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Title: WH Forced To Release Memo Detailing How Obama Justifies Killing American Citizen
Post by: Wilikon on June 23, 2014, 07:37:24 PM


...With drone strikes.



https://i.imgur.com/RgPTm3o.jpg

The United States can use lethal force against a U.S. citizen overseas if that person is part of an enemy organization seeking to attack the U.S., according to a once-secret memo released Monday.

The 2011 killing of one such American — al-Qaeda leader Anwar Al-Awlaki — was justified because it was carried out under applicable laws of war, the memo said.

The Obama administration memo became public under a court order in a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit filed by the American Civil Liberties Union and The New York Times.

“The release of this memo represents an overdue but nonetheless crucial step towards transparency,” said ACLU Deputy Legal Director Jameel Jaffer. “There are few questions more important than the question of when the government has the authority to kill its own citizens.”

In the memo dated July 16, 2010, then-Acting Assistant Attorney General David Barron wrote that “the U.S. citizen in question has gone overseas and become part of the forces of an enemy with which the United States is engaged in an armed conflict.”

In addition, the target of the drone strike “is engaged in continual planning and direction of attacks upon U.S. persons from one of the enemy’s overseas bases of operations,” Barron wrote.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2014/06/23/obama-drone-memo-aclu/11265183/



Title: Re: WH Forced To Release Memo Detailing How Obama Justifies Killing American Citizen
Post by: Chef Ramsay on June 23, 2014, 09:31:30 PM
If they really are a terrorist (meaning they're imminently a threat) then try them in absentia, do things the lawful way and deal with it then.


Title: Re: WH Forced To Release Memo Detailing How Obama Justifies Killing American Citizen
Post by: bitsmichel on June 23, 2014, 10:29:19 PM
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The United States can use lethal force against a U.S. citizen overseas if that person is part of an enemy organization seeking to attack the U.S., according to a once-secret memo released Monday.

I have no information about this specific case, but does Obama have any choice or power? I think many decisions are made by the secret service.


Title: Re: WH Forced To Release Memo Detailing How Obama Justifies Killing American Citizen
Post by: Wilikon on June 23, 2014, 10:40:42 PM
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The United States can use lethal force against a U.S. citizen overseas if that person is part of an enemy organization seeking to attack the U.S., according to a once-secret memo released Monday.

I have no information about this specific case, but does Obama have any choice or power? I think many decisions are made by the secret service.

A.K.A. Obama kill list. So yes he is the supreme chief of the military. He cannot not know, by the power given to him and he uses it.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/us-suspect-possibly-targeted-drone-attack



Title: Re: WH Forced To Release Memo Detailing How Obama Justifies Killing American Citizen
Post by: TECSHARE on June 23, 2014, 11:49:39 PM
A lot of people don't know he has already executed US citizens extrajudicially and openly supports an assassination program under which citizenship grants no protections. One of the people assassinated via drone was a 16 year old boy, the son of the first drone assassination target, on a completely separate occasion after the father was killed. Neither to my knowledge were at any point violent, but were simply guilty of posting the wrong words on the internet.


https://www.aclu.org/national-security/aclu-ccr-lawsuit-american-boy-killed-us-drone-strike
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140511/06390427191/michael-hayden-gleefully-admits-we-kill-people-based-metadata.shtml
http://www.businessinsider.com/pentagon-admits-24000-files-were-hacked-declares-cyberspace-a-theater-of-war-2011-7