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Michael Fallon, who was promoted by David Cameron on Tuesday, accused Russia of “sponsored terrorism” in supporting pro-Moscow separatists, who have been accused of bringing down the Malaysian Airlines jet carrying 298 people.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-mh17-crash-michael-fallon-tells-putin--get-out-of-east-ukraine-9617051.html

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Accused with no proofs.
Pls, post some picture with shrapnel on Jet surface from 60 KG of BUK warhead (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=702554.20).

https://www.google.com/search?&q=the+plane+apparently+went+down,+near+the+city+of+Kremenchuk

CNN about Kremenchuk.

http://edition.cnn.com/video/?/video/spanish/2014/07/17/cnnee-ariplane-crash-ukraine-more-200-people-in-plane.cnn



KREMENCHUK (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=%D0%BA%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BC%D0%B5%D0%BD%D1%87%D1%83%D0%B3&hl=ru&ie=UTF8&sll=49.065783,33.410033&sspn=0.326165,0.856934&t=h&hnear=%D0%9A%D1%80%D0%B5%D0%BC%D0%B5%D0%BD%D1%87%D1%83%D0%B3,+%D0%9F%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%B2%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%8F+%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%BB%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%82%D1%8C,+%D0%A3%D0%BA%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B0&z=11)

It's clear that Putin sponsoring war criminals in Eastern Ukraine with finance and weapons, and as results 298 innocent people was killed in plane crash.
I don't believe that Putin is directly responsible for this act but he made this possible and as sponsor of this group he is also responsible for this act of terrorism. 

1. Pls, give some examples of war criminals cases from Lugansk/Donetsk Republics.

2. Who control Kremenchuk Area, where Jet lost communications?

3. Pls. give proofs about ground-air missile shrapnel damages on Jet surface.

Ummno. Right now it looks like its most likely a SAM from the Ukraine Army, IF there was a SAM missilie at all that shot it Down. Could be an airplane from NATOs Black Sea fleat, they apparently had a wargame Down there same time..

Keep up the good work of spreading the truth and a big thanks for doing it! The newspapers are overflooded With war-propaganda, blaming PUTIN for the massacre of KIDS.. and then in the next article declaring Putins "highest ever rating" is because of war and terror in Ukraine, as if Russian People also were evil demons from hell lusting for the blood of innocent kids..  sickening how they're pushing the sheeple into a hate-Russia mode.

Malaysia Airlines Flight 17: Eight unanswered questions
http://edition.cnn.com/2014/07/21/world/europe/malaysia-airlines-unanswered-questions/index.html?hpt=wo_c1 (http://edition.cnn.com/2014/07/21/world/europe/malaysia-airlines-unanswered-questions/index.html?hpt=wo_c1)

2. Why would anyone target a passenger plane?

If indeed the rebels are behind the attack, they may have mistaken the plane for a Ukrainian military craft. In the past few months, the rebels have used surface-to-air missiles to bring down more than a dozen planes, including two transport aircraft, the U.S. Embassy in Kiev said.

Shortly after the crash, Igor Strelkov, the self-proclaimed defense minister of the Donetsk People's Republic, claimed on social media that the rebels had shot down a military transport plane. Those posts were later deleted once it turned out the plane was a civilian aircraft.

"It has the earmarks of a mistaken identification of an aircraft that they may have believed was Ukrainian," Arizona Sen. John McCain told MSNBC.

United States Assessment of the Downing of Flight MH17 and its Aftermath
http://ukraine.usembassy.gov/statements/asmt-07192014.html (http://ukraine.usembassy.gov/statements/asmt-07192014.html)

So, this is official info and reports until now, no speculation.
Please don't take this personal, l don't hate Russians or Russia, just sharing official info I have until now(If this info is wrong I'm also wrong, of course).
If official investigation prove that Russian in Ukraine or Putin are not guilty, despite this official info and statement from USA gov. I will gladly apologize here.
Until than, let's return to the official facts and info we have until now and wait for results from official investigation, ok?.

Where? Mr.Girkin have no facebook/VK/LJ.

Sure, Be a KGB man isn't a bloody work and Russian aren't avoided nationalist...

Russian Federation is a multi ethnic country.
I live in EU.

Russian nationalism is not about ethnicity but the nostalgia of the 19 century empire. Where do you live ? What happen to you to have all this hate ? I know pretty much people like you in France, this is sad, world is beautiful.

Hate to who?

For the west people, history and culture. Here in my country haters are more muslim extremist cause we have a lot of Arab and they have the same thinking than you.

 ???

Putin worked for KGB, so stop think he his an humanist. He helped spreading one of the worst ideology...

Both Russia and the US have intelligence satellite data from the area where the Boeing 777 crashed. Russia has partially released the data which they possess and claimed that the aircraft was downed by an Ukrainian Su-25. Why the US is not releasing their data?

Because they don't need it. Spreading the bullshit with free help from "useful fools"* is much more effective way.

* "Useful fools" is a term here, it was originally introduced by V. Lenin to describe own supporters.

It's getting ridiculous. Well, maybe eventually you will notice that liberal dictocracy is far worse than anything.

What do you call liberal ?

Anyway even if i'm not a progressive i prefer live in some progressive western country rather than in the failed rest of the world. Better condition of live and more liberty.

And without the west way of thinking about freedom this website would not exist and the world would be in the same shit than few century ago.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/16/World_GDP_per_capita_1500_to_2003.png

I think you got something wrong there, friend. He worked for KGB and helped de-construct "one of the worst ideology", not "spread". Spread? How, please do try to explain, did you come to that conclusion?  :D

Explain pls better, where i show this hate. Specially for history and culture. That are arguments absolutely not touched by me on this forum.
I'm a expert in salafism and that is against islam.

What thinking i have, You have no idea about.

this tells you nothing, it's meassured in $, which is under influence of...blahblah blah, we all know that this meassurment is not realistic.

Yes, let's accuse more people of "terrorism". That War on Terror we had really worked out in our favor, didn't it? Iraq and Afghanistan are in such better shape now after we bombed the fuck out of them and killed hundreds of thousands of their civilians! And don't forget all that depleted uranium we used over there, certain populations in Iraq now have permanent mutations and birth defects that are not seen anywhere else in the world.

Sponsoring terrorism always a double edges sword.

Look at what al qaeda did to US.

Stop being stupid this is in constant dollar and in long term economic growth is driven by productivity gain...

I don't know what a 1900 international dollar means, would you care to explain?

1990 is you read well...

My bad! Can't read vertical texts. :D

But nevertheless, if I'm not mistaken, about half of the increase in the world GDP during the last century is not due to productivity gains but thanks to increases in human lifespan. Don't know if this information is correct (and to what degree), but it is beyond any doubt that humans today live much longer than they lived even 100 years ago.

He is a former member of the KGB. Old habits are hard to break.

It's annual GDP per capita... Try again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQH8orMZyWc

Try again what? Per capita here refers to all living humans (including old men and infants), right?

yes, but GDP per capita have nothing to do with age of death...

You seriously contest the productivity gain of the last century ? The agro revolution ? informatics ?

David Cameron, the guy of "If you want to see porn, you have to ask permission. We censor everything we want, both legal and illegal things.".  What a hypocrite.

As for sponsoring violence.. both Europe/US and Russia are sponsoring violence and in effect destroying the Ukraine. I think many people in the eastern part of the Ukraine wants to be part of helped by Russia, the same for the US. In the long term, the people won't have a good economy if this continues though. A mass debt from IMF and crappy economic sancations..  the people of the Ukraine will get less free.

I don't deny the gains in productivity in the last century, but you should understand that GDP per capita is also in direct proportion to the productive years of men (and yes, even an annual GDP per capita), which have increased significantly during the same period of time.

GDP has increased, but so has the debt. Part of the reason the wages kept rising is using paid money of the future..
Of course there were other reasons, but this could be a major contributor.

I don't think that hundreds of thousands of civilians were killed, I doubt it was even thousands of citizens. This is especially the case for Iraq as the country more or less fell peacefully but soldiers would attack after the country fell.

Why are you discussing GDP when the real question is far away? Putin is not saint, everyone knows that. He is sponsoring Ukrainian Rebeliants that is for sure and the most believable scenario is that they shoot down that plane...

Even though people are living longer they tend to retire at the same age. People have also been retiring at earlier ages in recent years. When someone retires they are not producing any goods or services (what GDP measures)

I think generally politicians should not be making such comments until the investigation has been conducted. I don't understand what Russia has to do with it anyway? And separatists, even if they are involved in it, have so far co-operated with everybody there and sent the black boxes to the investigators.

Cause your view on economics define most of your view on politics. If you are against cronyism, you can't support Russia.