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Title: Any runescapers here?
Post by: zhinkk on July 14, 2014, 09:29:13 PM
I used to play runescape a lot around 2005-2010. It was pretty much my life. My parents would never let me buy membership, so I would always put $10 in a envelope and mail Jagex headquarters at night and they would give me membership. Funny story. Anyways, wouldn't it be great if Jagex accepted bitcoin? It seems like it would be a great payment option for them. Simply send bitcoins to an address, and get membership status on your account. They could use bitpay or whatever so they don't have to hold BTC.

Is there anyway I can get this going? Anyway to get a petition or something (I want to avoid those petition.org things because they seem very ineffective). Anyway of talking directly to Jagex's payment department?


Title: Re: Any runescapers here?
Post by: tmbp on July 14, 2014, 09:31:37 PM
I see kids slaving away at faucets to pay for their membership  :D


Title: Re: Any runescapers here?
Post by: Baitty on July 14, 2014, 09:34:12 PM
You could try emailing them and see what they say or using the support. I can't imagine you would get a reply but you can certainly try.


Title: Re: Any runescapers here?
Post by: Yakamoto on July 14, 2014, 09:40:18 PM
I see kids slaving away at faucets to pay for their membership  :D
This would actually be hilarious and it probably would happen. Knowing how people are, sometimes it's priceless watching them.

Now that being said, Jagex would be making MASSIVE amounts of cash off of that, especially with the scenario you've presented. Some people don't even consider bitcoin as "real money" so some wouldn't even have trouble paying Jagex whatever amount it would be.

Since I'm a RuneScape player, every here and there, and I have signature campaigns to back me up, I could possibly buy memberships, if I felt so inclined as to do that.

I probably won't get a membership until I max some of my F2P skills, then I'll consider it.

I've even met a person who had joined that day and had purchased a membership - he had no idea what he was doing.


Title: Re: Any runescapers here?
Post by: zhinkk on July 14, 2014, 09:43:39 PM
I see kids slaving away at faucets to pay for their membership  :D

Yeah, that's stupid lol. But people are desperate. I know I was (but I had better ways of doing it :P)


I see kids slaving away at faucets to pay for their membership  :D
This would actually be hilarious and it probably would happen. Knowing how people are, sometimes it's priceless watching them.

Now that being said, Jagex would be making MASSIVE amounts of cash off of that, especially with the scenario you've presented. Some people don't even consider bitcoin as "real money" so some wouldn't even have trouble paying Jagex whatever amount it would be.

Since I'm a RuneScape player, every here and there, and I have signature campaigns to back me up, I could possibly buy memberships, if I felt so inclined as to do that.

I probably won't get a membership until I max some of my F2P skills, then I'll consider it.

I've even met a person who had joined that day and had purchased a membership - he had no idea what he was doing.

I agree with this. It's such a good opportunity for them and it makes it easy for us. And yeah, I've met those kinds of people. I guess it does help a little but there's really no reason for it. I would wait until you've cleared most F2P skills and quests and areas before moving onto membership stuff.


Title: Re: Any runescapers here?
Post by: hollowframe on July 14, 2014, 09:47:41 PM
I see kids slaving away at faucets to pay for their membership  :D
I would find this very unlikely, as kids are very resourceful today and could probably acquire bitcoin if they were to pay for a service like this.


Title: Re: Any runescapers here?
Post by: Baitty on July 14, 2014, 09:48:51 PM
I see kids slaving away at faucets to pay for their membership  :D
I would find this very unlikely, as kids are very resourceful today and could probably acquire bitcoin if they were to pay for a service like this.

Well put it this way their wouldn't be young anymore or if they waited for the faucet to pay for membership that would take years and years to get the amount to equal the membership fee.


Title: Re: Any runescapers here?
Post by: Yakamoto on July 14, 2014, 09:58:07 PM
I see kids slaving away at faucets to pay for their membership  :D
I would find this very unlikely, as kids are very resourceful today and could probably acquire bitcoin if they were to pay for a service like this.
If by resourceful you mean they can do stuff with just a credit card, yeah you're pretty much right.

If I had to choose between BTC or USD/CAN, I'd choose BTC. It has the potential to increase in value, UNLIKE the USD, and so I could get more bang for my buck using BTC. This would also benefit Jagex, as it could increase their balance sheets.

So I think Jagex accepting BTC would be a great way to have them earn some BTC.

Now something interesting that just passed through my mind was the thought that since Denmark had declared Bitcoin as "not real money" and it won't be taxed, is that if companies that started accepting BTC set up an office in Denmark that death with the BTC, it would cause less headache and they would only have to report it as normal income (post-exchange) in the US, making taxes easier.

I probably missed dozens of laws preventing this, but it's just a hypothetical question.


Title: Re: Any runescapers here?
Post by: zhinkk on July 15, 2014, 04:29:21 AM
I see kids slaving away at faucets to pay for their membership  :D
I would find this very unlikely, as kids are very resourceful today and could probably acquire bitcoin if they were to pay for a service like this.
If I had to choose between BTC or USD/CAN, I'd choose BTC. It has the potential to increase in value, UNLIKE the USD, and so I could get more bang for my buck using BTC. This would also benefit Jagex, as it could increase their balance sheets.

Well I wouldn't expect Jagex to keep the BTC. I mean, they can keep some if they want (doesn't overstock do this?) but convert it to USD immediately using bitpay or something. It would just be a lot more convenient for users.


Title: Re: Any runescapers here?
Post by: iluvpie60 on July 15, 2014, 01:15:56 PM
I used to play runescape a lot around 2005-2010. It was pretty much my life. My parents would never let me buy membership, so I would always put $10 in a envelope and mail Jagex headquarters at night and they would give me membership. Funny story. Anyways, wouldn't it be great if Jagex accepted bitcoin? It seems like it would be a great payment option for them. Simply send bitcoins to an address, and get membership status on your account. They could use bitpay or whatever so they don't have to hold BTC.

Is there anyway I can get this going? Anyway to get a petition or something (I want to avoid those petition.org things because they seem very ineffective). Anyway of talking directly to Jagex's payment department?

07 Scape or GTFO. They ruined Runescape with their stupid Evolution of Combat(in which you still can't move by using WASD or arrow keys)....

The only reason I didn't go back to it was they screwed me over. I have like 12 skills to 99 and most are in high 80s. They really lost customers doing that stupid evolution of combat, only to re-release 07scape(to make you grind all over again in the game version most people want to play).

I suggest no one give Jagex anything, but that is imo ofc.


Title: Re: Any runescapers here?
Post by: cryptopaths on July 15, 2014, 07:33:08 PM
I used to play runescape a lot around 2005-2010. It was pretty much my life. My parents would never let me buy membership, so I would always put $10 in a envelope and mail Jagex headquarters at night and they would give me membership. Funny story. Anyways, wouldn't it be great if Jagex accepted bitcoin? It seems like it would be a great payment option for them. Simply send bitcoins to an address, and get membership status on your account. They could use bitpay or whatever so they don't have to hold BTC.

Is there anyway I can get this going? Anyway to get a petition or something (I want to avoid those petition.org things because they seem very ineffective). Anyway of talking directly to Jagex's payment department?

07 Scape or GTFO. They ruined Runescape with their stupid Evolution of Combat(in which you still can't move by using WASD or arrow keys)....

The only reason I didn't go back to it was they screwed me over. I have like 12 skills to 99 and most are in high 80s. They really lost customers doing that stupid evolution of combat, only to re-release 07scape(to make you grind all over again in the game version most people want to play).

I suggest no one give Jagex anything, but that is imo ofc.

Legacy combat mode was just realeased yesterday. They basically put the old combat system back in place you can try it out if you want.


Title: Re: Any runescapers here?
Post by: Yakamoto on July 15, 2014, 07:36:59 PM
I used to play runescape a lot around 2005-2010. It was pretty much my life. My parents would never let me buy membership, so I would always put $10 in a envelope and mail Jagex headquarters at night and they would give me membership. Funny story. Anyways, wouldn't it be great if Jagex accepted bitcoin? It seems like it would be a great payment option for them. Simply send bitcoins to an address, and get membership status on your account. They could use bitpay or whatever so they don't have to hold BTC.

Is there anyway I can get this going? Anyway to get a petition or something (I want to avoid those petition.org things because they seem very ineffective). Anyway of talking directly to Jagex's payment department?

07 Scape or GTFO. They ruined Runescape with their stupid Evolution of Combat(in which you still can't move by using WASD or arrow keys)....

The only reason I didn't go back to it was they screwed me over. I have like 12 skills to 99 and most are in high 80s. They really lost customers doing that stupid evolution of combat, only to re-release 07scape(to make you grind all over again in the game version most people want to play).

I suggest no one give Jagex anything, but that is imo ofc.

Legacy combat mode was just realeased yesterday. They basically put the old combat system back in place you can try it out if you want.
Did that put that into 07 or RS3?

I play RS3 only because it was the first RS I saw and decided to play, I'd go and play 07, since a lot of people say it's pretty good, but then I'd pretty much have to re-level as well as buy a membership. Plainest reasons why I don't play 07.

I've heard good things about the old combat system, so can anyone elaborate on it? What new features did they add?

And since we're kind of getting off topic, here's a little question to spark some other ideas, How would you feel about game publishers accepting bitcoin?


Title: Re: Any runescapers here?
Post by: iluvpie60 on July 15, 2014, 07:46:53 PM
I used to play runescape a lot around 2005-2010. It was pretty much my life. My parents would never let me buy membership, so I would always put $10 in a envelope and mail Jagex headquarters at night and they would give me membership. Funny story. Anyways, wouldn't it be great if Jagex accepted bitcoin? It seems like it would be a great payment option for them. Simply send bitcoins to an address, and get membership status on your account. They could use bitpay or whatever so they don't have to hold BTC.

Is there anyway I can get this going? Anyway to get a petition or something (I want to avoid those petition.org things because they seem very ineffective). Anyway of talking directly to Jagex's payment department?

07 Scape or GTFO. They ruined Runescape with their stupid Evolution of Combat(in which you still can't move by using WASD or arrow keys)....

The only reason I didn't go back to it was they screwed me over. I have like 12 skills to 99 and most are in high 80s. They really lost customers doing that stupid evolution of combat, only to re-release 07scape(to make you grind all over again in the game version most people want to play).

I suggest no one give Jagex anything, but that is imo ofc.

Legacy combat mode was just realeased yesterday. They basically put the old combat system back in place you can try it out if you want.


Whoaaa are you actually saying they put in the legacy combat system back into RS3??? That is amazing if that is what you are saying.... PLEASE BE TRUE!!! lol


Title: Re: Any runescapers here?
Post by: zhinkk on July 15, 2014, 07:49:09 PM
How does legacy combat and RS3 combat work together? They seem like completely different combat systems to me.


Title: Re: Any runescapers here?
Post by: cryptopaths on July 15, 2014, 07:49:16 PM
I used to play runescape a lot around 2005-2010. It was pretty much my life. My parents would never let me buy membership, so I would always put $10 in a envelope and mail Jagex headquarters at night and they would give me membership. Funny story. Anyways, wouldn't it be great if Jagex accepted bitcoin? It seems like it would be a great payment option for them. Simply send bitcoins to an address, and get membership status on your account. They could use bitpay or whatever so they don't have to hold BTC.

Is there anyway I can get this going? Anyway to get a petition or something (I want to avoid those petition.org things because they seem very ineffective). Anyway of talking directly to Jagex's payment department?

07 Scape or GTFO. They ruined Runescape with their stupid Evolution of Combat(in which you still can't move by using WASD or arrow keys)....

The only reason I didn't go back to it was they screwed me over. I have like 12 skills to 99 and most are in high 80s. They really lost customers doing that stupid evolution of combat, only to re-release 07scape(to make you grind all over again in the game version most people want to play).

I suggest no one give Jagex anything, but that is imo ofc.

Legacy combat mode was just realeased yesterday. They basically put the old combat system back in place you can try it out if you want.
Did that put that into 07 or RS3?

I play RS3 only because it was the first RS I saw and decided to play, I'd go and play 07, since a lot of people say it's pretty good, but then I'd pretty much have to re-level as well as buy a membership. Plainest reasons why I don't play 07.

I've heard good things about the old combat system, so can anyone elaborate on it? What new features did they add?

And since we're kind of getting off topic, here's a little question to spark some other ideas, How would you feel about game publishers accepting bitcoin?

They put the Legacy combat system into RS3 yesterday just go in the settings and check the legacy combat box. They made the combat mode/interface what it was before the EOC combat expansion and they did some other things to and changed some things to what they were like before EOC.

I used to play runescape a lot around 2005-2010. It was pretty much my life. My parents would never let me buy membership, so I would always put $10 in a envelope and mail Jagex headquarters at night and they would give me membership. Funny story. Anyways, wouldn't it be great if Jagex accepted bitcoin? It seems like it would be a great payment option for them. Simply send bitcoins to an address, and get membership status on your account. They could use bitpay or whatever so they don't have to hold BTC.

Is there anyway I can get this going? Anyway to get a petition or something (I want to avoid those petition.org things because they seem very ineffective). Anyway of talking directly to Jagex's payment department?

07 Scape or GTFO. They ruined Runescape with their stupid Evolution of Combat(in which you still can't move by using WASD or arrow keys)....

The only reason I didn't go back to it was they screwed me over. I have like 12 skills to 99 and most are in high 80s. They really lost customers doing that stupid evolution of combat, only to re-release 07scape(to make you grind all over again in the game version most people want to play).

I suggest no one give Jagex anything, but that is imo ofc.

Legacy combat mode was just realeased yesterday. They basically put the old combat system back in place you can try it out if you want.


Whoaaa are you actually saying they put in the legacy combat system back into RS3??? That is amazing if that is what you are saying.... PLEASE BE TRUE!!! lol

Yes that's what they did yesterday they added Legacy combat as an option in RS3 just check the box.

How does legacy combat and RS3 combat work together? They seem like completely different combat systems to me.


I just pked so far in Legacy so I'm not sure how they work together. But there are some Legacy only Pk worlds. In general I think you can choose which mode you wana use EOC/Legacy while playing in normal worlds I'm assuming the balance but not sure.


Title: Re: Any runescapers here?
Post by: Experenza on July 15, 2014, 08:18:42 PM
Runescape used to be awesome until they added trade limits. Balanced trade takes all the fun out of merchanting. When Jagex removed Pking, it was officially over for me. I heard they added it again, but it's not the same. Also the new combat system blows.


Title: Re: Any runescapers here?
Post by: farlack on July 15, 2014, 08:22:05 PM
Runescape used to be awesome until they added trade limits. Balanced trade takes all the fun out of merchanting.

They removed trade limits.


Title: Re: Any runescapers here?
Post by: allthingsluxury on July 15, 2014, 08:36:07 PM
I don't understand why a merchant / company would not accept bitcoin, at least through bitpay. It's a no brainer.


Title: Re: Any runescapers here?
Post by: cryptopaths on July 15, 2014, 08:45:33 PM
I don't understand why a merchant / company would not accept bitcoin, at least through bitpay. It's a no brainer.

Well one thing is it doesn't allow them recurring fees. For example with things like Netflix many people sign up for the first "free" month but they forget they have their credit card attached to there account. Resulting in them being charged every month when they might not even know/maybe stopped using netflix. This allows Netflix to make a lot more money, something like this wouldn't be possible with Bitcoin because you can't charge an address like that.


Title: Re: Any runescapers here?
Post by: Yakamoto on July 15, 2014, 11:08:06 PM
Runescape used to be awesome until they added trade limits. Balanced trade takes all the fun out of merchanting.

They removed trade limits.
When they'd do this??? Has it really changed that much!?

I don't understand why a merchant / company would not accept bitcoin, at least through bitpay. It's a no brainer.

Well one thing is it doesn't allow them recurring fees. For example with things like Netflix many people sign up for the first "free" month but they forget they have their credit card attached to there account. Resulting in them being charged every month when they might not even know/maybe stopped using netflix. This allows Netflix to make a lot more money, something like this wouldn't be possible with Bitcoin because you can't charge an address like that.
I know that some companies that host wallets allow for recurring payments, I believe coinbase is an example, but this is true about how it is harder for such things to happen.

However, I have a feeling that some company in the near future will bring in a function like this. However, it will be more noticeable watching BTC being sucked away if a person is not using it very often, or doesn't have a large volume of transactions during the recurring time period, normally about a month.

That is an ingenious way Netflix set it up, however. Makes me want to set something up that's along the same lines.


Title: Re: Any runescapers here?
Post by: farlack on July 15, 2014, 11:10:30 PM
Runescape used to be awesome until they added trade limits. Balanced trade takes all the fun out of merchanting.

They removed trade limits.
When they'd do this??? Has it really changed that much!?



Not sure, don't play anymore. I think they brought back the wilderness too.


Title: Re: Any runescapers here?
Post by: zhinkk on July 16, 2014, 03:11:47 AM
Runescape used to be awesome until they added trade limits. Balanced trade takes all the fun out of merchanting.

They removed trade limits.
When they'd do this??? Has it really changed that much!?



Not sure, don't play anymore. I think they brought back the wilderness too.

You guys are really out of the loop. This stuff has been brought back for many many years. Anyways, let's stick to the original topic of jagex accepting bitcoin? Any users have any idea how we can try to push this forward to Jagex? Would a thread on the original runescape forums help?


Title: Re: Any runescapers here?
Post by: Swordsoffreedom on July 16, 2014, 05:02:44 AM
I used to play runescape a lot around 2005-2010. It was pretty much my life. My parents would never let me buy membership, so I would always put $10 in a envelope and mail Jagex headquarters at night and they would give me membership. Funny story. Anyways, wouldn't it be great if Jagex accepted bitcoin? It seems like it would be a great payment option for them. Simply send bitcoins to an address, and get membership status on your account. They could use bitpay or whatever so they don't have to hold BTC.

Is there anyway I can get this going? Anyway to get a petition or something (I want to avoid those petition.org things because they seem very ineffective). Anyway of talking directly to Jagex's payment department?

I used to play runescape at that time period a long time ago
Recalls I gave my account to a kid then took it back a year later after they quit lol they still exist but I haven't logged in for years
Good memories though and having Jagex take bitcoin as a kid would have been so much more convenient since it was hard to pay for membership without a Visa.

Maybe I should play perhaps they added a free quest and brought the wildy back lol and trade limits are gone wow way out of the loop people still want chickens  and cow hides :)


Title: Re: Any runescapers here?
Post by: weather b0y4 on July 16, 2014, 05:47:04 AM
Old School Merchant here, merchanted from 50k to 100b lol.

It is was what got me interested in bitcoin -- if rsgp can facilitate the runescape economy so well, i figured virtual currencies would be very important in the future. And i figured that out well before 2009, i just wish it did not take me 2 years after 2009 to hear about bitcoin lol. It seems my success trading in runescape translates to doing very well with bitcoin, i feel like the crypto market is closer to mmorpg markets than it is to the stock market, so it is an advantage over most people.  ::) ::)


Title: Re: Any runescapers here?
Post by: btcton on July 16, 2014, 07:02:24 AM
Old School Merchant here, merchanted from 50k to 100b lol.

It is was what got me interested in bitcoin -- if rsgp can facilitate the runescape economy so well, i figured virtual currencies would be very important in the future. And i figured that out well before 2009, i just wish it did not take me 2 years after 2009 to hear about bitcoin lol. It seems my success trading in runescape translates to doing very well with bitcoin, i feel like the crypto market is closer to mmorpg markets than it is to the stock market, so it is an advantage over most people.  ::) ::)
You mean, digital currencies?

Anyway, I don't see what's so bad about the EoC, I personally don't have a problem with most of the changes. What I don't like, however, is that there's too much levelling involved in this game.


Title: Re: Any runescapers here?
Post by: rhino34567 on July 16, 2014, 08:47:04 AM
I played a bit more after the wildy/free trade return. But then I stopped playing after a while.


Title: Re: Any runescapers here?
Post by: cryptopaths on July 16, 2014, 09:26:39 AM
Glad to see theres a lot of fellow scapers on here.


Title: Re: Any runescapers here?
Post by: jpent on July 16, 2014, 11:03:01 AM
I played runescape around the same time as OP. I have seen posts on the runescape forum a few times about this and it seems most players don't understand. Often, they end up with the misunderstanding that they want to remove all payment options and replace it with bitcoin. Many people seem to say that bitcoin could make Jagex bankrupt or that it's used for drugs or illegal. There doesn't seem to be a big demand for it.

Personally I haven't played  this in years, partly because of the way they were changing it and partly because it was taking up too much time. I still have around 30M gold though while I could potentially sell for BTC (although RWT gold isn't work that much these days).


Title: Re: Any runescapers here?
Post by: lucullus on July 16, 2014, 01:09:22 PM
I see kids slaving away at faucets to pay for their membership  :D

Sad but true


Title: Re: Any runescapers here?
Post by: zhinkk on July 16, 2014, 01:37:13 PM
I played runescape around the same time as OP. I have seen posts on the runescape forum a few times about this and it seems most players don't understand. Often, they end up with the misunderstanding that they want to remove all payment options and replace it with bitcoin. Many people seem to say that bitcoin could make Jagex bankrupt or that it's used for drugs or illegal. There doesn't seem to be a big demand for it.

Personally I haven't played  this in years, partly because of the way they were changing it and partly because it was taking up too much time. I still have around 30M gold though while I could potentially sell for BTC (although RWT gold isn't work that much these days).

I guess that's the problem with having a primarily 12 year old userbase. It's hard to rally support for bitcoin because most people just simply don't understand it. Maybe in the future as a large part of their userbase matures and bitcoin becomes more mainstream they will adopt it. Good post man.


Title: Re: Any runescapers here?
Post by: Skele on July 16, 2014, 04:19:23 PM
You could try emailing them and see what they say or using the support. I can't imagine you would get a reply but you can certainly try.

"There isn't worse battle than the one you don't do" who knows if at least you make them feel a little curious about it...


Title: Re: Any runescapers here?
Post by: nkocevar on July 16, 2014, 04:36:16 PM
I used to play runescape a lot around 2005-2010. It was pretty much my life. My parents would never let me buy membership, so I would always put $10 in a envelope and mail Jagex headquarters at night and they would give me membership. Funny story. Anyways, wouldn't it be great if Jagex accepted bitcoin? It seems like it would be a great payment option for them. Simply send bitcoins to an address, and get membership status on your account. They could use bitpay or whatever so they don't have to hold BTC.

Is there anyway I can get this going? Anyway to get a petition or something (I want to avoid those petition.org things because they seem very ineffective). Anyway of talking directly to Jagex's payment department?

Yea as said earlier, you could get a few people together and have them email the company and then they could possibly start accepting bitcoin. Possibly start a petition like you said.


Title: Re: Any runescapers here?
Post by: cryptopaths on July 16, 2014, 05:23:57 PM
I don't think a lot of subcription services would like the idea of bitcoin it would mess up there recurring fees structure.


Title: Re: Any runescapers here?
Post by: farlack on July 16, 2014, 05:25:27 PM
I don't think a lot of subcription services would like the idea of bitcoin it would mess up there recurring fees structure.

This is why you sell a 6-12 month subscription, not monthly.


Title: Re: Any runescapers here?
Post by: zhinkk on July 16, 2014, 08:06:19 PM
I don't think a lot of subcription services would like the idea of bitcoin it would mess up there recurring fees structure.

Maybe they could link directly to your coinbase account or something for recurring fees? Does anyone know if coinbase has made this sort of deal with any company yet?