Bitcoin Forum

Bitcoin => Bitcoin Discussion => Topic started by: c5h3ris1253 on June 22, 2014, 04:45:24 AM



Title: Is it possible Satoshi Nakamoto is an acroymn or neumonic?
Post by: c5h3ris1253 on June 22, 2014, 04:45:24 AM
 I've seen a few posts about early emails on systems like bitcoin (Like hashcash) and am trying to bring up could satoshi possibly be the names of the people who satoshi based bitcoin off of? Obviously he was aware of these people's work, could he of used tricks they used and included a letter of their name in the alias?

 For those of you who don't know what an acronym is

S- Sander (or Szabo)
A- Adam Back
T- Ta-Shma
O- xxxxx (Orange)
S- Szabo (or Sander)
H- xxxxxx (Happy)
I- xxxxxx (Igloo)

 I don't know any more so I can't fill it out, maybe you can?


 Emails that brought up the question:
marc.info/?l=cypherpunks&m=95280154629925&w=4
marc.info/?l=cypherpunks&m=95280154629912&w=2

 There are more on that page, also use your own knowledge.

 Anyway, enjoy your day. Just thought I'd bring something that'll keep you busy for the rest of your life.

EDIT: I DIDN'T MAKE THIS CLEAR, THE PEOPLES WHOS NAME ARE IN THAT ACRONYM ABOVE ARE ALL PEOPLE WHO'VE DONE WORK ON CRYPTOSYSTEMS LIKE BITCOIN.


Title: Re: Is it possible Satoshi Nakamoto is an acroymn or neumonic?
Post by: bigasic on June 22, 2014, 04:49:13 AM
I don't think we will ever know who Satoshi is.. At least he/she/they want to tell. I personally believe Satoshi is a group of people, but there is a leader who posted the questions, etc at the beginning. What would be interesting to find out is if the person that posted here as Satoshi, did it come from one ip address? or from one area?

I think its going to be a mystery for a very long time...


Title: Re: Is it possible Satoshi Nakamoto is an acroymn or neumonic?
Post by: waldox on June 22, 2014, 05:35:44 AM
satoshi is a common japanese name
he wanted anonymity so that would be a good name to use


Title: Re: Is it possible Satoshi Nakamoto is an acroymn or neumonic?
Post by: Brooker on June 22, 2014, 09:46:48 AM
It could be an acronym or something but I think people are looking too much into what is probably just a pseudonym he picked.


Title: Re: Is it possible Satoshi Nakamoto is an acroymn or neumonic?
Post by: SOAD on June 22, 2014, 09:53:28 AM
What about this:

I'm inclined to lean toward the following reason:

http://www.wired.com/magazine/2011/11/mf_bitcoin/
Quote
When they weren’t busy mining, the faithful tried to solve the mystery of the man they called simply Satoshi. On a bitcoin IRC channel, someone noted portentously that in Japanese Satoshi means “wise.” Someone else wondered whether the name might be a sly portmanteau of four tech companies: SAmsung, TOSHIba, NAKAmichi, and MOTOrola. It seemed doubtful that Nakamoto was even Japanese. His English had the flawless, idiomatic ring of a native speaker.


Title: Re: Is it possible Satoshi Nakamoto is an acroymn or neumonic?
Post by: rext on June 22, 2014, 09:53:38 AM
or it could be his real name hahaha


Title: Re: Is it possible Satoshi Nakamoto is an acroymn or neumonic?
Post by: Brooker on June 22, 2014, 09:54:46 AM
That SAmsung, TOSHIba, NAKAmichi, and MOTOrola thing is cool, but again I just think people are looking too much into what is just a name.


Title: Re: Is it possible Satoshi Nakamoto is an acroymn or neumonic?
Post by: Ludi on June 22, 2014, 09:58:25 AM
I just think it's a pseudonym but maybe he picked it because of the meanings behind the name:

http://www.coindesk.com/information/who-is-satoshi-nakamoto/

“Satoshi” means “clear thinking, quick witted; wise”. “Naka” can mean “medium, inside, or relationship”. “Moto” can mean “origin”, or “foundation”. Those things would all apply to the person who founded a movement by designing a clever algorithm. The problem, of course, is that each word has multiple possible meanings.


Title: Re: Is it possible Satoshi Nakamoto is an acroymn or neumonic?
Post by: rext on June 22, 2014, 10:00:22 AM
Wow Brooker, you came up with that? Amazing, how that rhymes lol


Title: Re: Is it possible Satoshi Nakamoto is an acroymn or neumonic?
Post by: franky1 on June 22, 2014, 10:03:08 AM
how about his name being a description of his work?

Signing
A
Transaction
Of
SHA256
Hashed
Information

or his favorite consumer goods

Samsung Toshiba

more and more theories have already been thought out on maybe 100 threads already,


Title: Re: Is it possible Satoshi Nakamoto is an acroymn or neumonic?
Post by: rext on June 22, 2014, 10:03:41 AM
lol franky, that might work too


Title: Re: Is it possible Satoshi Nakamoto is an acroymn or neumonic?
Post by: SOAD on June 22, 2014, 10:11:14 AM
how about his name being a description of his work?

Signing
A
Transaction
Of
SHA256
Hashed
Information



Haha I haven't seen that one before. I'm sure you could come up with many different conspiracies or connections if you spent some time on it.


Title: Re: Is it possible Satoshi Nakamoto is an acroymn or neumonic?
Post by: mikexine on June 22, 2014, 10:13:55 AM
how about his name being a description of his work?

Signing
A
Transaction
Of
SHA256
Hashed
Information

this is the best one I've ever heard  ;D


Title: Re: Is it possible Satoshi Nakamoto is an acroymn or neumonic?
Post by: CrackedLogic on June 22, 2014, 10:14:20 AM
Mind blown, I didn't actually think of that, it could be a possibility.


Title: Re: Is it possible Satoshi Nakamoto is an acroymn or neumonic?
Post by: newIndia on June 22, 2014, 10:18:57 AM
Satoshi Nakamoto = Thinking clearly inside the foundation (in Japanese)


Title: Re: Is it possible Satoshi Nakamoto is an acroymn or neumonic?
Post by: Neg on June 22, 2014, 10:20:04 AM
I just think it's a pseudonym but maybe he picked it because of the meanings behind the name:

http://www.coindesk.com/information/who-is-satoshi-nakamoto/

“Satoshi” means “clear thinking, quick witted; wise”. “Naka” can mean “medium, inside, or relationship”. “Moto” can mean “origin”, or “foundation”. Those things would all apply to the person who founded a movement by designing a clever algorithm. The problem, of course, is that each word has multiple possible meanings.

I tend to go with this. I believe it's a pseudonym but just one that a bit of thought went into to make it a bit more mysterious.


Title: Re: Is it possible Satoshi Nakamoto is an acroymn or neumonic?
Post by: SOAD on June 22, 2014, 10:22:19 AM
I think he just wanted people to build up conspiracies and theories behind the name. I think he's playing with us. I would like to know more details about him though.


Title: Re: Is it possible Satoshi Nakamoto is an acroymn or neumonic?
Post by: S4VV4S on June 22, 2014, 10:32:43 AM
S - System - Software
A - Against
T - Tyranny
O - On
S - Serious
H - Hyper
I - Inflation

N - No
A - Accepting
K - Kleptocracy
A - As
M - Method
O - Of
T - Transacting in
O - Open market operations



Title: Re: Is it possible Satoshi Nakamoto is an acroymn or neumonic?
Post by: zimmah on June 22, 2014, 11:05:46 AM
I think he just picked a common first name and last name from a country he likes. In this case japan, and mixed them.

I doubt there's anything behind the name, as he seems to value his privacy he wouldn't leave clues to trace his identity.


Title: Re: Is it possible Satoshi Nakamoto is an acroymn or neumonic?
Post by: S4VV4S on June 22, 2014, 11:07:17 AM
I think he just picked a common first name and last name from a country he likes. In this case japan, and mixed them.

I doubt there's anything behind the name, as he seems to value his privacy he wouldn't leave clues to trace his identity.

He also seems to value his coins too  ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)


Title: Re: Is it possible Satoshi Nakamoto is an acroymn or neumonic?
Post by: franky1 on June 22, 2014, 12:27:41 PM
though i hate these 100's of satoshi threads, lets play along

Supporting
Armchair
Terrorists
On
Social
Housing
Income

Needing
A
Kickstart
Amount of
Money to
Outwhit
Tax
Offices


Title: Re: Is it possible Satoshi Nakamoto is an acroymn or neumonic?
Post by: Beliathon on June 22, 2014, 12:29:58 PM
Is it possible you celebrity-cult tools will ever shut the hell up ?


Title: Re: Is it possible Satoshi Nakamoto is an acroymn or neumonic?
Post by: S4VV4S on June 22, 2014, 12:31:23 PM
Is it possible you celebrity-cult tools will ever shut the hell up ?

Nope.....    :P


Title: Re: Is it possible Satoshi Nakamoto is an acroymn or neumonic?
Post by: jonsi on June 22, 2014, 12:35:44 PM
I've seen a few posts about early emails on systems like bitcoin (Like hashcash) and am trying to bring up could satoshi possibly be the names of the people who satoshi based bitcoin off of? Obviously he was aware of these people's work, could he of used tricks they used and included a letter of their name in the alias?

 For those of you who don't know what an acronym is

S- Sander (or Szabo)
A- Adam Back
T- Ta-Shma
O- xxxxx (Orange)
S- Szabo (or Sander)
H- xxxxxx (Happy)
I- xxxxxx (Igloo)

 I don't know any more so I can't fill it out, maybe you can?


 Emails that brought up the question:
marc.info/?l=cypherpunks&m=95280154629925&w=4
marc.info/?l=cypherpunks&m=95280154629912&w=2

 There are more on that page, also use your own knowledge.

 Anyway, enjoy your day. Just thought I'd bring something that'll keep you busy for the rest of your life.

EDIT: I DIDN'T MAKE THIS CLEAR, THE PEOPLES WHOS NAME ARE IN THAT ACRONYM ABOVE ARE ALL PEOPLE WHO'VE DONE WORK ON CRYPTOSYSTEMS LIKE BITCOIN.





I though people were getting tired of making up stories. But then again, the interpreters of Nostradamus predictions and of the Mayan Calendar never do, so why should the ones of Satoshi name would?


Title: Re: Is it possible Satoshi Nakamoto is an acroymn or neumonic?
Post by: S4VV4S on June 22, 2014, 12:37:46 PM
So
Again
This
Obvious
Shit
Happens
Internationally

Common guys,
Let's continue this crap......

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Is it possible Satoshi Nakamoto is an acroymn or neumonic?
Post by: jonsi on June 22, 2014, 12:52:51 PM
So
Again
This
Obvious
Shit
Happens
Internationally

Common guys,
Let's continue this crap......

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


And there you have it, the absolute truth  ;D


Title: Re: Is it possible Satoshi Nakamoto is an acroymn or neumonic?
Post by: SOAD on June 22, 2014, 01:02:35 PM
though i hate these 100's of satoshi threads, lets play along

Supporting
Armchair
Terrorists
On
Social
Housing
Income

Needing
A
Kickstart
Amount of
Money to
Outwhit
Tax
Offices


Looks like this is going to go way off topic lol. Might be beszt starting a thread in off topic for this.


Title: Re: Is it possible Satoshi Nakamoto is an acroymn or neumonic?
Post by: franky1 on June 22, 2014, 01:05:03 PM
Sadly
Another
Topic
Observing
Satoshi
History
inconsistencies


Title: Re: Is it possible Satoshi Nakamoto is an acroymn or neumonic?
Post by: S4VV4S on June 22, 2014, 01:06:31 PM
Sadly
Another
Topic
Observing
Satoshi
History
inconsistencies


LOL  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Is it possible Satoshi Nakamoto is an acroymn or neumonic?
Post by: franky1 on June 22, 2014, 01:08:10 PM
though i hate these 100's of satoshi threads, lets play along

Supporting
Armchair
Terrorists
On
Social
Housing
Income

Needing
A
Kickstart
Amount of
Money to
Outwhit
Tax
Offices


Looks like this is going to go way off topic lol. Might be beszt starting a thread in off topic for this.

well after the 1000th thread of mis-information from noobs that think they know everything satoshi related......... they are all off topic...
we dont need more, thus de-railing these repeated and boring topics is done for fun and to make people not turn it into a 20 page discussion


Title: Re: Is it possible Satoshi Nakamoto is an acroymn or neumonic?
Post by: jonsi on June 22, 2014, 01:14:31 PM
though i hate these 100's of satoshi threads, lets play along

Supporting
Armchair
Terrorists
On
Social
Housing
Income

Needing
A
Kickstart
Amount of
Money to
Outwhit
Tax
Offices


Looks like this is going to go way off topic lol. Might be beszt starting a thread in off topic for this.



No, you're wrong. It's exactly on the topic. This is the topic.


Title: Re: Is it possible Satoshi Nakamoto is an acroymn or neumonic?
Post by: SOAD on June 22, 2014, 01:26:22 PM
No, the topic isn't make up silly satoshi acronyms.


Title: Re: Is it possible Satoshi Nakamoto is an acroymn or neumonic?
Post by: cuddaloreappu on June 22, 2014, 01:43:10 PM
You can find more about satoshi here

http://www.reddit.com/r/satoshistories


Title: Re: Is it possible Satoshi Nakamoto is an acroymn or neumonic?
Post by: franky1 on June 22, 2014, 01:46:29 PM
You can find more about satoshi here

http://www.reddit.com/r/satoshistories

its like the bible

written years after the fact, by people not involved in the fact, pretending to be fact.

in short, bed time stories for kids to believe and treat as gospel


Title: Re: Is it possible Satoshi Nakamoto is an acroymn or neumonic?
Post by: c5h3ris1253 on June 22, 2014, 05:25:04 PM
You can find more about satoshi here

http://www.reddit.com/r/satoshistories

its like the bible

written years after the fact, by people not involved in the fact, pretending to be fact.

in short, bed time stories for kids to believe and treat as gospel

 Hmmm This has gotten really off topic, Also that subreddit is literally just a bible for idiots.


Title: Re: Is it possible Satoshi Nakamoto is an acroymn or neumonic?
Post by: rext on June 22, 2014, 05:26:58 PM
Sadly
Another
Topic
Observing
Satoshi
History
inconsistencies

lol this is the best


Title: Re: Is it possible Satoshi Nakamoto is an acroymn or neumonic?
Post by: abercrombie on June 22, 2014, 06:02:15 PM
Smurfs
Aquaman
Tramp
Orges
Sewers
Hickey
Ignoramus


Title: Re: Is it possible Satoshi Nakamoto is an acroymn or neumonic?
Post by: InwardContour on June 22, 2014, 10:45:05 PM
His name is likely something to do with him and/or the company that he (they) represent.

It is unlikely that Satochi Nakamoto is his real name although Satochi or Nakamoto could somehow be linked to his name or be part of his name.

Like BTC addresses his name can probably somehow be linked to his real identity but the name itself is not his real identity. Like linking a BTC address to a real identity a certain amount of analysis must be done and the analysis must be done at the proper time. I think that if one was to monitor the network nodes at the time when Satoshi was mining bitcoin then it would have been possible to determine what his IP address was, this information is likely to not be available now.

I think that it would not be unlikely that Satochi represents one (or more) company(ies) as it was claimed that work was started on the Bitcoin protocol in 2007 and the white paper was not released until late 2008.

I do not think that Satoshi could have ever imagined how big of a sucess that Bitcoin could become (to date) so he likely did not put as much effort into hiding his identity then he otherwise would have.

I would not be surprised if Thermos and other major Bitcoin "players" know who Satoshi really is or at least more about his then what is publicly available.


Title: Re: Is it possible Satoshi Nakamoto is an acroymn or neumonic?
Post by: Gyrsur on June 22, 2014, 10:51:06 PM
Thermos

his name is Theymos! don't have always the picture in your mind where a thermos puts water on the fire. the forum was offline and Theymos mentioned that it could be a fire is in a cable station in front of his home and he is not able to fix the issue because he is also offline because of the fire (but why he was then online in IRC ??) and then someone draw this picture that Theymos would put water on the fire with a thermos. I nearly died on this joke because of too less air in my body.

EDIT: changed Themos to Theymos because I was wrong but saw Theymos new thread about forum advertising and did remember there was also a y in his name. LOL.