My motivation for collating the dataset stems from a pursuit of transparency. The full dataset will be published under an Open Data licence but you'll have to hold your horses for a few days while the work is completed.

glad to see prime constellations is at least mentioned

I was nearly severely wrong-footed by failing to detect the (rather large) degree of difference between yer bog-standard altcoin fork and the huge amount of work that you have put into Reicoin. fwiw, I'm very impressed with your migration to Bitcoin Core 0.9; that's a stand-out piece of work and an inspired tactical move.

Cheers,

Graham

(sorry for the delay in responding, intertubes here got bunged up for a few hours)


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Multi-Channel | POW+POS |CSD Verification
Post by: foodies123 on June 27, 2014, 10:23:19 PM
I like the concept (mainly because I'm a dev for an innovative coin) but something like this could go very wrong in many ways, mainly because it could and probably will be used as a blackmailing tool. Another scenario devs should be very carefull about is attacking scam/gimmick copy cat coins with big communities behind them because those coins will easily manipulate the voting results through sheer numbers ... just saying.


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Multi-Channel | POW+POS |CSD Verification
Post by: KryptoKash on June 28, 2014, 12:49:25 AM
I like the concept (mainly because I'm a dev for an innovative coin) but something like this could go very wrong in many ways, mainly because it could and probably will be used as a blackmailing tool. Another scenario devs should be very carefull about is attacking scam/gimmick copy cat coins with big communities behind them because those coins will easily manipulate the voting results through sheer numbers ... just saying.
All innovative coins can receive Coinshield Verification. Once verification is given the coin is immune from destruction, and through that it is protected against forgery; this will prevent Coinshield Verified coins from any risk of being blackmailed. By the way Coinshield will work, any future coins that clone a Coinshield Verified coin will have a trade channel opened upon verification of forgery. It will be difficult for anybody attempting that stragegy to have any sort of gains.


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Multi-Channel | POW+POS |CSD Verification
Post by: IMJim on June 28, 2014, 01:11:20 AM
nice chart! could you please tell us the source of your data? is it number of altcoins you are comparing?

Thanks for the kind words. Yes, it is the number of altcoins that have chosen each algo. The data is collated from extensive cross-referencing of various lists that have been published over the last couple of years.

My motivation for posting is to provide discussants with some hard-ish figures. My motivation for collating the dataset stems from a pursuit of transparency. The full dataset will be published under an Open Data licence but you'll have to hold your horses for a few days while the work is completed.

glad to see prime constellations is at least mentioned

I was nearly severely wrong-footed by failing to detect the (rather large) degree of difference between yer bog-standard altcoin fork and the huge amount of work that you have put into Reicoin. fwiw, I'm very impressed with your migration to Bitcoin Core 0.9; that's a stand-out piece of work and an inspired tactical move.

Cheers,

Graham

(sorry for the delay in responding, intertubes here got bunged up for a few hours)

Dude......you turned half of this page into complete gibberish to me.....I mean that in a good way btw:-)  I don't think I have seen a thread yet that I understood so little!  Really cool though to have a member of the community that can talk and understand this lingo with a dev who shares so much about the technical side of what he/she is working on!  I don't understand SHIT of what you guys are saying.........but yet, still cool to see and read!

I need to go rest my head now, for some reason it hurts a little ???


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Multi-Channel | POW+POS |CSD Verification
Post by: Videlicet on June 28, 2014, 02:42:16 AM
Graham,

The 512 bits for enhanced security only enhances when [512 bits] are stored in block [every other coin dev didn't take the time to restructure the code to make this possible]. I have spent a good part of today reprogramming the core of Coinshield to allow 512 bit hashing, and success [so far]!

a Coinshield merkle root:
2cc53ea5ff1712c11fb75127e39f975cf9fab950a4a804223f888ac496a1b6d3c65a4ca97c9b527 6f5d7c96be0407e58266f53d9c9c8be99d9a8467696b5a686

I implemented this in the merkle trees, block headers, cscripts, serialization templates, node signatures, block signing, pos checksum [well in fewer words, in all parts].

I think it is about time to phase out 256 bit hashing, I couldn't even write a reasonable miner with 256 bits [couldn't target numbers large enough]. I have implemented [uint1024] and [uint2048] for my own prime conjectures [to test new CPU algorithm], and am *thinking* on whether I should work on 1024 hashing algorithms [you said you have been working on one?]

~Videlicet


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Multi-Channel | POW+POS |CSD Verification
Post by: gjhiggins on June 28, 2014, 03:19:31 AM
The 512 bits for enhanced security only enhances when [512 bits] are stored in block [every other coin dev didn't take the time to restructure the code to make this possible]. I have spent a good part of today reprogramming the core of Coinshield to allow 512 bit hashing, and success [so far]!

I tip my hat to your thorough approach.

Quote
am *thinking* on whether I should work on 1024 hashing algorithms [you said you have been working on one?]

As far as I know, only the Skein family runs to 1024 bits, all the rest top out at 512. Probably not worth a special effort.

Cheers

Graham


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Multi-Channel | POW+POS |CSD Verification
Post by: Coinler on June 28, 2014, 03:51:20 AM
whatever u do. dont use coinshield on my coin. it will hurt your investors   :D


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Multi-Channel | POW+POS |CSD Verification
Post by: Videlicet on June 28, 2014, 05:18:41 AM
The 512 bits for enhanced security only enhances when [512 bits] are stored in block [every other coin dev didn't take the time to restructure the code to make this possible]. I have spent a good part of today reprogramming the core of Coinshield to allow 512 bit hashing, and success [so far]!

I tip my hat to your thorough approach.

Quote
am *thinking* on whether I should work on 1024 hashing algorithms [you said you have been working on one?]

As far as I know, only the Skein family runs to 1024 bits, all the rest top out at 512. Probably not worth a special effort.

Cheers

Graham


Thank You, Graham [I'll stick to 512 for now] ;)

whatever u do. dont use coinshield on my coin. it will hurt your investors   :D

This is not up to us [it is the community that decides what coin is to be destroyed or protected].

~Videlicet


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Multi-Channel | POW+POS |CSD Verification
Post by: coinsolidation on June 28, 2014, 11:50:19 AM
some observations.

  • by dumping the coin you create new bagholders, so new people have the coin and will need to either dump it, or make it rise again
  • people can already manually do this with any coin simply by selling it and using the proceeds to buy another coin
  • anybody could create a new coin and create a shitcoin/newcoin, newcoin/btc exchange
  • this is open to massive manipulation, if an entity wanted to acquire a huge amount of x-coin they could deem it shit, acquire it all at the lowest price, then make the coin unshit and execute a social 51% attack
  • any really shit coin already has zero value and zero orders, so it can't be dumped and turned in to coin shield
  • the model is centralized and trust based, trust you with most of the btc from each shitcoin
  • the idea of a well known service which immediately classifies new coins as clone or innovative would serve the purpose better, and prevent people from investing in new scams, rather than forcing them to commit to a loss and creating new bag holders
  • the countdown, the promise that early traders will make the most profit, the focus on acquiring btc, has all the hall marks of every shit coins produced, and does you no favours
  • the coin has no value of itself, no long term incentive, and will be deemed to be a shitcoin itself, with early adopters having guaranteed btc orders to dump in to once they reached their target profit margins
  • needlessly complex for such a simple proposition, these complexities don't add value, they detract

The thing you are trying to achieve is fairly decent but creates the problem, old bag holders swap to new bag holders, and it's open to exploit, as is your own coin.

If you could codify this in a different way, without it being a coin, perhaps just a well known coin index and voting system, you'd achieve more with more benefit to the community.

I admire your efforts, but worry as above.


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Multi-Channel | POW+POS |CSD Verification
Post by: KryptoKash on June 28, 2014, 08:29:01 PM
Thank you for taking the time to outline your observations. Most of them have been addressed throughout this thread. If you have any specific questions please ask and I will be happy to answer them.

~KryptoKash


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Multi-Channel | POW+POS |CSD Verification
Post by: armin22 on June 28, 2014, 08:36:59 PM
I FUCKING LOVE THIS COIN


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Multi-Channel | POW+POS |CSD Verification
Post by: SomeRelax on June 28, 2014, 11:09:05 PM
i like the idea behind this coin
too many shitcoins are out there
let's see how it works


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Multi-Channel | POW+POS |CSD Verification
Post by: enerbyte on June 29, 2014, 02:57:15 AM
nice project :)


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Multi-Channel | POW+POS |CSD Verification
Post by: Hesiod on June 30, 2014, 08:13:18 PM
Hey,

Would you implement something similar to what the Minerals coin did to avoid big farms and multipools reaping all your coins from the start just to dump all of them the next day? What they did is limit the hashrate per user, and their coin could only be mined on their pool during the PoW stage. They didn't release the wallet until PoS stage to avoid solo mining.

It resulted in Minerals having 25 GHs at the start compared to 100 GHs for other recent coins, even really shitty ones such as Hodorcoin, which proves that 75% of the miners are professional dumpers, big farms or multipools targeting new coins for a quick buck and not caring at all about the project.

It also resulted in Minerals being well spread, with a high price and large volumes on exchanges (100 btc+ in a few days).

Cheers


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Multi-Channel | POW+POS |CSD Verification
Post by: komodovpn on June 30, 2014, 08:16:38 PM
Hey,

Would you implement something similar to what the Minerals coin did to avoid big farms and multipools reaping all your coins from the start just to dump all of them the next day? What they did is limit the hashrate per user, and their coin could only be mined on their pool during the PoW stage. They didn't release the wallet until PoS stage to avoid solo mining.

It resulted in Minerals having 25 GHs at the start compared to 100 GHs for other recent coins, even really shitty ones such as Hodorcoin, which proves that 75% of the miners are professional dumpers, big farms or multipools targeting new coins for a quick buck and not caring at all about the project.

It also resulted in Minerals being well spread, with a high price and large volumes on exchanges (100 btc+ in a few days).

Cheers

+1

big farms and multipools really do ruin cryptos, especially the ones that are new. They get pummeled and then dumped on the first exchange it makes it on. Fair distribution through hashrate limitation is great, especially if your coin only has a limited PoW period anyway.


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Multi-Channel | POW+POS |CSD Verification
Post by: KryptoKash on June 30, 2014, 08:48:37 PM
Hey,

Would you implement something similar to what the Minerals coin did to avoid big farms and multipools reaping all your coins from the start just to dump all of them the next day? What they did is limit the hashrate per user, and their coin could only be mined on their pool during the PoW stage. They didn't release the wallet until PoS stage to avoid solo mining.

It resulted in Minerals having 25 GHs at the start compared to 100 GHs for other recent coins, even really shitty ones such as Hodorcoin, which proves that 75% of the miners are professional dumpers, big farms or multipools targeting new coins for a quick buck and not caring at all about the project.

It also resulted in Minerals being well spread, with a high price and large volumes on exchanges (100 btc+ in a few days).

Cheers

+1

big farms and multipools really do ruin cryptos, especially the ones that are new. They get pummeled and then dumped on the first exchange it makes it on. Fair distribution through hashrate limitation is great, especially if your coin only has a limited PoW period anyway.

Videlicet has created his own time-based distribution. This effectively makes coinshield multi-pool proof. Anyone jumping on with a big hash-rate will receive fractional block rewards (based on block time) until difficulty corrects itself. This will prevent multi-pools from profiting off mining CSD.


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Multi-Channel | POW+POS |CSD Verification
Post by: wu21456 on June 30, 2014, 08:54:05 PM
Is there IPO or premine?


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Multi-Channel | POW+POS |CSD Verification
Post by: KryptoKash on June 30, 2014, 09:03:39 PM
Is there IPO or premine?
There is no IPO and 0 premine.


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Multi-Channel | POW+POS |CSD Verification
Post by: defaced on July 01, 2014, 04:44:15 PM
Man this is serious business!


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Multi-Channel | POW+POS |CSD Verification
Post by: Bitdonator on July 01, 2014, 08:01:40 PM
Cant wait to dump all shitcoins I have, and exchange for shieldcoin  ;D
This coin will be flagcoin of 2014


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Multi-Channel | POW+POS |CSD Verification
Post by: bigreddmachine on July 02, 2014, 12:36:13 AM
Flagcoin!?  What is Flagcoin?  Is it premined???

;)  Best of luck to coin shield.


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Multi-Channel | POW+POS |CSD Verification
Post by: Videlicet on July 03, 2014, 09:14:52 PM
[Progress] is being made, here is an [update]:

1. Block Header Hashes now 1024 bit. [Most Secure POW Hash]
2. Transaction Hashes [and everything else] now 512 bit.
3. GPU Channel [Right now is SHA512, BLAKE512, SKEIN1024]. TODO: External Solo GPU Miner
4. [IN-PROCESS] Implementing Unified Time Model [Synchronizes network to same time from a Seed Regardless of your time]. No more clock problems.
5. Fractional Rewarding System in Place [with 600% block inflation, coin inflation was only 0.1%]. No more Instamining.
6. CPU POW, searching for large prime numbers [1024 bits and up, size of 10^308]. Testing Difficulty Limitations using Fermat Remainder proportions:
   double difficulty = ((prime - FermatTest(PRIME_DOWN(prime), 2) << 16) / prime) / ((prime - FermatTest(PRIME_UP(prime), 2) << 16) / prime)

Coinshield is really starting to set itself apart from the general Modus Operandi, which couldn't of happened without the suggestions from users like [you]. Thank You  :D
As always, any questions, suggestions, or concerns ?

EDIT: Here are our two types of hashes:
Coinshield Block Header [1024 bits]:
00003c9d1aa27eb4917c601c59c5d99dcc43441e810419143ba1ebd4639f5090f5d1a2b12ade583 ea6fcea548f80dfc0cd37818231a3471a9b3b2ce44bea8ab943f36cdee63005e9fd766f93400d36 2faceda5a61eb0b499ddb5d2efb9484282458d2ecb2190ee27fdf823effb4776f599362d10eff4f c4846bb56f9e6bb4ad2

Coinshield Tx Hash [512 bits]:
ebf9fc2c4563bac07d164812089222114025733b805312b8b407f4d3b6157e3f5b936067d4d96a3 6cc1c884e54c460e01725aeaf860dd1e01b4345b8124bd4a7

~Videlicet


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Multi-Channel | POW+POS |CSD Verification
Post by: coinsolidation on July 05, 2014, 01:55:48 AM
4. [IN-PROCESS] Implementing Unified Time Model [Synchronizes network to same time from a Seed Regardless of your time]. No more clock problems.

Do you have any more details on this published anywhere?


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Multi-Channel | POW+POS |CSD Verification
Post by: armin22 on July 05, 2014, 02:00:28 AM
Wooot! Progress!.


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Multi-Channel | POW+POS |CSD Verification
Post by: Videlicet on July 05, 2014, 04:34:49 AM
4. [IN-PROCESS] Implementing Unified Time Model [Synchronizes network to same time from a Seed Regardless of your time]. No more clock problems.

Do you have any more details on this published anywhere?

It is of my own programming, and it works like this:
1. When node first starts, it grabs DNS seeds [for seed nodes] addresses and connects to each seed
2. Upon connection, node gets offset from that seed node, and averages it to the offset of other seed nodes [that are already connected]
3. If no seed nodes are found [seed nodes are all down], time will be seeded from average offset of connected peers [which is the unified time seed, saved on HD of peers]
4. This node's unified time seed will then be stored in DB, for anyone coming onto network to synchronize their clocks with [by comparing each other's unified times]
5. Unified Time Seed is checked to Median Seed every time there is a new connection from [seed node if there are seeds connected, peers if there are no seeds connected]

I have been testing, and results so far are + or - 2 seconds from clocks that are + or - 2 days out of sync.
This prevents manipulation of time within [allowable clock drift], and keeps difficulty adjustments smoother.
Last thing it does is make the system more user friendly [to not give pesky warning messages of clock being out of sync].

~Videlicet


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Multi-Channel | POW+POS |CSD Verification
Post by: phzi on July 05, 2014, 10:47:55 PM
[Progress] is being made, here is an [update]:

3. GPU Channel [Right now is SHA512, BLAKE512, SKEIN1024]. TODO: External Solo GPU Miner
Please ensure that you have a patch for sgminer v5 branch ( https://github.com/sgminer-dev/sgminer/tree/v5_0 ) available at launch.

You can likely get it committed to the main repo before launch it you act quickly.


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Multi-Channel | POW+POS |CSD Verification
Post by: fran2k on July 05, 2014, 11:11:41 PM
I don´t like the idea of sending you my shitcoins for coinshields knowing that you are gaining BTC from that.

I would prefer that the CSD would be emitted through a Proof of Burn of shitcoins.


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Multi-Channel | POW+POS |CSD Verification
Post by: KryptoKash on July 05, 2014, 11:32:35 PM
I don´t like the idea of sending you my shitcoins for coinshields knowing that you are gaining BTC from that.

I would prefer that the CSD would be emitted through a Proof of Burn of shitcoins.

BTC gained from your shitcoins will be used to build buy walls for Coinshield. All transactions will be public. We will show a history of our buy walls on our main site (coinshield.io). You will be able to track your shitcoins from our system, to an exchange, to btc, and to the buy walls. If anyone dumps on our buy walls the CSD generated from that will go into our shitcoin trade channels as a secondary  funding source of CSD to ensure we can continue trading without interruptions (waiting for trade channels to replenish themselves).

I hope this makes the process a bit clearer.

~KryptoKash


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Multi-Channel | POW+POS |CSD Verification
Post by: notsofast on July 06, 2014, 01:38:26 AM
I really don't think this concept can work fairly. It's so ripe for exploitation.


Title: Re: [ANN] Coin Shield - Shitcoin Cleanup | Multi-Channel | POW+POS |CSD Verification
Post by: KryptoKash on July 06, 2014, 01:56:56 AM
I really don't think this concept can work fairly. It's so ripe for exploitation.

How exactly do you see this being exploited?


Title: Re: [ANN]CSD |SK-1024 GPU| Prime Search CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: KryptoKash on July 06, 2014, 08:00:30 AM
Coinshield launch date has been pushed back a few days so Videlicet can finish testing. The new date is 7/11 at noon (UTC-08:00) Pacific Time. CLICK HERE (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20140711T12&p0=137&msg=Coin+Shield+Launch) for countdown. The following was added to the OP:

CSD- Unique Features

The following features are unique to Coinshield and were created by Videlicet.

Upgraded Hashing - 1024 Bit Block Headers/ 512 Bit Core
Coinshield was built to be secure. CSD is the first coin to upgrade from a 256 bit to a 512 bit core and a 1024 block hash.


CSD Unified Time Model - Synchronizes Clocks Worldwide
Miners can no longer try to gain an unfair advantage by manipulating their clocks. No more "your wallet is 2 hours behind" error. Wallets will always be on the correct time, regardless of your clocks settings. CSD Unified Time Model keeps your clock in sync to the second no matter if your clock is off by 5 minutes or 5 days.


CSD Fractional Rewarding - Prevents Inflation / Locks Distribution to Timed Release
No more instamine! Goodbye HUGE multi-pool profits! CSD Fractional Rewarding bases block reward off of the block time when the chain is producing too many blocks. This will keep the Coin Distribution Locked to a Specific Time, which means no matter how many blocks are made, coin supply will remain on target.


No More Block Reward Halving
Coinshield was designed to have longevity, and be a stable container for wealth for many years to come. This is why coinshield block reward will never half over night. CSD follows an exponential decay model, which follows a curve to ease shock to market. It will be mineable forever, with minimal inflation of 1% after 10 years.


The First Multi-Channel coin with POS
Coinshield has a CPU mining channel, a GPU mining channel, and POS at a 2% Annual Inflation (2 Week Age, 2 Year Limit).


SK-1024 (New GPU Mining Algorithm)
Skein-1024 hashed to Keccak-1024. Skein was the second runner up in the NIST SHA3 competition. Together these two algorithms are highly secure.


Prime Search (New CPU Mining Algorithm)
This channel looks for very large prime numbers from a 1024 bit hash. These numbers can be as large as 308 digits. It uses a fractional difficulty proportion to adjust the difficulty. This will help number theorist in proving/disproving conjectures concerning prime numbers.


Shield Target - Target Difficulty from Chain Time and Block Time Proportions
Coinshield has it's own difficulty targeting system called Shield Target. Shield Target will provide Coinshield with a smooth increase and sharp decrease in mining difficulty. For the GPU mining algorithm Shield Target uses two variables:
1. Giving Block Time
2. The Chain Time

The first variable will tell you how far off target that one block is, the next variable will tell you what block the block chain should be at. If the height of block being created is less than the target chain height, that block will be at a lower difficulty to stimulate more block production. This will bring chain back to its target. If chain is too far ahead of target, it will have larger difficulty increases to increase their block times and get the chain back on target (for specifics see code at launch).

For the CPU, Shield Target works by getting an average of N block times which will determine what the difficulty should be adjusted to. The prime numbers found will have to fulfill a proportion of Fermat Remainders of (2 (2n - 1) + 1) and ((n - 1) / 2) + 1) / 2 which makes larger proportions *rare* to find. The second factor taken into account is the size of the 1024 hash. This is done by taking the difference between largest 1024 bit number and prime number to account for larger primes requiring more computing to produce.


Title: Re: [ANN] [CSD] SK-1024 GPU| Prime Search CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: DISTRO72 on July 06, 2014, 12:08:08 PM
After reading the text I thought you were working for the NSA.

But anyway your coin is shit like many other coins.

The market is the place where coins are judged.

Your described methods are furthermore not legal or do you own a bank license and work as a sheriff at the same time?

I bet if you don't work for the NSA they'll catch you soon and everyone else involved too.

Or some coin owners.

To invest money in destroying coins is like throwing it away.

Put yourself on your own list.


Title: Re: [ANN] [CSD] SK-1024 GPU| Prime Search CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: smokim87 on July 06, 2014, 12:34:10 PM
What happens when the entire community of shits (including whales) decide to go against you? Shitcoins make whales a living, take that from them and they'll come after you. They could destroy the value of this coin and wondering if you can defend against hundreds of BTC. So how would this be resolved?

Also the shitcoin that gets the highest votes will probably be dead for a while and really doesn't matter anymore. Instead of trying to kill already dead shitcoins maybe try preventing them from being created which I find impossible now.


Title: Re: [ANN] [CSD] SK-1024 GPU| Prime Search CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Videlicet on July 06, 2014, 09:16:52 PM
What happens when the entire community of shits (including whales) decide to go against you? Shitcoins make whales a living, take that from them and they'll come after you. They could destroy the value of this coin and wondering if you can defend against hundreds of BTC. So how would this be resolved?

Also the shitcoin that gets the highest votes will probably be dead for a while and really doesn't matter anymore. Instead of trying to kill already dead shitcoins maybe try preventing them from being created which I find impossible now.

If this were the circumstances, I would presume a whale [or community of a coin] would be active in appealing any petitions to destroy said shitcoin. This would cause a significant controversy that would have to be resolved before a petition was approved or denied. I want to clarify, that it will not be us making the decisions, we are only here to make sure the community's voice is actively reflected.

Onto your point of preventing coins from being created, this is what Coinshield Verification will help with [by adding any Coinshield Verified Clones to channels]. We can not expect any changes to happen over night, but I believe as more people become familiar with the Vision of Coinshield, eventually we can bring some quality into the marketplace. This will come from people raising their standards of "what is acceptable", while having a new tool [Coinshield] that gives them the power to do so.

If we work together, we can change the way things are.

~Videlicet


Title: Re: [ANN] [CSD] SK-1024 GPU| Prime Search CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: coolmyrig on July 07, 2014, 04:06:55 AM
Shitcoins make whales a living


Title: Re: [ANN] [CSD] SK-1024 GPU| Prime Search CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: McNulty on July 07, 2014, 09:54:53 PM
how about power usage for your GPU algo ? have you done some test ?


Title: Re: [ANN] [CSD] SK-1024 GPU| Prime Search CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: LTCMAXMYR on July 08, 2014, 09:53:09 AM
 SHA-512 ,whitch one ? SHA-2 512bit, or SHA-3 keccak 512bit ?
and is there a cpu miner for this algo?


Title: Re: [ANN] [CSD] SK-1024 GPU| Prime Search CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: herzogzwei on July 08, 2014, 10:19:04 AM
Yet another shit-killer! pls try not to become the new kind of SHITCOIN ::)


Title: Re: [ANN] [CSD] SK-1024 GPU| Prime Search CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: BitSlapper on July 08, 2014, 03:25:53 PM
Sorry if this was already asked... but will the GPU miner be available on Launch?

how about power usage for your GPU algo ? have you done some test ?

I'm interested in this also.

Would like to know if my rigs are going to become space heaters again...


Title: Re: [ANN] [CSD] SK-1024 GPU| Prime Search CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: CryptoHobo on July 08, 2014, 05:08:55 PM
dafuq, thought u'd launched but im guessing this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=681570.0 isnt CSD

theyve just switched the name around and made it x15


Title: Re: [ANN] [CSD] SK-1024 GPU| Prime Search CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: dbt1033 on July 08, 2014, 05:34:57 PM
dafuq, thought u'd launched but im guessing this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=681570.0 isnt CSD

theyve just switched the name around and made it x15

Shieldcoin just looks like some garbage clonecoin bullshit.

It looks like the Coinshield team wants to ensure that everything is absolutely perfect before they launch.

They are bringing never before seen innovation to the crypto community, and I am very excited, to say the least.

I'll see you guys in three days, when it's ready to go live.

Good luck!


Title: Re: [ANN] [CSD] SK-1024 GPU| Prime Search CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: KryptoKash on July 08, 2014, 06:23:16 PM
Sorry if this was already asked... but will the GPU miner be available on Launch?

how about power usage for your GPU algo ? have you done some test ?

I'm interested in this also.

Would like to know if my rigs are going to become space heaters again...

Videlicet will reply however there will be a slight delay. He has been coding and testing 15hrs+ everyday. I informed him about your posts, as soon as he takes a break he will jump on and reply.

dafuq, thought u'd launched but im guessing this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=681570.0 isnt CSD

theyve just switched the name around and made it x15

That is not Coinshield. We have not launched. I'm sorry for the confusion the other coin dev. has caused. This is another example as to why the industry needs Coinshield.





Title: Re: [ANN] [CSD] SK-1024 GPU| Prime Search CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: KryptoKash on July 08, 2014, 06:31:47 PM
SHA-512 ,whitch one ? SHA-2 512bit, or SHA-3 keccak 512bit ?
and is there a cpu miner for this algo?

The CPU miner will be released at launch.  :)


Title: Re: [ANN] [CSD] SK-1024 GPU| Prime Search CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: djm34 on July 08, 2014, 09:57:34 PM
CSD Unified Time Model - Synchronizes Clocks Worldwide
Miners can no longer try to gain an unfair advantage by manipulating their clocks. No more "your wallet is 2 hours behind" error. Wallets will always be on the correct time, regardless of your clocks settings. CSD Unified Time Model keeps your clock in sync to the second no matter if your clock is off by 5 minutes or 5 days.

can someone explain to me, how I can gain unfair advantage by manipulating my clock.
Usually when I get "your wallet is 2 hours behind", it is rather due to the fact I am not synchronized with the blockchain... 


Title: Re: [ANN] [CSD] SK-1024 GPU| Prime Search CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: BitSlapper on July 08, 2014, 11:36:48 PM
SHA-512 ,whitch one ? SHA-2 512bit, or SHA-3 keccak 512bit ?
and is there a cpu miner for this algo?

The CPU miner will be released at launch.  :)

What about the GPU miner?


Title: Re: [ANN] [CSD] SK-1024 GPU| Prime Search CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Videlicet on July 09, 2014, 12:50:29 AM
It seems there are some [questions] here needing [answers].

1. The CPU Miner - This will be released in the client at launch [will make external rpc miner in time]. This will be looking for prime clusters, searching off of a 1024 bit hash [~308 digits]. It will help to determine various prime number conjectures concerning "dense prime clusters". These clusters have been found as large as 17 primes.

2. The GPU Miner - I am currently in process of coding this [from scratch]. Since I upgraded the Coinshield Core to 512 bit / 1024 bit headers, all previous miners in their architecture will not work. My goal is to have a basic solo miner available for launch. I will be developing this more in the future [and hope others may help].

3. Unified Time / Fractional Rewards - The fractional rewards bases your block reward off of your block time. With the old time system, it would get an average median of all connected nodes, and check that median to your personal clock. With this, the network would then tell you to change your time if it was off from the median. Due to the node not having a connection to every node in the network, it would be unable to get a completely accurate median time, so "allowable clock drift" was integrated into the code [this is what partially allowed time-warp exploits with KGW].

Now, Unified Time locks the network to a set time seed, allowing everyone to be on the same time [+ / - propagation time]. Now if the time was not set in such a way, one would be able to change their clock's time to be closest to the "allowable clock drift = 2 * 60 * 60". This would enable anyone to make blocks 2 hours in the future, making the network think the block took 2 hours to create, which would give a fractional reward of [7200/60]. This would cause unfair advantage.

To Clarify, "Your wallet is 2 hours behind" is not the warning, it is "Warning: Please check that your computer's date and time are correct.  If your clock is wrong Coinshield will not work properly."

4. Coinshield Core - The core is done, it is just fine "tuning" now. This is on-time for launch.

Hope this helps,

~Videlicet


Title: Re: [ANN] [CSD] SK-1024 GPU| Prime Search CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: nonny12 on July 09, 2014, 02:32:17 AM
Is that the old CryptoRush.in logo on your website?  ???


Title: Re: [ANN] [CSD] SK-1024 GPU| Prime Search CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: KryptoKash on July 09, 2014, 03:22:44 AM
Is that the old CryptoRush.in logo on your website?  ???
I personally have only used BTC-E, Cryptsy, and Mintpal - I never been on CryptoRush. After some google searches I verified you are correct. It looks like our designer slipped that in under our radar. We will get that changed ASAP. Thank you for letting us know.


Title: Re: [ANN] [CSD] SK-1024 GPU| Prime Search CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: nonny12 on July 09, 2014, 03:38:58 AM
Is that the old CryptoRush.in logo on your website?  ???
I personally have only used BTC-E, Cryptsy, and Mintpal - I never been on CryptoRush. After some google searches I verified you are correct. It looks like our designer slipped that in under our radar. We will get that changed ASAP. Thank you for letting us know.

You'd do best to not associate yourselves with cryptorush  ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] [CSD] SK-1024 GPU| Prime Search CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: shrekster on July 09, 2014, 03:43:12 AM
Why is this even a thing


Title: Re: [ANN] [CSD] SK-1024 GPU| Prime Search CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: phzi on July 09, 2014, 03:47:25 AM
Why is this even a thing

What do you see as a problem with the idea?  Seems like a solid project to me.

1. The CPU Miner - This will be released in the client at launch [will make external rpc miner in time]. This will be looking for prime clusters, searching off of a 1024 bit hash [~308 digits]. It will help to determine various prime number conjectures concerning "dense prime clusters". These clusters have been found as large as 17 primes.

2. The GPU Miner - I am currently in process of coding this [from scratch]. Since I upgraded the Coinshield Core to 512 bit / 1024 bit headers, all previous miners in their architecture will not work. My goal is to have a basic solo miner available for launch. I will be developing this more in the future [and hope others may help].

To make this fair, you really should release the mining software WELL in advance of the actual wallet release and coin launch...

Otherwise those behind this project have a clear and unfair advantage while others are still trying to compile/install and then optimize new mining software...  This isn't just another algo... this is totally new software you're talking about.

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Have to say I'm a bit disappointed you didn't go with a memory-hard proof of work algorithm for GPUs.


Title: Re: [ANN] [CSD] SK-1024 GPU| Prime Search CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: yampi on July 09, 2014, 03:54:52 AM
We should not absorb just shitcoin economies, we should set out to absorb every coin out there, even bitcoin.
The coins that provided real innovation can be invited over to join Coin Shield development team to create the most innovative cryptocurrency ever after having their coins' economy absorbed by the coin shredding machine known as CSD.


Title: Re: [ANN] [CSD] SK-1024 GPU| Prime Search CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: shrekster on July 09, 2014, 03:59:21 AM
The whole takeover attitude is going to be the downfall of this.


Title: Re: [ANN] [CSD] SK-1024 GPU| Prime Search CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: cwrmyy888 on July 09, 2014, 04:00:00 AM
The administrator, I have a few questions

This coin has an CPU channel, GPU channel.

How many blocks is CPU?

How many blocks is GPU?

For example :1-10000 CPU 10001-Forever?


At the same time with the CPU, GPU mining, block how to reward?
How to SOLO?
If only CPU
If only GPU
CPU and GPU mining

What is this three SOLO code? Not like other coins?

What command, how to identify the computer with CPU GPU dig or dig?


Title: Re: [ANN] [CSD] SK-1024 GPU| Prime Search CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: phzi on July 09, 2014, 05:55:22 AM
The administrator, I have a few questions

This coin has an CPU channel, GPU channel.

How many blocks is CPU?

How many blocks is GPU?

For example :1-10000 CPU 10001-Forever?


At the same time with the CPU, GPU mining, block how to reward?
How to SOLO?
If only CPU
If only GPU
CPU and GPU mining

What is this three SOLO code? Not like other coins?

What command, how to identify the computer with CPU GPU dig or dig?
I think the idea is that the network can mine two algorithm simultaneously, and find a block with either one.  Diff would adjust per-algorithm to target a certain portion of CPU vs GPU mining.

There's other examples where such a system has already been implemented (prior multi-channel coins based on bitcoin)

To solo mine, nothing should change if you already know the technical details behind solo mining.


Title: Re: [ANN] [CSD] SK-1024 GPU| Prime Search CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Videlicet on July 09, 2014, 06:03:49 AM
The administrator, I have a few questions

This coin has an CPU channel, GPU channel.

How many blocks is CPU?

How many blocks is GPU?

For example :1-10000 CPU 10001-Forever?


At the same time with the CPU, GPU mining, block how to reward?
How to SOLO?
If only CPU
If only GPU
CPU and GPU mining

What is this three SOLO code? Not like other coins?

What command, how to identify the computer with CPU GPU dig or dig?

It will be minable forever, with 2% annual inflation after 10 years. The CPU and GPU have their own algorithms, so each has their own difficulty adjustments. The blocks are rewarded based on the time it took for that particular channel to solve the block. This keeps the distribution based on time, rather than blocks.


To make this fair, you really should release the mining software WELL in advance of the actual wallet release and coin launch...

Otherwise those behind this project have a clear and unfair advantage while others are still trying to compile/install and then optimize new mining software...  This isn't just another algo... this is totally new software you're talking about.

I appreciate your concerns, and this is definitely an optimum approach, unfortunately in my circumstances I am in the position of being the developer for not just the Coinshield Core, but the GPU/CPU Miners [and not to forget the CSD Exchange Channels]. This makes my highest priority the Coinshield Core which I am testing currently [this is why I've had the time to chip away at the ole' GPU miner]  :)

Have to say I'm a bit disappointed you didn't go with a memory-hard proof of work algorithm for GPUs.

I decided to go with Skein and Keccak due to their security [and implementation of 1024 bit hashing]. My aim with this algorithm is ease on mining hardware, and from my experience memory hard hashing functions are a bit harder on hardware [Rather than the SHA3 candidates ex. blake, skein, keccak, etc.].

~Videlicet


Title: Re: [ANN] [CSD] SK-1024 GPU| Prime Search CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: yampi on July 09, 2014, 06:22:32 AM

Have to say I'm a bit disappointed you didn't go with a memory-hard proof of work algorithm for GPUs.

I decided to go with Skein and Keccak due to their security [and implementation of 1024 bit hashing]. My aim with this algorithm is ease on mining hardware, and from my experience memory hard hashing functions are a bit harder on hardware [Rather than the SHA3 candidates ex. blake, skein, keccak, etc.].

~Videlicet

You mean the algorithm will be Skein and Keccak combined?


Title: Re: [ANN] [CSD] SK-1024 GPU| Prime Search CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Videlicet on July 09, 2014, 06:29:56 AM

Have to say I'm a bit disappointed you didn't go with a memory-hard proof of work algorithm for GPUs.

I decided to go with Skein and Keccak due to their security [and implementation of 1024 bit hashing]. My aim with this algorithm is ease on mining hardware, and from my experience memory hard hashing functions are a bit harder on hardware [Rather than the SHA3 candidates ex. blake, skein, keccak, etc.].

~Videlicet

You mean the algorithm will be Skein and Keccak combined?

It will be Skein hashed to Keccak [SK-1024]  :)

~Videlicet


Title: Re: [ANN] [CSD] SK-1024 GPU| Prime Search CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Apostle4444 on July 09, 2014, 07:46:38 AM
I hold a few coins that I would deem shit.
Can't see how I can transfer these coins to a new wallet that you would be controlling when the coin itself is dead and can't be transferred any longer between wallets because no one is able to confirm transactions.

Are these coins deemed beyond Shit coin status ?


Title: Re: [ANN] [CSD] SK-1024 GPU| Prime Search CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: KryptoKash on July 09, 2014, 08:38:22 AM
I hold a few coins that I would deem shit.
Can't see how I can transfer these coins to a new wallet that you would be controlling when the coin itself is dead and can't be transferred any longer between wallets because no one is able to confirm transactions.

Are these coins deem beyond Shit coin status ?

If a coin is deemed shit by the community we will open a trade channel for it. If the coin has no miners and no one can confirm transactions the trade channel will go dormant. It will only send you CSD after it receives your coins. If it receives your coins after a set expiration time, your coins are returned to you. If or when the chain becomes unstuck, you will not have any issues using the trade channel. This will ensure that shitcoins stay dead and valueless.


Title: Re: [ANN] [CSD] SK-1024 GPU| Prime Search CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: znakistu on July 09, 2014, 09:44:43 AM
I hold a few coins that I would deem shit.
Can't see how I can transfer these coins to a new wallet that you would be controlling when the coin itself is dead and can't be transferred any longer between wallets because no one is able to confirm transactions.

Are these coins deem beyond Shit coin status ?

If a coin is deemed shit by the community we will open a trade channel for it. If the coin has no miners and no one can confirm transactions the trade channel will go dormant. It will only send you CSD after it receives your coins. If it receives your coins after a set expiration time, your coins are returned to you. If or when the chain becomes unstuck, you will not have any issues using the trade channel. This will ensure that shitcoins stay dead and valueless.

so let's take the following case:

i have 6 mil CTD - the network works. I just send 6 mil to the trade channel. i will receive how many CSD?


Title: Re: [ANN] [CSD] SK-1024 GPU| Prime Search CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: djm34 on July 09, 2014, 01:54:24 PM

Have to say I'm a bit disappointed you didn't go with a memory-hard proof of work algorithm for GPUs.

I decided to go with Skein and Keccak due to their security [and implementation of 1024 bit hashing]. My aim with this algorithm is ease on mining hardware, and from my experience memory hard hashing functions are a bit harder on hardware [Rather than the SHA3 candidates ex. blake, skein, keccak, etc.].

~Videlicet

You mean the algorithm will be Skein and Keccak combined?

It will be Skein hashed to Keccak [SK-1024]  :)

~Videlicet
It change every page  ::) (a page ago it was sha-512/blake-512/skein-1024 now what exactly ?


Title: Re: [ANN] [CSD] SK-1024 GPU| Prime Search CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Videlicet on July 09, 2014, 03:32:10 PM

Have to say I'm a bit disappointed you didn't go with a memory-hard proof of work algorithm for GPUs.

I decided to go with Skein and Keccak due to their security [and implementation of 1024 bit hashing]. My aim with this algorithm is ease on mining hardware, and from my experience memory hard hashing functions are a bit harder on hardware [Rather than the SHA3 candidates ex. blake, skein, keccak, etc.].

~Videlicet

You mean the algorithm will be Skein and Keccak combined?

It will be Skein hashed to Keccak [SK-1024]  :)

~Videlicet
It change every page  ::) (a page ago it was sha-512/blake-512/skein-1024 now what exactly ?

It is all part of the process. :D

The final is SK-1024 and SK-512 which is Skein hashed to Keccak. This is implemented currently in Coinshield Core to replace all SHA2 hashes. Block Hashes use SK-1024, Core uses SK-512. Skein was the second runner up to Keccak in the NIST SHA3 competition, which makes them a strong combination.


EDIT: Here is an example of a Coinshield Address
2QuLJSwmbzQsXSosdLnew1FWmn8NFKUDEBwe4VP4DPCgbMxGeQN

I upgraded the hashing for addresses to SK-256 as well. [a bitcoin address looks like 1Fi57hAqyYYwaQVdA7a9qSKfiukBbt31G3]

~Videlicet


Title: Re: [ANN] [CSD] SK-1024 GPU| Prime Search CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: KryptoKash on July 09, 2014, 11:49:16 PM
I hold a few coins that I would deem shit.
Can't see how I can transfer these coins to a new wallet that you would be controlling when the coin itself is dead and can't be transferred any longer between wallets because no one is able to confirm transactions.

Are these coins deem beyond Shit coin status ?

If a coin is deemed shit by the community we will open a trade channel for it. If the coin has no miners and no one can confirm transactions the trade channel will go dormant. It will only send you CSD after it receives your coins. If it receives your coins after a set expiration time, your coins are returned to you. If or when the chain becomes unstuck, you will not have any issues using the trade channel. This will ensure that shitcoins stay dead and valueless.

so let's take the following case:

i have 6 mil CTD - the network works. I just send 6 mil to the trade channel. i will receive how many CSD?

Coinshield trade channels will use a highly advanced trade algorithm. The trade channel will check several factors prior to giving you an exchange rate. (value of both coins, the current buy orders of the shitcoin, as well as how many of the total supply we have already traded in and dumped, as well as a few other things). How much CSD you receive will depend on all these factors. Remember to get the best exchange rate possible you will want to be one of the first traders when the channel opens.


Title: Re: [ANN] [CSD] SK-1024 GPU| Prime Search CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: LTCMAXMYR on July 10, 2014, 04:04:03 AM
i am waiting to dig.
are the cpu and gpu tools ready?


Title: Re: [ANN] [CSD] SK-1024 GPU| Prime Search CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Videlicet on July 10, 2014, 07:08:46 AM
I'm extending launch 1 more week. It will be on 7/18/14 12:00 PM

This will be the last extension [I Promise].
I am only one person, and I still have to write an external GPU miner from scratch [also still waiting on data centers to get more servers]

Everything else is done.

~Videlicet


Title: Re: [ANN] [CSD] SK-1024 GPU| Prime Search CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: KryptoKash on July 10, 2014, 07:12:44 AM
I'm extending launch 1 more week. It will be on 7/18/14 12:00 PM

This will be the last extension [I Promise].
I am only one person, and I still have to write an external GPU miner from scratch [also still waiting on data centers to get more servers]

Everything else is done.

~Videlicet



New Launch (And Final) Timer: http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20140718T12&p0=137&msg=CoinShield+Launch&csz=1


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: coinsolidation on July 10, 2014, 08:32:48 AM
Videlicet, I am happy to see a knowledgeable developer putting in so much hard work.

But I am worried about QA, with so much innovation and new code coming from a single source, there must be bugs. What is the QA process, who are the testers?

I do not mean to discourage the effort at all, or anything negative, rather to encourage this to go smoothly for you, since you have put so much hard work in to the project.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Videlicet on July 10, 2014, 08:51:09 AM
Videlicet, I am happy to see a knowledgeable developer putting in so much hard work.

But I am worried about QA, with so much innovation and new code coming from a single source, there must be bugs. What is the QA process, who are the testers?

I do not mean to discourage the effort at all, or anything negative, rather to encourage this to go smoothly for you, since you have put so much hard work in to the project.

It is currently just [me] testing [with many computers], this is one reason I have been pushing the launch back [I need to ensure that the code is stable].

Anyone is welcome to help test, I'm actually thinking of releasing some binaries with a Unifed Time Lock set to 7/18/14 12:00 PM, so that we can test it on a testnet before launch. Either way this will keep people from producing any blocks on main net until launch time, to allow the binaries to be released before launch [this makes the process much easier on everyone]  :)

EDIT: I assure the quality of the code by dedicating a large quantity of my time solely to its development - experience amplifies this. It is my personal philosophy that more minds together amplifies anything; with this being said - all willing [testers] will be welcomed with open arms

Thank You,
~Videlicet


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: mumus on July 10, 2014, 09:15:10 AM
Videlicet, I am happy to see a knowledgeable developer putting in so much hard work.

But I am worried about QA, with so much innovation and new code coming from a single source, there must be bugs. What is the QA process, who are the testers?

I do not mean to discourage the effort at all, or anything negative, rather to encourage this to go smoothly for you, since you have put so much hard work in to the project.

It is currently just [me] testing [with many computers], this is one reason I have been pushing the launch back [I need to ensure that the code is stable].

Anyone is welcome to help test, I'm actually thinking of releasing some binaries with a Unifed Time Lock set to 7/18/14 12:00 PM, so that we can test it on a testnet before launch. Either way this will keep people from producing any blocks on main net until launch time, to allow the binaries to be released before launch [this makes the process much easier on everyone]  :)


Thank You,
~Videlicet

I would be interested to participate in some testing.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: KryptoKash on July 10, 2014, 09:16:30 AM
We have updated the OP. Here is the final version of everything that is unique to Coinshield:
CSD- Unique Features

The following features are unique to Coinshield and were created by Videlicet.


Increased Security
SK-1024, SK-512, and SK-256 hashes used for Coinshield Core (to replace SHA2). It is Skein (second runner up in NIST SHA3 Competition) and Keccak (New SHA3 Standard) hashed together. This makes Coinshield the first to create a pure SHA3 network. This will allow it to stand the tests of time as computers get more and more powerful.


Upgraded Hashing
Coin Shield will be the first coin to use a 256-bit address hash, 512-bit transaction hash, and 1024-bit block hash.


SK-256 hashing for address generation
SK-256 hashing for address generation (ex. 2QuLJSwmbzQsXSosdLnew1FWmn8NFKUDEBwe4VP4DPCgbMxGeQN)


Coinshield will use Multiple Mining Channels and Proof of Stake
Multiple Mining Channels and Proof of Stake will make a 51% attack on Coin Shield very difficult (miner would need 51% of all three channels). Proof of Stake is set at a 2% Annual Inflation (2 Week Age, 2 Year Limit).


CSD Unified Time Model - Synchronizes Clocks Worldwide
Miners can no longer try to gain an unfair advantage by manipulating their clocks. CSD Unified Time Model keeps your Wallet in sync to the second no matter if your clock is off by 5 minutes or 5 days.


CSD Fractional Rewarding - Prevents Inflation / Locks Distribution to Timed Release
Coinshield will use a fractional rewarding system, this helps to ensure coin generation stays “on target” regardless of the number of blocks actually being created by the miners. It will be based per mining channel, which means each channel is awarded 50% of the time released supply (to keep distribution fair). No more instamine. Multipools will no longer profit.


No More Block Reward Halving
Coinshield was designed to have longevity, and be a stable container for wealth for many years to come. This is why Coinshield block reward will never half over night. Coins produced per minute is based on a slow decaying curve. This eases shock to the market by following a very natural time based curve. Mining should be considered “long-term” (~1% inflation after 10 years).


SK-1024 (New GPU Mining Algorithm)
Skein-1024 will be hashed to Keccak-1600 to produce an SK-1024 hash.


Prime Search (New CPU Mining Algorithm)
 This was created for the betterment of Mathematics and Number Theory. CPU miner will look for dense prime number clusters from a 1024 bit hash (~308 digits). This will help in the proving / disproving of The Twin Prime Conjecture, Polignac's Conjecture, and The Hardy-Littlewood Conjecture.


Shield Target - Target Difficulty from Chain Time and Block Time Proportions
Coinshield uses Shield Target, to work hand-in-hand with fractional rewarding. It will deflate the difficulty if mining channel is behind in blocks to bring reward up to target. It also uses asymmetrical adjustments to give higher priority to reduction in difficulty (this allows channel to recover quickly from large hash rate decreases).



Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Videlicet on July 10, 2014, 09:21:44 AM
Videlicet, I am happy to see a knowledgeable developer putting in so much hard work.

But I am worried about QA, with so much innovation and new code coming from a single source, there must be bugs. What is the QA process, who are the testers?

I do not mean to discourage the effort at all, or anything negative, rather to encourage this to go smoothly for you, since you have put so much hard work in to the project.

It is currently just [me] testing [with many computers], this is one reason I have been pushing the launch back [I need to ensure that the code is stable].

Anyone is welcome to help test, I'm actually thinking of releasing some binaries with a Unifed Time Lock set to 7/18/14 12:00 PM, so that we can test it on a testnet before launch. Either way this will keep people from producing any blocks on main net until launch time, to allow the binaries to be released before launch [this makes the process much easier on everyone]  :)


Thank You,
~Videlicet

I would be interested to participate in some testing.

Thank You, what operating system would you be able to test with?

~Videlicet


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: coinsolidation on July 10, 2014, 09:37:47 AM
I can also test with windows xp/vista/7/8 and ubuntu 10/12/14.

You can upload binaries to github by tagging a release, I just went through this process (https://github.com/project-bitmark/pfennig/releases/tag/v0.9.2.1-pre) and found it to be easy. You can download by wget as well, which is good for testing on servers.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Videlicet on July 10, 2014, 09:41:27 AM
I can also test with windows xp/vista/7/8 and ubuntu 10/12/14.

Perfect, Thank You. I'll be sure to let you know [I'm projecting that I'll release some binaries by Friday]

~Videlicet


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: coinsolidation on July 10, 2014, 09:42:35 AM
I can also test with windows xp/vista/7/8 and ubuntu 10/12/14.

Perfect, Thank You. I'll be sure to let you know [I'm projecting that I'll release some binaries by Friday]

~Videlicet

pm me at the time, I try to follow other interesting threads daily, but do not always manage as I am also busy developing!


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Videlicet on July 10, 2014, 09:45:36 AM
I can also test with windows xp/vista/7/8 and ubuntu 10/12/14.

Perfect, Thank You. I'll be sure to let you know [I'm projecting that I'll release some binaries by Friday]

~Videlicet

pm me at the time, I try to follow other interesting threads daily, but do not always manage as I am also busy developing!

Thank you for your willingness to help!

~Videlicet


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: gjhiggins on July 10, 2014, 11:25:51 AM
Anyone is welcome to help test, I'm actually thinking of releasing some binaries ... so that we can test it on a testnet before launch.

+10

Happy to help with the testing (Ubuntu trusty 64bit, OS X 10.6).

Cheers

Graham



Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Sinohe88 on July 11, 2014, 12:13:40 AM
willing to help in test net
i'm on win7 64 and xp 32

i like this project anyway and will support it
i really hate all those premined shitcoins

btw, i saw someone already asked this but no answer so far
so i asking again
how is the heating conditions for hashing in this algo?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: billotronic on July 11, 2014, 12:40:51 AM
I can help test as well. I have many *buntu variants 32 & 64 and a few random win boxes for color.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Superxfast on July 11, 2014, 02:34:09 AM
I can also test with windows xp/vista/7/8 and ubuntu 10/12/14.

Perfect, Thank You. I'll be sure to let you know [I'm projecting that I'll release some binaries by Friday]

~Videlicet

Dear Videlicet,

I can help to test with many Linux Server Centos 6, Windows server 2003, windows 8

Best Regrds,


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: jBacchus on July 11, 2014, 02:55:58 AM
What would testing involve?  Just mining?  I can do some CPU mining on Windows 8.1 machine with a 1st gen i7 (970)...

Would be interested in seeing how this plays out! :)  Sounds like a great concept and carefully planned... hope it executes in the same fashion! :)


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Videlicet on July 11, 2014, 05:28:13 AM
Thank you everyone! I'll post some more details [of what you can do to help test] when I release the binaries. I will be sure to have some compiled for linux / windows.

The GPU algorithm should run cooler than [scrypt / scrypt-n], it is based off of top 5 SHA3 candidates [winner and runner up] which had to maintain a certain level of efficiency [x11 is just a combination of 11 SHA3 candidates]. I don't have any reasonable data to verify this, so keep in mind this is a [logical assumption] for now... I will be sure to post test data as soon as I have it.

~Videlicet


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: cwrmyy888 on July 11, 2014, 07:50:09 AM
Are you kidding me ?
7/8

7/11

7/18

shit coin


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: djm34 on July 11, 2014, 09:57:56 AM
Thank you everyone! I'll post some more details [of what you can do to help test] when I release the binaries. I will be sure to have some compiled for linux / windows.

The GPU algorithm should run cooler than [scrypt / scrypt-n], it is based off of top 5 SHA3 candidates [winner and runner up] which had to maintain a certain level of efficiency [x11 is just a combination of 11 SHA3 candidates]. I don't have any reasonable data to verify this, so keep in mind this is a [logical assumption] for now... I will be sure to post test data as soon as I have it.

~Videlicet
so no more keccak-1024 and skein-1024 ?
(actually the only keccak-1024 I found, is an asm for fpga  ;D, and a slide for asic... I suppose in support for NIST competition)
I didn't even see an implementation of keccak-1024 in keccak source files... beside the fpga stuff)


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: djm34 on July 11, 2014, 10:05:47 AM
Thank you everyone! I'll post some more details [of what you can do to help test] when I release the binaries. I will be sure to have some compiled for linux / windows.

The GPU algorithm should run cooler than [scrypt / scrypt-n], it is based off of top 5 SHA3 candidates [winner and runner up] which had to maintain a certain level of efficiency [x11 is just a combination of 11 SHA3 candidates]. I don't have any reasonable data to verify this, so keep in mind this is a [logical assumption] for now... I will be sure to post test data as soon as I have it.

~Videlicet
the top 5 sha3 candidate so basically it will be NIST5  ;D
(if it is the case... I will call that a fail and walk off ;D... but at least it will be faster to write your gpu miner... mine too in a matter of fact  ;D)
When I think I started to look into skein-1024 (which actually wouldn't be too difficult (though painful) to port to sphlib)
 


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Videlicet on July 11, 2014, 10:45:02 AM
Thank you everyone! I'll post some more details [of what you can do to help test] when I release the binaries. I will be sure to have some compiled for linux / windows.

The GPU algorithm should run cooler than [scrypt / scrypt-n], it is based off of top 5 SHA3 candidates [winner and runner up] which had to maintain a certain level of efficiency [x11 is just a combination of 11 SHA3 candidates]. I don't have any reasonable data to verify this, so keep in mind this is a [logical assumption] for now... I will be sure to post test data as soon as I have it.

~Videlicet
the top 5 sha3 candidate so basically it will be NIST5  ;D
(if it is the case... I will call that a fail and walk off ;D... but at least it will be faster to write your gpu miner... mine too in a matter of fact  ;D)
When I think I started to look into skein-1024 (which actually wouldn't be too difficult (though painful) to port to sphlib)
 

My apologies, I should have been clearer in my wording. What I was trying to convey, is that it is Skein-1024 to Keccak-1600 to produce an SK-1024 bit hash [of 1024 bit output length]. Keccak-1600 was the winner overall, where Skein-1024 made it to the last round [the top 5]. Since Keccak-1600 is a sponge function, it works quite well by "absorbing" the Skein-1024 hash then "squeezing" it into a 1024 bit hexadecimal string.


Example SHA3 [SK-1024] Hash:
000006c258cd34fa401ec28eb3967ff4c2f05df1700d24bd68efb6bfec7763e5db168f6d2ebfdc7 402168d7a3a673cca8373fce15d990b6151a3be26a01cdcf142019805a0b838f0d12b5909cecd4e 15811d89d7e23f402601409f1542c8475a4d7e7a1d078fa406e87b58eb64460b4465c87ddab25f6 a74c61e779b0e9c50bd


Example SHA2 [SHA256] Hash [Bitcoin Standard]:
00000001f757bb737f6596503e17cd17b0658ce630cc727c0cca81aec47c9f06

~Videlicet


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Sinohe88 on July 11, 2014, 10:56:02 AM
Thank you everyone! I'll post some more details [of what you can do to help test] when I release the binaries. I will be sure to have some compiled for linux / windows.

The GPU algorithm should run cooler than [scrypt / scrypt-n], it is based off of top 5 SHA3 candidates [winner and runner up] which had to maintain a certain level of efficiency [x11 is just a combination of 11 SHA3 candidates]. I don't have any reasonable data to verify this, so keep in mind this is a [logical assumption] for now... I will be sure to post test data as soon as I have it.

~Videlicet
Thanks for reply
looking forward for more info on algorithm and it's miner


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Videlicet on July 11, 2014, 11:01:39 AM
Thanks for reply
looking forward for more info on algorithm and it's miner

+1 Since the Pre-Launch of this coin, it has really evolved from community involvement. I wouldn't have come to create SK-1024 without many great suggestions  :)

Thank you for your support,
~Videlicet


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Bombadil on July 11, 2014, 11:08:44 AM
Probably no miner at launch for Nvidia ^^" You should ask in the cudaminer thread, there are some new devs there who like bounties :P

EDIT: Oh, no premine :P That's new *cough* So no bounties he :P


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Videlicet on July 11, 2014, 11:17:30 AM
Probably no miner at launch for Nvidia ^^" You should ask in the cudaminer thread, there are some new devs there who like bounties :P

EDIT: Oh, no premine :P That's new *cough* So no bounties he :P

I will look into an Nvidia implementation

To point out, there is a developer fee you can see outlined in the OP on a per block basis [~2% total coin supply after 10 years] which could be used for such purposes. The reason for this is to protect the investments of holders against "dev dumps" [by developers having large % holdings] that usually come with pre-mines, but to still have available some of the positive attributes of a pre-mine [ex. bounties, costs, design, development, etc.].

~Videlicet


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: djm34 on July 11, 2014, 11:33:09 AM
Probably no miner at launch for Nvidia ^^" You should ask in the cudaminer thread, there are some new devs there who like bounties :P

EDIT: Oh, no premine :P That's new *cough* So no bounties he :P
that depends what you call bounties (freshcoin, I should have negotiated... however it was a lose-lose situation since there was already a gpuminer and rentals...) ;D

Actually this one could be interesting (but again with a gpu miner at launch, laziness tends to win knowing that porting to nvidia when a amd code exists (and vice versa) is rather a no brainer...) as there is no implementation of skein-1024 to sphlib so you need to actually read the code  ;D.





Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: BitSlapper on July 11, 2014, 02:36:01 PM
Are you kidding me ?
7/8

7/11

7/18

shit coin


Lol you're joking right?


He's implementing a new crypto algorithm for mining coins, currently by himself!

All of these coins you see that launch within 2 days of announcement are just copying code created by someone else and changing the block reward and logo's.

It's easy to copy work from someone else, it's not easy to come up with and implement original code.

Plus he's doing it pretty much for free. There's the 2% of each block over the course of the entire coin. So he only gets anything out of it if the coin does well for a long period of time.


If you aren't joking then please just go mine the next scam coin that comes out where a "dev" copied code and set aside a hidden premine or instamined and destroys the value of the coin as

soon as it gets launched on an exchange. Because that is obviously what you're looking for.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: billotronic on July 11, 2014, 05:39:28 PM
Are you kidding me ?
7/8

7/11

7/18

shit coin


Lol you're joking right?


He's implementing a new crypto algorithm for mining coins, currently by himself!

All of these coins you see that launch within 2 days of announcement are just copying code created by someone else and changing the block reward and logo's.

It's easy to copy work from someone else, it's not easy to come up with and implement original code.

Plus he's doing it pretty much for free. There's the 2% of each block over the course of the entire coin. So he only gets anything out of it if the coin does well for a long period of time.


If you aren't joking then please just go mine the next scam coin that comes out where a "dev" copied code and set aside a hidden premine or instamined and destroys the value of the coin as

soon as it gets launched on an exchange. Because that is obviously what you're looking for.

Hear hear to this!


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: TheVoodooDevil on July 11, 2014, 11:16:00 PM
It sounds like a cool idea, and has a great intention, but I don't see this ending well personally, though maybe I missed something. Please correct me if this is the case.

It seems to fly in the face of the concept of open markets, which is a major reason for bitcoin's success; and are investors really the right people to be deciding what is and isn't a shit coin?? This sounds like something that would be turned into a tool for pump+dumpers to me; Imagine - you make a shit coin, pump the hell out of it, dump it, buy back in, the shieldcoin community notices and finally gets around to voting this coin as a "shitcoin"
- at this point, the dumper is ready to move to shieldcoin, so not only do they get all their profit from pumping and dumping their "shit coin" (which is really subjective, at this point, bitcoin is a shit coin compared to many coins not taken seriously or valued, and joke coins like doge become legit successes. Who are we as investors, not devs, to make that decision?? many traders don't have the first idea why any of the coins work) Just imagine, for a moment, a bunch of greedy people with no technological knowledge voting on coins based on their innovations.

So basically what I'm saying is, this coin looks like something that would make shitcoins more profitable to churn out and pump, since it adds an extra layer of profit for the pumpers far more than it would for any bagholder. I believe mainstream adoption of decently developed coins will kill the real shitcoins, not making another coin and devoting it to hostility towards open markets. People make stupid choices in every market, it's not really up to anyone but yourself to stop that from happening. Trust me, I know it sucks to lose money on a trade, but this..??

...With a coin like this, I would finally have a reason to mine shitcoins!!! I didn't before. Should I be buying doge again? It does nothing, and is deemed the shittiest coin, yet it's been to nascar and saved starving childrens' lives. I really don't see how we could possibly play crypto-god in the way shield intends to, it is not our place to do such a thing. Is this some kind of crypto-government??


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: KryptoKash on July 12, 2014, 12:45:13 AM
It sounds like a cool idea, and has a great intention, but I don't see this ending well personally, though maybe I missed something. Please correct me if this is the case.

It seems to fly in the face of the concept of open markets, which is a major reason for bitcoin's success; and are investors really the right people to be deciding what is and isn't a shit coin?? This sounds like something that would be turned into a tool for pump+dumpers to me; Imagine - you make a shit coin, pump the hell out of it, dump it, buy back in, the shieldcoin community notices and finally gets around to voting this coin as a "shitcoin"
- at this point, the dumper is ready to move to shieldcoin, so not only do they get all their profit from pumping and dumping their "shit coin" (which is really subjective, at this point, bitcoin is a shit coin compared to many coins not taken seriously or valued, and joke coins like doge become legit successes. Who are we as investors, not devs, to make that decision?? many traders don't have the first idea why any of the coins work) Just imagine, for a moment, a bunch of greedy people with no technological knowledge voting on coins based on their innovations.

So basically what I'm saying is, this coin looks like something that would make shitcoins more profitable to churn out and pump, since it adds an extra layer of profit for the pumpers far more than it would for any bagholder. I believe mainstream adoption of decently developed coins will kill the real shitcoins, not making another coin and devoting it to hostility towards open markets. People make stupid choices in every market, it's not really up to anyone but yourself to stop that from happening. Trust me, I know it sucks to lose money on a trade, but this..??

...With a coin like this, I would finally have a reason to mine shitcoins!!! I didn't before. Should I be buying doge again? It does nothing, and is deemed the shittiest coin, yet it's been to nascar and saved starving childrens' lives. I really don't see how we could possibly play crypto-god in the way shield intends to, it is not our place to do such a thing. Is this some kind of crypto-government??


The Coinshield System is based on the voice of the entire community (not just investors). The goal is to get it to a point where shitcoin devs make NO profit from creating these coins - this will reduce future scams/clones. Once established, Coinshield will devalue the shitcoin's value before it has any shot at succeeding. Any pumpers / dumpers who attempt to pump that coin's price will have to do a lot more then simply raise its value to get more CSD. Our trade algorithm will look at several factors, a few of which have not been disclosed.

Now if someone chooses to pump the coin via community backing, then the shitcoin would never appear on our shitcoin list, and it will not get a trade channel opened (How could it if the community is pumping it and not voting against it?). If they do decide to try the impossible, it will take time, this would ensure with high probability that their "death filled bubble" will burst.

If someone attempts to pump the coin by themselves, they will be fighting the entire community who is dumping on their buy orders. This in turn will help the community by increasing Coinshields value. This will also cost the pumper a significant amount of BTC. If they manage to raise the price however so slightly, our trade algorithm will still not allow them to profit heavily. They will also be fighting the community who is exchanging the shitcoin for CSD (With each trade the next offer is lower then the previous).

This is not playing "Crypto God" because we do not have the choice of what lives or dies, it is everybody else that does. We are just here to protect and amplify the community's voice as it grows.



Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: TheVoodooDevil on July 12, 2014, 01:07:35 AM
Thanks for the response  ;D ; I think this answers all my questions. I'll be keeping an eye on this; probably will mine some soon - but I find it strange that pump/dumpers are finding this coin so appealing.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: yampi on July 12, 2014, 07:25:45 AM
It sounds like a cool idea, and has a great intention, but I don't see this ending well personally, though maybe I missed something. Please correct me if this is the case.

It seems to fly in the face of the concept of open markets, which is a major reason for bitcoin's success; and are investors really the right people to be deciding what is and isn't a shit coin?? This sounds like something that would be turned into a tool for pump+dumpers to me; Imagine - you make a shit coin, pump the hell out of it, dump it, buy back in, the shieldcoin community notices and finally gets around to voting this coin as a "shitcoin"
- at this point, the dumper is ready to move to shieldcoin, so not only do they get all their profit from pumping and dumping their "shit coin" (which is really subjective, at this point, bitcoin is a shit coin compared to many coins not taken seriously or valued, and joke coins like doge become legit successes. Who are we as investors, not devs, to make that decision?? many traders don't have the first idea why any of the coins work) Just imagine, for a moment, a bunch of greedy people with no technological knowledge voting on coins based on their innovations.

So basically what I'm saying is, this coin looks like something that would make shitcoins more profitable to churn out and pump, since it adds an extra layer of profit for the pumpers far more than it would for any bagholder. I believe mainstream adoption of decently developed coins will kill the real shitcoins, not making another coin and devoting it to hostility towards open markets. People make stupid choices in every market, it's not really up to anyone but yourself to stop that from happening. Trust me, I know it sucks to lose money on a trade, but this..??

...With a coin like this, I would finally have a reason to mine shitcoins!!! I didn't before. Should I be buying doge again? It does nothing, and is deemed the shittiest coin, yet it's been to nascar and saved starving childrens' lives. I really don't see how we could possibly play crypto-god in the way shield intends to, it is not our place to do such a thing. Is this some kind of crypto-government??


The Coinshield System is based on the voice of the entire community (not just investors). The goal is to get it to a point where shitcoin devs make NO profit from creating these coins - this will reduce future scams/clones. Once established, Coinshield will devalue the shitcoin's value before it has any shot at succeeding. Any pumpers / dumpers who attempt to pump that coin's price will have to do a lot more then simply raise its value to get more CSD. Our trade algorithm will look at several factors, a few of which have not been disclosed.

Now if someone chooses to pump the coin via community backing, then the shitcoin would never appear on our shitcoin list, and it will not get a trade channel opened (How could it if the community is pumping it and not voting against it?). If they do decide to try the impossible, it will take time, this would ensure with high probability that their "death filled bubble" will burst.

If someone attempts to pump the coin by themselves, they will be fighting the entire community who is dumping on their buy orders. This in turn will help the community by increasing Coinshields value. This will also cost the pumper a significant amount of BTC. If they manage to raise the price however so slightly, our trade algorithm will still not allow them to profit heavily. They will also be fighting the community who is exchanging the shitcoin for CSD (With each trade the next offer is lower then the previous).

This is not playing "Crypto God" because we do not have the choice of what lives or dies, it is everybody else that does. We are just here to protect and amplify the community's voice as it grows.



What if someone makes an altcoin with lots of promises of new innovations, %1 premine and IPO.
He can just disappear before releasing the said promises and the community would realise that they got scammed.
It would be listed as a shitcoin.
When trading channels to CSD opens he will dump the coins along with everyone he scammed and get profit.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: phzi on July 12, 2014, 08:40:32 AM
Block Reward [Developers]:1 * e^(-0.00000059 * nHeight * [Chain Time Modular]) + 0.04
And with that... this coin is dead to me.

Too bad, was a damn decent idea.  Sad to see it abused by another greedy developer.

I hope CoinShield is the first coin that this project tried to destroy, lol.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: armin22 on July 12, 2014, 08:41:03 AM
Block Reward [Developers]:1 * e^(-0.00000059 * nHeight * [Chain Time Modular]) + 0.04
And with that... this coin is dead to me.

Too bad, was a damn decent idea.  Sad to see it abused by another greedy developer.

You ignorant retard.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: phzi on July 12, 2014, 08:41:58 AM
Block Reward [Developers]:1 * e^(-0.00000059 * nHeight * [Chain Time Modular]) + 0.04
And with that... this coin is dead to me.

Too bad, was a damn decent idea.  Sad to see it abused by another greedy developer.

You ignorant retard.
What a well considered and thoughtful comment  :).  Your content for cryptoarticles.com must be seriously top notch with that quality of analysis and writing.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: armin22 on July 12, 2014, 08:42:56 AM
Block Reward [Developers]:1 * e^(-0.00000059 * nHeight * [Chain Time Modular]) + 0.04
And with that... this coin is dead to me.

Too bad, was a damn decent idea.  Sad to see it abused by another greedy developer.

You ignorant retard.
What a well considered and thoughtful comment  :).

Instead of being a little bitch, why dont you read this:


Lol you're joking right?


He's implementing a new crypto algorithm for mining coins, currently by himself!

All of these coins you see that launch within 2 days of announcement are just copying code created by someone else and changing the block reward and logo's.

It's easy to copy work from someone else, it's not easy to come up with and implement original code.

Plus he's doing it pretty much for free. There's the 2% of each block over the course of the entire coin. So he only gets anything out of it if the coin does well for a long period of time.


If you aren't joking then please just go mine the next scam coin that comes out where a "dev" copied code and set aside a hidden premine or instamined and destroys the value of the coin as

soon as it gets launched on an exchange. Because that is obviously what you're looking for.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Videlicet on July 12, 2014, 09:32:00 AM
It sounds like a cool idea, and has a great intention, but I don't see this ending well personally, though maybe I missed something. Please correct me if this is the case.

It seems to fly in the face of the concept of open markets, which is a major reason for bitcoin's success; and are investors really the right people to be deciding what is and isn't a shit coin?? This sounds like something that would be turned into a tool for pump+dumpers to me; Imagine - you make a shit coin, pump the hell out of it, dump it, buy back in, the shieldcoin community notices and finally gets around to voting this coin as a "shitcoin"
- at this point, the dumper is ready to move to shieldcoin, so not only do they get all their profit from pumping and dumping their "shit coin" (which is really subjective, at this point, bitcoin is a shit coin compared to many coins not taken seriously or valued, and joke coins like doge become legit successes. Who are we as investors, not devs, to make that decision?? many traders don't have the first idea why any of the coins work) Just imagine, for a moment, a bunch of greedy people with no technological knowledge voting on coins based on their innovations.

So basically what I'm saying is, this coin looks like something that would make shitcoins more profitable to churn out and pump, since it adds an extra layer of profit for the pumpers far more than it would for any bagholder. I believe mainstream adoption of decently developed coins will kill the real shitcoins, not making another coin and devoting it to hostility towards open markets. People make stupid choices in every market, it's not really up to anyone but yourself to stop that from happening. Trust me, I know it sucks to lose money on a trade, but this..??

...With a coin like this, I would finally have a reason to mine shitcoins!!! I didn't before. Should I be buying doge again? It does nothing, and is deemed the shittiest coin, yet it's been to nascar and saved starving childrens' lives. I really don't see how we could possibly play crypto-god in the way shield intends to, it is not our place to do such a thing. Is this some kind of crypto-government??


The Coinshield System is based on the voice of the entire community (not just investors). The goal is to get it to a point where shitcoin devs make NO profit from creating these coins - this will reduce future scams/clones. Once established, Coinshield will devalue the shitcoin's value before it has any shot at succeeding. Any pumpers / dumpers who attempt to pump that coin's price will have to do a lot more then simply raise its value to get more CSD. Our trade algorithm will look at several factors, a few of which have not been disclosed.

Now if someone chooses to pump the coin via community backing, then the shitcoin would never appear on our shitcoin list, and it will not get a trade channel opened (How could it if the community is pumping it and not voting against it?). If they do decide to try the impossible, it will take time, this would ensure with high probability that their "death filled bubble" will burst.

If someone attempts to pump the coin by themselves, they will be fighting the entire community who is dumping on their buy orders. This in turn will help the community by increasing Coinshields value. This will also cost the pumper a significant amount of BTC. If they manage to raise the price however so slightly, our trade algorithm will still not allow them to profit heavily. They will also be fighting the community who is exchanging the shitcoin for CSD (With each trade the next offer is lower then the previous).

This is not playing "Crypto God" because we do not have the choice of what lives or dies, it is everybody else that does. We are just here to protect and amplify the community's voice as it grows.



What if someone makes an altcoin with lots of promises of new innovations, %1 premine and IPO.
He can just disappear before releasing the said promises and the community would realise that they got scammed.
It would be listed as a shitcoin.
When trading channels to CSD opens he will dump the coins along with everyone he scammed and get profit.

One layer of security against such an act would be a general "standard" that is a shared consensus among the community. People of the community then have the choice to agree and set standards on what is acceptable, and what is not. This would be the time to formulate defenses against your above mentioned act [wait to see code before IPO, avoid premines, etc.]. This understood as a general consensus, would make such a scam impossible.

~Videlicet


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: mumus on July 12, 2014, 11:07:42 AM
Videlicet, I am happy to see a knowledgeable developer putting in so much hard work.

But I am worried about QA, with so much innovation and new code coming from a single source, there must be bugs. What is the QA process, who are the testers?

I do not mean to discourage the effort at all, or anything negative, rather to encourage this to go smoothly for you, since you have put so much hard work in to the project.

It is currently just [me] testing [with many computers], this is one reason I have been pushing the launch back [I need to ensure that the code is stable].

Anyone is welcome to help test, I'm actually thinking of releasing some binaries with a Unifed Time Lock set to 7/18/14 12:00 PM, so that we can test it on a testnet before launch. Either way this will keep people from producing any blocks on main net until launch time, to allow the binaries to be released before launch [this makes the process much easier on everyone]  :)


Thank You,
~Videlicet

I would be interested to participate in some testing.

Thank You, what operating system would you be able to test with?

~Videlicet

I used to develop mainly under windows but I'm familiar with both windows and linux environment.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: billotronic on July 12, 2014, 01:24:28 PM
Block Reward [Developers]:1 * e^(-0.00000059 * nHeight * [Chain Time Modular]) + 0.04
And with that... this coin is dead to me.

Too bad, was a damn decent idea.  Sad to see it abused by another greedy developer.

I hope CoinShield is the first coin that this project tried to destroy, lol.

I hear ya on that BUT this sort of method of dev compensation is actually kinda interesting since its more of a commission in the way that if the project does not succeed the dev gets shit. Still, you want to push that to the extreme and you could easily say a good dev team with a good project would still profit without an ipo/premine/etc.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: coinsolidation on July 12, 2014, 02:33:50 PM
Block Reward [Developers]:1 * e^(-0.00000059 * nHeight * [Chain Time Modular]) + 0.04
And with that... this coin is dead to me.

Too bad, was a damn decent idea.  Sad to see it abused by another greedy developer.

I hope CoinShield is the first coin that this project tried to destroy, lol.

I checked this at length earlier in the project, here is how it works out (1.6-2.7% which averages to about 2% over all) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=657601.msg7409023#msg7409023


you could easily say a good dev team with a good project would still profit without an ipo/premine/etc.

Exactly, we have worked out a model that requires no taxation, premine, ipo, instamine or anything of the kind for Bitmark, discussed it at length and adopted it. There are other ways.

We could not implement taxation as it would break compatibility with existing software which we cannot do on our own project, so had to abandon it.

However CoinSheild does not have this problem as it is innovation focused with no backwards compatibility to be concerned with, so taxation will work here.

I personally feel sub 1% (0.25% even) would be better, but 2% is not so bad, and if it does not become hugely successful there is nothing at stake, value will be earned here through hard work which is the most important thing.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: bitsurfer2014 on July 12, 2014, 03:41:37 PM
Wow...this coin has the potential to change the cryptocurrency landscape!


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: CryptoBull on July 12, 2014, 04:55:07 PM
hi there fellas, can you tell me how to mine this coin because i don't see in the OP :(


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: armin22 on July 12, 2014, 05:14:13 PM
hi there fellas, can you tell me how to mine this coin because i don't see in the OP :(


You're gonna have to wait until the coin is released my friend :)


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: CryptoBull on July 12, 2014, 05:18:46 PM
hi there fellas, can you tell me how to mine this coin because i don't see in the OP :(


You're gonna have to wait until the coin is released my friend :)
A ok man sorry :D i thought it was released :)
When is the release date and hour do you know ?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: armin22 on July 12, 2014, 05:19:32 PM
hi there fellas, can you tell me how to mine this coin because i don't see in the OP :(


You're gonna have to wait until the coin is released my friend :)
A ok man sorry :D i thought it was released :)
When is the release date and hour do you know ?

"7/18"


6 days from now :P


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: CryptoBull on July 12, 2014, 05:25:06 PM
oooo cool man thank you very much waiting for this good project to happen sick and tired from p/d schemes  :-\
I will be here waiting and watching the thread for news  8)
Have a great evening ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Bitdonator on July 13, 2014, 12:49:22 PM
Can we expect wallet for Android?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Videlicet on July 13, 2014, 02:12:17 PM
Can we expect wallet for Android?

Yes, but not at launch. This will be of a lower priority compared to other components [exchange / voting channels, coinshield core, etc.].

~Videlicet


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Videlicet on July 14, 2014, 07:18:27 PM
Here is an [update] of current [progress]:

1. All major systems coded and implemented in Coinshield Core [clearing up last few bugs / tuning the engine]
2. Upgrading elliptical private/public key system in wallet to 1024 bits [in-process, private key output is 1024 bits, adjusting curve group to have larger modulation than NID_secp256k1]
3. Finally had time [while testing] to work on Qt, got it up to par. I will be doing more development on this post-launch.
4. [in-process] of developing RPC client to handle GetBlockTemplate for external CPU / GPU while [BitSlapper is working on GPU kernal, everyone give him a Big Thank You for offering his help].

My CPU hashrate for SK-1024 is about 50 kh/s per core.
It looks like we will be ready for public testing quite soon.

~Videlicet

edit: slight reformatting


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: coinsolidation on July 15, 2014, 07:26:42 PM
Good work Videlicet, I look forward to testing your code.

Which CPU are you using?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Videlicet on July 15, 2014, 09:45:42 PM
Good work Videlicet, I look forward to testing your code.

Which CPU are you using?

Intel Pentium G3220 @ 3Ghz

~Videlicet


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: smackii on July 15, 2014, 09:56:47 PM
Mineable only by CPU?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Videlicet on July 15, 2014, 10:00:25 PM
Mineable only by CPU?

There is an SK-1024 GPU channel, and Prime Number CPU channel.

~Videlicet



Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: GoldenUnity on July 16, 2014, 08:20:22 AM
I'm not going to be able to rental mine this am I?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: bigreddmachine on July 16, 2014, 12:26:05 PM
Hi, I just wanted to say... very early on I was quite critical of this project (and I still have qualms about the concept) but I must say that I am impressed with the amount of development that you have put into this coin.  I hope that you are able to have a successful launch and do some good for the altcoin community.  Please remember the little guys when you launch, and be thorough before deciding to take out a coin!

- BRM


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Videlicet on July 16, 2014, 04:32:39 PM
I'm not going to be able to rental mine this am I?

Yes, I do believe you are correct.

Hi, I just wanted to say... very early on I was quite critical of this project (and I still have qualms about the concept) but I must say that I am impressed with the amount of development that you have put into this coin.  I hope that you are able to have a successful launch and do some good for the altcoin community.  Please remember the little guys when you launch, and be thorough before deciding to take out a coin!

- BRM

I appreciate the support. The way I see it is - if I'm going to take the stance of quality, I better put in the hard work to back it up. I'm sure over time this idea will continually be refined to prevent manipulation as with any new system. Unfortunately sometimes the only way to discover [and prevent] such things is through the experience of them.

My ultimate goal here, is to convey to everyone that we can change the way things are by working together. I personally believe the way to unite the people is through a cause they all can have a part in - the direction. I hope that my hard work here, will encourage other developers to work hard on their projects to really produce unique and useful coins. This will help the public adoption of cryptocurrencies by improving the quality [and image] of the marketplace.

Thank You,
~Videlicet

edit: slight reformatting


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: coinsolidation on July 16, 2014, 07:31:08 PM
Videlicet,

I would like to tip you with 80 Bitmarks out of respect for your hard work and approach to the development of, and communication about, your CoinShield project.

This represents 4 full blocks and is 1/3rd of the coins I own, hopefully one day it will serve to be of some value to you.

If you pass me a Bitmark address I will send you the coins.

Keep up the good work, innovation and hard work are to be admired.

Mark


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Videlicet on July 16, 2014, 07:45:01 PM
Videlicet,

I would like to tip you with 80 Bitmarks out of respect for your hard work and approach to the development of, and communication about, your CoinShield project.

This represents 4 full blocks and is 1/3rd of the coins I own, hopefully one day it will serve to be of some value to you.

If you pass me a Bitmark address I will send you the coins.

Keep up the good work, innovation and hard work are to be admired.

Mark

Wow, it is wonderful to know there are good people on this planet, Thank You Mark.

~Videlicet

I'll send you a PM


edit: to clarify our position concerning donations
By the nature of how Coinshield works, and the position we have taken, we are unable to accept donations. We hope everyone understands our responsibility to absolute non-bias, in order to make this system successful.



Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: cryptozim on July 17, 2014, 06:04:00 PM
edit: to clarify our position concerning donations
By the nature of how Coinshield works, and the position we have taken, we are unable to accept donations. We hope everyone understands our responsibility to absolute non-bias, in order to make this system successful.


Wait. Integrity? That's not how crypto works, is it?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: coinsolidation on July 17, 2014, 06:13:14 PM
edit: to clarify our position concerning donations
By the nature of how Coinshield works, and the position we have taken, we are unable to accept donations. We hope everyone understands our responsibility to absolute non-bias, in order to make this system successful.


Wait. Integrity? That's not how crypto works, is it?

I can confirm that he refused the BTM I offered also.

So I'll help him with early testing instead :)


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Videlicet on July 17, 2014, 06:30:08 PM
Development [Update] : Testnet launch [most likely today {edit: private testing in process} possibly tomorrow]. I am deciding for the last time, to give Coinshield the little extra time it needs for everything to be 100%. I hope everyone understands I keep extending the launch because there have been more things that needed tending. I am ensuring that I can be as thorough as possible, to get this done correctly [the first time]. Below you'll be able to read the list of how everything has finally settled, and what is still needing further development. Pending on how testing goes, Coinshield could launch in 2 days or 5 days. I hope to see some public involvement in the testing, to ensure the Coinshield Core is scrutinized from as many angles as possible. This way I can tend to any issues that may arise, so they do not become problems come launch time.

1. Fractional Rewarding - Finalized: Fractional Rewards are now based on excess created in block index. This allows Coinshield to break up excess into full rewards [~50 CSD]. This will distribute excess supply evenly to more miners, to have a more fair distribution. Due to the nature of the Fractional Excess System, if a miner manipulates their clock to the maximum allowed in Unified Time, they will create excess that will be given to other miners. This will prevent such an act.

2. Shield Target - Finalized: Shield target now works with the Fractional Excess system to deflate difficulty the moment there is excess. This helps the chain recover from long block times much more quickly. Currently fine tuning the parameters to ensure smoothest adjustments

3. CPU: Prime Channel - Finalized: Prime channel finds dense prime clusters off of an SK-1024 hash produced from nBits and hashMerkleRoot. The prime offset is determined by nNonce. This method prevents anyone from submitting just any prime, they would have to build a block and find the prime from the hash in order to successfully generate CSD. Difficulty is represented by a decimal value [ex. 1.5867] where the whole number is the cluster size, and the decimal is the fractional remainder of last composite in cluster. It runs about 1 PPS [Primes Per Second] and 600 SPS [Searches Per Second] per core and finds a cluster of difficulty 2.0 every 150 seconds.

4. GPU: SK-1024 - Miner: In-Process - Core Finalized: Normal methods of hashing, except miner has to hash 1024 bits, not 256 bits.

5. Json RPC Server - In-Process: Updating several commands such as "getmininginfo", "getblocktemplate", "submitblock". Adding commands such as "listprimes", "getprime <hash>", "getlastprime", "getlastblock <channel>". Everything else functions correctly in RPC server [as far as I've seen].

6. Private Keys - In-Process: Using largest curve group NID_sect571k1 or NID_sect571r1 to suit our needs quite well. This provides double the security compared to previous curves used [last issue is serialization from disk].

7. Coinshield-Qt - In-Process All major components work such as signing message, address generation, send transactions, etc. There were a couple issues that had to be resolved, but it is now fully functional. It is still in-process because it is "a little rough around the edges" in the sense of column default sizes being slightly off [because addresses before upgrade were 160 bit]

8. Unified Time - Semi-Finalized: Works perfectly for any node. Making small decisions as to how often unified time is checked for consistency or what the maximum allowable drift should be [to account for propagation time]. Unified Time updates seed from peers successfully if UTM seed goes down, adding other small layers of security such as preventing people from flooding network with a false time seed, or localized clock manipulators [check clock to itself, if it changes more that +- 60 seconds, add temporary offset until unified time is updated].

9. Proof of Stake - Semi-Finalized: Tuning the modifier time, split/combine ratio, yearly output.


I appreciate the continued support through the development of this project.
~Videlicet


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: IMJim on July 17, 2014, 08:42:08 PM
COOL!  I hope the launch gets delayed a few more days, have to go out of town this weekend and was upset I was going to miss the launch.....prob still will, but I can hope:-)


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: phzi on July 18, 2014, 12:54:37 AM
Nice to see the development evolving.

Hopeful we see the miner and a testnet-only client a while before launch?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Videlicet on July 18, 2014, 01:44:54 AM
Nice to see the development evolving.

Hopeful we see the miner and a testnet-only client a while before launch?

I just started a round of private testing, based on results I will release a testnet only client for everyone to hop on. After client is deemed stable, I will then release main net binaries with a time-lock for a set launch time. This will let everyone get setup before launch. Finally, I will release the source code at launch [I am keeping it private until launch to protect the time-lock].

As for the miner It is in process and yes will be released before launch. Bitslapper is handling the GPU kernal and making progress, which is greatly speeding up the process.

I'll keep everyone posted on future progress,

~Videlicet


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Superxfast on July 18, 2014, 01:57:44 AM
Development [Update] : Testnet launch [most likely today {edit: private testing in process} possibly tomorrow]. I am deciding for the last time, to give Coinshield the little extra time it needs for everything to be 100%. I hope everyone understands I keep extending the launch because there have been more things that needed tending. I am ensuring that I can be as thorough as possible, to get this done correctly [the first time]. Below you'll be able to read the list of how everything has finally settled, and what is still needing further development. Pending on how testing goes, Coinshield could launch in 2 days or 5 days. I hope to see some public involvement in the testing, to ensure the Coinshield Core is scrutinized from as many angles as possible. This way I can tend to any issues that may arise, so they do not become problems come launch time.

1. Fractional Rewarding - Finalized: Fractional Rewards are now based on excess created in block index. This allows Coinshield to break up excess into full rewards [~50 CSD]. This will distribute excess supply evenly to more miners, to have a more fair distribution. Due to the nature of the Fractional Excess System, if a miner manipulates their clock to the maximum allowed in Unified Time, they will create excess that will be given to other miners. This will prevent such an act.

2. Shield Target - Finalized: Shield target now works with the Fractional Excess system to deflate difficulty the moment there is excess. This helps the chain recover from long block times much more quickly. Currently fine tuning the parameters to ensure smoothest adjustments

3. CPU: Prime Channel - Finalized: Prime channel finds dense prime clusters off of an SK-1024 hash produced from nBits and hashMerkleRoot. The prime offset is determined by nNonce. This method prevents anyone from submitting just any prime, they would have to build a block and find the prime from the hash in order to successfully generate CSD. Difficulty is represented by a decimal value [ex. 1.5867] where the whole number is the cluster size, and the decimal is the fractional remainder of last composite in cluster. It runs about 1 PPS [Primes Per Second] and 600 SPS [Searches Per Second] per core and finds a cluster of difficulty 2.0 every 150 seconds.

4. GPU: SK-1024 - Miner: In-Process - Core Finalized: Normal methods of hashing, except miner has to hash 1024 bits, not 256 bits.

5. Json RPC Server - In-Process: Updating several commands such as "getmininginfo", "getblocktemplate", "submitblock". Adding commands such as "listprimes", "getprime <hash>", "getlastprime", "getlastblock <channel>". Everything else functions correctly in RPC server [as far as I've seen].

6. Private Keys - In-Process: Using largest curve group NID_sect571k1 or NID_sect571r1 to suit our needs quite well. This provides double the security compared to previous curves used [last issue is serialization from disk].

7. Coinshield-Qt - In-Process All major components work such as signing message, address generation, send transactions, etc. There were a couple issues that had to be resolved, but it is now fully functional. It is still in-process because it is "a little rough around the edges" in the sense of column default sizes being slightly off [because addresses before upgrade were 160 bit]

8. Unified Time - Semi-Finalized: Works perfectly for any node. Making small decisions as to how often unified time is checked for consistency or what the maximum allowable drift should be [to account for propagation time]. Unified Time updates seed from peers successfully if UTM seed goes down, adding other small layers of security such as preventing people from flooding network with a false time seed, or localized clock manipulators [check clock to itself, if it changes more that +- 60 seconds, add temporary offset until unified time is updated].

9. Proof of Stake - Semi-Finalized: Tuning the modifier time, split/combine ratio, yearly output.


I appreciate the continued support through the development of this project.
~Videlicet


No problem, many servers still wait to test for you.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: IMJim on July 18, 2014, 02:00:39 AM
Well.......looks like I am def gonna miss the launch, but wanted to wish you all well with it!


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Videlicet on July 18, 2014, 02:04:58 AM
Well.......looks like I am def gonna miss the launch, but wanted to wish you all well with it!

What day will you be able to make the launch?

No problem, many servers still wait to test for you.

I sent you a PM earlier today, check your inbox.

~Videlicet


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: IMJim on July 18, 2014, 02:10:43 AM
Well.......looks like I am def gonna miss the launch, but wanted to wish you all well with it!

What day will you be able to make the launch?

No problem, many servers still wait to test for you.

I sent you a PM earlier today, check your inbox.

~Videlicet

That's strange brother, definitely did not get a PM from you.......just double checked and nothing from you there. 

Will be leaving town tomorrow around noon pacific, back on Sunday....probably in the evening.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Videlicet on July 18, 2014, 02:16:11 AM
Well.......looks like I am def gonna miss the launch, but wanted to wish you all well with it!

What day will you be able to make the launch?

No problem, many servers still wait to test for you.

I sent you a PM earlier today, check your inbox.

~Videlicet

That's strange brother, definitely did not get a PM from you.......just double checked and nothing from you there. 

Will be leaving town tomorrow around noon pacific, back on Sunday....probably in the evening.

The PM was in response to Superxfast  :P

As for launch post Sunday, that's not a problem [wouldn't want you to miss out]. As I see it too, more testing = more stability

~Videlicet


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: phzi on July 18, 2014, 03:50:21 AM
Nice to see the development evolving.

Hopeful we see the miner and a testnet-only client a while before launch?

I just started a round of private testing, based on results I will release a testnet only client for everyone to hop on. After client is deemed stable, I will then release main net binaries with a time-lock for a set launch time. This will let everyone get setup before launch. Finally, I will release the source code at launch [I am keeping it private until launch to protect the time-lock].

As for the miner It is in process and yes will be released before launch. Bitslapper is handling the GPU kernal and making progress, which is greatly speeding up the process.

I'll keep everyone posted on future progress,

~Videlicet
If you pull this off, this will be the fairest coin launch since Litecoin.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Videlicet on July 18, 2014, 03:54:59 AM
Nice to see the development evolving.

Hopeful we see the miner and a testnet-only client a while before launch?

I just started a round of private testing, based on results I will release a testnet only client for everyone to hop on. After client is deemed stable, I will then release main net binaries with a time-lock for a set launch time. This will let everyone get setup before launch. Finally, I will release the source code at launch [I am keeping it private until launch to protect the time-lock].

As for the miner It is in process and yes will be released before launch. Bitslapper is handling the GPU kernal and making progress, which is greatly speeding up the process.

I'll keep everyone posted on future progress,

~Videlicet
If you pull this off, this will be the fairest coin launch since Litecoin.

It is only a matter of time, my friend.

~Videlicet


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: SnjafSnjaf on July 18, 2014, 08:17:31 AM
So, it is starting today?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: KryptoKash on July 18, 2014, 08:42:16 AM
So, it is starting today?
We are currently testing. A new and final launch date will be announced in the next few days (pending test results). This is the plan for launch:


I just started a round of private testing, based on results I will release a testnet only client for everyone to hop on. After client is deemed stable, I will then release main net binaries with a time-lock for a set launch time. This will let everyone get setup before launch. Finally, I will release the source code at launch [I am keeping it private until launch to protect the time-lock].

As for the miner It is in process and yes will be released before launch. Bitslapper is handling the GPU kernal and making progress, which is greatly speeding up the process.

I'll keep everyone posted on future progress,

~Videlicet


 If you would like to help test Videlicet will be releasing a testnet only client tomorrow. Please check the thread regularly for the new launch date.

~KryptoKash


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: merc84 on July 18, 2014, 09:06:09 AM
SK-1024 (New GPU Mining Algorithm)
Skein-1024 will be hashed to Keccak-1600 to produce an SK-1024 hash.


Prime Search (New CPU Mining Algorithm)
 This was created for the betterment of Mathematics and Number Theory. CPU miner will look for dense prime number clusters from a 1024 bit hash (~308 digits). This will help in the proving / disproving of The Twin Prime Conjecture, Polignac's Conjecture, and The Hardy-Littlewood Conjecture.

Sadly new algo usually mean poor stock miner for public and highly optimized private miners for dev's and anyone with deep enough pockets to buy optimized miners, which does not help distribution of coins at all. I'd like to be proved wrong...


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Sinohe88 on July 18, 2014, 09:28:59 AM
Sadly new algo usually mean poor stock miner for public and highly optimized private miners for dev's and anyone with deep enough pockets to buy optimized miners, which does not help distribution of coins at all. I'd like to be proved wrong...
as far as i know there is no gpu miner yet and they are working to make one
it's about the trust, you can trust the dev team and accept what they are telling/offering you or not
nobody can prove that you are wrong or right
it's your choice to make, do trust or don't


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: merc84 on July 18, 2014, 10:02:01 AM
Sadly new algo usually mean poor stock miner for public and highly optimized private miners for dev's and anyone with deep enough pockets to buy optimized miners, which does not help distribution of coins at all. I'd like to be proved wrong...
as far as i know there is no gpu miner yet and they are working to make one
it's about the trust, you can trust the dev team and accept what they are telling/offering you or not
nobody can prove that you are wrong or right
it's your choice to make, do trust or don't

I should clarify by dev i do not implicitly mean coin dev, there are a number of devs who could easily optimize the public code upon release.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: djm34 on July 18, 2014, 10:31:31 AM
SK-1024 (New GPU Mining Algorithm)
Skein-1024 will be hashed to Keccak-1600 to produce an SK-1024 hash.


Prime Search (New CPU Mining Algorithm)
 This was created for the betterment of Mathematics and Number Theory. CPU miner will look for dense prime number clusters from a 1024 bit hash (~308 digits). This will help in the proving / disproving of The Twin Prime Conjecture, Polignac's Conjecture, and The Hardy-Littlewood Conjecture.

Sadly new algo usually mean poor stock miner for public and highly optimized private miners for dev's and anyone with deep enough pockets to buy optimized miners, which does not help distribution of coins at all. I'd like to be proved wrong...
I search an optimized miner for nvidia (I pay I decide what I want  ;D),
can you tell me where I can buy one ?  ;D


However, I don't see the interest is releasing a coin which does both prime numbers (not quite cpu only, it is or will be gpu for 5-10% fee to claymore or anybody else) and a new algo for gpu...
This will be a problem as a few will rape the "cpu" channel with gpu's too and making a killing compared to anyone running on the "gpu" channel.

This clearly the part I don't understand in your plan. This primenumber things shouldn't even be here as the sk1024 is interesting enough by itself. For me, this just look like a back-door for making fast profit...





by the way when does it launch ?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Sinohe88 on July 18, 2014, 10:53:00 AM
Sadly new algo usually mean poor stock miner for public and highly optimized private miners for dev's and anyone with deep enough pockets to buy optimized miners, which does not help distribution of coins at all. I'd like to be proved wrong...
as far as i know there is no gpu miner yet and they are working to make one
it's about the trust, you can trust the dev team and accept what they are telling/offering you or not
nobody can prove that you are wrong or right
it's your choice to make, do trust or don't

I should clarify by dev i do not implicitly mean coin dev, there are a number of devs who could easily optimize the public code upon release.
yes, agree, but it's for existing algorithm like scrypt, X11 ... etc, not this one


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: cwrmyy888 on July 18, 2014, 12:23:56 PM
My friend !I want to test ;D,how ?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: SRBOOTH on July 18, 2014, 01:10:35 PM
I am interested in testing..........please pm or post.........thank you


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Videlicet on July 18, 2014, 02:35:04 PM
edit: private testing is going well, proof of stake just kicked in, and everything is running smoothly. I am noticing the Coin Supply is deflated about 92% of target, this will be something I tend to on the next round of tests. [we want about 99.5% - 100.5 % ideally]. Current transaction confirmation time is ~ 3 minutes at a constant rate of 1 tx per second.

The prime number channel should be "very" difficult to port to a GPU currently [it is totally different than primecoin], but of course it can have the possibility of getting mined by GPU's. If this happens, there can always be modifications to the algorithms to continue to prevent such things. The same goes for SK-1024 and ASICS, the best defense against "hardware wars" is to change your software slightly every X period of time, and this will make any sort of specialized hardware useless.

Remember, there is always a crack, that's how the light gets in. Sometimes all we can do is make a crack very expensive.
~Videlicet


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Videlicet on July 19, 2014, 09:59:47 PM
Started Round 2 of Private Testing...

Changes in Round 2 [DONE]:
+GPU/CPU miners fixed after conflict with POS blocks
+Updated Fractional Excess System to improve margin of error [was lingering around 10%]
+Updated Difficulty to reduce the Maximum % increase. This should help keep block times more consistent
+Updated Protocol Version, will reject Round 1 Test binaries.
+Added transaction emulator.exe in package to test a large transaction load on the network.


Changes in Qt [TODO LIST]:
+Noticed Qt doesn't react very well to high transaction load [it becomes very choppy]. Need to improve the multithreading capabilities, having GUI refreshed on its own thread.
+Transactions take a long time to send if there are many inputs [from a lot of fractional rewards], this needs to be optimized further to prevent GUI threadlock.


Currently Coin Supply is at 99.948199% [~0.051801 % margin of error]. This is a great improvement from testing Round 1.


edit: Here is some data from my supply utility for anyone interested
target supply after 182 minutes = 11470.817850
actual supply after 182 minutes = 11441
supply percentage 99.740055 %

target supply after 200 minutes = 12605.184394
actual supply after 200 minutes = 12566
supply percentage 99.689141 %

target supply after 213 minutes = 13424.436812
actual supply after 213 minutes = 13480
supply percentage 100.413896 %

target supply after 218 minutes = 13739.531148
actual supply after 218 minutes = 13784
supply percentage 100.323656 %

target supply after 246 minutes = 15504.031210
actual supply after 246 minutes = 15496
supply percentage 99.948199 %

target supply after 267 minutes = 16827.374834
actual supply after 267 minutes = 16764
supply percentage 99.623383 %

target supply after 270 minutes = 17016.421725
actual supply after 270 minutes = 17004
supply percentage 99.927002 %

target supply after 319 minutes = 20104.109798
actual supply after 319 minutes = 19980
supply percentage 99.382665 %

target supply after 332 minutes = 20923.267737
actual supply after 332 minutes = 20747
supply percentage 99.157552 %

target supply after 334 minutes = 21049.291119
actual supply after 334 minutes = 20910
supply percentage 99.338262 %


~Viz


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: iwzsce on July 20, 2014, 09:32:32 AM
ASIC resistant? lower power? Can anyone tell me?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: phzi on July 20, 2014, 04:18:38 PM
ASIC resistant? lower power? Can anyone tell me?
There won't be ASICs available promptly, so I would call that ASIC resistant, sure.

Lower power is essentially a myth - only under-optimized GPU mining software uses less power (at least, to any noticeable margin).


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: KryptoKash on July 20, 2014, 07:22:27 PM
Reserve your username, Sign up now prelaunch: http://coinshieldtalk.org  :)


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: gjhiggins on July 20, 2014, 07:52:17 PM
Reserve your username, Sign up now prelaunch: http://coinshieldtalk.org  :)

http://coinshieldtalk.org/forum/coin-shield-talk/shitcoin-petitions/105-digitalcommerce

That's a brilliant start; cogent, articulate, with a wealth of supporting proof. It's exactly the kind of the persuasive and constructive discussion that you were so confidently expecting.


And the reality is exactly what I was expecting.

Sadly,

Graham




Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: KryptoKash on July 20, 2014, 08:05:17 PM
Reserve your username, Sign up now prelaunch: http://coinshieldtalk.org  :)

http://coinshieldtalk.org/forum/coin-shield-talk/shitcoin-petitions/105-digitalcommerce

That's a brilliant start; cogent, articulate, with a wealth of supporting proof. It's exactly the kind of the persuasive and constructive discussion that you were so confidently expecting.


And the reality is exactly what I was expecting.

Sadly,

Graham





I don't expect petitions like those to gain any momentum. After a few petitions are approved there will be examples/templates for users to follow. 


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: evtrmm on July 20, 2014, 08:13:41 PM
need a coinshield store - purchase products with any coin instead of just paying in Coinshield coins.  Would have basically same function but would allow for profit to continually grow the product. 

"I bought lousy shit/scam coins and all I got was this stupid Tshirt"

just an idea.  I like the idea of the project though.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: balu2 on July 22, 2014, 05:09:43 AM
so this is basically deletecoin with a different ann, right?
Deletecoin ended up being a fail and a shitcoin itself. I can't see why this should play out any different than deletecoin.
This coin has only advantage over deletecoin of no premine. Correct me if i am wrong.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=511880.0



Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Videlicet on July 22, 2014, 05:45:12 AM
so this is basically deletecoin with a different ann, right?
Deletecoin ended up being a fail and a shitcoin itself. I can't see why this should play out any different than deletecoin.
This coin has only advantage over deletecoin of no premine. Correct me if i am wrong.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=511880.0



Deletecoin burned shitcoins, this adds to their value [we will be dumping]. It was a shitcoin yes, because the developer didn't expend the effort required to make a worthwhile coin, we have.

~Viz

edit: it seems though, that their new deletecoin 2.0 took the idea from Coinshield with the dumping... curious


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: phzi on July 22, 2014, 07:53:43 AM
so this is basically deletecoin with a different ann, right?
Deletecoin ended up being a fail and a shitcoin itself. I can't see why this should play out any different than deletecoin.
This coin has only advantage over deletecoin of no premine. Correct me if i am wrong.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=511880.0



Deletecoin burned shitcoins, this adds to their value [we will be dumping]. It was a shitcoin yes, because the developer didn't expend the effort required to make a worthwhile coin, we have.

~Viz

edit: it seems though, that their new deletecoin 2.0 took the idea from Coinshield with the dumping... curious
I think balu2 ignored (or didn't bother to read about) the huge and unique innovations that CoinShield is going to offer...

The anti-timewarp mechanism alone is revolutionary, I would argue.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: gjhiggins on July 22, 2014, 10:49:11 AM
It was a shitcoin yes, because the developer didn't expend the effort required to make a worthwhile coin, we have.

Why do you persist in embarrassing yourself? “the developer didn't expend the effort required to make a worthwhile coin” - that's completely bogus. You have no means of demonstrating the accuracy of that conjecture, let alone its relevance. The choice of fabrication hints strongly at narrow-minded, thoughtless intolerance.

Great programming skills, dangerously weak elsewhere. You should start to challenge your prejudices before they start to challenge you.

Despondently,

Graham


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: armin22 on July 22, 2014, 11:46:28 AM
It was a shitcoin yes, because the developer didn't expend the effort required to make a worthwhile coin, we have.

Why do you persist in embarrassing yourself? “the developer didn't expend the effort required to make a worthwhile coin” - that's completely bogus. You have no means of demonstrating the accuracy of that conjecture, let alone its relevance. The choice of fabrication hints strongly at narrow-minded, thoughtless intolerance.

Great programming skills, dangerously weak elsewhere. You should start to challenge your prejudices before they start to challenge you.

Despondently,

Graham

Lol,  someone is using big words to give an impression of intellect.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: tamdc on July 22, 2014, 12:51:33 PM
Can I mine this coin with GPU? If can, where can I find the miner?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: armin22 on July 22, 2014, 12:58:55 PM
Can I mine this coin with GPU? If can, where can I find the miner?


If i read right,  the miner will be released on the coins launch.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: KryptoKash on July 22, 2014, 01:19:19 PM
Can I mine this coin with GPU? If can, where can I find the miner?


If i read right,  the miner will be released on the coins launch.

The GPU miner will be released as soon as it is done being coded. BitSlapper is currently coding it for the community. :-)



Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: SRBOOTH on July 22, 2014, 05:02:59 PM
Can I mine this coin with GPU? If can, where can I find the miner?


If i read right,  the miner will be released on the coins launch.

The GPU miner will be released as soon as it is done being coded. BitSlapper is currently coding it for the community. :-)



Can you tell us if there will be Nvidia support re: GPU miner?...thanks....this looks like good work, signed up/in follwing all the way!


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Videlicet on July 22, 2014, 05:33:24 PM
It was a shitcoin yes, because the developer didn't expend the effort required to make a worthwhile coin, we have.

Why do you persist in embarrassing yourself? “the developer didn't expend the effort required to make a worthwhile coin” - that's completely bogus. You have no means of demonstrating the accuracy of that conjecture, let alone its relevance. The choice of fabrication hints strongly at narrow-minded, thoughtless intolerance.

Great programming skills, dangerously weak elsewhere. You should start to challenge your prejudices before they start to challenge you.

Despondently,

Graham


Yes, I do stand corrected [I was wondering if anyone would catch this]. I noticed the weakness of my conjecture after doing more reading after my posted assumption.

edit: and from my findings, the deletecoin developer had a few friends develop the coin while they were layed off, so he was not the actual programmer. Here is his post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=511880.msg6525660#msg6525660)

Thanks Graham,
~Viz


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: BitSlapper on July 22, 2014, 06:08:42 PM
Can I mine this coin with GPU? If can, where can I find the miner?


If i read right,  the miner will be released on the coins launch.

The GPU miner will be released as soon as it is done being coded. BitSlapper is currently coding it for the community. :-)



Can you tell us if there will be Nvidia support re: GPU miner?...thanks....this looks like good work, signed up/in follwing all the way!

Hi, I'm coding the GPU miner.

I'm currently working on the AMD version of it. Once it's fully tested and ready for public use then I'd be happy to look into integrating NVIDIA support.

I currently own many different AMD cards but no NVIDIA ones. I might be able to borrow a 650 ti from a friend, or sell a couple of R9 270's, once I'm ready to look into it.

If there are any experienced CUDA developers, or anyone with good programming skills, that would be interested in helping then you should contact Videlicet.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: skunk on July 22, 2014, 07:17:13 PM
Can I mine this coin with GPU? If can, where can I find the miner?


If i read right,  the miner will be released on the coins launch.

The GPU miner will be released as soon as it is done being coded. BitSlapper is currently coding it for the community. :-)



Can you tell us if there will be Nvidia support re: GPU miner?...thanks....this looks like good work, signed up/in follwing all the way!

Hi, I'm coding the GPU miner.

I'm currently working on the AMD version of it. Once it's fully tested and ready for public use then I'd be happy to look into integrating NVIDIA support.

I currently own many different AMD cards but no NVIDIA ones. I might be able to borrow a 650 ti from a friend, or sell a couple of R9 270's, once I'm ready to look into it.

If there are any experienced CUDA developers, or anyone with good programming skills, that would be interested in helping then you should contact Videlicet.
just post here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=167229.0)...


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: BitPla.net on July 22, 2014, 08:29:29 PM
Launch date?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: phzi on July 22, 2014, 08:32:47 PM
Launch date?
After testing and the CL miner is complete.  Private testing is underway now.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: KryptoKash on July 23, 2014, 08:06:07 AM
Launch date?
After testing and the CL miner is complete.  Private testing is underway now.
We will give at least a 4 day notice, so please subscribe to this thread and keep checking. We are hoping to launch before the end of the month, however it all depends how testing goes. So far Videlicet is making progress thanks to everyone who is helping test. Keep up the great work. Public testing is next.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: gjhiggins on July 23, 2014, 04:14:18 PM
Yes, I do stand corrected

Solid work. My respect for you has just shot up immeasurably. I've made my point, I'll rest my case.


Cheers

Graham


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Videlicet on July 23, 2014, 08:11:21 PM
Update [Almost There...]:

1. Finalizing Fractional Rewarding / Fractional Excess - Getting equations tuned to within 1% margin of error, still lingering around 1.5% [keep in mind it can take at least 12 hours to stray this far]. Currently in my present test that I just started [~102 minutes ago], we are at 0.5% inflation, I'll keep everyone posted of results.
2. Finalizing Private Keys - Curve Group above 256 bit doesn't work with current private/public key code. Re-coding to have 571 bit private key [still in process of getting to work]
3. Unified Time Testing - Not fully tested [but operational as far as test results show], will get to testing fully when first 2 components are complete.

All other components have been verified / fixed from private testing. As soon as these three components are finished and tested, we will be ready for public testing. In that I will release a testnet only client, for everyone to verify. Once all issues are resolved [external GPU/CPU miners included] from public testing, the launch date will be set [most likely 4 days after public testing] and time-locked binaries will be released.

Thank You,
~Viz

edit: added item #3, added to item #1


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: SRBOOTH on July 24, 2014, 02:29:57 PM
Thank you for the updates, nice work, looking forward to supporting this.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Videlicet on July 30, 2014, 04:57:26 AM
Component 1 - Complete. [Time Released Distribution]
I had to redesign the Fractional Excess / Fractional Rewarding System, it is now a True Time Released Rewarding System. My results from the past ~4 days are as follows:

target supply after 282 minutes = 17772.603791
actual supply after 282 minutes = 17657
supply percentage 99.349539 %

target supply after 1182 minutes = 74461.202504
actual supply after 1182 minutes = 74460
supply percentage 99.998385 %

target supply after 3810 minutes = 239709.230035
actual supply after 3810 minutes = 239666
supply percentage 99.981966 %

target supply after 5716 minutes = 359295.084881
actual supply after 5716 minutes = 359271
supply percentage 99.993297 %


Component 2 - Complete. [Upgrade Private Keys to 571 bit]
What a headache, but finally resolved. We are moving forward at quite a nice pace.

A] Sign Message using 571 Bit Private Key - Done
B] Encrypt Wallet - Done [but using aes_256] this will be upgraded in time away from EVP Key in Open SSL. Reason for staying at 256 aes is this is the maximum EVP_CIPHER size possible. To upgrade, I will need to write my own password based encryption using SK512/SK1024. This will be a post-launch update.

edit: currently resolving small issues in script.cpp/script.h from the 571 bit upgrade [OP_EQUALVERIFY] is where I have isolated the issue, but it could continue.
update: looks like problem is resolved... time will tell.




Component 3 - In Process. [UTM Rules, Solo Miners]
Now onto setting up UTM seed node rules, and building a getblocktemplate client [for miners]. Bitslapper is currently in final stages of developing GPU kernal. Keep posted for final updates before testnet launch

~Viz


edits: updated status on components 1 and 2, added more time data for component 1. re-posted for subscribers. added A and B below component 2


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: SRBOOTH on July 30, 2014, 02:54:20 PM
Looks like CoinShield is going to have plenty to do looking back at July.......no shortage of coin detritus that will surely be in need clean-up!


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: IMJim on July 30, 2014, 07:14:07 PM
Looks like CoinShield is going to have plenty to do looking back at July.......no shortage of coin detritus that will surely be in need clean-up!


For SURE!  Unbelievable how much crap has been coming out!!


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: phzi on July 31, 2014, 11:27:58 PM
Can't wait... nuff said.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: yampi on August 01, 2014, 12:23:44 AM
Can't wait... nuff said.
second that


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: cwrmyy888 on August 01, 2014, 03:15:09 AM
Soft fire makes sweet malt
Support


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: KryptoKash on August 01, 2014, 08:23:05 PM
Looks like CoinShield is going to have plenty to do looking back at July.......no shortage of coin detritus that will surely be in need clean-up!
How many Coins were released in July? I count 76 ... (https://www.altcoincalendar.info/calendar) I wouldn't be surprise if the real number is 100+.  


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Videlicet on August 05, 2014, 03:50:51 AM
Currently in final stages of Core Development.

Suffered slight operating system issues [enough for a bug to be created that was not there] that I did not rule out as the issue until later in debugging. This slowed things, but now I am back on track. Currently, everything works. The only coding left for me to do is adding RPC commands, Add some Security rules to Unified Time, and Update Synchronized Checkpoints.

A big Thanks to Everyone for their patience and support!
Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: IMJim on August 05, 2014, 05:45:41 AM
If everything you have been posting is true brother, it will soon be all of us thanking you!  Sounds like you have been coding like a crazy man for some weeks now!

Cool that you are posting consistent updates as you progress, that is a highly missed factor in most coin threads:-)


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Videlicet on August 05, 2014, 06:21:06 AM
IMJim,

Everyday my friend. This has turned into a very large project since the pre-launch with all of the suggestions and my decision to implement them [among other features I had ideas for, but not the time]. I'm really happy with how this project has evolved, not only in the code, but the community beginning to grow around it.

Remember it is people such as yourself that will make this successful: by believing in it, using it, and bringing other people in on the vision of a brighter future that we can all create together.

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: bigreddmachine on August 05, 2014, 04:41:29 PM

I'm really happy with how this project has evolved, not only in the code, but the community beginning to grow around it.

Remember it is people such as yourself that will make this successful: by believing in it, using it, and bringing other people in on the vision of a brighter future that we can all create together.

Viz.

I probably missed this on the thread somewhere, but what are your plans for a community central hub?  Is there a coinshieldtalk.org in the plans, or a subreddit?  Sorry if I am missing something obvious here.

Also, what plans do you have for bringing more people onboard the development team?  I don't know that one primary coder is that sustainable for a project this size.

Do you plan to have a public review period of all the code you have developed?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: KryptoKash on August 05, 2014, 08:56:05 PM

I'm really happy with how this project has evolved, not only in the code, but the community beginning to grow around it.

Remember it is people such as yourself that will make this successful: by believing in it, using it, and bringing other people in on the vision of a brighter future that we can all create together.

Viz.

I probably missed this on the thread somewhere, but what are your plans for a community central hub?  Is there a coinshieldtalk.org in the plans, or a subreddit?  Sorry if I am missing something obvious here.

Also, what plans do you have for bringing more people onboard the development team?  I don't know that one primary coder is that sustainable for a project this size.

Do you plan to have a public review period of all the code you have developed?


Coinshieldtalk.org is set up and ready to go (you can register your username on there now).

One coin has already submitted a petition to become Coinshield verified: http://coinshieldtalk.org/forum/coin/petition-to-become-coin-shield-verfied-appeals-to-remove-verification/103-negotium-ntm-coin   

We simply have not launched yet but anyone is welcome to comment/post/submit as of now.

Videlicet  will reply to your other questions,

Thanks
~KryptoKash





Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Videlicet on August 05, 2014, 10:25:19 PM

I'm really happy with how this project has evolved, not only in the code, but the community beginning to grow around it.

Remember it is people such as yourself that will make this successful: by believing in it, using it, and bringing other people in on the vision of a brighter future that we can all create together.

Viz.

I probably missed this on the thread somewhere, but what are your plans for a community central hub?  Is there a coinshieldtalk.org in the plans, or a subreddit?  Sorry if I am missing something obvious here.

Also, what plans do you have for bringing more people onboard the development team?  I don't know that one primary coder is that sustainable for a project this size.

Do you plan to have a public review period of all the code you have developed?

So far, it is just me. I have been working hard, and will not take anyone on the development team that will not continue that trend. One primary coder is perfectly sustainable, but eventually I want to become more of an overseer, helping others learn the code, improve it, ensuring quality, etc.. My only requirement to help develop is willingness to learn [your integrity will set your position of responsibility over time]. I will not make any sacrifices of the Vision of Coinshield for less personal work... That being said, it is me for now, but I'm sure that many great developers will join in time to continue to improve Coinshield... but we should always remember: better is the mortal enemy of good enough. Determining this point can have its difficulties.

The public review is tricky, maybe you wouldn't mind sharing your opinion. I have been contemplating, should we release the source code when the Coinshield Channels begin to function to Protect Coinshield from Forgery, or would you rather it be at launch. I already have been documenting the code for a DOxygen interface which is currently in development. This will allow you to review the streamlined structures in the code, but not be able to steal any of it.

I am thinking this will be the best solution [especially from private testing results, which really came down to 2 people out of 15] would be after the Exchange Channels are active, so that Coinshield will be protected. Certain layers of protection have to administered in the condition of the marketplace currently, but then again this is just my opinion.

What do you think?
Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: adaseb on August 05, 2014, 10:29:08 PM
This is an interesting concept but I highly doubt it will work.

It needs tons of support and since the start, there hasn't been much development and awareness.

I wish you luck but I don't think this will survive.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Videlicet on August 05, 2014, 10:50:58 PM
This is an interesting concept but I highly doubt it will work.

It needs tons of support and since the start, there hasn't been much development and awareness.

I wish you luck but I don't think this will survive.

Doubt precedes change, time will always tell.

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: armin22 on August 05, 2014, 11:12:25 PM
I crie all da tiem.

Love the dedication.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Videlicet on August 06, 2014, 12:56:36 AM
I crie all da tiem.

Love the dedication.

It's the only way this can get done and survive. Success is directly proportional to effort applied [at least in an Ideal World], but in this world, perseverance is what will be the bridge towards an Ideal World. In that, we are at least making forward progress [and this is about the most I can ever expect].

Thank You,
Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: phzi on August 06, 2014, 01:34:37 AM
I think it is vital to release source code along with the binaries at launch.

I did take a look at the test client, but most of the changes are quite internal and are hard to debug or understand without source code.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Videlicet on August 06, 2014, 01:47:28 AM
Thank you for this. If I may ask [to understand you better], why do you feel it is vital for the source code to be released upon launch?

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: billotronic on August 06, 2014, 04:00:24 AM
There are a TON of answers to that question but I am only going to give you one. If you are doing all the coding/dev work yourself yout would be very smart to allow others to look at your code for when shit hits the fan and you need help fixing something. There are many talented folks on these forums and with a project like yours I'm sure you will be getting their attention.



Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Videlicet on August 06, 2014, 06:26:18 AM
Thank You, this is good information: To strengthen the code by community involvement. I'll do some thinking on this, now that I have a broader perspective to work with. In the meantime more suggestions towards the weight of my decision are always welcome from anyone who decides to take the time to suggest.

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: bigreddmachine on August 06, 2014, 03:24:18 PM

I'm really happy with how this project has evolved, not only in the code, but the community beginning to grow around it.

Remember it is people such as yourself that will make this successful: by believing in it, using it, and bringing other people in on the vision of a brighter future that we can all create together.

Viz.

I probably missed this on the thread somewhere, but what are your plans for a community central hub?  Is there a coinshieldtalk.org in the plans, or a subreddit?  Sorry if I am missing something obvious here.

Also, what plans do you have for bringing more people onboard the development team?  I don't know that one primary coder is that sustainable for a project this size.

Do you plan to have a public review period of all the code you have developed?

So far, it is just me. I have been working hard, and will not take anyone on the development team that will not continue that trend. One primary coder is perfectly sustainable, but eventually I want to become more of an overseer, helping others learn the code, improve it, ensuring quality, etc.. My only requirement to help develop is willingness to learn [your integrity will set your position of responsibility over time]. I will not make any sacrifices of the Vision of Coinshield for less personal work... That being said, it is me for now, but I'm sure that many great developers will join in time to continue to improve Coinshield... but we should always remember: better is the mortal enemy of good enough. Determining this point can have its difficulties.

The public review is tricky, maybe you wouldn't mind sharing your opinion. I have been contemplating, should we release the source code when the Coinshield Channels begin to function to Protect Coinshield from Forgery, or would you rather it be at launch. I already have been documenting the code for a DOxygen interface which is currently in development. This will allow you to review the streamlined structures in the code, but not be able to steal any of it.

I am thinking this will be the best solution [especially from private testing results, which really came down to 2 people out of 15] would be after the Exchange Channels are active, so that Coinshield will be protected. Certain layers of protection have to administered in the condition of the marketplace currently, but then again this is just my opinion.

What do you think?
Viz.

I'm always a fan of being as open-source as possible, but I understand what you are saying.  My usual support goes to coins that provide innovation and also allow folks to see the entire history of their codebase, though I threw some support behind a few closed-source coins such as vertcoin because I thought their product was notable.  If you don't open the source, I think finding a few reputable developers to check through the source for potential errors would be good.  It is always better to have multiple eyes on the project.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: KryptoKash on August 07, 2014, 06:50:20 AM
Want to be part of our shitcoin prevention/Coinshield verification process? Sign up and reserve your username: http://coinshieldtalk.org (http://coinshieldtalk.org)  A launch date will be announced soon.  :)


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: gjhiggins on August 07, 2014, 09:35:10 AM
Want to be part of our shitcoin prevention/Coinshield verification process?

I look forward to the day when you can afford to be less gratuitously provocative. To help you approach the community with a more balanced view, can I ask you to please provide clarification of the following instruction:

“If another coin clones your coin they will be sent directly into the voting system, no petition needed.”

Please define the term “to clone” as it used in this context. You clearly don't mean “git clone <altcoinrepos>” because the result of such an action is merely another valid wallet for the coin.

The only other meaning that I can reasonably ascribe to the term is an analogy with cloning in genetics but that's an analogy and of course, that's simply unusable as a criterion.

This is software engineering, please give us an operational definition of what criteria you intend to apply to decide whether a given altcoin is a “clone” in your terms.


Cheers

Graham



Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Videlicet on August 07, 2014, 10:25:40 PM
Graham,

Thank you for a good question. As you have brilliantly pointed out in the past, the best way to create definitions with this system is an ostensive definition (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostensive_definition).

The first step would be to read as a programmer the source code of accused "clone coin". If someone did not put much effort towards the development of that coin, there will still be a lot of similarities [besides sharing the same codebase]. The most notable would be remnants of old hard forks [cloned but not removed], lack of understanding of CLIENT_VERSION in version.h and how to change that version down to 0.1.0.0 [one must remove outdated wallet upgrades], PROTOCOL_VERSION similarities, etc.

This will of course have to be very "loose", but just the first net with large holes to grab the big fish. The more cunning fish will of course do a "little" extra work to get through the initial checks, then forcing that coin's destruction to be determined by the community. This small level of automation is designed to reduce the load on petitions for obvious cases of Forgery.

Let us know if you have any more questions,
Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: gjhiggins on August 08, 2014, 02:52:03 PM
the best way to create definitions with this system is an ostensive definition (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostensive_definition)

I clearly didn't do as good a job as you credit me with. I seem to have completely failed to communicate the profound import of a crucial aspect of an ostensive definition that's not stressed in the wikipedia entry: each of us creates our own unique, idiosyncratic definitional set of members.

As an aid to my thinking in this area, I mentally replace the question “is this coin a valid target?” with “is this oil painting Art?” Imagine trying to get a roomful of people to agree on whether a given painting is “Art”. You'll get a different answer each time, that's the nature of the beast. My interpretation of “art” is not the same as yours, indeed it would be weirdly unnatural if it were. The unavoidable conclusion is that consistency in target selection is infeasible.

Quote
The more cunning fish will of course do a "little" extra work to get through the initial checks
You appear to be setting yourselves up as the altcoin police, riding into action on a hunter-killer altcoin, responding to imagined public disquiet. Have you lined up some snappy uniforms?

For our part (see sig), we'll be working to help altcoin developers meet the higher technical standards claimed by CoinShield(tm) to represent the opinion of CoinShield(tm)'s customers and to which the entire altcoin community is apparently to be held, whether they agree or not, on pain of deliberate destruction of the coin and the dev's reputation.

In pursuit of this objective of raising standards, we'll be publishing full details of best practices in software engineering that are specifically applicable to forking and creating a new altcoin, concentrating on those elements which are held by CoinShield(tm)'s customers to be particularly objectionable if incorrectly implemented.

We'll be looking to you for a complete list of the operational specifications of your requirements, we feel that would be the most constructive and sensible approach.


Cheers

Graham


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Videlicet on August 09, 2014, 01:34:01 AM
Graham,

Let me clarify: This component is a level of automation for "coinshield verified" coins, this means that the community interpretation is already complete. It has no "say" or "definition" other than a relative stance to a Coinshield Verified Coin, to protect that coin from Forgery. The reason for this is for exactly as you say, that everyone interprets differently, and balancing these interpretations takes time... This will ideally speed up the forgery cases, which will increase the "cost of forgery" hopefully reducing the number of people finding profit in it.

Our goal is not to be police, but a representative of public opinion. This being said, what is your definition of a "clone coin"? I believe that the definitions for such things should be based off of many different perspectives to attempt to achieve the most balanced definition.

edit: I would like to also add [in more words] that each "Coinshield Verified Coin" set by the community will be an "object of reference" in which the standard will be set. The first coin to be Coinshield Verified will begin the standard, the rest will continue to evolve this standard standing as "examples" for the definition of "the quality standard". This will be voiced by the community through action in the process of Coinshield Verification.

Thank You
Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: gjhiggins on August 09, 2014, 10:37:02 AM
Our goal is not to be police, but a representative of public opinion our customers.
ftfy

Asserting it repeatedly doesn't make it a fact, yet this unsupportable claim is baldly repeated as though it did. We're invited to subscribe to a naive fiction that because CoinSheld(tm) customers are members of the general public, CoinShield(tm) therefore represents public opinion. This is starting to not ring true for me, I can't match up this childlike fiction with the deep analytic skills required of a top-flight coder. There's a trope that STEMheads typically suck at social science  ... but this is so bad it's verging on the improbable.

Because we've already been through this loop. There's nothing about the CoinShield(tm) operation that places it in the public sphere. It is a facility that CoinShield(tm), a commercial entity, chooses to offer at CoinShield(tm)'s convenience, to whomsoever CoinShield(tm) chooses or not, to do with as CoinShield(tm) sees fit and CoinShield(tm) is free to withdraw this facility at any point, without reason, notice or penalty to CoinShield(tm) and CoinShield(tm) also profits by this activity. That's not “public” by any recognisable definition, that's “ commercial” and trivial to demonstrate. Obdurately restating a demonstrably untrue claim simply serves to raise suspicions of dissembling.

Cheers

Graham


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: cisahasa on August 09, 2014, 10:50:00 AM
Block Reward [Miners]:50 * e^(-0.0000011 * nHeight * [Chain Time Modular]) + 1
Block Reward [Channels - Coin Trade in]:10 * e^(-0.00000055 * nHeight * [Chain Time Modular]) + 1
Block Reward [Developers]:1 * e^(-0.00000059 * nHeight * [Chain Time Modular]) + 0.04

do the math, nice try


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: KryptoKash on August 09, 2014, 10:56:37 AM
Block Reward [Miners]:50 * e^(-0.0000011 * nHeight * [Chain Time Modular]) + 1
Block Reward [Channels - Coin Trade in]:10 * e^(-0.00000055 * nHeight * [Chain Time Modular]) + 1
Block Reward [Developers]:1 * e^(-0.00000059 * nHeight * [Chain Time Modular]) + 0.04

do the math, nice try


The math has been done, on page 5 I believe:

Let's put in some constants and swap the last variable to 1 since block time won't vary that much on this coin...

Block 120 (2 hours):
Miners: 50*e^(-0.0000011*120)+3 = 52.99
Dev: e^(-0.00000059 * 120) + 0.1 = 1.09

Block 525600 (1 year):
Miners: 50*e^(-0.0000011*525600)+3 = 31.04
Dev: e^(-0.00000059 * 525600) + 0.1 = 0.83

Block 2628000 (5 year):
Miners: 50*e^(-0.0000011*2628000)+3 = 5.776
Dev: e^(-0.00000059 * 2628000) + 0.1 = 0.312

So you start taking roughly 2%, rising to 2.7% after a year, and 5.4% after 5 years.

Unsure what to say, that's a horrible unfair greedy amount to try and take, and to try and mask using relatively complex equations.

You are forgetting the Coinshield Channels, and that value per block does not mean higher value overall in exponential decay:

Block 120 (2 hours): 1.09 / 67.07 = [1.6% per block]
Miners: 50*e^(-0.0000011*120)+3 = 52.99
Channels: 10 * e^(-0.00000055 * 120) + 3 = 12.99
Dev: e^(-0.00000059 * 120) + 0.1 = 1.09

Block 525600 (1 year): 0.83 / 42.36 = [1.9% per block]
Miners: 50*e^(-0.0000011*525600)+3 = 31.04
Channels: 10 * e^(-0.00000055 * 525600) + 3 = 10.49
Dev: e^(-0.00000059 * 525600) + 0.1 = 0.83

COIN SUPPLY, 1 YEAR: 28,545,067
Total Mined: 21,801,631 [76% to miners]
Total Channel: 6,231,778 [21% to traders]
Total Dev: 511,658 [1.7% dev]

Block 2628000 (5 year): 0.312 / 11.438 = [2.7% per block]
Miners: 50*e^(-0.0000011*2628000)+3 = 5.776
Channels: 10 * e^(-0.00000055 * 2628000]) + 3 = 5.35
Dev: e^(-0.00000059 * 2628000) + 0.1 = 0.312

COIN SUPPLY, 5 YEARS: 74,341,701
Total Mined: 50,888,959 [68% to miners]
Total Channel: 21,850,548 [29% to traders]
Total Dev: 1,602,194 [2.1% dev]

Block 5256000 (10 year): 0.145 / 6.845 = [2.1% per block]
Miners: 50*e^(-0.0000011*5256000) + 3 = 3.15
Channels: 10 * e^(-0.00000055 * 5256000]) + 3 = 3.55
Dev: e^(-0.00000059 * 5256000) + 0.1 = 0.145

COIN SUPPLY 10 YEARS: 96,156,860
Total Mined: 61,077,806 [63% to miners]
Total Channel: 32,935,024 [34% to traders]
Total Dev: 2,144,030 [2.2% dev]

http://coinshield.io/images/graph.jpg

This graph is from the modeling program I used to design the equations.

EDIT: As you will notice, the channels do increase in [%] over time. This gives them more longevity.

~Videlicet


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: cisahasa on August 09, 2014, 11:01:48 AM
Block Reward [Miners]:50 * e^(-0.0000011 * nHeight * [Chain Time Modular]) + 1
Block Reward [Channels - Coin Trade in]:10 * e^(-0.00000055 * nHeight * [Chain Time Modular]) + 1
Block Reward [Developers]:1 * e^(-0.00000059 * nHeight * [Chain Time Modular]) + 0.04

do the math, nice try


The math has been done, on page 5 I believe:

Let's put in some constants and swap the last variable to 1 since block time won't vary that much on this coin...

Block 120 (2 hours):
Miners: 50*e^(-0.0000011*120)+3 = 52.99
Dev: e^(-0.00000059 * 120) + 0.1 = 1.09

Block 525600 (1 year):
Miners: 50*e^(-0.0000011*525600)+3 = 31.04
Dev: e^(-0.00000059 * 525600) + 0.1 = 0.83

Block 2628000 (5 year):
Miners: 50*e^(-0.0000011*2628000)+3 = 5.776
Dev: e^(-0.00000059 * 2628000) + 0.1 = 0.312

So you start taking roughly 2%, rising to 2.7% after a year, and 5.4% after 5 years.

Unsure what to say, that's a horrible unfair greedy amount to try and take, and to try and mask using relatively complex equations.

You are forgetting the Coinshield Channels, and that value per block does not mean higher value overall in exponential decay:

Block 120 (2 hours): 1.09 / 67.07 = [1.6% per block]
Miners: 50*e^(-0.0000011*120)+3 = 52.99
Channels: 10 * e^(-0.00000055 * 120) + 3 = 12.99
Dev: e^(-0.00000059 * 120) + 0.1 = 1.09

Block 525600 (1 year): 0.83 / 42.36 = [1.9% per block]
Miners: 50*e^(-0.0000011*525600)+3 = 31.04
Channels: 10 * e^(-0.00000055 * 525600) + 3 = 10.49
Dev: e^(-0.00000059 * 525600) + 0.1 = 0.83

COIN SUPPLY, 1 YEAR: 28,545,067
Total Mined: 21,801,631 [76% to miners]
Total Channel: 6,231,778 [21% to traders]
Total Dev: 511,658 [1.7% dev]

Block 2628000 (5 year): 0.312 / 11.438 = [2.7% per block]
Miners: 50*e^(-0.0000011*2628000)+3 = 5.776
Channels: 10 * e^(-0.00000055 * 2628000]) + 3 = 5.35
Dev: e^(-0.00000059 * 2628000) + 0.1 = 0.312

COIN SUPPLY, 5 YEARS: 74,341,701
Total Mined: 50,888,959 [68% to miners]
Total Channel: 21,850,548 [29% to traders]
Total Dev: 1,602,194 [2.1% dev]

Block 5256000 (10 year): 0.145 / 6.845 = [2.1% per block]
Miners: 50*e^(-0.0000011*5256000) + 3 = 3.15
Channels: 10 * e^(-0.00000055 * 5256000]) + 3 = 3.55
Dev: e^(-0.00000059 * 5256000) + 0.1 = 0.145

COIN SUPPLY 10 YEARS: 96,156,860
Total Mined: 61,077,806 [63% to miners]
Total Channel: 32,935,024 [34% to traders]
Total Dev: 2,144,030 [2.2% dev]

http://coinshield.io/images/graph.jpg

This graph is from the modeling program I used to design the equations.

EDIT: As you will notice, the channels do increase in [%] over time. This gives them more longevity.

~Videlicet

lost my interest about this


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Videlicet on August 09, 2014, 05:26:45 PM
Because we've already been through this loop.

You're right, circles are superfluous. Thank you for your feedback.

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Hix on August 10, 2014, 08:05:02 AM
Any news about launch date?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: cisahasa on August 10, 2014, 09:17:29 PM
Any news about launch date?
cancelled scam?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: KryptoKash on August 10, 2014, 09:33:11 PM
Any news about launch date?
Videlicet will release a launch date soon.

cancelled scam?

Videlicet is currently in the final stages of coding. I'll ask him to post an update shortly.

A launch date will be released very very soon.  :)


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: SnjafSnjaf on August 11, 2014, 02:26:43 PM
Any news about launch date?
Videlicet will release a launch date soon.

cancelled scam?

Videlicet is currently in the final stages of coding. I'll ask him to post an update shortly.

A launch date will be released very very soon.  :)

I really hope that you guys will deliver and make us happy for waiting so long :)


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Videlicet on August 12, 2014, 07:12:29 AM
It seems I am overdue for an [Update]:

I. Organization: Rebuilt Coinshield Core from Source, organized code into Namespaces [Core, Net, Wallet], restructured filesystems, relinked headers. Made the build more "hardy" giving more precise "instruction"; this speeds up productivity and from my results slightly increases runtime execution.

II. Qt Development: Fixed issues in Qt. Added styling to dress it up in presentation. TODO [Post Launch] Add theme options to set your color themes / eventually add skins to the Qt for more personalization.

III. Unified Time: Working on lower level network protocol for Unified Time. This will allow more precision and greater tuning with connection latency, etc. Updated the UNIFIED_TIME_OFFSET to not be created from connected peers/seeds, but to be a consistent growing average in the TimeDB. This will strengthen your UNIFIED_TIME, eventually getting everyone synchronized as close as I can get it. I want to bring down the UNIFIED_ALLOWED_DRIFT to < 5 seconds to reduce impact from Time Warp attacks. This average will also cause any Bad Time Seed to have little influence on your overall Unified Time.

IV. Decentralized Checkpointing: I do not like the code for Checkpointing in Peercoin, because it is based off of a "Master" node broadcasting the Checkpoints. I would like to keep the Network as decentralized as possible, so this has led me to design a Decentralized Checkpointing Feature. Here is a basic rundown of how it will work.

After 60 minutes, the next block produced will be flagged by all nodes as a "pending checkpoint". After 30 minutes, all nodes will broadcast this checkpoint. In order for your node to change its pending checkpoint, it will have to receive a checkpoint different than yours, and from the majority of your peers. This will make the checkpointing based on a majority consensus by the nodes, reducing an attackers impact on the Main Chain. This is because it puts the effort of an attack in mining power and the sheer number of nodes agreeing on that chain.

Finally after 30 minutes of the "pending checkpoint" broadcast, that checkpoint will become hardened, and a new pending checkpoint will be flagged. The time between checkpoints, and corresponding block number will also be a fingerprint, because for the checkpoint to be accepted by other nodes as valid, it will require that block to be produced within the proper beginning of minute 60 and also hold a majority acceptance by the network.


V. Automatic Updating: Not sure if I will get to this pre-launch or post-launch. It will give you a message box on startup alerting you that there is a new update for Coinshield Core, and what is included in the new update. Upon acceptance, the update will be downloaded only from a trusted source [seed nodes], and it must contain a trusted signature [signed by private keys I will hold]. This will expedite the process of network updates, and ease the process for the everyday user. This would also prompt me to remove the Alerts Broadcasting System [local alerts will remain] as it would not be needed anymore. Final option will be for "automaticupdates=1" in coinshield.conf to automatically download and install verified updates.


I will keep everyone posted on the progress of these last two components [III && IV], and will always accept suggestions for further optimization as I approach completion.

Thank You to Everyone for your continued patience... we are almost there!
Viz.

edit: slight rewording


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: bigreddmachine on August 12, 2014, 11:30:14 AM

I will keep everyone posted on the progress of these last two components [III && IV], and will always accept suggestions for further optimization as I approach completion.


IV and V?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Videlicet on August 12, 2014, 12:04:06 PM
IV and V?

V. Automatic Updating: Not sure if I will get to this pre-launch or post-launch.

I'm concentrating mainly on III and IV at the moment. We'll see about V when those are complete.

Viz.



Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: bigreddmachine on August 12, 2014, 05:59:10 PM
IV and V?

V. Automatic Updating: Not sure if I will get to this pre-launch or post-launch.

I'm concentrating mainly on III and IV at the moment. We'll see about V when those are complete.

Viz.



Thanks for clarifying.  I was confused because you said "last two" but then "III && IV". 


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: SnjafSnjaf on August 14, 2014, 09:37:03 PM
Is this going to be launched while i am still young? :)

No seriously, how much more time do you need to finish coin?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Hix on August 19, 2014, 07:18:18 PM
Any news about launch?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Bitdonator on August 20, 2014, 02:39:19 PM
I lost interest for this coin. Hope that launch will be this year  ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: yampi on August 20, 2014, 04:36:06 PM
I wonder which one will be released first?
Half Life 3 or this.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Bitdonator on August 20, 2014, 06:38:54 PM
LoL  ;)

0
I wonder which one will be released first?
Half Life 3 or this.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Videlicet on August 20, 2014, 11:36:09 PM
I like to see there is no absence of humor on this thread  :D
As for a time frame on launch, here is an update, and my best prediction.

I. Lower Level Protocol
I've spent the last week building the lower level protocol. It handles any amount of connections, and processes up to 50k requests per second on my local computer. Implemented in a basic DDOS protection detecting request acceleration and velocity per address, to detect any large "traffic spikes" which usually come from a DDOS attack.

Now, I spent quite a bit of time designing the LLP to be portable, and expandable. This is achieved by using template classes for the Client / Server to allow anybody to build a new protocol with ease. It simply requires you to construct your own packet type class with a packet processor Funcion PacketType Process(); the template classes handle all the data processing and messaging using your packet type. Inside your custom Process function is where all the magic will happen by interpreting the header, and sending data responses. This allows for different structures inside the packet to be interpreted differently by different customized protocols.

So with that, I built two Messaging Protocols on top of the LLP Templates.

Core LLP:
The Core LLP will allow a client to get their External IP, a Unified Time Seed, or a list of recent Peers. This keeps address seeding away from the main Coinshield Messaging system [as Bitcoin uses an IRC channel]. This LLP can also be used for the Automatic Updates.

Mining LLP:
The Mining LLP will act to replace Getblocktemplate and Getwork. It will allow an external miner to interact with the Coinshield Network, without the need for the RPC server [RPC Server will still process non mining requests]. The Mining LLP will broadcast new blocks to miners [reducing stale shares], accept new blocks, customize coinbase tx [a little later], etc. This will simplify the networking required to build an external miner, and reduce the overhead associated with boost serialization [from old mining protocol]. This will keep the mining as efficient as possible.


II. Decentralized Checkpointing
Will get to this once LLP is woven into Coinshield Core.

III. POS Timed Release
Mostly done with core components, still need to tune the coinstake reward and implement release in blockchain.

IV. External CPU / GPU Miner
As far as I know Bitslapper has the Kernal hashing working. I will be sending him an LLP Mining Client so he can integrate that into his miner. CPU Miner is done, just needs to be woven with LLP Mining Client. Not far off once LLP is integrated into Coinshield Core.


With these updates my best estimate is next week, but I think we all know how accurate my estimates can be [this doesn't always mean longer]  ;D
Viz.

edit: added more detail about LLP templates


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: coinsolidation on August 21, 2014, 12:13:09 AM
With these updates my best estimate is next week.

After reading that, I think you may need till next month or longer, and would also suggest you move development to something open like github so that people can help you test and contribute along the way.

This isn't an alt coin, it's a new set of technology, you need more time and more eyes to do this correctly.

Keep up the good work, and please to keep things positive and for your own sanity, move it to be considered as a software development project until tested and proven, and then turn it in to a currency.

I wanted to help you test and couldn't as I didn't know what the binaries you sent contained, we need source to compile, honestly nobody will steal or can steal it, as it's under development and would take anybody weeks to catch up to your understanding of your own code.

Best of luck,

Mark


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: BitSlapper on August 22, 2014, 09:07:18 PM
I like to see there is no absence of humor on this thread  :D
As for a time frame on launch, here is an update, and my best prediction.

I. Lower Level Protocol
I've spent the last week building the lower level protocol. It handles any amount of connections, and processes up to 50k requests per second on my local computer. Implemented in a basic DDOS protection detecting request acceleration and velocity per address, to detect any large "traffic spikes" which usually come from a DDOS attack.

Now, I spent quite a bit of time designing the LLP to be portable, and expandable. This is achieved by using template classes for the Client / Server to allow anybody to build a new protocol with ease. It simply requires you to construct your own packet type class with a packet processor Funcion PacketType Process(); the template classes handle all the data processing and messaging using your packet type. Inside your custom Process function is where all the magic will happen by interpreting the header, and sending data responses. This allows for different structures inside the packet to be interpreted differently by different customized protocols.

So with that, I built two Messaging Protocols on top of the LLP Templates.

Core LLP:
The Core LLP will allow a client to get their External IP, a Unified Time Seed, or a list of recent Peers. This keeps address seeding away from the main Coinshield Messaging system [as Bitcoin uses an IRC channel]. This LLP can also be used for the Automatic Updates.

Mining LLP:
The Mining LLP will act to replace Getblocktemplate and Getwork. It will allow an external miner to interact with the Coinshield Network, without the need for the RPC server [RPC Server will still process non mining requests]. The Mining LLP will broadcast new blocks to miners [reducing stale shares], accept new blocks, customize coinbase tx [a little later], etc. This will simplify the networking required to build an external miner, and reduce the overhead associated with boost serialization [from old mining protocol]. This will keep the mining as efficient as possible.


II. Decentralized Checkpointing
Will get to this once LLP is woven into Coinshield Core.

III. POS Timed Release
Mostly done with core components, still need to tune the coinstake reward and implement release in blockchain.

IV. External CPU / GPU Miner
As far as I know Bitslapper has the Kernal hashing working. I will be sending him an LLP Mining Client so he can integrate that into his miner. CPU Miner is done, just needs to be woven with LLP Mining Client. Not far off once LLP is integrated into Coinshield Core.


With these updates my best estimate is next week, but I think we all know how accurate my estimates can be [this doesn't always mean longer]  ;D
Viz.

edit: added more detail about LLP templates



I did have the GPU Miner hashing on the test network, AMD OpenCL only right now. I'm waiting for the new test client from Viz so I can test the kernel further.

I'm currently working on other functionality, until I can test the kernel again.

For example I recently completed AMD ADL integration. This allows you to change the cards memory clock, gpu clock, voltage, fan speed, etc... from the miner.

I'm also currently working on making the GPU Miner more user and coder friendly ;) .

I did some basic setup for the NVAPI from NVIDIA, their version of ADL. This was just prepare work for future development.


Any questions about the development of the GPU Miner just throw them my way and I'll be happy to answer them!



Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Hix on August 23, 2014, 08:42:20 PM
Nvidia cuda miner available from start ?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: sandpaper on August 23, 2014, 08:48:55 PM
Watching this coin.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: BitSlapper on August 23, 2014, 09:43:37 PM
Nvidia cuda miner available from start ?

I'm working on the AMD miner first. I'm setting it up for easy CUDA integration.

If I have time I will implement the CUDA portion but ensuring the AMD miner works efficiently comes first.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Hix on August 24, 2014, 09:14:21 AM
Nvidia cuda miner available from start ?

I'm working on the AMD miner first. I'm setting it up for easy CUDA integration.

If I have time I will implement the CUDA portion but ensuring the AMD miner works efficiently comes first.
For good start we need CUDA miner too. You have very much time to make it, Videlicet no fast guy))


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Videlicet on August 24, 2014, 03:09:58 PM
This gave me a good laugh, Thanks Hix  ;D It seems good humor lies in the reflection of truth.

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: yampi on August 24, 2014, 10:17:25 PM
Coinshield is going to be very revolutionizing.The altcoin industry will be better without scams and pump & dump coins pulling down good altcoins down to hell.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: SnjafSnjaf on August 25, 2014, 10:39:17 AM
Coinshield is going to be very revolutionizing.The altcoin industry will be better without scams and pump & dump coins pulling down good altcoins down to hell.

If we get this coin on time, as it seems ALT coins are demolishing crypto world at this moment since there are scams and trash coins more and more every day... That is serious problem at this moment since people are afraid to invest now. 


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Hix on August 25, 2014, 06:12:24 PM
This gave me a good laugh, Thanks Hix  ;D It seems good humor lies in the reflection of truth.

Viz.
Welcome  xe-xe ) :beer:


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Superxfast on August 28, 2014, 02:16:05 AM
Will coinshield support cpu running linux OS such as Centos at launch day?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Videlicet on August 28, 2014, 03:22:11 AM
Will coinshield support cpu running linux OS such as Centos at launch day?

Yes, I am going to release the external CPU miner source code along with the binaries for anyone to compile and improve themselves at launch. It is written using boost and openssl so it will be portable.

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: IMJim on August 29, 2014, 02:53:54 AM
We got a launch day set yet?  Been a long time!


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Videlicet on August 30, 2014, 12:16:18 PM

Yes! I am just about there.
Final weave of Mining LLP [still need to send the client to Bitslapper] and Checkpointing and we are ready for Launch!

I'll post in the next day or so the Launch date. It will be next week, in light of Labor Day [I love universal timing]. I'm not much for Holidays, but with all the work I've put into Coinshield... it just seemed too fitting.

And now back to Work  ;)
I hope everyone has a great Weekend.

Viz.



Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Hix on August 30, 2014, 01:11:13 PM

Yes! I am just about there.
Final weave of Mining LLP [still need to send the client to Bitslapper] and Checkpointing and we are ready for Launch!

I'll post in the next day or so the Launch date. It will be next week, in light of Labor Day [I love universal timing]. I'm not much for Holidays, but with all the work I've put into Coinshield... it just seemed too fitting.

And now back to Work  ;)
I hope everyone has a great Weekend.

Viz.


Good news. Waiting and mark in calendary :)


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Wolf0 on August 30, 2014, 04:17:51 PM
Will coinshield support cpu running linux OS such as Centos at launch day?

Yes, I am going to release the external CPU miner source code along with the binaries for anyone to compile and improve themselves at launch. It is written using boost and openssl so it will be portable.

Viz.

Oh dear god boost.  :'(


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Videlicet on September 01, 2014, 11:12:46 AM

Update:

Finished the External Miners with LLP.  Sent SK1024 Package to Bitslapper. I will be posting the Launch Date as soon as I have established a time-frame from him. We are just about ready!  ;D

And the patient waiting begins to dwindle in the light of Fruition.
Viz.



Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: SnjafSnjaf on September 01, 2014, 12:52:35 PM

Update:

Finished the External Miners with LLP.  Sent SK1024 Package to Bitslapper. I will be posting the Launch Date as soon as I have established a time-frame from him. We are just about ready!  ;D

And the patient waiting begins to dwindle in the light of Fruition.
Viz.



Oh my god, can't believe my eyes! Is it really going to happen? :)

Can't wait for release date!


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: bigreddmachine on September 01, 2014, 06:48:01 PM

Update:

Finished the External Miners with LLP.  Sent SK1024 Package to Bitslapper. I will be posting the Launch Date as soon as I have established a time-frame from him. We are just about ready!  ;D

And the patient waiting begins to dwindle in the light of Fruition.
Viz.



Oh my god, can't believe my eyes! Is it really going to happen? :)

Can't wait for release date!

+1

Nice to see that things have come along well here.  I hope to participate from Day 1!


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: IMJim on September 01, 2014, 08:55:56 PM

Update:

Finished the External Miners with LLP.  Sent SK1024 Package to Bitslapper. I will be posting the Launch Date as soon as I have established a time-frame from him. We are just about ready!  ;D

And the patient waiting begins to dwindle in the light of Fruition.
Viz.



Woot Woot:-)


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: noganoo on September 03, 2014, 08:44:42 AM
I just heard about this today.. I am so excited!  One of the best concepts I have ever heard of.  Coin graveyard/Dump shield


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: BitSlapper on September 03, 2014, 03:58:28 PM

Update:

Finished the External Miners with LLP.  Sent SK1024 Package to Bitslapper. I will be posting the Launch Date as soon as I have established a time-frame from him. We are just about ready!  ;D

And the patient waiting begins to dwindle in the light of Fruition.
Viz.



Update:

I'm integrating the code from Viz into the GPU Miner. I'm hashing but running into minor issues, bugs, that I'm resolving.

Will update Viz with a time frame today.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: bigreddmachine on September 03, 2014, 05:52:27 PM

Update:

Finished the External Miners with LLP.  Sent SK1024 Package to Bitslapper. I will be posting the Launch Date as soon as I have established a time-frame from him. We are just about ready!  ;D

And the patient waiting begins to dwindle in the light of Fruition.
Viz.



Update:

I'm integrating the code from Viz into the GPU Miner. I'm hashing but running into minor issues, bugs, that I'm resolving.

Will update Viz with a time frame today.

Is this the AMD miner?  Will there be a Nvidia miner at launch?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: BitSlapper on September 03, 2014, 08:34:15 PM

Update:

Finished the External Miners with LLP.  Sent SK1024 Package to Bitslapper. I will be posting the Launch Date as soon as I have established a time-frame from him. We are just about ready!  ;D

And the patient waiting begins to dwindle in the light of Fruition.
Viz.



Update:

I'm integrating the code from Viz into the GPU Miner. I'm hashing but running into minor issues, bugs, that I'm resolving.

Will update Viz with a time frame today.

Is this the AMD miner?  Will there be a Nvidia miner at launch?

Yes, This is the AMD Miner.

I set up the project for easy CUDA integration but I don't currently have an NVIDIA card and there's been plenty of work on the AMD side.

As I've stated before I'd be happy to work on CUDA integration once the AMD miner is up and running.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: SnjafSnjaf on September 07, 2014, 10:21:58 PM
Silence, again...  :(


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: KryptoKash on September 08, 2014, 03:27:01 PM
Silence, again...  :(
Silence from Viz = him coding 15hrs+ a day. He has been testing his code and fixing any bugs he finds along the way. Coinshield is almost ready  ;D.
Update coming soon (later today?). :)


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: BitSlapper on September 08, 2014, 07:32:39 PM
Silence, again...  :(

Probably has to do a lot with my work on the GPU Miner.

I have it hashing but I'm optimizing it to make it viable for launch. I'm updating Viz as I make progress.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: IMJim on September 08, 2014, 08:35:49 PM
I have to laugh, I was afraid to miss the original launch date like a month ago lol:-)

All good with the delays, this is a hefty project they are undertaking.  Hell, I have not been able to understand half of what Viz has posted.  The man speaks his own language, definitely knows his sh**!


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: bigreddmachine on September 09, 2014, 01:55:39 AM
Silence, again...  :(

Probably has to do a lot with my work on the GPU Miner.

I have it hashing but I'm optimizing it to make it viable for launch. I'm updating Viz as I make progress.

With as much care as you are taking optimizing the miner, I really really hope you at least have a non-optimized CUDA miner.  Otherwise, how can this launch be fair?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: BitSlapper on September 09, 2014, 08:55:55 PM
Silence, again...  :(

Probably has to do a lot with my work on the GPU Miner.

I have it hashing but I'm optimizing it to make it viable for launch. I'm updating Viz as I make progress.

With as much care as you are taking optimizing the miner, I really really hope you at least have a non-optimized CUDA miner.  Otherwise, how can this launch be fair?

As I've stated before, I don't have an NVIDIA video card. So working on the CUDA portion of the miner is not possible at this point.

I'd be happy to do so once I'm able to get one. I might be able to borrow a 660 ti from a friend but that's not a guarantee right now.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: bigreddmachine on September 09, 2014, 09:07:52 PM
Silence, again...  :(

Probably has to do a lot with my work on the GPU Miner.

I have it hashing but I'm optimizing it to make it viable for launch. I'm updating Viz as I make progress.

With as much care as you are taking optimizing the miner, I really really hope you at least have a non-optimized CUDA miner.  Otherwise, how can this launch be fair?

As I've stated before, I don't have an NVIDIA video card. So working on the CUDA portion of the miner is not possible at this point.

I'd be happy to do so once I'm able to get one. I might be able to borrow a 660 ti from a friend but that's not a guarantee right now.

Maybe the CUDA guys would be able to help:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=167229.0


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Videlicet on September 15, 2014, 05:26:26 AM
Testnet Launch: Now!
Mainnet Launch: The Equinox [9/23/2014 12:00 PM UTC]

Coinshield Core is done, well, ready for launch. This is a Testnet only client, to start the distribution of binaries, and help to ensure everyone who wants to be involved from the launch date can have a binary that works [and I can verify there are no more bugs]. The binaries included here are compiled for Ubuntu and Windows. Now as lovely as Linux is, there is the flaw of not-so-portable binaries. From my research Ubuntu Binaries should work on most Linux Distros, but in case it doesn't work on yours, please post here, or send me an email or PM with your OS version, and I'll install that OS on a spare computer and compile it for you. This way you will be sure to be ready for the Coinshield Launch.

Here are the links to the binaries [For linux remember to allow Coinshield through your firewall]:
Coinshield Core - Ubuntu x86 (http://coinshield.io/binaries/ubuntu-x86.zip)
Coinshield Core - Windows x86 (http://coinshield.io/binaries/windows-x86.zip)

I removed the internal miners, it is unnecessary code considering I took the time to write external miners.
So to mine, you must download a CPU Miner, or compile it from my Github (http://github.com/VidereLicet)

Here are compiled binaries for the CPU Prime Miner [x64 coming when my TODO list is smaller :D]:
Primeminer - Windows x86 (http://coinshield.io/binaries/primeminer-x86.zip) If you want a linux binary for the primeminer, let me know and I'll compile one.

Now, I would like to take this opportunity here to give the Finals of all the Features in Coinshield.

I. SK Hashing: Using the new SHA3 hashing algorithms Skein and Keccak, Coinshield runs as a pure SHA3 network. The SK templates range from SK64 to SK1024. Here is the usage of each SK hashing template:
SK64: Hash for Modifier Checksum as second fingerprint for Decentralized Checkpoints.
SK256: Hash to generate an Address from your Public Key Hash.
SK512: Hash for Transactions
SK576: Hash of Public Keys, which is then Hashed with SK256 to generate your Address.
SK1024: Hash for Block Generation. Used by both the CPU and GPU miners [and Stake Minting] to create new Blocks.


II. Private Key Upgrades: Using the EC_KEY algorithms allocated in OpenSSL, I upgraded the private keys to a non prime based elliptical curve encryption of 571 bits. This was the largest algorithm that was available, and also not dependent on prime numbers. The reason for this is simple: Coinshield CPU Miners are searching for very large prime numbers, so if any 'discoveries' happen from such actions, it could compromise the whole private key system. The exact algorithm Coinshield uses is secp571r1 compared to sect256k1 that is utilized by most cryptocurrencies today. This compliments the upgraded hashing algorithms to ensure the highest security possible by today's standard.


III. Multiple Mining Channels: Coinshield has more options as a miner to help make the distribution as fair as possible. Dense Prime Clusters are found on the CPU channel from an SK1024 hash, while GPU miners do conventional SK1024 hashing. Each channel has its own difficulty adjustments and released rewards. The block trust is calculated to prevent streaks per channel, so in other words a different channel block will always break a streak of 2 or more blocks on a single channel. This makes each mining channel reinforce each other to prevent a 51% attack on any of them forcing an attacker to need 51% of all 3 mining channels [CPU, GPU, POS].

Block structure for Mining uses a 64 bit nNonce to overcome the 1Gh/s issue bitcoin had, part of the reason getblocktemplate was developed. At 1 Gh/s, it will take 18446744073 seconds before a new block is required, apposed to 4-5 seconds for Bitcoin. This helps in smoother operation of large pools, and accommodation for very large hashrates without necessary modifications to the LLP.



IV. Proof of Stake: Developed by Sunny King for Peercoin, and adapted to fit in the multiple channel designs of Coinshield. Distribution is held on a timed release to only allow a maximum of 2% inflation yearly. Proof of Stake will begin after 1 month, so I can finish the modifications / upgrades that I am implementing, while allowing the launch to not be delayed further. The coins will stake for 2 years, to keep longevity in block production.


V. Time Locked Distribution: This feature ensures that you will always have accurate data of the total CSD supply, and have an accurate prediction on what the Supply will be after X amount of time. General results are within ~0.1% margin of error which means that you will always know the given supply at any time whether past, present, or future.

With the time-locked distribution, it will prevent anyone with a large hashrate from inflating the currency while the difficulty adjusts. This is done by basing the block reward off of the time it took to create your block. This is complimented by the Exponential Decay Equations that will slowly reduce the total supply released per minute to ease reduction of supply to the miners. This ensures that miners won't be left 'in the red' after the block reward halves.

The Time Locked Distribution is split 50-50 for the CPU channel and the GPU channel. This ensures that neither channel gets more supply than the other, I believe this is the fairest approach.



VI. Shield Target Difficulty: This is an asymmetrical difficulty adjustment which gives higher priority to reduction in difficulty than inflation. This will keep the blockchain from getting 'stuck' for periods of time. The second aspect is that of reduced difficulty if too much supply has been released. This will continually reduce the difficulty as long as there is more than 8 minutes of supply available. From this point, miners will be getting a Full Subsidy while the difficulty deflates, to ensure more stimulation in block production, rather than difficulty.


VII. Unified Time: The Unified Time System synchronizes your clocks worldwide from an initial time seed. This seed is then propagated through the network, and maintained. Once the seed is held in the network, it can be retrieved from any node making this a Decentralized, Trustless, Clock synchronization method. Another function is to reduce any dependencies on centralized sources, such as Network Time Protocol [NTP] which has just been found to have very large Amplifiction Attack Vectors [In other words, anything running NTP is vulnerable to DDOS].

The difficulty with this time system though, is that each computer sees a second 1-2 microseconds from each other, which means computer clocks are always drifting + - 2 seconds per day. The way I compensated for this is keeping the Unified Average Moving, so that we get the most recent time seeds from last X hours. This allows the clocks to stay tight, but slightly fluid. The LLP Clock Regulator periodically grabs the Unified Seed from the Seed nodes to continually build and move this average. I usually see about + or - 1 second over a day or so.



VIII. Lower Level Protocol: From my many years of experience in Network Programming, I put this knowledge to the test in the development of the Lower Level Protocol. It uses template classes to allow anyone to 'build your own protocol' without having the need for any Network Programming knowledge. It gets rid of the "1 connection per thread" limitation still lingering on a lot of servers, to allow it to scale to your hardware maximums. I maxed the bandwidth on a Server before I broke 1% CPU usage. These results come from the simplicity, but power of this protocol. From these templates, I developed two extra Protocols for Coinshield Core, the Core LLP and the Mining LLP.

The Core LLP is responsible for the Unified Time functions, to have the quickest responses from the Server to ensure the Time Seed isn't diluted by Network Propogation. I have personally run tests with no allowable clock drift with no forks, but to be sure this Testnet is running with an 8 second allowable clock drift.

The Mining LLP is what miners will connect to in order to generate blocks. This protocol allows any developer to 'plug and play' the LLP Client into their miner to remove the need for Network Programming associated with Mining. In my opinion, the focus of a miner developer should be in the optimization of their algorithms, not messing around with tedious Sockets.

The Lower Level Protocol also has built in DDOS protection that functions on a moving average to determine your Score. You as a Client will have a Request Score and a Connection Score. This is because certain operating systems have limitations on the maximum active sockets, and their corresponding timeouts so if you go over 200 Connection Requests per Second without modifying this data, your whole Network Interface will reboot. Not a fun experience. The moving average makes the DDOS protection based on Throttled Requests rather than Normal LLP Request. This helps to distinguish the difference between real traffic, and an active DDOS attack. The more a Client gets banned, the longer they will be banned for to also give slight tolerance to the average user if their client accidentally pushes the requests over the limit [could be public wifi with same IP, etc.]



IX. Decentralized Checkpointing: I am really happy how this one came together, it became much simpler than my initial system. It works by passing a checkpoint that is flagged from being the block to set a new time interval through the blockchain onto another time interval. Once this new time interval is reached, that pending checkpoint becomes hardened and a new pending checkpoint is flagged. Currently this Testnet has a Checkpoint Timespan of 10 minutes which means, after you send a transaction, it will be behind a Checkpoint within 10 minutes. This helps to further prevent attackers from causing any harm, for they are only able even with 51% of all three Mining Channels to reorganize the chain for the past 10 minutes. The Checkpointing also uses the Stake Modifier Checksum generated from a CBlockIndex as a second fingerprint for the Checkpoint, so each checkpoint operates on a pair of Stake Modifier and Block Hash for extra security. Stake modifier checkpoints before were hard coded into kernel.cpp, and manually updated as with Peercoin.


Alright, so that's the rundown of my work over the past 4 months of Developing Coinshield. If you may have noticed in my signature, there is a link. This will take you to my Github where there is the source code of the External Prime Miner [CPU]. During this time we can test the network, find bugs, and maybe if you are kind enough e-mail me your debug.log file so I can read through it an ensure there aren't any 'funny' things happening. This will continue to help make Coinshield stronger.

With The Testnet Launch I am releasing the LLP Client which includes the LLP types that are shared with the LLP Template Servers. This is in the External Prime Miner, ripe for the picking. Of course, it requires the LLP Server templates which I will be releasing at a later date integrated with an LLP Pool Server with Variable Difficulty, etc. I do have more pressing things to build currently though, so that is on the lower end of my list.

If you want to run a Daemon, you need a coinshield.conf file. No addnodes here [I really dislike seeing that in config files when there is a perfectly functional DNS seeding system Satoshi took the time to Develop.]

Minimum Config to run Daemon would be:

server=1
rpcuser=user
rpcpassword=password

If you love to watch realtime logging like myself, add printtoconsole=1. This will show you "under the hood" of the Coinshield Core if you are interested in seeing what is happening. I will be distributing another set of binaries that are launch prepared a few days before launch, so please keep your eyes on the thread. This client will not work on the Real Coinshield Network come launch time. I am doing this to help establish a frame of reference for who is going to be an active participant from day 1, and what tools they will need to be successful.

Remember, if you need a Launch Binary for Linux, and none work that are available, please contact me with your operating system specifications so I can ensure you can be an active participant from day 1.

Bitslapper currently has made great progress with the GPU Miner, I'm impressed with his perseverance and dedication to developing something new, and doing it well. Without him, we would not be making this launch date; this whole process ended taking way more time than anticipated, but I have no regrets. Coinshield incorporates a lot of new Technology that will hopefully not just make the Crypto world a better place, but make the Internet a better place; and show us all that we are the ones that change things. You are changing the Crypto Landscape if you even use Coinshield, if you tell your neighbor, if you spread the word. If you petition for Verification and Destruction on CoinShieldTalk.org, or even if you mine 50 CSD. Remember that, and remember that it spreads. Those of you that have been dedicated from the beginning I thank you, your support and ideas have brought me to develop what I did: Made by the People, for the People.


As Coinshield was conceived on the Solstice, it is born on the Equinox. The revolution has begun.
Viz.






Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: WigitGetIt on September 15, 2014, 06:47:16 AM
This is going to go very well.  Def getting involved.   ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: SnjafSnjaf on September 15, 2014, 08:20:49 AM
Patience paid off, it looks really promising right now! Good job!


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: skunk on September 15, 2014, 09:37:36 AM
no sources for the wallet?
please make source code available before launch else the coin will miss trust...


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Videlicet on September 15, 2014, 11:08:03 AM
skunk,

The source code will be made fully available post-launch, at the launch of the Coinshield Exchange Channels. I will be releasing Doxygen documentation for the Coinshield Core [Pre Launch] to help amplify just that, trust, while protecting the innovation.

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: gjhiggins on September 15, 2014, 03:29:13 PM
The source code will be made fully available post-launch

I shall bide my time until then. You have perhaps made an unfortunate choice of boost 1.54 for the Ubuntu build, many altcoin READMEs refer to 1.54 as problematic. I have 1.55, via Ubuntu 14.04.

Cheers

Graham


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: KryptoKash on September 15, 2014, 08:24:44 PM
Good work Videlicet!
I been on testnet since last night. No issues to report here. Windows 7. Ill be updating OP, homepage, and forum (Coinshieldtalk.org) shortly  :)


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: gatra on September 15, 2014, 08:32:30 PM
III. Multiple Mining Channels: Coinshield has more options as a miner to help make the distribution as fair as possible. Dense Prime Clusters are found on the CPU channel from an SK1024 hash, while GPU miners do conventional SK1024 hashing. Each channel has its own difficulty adjustments and released rewards. The block trust is calculated to prevent streaks per channel, so in other words a different channel block will always break a streak of 2 or more blocks on a single channel. This makes each mining channel reinforce each other to prevent a 51% attack on any of them forcing an attacker to need 51% of all 3 mining channels [CPU, GPU, POS].

hi!
sorry but the thread became tl;dr - could you please specify more about these Dense Prime Clusters? or point me to where it is explained?

I like the idea of adjusting block trust "ony the fly" to prevent streaks, btw


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Videlicet on September 15, 2014, 10:35:54 PM
The source code will be made fully available post-launch

I shall bide my time until then. You have perhaps made an unfortunate choice of boost 1.54 for the Ubuntu build, many altcoin READMEs refer to 1.54 as problematic. I have 1.55, via Ubuntu 14.04.

Cheers

Graham


Thanks Graham, I'll be sure to update the Ubuntu boost build to 1_55 and re-upload a binary. Seems fitting since I used boost 1_55 for the windows builds.


III. Multiple Mining Channels: Coinshield has more options as a miner to help make the distribution as fair as possible. Dense Prime Clusters are found on the CPU channel from an SK1024 hash, while GPU miners do conventional SK1024 hashing. Each channel has its own difficulty adjustments and released rewards. The block trust is calculated to prevent streaks per channel, so in other words a different channel block will always break a streak of 2 or more blocks on a single channel. This makes each mining channel reinforce each other to prevent a 51% attack on any of them forcing an attacker to need 51% of all 3 mining channels [CPU, GPU, POS].

hi!
sorry but the thread became tl;dr - could you please specify more about these Dense Prime Clusters? or point me to where it is explained?

I like the idea of adjusting block trust "ony the fly" to prevent streaks, btw

Thank you, you can check out the code for the primeminer in my Github (http://github.com/VidereLicet/primeminer) if interested in reading further. The guts of the prime number searching is located in "prime.cpp". Each whole number of difficulty is cluster size, and each decimal is the rarety of the cluster by the proportions of the fermat remainders of last composite number in the cluster.

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: LTCMAXMYR on September 16, 2014, 12:05:56 AM
good work


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: siliconchip on September 16, 2014, 01:31:42 AM
When could we mine CoinShield?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Videlicet on September 16, 2014, 01:38:56 AM
good work

Thank You  ;D


siliconchip,

You can mine it on the Testnet right now to help get familiar with the mining, and LLP [possibly help test?]. The Main Net will go live on the Equinox at Noon, this is when you can mine for profits either with your CPU or GPU. Staking will begin 1 month after the Equinox.

Viz.



Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: KryptoKash on September 16, 2014, 01:44:17 AM
good work

Thank You  ;D


siliconchip,

You can mine it on the Testnet right now to help get familiar with the mining, and LLP [possibly help test?]. The Main Net will go live on the Equinox at Noon, this is when you can mine for profits either with your CPU or GPU. Staking will begin 1 month after the Equinox.

Viz.


The Equinox [9/23/2014 12:00 PM UTC]
:-)

Ill be sure to get a countdown later today.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: skunk on September 16, 2014, 08:59:18 AM
skunk,

The source code will be made fully available post-launch, at the launch of the Coinshield Exchange Channels. I will be releasing Doxygen documentation for the Coinshield Core [Pre Launch] to help amplify just that, trust, while protecting the innovation.

Viz.
then hopefully there will be some pools available at launch because my system is on boost 1.55 so your linux builds don't works here...
please either rebuild for boost 1.55 or rebuild it statically.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: cwrmyy888 on September 16, 2014, 10:30:25 AM
Testnet Launch: Now!
Mainnet Launch: The Equinox [9/23/2014 12:00 PM UTC]

Coinshield Core is done, well, ready for launch. This is a Testnet only client, to start the distribution of binaries, and help to ensure everyone who wants to be involved from the launch date can have a binary that works [and I can verify there are no more bugs]. The binaries included here are compiled for Ubuntu and Windows. Now as lovely as Linux is, there is the flaw of not-so-portable binaries. From my research Ubuntu Binaries should work on most Linux Distros, but in case it doesn't work on yours, please post here, or send me an email or PM with your OS version, and I'll install that OS on a spare computer and compile it for you. This way you will be sure to be ready for the Coinshield Launch.

Here are the links to the binaries [For linux remember to allow Coinshield through your firewall]:
Coinshield Core - Ubuntu x86 (http://coinshield.io/binaries/ubuntu-x86.zip)
Coinshield Core - Windows x86 (http://coinshield.io/binaries/windows-x86.zip)

I removed the internal miners, it is unnecessary code considering I took the time to write external miners.
So to mine, you must download a CPU Miner, or compile it from my Github (http://github.com/VidereLicet)

Here are compiled binaries for the CPU Prime Miner [x64 coming when my TODO list is smaller :D]:
Primeminer - Windows x86 (http://coinshield.io/binaries/primeminer-x86.zip) If you want a linux binary for the primeminer, let me know and I'll compile one.

Now, I would like to take this opportunity here to give the Finals of all the Features in Coinshield.

I. SK Hashing: Using the new SHA3 hashing algorithms Skein and Keccak, Coinshield runs as a pure SHA3 network. The SK templates range from SK64 to SK1024. Here is the usage of each SK hashing template:
SK64: Hash for Modifier Checksum as second fingerprint for Decentralized Checkpoints.
SK256: Hash to generate an Address from your Public Key Hash.
SK512: Hash for Transactions
SK576: Hash of Public Keys, which is then Hashed with SK256 to generate your Address.
SK1024: Hash for Block Generation. Used by both the CPU and GPU miners [and Stake Minting] to create new Blocks.


II. Private Key Upgrades: Using the EC_KEY algorithms allocated in OpenSSL, I upgraded the private keys to a non prime based elliptical curve encryption of 571 bits. This was the largest algorithm that was available, and also not dependent on prime numbers. The reason for this is simple: Coinshield CPU Miners are searching for very large prime numbers, so if any 'discoveries' happen from such actions, it could compromise the whole private key system. The exact algorithm Coinshield uses is secp571r1 compared to sect256k1 that is utilized by most cryptocurrencies today. This compliments the upgraded hashing algorithms to ensure the highest security possible by today's standard.


III. Multiple Mining Channels: Coinshield has more options as a miner to help make the distribution as fair as possible. Dense Prime Clusters are found on the CPU channel from an SK1024 hash, while GPU miners do conventional SK1024 hashing. Each channel has its own difficulty adjustments and released rewards. The block trust is calculated to prevent streaks per channel, so in other words a different channel block will always break a streak of 2 or more blocks on a single channel. This makes each mining channel reinforce each other to prevent a 51% attack on any of them forcing an attacker to need 51% of all 3 mining channels [CPU, GPU, POS].

Block structure for Mining uses a 64 bit nNonce to overcome the 1Gh/s issue bitcoin had, part of the reason getblocktemplate was developed. At 1 Gh/s, it will take 18446744073 seconds before a new block is required, apposed to 4-5 seconds for Bitcoin. This helps in smoother operation of large pools, and accommodation for very large hashrates without necessary modifications to the LLP.



IV. Proof of Stake: Developed by Sunny King for Peercoin, and adapted to fit in the multiple channel designs of Coinshield. Distribution is held on a timed release to only allow a maximum of 2% inflation yearly. Proof of Stake will begin after 1 month, so I can finish the modifications / upgrades that I am implementing, while allowing the launch to not be delayed further. The coins will stake for 2 years, to keep longevity in block production.


V. Time Locked Distribution: This feature ensures that you will always have accurate data of the total CSD supply, and have an accurate prediction on what the Supply will be after X amount of time. General results are within ~0.1% margin of error which means that you will always know the given supply at any time whether past, present, or future.

With the time-locked distribution, it will prevent anyone with a large hashrate from inflating the currency while the difficulty adjusts. This is done by basing the block reward off of the time it took to create your block. This is complimented by the Exponential Decay Equations that will slowly reduce the total supply released per minute to ease reduction of supply to the miners. This ensures that miners won't be left 'in the red' after the block reward halves.

The Time Locked Distribution is split 50-50 for the CPU channel and the GPU channel. This ensures that neither channel gets more supply than the other, I believe this is the fairest approach.



VI. Shield Target Difficulty: This is an asymmetrical difficulty adjustment which gives higher priority to reduction in difficulty than inflation. This will keep the blockchain from getting 'stuck' for periods of time. The second aspect is that of reduced difficulty if too much supply has been released. This will continually reduce the difficulty as long as there is more than 8 minutes of supply available. From this point, miners will be getting a Full Subsidy while the difficulty deflates, to ensure more stimulation in block production, rather than difficulty.


VII. Unified Time: The Unified Time System synchronizes your clocks worldwide from an initial time seed. This seed is then propagated through the network, and maintained. Once the seed is held in the network, it can be retrieved from any node making this a Decentralized, Trustless, Clock synchronization method. Another function is to reduce any dependencies on centralized sources, such as Network Time Protocol [NTP] which has just been found to have very large Amplifiction Attack Vectors [In other words, anything running NTP is vulnerable to DDOS].

The difficulty with this time system though, is that each computer sees a second 1-2 microseconds from each other, which means computer clocks are always drifting + - 2 seconds per day. The way I compensated for this is keeping the Unified Average Moving, so that we get the most recent time seeds from last X hours. This allows the clocks to stay tight, but slightly fluid. The LLP Clock Regulator periodically grabs the Unified Seed from the Seed nodes to continually build and move this average. I usually see about + or - 1 second over a day or so.



VIII. Lower Level Protocol: From my many years of experience in Network Programming, I put this knowledge to the test in the development of the Lower Level Protocol. It uses template classes to allow anyone to 'build your own protocol' without having the need for any Network Programming knowledge. It gets rid of the "1 connection per thread" limitation still lingering on a lot of servers, to allow it to scale to your hardware maximums. I maxed the bandwidth on a Server before I broke 1% CPU usage. These results come from the simplicity, but power of this protocol. From these templates, I developed two extra Protocols for Coinshield Core, the Core LLP and the Mining LLP.

The Core LLP is responsible for the Unified Time functions, to have the quickest responses from the Server to ensure the Time Seed isn't diluted by Network Propogation. I have personally run tests with no allowable clock drift with no forks, but to be sure this Testnet is running with an 8 second allowable clock drift.

The Mining LLP is what miners will connect to in order to generate blocks. This protocol allows any developer to 'plug and play' the LLP Client into their miner to remove the need for Network Programming associated with Mining. In my opinion, the focus of a miner developer should be in the optimization of their algorithms, not messing around with tedious Sockets.

The Lower Level Protocol also has built in DDOS protection that functions on a moving average to determine your Score. You as a Client will have a Request Score and a Connection Score. This is because certain operating systems have limitations on the maximum active sockets, and their corresponding timeouts so if you go over 200 Connection Requests per Second without modifying this data, your whole Network Interface will reboot. Not a fun experience. The moving average makes the DDOS protection based on Throttled Requests rather than Normal LLP Request. This helps to distinguish the difference between real traffic, and an active DDOS attack. The more a Client gets banned, the longer they will be banned for to also give slight tolerance to the average user if their client accidentally pushes the requests over the limit [could be public wifi with same IP, etc.]



IX. Decentralized Checkpointing: I am really happy how this one came together, it became much simpler than my initial system. It works by passing a checkpoint that is flagged from being the block to set a new time interval through the blockchain onto another time interval. Once this new time interval is reached, that pending checkpoint becomes hardened and a new pending checkpoint is flagged. Currently this Testnet has a Checkpoint Timespan of 10 minutes which means, after you send a transaction, it will be behind a Checkpoint within 10 minutes. This helps to further prevent attackers from causing any harm, for they are only able even with 51% of all three Mining Channels to reorganize the chain for the past 10 minutes. The Checkpointing also uses the Stake Modifier Checksum generated from a CBlockIndex as a second fingerprint for the Checkpoint, so each checkpoint operates on a pair of Stake Modifier and Block Hash for extra security. Stake modifier checkpoints before were hard coded into kernel.cpp, and manually updated as with Peercoin.


Alright, so that's the rundown of my work over the past 4 months of Developing Coinshield. If you may have noticed in my signature, there is a link. This will take you to my Github where there is the source code of the External Prime Miner [CPU]. During this time we can test the network, find bugs, and maybe if you are kind enough e-mail me your debug.log file so I can read through it an ensure there aren't any 'funny' things happening. This will continue to help make Coinshield stronger.

With The Testnet Launch I am releasing the LLP Client which includes the LLP types that are shared with the LLP Template Servers. This is in the External Prime Miner, ripe for the picking. Of course, it requires the LLP Server templates which I will be releasing at a later date integrated with an LLP Pool Server with Variable Difficulty, etc. I do have more pressing things to build currently though, so that is on the lower end of my list.

If you want to run a Daemon, you need a coinshield.conf file. No addnodes here [I really dislike seeing that in config files when there is a perfectly functional DNS seeding system Satoshi took the time to Develop.]

Minimum Config to run Daemon would be:

server=1
rpcuser=user
rpcpassword=password

If you love to watch realtime logging like myself, add printtoconsole=1. This will show you "under the hood" of the Coinshield Core if you are interested in seeing what is happening. I will be distributing another set of binaries that are launch prepared a few days before launch, so please keep your eyes on the thread. This client will not work on the Real Coinshield Network come launch time. I am doing this to help establish a frame of reference for who is going to be an active participant from day 1, and what tools they will need to be successful.

Remember, if you need a Launch Binary for Linux, and none work that are available, please contact me with your operating system specifications so I can ensure you can be an active participant from day 1.

Bitslapper currently has made great progress with the GPU Miner, I'm impressed with his perseverance and dedication to developing something new, and doing it well. Without him, we would not be making this launch date; this whole process ended taking way more time than anticipated, but I have no regrets. Coinshield incorporates a lot of new Technology that will hopefully not just make the Crypto world a better place, but make the Internet a better place; and show us all that we are the ones that change things. You are changing the Crypto Landscape if you even use Coinshield, if you tell your neighbor, if you spread the word. If you petition for Verification and Destruction on CoinShieldTalk.org, or even if you mine 50 CSD. Remember that, and remember that it spreads. Those of you that have been dedicated from the beginning I thank you, your support and ideas have brought me to develop what I did: Made by the People, for the People.


As Coinshield was conceived on the Solstice, it is born on the Equinox. The revolution has begun.
Viz.





Start the CPU channel how to excavate the wallet
The wallet help
Without this command


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Videlicet on September 16, 2014, 06:32:23 PM
Good to know, I'm working on a Boost 1_55 static build at the moment. To mine with wallet you need to compile external CPU miner from my Github (http://github.com/VidereLicet) and run command: "make -f makefile.unix" which requires openssl and boost. You could then start it from linux commandline: alias miner='/home/viz/coinshield-cpuminer/coinshield_prime 127.0.0.1 4447' then 'miner' to run and see debug output.

I'll post once I have the updated wallet build. Would you like a cpu miner binary while I'm at it?

As to pools, as mentioned in my post; I will be developing a pool as soon as my TODO gets smaller. This will be how the server side LLP templates will be released, since Coinshield is incorporating so many new features, all existing pool software will not work. Solo mining should work fine for now and early launch until I get to developing the pool.

edit: once finished, the LLP pool will be released fully open source so anyone can start their own pool or modify and improve my codebase.

Thank You,
Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: skunk on September 16, 2014, 06:40:38 PM

Good to know, I'm working on a Boost 1_55 static build at the moment. To mine with wallet you need to compile external CPU miner from my Github (http://github.com/VidereLicet) and run command: "make -f makefile.unix" which requires openssl and boost. You could then start it from linux commandline: alias miner='/home/viz/coinshield-cpuminer/coinshield_prime 127.0.0.1 4447' then 'miner' to run and see debug output.

I'll post once I have the updated wallet build. Would you like a cpu miner binary while I'm at it?

As to pools, as mentioned in my post; I will be developing a pool as soon as my TODO gets smaller. This will be how the server side LLP templates will be released, since Coinshield is incorporating so many new features, all existing pool software will not work. Solo mining should work fine for now and early launch until I get to developing the pool.

Thank You,
Viz.
thank you viz, building miner from source was easy enough under linux (i usually never install binary blobs but always build from source).
solo mining is not a problem until the net hash rate is low, but a pool is critical imho when it raises for desktop miners like me...


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield - SK-1024 GPU| Prime CPU| POS | Shitcoin Cleanup| Unified Time
Post by: Videlicet on September 16, 2014, 06:46:40 PM
Yes I completely agree, everyday desktop miners are what the CPU channel is designed for anyway; I'll put the Pool higher on my TODO then  :D

Thanks for the Feedback,
Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: KryptoKash on September 16, 2014, 08:13:29 PM
OP has been updated. 11 new features in all. Good work Viz. Countdown has been added.
Please Note:This coin will go live on:The Equinox [9/23/2014 12:00 PM CDT]
Countdown: http://bit.ly/Zonumm





 
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Coinshield was created to protect the quality standard in cryptocurrency design.
It maintains this quality by absorbing economies that the community votes to have destroyed.
Less coins in the marketplace, and tougher launch requirements are only the beginning of Coinshield.


Please Note:This coin will go live on:The Equinox [9/23/2014 12:00 PM CDT]
Countdown: http://bit.ly/Zonumm
Homepage: http://Coinshield.io (http://Coinshield.io)
Forum: http://CoinshieldTalk.org (http://CoinshieldTalk.org)

Testnet: Make sure everything is working on your miners prior to launch.
Here are the links to the binaries [For linux remember to allow Coinshield through your firewall]:
Coinshield Core - Ubuntu x86 (http://coinshield.io/binaries/ubuntu-x86.tar.gz)
Coinshield Core - Windows x86 (http://coinshield.io/binaries/windows-x86.zip)

We removed the internal miners, it is unnecessary code considering we took the time to write external miners.
So to mine, you must download a CPU Miner, or compile it from my Github (http://github.com/VidereLicet)

Here are compiled binaries for the CPU Prime Miner [x64 coming soon]:
Primeminer - Windows x86 (http://coinshield.io/binaries/primeminer-x86.zip) If you want a linux binary for the primeminer, let us know and Videlicet will compile one.



CSD- Unique Features

The following features are unique to Coinshield and were created by Videlicet.


SK Hashing: Increased Security
SK-1024, SK-512, and SK-256 hashes used for Coinshield Core (to replace SHA2). It is Skein (second runner up in NIST SHA3 Competition) and Keccak (New SHA3 Standard) hashed together. Coinshield is the first to run as a pure SHA3 network.

The SK templates range from SK64 to SK1024. Here is the usage of each SK hashing template:

SK64: Hash for Modifier Checksum as second fingerprint for Decentralized Checkpoints.
SK256: Hash to generate an Address from your Public Key Hash.
SK512: Hash for Transaction
SK576: Hash of Public Keys, which is then Hashed with SK256 to generate your Address.
SK1024: Hash for Block Generation. Used by both the CPU and GPU miners [and Stake Minting] to create new Blocks.


Private Key Upgrades:
Using the EC_KEY algorithms allocated in OpenSSL, Coinshield has upgraded the private keys to a non prime based elliptical curve encryption of 571 bits. This was the largest algorithm that was available, and also not dependent on prime numbers. The reason for this is simple: Coinshield CPU Miners are searching for very large prime numbers, so if any 'discoveries' happen from such actions, it could compromise the whole private key system. The exact algorithm Coinshield uses is secp571r1 compared to sect256k1 that is utilized by most cryptocurrencies today. This compliments the upgraded hashing algorithms to ensure the highest security possible by today's standard.


Coinshield will use Multiple Mining Channels + Proof of Stake
Coinshield has more options as a miner to help make the distribution as fair as possible. Dense Prime Clusters are found on the CPU channel from an SK1024 hash, while GPU miners do conventional SK1024 hashing. Each channel has its own difficulty adjustments and released rewards. The block trust is calculated to prevent streaks per channel, so in other words a different channel block will always break a streak of 2 or more blocks on a single channel. This makes each mining channel reinforce each other to prevent a 51% attack on any of them forcing an attacker to need 51% of all 3 mining channels [CPU, GPU, POS].


CSD Unified Time Model - Synchronizes Clocks Worldwide
Miners can no longer try to gain an unfair advantage by manipulating their clocks. The Unified Time System synchronizes your clocks worldwide from an initial time seed. This seed is then propagated through the network, and maintained. Once the seed is held in the network, it can be retrieved from any node making this a Decentralized, Trustless, Clock synchronization method. Another function is to reduce any dependencies on centralized sources, such as Network Time Protocol [NTP] which has just been found to have very large Amplifiction Attack Vectors [In other words, anything running NTP is vulnerable to DDOS].

The difficulty with this time system though, is that each computer sees a second 1-2 microseconds from each other, which means computer clocks are always drifting + - 2 seconds per day. The way Coinshield has compensated for this is by keeping the Unified Average Moving, so that we get the most recent time seeds from last X hours. This allows the clocks to stay tight, but slightly fluid. The LLP Clock Regulator periodically grabs the Unified Seed from the Seed nodes to continually build and move this average. We usually see about + or - 1 second over a day or so.


CSD Fractional Rewarding - Prevents Inflation / Locks Distribution to Timed Release
Coinshield will use a fractional rewarding system, this helps to ensure coin generation stays “on target” regardless of the number of blocks actually being created by the miners. It will be based per mining channel, which means each channel is awarded 50% of the time released supply (to keep distribution fair). No more instamine. Multipools will no longer profit.


No More Block Reward Halving
Coinshield was designed to have longevity, and be a stable container for wealth for many years to come. This is why Coinshield block reward will never half over night. Coins produced per minute is based on a slow decaying curve. This eases shock to the market by following a very natural time based curve. Mining should be considered “long-term” (~1% inflation after 10 years).


SK-1024 (New GPU Mining Algorithm)
Skein-1024 will be hashed to Keccak-1600 to produce an SK-1024 hash.


Prime Search (New CPU Mining Algorithm)
 This was created for the betterment of Mathematics and Number Theory. CPU miner will look for dense prime number clusters from a 1024 bit hash (~308 digits). This will help in the proving / disproving of The Twin Prime Conjecture, Polignac's Conjecture, and The Hardy-Littlewood Conjecture.


Shield Target Difficulty
This is an asymmetrical difficulty adjustment which gives higher priority to reduction in difficulty than inflation. This will keep the blockchain from getting 'stuck' for periods of time. The second aspect is that of reduced difficulty if too much supply has been released. This will continually reduce the difficulty as long as there is more than 8 minutes of supply available. From this point, miners will be getting a Full Subsidy while the difficulty deflates, to ensure more stimulation in block production, rather than difficulty.


Decentralized Checkpoints
We are really happy how this one came together, it became much simpler than our initial system. It works by passing a checkpoint that is flagged from being the block to set a new time interval through the blockchain onto another time interval. Once this new time interval is reached, that pending checkpoint becomes hardened and a new pending checkpoint is flagged. Currently this Testnet has a Checkpoint Timespan of 10 minutes which means, after you send a transaction, it will be behind a Checkpoint within 10 minutes. This helps to further prevent attackers from causing any harm, for they are only able even with 51% of all three Mining Channels to reorganize the chain for the past 10 minutes. The Checkpointing also uses the Stake Modifier Checksum generated from a CBlockIndex as a second fingerprint for the Checkpoint, so each checkpoint operates on a pair of Stake Modifier and Block Hash for extra security. Stake modifier checkpoints before were hard coded into kernel.cpp, and manually updated as with Peercoin.


Lower Level Protocol
The LLP uses template classes to allow anyone to 'build your own protocol' without having the need for any Network Programming knowledge. It gets rid of the "1 connection per thread" limitation still lingering on a lot of servers, to allow it to scale to your hardware maximums. We maxed the bandwidth on a Server before it broke 1% CPU usage. These results come from the simplicity, but power of this protocol. From these templates, we developed two extra Protocols for Coinshield Core, the Core LLP and the Mining LLP.

The Core LLP is responsible for the Unified Time functions, to have the quickest responses from the Server to ensure the Time Seed isn't diluted by Network Propagation. We have personally ran tests with no allowable clock drift with no forks, but to be sure this Testnet is running with an 8 second allowable clock drift.

The Mining LLP is what miners will connect to in order to generate blocks. This protocol allows any developer to 'plug and play' the LLP Client into their miner to remove the need for Network Programming associated with Mining. In my opinion, the focus of a miner developer should be in the optimization of their algorithms, not messing around with tedious Sockets.

Lower Level Protocol also has built in DDOS protection that functions on a moving average to determine your Score. You as a Client will have a Request Score and a Connection Score. This is because certain operating systems have limitations on the maximum active sockets, and their corresponding timeouts so if you go over 200 Connection Requests per Second without modifying this data, your whole Network Interface will reboot. Not a fun experience. The moving average makes the DDOS protection based on Throttled Requests rather than Normal LLP Request. This helps to distinguish the difference between real traffic, and an active DDOS attack. The more a Client gets banned, the longer they will be banned for to also give slight tolerance to the average user if their client accidentally pushes the requests over the limit [could be public wifi with same IP, etc.]





Coinshield: Shitcoin Cleanup

Destroying a coin in the following context means to reduce the coins value to a minimum, and keep it there.

What Does Coinshield Do?
Coinshield will rid the industry of shit/clone coins. It will crash the economies of these coins, and in the process expand its value. It will set a standard to what is accepted by the community and what is not. It will effectively let all coin developers know that if they release another clone they are just wasting their time, because the coinshield community will kill it. They will not profit from it. Ever! Coinshield will provide security for all innovated coins. Coins that show innovation will be granted Coin Shield Verification (more on this below). Coinshield will help every trader that has fallen victim to buying and holding shit coins and now find themselves in the red. Not only will Coinshield help you get your money back, it will be your tool to declare that coin shit, and effectively destroy it. Coinshield is the tool/coin that will take this industry from "the wild west" where anyone can just copy any coin and expect a return to an industry of innovation.


How Does Coinshield Do All That?
There is a long version and a short version answer to this question. The short version is simple: YOU! Let me explain. The Coinshield process begins when a user of our community (sign up and register your username now before someone else does http://coinshieldtalk.org (http://coinshieldtalk.org)) creates a petition declaring that "Flyingtoes Coin" is a shitcoin and needs to be stopped (of course we all know "Flyingtoes Coin" is not a real coin, this just an example). This petition will contain a poll (so users of the community can vote if the coin is a shitcoin or not), and an argument as to why the OP feels so strongly that the coin is a shitcoin and needs to be destroyed.

If The Community Agrees
If the petition gains majority support, it is passed continuing to the next step on its journey into a faded memory. Each "winner" will be put to vote on our main page (http://coinshield.io (http://coinshield.io)). We will then chose the coin with the most votes and deem it the shittiest of all shitcoins. After winning that title it is then given a once in a life time opportunity (mainly because it will be dead shortly after) of moving on to the final stage of being destroyed. It will then be added to our trading section of our site.

Trading Section?
That's right. We can't just figure out how to kill a shitcoin and say too bad to all the shitcoin holders. It's not their fault that the coins they were holding were deemed to be shit and will die. So we figured out a way to make this process a win(Coin Holder) - win(Coin Shield) - win(Industry). We will take your shit coin and give you Coinshield. Each coin that gets added to our trading section will get a trade "channel" . Here users will be given their own deposit address and will view an exchange rate. This exchange rate is not static. How much CSD you receive is decided by a very complex algorithm which will take into account the following:
  • How many buy orders the shitcoin has
  • The shitcoins value
  • Coinshields value
  • Total amount of shitcoin transferred to channel prior.
  • Total market cap of that shitcoin.
Please keep in mind the first traders WILL make THE MOST PROFIT just for giving us shitcoins! The way the algorithm works will allow a profit to be made here...but only if you are one of the first few transaction it made. Keep in mind with every trade the system does the amount of Coinshield you receive will be less and less. This is because as soon as the system receives the 1st shitcoin the destruction of that coin begins and its value begins to drop.

The Death Of The Shitcoin.... Oh Did We Forget To Mention You Earn Even More Money From This?
You might be asking yourself why does Coinshield want your shitcoins? Well as it turns out we don't. As soon as the system gets them, they are automatically transferred to the nearest exchange! (Okay maybe not the nearest but the one with the highest buy order). Once in that exchange, they are dumped on that buy order. This will not only begin to crash their value, it will also generate Bitcoins! The Coinshield Exchange System will then use these Bitcoins to build buy walls. Coinshield does not just destroy a shitcoin, it also absorbs their economy! Remember those shitcoins you traded to us for Coinshield? Well not only did we use them to kill that coin we also used them to raise the value of the coins we gave you. Amazing right? well it doesn't end here...

What Is Coinshield Verified?
Coinshield's purpose is to promote innovation and to aid in the prevention of non-innovated coins. When a coin becomes Coinshield Verified, it means it is immune to the Exchange Channels. It is then protected against forgery, because if another coin clones it, we will open a trade channel for that coin without a petition ever being made to expedite its death.

Who Decides What Coin Is Coinshield Verified?
Well once again there is a long and a short answer. The short is simple: YOU! Anyone (Dev's included) who want any coin to become Coinshield Verified can go over to our forum (As mentioned above please sign up, register your username now before someone else does http://coinshieldtalk.org (http://coinshieldtalk.org)) and submit a petition to become Coinshield Verified. These petitions will have a voting poll and all supporting facts as to why the said coin is not a shitcoin. The community will discuss it and vote. Once verified, the coin will gain a rank from Coinshield Verified Ranks on main website by a voting system. This allows investors to get a decent idea of what is good, and what is shit.  
Shitcoin Cleanup is simply a tool for everyone to use... or not use.




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Now For The Fun Stuff:
Maximum Supply: ~ 100 Million [3% Annual Inflation after 10 Years]
Block Times: 1 Minutes
Block Reward [Miners]:50 * e^(-0.0000011 * nHeight * [Chain Time Modular]) + 1
Block Reward [Channels - Coin Trade in]:10 * e^(-0.00000055 * nHeight * [Chain Time Modular]) + 1
Block Reward [Developers]:1 * e^(-0.00000059 * nHeight * [Chain Time Modular]) + 0.04
Mining Channels: [CPU] Prime Search, [GPU] SK-1024
Difficulty Retarget: Shield Target [Chain, Channel, and Time Proportions]
Proof of Stake: 1 Month, 2 Year Limit, 2% Annual Inflation
Coinbase Maturity: 360 Blocks ~ 6 Hours
Transaction Confirmation: 5 Blocks ~ 5 Minute
CoinShieldTalk Forum: coinshieldtalk.org (http://"http://")
Premine: None

SUPPORT: CLICK HERE (http://"http://coinshieldtalk.org/forum/coin/technical-support/63-support-guidelines")
Though we try, we are not always able to reply to bitcointalk.org posts.
The best place of support for Coin Shield is coinshieldtalk.org.



Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: sdersdf3 on September 17, 2014, 10:15:28 AM
OP has been updated. 11 new features in all. Good work Viz. Countdown has been added.
Please Note:This coin will go live on:The Equinox [9/23/2014 12:00 PM CDT]
Countdown: http://[Suspicious link removed]/Zonumm




haven't followed this closely - has there been a long delay in getting this off the ground? if so, why?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 17, 2014, 08:20:26 PM
sdersdf3,

If you read through the features, you will come to see that development takes time.

The delays came from my perseverance to build unique and useful features for a coin, and not settle for anything less. Keep in mind it took Satoshi a few years to build Bitcoin, now; I compliment that same work by enhancing and reconstructing the original code base.

It only takes a day to clone a coin, but takes months to build one.

Viz.

------------------------------------

Graham and Skunk,

As previously stated in my update, I said one reason for the Testnet launch is to ensure that everyone who wanted to be involved would have a binary to use. Graham you pointed out to use boost 1.55, and skunk you said the binary wouldn't load. I compiled using boost 1.55 and updated the linking to static, lastly changed the archiving format as there seemed to be issues with the previous zip. From my tests, the Ubuntu binaries look good; but if anyone continues to experience issues, would like it compiled for different version of linux, or any other request, please do not hesitate to let me know.

Ubuntu Wallet (http://coinshield.io/binaries/ubuntu-x86.tar.gz)

Thank You,
Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: gjhiggins on September 17, 2014, 08:56:18 PM
Graham and Skunk,
I compiled using boost 1.55 and updated the linking to static

I can confirm that the Qt wallet now executes and syncs on 14.04.

Cheers

Graham
 


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 17, 2014, 09:20:32 PM
Graham and Skunk,
I compiled using boost 1.55 and updated the linking to static

I can confirm that the Qt wallet now executes and syncs on 14.04.

Cheers

Graham
 

Graham,

Thanks for the confirmation =)

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: gjhiggins on September 17, 2014, 10:39:16 PM
Thanks for the confirmation =)

Oh, I forgot to mention, the Ubuntu CoinShield tray icon has a white background. You might want to change that to transparent.

Cheers

Graham


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 17, 2014, 11:06:39 PM
Graham,

Yes - good observation - they aren't saved in *.png format retaining the transparency. I believe the graphic designer is working on that along with updated graphics for the main site. I'll be sure to post that update in testnet2 [in a few days].

Thank You,
Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: skunk on September 18, 2014, 12:14:05 AM
thank you viz, the wallet is working fine on the testnet as the miner does:
Code:
Initializing Miner 127.0.0.1:4447 Threads = 8 Timeout = 10
Connected to 127.0.0.1:4447...
[MASTER] Coinshield Network: New Block 7499
[METERS] 16582.833333 SPS | 23.500000 PPS | Height = 7499
[METERS] 20925.166667 SPS | 27.000000 PPS | Height = 7499
[MASTER] Prime Cluster of Difficulty 2.620089 Found on Thread 6

d7976c52cb19e2642f7956437a3d44b10802e230b08ebeef3b3e180c45a58af9dc8e9cda9674e1498bf0cf3dae58bd1d15fde53117e4e8d0887386e7623bd29e074b398b6d8563e18f078c409c6c67dbe078ad4a183856da42d1ea5298c06737c2147d413789f8e6180668ee713535f47b2f4dacba0569403d5fef74b0c3a955

[MASTER] Block Accepted By Coinshield Network.
[MASTER] Coinshield Network: New Block 7500
[METERS] 17919.166667 SPS | 26.666667 PPS | Height = 7500
[METERS] 20769.500000 SPS | 25.833333 PPS | Height = 7500
[METERS] 20565.500000 SPS | 27.333333 PPS | Height = 7500
[MASTER] Coinshield Network: New Block 7501
[METERS] 20810.333333 SPS | 29.166667 PPS | Height = 7501
[METERS] 19719.500000 SPS | 28.666667 PPS | Height = 7501
[METERS] 20904.166667 SPS | 30.833333 PPS | Height = 7501
[METERS] 21052.333333 SPS | 30.500000 PPS | Height = 7501
[METERS] 20885.000000 SPS | 33.000000 PPS | Height = 7501
[METERS] 20956.000000 SPS | 28.666667 PPS | Height = 7501
[METERS] 20906.333333 SPS | 32.500000 PPS | Height = 7501
[METERS] 21338.333333 SPS | 26.166667 PPS | Height = 7501
[MASTER] Coinshield Network: New Block 7502
[METERS] 19038.833333 SPS | 27.333333 PPS | Height = 7502
[METERS] 20952.333333 SPS | 29.833333 PPS | Height = 7502
[METERS] 20975.333333 SPS | 27.000000 PPS | Height = 7502
i see you're putting a lot of effort on this project and i'm getting good vibrations, so i'm looking forward to see this coin at least as useful and valuable as monero ;)
will the gpu miner be available at launch? for both nvidia and amd cards?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: IMJim on September 18, 2014, 12:37:49 AM
And the long anticipated wait is almost over:-)


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 18, 2014, 12:42:14 AM
Skunk,

Thank You for the kind words :D

As far as I know with the GPU Miner, Bitslapper is in final debugging of the AMD version and will be ready with that for launch. He stated earlier he setup the project for easy CUDA integration, so I am suspecting the NVIDIA will come post-launch.

Also, I'm working out a segmentation fault with the CPU miner currently, let me know if you encounter the same issue.

Thank You,
Viz.

edit: added clarifying details


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: LTCMAXMYR on September 18, 2014, 12:45:19 AM
 ???windows 7 x86,wallet Error!
MinGW Runtime Assertion
Assertion failed!
file:src\core\block.cpp,line 1074
Expression:block.CheckBlock()


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 18, 2014, 01:08:49 AM
???windows 7 x86,wallet Error!
MinGW Runtime Assertion
Assertion failed!
file:src\core\block.cpp,line 1074
Expression:block.CheckBlock()


Be sure to update your binaries. This was an issue with yesterday's upload, and is now resolved. I just personally tested and executed the download on Windows 7 without receiving that error.

Viz.



Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: LTCMAXMYR on September 18, 2014, 03:57:03 AM
i see the cpuminer code,the prime POW alg have sick,it may be 10~20x speed improvement ,,,
and the GPU algo is SK1024(BEGIN(nVersion), END(nNonce))  ???
if so,GPU will have 2x improvement
you should check the algo,and delay somedays,
or there will be unfair lunch,,someone will use private optimized miner


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 18, 2014, 05:13:12 AM
LTCMAXMYR,

The concentration currently is getting the proper pieces in place before launch; yes you are correct: there are vast speed improvements that can be done on both miners, the snag: I have other tasks on my TODO list more pressing than optimizing miners.

I would hope that people of the community would offer their code if improvements were made, but as you suggest this is an unrealistic expectation. There is only so much one can do within a given time-frame, and the time-frame has been set.

Viz.



Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: skunk on September 18, 2014, 12:33:24 PM
viz, be prepared to hear a lot of people screaming about unfair launch if letting out nvidia card owners...
if the launch can't be delayed anymore, i would suggest to at least hold back gpu mining, however i'm not sure if it's possible code wise.
you can also offer a bounty for optimizing the miners code: wolf0, djm34 and cbuchner1 are the coders i'm aware of with enough skills for accomplishing this task...
excluding optimized private miners is the key for a fair launch imho (read the cryptonite thread and you'll find out why).


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 18, 2014, 04:31:14 PM
skunk,

The unfortunate circumstances are:


A] Bitcoin has been falling, the clone coins are sucking the life from it; this is becoming more pressing as the days pass on.
B] SK1024 requires a completely different kernel than any other miner currently, all public variations of Skein or Keccak I have seen are using sphlib kernels for 256 bit. I don't know what the turn-around time would be for 1024bit miner optimizers.
C] The amount of money I can offer in bounty would be negligible to the profits received from a private miner, so what incentive would any of these developers have to even supply the public with the fully optimized miner?


You raise good points skunk, I'm just looking at the realities now. I would be happy to hear more if you see any points where my logic is flawed.

Thank You,
Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: skunk on September 18, 2014, 04:53:57 PM
skunk,

The unfortunate circumstances are:


A] Bitcoin has been falling, the clone coins are sucking the life from it; this is becoming more pressing as the days pass on.
B] SK1024 requires a completely different kernel than any other miner currently, all public variations of Skein or Keccak I have seen are using sphlib kernels for 256 bit. I don't know what the turn-around time would be for 1024bit miner optimizers.
C] The amount of money I can offer in bounty would be negligible to the profits received from a private miner, so what incentive would any of these developers have to even supply the public with the fully optimized miner?


You raise good points skunk, I'm just looking at the realities now. I would be happy to hear more if you see any points where my logic is flawed.

Thank You,
Viz.
regarding point a, i fail to see the point how this could affect coinshield...
regarding point b instead what about holding back sk1024 for now and start as a cpu only coin at first? when both cuda and opencl miners will be ready you can announce the opening for gpu mining and nobody (trolls apart) will argue about unfair launch...
finally regarding point c, i propose the same i've proposed to monero's crew for rising funds, even for bounties or for the developers: creating a weekly lottery based on the block hash, where the winner shares the jackpot with the donation bucket (yes, yet another coin feature).
just trying to inspire you ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 18, 2014, 05:12:03 PM
skunk,

Good points, Thank You  :D

For point A, the reason I say this is Coinshield is here to help enhance Bitcoin not the other way around. That's why I have been feeling it pressing as the clone coins are harming Bitcoin and the work that has been put into it by Satoshi and the Bitcoin Developers.

For B and C: This is definitely a possibility, I can put a time-lock on the GPU channel for a given date post-launch while the miners are continuing their development, each channel operates independent of one another. The problem I see though, is that the difficulty will deflate for the GPU's until the released reserve is depleted [So that GPU miners get the same rewards as CPU no matter the time of channel launch] which will cause very rapid block production for that time. This may make it unfair, but it may also be the fairest option.

There is a developer fund from which I can pay bounties, but not until post-launch. Do you know anyone personally that you believe we can trust to supply an optimized NVIDIA miner? This does seem like the right way to go to ensure everyone gets in on the launch floor, it would just need to be coordinated with the correct minds in my opinion to ensure it was released honestly.


Viz.



Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: skunk on September 18, 2014, 05:59:03 PM
For point A, the reason I say this is Coinshield is here to help enhance Bitcoin not the other way around. That's why I have been feeling it pressing as the clone coins are harming Bitcoin and the work that has been put into it by Satoshi and the Bitcoin Developers.
bitcoin is here to stay like coinshield, monero and maybe some other coin, i've reasons to think this is just the last dip (buy!) before the rally :)
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For B and C: This is definitely a possibility, I can put a time-lock on the GPU channel for a given date post-launch while the miners are continuing their development, each channel operates independent of one another. The problem I see though, is that the difficulty will deflate for the GPU's until the released reserve is depleted [So that GPU miners get the same rewards as CPU no matter the time of channel launch] which will cause very rapid block production for that time. This may make it unfair, but it may also be the fairest option.
you know better than me about this coin, since a fair launch is in your own interest, i'm confident you'll do the right choice ;)
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There is a developer fund from which I can pay bounties, but not until post-launch. Do you know anyone personally that you believe we can trust to supply an optimized NVIDIA miner? This does seem like the right way to go to ensure everyone gets in on the launch floor, it would just need to be coordinated with the correct minds in my opinion to ensure it was released honestly.
unfortunately i'm into cryptocurrencies since only few months so i can't tell you who you can trust, but here's what i've learned about the users i've mentioned in previous posts:

djm34: nice and very skilled guy, he added and optimized new algos to ccminer for the last months. he's probably your best option to spend a bounty
cbuchner1: another nice and very skilled guy, it's the original developer of both cudaminer and ccminer, unfortunately he's not very active anymore on the forums and on gitgub, but i'm sure he's still developing private miners if something worthfull is launched
wolf0: yet another skilled guy, but needs to be motivated (read rewarded) for releasing to the public his code (he's usually selling his extremely optimized miners)

again, each of them can do the job for the right bounty, you can read about or contact them on the cudaminer/ccminer thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=167229.0)


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: gjhiggins on September 18, 2014, 06:47:50 PM
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If the petition gains majority support

How do you intend to calculate a majority? Will the calculation be made public?

Cheers

Graham


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 18, 2014, 07:38:21 PM
skunk,

Good information, I'll consider this. Thank You  :)

I have to make a decision on what is most fair, and as far as I see it, I have a responsibility to the whole: CPU Miners, Traders, GPU Miners [AMD], and GPU Miners [NVIDIA]. I have to approach this decision with all factors in mind.

-----------------

Graham,

The way we have it designed as of now is a voting poll on the petition powered by vBulletin. Once the votes on said petition go over a given threshold, and the facts are all verified the decision will be made. This will put the Coin on a voting channel on main site, in which it will gain rank with other petitioned coins. At a given date the coin with the most votes on this page will have a trading channel opened. This is when traders will be free to transfer that coin into the channel in exchange for Coinshield.

While the Coin is on the main site voting channel [before a trading channel is opened], this is when it would be time for appeals to remove from voting. This would have to contain the same supporting facts and community involvement as would its petition. If however, there is significant controversy concerning its appeal, and it is the winning coin [to get an exchange channel], the next coin on the list would be chosen to allow the controversial petitions/appeals extra time to sort out the veracity of both arguments.

Any suggestions are always welcome; as we figure, two layers of voting should allow time for the truth to shine through, but more minds always strengthens an idea.

Thank You,
Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: KryptoKash on September 20, 2014, 02:27:21 AM
Voting Has Begun!!!

Current Petitions For CoinShield Verification:
Negotium (NTM)- http://coinshieldtalk.org/forum/coin/petitions-for-coinshield-verification2/103-negotium-ntm-coin
NXT (No real info given, If you know anything about this coin please voice your opinion or submit a new petition)- http://coinshieldtalk.org/forum/coin/petitions-for-coinshield-verification2/91-nxt


Current Petitions For Destroying/Absorbing Economy:

Unumcoin- http://coinshieldtalk.org/forum/coin-shield-talk/shitcoin-petitions/107-unumcoin-no-more-pools-one-exchange-barely-moving-blockchain
DigitalCommerce  (No info given, If you know anything about this coin please voice your opinion or submit a new petition)- http://coinshieldtalk.org/forum/coin-shield-talk/shitcoin-petitions/105-digitalcommerce


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: phzi on September 20, 2014, 02:34:01 AM
Voting Has Begun!!!

Current Petitions For CoinShield Verification:
Negotium (NTM)- http://coinshieldtalk.org/forum/coin/petitions-for-coinshield-verification2/103-negotium-ntm-coin
NXT (No real info given, If you know anything about this coin please voice your opinion or submit a new petition)- http://coinshieldtalk.org/forum/coin/petitions-for-coinshield-verification2/91-nxt


Current Petitions For Destroying/Absorbing Economy:

Unumcoin- http://coinshieldtalk.org/forum/coin-shield-talk/shitcoin-petitions/107-unumcoin-no-more-pools-one-exchange-barely-moving-blockchain
DigitalCommerce  (No info given, If you know anything about this coin please voice your opinion or submit a new petition)- http://coinshieldtalk.org/forum/coin-shield-talk/shitcoin-petitions/105-digitalcommerce

Can't register on the forums... There is nothing next to "Antispam, complete the task", and it throws an error when I click Complete Signup.  Using Chrome 37.0.2062.120 (latest stable).

As for the coins...  NXT probably deserves verification.  I would say Negotium (NTM) should be on the shitlist, not the protection list...  It's a clone if I ever saw one - they don't even have a revision history on github, and no code updates since 5 months ago on initial release.  We need a Petitions For Destroying/Absorbing Economy for Negotium.  If crap coins like that can be listed in the petitions for coinshield verficiation, something is very wrong with this system. 

I think we need a third option in the CoinShield Verification petitions - Yes; No; and No, Destroy/Absorb Economy.  Then, if you put your coin up for verification and it offers no innovation, it can be directly punished and listed for destruction.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: KryptoKash on September 20, 2014, 02:36:34 AM
Voting Has Begun!!!

Current Petitions For CoinShield Verification:
Negotium (NTM)- http://coinshieldtalk.org/forum/coin/petitions-for-coinshield-verification2/103-negotium-ntm-coin
NXT (No real info given, If you know anything about this coin please voice your opinion or submit a new petition)- http://coinshieldtalk.org/forum/coin/petitions-for-coinshield-verification2/91-nxt


Current Petitions For Destroying/Absorbing Economy:

Unumcoin- http://coinshieldtalk.org/forum/coin-shield-talk/shitcoin-petitions/107-unumcoin-no-more-pools-one-exchange-barely-moving-blockchain
DigitalCommerce  (No info given, If you know anything about this coin please voice your opinion or submit a new petition)- http://coinshieldtalk.org/forum/coin-shield-talk/shitcoin-petitions/105-digitalcommerce

Can't register on the forums... There is nothing next to "Antispam, complete the task", and it throws an error when I click Complete Signup.  Using Chrome 37.0.2062.120 (latest stable).

As for the coins...  NXT probably deserves verification.  I would say Negotium (NTM) should be on the shitlist, not the protection list...  It's a clone if I ever saw one - they don't even have a revision history on github, and no code updates since 5 months ago on initial release.  We need a Petitions For Destroying/Absorbing Economy for Negotium.
Thank you for letting me know. It works on my chrome...same version. No worries I have deactivated that captcha and will add security questions instead.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: phzi on September 20, 2014, 02:38:03 AM
Can't register on the forums... There is nothing next to "Antispam, complete the task", and it throws an error when I click Complete Signup.  Using Chrome 37.0.2062.120 (latest stable).
Thank you for letting me know. It works on my chrome...same version. No worries I have deactivated that captcha and will add security questions instead.
Thanks - able to register now.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: KryptoKash on September 20, 2014, 02:44:20 AM
Can't register on the forums... There is nothing next to "Antispam, complete the task", and it throws an error when I click Complete Signup.  Using Chrome 37.0.2062.120 (latest stable).
Thank you for letting me know. It works on my chrome...same version. No worries I have deactivated that captcha and will add security questions instead.
Thanks - able to register now.
Perfect! If you have any suggestion on anything we should add to the forum please let us know.   :)


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: enerbyte on September 20, 2014, 06:04:28 AM
very interesting project, wallet and miner working!


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: KryptoKash on September 20, 2014, 06:26:38 AM
very interesting project, wallet and miner working!
Thank you, Be sure to register on our forum as well  :)... petitions are picking up. http://coinshieldtalk.org


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: enerbyte on September 20, 2014, 06:49:48 AM
very interesting project, wallet and miner working!
Thank you, Be sure to register on our forum as well  :)... petitions are picking up. http://coinshieldtalk.org

Done! registered!


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: LTCMAXMYR on September 20, 2014, 01:48:53 PM
has the pool prepared ?
or only solo mining?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 20, 2014, 02:41:40 PM
LTCMAXMYR,

I'm going to develop a pool for CPU and GPU miners post-launch. Solo mining for now.

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: jorneyflair on September 22, 2014, 03:08:30 PM
 ;D its time to make huge profit with private gpu miner? its another "cpu" algo coin ,  you know it ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: yampi on September 22, 2014, 04:09:08 PM
;D its time to make huge profit with private gpu miner? its another "cpu" algo coin ,  you know it ;)

it can be mined with both a gpu and a cpu.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 22, 2014, 06:17:00 PM

Actually, I spent quite a bit of time designing the multiple channels to only recieve 50% of the total supply, CPU miners get exactly half, GPU miners get exactly half. This should reduce the impact any private GPU miners could have on the everyday CPU miners, the second factor will be a continually updated public GPU miner.

Making some final touches, will be releasing launch binaries tonight with a time-lock for tomorrow at noon. Depending on the level of GPU miner development, I will have a time-lock on the GPU channel [for a given time post-launch, hopeful for the time-lock to be tomorrow] which will reject all GPU blocks until that time. Once the channel becomes active, the CSD Released Reserve will be given to that channel in pieces for the time it was dormant, or in other words: no matter when the GPU channel launches, GPU miners will receive the same amount of CSD from the Main Net Time-Lock as the CPU Miners, and this will be broken into ~63 CSD chunks for wider spread distribution.

Viz.

we need to think in terms of practically fair  :)


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: yampi on September 22, 2014, 06:31:45 PM

Actually, I spent quite a bit of time designing the multiple channels to only recieve 50% of the total supply, CPU miners get exactly half, GPU miners get exactly half. This should reduce the impact any private GPU miners could have on the everyday CPU miners, the second factor will be a continually updated public GPU miner.

Making some final touches, will be releasing launch binaries tonight with a time-lock for tomorrow at noon. Depending on the level of GPU miner development, I will have a time-lock on the GPU channel [for a given time post-launch, hopeful for the time-lock to be tomorrow] which will reject all GPU blocks until that time. Once the channel becomes active, the CSD Released Reserve will be given to that channel in pieces for the time it was dormant, or in other words: no matter when the GPU channel launches, GPU miners will receive the same amount of CSD from the Main Net Time-Lock as the CPU Miners, and this will be broken into ~63 CSD chunks for wider spread distribution.

Viz.

we need to think in terms of practically fair  :)

What if a private gpu miner for prime chaining appears?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 22, 2014, 06:42:25 PM
Then I would create another CPU channel, just the same if a Private ASIC came for the GPU channel.  :) This would then result in 3 mining channels, and more choices for Miners.

Progress is inevitable, all one can do is keep up with it

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Wulfcastle on September 22, 2014, 06:50:21 PM
So when exactly will CoinShield be launching?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 22, 2014, 07:06:32 PM
http://bit.ly/Zonumm

0 days 21 hours 53 minutes 42 seconds

Launch binaries will be released tonight, blocks will begin to be accepted at this time-lock which is hard coded into Coinshield Core.

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: jorneyflair on September 22, 2014, 07:37:36 PM

Actually, I spent quite a bit of time designing the multiple channels to only recieve 50% of the total supply, CPU miners get exactly half, GPU miners get exactly half. This should reduce the impact any private GPU miners could have on the everyday CPU miners, the second factor will be a continually updated public GPU miner.

Making some final touches, will be releasing launch binaries tonight with a time-lock for tomorrow at noon. Depending on the level of GPU miner development, I will have a time-lock on the GPU channel [for a given time post-launch, hopeful for the time-lock to be tomorrow] which will reject all GPU blocks until that time. Once the channel becomes active, the CSD Released Reserve will be given to that channel in pieces for the time it was dormant, or in other words: no matter when the GPU channel launches, GPU miners will receive the same amount of CSD from the Main Net Time-Lock as the CPU Miners, and this will be broken into ~63 CSD chunks for wider spread distribution.

Viz.

we need to think in terms of practically fair  :)

any bounty for a opensource gpu miner?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 22, 2014, 08:09:07 PM
any bounty for a opensource gpu miner?

Yes, but this will not be immediately available [with there being no pre-mine]. There is a development fund outlined in Decay Equation #3 for just this Purpose [so bounties will be given out + 1 or 2 days post-launch]. Currently Bitslapper or whoever else contributes to that development will be the ones receiving that bounty. If you are interested in contributing [or know anyone who is], PM me or send an e-mail to videlicet8@gmail.com.

Thank You,
Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 22, 2014, 11:17:15 PM
Will 64bit binary be available at launch, as for prime search 64bit is generally ALOT faster than 32bit.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 22, 2014, 11:29:58 PM
Here are compiled binaries for the CPU Prime Miner [x64 coming soon]:

I'll get to that post-launch. In the meantime anyone is always welcome to compile one from my Github  :)

Concentrating on a stable launch before mining optimizations
Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 22, 2014, 11:46:18 PM
It would seem unfair to those who can't compile their own binaries that there would be no 64bit version at launch. There is a massive gap between performance from 32bit to 64bit when searching for primes.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 22, 2014, 11:49:34 PM
Yes I completely agree; I will do my best to get a 64 bit binary compiled by tomorrow, but do realize there are a lot of things I must coordinate, and I am currently the only person coordinating.

Thank You,
Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 22, 2014, 11:53:52 PM
Thanks for the reply, appreciate it :)


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 22, 2014, 11:56:13 PM
Thanks for the reply, appreciate it :)

Doing my best to help everyone get involved that wants to  :)

Thank You,
Viz.

currently downloading mingw-x64 and setting up a x64 build environment.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 |11 New Features | Launching 9/23
Post by: KryptoKash on September 23, 2014, 12:57:54 AM
Website has been updated. Homepage is better organized : http://coinshield.io   :)

Please register if you have not done so: http://CoinShieldTalk.com

There are new petitions which require votes.

If you are holding a coin you believe to be shit please submit a petition to have us open an exchange channel for it. This will help you get into the green when you're in the red. The days of backing shitcoins (coins that you deem shit) to try to recover some of your losses are finally over.

Additionally you can now protect the source code of non shitcoins. If you believe a coin is not a shitcoin please submit a petition to get it Coinshield verified. When a coin becomes Coinshield verified the Coinshield community will help keep the value of any clone down to a minimum. No more profits for developers who only copy and paste code together.

Please help spread the word about us.

Thanks,
KryptoKash


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 23, 2014, 02:06:34 AM
Trying to compile on ubuntu 13.10 (its been a while i'm very rusty)
hash/skein.cpp:752:5: fatal error: opening dependency file build/skein.d: No such file or directory
already installed skein package via "apt-get install libghc-skein-dev"
any help appreciated.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 02:12:51 AM
Trying to compile on ubuntu 13.10 (its been a while i'm very rusty)
hash/skein.cpp:752:5: fatal error: opening dependency file build/skein.d: No such file or directory
already installed skein package via "apt-get install libghc-skein-dev"
any help appreciated.

You don't need the Skein package from Ubuntu, it is included in src/hash.

Add the folder build in the directory of makefile.unix, make sure you have openssl and boost installed. The problem I am seeing is that the folder build is not being created. I will fix that, thank you for letting me know.

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 23, 2014, 05:35:52 AM
Trying to compile on ubuntu 13.10 (its been a while i'm very rusty)
hash/skein.cpp:752:5: fatal error: opening dependency file build/skein.d: No such file or directory
already installed skein package via "apt-get install libghc-skein-dev"
any help appreciated.

You don't need the Skein package from Ubuntu, it is included in src/hash.

Add the folder build in the directory of makefile.unix, make sure you have openssl and boost installed. The problem I am seeing is that the folder build is not being created. I will fix that, thank you for letting me know.

Viz.

/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lboost_system
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lboost_filesystem
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lboost_program_options
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lboost_thread
collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
make: *** [coinshield_prime] Error 1

ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install libboost-dev-all
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package libboost-dev-all

I install libbost-dev but it is perhaps missing needed packages?



Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 05:45:44 AM

Everyone,

I'm going to run a couple small tests tonight before I release the Launch Binaries. I will post them tomorrow morning as soon as I wake up.
I'm breaking the Launch into 3 phases, one for each Channel.

Phase 1: CPU Channel Activation:  9/23/2014 12:00:00 GMT - 6
Unix Timestamp: 1411495200

Phase 2: GPU Channel Activation:  10/7/2014 12:00:00 GMT - 6
Unix Timestamp: 1412704800

Phase 3: POS Channel Activation: 10/21/2014 12:00:00 GMT - 6
Unix Timestamp: 1413914400

This will allow more stimulation in development for the GPU Miner, hopefully we can get some people together to get a stable AMD and NVIDIA miner. There will be bounties available to go directly to GPU Miner development. Bitslapper and I will be working on the AMD version while I am hoping to get some people to help build the NVIDIA version.

Please contact me if you have any experience / desire to help in the Coinshield Revolution.

--------------------

merc84,

Try this command to install boost 1.54:
sudo apt-get install libboost-all-dev

Make sure you have the compiler installed as well:
sudo apt-get install build-essential

And for OpenSSL:
sudo apt-get install libssl-dev

Let me know if this works   :)

Viz.



Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 23, 2014, 05:53:14 AM
seems i'm turning dyslexic had the all-dev around the wrong way.

Edit: compiled fine after that :)

Thanks!


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 05:56:38 AM
Well, you said you haven't compiled for a long time, so don't be too hard on yourself  :)

Viz.

edit: Great to hear! To start it you'll need commandline arguments, I usually use alias miner='/home/viz/coinshield-cpuminer/coinshield_prime 127.0.0.1 4447' if you want to control the threads and timeout yourself the next two arguments would be that such as 127.0.0.1 4447 3 10 which would be 3 threads, and 10 second timeout.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: paulthetafy on September 23, 2014, 06:17:22 AM
Testing out the miner on ubuntu 14.  It ran for about 30 seconds, found 3 blocks, and then core dumped...

[MASTER] Prime Cluster of Difficulty 2.751979 Found on Thread 1

fb2c2f81e09ddc5950b6aa22d78ba21bfbd303605e84e7bfe452db177e5d9bd216375d992f1b8f7 c1aff7353833a321a53a9b38889d1294b82a34fb67e2ba7eeb4641bc34d7a02558bd5cb676b1dd5 29edc3f4eba0b7b346b739ea6402263026da0dccc925fff43a996d82bf3c026da92bc443e343dda 11e32b815b92ec2aff0

[MASTER] Block Accepted By Coinshield Network.
[MASTER] Coinshield Network: New Block 18653
[METERS] 13502.666667 SPS | 20.333333 PPS | Height = 18653
[METERS] 19279.333333 SPS | 29.500000 PPS | Height = 18653
[METERS] 19146.333333 SPS | 29.666667 PPS | Height = 18653
Segmentation fault (core dumped)

It was built from source.


Viz, Technical question for you, (and probably a glaringly obvious answer too), I'm looking through the primeminer source and I can't see where each thread is doing different work to the next.  Or where any element of randomness comes in??

Thanks


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 06:41:57 AM
paulthetafy,

The reasons for this segmentation fault is that I am modifying the Block pointer each thread contains by the connection thread, and sometimes they go out of sync. This can be fixed with a faster autoptr or even using more sophisticated locks than my boolean flags.

I'll get to fixing this, I'm thinking for now I'll just release another code base that has one connection per thread, which would eliminate this issue. The Mining LLP can definitely handle it.

As to your question, you'll see in the main function when the Server Connection is declared, it has an argument for how many threads. The Mining Thread class is then instantiated in a vector to the quantity you declare with the commandline arguments that is passed into the Server Connection class constructor. The connection class [with a bound thread] then handles each of the mining threads, modifying the flags if a new block is found on the network, or submitting blocks if the thread sets its fBlockFound flag. This is the optimal way I would like to do it, but will take a little more time with the proper locking techniques to eliminate the segmentation fault [which comes from accessing a memory location not allocated by the operating system for that specified process].

Thank You,
Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: paulthetafy on September 23, 2014, 06:56:02 AM
paulthetafy,

The reasons for this segmentation fault is that I am modifying the Block pointer each thread contains by the connection thread, and sometimes they go out of sync. This can be fixed with a faster autoptr or even using more sophisticated locks than my boolean flags.

I'll get to fixing this, I'm thinking for now I'll just release another code base that has one connection per thread, which would eliminate this issue. The Mining LLP can definitely handle it.

As to your question, you'll see in the main function when the Server Connection is declared, it has an argument for how many threads. The Mining Thread class is then instantiated in a vector to the quantity you declare with the commandline arguments that is passed into the Server Connection class constructor. The connection class [with a bound thread] then handles each of the mining threads, modifying the flags if a new block is found on the network, or submitting blocks if the thread sets its fBlockFound flag. This is the optimal way I would like to do it, but will take a little more time with the proper locking techniques to eliminate the segmentation fault [which comes from accessing a memory location not allocated by the operating system for that specified process].

Thank You,
Viz.


Thanks Viz, I'll see if I can put a simple mutex in to synchronize access to the BLOCK between the threads.  If I get that working I'll shoot you the update. 

Still not sure I understand how each thread is not doing the same "work" though.  Are they looking for different nonce's??


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: KryptoKash on September 23, 2014, 07:24:18 AM
The following was added to the OP:

Launch Dates:
Phase 1: CPU Channel Activation:  9/23/2014 12:00:00 GMT - 6
Unix Timestamp: 1411495200

Phase 2: GPU Channel Activation:  10/7/2014 12:00:00 GMT - 6
Unix Timestamp: 1412704800

Phase 3: POS Channel Activation:
10/21/2014 12:00:00 GMT - 6
Unix Timestamp: 1413914400


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 07:28:18 AM
paulthetafy,

They are looking for the same block at given height, which is linked from uint1024 hashPrevBlock and unsigned int nHeight.

The variation of each block is of the merkle root, you'll see this if you print out the block values as it is received. It is looking for a prime cluster from the SK1024 hash from nVersion to nBits. The nNonce is then used as an offset to the prime cluster to be verified by the network.

The hash is produced from nVersion, hashPrevBlock, hashMerkleRoot, nChannel, nHeight, and nBits which is the fingerprint to that given block in the binary tree [blockchain] which will allow each thread to independently search for a prime cluster from different starting values, but not allow someone to forge a block and try to submit it at a given height. This also prevents any duplicate proof of work to be generated at whim, for in order to generate a proper proof of work block they would need all the values that match for the next block in the Coinshield Network.

Thank you for your willingness to help!  :)

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: jorneyflair on September 23, 2014, 10:37:32 AM
the windows miner will crash in no more than 30 minutes, how do you set 7 threads running while you got 8 ? -t 7 does not work i tried


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 11:11:23 AM
jorneyflair,

Try this batch script, it will automatically restart the miner if it crashes [with 7 threads as per your request].

:BEGIN
miner.exe 127.0.0.1 4447 7
GOTO BEGIN


The commandline arguments are IP PORT THREADS TIMEOUT.
The issue with the miner is an access violation [segmentation fault]. This will be fixed soon, currently making sure the Coinshield Core is tuned properly before launch above fixing that issue.

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: jorneyflair on September 23, 2014, 11:24:07 AM
jorneyflair,

Try this batch script, it will automatically restart the miner if it crashes [with 7 threads as per your request].

:BEGIN
miner.exe 127.0.0.1 4447 7
GOTO BEGIN


The commandline arguments are IP PORT THREADS TIMEOUT.
The issue with the miner is an access violation [segmentation fault]. This will be fixed soon, currently making sure the Coinshield Core is tuned properly before launch above fixing that issue.

Viz.
Thanks dude , i would help to the nvminer code if i were not at the last year in college.
wish you a success ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 11:33:45 AM
jorneyflair,

Thank You  :)
And hey, just don't ever give up and you'll be able to do anything.  ;)

Viz.

edit: I made some minor tweaks to the miner attempting to weed out the segmentation fault, binary is Here (http://coinshield.io/binaries/primeminer-x86.zip). Let me know if you have better results with this version. I also pushed this version to my Github (http://github.com/VidereLicet) for Linux users.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: jorneyflair on September 23, 2014, 12:17:06 PM
jorneyflair,

Thank You  :)
And hey, just don't ever give up and you'll be able to do anything.  ;)

Viz.

edit: I made some minor tweaks to the miner attempting to weed out the segmentation fault, binary is Here (http://coinshield.io/binaries/primeminer-x86.zip). Let me know if you have better results with this version. I also pushed this version to my Github (http://github.com/VidereLicet) for Linux users.
a bit better but still appcrashed , the exact same situation like former one while Linux is OK , you did it with Mingw?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: billotronic on September 23, 2014, 12:18:41 PM
Holy shit is this really going to launch?

I know what I am doing today...


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 12:28:50 PM
a bit better but still appcrashed , the exact same situation like former one while Linux is OK , you did it with Mingw?

Interesting, because I have the reverse: Linux crashes, Windows works. I'll keep getting to the bottom of this, at least that check is off the list. Thank you for your results.

Holy shit is this really going to launch?

Yes it is, running my final tests before Main Net launch [guess there's time later to sleep]  ;)
Activation Timestamp is: 1411495200

Viz.



Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: jorneyflair on September 23, 2014, 12:35:31 PM
a bit better but still appcrashed , the exact same situation like former one while Linux is OK , you did it with Mingw?

Interesting, because I have the reverse: Linux crashes, Windows works. I'll keep getting to the bottom of this, at least that check is off the list. Thank you for your results.

Holy shit is this really going to launch?

Yes it is, running my final tests before Main Net launch [guess there's time later to sleep]  ;)
Activation Timestamp is: 1411495200

Viz.


Im currently using ubuntu 14.04 more often than windows but i think most of people here(except coder) are using windows 7/8 , so the win-miner is also important for launch thongh its time to abandon the microsoft in my opinion , long live the OpenSource! ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 12:40:53 PM
jorneyflair,

I completely agree. Windoze is a terrible operating system, but a necessary evil for the time being.

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: wisnon on September 23, 2014, 01:51:13 PM
win-qt test purse can not be synchronized,
How to test CPU tools?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 23, 2014, 02:03:04 PM
will wallet automatically start to sync from main net at launch time or will it require manual intervention?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: sdersdf3 on September 23, 2014, 02:51:58 PM
Could anyone summarise where this project is headed/when?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 03:04:49 PM
Coinshield is here to help stimulate innovation in the Crypto Currency Industry. For more details you are welcome to check out the OP.

As for syncing, this will be completely automatic, blocks just won't be accepted until the Main Net Time-Lock. GPU blocks won't be accepted until the GPU Time-Lock, and POS blocks won't be accepted until the POS Time-Lock.

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: professionalcasual on September 23, 2014, 04:39:28 PM
Launch binaries posted yet?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: yampi on September 23, 2014, 04:50:03 PM
I dump altcoin exes in a folder in drive C, Coinshield gets it's own folder with it's own icon on my Desktop.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: KryptoKash on September 23, 2014, 04:53:15 PM
Launch binaries posted yet?
9 mins left, Viz is working hard...he will post soon.

I dump altcoin exes in a folder in drive C, Coinshield gets it's own folder with it's own icon on my Desktop.

+1


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: professionalcasual on September 23, 2014, 04:55:29 PM
Launch binaries posted yet?
9 mins left, Viz is grinding away will post soon.

After reading the last few pages I just assumed he probably fell asleep. :)


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Hix on September 23, 2014, 04:57:36 PM
Code:
g++ -c -pthread -static-libgcc -static-libstdc++ -Wall -Wextra -Wno-sign-compare -Wno-invalid-offsetof -Wno-unused-parameter -Wformat -Wformat-security -g -DBOOST_SPIRIT_THREADSAFE -DBOOST_THREAD_USE_LIB -I/home/ubuntu/primeminer -I/home/ubuntu/primeminer/build -I/home/ubuntu/primeminer/hash -O2 -MMD -o build/skein.o hash/skein.cpp
g++ -c -pthread -static-libgcc -static-libstdc++ -Wall -Wextra -Wno-sign-compare -Wno-invalid-offsetof -Wno-unused-parameter -Wformat -Wformat-security -g -DBOOST_SPIRIT_THREADSAFE -DBOOST_THREAD_USE_LIB -I/home/ubuntu/primeminer -I/home/ubuntu/primeminer/build -I/home/ubuntu/primeminer/hash -O2 -MMD -o build/skein_block.o hash/skein_block.cpp
g++ -c -pthread -static-libgcc -static-libstdc++ -Wall -Wextra -Wno-sign-compare -Wno-invalid-offsetof -Wno-unused-parameter -Wformat -Wformat-security -g -DBOOST_SPIRIT_THREADSAFE -DBOOST_THREAD_USE_LIB -I/home/ubuntu/primeminer -I/home/ubuntu/primeminer/build -I/home/ubuntu/primeminer/hash -O2 -MMD -fpermissive -o build/KeccakDuplex.o hash/KeccakDuplex.c
hash/skein.cpp: In function вЂ˜int Skein_256_Final(Skein_256_Ctxt_t*, u08b_t*)’:
hash/skein.cpp:199:29: warning: dereferencing type-punned pointer will break strict-aliasing rules [-Wstrict-aliasing]
         ((u64b_t *)ctx->b)[0]= Skein_Swap64((u64b_t) i); /* build the counter block */
                             ^
hash/skein.cpp: In function вЂ˜int Skein_512_Final(Skein_512_Ctxt_t*, u08b_t*)’:
hash/skein.cpp:397:29: warning: dereferencing type-punned pointer will break strict-aliasing rules [-Wstrict-aliasing]
         ((u64b_t *)ctx->b)[0]= Skein_Swap64((u64b_t) i); /* build the counter block */
                             ^
hash/skein.cpp: In function вЂ˜int Skein1024_Final(Skein1024_Ctxt_t*, u08b_t*)’:
hash/skein.cpp:594:29: warning: dereferencing type-punned pointer will break strict-aliasing rules [-Wstrict-aliasing]
         ((u64b_t *)ctx->b)[0]= Skein_Swap64((u64b_t) i); /* build the counter block */
                             ^
hash/skein.cpp: In function вЂ˜int Skein_256_Output(Skein_256_Ctxt_t*, u08b_t*)’:
hash/skein.cpp:683:29: warning: dereferencing type-punned pointer will break strict-aliasing rules [-Wstrict-aliasing]
         ((u64b_t *)ctx->b)[0]= Skein_Swap64((u64b_t) i); /* build the counter block */
                             ^
hash/skein.cpp: In function вЂ˜int Skein_512_Output(Skein_512_Ctxt_t*, u08b_t*)’:
hash/skein.cpp:712:29: warning: dereferencing type-punned pointer will break strict-aliasing rules [-Wstrict-aliasing]
         ((u64b_t *)ctx->b)[0]= Skein_Swap64((u64b_t) i); /* build the counter block */
                             ^
hash/skein.cpp: In function вЂ˜int Skein1024_Output(Skein1024_Ctxt_t*, u08b_t*)’:
hash/skein.cpp:741:29: warning: dereferencing type-punned pointer will break strict-aliasing rules [-Wstrict-aliasing]
         ((u64b_t *)ctx->b)[0]= Skein_Swap64((u64b_t) i); /* build the counter block */
                             ^
hash/KeccakDuplex.c:89:1: fatal error: opening dependency file build/KeccakDuplex.d: No such file or directory
 }
 ^
compilation terminated.
make: *** [build/KeccakDuplex.o] Error 1
make: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
hash/skein.cpp: At global scope:
hash/skein.cpp:752:5: fatal error: opening dependency file build/skein.d: No such file or directory
     }
     ^
compilation terminated.
hash/skein_block.cpp:676:5: fatal error: opening dependency file build/skein_block.d: No such file or directory
     }
     ^
compilation terminated.
make: *** [build/skein.o] Error 1
make: *** [build/skein_block.o] Error 1
I can`t compile miner. Сan someone help?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 23, 2014, 05:00:04 PM
your answer is just a page back or so :)


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 05:00:24 PM
Unix Timestamp: 1411495200
3534 Seconds from Unified Timestamp ~ 1 Hour
Launch Binaries Released. This is the REAL MAINNET!

Download or compile miner, start with arguments 127.0.0.1 9335
Blocks will be rejected until this time-lock.

Ubuntu (http://coinshield.io/binaries/ubuntu-x86.tar.gz)
Windows (http://coinshield.io/binaries/windows-x86.zip)

Miner (http://coinshield.io/binaries/primeminer-x86.zip)

silence means I'm working, not sleeping  ;D
Get Ready!

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: skunk on September 23, 2014, 05:00:33 PM
I can`t compile miner. Сan someone help?
create the build directory


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Shkembe on September 23, 2014, 05:04:35 PM

20:04:22

{
"blocks" : 0,
"currentblocksize" : 0,
"currentblocktx" : 0,
"difficulty" : 0.00000000,
"errors" : "",
"generate" : false,
"genproclimit" : -1,
"hashespersec" : 0,
"networkghps" : 0.00000000,
"pooledtx" : 0,
"testnet" : false
}


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 23, 2014, 05:05:08 PM
and fail to connect to mining server :?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 05:06:39 PM
and fail to connect to mining server :?

use port 9335

I'm now setting up the Testnet which will accept CPU and GPU blocks. Main Net goes live in 1 hour, looks like the countdown timer was off.

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: billotronic on September 23, 2014, 05:07:47 PM
no source for the wallet?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: KryptoKash on September 23, 2014, 05:10:03 PM
and fail to connect to mining server :?

use port 9335

I'm now setting up the Testnet which will accept CPU and GPU blocks. Main Net goes live in 1 hour, looks like the countdown timer was off.

Viz.
better early then late  ;D sorry guys, I tried to match up Unix Timestamp: 1411495200  to a timezone, I was early by 1 hour  :(  at least we are all ready  ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 05:10:45 PM
no source for the wallet?

The source code will be made fully available post-launch, at the launch of the Coinshield Exchange Channels. I will be releasing Doxygen documentation for the Coinshield Core [Pre Launch] to help amplify just that, trust, while protecting the innovation.

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: billotronic on September 23, 2014, 05:11:47 PM
no source for the wallet?

The source code will be made fully available post-launch, at the launch of the Coinshield Exchange Channels. I will be releasing Doxygen documentation for the Coinshield Core [Pre Launch] to help amplify just that, trust, while protecting the innovation.

Viz.

Sorry, apparently I cannot read.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 23, 2014, 05:11:57 PM
and fail to connect to mining server :?

use port 9335

I'm now setting up the Testnet which will accept CPU and GPU blocks. Main Net goes live in 1 hour, looks like the countdown timer was off.

Viz.

Lol this is the problem dragging urself outta bed 3am local time  ::)


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 23, 2014, 05:12:53 PM
Does everyone else only have 1 active connection?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: wisnon on September 23, 2014, 05:14:40 PM
CPU miner bat how to edit?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: billotronic on September 23, 2014, 05:15:11 PM
Does everyone else only have 1 active connection?

Im showing two

Code:
[
{
"addr" : "204.27.62.226:9333",
"services" : "00000001",
"lastsend" : 1411492352,
"lastrecv" : 1411492354,
"conntime" : 1411492352,
"version" : 10100,
"subver" : "Coinshield Core[vv0.1.0.0]/ DB [0.1.1] PROTOCOL [v0.1.1]",
"inbound" : false,
"releasetime" : 0,
"height" : 0,
"banscore" : 0
},
{
"addr" : "69.195.149.114:9333",
"services" : "00000001",
"lastsend" : 1411492352,
"lastrecv" : 1411492353,
"conntime" : 1411492352,
"version" : 10100,
"subver" : "Coinshield Core[vv0.1.0.0]/ DB [0.1.1] PROTOCOL [v0.1.1]",
"inbound" : false,
"releasetime" : 0,
"height" : 0,
"banscore" : 0
}
]


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: billotronic on September 23, 2014, 05:16:23 PM
CPU miner bat how to edit?

miner.exe 127.0.0.1 9335 8

exe IP PORT THREADS


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: professionalcasual on September 23, 2014, 05:20:24 PM
"Unable to bind to port 9333 on this computer. Coinshield is probably already running."

I have no idea what I'm doing.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: wisnon on September 23, 2014, 05:27:37 PM
Blocks 0 does not move

CPU miner Show all refuse?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 23, 2014, 05:29:25 PM
"Unable to bind to port 9333 on this computer. Coinshield is probably already running."

I have no idea what I'm doing.
Just need have wallet-qt running, then start miner with batfile (assuming ur on windows) miner.exe 127.0.0.1 9335

Gotta hand it to Viz this is the easiest coin i've ever setup for solo:



Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 23, 2014, 05:29:50 PM
Blocks 0 does not move

CPU miner Show all refuse?

should start accepting in 30mins


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: wisnon on September 23, 2014, 05:31:12 PM
CPU performance is no occupation!


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: professionalcasual on September 23, 2014, 05:31:45 PM
"Unable to bind to port 9333 on this computer. Coinshield is probably already running."

I have no idea what I'm doing.
Just need have wallet-qt running, then start miner with batfile (assuming ur on windows) miner.exe 127.0.0.1 9335

Gotta hand it to Viz this is the easiest coin i've ever setup for solo:



The wallet-qt crashes and give me that message as it finishes loading. No idea what the problem is ; testnet worked fine for me.

Oddly the miner also doesn't connect when I use port 9335 but does when I use 9333.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 23, 2014, 05:32:57 PM
"Unable to bind to port 9333 on this computer. Coinshield is probably already running."

I have no idea what I'm doing.
Just need have wallet-qt running, then start miner with batfile (assuming ur on windows) miner.exe 127.0.0.1 9335

Gotta hand it to Viz this is the easiest coin i've ever setup for solo:



The wallet-qt crashes and give me that message as it finishes loading. No idea what the problem is ; testnet worked fine for me.

Oddly the miner also doesn't connect when I use port 9335 but does when I use 9333.

Did u delete the data from the testnet wallet and make sure its no longer running?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 05:34:33 PM
"Unable to bind to port 9333 on this computer. Coinshield is probably already running."

I have no idea what I'm doing.
Just need have wallet-qt running, then start miner with batfile (assuming ur on windows) miner.exe 127.0.0.1 9335

Gotta hand it to Viz this is the easiest coin i've ever setup for solo:



The wallet-qt crashes and give me that message as it finishes loading. No idea what the problem is ; testnet worked fine for me.

Oddly the miner also doesn't connect when I use port 9335 but does when I use 9333.

You must have an application running using port 9333. You won't be able to connect if your wallet isn't active. Port 9333 is the Main Net port, you will have no luck trying to mine to it.

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: professionalcasual on September 23, 2014, 05:37:31 PM
"Unable to bind to port 9333 on this computer. Coinshield is probably already running."

I have no idea what I'm doing.
Just need have wallet-qt running, then start miner with batfile (assuming ur on windows) miner.exe 127.0.0.1 9335

Gotta hand it to Viz this is the easiest coin i've ever setup for solo:



The wallet-qt crashes and give me that message as it finishes loading. No idea what the problem is ; testnet worked fine for me.

Oddly the miner also doesn't connect when I use port 9335 but does when I use 9333.

You must have an application running using port 9333. You won't be able to connect if your wallet isn't active. Port 9333 is the Main Net port, you will have no luck trying to mine to it.

Viz.

Yup. It was my litecoin wallet. Which of course was the last wallet out of like a dozen that I closed. :)


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 05:39:57 PM
Current Unified Timestamp:1411493855
Main Net Time-Lock:1411495200

1,345 Seconds to Launch

Viz.



Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 23, 2014, 05:44:09 PM
Viz, any luck with win 64bit binary or any chance of one soon? Thanks for the hard work!


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Hix on September 23, 2014, 05:45:39 PM
Only coinshield-qt
Where daemon for ubuntu?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 05:47:33 PM
Viz, any luck with win 64bit binary or any chance of one soon? Thanks for the hard work!

Got as far as getting mingw-64 put together, but ended up tuning all night. Had to make final decisions on many things. Once the launch is underway, I'll get to that Binary. I should be able to get it done today as long as everything continues smoothly.

Only coinshield-qt
Where daemon for ubuntu?

I figured nobody used that [but me]  :), I'll compile one right now and upload it in the binary package. Will post when that is up.

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 23, 2014, 06:00:57 PM
Failed to Update Height...


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Mantiska on September 23, 2014, 06:01:42 PM
appcrash :/


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Hix on September 23, 2014, 06:02:31 PM
I figured nobody used that [but me]  :), I'll compile one right now and upload it in the binary package. Will post when that is up.

Viz.
Thank you :)


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 06:03:01 PM
Yes there is an issue, resolving now.

Stand by everyone.

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: gatra on September 23, 2014, 06:03:58 PM
Code:
./coinshield-qt
./coinshield-qt: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.17' not found (required by ./coinshield-qt)


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: skunk on September 23, 2014, 06:10:27 PM
after crashing, the wallet doesn't connect to any node anymore...


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: yampi on September 23, 2014, 06:12:12 PM
Incoming transaction spam lol.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 23, 2014, 06:12:30 PM
good thing i didnt go back to bed


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Shkembe on September 23, 2014, 06:13:12 PM
minning with the wallet isn't possible?
can someone give me the command line for the miner?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 06:13:57 PM
Okay found the issue, small problem. I'm going to re-upload binaries. I apologize, for the delays.

To keep this one fair, this will use new ports, and a new time-lock to reject these old block that just got found. They will not be credited. I'm setting the new time-lock to 30 minutes from now so everyone can get prepared again. The issue was that on the First block Released Rewards need to be put in the Reserve, but it was calculating from 1 minute to 1 minute which made no reserves. This then caused the seed nodes to crash, etc.

Keep posted everyone,
Viz.

New Timelock: 1411497000
Compiling Now... Stand By.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: yampi on September 23, 2014, 06:18:15 PM
Okay found the issue, small problem. I'm going to re-upload binaries. I apologize, for the delays.

To keep this one fair, this will use new ports, and a new time-lock to reject these old block that just got found. They will not be credited. I'm setting the new time-lock to 30 minutes from now so everyone can get prepared again. The issue was that on the First block Released Rewards need to be put in the Reserve, but it was calculating from 1 minute to 1 minute which made no reserves. This then caused the seed nodes to crash, etc.

Keep posted everyone,
Viz.

New Timelock: 1411497000
Compiling Now... Stand By.

These problems only show signs of success.

Because if there is no problems you must not be trying enough.

Patiently waiting for fixed binaries.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Hix on September 23, 2014, 06:20:03 PM
Okay found the issue, small problem. I'm going to re-upload binaries. I apologize, for the delays.

To keep this one fair, this will use new ports, and a new time-lock to reject these old block that just got found. They will not be credited. I'm setting the new time-lock to 30 minutes from now so everyone can get prepared again. The issue was that on the First block Released Rewards need to be put in the Reserve, but it was calculating from 1 minute to 1 minute which made no reserves. This then caused the seed nodes to crash, etc.

Keep posted everyone,
Viz.
with daemon pls)


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 06:23:13 PM
Thanks for the Support guys  ;D

And yes Hix, compiling Daemon as well just for you   :)

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: gatra on September 23, 2014, 06:29:38 PM
Code:
/usr/include/boost/asio/impl/read.hpp:43:3: error: no match for call to ‘(boost::system::error_code) (boost::system::error_code&, std::size_t&)’

I'm getting errors compiling the miner... which version of boost do you use?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: billotronic on September 23, 2014, 06:30:38 PM
Code:
/usr/include/boost/asio/impl/read.hpp:43:3: error: no match for call to ‘(boost::system::error_code) (boost::system::error_code&, std::size_t&)’

I'm getting errors compiling the miner... which version of boost do you use?

if you are on linux then ldd the bin and it will tell you what versions of what it is looking for


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: skunk on September 23, 2014, 06:32:33 PM
Code:
/usr/include/boost/asio/impl/read.hpp:43:3: error: no match for call to ‘(boost::system::error_code) (boost::system::error_code&, std::size_t&)’

I'm getting errors compiling the miner... which version of boost do you use?
install boost development packages


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 23, 2014, 06:36:17 PM
From Viz earlier:
"Try this command to install boost 1.54:"
sudo apt-get install libboost-all-dev


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: SRBOOTH on September 23, 2014, 06:37:12 PM
Running windows qt.....no block source....does it take awhile to pick up nodes?? Or can we addnode and create conf file?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Mantiska on September 23, 2014, 06:37:41 PM
Now 1411497420 (Unix time)
Dev, where bin? :)


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: yampi on September 23, 2014, 06:39:04 PM
I wrote an alarm script just for those time stamps, where those binaries, dev?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 23, 2014, 06:53:40 PM
struggling to stay awake now  :-\


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: KryptoKash on September 23, 2014, 06:56:19 PM
He's working on it guys, its coming  :)


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 07:03:36 PM
Binaries are coming

Time Lock is 1411500000

I'm just making sure we don't have a repeat of this again.

I haven't slept either all night, but we'll get through this together

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: wisnon on September 23, 2014, 07:09:00 PM
Similarly no new wallet nodes are not synchronized!
Also did not launch?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 07:16:16 PM
Final Time-Lock: 1411501800

I've been chasing this time-lock, due to the fact that it takes at least 10 minutes to propagate new binaries to all the seed nodes.
I am in final Compilation right now.

Will post binaries as soon as I get the seed nodes up.


Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 23, 2014, 07:18:16 PM
http://unixtime-converter.com/ very useful atm.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: go6ooo1212 on September 23, 2014, 07:22:25 PM
the tool says after half an hour ?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: KryptoKash on September 23, 2014, 07:23:33 PM
http://unixtime-converter.com/ very useful atm.
Where have you been all my life  ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: KryptoKash on September 23, 2014, 07:24:28 PM
the tool says after half an hour ?
yes it says Tue Sep 23 2014 15:50:00 GMT-0400 (Eastern Standard Time)  that is in about 30 mins


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: SRBOOTH on September 23, 2014, 07:32:12 PM
Can I leave wallet open and it will sync automatically when ready? Or will I need to download new files?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 23, 2014, 07:32:43 PM
Can I leave wallet open and it will sync automatically when ready? Or will I need to download new files?

We are waiting on new wallet binaries.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 07:34:33 PM
New Binaries:

Ubuntu (http://coinshield.io/binaries/ubuntu-x86.tar.gz)
Windows (http://coinshield.io/binaries/windows-x86.zip)

Miner (http://coinshield.io/binaries/primeminer-x86.zip)


You MUST download new binaries!

This issue is now resolved. I gave more cusion for the first block as well of 5 minutes to allow more people to get higher rewards in the first few blocks, minimal inflation, but will help build stability in the first launch off the genesis block.

Viz.





Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 23, 2014, 07:35:51 PM
same port as before? 9335?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: skunk on September 23, 2014, 07:39:16 PM
no peers :(


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: wisnon on September 23, 2014, 07:40:49 PM
New Binaries:

Ubuntu (http://coinshield.io/binaries/ubuntu-x86.tar.gz)
Windows (http://coinshield.io/binaries/windows-x86.zip)

Miner (http://coinshield.io/binaries/primeminer-x86.zip)


You MUST download new binaries!

This issue is now resolved. I gave more cusion for the first block as well of 5 minutes to allow more people to get higher rewards in the first few blocks, minimal inflation, but will help build stability in the first launch off the genesis block.

Viz.





Similarly no new wallet nodes are not synchronized!
Also did not launch?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 23, 2014, 07:42:10 PM
I have 2 nodes so far... blocks should be accepted after 10mins


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 07:42:28 PM
Yes same port for miner, I just changed the Main Net port to 9339.

You should have peers, there are 6 seed nodes.
Remember: Clear your AppData Folder

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: billotronic on September 23, 2014, 07:44:01 PM
Getting nothing but rejects in the miner, is that normal?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 07:45:32 PM
Yes until the time-lock activates. Then your blocks will be accepted.

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: billotronic on September 23, 2014, 07:46:12 PM
Yes until the time-lock activates. Then your blocks will be accepted.

Viz.

Ok, thanks!


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 07:47:39 PM
3 Minutes until CPU Activation!

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: ig0tik3d on September 23, 2014, 07:48:00 PM
how about win64 primeminer?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: billotronic on September 23, 2014, 07:50:36 PM
w00t hit a block! It's party time!


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 23, 2014, 07:50:49 PM
Failed to Update Height...
 ???


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: yampi on September 23, 2014, 07:51:09 PM
All two nodes suddenly disconnected when timelock ended and now I can't mine.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 07:51:54 PM
Still having issues.

Keep posted.

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: professionalcasual on September 23, 2014, 07:52:01 PM
oh no :(

one of my wallets crashed again and the other lost all peers, same as last time.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: wisnon on September 23, 2014, 07:53:47 PM
dev, whether to consider launching tomorrow, in all normal!


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: vedran82 on September 23, 2014, 07:53:53 PM
Working fine on ubuntu 14.04


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Hix on September 23, 2014, 07:54:12 PM
Code:
./coinshield
./coinshield: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.17' not found (required by ./coinshield)
??? ??? ???


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: yampi on September 23, 2014, 07:56:42 PM
I am mining on my own then.

Seed nodes were not reliable.
Connect to me at yampi.duckdns.org if anyone wants.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 23, 2014, 07:58:24 PM
wont that be a fork :S


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 07:59:04 PM
Everyone I'm fixing this. The seed nodes are crashing at the Released Reserves still.

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: yampi on September 23, 2014, 08:00:54 PM
wont that be a fork :S

But seed nodes are crashing, normal peers are ok.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 08:02:24 PM
I didn't have a rule to disallow the released reserves below 0.
Testing the fix right now.

I'll try to keep this blockchain active if I can.

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: yampi on September 23, 2014, 08:04:53 PM
I didn't have a rule to disallow the released reserves below 0.
Testing the fix right now.

I'll try to keep this blockchain active if I can.

Viz.

For some reason, my generated block transactions don't contain a "to:"

Why's that?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 23, 2014, 08:05:14 PM
wont that be a fork :S

But seed nodes are crashing, normal peers are ok.

how many coins have u mined thus far


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: yampi on September 23, 2014, 08:06:10 PM
wont that be a fork :S

But seed nodes are crashing, normal peers are ok.

how many coins have u mined thus far

97 blocks all of with their "Address:" section like:

"Address: <not avaliable>"

My mined balance does not appear (not even as unconfirmed), so I can't tell how much I have.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 23, 2014, 08:07:07 PM
97 blocks  ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: jorneyflair on September 23, 2014, 08:10:23 PM
Does not work on linux , i got about 70 blocks(not from the right genius one i guess) then forked , this seems to be a broken seednode


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: yampi on September 23, 2014, 08:11:55 PM
After closing wallet once, it started to crash a few seconds after it is launched.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: KryptoKash on September 23, 2014, 08:13:09 PM
Viz is fixing this last issue. Give him a bit. He will post shortly guys.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: jorneyflair on September 23, 2014, 08:14:45 PM
Viz is fixing this last issue. Give him a bit. He will post shortly guys.
take your time then  ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: KryptoKash on September 23, 2014, 08:16:47 PM
It seems there is an issue with the seednodes... he is currentpy debugging them... standby guys... we will get this up shortly   :)


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 08:19:21 PM
Issue found in Checkpoints. Stand by for Fix.

Bad Block 93f0eb435412c5905b38 keeps coming through at height 1. Resolving conflict with this and Checkpoints.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 23, 2014, 08:21:48 PM
will we need to clear our AppData again?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 08:23:58 PM
I'll keep you all posted. There was a massive influx of blocks that I haven't had the computing power to produce which brought out this bug. Glad to be fixing it now  ;D

Keep mining everyone, this is making this bug come out and play so I can isolate it and resolve it

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: billotronic on September 23, 2014, 08:24:56 PM
awww bummer... I am rockin on my fork. lol

Keep your head on dev, you will live to see through this!


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 23, 2014, 08:25:41 PM
the timestamp is like opening the flood gate...since the starting diff is so low every miner connected will try and submit a block instantly.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 08:26:06 PM
awww bummer... I am rockin on my fork. lol

Keep your head on dev, you will live to see through this!

One thing I don't do is give up, so we will get this. Thanks for the Support!

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: uuzcloud on September 23, 2014, 08:27:10 PM
awww bummer... I am rockin on my fork. lol

Keep your head on dev, you will live to see through this!

One thing I don't do is give up, so we will get this. Thanks for the Support!

Viz.



So, we need full-tested, then release...



Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 08:31:41 PM
awww bummer... I am rockin on my fork. lol

Keep your head on dev, you will live to see through this!

One thing I don't do is give up, so we will get this. Thanks for the Support!

Viz.


So, we need full-tested, then release...



This was my hopes with the Testnet, to get more people mining and create an influx such as this. Network is stabilizing now. We should be able to keep this chain. First checkpoint came through and got rid of that pesky bad block.

I'll keep everyone posted.

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: vedran82 on September 23, 2014, 08:32:56 PM
awww bummer... I am rockin on my fork. lol

Keep your head on dev, you will live to see through this!

One thing I don't do is give up, so we will get this. Thanks for the Support!

Viz.


So, we need full-tested, then release...



This was my hopes with the Testnet, to get more people mining and create an influx such as this. Network is stabilizing now. We should be able to keep this chain. First checkpoint came through and got rid of that pesky bad block.

I'll keep everyone posted.

Viz.

On which block is the right chain now?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 23, 2014, 08:35:32 PM
170 something blocks  :-[


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: yampi on September 23, 2014, 08:36:46 PM
I am currently connected to 2 of the seed nodes and the 7th block hash is:
Code:
e314191f9cf8a1e08ee6f4a90ad8171e507edbc448e37a81041e784c9d56fc21deb3cf5d94e072b6ff5ca447da4d2696cd3b916aca9f73e5932c627d132a99d4cf73730c2d0833144bdf1bd645d1747127ff12ec032002e5cca9cbe927e496ecd6698fb533bdc22e1bff4fa5d28881b309f7dff587287597f89610b475a32431


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Hix on September 23, 2014, 08:37:09 PM
I can`t start wallet, give me this error
Code:
coinshield server starting
terminate called after throwing an instance of 'boost::exception_detail::clone_impl<boost::exception_detail::error_info_injector<boost::system::system_error> >'
  what():  bind: Address already in use


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Wulfcastle on September 23, 2014, 08:37:32 PM
Wait so has CoinShield been launched, or is it still in TestNet?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: DishCatcher on September 23, 2014, 08:39:31 PM
there are so many forks right now.lol.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 08:39:35 PM
I am working on stabilizing Launch right now.

Checkpoints timespan of 30 minutes seems to be creating forks since there was such a large influx of Miners. I'm changing this on seed nodes, to try and stabilize a chain. Once I get it stable I will release new Binaries.

Viz.



Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: deodecagone on September 23, 2014, 08:42:02 PM
generated blocks don't end up into the immature balance ?  They look confirmed , so I assume I am on the right chain . Also the adress: to: is undefined.
What the ... am I mining right now ?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: aprot on September 23, 2014, 08:42:39 PM
[MASTER] Coinshield Network: New Block 195
[METERS] 0.000000 SPS | 0.000000 PPS | Height = 195
available: The file handle supplied is not valid
Connected to 127.0.0.1:9335...
[METERS] 0.000000 SPS | 0.000000 PPS | Height = 195
[MASTER] Coinshield Network: New Block 207

Am I doing something wrong? Which port is ok?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 23, 2014, 08:48:03 PM
[METERS] 22996.333333 SPS | 33.500000 PPS | Height = 243
hope thats the main chain


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: shimlbit on September 23, 2014, 08:49:46 PM
im on 180


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: uuzcloud on September 23, 2014, 08:51:03 PM
268



and the other wallet is 180


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: vedran82 on September 23, 2014, 08:51:10 PM
224 here on two different computers and wallets, sending between them works, so I guess I'm on a right fork.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: billotronic on September 23, 2014, 08:51:14 PM
im on 180

I've got 268, do I win a cookie?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: enerbyte on September 23, 2014, 08:51:55 PM
214 here LOL


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 23, 2014, 08:52:27 PM
257 now lol


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Superxfast on September 23, 2014, 08:53:12 PM
I don't see miner on Centos 6 linux. Can you support this


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 23, 2014, 08:53:27 PM
are we all on different forks :D


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: wisnon on September 23, 2014, 08:54:04 PM
182 now


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: deodecagone on September 23, 2014, 08:54:44 PM
It is the new concept , everyone deserve his own forked chain. One Cpu, One chain. Feel free to exchange the coins using striclty the same local computer network.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Superxfast on September 23, 2014, 08:54:49 PM
How could, my miner say, failed to update height

im on 180

I've got 268, do I win a cookie?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Hix on September 23, 2014, 08:54:53 PM
I can`t start wallet, give me this error
Code:
coinshield server starting
terminate called after throwing an instance of 'boost::exception_detail::clone_impl<boost::exception_detail::error_info_injector<boost::system::system_error> >'
  what():  bind: Address already in use
Someone help me please :)


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: vedran82 on September 23, 2014, 08:55:00 PM
are we all on different forks :D

Haha :D Well, how would sending between forked wallets work then? ;)


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: KryptoKash on September 23, 2014, 08:56:08 PM
Keep hashing guys, viz needs the hashrate to hold as he debugs.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 23, 2014, 08:56:52 PM
are we all on different forks :D

Haha :D Well, how would sending between forked wallets work then? ;)

Maybe ur wallets are on the same fork  8)


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Wulfcastle on September 23, 2014, 08:57:07 PM
Quick question guys, how do you setup the CPU Miner?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: billotronic on September 23, 2014, 08:57:12 PM
I can`t start wallet, give me this error
Code:
coinshield server starting
terminate called after throwing an instance of 'boost::exception_detail::clone_impl<boost::exception_detail::error_info_injector<boost::system::system_error> >'
  what():  bind: Address already in use
Someone help me please :)

daemon already running?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: uuzcloud on September 23, 2014, 08:57:46 PM

testnet chain is good choice, its stable chain


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: vedran82 on September 23, 2014, 08:58:11 PM
are we all on different forks :D

Haha :D Well, how would sending between forked wallets work then? ;)

Maybe ur wallets are on the same fork  8)

I sincerely hope not!  ;D What is your current block height?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: KryptoKash on September 23, 2014, 08:59:03 PM
We had hoped to avoid these bugs, that is why we released a testnet first however there were not enough miners on it to create the conditions for these bug to show themselves it will be sorted out soon please standby guys.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 23, 2014, 09:00:17 PM
are we all on different forks :D

Haha :D Well, how would sending between forked wallets work then? ;)

Maybe ur wallets are on the same fork  8)

I sincerely hope not!  ;D What is your current block height?

270


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 23, 2014, 09:03:34 PM
pretty sure i'm on some random fork, and one of my miners keeps segfaulting despite working fine on testnet :(


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Hix on September 23, 2014, 09:04:32 PM
I can`t start wallet, give me this error
Code:
coinshield server starting
terminate called after throwing an instance of 'boost::exception_detail::clone_impl<boost::exception_detail::error_info_injector<boost::system::system_error> >'
  what():  bind: Address already in use
Someone help me please :)

daemon already running?
No. I trying to run daemon.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 09:05:24 PM
I have found the issue to the forks. It was because the seed nodes were rejecting the Forks and Crashing due to my failure to check mapBlockIndex when checking the Checkpoint Timespan. I am seeing all the forks coming into the seed nodes now. The problem though, is this will be a very unfair distribution. I am setting up a new network with new ports. Stop mining now, and wait. I am starting the next difficulty at 3 to start with slower block production and have minimum difficulty of 2.0. This will ease into the chain and eliminate the issue we just experienced.

What you are mining right now will not be credited on the main chain. I am releasing new binaries in the next half hour after I verify everything is okay.

Thank You everyone for helping to resolve these issues with your mining power. Consider this a Community Launch  ;D

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: billotronic on September 23, 2014, 09:06:59 PM
I can`t start wallet, give me this error
Code:
coinshield server starting
terminate called after throwing an instance of 'boost::exception_detail::clone_impl<boost::exception_detail::error_info_injector<boost::system::system_error> >'
  what():  bind: Address already in use
Someone help me please :)

daemon already running?
No. I trying to run daemon.


Do you have any other crypto wallets running? I think someone said earlier that LTC used the same port. If nothing else, reboot and try running it again


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: billotronic on September 23, 2014, 09:08:41 PM
WTS 1000 CSD lol


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Hix on September 23, 2014, 09:15:31 PM
I can`t start wallet, give me this error
Code:
coinshield server starting
terminate called after throwing an instance of 'boost::exception_detail::clone_impl<boost::exception_detail::error_info_injector<boost::system::system_error> >'
  what():  bind: Address already in use
Someone help me please :)

daemon already running?
No. I trying to run daemon.


Do you have any other crypto wallets running? I think someone said earlier that LTC used the same port. If nothing else, reboot and try running it again
No othen wallets but i reboot
Code:
The system is going down for reboot NOW!
after reboot
Code:
irvo@:~$ ./coinshield
irvo@:~$ coinshield server starting
terminate called after throwing an instance of 'boost::exception_detail::clone_impl<boost::exception_detail::error_info_injector<boost::system::system_error> >'
  what():  bind: Address already in use
Ubuntu 14.04
boost version 1.54
What can it be?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 09:17:18 PM
I can`t start wallet, give me this error
Code:
coinshield server starting
terminate called after throwing an instance of 'boost::exception_detail::clone_impl<boost::exception_detail::error_info_injector<boost::system::system_error> >'
  what():  bind: Address already in use
Someone help me please :)

daemon already running?
No. I trying to run daemon.


Do you have any other crypto wallets running? I think someone said earlier that LTC used the same port. If nothing else, reboot and try running it again
No othen wallets but i reboot
Code:
The system is going down for reboot NOW!
after reboot
Code:
irvo@:~$ ./coinshield
irvo@:~$ coinshield server starting
terminate called after throwing an instance of 'boost::exception_detail::clone_impl<boost::exception_detail::error_info_injector<boost::system::system_error> >'
  what():  bind: Address already in use
Ubuntu 14.04
boost version 1.54
What can it be?


This means that you still have an instance of Coinshield Running. The Operating System will only let a port be bound by one application. Try checking your System Monitor for lingering process.

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: billotronic on September 23, 2014, 09:18:41 PM
I can`t start wallet, give me this error
Code:
coinshield server starting
terminate called after throwing an instance of 'boost::exception_detail::clone_impl<boost::exception_detail::error_info_injector<boost::system::system_error> >'
  what():  bind: Address already in use
Someone help me please :)

daemon already running?
No. I trying to run daemon.


Do you have any other crypto wallets running? I think someone said earlier that LTC used the same port. If nothing else, reboot and try running it again
No othen wallets but i reboot
Code:
The system is going down for reboot NOW!
after reboot
Code:
irvo@:~$ ./coinshield
irvo@:~$ coinshield server starting
terminate called after throwing an instance of 'boost::exception_detail::clone_impl<boost::exception_detail::error_info_injector<boost::system::system_error> >'
  what():  bind: Address already in use
Ubuntu 14.04
boost version 1.54
What can it be?


did you install the dev package? ie libboost-dev?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Hix on September 23, 2014, 09:22:37 PM
did you install the dev package? ie libboost-dev?
did you mean libboost-all-dev ? yes


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: billotronic on September 23, 2014, 09:23:16 PM
ok

how about

 
Code:
killall coinshield


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Superxfast on September 23, 2014, 09:23:30 PM
How to build on Centos 6. Could you release binary miner for centos 6


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: billotronic on September 23, 2014, 09:25:44 PM
How to build on Centos 6. Could you release binary miner for centos 6

you can build the miner from source

https://github.com/VidereLicet/primeminer


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Hix on September 23, 2014, 09:26:23 PM

This means that you still have an instance of Coinshield Running. The Operating System will only let a port be bound by one application. Try checking your System Monitor for lingering process.

Viz.
How can it be if i reboot comp.?

Code:
irvo@:~$ killall -9 coinshield
coinshield: no process found


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Superxfast on September 23, 2014, 09:33:26 PM
no configure file.  i am not programmer.

How to build on Centos 6. Could you release binary miner for centos 6

you can build the miner from source

https://github.com/VidereLicet/primeminer


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 09:36:03 PM

This means that you still have an instance of Coinshield Running. The Operating System will only let a port be bound by one application. Try checking your System Monitor for lingering process.

Viz.
How can it be if i reboot comp.?

Code:
irvo@:~$ killall -9 coinshield
coinshield: no process found

Then you must have another process bound to the same port. Do you have another wallet open?

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Hix on September 23, 2014, 09:37:26 PM
i found the problem

listen=1
daemon=1
server=1
rpcuser=user
rpcpassword=pass
rpcallowip=127.0.0.1
gen=1


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: wisnon on September 23, 2014, 09:39:15 PM
@Videlicet
win-qt???


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 09:44:38 PM
Progress has been made. Issue resolved as we had it before. Changed difficulty starts and checkpoint timespan, found a couple bugs that brought upon our issues.
New Time-Lock: 1411510800


Ubuntu (http://coinshield.io/binaries/ubuntu-x86.tar.gz)
Windows (http://coinshield.io/binaries/windows-x86.zip)
Miner (http://coinshield.io/binaries/primeminer-x86.zip)

You MUST download new binaries!

Mining LLP Port is now 9325 so to start your miner use 127.0.0.1 9324.


Again, my apologies.
Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: deodecagone on September 23, 2014, 09:48:12 PM
{
"blocks" : 0,
"currentblocksize" : 0,
"currentblocktx" : 0,
"difficulty" : 0.00000000,
"errors" : "",
"generate" : false,
"genproclimit" : -1,
"hashespersec" : 0,
"networkghps" : 0.00000000,
"pooledtx" : 0,
"testnet" : false
}


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: wisnon on September 23, 2014, 09:50:36 PM
no sync!!!


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Superxfast on September 23, 2014, 09:51:25 PM
on miner, it shows: failed to update hight
Progress has been made. Issue resolved as we had it before. Changed difficulty starts and checkpoint timespan, found a couple bugs that brought upon our issues.
New Time-Lock: 1411510800


Ubuntu (http://coinshield.io/binaries/ubuntu-x86.tar.gz)
Windows (http://coinshield.io/binaries/windows-x86.zip)
Miner (http://coinshield.io/binaries/primeminer-x86.zip)

You MUST download new binaries!

Mining LLP Port is now 9324 so to start your miner use 127.0.0.1 9324.


Again, my apologies.
Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 09:51:32 PM
no sync!!!

Download the new binaries and clear your appdata folder.

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: skunk on September 23, 2014, 09:51:52 PM
is it normal to get:
Code:
Connected to 127.0.0.1:9324...
Failed to Update Height...
when running the miner? before blocks was just refused...


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: wisnon on September 23, 2014, 09:52:54 PM
no sync!!!

Download the new binaries and clear your appdata folder.

Viz.
According to your method, or no sync!


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 09:54:44 PM
Port is 9325 for Mining LLP. Reconnect your Miners


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 23, 2014, 09:56:50 PM
new wallet is not syncing


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 09:57:52 PM
There are no blocks to sync with until the time-lock hits. I am starting a new chain to ensure the fairest distribution, with all the forks, who knows if one person got all of the CSD. I want to ensure it is spread as evenly as possible.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: wisnon on September 23, 2014, 09:58:30 PM
9324 and 9325 are the same no sync!


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 09:59:22 PM
What is the error you are receiving which draws you to this conclusion?

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: wisnon on September 23, 2014, 10:00:01 PM
Blocks do not move!


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: wisnon on September 23, 2014, 10:00:53 PM
dev, whether to consider launching tomorrow, in all normal!
I go, I wish you success, good-bye!


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 10:01:24 PM
Blocks do not move!

This is because the time-lock has not hit yet. It is 1411510800

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: wisnon on September 23, 2014, 10:02:38 PM
Blocks do not move!

This is because the time-lock has not hit yet. It is 1411510800

Viz.
How much time?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 10:03:43 PM
17 minutes. I put it ahead of time to allow everyone to get prepared.

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 23, 2014, 10:04:41 PM
ok in previous timelock, miner would give block rejected,  now it just says failed to update height.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: deodecagone on September 23, 2014, 10:05:22 PM
Blocks do not move!

This is because the time-lock has not hit yet. It is 1411510800

Viz.
How much time?

in 16 minutes from now




So mining with 9324 gives Failed to update height

Mining with 9325 actually looks to be mining something even if the time is not yet reached.

Which one shall we use ?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 10:05:55 PM
Use port 9325.

I am connected fine on that port.

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: wisnon on September 23, 2014, 10:07:21 PM
17 minutes. I put it ahead of time to allow everyone to get prepared.

Viz.

Do not have 17 minutes to prepare,
5 minutes on it!
Trying to sleep! :'(


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 10:09:48 PM
17 minutes. I put it ahead of time to allow everyone to get prepared.

Viz.

Do not have 17 minutes to prepare,
5 minutes on it!
Trying to sleep! :'(

You can start your miner and wallet and leave it open. It will begin mining once the time-lock is reached.

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: skunk on September 23, 2014, 10:11:31 PM
beware, miner is still crashing from time to time, so remember to run it inside an infinite loop before going to sleep:
Code:
while [ 1 ]; do ./coinshield_prime 127.0.0.1 9325; done


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: wisnon on September 23, 2014, 10:13:10 PM
Will not be bifurcated?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 23, 2014, 10:14:45 PM
forfeited my chance at sleep now my sons awake  :-X


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: wisnon on September 23, 2014, 10:17:46 PM
forfeited my chance at sleep now my sons awake  :-X
Sympathy!


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 10:18:44 PM
forfeited my chance at sleep now my sons awake  :-X
Sympathy!

Same reason I haven't slept all night  ;D

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 23, 2014, 10:19:17 PM
forfeited my chance at sleep now my sons awake  :-X
Sympathy!

Sympathy to Viz, he is prob running on fumes by now!


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: kylam on September 23, 2014, 10:20:14 PM
forfeited my chance at sleep now my sons awake  :-X
Sympathy!

Sigh, the long wait.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 23, 2014, 10:21:57 PM
I can haz blocks?

[MASTER] Block Accepted By Coinshield Network.
[MASTER] Coinshield Network: New Block 12


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: deodecagone on September 23, 2014, 10:25:26 PM
many orphans


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: professionalcasual on September 23, 2014, 10:25:38 PM
Is it still forking? One of my wallets and miners says block 32, the other 55.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 23, 2014, 10:25:59 PM
many orphans
thats prob a good sign most of us are on the same chain!


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 23, 2014, 10:26:37 PM
Is it still forking? One of my wallets and miners says block 32, the other 55.

block 27 here...


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Bombadil on September 23, 2014, 10:27:05 PM
Is it still forking? One of my wallets and miners says block 32, the other 55.

block 27 here...
66 ^^"


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: skunk on September 23, 2014, 10:27:13 PM
miner says 9 blocks were accepted but only got 3 transaction...


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: wisnon on September 23, 2014, 10:29:01 PM
Again countless times bifurcation
dev, node problem is not solved
I hope you solve the node sync
Re-launch tomorrow!
Good luck to you!
I'm gone!


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 10:29:53 PM
Block 85.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: wisnon on September 23, 2014, 10:30:55 PM
92


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 23, 2014, 10:31:01 PM
[MASTER] Block Accepted By Coinshield Network.
[MASTER] Coinshield Network: New Block 37
[METERS] 18061.500000 SPS | 22.333333 PPS | Height = 37


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: vedran82 on September 23, 2014, 10:32:06 PM
[METERS] 25354.000000 SPS | 32.833333 PPS | Height = 100

Too many orphans, in fact, almost all...


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 10:32:44 PM
Give the difficulty time to settle.

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 23, 2014, 10:32:52 PM
[METERS] 25354.000000 SPS | 32.833333 PPS | Height = 100

Too many orphans, in fact, almost all...

Your prob on the right fork at least...

Seems i am not  >:(


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: jorneyflair on September 23, 2014, 10:32:59 PM
06:32:07

[
{
"addr" : "69.195.149.114:9323",
"services" : "00000001",
"lastsend" : 1411511528,
"lastrecv" : 1411511529,
"conntime" : 1411510011,
"version" : 10100,
"subver" : "Coinshield Core[vv0.1.0.0]/ DB [0.1.1] PROTOCOL [v0.1.1]",
"inbound" : false,
"releasetime" : 0,
"height" : 0,
"banscore" : 0
},
{
"addr" : "204.27.62.226:9323",
"services" : "00000001",
"lastsend" : 1411511529,
"lastrecv" : 1411511529,
"conntime" : 1411510012,
"version" : 10100,
"subver" : "Coinshield Core[vv0.1.0.0]/ DB [0.1.1] PROTOCOL [v0.1.1]",
"inbound" : false,
"releasetime" : 0,
"height" : 0,
"banscore" : 0
},
{
"addr" : "104.131.122.25:9323",
"services" : "00000001",
"lastsend" : 1411511511,
"lastrecv" : 1411511528,
"conntime" : 1411510571,
"version" : 10100,
"subver" : "Coinshield Core[vv0.1.0.0]/ DB [0.1.1] PROTOCOL [v0.1.1]",
"inbound" : false,
"releasetime" : 0,
"height" : 0,
"banscore" : 0
}
]
are these the seednodes? yup, it seems i got a block not orphaned but only 1.25coin  :-\ , am i forked or what , lots of orphans


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 10:34:25 PM
These are:

{
"addr" : "69.195.149.114:9323",
"services" : "00000001",
"lastsend" : 1411511528,
"lastrecv" : 1411511529,
"conntime" : 1411510011,
"version" : 10100,
"subver" : "Coinshield Core[vv0.1.0.0]/ DB [0.1.1] PROTOCOL [v0.1.1]",
"inbound" : false,
"releasetime" : 0,
"height" : 0,
"banscore" : 0
},
{
"addr" : "204.27.62.226:9323",
"services" : "00000001",
"lastsend" : 1411511529,
"lastrecv" : 1411511529,
"conntime" : 1411510012,
"version" : 10100,
"subver" : "Coinshield Core[vv0.1.0.0]/ DB [0.1.1] PROTOCOL [v0.1.1]",
"inbound" : false,
"releasetime" : 0,
"height" : 0,
"banscore" : 0
},

The seed nodes are all on the same fork.
Block 112

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Hix on September 23, 2014, 10:34:40 PM
Block 85.
Can you compile wallet for ubuntu 12.04
I have this error on 12.04
Code:
irvo@:~$ ./coinshield
./coinshield: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.17' not found (required by ./coinshield)

I have working wallet on 14.04 but miner crashing every 10-20 seconds if i try to connect to external machine(14.04 with wallet)


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: wisnon on September 23, 2014, 10:35:30 PM
Do not dig
Go to bed! :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: vedran82 on September 23, 2014, 10:36:58 PM
22 blocks, 22 orphans.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 10:37:06 PM
Do not dig
Go to bed! :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\

I am keeping to my word, no matter the circumstances nor cost to myself.

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Superxfast on September 23, 2014, 10:37:48 PM
My wallet say 33 blocks

why it is diff from you

These are:

{
"addr" : "69.195.149.114:9323",
"services" : "00000001",
"lastsend" : 1411511528,
"lastrecv" : 1411511529,
"conntime" : 1411510011,
"version" : 10100,
"subver" : "Coinshield Core[vv0.1.0.0]/ DB [0.1.1] PROTOCOL [v0.1.1]",
"inbound" : false,
"releasetime" : 0,
"height" : 0,
"banscore" : 0
},
{
"addr" : "204.27.62.226:9323",
"services" : "00000001",
"lastsend" : 1411511529,
"lastrecv" : 1411511529,
"conntime" : 1411510012,
"version" : 10100,
"subver" : "Coinshield Core[vv0.1.0.0]/ DB [0.1.1] PROTOCOL [v0.1.1]",
"inbound" : false,
"releasetime" : 0,
"height" : 0,
"banscore" : 0
},

The seed nodes are all on the same fork.
Block 112

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 23, 2014, 10:39:29 PM
[METERS] 18601.666667 SPS | 26.166667 PPS | Height = 135
hope i am on right fork now


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 10:39:51 PM
It can take time for the longest chain to be realized and merged by all nodes. Difficulty just passed 3.0 the orphans are so many because someone on the network has a very large hash rate. It is taking all the blocks anyone has mined and making the longest chain.

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 10:40:22 PM
[METERS] 18601.666667 SPS | 26.166667 PPS | Height = 135
hope i am on right fork now

I can confirm you are. I am on the same fork with 9 nodes.

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: paulthetafy on September 23, 2014, 10:41:59 PM
I'm just getting Failed to Update Height but I have the latest ubuntu bin


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Superxfast on September 23, 2014, 10:42:34 PM
Hello Vi,

I am on block 40,

How can i chang fork as you.


[METERS] 18601.666667 SPS | 26.166667 PPS | Height = 135
hope i am on right fork now

I can confirm you are. I am on the same fork with 9 nodes.

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: fakeshadow on September 23, 2014, 10:43:08 PM
it just keep forking every time i synced.don't know how you guys keep up with the main chain.

imo this launch is failed and not fair (for me at least).im out.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: skunk on September 23, 2014, 10:43:15 PM
i'm on the right chain (height 147) but all the few transactions are unconfirmed because not accepted  :(


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: billotronic on September 23, 2014, 10:43:44 PM
what are the dependencies for the miner? One box built fine on Linux Mint 17, another on Ubuntu 12.04 is giving me this ::

Code:
~/primeminer$ make -f makefile.unix
g++ -c -pthread -static-libgcc -static-libstdc++ -Wall -Wextra -Wno-sign-compare -Wno-invalid-offsetof -Wno-unused-parameter -Wformat -Wformat-security -g -DBOOST_SPIRIT_THREADSAFE -DBOOST_THREAD_USE_LIB -I/home/slicify/primeminer -I/home/slicify/primeminer/build -I/home/slicify/primeminer/hash -O2 -MMD -o build/miner.o miner.cpp
miner.cpp:53:27: warning: integer constant is so large that it is unsigned [enabled by default]
miner.cpp:53:7: warning: this decimal constant is unsigned only in ISO C90 [enabled by default]
In file included from util.h:5:0,
                 from types.h:4,
                 from core.h:5,
                 from miner.cpp:1:
hash/templates.h: In function ‘uint256 SK256(const std::vector<unsigned char>&)’:
hash/templates.h:40:23: warning: unused variable ‘pblank’ [-Wunused-variable]
In file included from core.h:5:0,
                 from miner.cpp:1:
types.h: In member function ‘LLP::DDOS_Score& LLP::DDOS_Score::operator++(int)’:
types.h:125:3: warning: no return statement in function returning non-void [-Wreturn-type]
types.h: In constructor ‘LLP::DDOS_Filter::DDOS_Filter(unsigned int)’:
types.h:136:22: warning: ‘LLP::DDOS_Filter::cSCORE’ will be initialized after [-Wreorder]
types.h:133:16: warning:   ‘unsigned int LLP::DDOS_Filter::BANTIME’ [-Wreorder]
types.h:138:3: warning:   when initialized here [-Wreorder]
In file included from core.h:5:0,
                 from miner.cpp:1:
types.h: In member function ‘virtual bool LLP::Connection::ProcessPacket()’:
types.h:249:40: warning: no return statement in function returning non-void [-Wreturn-type]
types.h: In constructor ‘LLP::Connection::Connection()’:
types.h:254:18: warning: ‘LLP::Connection::DDOS’ will be initialized after [-Wreorder]
types.h:219:17: warning:   ‘LLP::Packet LLP::Connection::INCOMING’ [-Wreorder]
types.h:258:3: warning:   when initialized here [-Wreorder]
types.h: In constructor ‘LLP::Connection::Connection(LLP::Socket_t, LLP::DDOS_Filter*)’:
types.h:254:18: warning: ‘LLP::Connection::DDOS’ will be initialized after [-Wreorder]
types.h:219:17: warning:   ‘LLP::Packet LLP::Connection::INCOMING’ [-Wreorder]
types.h:259:3: warning:   when initialized here [-Wreorder]
In file included from miner.cpp:1:0:
core.h: In constructor ‘LLP::Outbound::Outbound(std::string, std::string)’:
core.h:61:19: warning: ‘LLP::Outbound::PORT’ will be initialized after [-Wreorder]
core.h:80:79: warning:   base ‘LLP::Connection’ [-Wreorder]
core.h:80:3: warning:   when initialized here [-Wreorder]
In file included from miner.cpp:1:0:
core.h: In member function ‘uint64 LLP::Miner::bytes2uint64(std::vector<unsigned char>)’:
core.h:256:79: warning: left shift count >= width of type [enabled by default]
core.h:256:98: warning: left shift count >= width of type [enabled by default]
core.h:256:117: warning: left shift count >= width of type [enabled by default]
core.h:256:136: warning: left shift count >= width of type [enabled by default]
miner.cpp: At global scope:
miner.cpp:15:28: error: ISO C++ forbids initialization of member ‘nSearches’ [-fpermissive]
miner.cpp:15:28: error: making ‘nSearches’ static [-fpermissive]
miner.cpp:15:28: error: ISO C++ forbids in-class initialization of non-const static member ‘nSearches’
miner.cpp:15:41: error: ISO C++ forbids initialization of member ‘nPrimes’ [-fpermissive]
miner.cpp:15:41: error: making ‘nPrimes’ static [-fpermissive]
miner.cpp:15:41: error: ISO C++ forbids in-class initialization of non-const static member ‘nPrimes’
miner.cpp: In constructor ‘Core::ServerConnection::ServerConnection(std::string, std::string, int, int)’:
miner.cpp:76:21: warning: ‘Core::ServerConnection::PORT’ will be initialized after [-Wreorder]
miner.cpp:72:7: warning:   ‘int Core::ServerConnection::nThreads’ [-Wreorder]
miner.cpp:78:3: warning:   when initialized here [-Wreorder]
make: *** [build/miner.o] Error 1


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 23, 2014, 10:44:52 PM
Just delete appdata>coinshield if ur not on correct chain and resync.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 10:45:58 PM
What is the C++ version you are using?
I initialize variables in the constructor, which is a C++11 feature.

Viz.

edit: someone definitely has a very high hashrate. I see reorganizations of 5 blocks or more every little bit. As difficulty rises the chain will stabilize.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: jorneyflair on September 23, 2014, 10:48:21 PM
Let's put in some constants and swap the last variable to 1 since block time won't vary that much on this coin...

Block 120 (2 hours):
Miners: 50*e^(-0.0000011*120)+3 = 52.99
Dev: e^(-0.00000059 * 120) + 0.1 = 1.09

Block 525600 (1 year):
Miners: 50*e^(-0.0000011*525600)+3 = 31.04
Dev: e^(-0.00000059 * 525600) + 0.1 = 0.83

Block 2628000 (5 year):
Miners: 50*e^(-0.0000011*2628000)+3 = 5.776
Dev: e^(-0.00000059 * 2628000) + 0.1 = 0.312

So you start taking roughly 2%, rising to 2.7% after a year, and 5.4% after 5 years.

Unsure what to say, that's a horrible unfair greedy amount to try and take, and to try and mask using relatively complex equations.

You are forgetting the Coinshield Channels, and that value per block does not mean higher value overall in exponential decay:

Block 120 (2 hours): 1.09 / 67.07 = [1.6% per block]
Miners: 50*e^(-0.0000011*120)+3 = 52.99
Channels: 10 * e^(-0.00000055 * 120) + 3 = 12.99
Dev: e^(-0.00000059 * 120) + 0.1 = 1.09

Block 525600 (1 year): 0.83 / 42.36 = [1.9% per block]
Miners: 50*e^(-0.0000011*525600)+3 = 31.04
Channels: 10 * e^(-0.00000055 * 525600) + 3 = 10.49
Dev: e^(-0.00000059 * 525600) + 0.1 = 0.83

COIN SUPPLY, 1 YEAR: 28,545,067
Total Mined: 21,801,631 [76% to miners]
Total Channel: 6,231,778 [21% to traders]
Total Dev: 511,658 [1.7% dev]

Block 2628000 (5 year): 0.312 / 11.438 = [2.7% per block]
Miners: 50*e^(-0.0000011*2628000)+3 = 5.776
Channels: 10 * e^(-0.00000055 * 2628000]) + 3 = 5.35
Dev: e^(-0.00000059 * 2628000) + 0.1 = 0.312

COIN SUPPLY, 5 YEARS: 74,341,701
Total Mined: 50,888,959 [68% to miners]
Total Channel: 21,850,548 [29% to traders]
Total Dev: 1,602,194 [2.1% dev]

Block 5256000 (10 year): 0.145 / 6.845 = [2.1% per block]
Miners: 50*e^(-0.0000011*5256000) + 3 = 3.15
Channels: 10 * e^(-0.00000055 * 5256000]) + 3 = 3.55
Dev: e^(-0.00000059 * 5256000) + 0.1 = 0.145

COIN SUPPLY 10 YEARS: 96,156,860
Total Mined: 61,077,806 [63% to miners]
Total Channel: 32,935,024 [34% to traders]
Total Dev: 2,144,030 [2.2% dev]

http://coinshield.io/images/graph.jpg

This graph is from the modeling program I used to design the equations.

EDIT: As you will notice, the channels do increase in [%] over time. This gives them more longevity.

~Videlicet
Long long journey to go 8)
Only got one block so far (1.25coin) , so little comparing the total coins suply is 100m :o
Ok , its time for supper  :D


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 23, 2014, 10:49:31 PM
4770k on ubuntu 13.10 seems to be segfaulting alot, while 3570k on same distro remains stable the whole time.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Hix on September 23, 2014, 10:50:36 PM
Videlicet
Can you compile wallet for ubuntu 12.04
I have this error on 12.04
Code:
irvo@:~$ ./coinshield
./coinshield: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.17' not found (required by ./coinshield)

I have working wallet on 14.04 but miner crashing every 10-20 seconds if i try to connect to external machine(14.04 with wallet)
12.04 have only libc.so.6: version GLIBC_2.15


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: skunk on September 23, 2014, 10:51:30 PM
is somebody getting accepted blocks? here only orphans so far...


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 10:52:12 PM
Videlicet
Can you compile wallet for ubuntu 12.04
I have this error on 12.04
Code:
irvo@:~$ ./coinshield
./coinshield: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.17' not found (required by ./coinshield)

I have working wallet on 14.04 but miner crashing every 10-20 seconds if i try to connect to external machine(14.04 with wallet)
12.04 have only libc.so.6: version GLIBC_2.15

Yes I can, but this will take some time. I'm going to have to download and install 12.01.

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Superxfast on September 23, 2014, 10:52:16 PM
block 171

is it right


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 23, 2014, 10:52:32 PM
checking the wallet seems vast majority of my blocks are orphaned.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 10:52:47 PM
block 171

is it right

Yes.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: billotronic on September 23, 2014, 10:53:00 PM
What is the C++ version you are using?
I initialize variables in the constructor, which is a C++11 feature.

Viz.

edit: someone definitely has a very high hashrate. I see reorganizations of 5 blocks or more every little bit. As difficulty rises the chain will stabilize.

/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6

on both boxes


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 10:53:43 PM
checking the wallet seems vast majority of my blocks are orphaned.

Every single one of mine have been orphaned too. This means there is someone with a very large amount of computing power.

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Wulfcastle on September 23, 2014, 10:54:13 PM
Hmm, I'm getting a timeout on my miner :

http://i58.tinypic.com/jt49cn.png

Can't load it from http://127.0.0.1:9325/ either


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Superxfast on September 23, 2014, 10:55:42 PM
171 is it right :D


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 10:59:51 PM
Hmm, I'm getting a timeout on my miner :

http://i58.tinypic.com/jt49cn.png

Can't load it from http://127.0.0.1:9325/ either

Try miner.exe 127.0.0.1 9325
Each argument is seperated by a space.

Viz.



Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: jorneyflair on September 23, 2014, 11:03:52 PM
i think the diff is too high to mine at the very beginning :-[


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 23, 2014, 11:04:06 PM


{
"blocks" : 178,
"currentblocksize" : 1000,
"currentblocktx" : 0,
"difficulty" : 117523618022769257006396642956863576656254942565324211929093242880.00000000,
"errors" : "",
"generate" : false,
"genproclimit" : -1,
"hashespersec" : 0,
"networkghps" : 1207560038075096142735727640232120704330001019869547358503043072.00000000,
"pooledtx" : 0,
"testnet" : false
}


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 11:05:36 PM
i think the diff is too high to mine at the very beginning :-[

Someone with a very large hashrate has been mining since the time-lock. This is what caused so many issues from the start.

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: paulthetafy on September 23, 2014, 11:06:26 PM
So the ubuntu wallet segmentation faults on launch.  I'm using a windows box as the server but the miners on different machines are giving failed to update height.  Any ideas?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 23, 2014, 11:06:40 PM
ummm is the diff just a bit too high now...


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Hix on September 23, 2014, 11:06:58 PM
Videlicet
Miner very unstable :( Crashing every 5 minites in localhost and every 10-20 seconds to external wallet


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 23, 2014, 11:07:39 PM
So the ubuntu wallet segmentation faults on launch.  I'm using a windows box as the server but the miners on different machines are giving failed to update height.  Any ideas?
what port are u using?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: skunk on September 23, 2014, 11:09:18 PM
checking the wallet seems vast majority of my blocks are orphaned.

Every single one of mine have been orphaned too. This means there is someone with a very large amount of computing power.

Viz.
so i guess there is no chance for desktop miners to even find a block... sad...


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: paulthetafy on September 23, 2014, 11:09:37 PM
So the ubuntu wallet segmentation faults on launch.  I'm using a windows box as the server but the miners on different machines are giving failed to update height.  Any ideas?
what port are u using?

9324


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 11:09:49 PM
So the ubuntu wallet segmentation faults on launch.  I'm using a windows box as the server but the miners on different machines are giving failed to update height.  Any ideas?

Use Port 9325


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 23, 2014, 11:10:55 PM
Viz whats with the crazy diff reading from get mining info?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: paulthetafy on September 23, 2014, 11:12:18 PM
So the ubuntu wallet segmentation faults on launch.  I'm using a windows box as the server but the miners on different machines are giving failed to update height.  Any ideas?

Use Port 9325
Same issue.  WTF?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 23, 2014, 11:13:04 PM
So the ubuntu wallet segmentation faults on launch.  I'm using a windows box as the server but the miners on different machines are giving failed to update height.  Any ideas?

Use Port 9325
Same issue.  WTF?
Is your wallet synced correctly?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 11:13:10 PM
Viz whats with the crazy diff reading from get mining info?

An incomplete RPC console. I concentrated mainly on the core features.
The difficulty is now 3.228349.

I will include an update on the RPC console when I release new binaries.

Viz.

edit: got a block 10 CSD! 10 Confirmations, let's hope it sticks! Anyone else having any luck?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: paulthetafy on September 23, 2014, 11:15:28 PM
So the ubuntu wallet segmentation faults on launch.  I'm using a windows box as the server but the miners on different machines are giving failed to update height.  Any ideas?

Use Port 9325
Same issue.  WTF?
Is your wallet synced correctly?
Yes I have tried two diff wallets on two machines acting as servers.  Neither will allow a remote miner to work.  it connects but gives failed to update height


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: billotronic on September 23, 2014, 11:15:47 PM
hmm well I am out of ideas and bowing out from mining.

I've built more miners then I care to list but I cannot get this bugger to build consistently across my platforms.

Dev, you gave it your all, but this is kinda fucked.

Get some rest and try again tomorrow.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: billotronic on September 23, 2014, 11:17:50 PM
So the ubuntu wallet segmentation faults on launch.  I'm using a windows box as the server but the miners on different machines are giving failed to update height.  Any ideas?

Use Port 9325
Same issue.  WTF?
Is your wallet synced correctly?
Yes I have tried two diff wallets on two machines acting as servers.  Neither will allow a remote miner to work.  it connects but gives failed to update height

are you sure you deleted any old data? are said wallets connected to the network? Not to say otherwise, but I'm pretty sure your wallets are not synced


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: paulthetafy on September 23, 2014, 11:19:03 PM
So the ubuntu wallet segmentation faults on launch.  I'm using a windows box as the server but the miners on different machines are giving failed to update height.  Any ideas?

Use Port 9325
Same issue.  WTF?
Is your wallet synced correctly?
Yes I have tried two diff wallets on two machines acting as servers.  Neither will allow a remote miner to work.  it connects but gives failed to update height

are you sure you deleted any old data? are said wallets connected to the network? Not to say otherwise, but I'm pretty sure your wallets are not synced

Positive.  Both wallets connected to network, 3 active connections on each, both on block 196

version" : "v0.1.0.0",
"protocolversion" : 10100,
"walletversion" : 10000,
"balance" : 0.00000000,
"newmint" : 0.00000000,
"stake" : 0.00000000,
"blocks" : 197,
"moneysupply" : 1892.65707500,
"connections" : 3,
"proxy" : "",
"ip" : "124.176.69.58",
"difficulty" : 112369447358980240611708696822763939735968746035624372004754292736.00000000,
"testnet" : false,
"keypoololdest" : 1411510298,
"keypoolsize" : 100,
"paytxfee" : 0.00000000,
"unlocked_until" : 0,
"errors" : ""
}


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 23, 2014, 11:19:50 PM
I have about 8 blocks with a few confirmations, fingers crossed.
block rate seems to have slowed right down [METERS] 23676.666667 SPS | 30.833333 PPS | Height = 184 hoping i'm still on the right chain.

edit: sounds like i'm forked again :(


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 11:20:18 PM
hmm well I am out of ideas and bowing out from mining.

I've built more miners then I care to list but I cannot get this bugger to build consistently across my platforms.

Dev, you gave it your all, but this is kinda fucked.

Get some rest and try again tomorrow.

Actually quite the contrary, chain has settled, difficulty is getting stable. Chain is stable. Miner has issues yes, actually, I'm going to fix that right now.

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: billotronic on September 23, 2014, 11:21:37 PM
hmm well I am out of ideas and bowing out from mining.

I've built more miners then I care to list but I cannot get this bugger to build consistently across my platforms.

Dev, you gave it your all, but this is kinda fucked.

Get some rest and try again tomorrow.

Actually quite the contrary, chain has settled, difficulty is getting stable. Chain is stable. Miner has issues yes, actually, I'm going to fix that right now.

Viz.

Ok, I will meet you half way, the launch should of been better. Your project has potential sir, its a shame it started so rocky.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: jorneyflair on September 23, 2014, 11:22:58 PM
well, its not a perfect launch but considering its not a coin halving like the hell:

0-500      :  10000
500-1000 :  5000
1000-2000: 2000
2000-5000: 1000

so , its time for tonights TVshow and i will keep on mining for a long time  :)

dev , you gotta take some tea i suppose


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: paulthetafy on September 23, 2014, 11:23:39 PM
Why is my difficulty 111855794579672010389632846631441833023810603619999542150931939328.00000000???


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 11:24:01 PM
hmm well I am out of ideas and bowing out from mining.

I've built more miners then I care to list but I cannot get this bugger to build consistently across my platforms.

Dev, you gave it your all, but this is kinda fucked.

Get some rest and try again tomorrow.

Actually quite the contrary, chain has settled, difficulty is getting stable. Chain is stable. Miner has issues yes, actually, I'm going to fix that right now.

Viz.

Ok, I will meet you half way, the launch should of been better. Your project has potential sir, its a shame it started so rocky.

Yes this is true, but all it means is that I just have a lot of work to do. It didn't go perfect butter smooth no, actually very chaotic; but the fact that it has stabilized from such chaos shows its progression forward. This is just the beginning.

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Wulfcastle on September 23, 2014, 11:24:04 PM
Hmm, I'm getting a timeout on my miner :

http://i58.tinypic.com/jt49cn.png

Can't load it from http://127.0.0.1:9325/ either

Try miner.exe 127.0.0.1 9325
Each argument is seperated by a space.

Viz.



Got it up and running, is this normal :

http://i61.tinypic.com/25gcmsw.png


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 11:24:40 PM
Why is my difficulty 111855794579672010389632846631441833023810603619999542150931939328.00000000???

Incomplete RPC console. Will be finished in next update.

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 11:25:13 PM
Hmm, I'm getting a timeout on my miner :

http://i58.tinypic.com/jt49cn.png

Can't load it from http://127.0.0.1:9325/ either

Try miner.exe 127.0.0.1 9325
Each argument is seperated by a space.

Viz.



Got it up and running, is this normal :

http://i61.tinypic.com/25gcmsw.png

Looks good to me.

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: paulthetafy on September 23, 2014, 11:25:30 PM
Ok where is the source for the wallet - not the miner - so that i can compile for linux?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 23, 2014, 11:26:07 PM
Depressing i've spent so much time on this, only to end up forked again and again. Its becoming very frustrating.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: billotronic on September 23, 2014, 11:26:54 PM
hmm well I am out of ideas and bowing out from mining.

I've built more miners then I care to list but I cannot get this bugger to build consistently across my platforms.

Dev, you gave it your all, but this is kinda fucked.

Get some rest and try again tomorrow.

Actually quite the contrary, chain has settled, difficulty is getting stable. Chain is stable. Miner has issues yes, actually, I'm going to fix that right now.

Viz.

Ok, I will meet you half way, the launch should of been better. Your project has potential sir, its a shame it started so rocky.

Yes this is true, but all it means is that I just have a lot of work to do. It didn't go perfect butter smooth no, actually very chaotic; but the fact that it has stabilized from such chaos shows its progression forward. This is just the beginning.

Viz.

I'm not trying to kick you while you are down, but when you bring something 'different' like this to the crypto scene, you should shoot for butter smooth. I will be the first to tell you that a rock launch leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

I've seen worse though that turned out solid (cryptonite comes to mind) and assuming you are a one man dev team you have done a very good job handling things. I wish you luck and hope that I can rape effectively mine your coin soon.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 11:28:46 PM
hmm well I am out of ideas and bowing out from mining.

I've built more miners then I care to list but I cannot get this bugger to build consistently across my platforms.

Dev, you gave it your all, but this is kinda fucked.

Get some rest and try again tomorrow.

Actually quite the contrary, chain has settled, difficulty is getting stable. Chain is stable. Miner has issues yes, actually, I'm going to fix that right now.

Viz.

Ok, I will meet you half way, the launch should of been better. Your project has potential sir, its a shame it started so rocky.

Yes this is true, but all it means is that I just have a lot of work to do. It didn't go perfect butter smooth no, actually very chaotic; but the fact that it has stabilized from such chaos shows its progression forward. This is just the beginning.

Viz.

I'm not trying to kick you while you are down, but when you bring something 'different' like this to the crypto scene, you should shoot for butter smooth. I will be the first to tell you that a rock launch leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

I've seen worse though that turned out solid (cryptonite comes to mind) and assuming you are a one man dev team you have done a very good job handling things. I wish you luck and hope that I can rape effectively mine your coin soon.

You are correct, but as the circumstances are that is in the past. All I can do is move forward and keep innovating.

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 23, 2014, 11:32:15 PM
What is current block height on correct fork?

edit: [METERS] 23919.333333 SPS | 37.000000 PPS | Height = 210 ?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 11:34:08 PM
What is current block height on correct fork?

Block 208.

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 23, 2014, 11:35:41 PM
guess i'm on the right fork again (for now)


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: billotronic on September 23, 2014, 11:37:44 PM
hmm well I am out of ideas and bowing out from mining.

I've built more miners then I care to list but I cannot get this bugger to build consistently across my platforms.

Dev, you gave it your all, but this is kinda fucked.

Get some rest and try again tomorrow.

Actually quite the contrary, chain has settled, difficulty is getting stable. Chain is stable. Miner has issues yes, actually, I'm going to fix that right now.

Viz.

Ok, I will meet you half way, the launch should of been better. Your project has potential sir, its a shame it started so rocky.

Yes this is true, but all it means is that I just have a lot of work to do. It didn't go perfect butter smooth no, actually very chaotic; but the fact that it has stabilized from such chaos shows its progression forward. This is just the beginning.

Viz.

I'm not trying to kick you while you are down, but when you bring something 'different' like this to the crypto scene, you should shoot for butter smooth. I will be the first to tell you that a rock launch leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

I've seen worse though that turned out solid (cryptonite comes to mind) and assuming you are a one man dev team you have done a very good job handling things. I wish you luck and hope that I can rape effectively mine your coin soon.

You are correct, but as the circumstances are that is in the past. All I can do is move forward and keep innovating.

Viz.

Thats a fact sir and I wish you luck with that!


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 11:38:55 PM
hmm well I am out of ideas and bowing out from mining.

I've built more miners then I care to list but I cannot get this bugger to build consistently across my platforms.

Dev, you gave it your all, but this is kinda fucked.

Get some rest and try again tomorrow.

Actually quite the contrary, chain has settled, difficulty is getting stable. Chain is stable. Miner has issues yes, actually, I'm going to fix that right now.

Viz.

Ok, I will meet you half way, the launch should of been better. Your project has potential sir, its a shame it started so rocky.

Yes this is true, but all it means is that I just have a lot of work to do. It didn't go perfect butter smooth no, actually very chaotic; but the fact that it has stabilized from such chaos shows its progression forward. This is just the beginning.

Viz.

I'm not trying to kick you while you are down, but when you bring something 'different' like this to the crypto scene, you should shoot for butter smooth. I will be the first to tell you that a rock launch leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

I've seen worse though that turned out solid (cryptonite comes to mind) and assuming you are a one man dev team you have done a very good job handling things. I wish you luck and hope that I can rape effectively mine your coin soon.

You are correct, but as the circumstances are that is in the past. All I can do is move forward and keep innovating.

Viz.

Thats a fact sir and I wish you luck with that!

Thank you for the Support, it makes the last 4 months of tireless work worth it.

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: billotronic on September 23, 2014, 11:41:52 PM
hmm well I am out of ideas and bowing out from mining.

I've built more miners then I care to list but I cannot get this bugger to build consistently across my platforms.

Dev, you gave it your all, but this is kinda fucked.

Get some rest and try again tomorrow.

Actually quite the contrary, chain has settled, difficulty is getting stable. Chain is stable. Miner has issues yes, actually, I'm going to fix that right now.

Viz.

Ok, I will meet you half way, the launch should of been better. Your project has potential sir, its a shame it started so rocky.

Yes this is true, but all it means is that I just have a lot of work to do. It didn't go perfect butter smooth no, actually very chaotic; but the fact that it has stabilized from such chaos shows its progression forward. This is just the beginning.

Viz.

I'm not trying to kick you while you are down, but when you bring something 'different' like this to the crypto scene, you should shoot for butter smooth. I will be the first to tell you that a rock launch leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

I've seen worse though that turned out solid (cryptonite comes to mind) and assuming you are a one man dev team you have done a very good job handling things. I wish you luck and hope that I can rape effectively mine your coin soon.

You are correct, but as the circumstances are that is in the past. All I can do is move forward and keep innovating.

Viz.

Thats a fact sir and I wish you luck with that!

Thank you for the Support, it makes the last 4 months of tireless work worth it.

Viz.

lol well lets not get carried away. You need to worry about getting some sleep bud. Things can only get better, right?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 23, 2014, 11:47:18 PM
hmm well I am out of ideas and bowing out from mining.

I've built more miners then I care to list but I cannot get this bugger to build consistently across my platforms.

Dev, you gave it your all, but this is kinda fucked.

Get some rest and try again tomorrow.

Actually quite the contrary, chain has settled, difficulty is getting stable. Chain is stable. Miner has issues yes, actually, I'm going to fix that right now.

Viz.

Ok, I will meet you half way, the launch should of been better. Your project has potential sir, its a shame it started so rocky.

Yes this is true, but all it means is that I just have a lot of work to do. It didn't go perfect butter smooth no, actually very chaotic; but the fact that it has stabilized from such chaos shows its progression forward. This is just the beginning.

Viz.

I'm not trying to kick you while you are down, but when you bring something 'different' like this to the crypto scene, you should shoot for butter smooth. I will be the first to tell you that a rock launch leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

I've seen worse though that turned out solid (cryptonite comes to mind) and assuming you are a one man dev team you have done a very good job handling things. I wish you luck and hope that I can rape effectively mine your coin soon.

You are correct, but as the circumstances are that is in the past. All I can do is move forward and keep innovating.

Viz.

Thats a fact sir and I wish you luck with that!

Thank you for the Support, it makes the last 4 months of tireless work worth it.

Viz.

lol well lets not get carried away. You need to worry about getting some sleep bud. Things can only get better, right?

Precisely my friend. I'll get some sleep, build a new miner tomorrow, update RPC console, and update the Checkpoints.

Thanks Again,
Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: billotronic on September 23, 2014, 11:53:18 PM
hmm well I am out of ideas and bowing out from mining.

I've built more miners then I care to list but I cannot get this bugger to build consistently across my platforms.

Dev, you gave it your all, but this is kinda fucked.

Get some rest and try again tomorrow.

Actually quite the contrary, chain has settled, difficulty is getting stable. Chain is stable. Miner has issues yes, actually, I'm going to fix that right now.

Viz.

Ok, I will meet you half way, the launch should of been better. Your project has potential sir, its a shame it started so rocky.

Yes this is true, but all it means is that I just have a lot of work to do. It didn't go perfect butter smooth no, actually very chaotic; but the fact that it has stabilized from such chaos shows its progression forward. This is just the beginning.

Viz.

I'm not trying to kick you while you are down, but when you bring something 'different' like this to the crypto scene, you should shoot for butter smooth. I will be the first to tell you that a rock launch leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

I've seen worse though that turned out solid (cryptonite comes to mind) and assuming you are a one man dev team you have done a very good job handling things. I wish you luck and hope that I can rape effectively mine your coin soon.

You are correct, but as the circumstances are that is in the past. All I can do is move forward and keep innovating.

Viz.

Thats a fact sir and I wish you luck with that!

Thank you for the Support, it makes the last 4 months of tireless work worth it.

Viz.

lol well lets not get carried away. You need to worry about getting some sleep bud. Things can only get better, right?

Precisely my friend. I'll get some sleep, build a new miner tomorrow, update RPC console, and update the Checkpoints.

Thanks Again,
Viz.

Then I will meet you in the morning on the field of battle sir

Also, check your pm's if you have a second (between crisis)


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: paulthetafy on September 24, 2014, 12:08:15 AM
Finally got this working.  Had to delete my wallet.dat too and start over. 

I see the block rate is going up now so people are mining ok??


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 24, 2014, 12:12:18 AM
i have 4 blocks with 50+ confirms so fingers crossed (again) its working now


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: fudge on September 24, 2014, 12:19:46 AM
anybody have a good node list? thanks


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: paulthetafy on September 24, 2014, 12:27:32 AM
Is everyone on the same fork as me??

10:26:47

{
"blocks" : 288,
"currentblocksize" : 1000,
"currentblocktx" : 0,
"difficulty" : 3185900174166783088097173269799837970608306143741863115576311808.00000000,
"errors" : "",
"generate" : false,
"genproclimit" : -1,
"hashespersec" : 0,
"networkghps" : 350854796317103577971763672838385907214662227603311994796507136.00000000,
"pooledtx" : 0,
"testnet" : false
}

Edit: I only have two connections to the network too



[
{
"addr" : "204.27.62.234:9323",
"services" : "00000001",
"lastsend" : 1411518316,
"lastrecv" : 1411518316,
"conntime" : 1411514988,
"version" : 10100,
"subver" : "Coinshield Core[vv0.1.0.0]/ DB [0.1.1] PROTOCOL [v0.1.1]",
"inbound" : false,
"releasetime" : 0,
"height" : 204,
"banscore" : 0
},
{
"addr" : "69.195.149.114:9323",
"services" : "00000001",
"lastsend" : 1411518316,
"lastrecv" : 1411518316,
"conntime" : 1411514989,
"version" : 10100,
"subver" : "Coinshield Core[vv0.1.0.0]/ DB [0.1.1] PROTOCOL [v0.1.1]",
"inbound" : false,
"releasetime" : 0,
"height" : 204,
"banscore" : 0
}
]


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: KryptoKash on September 24, 2014, 12:29:43 AM
Is everyone on the same fork as me??

10:26:47

{
"blocks" : 288,
"currentblocksize" : 1000,
"currentblocktx" : 0,
"difficulty" : 3185900174166783088097173269799837970608306143741863115576311808.00000000,
"errors" : "",
"generate" : false,
"genproclimit" : -1,
"hashespersec" : 0,
"networkghps" : 350854796317103577971763672838385907214662227603311994796507136.00000000,
"pooledtx" : 0,
"testnet" : false
}

Edit: I only have two connections to the network too



[
{
"addr" : "204.27.62.234:9323",
"services" : "00000001",
"lastsend" : 1411518316,
"lastrecv" : 1411518316,
"conntime" : 1411514988,
"version" : 10100,
"subver" : "Coinshield Core[vv0.1.0.0]/ DB [0.1.1] PROTOCOL [v0.1.1]",
"inbound" : false,
"releasetime" : 0,
"height" : 204,
"banscore" : 0
},
{
"addr" : "69.195.149.114:9323",
"services" : "00000001",
"lastsend" : 1411518316,
"lastrecv" : 1411518316,
"conntime" : 1411514989,
"version" : 10100,
"subver" : "Coinshield Core[vv0.1.0.0]/ DB [0.1.1] PROTOCOL [v0.1.1]",
"inbound" : false,
"releasetime" : 0,
"height" : 204,
"banscore" : 0
}
]


We are on the same/correct fork :-)


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 24, 2014, 12:32:05 AM
How to tell ur on the correct fork: ur miners stop finding blocks  ::)

Some whale is scooping up all these coins... sigh


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 24, 2014, 12:33:35 AM
Everything has finally stabilized.

My guess would be a big miner was waiting, and raped everyone's blocks. It didn't start slowing down till it hit difficulty 3.1. I wasn't expecting that, but I'm glad it is now resolved.

We are well underway everybody!

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: fudge on September 24, 2014, 12:36:32 AM
Am I on a correct fork?
Got 1 block, 14 confirms but balance is 0

03:34:04
{
"blocks" : 298,
"currentblocksize" : 1000,
"currentblocktx" : 0,
"difficulty" : 2746468159288672789920767466059580340224258824986839014149455872.00000000,
"errors" : "",
"generate" : false,
"genproclimit" : -1,
"hashespersec" : 0,
"networkghps" : 318810565504058617118011667254627797163096061562295997777838080.00000000,
"pooledtx" : 0,
"testnet" : false
}

03:35:18
[
{
"addr" : "69.195.149.114:9323",
"services" : "00000001",
"lastsend" : 1411518807,
"lastrecv" : 1411518912,
"conntime" : 1411517637,
"version" : 10100,
"subver" : "Coinshield Core[vv0.1.0.0]/ DB [0.1.1] PROTOCOL [v0.1.1]",
"inbound" : false,
"releasetime" : 0,
"height" : 272,
"banscore" : 0
},
{
"addr" : "204.27.62.234:9323",
"services" : "00000001",
"lastsend" : 1411518741,
"lastrecv" : 1411518912,
"conntime" : 1411517641,
"version" : 10100,
"subver" : "Coinshield Core[vv0.1.0.0]/ DB [0.1.1] PROTOCOL [v0.1.1]",
"inbound" : false,
"releasetime" : 0,
"height" : 272,
"banscore" : 0
}
]


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 24, 2014, 12:39:14 AM
I've been watching a lot of new miners hopping on.
We are at difficulty 3.63 with 4474 CSD mined in 139 Minutes.

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: paulthetafy on September 24, 2014, 12:44:18 AM
I've been watching a lot of new miners hopping on.
We are at difficulty 3.63 with 4474 CSD mined in 139 Minutes.

Viz.

Yeah I put a few miners on this.  With a supply of 100m, what are you hoping to release per day?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Hix on September 24, 2014, 12:50:43 AM
I hate this miner >:( it is really shit.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: cestballot on September 24, 2014, 12:51:20 AM
http://cestballot.fr/downloadss/cshield1.png

how to have good fork ???

Best


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 24, 2014, 01:07:16 AM
I hate this miner >:( it is really shit.

Anyone is welcome to help improve it. I work on it when I have time away from the Core.

I've been watching a lot of new miners hopping on.
We are at difficulty 3.63 with 4474 CSD mined in 139 Minutes.

Viz.

Yeah I put a few miners on this.  With a supply of 100m, what are you hoping to release per day?

This is an exact figure. It is broken down to ~25 CSD per minute per channel decaying at a rate of (50 * e ^ (-0.0000011  * nMinutes) + 1.0) / 2. This is why you notice there are some rewards that are small fractions, and others that are full subsidy's. This keeps the supply released on a time based curve, with no inflation, and no unpredictability in total supply.

The 100 million won't be fully released for 10 years.

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 24, 2014, 01:19:11 AM
[METERS] 23950.333333 SPS | 32.333333 PPS | Height = 289
what block is everyone else on?

edit: just restarted the wallet it was 60 odd blocks behind, seems the windows wallet stops syncing after some time...


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: cestballot on September 24, 2014, 01:26:02 AM
363


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: fudge on September 24, 2014, 01:27:25 AM
363
me too

32.333333 PPS - what CPU is that?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 24, 2014, 01:28:39 AM
i5 3570k @ 4.2ghz
4770k @ 4.2ghz is hitting 40pps, but has alot of segfaults


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: fudge on September 24, 2014, 01:31:47 AM
i5 3570k @ 4.2ghz
holy moly but my i5 3470 @3.2 is only doing 8-9 PPS on windows

am I doing something wrong?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 24, 2014, 01:32:54 AM
the windows build is only 32bit thats the problem.
We are not still on block 363 are we?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: fudge on September 24, 2014, 01:34:53 AM
369


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: KryptoKash on September 24, 2014, 01:36:13 AM
369
same here


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: cestballot on September 24, 2014, 01:36:57 AM
369

Me too @ same time, is it good fork ?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 24, 2014, 01:37:11 AM
*argh* wallet won't keep sync.... this is killing me. Gotta be honest i like the idea of the coin but this is the worst time i ever had to keep miners running.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 24, 2014, 01:37:18 AM
i5 3570k @ 4.2ghz
holy moly but my i5 3470 @3.2 is only doing 8-9 PPS on windows

am I doing something wrong?

That's about what I get on my i5 too. Difficulty is at 3.8496


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: fudge on September 24, 2014, 01:38:37 AM
*argh* wallet won't keep sync.... this is killing me. Gotta be honest i like the idea of the coin but this is the worst time i ever had to keep miners running.
try to add some nodes from the previous page?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 24, 2014, 01:38:56 AM
*argh* wallet won't keep sync.... this is killing me. Gotta be honest i like the idea of the coin but this is the worst time i ever had to keep miners running.

I understand your frustration. I'll be working on the miner over the next few days to help stabilize everything.

Thanks for hanging in there.  :)

keep posted for updates
Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: enerbyte on September 24, 2014, 01:39:30 AM
need a binary for windows x64 :)


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 24, 2014, 01:40:20 AM
need a binary for windows x64 :)

I'll get this done when I fix the miner up  :)

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 24, 2014, 01:44:08 AM
I think there might be a bug in the windows wallet also, 4 times now my wallet has just stopped syncing.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: KryptoKash on September 24, 2014, 01:44:27 AM
Just got 1st block on my old laptop running 2 CPUs.... YAY!!!!!!!    ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: paulthetafy on September 24, 2014, 01:44:59 AM
Block 377 everyone?

I'm finding the miner is segmentation faulting on linux, but I'm just using a cronjob to restart it every minute if it is not already running.

I think I found the root cause of the issue yesterday but haven;t had chance to implement a fix yet.  If I fix it today, I'll send the update to the dev.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: fudge on September 24, 2014, 01:45:58 AM
Block 377 everyone?
yep


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Superxfast on September 24, 2014, 02:05:42 AM
Dear Vi,

My wallet does not sync sometimes, it is not stable

Please have miner for centos 6 to, i do not how to build with your source, it has no configure file. Please help.

Best Rgrds,

need a binary for windows x64 :)

I'll get this done when I fix the miner up  :)

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 24, 2014, 02:08:28 AM
Dear Vi,

My wallet does not sync sometimes, it is not stable

Please have miner for centos 6 to, i do not how to build with your source, it has no configure file. Please help.

Best Rgrds,

need a binary for windows x64 :)

I'll get this done when I fix the miner up  :)

Viz.

makefile.unix?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Videlicet on September 24, 2014, 02:15:59 AM
I'll write some documentation for building, first step is stabilize miner, next we'll make it more user friendly. There is a lot of room for expansion for Coinshield, and trust me, we will keep expanding it. If you have issues with syncing and would like your specific issues tended to, send your debug.log file to me at videlicet8@gmail.com. I'll review it and implement fixes in the upcoming update. Just include your username in the subject and what issues you are encountering and I'll respond back to you with the implemented fixes when I post new binaries.

Now for me, I'm going to sleep. Refer any questions to KryptoKash and he'll take care of you.

Thank you to everybody for your Support
Viz.

P.S. We are at difficulty 3.946899. Good Night  :)


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: cwrmyy888 on September 24, 2014, 02:20:35 AM
"blocks" : 394,
"currentblocksize" : 1000,
"currentblocktx" : 0,
"difficulty" : 1193946682456270083919431226006773136386650404937985936441999360.00000000,
"errors" : "",
"generate" : false,
"genproclimit" : -1,
"hashespersec" : 0,
"networkghps" : 88413137143403065745386998457978834513237740974601347709009920.00000000,
"pooledtx" : 0,
"testnet" : false
}

why ?
So sick of difficulty?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: KryptoKash on September 24, 2014, 02:25:40 AM
"blocks" : 394,
"currentblocksize" : 1000,
"currentblocktx" : 0,
"difficulty" : 1193946682456270083919431226006773136386650404937985936441999360.00000000,
"errors" : "",
"generate" : false,
"genproclimit" : -1,
"hashespersec" : 0,
"networkghps" : 88413137143403065745386998457978834513237740974601347709009920.00000000,
"pooledtx" : 0,
"testnet" : false
}

why ?
So sick of difficulty?


Incomplete RPC console is the reason your difficulty displays as
"difficulty" : 1193946682456270083919431226006773136386650404937985936441999360.00000000, it will be finished in next update.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: cestballot on September 24, 2014, 02:37:09 AM
network connection = 2

Is it normal ?

Best regards


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 24, 2014, 02:43:21 AM
network connection = 2

Is it normal ?

Best regards
thats all i get, would be nice to increase that to prevent chance of orphans.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: cestballot on September 24, 2014, 02:56:54 AM
some time I have some "Failed to Update Height ..."

:/


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: cestballot on September 24, 2014, 03:12:16 AM
network connection = 2

Is it normal ?

Best regards
thats all i get, would be nice to increase that to prevent chance of orphans.

we Need more conection !!


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: KryptoKash on September 24, 2014, 03:20:44 AM
I ask Viz (before he went to sleep) about there only being 2 connections ,as we have 6 seeds. This is what he said "we have two ip groups 204.27.62 and 69.195.148 and the address manager only makes one connection per ip group"
I hope that helps clears this up  :)


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 24, 2014, 03:47:29 AM
Any small miners found any blocks within the last few hours?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: Superxfast on September 24, 2014, 04:15:11 AM
Wallet sync and then stop syncing after several minutes, I do not know why to solve this. Try to test on 2 computer, the same result.

Do you have solotion for this.

Best Rgrds,

Any small miners found any blocks within the last few hours?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 24, 2014, 04:22:45 AM
Wallet sync and then stop syncing after several minutes, I do not know why to solve this. Try to test on 2 computer, the same result.

Do you have solotion for this.

Best Rgrds,

Any small miners found any blocks within the last few hours?

I had sync issue, i backed up wallet.dat deleted all other files and resync block chain, no issue since doing that.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: merc84 on September 24, 2014, 04:36:40 AM
Been almost 6hours since last block, time for me to give up soon  :-[


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: KryptoKash on September 24, 2014, 04:45:37 AM
Been almost 6hours since last block, time for me to give up soon  :-[
Blocks are still coming through on target, current difficulty is 3.9 Videlicet fixed the checkpoint system. Block chain secure, most recent harden checkpoint block 434. Current pending checkpoint block 470.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: merc84 on September 24, 2014, 04:46:41 AM
Been almost 6hours since last block, time for me to give up soon  :-[
Blocks are still coming through on target, current difficulty is 3.9 Videlicet fixed the checkpoint system. Block chain secure, most recent harden checkpoint block 434. Current pending checkpoint block 470.

Sorry i meant since i found my last block.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: provenceday on September 24, 2014, 04:59:39 AM
will mine some for sure to support innovations.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: wisnon on September 24, 2014, 05:03:50 AM
Always not in the main chain,
Can not be mined!
In the end how to play? :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: KryptoKash on September 24, 2014, 05:05:58 AM
Always not in the main chain,
Can not be mined!
In the end how to play? :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\
What block are you on? Viz just secured the decentralized checkpoints,  All forks are now resolved. If you feel you are still on a fork delete blk0001.dat and blkindex.dat and it will work 100%.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: wisnon on September 24, 2014, 05:25:03 AM
496


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: KryptoKash on September 24, 2014, 05:26:53 AM
496
you are on the correct fork.  :)


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: wisnon on September 24, 2014, 05:31:31 AM
496
you are on the correct fork.  :)
Still 496
Blocks do not move! ! ! ! ! ! ! !


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: paulthetafy on September 24, 2014, 05:38:07 AM
Ummm I'm on block 495.  And I've been mining heavily for a few hours and have mined blocks.  Please tell me this isnt a fork.  How can I tell?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: paulthetafy on September 24, 2014, 05:39:19 AM
Ummm I'm on block 495.  And I've been mining heavily for a few hours and have mined blocks.  Please tell me this isnt a fork.  How can I tell?
Nevermind.  total blocks was 495 :)

Blocks stopped because I had to reboot and so I stopped mining obviously :D

Seriously this is hard to mine now!


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: merc84 on September 24, 2014, 05:43:41 AM
starting to wonder if someone hasn't already got private optimized miner


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: paulthetafy on September 24, 2014, 05:51:25 AM
starting to wonder if someone hasn't already got private optimized miner

I don't think so.  I'm mining on a handful of machines now and am getting blocks.  It does seem to be working ok.

Out of interest, what PPS are people getting?  I'm getting around 29-30 PPS on an 8-core ubuntu box


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: wisnon on September 24, 2014, 06:26:52 AM
No way mining
Bifurcation every 15 minutes
dev if not repaired bug heavy shot
The coins will soon be dead!
Please consider carefully!


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: jorneyflair on September 24, 2014, 06:32:44 AM
got forked several times , what the fuck is that? mined several blocks and all orphaned


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: merc84 on September 24, 2014, 06:37:10 AM
Always not in the main chain,
Can not be mined!
In the end how to play? :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\ :-\
What block are you on? Viz just secured the decentralized checkpoints,  All forks are now resolved. If you feel you are still on a fork delete blk0001.dat and blkindex.dat and it will work 100%.

+1 this fixed forking issues for me


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: merc84 on September 24, 2014, 06:38:51 AM
starting to wonder if someone hasn't already got private optimized miner

I don't think so.  I'm mining on a handful of machines now and am getting blocks.  It does seem to be working ok.

Out of interest, what PPS are people getting?  I'm getting around 29-30 PPS on an 8-core ubuntu box
i5 3570k @ 4.2ghz 33PPS
i7 4770k @ 4.2ghz 40PPS
E3 1230v3 @ 3.5ghz 8PPS (waiting for windows 64bit before turning this one back on)


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: lobat999 on September 24, 2014, 06:51:47 AM
can i mine using my dual core cpu?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: enerbyte on September 24, 2014, 07:13:01 AM
starting to wonder if someone hasn't already got private optimized miner

I don't think so.  I'm mining on a handful of machines now and am getting blocks.  It does seem to be working ok.

Out of interest, what PPS are people getting?  I'm getting around 29-30 PPS on an 8-core ubuntu box
i5 3570k @ 4.2ghz 33PPS
i7 4770k @ 4.2ghz 40PPS
E3 1230v3 @ 3.5ghz 8PPS (waiting for windows 64bit before turning this one back on)

i7 4770k stock ~8.5 PPS in windows  :'(  need miner x64 in windows, the difference is too big


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: merc84 on September 24, 2014, 07:16:08 AM
I already raised the subject, unfortunately Viz is just one guy and he needs some sleep like the rest of us. Unfortunately I lack the experience to compile for windows with mingw64 or i would share a binary for all.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: Videlicet on September 24, 2014, 07:19:31 AM
The orphans came from someone who had most of the network computing power while difficulty was low.

This happens with any crypto-currency.
Block Chain is stable. Secured with checkpoints every 60 minutes [yeah I know, I need to sleep]

I think I might be needing to build a pool sooner than expected. This will help the small miners against the big miners. This is always the case when difficulty gets high.

Fun Fact: It takes 83 hours to find a prime cluster of difficulty 4.0 on one Pentium G3220 Core, this is from the data I gathered while developing the Prime Channel. This is why blocks are scarce when you only have a couple CPU's.

And now for sleep.
Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: jorneyflair on September 24, 2014, 07:27:56 AM
The orphans came from someone who had most of the network computing power while difficulty was low.

This happens with any crypto-currency.
Block Chain is stable. Secured with checkpoints every 60 minutes [yeah I know, I need to sleep]

I think I might be needing to build a pool sooner than expected. This will help the small miners against the big miners. This is always the case when difficulty gets high.

Fun Fact: It takes 83 hours to find a prime cluster of difficulty 4.0 on one core, this is from the data I gathered while developing the Prime Channel. This is why blocks are scarce when you only have a couple CPU's.

And now for sleep.
Viz.
whats the main chain then? im on 549 ,forked again? cant mine anymore , forked every 10-20 minutes , wait the stuff to be fixed

122.226.165.11 it seems this ip got huge hashingrates , got forked by him at least 5 times >:(


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: KryptoKash on September 24, 2014, 07:42:08 AM
The orphans came from someone who had most of the network computing power while difficulty was low.

This happens with any crypto-currency.
Block Chain is stable. Secured with checkpoints every 60 minutes [yeah I know, I need to sleep]

I think I might be needing to build a pool sooner than expected. This will help the small miners against the big miners. This is always the case when difficulty gets high.

Fun Fact: It takes 83 hours to find a prime cluster of difficulty 4.0 on one core, this is from the data I gathered while developing the Prime Channel. This is why blocks are scarce when you only have a couple CPU's.

And now for sleep.
Viz.
whats the main chain then? im on 549 ,forked again?
block is at 590 ..no fork.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: Videlicet on September 24, 2014, 07:47:30 AM
I fixed the issues to the syncing thanks to some wonderful people sending their debug.log files.

Ubuntu (http://coinshield.io/binaries/ubuntu-x86.tar.gz)
Windows (http://coinshield.io/binaries/windows-x86.zip)


If you still have syncing issues after this fix, send me your debug.log file!  ;D

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: yampi on September 24, 2014, 07:50:19 AM
Needs a relaunch with a pool ready.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: ig0tik3d on September 24, 2014, 08:09:09 AM
without win64 miner it is  like scam... it my opinion


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: cwrmyy888 on September 24, 2014, 08:11:56 AM
Someone mining success?? :-\

show your wallet  ;D


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: Videlicet on September 24, 2014, 08:15:16 AM
Someone mining success?? :-\

show your wallet  ;D

I got two blocks on 4 cores hours ago. The difficulty is too high to really get anything solo anymore with just a few CPU's, didn't expect such a large influx of miners so quickly.

Working on getting a pool up soon  :D

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: paulthetafy on September 24, 2014, 08:34:04 AM
[MASTER] Prime Cluster of Difficulty 4.259035 Found on Thread 5

01072247224808dc482d6b822407c6c2af9df1d5a890229f23278a508e0a6e7802990214c61db85 9fb21807e61a00e9e0a9fd969713cde4704197580bd117cff07db15e9d48453e289e8ca30efa516 d396525391d32ddd7be39229570aa9da5caa0c59173d4b9ffd328e035614930307ef9603dbcd4ea 88258ac752c0a15a142

[MASTER] Block Accepted By Coinshield Network.

WOOT!


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: Videlicet on September 24, 2014, 08:34:59 AM
[MASTER] Prime Cluster of Difficulty 4.259035 Found on Thread 5

01072247224808dc482d6b822407c6c2af9df1d5a890229f23278a508e0a6e7802990214c61db85 9fb21807e61a00e9e0a9fd969713cde4704197580bd117cff07db15e9d48453e289e8ca30efa516 d396525391d32ddd7be39229570aa9da5caa0c59173d4b9ffd328e035614930307ef9603dbcd4ea 88258ac752c0a15a142

[MASTER] Block Accepted By Coinshield Network.

WOOT!

Awesome! Is that your first block?

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: yampi on September 24, 2014, 08:47:54 AM
I had found a block too but it does not even appear in my transactions.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: merc84 on September 24, 2014, 08:52:42 AM
I had found a block too but it does not even appear in my transactions.
orphaned :(


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: yampi on September 24, 2014, 08:54:41 AM
I had found a block too but it does not even appear in my transactions.
orphaned :(
Orphaned even after being accepted?

Code:
[METERS] 2570.333333 SPS | 3.000000 PPS | Height = 629

I hope I am up all day to get lucky.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: merc84 on September 24, 2014, 08:56:43 AM
If the miner says block accepted it can still become orphaned yes.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: merc84 on September 24, 2014, 08:57:36 AM
[METERS] 24028.500000 SPS | 32.500000 PPS | Height = 602
crap i'm forked again time to update wallet!


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: Hix on September 24, 2014, 09:34:06 AM
still no have stable miner?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: merc84 on September 24, 2014, 09:38:10 AM
beware, miner is still crashing from time to time, so remember to run it inside an infinite loop before going to sleep:
Code:
while [ 1 ]; do ./coinshield_prime 127.0.0.1 9325; done
simple solution for miner problem until there is a fix.

Edit: Is there any way to increase connection to the network? only found 3 blocks in the last 8+ hours and 2 of them orphaned :(


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: cwrmyy888 on September 24, 2014, 11:07:54 AM
Give up

 5  I7

Digging for 10 hours, I have noting.five I7 so funny!

"blocks" : 683,
"currentblocksize" : 1000,
"currentblocktx" : 0,
"difficulty" : 1398092651751463465514866735996323596888122390128738009232703488.00000000,
"errors" : "",
"generate" : false,
"genproclimit" : -1,
"hashespersec" : 0,
"networkghps" : 69020255356901761950809726774885007131247260971514666906812416.00000000,
"pooledtx" : 0,
"testnet" : false

Never buy, this is cheating

This coin is funny


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: paulthetafy on September 24, 2014, 11:27:45 AM
Give up

 5  I7

Digging for 10 hours, I have noting.five I7 so funny!

"blocks" : 683,
"currentblocksize" : 1000,
"currentblocktx" : 0,
"difficulty" : 1398092651751463465514866735996323596888122390128738009232703488.00000000,
"errors" : "",
"generate" : false,
"genproclimit" : -1,
"hashespersec" : 0,
"networkghps" : 69020255356901761950809726774885007131247260971514666906812416.00000000,
"pooledtx" : 0,
"testnet" : false

Never buy, this is cheating

This coin is funny


Don't give up!  It looks like there was an influx of early miners that made the diff shoot up quite quickly and it overcompensated, but it's slowly dropping back down.  If you watch it, the block rate has dropped off a lot over the last few hours, so difficulty has to drop to compensate, but this adjustment takes time.  I think it will be easier to see when we have a pool.

The reward is bigger if there are bigger gaps between blocks, so this is a good thing.  If you get a block now, it will be worth more as there are fewer blocks being found than a few hours ago.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |Launch Date Set | Coinshield Verify
Post by: sdersdf3 on September 24, 2014, 12:02:41 PM

If you read through the features, you will come to see that development takes time.

The delays came from my perseverance to build unique and useful features for a coin, and not settle for anything less. Keep in mind it took Satoshi a few years to build Bitcoin, now; I compliment that same work by enhancing and reconstructing the original code base.

It only takes a day to clone a coin, but takes months to build one.



Fair enough, though some of us, by necessity have to plan ahead or try to at least. What's best guesstimate on "roadmap" milestone(s)?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: paulthetafy on September 24, 2014, 12:40:44 PM
Is anyone else seeing things stuck on block 707?  No new block for an hour?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: Vorksholk on September 24, 2014, 12:43:37 PM
Is anyone else seeing things stuck on block 707?  No new block for an hour?

Block 752 here.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: paulthetafy on September 24, 2014, 12:45:04 PM
Is anyone else seeing things stuck on block 707?  No new block for an hour?

Block 752 here.

I have the most horrible feeling ive been mining (a lot) on a fork from the beginning.  How can I tell?

Edit - I think I forked the last hour or so.  Restarted the wallet and it went to 755 and I had a few orphans. 


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: Thenen on September 24, 2014, 12:47:44 PM
Is this coin profitable?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: paulthetafy on September 24, 2014, 01:10:06 PM
I've mined a good few blocks today and am willing to sell some of it, as I know it has been hard to solo mine.  I don't want to take the piss with prices or start a price war, so please PM me if you want to by some and make me an offer.  I'm happy to donate some to a faucet too if anyone get's one up and running.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: cestballot on September 24, 2014, 01:31:07 PM
bad sync, juste 2 or 3 connection in wallet, so :

http://cestballot.fr/downloadss/sheilddd.png

Need help, debug log send to dev :/

Best


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: bitcurrenty on September 24, 2014, 03:40:12 PM
23:36:50

getmininginfo


23:36:50

{
"blocks" : 927,
"currentblocksize" : 1000,
"currentblocktx" : 0,
"difficulty" : 1159811408166776690033780994309390460872786373829691245814874112.00000000,"errors" : "",
"generate" : false,
"genproclimit" : -1,
"hashespersec" : 0,
[color=red]"networkghps" : 81661509304983835149871585321410424426687168608212479373213696.00000000,[/color]"pooledtx" : 0,"testnet" : false
}

10E3 mined for hours,got nothing.
Dev ,please tell us honestly,are you mining with GPU or ASIC now???

BE ALERT!!!
CoinShield itself is a SHITCOIN and SCAM!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: gatra on September 24, 2014, 03:45:53 PM
hi! I couldn't find the sources for the wallet. Is it me or they're not in the website?
https://github.com/VidereLicet only has sources for the miner.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: yampi on September 24, 2014, 03:47:52 PM
23:36:50

getmininginfo


23:36:50

{
"blocks" : 927,
"currentblocksize" : 1000,
"currentblocktx" : 0,
"difficulty" : 1159811408166776690033780994309390460872786373829691245814874112.00000000,"errors" : "",
"generate" : false,
"genproclimit" : -1,
"hashespersec" : 0,
[color=red]"networkghps" : 81661509304983835149871585321410424426687168608212479373213696.00000000,[/color]"pooledtx" : 0,"testnet" : false
}

10E3 mined for hours,got nothing.
Dev ,please tell us honestly,are you mining with GPU or ASIC now???

BE ALERT!!!
CoinShield itself is a SHITCOIN and SCAM!!!!!!!!!!


No ipo, no ico.No exchanges yet to dump on.
It's just that a lot of people happened to use the many cpus of their mining hardware.
Besides block rate has dropped recently.

I am hoping that coin will relaunch with x64 miner binaries and a pool ready.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: enerbyte on September 24, 2014, 03:56:52 PM
hi! I couldn't find the sources for the wallet. Is it me or they're not in the website?
https://github.com/VidereLicet only has sources for the miner.

If sources are not available, this may be a scam, any answer to this dev?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: bitcurrenty on September 24, 2014, 04:11:00 PM
23:36:50

getmininginfo


23:36:50

{
"blocks" : 927,
"currentblocksize" : 1000,
"currentblocktx" : 0,
"difficulty" : 1159811408166776690033780994309390460872786373829691245814874112.00000000,"errors" : "",
"generate" : false,
"genproclimit" : -1,
"hashespersec" : 0,
[color=red]"networkghps" : 81661509304983835149871585321410424426687168608212479373213696.00000000,[/color]"pooledtx" : 0,"testnet" : false
}

10E3 mined for hours,got nothing.
Dev ,please tell us honestly,are you mining with GPU or ASIC now???

BE ALERT!!!
CoinShield itself is a SHITCOIN and SCAM!!!!!!!!!!


No ipo, no ico.No exchanges yet to dump on.
It's just that a lot of people happened to use the many cpus of their mining hardware.
Besides block rate has dropped recently.

I am hoping that coin will relaunch with x64 miner binaries and a pool ready.

Do the maths and see how many E3 you need to get such huge hashrate 81661509304983835149871585321410424426687168608212479373213696.00000000


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: Videlicet on September 24, 2014, 04:17:58 PM
The difficulty is 3.947357

Check your debug.log

received block 137d981ca3024b924ce2
CBlock(hash=137d981ca3024b924ce2, ver=1, hashPrevBlock=64e5d374c88c1691b856, hashMerkleRoot=c1c7a45aa1, nTime=1411574946, nBits=0259ced0, nChannel = 1, nHeight = 946, nNonce=215312, vtx=1, vchBlockSig=308194024803621d1b23c4c7cafc64ff1b0262ab53c17e26ad4d80953ec0f7e054bd8ad2ac4204fe668cef1075b4130dacfc0069328230af31123748a7814c2acc91936df229c27729c85c62ae024800fe06441d4324fc380c58d8544a2768da3197546123eca0ebd239936d022c3c68d9117b66820f2096bbb1b0d513d1dfca660bdf7d4a628837344b1db12585d27045bc9e17f3166f)
  Coinbase(hash=c1c7a45aa1, nTime=1411574852, ver=1, vin.size=1, vout.size=3, nLockTime=0)
    CTxIn(COutPoint(0000000000, -1), coinbase 073857c9a5a17501)
    CTxOut(nValue=63.68494, scriptPubKey=0203a5fa30806d4c506c84536aa60e5791af9a182c44d71275a7329e6227509ac286c83242b90f992aa125168787166a6cc15a0c31bb254b4c7becdcce90817c699055b3437d159680 OP_CHECKSIG)
    CTxOut(nValue=13.743491, scriptPubKey=OP_DUP OP_HASH256 11d98ff91a3734bf53131d2395f67b45e10415f7817cd0b73b24cdc93ce31013 OP_EQUALVERIFY OP_CHECKSIG)
    CTxOut(nValue=1.289301, scriptPubKey=OP_DUP OP_HASH256 ffd71170089c4550f2fa60269cb3ecaed542823adba54fb062cf32d53d887d65 OP_EQUALVERIFY OP_CHECKSIG)
  vMerkleTree:
RETARGET[CPU] time=114 [112.500000 %]
   chain time: [300 / 114]
   released reward: 202 [100.000000 %]
   difficulty: [3.940658 to 3.944008]
   CPU height: 946 [AGE 1067 minutes]

Reserve 0: 50.941321 CSD | Timespan: 1067 - 1069 Minutes
Reserve 1: 10.994129 CSD | Timespan: 1067 - 1069 Minutes
Reserve 2: 1.031370 CSD | Timespan: 1067 - 1069 Minutes
===== Pending Checkpoint Age = 2762 Hash = 2097cdeb0a7474a Modifier = 0x9aa735d41eebff13 Height = 916
SetBestChain: new best=137d981ca3024b924ce2  height=946  trust=948  moneysupply=33593.266242
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED

I'll post an update to the RPC console today that has an accurate depiction of the difficulty. This number that you are seeing is still using the equations bitcoin used for modulation from nBits, where this CPU channel utilizes the nBits completely differently [It is not acting as a compact representative of a 1024 bit hash, this would be for the GPU channel which has not launched. There is no hashing on this channel other than creating the block hash from nVersion to nBits in which the Prime Cluster is searched from.

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: bitcurrenty on September 24, 2014, 04:24:05 PM
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Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: fudge on September 24, 2014, 04:28:29 PM
@Videlicet, any ETA on x64 miner for windows?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: yampi on September 24, 2014, 04:28:46 PM
Where is source?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: KryptoKash on September 24, 2014, 05:01:01 PM
Where is source?



The source code will be made fully available post-launch, at the launch of the Coinshield Exchange Channels. I will be releasing Doxygen documentation for the Coinshield Core [Pre Launch] to help amplify just that, trust, while protecting the innovation.

Viz.



Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: Videlicet on September 24, 2014, 07:23:49 PM
@Videlicet, any ETA on x64 miner for windows?

Yeah that actually is next on my TODO list.

Also due to suggestions here, I'm going to work on getting a pool developed as a higher priority to help the little miners get some CSD. Today I am going to be fixing up the bugs in the miner, getting it stable, and compiling for x64. Keep posted for that update.


New Binaries: I just finished the RPC command getmininginfo so there is no more confusion on the difficulty. The number in these binaries is an accurate depiction of the current CPU difficulty. The whole number is the Prime Cluster Size, and the Decimal is a proportion of the Fermat Remainders. These binaries include this and the update disclosed below.


Ubuntu (http://coinshield.io/binaries/ubuntu-x86.tar.gz)
Windows (http://coinshield.io/binaries/windows-x86.zip)



I would like to start a support database that is more organized than just this thread on coinshieldtalk.org (http://coinshieldtalk.org). I will be there from now on, and will post updates here. If you have questions, either e-mail me, or post in the support section on coinshieldtalk.org (http://coinshieldtalk.org). This will build a searchable support database for any new people coming in, and better enable me to supply valid support to any and all who necessitate it.



Fun Fact: There have been 37,370 CSD released with the first day of mining. This is 0.03737% of the total supply. The Released Reserve system is keeping the supply on track... No Inflation, no Instamine. It will take 10 years to fully release the 100 million.


Update: Fixed some small issues in Unified Time if your clock drifts faster than others [So I am allowing the moving average to be more fluid]. If you are still experiencing forks try the latest binaries [And Delete your time.dat file]. This will usually happen on older computers, or computers where your motherboard battery is getting low so the vibrations in the quartz which is holding the time doesn't stay as consistent as it should


Working: On Address seeding to get more connected nodes without the need for nodes list. Once I get this finished I'll post an Update.


Current Block:


CBlock(hash=937c2fc60119aa732e2f, ver=1, hashPrevBlock=5a73bbb542d387190990, hashMerkleRoot=f4535455a6, nTime=1411586386, nBits=025ac2fa, nChannel = 1, nHeight = 1086, nNonce=34251, vtx=1, vchBlockSig=3081940248009d87fa729cd6aacc6e3885f442326c4ad77ec34e82701d17cf56b354e97253d6a647763e3e83af1e9f3797214f35ded8b3bad24595350bcf8a537cd8fd46b25ddcd52cb466f9b9024803b64ec0761c6a7f378b44a42b1611473463cb9299cd3571ddf1af3aa945ca51b3e793cfb531c66659d38eb451c3014b0fcff51cc5a6c7d37be1c77a91719f42707c6b974be4cbc3)
  Coinbase(hash=f4535455a6, nTime=1411586371, ver=1, vin.size=1, vout.size=3, nLockTime=0)
    CTxIn(COutPoint(0000000000, -1), coinbase 07b5802b9e1c8c00)
    CTxOut(nValue=5.518532, scriptPubKey=02035a0954826ee72eaee636eb8c2c24545122e14aae348d59a3ebd5ad638e3990ae3afd4673afd26b3e3b9070e05f7d0cea3748e353436aa278094db01f8f493ce310b3704b2ca16f OP_CHECKSIG)
    CTxOut(nValue=1.191019, scriptPubKey=OP_DUP OP_HASH256 f69af73f5505cefa9e6dae105eae72d05e400f5d46ea8833f55793a84cf24617 OP_EQUALVERIFY OP_CHECKSIG)
    CTxOut(nValue=0.11173, scriptPubKey=OP_DUP OP_HASH256 adb9af0427e34604078851e6a89569e647332d6b0895d18558aeb4a00624ff83 OP_EQUALVERIFY OP_CHECKSIG)
  vMerkleTree:
RETARGET[CPU] time=13 [112.500000 %]
   chain time: [300 / 13]
   released reward: 44 [100.000000 %]
   difficulty: [3.946910 to 3.950259]
   CPU height: 1086 [AGE 1259 minutes]

===== Pending Checkpoint Age = 2911 Hash = 0e81090d4fbcc3b Modifier = 0x8cd6bb0989f5b8be Height = 1043
SetBestChain: new best=937c2fc60119aa732e2f  height=1086  trust=1088  moneysupply=39762.472628
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED



Last Checkpoint: Hash = 19621b28c1d1b769b5c3 | Modifier = 0x6144f099a394bb1a | Height = 993


Thank You,
Viz.



Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: siliconchip on September 25, 2014, 12:43:16 AM
We need a relaunch ASAP,otherwise this coin is not legit.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: paulthetafy on September 25, 2014, 12:48:31 AM
We need a relaunch ASAP,otherwise this coin is not legit.

For what reason?  Plenty of people have been mining this successfully, including myself.  The binaries are fine (although they could be improved) and the miner source is there too.  The only thing missing is the wallet source, and there is a legitimate reason for not releasing that yet.  The first 24 hours appears to have gone pretty well and the early forking issues have been resolved.  All in all, a pretty fair launch.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: jorneyflair on September 25, 2014, 12:51:36 AM
We need a relaunch ASAP,otherwise this coin is not legit.

For what reason?  Plenty of people have been mining this successfully, including myself.  The binaries are fine (although they could be improved) and the miner source is there too.  The only thing missing is the wallet source, and there is a legitimate reason for not releasing that yet.  The first 24 hours appears to have gone pretty well and the early forking issues have been resolved.  All in all, a pretty fair launch.
Comparing the total supply is 100million till now  less than 0.1m coins has been mined . There will be plenty of time for mining i think.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: paulthetafy on September 25, 2014, 12:58:18 AM
We need a relaunch ASAP,otherwise this coin is not legit.

For what reason?  Plenty of people have been mining this successfully, including myself.  The binaries are fine (although they could be improved) and the miner source is there too.  The only thing missing is the wallet source, and there is a legitimate reason for not releasing that yet.  The first 24 hours appears to have gone pretty well and the early forking issues have been resolved.  All in all, a pretty fair launch.
Comparing the total supply is 100million till now  less than 0.1m coins has been mined . There will be plenty of time for mining i think.
Agreed.  Remember that the rate of coin supply is controlled, so it is pretty accurately minting 25 a minute / 36k a day.  At that rate it will take almost 8 years to mint all 100m.  This controlled supply (block reward proportional to time since last block) is a great way to prevent instamining and provide fair rewards for miners. 


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: merc84 on September 25, 2014, 01:31:05 AM
@Videlicet, any ETA on x64 miner for windows?

Yeah that actually is next on my TODO list.

waiting this.
+1 my E3 1230v3 is waiting :)


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: paulthetafy on September 25, 2014, 02:55:15 AM
I've mined a good few blocks today and am willing to sell some of it, as I know it has been hard to solo mine.  I don't want to take the piss with prices or start a price war, so please PM me if you want to by some and make me an offer.  I'm happy to donate some to a faucet too if anyone get's one up and running.

This offer is still open.  My intention here is help distribute some coins to those who have solo mined so far without success, so I am open to sensible offers.   Please PM me


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: merc84 on September 25, 2014, 03:04:27 AM
I've mined a good few blocks today and am willing to sell some of it, as I know it has been hard to solo mine.  I don't want to take the piss with prices or start a price war, so please PM me if you want to by some and make me an offer.  I'm happy to donate some to a faucet too if anyone get's one up and running.

This offer is still open.  My intention here is help distribute some coins to those who have solo mined so far without success, so I am open to sensible offers.   Please PM me
Curious how many blocks you found today, I did well about 12hours ago but no blocks for 8hours or so now.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: Superxfast on September 25, 2014, 03:22:51 AM
I want to buy some coinshield. PM me. I will buy if that is a good price.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: blaaaaacksuit on September 25, 2014, 04:08:45 AM
I might be interested in buying a few of these.  How much are they being traded for amongst you all?  PM me if you want to make an offer.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: paulthetafy on September 25, 2014, 04:37:08 AM
I might be interested in buying a few of these.  How much are they being traded for amongst you all?  PM me if you want to make an offer.

PM sent


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: paulthetafy on September 25, 2014, 04:43:52 AM
I've mined a good few blocks today and am willing to sell some of it, as I know it has been hard to solo mine.  I don't want to take the piss with prices or start a price war, so please PM me if you want to by some and make me an offer.  I'm happy to donate some to a faucet too if anyone get's one up and running.

This offer is still open.  My intention here is help distribute some coins to those who have solo mined so far without success, so I am open to sensible offers.   Please PM me
Curious how many blocks you found today, I did well about 12hours ago but no blocks for 8hours or so now.

It's certainly got a lot harder as a lot more miners have joined now I think.  Pools will be needed fairly soon.  It took me a little while to get my miners running (damn linux) so I missed the first few hours but got some blocks after that.  It's slowed down a lot now though but I have had blocks today. 


On a different note, I tried fixing the segmentation fault last night by introducing a mutex when retrieving new blocks.  But I then found I was getting the occasional deadlock so I've done something wrong somewhere :)  I'll take another look tonight.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: fandesase on September 25, 2014, 05:42:08 AM
No law will automatically stop mining! !


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: Videlicet on September 25, 2014, 08:00:05 AM
Added Mutex Locks to Primeminer, new source on my Github. Still encountered Segmentation Fault though  :-\
Let me know your results as a degree of improvement.

Thank You,
Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: merc84 on September 25, 2014, 08:32:37 AM
Bit rusty on linux still; did "git pull" to update but ubuntu@ubuntu:~/primeminer$ make clean
make: *** No rule to make target `clean'.  Stop.
how to clean build?

Edit: Might be worth mentioning only getting segfault from previous build on i7 4770k, i5 3570k has run since launch without segfault.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: paulthetafy on September 25, 2014, 08:44:19 AM
Bit rusty on linux still; did "git pull" to update but ubuntu@ubuntu:~/primeminer$ make clean
make: *** No rule to make target `clean'.  Stop.
how to clean build?

Edit: Might be worth mentioning only getting segfault from previous build on i7 4770k, i5 3570k has run since launch without segfault.

make -f makefile.unix

or make -j8 -f makefile.unix (the 8 being number of threads to build with)


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: merc84 on September 25, 2014, 08:46:49 AM
Bit rusty on linux still; did "git pull" to update but ubuntu@ubuntu:~/primeminer$ make clean
make: *** No rule to make target `clean'.  Stop.
how to clean build?

Edit: Might be worth mentioning only getting segfault from previous build on i7 4770k, i5 3570k has run since launch without segfault.

make -f makefile.unix

or make -j8 -f makefile.unix (the 8 being number of threads to build with)


I know the cmd to compile  :)  I was wondering how to remove the already built files, from memory with other miners i've run "make clean"

Edit: Also the output of the new build seems "strange" the Meters output seems much much slower than previous build.

[METERS] 22679.023529 SPS | 31.741176 PPS | Height = 1592
[METERS] 25558.700000 SPS | 46.600000 PPS | Height = 1592
[METERS] 70294.142857 SPS | 110.142857 PPS | Height = 1592
[METERS] 51540.625000 SPS | 59.750000 PPS | Height = 1592
[METERS] 38107.833333 SPS | 50.500000 PPS | Height = 1592
[METERS] 44799.000000 SPS | 84.500000 PPS | Height = 1592
[METERS] 58842.166667 SPS | 75.666667 PPS | Height = 1592
[METERS] 64534.800000 SPS | 123.900000 PPS | Height = 1592
[MASTER] Coinshield Network: New Block 1593
[METERS] 42817.125000 SPS | 32.562500 PPS | Height = 1593
[METERS] 27897.500000 SPS | 51.125000 PPS | Height = 1593
[METERS] 39008.250000 SPS | 65.625000 PPS | Height = 1593
[MASTER] Coinshield Network: New Block 1594
[METERS] 29257.444444 SPS | 35.444444 PPS | Height = 1594
[METERS] 54324.333333 SPS | 120.000000 PPS | Height = 1594

Edit2: Then some connection issue to the wallet, previous build is chugging away fine on another machine.
[MASTER] Coinshield Network: New Block 1595
[METERS] 32235.000000 SPS | 39.800000 PPS | Height = 1595
[METERS] 89994.000000 SPS | 203.000000 PPS | Height = 1595
Failed to Update Height...




Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: Hix on September 25, 2014, 09:02:54 AM
What your previous build METERS result?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: merc84 on September 25, 2014, 09:03:35 AM
previous build was ~ 33PPS


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: paulthetafy on September 25, 2014, 09:05:27 AM
Bit rusty on linux still; did "git pull" to update but ubuntu@ubuntu:~/primeminer$ make clean
make: *** No rule to make target `clean'.  Stop.
how to clean build?

Edit: Might be worth mentioning only getting segfault from previous build on i7 4770k, i5 3570k has run since launch without segfault.

make -f makefile.unix

or make -j8 -f makefile.unix (the 8 being number of threads to build with)


I know the cmd to compile  :)  I was wondering how to remove the already built files, from memory with other miners i've run "make clean"

Edit: Also the output of the new build seems "strange" the Meters output seems much much slower than previous build.

[METERS] 22679.023529 SPS | 31.741176 PPS | Height = 1592
[METERS] 25558.700000 SPS | 46.600000 PPS | Height = 1592
[METERS] 70294.142857 SPS | 110.142857 PPS | Height = 1592
[METERS] 51540.625000 SPS | 59.750000 PPS | Height = 1592
[METERS] 38107.833333 SPS | 50.500000 PPS | Height = 1592
[METERS] 44799.000000 SPS | 84.500000 PPS | Height = 1592
[METERS] 58842.166667 SPS | 75.666667 PPS | Height = 1592
[METERS] 64534.800000 SPS | 123.900000 PPS | Height = 1592
[MASTER] Coinshield Network: New Block 1593
[METERS] 42817.125000 SPS | 32.562500 PPS | Height = 1593
[METERS] 27897.500000 SPS | 51.125000 PPS | Height = 1593
[METERS] 39008.250000 SPS | 65.625000 PPS | Height = 1593
[MASTER] Coinshield Network: New Block 1594
[METERS] 29257.444444 SPS | 35.444444 PPS | Height = 1594
[METERS] 54324.333333 SPS | 120.000000 PPS | Height = 1594

Edit2: Then some connection issue to the wallet, previous build is chugging away fine on another machine.
[MASTER] Coinshield Network: New Block 1595
[METERS] 32235.000000 SPS | 39.800000 PPS | Height = 1595
[METERS] 89994.000000 SPS | 203.000000 PPS | Height = 1595
Failed to Update Height...



You still have to provide the make file was my point.
So make clean -f makefile.unix


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: yampi on September 25, 2014, 09:09:20 AM
I compiled miner with cygwin and the PPS rate went up greatly.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: merc84 on September 25, 2014, 09:12:26 AM
thanks Paul  :)


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: Hix on September 25, 2014, 09:13:04 AM
previous build was ~ 33PPS
Why say "much much slower" if you have same results?)
Quote
[METERS] 22679.023529 SPS | 31.741176 PPS | Height = 1592


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: merc84 on September 25, 2014, 09:16:07 AM
previous build was ~ 33PPS
Why say "much much slower" if you have same results?)
Quote
[METERS] 22679.023529 SPS | 31.741176 PPS | Height = 1592
Sorry for the confusion but the actual display of the output happens less often. I hope that makes sense.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: paulthetafy on September 25, 2014, 09:57:41 AM
previous build was ~ 33PPS
Why say "much much slower" if you have same results?)
Quote
[METERS] 22679.023529 SPS | 31.741176 PPS | Height = 1592
Sorry for the confusion but the actual display of the output happens less often. I hope that makes sense.

Yeah that makes sense and I'm seeing the same result.  I'm also seeing very frequent segmentation faults still which is not good.  Maybe hold off on this miner until it is resolved.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: paulthetafy on September 25, 2014, 10:23:09 AM
Added Mutex Locks to Primeminer, new source on my Github. Still encountered Segmentation Fault though  :-\
Let me know your results as a degree of improvement.

Thank You,
Viz.

Viz, I think you can simplify your solution by moving the mutex lock in the ServerThread loop INSIDE the if(BLOCK) statement around line 313 of miner.cpp. 

Code:
if(BLOCK)
{
LOCK(THREADS[nIndex]->MUTEX);
 
THREADS[nIndex]->BLOCK = BLOCK;

THREADS[nIndex]->fBlockFound = false;
THREADS[nIndex]->fNewBlock   = false;
}


You can then remove all other places that you are locking accept for the lock in PrimeMiner, which is fine.  As I understand it, you don't need to protect against asynchronous access to integral data types as they are inherently thread safe as they are on the stack, so only protect access to the BLOCK pointer on the miner thread instance.  By doing this, you remove the need for the server thread to have synchronous access to the state of each thread when updating the METERS, so they update regularly rather than having to wait for each miner thread to finish as it is doing now - it mean each METERS read out happens regularly and with consistent results which it is not doing right now.

Unfortunately I'm still seeing the segmentation fault (even with your code) so I think there is somewhere else that needs making threadsafe.

Cheers
Paul


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: Videlicet on September 25, 2014, 10:50:26 AM
Thanks for the data guys, I'll post another update tomorrow; end this bug once and for all. [And get some x64 windows binaries too]

If you are having issues with the Failed to Update Height, try a larger timeout, the default is 10 seconds. This is the 4th commandline argument. 127.0.0.1 9325 4 20. Does it get stuck in a loop of Failed to Update Height, Failed to Connect, etc, or does it eventually reconnect?

I did notice higher PPS on my machine as well. The real tell here though will be SPS, the PPS is prime numbers found per second, SPS is Searches per Second. Prime numbers can be in random clusters, so this is why you see variations with higher PPS and lower PPS each meter update. Searches per Second will tell you how quickly your miner is searching nNonce values, similar to hash rate.

This at least is a decent improvement. We'll see what others can be made.  :)

Goodnight Everybody,
Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: fudge on September 25, 2014, 11:35:25 AM
any compiled .exe available?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: Videlicet on September 25, 2014, 01:29:04 PM
Optimized Miner: I am getting 2 - 3x PPS now [about 40-50 PPS on 4 cores from 18-24 PPS]. We'll see about the Segmentation Faults.

Github Source (http://github.com/VidereLicet/primeminer)
Windows x86 (http://coinshield.io/binaries/primeminer-x86.zip) [No x64 yet, I still haven't slept]


Had some fun all night with the Sieve of Eratosthenes and Mutexes: some things are more important than sleep! Thank someone for waking me up at 3:00 AM, this and insomnia led me to this update  :D

Viz.



Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: merc84 on September 25, 2014, 01:39:02 PM
Are you using libgmp if so what version?

[MASTER] Coinshield Network: New Block 1758
[METERS] 57883.727273 SPS | 85.272727 PPS | Height = 1758
[METERS] 68272.272727 SPS | 103.636364 PPS | Height = 1758
[METERS] 65839.000000 SPS | 88.181818 PPS | Height = 1758
[METERS] 61276.909091 SPS | 87.000000 PPS | Height = 1758
[METERS] 63026.818182 SPS | 88.636364 PPS | Height = 1758
[METERS] 68276.000000 SPS | 110.090909 PPS | Height = 1758
[METERS] 104962.000000 SPS | 179.545455 PPS | Height = 1758
[METERS] 116121.818182 SPS | 185.636364 PPS | Height = 1758
[METERS] 129446.636364 SPS | 262.636364 PPS | Height = 1758
[METERS] 205827.090909 SPS | 186.090909 PPS | Height = 1758
[METERS] 95890.727273 SPS | 127.636364 PPS | Height = 1758
[METERS] 61557.000000 SPS | 102.636364 PPS | Height = 1758
[METERS] 112538.545455 SPS | 132.818182 PPS | Height = 1758
[METERS] 93726.363636 SPS | 140.454545 PPS | Height = 1758
[MASTER] Coinshield Network: New Block 1759
[METERS] 78634.818182 SPS | 123.363636 PPS | Height = 1759
[METERS] 73791.363636 SPS | 86.909091 PPS | Height = 1759
[METERS] 62523.454545 SPS | 77.727273 PPS | Height = 1759

something is just not right with this build... this is my i5 my i7 just hangs on Newblock.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: Videlicet on September 25, 2014, 01:45:32 PM
Are you using libgmp if so what version?

No sir, check prime.cpp. I wrote my own sieve of Eratosthenes for divisor tests before Miller-Rabin and Fermat. You can play around with the nSieveSize to get optimal results. I set these binaries at 200, and this seems to be the most optimal thus far.

edit: could you give me more data? I have two miners running with no issues.

Viz.



Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: wisnon on September 25, 2014, 01:53:01 PM
Optimized Miner: I am getting 2 - 3x PPS now [about 40-50 PPS on 4 cores from 18-24 PPS]. We'll see about the Segmentation Faults.

Github Source (http://github.com/VidereLicet/primeminer)
Windows x86 (http://coinshield.io/binaries/primeminer-x86.zip) [No x64 yet, I still haven't slept]


Had some fun all night with the Sieve of Eratosthenes and Mutexes: some things are more important than sleep! Thank someone for waking me up at 3:00 AM, this and insomnia led me to this update  :D

Viz.



windows7 64 Bit Speed ​​does not improve?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: wisnon on September 25, 2014, 01:55:08 PM
Mining will automatically stop!


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: Videlicet on September 25, 2014, 01:55:28 PM
windows7 64 Bit Speed ​​does not improve?

I'm seeing my Windows 7 64 bit go from 4 PPS to 10 PPS.

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: merc84 on September 25, 2014, 01:56:50 PM
Of course:
i7 4770k @ 4.2ghz ubuntu 13.10
hangs on New block directly after connecting to wallet.
i5 3570k @ 4.2ghz ubuntu 13.10 runs ok but the output is like so
[MASTER] Coinshield Network: New Block 1767
[METERS] 90721.636364 SPS | 145.000000 PPS | Height = 1767
[METERS] 92843.181818 SPS | 98.090909 PPS | Height = 1767
[METERS] 63305.363636 SPS | 85.727273 PPS | Height = 1767
[METERS] 61715.363636 SPS | 104.545455 PPS | Height = 1767
[METERS] 83212.181818 SPS | 120.909091 PPS | Height = 1767
[METERS] 74373.909091 SPS | 91.000000 PPS | Height = 1767
[METERS] 69206.000000 SPS | 92.636364 PPS | Height = 1767
Stats Output is much slower than earlier builds and very inconsistent (ie values jump around alot)


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: Videlicet on September 25, 2014, 01:59:05 PM
Of course:
i7 4770k @ 4.2ghz ubuntu 13.10
hangs on New block directly after connecting to wallet.
i5 3570k @ 4.2ghz ubuntu 13.10 runs ok but the output is like so
[MASTER] Coinshield Network: New Block 1767
[METERS] 90721.636364 SPS | 145.000000 PPS | Height = 1767
[METERS] 92843.181818 SPS | 98.090909 PPS | Height = 1767
[METERS] 63305.363636 SPS | 85.727273 PPS | Height = 1767
[METERS] 61715.363636 SPS | 104.545455 PPS | Height = 1767
[METERS] 83212.181818 SPS | 120.909091 PPS | Height = 1767
[METERS] 74373.909091 SPS | 91.000000 PPS | Height = 1767
[METERS] 69206.000000 SPS | 92.636364 PPS | Height = 1767
Stats Output is much slower than earlier builds and very inconsistent (ie values jump around alot)

Ah deadlock, thank you. I'll post a fix. You compiling from Github?

edit: removed mutex from meter. Let me know if this brings different results.

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: merc84 on September 25, 2014, 02:01:41 PM
yes did git pull then make clean and rebuild.

Edit: just found a block on the i5,
[METERS] 82686.090909 SPS | 97.636364 PPS | Height = 1774
[MASTER] Prime Cluster of Difficulty 4.106306 Found on Thread 3

911f331bd073984e095a7cc8a35fc084ea5750fb3d4bbb6b1a8bd8d0de1e289bd011dea2bb3219c 05f6814e990a10c4ca44e5bc4405b15af275093b8bbfcc72ce22eda11a9b46c453e5169f4025fd9 61b08c34b6e05e18162c0111c946b190c482680a4abeab02341f2a622c8a3f3ee733198a57eaa5a 1097068162697eb9c68

[MASTER] Block Accepted By Coinshield Network.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: Videlicet on September 25, 2014, 02:04:33 PM
yes did git pull then make clean and rebuild.

Edit: just found a block on the i5,
[METERS] 82686.090909 SPS | 97.636364 PPS | Height = 1774
[MASTER] Prime Cluster of Difficulty 4.106306 Found on Thread 3

911f331bd073984e095a7cc8a35fc084ea5750fb3d4bbb6b1a8bd8d0de1e289bd011dea2bb3219c 05f6814e990a10c4ca44e5bc4405b15af275093b8bbfcc72ce22eda11a9b46c453e5169f4025fd9 61b08c34b6e05e18162c0111c946b190c482680a4abeab02341f2a622c8a3f3ee733198a57eaa5a 1097068162697eb9c68

[MASTER] Block Accepted By Coinshield Network.


I just removed the Mutexes from Meter. It appears this worked.  :)

edit: What is your PPS increase?

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: merc84 on September 25, 2014, 02:11:16 PM
i7 now mining fine :) and stats nice and smooth on both rigs:
i5 ~ 75PPS
i7 ~ 85PPS

Thank you very nice work! :)

Edit:
Thats i5 + 40 PPS i7 + 45 PPS.
wow!


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: Videlicet on September 25, 2014, 02:14:44 PM
i7 now mining fine :) and stats nice and smooth on both rigs:
i5 ~ 75PPS
i7 ~ 85PPS

Thank you very nice work! :)

Edit:
Thats i5 + 40 PPS i7 + 45 PPS.
wow!

Glad to know its good now, thanks for helping debug  :)
It seems these bugs only come out on fast computers, and mine are quite slow.

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: merc84 on September 25, 2014, 02:17:14 PM
If only i could get my E3 1230v3 on linux easily :)


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: wisnon on September 25, 2014, 02:19:42 PM
windows7 64 Bit E3 1230 V3 much PPS?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: merc84 on September 25, 2014, 02:21:03 PM
windows7 64 Bit E3 1230 V3 much PPS?
don't have win 64bit binary yet.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: Videlicet on September 25, 2014, 02:23:15 PM
windows7 64 Bit E3 1230 V3 much PPS?
don't have win 64bit binary yet.

This will be my first TODO for today.

Viz.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: merc84 on September 25, 2014, 02:30:35 PM
Sleep is top of my TODO list :) I'll check back in the morning for win 64bit binaries :)


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: BitSlapper on September 25, 2014, 03:32:51 PM
Sleep is top of my TODO list :) I'll check back in the morning for win 64bit binaries :)

I know Viz has been working tirelessly for the past couple of days and I'd figure I'd help out where I can...

I built a Windows 7 x64 binary for the cpu miner if anyone is interested.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: SRBOOTH on September 25, 2014, 03:42:34 PM
Sleep is top of my TODO list :) I'll check back in the morning for win 64bit binaries :)

I know Viz has been working tirelessly for the past couple of days and I'd figure I'd help out where I can...

I built a Windows 7 x64 binary for the cpu miner if anyone is interested.

Please post it ......?


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: BitSlapper on September 25, 2014, 03:43:53 PM
Sleep is top of my TODO list :) I'll check back in the morning for win 64bit binaries :)

I know Viz has been working tirelessly for the past couple of days and I'd figure I'd help out where I can...

I built a Windows 7 x64 binary for the cpu miner if anyone is interested.

Please post it ......?

ok, I don't have access to the CoinShield server so I'll put it on a file share site


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: SRBOOTH on September 25, 2014, 03:45:08 PM
Sleep is top of my TODO list :) I'll check back in the morning for win 64bit binaries :)

I know Viz has been working tirelessly for the past couple of days and I'd figure I'd help out where I can...

I built a Windows 7 x64 binary for the cpu miner if anyone is interested.

Please post it ......?

ok, I don't have access to the CoinShield server so I'll put it on a file share site
Great!! Please do.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: BitSlapper on September 25, 2014, 03:57:39 PM
Here it is.

I built it from the latest source of the prime miner.


https://www.dropbox.com/s/fhvz0awzr086g22/primeminer-x64.7z?dl=0

 


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: SRBOOTH on September 25, 2014, 04:13:50 PM
Here it is.

I built it from the latest source of the prime miner.


https://www.dropbox.com/s/fhvz0awzr086g22/primeminer-x64.7z?dl=0

 

Thanks .....looks like requires open ssl to run....I don't have it :(


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: yampi on September 25, 2014, 04:14:59 PM
Here it is.

I built it from the latest source of the prime miner.


https://www.dropbox.com/s/fhvz0awzr086g22/primeminer-x64.7z?dl=0

 

It gives an error when I try to run it.


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: bitcurrenty on September 25, 2014, 04:21:20 PM
GPU miner will release on  10/7/2014?
WHY?
no pool,no 64bit CPU miner?
seems like kind of unfair distribution. >:(


Title: Re: [ANN] CoinShield -SK-1024 | 11 New Features |CPU Launched| GPU Launch Date Set
Post by: yampi on September 25, 2014, 04:26:10 PM
GPU miner will release on  10/7/2014?
WHY?
no pool,no 64bit CPU miner?
seems like kind of unfair distribution. >