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http://www.coindesk.com/perianne-boring-regulators-will-decide-bitcoins-fate-within-18-months/

The North American Bitcoin Conference (TNABC) kicked off this weekend with the surprise launch of the Chamber of Digital Commerce (CDC), a new lobbying group that aims to advocate for smart bitcoin regulation in Washington, DC through a three-part strategy combining government relations, media education and grassroots outreach.

Helmed by president and former Forbes columnist Perianne Boring, the CDC aspires to operate a $1.5m annual budget and will feature an advisory board composed of experienced regulators, former members of Congress and early Internet advocates.

They don't get to decide this one, unfortunately for them. It simply is not in their hands at all. They can try everything they want, but all they will do is delay the inevitable. Get with the program of bitcoin or get run over by it. That is all that anybody can do about it.

After further review, I would say we need to be watch this Chamber of Digital Commerce group even more than the the Bitcoin Foundation. Boring went to the BF first and met with them privately to discuss this matter. There was absolutely zero transparency in that process, just like when Ghash.IO had it private mining Summit. This is getting way out of hand. Every single action and word, written or spoken, that these summits and meetings contain should be recorded and made public for all to see. Furthermore, every single one of their actions must be openly debated with the entire bitcoin community before they ever do anything.

I can see their current system of secrecy as absolutely nothing more than an easy foot in the door cor credit card companies and banks. They'll just send one of their people to join the CDC on Capital Hill at the very last second and toss in the bill they need that says, "Only large, previously established institutions, like big banks and credit agencies, can ever, for all time, give out BTC loans or notarize BTC contracts."

This is disgusting. I feel sick right now. Cleavage in her business photo? Yeah, you can totally trust her!

"The fate of Bitcoin". What can they do? Ban cryptography and the internet?

Personally, I'd rather see more independent lobbying groups than a single, centralised Bitcoin Foundation.  I'll take it as a positive sign that more people are willing to put the effort in and give up their careers to support advocacy efforts.  If there's anything inappropriate going on, then feel free to call them out on it, but at the moment there doesn't appear to be anything untoward going on.  We should take a cautious but measured approach to this news because, like it or not, we do need people to educate the cavemen in charge about how this fancy technology stuff actually works.  If you're volunteering to give up your job to do that, then by all means go ahead, but if all you're going to do is sit at your computer and moan about boobs, then you're not in a position to judge her.

So if I understand correctly what you are saying...

You want some organization (perhaps a government?) to enforce a regulation that would prevent these secret summits and meetings?  And here I thought you were against regulation and for freedom of association.


Be careful, you're letting your misogyny show.

People are free to meet privately all they want. To force them to record their meetings is pretty Orwellian. We don't toss privacy out the window because we don't like certain groups or businesses.

Criticizing the way a person, who happens to be female, dresses for their business photo is misogyny?

No, it is not. Not even close.

Stating that someone is not trustworthy simply because they are female, is a lot closer to misogyny than you seem to be implying.

It is clear from your statement that your problem with her has more to do with the fact that she has breasts than with her choice of clothing.

You have horribly bad reading comprehension. I criticized her choice of clothing for a business photo, and I would say the exact same thing if it was a man with a low-cut shirt showing his "macho chest-hair". Your level of incompetence is off the charts on this matter. Spend a little less time on tumblr. It would do you a lot of good.

You're welcome to your opinion.  Others will make their own judgements about your opinions when you express them.  Looks like neither of us will convince the other, but our comments will stand on their own for others to see.


What's tumblr?

Who's Boring?

They are so far off the pace these people look like time traveller's from the past who just landed trying to advocate and enforce buggy-whip/horse-dung removal laws from the 1900's ... if they are not submitting on github they may as well be be talking to the wall for all the relevancy they effectively muster ... they're smoking something to be looking so dopey.

http://nakamotoinstitute.org/mempool/speculative-attack/ (http://nakamotoinstitute.org/mempool/speculative-attack/)

The kids on the other hand are getting it ... if you over 30 and wedded to the existing structures you'll be roadkill the tech. is advancing that fast now.

You just conveyed how stubborn you are on this issue, and then you accused me of being just as stubborn as yourself. You have been extremely rude and prejudicial towards me in this interaction. You assumed I was a misogynist and a stubborn person with absolutely no reasoning for either conclusion. Please do not be so nasty toward other bitcoiners that you speak with, because the last thing our community needs is a bunch of social justice warriors such as yourself running around.

I stand behind what I've said.  Others can see the discussion here and form their own opinions.


Certainly, and please refrain from making comments about someone's trustworthiness based on their reasonable choice of business attire. 


The world is adopting bitcoin.  The world is made up of all types, (including social justice warriors and misogynists).  Get used to it.  The community is going to include, law enforcement, rapists, politicians, housewives, hookers, children, religious ministers, and more.  You aren't going to be able to keep any particular personality type out of "our community".

Apparently you have no idea how much it hurts the reputation of women in business when a select few of them, such as Perriene Boring, choose to wear clothing that is appropriate for a gourmet dinner but not appropriate for a board room meeting. Sorry, but showing your chest, be it male or female, is absolutely inappropriate in any serious suit-and-tie business arena. Boring is hurting women by dressing like that, and so are you by approving of it. You are also hurting women by making misogyny accusations where they are totally unwarranted. It's the same thing as making false rape accusations and then wondering why people don't take your accusations seriously.

You are encouraging misogyny by severely misusing the term. That makes you a misogynist.

Later on in bitcoin history, we will have all types of people in the community. In the beginning, it is in our best interest to encourage the hateful and bigoted types to stay far away.

Well at least we agree on that.

Where do you come down on short skirts and long leather boots in the boardrooms?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=uV7jFrNH3oA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=uV7jFrNH3oA)

If you do not know what is the most respectable way to dress in the highest echelons of business, two of which being lobbyist and politicians, then that is a problem that you need to educate yourself about. Many women and men are very uncomfortable about showing off their chest area in public, and they should not feel pressured into doing so because a few people decide to dress that way. Whether it be cleavage or macho chest-hair, it is entirely wrong for that setting. This is not an opinion, but a well-known standard that serves to help everybody.

And you can tell by the photo that she was in the middle of a boardroom meeting when it was taken?  That's a wonderful talent if so, because I don't think anyone else can tell that.  And you also know for a fact she wears that exact outfit to every business meeting and never changes?  Must be clairvoyant too.   ::)

Seriously, stop clutching at straws and get off your high horse, please.  Besides that, you don't get to decide what is appropriate attire and what isn't.  It's entirely subjective and will vary from person to person. Just because someone ventures into the world of business, it doesn't mean they suddenly have to change who they are or seek your approval on what they are allowed to wear.  Who do you think you are?  She can wear whatever the hell she likes and if you want to judge someone based on their appearance, your opinion probably isn't worth much in my view.  You clearly stated that she isn't trustworthy based on nothing more than her appearance in a photo that you have no idea where or when it was taken, plus a single conversation with the foundation in which you have no idea what was even said.  Get over yourself.

Again, you lack the experience to know that the picture in that article was something we call a "headshot". It was done by a professional photographer with special lighting in a studio. This is not just some photograph, but it is used to represent a person in business at their highest and most true expression of who they are in their profession. She is attempting to be a lobbyist in Washington DC and wearing attire that is not appropriate in that setting.

By your logic, she would be just as respectable if she wore a bikini to Capital Hill. You need to get off your high horse and submit to the fact that the world has standards of which you are obviously and totally unaware. Go educate yourself on this matter before spewing some ignorant babble again.

Skipping past the part where you're so far up your own arse you think no one knows what a headshot is, you know for a fact this photo was taken for the specific purpose of her new job in lobbying?  Again with the impressive psychic powers.  Her previous job was as a writer, so for all you know, the headshot could have been a remnant from that job.  And even if it was a photo just for that article, it doesn't mean she wears that all the time.  Once again it looks like you just enjoy jumping to baseless conclusions with no evidence.  Please keep telling us how we're all ignorant though, that's not making you look like a presumptuous bellend in the slightest.

When you do any interview for a new business, you give the publication a CURRENT headshot for them to use in the story. You do not, ever, do a round of press interviews for a new business and allow journalists to use some random headshot from any previous job that they decide upon.

The fact that you pretend not to know this is enough to conclude that you are making excuses for her obviously poor dress etiquette. There is also the fact that you said "She can wear whatever she wants" as if I was trying to say all women should not be allowed to dress in certain ways. You are the one making up conclusions about me based on nothing, with no apparent knowledge of the field in which she works.

You're not saying they aren't allowed to dress in certain ways, you're saying they're not trustworthy if they dress in certain ways:


I'm sorry if a couple of people, based on those words, think that makes you sound like a terrible person, but it does.  You're saying because she's showing cleavage in a photo, she's not trustworthy.  Keep trying to distort that if you like, or you could do the decent thing and withdraw the comment.

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Advocate for smart bitcoin regulation in Washington, DC through a three-part strategy combining government relations, media education and grassroots outreach.

I remember that quote standing out a few weeks ago but 18 months seems like a reasonable time frame for regulators to make rules on it.

Boring suggested that she first approached the Bitcoin Foundation with her proposal for the CDC, and that she was encouraged to pursue the project independently.

Didn't know that part so TBF said build it and keep it separate.

You misquoted me completely.

You presented those sentences as if all four of them related to her choice of clothing. Only the last two of those sentences were related at all, and they were, in fact, entirely accurate. Ask any business professional, whether male or female, what they would think of a lobbyist woman showing off cleavage or a lobbyist man showing off chest hair. You will find the same answer, which was my exact response, in both cases.

It is a sign that the person is either ignorant toward the proper dress code for that position, or they know about the code and choose to ignore it on purpose in order to draw attention. Given the fact that Boring is very experienced in this field, the only possible conclusion is the second one. This is a form of manipulation and absolutely indicates the person to be less trustworthy than if they made the proper choice.

You are embarrassing to this entire board, making it look as though bitcoiners (1) don't know about professional dress codes and (2) are willing to have a double-standard in favor of women "wearing whatever they like wherever they like, even a bikini in Congress". You are disgusting, and a dishonest fool. Now, go misquote me on that, too.