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After a user request, I’m here to scan the Quarkcoin source and blocks to sniff if have ninja, scam, hide, premine or other things on the source and on the block explorer.

Remember that this service is free!
I'll accept donations but do not try to say that is bribe, or you think that people that find ninjas and developers need be a beggar?

First:
Forgive me if I use a wrong word, slang or maybe I saw words non understandable, but I’m Brazilian and my English knowledge is very poor!  ;D

Second:
The time to make this article is very long because my computer and internet is very bad, repeat I use a Dell Vostro 1520 and my internet connection have just 1mbps!

I read this posts with some accusations:
http://forum.qrk.cc/thread/368/auditing-block-chain
http://forum.qrk.cc/thread/339/looking-bill-stills-quark-donations
http://forum.qrk.cc/thread/1411/exchange-bought-000-worth-quark

I have a conclusion, but let’s see if we can change this conclusion with some code interpretation?
I’ll explain after proof with Code Data and Block Explorer what I find and what Bitcoin have too!
OK?

While I write this article my blockchain of Quarkcoin are 44 weeks ago and updating, but I can work on BlockExplorer of Quark that is online!

https://i.imgur.com/quRrT8X.jpg

The first thing that we need to scan is the source-code ok?
Let’s see!

https://i.imgur.com/RmxtR7Z.jpg

The subsidy return only text on MAIN.CPP file and now we go to see what he said!
https://i.imgur.com/jTjkRrm.jpg

CODE COMMENT 001:
Said that the Genesis Block Reward will be of 1 COIN (Integer)!

Said that Block Reward of Quark will be 2048 (Integer too) until the last block!

Finally the last Variable said that minimum coin generated by a block is 1 QRK (Integer too)!

Now we conclude that ALL Blocks mined are of 2048 QRK and you can see at they blockexplorer!
Let’s see:

https://i.imgur.com/6aQJQir.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ahOot09.jpg

Yes, ALL blocks on the Quarkcoin have 2048 Coins except the GENESIS BLOCK that have 1 COIN!
The source-code are clean of SHIT, NINJA, HIDE, PREMINE, SCAM and the blockexplorer is not modified!
So, why this guys put this address of admins, developers like they are scamming people?

I have a brief explanation to give:
When a people make a coin that not have premine, IPO, etc. This guy have 4 options to make profit:
1-   Donations;
2-   Fee on Official pools, webwallets, exchanges;
3-   Mining;
4-   Services!

So, maybe this guy have mined when the diff was low and have more money that other people, I have a friend that is owner of 330 GPU on Argentina, he have a Mining Group that have others GPU and on a coin named XXX he mine 2.5% of total supply, they are scammers too?

Let’s see the Bitcoin blockexplorer too?

BTC EXPLORER:
https://i.imgur.com/8EmRNHF.jpg

BTC EXPLORER:
https://i.imgur.com/sZKGfnw.jpg

BTC EXPLORER:
https://i.imgur.com/B4GBAS0.jpg


So let’s see this address of Bitcoin:
1CjPR7Z5ZSyWk6WtXvSFgkptmpoi4UM9BC

https://i.imgur.com/Hf2deYh.jpg

Now to finish this article:

The accusations posted here http://forum.qrk.cc/thread/339/looking-bill-stills-quark-donations
Are explained by this image:

https://i.imgur.com/HSPjlCz.jpg

NOTE: This calc are ok? Please If I'm wrong, correct me! This calc have this variable:

BLOCKS MINED + TRANSFERS!

So, they do not have NINJA and PREMINE, I can proof forking the coin or with blockexplorer!

COMMENT 002
So, before make accusations see the possibilities! This coin receive my seal that is secure and clean. The amount that Admin, Developer or team have after people mine the first block do not makes it unsecured, scam or other things that is demoralizing,  because maybe the team of coin are mining too, receive donations or other things.

NOTE: If I’m wrong about any things will be pleasure fix when a people proof my error! I’m not “OWNER OF THE TRUTH” but I’m working to sniff and find scam coins.

LOL, yeah I have a large bag I bought for 21-50 satoshi each.

Looks like Quarkcoin IS a good long term investment.

That is so awesome sr.machado, quark communities are so honoured to have your seal. You Rock <3

Thanks for doing this !

Yes thank you :)

To the foothills!

He doesn't strike me as the type that would soil his reputation by taking bribes to give a false report.
Quite a lot of scamcoins he can make money from by exposing, what would motivate him to dirty his rep now?

Thank you very much Sr. Machado! Glad to receive your seal of approval:)

We welcome trollers to challenge or try different angles to disprove you, as this will be the natural course of things in the process of clearing Quarks name once and for all! ;D


Meantime, if you want to post your official QRK address here(or let me know if we can use the one from Twitter), and I will post it as the official donation address on my OP thread on Reddit--

Thank you again:D

Thank you, remember that this service is for free, If the community want to donate I'll accept and be happy!


BTC ADDRESS: 1Nz8kcPrUYVcqdqUBWVcbqMg6SdbkeuPsE

QRK ADDRESS: QV1H1HqsXF3PYctfNtdTr2NuqCaEZNz22k

where you find this text?

BTW:
https://i.imgur.com/ORozd5D.jpg

WHERE?

Can you proof?

I can proof who is you:
https://i.imgur.com/OWnAL3d.jpg

not hearing anything us "older" users here didn't know already.. but good job guy :)

a key aspect new lippy brats don't realize is that this coin stuff has been an evolution
and you can not condemn a guy for not making a perfect coin way back in time.. it's a learning process making coins !

I still have some Cryptobits which was made by request of a well known dev (for who exactly i don't know) but it never took off..
point being is CYB had some newer features to it no other coin had..i am not an expert on it but i was told by the guy that made it.
The way it was made was to be more resistant to flash mining i think sort of.
I can't recall what the dev said to me word for word about it and i don't want to get it wrong though lol

IS the intentions and actual code of a coin designed and intended from the start to be unfair in some way ? that is what we need to ask !
Which brings me back to me previous point.. HISTORY and Evolution
It was common for coins to be made way back that were easy to flash mine and have large rewards put out in a short time.
The typical new coin would get an average response from the public and by that i mean how much hash power we all put into the new coin..
THEN Take something like Prime coin or Quark coin and we had some new coin that was seriously different than the usual scrypt algo clones we got..
This will cause a sudden and mostly unexpected massive surge of hash power to be put on these new innovative coins !
And i really don't think the Quark dev or Prime coin dev etc fully realized how popular and how fast their coin would get
and they probably underestimated how to modify the coins block rewards to pay out more at a gradual slower pace..
Users in crypto are ALWAYS trying to find a way to game the system.. and who is to blame for that ?
In quark's case it was us the users !
Quark coin exploded in popularity over night and we all of sudden had a new scene popping up at that time taking off..
Mining Server rentals.
This was never much of a thing before Prime or Quark etc..
But since those two coins were CPU mined only it spawned a new industry.. The CPU Botnet ..and people renting them.

I can't even think of another coin off hand back then that was CPU mined only.. only Prime coin and Quark come to mind.
So think about it.. that is the holy grail of a new coin.. a super "feature" of sorts LOL
It attracted a crowd on launch and was hit as hard as we possibly could.

So did that result in too many coins being mined ? maybe a little i don't know.. ask the Quark dev, it was his vision and goals for initial distribution.
I do know that Securecoin was soon after put out mimic'ing Bitcoins block reward distribution model / block reward etc
and that too got hit hard by us all with Botnets etc.. and those botnets to this day are STILL pounding SRC hard LOL

Back then when Quark came out i was making a few coins but the difficulty rocketed up so fast i was soon unable to even get single share submitted on a pool.
BOTNETS had taken over squeezing us little guys out..
I soon went to Secure coin and the same thing happened.

So i was an early investor and miner (about 2 weeks after release i think)
and made little and i also sold early too ! ..long before Max Keiser came into the picture or noobs flooded us with bs and drama and fud'ing

Anyway i think Quark and Secure coin were released fairly ..i was here on day one for both.
And not one single person on hundreds of forum pages complained about the coin(s) or on chat boxs etc.
i never seen a complaint until December 2013 roughly when noobs showed up trying to FUD quark.. AFTER the M. Keiser drama.
saying it was flashed mined and unfair or it was premined (a bold face lie)
It kind of was flash mined but all coins are and the top 3 most innovative and popular coins are going to be hit harder than normal.. it's natural.

What happened ? were coins unfairly distributed ? i think not.. most of us got in early and dumped early..
Quarks prices were bad for ages and it rocketed up in value with every other coin NOV 2013 when noobs rushed in.

They also got fed some drama from Max Keiser hyping it and that bloated the value up.. those guys then either made money on the hype or sold later at a loss.
and are NOW FUD'ing the coin and making shit up about it.. probably because they sold at a loss and got swept up in hype. (sorry but learn to trade morons)
There has a been a lot of attacks on the reputation of this coin unfairly !

There is also nothing wrong with Max Keiser hyping the coin or Bill taking donations or what ever..
If there was a shred of proof in any way shape or form of any immoral or wrong doing with any of these guys i would say so in a hear beat !
And everyone in Crypto knows it too LOL
I would take no prisoners.. and i would trash the damn coin for eternity.. whether i had some of them or not.. Facts are facts !

There is a lot more to the story than a few lines of source code.
And i will stress again..
why is it after maybe a few thousand comments not one single guy was found to be crying scam or unfair before Dec 2013 roughly ?
Why ? Because there was nothing to complain about period .

Thank you very very much Sr!! I will post this on my OP on Reddit--

By the way, it didn't take very long for the trollers to come did it, lol?!!!.

Well we will certainly welcome legitimate challenges and hopefully the people who troll just for the sake of trolling will simply go away:)

I think the OP is legit and honest.. he has my support :)

Good job verifying the code.. it's a time consuming boring pain in the ass i think.
It would take a LOT for me to go to that much trouble.. i am faaaar to lazy hahha

This topic = Spoetnik Approved™

Thanks Spoetnik,
I never used this coin but after see they board, source and watch about dumper guys.

You have good knowledge base of C++?
I'm not "older" here on btctalk but I see that all coins, new coins, services, etc except BITCOIN are with declared war, they ever "proof" shit and make nonsense accusations.
Quark is the first coin that have TOTAL CPU mined? This algo QRK is the first that promises this?


Thanks and good investment and work guy!

Thanks, When a guy that have +1 TRUST and are Sr.Member I respect..Trully respect!

Hugs

No it's no hype, quark is a good coin with caring supporters and active core members.

Now repeat me:

I apologise for spreading premine fud without having done any research

Word of Thanks from a Quark newbie.

This is the good part of this forum, we can make self-moderated post to delete nonsense, hater comments, repeated and bastard!

Now I'm very very scared by you guy...

http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101018181514/uncyclopedia/images/thumb/c/c2/Someretardedguy.jpg/300px-Someretardedguy.jpg

I'm sniff for some coins that are with shit, and Quark is clean.

by now, all topics mine will be safe-moderated to delete all posts that you make! :)

+1 for you loser.

My project are honest and not have nothing that I can't proof.

I've deleted because my project was starded like Browser coin but with double bug I remove this function and now I'm working on a x15 project (READ PROJECT) your worm retarded.

My life is not based on liars and scam accusations without data, I have data to proof when a coin is scam and when is not!

Can you proof that Quark is a scam or some bullshit text?

For now I'll delete your text and save only the quoation here! I have COW POWER on this topic MF!

Get out of here you noob, learn how to make a proof and how to make a "hello world" and go back here to discuss...


"THEY ARE SCAMMING...MIMIMIMI" But do not have solid proof!

You crack me up. (just in case there's a language / culture barrier, that's a compliment)

Of course I see what is happening here.

A kind coder looked at the code and did not find any scam issues.

Some people still make scam accusations but without any actual evidence.

A claim with evidence vs a claim without evidence.

Yes, I see what is going on here.

Science says the earth is billions of years old, and has lots of evidence. But some still say it is 6,000 years old and have no evidence.

That's exactly what is going on here.

No, I don't know him.

And I currently hold only 16 (okay 15.9999) quark coins - less than a quarter USD.

I like the coin a lot, I may make a significant purchase soon, but I'm still watching it. I just found out about it literally within the last week or so, buying a lot now would be stupid because I haven't finished my analysis.

-=-

The coin not being a scam doesn't mean it is a good investment, many coins that are not scams fail miserably.

But there is no evidence to suggest it is a scam. Not that I've seen.

What I have seen is within last six months or so, a buttload of coins have suddenly been released making me suspect there is a criminal ring behind many of them.

QuarkCoin was released before that sudden surge in coins, but it is still good to see that no evidence of scam was found in the code.

@OP, I got your quick msg via PM
and i don't have the source code right now and i am a bit busy :(
maybe post publicly for help ?

thanks for the reply earlier too..
i appreciate people trying to be honest about things even if we *may have different views on *some things.

to other people
all i can say is this guy has done a good job at checking things and went to a lot of trouble to do it.
he didn't find anything.
..so sorry Quark trolls but if the code is clean ? ..the code is clean.

i think it was an average coin in design with a radical new algo tacked on to it,
which triggered an unusual high level of popularity resulting in a large flash mine of sorts.

the *context is important here for Quark and almost always avoided and ignored when talking about it.

It's future ? i have no damn idea lol

wrong.
i know i was sitting on Cryptsy as it was traded almost 24/7 and i know for a fact you are lying.. FUD'ing and part Trolling here.

Troll alert

@ stealthcoin gtfo quark is a clean coin as you have been wrong, also it's none of your business who and how much people buy or sell into their fav coins.

Good job quark folks

we love trolls - we have been dealing with them from the start:

- down voting  our Reddiit
- claiming to be different people on many forums
- trying to spread misinfo and disinfo

I personally love all that.


but this one is a new one "stealth" man seems to be saying that the "Bitcoin" overlords are unhappy with this result and the attention, and this is "thier" forum.

so maybe this is a "warning" to us that we will see increasing moderation - i have noticed this myself, these are good signs this means that if we are pushed off Bitcointalk

we can take reputable crypto to another platform, this would in effect be splitting the crypto forum into the "exclusive scam zone" and a "general crypto forum." (which wouldn't be a Quark forum but more likely a general forum)

my first thoughts move to https://cryptocointalk.com/ -

but I certainly like the format of the simpler forum such as this.

Who got Bill Still into Quark?

I did.

and proud to have done that, i hope more monetary reformers and people that care about humanity and human rights join in also in the future.

human rights defined as:

- the right to exchange good and services (or their tokens)  with whoever you wish.

- the right of free exchange of your energy.

- the right to bear arms in defense, not in anger.

- the right to free speech with everyone responsible for their actions.

- the right to "normal quiet enjoyment" of your life, without surveillance and unwarranted search and theft.

very similar to the US constitution.  but mostly common sense.

where Bank corporations are in opposition is; they dictate or have decided that humans must use their "goods and services tokens" (energy tokens) for all transactions.  (Debt issued paper)

this leads to all the other rules being broken to "enforce" this rule.  

The question we need to ask ourselves is that do we need to mess up such perfect codes by forking, creating superblock, just to bring up the value? I can tell u guys I'm a quark adopter for only one month plus. Ever since I have no regret of turning back. I believe there are many more soon to be adopters with such confidence we instill into quark!

I use color mods and everything is black and white eh.. i see no green colors ever and i see no "bar" anywhere on my screen lol
So i don't think too much about that which i can not see.. or even know exists.

i also just recently noticed i had +1 by my name and i have no idea why or when or where it came from. LOL
i was surprised because i thought i was the most hated guy around hahha

also i said i got rid off my Quark coins long before Keiser came into the picture last year.. so i have no "bag"

and if i am deceiver provide just one single piece of proof.. you can't period.

i am also not confused the source code does not lie..
and i am confused now how all these guys from last year sat in one chair.. they must be really skinny ?

So uhh since you can't delete stuff here because it will get mirrored online forever what is it you want us to search for again ?
I actually don't even care about Quark or your trolling at this point i am amused by your antics LOL
what next ?
You had some comments deleted and bitched about that for a while now you went back to bashing Quark.
And all the OP asked you for was proof to back up your claims.. or at least some analytical reasoning.
The OP followed this rule as did i and all the rest of us.. extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.
back up your mouth.. the OP already did lol

I can't remember what but I know I haven't always agreed with everything you've said, and it is possible I've argued with a point or two.

But you always struck me as someone who is sincere and honest and wants the best for everyone, and that's a good thing.

Differences in opinion are just that - differences in opinion.

You definitely are not hated around here, not that I've seen. But I've only become active again recently.

Quark=Scam.

It had a instamine, premine, and Hidden premine.

And it ate my children alive. Didn't even bother cooking them first, how un-civilized!

Sr. Machado, thanks for debunking the myth of pemine one again and in all detail. Some people never needed any proof that Quark is a scam and I guess even after debunking the myth they will still stick to the conspiracy.  However,  for newcomers this is a good introduction.

Dont forget that they are manually faking the speed of quarkcoin. It's a massive unprecented scam, get rid off all your QRK before it's too late!!

All accusations here do not have solid proof, it's a strategy of FUD, talk and the newbies get scared!

So, sorry but haters gonna hate the ROI in few months!

"Stealthcoin"

lol, enough said.

Do not buy Quarkcoin, I beg you please! It has no advantages over the other cryptos, it is not ASIC proof, it was premined, instamined and hidden-mined. It is not one of the fastest coins on the market and it will never be adopted by the gaming industry as a leading gaming crypto! It has this stupid name Quark and it's logo is so ugly! Its community is a bunch of delusional illiterate, lazy lunatics without any sense of humor. C'mon.... it is poised to fail. Just sell all you got asap! Preferably on cryptsy or bter... I am dead serious

ha ha this is great !

: D

No proofs, you poops...

You sound scared like your life is depending on people buying quark lol, read OP's post again it's not pre mined or has any hidden mine.

and regarding the bold part you made me do some digging and guess what: It already did, by big deez productions

http://i58.tinypic.com/4qr8zc.png

So are you going to suicide now?

I think so. But just before I make my leave I am dedicating you this link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_psychology

now I am heading to the top floor. Bye, see ya all in the next reincarnation

Bye bye..

wow，another scam coin

No, Quark is clean.

Read the proofs or show your proofs! :D

Prove that Quark is a scam.

This guy Sr Machado has just proven that Quark is legit using extensive in-depth research and evidence. All I have seen from the other side are simple assertions with no supporting evidence. 

If someone has proven that the Earth is round, and can show you the steps he has taken that prove it, I am going to need a little more than "no the Earth is flat" to convince me.

I wonder what Bill Still thinks about Quark these days? I remember I invested some BTC to get like 500 QRK which I still own, and im pretty sure i've lost money. I reckon he and Max Keiser were pumping this coin and there was a big price uprise expected after the Bill Still interview on Keiser's show but nothing happened, the price as done nothing but keep going low since then. I think QRK is a good coin with a good community but the instamine thing is going to keep chasing them just like it will happen whit DRK (in fact it happens now).

But from my understanding, it is a fact that DRK was instamined.

oh good don't open that can of worms here LOL

@OP i think you got another one for your list to check out hahha
Dark Coin

and hey did you get it figured out what you pm'd me about ?
if you still need help i can grab the source code and have a look.. i *sort of know what to look for lol

my specialty is comparing code bases.. wouldn't matter if the code for a coin is 600 terabytes i could rip through it quickly..
i have been doing that for over a decade (comparing code bases)
i've done lots.. in 2004 i made a file sharing program that is still popular to this day, (among other things) specifically a "mod" based on eMule
which required skill in comparing code BIG time lol

Hey mate, I solve the problem, the blocks are count by transfer + mining.

Nice to see a good developer here. i'll see DRK.

Great, I look forward to your findings when complete.

bright future for quark

Absolutely! I am buying more.

No mining supply left to be dumped = new ATH during/after the next BTC bubble


QRK is down more than 10X of its ATH with solid bid support on Cryptsy, screaming buy for me!

I think these are the last days of cheap quark. It bottomed at 0.00001198BTC some two weeks ago and refuses to go lower since. Current price in $$$ is around 0.7 of a cent.
It is the best coin by far!!

This is very interesting to read, and people can learn how scammers work by trying to follow this thread.

The main character in this thread is "Kolin Evans"  aka "digitalindustry" : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=674410.0 and made many profits with Quark and acted as if he was the spokes man of Quark **

It is still difficult to find out which persons in this thread alone which are real and who are just another account name of digitalindustry (or a shill account).
But first the investigation. There are calculation mistakes and the OP overlooked (on purpose?) a few interesting things while he pointed to it.

The most important doubtful things I found:

1) the blocks 1, 100 and 1000 and timestamps:

block 1: 13:03:50
Block 2: 13:04:06 (=16 seconds block time)
block 100: 13:14:18 (=average block time of 612 seconds/100 blocks = 6 seconds!)
block 1000: 14:42:58 (=average block time of 5932 seconds/1000 blocks = 6 seconds!)

With the 30 second blocktime of Quark you would expect:
Block 100 after: 100*30 seconds = 50 minutes. Not 10 minutes after launch
Block 1000 after: 1000*30 seconds = 500 minutes = 8 hours and 20 minutes. Not 1 hour and 38 minutes after launch.

Above is exactly the reason why Quark is called an instamined coin by many persons:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=833442.msg9341740#msg9341740
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260031.msg2774252#msg2774252

Nowhere in his investigation this is discussed.

2) Multiple wallet addresses direct after launch.

When you check the blockchain you will find multiple Quark wallet addresses mining Quark.
This is mostly used as an argument for good distribution of Quark.
However...
Is each wallet address a single miner, or have single miners multiple wallet addresses? Or was a mixing device used? I have no idea....

But...
If there were so many miners at launch why was the hashrate so low??
https://bitinfocharts.com/de/comparison/difficulty-qrk.html
As can be seen, the hashrate increased when the price exploded in November/December 2013. Not at launch.
Also what is doubtful is that Quark was spread over multiple addresses just two hours after launch (see block 1576: http://qrk.blockr.io/block/info/1576 )

Nowhere the OP discussed this in his investigation.

3) Total amount of Quark

Quark is designed that after 6 months there were 247M Quark in circulation, and thereafter there can still be 1M Quark mined each year.
This means that at the moment about 248M Quark is in existence.
According to the OP there are about 782M Quark in circulation at 20NOV2013 (4 Months after launch). A miscalculation of more than 500M Quark by the OP.


So far in my opinion the lousy investigation by the OP.
I notified him, but of course he didn't react or corrected his investigation.

Further about the reactions afterwards.

That is also interesting to see.

According to " digitalindustry" (DI) and "Spoetnik" (a person associated with Kolin, who have problems to distinguish himself from DI (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=833442.msg9366830#msg9366830 ) this is a great investigation and compliment the OP.
.
The Quark holders (netnox, coinmama, quarkfx, quarkcheck and reraise), are also happy and relieved that they haven't invest in a "scam coin" and show appreciation to the OP.

But then there is one person "Stealthcoin" who knows more about Quark and knows this whole investigation is just one "theater play" by scammers.
He tried to show, but he is attacked by (shill)accounts of DI, and the OP removes some of his posts.
The (shill)accounts of DI who attack "stealthcoin" are: StephenJH, AliceWonder, Spoetnik and BitcoiNaked.

It is interesting to see that scammers attack the attackers (try to denigrate the attacker) and try to confuse. But that real investors are done with posting in this thread after they showed their appreciation.


**
Kolin created multiple accounts and has many shill accounts. It is one big Digitalindustry family on bitcointalk.
Some examples of accounts from DI himself:
"philipkdick" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=121013
"cyberkiller" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=121469
"cryptocurrencybroker" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=128669
"mimimimimi https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=345512

Shill accounts (most probably other people, but always on the defence of DI (related stuff))
"Hilux74" https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=135976




And this is only the tip of the iceberg lol.

Your calculations are mostly right but I think you are mistaken about the relationships between the people with it, for the most part people around the forums don't communicate as much and are just skeptical of each other in general.

The First Blocks that would have been mined then or Premine through Instamine might be about 2 Million or so? I guess it would depend on how long it was released after BitcoinTalk launch and how many Blocks were mined before then to get an idea of the amount of hashrate that the initial rigs were outputting.

Height: 1
 Version: 112
 Transaction Merkle Root: 7db74d7bdacb6068375d799062dbe044a0fa77debdf43c02bca55c7e8a5f7243
 Time: 1374422630 (2013-07-21 16:03:50)

looking at the Quark Block Explorer, 28 Blocks were mined in the first 5 minutes (average time 10.7 seconds)

Height: 28
 Version: 112
 Transaction Merkle Root: cfcaad1952520c853c4376e6dfea85c9dd0815bf46ee5041890e1964a3ff8fe4
 Time: 1374422928 (2013-07-21 16:08:48)


95 blocks after 10 Minutes (average time 5.7 seconds)

Height: 95
 Version: 112
 Transaction Merkle Root: 0038481bdc7830eee0ca15b18082f1459840ff2052b7225817ae5e4d30350137
 Time: 1374423222 (2013-07-21 16:13:42)

500 blocks after 45 minutes (average time 5.4 seconds)

Height: 500
 Version: 112
 Transaction Merkle Root: f3a9c374a5fe484c12602592a02cdef33d4c1da8d1a6e791a4a5f88bc41380dd
 Time: 1374425372 (2013-07-21 16:49:32)

750 blocks after 1 hour and 6 minutes (average time 5.28 seconds)

Height: 750
 Version: 112
 Transaction Merkle Root: 8b58465d421d334280b471272a3fa381dd48981fd04203bbedc89db7034db4a8
 Time: 1374426572 (2013-07-21 17:09:32)
 Difficulty: 1.991 (Bits: 1e008091)
 Cumulative Difficulty: 1.583

1000 blocks after 1 hour and 40 minutes (average time 6 seconds)

Height: 1000
 Version: 112
 Transaction Merkle Root: 0bfc8ae71f8d1316e80e36d115cc1012dd6450ab5d189a209677f5d8183c3544
 Time: 1374428578 (2013-07-21 17:42:58)
 Difficulty: 6.949 (Bits: 1d24d6f1)
 Cumulative Difficulty: 5.363

1500 blocks after 3 hours and 50 minutes (average time 9.23 seconds)

Height: 1500
 Version: 112
 Transaction Merkle Root: deede55bf518b02db7532b706dab0e7cf8451d4e9f6aaef495cb9511f8aab737
 Time: 1374436403 (2013-07-21 19:53:23)
 Difficulty: 76.878 (Bits: 1d035477)
 Cumulative Difficulty: 59.770


Now you can go to the Quark topic main page https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260031.0 and you can see that everyone was complaining about orphans but lots of people got blocks, one guy got 50 blocks of the first 1000 blocks.


Conclusion:

With low starting difficulty and a long retarget time, the reward output increases until the hashrate levels out.

If there was a large rig put on to Quark after it was launched by the developers that made it, that hashrate would have been pushed out by the time it hit block 1500 or so, a lot of miners found the difficulty getting too high to mine quite early on in the life of Quark.

Ah thanks you did a re-calculation and came to the same results?

Can you clarify what happened at block 1576? Why would somebody spread his mined Quark over multiple wallets 2 hours after launch?

Also any idea about the involvement of "hazard"?
(I will explain this later when I can post some links)

Well, you had quoted me on it from something I had read before and posted about so I thought I'd add to it. IMO it can still be called a fair launch as it was launched within a few minutes of the original post and a lot of people jumped on it pretty quickly, the Original Post was about the same time as the first block and isn't any hidden premine or extra code or viruses as far as I can tell. The only stuff I ever heard about Quark being unfair was about the first 1000-1500 blocks and even that is still better than most launches.

I was never a fan of Quark, hate the name, could have never mined it on my 4 yr old laptop and didn't want to buy it because my realization a month in was that all POW coins were going to plummet in value and they all did.

"Fair" in that respect that there was a thread, and right thereafter you could mine "it" therefore you can say now; "no, Quark is not a pre-mined coin".

But:
1)
People had no idea what they could mine at launch, because it was not properly announced:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260031.msg2774534#msg2774534

2)
There was at launch not a windows wallet available and you needed to be an expert in mining coins at linux. Quark supposed to be a mining coin for everyone, but it wasn't:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260031.msg2774809#msg2774809

3)
The first time the developer showed himself in the Quark thread was 5 days after launch. But still he didn't say anything actually.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260031.msg2806797#msg2806797
The developer uses a fictional name, and has not any objectives for the coin. Many months later (end 2013) you will find somewhere an interview with Max http://quarktalk.org/resources/interview-with-quark-developer-max-guevara.5/
, but that is the same thing as an interview with Donald Duck who created "Duckcoin". In that interview Max doesn't say anything about himself or what other coins he created.

Coins Max created or is associated with:
- Myriad (confirmed by Kolin and Adam (shake) ) and to a certain extent by Max him self in an IRC meeting.
- Mimiccoin: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=781954.msg9007804#msg9007804
Note: this post also shows how nervous Max is to be associated with other coins created by him. So I don't doubt one second that he created many many more.
- Zetacoin: (why authored Max for Zeta to be included with vanitygen? ) https://github.com/llamasoft/securecoin-vanitygen/pull/1/commits

In my opinion "No pre-mined coin" will never work, because if you want your coin to succeed you need to have a lot of money to pay for infrastructure, development and marketing for your coin. Who is going to pay for that?? Therefore I advocate for transparent pre-mines, and that people working for that coin are not anonymous. The very few people still "working" for Quark don't show their self. I regular visit bitcoin meetings, and then it is open who is who and who is doing what. People are proud of what they are doing for bitcoin in an open way (or other altcoins).

Too bad you can't explain the spreading of Quark two hours ater launch. I still have not found somebody who could give me a logical explanation for this.


EDIT 1:

Some additional information about "digitalindustry" and related coins.
"digitalindustry" is active at github. He authored for his coin "Nibble" two years ago: https://github.com/digitalindustry/nibble
It would not surprise me if he is active at github with multiple accounts.
At github there is also a DGCFoundation active, where digitalindustry related coins are developed:
https://github.com/DGCFoundation

Well this is a sniff thread and that is more information than I have but I was saying that it looked to be a fair launch with the possible exception of a small premine in the first 1000 blocks or so.

I did read somewhere in the Quark thread about them joking about creating a coin that could only be run on an outdated computer.


I fully agree with this, hosting and ongoing development requires an ongoing source of income and you would need some BTC in reserve to get help from people on critical issues or bugs that could render the Coin inoperable. The question with this is trust, competency and security and being too open can have unforeseen consequences.

The truth about this coin was already published in December 2013:

http://www.quora.com/What-is-presently-known-about-the-crypto-currency-competitor-to-Bitcoin-Quarkcoin

this fcking scam lost people lots of money, fcking dev disappeared right from the bat, kolin evans along with bill still should be jailed.

https://github.com/MaxGuevara/quark/commits/master

Active 9 days ago

Wow Max did something at github :D
You know exactly what bitcoinnaked means...Max has never been fully engaged with Quark, the community and/or the projects for Quark. It was so bad that foundation members wanted to pay him to get him more engaged:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260031.msg10005860#msg10005860

He can't be fully engaged, he has half a dozen other scamcoins to take care of and others to extort...

If was pointing out the lie that Max abandoned the coin after release. Max is still updating the coin more than a year after release. Max has done a lot in Github more than most devs. That's what he's supposed to do: look after the Core Quark code.

Recently a sockpuppet account is revealed of Max Guevara (the creator of Quark): "WillowRosenberg"
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=260031.msg10331605#msg10331605

If you look at the post history of Willow Rosenberg you can find out that the creator of Quark is involved in more coins:

- Unobtanium (UNO) (he didn't create it, but wants to merge mine his coins (XJO/Zeta) with UNO)
- Joulecoin (XJO)
- Myriad (already suspected but confirmed now)
- Woodcoin (Willow is listed as the developer and he created the wallet as pointed out in his post below)
- Zetacoin (already suspected but confirmed now)
- Qcoin (dead after one week) (not sure he created it but why would he bother that the announcement is not correct?, then you can keep posting till you drop dead with all the false announcements at bitcointalk :D)
- Full Integrity coin (FIC) (also dead)
- ...

With FIC it seems that Willow created the coin for somebody else.
The following conversation is interesting at FIC:

1. Willow points out to the OP (fullintegrity) that there is something wrong at the github. (most probably Willow checked whether everything is ok with the coin after he handed the coin over to the OP):
 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=837752.msg9359231#msg9359231

2. The OP has not much experience with github and can't update it: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=837752.msg9362504#msg9362504

3. Then the OP gets help (not from WIllow but from "pineapples"): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=837752.msg9364954#msg9364954

It seems that Max/Willow works closely with DI (If I check the post history of "pineapples" it seems that "pineapples" is a sockpuppet account..of DI??) (not 100% sure but posts of "pineapples" are hard to read and he supports DI related coins):
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=361576.msg4363417#msg4363417
Also "pineapples" posts to confuse readers.

Maybe "tuaris" is also interesting to read if you want to know more about "max". In a few threads "tuaris" take over the discussion from Willow: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=267545.msg8437711#msg8437711. Not sure yet who "tuaris" is.

Lol, now I am ocminer too, I'm honoured.

If you read my posts, e.g. QCoin, I was pointing out that it is a shitcoin with bugs in it. So now I'm the dev. Lol.

For Woodcoin I compiled a wallet because I wanted to use it on Windows and the dev didn't provide a wallet.

Unobtanium is Bryce Weiner's coin, so now I'm Bryce Weiner too. Lol.

You've gone full retard with your conspiracies.

P.S. I posted in Bitcoin threads too, so therefore I could be Satoshi!

Where did I say you are THE dev? I only mentioned you are involved ;)

I was not finished reading all the nonsense threads where you posted, my initial post is edited regarding Qcoin.
The rest is correct I quess... by developing a wallet you are involved with woodcoin. And you advice Unobtanium with merge mining with your coins (XJO and Zeta), therefore you are also involved...
Thanks for your help to be more accurate.

And no you are not THE dev of all the coins where you posted. You also posted in threads were you suspected that developers copied your coins (eg Joincoin) to troll a little bit?

You Satoshi??...lol...in your wildest dreams maybe ;). But please, don't share your dreams here :D. This thread is about the truth about Quark, not your dreams.

This is really over the top. A new coin is launched without the source code, and I point out this coin has no source code. Now I'm the dev.

Get a life dude.

You can also just ignore it if you think it is of zero relevance ;-)

It is ironic that Max never answered when Quark foundation members e-mailed or tried to contact him. And now he reacts instantly.

(ah , Max deleted his last post below I see :)
I already didn't understand what his message was)

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