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Title: Rocket is secretly taking off yet again!
Post by: ineededausername on February 23, 2012, 05:31:27 AM
Ask wall gone!  Let's see where this goes.  I saw a few large buys just then and the ghost lines are 5k above the current ask line.  The distance to $5 as of right now is 25k BTC.


Title: Re: Rocket is secretly taking off yet again!
Post by: ineededausername on February 23, 2012, 05:34:37 AM
Update: We're at $4.6! Everyone get ready for a giant rally!
Update2: $4.68!


Title: Re: Rocket is secretly taking off yet again!
Post by: chsados on February 23, 2012, 06:29:31 AM
speculation forum is becoming a bit like 4chan  :'(


Title: Re: Rocket is secretly taking off yet again!
Post by: bitclown on February 23, 2012, 07:28:29 AM
speculation forum is becoming a bit like 4chan  :'(
You must be new here. :D


Title: Re: Rocket is secretly taking off yet again!
Post by: realnowhereman on February 23, 2012, 08:03:33 AM
The last two announced secret rockets were followed by large price drops.

I'd be a bit more circumspect with my use of the words "taking off" and "again" if I were you.

(Note I'm not predicting price I'm commenting on abuse of history and English)


Title: Re: Rocket is secretly taking off yet again!
Post by: Cluster2k on February 23, 2012, 09:54:53 AM
The last two announced secret rockets were followed by large price drops.

I'd be a bit more circumspect with my use of the words "taking off" and "again" if I were you.

(Note I'm not predicting price I'm commenting on abuse of history and English)

Someone always needs a fresh group of buyers to sell into their bids.  I'm sure these forums are liberally used to move the price to the advantage of certain parties on a regular basis.  Heck, if I had thousands of bitcoins I know I would  :D


Title: Re: Rocket is secretly taking off yet again!
Post by: waspoza on February 23, 2012, 10:24:54 AM
speculation forum is becoming a bit like 4chan  :'(

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Newfags can't triforce.


Title: Re: Rocket is secretly taking off yet again!
Post by: Bro on February 23, 2012, 10:42:44 AM
Ask wall gone!  Let's see where this goes.  I saw a few large buys just then and the ghost lines are 5k above the current ask line.  The distance to $5 as of right now is 25k BTC.

you are manipulatable


Title: Re: Rocket is secretly taking off yet again!
Post by: ineededausername on February 23, 2012, 01:41:53 PM
Oh, look where the price went, fuckers. UP! :)


Title: Re: Rocket is secretly taking off yet again!
Post by: BadBear on February 23, 2012, 01:58:56 PM
Third times the charm I guess  ;)


Title: Re: Rocket is secretly taking off yet again!
Post by: Maged on February 24, 2012, 03:53:01 AM
And if you subscribed to waveaddict's daily 2.5 btc/month email subscription, you knew that this was going to happen well before this thread was made. You'll also know when it's about to go back down...

(just sayin')


Title: Re: Rocket is secretly taking off yet again!
Post by: copumpkin on February 24, 2012, 05:45:46 AM
you knew that this was going to happen

 ::)


Title: Re: Rocket is secretly taking off yet again!
Post by: byronbb on February 24, 2012, 08:08:40 AM
https://i.imgur.com/3nP29.gif


Title: Re: Rocket is secretly taking off yet again!
Post by: RaggedMonk on February 24, 2012, 08:57:39 AM
For fucks sake, can you people please stop calling every 30 cent price increase a rocket?


Title: Re: Rocket is secretly taking off yet again!
Post by: wobber on February 24, 2012, 10:10:09 AM
For fucks sake, can you people please stop calling every 30 cent price increase a rocket?

It's a bird! It's an airplane! It's a... superspeculatedkryptocurrency,man!


Title: Re: Rocket is secretly taking off yet again!
Post by: Mageant on February 24, 2012, 11:19:39 AM
It's a non-secret rocket now.
 8)


Title: Re: Rocket is secretly taking off yet again!
Post by: ineededausername on February 24, 2012, 01:42:54 PM
For fucks sake, can you people please stop calling every 30 cent price increase a rocket?

This one went from 4.2 to 5.2... I consider that a rocket.


Title: Re: Rocket is secretly taking off yet again!
Post by: notme on February 24, 2012, 03:46:46 PM
For fucks sake, can you people please stop calling every 30 cent price increase a rocket?

This one went from 4.2 to 5.2... I consider that a rocket.

And we haven't even hit the 3rd stage boosters yet.  Too bad this one will crater lower than it launched from.


Title: Re: Rocket is secretly taking off yet again!
Post by: stochastic on February 24, 2012, 04:44:09 PM
Bitcoinica's * overbought indicator is gone but now we have the interest given to the sell side when it is overbought.


Title: Re: Rocket is secretly taking off yet again!
Post by: Technomage on March 01, 2012, 12:04:40 PM
I believe there is a secret rocket taking off again. Lots of small buying over the last 24hrs and basically no serious selling. Ask walls are being eaten away slowly but surely. Leads to me believe that a larger buy could be close. Not that it will necessarily lead to anything big, we might still be stuck close to $5 for a while.


Title: Re: Rocket is secretly taking off yet again!
Post by: Mushoz on March 01, 2012, 12:47:23 PM
I believe there is a secret rocket taking off again. Lots of small buying over the last 24hrs and basically no serious selling. Ask walls are being eaten away slowly but surely. Leads to me believe that a larger buy could be close. Not that it will necessarily lead to anything big, we might still be stuck close to $5 for a while.

I've got the same feeling, and I'm ready for it :)


Title: Re: Rocket is secretly taking off yet again!
Post by: realnowhereman on March 01, 2012, 01:11:19 PM
On that point...

is there any way to find, for given division of time, what the total volume of sells and total number of buys was?

I'm defining buy and sell to be "accepted a limit offer from the book" to distinguish them from each other -- buys always equal sells in reality.

I ask because it's perfectly possible to get a massive sell, leaving the asks miles above, and then a tiny buy and the charting sites show it as a green bar making the volume for that period look like it was "huge buy".  To be honest, I'm not sure the current volume bars should be coloured at all.

I'd like to be able to see both volumes separately -- those that move the price up, and those that moved the price down.


Title: Re: Rocket is secretly taking off yet again!
Post by: notme on March 01, 2012, 05:54:07 PM
On that point...

is there any way to find, for given division of time, what the total volume of sells and total number of buys was?

I'm defining buy and sell to be "accepted a limit offer from the book" to distinguish them from each other -- buys always equal sells in reality.

I ask because it's perfectly possible to get a massive sell, leaving the asks miles above, and then a tiny buy and the charting sites show it as a green bar making the volume for that period look like it was "huge buy".  To be honest, I'm not sure the current volume bars should be coloured at all.

I'd like to be able to see both volumes separately -- those that move the price up, and those that moved the price down.

Then become an exchange.  You might be able to estimate by comparing orders to your local copy of the orderbook as they come in, but it won't be precise because your orderbook will usually be slightly behind the real book.


Title: Re: Rocket is secretly taking off yet again!
Post by: the joint on March 01, 2012, 06:00:57 PM
The market's been acting quite funny lately.  This is one of the few times that I'd say I'm completely clueless as to which direction we're headed.  It feels like we've been at a tipping point for about 2 weeks.

That being said, I got the trigger finger ready, but my bullishness is wavering at the moment.


Title: Re: Rocket is secretly taking off yet again!
Post by: proudhon on March 01, 2012, 06:38:09 PM
Fucking bitcoinica is down.  >:(


Title: Re: Rocket is secretly taking off yet again!
Post by: N12 on March 01, 2012, 06:46:22 PM
Fucking bitcoinica is down.  >:(
I’ve warned you about the Bitcoinica.

That place is only waiting to go up in flames eventually.


Title: Re: Rocket is secretly taking off yet again!
Post by: damnek on March 01, 2012, 06:50:56 PM
This would be a perfect timing for a rally..


Title: Re: Rocket is secretly taking off yet again!
Post by: proudhon on March 01, 2012, 06:57:33 PM
This would be a perfect timing for a rally..

No.


Title: Re: Rocket is secretly taking off yet again!
Post by: Unil on March 01, 2012, 07:02:51 PM
Bitcoinica is back up, no worries.


Title: Re: Rocket is secretly taking off yet again!
Post by: proudhon on March 01, 2012, 07:10:43 PM
Bitcoinica is back up, no worries.

Thank god.  I almost tore up my paper wallet in rage.


Title: Re: Rocket is secretly taking off yet again!
Post by: Electricbees on March 01, 2012, 09:49:54 PM
This would be a perfect timing for a Fiery Crash..
Fixed this for you.


Title: Re: Rocket is secretly taking off yet again!
Post by: proudhon on March 01, 2012, 10:01:15 PM
http://i42.tinypic.com/14ybrz7.jpg


Title: Re: Rocket is secretly taking off yet again!
Post by: SkRRJyTC on March 01, 2012, 10:04:30 PM

Those are really nice shorts you have there proudhon.  Summer time and the livings easy...


Title: Re: Rocket is secretly taking off yet again!
Post by: julz on March 02, 2012, 01:25:26 AM
Ok.. confusing.
Is that image saying go short short short...
or do I need to look more closely at the crotches for the 'secret rocket'? 

I'm lost until I understand this important signal.


Title: Re: Rocket is secretly taking off yet again!
Post by: proudhon on March 02, 2012, 01:33:23 AM
Ok, if you guys don't respond to this, then I don't know how else to get you to sell.   :'(

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=66961.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=66961.0)



Title: Re: Rocket is secretly taking off yet again!
Post by: julz on March 02, 2012, 01:47:39 AM
Ok, if you guys don't respond to this, then I don't know how else to get you to sell.   :'(

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=66961.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=66961.0)


Yeah.. the herd will probably move that way. Just like the TradeHill shutdown didn't involve any end-user losses, Linode's screwover of slush/faucet/bitcoinica/(who else?) doesn't look like it'll hit end users either... but the publicity is bad.



Title: Re: Rocket is secretly taking off yet again!
Post by: Hunterbunter on March 02, 2012, 01:49:27 AM
Oh dear...did the rocket just break?


Title: Re: Rocket is secretly taking off yet again!
Post by: proudhon on March 02, 2012, 01:53:18 AM
The worry for traders is that there's now somebody with at least 13,000BTC who probably would prefer having USD.  And it's not really the 13,000 known stolen BTCs that's troubling.  It's that they've probably nabbed a lot more than that.


Title: Re: Rocket is secretly taking off yet again!
Post by: julz on March 02, 2012, 01:58:22 AM
The worry for traders is that there's now somebody with at least 13,000BTC who probably would prefer having USD.  And it's not really the 13,000 known stolen BTCs that's troubling.  It's that they've probably nabbed a lot more than that.

I don't have enough information to class that as 'probable'.  The services that were hit, had to have accessible coins for 'hot-wallet' purposes.  Any other large services would probably already have reported it, and private wealthy bitcoiners would surely have their wallets encrypted.


Title: Re: Rocket is secretly taking off yet again!
Post by: ineededausername on March 02, 2012, 02:49:26 AM
The worry for traders is that there's now somebody with at least 13,000BTC who probably would prefer having USD.  And it's not really the 13,000 known stolen BTCs that's troubling.  It's that they've probably nabbed a lot more than that.

and zhou will buy coins to offset it... it's really neutral at this point


Title: Re: Rocket is secretly taking off yet again!
Post by: Hunterbunter on March 02, 2012, 04:08:09 AM
The worry for traders is that there's now somebody with at least 13,000BTC who probably would prefer having USD.  And it's not really the 13,000 known stolen BTCs that's troubling.  It's that they've probably nabbed a lot more than that.

and zhou will buy coins to offset it... it's really neutral at this point

Would it be ironic if this person did throw them on the market just for the win, setting off trade indicators at an already sensitive time, causing market action?

Someone just sold a few thousand btc...and this board is eerily quiet.

EDIT: lol it looks suspiciously like 13k btc were just sold.


Title: Re: Rocket is secretly taking off yet again!
Post by: N12 on March 02, 2012, 04:10:08 AM
I believe there is a secret rocket taking off again. Lots of small buying over the last 24hrs and basically no serious selling. Ask walls are being eaten away slowly but surely. Leads to me believe that a larger buy could be close. Not that it will necessarily lead to anything big, we might still be stuck close to $5 for a while.
How, Technomage?

How on earth do you do it?


Title: Re: Rocket is secretly taking off yet again!
Post by: Hunterbunter on March 02, 2012, 04:25:44 AM
So the next question:

Is this going to count as a breaker for the bottom triangle thingy?


Title: Re: Rocket is secretly taking off yet again!
Post by: N12 on March 02, 2012, 04:33:53 AM
So the next question:

Is this going to count as a breaker for the bottom triangle thingy?
Yes. Volume confirms.


Title: Re: Rocket is secretly taking off yet again!
Post by: Hunterbunter on March 02, 2012, 04:57:41 AM
So the next question:

Is this going to count as a breaker for the bottom triangle thingy?
Yes. Volume confirms.

wow that bid wall is being massacred. Never seen one get eaten in little bits in real time.


Title: Re: Rocket is secretly taking off yet again!
Post by: Electricbees on March 02, 2012, 05:05:06 AM
Down it went, and with it, prices...