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Other => Beginners & Help => Topic started by: _majc on July 18, 2014, 03:15:19 PM



Title: The Real Magic of Bitcoin
Post by: _majc on July 18, 2014, 03:15:19 PM
I wrote a beginner's guide to Bitcoin. It goes right for the bit that really matters -- the real meat-and-potatoes that all the other nonsense happens around. If you can't get things quite straight in your head, this intro will help.

It starts like this:

Forget everything you've heard. Bitcoin is complicated like magic is complicated. It's not. But things are told to you in an obscure way, amidst a lot of distracting nonsense, which leaves you bewildered.

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...and continues here: http://medium.com/@majc/the-real-magic-of-bitcoin-82476c2fb40b (http://medium.com/@majc/the-real-magic-of-bitcoin-82476c2fb40b)


Title: Re: The Real Magic of Bitcoin
Post by: Rinndaranaur on July 18, 2014, 07:02:13 PM
It is interesting approach!  I like it. You should be proud of yourself


Title: Re: The Real Magic of Bitcoin
Post by: whitefly on July 18, 2014, 08:15:42 PM
I enjoyed this article, good job on writing this.


Title: Re: The Real Magic of Bitcoin
Post by: yunkie on July 18, 2014, 09:10:33 PM
A lot of my friends say its just "magic money" and dont take serious Bitcoin, its hard to explain to computer illiterates it seem  :(


Title: Re: The Real Magic of Bitcoin
Post by: whitefly on July 18, 2014, 09:12:03 PM
A lot of my friends say its just "magic money" and dont take serious Bitcoin, its hard to explain to computer illiterates it seem  :(
There are people who just aren't born to deal with technical stuff, we can't be really mad at them, haha.


Title: Re: The Real Magic of Bitcoin
Post by: _majc on July 18, 2014, 09:34:47 PM
It is interesting approach!  I like it. You should be proud of yourself

I enjoyed this article, good job on writing this.

Good! Thank you.


Title: Re: The Real Magic of Bitcoin
Post by: _majc on July 18, 2014, 09:41:30 PM
A lot of my friends say its just "magic money" and dont take serious Bitcoin, its hard to explain to computer illiterates it seem  :(
Ha, they might be right! ;)
Just tell them what the real magic is. Point them to this post and see if it works.

Edit: I think this belongs here...

Quote from: Arthur C. Clarke in 1979
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.


Title: Re: The Real Magic of Bitcoin
Post by: cookiemonsterwhat on July 18, 2014, 09:45:34 PM
real magic of bitcoin = financial freedom  :P


Title: Re: The Real Magic of Bitcoin
Post by: _majc on July 18, 2014, 09:54:06 PM
real magic of bitcoin = financial freedom  :P
You're not wrong.


Title: Re: The Real Magic of Bitcoin
Post by: yunkie on July 18, 2014, 10:13:07 PM
real magic of bitcoin = financial freedom  :P

But if you get in too late you have as much as freedom as being poor in fiat  :'(


Title: Re: The Real Magic of Bitcoin
Post by: BitcoinTraders on July 18, 2014, 10:16:24 PM
I enjoy the financial freedom, but Im having trouble eventually getting the bit coins back into my bank account, does anyone have any suggestions?


Title: Re: The Real Magic of Bitcoin
Post by: yunkie on July 18, 2014, 10:44:59 PM
I enjoy the financial freedom, but Im having trouble eventually getting the bit coins back into my bank account, does anyone have any suggestions?

Yeah, this too, the little bitcoin I have im scared to withdraw some in fiat form because ive heard histories about how the bank account of the person that tried to withdraw got frozen.


Title: Re: The Real Magic of Bitcoin
Post by: Mobius7 on July 18, 2014, 11:45:37 PM
I enjoy the financial freedom, but Im having trouble eventually getting the bit coins back into my bank account, does anyone have any suggestions?

With more and more merchants accepting bitcoin, we will be able to spend our bitcoin to buy whatever we want (soon hopefully) and won't need to sell them for fiat. :)

Until that time has come, I will use localbitcoins if I need to sell my bitcoin. :)


Title: Re: The Real Magic of Bitcoin
Post by: titan86 on July 19, 2014, 02:36:39 AM
Previously, everyone was thinking about the cashless payments as magical money, because people can't feel its physical form, but now the times change and cashless payments became mainstream long time ago


Title: Re: The Real Magic of Bitcoin
Post by: KimNam on July 19, 2014, 03:27:12 AM
real magic of bitcoin = financial freedom  :P

But if you get in too late you have as much as freedom as being poor in fiat  :'(
we are still on 2nd phase of bitcoin, still not late ;D
many newcomers will become bitcoin adopters in the future :P


I enjoy the financial freedom, but Im having trouble eventually getting the bit coins back into my bank account, does anyone have any suggestions?

With more and more merchants accepting bitcoin, we will be able to spend our bitcoin to buy whatever we want (soon hopefully) and won't need to sell them for fiat. :)

Until that time has come, I will use localbitcoins if I need to sell my bitcoin. :)
we still need newly adopted who buy some bitcoin
if there's a lot merchant and bitcoin spender, it will make sell pressure on market


Title: Re: The Real Magic of Bitcoin
Post by: Mobius7 on July 19, 2014, 07:56:51 AM
I enjoy the financial freedom, but Im having trouble eventually getting the bit coins back into my bank account, does anyone have any suggestions?

With more and more merchants accepting bitcoin, we will be able to spend our bitcoin to buy whatever we want (soon hopefully) and won't need to sell them for fiat. :)

Until that time has come, I will use localbitcoins if I need to sell my bitcoin. :)
we still need newly adopted who buy some bitcoin
if there's a lot merchant and bitcoin spender, it will make sell pressure on market

Well, if bitcoin becomes that popular, those merchants may keep part of the bitcoin payment (rather than selling it right away), and they could pay their employees and pay their bills with bitcoin. :)


Title: Re: The Real Magic of Bitcoin
Post by: Mercator on July 19, 2014, 07:42:58 PM
Nice guide.

What your guide emphasises is that Bitcoin is not at all like old money but a niftily combined accounting system which anyone with coins can update

We need this kind of perspective to see what a paradigm shift this represents.

It just needs a tipping point to be reached in understanding and adoption will soar.



Title: Re: The Real Magic of Bitcoin
Post by: Kprawn on July 19, 2014, 08:39:49 PM
Ah a very Fresh look at it. I liked the "While every bitcoin in existence remains unmoved, bitcoin-ownership moves around as freely (and directly) as a quarter in the street. But there’s a big difference: the transferability of bitcoin-ownership is much better than a quarter in the street." part.  ;D

Well done, I will add this to my "Explain bitcoins to Noobs" Bookmark.  ;D

 


Title: Re: The Real Magic of Bitcoin
Post by: _majc on July 20, 2014, 02:02:51 PM
We need this kind of perspective to see what a paradigm shift this represents.
It just needs a tipping point to be reached in understanding and adoption will soar.
Yes, although I would add this pathway too:
Tipping point in understanding --> Growth in development --> Tipping point in slickness --> Growth in adoption.

Good development follows good understanding (of what we're really developing).


Title: Re: The Real Magic of Bitcoin
Post by: _majc on July 20, 2014, 02:09:48 PM
Ah a very Fresh look at it. I liked the "While every bitcoin in existence remains unmoved, bitcoin-ownership moves around as freely (and directly) as a quarter in the street. But there’s a big difference: the transferability of bitcoin-ownership is much better than a quarter in the street." part.  ;D

Well done, I will add this to my "Explain bitcoins to Noobs" Bookmark.  ;D
Good! Thank you. Spread it around!


Title: Re: The Real Magic of Bitcoin
Post by: _majc on July 20, 2014, 02:48:13 PM
What are everyone's thoughts (or votes) on what to write next?
A solid explanation of wallets/keys makes sense, but after that?

(Edit: the confusion around intrinsic value seems to come up a lot in offline discussion...)


Title: Re: The Real Magic of Bitcoin
Post by: _majc on July 21, 2014, 11:40:34 AM
But if you get in too late you have as much as freedom as being poor in fiat  :'(

we are still on 2nd phase of bitcoin, still not late ;D
many newcomers will become bitcoin adopters in the future :P

we still need newly adopted who buy some bitcoin
if there's a lot merchant and bitcoin spender, it will make sell pressure on market

Forget the get-rich-quick stuff (forget what KimNam is selling, and yunkie is buying).

It's a circus.

When a person gains a shitload of cash by stumbling into it more-or-less accidentally (and for nothing), that is not financial freedom. That's dumb luck. Right time, right place, jackpot, good for them.

When a person gains a new useful ability with their finances -- when they're suddenly able to do something with their money that they couldn't do before -- that is financial freedom. And that's not dumb luck. In fact, there's a whitepaper (http://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf) which states exactly the kind of financial freedom Bitcoin is designed to give to people; exactly the kind of financial limitations Bitcoin is designed to overcome.

It's in the very first sentence of the Abstract, and the very first paragraph of the Introduction. Szabotoshi Nickamoto, it would seem, conceived of Bitcoin with the second kind of financial freedom in mind. (See OP for details).