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Title: now with coinpal shut down how do you guys transfer your money out of your coins
Post by: clonedone on May 01, 2011, 02:35:36 AM
do you guys use liberty reserve?
i want to use the mt.gox direct deposit with 800 minimum but im scared it wont go through... its 800 after all...


Title: Re: now with coinpal shut down how do you guys transfer your money out of your coins
Post by: njloof on May 01, 2011, 02:59:40 AM
I don't know why it says that; I just did a ~$500 transaction through mtgox yesterday and it went through fine.


Title: Re: now with coinpal shut down how do you guys transfer your money out of your coins
Post by: kgo on May 01, 2011, 03:01:16 AM
There's always plenty of smaller trades going on at #bitcoin-otc


Title: Re: now with coinpal shut down how do you guys transfer your money out of your coins
Post by: clonedone on May 01, 2011, 03:28:47 AM
I don't know why it says that; I just did a ~$500 transaction through mtgox yesterday and it went through fine.


are you in the US? how long did that transaction take?


Title: Re: now with coinpal shut down how do you guys transfer your money out of your coins
Post by: Littleshop on May 01, 2011, 03:55:25 AM
Sorry, I feel like I am now flying blind and deaf.

MTGOX is down due to DOS attack and coincard is closed due to paypal.  I used to use coincard exclusively. 



Title: Re: now with coinpal shut down how do you guys transfer your money out of your coins
Post by: clonedone on May 01, 2011, 04:01:20 AM
Sorry, I feel like I am now flying blind and deaf.

MTGOX is down due to DOS attack and coincard is closed due to paypal.  I used to use coincard exclusively. 



yes its terrifying i dunno what to do now.


Title: Re: now with coinpal shut down how do you guys transfer your money out of your coins
Post by: MoonShadow on May 01, 2011, 04:48:51 AM
I wouldn't know how to cash out of bitcoins, I've never done it.  However, if anyone here lives in Kentucky, I'd be willing to pay you cash in person, if you are not too far.


Title: Re: now with coinpal shut down how do you guys transfer your money out of your coins
Post by: TiagoTiago on May 01, 2011, 04:54:34 AM
I'm more worried about people not being able to buy 'coins than people not being able to sell them


Title: Re: now with coinpal shut down how do you guys transfer your money out of your coins
Post by: mjsbuddha on May 01, 2011, 04:57:57 AM
this couldn't happen at a worse time too with the article in forbes coming out in a little over a week. all those interested people wont have an easy way to buy coins and if mt. gox. Isn't up they wont know what they are worth.


Title: Re: now with coinpal shut down how do you guys transfer your money out of your coins
Post by: njloof on May 01, 2011, 05:07:03 AM
No question actually cashing out via mtgox is a pain: it's mtgox to liberty reserve, liberty reserve to some LR buyer, then to actual cash.

But doable and fast (when mtgox is up :). Getting bitcoins into mtgox takes ~1 hour, since they have to wait for confirmation from the network. Selling at mtgox for LR is about a minute. LR buyers are nearly instantaneous.


Title: Re: now with coinpal shut down how do you guys transfer your money out of your coins
Post by: slurch on May 01, 2011, 05:28:47 AM
I don't know why it says that; I just did a ~$500 transaction through mtgox yesterday and it went through fine.


I think the $800 minimum is an ACH option to a US bank account? No idea, though. I emailed a long time ago and never got an answer.


Title: Re: now with coinpal shut down how do you guys transfer your money out of your coins
Post by: zoro on May 01, 2011, 05:39:26 AM
Don't worry guys, the outcome of all these funny attacks by some funny guys is to give us a break! i personally thank them for that  ;D
the transfer is working great, i leave in Europe and the direct deposit won't take longer than 5 working days.
Mtgox provides great services  ;)


Title: Re: now with coinpal shut down how do you guys transfer your money out of your coins
Post by: djex on May 01, 2011, 06:43:31 AM
I'm not sure what I'm going to do now with CoinCard gone. There are not many options or none at all out there for Canadians to convert BTC to USD or to CND. I used CoinCard to deposit to my paypal and it worked great. Hope there will be an alternative soon.


Title: Re: now with coinpal shut down how do you guys transfer your money out of your coins
Post by: TurdHurdur on May 01, 2011, 07:11:48 AM
As a Canadian using PayPal http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=6223.0 worked for me.


Title: Re: now with coinpal shut down how do you guys transfer your money out of your coins
Post by: ribuck on May 01, 2011, 12:45:31 PM
No question actually cashing out via mtgox is a pain: it's mtgox to liberty reserve, liberty reserve to some LR buyer, then to actual cash.
You may find it easiest to cash out of MtGox by selling your MtGox USD for PayPal or something else at #bitcoin-otc (http://bitcoin-otc.com/vieworderbook.php?sortby=price&sortorder=ASC&type=&nick=&thing=&otherthing=&eitherthing=MTGUSD&notes=).


Title: Re: now with coinpal shut down how do you guys transfer your money out of your coins
Post by: TurboK on May 01, 2011, 02:27:13 PM
Don't worry guys, the outcome of all these funny attacks by some funny guys is to give us a break! i personally thank them for that  ;D
the transfer is working great, i leave in Europe and the direct deposit won't take longer than 5 working days.
Mtgox provides great services  ;)
So, direct deposit to bank account (to EUR) at mtgox works right? Thank for confirming - I'll try it out soon.


Title: Re: now with coinpal shut down how do you guys transfer your money out of your coins
Post by: Mahkul on May 01, 2011, 02:49:29 PM
No question actually cashing out via mtgox is a pain: it's mtgox to liberty reserve, liberty reserve to some LR buyer, then to actual cash.
You may find it easiest to cash out of MtGox by selling your MtGox USD for PayPal or something else at #bitcoin-otc (http://bitcoin-otc.com/vieworderbook.php?sortby=price&sortorder=ASC&type=&nick=&thing=&otherthing=&eitherthing=MTGUSD&notes=).

Exaclty, I have never transfered money in or out to mtgox. I either bought mtgox USD for Paypal, or sold it for Paypal. It works great.

EDIT: Anyone knows how much it is to transfer money from USA to Europe? We are considering adding USD to BitMarket.eu (https://bitmarket.eu). Would that make any sense for people living in the US?


Title: Re: now with coinpal shut down how do you guys transfer your money out of your coins
Post by: BitcoinBonus on May 02, 2011, 11:49:25 AM
I'd suggest people use Venmo (https://venmo.com/i/darrell-duane.cFL.pdq).
This payment system has no transaction fees for the consumer, it is funded when people use it with merchants.  I was able to transfer funds from Venmo to my checking account in two days.
Bitcoin Bonus provides 50 cents USD worth of Bitcoin when you sign up for it via the link above and fully complete your Venmo profile, and then Claim (https://bitcoinbonus.com/claim) your Venmo Bonus (https://bitcoinbonus.com/venmo) by entering in your Venmo username.   (You'll also get a dollar from Venmo).

You also can go social with Venmo and optionally let other people know that you're buying bitcoin, helping promote it, but you can keep your transactions private as well.  Here are some more details from the Venmo website:

Venmo: The story.
Venmo was built by two friends that found it incredibly frustrating to pay each other and their friends back. I'll get you, you get me back hardly ever works out, and eventually the missing cash starts to add up. Venmo was built to solve this problem by allowing anyone with a phone to settle mini debts between friends in person, securely and instantly. But that's not all. Venmo is designed to be social and fun, just like the times you have when you're spending money with your friends. You can share your payments, keep track of the places you're spending money, and leave personal notes with every payment you make. We think of Venmo as the best payment service for friends.
What is Venmo?
Venmo is an iPhone, Android and Blackberry App that lots of people use to pay back their friends. It's completely FREE (no transaction fees) to use, and it makes splitting the bill at a restaurant between a group of friends very easy, and kind of fun. There are plenty of other ways to use Venmo, for example paying your roommates back for living expenses like rent, utilities and groceries, or getting your co-workers back for lunch runs or coffee runs. It's even useful to send friends birthday cash, or other cash gifts instead of writing checks. Whenever a friend owes you money, just use Venmo.
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Tens of thousands of people in America use Venmo, and we've processed millions of dollars in transaction volume between friends. And, we're still in Private Beta. That's awesome, right?
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It comes from a credit card or a debit card that you link to your phone number. Once you signup, we walk you through the whole process, and it only takes a couple minutes.
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That's easy. Just setup Direct Deposit when you signup, and we automatically transfer all the money you receive on Venmo into your bank account every two weeks. You can always cash out manually if you'd like, but rolling deposits make it really convenient for you to get your money. To setup Direct Deposit, you need to know your bank's routing number and account number (you can find it on a check from your bank or in your online banking portal), that's all! We designed it this way so you don't have to worry about maintaining an extra balance somewhere.
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We've partnered up with all the major banks in the country.
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For starters, we're completely free to use and there are no transaction fees when you make a payment.

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If it's free to use, how does Venmo make money?
While Venmo does not work with any service providers, or businesses right now, it has plans to work with them in the future. There will be standard transaction fees charged to any business that uses Venmo. This will allow Venmo to remain free for friends to use with each other.
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I have more questions
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Title: Re: now with coinpal shut down how do you guys transfer your money out of your coins
Post by: Convery on May 02, 2011, 03:18:05 PM
Checked that venmo, can't sign up =(

http://gyazo.com/acc90384058e75e3ff7b107cd42f120e.png


Title: Re: now with coinpal shut down how do you guys transfer your money out of your coins
Post by: PiGames on May 03, 2011, 04:01:23 PM
Hopefully this Venmo thing gets off the ground.
Interface is pretty simple to navigate and no fees is always an awesome selling point.

-Signed up with your referral link Darrell  ;D


Title: Re: now with coinpal shut down how do you guys transfer your money out of your coins
Post by: Jaime Frontero on May 03, 2011, 05:24:38 PM
I'd suggest people use Venmo (https://venmo.com/i/darrell-duane.cFL.pdq).


perhaps i'm just thick, but after cruising the Venmo website i see no way to put in Bitcoin and get out USD.

could you point me to where that is covered on the Venmo site?


Title: Re: now with coinpal shut down how do you guys transfer your money out of your coins
Post by: clonedone on May 03, 2011, 06:58:16 PM
I'd suggest people use Venmo (https://venmo.com/i/darrell-duane.cFL.pdq).


perhaps i'm just thick, but after cruising the Venmo website i see no way to put in Bitcoin and get out USD.

could you point me to where that is covered on the Venmo site?

same i dun see how it is connected to bitcoins?


Title: Re: now with coinpal shut down how do you guys transfer your money out of your coins
Post by: JJG on May 03, 2011, 07:14:19 PM
I'd suggest people use Venmo (https://venmo.com/i/darrell-duane.cFL.pdq).


perhaps i'm just thick, but after cruising the Venmo website i see no way to put in Bitcoin and get out USD.

could you point me to where that is covered on the Venmo site?

Venmo appears to be in pipe-dream, spam-the-forums stage. To be honest, I'm still not entirely sure what it is they do, but it definitely doesn't involve trading BTC for USD at the moment.


Title: Re: now with coinpal shut down how do you guys transfer your money out of your coins
Post by: slurch on May 03, 2011, 07:59:18 PM
I'd suggest people use Venmo (https://venmo.com/i/darrell-duane.cFL.pdq).


perhaps i'm just thick, but after cruising the Venmo website i see no way to put in Bitcoin and get out USD.

could you point me to where that is covered on the Venmo site?

Venmo appears to be in pipe-dream, spam-the-forums stage. To be honest, I'm still not entirely sure what it is they do, but it definitely doesn't involve trading BTC for USD at the moment.

It's a service to move money from Person A to Person B. It seems like it would work in theory...but there's no way to put in BTC and get out USD, or vice versa. Like anything, using this would involve a degree of trust.


Title: Re: now with coinpal shut down how do you guys transfer your money out of your coins
Post by: BitcoinBonus on May 04, 2011, 11:59:15 AM
Venmo itself doesn't sell bitcoin, but you can suggest to your friendly neighborhood exchangers to sell you bitcoin with it.

Morpheus? Mndrix?


Title: Re: now with coinpal shut down how do you guys transfer your money out of your coins
Post by: crosslider on May 04, 2011, 01:17:59 PM
I use https://www.bitcoinmarket.com/
This website allows the payment to paypal.


Title: Re: now with coinpal shut down how do you guys transfer your money out of your coins
Post by: chungenhung on May 04, 2011, 03:31:03 PM
I wouldn't know how to cash out of bitcoins, I've never done it.  However, if anyone here lives in Kentucky, I'd be willing to pay you cash in person, if you are not too far.
I am in KY. PM me.


Title: Re: now with coinpal shut down how do you guys transfer your money out of your coins
Post by: mitak64 on May 04, 2011, 04:05:27 PM
Bitcoinmarket.com provides great service, it's a good alternative to Coinpal.
 Just beware, if you are a seller, your bitcoins get "frozen" while the deal goes through.
 Now you are in the buyers hands and it's up to them to complete (send payment) the transaction.
 There is nothing that can make them keep their promise.
 Problem is your money (bitcoins), stay frozen until they pay. So you can miss a good opportunity to sell them to someone else. You know how sensitive bitcoin market is.
 
I am currently in this situation. I got 10 bitcoins "frozen" since yesterday, cause my buyer is not paying still.
Here's some extract of our communication :



Me:   Are you going to pay for the bitcoins or what ?
         Let me know if you don't want them.


Him: Hi,
        I'm new to the market and not sure how I can trust it.

So I'm stuck. I've sent an email to the admin of bitcoinmarket.com, I hope he takes some action on this.


Title: Re: now with coinpal shut down how do you guys transfer your money out of your coins
Post by: Blackasaurus on May 05, 2011, 09:23:13 AM
Bitcoinmarket.com provides great service, it's a good alternative to Coinpal.
 Just beware, if you are a seller, your bitcoins get "frozen" while the deal goes through.
 Now you are in the buyers hands and it's up to them to complete (send payment) the transaction.
 There is nothing that can make them keep their promise.
 Problem is your money (bitcoins), stay frozen until they pay. So you can miss a good opportunity to sell them to someone else. You know how sensitive bitcoin market is.


It seems Bitcoinmarket.com's prices are a bit lower than the usual going rate, which kinda sucks for those who are selling.

I want coinpal back :[