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Title: It is time to adjust the fee!
Post by: desticy on July 24, 2014, 08:10:09 AM
I heard many major exchanges will have a big fee structure adjustments programs recently, include bitstamp, bitfinex, lakebtc.

bitstamp've adjusted the deposit fee; btc-e deposit/withdrawal method are very much, but I have not heard the news about btc-e fee.

this seems to be a huge shock by China Exchange landing, expect a lower fee of each exchange.


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the most of exchanges fee and reviews can be saw here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=695082.0


Title: Re: It is time to adjust the fee!
Post by: libivan on July 24, 2014, 08:41:23 AM
As long as the exchange makes enough profits with these new fees to be financially healthy and does not need to run away with my coins, cheaper services are always welcome.

More efficient services always come from a good competition.


Title: Re: It is time to adjust the fee!
Post by: Nrcewker on July 24, 2014, 08:59:28 AM
As long as the exchange makes enough profits with these new fees to be financially healthy and does not need to run away with my coins, cheaper services are always welcome.

More efficient services always come from a good competition.

chinese exchange is coming, I can't imagine that daily trading volume over 100,000 per exchange for several weeks. More, a vicious competition with 0 fee, and its shady trading will be come.

even we can see "OKCoin Wants to Rule the International Bitcoin Exchange Market" on coindesk (http://www.coindesk.com/okcoin-global-strategy-regulation-wall-street/)


Title: Re: It is time to adjust the fee!
Post by: raganius on July 24, 2014, 07:59:02 PM
As long as the exchange makes enough profits with these new fees to be financially healthy and does not need to run away with my coins, cheaper services are always welcome.

More efficient services always come from a good competition.

chinese exchange is coming, I can't imagine that daily trading volume over 100,000 per exchange for several weeks. More, a vicious competition with 0 fee, and its shady trading will be come.

even we can see "OKCoin Wants to Rule the International Bitcoin Exchange Market" on coindesk (http://www.coindesk.com/okcoin-global-strategy-regulation-wall-street/)

A vicious (dumping) competition is never welcome.

Well, I am not a "trader" anyway, so I don't really give much attention to the fees prices: whenever it is possible I tend to give preference to dealing with exchanges from my own country, because in case there are any problems it would be much easier to run for a solution.


Title: Re: It is time to adjust the fee!
Post by: ArbatDeli on July 24, 2014, 08:08:11 PM
Why would exchanges roll out changes at a similar time?


Title: Re: It is time to adjust the fee!
Post by: jjc326 on July 24, 2014, 09:07:35 PM
With a free market, you would think exchanges would always be lowering fees to try to get more customers.  It might take time but it should happen.  We just need more trustworthy exchanges, that's what I think is missing.  Why can't these exchanges get their acts together at the rates they are charging?


Title: Re: It is time to adjust the fee!
Post by: ArbatDeli on July 24, 2014, 09:47:28 PM
With a free market, you would think exchanges would always be lowering fees to try to get more customers.  It might take time but it should happen.  We just need more trustworthy exchanges, that's what I think is missing.  Why can't these exchanges get their acts together at the rates they are charging?

Too bad the western exchanges didn't take one out of China's book and give us 0% fees for some time. :-\


Title: Re: It is time to adjust the fee!
Post by: fonenumba on July 24, 2014, 10:57:53 PM
With a free market, you would think exchanges would always be lowering fees to try to get more customers.  It might take time but it should happen.  We just need more trustworthy exchanges, that's what I think is missing.  Why can't these exchanges get their acts together at the rates they are charging?

Too bad the western exchanges didn't take one out of China's book and give us 0% fees for some time. :-\
The Chinese exchanges either trade with their own funds, and trade against their clients, or are using customer funds for their own expenses (essentially stealing from customers in small amounts over time)


Title: Re: It is time to adjust the fee!
Post by: BTCjust on July 25, 2014, 05:23:01 AM
Why would exchanges roll out changes at a similar time?

since
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chinese exchange is coming


Title: Re: It is time to adjust the fee!
Post by: raganius on July 25, 2014, 10:12:14 AM
With a free market, you would think exchanges would always be lowering fees to try to get more customers.  It might take time but it should happen.  We just need more trustworthy exchanges, that's what I think is missing.  Why can't these exchanges get their acts together at the rates they are charging?

Too bad the western exchanges didn't take one out of China's book and give us 0% fees for some time. :-\
The Chinese exchanges either trade with their own funds, and trade against their clients, or are using customer funds for their own expenses (essentially stealing from customers in small amounts over time)

True...

I do not believe in free services. No one works for free. Two possibilities: dumping or scam (both are not good news, anyway)


Title: Re: It is time to adjust the fee!
Post by: madken7777 on July 25, 2014, 12:31:47 PM
As long as the exchange makes enough profits with these new fees to be financially healthy and does not need to run away with my coins, cheaper services are always welcome.

More efficient services always come from a good competition.

chinese exchange is coming, I can't imagine that daily trading volume over 100,000 per exchange for several weeks. More, a vicious competition with 0 fee, and its shady trading will be come.

even we can see "OKCoin Wants to Rule the International Bitcoin Exchange Market" on coindesk (http://www.coindesk.com/okcoin-global-strategy-regulation-wall-street/)

0% fee model in China will keep fee low across all exchanges.

Too bad RMB is still a blocked currency, if not, they will probably kill all competitors out there.


Title: Re: It is time to adjust the fee!
Post by: Pkuwag on July 28, 2014, 09:25:08 AM
As long as the exchange makes enough profits with these new fees to be financially healthy and does not need to run away with my coins, cheaper services are always welcome.

More efficient services always come from a good competition.

chinese exchange is coming, I can't imagine that daily trading volume over 100,000 per exchange for several weeks. More, a vicious competition with 0 fee, and its shady trading will be come.

even we can see "OKCoin Wants to Rule the International Bitcoin Exchange Market" on coindesk (http://www.coindesk.com/okcoin-global-strategy-regulation-wall-street/)

0% fee model in China will keep fee low across all exchanges.

Too bad RMB is still a blocked currency, if not, they will probably kill all competitors out there.

If it were true, bitcoin will be over.


Title: Re: It is time to adjust the fee!
Post by: nwfella on July 28, 2014, 06:52:05 PM
I suspect that exchange competition will ultimately drive per exchange fee's down to near-0 if not 0 at some point in time (in case of 0 obviously they would have to offer other premium trading services)...charting, stop-loss, optimus prime auto-bot, etc.


Title: Re: It is time to adjust the fee!
Post by: Fioraver on July 29, 2014, 05:03:02 AM
These exchange fee rates have not been adjusted for now?


Title: Re: It is time to adjust the fee!
Post by: Mieehayii on July 29, 2014, 05:57:46 AM
If they want to adjust, then on a little faster, I can not wait for any more


Title: Re: It is time to adjust the fee!
Post by: tinof on July 29, 2014, 06:10:55 AM
Fee is already low compare to a year ago.



Title: Re: It is time to adjust the fee!
Post by: bounst on July 31, 2014, 03:01:15 AM

bitpay also prepared to adjust the fee:
http://blog.bitpay.com/2014/07/29/bitpay-s-new-plan-free-unlimited-forever.html


Title: Re: It is time to adjust the fee!
Post by: blumangroup on August 02, 2014, 08:18:33 PM
With a free market, you would think exchanges would always be lowering fees to try to get more customers.  It might take time but it should happen.  We just need more trustworthy exchanges, that's what I think is missing.  Why can't these exchanges get their acts together at the rates they are charging?

Too bad the western exchanges didn't take one out of China's book and give us 0% fees for some time. :-\
The Chinese exchanges have to make money some how. If they are not charging customers a fee then they are either trading against them (with inside information), somehow enlarging the bid/ask spread, or simply taking part of customers' deposits. Regardless of what they are doing they are making money in a much less transparent way then other exchanges.


Title: Re: It is time to adjust the fee!
Post by: titulng on August 05, 2014, 03:07:03 AM
Many non-mainstream exchanges had started to adjust the fee, you can see the discussion on reddit.com/r/BitcoinMarkets.

but the big four bitcoin exchange, bitstamp, btc-e, bitfinex, lakebtc, no action now


Title: Re: It is time to adjust the fee!
Post by: GreenCoin22 on August 07, 2014, 07:47:17 AM
From the date of your posting has two weeks later, why has not yet appeared.


Title: Re: It is time to adjust the fee!
Post by: rohnearner on August 07, 2014, 09:41:01 AM
BTC-e has recently cut down their withdraw fees to Perfect money to 0% and USD deposit through Perfect money is now 7% which was at 3% before, also they have removed egopay from the deposit list but you can still withdraw to egopay with 0% fee.
 Can't understand where they are heading with all this.


Title: Re: It is time to adjust the fee!
Post by: Jamacn on August 08, 2014, 02:43:06 AM
Perfect Money on BTC-e is not real lower, fee 7% is very very high!
BTC-e has recently cut down their withdraw fees to Perfect money to 0% and USD deposit through Perfect money is now 7% which was at 3% before, also they have removed egopay from the deposit list but you can still withdraw to egopay with 0% fee.
 Can't understand where they are heading with all this.


Title: Re: It is time to adjust the fee!
Post by: Shen yingying on August 08, 2014, 01:13:14 PM
As long as I think  the exchange makes big profits ..


Title: Re: It is time to adjust the fee!
Post by: rohnearner on August 08, 2014, 07:23:19 PM
Perfect Money on BTC-e is not real lower, fee 7% is very very high!
BTC-e has recently cut down their withdraw fees to Perfect money to 0% and USD deposit through Perfect money is now 7% which was at 3% before, also they have removed egopay from the deposit list but you can still withdraw to egopay with 0% fee.
 Can't understand where they are heading with all this.
I never said its on lower side now..! before the 7% deposit fee there was 3% deposit fee and 1.5% withdrawal fee to perfect money in total 3%+1.5%=4.5% fee which is for sure 2.5% lower than what its now.


Title: Re: It is time to adjust the fee!
Post by: Inotanewbie on August 09, 2014, 10:47:00 AM
BTC-e has recently cut down their withdraw fees to Perfect money to 0% and USD deposit through Perfect money is now 7% which was at 3% before, also they have removed egopay from the deposit list but you can still withdraw to egopay with 0% fee.
 Can't understand where they are heading with all this.
What are the costs associated with sending perfect money? Is it something that is very time intensive? I think 7% is a little excessive.


Title: Re: It is time to adjust the fee!
Post by: Hiraga on August 09, 2014, 10:56:46 AM
Everything should be free, everyone should give and it should be an honor to serve others for free. I vote: no more fee's, no more fee's.


Title: Re: It is time to adjust the fee!
Post by: PrimevalLeviathan on August 09, 2014, 01:05:45 PM
i agree with u!


Title: Re: It is time to adjust the fee!
Post by: joeventyra on August 09, 2014, 03:06:42 PM
Everything should be free, everyone should give and it should be an honor to serve others for free. I vote: no more fee's, no more fee's.

Everything free is a nice idea but it's not applicable anytime soon unfortunately.


Title: Re: It is time to adjust the fee!
Post by: Nawaytes on August 11, 2014, 04:48:05 PM
each exchanger must be profitable, whatever the fee that they use.
because every day there are thousands of transactions.
so they are not going to make the trader away from their exchanger by applying high fee.


Title: Re: It is time to adjust the fee!
Post by: Nrcewker on August 12, 2014, 04:12:01 AM
each exchanger must be profitable, whatever the fee that they use.
because every day there are thousands of transactions.
so they are not going to make the trader away from their exchanger by applying high fee.

but Kraken making their fee higher  >:(