Bitcoin Forum

Alternate cryptocurrencies => Announcements (Altcoins) => Topic started by: bitfreak! on July 28, 2014, 01:01:55 AM



Title: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: bitfreak! on July 28, 2014, 01:01:55 AM

NEW THREAD HERE (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1801595)
WWW.CRYPTONITE.INFO (http://cryptonite.info)

DOWNLOAD (http://cryptonite.info/?page=download)
WIKI (http://cryptonite.info/wiki/)
SOURCE (https://github.com/MiniblockchainProject/Cryptonite/)

Introduction

Cryptonite (also known as Crypton) is the first crypto-currency to implement the mini-blockchain scheme (http://cryptonite.info/wiki/index.php?title=Mini-blockchain_scheme) along with many other innovative features (http://cryptonite.info/?page=features). Our goal was to create a truly scalable cryptocurrency which combined many of the best ideas developed within the alt-coin community and some of our own innovative ideas. The basic philosophy of Cryptonite is to follow the ideals set by Bitcoin as closely as possible but improve upon everything that could be improved.

Cryptonite was developed by the Mini-blockchain Project (http://cryptonite.info/?page=mbc-project) over a period of almost four months. Cryptonite is a fork of the Bitcoin core but the code has been extensively modified and expanded upon. It seems that the altcoin community is experiencing a torrential flood of clone-coins right now and it is not our goal to add to that pile of useless altcoins. Our goal was to create something truly new, innovative, and useful to the cryptocurrency community.

The altcoin community should be about innovation, not a select few people making a quick buck. Our goal was to break out of that greed driven trend. Cryptonite had no pre-mine, no IPO, the difficulty adjustment algorithm is designed to adapt quickly and prevent instamines, the coins are distributed fairly over a long period of time (half mined after 10 years), we did over a month of public beta testing (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=643758) before release along with a week early pre-announcement (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703406).

Brief Overview

Mini-Blockchain

Cryptonite is the first implementation of the light weight mini-blockchain scheme (http://cryptonite.info/wiki/index.php?title=Mini-blockchain_scheme). Nodes will never again spend days synchronizing with the network and the average user will not have to fear becoming a full node. This is possible because of our decentralized balance sheet approach (http://cryptonite.info/wiki/index.php?title=Account_tree).

Innovative Ideas

Cryptonite combines many great ideas developed by the altcoin community and also includes several novel features not seen in another cryptocurrency until now. Two innovative features which help improve security and trust are unmalleable transactions (http://cryptonite.info/wiki/index.php?title=Transaction_signing#Removing_Transaction_Malleability) and withdrawal limits (http://cryptonite.info/wiki/index.php?title=Withdrawal_limits).

Smart Adaptation

Cryptonite achieves smart coin distribution (http://cryptonite.info/wiki/index.php?title=Coinbase_account#Smart_Coin_Distribution) by adjusting the difficulty and the block reward every block, adapting quickly to changes and providing smoother transitions. The dynamic max block size (http://cryptonite.info/wiki/index.php?title=Dynamic_max_block_size) mechanism ensures that the transaction capacity of the network naturally grows over time.

Future Proofed

Cryptonite has an unparalleled potential for scalability and transaction capacity. The total coin supply has a full 64 bits of granularity (http://cryptonite.info/wiki/index.php?title=Coinbase_account#64_bits_of_Granularity), the nonce and the timestamp have also been increased to 64 bits. The M7 PoW algorithm (http://cryptonite.info/wiki/index.php?title=M7_PoW) uses multiple cryptographically secure hashing algorithms.

Micro-Transactions

Cryptonite has superior support for micro-transactions (http://cryptonite.info/wiki/index.php?title=Advantages_and_potential#Micro-Transactions) because we don't have to worry about keeping any so called "dust" in the blockchain forever. Since blockchain bloat is not a problem, blocks can be larger and we can encourage the use of custom transaction messages (http://cryptonite.info/wiki/index.php?title=Advantages_and_potential#Transaction_Messages).

Multi-Sig Support

Cryptonite has full native support for multi-signature transactions (http://cryptonite.info/wiki/index.php?title=Multi-signature_transactions), which require multiple parties to sign a transaction with different keys before it is considered valid. Multi-sig transactions are useful in many real world situations, especially for consumer protection and escrow schemes.

Specifications

- Block time: 1 per minute
- Block reward: changes every block (half life of 10 years)
- Max block size: changes every block (100 block average * 2)
- Difficulty adjustment: changes every block (1000 block filter)
- Coin supply: 2^64-1 units (http://cryptonite.info/wiki/index.php?title=Coinbase_account#64_bits_of_Granularity) (1.84 billion coins, 10 dec places)
- Mining algorithm: M7 PoW (http://cryptonite.info/wiki/index.php?title=M7_PoW)
- Coin Maturity: instant
- Pre-mine: none

Usage

See the wiki for information on the Cryptonite API:
http://cryptonite.info/wiki/index.php?title=Cryptonite_API

Use the setgenerate command or one of these miners:

Standalone CPU Miner (https://github.com/MiniblockchainProject/Minerd)
Cuda GPU Miner (https://github.com/MiniblockchainProject/CudaMiner)

Check here for pre-compiled cuda miner binaries for Win64:
dropbox.com/sh/56lnq52g4gny0m0/AADMJa2QTMSSc4g9gx1BfWIla (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/56lnq52g4gny0m0/AADMJa2QTMSSc4g9gx1BfWIla)

Check here for djm34's ccminer Windows binaries:
cudaMiner & ccMiner CUDA based mining applications (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=167229)

Check here for the Claymore AMD GPU Miner:
Claymore Cryptonite (XCN) GPU Miner (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=774601)

FAQ/Troubleshooting

See this very informative post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=713538.msg8196634#msg8196634) written by watuba.

Also see this page: www.cryptonite.info/?page=faq

Community

IRC: #cryptonite on freenode (http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=cryptonite)
Twitter: https://twitter.com/CryptoniteCoin
Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Cryptonite
Wiki: http://cryptonite.info/wiki/
Code: https://github.com/MiniblockchainProject/

Services

Exchanges

Bter: www.bter.com (https://bter.com/trade/XCN_BTC)
btc38: www.btc38.com (http://www.btc38.com/trade_en.html?mk_type=btc&btc38_trade_coin_name=xcn)
C-CEX: www.c-cex.com (https://c-cex.com/?p=xcn-btc)
Poloniex: www.poloniex.com (https://poloniex.com/exchange/btc_xcn)
BX: www.bx.in.th (https://bx.in.th/BTC/XCN/)

Pools

1GH XCN Pool: xcn.1gh.com (http://xcn.1gh.com/)
TheBlocksFactory: xcn.theblocksfactory.com (http://xcn.theblocksfactory.com/)
Nonce-Pool: xcn.nonce-pool.com (http://xcn.nonce-pool.com/)
Suprnova Pool: xcn.suprnova.cc (https://xcn.suprnova.cc/)

Block Explorers

Official Explorer: explorer.cryptonite.info (http://explorer.cryptonite.info)

Free XCN

XCN Faucet: xcnfaucet.com (http://www.xcnfaucet.com/)

Merchants

Bitcoinshop: bitscoinshop.com.br (http://bitscoinshop.com.br) (instructions (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=713538.msg9124729#msg9124729))

Media

letstalkbitcoin.com: Beyond Bitcoin Ep 18: Cryptonite (http://letstalkbitcoin.com/blog/post/beyond-bitcoin-18-cryptonite)
CoinsSource.com: Interview With The Founder of Cryptonite (http://www.coinssource.com/interview-with-the-founder-cryptonite/)
Cryptonite: The First Mini-Blockchain, Withdrawal Limiting & More (http://www.coinssource.com/cryptonite-the-first-mini-blockchain/)

More Detail

Mini-blockchain Scheme

Cryptonite is the first implementation of the mini-blockchain scheme, a scheme designed for maximum scalability, achieved by addressing the problem of blockchain bloat and providing a solution which allows all old transactions to be forgotten by the network after they become old enough. This allows new nodes to synchronize with the network extremely quickly and allows existing nodes to free up disk space by deleting old transactions. As a result of this scheme the network doesn't need to become increasingly centralized only by nodes capable of handling the full blockchain, so mining can remain more decentralized.

Micro-transactions & Messages

Thanks to the mini-blockchain scheme Cryptonite has superior support for micro-transactions and custom transaction messages attached to transactions. In Bitcoin and other altcoins where the full blockchain is required to synchronize with the network, small value transactions and transaction messages tend to be discouraged because they cause "blockchain bloat". The scalable nature of the mini-blockchain scheme relieves us from the concern of blockchain bloat and we can have full support for transaction messages and micro-transactions because nodes don't need to store transactions forever.

Withdrawal Limits

Cryptonite is the first altcoin to feature withdrawal limits, allowing users to set a limit on how many coins they can send from an address in one block. This is useful because it helps to prevent double spending and increases confidence in low-confirmation transactions. If a merchant can see that the withdrawal limit on an address prevents it from being emptied in a small number of blocks they can have much more confidence in any transactions sent to them from that address, even without any confirmations at all. So the main advantage of withdrawal limits is that 0-confirmation transactions become safer in the right conditions.

Unmalleable Transactions

If the claims of Mt. Gox and other businesses are to be believed, transaction malleability has caused quite a bit of damage to the Bitcoin economy. Of course even if that's the true reason why Mt. Gox went out of business, it's still their fault for not understanding transaction malleability when it was well known about for a long time. Cryptonite is the first altcoin to feature unmalleable transactions, in order to avoid any repeat of such undesirable events and allow the transaction ID's to be reliable. This is achieved by having the sender sign the txid and by ensuring the txid will always change when the contents of the transaction changes.

Donations

Development / Marketing Donations:

XCN: CcFE7EWRuBVe4FrJoVJyEeW5GvZZ4spNqN
BTC: 15XvdRtPpon1wxx4SeNbR4WZtU5mdE8A5S


Important Info

There is a bug in the Qt wallet which can cause the sync process to get stuck at 7 days behind. When the sync process becomes stuck at 7 days behind the wallet.dat file may become corrupted upon shutting down Qt. In some cases the corrupted wallet file will be recoverable but in other cases it may not be. It is highly recommended to make a backup of your private keys or your entire wallet file if you own any XCN. If you experience the "7 day bug" you will probably have to delete everything in your data directory except your wallet.dat file (restore backup if corrupted) and then do a fresh sync.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: Vorksholk on July 28, 2014, 01:02:31 AM
Very promising coin, throwing some cloud power. :)


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: djm34 on July 28, 2014, 01:04:47 AM
so an ETA (enough time to go to the toilet, to recompile, etc ?)


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: xinweiwei on July 28, 2014, 01:05:54 AM
How to mine? :)


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: ThatDandyMan on July 28, 2014, 01:06:41 AM
I've gotten four eight blocks and counting. Woot!

The net hashrate is kinda high now. Good luck in finding blocks!


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: ThatDandyMan on July 28, 2014, 01:07:41 AM
How to mine? :)

Open wallet's  console and type 'setgenerate true -1'


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: McNulty on July 28, 2014, 01:08:01 AM
windows wallet indicate a test version, is it normal ?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: djm34 on July 28, 2014, 01:10:00 AM
windows wallet indicate a test version, is it normal ?
yes me too


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: shadowduck on July 28, 2014, 01:10:37 AM
where's the source code?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: GreekBitcoin on July 28, 2014, 01:10:46 AM
error while loading shared libraries: libboost_system.so.1.53.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: djm34 on July 28, 2014, 01:12:15 AM
error while loading shared libraries: libboost_system.so.1.53.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

you need to download the dll too...
the source please


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: WilderX on July 28, 2014, 01:12:54 AM
DEV the downloaded files what format are they? can't open says unknown format or damaged...


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: cubydu on July 28, 2014, 01:13:37 AM
Source pls


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: Primitive on July 28, 2014, 01:14:46 AM
also - ive been running since the start on windows and no blocks.  worried there's a windows issue.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: GreekBitcoin on July 28, 2014, 01:15:16 AM
error while loading shared libraries: libboost_system.so.1.53.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory

you need to download the dll too...
the source please

i use Ubuntu 13.10 or 14.04 and i have libboost 1.55 installed


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: prix on July 28, 2014, 01:15:46 AM
also - ive been running since the start on windows and no blocks.  worried there's a windows issue.
I mined 1 block on Win.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: helloword2013 on July 28, 2014, 01:15:51 AM
hi dev ,
could you give the time of xcn lanuch?
the win wallet which you link here is test version


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: ajeef on July 28, 2014, 01:16:45 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Btl--VpCIAALWMj.jpg:large


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: prix on July 28, 2014, 01:17:33 AM
DEV the downloaded files what format are they? can't open says unknown format or damaged...
Windows? You should add ".exe" extension.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: McNulty on July 28, 2014, 01:19:16 AM
windows wallet works...


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: xinweiwei on July 28, 2014, 01:19:49 AM
How to mine? :)

Open wallet's  console and type 'setgenerate true -1'
Hi,brother,what is different cryptonite-qt and cryptonited?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: myagui on July 28, 2014, 01:21:23 AM
(crossposting from the pre-ann thread)

Out of curiosity for the mini blockchain implementation, I'm running this on a single i7.
Notes of interest: Blocks go straight to available, did not see any 'pending' (or immature) state time at all. Perhaps this will require a fix/relaunch/jump-off-a-bridge-type, something off, or it's just me?
Minor typo: The dialog that appears at bottom-right corner when you find a block (Win-x64), is titled: Bitcoin - Incoming transaction. Would be lovely to have incoming transactions of ~243 bitcoins to my wallet  Grin

Happy mining!
~ Myagui


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: KeyserSozeMC on July 28, 2014, 01:21:31 AM
Just downloaded wallet.

Gonna stick around to this, got a good feeling.

Good luck!

EDIT: Getting error. dll's missing.

W7, x64, i7


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: provenceday on July 28, 2014, 01:22:15 AM
node Please???


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: ajeef on July 28, 2014, 01:22:45 AM
node??????


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: youknowthat on July 28, 2014, 01:24:11 AM
did't know how to mine ....no cpu and gpu tool


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: ZantLand on July 28, 2014, 01:24:25 AM
canīt  find  net!



Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: Coindgr on July 28, 2014, 01:24:32 AM
Wallet nodes go on and off all the time.

I'm in block no. 3 and all mined by miself... forked... I'm not synced, something wrong.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: provenceday on July 28, 2014, 01:26:01 AM
canīt  find  net!



same here,   more node Please???

anybody share the getpeerinfo????


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: prix on July 28, 2014, 01:26:17 AM
node Please???
From getpeerinfo:
Code:
66.45.239.67:8253
80.11.70.97:8253
24.84.227.184:8253
24.130.14.88:8253
37.187.229.12:8253
121.99.88.141:8253
188.252.234.97:8253
82.32.195.63:8253


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: helloword2013 on July 28, 2014, 01:26:55 AM
who can tell meubuntu 14.04  how to  compile the source code


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: Burninj on July 28, 2014, 01:28:18 AM
We need an amd gpu miner!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: bitfreak! on July 28, 2014, 01:28:59 AM
Ok the source code should be up now. And for those using Windows you'll need to add the .exe extension to the file and you'll need the dll files if using qt (can't remember if cryptonited requires any dll's).

And also don't mind the pre-release warning, we just forgot to remove it.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: Primitive on July 28, 2014, 01:31:02 AM
Ok the source code should be up now. And for those using Windows you'll need to add the .exe extension to the file.

And also don't mind the pre-release warning, we just forgot to remove it.

how can i reset and re-download the blockchain without having to lose the coins i've mined?  i think i forked somehow.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: vedran82 on July 28, 2014, 01:31:42 AM
Wow. Is this difficulty correct?

{
"blocks" : 181,
"currentblocksize" : 1000,
"currentblocktx" : 0,
"difficulty" : 905.77428950,
"errors" : "This is a pre-release test build - use at your own risk - do not use for mining or merchant applications",
"genproclimit" : 7,
"networkhashps" : 40537730,
"pooledtx" : 0,
"testnet" : false,
"generate" : true,
"hashespersec" : 285211
}


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: cubydu on July 28, 2014, 01:32:01 AM
Ubuntu 14.04 64
Quote
make -C ../src liblmdb/liblmdb.a
make[4]: Entering directory `/home/ubuntu/Cryptonite/src'
Building LMDB ...
make[5]: Entering directory `/home/ubuntu/Cryptonite/src/liblmdb'
make[5]: *** No rule to make target `liblmdb.a'.  Stop.
make[5]: Leaving directory `/home/ubuntu/Cryptonite/src/liblmdb'
make[4]: *** [liblmdb/liblmdb.a] Error 2
make[4]: Leaving directory `/home/ubuntu/Cryptonite/src'
make[3]: *** [../src/liblmdb/liblmdb.a] Error 2



Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: hankrules on July 28, 2014, 01:33:57 AM
is there a make file missing in Cryptonite/src/liblmdb/ ?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: ajeef on July 28, 2014, 01:34:28 AM
working fine now!


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: bitfreak! on July 28, 2014, 01:34:36 AM
how can i reset and re-download the blockchain without having to lose the coins i've mined?  i think i forked somehow.
If you're talking about the testnet coins you mined in the test thread you can't recover them. The real thing is now.

Wow. Is this difficulty correct?
Yep.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: cubydu on July 28, 2014, 01:36:00 AM
Can't make, ubuntu 14.04
Code:
Making all in src
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/ubuntu/Cryptonite/src'
make  all-recursive
make[2]: Entering directory `/home/ubuntu/Cryptonite/src'
Making all in .
make[3]: Entering directory `/home/ubuntu/Cryptonite/src'
make -C ../src liblmdb/liblmdb.a
make[4]: Entering directory `/home/ubuntu/Cryptonite/src'
Building LMDB ...
make[5]: Entering directory `/home/ubuntu/Cryptonite/src/liblmdb'
make[5]: *** No rule to make target `liblmdb.a'.  Stop.
make[5]: Leaving directory `/home/ubuntu/Cryptonite/src/liblmdb'
make[4]: *** [liblmdb/liblmdb.a] Error 2
make[4]: Leaving directory `/home/ubuntu/Cryptonite/src'
make[3]: *** [../src/liblmdb/liblmdb.a] Error 2
make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/ubuntu/Cryptonite/src'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/ubuntu/Cryptonite/src'
make[1]: *** [all] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/ubuntu/Cryptonite/src'
make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
ubuntu@ip-10-0-0-78:~/Cryptonite$


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: ajeef on July 28, 2014, 01:36:57 AM
block 211  right?or fork?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: Primitive on July 28, 2014, 01:37:09 AM

If you're talking about the testnet coins you mined in the test thread you can't recover them. The real thing is now.

no - i was mining, seemed to have mined 3 blocks.  and now there seems to be a network problem, showing 0 active connections and not showing block height.

so i think somethings wrong.  i just dont want to lose any blocks i legitimately earned, but i think i might have to reinstall the QT


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: DonQuijote on July 28, 2014, 01:38:10 AM
Quote
{
    "version" : 10100,
    "protocolversion" : 10000,
    "walletversion" : 10000,
    "balance" : "0.0000000000ep",
    "blocks" : 217,
    "headers" : 217,
    "timeoffset" : 0,
    "connections" : 8,
    "proxy" : "",
    "difficulty" : 1244.29648076,
    "testnet" : false,
    "keypoololdest" : 1406509430,
    "keypoolsize" : 101,
    "paytxfee" : "0.0000001000ep",
    "relayfee" : "0.0000001000ep",
    "errors" : "This is a pre-release test build - use at your own risk - do not use for mining or merchant applications"
}
Today at 01:38:10


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: idev on July 28, 2014, 01:40:06 AM
Has my node been banned  ???
Code:
Finalize Node
Finalize Node
Finalize Node
Finalize Node
Finalize Node
Finalize Node
Finalize Node
Finalize Node
Finalize Node
Finalize Node
Finalize Node
Finalize Node
Finalize Node
Finalize Node
Finalize Node
Finalize Node
Finalize Node
Finalize Node
Finalize Node
Finalize Node
Finalize Node
Finalize Node


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: uvt9 on July 28, 2014, 01:42:48 AM
Has my node been banned  ???

same here. Windows QT doesn't sync.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: tacee on July 28, 2014, 01:48:46 AM
This is a pre-release test build - use at your own risk - do not use for mining or merchant applications

we are downloading a still a  pre-release test build????


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: SolarFox on July 28, 2014, 01:50:30 AM
addnode=209.89.155.70:8253
addnode=60.7.110.116:8253
addnode=24.130.14.88:8253
addnode=14.209.49.147:8253
addnode=98.143.148.83:8253
addnode=24.84.227.184:8253
addnode=188.252.234.97:8253
addnode=66.45.239.67:8253


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: DonQuijote on July 28, 2014, 01:52:03 AM
ubuntu source dont mine...
Im mining since block number 90 with 4 ubuntu vps and i havent got some block...
In 15 min. with i3 i have 2 blocks (win)


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: djm34 on July 28, 2014, 01:56:35 AM
trying to connect a miner to the wallet,I get json_rpc_call failed


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: ajeef on July 28, 2014, 01:57:35 AM
trying to connect a miner to the wallet,I get json_rpc_call failed
GPU?????


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: DonQuijote on July 28, 2014, 01:58:14 AM
trying to connect a miner to the wallet,I get json_rpc_call failed
GPU?????
djm34 is a GOD
https://github.com/djm34/


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: dr_chen on July 28, 2014, 01:58:36 AM
trying to connect a miner to the wallet,I get json_rpc_call failed
any nodes?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: cubydu on July 28, 2014, 01:58:49 AM
can't build from source. Ubuntu 14.04
Code:
make[4]: Entering directory `/home/stas/DEV/Coins/Cryptonite/src'
Building LMDB ...
make[5]: Entering directory `/home/stas/DEV/Coins/Cryptonite/src/liblmdb'
make[5]: *** No rule to make target `liblmdb.a'.  Stop.
make[5]: Leaving directory `/home/stas/DEV/Coins/Cryptonite/src/liblmdb'
make[4]: *** [liblmdb/liblmdb.a] Error 2
make[4]: Leaving directory `/home/stas/DEV/Coins/Cryptonite/src'
make[3]: *** [../src/liblmdb/liblmdb.a] Error 2
make[3]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/stas/DEV/Coins/Cryptonite/src'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/stas/DEV/Coins/Cryptonite/src'
make[1]: *** [all] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/stas/DEV/Coins/Cryptonite/src'
make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: xibeijan on July 28, 2014, 01:59:04 AM
Boo. Wheezy builds show "This is a pre-release test build"...


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: xibeijan on July 28, 2014, 01:59:18 AM
can't build from source. Ubuntu 14.04
Code:
make[4]: Entering directory `/home/stas/DEV/Coins/Cryptonite/src'
Building LMDB ...
make[5]: Entering directory `/home/stas/DEV/Coins/Cryptonite/src/liblmdb'
make[5]: *** No rule to make target `liblmdb.a'.  Stop.
make[5]: Leaving directory `/home/stas/DEV/Coins/Cryptonite/src/liblmdb'
make[4]: *** [liblmdb/liblmdb.a] Error 2
make[4]: Leaving directory `/home/stas/DEV/Coins/Cryptonite/src'
make[3]: *** [../src/liblmdb/liblmdb.a] Error 2
make[3]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/stas/DEV/Coins/Cryptonite/src'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/stas/DEV/Coins/Cryptonite/src'
make[1]: *** [all] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/stas/DEV/Coins/Cryptonite/src'
make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1

Same issue here.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: djm34 on July 28, 2014, 01:59:26 AM
trying to connect a miner to the wallet,I get json_rpc_call failed
GPU?????
djm34 is a GOD
https://github.com/djm34/
I am trying to connect "something", it could be a air dryer.... ;D
and it fails

edit: and this air dryer, may or may not work... but right now it doesn't want to connect


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: hankrules on July 28, 2014, 01:59:46 AM
can't build from source. Ubuntu 14.04
Code:
make[4]: Entering directory `/home/stas/DEV/Coins/Cryptonite/src'
Building LMDB ...
make[5]: Entering directory `/home/stas/DEV/Coins/Cryptonite/src/liblmdb'
make[5]: *** No rule to make target `liblmdb.a'.  Stop.
make[5]: Leaving directory `/home/stas/DEV/Coins/Cryptonite/src/liblmdb'
make[4]: *** [liblmdb/liblmdb.a] Error 2
make[4]: Leaving directory `/home/stas/DEV/Coins/Cryptonite/src'
make[3]: *** [../src/liblmdb/liblmdb.a] Error 2
make[3]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/stas/DEV/Coins/Cryptonite/src'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/stas/DEV/Coins/Cryptonite/src'
make[1]: *** [all] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/stas/DEV/Coins/Cryptonite/src'
make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1

Same issue here.

here too.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: helloword2013 on July 28, 2014, 02:00:24 AM
./autogen.sh
./configure
~/Cryptonite# make
make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
why ?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: catia on July 28, 2014, 02:05:43 AM
edit: and this air dryer, may or may not work... but right now it doesn't want to connect

getwork or getblocktemplate?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: Hix on July 28, 2014, 02:06:43 AM
This critical error to mine?
Code:
configure: error: Found Berkeley DB other than 4.8, required for portable wallets (--with-incompatible-bdb to ignore


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: helloword2013 on July 28, 2014, 02:09:55 AM
This critical error to mine?
Code:
configure: error: Found Berkeley DB other than 4.8, required for portable wallets (--with-incompatible-bdb to ignore
me too,


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: WilderX on July 28, 2014, 02:10:44 AM
Ok the source code should be up now. And for those using Windows you'll need to add the .exe extension to the file and you'll need the dll files if using qt (can't remember if cryptonited requires any dll's).

And also don't mind the pre-release warning, we just forgot to remove it.

Hey dev what is going on I have like 8 wallets running and mining and now suddenly they are all 0 balance and all mined transactions say "generated but not accepted" and they were already in confirmed state so what the hell? Did we just fork or what?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: djm34 on July 28, 2014, 02:11:28 AM
edit: and this air dryer, may or may not work... but right now it doesn't want to connect

getwork or getblocktemplate?
I am not sure, must be getwork


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: bybitcoin on July 28, 2014, 02:12:01 AM
May I type 'setgenerate true -4' in a core i7 win64 machine?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: bitfreak! on July 28, 2014, 02:12:20 AM
@tacee : like I just mentioned, we forgot to remove the warning, it's fine to mine.

And for those people having issues with the Windows binaries, we are looking into it.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: DonQuijote on July 28, 2014, 02:13:55 AM
@tacee : like I just mentioned, we forgot to remove the warning, it's fine to mine.

And for those people having issues with the Windows binaries, we are looking into it.
And ubuntu issues?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: uvt9 on July 28, 2014, 02:15:50 AM

And for those people having issues with the Windows binaries, we are looking into it.

i'm getting stuck in both Windows Qt and linux binaries, they do not sync at all. Tried adding above nodes.

source doesn't build.

what could be reason ?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: prix on July 28, 2014, 02:23:07 AM
I mined 3 blocks on right chain and now have forked: > 10 orphans for last 1 minute and current height is 565.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: ajeef on July 28, 2014, 02:23:54 AM
wtf?block so fast???


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: DonQuijote on July 28, 2014, 02:24:23 AM

And for those people having issues with the Windows binaries, we are looking into it.

i'm getting stuck in both Windows Qt and linux binaries, they do not sync at all. Tried adding above nodes.

source doesn't build.

what could be reason ?
Devs are premining
All works fine for them


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: syyyn on July 28, 2014, 02:24:43 AM
Yea net hash just dropped and the connections did. I just mined 20 blocks and balance keeps going up then GONE.  


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: sxh on July 28, 2014, 02:25:23 AM
Forked.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: syyyn on July 28, 2014, 02:26:24 AM
Forked.


That didn't take long. Bye bye Cryptonite.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: provenceday on July 28, 2014, 02:27:33 AM
Forked.

forked???

which block are we at now???


i am at 865???


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: Hix on July 28, 2014, 02:27:46 AM
@tacee : like I just mentioned, we forgot to remove the warning, it's fine to mine.

And for those people having issues with the Windows binaries, we are looking into it.
CAN you give working nodes???


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: ajeef on July 28, 2014, 02:28:08 AM
Forked.

forked???

which block are we at now???


so fast 870


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: provenceday on July 28, 2014, 02:28:43 AM

yes same here!!!


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: yaks on July 28, 2014, 02:29:13 AM
Can Anybody explain what generated but not accepting means?
Also, can somebody post a working .conf file please?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: DonQuijote on July 28, 2014, 02:29:33 AM
Quote
{
    "version" : 10100,
    "protocolversion" : 10000,
    "walletversion" : 10000,
    "balance" : "0.0000000000ep",
    "blocks" : 462,
    "headers" : 462,
    "timeoffset" : -1,
    "connections" : 5,
    "proxy" : "",
    "difficulty" : 4544.91884878,
    "testnet" : false,
    "keypoololdest" : 1406509520,
    "keypoolsize" : 101,
    "paytxfee" : "0.0000001000ep",
    "relayfee" : "0.0000001000ep",
    "errors" : "This is a pre-release test build - use at your own risk - do not use for mining or merchant applications"
}
???


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: canonsburg on July 28, 2014, 02:30:02 AM
Something's not right. Blocks are being generated much too fast.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: bitfreak! on July 28, 2014, 02:30:19 AM
Yeah folks it looks like there is some sort of serious forking going on atm, it's not exactly clear what is happening but it doesn't look too good. I would recommend to only use the linux builds for the moment until we are able to resolve the issue, although that might not have anything to do with the problem.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: WilderX on July 28, 2014, 02:30:23 AM
Can Anybody explain what generated but not accepting means?
Also, can somebody post a working .conf file please?

it means coin forks.. code don't work.. scrap it back to the drawing boards.. bye bye


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: provenceday on July 28, 2014, 02:30:27 AM


check point Please???


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: belief on July 28, 2014, 02:30:58 AM
so many problems ,no dll. file, how to get this file ???


OK ,I have got the dll file ,where to put in it.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: ajeef on July 28, 2014, 02:31:08 AM
{
    "version" : 10100,
    "protocolversion" : 10000,
    "walletversion" : 10000,
    "balance" : "0.0000000000ep",
    "blocks" : 462,
    "headers" : 462,
    "timeoffset" : -1,
    "connections" : 5,
    "proxy" : "",
    "difficulty" : 4544.91884878,
    "testnet" : false,
    "keypoololdest" : 1406509520,
    "keypoolsize" : 101,
    "paytxfee" : "0.0000001000ep",
    "relayfee" : "0.0000001000ep",
    "errors" : "This is a pre-release test build - use at your own risk - do not use for mining or merchant applications"
}

{
"blocks" : 1026,
"currentblocksize" : 1000,
"currentblocktx" : 0,
"difficulty" : 24128.42608766,
"errors" : "��\u0099�\u0098���\u008B��\u0095�\u0094��\u009A\u0084��\u0084�\u008F\u0091��\u0083�\u0089\u0088�\u009C� - 请谨�\u0085\u008E使�\u0094� - ��\u008D��\u0081�\u0094��\u009D��\u008C\u0096�\u009F���\u008C�\u0088\u0096�\u0080\u0085�\u009C�正��\u008F�\u0095\u0086�\u0094��\u008E���\u0083��\u008B使�\u0094�",
"genproclimit" : 7,
"networkhashps" : 1006829,
"pooledtx" : 0,
"testnet" : false,
"generate" : true,
"hashespersec" : 671850


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: DonQuijote on July 28, 2014, 02:31:10 AM
Yeah folks it looks like there is some sort of serious forking going on atm, it's not exactly clear what is happening but it doesn't look too good. I would recommend to only use the linux builds for the moment until we are able to resolve the issue.
Linux build DONT mine


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: McNulty on July 28, 2014, 02:31:37 AM
1060 blocks here


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: uvt9 on July 28, 2014, 02:31:47 AM
so fast 870

really ? i can't even get synced to see what's happening.
we're supposed to have only 90 blocks now with 1min block, if we got forked, should dev re-launch ?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: sxh on July 28, 2014, 02:31:58 AM

i have 1003


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: WilderX on July 28, 2014, 02:32:00 AM
Yeah folks it looks like there is some sort of serious forking going on atm, it's not exactly clear what is happening but it doesn't look too good. I would recommend to only use the linux builds for the moment until we are able to resolve the issue.

Re-launch when issue is fixed


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: DonQuijote on July 28, 2014, 02:32:24 AM
{
    "version" : 10100,
    "protocolversion" : 10000,
    "walletversion" : 10000,
    "balance" : "0.0000000000ep",
    "blocks" : 462,
    "headers" : 462,
    "timeoffset" : -1,
    "connections" : 5,
    "proxy" : "",
    "difficulty" : 4544.91884878,
    "testnet" : false,
    "keypoololdest" : 1406509520,
    "keypoolsize" : 101,
    "paytxfee" : "0.0000001000ep",
    "relayfee" : "0.0000001000ep",
    "errors" : "This is a pre-release test build - use at your own risk - do not use for mining or merchant applications"
}

{
"blocks" : 1026,
"currentblocksize" : 1000,
"currentblocktx" : 0,
"difficulty" : 24128.42608766,
"errors" : "��\u0099�\u0098���\u008B��\u0095�\u0094��\u009A\u0084��\u0084�\u008F\u0091��\u0083�\u0089\u0088�\u009C� - 请谨�\u0085\u008E使�\u0094� - ��\u008D��\u0081�\u0094��\u009D��\u008C\u0096�\u009F���\u008C�\u0088\u0096�\u0080\u0085�\u009C�正��\u008F�\u0095\u0086�\u0094��\u008E���\u0083��\u008B使�\u0094�",
"genproclimit" : 7,
"networkhashps" : 1006829,
"pooledtx" : 0,
"testnet" : false,
"generate" : true,
"hashespersec" : 671850

Quote

{
"version" : 10100,
"protocolversion" : 10000,
"walletversion" : 10000,
"balance" : "486.1842381153ep",
"blocks" : 1068,
"headers" : 1068,
"timeoffset" : -1,
"connections" : 13,
"proxy" : "",
"difficulty" : 26609.04299521,
"testnet" : false,

3 minutes = 500 blocks
WTF ?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: provenceday on July 28, 2014, 02:32:48 AM
Yeah folks it looks like there is some sort of serious forking going on atm, it's not exactly clear what is happening but it doesn't look too good. I would recommend to only use the linux builds for the moment until we are able to resolve the issue, although that might not have anything to do with the problem.

which block are  linux wallet at now???


it seems one of my wallet are mining at the wrong chain:  one of my computer at 1085 block now!!!




Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: kcanup on July 28, 2014, 02:33:04 AM
so many problems ,no dll. file, how to get this file ???


OK ,I have got the dll file ,where to put in it.
Download dll separate, its on download page  ;)

put it in a folder with qt and run


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: belief on July 28, 2014, 02:33:30 AM
please relaunch this coin. make it better !


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: helloword2013 on July 28, 2014, 02:34:34 AM
I think this coin need to relaunch....


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: antanst on July 28, 2014, 02:34:43 AM
Linux build here.

Code:
{
    "blocks" : 485,
    "currentblocksize" : 1000,
    "currentblocktx" : 0,
    "difficulty" : 4922.22473102,
    "errors" : "This is a pre-release test build - use at your own risk - do not use for mining or merchant applications",
    "genproclimit" : -1,
    "networkhashps" : 296916557,
    "pooledtx" : 0,
    "testnet" : false,
    "generate" : true,
    "hashespersec" : 136312
}


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: ajeef on July 28, 2014, 02:34:55 AM
Yeah folks it looks like there is some sort of serious forking going on atm, it's not exactly clear what is happening but it doesn't look too good. I would recommend to only use the linux builds for the moment until we are able to resolve the issue, although that might not have anything to do with the problem.
give us your nodes!!!!!


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: tacee on July 28, 2014, 02:35:30 AM
@Dev ,I am mining with wallet ,why it keeps saying "generated but not accepted" ?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: othe on July 28, 2014, 02:35:57 AM
{
    "blocks" : 490,
    "currentblocksize" : 1000,
    "currentblocktx" : 0,
    "difficulty" : 5005.16122985,
    "errors" : "This is a pre-release test build - use at your own risk - do not use for mining or merchant applications",
    "genproclimit" : -1,
    "networkhashps" : 285778793,
    "pooledtx" : 0,
    "testnet" : false,
    "generate" : true,
    "hashespersec" : 240744

}


I  guess thats the right fork, has the most nethash.




Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: bitfreak! on July 28, 2014, 02:36:46 AM
OK FOLKS THE PROBLEM DOES APPEAR TO BE THE WINDOWS BINARIES. THEY ARE GOING OFF ON THEIR OWN CHAIN WHICH IS INVALID. IF YOU ARE USING A WINDOWS BUILD STOP MINING IMMEDIATELY PLEASE BECAUSE THE CHAIN YOUR MINING ISN'T THE RIGHT ONE.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: Hix on July 28, 2014, 02:36:56 AM
Linux build here.

Code:
{
    "blocks" : 485,
    "currentblocksize" : 1000,
    "currentblocktx" : 0,
    "difficulty" : 4922.22473102,
    "errors" : "This is a pre-release test build - use at your own risk - do not use for mining or merchant applications",
    "genproclimit" : -1,
    "networkhashps" : 296916557,
    "pooledtx" : 0,
    "testnet" : false,
    "generate" : true,
    "hashespersec" : 136312
}
How you compile it in linux?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: hankrules on July 28, 2014, 02:38:12 AM
Relaunch


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: Hix on July 28, 2014, 02:38:46 AM
This critical error to mine?
Code:
configure: error: Found Berkeley DB other than 4.8, required for portable wallets (--with-incompatible-bdb to ignore
me too,
Just do
Code:
./configure --with-incompatible-bdb

But then you'll get the error
Code:
Building LMDB ...
make[5]: Entering directory `/home/stas/DEV/Coins/Cryptonite/src/liblmdb'
make[5]: *** No rule to make target `liblmdb.a'.  Stop.
same shit


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: antanst on July 28, 2014, 02:39:01 AM
How you compile it in linux?

No compile, using trusty binary.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: othe on July 28, 2014, 02:39:53 AM
Relaunch

For what? let them fix the bug, release a new binary and everything is sorted....
You should only "relaunch" when something happens that isnt fixable.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: CogPrimus on July 28, 2014, 02:40:20 AM
Code:
05:38:56

getmininginfo


05:38:56

{
"blocks" : 1464,
"currentblocksize" : 1000,
"currentblocktx" : 0,
"difficulty" : 60020.62695895,
"errors" : "This is a pre-release test build - use at your own risk - do not use for mining or merchant applications",
"genproclimit" : 7,
"networkhashps" : 898981,
"pooledtx" : 0,
"testnet" : false,
"generate" : true,
"hashespersec" : 442810
}
"difficulty" : 60020.62695895, wtf?  ???


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: sxh on July 28, 2014, 02:40:40 AM
All the work is done and then start it.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: Hix on July 28, 2014, 02:41:10 AM
How you compile it in linux?

No compile, using trusty binary.
Code:
cryptonited: error while loading shared libraries: libboost_system.so.1.54.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
Binary give me this error


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: belief on July 28, 2014, 02:41:14 AM
这是测试用的预发布版本,----不要用来挖矿  ,what 's the meanning of it.  Is now testing the wallet , not  a real launch???


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: uvt9 on July 28, 2014, 02:41:23 AM

I  guess thats the right fork, has the most nethash.

Forks can always happen, should resolve itself tho...
u guys should add more seednodes.

Relaunch is non-sense if the the seednodes were just out of sync...

490 blocks ? aren't we supposed to have only around 100 blocks right now ?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: Depredation on July 28, 2014, 02:41:38 AM
Any pools for those of us with low hashrates :P ?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: othe on July 28, 2014, 02:43:44 AM

I  guess thats the right fork, has the most nethash.

Forks can always happen, should resolve itself tho...
u guys should add more seednodes.

Relaunch is non-sense if the the seednodes were just out of sync...

490 blocks ? aren't we supposed to have only around 100 blocks right now ?

The difficulty algo needs some time to adjust, thats totally normal.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: provenceday on July 28, 2014, 02:44:11 AM
OK FOLKS THE PROBLEM DOES APPEAR TO BE THE WINDOWS BINARIES. THEY ARE GOING OFF ON THEIR OWN CHAIN WHICH IS INVALID. IF YOU ARE USING A WINDOWS BUILD STOP MINING IMMEDIATELY PLEASE BECAUSE THE CHAIN YOUR MINING ISN'T THE RIGHT ONE.

give us your node, dev!

we need your node!

so we can contact to the main chain!


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: provenceday on July 28, 2014, 02:45:24 AM
Linux build here.

Code:
{
    "blocks" : 485,
    "currentblocksize" : 1000,
    "currentblocktx" : 0,
    "difficulty" : 4922.22473102,
    "errors" : "This is a pre-release test build - use at your own risk - do not use for mining or merchant applications",
    "genproclimit" : -1,
    "networkhashps" : 296916557,
    "pooledtx" : 0,
    "testnet" : false,
    "generate" : true,
    "hashespersec" : 136312
}
How you compile it in linux?


give us your node, thanks, so we can contact to the right chain.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: fakeshadow on July 28, 2014, 02:46:18 AM
all those hashes wasted for nothing.i think a relaunch is fair.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: en3r0 on July 28, 2014, 02:47:39 AM
What to do with ubuntu binarys?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: DonQuijote on July 28, 2014, 02:47:49 AM
http://www.thefunnyblog.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/funny-fail-picture.jpg


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: antanst on July 28, 2014, 02:47:56 AM
I use these in cryptonite.conf:

Code:
addnode=66.45.239.67:8253
addnode=80.11.70.97:8253
addnode=37.187.229.12:8253
addnode=82.32.195.63:8253
addnode=121.99.88.141:8253
addnode=188.252.234.97:8253
addnode=83.212.101.6


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: McNulty on July 28, 2014, 02:48:00 AM
stop it, fix it, maybe wait for a gpu miner, relaunch it


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: hankrules on July 28, 2014, 02:49:21 AM
Relaunch

For what? let them fix the bug, release a new binary and everything is sorted....
You should only "relaunch" when something happens that isnt fixable.

Because I was unable to mine any coins at launch, of course (and still can't).


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: Depredation on July 28, 2014, 02:49:39 AM
Yeah, should relaunch


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: Mouse020 on July 28, 2014, 02:50:10 AM
all those hashes wasted for nothing.i think a relaunch is fair.

stop it, fix it, maybe wait for a gpu miner, relaunch it

YES maybe
Relaunch Is good
or back to 300 block


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: DonQuijote on July 28, 2014, 02:50:20 AM
Yeah, can't use binaries or build from source.

dont worry dude, you will have that when they have milion XCN on their wallet  ;D
True history.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: antanst on July 28, 2014, 02:51:04 AM
Fixed:

Code:
addnode=66.45.239.67:8253
addnode=80.11.70.97:8253
addnode=37.187.229.12:8253
addnode=82.32.195.63:8253
addnode=121.99.88.141:8253
addnode=188.252.234.97:8253
addnode=83.212.101.6:8253


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: belief on July 28, 2014, 02:52:02 AM
can not mine at windows system , please relaunch  now!!!


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: tacee on July 28, 2014, 02:53:15 AM
can not mine at windows system , please relaunch  now!!!
yeah,agree! relaunch


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: Vorksholk on July 28, 2014, 02:54:14 AM
Relaunching the network seems a bit drastic for a few hours of lost mining on the Windows side considering cloud resources people are likely throwing at this, but it would certainly make the coin launch more fair. If you're cloud mining, do a risk analysis.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: ajeef on July 28, 2014, 02:54:21 AM
Fixed:

Code:
addnode=66.45.239.67:8253
addnode=80.11.70.97:8253
addnode=37.187.229.12:8253
addnode=82.32.195.63:8253
addnode=121.99.88.141:8253
addnode=188.252.234.97:8253
addnode=83.212.101.6:8253
wrong chain


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: antanst on July 28, 2014, 02:55:15 AM
wrong chain

?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: DonQuijote on July 28, 2014, 02:56:00 AM
trusty binaries dont mine...


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: belief on July 28, 2014, 02:56:49 AM
can not mine at windows system , please relaunch  now!!!
yeah,agree! relaunch
yes , have more than 3000 blocks at windows wallet ,not fair , why is there different  between windows and linux.   Something wrong with the wallet, so  relaunch is needed.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: Mouse020 on July 28, 2014, 02:57:49 AM
can not mine at windows system , please relaunch  now!!!
yeah,agree! relaunch
yes , have more than 3000 blocks at windows wallet ,not fair , why is there different  between windows and linux.   so  relaunch is needed.
yes
If not
this coin will be some guys toy~


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: antanst on July 28, 2014, 02:59:21 AM
trusty binaries work fine in my case. Difficulty is rising steeply, it seems people are throwing serious CPU power behind this.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: provenceday on July 28, 2014, 02:59:42 AM
Fixed:

Code:
addnode=66.45.239.67:8253
addnode=80.11.70.97:8253
addnode=37.187.229.12:8253
addnode=82.32.195.63:8253
addnode=121.99.88.141:8253
addnode=188.252.234.97:8253
addnode=83.212.101.6:8253

this is the wrong chain.


we need dev's node or check point?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: McNulty on July 28, 2014, 03:00:11 AM
Relaunching the network seems a bit drastic for a few hours of lost mining on the Windows side considering cloud resources people are likely throwing at this, but it would certainly make the coin launch more fair. If you're cloud mining, do a risk analysis.

this coin has only few hours


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: provenceday on July 28, 2014, 03:00:19 AM
trusty binaries work fine in my case. Difficulty is rising steeply, it seems people are throwing serious CPU power behind this.

which block are you at now?




Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: DonQuijote on July 28, 2014, 03:00:28 AM
trusty binaries work fine in my case. Difficulty is rising steeply, it seems people are throwing serious CPU power behind this.
what commands do you use?
ubuntu server ? cryptonited file?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: provenceday on July 28, 2014, 03:01:07 AM
No relaunch is necessary. Do not give into the incessant whinging of the windows noobs.  Competent miner should always take time to setup linux system for mining

give us your node and which block are you at now?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: bitfreak! on July 28, 2014, 03:01:44 AM
The valid blockchain is just over 550 blocks. I have only been able to mine 2 blocks myself. So I'm afraid we will not be relaunching, because that would be even worse than what has already happened. We will try to get a working Windows binary out as soon as possible (within the next couple of hours). Some coins don't even launch with Qt, let alone a Windows binary, so at the end of the day the situation could have been much worse.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: DonQuijote on July 28, 2014, 03:03:08 AM
The valid blockchain is just over 550 blocks. I have only been able to mine 2 blocks myself. So I'm afraid we will not be relaunching, because that would be even worse than what has already happened. We will try to get a working Windows binary out as soon as possible (within the next couple of hours). Some coins don't even launch with Qt, let along a Windows binary, so at the end of the day the situation could have been much worse.
Trusty binary dont mine...
Help us please, dont premine...


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: antanst on July 28, 2014, 03:04:05 AM
The valid blockchain is just over 550 blocks.

Thank you.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: provenceday on July 28, 2014, 03:04:43 AM
The valid blockchain is just over 550 blocks. I have only been able to mine 2 blocks myself. So I'm afraid we will not be relaunching, because that would be even worse than what has already happened. We will try to get a working Windows binary out as soon as possible (within the next couple of hours). Some coins don't even launch with Qt, let alone a Windows binary, so at the end of the day the situation could have been much worse.

that's ok, i agree with this. but can you give us your node dev?

we need the right node.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: WilderX on July 28, 2014, 03:05:52 AM
No relaunch is necessary. Do not give into the incessant whinging of the windows noobs.  Competent miner should always take time to setup linux system for mining

give us your node and which block are you at now?

LOL and what would he be saying if the foot was in the other shoe and this was a linux issue...


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: jasemoney on July 28, 2014, 03:06:28 AM
im excited for the mini blockchain, to bad bout the windows not working wish i could be mining!  keeping eye on thread. goodluck


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: provenceday on July 28, 2014, 03:07:27 AM
linux guys Please give us your correct node?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: DonQuijote on July 28, 2014, 03:09:32 AM
linux guys Please give us your correct node?
I use the same, in linux im in the correct block but dont mine, in windows i mine in the wrong block
Premine is the correct word


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: djm34 on July 28, 2014, 03:09:47 AM
The valid blockchain is just over 550 blocks. I have only been able to mine 2 blocks myself. So I'm afraid we will not be relaunching, because that would be even worse than what has already happened. We will try to get a working Windows binary out as soon as possible (within the next couple of hours). Some coins don't even launch with Qt, let alone a Windows binary, so at the end of the day the situation could have been much worse.
can you try to fix the problem with connecting the wallet ?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: cubydu on July 28, 2014, 03:11:37 AM
How can I check balance with binary ?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: DonQuijote on July 28, 2014, 03:12:28 AM
How can I check balance with binary ?



Quote
sudo ./trusty_amd64_cryptonited_14072720 getbalance


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: Anotheranonlol on July 28, 2014, 03:12:38 AM
No relaunch is necessary. Do not give into the incessant whinging of the windows noobs.  Competent miner should always take time to setup linux system for mining

give us your node and which block are you at now?

LOL and what would he be saying if the foot was in the other shoe and this was a linux issue...

I am mining on linux, on block 595, but balance has now reset to 0.
'cannot fastforward chain because of missing data' , ban, finalize node error.. so no, not at an advantage here.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: provenceday on July 28, 2014, 03:14:22 AM
No relaunch is necessary. Do not give into the incessant whinging of the windows noobs.  Competent miner should always take time to setup linux system for mining

give us your node and which block are you at now?

LOL and what would he be saying if the foot was in the other shoe and this was a linux issue...

I am mining on linux, on block 595, but balance has now reset to 0.
'cannot fastforward chain because of missing data' , ban, finalize node error.. so no, not at an advantage here.


so maybe something wrong with the blockchain.

wait for dev's confirm.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: belief on July 28, 2014, 03:14:47 AM
No relaunch is necessary. Do not give into the incessant whinging of the windows noobs.  Competent miner should always take time to setup linux system for mining
you can play this coin with your linux guys  and find how many people buy  your coins


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: fakeshadow on July 28, 2014, 03:16:34 AM
So this is a new trick to cover instamine or even premine.Thanks for the lesson. ::)



Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: DonQuijote on July 28, 2014, 03:17:34 AM
Quote
Accept block header
Ban
Finalize Node
Trusty binary...
Dont premine dev... help us...


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: provenceday on July 28, 2014, 03:19:36 AM
linux guys Please give us your correct node?

anybody?

Please post the linux wallet node?

thanks


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: Anotheranonlol on July 28, 2014, 03:19:39 AM
No relaunch is necessary. Do not give into the incessant whinging of the windows noobs.  Competent miner should always take time to setup linux system for mining
you can play this coin with your linux guys  and find how many people buy  your coins

I am osx user, only install this last minutes in VM

http://i.imgur.com/dmvxKQb.png


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: stoneone on July 28, 2014, 03:20:56 AM
This coin is dead, the authors use linux pre-mine.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: Mouse020 on July 28, 2014, 03:23:45 AM
This coin is dead, the authors use linux pre-mine.
new premine jobs
Linux premine~LOL


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: djm34 on July 28, 2014, 03:24:09 AM
I think a relaunch would be more appropriate. windows user can't mine (the correct fork) so it wouldn't be fair to continue like that.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: CrazyLeoW on July 28, 2014, 03:24:20 AM
This coin is dead, the authors use linux pre-mine.

+1
DEV, please fuck yourself


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: Anotheranonlol on July 28, 2014, 03:24:44 AM
just install a linux vm you lazy fuckers
serious miner will be using big instances anyway- from a relaunch 2x as much. you cannot escape that


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: fakeshadow on July 28, 2014, 03:26:53 AM
This coin is dead, the authors use linux pre-mine.

It won't die.However It's a bad start and those few ppl who can mine will dump the hell out of it.

I hope someone can fork the code and make a proper launch for our win "noobs".


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: en3r0 on July 28, 2014, 03:28:59 AM
Got this working on Trusty by installing Bitcoin. It takes care of most if not all the dependencies.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: coinfusion on July 28, 2014, 03:29:09 AM
There's no Makefile for LMDB in the github source, so it can't be built on any system that can't use the prebuilt .so in the repo (which is a binary, and built binaries really shouldn't be in there....)


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: uvt9 on July 28, 2014, 03:31:00 AM
can't get anything with my 8-core Xeon E5 running Ubuntu in last hour. How are you guys performing ?  :)


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: Vorksholk on July 28, 2014, 03:31:15 AM
Anyone looking for Linux addnodes, here are some:

"addr" : "101.161.82.82:16991",
"addr" : "54.183.6.200:54875",
"addr" : "54.86.182.245:33145",
"addr" : "98.143.148.155:56400",
"addr" : "98.213.214.114:49676",
"addr" : "54.210.133.208:48567",
"addr" : "98.143.148.159:59786",
"addr" : "98.143.148.160:44907",
"addr" : "54.210.162.119:36181",
"addr" : "54.210.162.121:34191",
"addr" : "54.86.215.63:34684",
"addr" : "54.210.162.149:57404",
"addr" : "54.178.130.72:38508",
"addr" : "54.178.130.53:59543",
"addr" : "54.178.130.54:41429",
"addr" : "54.178.130.34:45857",
"addr" : "54.92.122.176:54692",
"addr" : "54.92.50.31:52864",
"addr" : "54.92.125.113:53743",
"addr" : "54.92.119.79:56161",
"addr" : "54.178.130.84:50598",
"addr" : "54.178.129.32:41261",
"addr" : "54.178.130.92:50105",
"addr" : "54.178.130.43:45357",
"addr" : "54.94.167.253:43877",
"addr" : "54.94.168.3:46196",
"addr" : "54.94.167.245:53795",
"addr" : "54.77.29.127:51697",
"addr" : "54.77.75.60:39916",
"addr" : "54.76.247.204:48792",
"addr" : "54.77.83.158:38377",
"addr" : "54.77.83.112:38735",
"addr" : "54.77.83.54:44478",
"addr" : "54.77.76.91:54746",
"addr" : "54.77.2.78:57749",
"addr" : "54.77.83.51:58805",
"addr" : "54.77.1.253:58953",
"addr" : "54.77.61.97:53143",
"addr" : "54.77.68.120:59549",
"addr" : "54.77.70.111:41230",
"addr" : "54.77.68.204:51074",
"addr" : "54.77.69.235:54575",
"addr" : "54.191.238.251:44037",
"addr" : "54.191.239.47:48571",
"addr" : "54.77.63.137:34329",
"addr" : "54.191.239.58:39623",
"addr" : "54.187.179.75:38807",
"addr" : "54.191.239.54:46147",
"addr" : "54.191.239.27:38041",
"addr" : "54.191.238.254:34467",
"addr" : "54.191.238.252:57977",
"addr" : "54.191.238.255:38455",
"addr" : "54.191.238.248:35483",
"addr" : "54.191.239.15:41029",
"addr" : "54.191.238.240:50296",
"addr" : "54.191.239.21:58149",
"addr" : "54.191.239.3:52823",
"addr" : "54.191.239.49:35480",
"addr" : "54.191.239.6:36833",
"addr" : "54.191.238.242:44995",
"addr" : "54.94.152.205:56142",
"addr" : "54.94.165.222:34048",
"addr" : "54.94.168.20:40199",
"addr" : "54.191.238.253:57170",
"addr" : "54.178.131.196:55663",
"addr" : "54.178.131.188:35560",
"addr" : "98.143.148.157:8253",
"addr" : "83.212.103.135:8253",
"addr" : "83.212.123.214:48082",
"addr" : "62.210.141.204:46424",
"addr" : "85.24.195.109:32418",
"addr" : "148.251.14.212:8253",
"addr" : "37.187.229.14:37850",
"addr" : "83.212.115.10:51173",
"addr" : "54.191.210.122:48682",
"addr" : "37.187.229.12:8253",
"addr" : "54.178.131.194:60417",
"addr" : "54.191.73.219:53106",
"addr" : "54.191.214.249:34451",
"addr" : "54.77.84.233:46139",
"addr" : "54.191.28.134:42735",
"addr" : "54.77.85.241:48256",
"addr" : "54.191.224.173:38111",
"addr" : "54.191.52.57:38348",
"addr" : "54.94.168.38:40360",
"addr" : "54.94.168.50:50561",
"addr" : "54.94.168.25:40881",
"addr" : "54.94.168.23:39880",
"addr" : "54.94.168.32:55106",
"addr" : "54.94.168.47:38735",
"addr" : "54.94.168.37:40637",
"addr" : "54.94.168.24:33885",
"addr" : "54.94.163.250:48520",
"addr" : "54.94.168.51:58583",
"addr" : "54.94.167.252:42529",
"addr" : "54.94.168.60:60437",
"addr" : "54.94.168.41:40381",
"addr" : "54.94.168.43:49443",
"addr" : "54.191.94.126:37894",
"addr" : "84.238.225.19:41693",
"addr" : "54.185.20.159:51910",
"addr" : "54.191.73.191:55676",
"addr" : "161.53.119.99:51464",
"addr" : "54.191.65.24:41791",
"addr" : "54.85.60.167:38219",
"addr" : "54.191.67.142:38514",
"addr" : "54.210.139.37:46018",
"addr" : "54.187.235.55:59160",
"addr" : "54.210.166.179:52084",
"addr" : "54.210.139.102:33437",
"addr" : "54.210.137.114:56992",
"addr" : "54.210.139.186:37093",
"addr" : "24.130.14.88:8253",
"addr" : "118.209.208.136:45839",
"addr" : "54.191.145.35:43278",
"addr" : "54.187.152.36:54798",
"addr" : "24.110.218.202:59839"

If you're trying to connect to full nodes to get synced up, go for the :8253 ones:
        "addr" : "98.143.148.157:8253",
        "addr" : "83.212.103.135:8253",
        "addr" : "148.251.14.212:8253",
        "addr" : "37.187.229.12:8253",
        "addr" : "24.130.14.88:8253",
        "addr" : "98.143.148.155:8253",
        "addr" : "98.213.214.114:8253",
        "addr" : "54.183.6.200:8253",
        "addr" : "83.212.102.239:8253",
        "addr" : "144.76.39.243:8253",
        "addr" : "37.187.229.14:8253",
        "addr" : "79.135.200.61:8253",
        "addr" : "83.212.103.45:8253",
        "addr" : "183.38.5.69:8253",


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: bitfreak! on July 28, 2014, 03:32:11 AM
Fixed windows binary will be available very soon.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: restless on July 28, 2014, 03:36:06 AM
No binaries, no build instructions, no pools. I wonder when there will be block explorer to see where these first blocks are going


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: provenceday on July 28, 2014, 03:36:58 AM
Fixed windows binary will be available very soon.


wait for this now!

thanks


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: antanst on July 28, 2014, 03:42:09 AM
Code:
ERROR: CheckProofOfWork() : hash doesn't match nBits
ERROR: AcceptBlockHeader() : incorrect proof of work
ERROR: ProcessBlockHeader() : AcceptBlockHeader FAILED

Anyone know why this happens?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: belief on July 28, 2014, 03:43:20 AM
Fixed windows binary will be available very soon.
It's late now, need  to relauch , or will be unfair to willows user.

 Don't be so struggle to make it live ,dev, or this coin will  die.



only relauch with a fair start ,can save this coin.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: Vorksholk on July 28, 2014, 03:43:42 AM
Code:
ERROR: CheckProofOfWork() : hash doesn't match nBits
ERROR: AcceptBlockHeader() : incorrect proof of work
ERROR: ProcessBlockHeader() : AcceptBlockHeader FAILED

Anyone know why this happens?

Are you on Linux? If so, you're client is likely rejecting blocks sent to it by rogue Windows nodes with the incorrect difficulty calculation, which @catia in IRC pointed out to be an issue in the way libgmp handles long precision on different platforms.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: antanst on July 28, 2014, 03:45:32 AM
Code:
ERROR: CheckProofOfWork() : hash doesn't match nBits
ERROR: AcceptBlockHeader() : incorrect proof of work
ERROR: ProcessBlockHeader() : AcceptBlockHeader FAILED

Anyone know why this happens?

Are you on Linux? If so, you're client is likely rejecting blocks sent to it by rogue Windows nodes with the incorrect difficulty calculation, which @catia in IRC pointed out to be an issue in the way libgmp handles long precision on different platforms.

Yes, thanks.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: bitfreak! on July 28, 2014, 03:45:37 AM
No binaries, no build instructions, no pools. I wonder when there will be block explorer to see where these first blocks are going
Binaries are available, working Windows binaries will be back up soon. The build process is virtually the same as Bitcoin, but you also need libgmp-dev. Pools will hopefully be available within a few weeks or months, be we're using a new PoW algorithm, so it will take time. A block explorer is possible but it will also take some time since many of the underlying processes of Cryptonite are different from all other Bitcoin-based coins. We do have one exchange interested in adding XCN to their list of traded coins so hopefully we'll get that set up soon.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: uvt9 on July 28, 2014, 03:57:00 AM
How many coins in one block?
currently 243+ coins per block.

we're at block 700 now, this mean 170,000 coin mined already.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: bitfreak! on July 28, 2014, 03:59:31 AM
Ok we should have working Windows binaries now.

cryptonited-qt:
http://gpile.it/mbc/win64_cryptonite-qt_14072723.exe

cryptonited:
http://gpile.it/mbc/win64_cryptonited_14072723.exe

EDIT: you will probably need to delete the cryptonite folder inside of ~/AppData/Raoming/


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: WilderX on July 28, 2014, 04:00:51 AM
How many coins in one block?
currently 243+ coins per block.

we're at block 700 now, this mean 170,000 coin mined already.

This is BS launch. REDO.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: prix on July 28, 2014, 04:02:43 AM
I can't get a transaction from block 1 by the hash.
Can anybody check it?
What's wrong?

Code:
getblockhash 1
0000007200edbbd3f3500fb6444e5a85ef6f5a10cced726e8d6c8b0b198dd181

getblock 0000007200edbbd3f3500fb6444e5a85ef6f5a10cced726e8d6c8b0b198dd181
{
"tx" : [
"1e08f4eff42623867148e9e80f30345c5c856840535baf9eb6c44ac6c89c7700"
]
}

gettransaction 1e08f4eff42623867148e9e80f30345c5c856840535baf9eb6c44ac6c89c7700
Invalid or non-wallet transaction id (code -5)

getrawtransaction 1e08f4eff42623867148e9e80f30345c5c856840535baf9eb6c44ac6c89c7700
No information available about transaction (code -5)



Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: syyyn on July 28, 2014, 04:15:31 AM
Why was the coin not relaunched? Didn't want to loose that premine did ya DEV.  Going on the shit coin list.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: shojayxt on July 28, 2014, 04:16:25 AM
It sounded good but has quickly gone down the shitter.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: xinweiwei on July 28, 2014, 04:16:43 AM
Do you test the payout?I can not receive the coins which were send by my friend.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: watuba on July 28, 2014, 04:19:50 AM
Weeding out the weak hands ;)

This is going to be an awesome coin.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: provenceday on July 28, 2014, 04:20:11 AM
Ok we should have working Windows binaries now.

cryptonited-qt:
http://gpile.it/mbc/win64_cryptonite-qt_14072723.exe

cryptonited:
http://gpile.it/mbc/win64_cryptonited_14072723.exe

EDIT: you will probably need to delete the cryptonite folder inside of ~/AppData/Raoming/


main node Please????


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: jasemoney on July 28, 2014, 04:27:57 AM
happily mining at 900k, fingers crossed


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: WilderX on July 28, 2014, 04:35:40 AM
Ok we should have working Windows binaries now.

cryptonited-qt:
http://gpile.it/mbc/win64_cryptonite-qt_14072723.exe

cryptonited:
http://gpile.it/mbc/win64_cryptonited_14072723.exe

EDIT: you will probably need to delete the cryptonite folder inside of ~/AppData/Raoming/

Well dev seems to be working so far I did not re-download the dll's tho? No matter?

Still have to say the shit that went down with this launch is not cool.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: bitfreak! on July 28, 2014, 04:37:28 AM
Why was the coin not relaunched? Didn't want to loose that premine did ya DEV.  Going on the shit coin list.
Oh yeah our master plan was to spend nearly 4 months and tens of thousands of dollars on this project, just so we could release a faulty Windows build and get a little bit of an advantage. Nice theory sherlock, but I'm afraid it was just bad luck, and considering how experimental this altcoin is, we're lucky it's the worst thing that has happened so far. I am extremely sorry to those windows people who wasted some electricity mining the bad chains, but we got a new windows build out as quickly as possible and a relaunch is simply out of the question, it will only make the situation worse than it needs to be.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: watuba on July 28, 2014, 04:45:43 AM
For those who missed it, there was a test thread lasting over a month, where the devs did an incredible job bringing this thing together, and after creating a completely new type of coin, ensuring the release and mining was as stable and fair as possible.  With all the innovation, it'd be a miracle if this were the biggest issue yet to come.  If you've newly joined, please don't make assumptions about their character based on the windows wallet being down for a couple hours.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: catia on July 28, 2014, 04:47:10 AM
I can't get a transaction from block 1 by the hash.
Can anybody check it?
What's wrong?

Couple things. It was printing the wrong txid, a what you really want to use it getrawtransaction txid 1
This is fixed in github and binaries are building.

Code:
./cryptonited getblock 0000007200edbbd3f3500fb6444e5a85ef6f5a10cced726e8d6c8b0b198dd181
{
    "hash" : "0000007200edbbd3f3500fb6444e5a85ef6f5a10cced726e8d6c8b0b198dd181",
    "confirmations" : 814,
    "height" : 1,
    "version" : 1,
    "merkleroot" : "1e08f4eff42623867148e9e80f30345c5c856840535baf9eb6c44ac6c89c7700",
    "accountroot" : "afd20cfd51ecccaffdb1ff548c31de1c388d205e4b2ec58ed3a04a4a1b744c30",
    "time" : 1406509319,
    "nonce" : 16959575210240630596,
    "difficulty" : 1.00000000,
    "chainwork" : "0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000200000",
    "previousblockhash" : "000009a460ccc429ac6e53c91c6ed2d96697884b8b656a903042faff8971c5aa",
    "nextblockhash" : "00000151f202d968d8fa074625cb1885d78dbcfcde75a3f0e76a613fcefcb929",
    "size" : 195,
    "tx" : [
        "001f14a48874608a21d1d5e22e7255b2078cbd80fc00ee13183dac30d3e6365a"
    ]
}

Code:
./cryptonited getrawtransaction 001f14a48874608a21d1d5e22e7255b2078cbd80fc00ee13183dac30d3e6365a 1
{
    "hex" : "010000000100000000000000000000000000000000000000000036e4023602000000010036e40236020000727769474f427b8ccc2a189780593529a34cbe27000100000000000000",
    "txid" : "001f14a48874608a21d1d5e22e7255b2078cbd80fc00ee13183dac30d3e6365a",
    "version" : 1,
    "lockheight" : 1,
    "msg" : "",
    "vin" : [
        {
            "coinbase" : true,
            "pubKey" : "0000000000000000000000000000000000000000",
            "address" : "CGTta3M4t3yXu8uRgkKvaWd2d8DQvDPnpL",
            "value" : "243.1000000000ep"
        }
    ],
    "vout" : [
        {
            "value" : "243.1000000000ep",
            "n" : 0,
            "pubKey" : "27be4ca32935598097182acc8c7b424f47697772",
            "address" : "CSu8ekNgv8Dwu5tDDgW4FeJMDLXYGFb4by"
        }
    ],
    "blockhash" : "0000007200edbbd3f3500fb6444e5a85ef6f5a10cced726e8d6c8b0b198dd181",
    "confirmations" : 816,
    "time" : 1406509319,
    "blocktime" : 1406509319
}



Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: Vorksholk on July 28, 2014, 04:48:09 AM
For what it's worth, I'm a cloud miner who'd be fine with a chain reset, if it's really going to be a downfall of this coin. If you get enough interest, some of the other cloud miners might agree; it's about the long-term for the project. Just my $0.02, I'm happy to stay on the chain I mined on as well.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: watuba on July 28, 2014, 04:56:46 AM
This is insane.  It's nearing 500MHashes/sec.  Is that normal 4 hours into a release?  Is it just one giant player, or several big ones?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: Vorksholk on July 28, 2014, 05:06:25 AM
Ok we should have working Windows binaries now.

cryptonited-qt:
http://gpile.it/mbc/win64_cryptonite-qt_14072723.exe

cryptonited:
http://gpile.it/mbc/win64_cryptonited_14072723.exe

EDIT: you will probably need to delete the cryptonite folder inside of ~/AppData/Raoming/


main node Please????

+1


+1

From IRC:


[22:32] <@catia> 37.187.229.12
[22:32] <@catia> 37.187.229.14
[22:32] <@catia> 5.9.84.228


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: CrazyLeoW on July 28, 2014, 05:07:44 AM
Ok we should have working Windows binaries now.

cryptonited-qt:
http://gpile.it/mbc/win64_cryptonite-qt_14072723.exe

cryptonited:
http://gpile.it/mbc/win64_cryptonited_14072723.exe

EDIT: you will probably need to delete the cryptonite folder inside of ~/AppData/Raoming/

Still cannot sync! Dev, Do I need to delete wallet.dat before launch the new wallet?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: prix on July 28, 2014, 05:09:15 AM
I can't get a transaction from block 1 by the hash.
Can anybody check it?
What's wrong?
Couple things. It was printing the wrong txid, a what you really want to use it getrawtransaction txid 1
This is fixed in github and binaries are building.

Ok. Please, notify when the build will be available.

I got the error when click on "Inputs..." in "Coin Control Features" panel:
Code:
Assertion failed!
File: walletmodel.cpp, Line 554
Expression: 0


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: catia on July 28, 2014, 05:11:18 AM
The windows chain is not viable. The difficulty adjustment had no effect, so all those coins were mined with minimum difficulty. Part of the problem is people thinking they lost some huge amount of coin when in fact those coins represent 1/1000 or less the work of coins done on the working chain.

So even if you have 200k XCN on that fork, it's probably not even a single blocks worth of work on the other chain. So moral of the story is that it's not practical to move the network to the windows chain and it's also not sane as the total work done in that chain is marginal at best. It seems to be a case of, well I lost mine, so everybody should lose theirs. One of these chains is correct, and the other is decidedly not. It sucks that you mined a weird chain, and I apologize for writing that code. But I am not the distributor of whatever justice you seek and am not going to tell people that the valid proof of works that they found don't count anymore because your miner was broke.

All of this was caused by a single uninitialized variable, and presumably some compiler difference caused this to not be a critical error on linux.

For those of you that think we don't want to restart to keep coins. Let me give you the lowdown. Between bitfreak and I, we have a total of 4 blocks. I'm pretty sure that in any kind of relaunch the results will be the same simply because we are pushing out the code and pushing go at the same time.




Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: catia on July 28, 2014, 05:11:48 AM
I got the error when click on "Inputs..." in "Coin Control Features" panel:

Coincontrol is not supported yet.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: jly77 on July 28, 2014, 05:15:10 AM
The windows chain is not viable. The difficulty adjustment had no effect, so all those coins were mined with minimum difficulty. Part of the problem is people thinking they lost some huge amount of coin when in fact those coins represent 1/1000 or less the work of coins done on the working chain.

So even if you have 200k XCN on that fork, it's probably not even a single blocks worth of work on the other chain. So moral of the story is that it's not practical to move the network to the windows chain and it's also not sane as the total work done in that chain is marginal at best. It seems to be a case of, well I lost mine, so everybody should lose theirs. One of these chains is correct, and the other is decidedly not. It sucks that you mined a weird chain, and I apologize for writing that code. But I am not the distributor of whatever justice you seek and am not going to tell people that the valid proof of works that they found don't count anymore because your miner was broke.

All of this was caused by a single uninitialized variable, and presumably some compiler difference caused this to not be a critical error on linux.

For those of you that think we don't want to restart to keep coins. Let me give you the lowdown. Between bitfreak and I, we have a total of 4 blocks. I'm pretty sure that in any kind of relaunch the results will be the same simply because we are pushing out the code and pushing go at the same time.




Don't waste your time to write these bullshits. Tell us how to get windows wallet work!


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: uvt9 on July 28, 2014, 05:17:45 AM
Don't waste your time to write these bullshits. Tell us how to get windows wallet work!

it's working already, i got synced without needs of adding nodes or conf file. just download wallet plus dll file and wait.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: CrazyLeoW on July 28, 2014, 05:18:01 AM
The windows chain is not viable. The difficulty adjustment had no effect, so all those coins were mined with minimum difficulty. Part of the problem is people thinking they lost some huge amount of coin when in fact those coins represent 1/1000 or less the work of coins done on the working chain.

So even if you have 200k XCN on that fork, it's probably not even a single blocks worth of work on the other chain. So moral of the story is that it's not practical to move the network to the windows chain and it's also not sane as the total work done in that chain is marginal at best. It seems to be a case of, well I lost mine, so everybody should lose theirs. One of these chains is correct, and the other is decidedly not. It sucks that you mined a weird chain, and I apologize for writing that code. But I am not the distributor of whatever justice you seek and am not going to tell people that the valid proof of works that they found don't count anymore because your miner was broke.

All of this was caused by a single uninitialized variable, and presumably some compiler difference caused this to not be a critical error on linux.

For those of you that think we don't want to restart to keep coins. Let me give you the lowdown. Between bitfreak and I, we have a total of 4 blocks. I'm pretty sure that in any kind of relaunch the results will be the same simply because we are pushing out the code and pushing go at the same time.




Don't waste your time to write these bullshits. Tell us how to get windows wallet work!

Dev, I wanna fuck your grandma!!! fuck off!!! shit!!!


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: dreampursuing on July 28, 2014, 05:18:53 AM
This is totally a mistake dissussion thread.  Please make it right and relaunch !~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: CrazyLeoW on July 28, 2014, 05:20:39 AM
stupid dev, refund our POWER! shit!


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: jasemoney on July 28, 2014, 05:21:58 AM
oh my god you guys didnt get coins for 25 minutes of work, complain more!


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: syyyn on July 28, 2014, 05:23:22 AM
Dev spent 10's of thousands of dollars starting this coin? Hahahaha more BS.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: catia on July 28, 2014, 05:25:36 AM
I can't get a transaction from block 1 by the hash.
Can anybody check it?
What's wrong?
Couple things. It was printing the wrong txid, a what you really want to use it getrawtransaction txid 1
This is fixed in github and binaries are building.

Ok. Please, notify when the build will be available.


New binaries http://gpile.it/mbc/  800/801 vintage


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: WilderX on July 28, 2014, 05:31:19 AM
Ok we should have working Windows binaries now.

cryptonited-qt:
http://gpile.it/mbc/win64_cryptonite-qt_14072723.exe

cryptonited:
http://gpile.it/mbc/win64_cryptonited_14072723.exe

EDIT: you will probably need to delete the cryptonite folder inside of ~/AppData/Raoming/

Well dev seems to be working so far I did not re-download the dll's tho? No matter?

Still have to say the shit that went down with this launch is not cool.

OK have to take that back all my wallets just went back to 0 balance! STILL NOT WORKING. And I remove the data in roaming folder.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: jly77 on July 28, 2014, 05:31:36 AM
I can't get a transaction from block 1 by the hash.
Can anybody check it?
What's wrong?
Couple things. It was printing the wrong txid, a what you really want to use it getrawtransaction txid 1
This is fixed in github and binaries are building.

Ok. Please, notify when the build will be available.


New binaries http://gpile.it/mbc/  800/801 vintage

Can the old wallet be used?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: catia on July 28, 2014, 05:35:18 AM
Can the old wallet be used?

Yeah just run the new exe. No delete/upgrade or anything required.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: bitfreak! on July 28, 2014, 05:37:07 AM
Dev spent 10's of thousands of dollars starting this coin? Hahahaha more BS.
Many members here will remember that I had a 28 BTC bounty for anyone capable of developing the mini-blockchain scheme:

[CLOSED] $20,000 Mini-Blockchain Implementation (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=371601.0)

Admittedly BTC was worth much more at that point in time, and I didn't spend 28 BTC on development, but it was more than 20 BTC. And so far I've only been able to mine 2 blocks myself. So I'm sorry if Windows users feel some how robbed, but there were no guarantees when you decided to use this coin and we have a big obvious red warning plastered on the website which explains how experimental this coin is.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: jly77 on July 28, 2014, 05:40:51 AM
Can the old wallet be used?

Yeah just run the new exe. No delete/upgrade or anything required.

block time still too fast. Is this normal?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: catia on July 28, 2014, 05:44:43 AM
What do you mean too fast?

Currently we are

    "blocks" : 982,
    "headers" : 982,
    "timeoffset" : 0,
    "connections" : 7,
    "proxy" : "",
    "difficulty" : 13371.59862808,

Block time is a little short because difficulty is still increasing.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: suppersz on July 28, 2014, 05:46:06 AM
Dev spent 10's of thousands of dollars starting this coin? Hahahaha more BS.
Many members here will remember that I had a 28 BTC bounty for anyone capable of developing the mini-blockchain scheme:

[CLOSED] $20,000 Mini-Blockchain Implementation (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=371601.0)

Admittedly BTC was worth much more at that point in time, and I didn't spend 28 BTC on development, but it was more than 20 BTC. And so far I've only been able to mine 2 blocks myself. So I'm sorry if Windows users feel some how robbed, but there were no guarantees when you decided to use this coin and we have a big obvious red warning plastered on the website which explains how experimental this coin is.
They also claim to have SMALLER BLOCKCHAIN,What is the difference?
[NUD ₦ ] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=640933.0

Quote
SECURE
NUD is based on bcrypt, a key-stretching hashing algorithm that exists for 13 years and is based on functions that are more than 30 years old.

COMPLETELY ANONYMOUS
Unlike other alternatives NUD is not just pseudoanonymous but completely anonymous on both the protocol level (TOR) and the blockchain level.

SMALLER BLOCKCHAIN
Other cryptocurrencies blockchains are ever growing and could potentially become so large within the coming years that only centralized servers could store them, NUD actively works on introducing a significantly smaller blockchain which will not compromise on security.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: robinf on July 28, 2014, 05:49:30 AM
Relaunch!!!!!

Ok???


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: provenceday on July 28, 2014, 05:51:32 AM
Dev spent 10's of thousands of dollars starting this coin? Hahahaha more BS.
Many members here will remember that I had a 28 BTC bounty for anyone capable of developing the mini-blockchain scheme:

[CLOSED] $20,000 Mini-Blockchain Implementation (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=371601.0)

Admittedly BTC was worth much more at that point in time, and I didn't spend 28 BTC on development, but it was more than 20 BTC. And so far I've only been able to mine 2 blocks myself. So I'm sorry if Windows users feel some how robbed, but there were no guarantees when you decided to use this coin and we have a big obvious red warning plastered on the website which explains how experimental this coin is.

windows node please???


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: jly77 on July 28, 2014, 05:52:40 AM
What do you mean too fast?

Currently we are

    "blocks" : 982,
    "headers" : 982,
    "timeoffset" : 0,
    "connections" : 7,
    "proxy" : "",
    "difficulty" : 13371.59862808,

Block time is a little short because difficulty is still increasing.

Mine is different from yours, using the latest windows binary. :(


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: ajeef on July 28, 2014, 05:54:11 AM
What do you mean too fast?

Currently we are

    "blocks" : 982,
    "headers" : 982,
    "timeoffset" : 0,
    "connections" : 7,
    "proxy" : "",
    "difficulty" : 13371.59862808,

Block time is a little short because difficulty is still increasing.

Mine is different from yours, using the latest windows binary. :(



{
"blocks" : 1021,
"currentblocksize" : 1000,
"currentblocktx" : 0,
"difficulty" : 14037.06897652,
"errors" : "",
"genproclimit" : 7,
"networkhashps" : 677793586,
"pooledtx" : 0,
"testnet" : false,
"generate" : true,
"hashespersec" : 783617
}


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: ThatDandyMan on July 28, 2014, 05:56:48 AM
Anyone who mined on Windows before block 443 can retrieve their coins on the correct blockchain. Stop bitching and load your old wallet.dats onto the fixed QT.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: wuqingfang on July 28, 2014, 05:58:18 AM
Dev spent 10's of thousands of dollars starting this coin? Hahahaha more BS.
Many members here will remember that I had a 28 BTC bounty for anyone capable of developing the mini-blockchain scheme:

[CLOSED] $20,000 Mini-Blockchain Implementation (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=371601.0)

Admittedly BTC was worth much more at that point in time, and I didn't spend 28 BTC on development, but it was more than 20 BTC. And so far I've only been able to mine 2 blocks myself. So I'm sorry if Windows users feel some how robbed, but there were no guarantees when you decided to use this coin and we have a big obvious red warning plastered on the website which explains how experimental this coin is.
They also claim to have SMALLER BLOCKCHAIN,What is the difference?
[NUD ₦ ] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=640933.0

Quote
SECURE
NUD is based on bcrypt, a key-stretching hashing algorithm that exists for 13 years and is based on functions that are more than 30 years old.

COMPLETELY ANONYMOUS
Unlike other alternatives NUD is not just pseudoanonymous but completely anonymous on both the protocol level (TOR) and the blockchain level.

SMALLER BLOCKCHAIN
Other cryptocurrencies blockchains are ever growing and could potentially become so large within the coming years that only centralized servers could store them, NUD actively works on introducing a significantly smaller blockchain which will not compromise on security.

They earlier. .


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: bitfreak! on July 28, 2014, 06:00:24 AM
They also claim to have SMALLER BLOCKCHAIN,What is the difference?
Well the NUD wiki has nothing about why they have a smaller blockchain so I can't tell you, but I'm very sure it's nothing like the mini-blockchain scheme. If NUD uses script then I doubt it's even much smaller than a normal blockchain and I doubt it allows new nodes to sync without requiring the full blockchain.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: hankrules on July 28, 2014, 06:01:50 AM
Has anybody been able to compile the source on ubuntu?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: Coindgr on July 28, 2014, 06:04:59 AM
Anyone in the correct chain can post getpeerinfo command result?

No nodes here...


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: suppersz on July 28, 2014, 06:05:22 AM
They also claim to have SMALLER BLOCKCHAIN,What is the difference?
Well the NUD wiki has nothing about why they have a smaller blockchain so I can't tell you, but I'm very sure it's nothing like the mini-blockchain scheme. If NUD uses script then I doubt it's even much smaller than a normal blockchain and I doubt it allows new nodes to sync without requiring the full blockchain.
NUD use BCRYPT,new algorithm ;D
I mine a bit,CPU coin...


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: nextever on July 28, 2014, 06:09:50 AM
anyboby mined coins now?
I didn't see any transaction :-\


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: hankrules on July 28, 2014, 06:11:07 AM
They also claim to have SMALLER BLOCKCHAIN,What is the difference?
Well the NUD wiki has nothing about why they have a smaller blockchain so I can't tell you, but I'm very sure it's nothing like the mini-blockchain scheme. If NUD uses script then I doubt it's even much smaller than a normal blockchain and I doubt it allows new nodes to sync without requiring the full blockchain.
NUD use BCRYPT,new algorithm ;D
I mine a bit,CPU coin...

There's no doubt that NUD is amazing.  As for XCN, it might be amazing, but I'm still unable to compile on ubuntu.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: ThatDandyMan on July 28, 2014, 06:12:40 AM
Anyone in the correct chain can post getpeerinfo command result?

No nodes here...


http://pastebin.com/wtr9zS1S


I'm using the latest windows QT wallet. (now on correct chain)


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: suppersz on July 28, 2014, 06:14:41 AM
They also claim to have SMALLER BLOCKCHAIN,What is the difference?
Well the NUD wiki has nothing about why they have a smaller blockchain so I can't tell you, but I'm very sure it's nothing like the mini-blockchain scheme. If NUD uses script then I doubt it's even much smaller than a normal blockchain and I doubt it allows new nodes to sync without requiring the full blockchain.
NUD use BCRYPT,new algorithm ;D
I mine a bit,CPU coin...

There's no doubt that NUD is amazing.  As for XCN, it might be amazing, but I'm still unable to compile on ubuntu.
I'm just not sure '1st mini-blockchain implementation'?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: robinf on July 28, 2014, 06:22:28 AM
Relaunch!!!!!

Ok???




You intentionally publish false wallet, does not publish the correct node. and you premine the coin.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: CrazyLeoW on July 28, 2014, 06:25:10 AM
IP Address   222.223.122.5
Location    CHINA, HEBEI, SHIJIAZHUANG
Latitude & Longitude   38.041390, 114.478610 (38°2'29"N   114°28'43"E)
ISP   CHINANET HEBEI PROVINCE NETWORK
Local Time   28 Jul, 2014 12:12 PM (UTC +08:00)
Domain   CHINATELECOM.COM.CN
Net Speed   (DSL) Broadband/Cable
IDD & Area Code   (86) 0311
ZIP Code   130000
Weather Station   SHIJIAZHUANG (CHXX0122)

他妈逼的,DEV是石家庄的!


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: ajeef on July 28, 2014, 06:26:33 AM
IP Address   222.223.122.5
Location    CHINA, HEBEI, SHIJIAZHUANG
Latitude & Longitude   38.041390, 114.478610 (38°2'29"N   114°28'43"E)
ISP   CHINANET HEBEI PROVINCE NETWORK
Local Time   28 Jul, 2014 12:12 PM (UTC +08:00)
Domain   CHINATELECOM.COM.CN
Net Speed   (DSL) Broadband/Cable
IDD & Area Code   (86) 0311
ZIP Code   130000
Weather Station   SHIJIAZHUANG (CHXX0122)

他妈逼的,DEV是石家庄的!

矿工的机器连到节点。。。。。。


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: ThatDandyMan on July 28, 2014, 06:27:30 AM
Relaunch!!!!!

Ok???




You intentionally publish false wallet,does not publish the correct node. and you premine the coin.


They didn't know about the error in the windows wallet because an incredibly high difficulty was needed to reach the error. The testnet hashrate got nowhere near what was needed.

Need some nodes? http://pastebin.com/wtr9zS1S

What proof do you have that the dev premined?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: CrazyLeoW on July 28, 2014, 06:29:42 AM
去你妈逼的中国石家庄傻比,操你大爷,花点BTC搞了个莫须有的破算法出来忽悠,插你妈逼,浪费老子电费!!!死全家!!!


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: syyyn on July 28, 2014, 06:31:43 AM
去你妈逼的中国石家庄傻比,操你大爷,花点BTC搞了个莫须有的破算法出来忽悠,插你妈逼,浪费老子电费!!!死全家!!!

+1 for the translation was great. haha


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: robinf on July 28, 2014, 06:35:58 AM
Relaunch!!!!!

Ok???




You intentionally publish false wallet,does not publish the correct node. and you premine the coin.


They didn't know about the error in the windows wallet because an incredibly high difficulty was needed to reach the error. The testnet hashrate got nowhere near what was needed.

Need some nodes? http://pastebin.com/wtr9zS1S

What proof do you have that the dev premined?

Please tell me the real reason they do not want to relaunch.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: bitfreak! on July 28, 2014, 06:37:25 AM
There's no doubt that NUD is amazing.  As for XCN, it might be amazing, but I'm still unable to compile on ubuntu.
I'm just not sure '1st mini-blockchain implementation'?
I can't find any information about why the NUD blockchain is smaller than a normal blockchain. They have one sentence in the announcement thread claiming to have a smaller blockchain and then nothing to explain why it's smaller. It's extremely unlikely they've done anything to significantly lessen the size of the blockchain. I don't even think the NUD code is open source so you cannot check anything they claim.

EDIT: it is open source and based on a quick glance it definitely appears to use the original blockchain model.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: uvt9 on July 28, 2014, 06:51:10 AM
i think we should get an open source (or closed source but at least public) GPU miner for this coin ASAP. Although this coin is currently CPU-mining but the algorithm is not GPU-resistant. Don't let some programmer with private GPU miner mining sizable amount of new coins.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: wenjiannin on July 28, 2014, 06:53:09 AM
去你妈逼的中国石家庄傻比,操你大爷,花点BTC搞了个莫须有的破算法出来忽悠,插你妈逼,浪费老子电费!!!死全家!!!

To you CrazyLeoW down to Grandpa lick, you know you, grass you


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: ajeef on July 28, 2014, 06:54:15 AM
There's no doubt that NUD is amazing.  As for XCN, it might be amazing, but I'm still unable to compile on ubuntu.
I'm just not sure '1st mini-blockchain implementation'?
I can't find any information about why the NUD blockchain is smaller than a normal blockchain. They have one sentence in the announcement thread claiming to have a smaller blockchain and then nothing to explain why it's smaller. It's extremely unlikely they've done anything to significantly lessen the size of the blockchain. I don't even think the NUD code is open source so you cannot check anything they claim.

nud is open source,at block 25000 only 21M


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: suppersz on July 28, 2014, 06:56:56 AM
There's no doubt that NUD is amazing.  As for XCN, it might be amazing, but I'm still unable to compile on ubuntu.
I'm just not sure '1st mini-blockchain implementation'?
I can't find any information about why the NUD blockchain is smaller than a normal blockchain. They have one sentence in the announcement thread claiming to have a smaller blockchain and then nothing to explain why it's smaller. It's extremely unlikely they've done anything to significantly lessen the size of the blockchain. I don't even think the NUD code is open source so you cannot check anything they claim.

nud is open source,at block 25000 only 21M
I think NUD is '1st mini-blockchain implementation' ;D,And NUD (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=640933.0) more innovative!!!!


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: CoinManiac1 on July 28, 2014, 07:01:33 AM
How to mine this coin?

Got the answer


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: bitfreak! on July 28, 2014, 07:02:38 AM
@ajeef : So where can I find the source for NUD?

@suppersz: I can guarantee you NUD is nothing like the mini-blockchain, we only released the source today, and the wiki is an extremely simplified explanation of how it works and is missing many important details, so it couldn't possibly be anything like the mini-blockchain scheme.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: Shadow_Runner on July 28, 2014, 07:04:00 AM
So windows wallet had no mine function at launch? Nice.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: catia on July 28, 2014, 07:04:31 AM
If you read the white paper, which is like kind of what you should maybe do before mining or investing in a coin. You will see that the MBC does not even really have a block chain. It uses a giant hash trie of account balances. Similar in principle to the proposed Bitcoin Ultimate Blockchain Compression UTXO deal. We also have an extra layer of compression by merging UTXO's into single accounts. As far as I know, there is no real implementation of the ultimate utxo compressor anyways. While the ideas have been talked about for years, with different names and twists, and even alluded to by Satoshi himself,  nobody has actually built it before now.



Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: ajeef on July 28, 2014, 07:05:04 AM
@ajeef : So where can I find the source for NUD?

@suppersz: I can guarantee you NUD is nothing like the mini-blockchain, we only released the source today, and the wiki is an extremely simplified explanation of how it works and is missing many important details, so it couldn't possibly be anything like the mini-blockchain scheme.
pm you.i think we don't need to talk about NUD here


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: uvt9 on July 28, 2014, 07:07:43 AM
There's no doubt that NUD is amazing.  As for XCN, it might be amazing, but I'm still unable to compile on ubuntu.
I'm just not sure '1st mini-blockchain implementation'?
I can't find any information about why the NUD blockchain is smaller than a normal blockchain. They have one sentence in the announcement thread claiming to have a smaller blockchain and then nothing to explain why it's smaller. It's extremely unlikely they've done anything to significantly lessen the size of the blockchain. I don't even think the NUD code is open source so you cannot check anything they claim.

nud is open source,at block 25000 only 21M
I think NUD is '1st mini-blockchain implementation' ;D,And NUD (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=640933.0) more innovative!!!!

NUD still use original blockchain model, not mini-blockchain scheme like Cryptonite. You must provide technical evidence to prove your claim.

NUD also promise 'complete anonymity' but appearently it's just a promise.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: technologible on July 28, 2014, 07:14:15 AM
Is it a test net now?
Anyway looks very promising


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: bitfreak! on July 28, 2014, 07:24:19 AM
Is it a test net now?
Anyway looks very promising
No this is the real thing. Testing is over.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: dr_chen on July 28, 2014, 07:27:55 AM
Is it a test net now?
Anyway looks very promising
No this is the real thing. Testing is over.

How to mine?
Any miner yet? just setgenerate true?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: dadesu on July 28, 2014, 07:31:13 AM
Relaunch pls!   >:(


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: dance on July 28, 2014, 07:32:04 AM
0 active connection(s)


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: CasualSam on July 28, 2014, 07:44:27 AM
Just want to say congratulations to Bitfreak and Catia! You two are an incredible team and this is an great achievement. I had a little bit of insight into the development process and I've never seen such commitment, ability and integrity.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: earnabit on July 28, 2014, 07:52:15 AM
As the miner of the first three blocks who had absolutely no involvement with the development process, I can definitively say there was no pre-mine and the difficulty quickly adjusted to reasonable levels


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: jly77 on July 28, 2014, 07:55:15 AM
Wallet can't sync!!!!


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: server on July 28, 2014, 08:03:10 AM
"errors" : "Warning: Unreachable blocks are being mined. Possible secret chain attack." ??


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: zarton on July 28, 2014, 08:10:22 AM
Wallet can't sync!!!!

Do you have the latest version? If not downlaod from the official site and delete all but wallet from your \appdata\roaming\cryptonite folder and create a file .conf named cryptonite.conf and add these nodes ->

Code:
addnode=209.89.155.70:8253
addnode=60.7.110.116:8253
addnode=24.130.14.88:8253
addnode=14.209.49.147:8253
addnode=98.143.148.83:8253
addnode=24.84.227.184:8253
addnode=188.252.234.97:8253
addnode=66.45.239.67:8253

It worked for me, but i'm not able for mining  ??? I'm only know how to mine with miners soft. and a pool when I try to solo mining never get succes. 


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: server on July 28, 2014, 08:14:37 AM
Is this diff correct ?

difficulty : 1204788037808639967232.00000000



Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: Mouse020 on July 28, 2014, 08:15:44 AM
20 X5650 can not mined one block
what happen
Who mined all?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: Primitive on July 28, 2014, 08:19:36 AM
cant get my miners working.  if anyone is selling PM me thx


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: catia on July 28, 2014, 08:20:55 AM
"errors" : "Warning: Unreachable blocks are being mined. Possible secret chain attack." ??

Secret chain attack is not actually possible right now. That error could be set off if somebody tried to submit a newly mined genesis block. Maybe somebody making a clone or some kind of attack. Never fear it has been deflected whatever it is.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: tobeaj2mer01 on July 28, 2014, 08:25:19 AM
Can somebody give a guide on how to solo mine this coin, the information is so discrete


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: bitfreak! on July 28, 2014, 08:37:42 AM
@DEV, can you give some guide on how to solo mine this coin, the information is so discrete
See this wiki page:
http://cryptonite.info/wiki/index.php?title=Cryptonite_API

To start solo mining you need to use the setgenerate command.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: dance on July 28, 2014, 08:41:24 AM
Wallet can't sync!!!!

Do you have the latest version? If not downlaod from the official site and delete all but wallet from your \appdata\roaming\cryptonite folder and create a file .conf named cryptonite.conf and add these nodes ->

Code:
addnode=209.89.155.70:8253
addnode=60.7.110.116:8253
addnode=24.130.14.88:8253
addnode=14.209.49.147:8253
addnode=98.143.148.83:8253
addnode=24.84.227.184:8253
addnode=188.252.234.97:8253
addnode=66.45.239.67:8253

It worked for me, but i'm not able for mining  ??? I'm only know how to mine with miners soft. and a pool when I try to solo mining never get succes. 


Still '0 active connections'.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: pigheadbig on July 28, 2014, 08:42:06 AM
@DEV, can you give some guide on how to solo mine this coin, the information is so discrete
See this wiki page:
http://cryptonite.info/wiki/index.php?title=Cryptonite_API

To start solo mining you need to use the setgenerate command.
only win64 wallet?
win32 can't open the wallet...


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: bitfreak! on July 28, 2014, 08:49:16 AM
Is this diff correct ?

difficulty : 1204788037808639967232.00000000
Lol no that is definitely wrong. Where did you get that value from? Are you still getting that error about the secret chain attack? It doesn't look like any other nodes are getting that error. Seems like your node is behaving pretty weirdly, maybe try resyncing or something.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Burninj on July 28, 2014, 08:50:10 AM
This coin is a complete mess...
Even with nodes there's no way to synch...

Anyway what's the current good blockchain?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: server on July 28, 2014, 09:15:59 AM
Is this diff correct ?

difficulty : 1204788037808639967232.00000000
Lol no that is definitely wrong. Where did you get that value from? Are you still getting that error about the secret chain attack? It doesn't look like any other nodes are getting that error. Seems like your node is behaving pretty weirdly, maybe try resyncing or something.

Restarted and the error is gone but I still see this strange high diff with getinfo.
Will try again with resync.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Crypto_Enthusiast on July 28, 2014, 09:16:24 AM
I get these error messages when trying to run the wallet on 64 bit windows 8.1:

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e69/Marcus_Crypto-Enthusiast/Untitledddd_zps359cb7f9.jpg

Click ok then:

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e69/Marcus_Crypto-Enthusiast/ssss_zps46ef77a0.jpg

The QT and the .dll's are all in the same folder, extracted to the Program files x86 folder.

How do you fix this?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: bitfreak! on July 28, 2014, 09:22:33 AM
This coin is a complete mess...
Even with nodes there's no way to synch...

Anyway what's the current good blockchain?
The seed nodes appear to be getting quite overloaded, the network is growing much faster than we imagined. It's a fairly common issue with new altcoins, but you can manually add peers to your conf file to help it sync using addnode. Someone posted this link before with a bunch of IP's: http://pastebin.com/6R0nvvnj

And btw the correct block height is about 1500.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: bitfreak! on July 28, 2014, 09:24:53 AM
The QT and the .dll's are all in the same folder, extracted to the Program files x86 folder.
It's a 64bit binary so if you're using a 32bit system it wont work. Sounds like you are using a 64bit OS though, you should have two Program Files folders. You don't want to use the folder with x86 at the end, you want the one without it, just Program Files.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Burninj on July 28, 2014, 09:26:50 AM
18000+ blocks after 8 hours?

Lol thats a joke, guys are you doing again the darkcoin instamine piece of shit scam?

we should be after 8 hours sub 600 blocks...

Edit : ok I'm on the wrong blockchain...


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: bitfreak! on July 28, 2014, 09:27:43 AM
Is this diff correct ?

difficulty : 1204788037808639967232.00000000
Lol no that is definitely wrong. Where did you get that value from? Are you still getting that error about the secret chain attack? It doesn't look like any other nodes are getting that error. Seems like your node is behaving pretty weirdly, maybe try resyncing or something.

Restarted and the error is gone but I still see this strange high diff with getinfo.
Will try again with resync.
Yes it is quite strange, what version did you download? If you could paste your debug.log file on pastebin or something it could be helpful.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Crypto_Enthusiast on July 28, 2014, 09:29:49 AM
The QT and the .dll's are all in the same folder, extracted to the Program files x86 folder.
It's a 64bit binary so if you're using a 32bit system it wont work. Sounds like you are using a 64bit OS though, you should have two Program Files folders. You don't want to use the folder with x86 at the end, you want the one without it, just Program Files.

Thank you for the prompt reply.

I have moved from the x86 folder into the normal Program files folder & I am getting exactly the same error messages.

Please advise


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Burninj on July 28, 2014, 09:30:06 AM
This is hell to get on the right blockchain :(


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: bitfreak! on July 28, 2014, 09:30:36 AM
18000+ blocks after 8 hours?

Lol thats a joke, guys are you doing again the darkcoin instamine piece of shit scam?

we should be after 8 hours sub 600 blocks...
There are currently 1500 blocks. And there was anything but an instamine. We posted the announcement literally seconds after we started mining and the difficulty algorithm adjusted so quickly that it become very hard for me to solo mine after like 5 minutes.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Burninj on July 28, 2014, 09:32:35 AM
There are currently 1500 blocks. And there was anything but an instamine. We posted the announcement literally seconds after we started mining and the difficulty algorithm adjusted so quickly that it become very hard for me to solo mine after like 5 minutes.

Yeah I know that, started mining @ block 13

But please do something, currently I'm running 20 pc and none is on the correct chain, this is a nightmare...


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: bitfreak! on July 28, 2014, 09:36:59 AM
Thank you for the prompt reply.

I have moved from the x86 folder into the normal Program files folder & I am getting exactly the same error messages.

Please advise
You might need to delete the Cryptonite folder in /Users/UserName/AppData/Roaming/


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: bitfreak! on July 28, 2014, 09:39:52 AM
There are currently 1500 blocks. And there was anything but an instamine. We posted the announcement literally seconds after we started mining and the difficulty algorithm adjusted so quickly that it become very hard for me to solo mine after like 5 minutes.

Yeah I know that, started mining @ block 13

But please do something, currently I'm running 20 pc and none is on the correct chain, this is a nightmare...
Sounds like you might still be running the old Windows binary or something. Did you read that the first Windows binary was broken? We released a fixed version which you can download from here (http://cryptonite.info/?page=download).


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: sxh on July 28, 2014, 09:43:02 AM
When the trading platform, I want to buy it.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Crypto_Enthusiast on July 28, 2014, 09:43:47 AM
Thank you for the prompt reply.

I have moved from the x86 folder into the normal Program files folder & I am getting exactly the same error messages.

Please advise
You might need to delete the Cryptonite folder in /Users/UserName/AppData/Roaming/

I done that also. Still the same problem..



Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: kernels10 on July 28, 2014, 09:45:00 AM
Using these nodes posted a page or two ago, I connected just fine :)

I also just compiled from github within the last 10 mins.

Code:
addnode=209.89.155.70:8253
addnode=60.7.110.116:8253
addnode=24.130.14.88:8253
addnode=14.209.49.147:8253
addnode=98.143.148.83:8253
addnode=24.84.227.184:8253
addnode=188.252.234.97:8253
addnode=66.45.239.67:8253



edit:

That diff normal?

getmininginfo:
Code:
{
    "blocks" : 1559,
    "currentblocksize" : 1000,
    "currentblocktx" : 0,
    "difficulty" : 22945.05382547,
    "errors" : "",
    "genproclimit" : -1,
    "networkhashps" : 1063661502,
    "pooledtx" : 0,
    "testnet" : false,
    "generate" : true,
    "hashespersec" : 836082
}


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Burninj on July 28, 2014, 09:46:48 AM
Yup running last build...
There's @ least 6 or 7 forks maybe more for the moment...


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: kernels10 on July 28, 2014, 09:49:34 AM
Yup running last build...
There's @ least 6 or 7 forks maybe more for the moment...

Hi, I am on this fork:
Code:
getblockhash 1550
00000000296026133a2ef2262e81c173729522a4753fc9ebd2abd7ef53a21ca3

How are you?  8)


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: bitfreak! on July 28, 2014, 09:51:53 AM
Yup running last build...
There's @ least 6 or 7 forks maybe more for the moment...

Hi, I am on this fork:
Code:
getblockhash 1550
00000000296026133a2ef2262e81c173729522a4753fc9ebd2abd7ef53a21ca3

How are you?  8)
Yes that is the correct chain. The difficulty should be about 23k and the block count should be about 1575.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Burninj on July 28, 2014, 09:54:19 AM
1 ghs...

Anyone smelling something fishy about this hashrate?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: bitfreak! on July 28, 2014, 10:09:10 AM
1 ghs...

Anyone smelling something fishy about this hashrate?
If you're implying that we have an unreleased GPU miner I can assure you we don't. It's possible someone has created one, but it's highly improbable. We will try our best to have a GPU miner available before anyone else creates their own private GPU miner, but I can't guarantee anything. There seems to be a ridiculously huge number of nodes connecting to the main seed node, it can hardly keep up with it, so the network is probably at a natural hash rate for this many miners.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Crypto_Enthusiast on July 28, 2014, 10:11:20 AM

Thank you for the prompt reply.

I have moved from the x86 folder into the normal Program files folder & I am getting exactly the same error messages.

Please advise
You might need to delete the Cryptonite folder in /Users/UserName/AppData/Roaming/

I done that also. Still the same problem..

What else can I do? I have done everything suggested & I am still getting these error messages:

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e69/Marcus_Crypto-Enthusiast/Untitledddd_zps359cb7f9.jpg

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e69/Marcus_Crypto-Enthusiast/ssss_zps46ef77a0.jpg


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: bitfreak! on July 28, 2014, 10:26:46 AM
Well I'm not sure what else you could try, it might be a Win8 related issue, maybe try a different OS if possible.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Crypto_Enthusiast on July 28, 2014, 10:28:07 AM
Well I'm not sure what else you could try, it might be a Win8 related issue, maybe try a different OS if possible.

Not possible, I only have 1 PC as do many others.

I would of thought that thorough testing on all popular operating systems would of been done prior to launch, I am genuinely interested in this but cannot get it to run - very frustrating.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: bitfreak! on July 28, 2014, 10:29:42 AM
Btw folks it looks like some of that recent weirdness could be due to someone attempting to clone Cryptonite, because there appears to be blocks from an unknown genesis point floating around. It doesn't seem to pose any threat to the current chain, but it might cause weird issues when syncing.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: tiger5056 on July 28, 2014, 10:33:12 AM
wallet not sync. i add some node as shown in before post.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: bitfreak! on July 28, 2014, 10:41:08 AM
Some more nodes posted by catia on IRC:

54.210.111.104
54.91.54.222
54.237.164.185
122.192.189.208
83.212.102.224
54.81.74.247
54.234.32.117
54.204.209.48
183.93.235.186


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: bitfreak! on July 28, 2014, 11:06:07 AM
Well I'm not sure what else you could try, it might be a Win8 related issue, maybe try a different OS if possible.

Not possible, I only have 1 PC as do many others.

I would of thought that thorough testing on all popular operating systems would of been done prior to launch, I am genuinely interested in this but cannot get it to run - very frustrating.
Well if I remember correctly you got it working on Win8.1 in the test thread after you downloaded the dll's. You're not still using the -testnet flag are you? I'm sure if you mess around with it a bit you'll get it to work.

EDIT: the other thing I would recommend trying is redownloading the .exe file and see if that helps.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: thrax on July 28, 2014, 11:18:57 AM
When will you release 32 bit executables for windows?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: sebalino on July 28, 2014, 11:21:45 AM
Yup running last build...
There's @ least 6 or 7 forks maybe more for the moment...

Hi, I am on this fork:
Code:
getblockhash 1550
00000000296026133a2ef2262e81c173729522a4753fc9ebd2abd7ef53a21ca3

How are you?  8)
Any news about BLTR coin ?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Stormbringer on July 28, 2014, 11:21:57 AM
Is this correct now:

{
"blocks" : 1774,
"currentblocksize" : 1000,
"currentblocktx" : 0,
"difficulty" : 26626.03844045,
"errors" : "",
"genproclimit" : 4,
"networkhashps" : 953337996,
"pooledtx" : 0,
"testnet" : false,
"generate" : true,
"hashespersec" : 417426
}



Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: bitfreak! on July 28, 2014, 11:33:20 AM
Is this correct now:

{
"blocks" : 1774,
"currentblocksize" : 1000,
"currentblocktx" : 0,
"difficulty" : 26626.03844045,
"errors" : "",
"genproclimit" : 4,
"networkhashps" : 953337996,
"pooledtx" : 0,
"testnet" : false,
"generate" : true,
"hashespersec" : 417426
}
Yes that is the correct chain.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Yanakitu Tenatako on July 28, 2014, 11:56:37 AM
I am mining with 10 mhash power, no blocks for hours...


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Stormbringer on July 28, 2014, 11:57:33 AM
Is this correct now:

{
"blocks" : 1774,
"currentblocksize" : 1000,
"currentblocktx" : 0,
"difficulty" : 26626.03844045,
"errors" : "",
"genproclimit" : 4,
"networkhashps" : 953337996,
"pooledtx" : 0,
"testnet" : false,
"generate" : true,
"hashespersec" : 417426
}
Yes that is the correct chain.

OK. hope it wont fork again, mined last night on a wrong chain :(


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: tobeaj2mer01 on July 28, 2014, 11:59:34 AM
I mined many blocks but now they all got, what's the wrong ?
e.g.  5ce187c78d648ce89cc7e84573d7f219b5e740241272d2c60b43a1f6063fd54e
a02fb69b8b83e134766f23a3c5ea7a53177933fe89353f6ba0324c6d2de9b60b

status is "found conflict"


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: bitfreak! on July 28, 2014, 12:03:22 PM
I am mining with 10 mhash power, no blocks for hours...
The diff is now at 28k, that's probably to be expected.

Quote
OK. hope it wont fork again, mined last night on a wrong chain
Using the broken Windows build I assume?

Quote
I mined many blocks but now they all got, what's the wrong ?
e.g.  5ce187c78d648ce89cc7e84573d7f219b5e740241272d2c60b43a1f6063fd54e
a02fb69b8b83e134766f23a3c5ea7a53177933fe89353f6ba0324c6d2de9b60b
Looks like you were mining on the wrong chain. Using the first Windows build?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: tobeaj2mer01 on July 28, 2014, 12:07:59 PM


Quote
I mined many blocks but now they all got, what's the wrong ?
e.g.  5ce187c78d648ce89cc7e84573d7f219b5e740241272d2c60b43a1f6063fd54e
a02fb69b8b83e134766f23a3c5ea7a53177933fe89353f6ba0324c6d2de9b60b
Looks like you were mining on the wrong chain. Still using the first Windows build?
[/quote]

I am using the windows build here "http://cryptonite.info/?page=download",not sure if it's the latest one.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: tobeaj2mer01 on July 28, 2014, 12:08:47 PM
If I mine with I7-4930K 3.4GHz, 16G CPU, how many blocks can I mine per day roughly?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: tobeaj2mer01 on July 28, 2014, 12:12:37 PM
I am mining with 10 mhash power, no blocks for hours...
The diff is now at 28k, that's probably to be expected.



Ok, man, my hashpower may be 5M, it's hard to mine, when will the pool be up?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: bitfreak! on July 28, 2014, 12:13:53 PM
I am using the windows build here "http://cryptonite.info/?page=download",not sure if it's the latest one.
If you downloaded it near the start of the launch then it's probably the old version. Just download it again to be safe.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Yanakitu Tenatako on July 28, 2014, 12:18:35 PM
So, gpu is in the game? no fucking way to have such high diff in the start.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: ZantLand on July 28, 2014, 12:19:01 PM
When the trading platform, I want to buy it.


here:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=713718.0



Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: jly77 on July 28, 2014, 12:20:34 PM
How can I insert image?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: cubydu on July 28, 2014, 12:20:51 PM
Amazon EC2

So, gpu is in the game? no fucking way to have such high diff in the start.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: tlo on July 28, 2014, 12:29:09 PM
I am mining with 10 mhash power, no blocks for hours...
The diff is now at 28k, that's probably to be expected.
Ok, man, my hashpower may be 5M, it's hard to mine, when will the pool be up?

I think this applies to Cryptonite as well: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Difficulty#How_soon_might_I_expect_to_generate_a_block.3F
Code:
$ python -c "print 28000 * 2**32 / 5000000 / 60 / 60.0"
6681.05

--> 6681 hours (!) if I did my math correctly


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: daxiake on July 28, 2014, 12:38:26 PM
There's no doubt that NUD is amazing.  As for XCN, it might be amazing, but I'm still unable to compile on ubuntu.
I'm just not sure '1st mini-blockchain implementation'?
I can't find any information about why the NUD blockchain is smaller than a normal blockchain. They have one sentence in the announcement thread claiming to have a smaller blockchain and then nothing to explain why it's smaller. It's extremely unlikely they've done anything to significantly lessen the size of the blockchain. I don't even think the NUD code is open source so you cannot check anything they claim.

nud is open source,at block 25000 only 21M
I think NUD is '1st mini-blockchain implementation' ;D,And NUD (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=640933.0) more innovative!!!!

sorry,i also think NUD is the first reduce blockchain coin.change your title please.

guys,you can download a nud wallet,and have a check.

dev,are you here?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: mana6 on July 28, 2014, 12:43:05 PM
the hash difficult are so strong....


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: dadesu on July 28, 2014, 01:06:58 PM
If I mine with I7-4930K 3.4GHz, 16G CPU, how many blocks can I mine per day roughly?

No one can tell that. I mine for 9h and now finnaly find one block  :)
28.7.2014 14:25
Source: Generated
Credit: 243.0389453736 XCN
Net amount: +243.0389453736 XCN

I7 477K on 3.5GHz


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain implementation | M7 PoW
Post by: othe on July 28, 2014, 01:07:23 PM
There's no doubt that NUD is amazing.  As for XCN, it might be amazing, but I'm still unable to compile on ubuntu.
I'm just not sure '1st mini-blockchain implementation'?
I can't find any information about why the NUD blockchain is smaller than a normal blockchain. They have one sentence in the announcement thread claiming to have a smaller blockchain and then nothing to explain why it's smaller. It's extremely unlikely they've done anything to significantly lessen the size of the blockchain. I don't even think the NUD code is open source so you cannot check anything they claim.

nud is open source,at block 25000 only 21M
I think NUD is '1st mini-blockchain implementation' ;D,And NUD (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=640933.0) more innovative!!!!

sorry,i also think NUD is the first reduce blockchain coin.change your title please.

guys,you can download a nud wallet,and have a check.

dev,are you here?


NUD is nothin more than hot air, so please do us a favour and keeo the talk here on topic, cryptonite is def. one of interesting projects so don't dilute the information here with scam coin advertising.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: jly77 on July 28, 2014, 01:10:44 PM
Assertion failed!

Program win64_cryptonite-qt_14072801.exe
File: trieview.cpp, Line 26

Expression: fread(&m_bestBlock,1,32,filein)>0

Dev, can you have a look at it?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: MisO69 on July 28, 2014, 02:29:54 PM
All those nodes posted earlier seem to be saturated, I cannot get a  connection. Anyone have more nodes? People post your getpeerinfo.

Thanks.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: susu on July 28, 2014, 02:33:15 PM
Too difficult, the base is difficult to dig


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: robinf on July 28, 2014, 02:36:43 PM
Assertion failed!

Program win64_cryptonite-qt_14072801.exe
File: trieview.cpp, Line 26

Expression: fread(&m_bestBlock,1,32,filein)>0

Dev, can you have a look at it?



Quite a lot of people encounter this problem, in win8.

DEV do not care about that, they just mining and sell!!


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: shojayxt on July 28, 2014, 02:55:46 PM
The new way to instamine.  Give your buddies working builds and source so they can mine.  Post nonworking builds and source for everyone else.   Ignore requests for working nodes so that nobody else can sync up to the correct fork.  Claim everything is perfect.  I wouldn't have these thoughts if it wasn't for the amount of people.  Many of them long time members having problems compiling or getting synced up.  Then DEv says they have only mined 2 blocks themselves and all is good.  No relaunch.  It's your fault you used the binaries provided that won't sync to the correct fork.  You wasted your time?  Oh well.  Me and my buddies have most of the coins.  We're just waiting to get listed on exchange so we can dump and run.

The coin launch was a joke and a relaunch should have happened.

Dev says spent tens of thousands on development and launches with non working binaries and buggy source code that people couldn't compile.

Like I said earlier.  Could have been good but now it's just another shitcoin mined by a few people in on the scam.

I don't have many friends on this forum and I'll likely have even more enemies after this post but it's clear as day what's going on here.  This was a planned unfair launch so a few could get a jump on mining while the difficulty was low.  Even a blind monkey could see this.



Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: wenjiannin on July 28, 2014, 03:13:10 PM
When the trading platform, I want to buy it.


here:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=713718.0




WTS  10K=1BTC  PM ME :)


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: server on July 28, 2014, 03:26:47 PM

WTS  10K=1BTC  PM ME :)

is to hard solo  i have only  five coin  ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Primitive on July 28, 2014, 03:28:10 PM
how can i view total XCN supply?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: earnabit on July 28, 2014, 03:31:16 PM
how can i view total XCN supply?

The award is about 243. Use getblockcount which as of right now yields 2200 so 2200*243=534600 xcn right now


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: uvt9 on July 28, 2014, 03:32:23 PM
how can i view total XCN supply?

The award is about 243. Use getblockcount which as of right now yields 2200 so 2200*243=534600 xcn right now

Really ? Blocks are being generated too fast, we're at 2200+ now but it is supposed to be around 900.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Primitive on July 28, 2014, 03:35:12 PM
is there a way to generate a "rich list" or somehow explore the wallet addresses. 

i dont want to jump to any conclusions, but it seems like the early mining might not have been distributed that well.  one of the things i liked about this coin i show the launch seemed like it was going to spread the coins out more than IPO launches.  but i wonder if it did the opposite.  some people with massive CPU farms or botnets?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: othe on July 28, 2014, 03:38:52 PM
how can i view total XCN supply?

The award is about 243. Use getblockcount which as of right now yields 2200 so 2200*243=534600 xcn right now

Really ? Blocks are being generated too fast, we're at 2200+ now but it is supposed to be around 900.

No its not, as long as the nethash grows there no way to be on "correct" difficulty, this takes some time. Making the diff too fast adjusting is dangerous.


is there a way to generate a "rich list" or somehow explore the wallet addresses. 

i dont want to jump to any conclusions, but it seems like the early mining might not have been distributed that well.  one of the things i liked about this coin i show the launch seemed like it was going to spread the coins out more than IPO launches.  but i wonder if it did the opposite.  some people with massive CPU farms or botnets?

Theres no way to prevent that, theres always someone with more resources like you and well everyone can use for example cloudmining.
It costs money like gpu mining or whatever else and its risky, it may or may not pay out in the end.

You depend on a lot of greedy miners to secure the network, thats it, the more greed the better basically in terms of network security ;)


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: syyyn on July 28, 2014, 03:42:56 PM
 ::) :P :-[ ??? ??? ??? ??? ;D ;D ;D ;D Fail.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: watuba on July 28, 2014, 03:43:25 PM

Theres no way to prevent that, theres always someone with more resources like you and well everyone can use for example cloudmining.
It costs money like gpu mining or whatever else and its risky, it may or may not pay out in the end.

You depend on a lot of greedy miners to secure the network, thats it, the more greed the better basically in terms of network security ;)

Shaping up to be a really secure network then!


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Frangomel on July 28, 2014, 03:45:39 PM
My wallet windows qt is working but always on wrong chain. I deleted whole appdata directory and with every start always wrong chain. When I type getinfo into console it shows diff 1.0000. Is there something I am doing wrong or maybe to add nodes on config file????


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Primitive on July 28, 2014, 03:47:07 PM
My wallet windows qt is working but always on wrong chain. I deleted whole appdata directory and with every start always wrong chain. When I type getinfo into console it shows diff 1.0000. Is there something I am doing wrong or maybe to add nodes on config file????

before you put too much effort in...  consider that it might take you a week+ to mine a single block.  the network seems to be dominated by pro miners.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: othe on July 28, 2014, 03:49:23 PM

Theres no way to prevent that, theres always someone with more resources like you and well everyone can use for example cloudmining.
It costs money like gpu mining or whatever else and its risky, it may or may not pay out in the end.

You depend on a lot of greedy miners to secure the network, thats it, the more greed the better basically in terms of network security ;)

Shaping up to be a really secure network then!

Well,

There are roughly around 1000 low/midrange cpus mining atm.
(Divide the nethash / yourminingspeed and you will see).



Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Mouse020 on July 28, 2014, 03:57:42 PM
It will hit 1GBH/S
Wow
"networkhashps" : 84 281 2817,



Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: ThatDandyMan on July 28, 2014, 04:07:29 PM
Assertion failed!

Program win64_cryptonite-qt_14072801.exe
File: trieview.cpp, Line 26

Expression: fread(&m_bestBlock,1,32,filein)>0

Dev, can you have a look at it?



Quite a lot of people encounter this problem, in win8.

DEV do not care about that, they just mining and sell!!

No need to spread FUD buddy. If you join the IRC you'd see what the devs are doing to help the coin. :)


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Hix on July 28, 2014, 04:09:07 PM
Really crazy diff for CPU coin :)

Hash network
922,760,368


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Stormbringer on July 28, 2014, 04:20:34 PM

WTS  10K=1BTC  PM ME :)

is to hard solo  i have only  five coin  ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

thanks for exposing scammer.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: bitwho on July 28, 2014, 04:25:43 PM
great. the network hashrate is too high. gpu must be out. please share it.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: DonQuijote on July 28, 2014, 04:28:21 PM
The new way to instamine.  Give your buddies working builds and source so they can mine.  Post nonworking builds and source for everyone else.   Ignore requests for working nodes so that nobody else can sync up to the correct fork.  Claim everything is perfect.  I wouldn't have these thoughts if it wasn't for the amount of people.  Many of them long time members having problems compiling or getting synced up.  Then DEv says they have only mined 2 blocks themselves and all is good.  No relaunch.  It's your fault you used the binaries provided that won't sync to the correct fork.  You wasted your time?  Oh well.  Me and my buddies have most of the coins.  We're just waiting to get listed on exchange so we can dump and run.

The coin launch was a joke and a relaunch should have happened.

Dev says spent tens of thousands on development and launches with non working binaries and buggy source code that people couldn't compile.

Like I said earlier.  Could have been good but now it's just another shitcoin mined by a few people in on the scam.

I don't have many friends on this forum and I'll likely have even more enemies after this post but it's clear as day what's going on here.  This was a planned unfair launch so a few could get a jump on mining while the difficulty was low.  Even a blind monkey could see this.


http://i898.photobucket.com/albums/ac190/notyouraveragealt/a.gif


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: ThatDandyMan on July 28, 2014, 04:38:18 PM
The new way to instamine.  Give your buddies working builds and source so they can mine.  Post nonworking builds and source for everyone else.   Ignore requests for working nodes so that nobody else can sync up to the correct fork.  Claim everything is perfect.  I wouldn't have these thoughts if it wasn't for the amount of people.  Many of them long time members having problems compiling or getting synced up.  Then DEv says they have only mined 2 blocks themselves and all is good.  No relaunch.  It's your fault you used the binaries provided that won't sync to the correct fork.  You wasted your time?  Oh well.  Me and my buddies have most of the coins.  We're just waiting to get listed on exchange so we can dump and run.

The coin launch was a joke and a relaunch should have happened.

Dev says spent tens of thousands on development and launches with non working binaries and buggy source code that people couldn't compile.

Like I said earlier.  Could have been good but now it's just another shitcoin mined by a few people in on the scam.

I don't have many friends on this forum and I'll likely have even more enemies after this post but it's clear as day what's going on here.  This was a planned unfair launch so a few could get a jump on mining while the difficulty was low.  Even a blind monkey could see this.



I was the one who instamined 6 or so blocks before anyone else got on the network, not the devs. The Windows build worked perfectly until block 443 when the net hash went too high, a problem the devs could not have fixed in the testnet.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: watuba on July 28, 2014, 04:40:32 PM


I was the one who instamined 6 or so blocks before anyone else got on the network, not the devs. The Windows build worked perfectly until block 443 when the net hash went too high, a problem the devs could not have fixed in the testnet.

Man, those could be collectibles someday.  It's too bad you can't sell those coins as collectibles for more or something.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: watuba on July 28, 2014, 04:47:49 PM
The new way to instamine.  Give your buddies working builds and source so they can mine.  Post nonworking builds and source for everyone else.   Ignore requests for working nodes so that nobody else can sync up to the correct fork.  Claim everything is perfect.  I wouldn't have these thoughts if it wasn't for the amount of people.  Many of them long time members having problems compiling or getting synced up.  Then DEv says they have only mined 2 blocks themselves and all is good.  No relaunch.  It's your fault you used the binaries provided that won't sync to the correct fork.  You wasted your time?  Oh well.  Me and my buddies have most of the coins.  We're just waiting to get listed on exchange so we can dump and run.

The coin launch was a joke and a relaunch should have happened.

Dev says spent tens of thousands on development and launches with non working binaries and buggy source code that people couldn't compile.

Like I said earlier.  Could have been good but now it's just another shitcoin mined by a few people in on the scam.

I don't have many friends on this forum and I'll likely have even more enemies after this post but it's clear as day what's going on here.  This was a planned unfair launch so a few could get a jump on mining while the difficulty was low.  Even a blind monkey could see this.



There was a thread for over a month where the developers were vetting the code and everyone had a chance to help out and get things running smoothly on their computers.  It's a completely new tech, and yet surprisingly easy to get running on Linux(one dependency different than bitcoin itself).  

Please don't over-exaggerate the two hours that the Windows miners were locked out.  For weeks there was a test Linux client available to all.  For those of you who joined today and are just in it for a quick profit, move along.  For anyone else sincerely interested in getting some coins, there's already a good trading thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=713718.0


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Primitive on July 28, 2014, 04:53:03 PM
Please don't over-exaggerate the two hours that the Windows miners were locked out.

i was one of those people and it was pretty sucky.  i won 2 blocks pretty easily, then when the fork hit at block ~450, i got forked and since then - despite great effort - have been unable to mine a single block.  now that the diff is so high i think i have to buy from other miners.

not the end of the world, but please dont dismiss the frustration of the windows miners.  we did basically get screwed.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Primitive on July 28, 2014, 04:54:59 PM
does the number of active connections matter?  is this the same as nodes?  as long as i'm synched and on the right block, is it ok to only have 1 or 2 active connections?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: shojayxt on July 28, 2014, 04:58:09 PM
The new way to instamine.  Give your buddies working builds and source so they can mine.  Post nonworking builds and source for everyone else.   Ignore requests for working nodes so that nobody else can sync up to the correct fork.  Claim everything is perfect.  I wouldn't have these thoughts if it wasn't for the amount of people.  Many of them long time members having problems compiling or getting synced up.  Then DEv says they have only mined 2 blocks themselves and all is good.  No relaunch.  It's your fault you used the binaries provided that won't sync to the correct fork.  You wasted your time?  Oh well.  Me and my buddies have most of the coins.  We're just waiting to get listed on exchange so we can dump and run.

The coin launch was a joke and a relaunch should have happened.

Dev says spent tens of thousands on development and launches with non working binaries and buggy source code that people couldn't compile.

Like I said earlier.  Could have been good but now it's just another shitcoin mined by a few people in on the scam.

I don't have many friends on this forum and I'll likely have even more enemies after this post but it's clear as day what's going on here.  This was a planned unfair launch so a few could get a jump on mining while the difficulty was low.  Even a blind monkey could see this.



There was a thread for over a month where the developers were working on the code and everyone had a chance to help out and get things running smoothly on their computers.  It's a completely new tech, and yet surprisingly easy to get running on Linux(not that different than bitcoin itself).  

Please don't over-exaggerate the two hours that the Windows miners were locked out.  For weeks there was a test Linux client available to all.  For those of you who joined today and are just in it for a quick profit, move along.  For anyone else sincerely interested in getting some coins, there's already a good trading thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=713718.0

What about all the posts from people that couldn't compile the source?  These were not new members but people that know their way around compiling source.  I tried on three different boxes and got build errors on all of them.  Also, why did the requests for a working node go unanswered?  I was sincerely interested in mining this coin but there were some serious obstacles that many people were having.

The Windows users that wasted hours trying to mine this coin will likely feel different about being "locked out".  Then there are the ones that were mining only to find out that the coin was forking and all their coins were worthless or disappeared when they finally got on the correct fork after the difficulty was so high that they couldn't get any coins.  So I don't think I'm exaggerating at all.

The first few pages of the two threads for this coin says it all.   But like every other shitcoin there will be a base of fanboys claiming it's the best thing since sliced bread.  Nothing new here.    


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Primitive on July 28, 2014, 04:59:36 PM
But like every other shitcoin there will be a base of fanboys claiming it's the best thing since sliced bread.  Nothing new here.    

i dont think this is a shitcoin, but its silly to pretend the launch went even close to smoothly.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: freeworm on July 28, 2014, 05:27:12 PM
XCN is added to Bter.com 's BTC market at

https://bter.com/trade/XCN_BTC

Deposit and get 1% bonus at

https://bter.com/myaccount/deposit/XCN

Here's the current client info:

    "version" : 10100,
    "protocolversion" : 10000,
    "walletversion" : 10000,
    "balance" : "0.0000000000ep",
    "blocks" : 2376,
    "headers" : 2376,
    "timeoffset" : 0,
    "connections" : 4,
    "proxy" : "",
    "difficulty" : 37471.86478953,

peers:
83.212.96.211:8253
54.242.149.115:8253
124.231.55.2:8253
60.7.110.116:8253



Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: CryptoLyon on July 28, 2014, 05:54:58 PM
Lets see. New coin already listed at bter with a 900 satoshi buy order on a 1.84 billion supply coin? That is a red flag for me already!


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Primitive on July 28, 2014, 05:59:52 PM
Lets see. New coin already listed at bter with a 900 satoshi buy order on a 1.84 billion supply coin? That is a red flag for me already!

how come? what math are you using?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: jasemoney on July 28, 2014, 06:06:07 PM
as a windows miner I was able to get 2 blocks overnight after the windows build was re-released with the change. it was still anybodys game at that time.  The wallet synced and has been fine.  (current block 2432)


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: shojayxt on July 28, 2014, 06:10:31 PM
Lets see. New coin already listed at bter with a 900 satoshi buy order on a 1.84 billion supply coin? That is a red flag for me already!

Ha ha.  Of course this coin gets listed right away.  That was the plan from the beginning.  Nothing new here at all.  Standard practice these days.




Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Hix on July 28, 2014, 06:15:00 PM
XCN is added to Bter.com 's BTC market at

https://bter.com/trade/XCN_BTC

Deposit and get 1% bonus at

https://bter.com/myaccount/deposit/XCN

Here's the current client info:

    "version" : 10100,
    "protocolversion" : 10000,
    "walletversion" : 10000,
    "balance" : "0.0000000000ep",
    "blocks" : 2376,
    "headers" : 2376,
    "timeoffset" : 0,
    "connections" : 4,
    "proxy" : "",
    "difficulty" : 37471.86478953,

peers:
83.212.96.211:8253
54.242.149.115:8253
124.231.55.2:8253
60.7.110.116:8253


I didn`t see  Announcement on first page or tweeter


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Amph on July 28, 2014, 06:18:13 PM
how come this is already on exchange so fast, fishy coin we have here


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Hix on July 28, 2014, 06:19:23 PM
how come this is already on exchange so fast, fishy coin we have here
Very fast  :)


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Primitive on July 28, 2014, 06:19:34 PM
how come this is already on exchange so fast, fishy coin we have here

remember the exchanges can do whatever the heck they want and list or delist anything at any time.  nothing to do with the devs.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: catia on July 28, 2014, 07:20:48 PM
New seed online 206.72.193.148


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Primitive on July 28, 2014, 07:22:05 PM
New seed online 206.72.193.148
what does that mean?  should i add as a node?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Yanakitu Tenatako on July 28, 2014, 07:36:27 PM
With 50 CPUs I cannot get block... R U kidding me? CPU coin, yeah right....
I am VERY VERY disappointed. Only 2 blocks from start and then nothing for 12 hrs...

Revise your statement and do this coin right. This looks like BS to me.

 


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: jasemoney on July 28, 2014, 07:47:23 PM
can someone come up with an emission graph for the block reward? expected coins to be created vs a timeline.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Burninj on July 28, 2014, 07:52:10 PM
With 50 CPUs I cannot get block... R U kidding me? CPU coin, yeah right....
I am VERY VERY disappointed. Only 2 blocks from start and then nothing for 12 hrs...

Revise your statement and do this coin right. This looks like BS to me.

 

There's already at least a gpu miner running...


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: othe on July 28, 2014, 07:58:24 PM
With 50 CPUs I cannot get block... R U kidding me? CPU coin, yeah right....
I am VERY VERY disappointed. Only 2 blocks from start and then nothing for 12 hrs...

Revise your statement and do this coin right. This looks like BS to me.

 

I had far less cpus and got far more blocks.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Primitive on July 28, 2014, 07:59:00 PM
I had far less cpus and got far more blocks.

any recent blocks?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: exciter0 on July 28, 2014, 08:03:42 PM
A better question to ask is when can we expect standalone miners and mining pools to show up?
If we all continue to mine like this, a lot of hashes are wasted.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: shojayxt on July 28, 2014, 08:06:28 PM
A better question to ask is when can we expect standalone miners and mining pools to show up?
If we all continue to mine like this, a lot of hashes are wasted.

You're actually mining this shit?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: jasemoney on July 28, 2014, 08:21:17 PM
A better question to ask is when can we expect standalone miners and mining pools to show up?
If we all continue to mine like this, a lot of hashes are wasted.

You're actually mining this shit?
if your not why bother posting?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: exciter0 on July 28, 2014, 08:21:41 PM

You're actually mining this shit?


Yes, I actually like this "shit".  ;D Unlike other new coins, devs are not hiding behind newbie accounts and they're genuinely helpful.

Had some luck and mined a few blocks last night, but I doubt I'll get anything today. Like many people here, sure I had problems with wallet, with linux source, etc... finally got it compiled in the end.

The thing I don't understand from the devs is why the precompiled linux binaries weren't statically linked so that people can grab and start mining right away?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: catia on July 28, 2014, 08:35:07 PM
We had statically linked binaries for awhile in the testing thread. It breaks address space layout randomization and you have to build with --disable-hardening. Ended up moving away from that for release and the dynamic binaries were available for testing. If  you follow the instructions for building bitcoin, like adding PPA, or using oldstable on debian, then the needed libraries are only an apt-get away. Of course doesn't work on different distro or different release.

For some reason the uploaded source would not compile. Afaict there is nothing missing, but alas it didn't work. I was in the process of cloning github and trying to build when it really hit the fan on windows. Things were hectic to say the least. Network hashrate during the storm was similar to what we have now, so it's not clear that the mined blocks in that period had significantly reduced difficulty in spite of various problems.


Standalone miner is something I'm working on now. We have setup thousands of nodes of seed capacity and it's not enough. Seems all the cloud miners are not accepting incoming connection and only about 1% of seed peers are reachable. Since all the miners are essentially locked down we need to get them off the network.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: smooth on July 28, 2014, 08:57:58 PM
i dont want to jump to any conclusions, but it seems like the early mining might not have been distributed that well.  one of the things i liked about this coin i show the launch seemed like it was going to spread the coins out more than IPO launches.  but i wonder if it did the opposite.  some people with massive CPU farms or botnets?

Theres no way to prevent that, theres always someone with more resources like you and well everyone can use for example cloudmining.

Since this happens on almost every single new coin it is worth pointing out that there is a way to prevent these kinds of very early mining issues when you are ramping up hash rate and difficulty from zero (with literally no chain history over which to run a difficulty retarget, so this is not exactly the same as a growing nethash later). You have the reward slowly ramp up over some time period (days to weeks) to avoid the extreme hash rate traffic jam at the beginning.

This also reduces the cost to people who can't mine at the very beginning due to various launch issues (builds that don't work on certain operating systems, etc.).

Too late for this coin but any future coins that want to avoid intentional or unintentional instamine issues at the very beginning should do this.

EDIT: credit to gmaxwell for the idea


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Amph on July 28, 2014, 09:07:00 PM
how come this is already on exchange so fast, fishy coin we have here

remember the exchanges can do whatever the heck they want and list or delist anything at any time.  nothing to do with the devs.

yeah and they picked exactly this  ::)


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Primitive on July 28, 2014, 09:51:09 PM
has anyone does an analysis of where XCN should be in terms of exchange price?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Burninj on July 28, 2014, 09:53:03 PM
0.1 btc  ;D

it should even replace btc...


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Primitive on July 28, 2014, 09:54:04 PM
0.1 btc  ;D

it should even replace btc...

ha. ok maybe some day.  but today, in terms of coin supply, and the coins specs etc....  what would be a fair price to sell for at BTER?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: smooth on July 28, 2014, 09:57:54 PM
0.1 btc  ;D

it should even replace btc...

ha. ok maybe some day.  but today, in terms of coin supply, and the coins specs etc....  what would be a fair price to sell for at BTER?

Parity with BTC given coin supply is about 0.01. Insert your judgement and price accordingly.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: shojayxt on July 28, 2014, 10:04:45 PM

You're actually mining this shit?


Yes, I actually like this "shit".  ;D Unlike other new coins, devs are not hiding behind newbie accounts and they're genuinely helpful.

Had some luck and mined a few blocks last night, but I doubt I'll get anything today. Like many people here, sure I had problems with wallet, with linux source, etc... finally got it compiled in the end.

The thing I don't understand from the devs is why the precompiled linux binaries weren't statically linked so that people can grab and start mining right away?

Because they didn't want everyone to be able to mine until they got all the low difficulty coins.  It's just another way to instamine/premine while looking like you're not.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: provenceday on July 28, 2014, 10:34:47 PM
hard to mine this coin! :o


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: exciter0 on July 28, 2014, 10:38:24 PM

Because they didn't want everyone to be able to mine until they got all the low difficulty coins.  It's just another way to instamine/premine while looking like you're not.

I don't think that was their intentions, on the contrary, I think catia offered an honest explanation already.
Wallet mining sucks, and you probably should stop mining (if not already) and channel your energy into buying some coins from an exchange.
Ask yourself this, how many new coins has gained this much interest from Monero devs? :) I think Cryptonite has a bright future.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Primitive on July 28, 2014, 10:51:00 PM
not much action in the sales thread so wanted to inquire here if anyone is selling.  prices seem outrageous over at BTER.  so if any miners want to do bulk deals, please send me a PM thanks


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: earnabit on July 28, 2014, 11:45:44 PM
not much action in the sales thread so wanted to inquire here if anyone is selling.  prices seem outrageous over at BTER.  so if any miners want to do bulk deals, please send me a PM thanks

The prices are high because this isn't a typical pump and dump. Welcome to auto adjusting difficulties


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Primitive on July 28, 2014, 11:47:59 PM
not much action in the sales thread so wanted to inquire here if anyone is selling.  prices seem outrageous over at BTER.  so if any miners want to do bulk deals, please send me a PM thanks

The prices are high because this isn't a typical pump and dump. Welcome to auto adjusting difficulties

only a select few can mine successfully.  and now they will control the market.  not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing?

regular folks dont stand a chance of mining with their "CPU"

not going to stop me from buying, but this is almost less democratic than an IPO


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: othe on July 28, 2014, 11:50:50 PM
proof of work means, you do work and the more work you do the more you get paid. if someone does more work than you he gets paid more.
Nothing unfair about that.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Primitive on July 28, 2014, 11:54:49 PM
proof of work means, you do work and the more work you do the more you get paid. if someone does more work than you he gets paid more.
Nothing unfair about that.

of course technically you are right but...

come on... its a land grab and we all know it.  the only "work" being recognized is from the privileged few who got organized with giant rigs, or aws, to get early coins.  its not like they are securing a super active blockchain full of non-mining transactions.  they are just mining the sh*t out of it, to sell it on exchanges to people like me who are going to mine 1 block every 2 weeks.



Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: bitfreak! on July 29, 2014, 12:46:28 AM
proof of work means, you do work and the more work you do the more you get paid. if someone does more work than you he gets paid more.
Nothing unfair about that.

of course technically you are right but...

come on... its a land grab and we all know it.  the only "work" being recognized is from the privileged few who got organized with giant rigs, or aws, to get early coins.  its not like they are securing a super active blockchain full of non-mining transactions.  they are just mining the sh*t out of it, to sell it on exchanges to people like me who are going to mine 1 block every 2 weeks.
Everything in life is a fight over resources. And I'm in exactly the same boat as you, I only have a crappy laptop and a gaming pc. Granted the gaming setup is a bit of a beast, but since I can only CPU mine there's not much point trying with such a high difficulty. I either have to rent out mining rigs or buy XCN directly. In fact I'm looking to buy about 1 or 2 thousand XCN if anyone is selling. I might try out Bter, looks like a decent exchange. And for those people who think there's something suspicious about Bter adding XCN to their exchange, I didn't even know about it until just now. I've been asleep for the last 9 hours and when I returned I had multiple PM's from Bter saying they had added XCN to their exchange.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: CrazyLeoW on July 29, 2014, 12:48:11 AM
WTS  10K=1BTC  PM ME :)
wenjiannin fucked his/her mother with mechanical tools.
Liar, shame on you.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: smooth on July 29, 2014, 12:50:31 AM
Everything in life is a fight over resources.

Yes but the extreme chaos of launches is easily avoided using the approach gmaxwell suggested to me (and I paraphrased above).

Slowly ramp up the rewards. The first day is always a cluster fuck. At best it is an honest cluster fuck, at worst we have some well known instamine scam coins.

Far better to simply reduce the value and significance of everything that happens very early.



Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: coinfusion on July 29, 2014, 01:43:26 AM
Since Shinycoin started with only wallet mining, it had this exact same problem at launch: all the seed nodes were flooded with connections from AWS instances at the very start, so it was extremely difficult for anyone coming in late to sync up.  I'm running the cryptonite dameon right now and ~80% of my connections are used up by Amazon addresses!!  I'm going to modify my dameon to block EC2 network ranges right now.  It would be interesting if a "CPU only" coin would launch with them blocked in the official verison............

edit: just firewalled it.  Also noticed quite a few connections from okeanos.grnet.gr -- Academic research at its finest?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: escapeX on July 29, 2014, 01:54:54 AM
nice coin with high price....but i can mine nothing...


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: tacee on July 29, 2014, 02:11:16 AM
@Dev,please relaunch XCN


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: bitfreak! on July 29, 2014, 03:25:35 AM
@Dev,please relaunch XCN
For the last and final time, we are not going to relaunch just because some Windows people missed an hour or two of early mining. And it wasn't until like block 443 that the Windows people forked, so they didn't really miss out on the early mining anyway. Furthermore, if we did relaunch, the amount of energy wasted would be absolutely huge compared to the insignificant amount wasted by Windows miners.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: smooth on July 29, 2014, 03:34:14 AM
@Dev,please relaunch XCN
For the last and final time, we are not going to relaunch just because some Windows people missed an hour or two of early mining.

But you should relaunch because someone else mined more than I did.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: provenceday on July 29, 2014, 03:40:45 AM
dev

how about list this on bittrex or poloniex?

also coinmarketcap?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: zxbball on July 29, 2014, 05:14:09 AM
how mach total coinsupply?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: catia on July 29, 2014, 05:23:00 AM
Some new builds are up. http://gpile.it/mbc/

901 vintage has support for a standalone miner. The windows binary is included there. Source available at https://github.com/MiniblockchainProject/Minerd
Standalone should have pretty much the same performance as wallet miner.

There was a bug in older builds that over-reported hash rate by a factor of 2. So don't freak out and think it's slower. Same speed, correct number.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: bitfreak! on July 29, 2014, 06:06:00 AM
how mach total coinsupply?
1.84 billion coins in total, half mined after 10 years.

One interesting aspect of the mini-blockchain scheme is that you can quickly check how many coins are left to mine because all block rewards are subtracted from the coinbase account (http://cryptonite.info/wiki/index.php?title=Coinbase_account). The address of the coinbase account is CGTta3M4t3yXu8uRgkKvaWd2d8DQvDPnpL and you can check the balance of the coinbase account like so:

listbalances 1 [\"CGTta3M4t3yXu8uRgkKvaWd2d8DQvDPnpL\"]

I checked it a few minutes ago and there were 1,843,923,137 XCN left to mine. You can calculate how many have been mined so far by subtracting the current balance from the starting balance. Since we have 64 bits of granularity and we use 10 decimal places, then the starting balance was about 1,844,674,407 XCN and the amount of coins mined so far is equal to:

1844674407 - 1843923137 = 751270

So 751k XCN mined so far if my math is correct.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Primitive on July 29, 2014, 06:07:54 AM
So 751k XCN mined so far.

and 243 of those bad boys are mine!  #goWindowsQT


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Eleonore on July 29, 2014, 06:13:17 AM
shit! this coin is so hot and i miss it!!!!!!! ???


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: ajeef on July 29, 2014, 07:52:13 AM
Some new builds are up. http://gpile.it/mbc/

901 vintage has support for a standalone miner. The windows binary is included there. Source available at https://github.com/MiniblockchainProject/Minerd
Standalone should have pretty much the same performance as wallet miner.

There was a bug in older builds that over-reported hash rate by a factor of 2. So don't freak out and think it's slower. Same speed, correct number.

use cpuminerd ...100+pc 1hour no blocks ??? ??? ??? ???


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: wenjiannin on July 29, 2014, 07:55:20 AM
Some new builds are up. http://gpile.it/mbc/

901 vintage has support for a standalone miner. The windows binary is included there. Source available at https://github.com/MiniblockchainProject/Minerd
Standalone should have pretty much the same performance as wallet miner.

There was a bug in older builds that over-reported hash rate by a factor of 2. So don't freak out and think it's slower. Same speed, correct number.

use cpuminerd ...100+pc 1hour no blocks ??? ??? ??? ???

o bad men  don`t warry, the same to you


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Passion_ltc on July 29, 2014, 07:59:31 AM
WTB quite a few of these. Please PM me with your offer. :)


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Primitive on July 29, 2014, 08:04:30 AM
WTB quite a few of these. Please PM me with your offer. :)


available at bter.com


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: yang5034 on July 29, 2014, 08:09:24 AM
the wallet still can't open on win8.1


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Passion_ltc on July 29, 2014, 08:14:37 AM
WTB quite a few of these. Please PM me with your offer. :)


available at bter.com

I want to buy at current price of 5000, not at 9000. ;)


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Primitive on July 29, 2014, 08:16:19 AM
I want to buy at current price of 5000, not at 9000. ;)

what do you mean "current price"?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Passion_ltc on July 29, 2014, 08:18:51 AM
I want to buy at current price of 5000, not at 9000. ;)

what do you mean "current price"?

People are selling for 8000, but buying for 4000. So where is the current price? Somewhere inbetween.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: catia on July 29, 2014, 08:21:37 AM
the wallet still can't open on win8.1

can you try to run in compatibility mode for an older windows?

http://www.eightforums.com/attachments/tutorials/30328d1382848717-compatibility-mode-use-windows-8-8.1_compatibility_mode-2.jpg


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: voldemort628 on July 29, 2014, 08:36:51 AM
WTB a few at 0.00005 BTC/XCN


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Joshua.Dan on July 29, 2014, 08:53:34 AM
chinese communicate group 305462924  :)

Introducation: http://www.btc38.com/altcoin/xcn


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: wenjiannin on July 29, 2014, 08:55:02 AM
WTB a few at 0.00005 BTC/XCN

WTB a few at 0.00007885BTC/XCN  ON cn.bter.com


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Yanakitu Tenatako on July 29, 2014, 09:04:14 AM
@Dev,please relaunch XCN
For the last and final time, we are not going to relaunch just because some Windows people missed an hour or two of early mining. And it wasn't until like block 443 that the Windows people forked, so they didn't really miss out on the early mining anyway. Furthermore, if we did relaunch, the amount of energy wasted would be absolutely huge compared to the insignificant amount wasted by Windows miners.

How do you explain 1 minute block time and more than 2500 blocks found on first day instead of 1440?
Early fork?
Problems with sync to network?
Too much orphaned blocks?
So high hashrate nearly at start (big interest in coin, yea...it is, but thats not it)?

Standalone miners had NO CHANCE of getting any coins, except first 90 minutes. And no pool.
Something is very very wrong here.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: myagui on July 29, 2014, 09:10:38 AM
Standalone miners had NO CHANCE of getting any coins, except first 90 minutes. And no pool.
Something is very very wrong here.

Windows miner here, ran a single i7 on this from launch. As with other windows users, I lost a bunch of hours when I was hashing away with a bugged wallet version, but in any case, I've managed to mine 3 blocks: #21, #93 (older wallet), and #2271 (new wallet). Solo mining is a massive gamble as soon as diff get's high enough.

Nothing is very very wrong here.
~ Myagui


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: bitfreak! on July 29, 2014, 09:19:05 AM
@Dev,please relaunch XCN
For the last and final time, we are not going to relaunch just because some Windows people missed an hour or two of early mining. And it wasn't until like block 443 that the Windows people forked, so they didn't really miss out on the early mining anyway. Furthermore, if we did relaunch, the amount of energy wasted would be absolutely huge compared to the insignificant amount wasted by Windows miners.

How do you explain 1 minute block time and more than 2500 blocks found on first day instead of 1440?
There was about 1440 mined on the first day, just not on the broken Windows chain.

Quoting catia:
Quote
The windows chain is not viable. The difficulty adjustment had no effect, so all those coins were mined with minimum difficulty.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: btc38 on July 29, 2014, 09:41:53 AM
Btc38 added XCN/BTC
http://www.btc38.com/trade_en.html?mk_type=btc&btc38_trade_coin_name=xcn

transaction fee: 0.1%
1% bonus at deposit and 1% withdrawl fee

service:
email:support@mail.btc38.com
skype: btc38.com and support@mail.btc38.com



Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: qq386437050 on July 29, 2014, 09:49:50 AM
Miners tool it can be released


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Joshua.Dan on July 29, 2014, 10:06:20 AM
Wow, another biggist CNY exchange add XCN.
Hi dev
Please let more poeple know this coin.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: lemons on July 29, 2014, 10:17:04 AM
we need pool


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: catia on July 29, 2014, 10:19:48 AM
we need pool

Yeah we do. Somebody with some python experience could probably whip something up around the standalone miner and getwork in short order. Hopefully someone will step up.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Sev0 on July 29, 2014, 10:45:26 AM
Some new builds are up. http://gpile.it/mbc/

901 vintage has support for a standalone miner. The windows binary is included there. Source available at https://github.com/MiniblockchainProject/Minerd
Standalone should have pretty much the same performance as wallet miner.

There was a bug in older builds that over-reported hash rate by a factor of 2. So don't freak out and think it's slower. Same speed, correct number.

use cpuminerd ...100+pc 1hour no blocks ??? ??? ??? ???
This coin isn't memorycoin (another algorithm including sha512 but not m7), so the miner won't work on our coin here. It's a wet dream that this miner works because there's a gpu miner for the memorycoin too.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Passion_ltc on July 29, 2014, 11:26:17 AM
How many coins are mined each day?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: restless on July 29, 2014, 11:28:31 AM
Some new builds are up. http://gpile.it/mbc/

901 vintage has support for a standalone miner. The windows binary is included there. Source available at https://github.com/MiniblockchainProject/Minerd
Standalone should have pretty much the same performance as wallet miner.

There was a bug in older builds that over-reported hash rate by a factor of 2. So don't freak out and think it's slower. Same speed, correct number.

How to use this standalone minerd?!


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: ajeef on July 29, 2014, 11:30:19 AM
Some new builds are up. http://gpile.it/mbc/

901 vintage has support for a standalone miner. The windows binary is included there. Source available at https://github.com/MiniblockchainProject/Minerd
Standalone should have pretty much the same performance as wallet miner.

There was a bug in older builds that over-reported hash rate by a factor of 2. So don't freak out and think it's slower. Same speed, correct number.

How to use this standalone minerd?!

minerd --url http://127.0.0.1:RPCPORT/ --user RPCUSER --pass RPCPASSWORD --threads 2

but...use it solo 2hours with 100+ E3 1230V3 no block


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: nakaone on July 29, 2014, 11:32:17 AM
where to put the missing dll in windows 7?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: bitfreak! on July 29, 2014, 11:33:54 AM
where to put the missing dll in windows 7?
Same folder as the cryptonite exe.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: restless on July 29, 2014, 11:34:50 AM
Some new builds are up. http://gpile.it/mbc/

901 vintage has support for a standalone miner. The windows binary is included there. Source available at https://github.com/MiniblockchainProject/Minerd
Standalone should have pretty much the same performance as wallet miner.

There was a bug in older builds that over-reported hash rate by a factor of 2. So don't freak out and think it's slower. Same speed, correct number.

How to use this standalone minerd?!

minerd --url http://127.0.0.1:RPCPORT/ --user RPCUSER --pass RPCPASSWORD --threads 2

but...use it solo 2hours with 100+ E3 1230V3 no block
Can you share the conf file too?
I found only
Code:
rpcuser=user
rpcpassword=pass
rpcallowip=192.168.0.*
rpcport=5555
listen=1
daemon=1
server=1
logtimestamps=1
But frankly I have no idea if the port is important and which to use. Maybe 8252?!


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: ajeef on July 29, 2014, 11:36:56 AM
Can you share the conf file too?
I found only
Code:
rpcuser=user
rpcpassword=pass
rpcallowip=192.168.0.*
rpcport=5555
listen=1
daemon=1
server=1
logtimestamps=1
But frankly I have no idea if the port is important and which to use. Maybe 8252?!
listen=1
daemon=1
server=1
gen=0
testnet=0
rpcuser=user
rpcpassword=pass
rpcport=8252
rpcthreads=128
maxconnections=50000
rpcconnect=192.168.1.2(your pc ip)
rpcallowip=*.*.*.*


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: hardroad on July 29, 2014, 11:39:21 AM
we need pool  ???


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Burninj on July 29, 2014, 11:41:54 AM
We need a public gpu miner...


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: restless on July 29, 2014, 11:42:03 AM
10x it worked!
Code:
rpcuser=user
rpcpassword=pass
rpcallowip=XX.YY.ZZ.*
rpcport=8252
listen=1
daemon=1
server=1
logtimestamps=1

But, given your example I'll still try mining through wallet. Got 1 block for 6 hours with 18 cores... :/


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: coolmyrig on July 29, 2014, 11:43:58 AM
 0.00007885 BTC/XCN  ON cn.bter.com,!  ;D  the price is too low.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Hix on July 29, 2014, 11:58:14 AM
I don`t understand standalone miner finding blocks or no?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: myagui on July 29, 2014, 12:01:43 PM
Yes. /Me found block #3406 using the standalone cpu miner about 50m ago.
~ Myagui


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: ajeef on July 29, 2014, 12:04:44 PM
Yes. /Me found block #3406 using the standalone cpu miner about 50m ago.
~ Myagui
win 64?How long?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: myagui on July 29, 2014, 12:10:28 PM
Yes. /Me found block #3406 using the standalone cpu miner about 50m ago.
~ Myagui
win 64?How long?

Win8 x64, latest wallet & using minerd (7 threads i7 @ stock clocks). See the 5m gap between starting the miner and finding a block  8)
Nothing for the following hour though.

Code:
[12:03:15] 7 miner threads started, using M7 Proof-of-Work algorithm.
[12:08:01] Found share ...000000000070debab5b188ca66ab9fb0d8b9b1e656e41f1a472c8a672743ce06: submitting
[12:08:02] PROOF OF WORK RESULT: Accepted

Cheers,
~ Myagui


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: prix on July 29, 2014, 12:15:04 PM
I check the blockchain. Nothing strange. Total is 840k XCN. Block is 3455.
It has about 400 addresses.
About 200 addresses has > 100 XCN.
About 40 addresses has > 1000 XCN.
Top 10 (some is exchanges):
Code:
CNCzEBdvxzKSsGGdeqdGv17zuyWLeyAFvw: 246445,61
CeRad61n2RprFzywneKAkYN9bwFBu4yW2H: 188345,31
CZXiHFhK13AMLFWSp4eZ54N3F64JDcVPV6: 113825,43
Cd8gZ8MxqzeubBVuAnP2DzeLpvLn51sBR5: 35787
CazXGa3A2pxPqNanW4Yyy7peWeGcwHKFwT: 28284,861
CM3niKEDbjkmy5VJFdJT355mo3u9mow1UC: 18994
CeBwh8ncuvyC2XUbHEThupnqC8eZQSmoTx: 18959,766
CVKRikdNU5waPmDpn5bqwAisxDdMDEG1hR: 12149,893
CURgxdxewKiKxNYPtRpaHFnTRBSbtUCAzU: 10450,023
Cd6uyTic26h48MMKtJdDuSzhkG2qGsGgBh: 9715,396

Maybe I made ​​a error somewhere, a slightly different format output than bitcoins (simpler, inputs / outputs not exists),
but the total number of coins converges and the number of coins in my address too.

I have ~300kH/s (8 cores). Network has ~850MH/s. My share of the total is ~1/2833.
It's mean I can mine 1 block per 2 days.

Dev, will transaction info gone after 10000 blocks?
Will someone be kept full version of the blockchain (from 0 block)?

This is unusual - something really new, without any IPO and things like that.



Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Hix on July 29, 2014, 12:22:32 PM
Yes. /Me found block #3406 using the standalone cpu miner about 50m ago.
~ Myagui
win 64?How long?

Win8 x64, latest wallet & using minerd (7 threads i7 @ stock clocks). See the 5m gap between starting the miner and finding a block  8)
Nothing for the following hour though.

Code:
[12:03:15] 7 miner threads started, using M7 Proof-of-Work algorithm.
[12:08:01] Found share ...000000000070debab5b188ca66ab9fb0d8b9b1e656e41f1a472c8a672743ce06: submitting
[12:08:02] PROOF OF WORK RESULT: Accepted

Cheers,
~ Myagui
thx :)


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: bitfreak! on July 29, 2014, 12:39:22 PM
a slightly different format output than bitcoins (simpler, inputs / outputs not exists)
The transactions don't use scripts so they are much simpler, but they can have multiple inputs and/or outputs but I'm not sure if any transactions so far do. Keep in mind the inputs and outputs point to addresses, they don't point to other transactions like a normal bitcoin-based coin does.

Dev, will transaction info gone after 10000 blocks?
Will someone be kept full version of the blockchain (from 0 block)?
I'm sure lots of nodes will keep the full blockchain for one reason or another, it's their choice whether they want to delete old blocks or not. The network is basically designed to operate in "bitcoin mode" for the first two weeks, meaning all nodes will sync by downloading the full blockchain, but after that time it will switch over to "pruned mode", meaning brand new nodes will only require the previous 10k blocks to sync with the network and become a full node. It's going to be a bit scary when the switch happens but we've survived the switch before on the testnet during the month of testing we did. And I think catia has a plan to make sure everything goes as smoothly as possible.

Note: To free up disk space by deleting old blocks when we enter pruned mode you could just run resync to delete all the old data and start again, but we'll also have a prune/purge command which will delete old blocks without requiring a resync.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: cubydu on July 29, 2014, 12:47:36 PM
dev

how about list this on bittrex or poloniex?

also coinmarketcap?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: frankkkkkkk on July 29, 2014, 12:52:05 PM
why xcn can launth btc38 and bter as same time


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: wyj1888 on July 29, 2014, 01:01:55 PM
you konw , ahah!!


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: bitfreak! on July 29, 2014, 01:10:23 PM
a slightly different format output than bitcoins (simpler, inputs / outputs not exists)
The transactions don't use scripts so they are much simpler, but they can have multiple inputs and/or outputs but I'm not sure if any transactions so far do. Keep in mind the inputs and outputs point to addresses, they don't point to other transactions like a normal bitcoin-based coin does.

Dev, will transaction info gone after 10000 blocks?
Will someone be kept full version of the blockchain (from 0 block)?
I'm sure lots of nodes will keep the full blockchain for one reason or another, it's their choice whether they want to delete old blocks or not. The network is basically designed to operate in "bitcoin mode" for the first two weeks, meaning all nodes will sync by downloading the full blockchain, but after that time it will switch over to "pruned mode", meaning brand new nodes will only require the previous 10k blocks to sync with the network and become a full node. It's going to be a bit scary when the switch happens but we've survived the switch before on the testnet during the month of testing we did. And I think catia has a plan to make sure everything goes as smoothly as possible.

Note: To free up disk space by deleting old blocks when we enter pruned mode you could just run resync to delete all the old data and start again, but we'll also have a prune/purge command which will delete old blocks without requiring a resync.
Just quoting my post from the bottom of the last page because I think it's important information.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: prix on July 29, 2014, 01:21:23 PM
Just quoting my post from the bottom of the last page because I think it's important information.
Yes, it's important. Thanks!


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: freeworm on July 29, 2014, 01:27:01 PM
why xcn can launth btc38 and bter as same time

Nope. Bter.com added one day ahead


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: jly77 on July 29, 2014, 01:27:19 PM
why xcn can launth btc38 and bter as same time

笑而不语


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Passion_ltc on July 29, 2014, 01:49:58 PM
WTB XCN, PM me with your offer. I'm buying in bulks! :)


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: btc38 on July 29, 2014, 01:58:10 PM
why xcn can launth btc38 and bter as same time


Not the same time, we did a reserch for two days and found it is very good coin.
the author have very good background.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: aloney on July 29, 2014, 02:03:49 PM
this coin is a shit, people can't compile in linux, and also there's wrong chain on win wallet, but it's curious that there's too much hashpower at the beginning because somebody prepared for everything without any errors, but the rest with many errors, i'm out of this coin


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: vpncoin on July 29, 2014, 02:16:33 PM
A good coin which break the record.

congratulations!



Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: bitfreak! on July 29, 2014, 02:18:45 PM
this coin is a shit, people can't compile in linux, and also there's wrong chain on win wallet, but it's curious that there's too much hashpower at the beginning because somebody prepared for everything without any errors, but the rest with many errors, i'm out of this coin
Look, the simple fact is this coin is way more fair than any of the other pre-mined IPO bullshit that you'll get around here. We didn't prepare anything to intentionally fail, if we were looking to make a good profit we simply would have pre-mined. But we didn't, we did everything we could to ensure a fair launch. We designed the difficulty adjustment algorithm to adapt quickly and prevent an instamine, we posted this announcement thread literally seconds after we started mining ourselves (ask the people who were on IRC at the time or examine the blockchain yourself), we didn't have any pre-mine or any type of IPO crap, we posted a pre-announcement thread a week before launch, we did over a month of public beta testing (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=643758) to weed out bugs. I'm sorry that we had a faulty Windows build near the start, but it still didn't prevent Windows people from mining any of the first 440 blocks and we released a fix in about an hour after the problem was noticed. And I believe the problem compiling on linux was due to a bad github upload, but that problem was also promptly fixed and people are now compiling on linux fine.

Having said all that, let me get the door for you so I can see you out.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: watuba on July 29, 2014, 02:26:51 PM
Btc38 added XCN/BTC
http://www.btc38.com/trade_en.html?mk_type=btc&btc38_trade_coin_name=xcn

transaction fee: 0.1%
1% bonus at deposit and 1% withdrawl fee

service:
email:support@mail.btc38.com
skype: btc38.com and support@mail.btc38.com



I can't believe this.  I've never seen a coin added by bter and btc38 in the first two days. Two of the largest exchanges, and the two largest exchanges in China.  Darkcoin took over two months to get listed on those exchanges and had to vote its way on.  


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: nakaone on July 29, 2014, 02:32:41 PM
I have extreme problems to understand how big the current block reward is - can anyone shortly clarify?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: yang5034 on July 29, 2014, 02:34:31 PM
this coin is a shit, people can't compile in linux, and also there's wrong chain on win wallet, but it's curious that there's too much hashpower at the beginning because somebody prepared for everything without any errors, but the rest with many errors, i'm out of this coin
Look, the simple fact is this coin is way more fair than any of the other pre-mined IPO bullshit that you'll get around here. We didn't prepare anything to intentionally fail, if we were looking to make a good profit we simply would have pre-mined. But we didn't, we did everything we could to ensure a fair launch. We designed the difficulty adjustment algorithm to adapt quickly and prevent an instamine, we posted this announcement thread literally seconds after we started mining ourselves (ask the people who were on IRC at the time or examine the blockchain yourself), we didn't have any pre-mine or any type of IPO crap, we posted a pre-announcement thread a week before launch, we did over a month of public beta testing (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=643758) to weed out bugs. I'm sorry that we had a faulty Windows build near the start, but it still didn't prevent Windows people from mining any of the first 440 blocks and we released a fix in about an hour after the problem was noticed. And I believe the problem compiling on linux was due to a bad github upload, but that problem was also promptly fixed and people are now compiling on linux fine.

Having said all that, let me get the door for you so I can see you out.

win8.1 still can't open the wallet,can you solve this problem.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Hix on July 29, 2014, 02:37:51 PM
Some new builds are up. http://gpile.it/mbc/

901 vintage has support for a standalone miner. The windows binary is included there. Source available at https://github.com/MiniblockchainProject/Minerd
Standalone should have pretty much the same performance as wallet miner.

There was a bug in older builds that over-reported hash rate by a factor of 2. So don't freak out and think it's slower. Same speed, correct number.

How to use this standalone minerd?!

minerd --url http://127.0.0.1:RPCPORT/ --user RPCUSER --pass RPCPASSWORD --threads 2

but...use it solo 2hours with 100+ E3 1230V3 no block
Hashrate bigger or lower on standalone miner?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: myagui on July 29, 2014, 02:40:29 PM
Catia (main dev here), posted that the standalone miner would report half the hashrate of the previous in-wallet miner, but that it was just a display bug, so performance is effectively unchanged. There's no practical way to verify the accuracy of the miner's performance since there are no pools yet.

Edit: To be clear: the bug was that earlier hashrate was incorrectly reported (too high). So now you get a smaller hashrate reported, but it should be accurate.
 
Cheers,
~ Myagui


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: bitfreak! on July 29, 2014, 02:41:47 PM
Quote
win8.1 still can't open the wallet,can you solve this problem.
It seems like other people have it running on 8.1, did you try running it in compatibility mode? Maybe try XP or Win7 mode.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: watuba on July 29, 2014, 02:50:55 PM
Honestly guys, if you read the pre-ann thread and the development thread, you'll see that these devs went out of their way to get this thing running as quickly and fairly as possible.  They wanted to make it so fair that it actually seems they forgot to pay themselves for the work.  I don't know them personally, but from what I've seen over the past month, I 100% believe them when they say they only mined 2 blocks each.  If you mine or buy some at this early stage, consider donating a bit to them.  Not only did they do a great job so far, they have a lot of work ahead of them.  It's the right thing to do.  Or, if you purely think of it terms of money, think of it as a good incentive for those doing all the work.  I just donated a portion of the coins I bought to bitfreak! and catia.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: ajeef on July 29, 2014, 02:57:07 PM
there are gpu miner....i and my friend have 400+ pc...1 hour only 2-3 blocks..
CNCzEBdvxzKSsGGdeqdGv17zuyWLeyAFvw:    246445
CeRad61n2RprFzywneKAkYN9bwFBu4yW2H:    188345
CZXiHFhK13AMLFWSp4eZ54N3F64JDcVPV6:    113825


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Primitive on July 29, 2014, 03:02:28 PM
there are gpu miner....i and my friend have 400+ pc...1 hour only 2-3 blocks..
CNCzEBdvxzKSsGGdeqdGv17zuyWLeyAFvw:    246445
CeRad61n2RprFzywneKAkYN9bwFBu4yW2H:    188345
CZXiHFhK13AMLFWSp4eZ54N3F64JDcVPV6:    113825

no problem.  cheaper XCN on Bter soon :)


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: bitfreak! on July 29, 2014, 03:02:50 PM
Quote
win8.1 still can't open the wallet,can you solve this problem.
It seems like other people have it running on 8.1, did you try running it in compatibility mode? Maybe try XP or Win7 mode.
Well I have confirmation from multiple people that Qt is working on Windows 8.0 and 8.1 without changing the compatibility mode, so I'm not exactly sure what your issue is.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: ObscureBean on July 29, 2014, 03:06:20 PM
Any idea when the 32bit version of the windows wallet will be ready?
You're alienating a LOT of people by not having it available at launch. I'm sorry, I really liked your project from the start but the launch just feels a little rushed.
Anyway, hope you gonna have the wallet ready soon.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: bitfreak! on July 29, 2014, 03:13:17 PM
I can't believe this.  I've never seen a coin added by bter and btc38 in the first two days. Two of the largest exchanges, and the two largest exchanges in China.  Darkcoin took over two months to get listed on those exchanges and had to vote its way on.  
Yeah it's quite amazing, I'm not sure why we got listed so quick, I guess they see the innovation behind Cryptonite and wanted to get in on the action early. They are taking quite a bold and brave step to add XCN to their exchange this early in the game, so I applaud them. lazycoins.com also said they are working on adding XCN to their exchange but I'm not sure how much progress they've made. I think they wanted to be the first exchange to list XCN because they are new, but unfortunately for them bter and btc38 beat them to the punch.

And thanks a tonne for that donation, it is very much appreciated.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: bitfreak! on July 29, 2014, 03:26:58 PM
Any idea when the 32bit version of the windows wallet will be ready?
I can't really say, maybe a few weeks, maybe more. We'll put it near the top of the priority list but right now catia is the only developer and he has a lot to do. If we get more developers working on Cryptonite then things might speed up. Getting a GPU miner made and a pool setup is also high on our priority list.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Hank.H on July 29, 2014, 03:34:16 PM
Hey dev, why do you want to stay anonymous ?

http://i.imgur.com/OqZLodT.png


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: myagui on July 29, 2014, 03:36:09 PM
You do know that domain privacy tools are mostly used to prevent spam right? There's plenty of other valid reasons, but I don't think anything will satisfy the tinfoil hats...  ;D
~ Myagui


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Wolf0 on July 29, 2014, 03:38:31 PM
there are gpu miner....i and my friend have 400+ pc...1 hour only 2-3 blocks..
CNCzEBdvxzKSsGGdeqdGv17zuyWLeyAFvw:    246445
CeRad61n2RprFzywneKAkYN9bwFBu4yW2H:    188345
CZXiHFhK13AMLFWSp4eZ54N3F64JDcVPV6:    113825

GPU miner? No... not yet.  ;D

Hey dev, why do you want to stay anonymous ?

http://i.imgur.com/OqZLodT.png

It's possible he doesn't want possible stalkers or serial killers like yourself hunting him down. Just a thought.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: ajeef on July 29, 2014, 03:42:11 PM
usb very hot    ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: mustang77 on July 29, 2014, 03:45:38 PM
Is this related to superman?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Hix on July 29, 2014, 03:46:10 PM
there are gpu miner....i and my friend have 400+ pc...1 hour only 2-3 blocks..
CNCzEBdvxzKSsGGdeqdGv17zuyWLeyAFvw:    246445
CeRad61n2RprFzywneKAkYN9bwFBu4yW2H:    188345
CZXiHFhK13AMLFWSp4eZ54N3F64JDcVPV6:    113825

GPU miner? No... not yet.  ;D

Hey dev, why do you want to stay anonymous ?

http://i.imgur.com/OqZLodT.png

It's possible he doesn't want possible stalkers or serial killers like yourself hunting him down. Just a thought.
Wolf do you have opimizated cpu-miner ?))


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Wolf0 on July 29, 2014, 03:46:42 PM
there are gpu miner....i and my friend have 400+ pc...1 hour only 2-3 blocks..
CNCzEBdvxzKSsGGdeqdGv17zuyWLeyAFvw:    246445
CeRad61n2RprFzywneKAkYN9bwFBu4yW2H:    188345
CZXiHFhK13AMLFWSp4eZ54N3F64JDcVPV6:    113825

GPU miner? No... not yet.  ;D

Hey dev, why do you want to stay anonymous ?

http://i.imgur.com/OqZLodT.png

It's possible he doesn't want possible stalkers or serial killers like yourself hunting him down. Just a thought.
Wolf do you have opimizated cpu-miner ?))

Maaaaaybe.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Hank.H on July 29, 2014, 03:54:30 PM
It was just a question :) I will not knock at your door lol.
USBcoin has the same registrar so i'm a little septic now.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Moon Follow Me on July 29, 2014, 04:23:52 PM
can you tell more on how block reward changes? what's current reward?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: marklin on July 29, 2014, 04:24:23 PM
gpu??? no???


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: zhaohui on July 29, 2014, 04:26:17 PM
still can not sync at windows using windows wallet?????????


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Hix on July 29, 2014, 04:34:04 PM
It's possible he doesn't want possible stalkers or serial killers like yourself hunting him down. Just a thought.
Wolf do you have opimizated cpu-miner ?))

Maaaaaybe.
[/quote] Maybe you share it?  :)


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Burninj on July 29, 2014, 04:35:16 PM
And we passed 0.00015


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: restless on July 29, 2014, 05:57:51 PM
Anyone who can compile for OpenSuse? Installed Berkeley 4.8 as described, but still ./configure says that BDB c++ headers are missing :/


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: catia on July 29, 2014, 06:09:53 PM
Anyone who can compile for OpenSuse? Installed Berkeley 4.8 as described, but still ./configure says that BDB c++ headers are missing :/

usually there is a separate package for libdb++, although on debian based distros libdb-dev includes both c++/c headers


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Passion_ltc on July 29, 2014, 06:11:57 PM
WTB Cryptonite for several BTC! Please message me! :)


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: gaazje on July 29, 2014, 06:17:40 PM
1.84 billion coins? trading at 0.00012? Why?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: ajeef on July 29, 2014, 06:20:44 PM
1.84 billion coins? trading at 0.00012? Why?

most coin in three address

CNCzEBdvxzKSsGGdeqdGv17zuyWLeyAFvw:    246445
CeRad61n2RprFzywneKAkYN9bwFBu4yW2H:    188345
CZXiHFhK13AMLFWSp4eZ54N3F64JDcVPV6:    113825


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: PeaMine on July 29, 2014, 06:21:19 PM
Is there a tutorial for standalone mining on Linux?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: BChydro on July 29, 2014, 06:33:38 PM
Does anyone know how difficulty relates to hashrate? Doesn't seem to follow the standard rule.
Eg. for every 1 point of difficulty in BTC/LTC/DRK it takes on average 65536^2 hashes to find a block.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: arielbit on July 29, 2014, 06:38:43 PM
i can't mine with my cpu..no pools either


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: catia on July 29, 2014, 06:44:23 PM
Does anyone know how difficulty relates to hashrate? Doesn't seem to follow the standard rule.
Eg. for every 1 point of difficulty in BTC/LTC/DRK it takes on average 65536^2 hashes to find a block.

It requires log2(diff) + 16 zero's in the hash. 8000 diff is exactly twice as hard as 4000. In XCN the target hashes are high precision with 256 bits, can see the target hash with getwork rpc.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: cryptohunter on July 29, 2014, 06:46:57 PM
1.84 billion coins? trading at 0.00012? Why?


just hold and wait for the correction to .0000012


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: wenjiannin on July 29, 2014, 06:51:25 PM
so the hero meber,today this coin is  0.00015BTC/1xcn  I LOVE .


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: cryptohunter on July 29, 2014, 06:59:28 PM
so the hero meber,today this coin is  0.00015BTC/1xcn  I LOVE .

Too cheap. Buy more and get it to a respectable price please. I will only enter at 0.01 or more.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: wenjiannin on July 29, 2014, 07:14:30 PM
so the hero meber,today this coin is  0.00015BTC/1xcn  I LOVE .

Too cheap. Buy more and get it to a respectable price please. I will only enter at 0.01 or more.

I love to talk this,TANKES. i hope   0.01BTC/1XCN  :) :) :) :) :) :)


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Uran0s on July 29, 2014, 07:27:21 PM
so the hero meber,today this coin is  0.00015BTC/1xcn  I LOVE .

Too cheap. Buy more and get it to a respectable price please. I will only enter at 0.01 or more.

What is special about this coin it may reach this level?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Passion_ltc on July 29, 2014, 07:27:44 PM
so the hero meber,today this coin is  0.00015BTC/1xcn  I LOVE .

Too cheap. Buy more and get it to a respectable price please. I will only enter at 0.01 or more.

What is special about this coin it may reach this level?

Check the front page? Very innovative, very good for mobile devices.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Crypto_Enthusiast on July 29, 2014, 07:35:23 PM

You guys do realise that there are around 800,000 coins around at the moment right? The 18.4 billion cap will take years to reach. It is cheap right now.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Passion_ltc on July 29, 2014, 07:36:43 PM

You guys do realise that there are around 800,000 coins around at the moment right? The 18.4 billion cap will take years to reach. It is cheap right now.

We need a blockchain explorer. Is one in the works?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: myagui on July 29, 2014, 07:37:34 PM
+ emission graph!
Any takers?  :)
~ Myagui


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Passion_ltc on July 29, 2014, 07:41:02 PM
+ emission graph!
Any takers?  :)
~ Myagui

I want to know at what time how many coins exist. (average)


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: cubydu on July 29, 2014, 07:54:49 PM
https://poloniex.com/ ? https://bittrex.com/ ?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Hix on July 29, 2014, 08:00:16 PM
https://poloniex.com/ ? https://bittrex.com/ ?
+100
Dev we need europian-american exchange too like mintpal, poloniex or bittrex.
Did you contact with them?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Passion_ltc on July 29, 2014, 08:00:44 PM
https://poloniex.com/ ? https://bittrex.com/ ?
+100
Dev we need europian-american exchange too like mintpal, poloniex or bittrex.
Did you contact with them?

You all can contact them. I already wrote Bittrex and Poloniex. But you should also do it!


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: bitwho on July 29, 2014, 08:01:26 PM
im not buying this coin until all the obtimized miners are out and there is more evidence of a fairer distribution.


other wise i will wait few days until the 15 minute fame its over and the exchanges are overflown with sell orders.


buying it right now its just feeding the 10 people who are mining this coin like crazy,

noticed how no one is posting how they found a block ?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: sammrr on July 29, 2014, 08:23:46 PM
I found a block. Day of mining on Ubuntu VM on an iMac


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Burninj on July 29, 2014, 08:41:49 PM
CNCzEBdvxzKSsGGdeqdGv17zuyWLeyAFvw:    246445
CeRad61n2RprFzywneKAkYN9bwFBu4yW2H:    188345
CZXiHFhK13AMLFWSp4eZ54N3F64JDcVPV6:    113825

well with a distribution pattern like that I smell a huge fail coming...

Same scam like darkcoin happening again...
I dumped what I had and I'll wait something less scammy, maybe first clone when public gpu mining will be available...


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: smooth on July 29, 2014, 08:48:12 PM
CNCzEBdvxzKSsGGdeqdGv17zuyWLeyAFvw:    246445
CeRad61n2RprFzywneKAkYN9bwFBu4yW2H:    188345
CZXiHFhK13AMLFWSp4eZ54N3F64JDcVPV6:    113825

well with a distribution pattern like that I smell a huge fail coming...

Same scam like darkcoin happening again...

You realize the rewards for this coin are gradually reduced in half over ten years?

Please compare this with DRK and report your conclusion.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: catia on July 29, 2014, 08:49:12 PM
Those addresses could be exchanges, i dunno. The few large miners I know of seem to have 30k or so.

Minerd/getwork appears to have an issue. It works fine if your mining 1 instance of minerd per wallet. With more, aka private pool, it doesn't work right because getwork is only generating new work 1/sec or so. I changed getwork to always generate new work when called. This will however create very large load on the daemon. Not sure what the best way to use it is. New builds will be up shortly. 904/905


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: BChydro on July 29, 2014, 09:04:21 PM
I feel like something is weird about the difficulty. Difficulty has hardly increased from 12 hours ago, but I'm finding ~10x less blocks compared to then. I'm mining on 340 CPU cores so I shouldn't see THAT much statistical variation


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Hix on July 29, 2014, 09:06:33 PM
Woo
"networkhashps" : 1,013,425,342


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: catia on July 29, 2014, 09:18:08 PM
I feel like something is weird about the difficulty. Difficulty has hardly increased from 12 hours ago, but I'm finding ~10x less blocks compared to then. I'm mining on 340 CPU cores so I shouldn't see THAT much statistical variation

If the difficulty hasn't changed, it's not any harder to mine. Hugely random. 10x sounds bad, but if it's maybe 3x higher than should have been 1 day, and 1/3 of expected the next, that's almost nothing.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: kkraus69 on July 29, 2014, 09:28:11 PM
Hello, I have the miner working in the latest wallet 1407290 version but cannot figure out how to use minerd on multiple CPUs with the same wallet. I'm not sure what to write in the batch file.

Any help with an example will be very much appreciated.

This coin looks great and I want a block or more!
Thank you.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: jorneyflair on July 29, 2014, 10:01:03 PM
CNCzEBdvxzKSsGGdeqdGv17zuyWLeyAFvw:    246445
CeRad61n2RprFzywneKAkYN9bwFBu4yW2H:    188345
CZXiHFhK13AMLFWSp4eZ54N3F64JDcVPV6:    113825

well with a distribution pattern like that I smell a huge fail coming...

Same scam like darkcoin happening again...

You realize the rewards for this coin are gradually reduced in half over ten years?

Please compare this with DRK and report your conclusion.

i feel that is good for the price at the beginning stage , dev got massive quantity and he will definitely pump and protect the coin , yes , its really sad but welcome to the crypto ! money talks .
you should just mine/buy without complaining ;D after dev and which most important is dumping before him and moving on to the next coin , never ever get back to it with whistling saying GG

did you see the coins with 0 premine and no instamining or fork problem which smelled "fair" were always prooved to be scam?

well , if you wanna a "fair" , learn the coding and make your own coin , you r GOD in your own coin , is that clear? >:(

Looking back of Dark , the only reason that it had been pumped like rocket was because that the half of total quantity of 40 years darkcoins had been instamined in 1(yes,only one fucking day , maybe just a laptop mining) and not just hyping of anonymous , the hyping was just a method of pumping and attracting. the price of huge instamining coins will easily been pumped up while he keep buying the rest of coins from miners in a rediculous high price then hype the "new feature" and finally dumping like a hell , thats why the fucking bonus formula of Darkcoin is 2222222/(((Difficulty+2600)/9)^2), less reward mining late ;)

and its how the game plays, got it?  sadly the BTC created this rule ;D


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: catia on July 29, 2014, 10:20:23 PM
hold up on minerd. going to plan C


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: jorneyflair on July 29, 2014, 10:27:36 PM
how come this is already on exchange so fast, fishy coin we have here
dumping it b4 him and moving on to the next ;D


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: othe on July 29, 2014, 10:40:49 PM
how come this is already on exchange so fast, fishy coin we have here
dumping it b4 him and moving on to the next ;D



If you can't see the work that was involved here you must be blind or just technically related an idi...

Tired of fools like you down talking every interesting project just to pump some scam shit coin on another thread.
I found myself more than enough blocks with some rented resources and bet some money on it, like every other miner who sees potential here too.

If you aren't willing to risk something to get a return than donīt wine when someone else found more.


PS: It doesn't introduce some "new feature", the blockchain is more or less based on a different technology but i guess you didn't even read the Wiki.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: myagui on July 29, 2014, 10:41:54 PM
how come this is already on exchange so fast, fishy coin we have here
dumping it b4 him and moving on to the next ;D

I'd say that 'fishy' is not really the term that applies on this one.
- This coin had a testing thread with a running testnet for weeks.
- A reasonably sized group of people participated and provided inputs as development progressed.
- There was a pre-ann a week in advance before the coin going live.
- There is no premine/IPO.
- Strong online presence (see website/wiki)
- Solid technical arguments and significant innovation.

If cryptonite holds up against the test of time, rigorous use, and provided that no significant code flaws are found to exist, or that any are fixed before major damage is ever done - the current valuation is low. If the implementation is found to be critically flawed - the current valuation is high.  ;D

Plenty of other things could be said though, I'm just shortly describing that there was a lot of activity before cryptonite going live, and I'm quite confident that it was that activity, along with a reasonably smooth launch (though certainly not perfect), that prompted the early exchange support.

Cheers,
~ Myagui


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: smooth on July 29, 2014, 10:53:38 PM
i feel that is good for the price at the beginning stage , dev got massive quantity

You don't understand the point about 10 years before the first halving of reward.

It is quite impossible for anyone to have "massive quantity" at this point because the emission rate is so extremely slow.

The total supply is 1.8 billion coins, of which about 1 million (i.e. 0.06%) have been mined. Even if someone got 100% of the coins mined so far (this did not happen) he would only have 0.06% of the total supply.

Please compare this to DRK and report back.



Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Hix on July 29, 2014, 10:55:24 PM
how come this is already on exchange so fast, fishy coin we have here
dumping it b4 him and moving on to the next ;D

I'd say that 'fishy' is not really the term that applies on this one.
- This coin had a testing thread with a running testnet for weeks.
- A reasonably sized group of people participated and provided inputs as development progressed.
- There was a pre-ann a week in advance before the coin going live.
- There is no premine/IPO.
- Strong online presence (see website/wiki)
- Solid technical arguments and significant innovation.

If cryptonite holds up against the test of time, rigorous use, and provided that no significant code flaws are found to exist, or that any are fixed before major damage is ever done - the current valuation is low. If the implementation is found to be critically flawed - the current valuation is high.  ;D

Plenty of other things could be said though, I'm just shortly describing that there was a lot of activity before cryptonite going live, and I'm quite confident that it was that activity, along with a reasonably smooth launch (though certainly not perfect), that prompted the early exchange support.

Cheers,
~ Myagui
Can you writing this text to poloniex?
Sounds very good :)


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: provenceday on July 29, 2014, 11:23:28 PM
we need bittrex and poloniex or mintpal.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: catia on July 29, 2014, 11:33:21 PM
New builds 14072918  actually the same as an older one. Went back to the old style of getwork and modified minerd. New minerd has optimized mining. Some 30% increase over wallet. Keep in mind that nobody really knows if it works. It has mined blocks on testnet but various problems seem to continue to appear with it.

Please read the https://github.com/MiniblockchainProject/Minerd/blob/master/README
You WILL need the extranonce in your config file to achieve mining on multiple machines. You WILL need both the latest daemon and minerd to get it to work. Even then, it just may not.
extranonce can be any number just make sure it's different on all miners.

The miner.exe for windows has been updated
MD5 93a21b40dfd8cbfd83f2778e0135710b

Miners are not really my business. Just trying to make sure the wallet supports them and to keep the code getting out since nobody is releasing anything yet. Best effort only.




Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: kkraus69 on July 29, 2014, 11:35:23 PM
New builds 14072918  actually the same as an older one. Went back to the old style of getwork and modified minerd. New minerd has optimized mining. Some 30% increase over wallet. Keep in mind that nobody really knows if it works. It has mined blocks on testnet but various problems seem to continue to appear with it.

Please read the https://github.com/MiniblockchainProject/Minerd/blob/master/README
You WILL need the extranonce in your config file to achieve mining on multiple machines. You WILL need both the latest daemon and minerd to get it to work. Even then, it just may not.
extranonce can be any number just make sure it's different on all miners.

The miner.exe for windows has been updated
MD5 93a21b40dfd8cbfd83f2778e0135710b

Miners are not really my business. Just trying to make sure the wallet supports them and to keep the code getting out since nobody is releasing anything yet. Best effort only.




THANK YOU    :)


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: jly77 on July 30, 2014, 12:15:31 AM
Those addresses could be exchanges, i dunno. The few large miners I know of seem to have 30k or so.

Minerd/getwork appears to have an issue. It works fine if your mining 1 instance of minerd per wallet. With more, aka private pool, it doesn't work right because getwork is only generating new work 1/sec or so. I changed getwork to always generate new work when called. This will however create very large load on the daemon. Not sure what the best way to use it is. New builds will be up shortly. 904/905

Those addresses could never be exchanges. Fuck those who lie.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Wolf0 on July 30, 2014, 12:17:59 AM
Those addresses could be exchanges, i dunno. The few large miners I know of seem to have 30k or so.

Minerd/getwork appears to have an issue. It works fine if your mining 1 instance of minerd per wallet. With more, aka private pool, it doesn't work right because getwork is only generating new work 1/sec or so. I changed getwork to always generate new work when called. This will however create very large load on the daemon. Not sure what the best way to use it is. New builds will be up shortly. 904/905

Those addresses could never be exchanges. Fuck those who lie.

Fuck those who want other people's work for nothing; who wish to take the product of their valuable knowledge, time, and effort, and use it to profit without giving two shits about the person who made it.

And you wonder why these miners aren't released.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: dr_chen on July 30, 2014, 12:20:38 AM
Anyone use the miner, does it works


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: cubydu on July 30, 2014, 01:13:29 AM
How can I check that minerd works ? I can't see share submitting

http://i.imgur.com/uW6GPp4.png


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Yanakitu Tenatako on July 30, 2014, 01:23:16 AM
Yes. /Me found block #3406 using the standalone cpu miner about 50m ago.
~ Myagui

Myagui, please, could you tell your hashing power?
What type of CPUs and hashrate.

It would be nice to know hashrate for certain CPUs. Thank you.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Yanakitu Tenatako on July 30, 2014, 01:24:25 AM
How can I check that minerd works ? I can't see share submitting

http://i.imgur.com/uW6GPp4.png

What the hell ????
How many threads you use and how?

PS. when you see share submitted you found a block.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: cubydu on July 30, 2014, 01:29:18 AM
EC2

How can I check that minerd works ? I can't see share submitting

http://i.imgur.com/uW6GPp4.png

What the hell ????
How many threads you use and how?

PS. when you see share submitted you found a block.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: truckythin on July 30, 2014, 01:50:22 AM
you will never know untill it can find block, but you know, it cost way to much to verify it  :P


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Gablez on July 30, 2014, 04:34:50 AM
Already on two exchanges.  Reasonable trading volume.  I'm bullish on this coin.  Looks good.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: wyj1888 on July 30, 2014, 04:42:40 AM
where  is the dev? are you chinese?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: bitfreak! on July 30, 2014, 05:04:15 AM
where  is the dev? are you chinese?
No we are not Chinese, we only speak English. The currency code ends with CN because the C and the N in CryptoNite are the first letters of each syllable, and it starts with X because that's the ISO standard for global currencies. I'm not sure if the currency code had anything to do with why two Chinese exchanges have listed XCN, but I highly doubt it.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: wyj1888 on July 30, 2014, 05:11:24 AM
where  is the dev? are you chinese?
No we are not Chinese, we only speak English. The currency code ends with CN because the C and the N in CryptoNite are the first letters of each syllable, and it starts with X because that's the ISO standard for global currencies. I'm not sure if the currency code had anything to do with why two Chinese exchanges have listed XCN, but I highly doubt it.

ah~ thank you!


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: wyj1888 on July 30, 2014, 05:13:55 AM
where  is the dev? are you chinese?
No we are not Chinese, we only speak English. The currency code ends with CN because the C and the N in CryptoNite are the first letters of each syllable, and it starts with X because that's the ISO standard for global currencies. I'm not sure if the currency code had anything to do with why two Chinese exchanges have listed XCN, but I highly doubt it.

Are you an Indian??


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: BChydro on July 30, 2014, 05:21:33 AM
where  is the dev? are you chinese?
No we are not Chinese, we only speak English. The currency code ends with CN because the C and the N in CryptoNite are the first letters of each syllable, and it starts with X because that's the ISO standard for global currencies. I'm not sure if the currency code had anything to do with why two Chinese exchanges have listed XCN, but I highly doubt it.

Are you an Indian??
"we only speak English"


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: restless on July 30, 2014, 06:13:45 AM
hold up on minerd. going to plan C
? :S


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: sumay2000 on July 30, 2014, 06:38:45 AM
where  is the dev? are you chinese?
No we are not Chinese, we only speak English. The currency code ends with CN because the C and the N in CryptoNite are the first letters of each syllable, and it starts with X because that's the ISO standard for global currencies. I'm not sure if the currency code had anything to do with why two Chinese exchanges have listed XCN, but I highly doubt it.

Are you an Indian??
"we only speak English"
He is a Chinese who only speak English


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: canonsburg on July 30, 2014, 06:56:24 AM
where  is the dev? are you chinese?
No we are not Chinese, we only speak English. The currency code ends with CN because the C and the N in CryptoNite are the first letters of each syllable, and it starts with X because that's the ISO standard for global currencies. I'm not sure if the currency code had anything to do with why two Chinese exchanges have listed XCN, but I highly doubt it.

Are you an Indian??
"we only speak English"
He is a Chinese who only speak English

Or is a Kryptonian that only speaks English.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: KeyserSozeMC on July 30, 2014, 06:57:47 AM
where  is the dev? are you chinese?
No we are not Chinese, we only speak English. The currency code ends with CN because the C and the N in CryptoNite are the first letters of each syllable, and it starts with X because that's the ISO standard for global currencies. I'm not sure if the currency code had anything to do with why two Chinese exchanges have listed XCN, but I highly doubt it.
Gotta love BCT people, seriously.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: cubydu on July 30, 2014, 07:21:11 AM
Dev, what  about  https://bittrex.com/ ?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: truckythin on July 30, 2014, 08:20:30 AM
Dev, what  about  https://bittrex.com/ ?

i dont even know that as an exchange lol


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: tamdc on July 30, 2014, 08:50:32 AM
Diff too high, we need a pool now.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: dxas1 on July 30, 2014, 08:57:28 AM
官方下的minerd 有人SOLO到块了吗?



Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: bitfreak! on July 30, 2014, 09:13:22 AM
Dev, what  about  https://bittrex.com/ ?
We don't have control over any exchange, all we can do is ask them. If you really want them to add XCN to their exchange then try contacting them yourself. If they have enough people asking for it then they might add it.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: catia on July 30, 2014, 10:12:14 AM
Very simple pool software has been developed for anyone wanting to start a pool.

https://github.com/MiniblockchainProject/SimplePool

Requires the latest minerd and wallet code. Pool has a hard limit of about 8000 core connection in current implementation, corresponding to 16k getwork request/second. Updates to minerd would change this 8000 machine connections. Pool just writes share info out to a log file. Parsing thing for payments is up to you. The hard part of that is checking for orphans. Tested insofar that shares are being generated and checked inside of wallet. Have not managed to mine a block with it yet.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: cubydu on July 30, 2014, 10:32:21 AM
Very simple pool software has been developed for anyone wanting to start a pool.

https://github.com/MiniblockchainProject/SimplePool

Requires the latest minerd and wallet code. Pool has a hard limit of about 8000 core connection in current implementation, corresponding to 16k getwork request/second. Updates to minerd would change this 8000 machine connections. Pool just writes share info out to a log file. Parsing thing for payments is up to you. The hard part of that is checking for orphans. Tested insofar that shares are being generated and checked inside of wallet. Have not managed to mine a block with it yet.

Are these user,password,port values from cryptonite.conf ? http://cryptoniterpc:pass@localhost:8252


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: bitfreak! on July 30, 2014, 10:41:43 AM
Are these user,password,port values from cryptonite.conf ? http://cryptoniterpc:pass@localhost:8252
Yes I believe so.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: DonQuijote on July 30, 2014, 10:50:55 AM
Dev, what  about  https://bittrex.com/ ?

i dont even know that as an exchange lol
??? ???
I cant believe it


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Hix on July 30, 2014, 11:27:30 AM
Dev, what  about  https://bittrex.com/ ?
We don't have control over any exchange, all we can do is ask them. If you really want them to add XCN to their exchange then try contacting them yourself. If they have enough people asking for it then they might add it.
All exchange like to taking with coin devs. Only you know all plans about developing and promotions


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: ocminer on July 30, 2014, 11:55:03 AM
Hey guys,

i'm working on a pool module in python, if anyone can tell me how this:

Code:
mpz_t bns[7];

    //Take care of zeros and load gmp
    for(int i=0; i < 7; i++){
if(hash[i]==0)
    hash[i] = 1;
mpz_init(bns[i]);
mpz_set_uint512(bns[i],hash[i]);
    }
 
    mpz_t product;
    mpz_init(product);
    mpz_set_ui(product,1);
    for(int i=0; i < 7; i++){
mpz_mul(product,product,bns[i]);
    }

    int bytes = mpz_sizeinbase(product, 256);
    char *data = (char*)malloc(bytes);
    mpz_export(data, NULL, -1, 1, 0, 0, product);

    //Free the memory
    for(int i=0; i < 7; i++){
mpz_clear(bns[i]);
    }
    mpz_clear(product);


Can be translated to normal "C" instead of "c++" i can set it up i a few mins


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Wolf0 on July 30, 2014, 12:02:31 PM
Hey guys,

i'm working on a pool module in python, if anyone can tell me how this:

Code:
mpz_t bns[7];

    //Take care of zeros and load gmp
    for(int i=0; i < 7; i++){
if(hash[i]==0)
    hash[i] = 1;
mpz_init(bns[i]);
mpz_set_uint512(bns[i],hash[i]);
    }
 
    mpz_t product;
    mpz_init(product);
    mpz_set_ui(product,1);
    for(int i=0; i < 7; i++){
mpz_mul(product,product,bns[i]);
    }

    int bytes = mpz_sizeinbase(product, 256);
    char *data = (char*)malloc(bytes);
    mpz_export(data, NULL, -1, 1, 0, 0, product);

    //Free the memory
    for(int i=0; i < 7; i++){
mpz_clear(bns[i]);
    }
    mpz_clear(product);


Can be translated to normal "C" instead of "c++" i can set it up i a few mins

All of that IS normal C. Learn to GMP. :P


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: bitfreak! on July 30, 2014, 12:10:40 PM
Quote
All exchange like to taking with coin devs. Only you know all plans about developing and promotions
I'm sure any exchange that decides to list XCN will contact us. So far we haven't actually contacted any exchanges, they have contacted us. We will reach out to more exchanges and do more marketing when Cryptonite is a bit more mature. What we could use more than another exchange right now, is a good pool and a blockchain explorer.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: luya518 on July 30, 2014, 12:26:26 PM
Chinese discussion forum:http://www.btclt.cn/group-857-1.html


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: marada on July 30, 2014, 12:59:57 PM
I can't connect.

I tried out the variations of all nodes I've found at this thread, including

Code:
addnode=54.210.111.104
addnode=54.91.54.222
addnode=54.237.164.185
addnode=122.192.189.208
addnode=83.212.102.224
addnode=54.81.74.247
addnode=54.234.32.117
addnode=54.204.209.48
addnode=183.93.235.186
addnode=101.161.82.82:16991
addnode=54.183.6.200:54875
addnode=54.86.182.245:33145
addnode=98.143.148.155:56400
addnode=98.213.214.114:49676
addnode=54.210.133.208:48567
addnode=98.143.148.159:59786
addnode=98.143.148.160:44907
addnode=54.210.162.119:36181
addnode=54.210.162.121:34191
addnode=54.86.215.63:34684
addnode=54.210.162.149:57404
addnode=54.178.130.72:38508
addnode=54.178.130.53:59543
addnode=54.178.130.54:41429
addnode=54.178.130.34:45857
addnode=54.92.122.176:54692
addnode=54.92.50.31:52864
addnode=54.92.125.113:53743
addnode=54.92.119.79:56161
addnode=54.178.130.84:50598
addnode=54.178.129.32:41261
addnode=54.178.130.92:50105
addnode=54.178.130.43:45357
addnode=54.94.167.253:43877
addnode=54.94.168.3:46196
addnode=54.94.167.245:53795
addnode=54.77.29.127:51697
addnode=54.77.75.60:39916
addnode=54.76.247.204:48792
addnode=54.77.83.158:38377
addnode=54.77.83.112:38735
addnode=54.77.83.54:44478
addnode=54.77.76.91:54746
addnode=54.77.2.78:57749
addnode=54.77.83.51:58805
addnode=54.77.1.253:58953
addnode=54.77.61.97:53143
addnode=54.77.68.120:59549
addnode=54.77.70.111:41230
addnode=54.77.68.204:51074
addnode=54.77.69.235:54575
addnode=54.191.238.251:44037
addnode=54.191.239.47:48571
addnode=54.77.63.137:34329
addnode=54.191.239.58:39623
addnode=54.187.179.75:38807
addnode=54.191.239.54:46147
addnode=54.191.239.27:38041
addnode=54.191.238.254:34467
addnode=54.191.238.252:57977
addnode=54.191.238.255:38455
addnode=54.191.238.248:35483
addnode=54.191.239.15:41029
addnode=54.191.238.240:50296
addnode=54.191.239.21:58149
addnode=54.191.239.3:52823
addnode=54.191.239.49:35480
addnode=54.191.239.6:36833
addnode=54.191.238.242:44995
addnode=54.94.152.205:56142
addnode=54.94.165.222:34048
addnode=54.94.168.20:40199
addnode=54.191.238.253:57170
addnode=54.178.131.196:55663
addnode=54.178.131.188:35560
addnode=98.143.148.157:8253
addnode=83.212.103.135:8253
addnode=83.212.123.214:48082
addnode=62.210.141.204:46424
addnode=85.24.195.109:32418
addnode=148.251.14.212:8253
addnode=37.187.229.14:37850
addnode=83.212.115.10:51173
addnode=54.191.210.122:48682
addnode=37.187.229.12:8253
addnode=54.178.131.194:60417
addnode=54.191.73.219:53106
addnode=54.191.214.249:34451
addnode=54.77.84.233:46139
addnode=54.191.28.134:42735
addnode=54.77.85.241:48256
addnode=54.191.224.173:38111
addnode=54.191.52.57:38348
addnode=54.94.168.38:40360
addnode=54.94.168.50:50561
addnode=54.94.168.25:40881
addnode=54.94.168.23:39880
addnode=54.94.168.32:55106
addnode=54.94.168.47:38735
addnode=54.94.168.37:40637
addnode=54.94.168.24:33885
addnode=54.94.163.250:48520
addnode=54.94.168.51:58583
addnode=54.94.167.252:42529
addnode=54.94.168.60:60437
addnode=54.94.168.41:40381
addnode=54.94.168.43:49443
addnode=54.191.94.126:37894
addnode=84.238.225.19:41693
addnode=54.185.20.159:51910
addnode=54.191.73.191:55676
addnode=161.53.119.99:51464
addnode=54.191.65.24:41791
addnode=54.85.60.167:38219
addnode=54.191.67.142:38514
addnode=54.210.139.37:46018
addnode=54.187.235.55:59160
addnode=54.210.166.179:52084
addnode=54.210.139.102:33437
addnode=54.210.137.114:56992
addnode=54.210.139.186:37093
addnode=24.130.14.88:8253
addnode=118.209.208.136:45839
addnode=54.191.145.35:43278
addnode=54.187.152.36:54798
addnode=24.110.218.202:59839

but I get this famous output all the time:

Code:
activeHeight: -1, headersHeight: -1
indexSize: 1, orphansSize: 1
askedSize: 0, missingSize: 0
validSize: 0
activeHeight: -1, headersHeight: -1
indexSize: 1, orphansSize: 0
askedSize: 0, missingSize: 0
validSize: 1
OS 1 NS 1
Finalize Node
Finalize Node
Finalize Node
Finalize Node
Finalize Node
Finalize Node

What are the default ports?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: ocminer on July 30, 2014, 01:00:08 PM
Hey guys,

i'm working on a pool module in python, if anyone can tell me how this:

Code:
mpz_t bns[7];

    //Take care of zeros and load gmp
    for(int i=0; i < 7; i++){
if(hash[i]==0)
    hash[i] = 1;
mpz_init(bns[i]);
mpz_set_uint512(bns[i],hash[i]);
    }
 
    mpz_t product;
    mpz_init(product);
    mpz_set_ui(product,1);
    for(int i=0; i < 7; i++){
mpz_mul(product,product,bns[i]);
    }

    int bytes = mpz_sizeinbase(product, 256);
    char *data = (char*)malloc(bytes);
    mpz_export(data, NULL, -1, 1, 0, 0, product);

    //Free the memory
    for(int i=0; i < 7; i++){
mpz_clear(bns[i]);
    }
    mpz_clear(product);


Can be translated to normal "C" instead of "c++" i can set it up i a few mins

All of that IS normal C. Learn to GMP. :P

I hate GMP !  ;D


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: bitfreak! on July 30, 2014, 01:19:42 PM
but I get this famous output all the time:
Running on Windows or Linux? I just updated the links on the download page (http://cryptonite.info/?page=download), try using the latest binary and see if that helps.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: marada on July 30, 2014, 01:22:59 PM
but I get this famous output all the time:
Running on Windows or Linux? I just updated the links on the download page (http://cryptonite.info/?page=download), try using the latest binary and see if that helps.

Linux. I'm just trying out binaries but have incompatible db.
Would also really prefer to compile myself because of the architecture optimisation...


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: bitfreak! on July 30, 2014, 01:33:07 PM
but I get this famous output all the time:
Running on Windows or Linux? I just updated the links on the download page (http://cryptonite.info/?page=download), try using the latest binary and see if that helps.

Linux. I'm just trying out binaries but have incompatible db.
Would also really prefer to compile myself because of the architecture optimisation...
Are you getting any connections to peers? Check your firewall settings if you're not. You might also be getting banned for some reason, I'm not really sure what your issue is, you might have to wait for catia to return. Also check your debug.log file and see if it reveals anything more about the nature of the problem.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: dstorm on July 30, 2014, 01:35:18 PM
Hey guys,

i'm working on a pool module in python, if anyone can tell me how this:

Code:
mpz_t bns[7];

    //Take care of zeros and load gmp
    for(int i=0; i < 7; i++){
if(hash[i]==0)
   hash[i] = 1;
mpz_init(bns[i]);
mpz_set_uint512(bns[i],hash[i]);
    }
 
    mpz_t product;
    mpz_init(product);
    mpz_set_ui(product,1);
    for(int i=0; i < 7; i++){
mpz_mul(product,product,bns[i]);
    }

    int bytes = mpz_sizeinbase(product, 256);
    char *data = (char*)malloc(bytes);
    mpz_export(data, NULL, -1, 1, 0, 0, product);

    //Free the memory
    for(int i=0; i < 7; i++){
mpz_clear(bns[i]);
    }
    mpz_clear(product);


Can be translated to normal "C" instead of "c++" i can set it up i a few mins

I have already made a python module. I will upload it soon.

edit: here it is https://bitbucket.org/dstorm/cryptonite-python-module (https://bitbucket.org/dstorm/cryptonite-python-module)


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: marada on July 30, 2014, 01:44:32 PM
Are you getting any connections to peers? Check your firewall settings if you're not. You might also be getting banned for some reason, I'm not really sure what your issue is, you might have to wait for catia to return. Also check your debug.log file and see if it reveals anything more about the nature of the problem.

Could it be this?
Code:
2014-07-30 13:09:08 socket recv error 104
2014-07-30 13:09:09 socket recv error 104
2014-07-30 13:09:10 socket recv error 104
.....


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: bitfreak! on July 30, 2014, 01:54:54 PM
Are you getting any connections to peers? Check your firewall settings if you're not. You might also be getting banned for some reason, I'm not really sure what your issue is, you might have to wait for catia to return. Also check your debug.log file and see if it reveals anything more about the nature of the problem.

Could it be this?
Code:
2014-07-30 13:09:08 socket recv error 104
2014-07-30 13:09:09 socket recv error 104
2014-07-30 13:09:10 socket recv error 104
.....
I believe that probably has something to do with it, could be a corrupt blockchain getting you banned. Did you try deleting the data folder and starting fresh? If you do try it, make sure to backup your wallet file if it holds any coins.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: marada on July 30, 2014, 02:22:34 PM
I believe that probably has something to do with it, could be a corrupt blockchain getting you banned. Did you try deleting the data folder and starting fresh? If you do try it, make sure to backup your wallet file if it holds any coins.
[/quote]

I have already tried it out but didn't help.

What is the default p2p port?

I tried to change the port in the cryptonite.conf by adding "port=xxx" but I think it was ignored.

Code:
# netstat -ntlp | grep LISTEN
tcp        0      0 127.0.1.1:53            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      2241/dnsmasq    
tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:8253            0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      2398/cryptonite-qt
tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:445             0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      731/smbd        
tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:139             0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      731/smbd        
tcp6       0      0 :::8253                 :::*                    LISTEN      2398/cryptonite-qt
tcp6       0      0 :::445                  :::*                    LISTEN      731/smbd        
tcp6       0      0 :::139                  :::*                    LISTEN      731/smbd

EDIT: sorry, not really ignored, but still the same - can't connect
EDIT2: CONNECTED! after changing the port and giving it a while :)


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: wood7 on July 30, 2014, 02:29:14 PM
the coin was so strong...


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: bitfreak! on July 30, 2014, 02:33:55 PM
The default port should be 8253.

Quote
EDIT2: CONNECTED! after changing the port and giving it a while :)
Good to hear.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: r95222 on July 30, 2014, 02:44:21 PM
I cant find block explore
Do we have one? :)


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Crypto_Enthusiast on July 30, 2014, 02:48:45 PM

Guys, if you want XCN added to Bittrex feel free to retweet my tweet to Bittrex https://twitter.com/Wolf_Of_Alts/status/494494275078348801 (https://twitter.com/Wolf_Of_Alts/status/494494275078348801)


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: marada on July 30, 2014, 03:03:13 PM
Diff too high, we need a pool now.

Yes, we need it.
Is it still a CPU coin?
Can you post your hardware details and hashrates for a comparison?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Wolf0 on July 30, 2014, 03:08:36 PM
So, I sat down with the miner for 30-45min.

(nsfw as always): https://ottrbutt.com/tmp/cnstock.png vs. https://ottrbutt.com/tmp/cnwolf.png

About 14.4%.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: bitfreak! on July 30, 2014, 03:13:54 PM
I cant find block explore
Do we have one? :)
Not yet, give it time.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: bitfreak! on July 30, 2014, 03:43:07 PM
Another small list of peers for those having trouble connecting to the network: http://pastebin.com/V7k6Mqzf


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Markos on July 30, 2014, 04:34:28 PM
I have some errors on Win7 x64 and the latest release of qt-binaries:

First error:

Assertion failed!

Program: F:\kryptowaluty\cryptonite\win64_cryptonite-qt_14073005.exe
File: trieview.cpp, Line 26

Expression: fread(&m_bestBlock,1,32,filein)>0

Second error (after ignoring):

Assertion failed!

Program: F:\kryptowaluty\cryptonite\win64_cryptonite-qt_14073005.exe
File: trieview.cpp, Line 28

Expression: fread(&sz,1,4,filein)>0

Third:

Assertion failed!

Program: F:\kryptowaluty\cryptonite\win64_cryptonite-qt_14073005.exe
File: trieview.cpp, Line 30

Expression: fread(buf,sz,1,filein)>0


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: bitfreak! on July 30, 2014, 05:08:22 PM
I have some errors on Win7 x64 and the latest release of qt-binaries:

First error:

Assertion failed!

Program: F:\kryptowaluty\cryptonite\win64_cryptonite-qt_14073005.exe
File: trieview.cpp, Line 26
Yeah several people have reported that problem but we're not sure what the issue is since many people seem to be running it fine on Windows 8.0 and 8.1. What I would suggest is that you ensure you have all the Win64 DLL's (http://gpile.it/mbc/dll.zip) in the same folder as the cryptonite-qt exe, and maybe try running it in compatibility mode if you still have problems. Other than that I'm not really sure what else you could try.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Jshank on July 30, 2014, 05:10:38 PM
Files may have modified my bitcoin %appdata% folder(win64). Can anybody verify?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Markos on July 30, 2014, 05:21:13 PM
It's not a DLL problem, I have all DLL's in the folder with cryptonite-qt.exe. Compatibility mode (Vista, Vista SP1/SP2, Server 2008 SP, 7 without SP) doesn't work too.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: bitfreak! on July 30, 2014, 05:21:25 PM
Files may have modified my bitcoin %appdata% folder. Can anybody verify?
I know for sure that on Linux it wont mess with the bitcoin data folder. It's highly unlikely that Windows is any different, but I'm not 100% sure.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: bitfreak! on July 30, 2014, 05:32:35 PM
It's not a DLL problem, I have all DLL's in the folder with cryptonite-qt.exe. Compatibility mode (Vista, Vista SP1/SP2, Server 2008 SP, 7 without SP) doesn't work too.
Well like I said I'm not sure what else you can try, it's weird that the error only appears for some people using Windows 8 but not  others. We'll do our best to find a solution but let us know if you end up working it out yourself.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: DonQuijote on July 30, 2014, 05:33:27 PM
Files may have modified my bitcoin %appdata% folder. Can anybody verify?
I know for sure that on Linux it wont mess with the bitcoin data folder. It's highly unlikely that Windows is any different, but I'm not 100% sure.
Yes, when i installed the wallet (first version) my blockchain and wallet.dat was corrupted


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: discodancer on July 30, 2014, 06:20:22 PM
I like this coin but mining looks difficult  :-[


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: watuba on July 30, 2014, 06:23:48 PM
I like this coin but mining looks difficult  :-[

Isn't it a bummer how those often go hand in hand!


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Fablio2 on July 30, 2014, 06:25:11 PM
Diff too high, we need a pool now.

Yes, we need it.
Is it still a CPU coin?
Can you post your hardware details and hashrates for a comparison?
i5 4670K@4.4Ghz  ~490Kh
i5 3570               ~290Kh

I have 30 i5 CPU's and I find ZERO blocks for last 12 hours.

We need pool!


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: bitwho on July 30, 2014, 06:28:15 PM
Diff too high, we need a pool now.

Yes, we need it.
Is it still a CPU coin?
Can you post your hardware details and hashrates for a comparison?
i5 4670K@4.4Ghz  ~490Kh
i5 3570               ~290Kh

I have 30 i5 CPU's and I find ZERO blocks for last 12 hours.

We need pool!


so much for fair distribution. 


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Wolf0 on July 30, 2014, 06:51:21 PM
Diff too high, we need a pool now.

Yes, we need it.
Is it still a CPU coin?
Can you post your hardware details and hashrates for a comparison?
i5 4670K@4.4Ghz  ~490Kh
i5 3570               ~290Kh

I have 30 i5 CPU's and I find ZERO blocks for last 12 hours.

We need pool!


so much for fair distribution. 

Define "fair distribution." There is no coin that's ever been distributed fairly, in any sense of the word.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: discodancer on July 30, 2014, 06:56:33 PM
I like this coin but mining looks difficult  :-[

Isn't it a bummer how those often go hand in hand!
yep but have bought some coins at below market level thanks to some dumping in last 24 hrs.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: jorneyflair on July 30, 2014, 08:03:51 PM
i feel that is good for the price at the beginning stage , dev got massive quantity

You don't understand the point about 10 years before the first halving of reward.

It is quite impossible for anyone to have "massive quantity" at this point because the emission rate is so extremely slow.

The total supply is 1.8 billion coins, of which about 1 million (i.e. 0.06%) have been mined. Even if someone got 100% of the coins mined so far (this did not happen) he would only have 0.06% of the total supply.

Please compare this to DRK and report back.


you are a good man but too naive maybe , why the hell the dev will keep updating in the coming 10 years ? dumping the coins while his coins taking a big percentage of total supply now , i cant see any proof he gonna make this long tern project and a wrong seednode & fucking fork (yes its so anoying considering the fucking launch)

this project has been tested for long and till now the situation reminds me MaxCoin . ffs


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: jorneyflair on July 30, 2014, 08:10:07 PM
Diff too high, we need a pool now.

Yes, we need it.
Is it still a CPU coin?
Can you post your hardware details and hashrates for a comparison?
i5 4670K@4.4Ghz  ~490Kh
i5 3570               ~290Kh

I have 30 i5 CPU's and I find ZERO blocks for last 12 hours.

We need pool!

no ,you need gpu    ;D @djm34 where r u , we need u !


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: alicea on July 30, 2014, 09:02:55 PM
I have some errors on Win7 x64 and the latest release of qt-binaries:

First error:

Assertion failed!

Program: F:\kryptowaluty\cryptonite\win64_cryptonite-qt_14073005.exe
File: trieview.cpp, Line 26

Expression: fread(&m_bestBlock,1,32,filein)>0

Second error (after ignoring):

Assertion failed!

Program: F:\kryptowaluty\cryptonite\win64_cryptonite-qt_14073005.exe
File: trieview.cpp, Line 28

Expression: fread(&sz,1,4,filein)>0

Third:

Assertion failed!

Program: F:\kryptowaluty\cryptonite\win64_cryptonite-qt_14073005.exe
File: trieview.cpp, Line 30

Expression: fread(buf,sz,1,filein)>0




It was written before - Windows wallets cause problems (they are on wrong blockchain).

But non-Windows wallets cause problems, too. I've been compiling it for 3 hours on 32-bit Ubuntu from sources because wanted to donate the x32 binary to the community (the dev has made only for 64-bit Ubuntus). And I've decided to give up just now, sorrry guys :(
And no pools, aaargh :/
In comparison: Cassubian Detk had no such problems at launch. A lot of coins are simply "ready to use". Maybe a month testing is too little, we had been testing our Detk for 2 months and changed algo after it...
Maybe you are listed quicker on better exchanges, but so troublefull wallet, sorrrrryyyy!!


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: smooth on July 30, 2014, 09:09:28 PM
are a good man but too naive maybe , why the hell the dev will keep updating in the coming 10 years ? dumping the coins while his coins taking a big percentage of total supply now , i cant see any proof he gonna make this long tern project and a wrong seednode & fucking fork (yes its so anoying considering the fucking launch)

That's another issue. If you think this is a pump and dump coin, then your argument is what exactly? You didn't get your fair share of the pump and dump? Seriously?



Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Stormbringer on July 30, 2014, 09:13:39 PM
Another small list of peers for those having trouble connecting to the network: http://pastebin.com/V7k6Mqzf

Where do I insert this?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: sammrr on July 30, 2014, 09:22:47 PM
Is anyone trying to mine from cryptonited? I'm doing okay out of cryptonite-qt, but ive been mining for 12 hours straight on cryptonited and nothing...


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: BChydro on July 30, 2014, 09:27:45 PM
Is anyone trying to mine from cryptonited? I'm doing okay out of cryptonite-qt, but ive been mining for 12 hours straight on cryptonited and nothing...
The difficulty is super high now, we need a pool!


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Stormbringer on July 30, 2014, 09:30:44 PM
Is anyone trying to mine from cryptonited? I'm doing okay out of cryptonite-qt, but ive been mining for 12 hours straight on cryptonited and nothing...

same here, no luck, diff is very high
"difficulty" : 63866.18785690,


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: sammrr on July 30, 2014, 09:32:33 PM
I got a block 12 hours ago on cryptonite-qt, the difficulty isn't massively high, my question is more whether cryptonited is correctly mining


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: cubydu on July 30, 2014, 09:52:17 PM
I got a block 12 hours ago on cryptonite-qt, the difficulty isn't massively high, my question is more whether cryptonited is correctly mining

yes, correctly
http://i.imgur.com/a8IGQWh.png


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: catia on July 30, 2014, 10:05:37 PM
I'm working on a node crawler for XCN, will hook this up to DNS and hopefully connection issues will be resolved.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: marada on July 30, 2014, 10:09:40 PM
The default port should be 8253.

Quote
EDIT2: CONNECTED! after changing the port and giving it a while :)
Good to hear.

The problem isn't really over yet. Right, I have managed to connect using one distro, but I can't connect when using the others. Something with the connections doesn't work well. All the time the same regardless of the port used: socket recv error 104.

I'm working on a node crawler for XCN, will hook this up to DNS and hopefully connection issues will be resolved.

It is most likely why people are asking for the nodes all the time, but it is not just the problem of nodes...
Very hard to get working at older distros. Unresolvable dependencies and finally no connection. At the other hand in case of newer distros you have no libdb4.8 there and the binaries are just compiled against libdb4.8.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: ocminer on July 30, 2014, 10:16:54 PM
I'm trying to get a pool up and running for this coin but it's really a PITA since the block generation is totally different from the "normal" coins..

Now the diff is so high you don't get blocks without GPU's .. I've got to see if testnet works..


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: marada on July 30, 2014, 10:22:17 PM
Getting the GPU miner will not really help. The diff will rise up accordingly.
Unless there is one already...

A pool is something this coin really needs.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: ocminer on July 30, 2014, 10:23:05 PM
And there seems to be no miner that supports stratum, or am i wrong ?? only Longpoll miners..


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: marada on July 30, 2014, 10:25:15 PM
The only way to mine it now is forming trusted "alliances" where many miners mine to one wallet with manual settlements based on hashrates.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: alicea on July 30, 2014, 10:38:39 PM
Getting the GPU miner will not really help. The diff will rise up accordingly.
Unless there is one already...

A pool is something this coin really needs.

Using your brain could really help.
The wallet after 3 hours of battle, started compiling. And has been compiling for 1.5 hours. I'm (EDIT: not) leaving it to compile, I'd (EDIT: not) see in the morning, but I'll see that it can't connect as some have written before. EDIT: My electricity is worth more than the coin that can't compile in more than 1.5 hour. GOOD NITE!!

Only the devs are making good business. Is this honest? I don't think.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: cubydu on July 30, 2014, 10:52:41 PM
Getting the GPU miner will not really help. The diff will rise up accordingly.
Unless there is one already...

A pool is something this coin really needs.

Using your brain could really help.
The wallet after 3 hours of battle, started compiling. And has been compiling for 1.5 hours. I'm (EDIT: not) leaving it to compile, I'd see in the morning, but I'll see that it can't connect as some have written before. EDIT: My electricity is worth more than the coin that can't compile in more than 1.5 hour. GOOD NITE!!

Only the devs are making good business. Is this honest? I don't think.

I started mining after 2 hours from launch. But I could rent EC2 instances beforehand. And I'm not crying in this thread now as you.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: marada on July 30, 2014, 11:04:20 PM
My bitcoin client is now attempting to connect to the folder .cryptonite.
???

The .bitcoin folder and it's content seems to be untouched.

Every alt would like to take the bitcoin place... but did this one manage it somehow?
In my computer did...

edit: succefully separated both coins by running bitcoin-qt with -datadir= parameter.
No damages. How did Cryptonite make bitcoin thinking his data dir is now .cryptonite?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: catia on July 30, 2014, 11:14:42 PM
Using your brain could really help.
The wallet after 3 hours of battle, started compiling. And has been compiling for 1.5 hours. I'm leaving it to compile, I'll see in the morning, but I'll see that it can't connect as some have written before.

Only the devs are making good business. Is this honest? I don't think.

I compile 4 builds on a core2duo in under an hour. Not sure why its taking you so long. Syncing is being handled. Node crawler finished just need to wait for bitfreak to wakeup to change the DNS. Not sure how devs are making good business. I spend all my time writing code, meanwhile a whole mess of people are mining it.  No shortage of people here who can tell you how many thousands they mined. Not really sure what the point of that statement is anyways. If I felt like spending thousands of $ on amazon instances, are we as devs for some reason not allowed to mine? It's a free for all on proof of work afaik.

32bit builds i don't really understand. For now there is enough memory, in the future there won't be. If processor is really only 32bit capable, it is so slow an inefficient that mining is not an option with it. If you have some kind of build errors, go ahead and report them. I'm willing to fix it for 32bit support.

Edit: you can use seed.gpile.it until DNS is updated, then it won't work anymore


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Yanakitu Tenatako on July 30, 2014, 11:34:48 PM
Anyone mining with AMD CPU?

Please share hashrate results.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: BTMan on July 30, 2014, 11:35:10 PM
we neea a pool now.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: marada on July 30, 2014, 11:36:06 PM
@ catia

1. 32-bit CPU can support up to 64 GB using PAE, so there is some space left for them.
2. Using a machine for wallet and mining is not really the same.

@ alicea

Compilation became resource hungry monster nowadays.
I've found it out compiling recently bitcoin-qt and digibytes.
Over a gigabyte of the output...


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: marada on July 30, 2014, 11:39:32 PM
Anyone mining with AMD CPU?

Please share hashrate results.

I am mining with AMD.

FX-6300@4,2 GH = 420 kH
Athlon II X2 B28 @ 3,4 GH = 150 kH
Athlon X2 4850e  @ 2,5 GH = 90 kH


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: ReRunRod on July 30, 2014, 11:39:52 PM
Waiting in line for this coin :)


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: ReRunRod on July 30, 2014, 11:44:51 PM
It's not very hard to solo mine right now, you should be able to find a block every week on average with only 100 kh/s.

Where is the wallet and where are you all mining at?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: smooth on July 30, 2014, 11:48:41 PM
@ catia

1. 32-bit CPU can support up to 64 GB using PAE, so there is some space left for them.

It is not even clear why so much RAM would be needed. Is the blockchain stored in RAM? Isn't it supposed to be small anyway?

I would be surprised if this coin could not fit easily in 2 GB of RAM (standard limit on 32 bit Windows). Presently I see memory usage of under 100 MB (on Linux).

 


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: ReRunRod on July 30, 2014, 11:58:39 PM
It's not very hard to solo mine right now, you should be able to find a block every week on average with only 100 kh/s.

Where is the wallet and where are you all mining at?
Well the binaries aren't available right now because there's something wrong with cryptonite.info's DNS, but the source is at https://github.com/MiniblockchainProject/Cryptonite/. I presume "where are you all mining at" is referring to pools. There isn't a pool that pays out yet.

Thank you very much. I shall wait :)


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: catia on July 31, 2014, 12:00:38 AM
Binaries on http://gpile.it/mbc  until DNS gets resolved  You will also have to addnode seed.gpile.it because DNS for seed not working either.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: ReRunRod on July 31, 2014, 12:09:35 AM
Binaries on http://gpile.it/mbc  until DNS gets resolved  You will also have to addnode seed.gpile.it because DNS for seed not working either.

THANK YOU! I will check it out :)


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: jly77 on July 31, 2014, 12:14:17 AM
Diff too high, we need a pool now.

Yes, we need it.
Is it still a CPU coin?
Can you post your hardware details and hashrates for a comparison?
i5 4670K@4.4Ghz  ~490Kh
i5 3570               ~290Kh

I have 30 i5 CPU's and I find ZERO blocks for last 12 hours.

We need pool!

no ,you need gpu    ;D @djm34 where r u , we need u !

I believe Devs are already mining with GPUs like no tomorrow.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: jly77 on July 31, 2014, 12:36:39 AM
I believe Devs are already mining with GPUs like no tomorrow.
If this were the case CPU mining with EC2 would not be remotely profitable. It's clearly not the case...

No, if few people are mining with GPU, CPU is still profitable.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: billotronic on July 31, 2014, 01:25:06 AM
I believe Devs are already mining with GPUs like no tomorrow.
If this were the case CPU mining with EC2 would not be remotely profitable. It's clearly not the case...

No, if few people are mining with GPU, CPU is still profitable.

Wouldn't take much to keep up appearances.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Hix on July 31, 2014, 02:47:41 AM
Why net hashrate goes down but diff goes UP?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: catia on July 31, 2014, 03:27:05 AM
Difficulty is adjusted based on average hash rate over many blocks. Instantaneous hash rate varies a lot. In the long term difficulty adjustment will do a good job a making sure average block rate is 1/minute. This means there will be times of too fast, and times of too slow to compensate. The hope is the slow adjustment will prevent lots of pool hopping since difficulty from one block to the next is never very much different.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: bitfreak! on July 31, 2014, 03:28:39 AM
Sorry about the website being down earlier folks, it should be working fine now.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: wenjiannin on July 31, 2014, 03:57:34 AM
Diff too high, we need a pool now.

Yes, we need it.
Is it still a CPU coin?
Can you post your hardware details and hashrates for a comparison?
i5 4670K@4.4Ghz  ~490Kh
i5 3570               ~290Kh

I have 30 i5 CPU's and I find ZERO blocks for last 12 hours.

We need pool!

no ,you need gpu    ;D @djm34 where r u , we need u !

I believe Devs are already mining with GPUs like no tomorrow.

We need pool , 120 e3v3 have one block in hour,is to hard.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Polycoin on July 31, 2014, 04:02:33 AM
Im looking to sell 1,000,000 Cryptonite's for 20(400% below market price) satoshi each. Yes I mined it with a GPU.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: ReRunRod on July 31, 2014, 04:07:00 AM
Im looking to sell 2,000,000 Cryptonite's for 20(400% below market price) satoshi each. Yes I mined it with a GPU.

What miner you use?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: bitfreak! on July 31, 2014, 04:13:34 AM
Im looking to sell 2,000,000 Cryptonite's for 20(400% below market price) satoshi each. Yes I mined it with a GPU.
There have only been 1.5 million XCN mined so far, do not trade with this scammer.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Polycoin on July 31, 2014, 04:25:41 AM
I put 1,000,000 cryptonite coins that I mined, not 2million...quit changing my text.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: smooth on July 31, 2014, 04:27:06 AM
I put 1,000,000 cryptonite coins that I mined, not 2million...quit changing my text.

Quoted to prevent edit


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Polycoin on July 31, 2014, 04:27:50 AM
Im looking to sell 2,000,000 Cryptonite's for 20(400% below market price) satoshi each. Yes I mined it with a GPU.

What miner you use?


Nvidia. Making a GPU to mine this coin was easy since it was already on testnet for a while.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: watuba on July 31, 2014, 04:27:56 AM
I put 1,000,000 cryptonite coins that I mined, not 2million...quit changing my text.

What's your mailing address?  I'll go ahead and send you the check if you post it in this thread.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: smooth on July 31, 2014, 04:29:12 AM
Im looking to sell 2,000,000 Cryptonite's for 20(400% below market price) satoshi each. Yes I mined it with a GPU.

What miner you use?


Nvidia. Making a GPU to mine this coin was easy since it was already on testnet for a while.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: bitfreak! on July 31, 2014, 04:33:17 AM
I put 1,000,000 cryptonite coins that I mined, not 2million...quit changing my text.
Oh so ReRunRod also changed the text to 2 million did he? lol just look at his trust rating guys... nothing more need to be said.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: ReRunRod on July 31, 2014, 04:38:12 AM
I put 1,000,000 cryptonite coins that I mined, not 2million...quit changing my text.
Oh so ReRunRod also changed the text to 2 million did he? lol just look at his trust rating guys... nothing more need to be said.

Yaup, SCAMMER OUT THE ASS! Everyone should ignore "Polycoin". Idiot said 2 million.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: prix on July 31, 2014, 05:20:35 AM
Block height: 6237
First top account is BTER: CeRad61n2RprFzywneKAkYN9bwFBu4yW2H has ~600k.
I checked inputs and I am sure it's not miner is exchange.
Top BTER deposit address has total about 80k for all time.
And I checked the Rich List distribution.
I am sure 99.9% no one has 1 million.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: smooth on July 31, 2014, 05:31:18 AM
Block height: 6237
First top account is BTER: CeRad61n2RprFzywneKAkYN9bwFBu4yW2H has ~600k.
I checked inputs and I am sure it's not miner is exchange.
Top BTER deposit address has total about 80k for all time.
And I checked the Rich List distribution.
I am sure 99.9% no one has 1 million.

No reason to even do that.

He tried to claim to have 2 million, then (fraudulently) edited his post, and then (fraudulently again) claimed he didn't. If he never tried to claim that he never edited his post, it could conceivably have been a typo, but at this point it is 100% scam.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: restless on July 31, 2014, 05:32:45 AM
I just hope ocminer will soon add a pool on suprnova...

As for GPU miners, I'm pretty sure there is at least one, maybe even 2 private ones available


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: freeworm on July 31, 2014, 06:43:54 AM
Block height: 6237
First top account is BTER: CeRad61n2RprFzywneKAkYN9bwFBu4yW2H has ~600k.
I checked inputs and I am sure it's not miner is exchange.
Top BTER deposit address has total about 80k for all time.
And I checked the Rich List distribution.
I am sure 99.9% no one has 1 million.


Yes I can confirm that currently BTER users' total balance is 620K

The rough calculation of the total existing XCN now is 1519K according to
https://bter.com/coininfo/XCN


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: uvt9 on July 31, 2014, 06:57:41 AM
Nvidia. Making a GPU to mine this coin was easy since it was already on testnet for a while.

Source code was not available on testnet, so there is no way you can make GPU during testnet. You need to be smarter when trying to scam someone.

Polycoin is long known troller and scammer, put him on ignore list.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: wyj1888 on July 31, 2014, 07:31:39 AM
there is something wrong with the coin!!!we stop at 6344!!


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Hix on July 31, 2014, 07:37:10 AM
Difficulty is adjusted based on average hash rate over many blocks. Instantaneous hash rate varies a lot. In the long term difficulty adjustment will do a good job a making sure average block rate is 1/minute. This means there will be times of too fast, and times of too slow to compensate. The hope is the slow adjustment will prevent lots of pool hopping since difficulty from one block to the next is never very much different.
How many block? Last hour net found only 40 blocks(must be 60) but diff still going UP.

Found  ;D
Difficulty adjustment: changes every block (1000 block filter)


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Hix on July 31, 2014, 07:38:18 AM
there is something wrong with the coin!!!we stop at 6344!!
Nope
"blocks" : 6371,


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: jly77 on July 31, 2014, 07:41:14 AM
I just hope ocminer will soon add a pool on suprnova...

As for GPU miners, I'm pretty sure there is at least one, maybe even 2 private ones available

There is no reason that Dev doesn't develop one for himself since all algorithms are open source. He just doesn't release it. Shame on him.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Wolf0 on July 31, 2014, 08:06:38 AM
I just hope ocminer will soon add a pool on suprnova...

As for GPU miners, I'm pretty sure there is at least one, maybe even 2 private ones available

There is no reason that Dev doesn't develop one for himself since all algorithms are open source. He just doesn't release it. Shame on him.

I'm fairly sure the dev doesn't have one.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: BChydro on July 31, 2014, 08:12:04 AM
I just hope ocminer will soon add a pool on suprnova...

As for GPU miners, I'm pretty sure there is at least one, maybe even 2 private ones available

There is no reason that Dev doesn't develop one for himself since all algorithms are open source. He just doesn't release it. Shame on him.
What is with all these accusations based on no evidence? It's like this place has become a bad drama. Shame on you.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Wolf0 on July 31, 2014, 08:21:33 AM
I just hope ocminer will soon add a pool on suprnova...

As for GPU miners, I'm pretty sure there is at least one, maybe even 2 private ones available

There is no reason that Dev doesn't develop one for himself since all algorithms are open source. He just doesn't release it. Shame on him.
What is with all these accusations based on no evidence? It's like this place has become a bad drama. Shame on you.

Agreed. This post from the dev also is indicative of not having one: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=167229.msg8113615#msg8113615


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: jly77 on July 31, 2014, 08:21:47 AM
I just hope ocminer will soon add a pool on suprnova...

As for GPU miners, I'm pretty sure there is at least one, maybe even 2 private ones available

There is no reason that Dev doesn't develop one for himself since all algorithms are open source. He just doesn't release it. Shame on him.
What is with all these accusations based on no evidence? It's like this place has become a bad drama. Shame on you.

Somebody reported  120 e3v3 have one block in hour
How could it be possible to mine several hundred thousands of coins in several hours? Calculate it by yourself, you idiot! SB!


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: jly77 on July 31, 2014, 08:23:47 AM
I just hope ocminer will soon add a pool on suprnova...

As for GPU miners, I'm pretty sure there is at least one, maybe even 2 private ones available

There is no reason that Dev doesn't develop one for himself since all algorithms are open source. He just doesn't release it. Shame on him.
What is with all these accusations based on no evidence? It's like this place has become a bad drama. Shame on you.

Agreed. This post from the dev also is indicative of not having one: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=167229.msg8113615#msg8113615

Dev said he had opencl experience! and the testnet ran for months! and he didn't write a gpu miner just for fair ? wowowowow~~~~


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: jly77 on July 31, 2014, 08:26:51 AM
I just hope ocminer will soon add a pool on suprnova...

As for GPU miners, I'm pretty sure there is at least one, maybe even 2 private ones available

There is no reason that Dev doesn't develop one for himself since all algorithms are open source. He just doesn't release it. Shame on him.
What is with all these accusations based on no evidence? It's like this place has become a bad drama. Shame on you.

Agreed. This post from the dev also is indicative of not having one: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=167229.msg8113615#msg8113615

Dev said he had opencl experience! and the testnet ran for months! and he didn't write a gpu miner just for fair ? wowowowow~~~~

Even more, opencl skill is not required since all the algorithms used are open source. He only need to write several lines of codes to enable GPU mining.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Wolf0 on July 31, 2014, 08:27:20 AM
I just hope ocminer will soon add a pool on suprnova...

As for GPU miners, I'm pretty sure there is at least one, maybe even 2 private ones available

There is no reason that Dev doesn't develop one for himself since all algorithms are open source. He just doesn't release it. Shame on him.
What is with all these accusations based on no evidence? It's like this place has become a bad drama. Shame on you.

Somebody reported  120 e3v3 have one block in hour
How could it be possible to mine several hundred thousands of coins in several hours? Calculate it by yourself, you idiot! SB!


GPU miners exist; just saying the dev doesn't seem to have one.

I just hope ocminer will soon add a pool on suprnova...

As for GPU miners, I'm pretty sure there is at least one, maybe even 2 private ones available

There is no reason that Dev doesn't develop one for himself since all algorithms are open source. He just doesn't release it. Shame on him.
What is with all these accusations based on no evidence? It's like this place has become a bad drama. Shame on you.

Agreed. This post from the dev also is indicative of not having one: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=167229.msg8113615#msg8113615

Dev said he had opencl experience! and the testnet ran for months! and he didn't write a gpu miner just for fair ? wowowowow~~~~

He's been quite busy coding the coin itself.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: JiePanXia on July 31, 2014, 08:27:40 AM
Haters gonna hate.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Wolf0 on July 31, 2014, 08:28:42 AM
I just hope ocminer will soon add a pool on suprnova...

As for GPU miners, I'm pretty sure there is at least one, maybe even 2 private ones available

There is no reason that Dev doesn't develop one for himself since all algorithms are open source. He just doesn't release it. Shame on him.
What is with all these accusations based on no evidence? It's like this place has become a bad drama. Shame on you.

Agreed. This post from the dev also is indicative of not having one: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=167229.msg8113615#msg8113615

Dev said he had opencl experience! and the testnet ran for months! and he didn't write a gpu miner just for fair ? wowowowow~~~~

Even more, opencl skill is not required since all the algorithms used are open source. He only need to write several lines of codes to enable GPU mining.

What? Uh... no. You need to do quite a bit of hunting around for the algs, and then put them together - and that's just for a copy+paste hackjob. I probably could have done that by now, but I prefer to do it right.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: catia on July 31, 2014, 08:36:53 AM
Dev said he had opencl experience! and the testnet ran for months! and he didn't write a gpu miner just for fair ? wowowowow~~~~

It was actually talked about to write one for the purpose of making it fair, or at least diffusing the situation, as I'm not completely sure it is unfair for people to write better software. Anyways, it's lot of work and writing hash codes is about the completely most uninteresting thing I could be doing with my time. It is not so hard to write the hashes, but debugging it is a nightmare. So it didn't get done, busy busy with the whole other 40k lines of code that need to work correctly and what not. Keep in mind I got paid to develop the coin, not to try and take all the coins. Bitfreak has some kind of vision here I can only pretend to understand, for the most part it seems to involve trying to appease all parties.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: wenjiannin on July 31, 2014, 08:39:59 AM
I just hope ocminer will soon add a pool on suprnova...

As for GPU miners, I'm pretty sure there is at least one, maybe even 2 private ones available

There is no reason that Dev doesn't develop one for himself since all algorithms are open source. He just doesn't release it. Shame on him.
What is with all these accusations based on no evidence? It's like this place has become a bad drama. Shame on you.

Somebody reported  120 e3v3 have one block in hour
How could it be possible to mine several hundred thousands of coins in several hours? Calculate it by yourself, you idiot! SB!


I only see  this is to hard solo,i hope have a pool。


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: wyj1888 on July 31, 2014, 09:36:16 AM
I just hope ocminer will soon add a pool on suprnova...

As for GPU miners, I'm pretty sure there is at least one, maybe even 2 private ones available

There is no reason that Dev doesn't develop one for himself since all algorithms are open source. He just doesn't release it. Shame on him.
What is with all these accusations based on no evidence? It's like this place has become a bad drama. Shame on you.

Somebody reported  120 e3v3 have one block in hour
How could it be possible to mine several hundred thousands of coins in several hours? Calculate it by yourself, you idiot! SB!


I only see  this is to hard solo,i hope have a pool。
we do need a pool!!! DEV


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: illodin on July 31, 2014, 09:45:02 AM
Sorry if these are already addressed somewhere, but

Why the dev felt it was necessary to create a new PoW algo?

How many total coins there currently are mined?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: bitfreak! on July 31, 2014, 10:03:58 AM
I just hope ocminer will soon add a pool on suprnova...

As for GPU miners, I'm pretty sure there is at least one, maybe even 2 private ones available

There is no reason that Dev doesn't develop one for himself since all algorithms are open source. He just doesn't release it. Shame on him.
What is with all these accusations based on no evidence? It's like this place has become a bad drama. Shame on you.

Agreed. This post from the dev also is indicative of not having one: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=167229.msg8113615#msg8113615

Dev said he had opencl experience! and the testnet ran for months! and he didn't write a gpu miner just for fair ? wowowowow~~~~

Even more, opencl skill is not required since all the algorithms used are open source. He only need to write several lines of codes to enable GPU mining.
Actually it was some what intentional to start off without a GPU miner, I wanted Cryptonite to be easy for the average desktop computer to mine in the beginning, so that everyone had a chance to get in on the action during the early phase of mining. But we should have a public GPU miner available any day now, and mining will become dominated by the people who have good GPU's. And to answer illodin's question in the post above this, we created a new PoW algorithm so that a GPU miner wasn't easy to create and because I felt that there needed to be a good multi-hash PoW algorithm that didn't use a bunch of obscure hashing functions. We had overhauled most other aspects of Cryptonite, so why stop at the PoW algorithm.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: smooth on July 31, 2014, 10:06:13 AM
How many total coins there currently are mined?

Dev said 1.5m a few posts back: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=713538.msg8113375#msg8113375



Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: reorder on July 31, 2014, 11:41:30 AM
I just hope ocminer will soon add a pool on suprnova...

As for GPU miners, I'm pretty sure there is at least one, maybe even 2 private ones available

There is no reason that Dev doesn't develop one for himself since all algorithms are open source. He just doesn't release it. Shame on him.
What is with all these accusations based on no evidence? It's like this place has become a bad drama. Shame on you.

Agreed. This post from the dev also is indicative of not having one: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=167229.msg8113615#msg8113615

Dev said he had opencl experience! and the testnet ran for months! and he didn't write a gpu miner just for fair ? wowowowow~~~~

Even more, opencl skill is not required since all the algorithms used are open source. He only need to write several lines of codes to enable GPU mining.
Actually it was some what intentional to start off without a GPU miner, I wanted Cryptonite to be easy for the average desktop computer to mine in the beginning, so that everyone had a chance to get in on the action during the early phase of mining. But we should have a public GPU miner available any day now, and mining will become dominated by the people who have good GPU's. And to answer illodin's question in the post above this, we created a new PoW algorithm so that a GPU miner wasn't easy to create and because I felt that there needed to be a good multi-hash PoW algorithm that didn't use a bunch of obscure hashing functions. We had overhauled most other aspects of Cryptonite, so why stop at the PoW algorithm.
Effectively you have delayed pools, not the GPU mining: it is way more complicated to coerce the coin's blocks format into stratum than to implement fixed-length bigint multiplication on GPU.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: restless on July 31, 2014, 11:44:52 AM
afaik delaying pools was inevitable, because this coin is not simple copy&paste of bitcoin with different algo


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: reorder on July 31, 2014, 11:52:41 AM
afaik delaying pools was inevitable, because this coin is not simple copy&paste of bitcoin with different algo

A pool-friendly approach would be implementing own kind of getblocktemplate with documented way of forging blocks outside the daemon.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: mdmedina07 on July 31, 2014, 12:56:25 PM
yeah mining for 24 hours nothing, doesn't help "average" desktop users at this point with the diff (since ppl out there with hundreds of cpus)


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: marada on July 31, 2014, 01:01:13 PM
yeah mining for 24 hours nothing, doesn't help "average" desktop users at this point with the diff (since ppl out there with hundreds of cpus)

One average desktop is not enough. You may need 5-10 machines with average CPU. If you don't have that find rather a friend or friends and mine to the one wallet.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Yanakitu Tenatako on July 31, 2014, 01:16:30 PM
You don't need a pool. You need a brain.
CPU mining is dead on the second day of mining.

So you need a pool to??? CPU mine again??? LOL

I am just selling mine on BTER and will never look back on this matter. Case is clear, and should be closed.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: bitfreak! on July 31, 2014, 01:39:29 PM
Some more recently active peers for anyone having issues connecting: http://pastebin.com/ec8dThBa


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: cubydu on July 31, 2014, 01:40:28 PM
https://c-cex.com/?p=xcn-btc


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: bitfreak! on July 31, 2014, 01:51:50 PM
Yes indeed we now have a 3rd XCN exchange.
Just got the news from guys over at C-CEX.com:

Quote
Your coin added to our exchange!

Here is btc and usd trading pairs:

https://c-cex.com/?p=xcn-btc
https://c-cex.com/?p=xcn-usd

Also it is tradable to any other coin we have (90+):

https://c-cex.com/?p=xcn-ltc
https://c-cex.com/?p=xcn-nmc
https://c-cex.com/?p=xcn-doge
https://c-cex.com/?p=xcn-ftc


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: superresistant on July 31, 2014, 02:32:47 PM

Hahaha, I knew Wolf0 would be around quick.



Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: bitfreak! on July 31, 2014, 03:32:13 PM
We now have a twitter account setup for general news, promotions, and development updates related to Cryptonite: https://twitter.com/CryptoniteCoin


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Joshua.Dan on July 31, 2014, 04:21:32 PM
 :( no promotion schedule?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: samspaces on July 31, 2014, 05:30:57 PM
Cannot for the love of me get the wallet to sync.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: bitfreak! on July 31, 2014, 05:41:49 PM
Cannot for the love of me get the wallet to sync.
Try adding this to your conf file:

addnode=125.114.199.168:8253
addnode=83.212.123.220:8253
addnode=49.83.144.209:8253
addnode=117.93.65.238:8253
addnode=27.192.114.47:8253
addnode=220.189.23.67:8253


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: samspaces on July 31, 2014, 05:47:49 PM
Cannot for the love of me get the wallet to sync.
Try adding this to your conf file:

addnode=125.114.199.168:8253
addnode=83.212.123.220:8253
addnode=49.83.144.209:8253
addnode=117.93.65.238:8253
addnode=27.192.114.47:8253
addnode=220.189.23.67:8253


Dude! That worked!


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: pujumba on July 31, 2014, 05:49:52 PM
1.84 bilion coins  why?  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: watuba on July 31, 2014, 06:01:54 PM
1.84 bilion coins  why?  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

Why not?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: mdmedina07 on July 31, 2014, 08:15:08 PM
Oh I get it, but I was quoting dev saying that they wanted to make it accessible to average desktop user.

I have 2x Xeon with 16 cores and 1x Xeon with 8 cores going (between 20-40k hash/s between two) so not as big as some but not average either.

yeah mining for 24 hours nothing, doesn't help "average" desktop users at this point with the diff (since ppl out there with hundreds of cpus)

One average desktop is not enough. You may need 5-10 machines with average CPU. If you don't have that find rather a friend or friends and mine to the one wallet.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: BitcoinForumator on July 31, 2014, 08:17:15 PM
This can't be true?

getmininginfo

{
"blocks" : 88,
"currentblocksize" : 1000,
"currentblocktx" : 0,
"difficulty" : 1.00000000,
"errors" : "",
"genproclimit" : 6,
"networkhashps" : 280,
"pooledtx" : 0,
"testnet" : false,
"generate" : true,
"hashespersec" : 0
}

Latest wallet, getting XCN in chunks of 243, 20k mined in 1 hour.

Difficulty = 1????


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: japandrew73 on July 31, 2014, 08:54:12 PM
LOL   Mini blockchain?  1.84 BILLION coins?     Obvious scam here people….

if you're buying this shit you might as well send all your cold storage to a btc burn address cause you'll never get back your initial investment on this piece of shit. 

Crypto world getting sadder and sadder as new schemes and breeds of scams coming out ever day…. :-[


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: psychocoin on July 31, 2014, 09:00:30 PM
The design looks very vulnerable to 51% type attacks, much more so than Bitcoin even. Wouldn't trust it with my money.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: philipvdlinde on July 31, 2014, 09:03:10 PM
LOL   Mini blockchain?  1.84 BILLION coins?     Obvious scam here people….

if you're buying this shit you might as well send all your cold storage to a btc burn address cause you'll never get back your initial investment on this piece of shit. 

Crypto world getting sadder and sadder as new schemes and breeds of scams coming out ever day…. :-[

so when you see a coin with a large amount of coins you call it a scam, especially when these coins are mined over a very long period of time? Oh and another thing, why haven't the dev left after the ipo, because I am sure that most scammers would refrain themselves of making such detailed concepts and plans.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: hrt on July 31, 2014, 09:04:17 PM
LOL   Mini blockchain?  1.84 BILLION coins?     Obvious scam here people….

if you're buying this shit you might as well send all your cold storage to a btc burn address cause you'll never get back your initial investment on this piece of shit.  

Crypto world getting sadder and sadder as new schemes and breeds of scams coming out ever day…. :-[
1,689,501 coins as now. Network hashrate 812MH allows to mine 4615 per hour. In month supply only will tripled and amount 5,012,301. Price is legit. Not too much CPU miners have to put all up in this coin.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: CryptoFlipper on July 31, 2014, 09:04:33 PM
The design looks very vulnerable to 51% type attacks, much more so than Bitcoin even. Wouldn't trust it with my money.

+10000

It's a shame people don't understand blockchain specifications and parameters that make or break a coin.  Noobs will buy into anything now-a-days...



STAY AWAY


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: japandrew73 on July 31, 2014, 09:17:03 PM
i heard this coin Forked...


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: myagui on July 31, 2014, 09:27:28 PM
The FUD spreading begins. Seems that interest on this coin is picking up...  ;)

I would however have a suggestion that ever so slightly relates to the FUD being passed around: we should definitely get some more eyes on the code and get a reputable source to review the innovations that XCN presents. I'd expect that no code is perfect, so a strong technical analysis could help in hardening the core and any issues would be sorted sooner rather than later.

~ Myagui


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: cubydu on July 31, 2014, 09:30:28 PM
How calculate mining profit ?

my hashrate * 86400/diff  ?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: hrt on July 31, 2014, 09:38:38 PM
How calculate mining profit ?

my hashrate * 86400/diff  ?
U can't u may find block in hour or in 100 hours with divers degree of probability


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: ReRunRod on July 31, 2014, 09:39:53 PM
Who has a working windows64 conf file around that they can pass this way. My wallet isn't syncing one bit.. Thank you!


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: myagui on July 31, 2014, 09:47:38 PM
See nodes posted on the previous page.

Code:
addnode=125.114.199.168:8253
addnode=83.212.123.220:8253
addnode=49.83.144.209:8253
addnode=117.93.65.238:8253
addnode=27.192.114.47:8253
addnode=220.189.23.67:8253

Let me know if these don't work and I'll check my peer list.
~ Myagui


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: catia on July 31, 2014, 09:49:03 PM
More nodes http://pastebin.com/S95Bd3Vy


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: cubydu on July 31, 2014, 09:53:23 PM
How calculate mining profit ?

my hashrate * 86400/diff  ?
U can't u may find block in hour or in 100 hours with divers degree of probability

I know but I can calculate average value


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: catia on July 31, 2014, 10:00:05 PM
How calculate mining profit ?

my hashrate * 86400/diff  ?
U can't u may find block in hour or in 100 hours with divers degree of probability

I know but I can calculate average value

hashrate / nethashrate * 1440 * 243 = XCN/day


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: bitwho on July 31, 2014, 10:00:22 PM
the point is.. why release your coins when you spend months researching it.

only few people keep in touch. they fund out the coin will lunch. got a senior member to do GPU miner and are minign away.


i never understand... why release a coin you worked hard on so prematurely. shit is tainted now. people will always complain.

i tried mining this for 2 days nothing was found. this is pretty bad. no pool. only few people mining most of the coins.

bad lunch guys. not a healthy distribution. Should have prepared better

who ever buying the coins is only supporting the few miners that are massively finding all the coins


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: smooth on July 31, 2014, 10:02:23 PM
i tried mining this for 2 days nothing was found. this is pretty bad. no pool. only few people mining most of the coins.

bad lunch guys. not a healthy distribution. Should have prepared better

2 days out of 10 years for 50% of the coins to be mined? Sounds like a disaster all right.

Short attention span much?



Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: cubydu on July 31, 2014, 10:03:25 PM
thanks

How calculate mining profit ?

my hashrate * 86400/diff  ?
U can't u may find block in hour or in 100 hours with divers degree of probability

I know but I can calculate average value

hashrate / nethashrate * 1440 * 243 = XCN/day



Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: smooth on July 31, 2014, 10:07:21 PM
What is the difficulty target as a function of (average) nethash


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: nakaone on July 31, 2014, 10:07:49 PM
was estimating/calculating yesterday, still have problems to understand the daily emission of new mined coines - at current prices it needs around 15-20 btc to eat the inflation and to keep the price stable? please correct me if I am wrong


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: CryptoFlipper on July 31, 2014, 10:10:13 PM
the point is.. why release your coins when you spend months researching it.

only few people keep in touch. they fund out the coin will lunch. got a senior member to do GPU miner and are minign away.


i never understand... why release a coin you worked hard on so prematurely. shit is tainted now. people will always complain.

i tried mining this for 2 days nothing was found. this is pretty bad. no pool. only few people mining most of the coins.

bad lunch guys. not a healthy distribution. Should have prepared better

who ever buying the coins is only supporting the few miners that are massively finding all the coins

+1 what a disaster


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: smooth on July 31, 2014, 10:13:51 PM
was estimating/calculating yesterday, still have problems to understand the daily emission of new mined coines - at current prices it needs around 15-20 btc to eat the inflation and to keep the price stable? please correct me if I am wrong

243 XCN/block * 1440 block/day * 0.000065 BTC/XCN = 22.7448 BTC/day

That doesn't necessarily have to be direct outlay, it could (and does) include miners who mine and hold.




Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Wolf0 on July 31, 2014, 10:26:22 PM

Hahaha, I knew Wolf0 would be around quick.



I might still not know about this coin if there weren't a half-dozen people on IRC bugging me about it.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: TooDumbForBitcoin on July 31, 2014, 11:17:38 PM
Wolf0's least favorite coin is PETA coin.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Wolf0 on July 31, 2014, 11:23:03 PM
Wolf0's least favorite coin is PETA coin.


Heh, I actually laughed at that a bit.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: cubydu on July 31, 2014, 11:32:21 PM
what is this mean ?
Code:
2014-07-31 20:45:08 generated 243.999679631
2014-07-31 20:45:08 ERROR: BitcoinMiner : generated block is stale

I have several servers with same wallet.dat


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: catia on July 31, 2014, 11:36:35 PM
what is this mean ?
Code:
2014-07-31 20:45:08 generated 243.999679631
2014-07-31 20:45:08 ERROR: BitcoinMiner : generated block is stale

I have several servers with same wallet.dat


It's probably nothing serious if not happening often. Miner thread mines for about 2 seconds before checking for new work. If block received, while that is running, and thread actually finds a block you can get that message.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: rhkazani1 on August 01, 2014, 12:08:39 AM
Total coins 1.84 billion?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: wyj1888 on August 01, 2014, 12:13:02 AM
Total coins 1.84 billion?

yes


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: rhkazani1 on August 01, 2014, 12:13:43 AM

Isnt that alot? You think it will hold its value?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: wyj1888 on August 01, 2014, 12:15:53 AM
I cant find any new block in nearly 24 hours with two 32 cores!!


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: bitfreak! on August 01, 2014, 03:15:13 AM

Isnt that alot? You think it will hold its value?
It's amazing how people around here are all so used to the scam coins that when a fair coin comes out they can't compute it. The economics of pump and dumps is so common around here that people actually think 1.8 billion coins is some astronomical number. It will be 10 years before even half of all the coins are mined, so yes I think XCN will hold its value perfectly fine as long as nothing else goes wrong.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: rhkazani1 on August 01, 2014, 03:17:10 AM

Isnt that alot? You think it will hold its value?
It's amazing how people around here are all so used to the scam coins that when a fair coin comes out they can't compute it. The economics of pump and dumps is so common around here that people actually think 1.8 billion coins is some astronomical number. It will be 10 years before even half of all the coins are mined, so yes I think XCN will hold its value perfectly fine as long as nothing else goes wrong.

Thank so much for your response, i was just trying to understand how that works. I am all in....


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: smooth on August 01, 2014, 03:43:01 AM

Isnt that alot? You think it will hold its value?
It's amazing how people around here are all so used to the scam coins that when a fair coin comes out they can't compute it. The economics of pump and dumps is so common around here that people actually think 1.8 billion coins is some astronomical number. It will be 10 years before even half of all the coins are mined, so yes I think XCN will hold its value perfectly fine as long as nothing else goes wrong.

More than that, the fascination with "how many coins" is absurd. It is percentage of coins that matters, not how many of them. But companies spend money on legal and administrative fees to do stock splits so I guess people are just dumb.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: bitfreak! on August 01, 2014, 03:47:16 AM
The design looks very vulnerable to 51% type attacks, much more so than Bitcoin even. Wouldn't trust it with my money.
At least you have taken the time to come up with a reasonably valid criticism that is worth talking about. I believe what you are referring to is the Secret Chain Attack. Following quote taken from the weaknesses and attack vectors (http://cryptonite.info/wiki/index.php?title=Weaknesses_and_attack_vectors) wiki page.

Quote
The Secret Chain Attack

If an attacker had enough hashing power he could generate a fake chain in secret using the real proof chain but a fake account tree. He would need to out-pace the real mini-blockchain for a full cycle until there's no evidence left to indicate his account tree is fake and then start broadcasting the fake chain.

This wont affect older nodes who have been validating blocks for longer than the cycle of the mini-blockchain because they can detect the fake chain or simply ignore super long forks. In Cryptonite existing nodes will just stick with the chain they have if the origin point of the fork appears to be older than the cycle time.

So there's no way the attacker could trick existing nodes to accept his fake chain, but new nodes are still at risk. New nodes have no way of determining which is the valid chain because they have no history of what happened before the oldest block in the mini-blockchain. Using some sort of consensus mechanism is not perfect either.

Minimizing risk of attack success

If a new node detects multiple chains which originate from the same proof chain it can try to query other nodes for older blocks all the way to the block in which the competing chains diverged and if no one around has this long history (no one is required to have it) the user can either take a chance on the chain the nodes recieves first, or refuse to participate in the network until one of the chains has won the race.

The user will be warned when any type of fork longer than 24 hours is detected. The user could also manually point the node to the correct chain with the use of a community checkpoint. The community will release a new checkpoint as quickly as possible if this situation does arise. When the checkpoint is released new nodes will be able to safely join the network and help the other nodes work against the attacker.

Since this attack will only put new nodes at risk and since it will most likely never happen, let alone succeed, this strategy is an acceptable contingency plan for dealing with the attack. Worse case scenario is that new nodes have to wait until the situation has been resolved or wait until a new checkpoint is released which points to the real chain. Anyone already running a node would not be affected in any way.

In summary, this attack is unconcerning and unlikely for several reason:

* requires an incredible amount of hashing power
* requires that no one has historic blockchain data
* only nodes which haven't synced for more than a week are susceptible
* when all else fails new nodes can resolve the problem with a checkpoint
* attack will never succeed due to checkpoints and probably could never be profitable


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Wolf0 on August 01, 2014, 03:52:05 AM
Can't decide whether to finish the miner quickly or optimize it to death...


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: wyj1888 on August 01, 2014, 04:26:25 AM
Can't decide whether to finish the miner quickly or optimize it to death...

I  stop mining this coin!!! Its too hard for me with two 32 cores!


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: illodin on August 01, 2014, 04:29:13 AM
Can't decide whether to finish the miner quickly or optimize it to death...

I  stop mining this coin!!! Its too hard for me with two 32 cores!

Frustrating to read this.. coins being mined by few people. Hopefully it doesn't matter in the long run when the gpu miner is released to everyone.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: restless on August 01, 2014, 04:34:25 AM
I already stopped 1 day ago, smaller miners may return when  pool is available. Right now mining with less than 100 cores seems like accelerating AGW


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: canonsburg on August 01, 2014, 04:54:55 AM
Really? I can still find a block a day with only a combined 32 cores (actually only 28 cores in practice)


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: sbgyuff520 on August 01, 2014, 05:04:14 AM
{
"blocks" : 7444,
"currentblocksize" : 1000,
"currentblocktx" : 0,
"difficulty" : 57800.94800027,
"errors" : "",
"genproclimit" : 6,
"networkhashps" : 1115930737,
"pooledtx" : 0,
"testnet" : false,
"generate" : true,
"hashespersec" : 272866
}

Correct?
Cryptonite version v0.1.1.0-unk-beta (64-bit)


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: bitfreak! on August 01, 2014, 05:15:10 AM
@sbgyuff520: yes that looks correct.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: sammy007 on August 01, 2014, 05:27:51 AM
- Block reward: changes every block

So what a block reward?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: sbgyuff520 on August 01, 2014, 05:53:41 AM
@sbgyuff520: yes that looks correct.

3Q


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: o48o on August 01, 2014, 05:55:13 AM
How many coins there currently are?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: sbgyuff520 on August 01, 2014, 06:05:52 AM
How GPU mining?
Who can give a GPU software and method?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Wolf0 on August 01, 2014, 06:17:04 AM
How GPU mining?
Who can give a GPU software and method?

No GPU miner available.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: sammy007 on August 01, 2014, 06:21:22 AM
How GPU mining?
Who can give a GPU software and method?

No GPU miner available.

Is there any windows CPU miner available?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Wolf0 on August 01, 2014, 06:21:55 AM
How GPU mining?
Who can give a GPU software and method?

No GPU miner available.

Is there any windows CPU miner available?

Yeah, I think it's in the OP. Only solo mining, though - pool software was released, but no ops yet.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: sammy007 on August 01, 2014, 06:24:11 AM
How GPU mining?
Who can give a GPU software and method?

No GPU miner available.

Is there any windows CPU miner available?

Yeah, I think it's in the OP. Only solo mining, though - pool software was released, but no ops yet.

I found only sources in the OP.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: savale on August 01, 2014, 06:47:19 AM
Making a GPU miner for this is not that easy because of the exotic algo's used (i.e. ripemd / tiger). You need knowledge how to port the algo's to opencl... It is definitely possible but hard to do


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: ocminer on August 01, 2014, 06:52:49 AM

How GPU mining?
Who can give a GPU software and method?

No GPU miner available.

Is there any windows CPU miner available?

Yeah, I think it's in the OP. Only solo mining, though - pool software was released, but no ops yet.


Thats no pool software - thats a small python script for private use :)

For me the Blockchain / getblocktemplate Implementation of this coin is totally crazy and "broken" - If that won't be fixed, there'll never be a working pool for it.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Wolf0 on August 01, 2014, 06:54:00 AM
Making a GPU miner for this is not that easy because of the exotic algo's used (i.e. ripemd / tiger). You need knowledge how to port the algo's to opencl... It is definitely possible but hard to do

RIPEMD160 a child could compute on paper, it's not hard. The multiplies are kind of a pain to do in OpenCL/CUDA, though.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: jly77 on August 01, 2014, 06:54:36 AM
Making a GPU miner for this is not that easy because of the exotic algo's used (i.e. ripemd / tiger). You need knowledge how to port the algo's to opencl... It is definitely possible but hard to do

there are open source kernels for ripemd and tiger.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Wolf0 on August 01, 2014, 06:56:09 AM
Making a GPU miner for this is not that easy because of the exotic algo's used (i.e. ripemd / tiger). You need knowledge how to port the algo's to opencl... It is definitely possible but hard to do

there are open source kernels for ripemd and tiger.

Huh, that would have saved me some time. Oh, well.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: BigWait on August 01, 2014, 06:57:56 AM
when can mined with GPU or pools
This time
It is very hard to mined!
Who mined all?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: smooth on August 01, 2014, 07:03:17 AM
Who mined all?

Keyser Söze


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: jly77 on August 01, 2014, 07:15:04 AM
Making a GPU miner for this is not that easy because of the exotic algo's used (i.e. ripemd / tiger). You need knowledge how to port the algo's to opencl... It is definitely possible but hard to do

there are open source kernels for ripemd and tiger.

Huh, that would have saved me some time. Oh, well.

Would appreciate if you can share the miner after it's ready  ;D


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Wolf0 on August 01, 2014, 07:21:48 AM
Making a GPU miner for this is not that easy because of the exotic algo's used (i.e. ripemd / tiger). You need knowledge how to port the algo's to opencl... It is definitely possible but hard to do

there are open source kernels for ripemd and tiger.

Huh, that would have saved me some time. Oh, well.

Would appreciate if you can share the miner after it's ready  ;D

Sure, after a while.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: bitfreak! on August 01, 2014, 07:29:52 AM
We now have a basic block explorer available: http://minichain.info

Still seems a little bit buggy so go easy on it.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: copychicken on August 01, 2014, 07:52:31 AM
where are the pool commands and software? sent me a link, i will try to make one.

poolsofhonor.com


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: kyma on August 01, 2014, 08:19:13 AM
awesome! cant wait for a mac wallet


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: catia on August 01, 2014, 08:19:18 AM
where are the pool commands and software? sent me a link, i will try to make one.

poolsofhonor.com

https://github.com/MiniblockchainProject/SimplePool

Is the pool code. Currently it just writes share data to CSV file. Can be easily modified to throw shares in a database. The trouble is that it's difficult to get a list of blocks mined from wallet when trying to execute payouts. I think the easiest thing to do is to modify the wallet so it returns the block hash when a block is found. Then the database will have list of block hashes and you can query for orphans during payout. I can help with some of these things. Usually on #cryptonite IRC on FreeNode, or feel free to PM.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: discodancer on August 01, 2014, 08:21:22 AM
Can't decide whether to finish the miner quickly or optimize it to death...
Given the hash rate being thrown a quickly released miner with slow hashes might not really mine anything significant.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Wolf0 on August 01, 2014, 08:28:13 AM
Can't decide whether to finish the miner quickly or optimize it to death...
Given the hash rate being thrown a quickly released miner with slow hashes might not really mine anything significant.

Not releasing it immediately. Which is why the conundrum, I have people waiting, so I can't take too long, on the other hand, I can't give them shit, either. Delicate balance.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: reorder on August 01, 2014, 08:30:33 AM
Can't decide whether to finish the miner quickly or optimize it to death...
Given the hash rate being thrown a quickly released miner with slow hashes might not really mine anything significant.

Not releasing it immediately. Which is why the conundrum, I have people waiting, so I can't take too long, on the other hand, I can't give them shit, either. Delicate balance.
People waiting == people waiting to mine coins that could be yours. Just a friendly reminder.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: illodin on August 01, 2014, 08:35:04 AM
People waiting == people waiting to mine coins that could be yours. Just a friendly reminder.

Do you have a gpu miner?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: hankrules on August 01, 2014, 08:44:10 AM
So, is the blockchain actually small?  How do you test that?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Wolf0 on August 01, 2014, 09:00:46 AM
Can't decide whether to finish the miner quickly or optimize it to death...
Given the hash rate being thrown a quickly released miner with slow hashes might not really mine anything significant.

Not releasing it immediately. Which is why the conundrum, I have people waiting, so I can't take too long, on the other hand, I can't give them shit, either. Delicate balance.
People waiting == people waiting to mine coins that could be yours. Just a friendly reminder.

True. But those people are also taking on risk that I don't have.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: restless on August 01, 2014, 09:36:33 AM
where are the pool commands and software? sent me a link, i will try to make one.

poolsofhonor.com

https://github.com/MiniblockchainProject/SimplePool

Is the pool code. Currently it just writes share data to CSV file. Can be easily modified to throw shares in a database. The trouble is that it's difficult to get a list of blocks mined from wallet when trying to execute payouts. I think the easiest thing to do is to modify the wallet so it returns the block hash when a block is found. Then the database will have list of block hashes and you can query for orphans during payout. I can help with some of these things. Usually on #cryptonite IRC on FreeNode, or feel free to PM.
Maybe you should try to help ocminer too, he is the force behind suprnova and so far :( he says
Code:
For me the Blockchain / getblocktemplate Implementation of this coin is totally crazy and "broken" - If that won't be fixed, there'll never be a working pool for it.
:(


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: XbladeX on August 01, 2014, 09:55:06 AM
...
People waiting == people waiting to mine coins that could be yours. Just a friendly reminder.

True. But those people are also taking on risk that I don't have.

With GPU miner without pool will be hard to deal with 100+ GPUs farms ( i have seen many in VTC while mining )

Gpu miners can be already in play -in 3 day mining with i7 3770k and i have 0 balance so i can tell you that CPU mining doesn't exist ( at least for me ).
Anyway like every where those who got GPU miner 1st behind scene will get big $$; x11... crypto night everywhere is same.

At the end coin can lose some fairness and cause it "clones" claim better distribution - lets just look at Bytecoin and Monero
if such situation will stay long next clone will get BIGGER attention and community at the end market share.



Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Wolf0 on August 01, 2014, 09:56:28 AM
...
People waiting == people waiting to mine coins that could be yours. Just a friendly reminder.

True. But those people are also taking on risk that I don't have.

With GPU miner without pool will be hard to deal with 100+ GPUs farms ( i have seen many in VTC while mining )

Gpu miners can be already in play -in 3 day mining with i7 3770k and i have 0 balance so i can tell you that CPU mining doesn't exist ( at least for me ).
Anyway like every where those who got GPU miner 1st behind scene will get big $$; x11... crypto night everywhere is same.

At the end coin can lose some fairness and cause it "clones" claim better distribution - lets just look at Bytecoin and Monero
if such situation will stay long next clone will get BIGGER attention and community at the end market share.



XMR didn't have fair distribution, 10x faster cpu miners were available to AWS farmers within a week.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: XbladeX on August 01, 2014, 10:11:48 AM
.....

There won't never perfect solution but we can not let get ext. 20% of supply get into few people hands if it will be like that it
XCN will be treat as NXT Bytecoin and bad distribution is very hard to defend later IMO , it cause rise of clones even higher than original
(which is sad).


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: itod on August 01, 2014, 10:37:15 AM
I've installed Cryptonite-QT (Win 7 64-bit) and run it successfully, but it refuses to download the blockchain. Here is the tail of the debug.log (my IP address replaced with x.x.x.x):

Code:
2014-08-01 10:22:35 Cryptonite version v0.1.1.0-unk-beta (2014-07-11 15:05:34 -0400)
2014-08-01 10:22:35 Using OpenSSL version OpenSSL 1.0.1g 7 Apr 2014
2014-08-01 10:22:35 Default data directory C:\Users\itod\AppData\Roaming\Cryptonite
2014-08-01 10:22:35 Using data directory C:\Users\itod\AppData\Roaming\Cryptonite
2014-08-01 10:22:35 Using at most 125 connections (2048 file descriptors available)
2014-08-01 10:22:35 Using 4 threads for script verification
2014-08-01 10:22:35 Using wallet wallet.dat
2014-08-01 10:22:35 init message: Verifying wallet...
2014-08-01 10:22:35 CDBEnv::Open : LogDir=C:\Users\itod\AppData\Roaming\Cryptonite\database ErrorFile=C:\Users\itod\AppData\Roaming\Cryptonite\db.log
2014-08-01 10:22:35 Bound to [::]:8253
2014-08-01 10:22:35 Bound to 0.0.0.0:8253
2014-08-01 10:22:35 init message: Loading block index...
2014-08-01 10:22:35 Opening LevelDB in C:\Users\itod\AppData\Roaming\Cryptonite\blocks\index
2014-08-01 10:22:36 Opened LevelDB successfully
2014-08-01 10:22:36 Loaded trie at 000009a460ccc429ac6e53c91c6ed2d96697884b8b656a903042faff8971c5aa 53
2014-08-01 10:22:36 LoadBlockIndexDB(): last block file = 0
2014-08-01 10:22:36 LoadBlockIndexDB(): last block file info: CBlockFileInfo(blocks=1, size=224, heights=0...0, time=2014-07-28...2014-07-28)
2014-08-01 10:22:36 LoadBlockIndexDB(): transaction index enabled
2014-08-01 10:22:36 Best Block: 000009a460ccc429ac6e53c91c6ed2d96697884b8b656a903042faff8971c5aa
2014-08-01 10:22:36 LoadBlockIndexDB(): hashBestChain=000009a460ccc429ac6e53c91c6ed2d96697884b8b656a903042faff8971c5aa height=0 date=2014-07-28 01:00:00 progress=nan
2014-08-01 10:22:36 init message: Verifying blocks...
2014-08-01 10:22:36  block index              11ms
2014-08-01 10:22:36 init message: Loading wallet...
2014-08-01 10:22:36 nFileVersion = 10100
2014-08-01 10:22:36 Keys: 101 plaintext, 0 encrypted, 101 w/ metadata, 101 total
2014-08-01 10:22:36  wallet                  199ms
2014-08-01 10:22:36 Activate 000009a460ccc429ac6e53c91c6ed2d96697884b8b656a903042faff8971c5aa
2014-08-01 10:22:36 Writing file 000009a460ccc429ac6e53c91c6ed2d96697884b8b656a903042faff8971c5aa
2014-08-01 10:22:36 Serialized: 53 bytes
2014-08-01 10:22:36 init message: Loading addresses...
2014-08-01 10:22:36 Loaded 1 addresses from peers.dat  0ms
2014-08-01 10:22:37 mapBlockIndex.size() = 1
2014-08-01 10:22:37 nBestHeight = 0
2014-08-01 10:22:37 nBestHeaderHeight = 0
2014-08-01 10:22:37 setKeyPool.size() = 100
2014-08-01 10:22:37 mapWallet.size() = 0
2014-08-01 10:22:37 mapAddressBook.size() = 1
2014-08-01 10:22:37 ext-ip thread start
2014-08-01 10:22:37 dnsseed thread start
2014-08-01 10:22:37 init message: Done loading
2014-08-01 10:22:37 upnp thread start
2014-08-01 10:22:37 net thread start
2014-08-01 10:22:37 msghand thread start
2014-08-01 10:22:37 dumpaddr thread start
2014-08-01 10:22:37 Loading addresses from DNS seeds (could take a while)
2014-08-01 10:22:37 Initialization result: 1
2014-08-01 10:22:37 addcon thread start
2014-08-01 10:22:37 opencon thread start
2014-08-01 10:22:37 1 addresses found from DNS seeds
2014-08-01 10:22:37 dnsseed thread exit
2014-08-01 10:22:38 socket recv error 10054
2014-08-01 10:22:38 GetMyExternalIP() received [x.x.x.x] x.x.x.x:0
2014-08-01 10:22:38 GetMyExternalIP() returned x.x.x.x
2014-08-01 10:22:38 AddLocal(x.x.x.x:8253,4)
2014-08-01 10:22:38 ext-ip thread exit
2014-08-01 10:22:39 UPnP: ExternalIPAddress = x.x.x.x
2014-08-01 10:22:39 AddLocal(x.x.x.x:8253,3)
2014-08-01 10:22:40 UPnP Port Mapping successful.
2014-08-01 10:23:15 socket recv error 10054
2014-08-01 10:23:34 socket recv error 10054
2014-08-01 10:24:02 socket recv error 10054
2014-08-01 10:24:11 socket recv error 10054
2014-08-01 10:24:40 socket recv error 10054

...And it says: "Downloading headers... 4 days behind" with "socket recv error 10054" repeating in the debug.log. Tried to add a few nodes, but nothing changes. I'm behind standard home router. Please advise.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: reorder on August 01, 2014, 10:39:47 AM
...
People waiting == people waiting to mine coins that could be yours. Just a friendly reminder.

True. But those people are also taking on risk that I don't have.

With GPU miner without pool will be hard to deal with 100+ GPUs farms ( i have seen many in VTC while mining )

Gpu miners can be already in play -in 3 day mining with i7 3770k and i have 0 balance so i can tell you that CPU mining doesn't exist ( at least for me ).
Anyway like every where those who got GPU miner 1st behind scene will get big $$; x11... crypto night everywhere is same.

At the end coin can lose some fairness and cause it "clones" claim better distribution - lets just look at Bytecoin and Monero
if such situation will stay long next clone will get BIGGER attention and community at the end market share.


You don't 'get' a miner, you make it. Fair to the bone. Getting something for nothing is the unfairness.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Wolf0 on August 01, 2014, 10:49:03 AM
...
People waiting == people waiting to mine coins that could be yours. Just a friendly reminder.

True. But those people are also taking on risk that I don't have.

With GPU miner without pool will be hard to deal with 100+ GPUs farms ( i have seen many in VTC while mining )

Gpu miners can be already in play -in 3 day mining with i7 3770k and i have 0 balance so i can tell you that CPU mining doesn't exist ( at least for me ).
Anyway like every where those who got GPU miner 1st behind scene will get big $$; x11... crypto night everywhere is same.

At the end coin can lose some fairness and cause it "clones" claim better distribution - lets just look at Bytecoin and Monero
if such situation will stay long next clone will get BIGGER attention and community at the end market share.


You don't 'get' a miner, you make it. Fair to the bone. Getting something for nothing is the unfairness.

Thank God there's someone here who realizes that getting something for nothing should not be expected, or worse, demanded.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Stormbringer on August 01, 2014, 11:18:25 AM
Didn't use bter.com exchange before,

Withdrawal Fee: 2% + 0.1 XCN  >:(

This is most expensive Withdrawal Fee of all exchanges I used.

Don't use bter.com!


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Yanakitu Tenatako on August 01, 2014, 12:02:33 PM
Sorry, what it means AWS farmers? What is AWS? And who made 10x miner for then?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Icrypto on August 01, 2014, 12:07:58 PM
Hi guys,

Newbie here. I see that this coin is CPU miner.

I'm currently running a dedi server for other activities and was wondering if it would make sense to mine on the side as is very underused.

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Wolf0 on August 01, 2014, 12:11:36 PM
Sorry, what it means AWS farmers? What is AWS? And who made 10x miner for then?

Amazon Web Services, and I'm not going to say who made that miner, but it wasn't me. I was selling a 2x faster one for a while, though.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: myagui on August 01, 2014, 12:13:12 PM
I'm currently running a dedi server for other activities and was wondering if it would make sense to mine on the side as is very underused.

Yes, absolutely makes sense. Do take into consideration that with the current nethash, your chances of actually finding a block are rather slim. Hopefully it will not take long for pools to surface, as right now the network is mostly in the hands of pro miners using cloud services like AWS. With pools your absolute profitability might be lower, but then you'll have a more consistent return (less variance).

(I did mine a few blocks myself just using a single desktop)

Cheers,
~ Myagui


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: itod on August 01, 2014, 12:32:52 PM
...And it says: "Downloading headers... 4 days behind" with "socket recv error 10054" repeating in the debug.log. Tried to add a few nodes, but nothing changes. I'm behind standard home router. Please advise.

Found out what the problem was. The Cryptonite-QT is half-baked, it messed up some environment variables which Bitcoin-QT uses, resulting in breaking both itself and Bitcoin-QT.

Don't install Cryptonite-QT if you use default Bitcoin wallet! I've managed not to be forced to download the whole Bitcoin blockchain, but it was close.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Hix on August 01, 2014, 12:42:56 PM
...
People waiting == people waiting to mine coins that could be yours. Just a friendly reminder.

True. But those people are also taking on risk that I don't have.

With GPU miner without pool will be hard to deal with 100+ GPUs farms ( i have seen many in VTC while mining )

Gpu miners can be already in play -in 3 day mining with i7 3770k and i have 0 balance so i can tell you that CPU mining doesn't exist ( at least for me ).
Anyway like every where those who got GPU miner 1st behind scene will get big $$; x11... crypto night everywhere is same.

At the end coin can lose some fairness and cause it "clones" claim better distribution - lets just look at Bytecoin and Monero
if such situation will stay long next clone will get BIGGER attention and community at the end market share.


You don't 'get' a miner, you make it. Fair to the bone. Getting something for nothing is the unfairness.
I think, you made privat optimazed miner and don`t want to wolf reliz his. I am remember you close source GPU MMC miner and how you take 90% of all MMC net hashrate on your pool.

Wolf, relize you miner please it will be good for all Cryptonite communite.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Wolf0 on August 01, 2014, 12:50:23 PM
...
People waiting == people waiting to mine coins that could be yours. Just a friendly reminder.

True. But those people are also taking on risk that I don't have.

With GPU miner without pool will be hard to deal with 100+ GPUs farms ( i have seen many in VTC while mining )

Gpu miners can be already in play -in 3 day mining with i7 3770k and i have 0 balance so i can tell you that CPU mining doesn't exist ( at least for me ).
Anyway like every where those who got GPU miner 1st behind scene will get big $$; x11... crypto night everywhere is same.

At the end coin can lose some fairness and cause it "clones" claim better distribution - lets just look at Bytecoin and Monero
if such situation will stay long next clone will get BIGGER attention and community at the end market share.


You don't 'get' a miner, you make it. Fair to the bone. Getting something for nothing is the unfairness.
I think, you made privat optimazed miner and don`t want to wolf reliz his. I am remember you close source GPU MMC miner and how you take 90% of all MMC net hashrate on your pool.

Wolf, relize you miner please it will be good for all Cryptonite communite.

People have already paid the deposit for it - so no.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: reorder on August 01, 2014, 12:54:45 PM
...
People waiting == people waiting to mine coins that could be yours. Just a friendly reminder.

True. But those people are also taking on risk that I don't have.

With GPU miner without pool will be hard to deal with 100+ GPUs farms ( i have seen many in VTC while mining )

Gpu miners can be already in play -in 3 day mining with i7 3770k and i have 0 balance so i can tell you that CPU mining doesn't exist ( at least for me ).
Anyway like every where those who got GPU miner 1st behind scene will get big $$; x11... crypto night everywhere is same.

At the end coin can lose some fairness and cause it "clones" claim better distribution - lets just look at Bytecoin and Monero
if such situation will stay long next clone will get BIGGER attention and community at the end market share.


You don't 'get' a miner, you make it. Fair to the bone. Getting something for nothing is the unfairness.
I think, you made privat optimazed miner and don`t want to wolf reliz his. I am remember you close source GPU MMC miner and how you take 90% of all MMC net hashrate on your pool.

Wolf, relize you miner please it will be good for all Cryptonite communite.
What if one does not share the communite valuz?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Wolf0 on August 01, 2014, 12:56:39 PM
...
People waiting == people waiting to mine coins that could be yours. Just a friendly reminder.

True. But those people are also taking on risk that I don't have.

With GPU miner without pool will be hard to deal with 100+ GPUs farms ( i have seen many in VTC while mining )

Gpu miners can be already in play -in 3 day mining with i7 3770k and i have 0 balance so i can tell you that CPU mining doesn't exist ( at least for me ).
Anyway like every where those who got GPU miner 1st behind scene will get big $$; x11... crypto night everywhere is same.

At the end coin can lose some fairness and cause it "clones" claim better distribution - lets just look at Bytecoin and Monero
if such situation will stay long next clone will get BIGGER attention and community at the end market share.


You don't 'get' a miner, you make it. Fair to the bone. Getting something for nothing is the unfairness.
I think, you made privat optimazed miner and don`t want to wolf reliz his. I am remember you close source GPU MMC miner and how you take 90% of all MMC net hashrate on your pool.

Wolf, relize you miner please it will be good for all Cryptonite communite.
What if one does not share the communite valuz?

lol, I like you.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Hix on August 01, 2014, 01:12:02 PM
...
People waiting == people waiting to mine coins that could be yours. Just a friendly reminder.

True. But those people are also taking on risk that I don't have.

With GPU miner without pool will be hard to deal with 100+ GPUs farms ( i have seen many in VTC while mining )

Gpu miners can be already in play -in 3 day mining with i7 3770k and i have 0 balance so i can tell you that CPU mining doesn't exist ( at least for me ).
Anyway like every where those who got GPU miner 1st behind scene will get big $$; x11... crypto night everywhere is same.

At the end coin can lose some fairness and cause it "clones" claim better distribution - lets just look at Bytecoin and Monero
if such situation will stay long next clone will get BIGGER attention and community at the end market share.


You don't 'get' a miner, you make it. Fair to the bone. Getting something for nothing is the unfairness.
I think, you made privat optimazed miner and don`t want to wolf reliz his. I am remember you close source GPU MMC miner and how you take 90% of all MMC net hashrate on your pool.

Wolf, relize you miner please it will be good for all Cryptonite communite.
What if one does not share the communite valuz?
I want to say in your "beautifull words" you hiding only you personal interests. My example shows your essence.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Wolf0 on August 01, 2014, 01:15:53 PM
...
People waiting == people waiting to mine coins that could be yours. Just a friendly reminder.

True. But those people are also taking on risk that I don't have.

With GPU miner without pool will be hard to deal with 100+ GPUs farms ( i have seen many in VTC while mining )

Gpu miners can be already in play -in 3 day mining with i7 3770k and i have 0 balance so i can tell you that CPU mining doesn't exist ( at least for me ).
Anyway like every where those who got GPU miner 1st behind scene will get big $$; x11... crypto night everywhere is same.

At the end coin can lose some fairness and cause it "clones" claim better distribution - lets just look at Bytecoin and Monero
if such situation will stay long next clone will get BIGGER attention and community at the end market share.


You don't 'get' a miner, you make it. Fair to the bone. Getting something for nothing is the unfairness.
I think, you made privat optimazed miner and don`t want to wolf reliz his. I am remember you close source GPU MMC miner and how you take 90% of all MMC net hashrate on your pool.

Wolf, relize you miner please it will be good for all Cryptonite communite.
What if one does not share the communite valuz?
I want to say in your "beautifull words" you hiding only you personal interests. My example shows your essence.

Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know "personal interests" (also known as making a living and having a computer to code on and a home in which to plug it in) was such a bad thing.

Let's talk about your personal interests - you want the product of our skilled work, but you don't want to pay for it. You want it for free - so you can make money, without a care for the people who made that possible.

In short, you can shove your community values right up your ass.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: IntroVert on August 01, 2014, 01:34:30 PM
...And it says: "Downloading headers... 4 days behind" with "socket recv error 10054" repeating in the debug.log. Tried to add a few nodes, but nothing changes. I'm behind standard home router. Please advise.

Found out what the problem was. The Cryptonite-QT is half-baked, it messed up some environment variables which Bitcoin-QT uses, resulting in breaking both itself and Bitcoin-QT.

Don't install Cryptonite-QT if you use default Bitcoin wallet! I've managed not to be forced to download the whole Bitcoin blockchain, but it was close.

Can you please share what settings you reverted in order to make bitcoin-qt work again without rebuilding its blockchain database? I have 9.2.1 and it is hosed since I put and ran the cryptonite-qt wallet on my machine.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: DonQuijote on August 01, 2014, 01:46:50 PM
...And it says: "Downloading headers... 4 days behind" with "socket recv error 10054" repeating in the debug.log. Tried to add a few nodes, but nothing changes. I'm behind standard home router. Please advise.

Found out what the problem was. The Cryptonite-QT is half-baked, it messed up some environment variables which Bitcoin-QT uses, resulting in breaking both itself and Bitcoin-QT.

Don't install Cryptonite-QT if you use default Bitcoin wallet! I've managed not to be forced to download the whole Bitcoin blockchain, but it was close.

Can you please share what settings you reverted in order to make bitcoin-qt work again without rebuilding its database? I have 9.2.1 and it is hosed since I put and ran the cryptonite-qt wallet on my machine.
+1
I need this info, my wallet is corrupt now :/


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: djm34 on August 01, 2014, 01:57:31 PM
...
People waiting == people waiting to mine coins that could be yours. Just a friendly reminder.

True. But those people are also taking on risk that I don't have.

With GPU miner without pool will be hard to deal with 100+ GPUs farms ( i have seen many in VTC while mining )

Gpu miners can be already in play -in 3 day mining with i7 3770k and i have 0 balance so i can tell you that CPU mining doesn't exist ( at least for me ).
Anyway like every where those who got GPU miner 1st behind scene will get big $$; x11... crypto night everywhere is same.

At the end coin can lose some fairness and cause it "clones" claim better distribution - lets just look at Bytecoin and Monero
if such situation will stay long next clone will get BIGGER attention and community at the end market share.


You don't 'get' a miner, you make it. Fair to the bone. Getting something for nothing is the unfairness.
I think, you made privat optimazed miner and don`t want to wolf reliz his. I am remember you close source GPU MMC miner and how you take 90% of all MMC net hashrate on your pool.

Wolf, relize you miner please it will be good for all Cryptonite communite.
What if one does not share the communite valuz?
I want to say in your "beautifull words" you hiding only you personal interests. My example shows your essence.

Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know "personal interests" (also known as making a living and having a computer to code on and a home in which to plug it in) was such a bad thing.

Let's talk about your personal interests - you want the product of our skilled work, but you don't want to pay for it. You want it for free - so you can make money, without a care for the people who made that possible.

In short, you can shove your community values right up your ass.
;D +1

edit: That's nice to do things for the community, as long as the community doesn't forget it has to work both way...


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: drawingthesun on August 01, 2014, 02:03:18 PM
A new exotic proof of work doesn't mean security, it means someone much smarter than you will mine a hundred times the amount of coins you will on the same hardware.

This is the apparent future of crypto coins, get used to it. :)


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: IntroVert on August 01, 2014, 02:09:32 PM
...And it says: "Downloading headers... 4 days behind" with "socket recv error 10054" repeating in the debug.log. Tried to add a few nodes, but nothing changes. I'm behind standard home router. Please advise.

Found out what the problem was. The Cryptonite-QT is half-baked, it messed up some environment variables which Bitcoin-QT uses, resulting in breaking both itself and Bitcoin-QT.

Don't install Cryptonite-QT if you use default Bitcoin wallet! I've managed not to be forced to download the whole Bitcoin blockchain, but it was close.

Can you please share what settings you reverted in order to make bitcoin-qt work again without rebuilding its database? I have 9.2.1 and it is hosed since I put and ran the cryptonite-qt wallet on my machine.
+1
I need this info, my wallet is corrupt now :/

Try starting the client via the following "C:\Program Files\Bitcoin\bitcoin-qt.exe" -datadir=C:\Users\%your_username%\AppData\Roaming\Bitcoin either from the command line or edit the Target field on your shortcut property screen. My bitcoin-qt client is now synced. This is applicable to Win7 64bit, change the path to bitcoin-qt.exe if it is different for your system.

EDIT: you can also try "C:\Program Files\Bitcoin\bitcoin-qt.exe" -datadir=%APPDATA%\Bitcoin


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: itod on August 01, 2014, 02:09:48 PM
...And it says: "Downloading headers... 4 days behind" with "socket recv error 10054" repeating in the debug.log. Tried to add a few nodes, but nothing changes. I'm behind standard home router. Please advise.

Found out what the problem was. The Cryptonite-QT is half-baked, it messed up some environment variables which Bitcoin-QT uses, resulting in breaking both itself and Bitcoin-QT.

Don't install Cryptonite-QT if you use default Bitcoin wallet! I've managed not to be forced to download the whole Bitcoin blockchain, but it was close.

Can you please share what settings you reverted in order to make bitcoin-qt work again without rebuilding its database? I have 9.2.1 and it is hosed since I put and ran the cryptonite-qt wallet on my machine.
+1
I need this info, my wallet is corrupt now :/

All right, no need to panic, your BTC wallet should be fine, it gave me a scare since I haven't backed it up for some time and had some transactions in the meantime. Here's what you should do:

- Check that both applications are shut down, best to logoff/logon or restart your computer
- Backup both wallets just in case, both files have the same name (wallet.dat) so take care not to mix them up. Wallets are in the same directory where your exe files are
- Delete the whole Cryptonite-QT directory
- Go to "Start" and in the textbox right above it ("Search programs and files") type %APPDATA% press Enter it will open your hidden directory with both Bitcoin and Cryptonite blockchains. Delete the whole Cryptonite directory.
- Start the Bitcoin-QT normally. Since the directory which common environment variable points out is now deleted, it will prompt you to point to proper directory. Choose the checkbox above the currently selected (default), and it will finally find everything it needs and work normally.

I must say this is a major Cryptonite developers fuck-up, to force us to jump through hoops just to save our Bitcoin installation. TBH, it has shaken my confidence that they know what they are doing quite a bit.

Edit: on double check, wallet's are also in hidden directory, you should easily find them.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: myagui on August 01, 2014, 02:13:56 PM
Or you can just do this (for the time being I suppose).
Pasting from another user's experience some pages back:
Quote
edit: succefully separated both coins by running bitcoin-qt with -datadir= parameter.

So it looks like the XCN wallet is actually setting it's data directory using the same parameter as Bitcoin, thus messing up the location for the latter. There's no damage to data reported from anyone yet, so I suppose this can be easily fixed in the XCN wallet soon, and by resetting the Bitcoin data directory to it's original location.

~ Myagui


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: IntroVert on August 01, 2014, 02:19:04 PM
...And it says: "Downloading headers... 4 days behind" with "socket recv error 10054" repeating in the debug.log. Tried to add a few nodes, but nothing changes. I'm behind standard home router. Please advise.

Found out what the problem was. The Cryptonite-QT is half-baked, it messed up some environment variables which Bitcoin-QT uses, resulting in breaking both itself and Bitcoin-QT.

Don't install Cryptonite-QT if you use default Bitcoin wallet! I've managed not to be forced to download the whole Bitcoin blockchain, but it was close.

Can you please share what settings you reverted in order to make bitcoin-qt work again without rebuilding its database? I have 9.2.1 and it is hosed since I put and ran the cryptonite-qt wallet on my machine.
+1
I need this info, my wallet is corrupt now :/

All right, no need to panic, your BTC wallet should be fine, it gave me a scare since I haven't backed it up for some time and had some transactions in the meantime. Here's what you should do:

- Check that both applications are shut down, best to logoff/logon or restart your computer
- Backup both wallets just in case, both files have the same name (wallet.dat) so take care not to mix them up. Wallets are in the same directory where your exe files are
- Delete the whole Cryptonite-QT directory
- Go to "Start" and in the textbox right above it ("Search programs and files") type %APPDATA% press Enter it will open your hidden directory with both Bitcoin and Cryptonite blockchains. Delete the whole Cryptonite directory.
- Start the Bitcoin-QT normally. Since the directory which common environment variable points out is now deleted, it will prompt you to point to proper directory. Choose the checkbox above the currently selected (default), and it will finally find everything it needs and work normally.

I must say this is a major Cryptonite developers fuck-up, to force us to jump through hoops just to save our Bitcoin installation. TBH, it has shaken my confidence that they know what they are doing quite a bit.

Edit: on double check, wallet's are also in hidden directory, you should easily find them.

Thank you for your help, I managed to fix this without deleting as described in my previous message. I agree that this is/was a major screwup.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: bitfreak! on August 01, 2014, 02:27:07 PM
Looks like an issue with the Windows Qt, I haven't seen it happen on Linux. I would say that 80% of development time was spent on cryptonited before we even moved onto making Qt work, so yes it may be a little buggy compared to cryptonited, especially on Windows, because there wasn't a whole lot of testing done on Windows. The issue should be solved in the next release.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Hix on August 01, 2014, 02:31:59 PM
...
People waiting == people waiting to mine coins that could be yours. Just a friendly reminder.

True. But those people are also taking on risk that I don't have.

With GPU miner without pool will be hard to deal with 100+ GPUs farms ( i have seen many in VTC while mining )

Gpu miners can be already in play -in 3 day mining with i7 3770k and i have 0 balance so i can tell you that CPU mining doesn't exist ( at least for me ).
Anyway like every where those who got GPU miner 1st behind scene will get big $$; x11... crypto night everywhere is same.

At the end coin can lose some fairness and cause it "clones" claim better distribution - lets just look at Bytecoin and Monero
if such situation will stay long next clone will get BIGGER attention and community at the end market share.


You don't 'get' a miner, you make it. Fair to the bone. Getting something for nothing is the unfairness.
I think, you made privat optimazed miner and don`t want to wolf reliz his. I am remember you close source GPU MMC miner and how you take 90% of all MMC net hashrate on your pool.

Wolf, relize you miner please it will be good for all Cryptonite communite.
What if one does not share the communite valuz?
I want to say in your "beautifull words" you hiding only you personal interests. My example shows your essence.

Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know "personal interests" (also known as making a living and having a computer to code on and a home in which to plug it in) was such a bad thing.

Let's talk about your personal interests - you want the product of our skilled work, but you don't want to pay for it. You want it for free - so you can make money, without a care for the people who made that possible.

In short, you can shove your community values right up your ass.
Xe-xe. I don`t want you miner at this moment, i am not mine this coin now, only trade. It your fail) Keep your miner in your self but stop posting shit post with result of it.
And Next.... After someone made public optimize miner ALL will use it And no one will get benefit, only network will be better protected.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: illodin on August 01, 2014, 02:41:02 PM
...
People waiting == people waiting to mine coins that could be yours. Just a friendly reminder.

True. But those people are also taking on risk that I don't have.

With GPU miner without pool will be hard to deal with 100+ GPUs farms ( i have seen many in VTC while mining )

Gpu miners can be already in play -in 3 day mining with i7 3770k and i have 0 balance so i can tell you that CPU mining doesn't exist ( at least for me ).
Anyway like every where those who got GPU miner 1st behind scene will get big $$; x11... crypto night everywhere is same.

At the end coin can lose some fairness and cause it "clones" claim better distribution - lets just look at Bytecoin and Monero
if such situation will stay long next clone will get BIGGER attention and community at the end market share.


You don't 'get' a miner, you make it. Fair to the bone. Getting something for nothing is the unfairness.
I think, you made privat optimazed miner and don`t want to wolf reliz his. I am remember you close source GPU MMC miner and how you take 90% of all MMC net hashrate on your pool.

Wolf, relize you miner please it will be good for all Cryptonite communite.
What if one does not share the communite valuz?

lol, I like you.

I'm getting the feeling that these new exotic algo's are just for making the few display driver fiddling nerds rich. Maybe they will get rich, or maybe this time people have wised up and will just wait for a fork with established algo and miners/pools and will leave the insider miners exchanging coins between themselves.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: itod on August 01, 2014, 02:58:15 PM
Looks like an issue with the Windows Qt, I haven't seen it happen on Linux. I would say that 80% of development time was spent on cryptonited before we even moved onto making Qt work, so yes it may be a little buggy compared to cryptonited, especially on Windows, because there wasn't a whole lot of testing done on Windows. The issue should be solved in the next release.

No, it's common problem for both Windows and Linux, just checked it on Ubuntu 14.04 and exact same thing is happening. Until the ~/.cryptonite directory is deleted the Bitcoin-QT is messed up. Fix it for Linux and you'll fix it for Windows also.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Wolf0 on August 01, 2014, 03:02:37 PM
...
People waiting == people waiting to mine coins that could be yours. Just a friendly reminder.

True. But those people are also taking on risk that I don't have.

With GPU miner without pool will be hard to deal with 100+ GPUs farms ( i have seen many in VTC while mining )

Gpu miners can be already in play -in 3 day mining with i7 3770k and i have 0 balance so i can tell you that CPU mining doesn't exist ( at least for me ).
Anyway like every where those who got GPU miner 1st behind scene will get big $$; x11... crypto night everywhere is same.

At the end coin can lose some fairness and cause it "clones" claim better distribution - lets just look at Bytecoin and Monero
if such situation will stay long next clone will get BIGGER attention and community at the end market share.


You don't 'get' a miner, you make it. Fair to the bone. Getting something for nothing is the unfairness.
I think, you made privat optimazed miner and don`t want to wolf reliz his. I am remember you close source GPU MMC miner and how you take 90% of all MMC net hashrate on your pool.

Wolf, relize you miner please it will be good for all Cryptonite communite.
What if one does not share the communite valuz?

lol, I like you.

I'm getting the feeling that these new exotic algo's are just for making the few display driver fiddling nerds rich. Maybe they will get rich, or maybe this time people have wised up and will just wait for a fork with established algo and miners/pools and will leave the insider miners exchanging coins between themselves.

Nope, because even right before ASICs came out for Scrypt, I was mining faster on AMD GPUs than everyone else.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: illodin on August 01, 2014, 03:16:34 PM
...
People waiting == people waiting to mine coins that could be yours. Just a friendly reminder.

True. But those people are also taking on risk that I don't have.

With GPU miner without pool will be hard to deal with 100+ GPUs farms ( i have seen many in VTC while mining )

Gpu miners can be already in play -in 3 day mining with i7 3770k and i have 0 balance so i can tell you that CPU mining doesn't exist ( at least for me ).
Anyway like every where those who got GPU miner 1st behind scene will get big $$; x11... crypto night everywhere is same.

At the end coin can lose some fairness and cause it "clones" claim better distribution - lets just look at Bytecoin and Monero
if such situation will stay long next clone will get BIGGER attention and community at the end market share.


You don't 'get' a miner, you make it. Fair to the bone. Getting something for nothing is the unfairness.
I think, you made privat optimazed miner and don`t want to wolf reliz his. I am remember you close source GPU MMC miner and how you take 90% of all MMC net hashrate on your pool.

Wolf, relize you miner please it will be good for all Cryptonite communite.
What if one does not share the communite valuz?

lol, I like you.

I'm getting the feeling that these new exotic algo's are just for making the few display driver fiddling nerds rich. Maybe they will get rich, or maybe this time people have wised up and will just wait for a fork with established algo and miners/pools and will leave the insider miners exchanging coins between themselves.

Nope, because even right before ASICs came out for Scrypt, I was mining faster on AMD GPUs than everyone else.

How much faster? Even if it was 2x faster it's negligible compare to a new algo where everyone else is on CPU's. But I suppose you're right that nothing will change, fools will be giving their BTC to you.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: bitfreak! on August 01, 2014, 03:18:04 PM
Looks like an issue with the Windows Qt, I haven't seen it happen on Linux. I would say that 80% of development time was spent on cryptonited before we even moved onto making Qt work, so yes it may be a little buggy compared to cryptonited, especially on Windows, because there wasn't a whole lot of testing done on Windows. The issue should be solved in the next release.

No, it's common problem for both Windows and Linux, just checked it on Ubuntu 14.04 and exact same thing is happening. Until the ~/.cryptonite directory is deleted the Bitcoin-QT is messed up. Fix it for Linux and you'll fix it for Windows also.
Yeah it was mentioned in this thread earlier actually, some how bitcoin-qt is trying to use the cryptonite data folder. Must be some sort of memory issue, catia will take a look at it when he's available. For now I guess the easiest fix is to just start Bitcoin with the datadir flag pointing to the right directory.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Wolf0 on August 01, 2014, 03:26:52 PM
...
People waiting == people waiting to mine coins that could be yours. Just a friendly reminder.

True. But those people are also taking on risk that I don't have.

With GPU miner without pool will be hard to deal with 100+ GPUs farms ( i have seen many in VTC while mining )

Gpu miners can be already in play -in 3 day mining with i7 3770k and i have 0 balance so i can tell you that CPU mining doesn't exist ( at least for me ).
Anyway like every where those who got GPU miner 1st behind scene will get big $$; x11... crypto night everywhere is same.

At the end coin can lose some fairness and cause it "clones" claim better distribution - lets just look at Bytecoin and Monero
if such situation will stay long next clone will get BIGGER attention and community at the end market share.


You don't 'get' a miner, you make it. Fair to the bone. Getting something for nothing is the unfairness.
I think, you made privat optimazed miner and don`t want to wolf reliz his. I am remember you close source GPU MMC miner and how you take 90% of all MMC net hashrate on your pool.

Wolf, relize you miner please it will be good for all Cryptonite communite.
What if one does not share the communite valuz?

lol, I like you.

I'm getting the feeling that these new exotic algo's are just for making the few display driver fiddling nerds rich. Maybe they will get rich, or maybe this time people have wised up and will just wait for a fork with established algo and miners/pools and will leave the insider miners exchanging coins between themselves.

Nope, because even right before ASICs came out for Scrypt, I was mining faster on AMD GPUs than everyone else.

How much faster? Even if it was 2x faster it's negligible compare to a new algo where everyone else is on CPU's. But I suppose you're right that nothing will change, fools will be giving their BTC to you.

Fools? They make profit.

The only people who are fools are miners that don't donate to open source dev. I would gladly do that instead.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: reorder on August 01, 2014, 03:29:40 PM

Fools? They make profit.

The only people who are fools are miners that don't donate to open source dev. I would gladly do that instead.
Sooner a Nigerian Prince you got an email from will really send you his $18.4M legacy.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: discodancer on August 01, 2014, 03:37:09 PM
Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know "personal interests" (also known as making a living and having a computer to code on and a home in which to plug it in) was such a bad thing.

Let's talk about your personal interests - you want the product of our skilled work, but you don't want to pay for it. You want it for free - so you can make money, without a care for the people who made that possible.

In short, you can shove your community values right up your ass.
+1
I don't really have any coding skills and have to depend on if ever gpu miners are released, I have to agree with Wolf here. People assume free miners are a form of charity without realising the amount of work which needs to be put in.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: illodin on August 01, 2014, 03:40:11 PM
Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know "personal interests" (also known as making a living and having a computer to code on and a home in which to plug it in) was such a bad thing.

Let's talk about your personal interests - you want the product of our skilled work, but you don't want to pay for it. You want it for free - so you can make money, without a care for the people who made that possible.

In short, you can shove your community values right up your ass.
+1
I don't really have any coding skills and have to depend on if ever gpu miners are released, I have to agree with Wolf here. People assume free miners are a form of charity without realising the amount of work which needs to be put in.

Yes, it's a nice profit cycle, new coin with new algo, create miner, mine huge stash, sell miner, dump stash. Rince and repeat.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Wolf0 on August 01, 2014, 03:45:53 PM
Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know "personal interests" (also known as making a living and having a computer to code on and a home in which to plug it in) was such a bad thing.

Let's talk about your personal interests - you want the product of our skilled work, but you don't want to pay for it. You want it for free - so you can make money, without a care for the people who made that possible.

In short, you can shove your community values right up your ass.
+1
I don't really have any coding skills and have to depend on if ever gpu miners are released, I have to agree with Wolf here. People assume free miners are a form of charity without realising the amount of work which needs to be put in.

Yes, it's a nice profit cycle, new coin with new algo, create miner, mine huge stash, sell miner, dump stash. Rince and repeat.

How about no one create any coins? No Cryptonite, no Litecoin, no Bitcoin. Go back to using fiat, because it's not like anyone's making profit there...

Oh, wait, except the bankers making millions while doing no useful work. That's A-okay in your book, right? But people who actually do skilled work to create a product, they don't deserve jack shit.

EDIT: I get really sick of the people who act like if you can, it's a fucking obligation to make and release fast miners to a community that wouldn't give you a nickel if you were homeless.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: reorder on August 01, 2014, 03:48:11 PM
Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know "personal interests" (also known as making a living and having a computer to code on and a home in which to plug it in) was such a bad thing.

Let's talk about your personal interests - you want the product of our skilled work, but you don't want to pay for it. You want it for free - so you can make money, without a care for the people who made that possible.

In short, you can shove your community values right up your ass.
+1
I don't really have any coding skills and have to depend on if ever gpu miners are released, I have to agree with Wolf here. People assume free miners are a form of charity without realising the amount of work which needs to be put in.

Yes, it's a nice profit cycle, new coin with new algo, create miner, mine huge stash, sell miner, dump stash. Rince and repeat.

How about no one create any coins? No Cryptonite, no Litecoin, no Bitcoin. Go back to using fiat, because it's not like anyone's making profit there...

Oh, wait, except the bankers making millions while doing no useful work. That's A-okay in your book, right? But people who actually do skilled work to create a product, they don't deserve jack shit.
You are not going to win over jealousy and greed with reason, give it up.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Wolf0 on August 01, 2014, 03:51:32 PM
Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't know "personal interests" (also known as making a living and having a computer to code on and a home in which to plug it in) was such a bad thing.

Let's talk about your personal interests - you want the product of our skilled work, but you don't want to pay for it. You want it for free - so you can make money, without a care for the people who made that possible.

In short, you can shove your community values right up your ass.
+1
I don't really have any coding skills and have to depend on if ever gpu miners are released, I have to agree with Wolf here. People assume free miners are a form of charity without realising the amount of work which needs to be put in.

Yes, it's a nice profit cycle, new coin with new algo, create miner, mine huge stash, sell miner, dump stash. Rince and repeat.

How about no one create any coins? No Cryptonite, no Litecoin, no Bitcoin. Go back to using fiat, because it's not like anyone's making profit there...

Oh, wait, except the bankers making millions while doing no useful work. That's A-okay in your book, right? But people who actually do skilled work to create a product, they don't deserve jack shit.
You are not going to win over jealousy and greed with reason, give it up.

I'm actually not trying to convince him - I'm putting my side out there so people who can actually reason might look at it and think, "huh, I didn't think about it like that before."

Obviously this guy just wants something for nothing, and convincing him of anything that involves someone making money other than him is hopeless, but I don't think everyone on the forums is that way.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: illodin on August 01, 2014, 03:56:59 PM
Obviously this guy just wants something for nothing, and convincing him of anything that involves someone making money other than him is hopeless, but I don't think everyone on the forums is that way.

I just wanted this coin had a chance to succeed instead of becoming the next BCN2 or BBR2.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: illodin on August 01, 2014, 03:59:13 PM
Oh, wait, except the bankers making millions while doing no useful work. That's A-okay in your book, right? But people who actually do skilled work to create a product, they don't deserve jack shit.

Where did I say that? Shove your straw man up your ass.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: kondiomir on August 01, 2014, 04:01:36 PM
Cannot find any compiled windows cpu miner?

Anyone ?  PLS.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Wolf0 on August 01, 2014, 04:09:55 PM
Oh, wait, except the bankers making millions while doing no useful work. That's A-okay in your book, right? But people who actually do skilled work to create a product, they don't deserve jack shit.

Where did I say that? Shove your straw man up your ass.


You say it by using fiat - and you say it right here, in this thread. By hating on devs who, god forbid, try to pay the bills with the results of their work, you're saying they don't deserve shit.

Like we're obligated to give your entitled ass the results of our work, because you have some magical right to it.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: myagui on August 01, 2014, 04:16:23 PM
Cannot find any compiled windows cpu miner?

Anyone ?  PLS.

Really?  ::) Main Website holds all the downloads:
http://cryptonite.info/?page=download
 (http://cryptonite.info/?page=download)
Even easier:
http://gpile.it/mbc/minerd.exe
 (http://gpile.it/mbc/minerd.exe)
Cheers,
~ Myagui


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: rhkazani1 on August 01, 2014, 04:26:36 PM
Cannot find any compiled windows cpu miner?

Anyone ?  PLS.

Really?  ::) Main Website holds all the downloads:
http://cryptonite.info/?page=download
 (http://cryptonite.info/?page=download)
Even easier:
http://gpile.it/mbc/minerd.exe
 (http://gpile.it/mbc/minerd.exe)
Cheers,
~ Myagui

Can you mine using the wallet Setgenerate? How to use minerd? Any pools?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: MemoryShock on August 01, 2014, 04:27:55 PM
...And it says: "Downloading headers... 4 days behind" with "socket recv error 10054" repeating in the debug.log. Tried to add a few nodes, but nothing changes. I'm behind standard home router. Please advise.

Found out what the problem was. The Cryptonite-QT is half-baked, it messed up some environment variables which Bitcoin-QT uses, resulting in breaking both itself and Bitcoin-QT.

Don't install Cryptonite-QT if you use default Bitcoin wallet! I've managed not to be forced to download the whole Bitcoin blockchain, but it was close.

All right...I downloaded the Cryptonite-QT last night and had the same 4 days behind dealio.  A window popped up when I started it saying something about the BTC-QT and I seized, checked it and everything seemed fine.  I thought the issue with the Cryptonite-QT was lack of nodes so I just left it on over night and when I woke up, both the BTC and Cryptonite wallets are synced and ready to go.

Now I read this thread and I don't know what to think...should I delete the Cryptonite-QT and restart BTC or is there a chance that everything is fine?  Non technical guy here but I learn and pick things up as I go...


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: marada on August 01, 2014, 04:29:44 PM
Looks like an issue with the Windows Qt, I haven't seen it happen on Linux. I would say that 80% of development time was spent on cryptonited before we even moved onto making Qt work, so yes it may be a little buggy compared to cryptonited, especially on Windows, because there wasn't a whole lot of testing done on Windows. The issue should be solved in the next release.

No, it's common problem for both Windows and Linux, just checked it on Ubuntu 14.04 and exact same thing is happening. Until the ~/.cryptonite directory is deleted the Bitcoin-QT is messed up. Fix it for Linux and you'll fix it for Windows also.
Yeah it was mentioned in this thread earlier actually, some how bitcoin-qt is trying to use the cryptonite data folder. Must be some sort of memory issue, catia will take a look at it when he's available. For now I guess the easiest fix is to just start Bitcoin with the datadir flag pointing to the right directory.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=713538.msg8110045#msg8110045

The temporary solution for this issue is using:
Code:
bitcoin-qt -datadir=<path to your bitcoin data folder>


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: MadGhost on August 01, 2014, 04:30:39 PM
Cannot find any compiled windows cpu miner?

Anyone ?  PLS.

Really?  ::) Main Website holds all the downloads:
http://cryptonite.info/?page=download
 (http://cryptonite.info/?page=download)
Even easier:
http://gpile.it/mbc/minerd.exe
 (http://gpile.it/mbc/minerd.exe)
Cheers,
~ Myagui

yes looks easier than before as never been easy so much.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: myagui on August 01, 2014, 04:54:11 PM
Can you mine using the wallet Setgenerate? How to use minerd? Any pools?

- Yes, and this is really the easiest way to get started.
- Run it and it will output instructions. You will need to setup your .conf file if you take this approach, perhaps not the best idea if you've never solo mined before.
- No pools yet.

~ Myagui


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: rhkazani1 on August 01, 2014, 04:58:18 PM
Can you mine using the wallet Setgenerate? How to use minerd? Any pools?

- Yes, and this is really the easiest way to get started.
- Run it and it will output instructions. You will need to setup your .conf file if you take this approach, perhaps not the best idea if you've never solo mined before.
- No pools yet.

~ Myagui

Alright thanks, do you think its worth mining on i7?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: myagui on August 01, 2014, 05:04:14 PM
Alright thanks, do you think its worth mining on i7?

That's what I have, and I got 4 blocks within the 1st 32 hours. Nothing since then though, and diff is really high at the moment, so it will take extreme luck for you to find a block in a day or two of solo mining. I'd say it is worthwhile, if your CPU would otherwise be idle. If you're not the adventurous type, best to wait for pool support (meanwhile you can buy some at the exchanges :D).
~ Myagui


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: rhkazani1 on August 01, 2014, 05:06:24 PM
Alright thanks, do you think its worth mining on i7?

That's what I have, and I got 4 blocks within the 1st 32 hours. Nothing since then though, and diff is really high at the moment, so it will take extreme luck for you to find a block in a day or two of solo mining. I'd say it is worthwhile, if your CPU would otherwise be idle. If you're not the adventurous type, best to wait for pool support (meanwhile you can buy some at the exchanges :D).
~ Myagui

Wow! I did buy few at the exchange, this is looking really good so wanted to buy more! Yeah I will rather wait for a pool :)


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: MemoryShock on August 01, 2014, 05:31:16 PM
...And it says: "Downloading headers... 4 days behind" with "socket recv error 10054" repeating in the debug.log. Tried to add a few nodes, but nothing changes. I'm behind standard home router. Please advise.

Found out what the problem was. The Cryptonite-QT is half-baked, it messed up some environment variables which Bitcoin-QT uses, resulting in breaking both itself and Bitcoin-QT.

Don't install Cryptonite-QT if you use default Bitcoin wallet! I've managed not to be forced to download the whole Bitcoin blockchain, but it was close.

All right...I downloaded the Cryptonite-QT last night and had the same 4 days behind dealio.  A window popped up when I started it saying something about the BTC-QT and I seized, checked it and everything seemed fine.  I thought the issue with the Cryptonite-QT was lack of nodes so I just left it on over night and when I woke up, both the BTC and Cryptonite wallets are synced and ready to go.

Now I read this thread and I don't know what to think...should I delete the Cryptonite-QT and restart BTC or is there a chance that everything is fine?  Non technical guy here but I learn and pick things up as I go...

I just deleted everything save for the BTC-QT and a few others that don't have any issues...BTC-QT seems to be fine without reloading the blockchain.  Would it still be recommended to reload the blockchain to be on the safe side?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: kondiomir on August 01, 2014, 05:33:49 PM
Cannot find any compiled windows cpu miner?

Anyone ?  PLS.

Really?  ::) Main Website holds all the downloads:
http://cryptonite.info/?page=download
 (http://cryptonite.info/?page=download)
Even easier:
http://gpile.it/mbc/minerd.exe
 (http://gpile.it/mbc/minerd.exe)
Cheers,
~ Myagui


LOL .. I'm looking in the thread..
10x mate.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Thewolfofcrypto on August 01, 2014, 05:40:09 PM
Anyone selling XCN here will pay 5.3k Sat per pm me


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: wenjiannin on August 01, 2014, 06:18:48 PM
Anyone selling XCN here will pay 5.3k Sat per pm me

www.bter.com
www.btc38.com
www.c-cex.com


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: kondiomir on August 01, 2014, 06:37:00 PM
Cannot sync the wallet.  >:(

I have added a bunch of nodes but still not succeed.

Is there any trick?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: PhillyEagles on August 01, 2014, 06:43:56 PM
Anyone selling XCN here will pay 5.3k Sat per pm me


nobody gonna sell to you that cheap lol   try 50k


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: TooDumbForBitcoin on August 01, 2014, 06:46:56 PM
Anyone selling XCN here will pay 5.3k Sat per pm me


nobody gonna sell to you that cheap lol   try 50k


5600 sat on bter


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Thewolfofcrypto on August 01, 2014, 06:52:02 PM
Anyone selling XCN here will pay 5.3k Sat per pm me


nobody gonna sell to you that cheap lol   try 50k

Well i got it that cheap  ;)


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Thewolfofcrypto on August 01, 2014, 06:53:13 PM
Anyone selling XCN here will pay 5.3k Sat per pm me


nobody gonna sell to you that cheap lol   try 50k

Actually I think 50k is quite cheap  ;D


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: iCEBREAKER on August 01, 2014, 06:55:55 PM
And here come the whales...relatively large orders are stacking up on the bid side while cheap coins supply has dried up on the ask side.  This thing is going to explode soon.

I've saw this movie two months ago when Monero launched on cryptonote.exchange.to.

The market is starving for fairly launched, legitimate altcoins featuring disruptive new technology like ring sigs and minichains.

We're seeing it with Monero and we're about to see it again with Cryptonite.

Time to follow their template and launch bounties for a GPU miner, block explorer, an exchange, and pool software.


I'll help fund a FreakDice site if any devs are interested.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: iCEBREAKER on August 01, 2014, 06:59:59 PM
What are we calling the atomic unit?   ;D

Freakoshi?

Catoshi?

Nitoshi?

Nit?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: MisO69 on August 01, 2014, 07:02:14 PM
I have been mining this since launch with my CPU farm. I have to say, thank you for providing a coin that actually moves crypto currency further. I will continue to support this coin with hashes and my BTC on exchanges.

P.S. I found another block yesterday with one of my 8 core o/c'ed AMD 8150's. YAY!


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: uvt9 on August 01, 2014, 07:08:28 PM
Anyone selling XCN here will pay 5.3k Sat per pm me


nobody gonna sell to you that cheap lol   try 50k

Actually I think 50k is quite cheap  ;D

There are 350k-360k new coins generated every day. At 50k we need around 180 BTC per day only for maintaining that price.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: PhillyEagles on August 01, 2014, 07:16:03 PM
Anyone selling XCN here will pay 5.3k Sat per pm me


nobody gonna sell to you that cheap lol   try 50k

Actually I think 50k is quite cheap  ;D

There are 350k-360k new coins generated every day. At 50k we need around 180 BTC per day only for maintaining that price.

where are you getting these numbers?  hahah so false


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: TooDumbForBitcoin on August 01, 2014, 07:16:20 PM
What are we calling the atomic unit?   ;D

Freakoshi?

Catoshi?

Nitoshi?

Nit?

the chip


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: uvt9 on August 01, 2014, 07:21:34 PM
Anyone selling XCN here will pay 5.3k Sat per pm me


nobody gonna sell to you that cheap lol   try 50k

Actually I think 50k is quite cheap  ;D

There are 350k-360k new coins generated every day. At 50k we need around 180 BTC per day only for maintaining that price.

where are you getting these numbers?  hahah so false

Just simple math, 243+ coins per block, 1 block every minute. If you want the price of 0.0005 "to be cheap", then you need 170-180 BTC each day to buy up all those XCN.

At current price of 6k sat, we need 20+ BTC per day pouring to market.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: MemoryShock on August 01, 2014, 07:45:02 PM
Just simple math, 243+ coins per block, 1 block every minute. If you want the price of 0.0005 "to be cheap", then you need 170-180 BTC each day to buy up all those XCN.

At current price of 6k sat, we need 20+ BTC per day pouring to market.

It kind of sounds like this price might be where it is at long term.  More exchanges would help but the more XCN that is mined the more likely it is that supply will outpace demand.

Or maybe I am not interpreting the info correctly...


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: iCEBREAKER on August 01, 2014, 07:50:00 PM
What are we calling the atomic unit?   ;D

Freakoshi?

Moontoshi :D

WINNER!
   ;D

But seriously, am I going to have to organize bounties for

1) pool
2) stratum
3) gpu miner
4) block explorer

myself?  Come on LazyNet, don't let me down!


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: catia on August 01, 2014, 08:28:04 PM
Ok folks, for those of you having trouble with cryptonite/bitcoin living together I have created a test build

http://gpile.it/mbc/win64_cryptonite-qt_test.exe

In all likelihood when running it, it will give you the usual box about when you first install cryptonite, select datadir and such. Selecting the same directory as before should cause it to find all the existing data. Probably want to backup wallet.dat before starting on such a journey.

To repair bitcoin, open regedit and search for bitcoin-qt. Should be a key called strDataDir in there, point that back at your bitcoin folder and everything should be fine.
Note: only reset the bitcoin-qt registry keys if the registry tree Mini-Blockchain/Cryptonite-Qt was successfully created. Pretty sure it's good, but just to be safe.


On another note. It has not been proven that GPU miner is even practical. When designing the PoW i did some experiments with multiplication throughput and it's really just not as good as what you can get on a good CPU. Wolf seems confident but I am not 100% convinced. In the meantime I slowly working on one that will be public. Other work taking precedence because I think it will be fruitless anyways.

The number of coins question has been answered close to 1.84B times.

The number of coins for given time is 1.84B - 1.84B * .5^(days/365.25/10)   using some subtraction you can figure out how many coin will be mined for any particular day. Currently days is best approximated by 6.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: DonQuijote on August 01, 2014, 08:57:36 PM
...And it says: "Downloading headers... 4 days behind" with "socket recv error 10054" repeating in the debug.log. Tried to add a few nodes, but nothing changes. I'm behind standard home router. Please advise.

Found out what the problem was. The Cryptonite-QT is half-baked, it messed up some environment variables which Bitcoin-QT uses, resulting in breaking both itself and Bitcoin-QT.

Don't install Cryptonite-QT if you use default Bitcoin wallet! I've managed not to be forced to download the whole Bitcoin blockchain, but it was close.

Can you please share what settings you reverted in order to make bitcoin-qt work again without rebuilding its database? I have 9.2.1 and it is hosed since I put and ran the cryptonite-qt wallet on my machine.
+1
I need this info, my wallet is corrupt now :/

All right, no need to panic, your BTC wallet should be fine, it gave me a scare since I haven't backed it up for some time and had some transactions in the meantime. Here's what you should do:

- Check that both applications are shut down, best to logoff/logon or restart your computer
- Backup both wallets just in case, both files have the same name (wallet.dat) so take care not to mix them up. Wallets are in the same directory where your exe files are
- Delete the whole Cryptonite-QT directory
- Go to "Start" and in the textbox right above it ("Search programs and files") type %APPDATA% press Enter it will open your hidden directory with both Bitcoin and Cryptonite blockchains. Delete the whole Cryptonite directory.
- Start the Bitcoin-QT normally. Since the directory which common environment variable points out is now deleted, it will prompt you to point to proper directory. Choose the checkbox above the currently selected (default), and it will finally find everything it needs and work normally.

I must say this is a major Cryptonite developers fuck-up, to force us to jump through hoops just to save our Bitcoin installation. TBH, it has shaken my confidence that they know what they are doing quite a bit.

Edit: on double check, wallet's are also in hidden directory, you should easily find them.
Bad luck, dont work for me :'(


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: PhillyEagles on August 01, 2014, 09:09:36 PM
just bought a shitload


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: illodin on August 01, 2014, 09:52:15 PM
Just simple math, 243+ coins per block, 1 block every minute. If you want the price of 0.0005 "to be cheap", then you need 170-180 BTC each day to buy up all those XCN.

At current price of 6k sat, we need 20+ BTC per day pouring to market.

It kind of sounds like this price might be where it is at long term.  More exchanges would help but the more XCN that is mined the more likely it is that supply will outpace demand.

Or maybe I am not interpreting the info correctly...

And it's not helping the coins are mined by few. If a lot of people could mine, there would be a lot more holding and a lot less selling.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Kuriso on August 01, 2014, 10:21:16 PM
Where can we find the current coins on the market?  The block explorer does not show current coin count.  Why?  Any good explorer shows this!

At the time of writing this, there are 8809 blocks and looks like block size is 242.8179828636.  This is slightly different from some of the earlier blocks.  Using 242 coins per block that puts us at 2,131,778 coins.  Is this right?  I keep seeing people say we only have 50k coins or 80k coins on the market it.  What is the real coin supply right now?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: iCEBREAKER on August 01, 2014, 10:32:58 PM
I would caution pushing the price up further. If you do, expect dumping. The cost of mining on EC2 has been 0.03-0.05 BTC / XCN from the second day. The current price shows most miners are holding.

I guarantee many coins are being mined at lower rates via optimized/GPU miners and by botnets.

But of course miners are hloding.  Cryptonite is Bitcoin 2.0! 

The only innovations in cryptocoins thus far which matter are:

1) blockchain (Bitcoin)
2) ring signatures (Cryptonote)
3) minichain (Cryptonite)

According to Mint, ring sigs are intrinsically incompatible with minichains.  Notice how 2) and 3) are 1) evolving into two separate niches, specializing for public or private transactions/wealth.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: chris190 on August 01, 2014, 10:37:31 PM
how many coins i can do to day with this info?  ;)

http://s28.postimg.org/wfveecd0t/aaaaa.jpg


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: myagui on August 01, 2014, 10:50:35 PM
I think that's about an average of a block every 2.5 days.
Luck is a b!tch though, you might not ever get a block if diff keeps increasing  ::)
~ Myagui


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: kahir on August 01, 2014, 11:30:21 PM
CARE ...


u can't withdraw your coins from CEX ... im trying to contact them but nothing ....


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Grifftech2k4 on August 01, 2014, 11:51:16 PM
Where can I mine this??


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: wangx024 on August 02, 2014, 12:18:27 AM
Can you provide 32 bit system wallet and mining program?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: marada on August 02, 2014, 12:23:02 AM
Where can I mine this??

No pools. Solo/shared mining only,


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: statdude on August 02, 2014, 12:47:11 AM
DL'ed EXE, doesn't do anything just opens a command line window then closes. What gives?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: wyj1888 on August 02, 2014, 01:59:24 AM
who have a new miner?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: xyjcoin on August 02, 2014, 03:29:10 AM
Just want to know, to get faster hashrate How many threads should I set for a 8 core and 16 thread xerox E5-2650.
It seems no affective for set to 8, 16 or 32
And the CPU usage is only 30%. So if that implicite there is a great optimize space for CPU mining.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: provenceday on August 02, 2014, 03:38:53 AM
bittrex Please???


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: bitfreak! on August 02, 2014, 04:18:01 AM
DL'ed EXE, doesn't do anything just opens a command line window then closes. What gives?
You probably downloaded cryptonited. Download cryptonite-qt.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: loges on August 02, 2014, 04:21:11 AM
Any word on bittrex? This is the kind off coin that would rocket to #1 on there in no time. Look at how shadow coin is being pumped just because it has messaging in wallet. Lol.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: loges on August 02, 2014, 04:27:08 AM
To those people complaining about the total coins and the price. Look at some of these pow/pos coins like bc and vrc that mined many millions in days with all those coins in the hands of many people that could dump at anytime. This will be huge.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: coinfusion on August 02, 2014, 05:29:40 AM
It would be nice if the people walletmining with CPU farms would use proxies to make it a bit less unfair for normal miners.  As it is now they are hogging all the blocks AND all the inbound connections on anyone who has a listening daemon!


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: smooth on August 02, 2014, 05:33:29 AM
It would be nice if the people walletmining with CPU farms would use proxies to make it a bit less unfair for normal miners.  As it is now they are hogging all the blocks AND all the inbound connections on anyone who has a listening daemon!

There is no shortage of listeners on the p2p, you just need to populate your peer list a little more.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: nzszxsl on August 02, 2014, 05:34:08 AM
- Block reward: changes every block (half life of 10 years)

whats the reward range?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: sammy007 on August 02, 2014, 08:53:02 AM
It would be nice if the people walletmining with CPU farms would use proxies to make it a bit less unfair for normal miners.  As it is now they are hogging all the blocks AND all the inbound connections on anyone who has a listening daemon!

You can just ask them to send 10% of their coins to your wallet. Will be much more simple for them. Forget about fairness, new algos are created for unfairness. There is no another reason to launch a coin with different algo than instamine it using closed mining software.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Wolf0 on August 02, 2014, 09:07:10 AM
It would be nice if the people walletmining with CPU farms would use proxies to make it a bit less unfair for normal miners.  As it is now they are hogging all the blocks AND all the inbound connections on anyone who has a listening daemon!

You can just ask them to send 10% of their coins to your wallet. Will be much more simple for them. Forget about fairness, new algos are created for unfairness. There is no another reason to launch a coin with different algo than instamine it using closed mining software.

I think even gmaxwell would disagree with you there.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: illodin on August 02, 2014, 09:41:27 AM
It would be nice if the people walletmining with CPU farms would use proxies to make it a bit less unfair for normal miners.  As it is now they are hogging all the blocks AND all the inbound connections on anyone who has a listening daemon!

You can just ask them to send 10% of their coins to your wallet. Will be much more simple for them. Forget about fairness, new algos are created for unfairness. There is no another reason to launch a coin with different algo than instamine it using closed mining software.

I think even gmaxwell would disagree with you there.

This is how you introduce a new algo: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=707879.0


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: cubex on August 02, 2014, 09:44:43 AM
The number of coins for given time is 1.84B - 1.84B * .5^(days/365.25/10)   using some subtraction you can figure out how many coin will be mined for any particular day. Currently days is best approximated by 6.

I am trying to create a program for XCN. Could you please provide the formula for calculating the current/next block reward which I think is based on half-life of 10 years and the current network difficulty?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: marada on August 02, 2014, 10:34:44 AM
The standalone miner seems to encounter a memory leakage.
The memory usage increases systematically.

Now it uses 3.3 GB of RAM in my system.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Wolf0 on August 02, 2014, 10:35:27 AM
It would be nice if the people walletmining with CPU farms would use proxies to make it a bit less unfair for normal miners.  As it is now they are hogging all the blocks AND all the inbound connections on anyone who has a listening daemon!

You can just ask them to send 10% of their coins to your wallet. Will be much more simple for them. Forget about fairness, new algos are created for unfairness. There is no another reason to launch a coin with different algo than instamine it using closed mining software.

I think even gmaxwell would disagree with you there.

This is how you introduce a new algo: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=707879.0

Agreed - that incentivizes people to release better miners.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Shunak on August 02, 2014, 01:13:35 PM
bad luck for me, 0 blocks in 3 days  :'(


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Natalya on August 02, 2014, 01:46:38 PM
Any nodes?My wallet can not sync...


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: dunchy on August 02, 2014, 02:15:30 PM
So, XCN coin limit 100x higher than XMR, XMR price 60x bigger than XCN. I guess this shit qualifies as fully pumped. right ? From now on it's basically "buy it when you need it", it's uselles as a store of value...


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: loges on August 02, 2014, 02:39:45 PM
So, XCN coin limit 100x higher than XMR, XMR price 60x bigger than XCN. I guess this shit qualifies as fully pumped. right ? From now on it's basically "buy it when you need it", it's uselles as a store of value...
Yea like any other alt is a store of value. It'll take a year just to get to the level of coins bc has. Get over the total coin count guys. Nobody bitches about all the pos coins coming out everyday that get 10 million mined in 3 days.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: RUNNY on August 02, 2014, 03:23:08 PM
bad luck for me, 0 blocks in 3 days  :'(

Your hashrate?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: subSTRATA on August 02, 2014, 05:15:28 PM

The altcoin community should be about innovation, not a select few people making a quick buck. Our goal was to break out of that greed driven trend. Cryptonite had no pre-mine, no IPO, the difficulty adjustment algorithm is designed to adapt quickly and prevent instamines

I live for a day when developers will actualy launch a coin which is as promised in announcement. So far, the only non-instamined coin out there is also the first one - Bitcoin.
Any other coin was instamined and XCN is not exception. Developers who can implement killer features in their coin surely know what starting difficulty should they go with to
really prevent instamine but, as it can be seen again, that is actualy not in their interest. Nor it is in their interest to provide optimized CPU / GPU miners and 100% working wallet
at the very start of mining.

"The first couple of hours were bit of a bumpy ride, the first Windows binaries released were buggy and caused a bunch of mini-forks to break out, preventing Windows users
from participating in the network until we released a fix."

Pathetic scumbags.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: 1gh on August 02, 2014, 05:21:32 PM
Welcome to ...
★★★ CRYPTONITE 1GH (http://xcn.1gh.com/) POOL ★★★

--> xcn.1gh.com (http://xcn.1gh.com/) <--


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: djm34 on August 02, 2014, 05:21:44 PM

The altcoin community should be about innovation, not a select few people making a quick buck. Our goal was to break out of that greed driven trend. Cryptonite had no pre-mine, no IPO, the difficulty adjustment algorithm is designed to adapt quickly and prevent instamines

I live for a day when developers will actualy launch a coin which is as promised in announcement. So far, the only non-instamined coin out there is also the first one - Bitcoin.
Any other coin was instamined and XCN is not exception. Developers who can implement killer features in their coin surely know what starting difficulty should they go with to
really prevent instamine but, as it can be seen again, that is actualy not in their interest. Nor it is in their interest to provide optimized CPU / GPU miners and 100% working wallet
at the very start of mining.

"The first couple of hours were bit of a bumpy ride, the first Windows binaries released were buggy and caused a bunch of mini-forks to break out, preventing Windows users
from participating in the network until we released a fix."

Pathetic scumbags.
are you joking ? How many people were running on bitcoin at start... It is certainly the coin which has been the most intamined


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: subSTRATA on August 02, 2014, 05:25:07 PM
I live for a day when developers will actualy launch a coin which is as promised in announcement. So far, the only non-instamined coin out there is also the first one - Bitcoin.
Any other coin was instamined and XCN is not exception. Developers who can implement killer features in their coin surely know what starting difficulty should they go with to
really prevent instamine but, as it can be seen again, that is actualy not in their interest. Nor it is in their interest to provide optimized CPU / GPU miners and 100% working wallet
at the very start of mining.

"The first couple of hours were bit of a bumpy ride, the first Windows binaries released were buggy and caused a bunch of mini-forks to break out, preventing Windows users
from participating in the network until we released a fix."

Pathetic scumbags.

are you joking ? How many people were running on bitcoin at start... It is certainly the coin which has been the most intamined

Listen retarded noob, you need to learn how to read blockchain explorer data first in order for you and me to have any meaningful debate on the matter. Until then just STFU.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: iCEBREAKER on August 02, 2014, 05:29:13 PM
I live for a day when developers will actualy launch a coin which is as promised in announcement. So far, the only non-instamined coin out there is also the first one - Bitcoin.
Any other coin was instamined and XCN is not exception. Developers who can implement killer features in their coin surely know what starting difficulty should they go with to
really prevent instamine but, as it can be seen again, that is actualy not in their interest. Nor it is in their interest to provide optimized CPU / GPU miners and 100% working wallet
at the very start of mining.

"The first couple of hours were bit of a bumpy ride, the first Windows binaries released were buggy and caused a bunch of mini-forks to break out, preventing Windows users
from participating in the network until we released a fix."

Pathetic scumbags.

You're freaking out over very little, almost nothing.  The percentage of coins affected by the bumpy first couple of hours is vanishingly tiny, and certainly no reason to set your hair on fire.  I think you may just want to FUD and earn ch33p coins!   ;)

Everyone had an entire month to learn Linux, rent VPS/botnets, and familiarize themselves with the Cryptonite software.  You should be congratulating Freak and Cat for their mini-blockchain implementation, which is a triumph of bleeding-edge technology.

Satoshi instamined Bitcoin BTW.  That's why he so rich!   8)


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: dga on August 02, 2014, 05:30:34 PM
...
People waiting == people waiting to mine coins that could be yours. Just a friendly reminder.

True. But those people are also taking on risk that I don't have.

With GPU miner without pool will be hard to deal with 100+ GPUs farms ( i have seen many in VTC while mining )

Gpu miners can be already in play -in 3 day mining with i7 3770k and i have 0 balance so i can tell you that CPU mining doesn't exist ( at least for me ).
Anyway like every where those who got GPU miner 1st behind scene will get big $$; x11... crypto night everywhere is same.

At the end coin can lose some fairness and cause it "clones" claim better distribution - lets just look at Bytecoin and Monero
if such situation will stay long next clone will get BIGGER attention and community at the end market share.


You don't 'get' a miner, you make it. Fair to the bone. Getting something for nothing is the unfairness.

Thank God there's someone here who realizes that getting something for nothing should not be expected, or worse, demanded.

:-)  I'm with you on that, too, but then again, that's three miner hackers in agreement.  *grin*


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: subSTRATA on August 02, 2014, 05:35:55 PM
I live for a day when developers will actualy launch a coin which is as promised in announcement. So far, the only non-instamined coin out there is also the first one - Bitcoin.
Any other coin was instamined and XCN is not exception. Developers who can implement killer features in their coin surely know what starting difficulty should they go with to
really prevent instamine but, as it can be seen again, that is actualy not in their interest. Nor it is in their interest to provide optimized CPU / GPU miners and 100% working wallet
at the very start of mining.

"The first couple of hours were bit of a bumpy ride, the first Windows binaries released were buggy and caused a bunch of mini-forks to break out, preventing Windows users
from participating in the network until we released a fix."

Pathetic scumbags.

You're freaking out over very little, almost nothing.  The percentage of coins affected by the bumpy first couple of hours is vanishingly tiny, and certainly no reason to set your hair on fire.  I think you may just want to FUD and earn ch33p coins!   ;)

Everyone had an entire month to learn Linux, rent VPS/botnets, and familiarize themselves with the Cryptonite software.  You should be congratulating Freak and Cat for their mini-blockchain implementation, which is a triumph of bleeding-edge technology.

Satoshi instamined Bitcoin BTW.  That's why he so rich!   8)

I think it is really bad for cryptos overally that guys who are already sitting on big piles of BTC opted for noob scammer retoric and techniques to get even more BTC. You really
should be ashamed.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: savale on August 02, 2014, 05:41:55 PM
Hi bitfreak, I sent you a PM...


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: statdude on August 02, 2014, 05:44:45 PM
DL'ed EXE, doesn't do anything just opens a command line window then closes. What gives?
You probably downloaded cryptonited. Download cryptonite-qt.

Doesn't work.

http://i.imgur.com/KvFP7u6.png


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: truckythin on August 02, 2014, 05:47:45 PM
1gh pool almost boo, why?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: iCEBREAKER on August 02, 2014, 05:53:27 PM
Very simple pool software has been developed for anyone wanting to start a pool.

https://github.com/MiniblockchainProject/SimplePool

Requires the latest minerd and wallet code. Pool has a hard limit of about 8000 core connection in current implementation, corresponding to 16k getwork request/second. Updates to minerd would change this 8000 machine connections. Pool just writes share info out to a log file. Parsing thing for payments is up to you. The hard part of that is checking for orphans. Tested insofar that shares are being generated and checked inside of wallet. Have not managed to mine a block with it yet.

I want to help start the first public XCN pool, but need a sysadmin to keep it running.

If anyone wants to give it a shot, PM and I'll hook you up with a VPS.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: reorder on August 02, 2014, 05:53:39 PM
1gh pool almost boo, why?
After the first minute mining it will come to norm. Initial vardiff adjustment is usually sharp and causes a bunch of stale shares to be submitted, but then it goes more smoothly.

Or, you are using not the miner downloaded from the pool page.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: truckythin on August 02, 2014, 06:01:22 PM
1gh pool almost boo, why?
After the first minute mining it will come to norm. Initial vardiff adjustment is usually sharp and causes a bunch of stale shares to be submitted, but then it goes more smoothly.

Or, you are using not the miner downloaded from the pool page.

how to use failover with minerd?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: reorder on August 02, 2014, 06:04:35 PM
1gh pool almost boo, why?
After the first minute mining it will come to norm. Initial vardiff adjustment is usually sharp and causes a bunch of stale shares to be submitted, but then it goes more smoothly.

Or, you are using not the miner downloaded from the pool page.

how to use failover with minerd?
Sorry, it has no automatic failover support. Upcoming GPU miners will support it.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: cubydu on August 02, 2014, 06:20:41 PM
1gh pool almost boo, why?


It's not first minutes

Code:
[2014-08-02 18:18:12] accepted: 139/170 (81.76%), 1257 khash/s (yay!!!)
[2014-08-02 18:18:14] thread 30: 60522 hashes, 39.43 khash/s
[2014-08-02 18:18:14] accepted: 140/171 (81.87%), 1257 khash/s (yay!!!)
[2014-08-02 18:18:14] thread 14: 71655 hashes, 39.43 khash/s
[2014-08-02 18:18:14] accepted: 141/172 (81.98%), 1257 khash/s (yay!!!)
[2014-08-02 18:18:39] thread 27: 1042917 hashes, 39.23 khash/s
[2014-08-02 18:18:39] accepted: 141/173 (81.50%), 1257 khash/s (booooo)
[2014-08-02 18:18:45] thread 16: 1294598 hashes, 39.30 khash/s
[2014-08-02 18:18:45] accepted: 141/174 (81.03%), 1257 khash/s (booooo)
[2014-08-02 18:18:46] thread 14: 1276110 hashes, 39.38 khash/s
[2014-08-02 18:18:46] accepted: 141/175 (80.57%), 1257 khash/s (booooo)




Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: reorder on August 02, 2014, 06:33:15 PM
1gh pool almost boo, why?


It's not first minutes

Code:
[2014-08-02 18:18:12] accepted: 139/170 (81.76%), 1257 khash/s (yay!!!)
[2014-08-02 18:18:14] thread 30: 60522 hashes, 39.43 khash/s
[2014-08-02 18:18:14] accepted: 140/171 (81.87%), 1257 khash/s (yay!!!)
[2014-08-02 18:18:14] thread 14: 71655 hashes, 39.43 khash/s
[2014-08-02 18:18:14] accepted: 141/172 (81.98%), 1257 khash/s (yay!!!)
[2014-08-02 18:18:39] thread 27: 1042917 hashes, 39.23 khash/s
[2014-08-02 18:18:39] accepted: 141/173 (81.50%), 1257 khash/s (booooo)
[2014-08-02 18:18:45] thread 16: 1294598 hashes, 39.30 khash/s
[2014-08-02 18:18:45] accepted: 141/174 (81.03%), 1257 khash/s (booooo)
[2014-08-02 18:18:46] thread 14: 1276110 hashes, 39.38 khash/s
[2014-08-02 18:18:46] accepted: 141/175 (80.57%), 1257 khash/s (booooo)



This looks like a problem on our side indeed, we are investigating. It will not require updating minerd when fixed.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: mmmaybe on August 02, 2014, 06:48:10 PM
1gh pool almost boo, why?


It's not first minutes

Code:
[2014-08-02 18:18:12] accepted: 139/170 (81.76%), 1257 khash/s (yay!!!)
[2014-08-02 18:18:14] thread 30: 60522 hashes, 39.43 khash/s
[2014-08-02 18:18:14] accepted: 140/171 (81.87%), 1257 khash/s (yay!!!)
[2014-08-02 18:18:14] thread 14: 71655 hashes, 39.43 khash/s
[2014-08-02 18:18:14] accepted: 141/172 (81.98%), 1257 khash/s (yay!!!)
[2014-08-02 18:18:39] thread 27: 1042917 hashes, 39.23 khash/s
[2014-08-02 18:18:39] accepted: 141/173 (81.50%), 1257 khash/s (booooo)
[2014-08-02 18:18:45] thread 16: 1294598 hashes, 39.30 khash/s
[2014-08-02 18:18:45] accepted: 141/174 (81.03%), 1257 khash/s (booooo)
[2014-08-02 18:18:46] thread 14: 1276110 hashes, 39.38 khash/s
[2014-08-02 18:18:46] accepted: 141/175 (80.57%), 1257 khash/s (booooo)



This looks like a problem on our side indeed, we are investigating. It will not require updating minerd when fixed.


Thanks for the pool :)

Are you going to release a GPU miner too?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: reorder on August 02, 2014, 06:55:48 PM
1gh pool almost boo, why?


It's not first minutes

Code:
[2014-08-02 18:18:12] accepted: 139/170 (81.76%), 1257 khash/s (yay!!!)
[2014-08-02 18:18:14] thread 30: 60522 hashes, 39.43 khash/s
[2014-08-02 18:18:14] accepted: 140/171 (81.87%), 1257 khash/s (yay!!!)
[2014-08-02 18:18:14] thread 14: 71655 hashes, 39.43 khash/s
[2014-08-02 18:18:14] accepted: 141/172 (81.98%), 1257 khash/s (yay!!!)
[2014-08-02 18:18:39] thread 27: 1042917 hashes, 39.23 khash/s
[2014-08-02 18:18:39] accepted: 141/173 (81.50%), 1257 khash/s (booooo)
[2014-08-02 18:18:45] thread 16: 1294598 hashes, 39.30 khash/s
[2014-08-02 18:18:45] accepted: 141/174 (81.03%), 1257 khash/s (booooo)
[2014-08-02 18:18:46] thread 14: 1276110 hashes, 39.38 khash/s
[2014-08-02 18:18:46] accepted: 141/175 (80.57%), 1257 khash/s (booooo)



This looks like a problem on our side indeed, we are investigating. It will not require updating minerd when fixed.


Thanks for the pool :)

Are you going to release a GPU miner too?
Eventually. It is not even started yet.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: mmmaybe on August 02, 2014, 07:15:07 PM


Eventually. It is not even started yet.

Great, looking forward to it  :)


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Shunak on August 02, 2014, 07:18:59 PM
I dont find blocks... at firts, this coin was a fail, anything works fine...


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: truckythin on August 02, 2014, 07:32:00 PM
I dont find blocks... at firts, this coin was a fail, anything works fine...

you're failed, not the coin. Loosers always complaining, jeiling all the time.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: dunchy on August 02, 2014, 09:16:31 PM
This shit is going down the drain as soon as someone forks it and make a fair release with gpu miner at very launch. This is DRK all over again..Price after only  4 days passed is just ridiculous. Anyone still dumb enough to buy will just be a bagholder.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: smooth on August 02, 2014, 09:25:11 PM
This shit is going down the drain as soon as someone forks it and make a fair release with gpu miner at very launch. This is DRK all over again..Price after only  4 days passed is just ridiculous. Anyone still dumb enough to buy will just be a bagholder.

Just fork it and use a different PoW.

If you want people to be able to mine at all on CPUs while also having GPU miners, use Cryptonight (from Monero), otherwise just use whateever X-blah variant is popular now or even Scrypt or SHA. If the mini-blockchain is the thing that makes this valuable then there is no legitimate reason to concoct a brand new PoW.

I'd also suggest the slow-start reward thing I mentioned several pages back. Ramp up the rewards over the first week or two so whatever initial launch issues there might be (bad builds, not enough seeds, etc.) get fixed before the full reward kick in.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: dunchy on August 02, 2014, 09:28:41 PM
This shit is going down the drain as soon as someone forks it and make a fair release with gpu miner at very launch. This is DRK all over again..Price after only  4 days passed is just ridiculous. Anyone still dumb enough to buy will just be a bagholder.

Just fork it and use a different PoW.

If you want people to be able to mine at all on CPUs while also having GPU miners, use Cryptonight (from Monero), otherwise just use whateever X-blah variant is popular now or even Scrypt or SHA. If the mini-blockchain is the thing that makes this valuable then there is no legitimate reason to concoct a brand new PoW.

I'd also suggest the slow-start reward thing I mentioned several pages back. Ramp up the rewards over the first week or two so whatever initial launch issues there might be (bad builds, not enough seeds, etc.) get fixed before the full reward kick in.

That's the way to do it! Looking forward for Cryptonite's monero !  8)


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: djslick on August 02, 2014, 09:56:54 PM
well, I decided to give this coin a shot, found out there's no pools, boo, so i set up a wallet to solo mine on 4 different i7 computers, been almost 24 hours now and one of them did find one block, so i guess that's good? hurray? can't really see how fast it's mining in the wallet, used to seeing my hashrate and accepts flying by on the GPUs i mine with. all i can say is that in task manager the wallet's cpu performance is at %90+ so it seems to be working.

my concern is the price, it seems incredibly inflated. there's over 300,000 new coins meing mined a day, so in 10 days this will have as much coins as cloakcoin for example (of which the price seems appropriately compared to) but after that it's just going to get diluded. in 20 days it will be worth half as much. to me this seems unsustainable.

i've never heard of a coin with 1.84 billion coins that's been worth 8000 satoshis. that on it's own is just very impressive, but I gotta say, as an investor, i'd be looking to short this right now, no way this is a sustainable price unless you want to valuate this being worth as much as 100x doge right out of the gate. 10x maybe i'd believe, but not 100. this is silly.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: catia on August 02, 2014, 09:59:29 PM
I'm rather a fan of the PoW, seeing as how i wrote it and all. I think nobody has really sat down to think about how hard that "silly multiplication" is for GPU's and ASIC, and there is no evidence that a GPU miner has been created. I'm working on one in spare time to prove how much it will suck. I mean it will work, but won't be massively faster than CPU. Especially if someone sits down to optimize CPU for AVX. The ultimate combination is probably GPU for hashing and CPU for multiply. Might get somewhere doing that but it's a whole new kind of rig to have that kind of balance.

Lemme give you some numbers:

750ti = 160 32x32 bit multipliers @ 1gz = 160B 32bit per second
4770k = 16 64x64 bit multiplication per clock @ 3.6ghz = 57.6B 64bit muls ~= 330.4B 32bit per second

Theres no fighting that. It is raw ALU power.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: smooth on August 02, 2014, 10:01:57 PM
I'm rather a fan of the PoW, seeing as how i wrote it and all. I think nobody has really sat down to think about how hard that "silly multiplication"

Have you actually profiled it? I have, and most of the time is currently being spent in the hash functions, not the multiply. Granted that is CPU not GPU, but I'm skeptical that multiply will be a major bottleneck. Someone may prove me wrong, we'll see.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: onliner on August 02, 2014, 10:13:53 PM
Welcome to ...
★★★ CRYPTONITE 1GH (http://xcn.1gh.com/) POOL ★★★

--> xcn.1gh.com (http://xcn.1gh.com/) <--


Any nodes?
My wallet cant sync (


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: reorder on August 02, 2014, 10:14:39 PM
I'm rather a fan of the PoW, seeing as how i wrote it and all. I think nobody has really sat down to think about how hard that "silly multiplication"

Have you actually profiled it? I have, and most of the time is currently being spent in the hash functions, not the multiply. Granted that is CPU not GPU, but I'm skeptical that multiply will be a major bottleneck. Someone may prove me wrong, we'll see.

AMD GCN, for instance, performs any VALU operation in 4 clocks. mul_hi and mul_lo are two disctinct operations though, so it takes 8 clock to multiply two 32-bit ints in all running threads. An addition or bitwise operations take 4. Multiplication is obviously not the bottleneck in this design.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: reorder on August 02, 2014, 10:20:45 PM
Welcome to ...
★★★ CRYPTONITE 1GH (http://xcn.1gh.com/) POOL ★★★

--> xcn.1gh.com (http://xcn.1gh.com/) <--


Any nodes?
My wallet cant sync (
Seeding works pretty well, actually. Here are a few running now, just in case: 216.51.224.242, 210.64.51.11, 58.220.3.208, 71.8.128.127


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Burninj on August 02, 2014, 10:23:44 PM
Do we have an emission curve?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: catia on August 02, 2014, 10:26:31 PM
I'm rather a fan of the PoW, seeing as how i wrote it and all. I think nobody has really sat down to think about how hard that "silly multiplication"

Have you actually profiled it? I have, and most of the time is currently being spent in the hash functions, not the multiply. Granted that is CPU not GPU, but I'm skeptical that multiply will be a major bottleneck. Someone may prove me wrong, we'll see.


On CPU multiplication is highly optimized, for GPU even the oh so hard to do methods will have big time problems. I'm willing to believe that most of time is spent in hashes on CPU, but that can change if somebody optimizes the difficult hash functions, and is only true because the CPU is so efficient at multiplication.  Like I said I think doing the hashes on GPU and multiplying it on CPU will turn out to be the setup. How much that buys you I don't know. Maybe you triple performance of a 4770k by adding a 750ti? Whatever it is won't be any sempron with 1x pcie. Maybe a 750ti goes same speed as 4770k by itself. These are all possibilities that don't seem highly advantageous to me.  Still going to get mopped up by a dual xeon on EC2 without the capital costs.

Pretty sure nobody has it, although Wolf has been quiet for the past day. I'm working on it.

AMD GCN, for instance, performs any VALU operation in 4 clocks. mul_hi and mul_lo are two disctinct operations though, so it takes 8 clock to multiply two 32-bit ints in all running threads. An addition or bitwise operations take 4. Multiplication is obviously not the bottleneck in this design.

This is true but it depends on what you think of as threads. thing is a barrel processor and a "clock" really takes as many cycles as it takes to get through the barrel. Really you have to figure instruction issuance rates which is the SIMD width * number of cores * clock rate. The number of resident threads in the barrel does not increase issuance, only the probability and instruction is able to issue on every clock.

Also GCN has only 24bit multiplier and there are some extra instruction for combining even 32bit multiplies into 64. You need 4 mul + some adds. And then you have mul_hi mul_lo. So it's a whole mess of instructions. Not to mention amount of memory required. Probably to big for lmem so you have lots of load/store traffic going on.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: smooth on August 02, 2014, 10:32:59 PM
most of time is spent in hashes on CPU, but that can change if somebody optimizes the difficult hash functions, and is only true because the

The hash implementations looked reasonably decent to me. Perhaps that is not the case, I haven't looked carefully, but it is at least trying to be fast. See Tuning at http://www.saphir2.com/sphlib/

There might be some advantage on the 512 hashes to dump the upper bits of output since I think they are not used. I'm not sure how far back into the hash algorithm this is effective, but my guess is not that far.







Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: mmmaybe on August 02, 2014, 10:35:59 PM
I'm still getting many rejects on http://xcn.1gh.com, accept rate is pending between 72-85% on 5 different boxes.

Any ideas, reorder? Anything miners can do?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: catia on August 02, 2014, 10:39:22 PM
most of time is spent in hashes on CPU, but that can change if somebody optimizes the difficult hash functions, and is only true because the

The hash implementations looked reasonably decent to me. Perhaps that is not the case, I haven't looked carefully, but it is at least trying to be fast. See Tuning at http://www.saphir2.com/sphlib/

There might be some advantage on the 512 hashes to dump the upper bits of output since I think they are not used. I'm not sure how far back into the hash algorithm this is effective, but my guess is not that far.


Reorder is working on something with midstate on 1GH. Can be improved further I believe. Can also prepad the hashes. Bunch of things can be done. sph is not bad just doing things that don't need to be done repeatedly.

All bits of the hashes are used. The product is some nearly 3000 bit number which is hashed into sha256


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: reorder on August 02, 2014, 10:51:34 PM
Cpuminer on xcn.1gh.com updated now, 40%+ speedup.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: smooth on August 02, 2014, 10:53:07 PM
most of time is spent in hashes on CPU, but that can change if somebody optimizes the difficult hash functions, and is only true because the

The hash implementations looked reasonably decent to me. Perhaps that is not the case, I haven't looked carefully, but it is at least trying to be fast. See Tuning at http://www.saphir2.com/sphlib/

There might be some advantage on the 512 hashes to dump the upper bits of output since I think they are not used. I'm not sure how far back into the hash algorithm this is effective, but my guess is not that far.


Reorder is working on something with midstate on 1GH. Can be improved further I believe. Can also prepad the hashes. Bunch of things can be done. sph is not bad just doing things that don't need to be done repeatedly.

All bits of the hashes are used. The product is some nearly 3000 bit number which is hashed into sha256

Okay I agree midstate will have some benefit here. I don't know how much. It is a long way to go before the multiply becomes a bottleneck.

Thank you for the correction on the multiply output being fully used. That does help.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: chesthing on August 02, 2014, 11:01:06 PM
well, I decided to give this coin a shot, found out there's no pools, boo, so i set up a wallet to solo mine on 4 different i7 computers, been almost 24 hours now and one of them did find one block, so i guess that's good? hurray? can't really see how fast it's mining in the wallet, used to seeing my hashrate and accepts flying by on the GPUs i mine with. all i can say is that in task manager the wallet's cpu performance is at %90+ so it seems to be working.

my concern is the price, it seems incredibly inflated. there's over 300,000 new coins meing mined a day, so in 10 days this will have as much coins as cloakcoin for example (of which the price seems appropriately compared to) but after that it's just going to get diluded. in 20 days it will be worth half as much. to me this seems unsustainable.

i've never heard of a coin with 1.84 billion coins that's been worth 8000 satoshis. that on it's own is just very impressive, but I gotta say, as an investor, i'd be looking to short this right now, no way this is a sustainable price unless you want to valuate this being worth as much as 100x doge right out of the gate. 10x maybe i'd believe, but not 100. this is silly.

I agree, this coin isn't a speculator's coin. Not sure why he chose this structure.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: AizenSou on August 02, 2014, 11:20:06 PM
Cpuminer on xcn.1gh.com updated now, 40%+ speedup.

reorder i got a lot of "Stratum requested work restart". Some miners can't even send jobs after 10 min. Any fix? Thanks.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: reorder on August 02, 2014, 11:22:46 PM
Cpuminer on xcn.1gh.com updated now, 40%+ speedup.

reorder i got a lot of "Stratum requested work restart". Some miners can't even send jobs after 10 min. Any fix? Thanks.
If you run several workers, please try using different wallet addresses to get a lower share difficulty for each. Cryptonite has important block bits updated with every transaction appearing on the network so we have to update miners tasks frequently too.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: earnabit on August 02, 2014, 11:27:18 PM
New Mining Pool  1% Fees!

http://pool.minichain.info pays out once a day proportional to the number of shares (share difficulty = 512)
Also check out the blockexplorer at http://minichain.info It might be down sporadically over the next few days if I'm working on it more

If I get enough interest, I'll release the source code for both


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: djm34 on August 02, 2014, 11:36:46 PM
I live for a day when developers will actualy launch a coin which is as promised in announcement. So far, the only non-instamined coin out there is also the first one - Bitcoin.
Any other coin was instamined and XCN is not exception. Developers who can implement killer features in their coin surely know what starting difficulty should they go with to
really prevent instamine but, as it can be seen again, that is actualy not in their interest. Nor it is in their interest to provide optimized CPU / GPU miners and 100% working wallet
at the very start of mining.

"The first couple of hours were bit of a bumpy ride, the first Windows binaries released were buggy and caused a bunch of mini-forks to break out, preventing Windows users
from participating in the network until we released a fix."

Pathetic scumbags.

are you joking ? How many people were running on bitcoin at start... It is certainly the coin which has been the most intamined

Listen retarded noob, you need to learn how to read blockchain explorer data first in order for you and me to have any meaningful debate on the matter. Until then just STFU.
Sorry old moron who can't take a joke, I don't listen to your kind in general but your comment is just pathetic


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: smooth on August 02, 2014, 11:42:48 PM
are you joking ? How many people were running on bitcoin at start... It is certainly the coin which has been the most intamined

Instamined can mean a lot of things to a lot of people but I tend to view it as having an unusual rate total coins mined at the beginning (usually due to bad difficulty adjustment algorithms).

If that happened with bitcoin it would have been most severe in the first two weeks  (before the first adjustment). If we look at block 1, that is January 9, 2009. Block 2016 is January 27, which is 18 days later, or somewhat slower than the 14 day target. Block 4032 was February 12, which is right on target.

This is not instamined, it is just lack of interest to mine. Which is to say that nobody thought the damn thing would be worth anything (you can also see this if you view the generally negative reaction on the cryptography mailing list). They were wrong in hindsight, but they had every opportunity to mine if they wanted to.

There was no instamine or premine on bitcoin, just misjudgment by early miners (and more importantly potential miners) as to its value.




Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: blaaaaacksuit on August 02, 2014, 11:50:14 PM
The coin emission here is probably going to crush the coins value for quite a while, like XMR.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: AizenSou on August 02, 2014, 11:55:10 PM
New Mining Pool  1% Fees!

http://pool.minichain.info pays out once a day proportional to the number of shares (share difficulty = 512)
Also check out the blockexplorer at http://minichain.info It might be down sporadically over the next few days if I'm working on it more

If I get enough interest, I'll release the source code for both

That's nice. But could you change the payout to every hour or at least 3, 4hours. Once per day just taking too long for every miners.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: smooth on August 02, 2014, 11:59:34 PM
The coin emission here is probably going to crush the coins value for quite a while, like XMR.

It is a lot worse than XMR in that respect.

I think this coin is profoundly overvalued at current prices even if you fully ignore the launch/PoW issues and even if you fully believe in the unique value proposition, both of which I find questionable.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: earnabit on August 03, 2014, 12:13:41 AM
New Mining Pool  1% Fees!

http://pool.minichain.info pays out once a day proportional to the number of shares (share difficulty = 512)
Also check out the blockexplorer at http://minichain.info It might be down sporadically over the next few days if I'm working on it more

If I get enough interest, I'll release the source code for both

That's nice. But could you change the payout to every hour or at least 3, 4hours. Once per day just taking too long for every miners.

I'll change it to 4 hours


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: smooth on August 03, 2014, 12:15:19 AM
The coin emission here is probably going to crush the coins value for quite a while, like XMR.

It is a lot worse than XMR in that respect.

I think this coin is profoundly overvalued at current prices even if you fully ignore the launch/PoW issues and even if you fully believe in the unique value proposition, both of which I find questionable.

Cryptonite should not be compared with Monero since Bytecoin was the first ever cryptonote coin and Cryptonite is a whole different concept. Launch is over now, miners are mining, traders are trading. What can you do about it?

If you think the launch is bad enough and the developer refuses to relaunch it then you fork it. That is what happens in open source when the developer loses the confidence of the community. I don't know whether that is the case here but it was exactly the case for Bytecoin/Monero.

Quote
In the end, the market decides how much XCN should be worth.

Yup, I'm betting much lower before (possibly) much higher. And by which I mean I am literally betting that.



Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: mmmaybe on August 03, 2014, 12:19:27 AM
Cpuminer on xcn.1gh.com updated now, 40%+ speedup.

Thanks  :) I think I have less booo's too now


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: cubydu on August 03, 2014, 12:33:42 AM
coinmarketcap.com added XCN


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: djslick on August 03, 2014, 12:34:42 AM
okay so i'm trying out http://xcn.1gh.com/ with the CPU miner D program

seem to be getting a lot of rejects, is there a list of arguments i can toy with? never done cpu mining before


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: dga on August 03, 2014, 01:15:07 AM
I'm rather a fan of the PoW, seeing as how i wrote it and all. I think nobody has really sat down to think about how hard that "silly multiplication" is for GPU's and ASIC, and there is no evidence that a GPU miner has been created. I'm working on one in spare time to prove how much it will suck. I mean it will work, but won't be massively faster than CPU. Especially if someone sits down to optimize CPU for AVX. The ultimate combination is probably GPU for hashing and CPU for multiply. Might get somewhere doing that but it's a whole new kind of rig to have that kind of balance.

Lemme give you some numbers:

750ti = 160 32x32 bit multipliers @ 1gz = 160B 32bit per second
4770k = 16 64x64 bit multiplication per clock @ 3.6ghz = 57.6B 64bit muls ~= 330.4B 32bit per second

Theres no fighting that. It is raw ALU power.

You're underestimating the fraction of time spent in the hashes vs the multiply.  Less than 12% of the current execution time is in gmp bignum functions with your current code, with 88% in hashing (22% of that in one hash function -- easy target for optimization, which I'm sure wolf or someone else has already done).  The one saving grace there is that gmp is avx2 optimized on my platform already, and none of your hashes are yet.  But that leaves things at still < 30% of time in bignum once everything's on an equal optimization footing.  And it's likely that there's some low-hanging optimization possible, given that 6.7% of the time is spent in __gmpz_export and that there's no effort taken to avoid unnecessary allocation and deallocation of the mpzs.  Hint:  there are faster ways to get the data out of gmp if you don't care about portability.

Taking that all together, I'd guess that at most 15-20% of the eventual optimized runtime will be in the multiplication.  The GPUs will win.  You've created a *great* target for Claymore, though, with his pre-built library of bignum routines from writing the XPM miner. :)

(And to those reading this, no, I don't have an optimized miner - I ran it through a profiler to see what it was, but decided I was bored of miner tweaking this week.)

((p.p.s - no, GPU for hashing and CPU for multiply would be horrible.  You'll just saturate your PCIe bandwidth.))



Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: wzsaou on August 03, 2014, 01:45:27 AM
New Mining Pool  1% Fees!

http://pool.minichain.info pays out once a day proportional to the number of shares (share difficulty = 512)
Also check out the blockexplorer at http://minichain.info It might be down sporadically over the next few days if I'm working on it more

If I get enough interest, I'll release the source code for both

That's nice. But could you change the payout to every hour or at least 3, 4hours. Once per day just taking too long for every miners.

I'll change it to 4 hours

The use of Windows Miner, CPU why not working at full speed?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: catia on August 03, 2014, 02:01:59 AM
I'm rather a fan of the PoW, seeing as how i wrote it and all. I think nobody has really sat down to think about how hard that "silly multiplication" is for GPU's and ASIC, and there is no evidence that a GPU miner has been created. I'm working on one in spare time to prove how much it will suck. I mean it will work, but won't be massively faster than CPU. Especially if someone sits down to optimize CPU for AVX. The ultimate combination is probably GPU for hashing and CPU for multiply. Might get somewhere doing that but it's a whole new kind of rig to have that kind of balance.

Lemme give you some numbers:

750ti = 160 32x32 bit multipliers @ 1gz = 160B 32bit per second
4770k = 16 64x64 bit multiplication per clock @ 3.6ghz = 57.6B 64bit muls ~= 330.4B 32bit per second

Theres no fighting that. It is raw ALU power.

You're underestimating the fraction of time spent in the hashes vs the multiply.  Less than 12% of the current execution time is in gmp bignum functions with your current code, with 88% in hashing (22% of that in one hash function -- easy target for optimization, which I'm sure wolf or someone else has already done).  The one saving grace there is that gmp is avx2 optimized on my platform already, and none of your hashes are yet.  But that leaves things at still < 30% of time in bignum once everything's on an equal optimization footing.  And it's likely that there's some low-hanging optimization possible, given that 6.7% of the time is spent in __gmpz_export and that there's no effort taken to avoid unnecessary allocation and deallocation of the mpzs.  Hint:  there are faster ways to get the data out of gmp if you don't care about portability.

Taking that all together, I'd guess that at most 15-20% of the eventual optimized runtime will be in the multiplication.  The GPUs will win.  You've created a *great* target for Claymore, though, with his pre-built library of bignum routines from writing the XPM miner. :)

(And to those reading this, no, I don't have an optimized miner - I ran it through a profiler to see what it was, but decided I was bored of miner tweaking this week.)

((p.p.s - no, GPU for hashing and CPU for multiply would be horrible.  You'll just saturate your PCIe bandwidth.))



I don't disagree with any of this in principle. There is just no thorough analysis of exactly how it will end up on GPU. Sure maybe multiplication is 20% on CPU but that means what 60-80% on GPU? we know it will slow down there and a lot of it depends on how things are implemented. XPM has lamo big integer, the things almost always can be fit in registers. These are too large. And i think 2048bit * 32*256 is way too large for local memory. So where CPU is doing some fast 64bit multiplies in registers and has that nice data cache, GPU is executing handful of operations and having to hit global memory to do the same work. Implementing on GPU is quite difficult if you do it the GMP way which is karatsuba i believe.

Keep in mind X11 is not so much faster on GPU. Maybe 3x. Throw a wrench into the works that takes 60% of time and I think that metric will suffer. I can't guarantee it. Maybe not so much, maybe a little. Not even sure it matters. It's just a PoW. People will work it with whatever they have.





Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: earnabit on August 03, 2014, 02:19:12 AM
New Mining Pool  1% Fees!

http://pool.minichain.info pays out once a day proportional to the number of shares (share difficulty = 512)
Also check out the blockexplorer at http://minichain.info It might be down sporadically over the next few days if I'm working on it more

If I get enough interest, I'll release the source code for both

That's nice. But could you change the payout to every hour or at least 3, 4hours. Once per day just taking too long for every miners.

I'll change it to 4 hours

The use of Windows Miner, CPU why not working at full speed?

Make sure you use --threads 16 or set it to whatever gives you the best result.  Generally, you want to set the threads to be the number of CPU's you have


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: djslick on August 03, 2014, 02:20:23 AM
hey i just saw this:

https://twitter.com/CoinJesus/status/495755688006938624 (https://twitter.com/CoinJesus/status/495755688006938624)

i just wish the price was lower, i'd grab some


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: dga on August 03, 2014, 02:28:36 AM

I don't disagree with any of this in principle. There is just no thorough analysis of exactly how it will end up on GPU. Sure maybe multiplication is 20% on CPU but that means what 60-80% on GPU? we know it will slow down there and a lot of it depends on how things are implemented. XPM has lamo big integer, the things almost always can be fit in registers. These are too large. And i think 2048bit * 32*256 is way too large for local memory. So where CPU is doing some fast 64bit multiplies in registers and has that nice data cache, GPU is executing handful of operations and having to hit global memory to do the same work. Implementing on GPU is quite difficult if you do it the GMP way which is karatsuba i believe.

Keep in mind X11 is not so much faster on GPU. Maybe 3x. Throw a wrench into the works that takes 60% of time and I think that metric will suffer. I can't guarantee it. Maybe not so much, maybe a little. Not even sure it matters. It's just a PoW. People will work it with whatever they have.


X11 nvidia is 6x cpu, just to keep the record straight, though it's always possible that some of C&C's groestl optimizations could be applied to avx2 as well.  That's not the magic of nvidia, it's good programming and optimization.

There's no way a good implementation of this would hit global in a non-streaming way -- such a design would be silly and doing it wrong.  Yes, it might be optimal to stream all of the result hashes to memory, read them back in a different kernel with fewer threads per block, do the 2048 bit math, and then stuff them back into global for the final sha256, but two full streams of the hashes is well within the bandwidth capacity of the GPU for the speed of hashing and math we're talking about.

You could imagine some fun ways of parallelizing it, given that the multiplication is commutative - that sha256 and haval would combine nicely in one big parallel multiply across nonces to produce a 512 bit next operand.  Fun thought experiment. :-)

GPU would likely just use schoolbook.  GMP's multiplication algorithm used depends a little on the bit sizes involved, but it's probably Toom-Cook at these sizes.  (It's a little tricky because you know that one of the operands is always <= 512 bits, and I don't know how gmp optimizes that case.)  Karatsuba and TC are tricky, but they're not magic, just code.

(I have no philosophical or financial horse in this race -- I think the excessive pursuit of CPU-only coins is silly, and I do agree with you that the large bit size is a deterrent;  I haven't seen, e.g., any public gpu miners for riecoin, and the bit size is one of the big reasons.  But if the coin goes moonward, it'll be done, and I think it'll put the CPUs out to pasture.)


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: wzsaou on August 03, 2014, 02:48:53 AM
New Mining Pool  1% Fees!

http://pool.minichain.info pays out once a day proportional to the number of shares (share difficulty = 512)
Also check out the blockexplorer at http://minichain.info It might be down sporadically over the next few days if I'm working on it more

If I get enough interest, I'll release the source code for both

That's nice. But could you change the payout to every hour or at least 3, 4hours. Once per day just taking too long for every miners.

I'll change it to 4 hours

The use of Windows Miner, CPU why not working at full speed?

Make sure you use --threads 16 or set it to whatever gives you the best result.  Generally, you want to set the threads to be the number of CPU's you have

Set the --threads MAX, but CPU use rate was only 10%


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: iCEBREAKER on August 03, 2014, 03:08:25 AM
coinmarketcap.com added XCN

http://i.imgur.com/kxSNPuU.jpg

Too soon?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: drawingthesun on August 03, 2014, 03:11:14 AM
How many coins are being mined per day? And this amount will be half in ten years correct?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: smooth on August 03, 2014, 03:12:24 AM
hey i just saw this:

https://twitter.com/CoinJesus/status/495755688006938624 (https://twitter.com/CoinJesus/status/495755688006938624)

i just wish the price was lower, i'd grab some

Just be patient. It will be.



Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: smooth on August 03, 2014, 03:13:14 AM
How many coins are being mined per day? And this amount will be half in ten years correct?

1440 blocks per day, about 243 coins per block, and yes 10 years.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: TooDumbForBitcoin on August 03, 2014, 03:36:37 AM

Please.  No hoax photographs.  Thank you.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: watuba on August 03, 2014, 04:38:23 AM
Don't have xubuntu, but on ubuntu:

mkdir ~/.cryptonite

cat > ~/.cryptonite/cryptonite.conf << EOF
#----
rpcuser=rpcuser
rpcpassword=rpcpw
EOF

./cryptonite-qt


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: watuba on August 03, 2014, 05:01:46 AM
Do you have all of this stuff?

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:bitcoin/bitcoin
sudo apt-get update

sudo apt-get install libboost-all-dev libdb4.8-dev libdb4.8++-dev libminiupnpc-dev libqt4-dev libprotobuf-dev protobuf-compiler libgmp-dev
apt-get install git ntp make g++ gcc autoconf cpp ngrep iftop sysstat


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: cubex on August 03, 2014, 05:56:30 AM
Cpuminer on xcn.1gh.com updated now, 40%+ speedup.

Tried to compile the updated cpuminer. I encounter error:

Making all in m7
make[2]: Entering directory `/root/cpuminer-cryptonite/m7'
make[2]: *** No rule to make target `haval.cpp', needed by `haval.o'.  Stop.
make[2]: Leaving directory `/root/cpuminer-cryptonite/m7'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/cpuminer-cryptonite'
make: *** [all] Error 2


What is the fix?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: wenjiannin on August 03, 2014, 06:06:47 AM
is solo>xcn.pool.com  by 120 E3V3 erevy 440K/H????????


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: marada on August 03, 2014, 07:11:01 AM
Cpuminer on xcn.1gh.com updated now, 40%+ speedup.

Tried to compile the updated cpuminer. I encounter error:

Making all in m7
make[2]: Entering directory `/root/cpuminer-cryptonite/m7'
make[2]: *** No rule to make target `haval.cpp', needed by `haval.o'.  Stop.
make[2]: Leaving directory `/root/cpuminer-cryptonite/m7'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/cpuminer-cryptonite'
make: *** [all] Error 2


What is the fix?

A dependency missing?
What do you get after ./autogen.sh and what after ./configure?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: catia on August 03, 2014, 09:01:14 AM
Please update to 14080303. Semi critical. Fixes bug recently introduced that prevents peers from downloading sections of the compressed trie we call slices. In the near future we will be transferring pruned chains only, so we need nodes online with capability to serve for the transition. If your node is not externally reachable then don't worry about it.



Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Passion_ltc on August 03, 2014, 09:16:39 AM
coinmarketcap.com added XCN

Yep, because of me. I wrote them, the same as I did to Bittrex and Poloniex (and you should, too!).

https://twitter.com/NxtBerzerk/status/494204401087946752

If you want to donate: CMQr8gx5uL3G3zCQ2U2Z7PADF2vY5eSuDA


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: marada on August 03, 2014, 09:36:53 AM
Please update to 14080303. Semi critical. Fixes bug recently introduced that prevents peers from downloading sections of the compressed trie we call slices. In the near future we will be transferring pruned chains only, so we need nodes online with capability to serve for the transition. If your node is not externally reachable then don't worry about it.

Are sources updated?

You should consider cutting down the total coin supply due to inflation issues that might arise in the future.

18-20 million.


I disagree. There are plenty lot of coins with reduced market cap, where the most of them are emitted in first short period. What do we get from that? Poor hashrates and poor interest after that period. If you think crappy hashrates will protect your millions worth coins you are wrong... I would leave things like they are. Long term mining is a good concept. It allows the market to grow and can make the coin really valuable.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: catia on August 03, 2014, 09:51:48 AM
Please update to 14080303. Semi critical. Fixes bug recently introduced that prevents peers from downloading sections of the compressed trie we call slices. In the near future we will be transferring pruned chains only, so we need nodes online with capability to serve for the transition. If your node is not externally reachable then don't worry about it.

Are sources updated?


Yes indeed


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: cubex on August 03, 2014, 10:04:51 AM
Cpuminer on xcn.1gh.com updated now, 40%+ speedup.

Tried to compile the updated cpuminer. I encounter error:

Making all in m7
make[2]: Entering directory `/root/cpuminer-cryptonite/m7'
make[2]: *** No rule to make target `haval.cpp', needed by `haval.o'.  Stop.
make[2]: Leaving directory `/root/cpuminer-cryptonite/m7'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/cpuminer-cryptonite'
make: *** [all] Error 2


What is the fix?

A dependency missing?
What do you get after ./autogen.sh and what after ./configure?

I fixed the problem by removing the whole folder, download and recompile.  Somehow git update does not work.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: cubex on August 03, 2014, 10:19:21 AM
Cpuminer on xcn.1gh.com updated now, 40%+ speedup.

reorder i got a lot of "Stratum requested work restart". Some miners can't even send jobs after 10 min. Any fix? Thanks.
If you run several workers, please try using different wallet addresses to get a lower share difficulty for each. Cryptonite has important block bits updated with every transaction appearing on the network so we have to update miners tasks frequently too.

I am having similar problem.  I run several workers each with a different wallet addr.  The hash rates display on your website will go down a lot after about an hour even though the hash rate displayed on the miner remains the same.  Is there a leak somewhere?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: tamdc on August 03, 2014, 11:09:25 AM
Cpuminer on xcn.1gh.com updated now, 40%+ speedup.

reorder i got a lot of "Stratum requested work restart". Some miners can't even send jobs after 10 min. Any fix? Thanks.
If you run several workers, please try using different wallet addresses to get a lower share difficulty for each. Cryptonite has important block bits updated with every transaction appearing on the network so we have to update miners tasks frequently too.

I am having similar problem.  I run several workers each with a different wallet addr.  The hash rates display on your website will go down a lot after about an hour even though the hash rate displayed on the miner remains the same.  Is there a leak somewhere?
Me too, only half on pool


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: djm34 on August 03, 2014, 12:04:16 PM
which version should I use for testnet ?
I tried the latest qt version, I get stuck 5 days behind.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: myagui on August 03, 2014, 12:07:35 PM
@djm34, can't you just use 1GH's pool for whatever it is that you need testing?  ;)
Dunno about which version for testnet though, think you need to ping @catia on IRC, and see if he can put up some testnet nodes for you.
Cheers,
~ Myagui


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: djm34 on August 03, 2014, 12:16:41 PM
@djm34, can't you just use 1GH's pool for whatever it is that you need testing?  ;)
Dunno about which version for testnet though, think you need to ping @catia on IRC, and see if he can put up some testnet nodes for you.
Cheers,
~ Myagui

;D whatever I am testing isn't ready to work on stratum... (such a pain in the ass this blockheader... )
 what is the IRC channel ?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: myagui on August 03, 2014, 12:21:35 PM
#cryptonite @freenode


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Hix on August 03, 2014, 12:22:40 PM
which version should I use for testnet ?
I tried the latest qt version, I get stuck 5 days behind.
Yes same problem, need node for testnet


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Jungian on August 03, 2014, 12:46:42 PM
New Mining Pool  1% Fees!

http://pool.minichain.info pays out once a day proportional to the number of shares (share difficulty = 512)
Also check out the blockexplorer at http://minichain.info It might be down sporadically over the next few days if I'm working on it more

If I get enough interest, I'll release the source code for both

I'm getting bascily 100% rejections. Any idea why?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: SRBOOTH on August 03, 2014, 01:31:41 PM
Apologies if this has been covered...having a hard time finding....

I guess I am asking for the apt-get commands to get needed dependencies to compile cryptonite-cpuminer

My linux not so good.... I have compiled many miners in linux but this one is giving me problems

Dependencies:
   libcurl         http://curl.haxx.se/libcurl/
   libgmp         https://gmplib.org/
   jansson         http://www.digip.org/jansson/

Thanks for the help


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: nzszxsl on August 03, 2014, 02:04:59 PM
when to bittrex? golden time to hit a bigger exchange now ;D


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: noodle_dam on August 03, 2014, 02:16:21 PM
I see nothing but problems here >90% posts.....


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: SRBOOTH on August 03, 2014, 02:21:28 PM
Trying to compile 1GH cryptonite-cpuminer on ubuntu getting this error after ./configure CFLAGS="-O3" CXXFLAGS="-O3"

configure: error: GNU MP not found, see https://gmplib.org/

I may have a dependencies issue..........compile many miner in linux before but having problem with this one

Any help would be appreciated, I am weak at Linux..........Thanks


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: sserge009 on August 03, 2014, 02:39:04 PM
Cpuminer on xcn.1gh.com updated now, 40%+ speedup.

reorder i got a lot of "Stratum requested work restart". Some miners can't even send jobs after 10 min. Any fix? Thanks.
If you run several workers, please try using different wallet addresses to get a lower share difficulty for each. Cryptonite has important block bits updated with every transaction appearing on the network so we have to update miners tasks frequently too.

I am having similar problem.  I run several workers each with a different wallet addr.  The hash rates display on your website will go down a lot after about an hour even though the hash rate displayed on the miner remains the same.  Is there a leak somewhere?
Me too, only half on pool

The same here.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: earnabit on August 03, 2014, 02:51:13 PM
New Mining Pool  1% Fees!

http://pool.minichain.info pays out once a day proportional to the number of shares (share difficulty = 512)
Also check out the blockexplorer at http://minichain.info It might be down sporadically over the next few days if I'm working on it more

If I get enough interest, I'll release the source code for both

I'm getting bascily 100% rejections. Any idea why?

I'm looking into it now. I think I just need to decrease the polling time. We'll see if that helps. I'm also going to make sure each miner is getting unique data to hash


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Paldover on August 03, 2014, 04:49:25 PM
For wallet sync please create "cryptonite.conf" at the usual place and add:

addnode=115.78.135.173:9773

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: ChaseT on August 03, 2014, 06:12:44 PM
miners i want to buy 0.5 btc of xcn, offers?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: catia on August 03, 2014, 06:20:16 PM
which version should I use for testnet ?
I tried the latest qt version, I get stuck 5 days behind.
Yes same problem, need node for testnet

66.45.239.67


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: maximan2008 on August 03, 2014, 06:36:01 PM
wallet can't connect to nodes. it's saying "downloading headers" but it can't.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: suchnekky on August 03, 2014, 06:37:16 PM
we need bittrex to add us :)


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Primitive on August 03, 2014, 06:39:11 PM
buying XCN in bulk from miners. please PM.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: digicoin on August 03, 2014, 06:41:05 PM
I don't know why Chinese exchanges list XCN first.  ??? But I don't like BTer or BTC38. Mintpal, Poloniex or Bittex are prefered


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: catia on August 03, 2014, 06:42:01 PM
wallet can't connect to nodes. it's saying "downloading headers" but it can't.

New builds cooking. Will be up shortly


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: earnabit on August 03, 2014, 06:46:35 PM
New Mining Pool  1% Fees!

http://pool.minichain.info pays out once a day proportional to the number of shares (share difficulty = 512)
Also check out the blockexplorer at http://minichain.info It might be down sporadically over the next few days if I'm working on it more

If I get enough interest, I'll release the source code for both

I'm getting bascily 100% rejections. Any idea why?

I'm looking into it now. I think I just need to decrease the polling time. We'll see if that helps. I'm also going to make sure each miner is getting unique data to hash

Thank you catia for helping me solve this. The old mining software was not using the server provided nonce so all windows miners were doing the same work. Windows Miners must use the new minerd-pool.exe. I updated the link on http://pool.minichain.info


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: marada on August 03, 2014, 06:54:20 PM
Trying to compile 1GH cryptonite-cpuminer on ubuntu getting this error after ./configure CFLAGS="-O3" CXXFLAGS="-O3"

configure: error: GNU MP not found, see https://gmplib.org/

I may have a dependencies issue..........compile many miner in linux before but having problem with this one

Any help would be appreciated, I am weak at Linux..........Thanks


Please try out:

Code:
sudo apt-get install libgmp-dev libcurl4-gnutls-dev libjansson-dev

You may need another package manager if your distro doesn't use apt.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: reorder on August 03, 2014, 08:02:54 PM
@djm34, can't you just use 1GH's pool for whatever it is that you need testing?  ;)
Dunno about which version for testnet though, think you need to ping @catia on IRC, and see if he can put up some testnet nodes for you.
Cheers,
~ Myagui

;D whatever I am testing isn't ready to work on stratum... (such a pain in the ass this blockheader... )
 what is the IRC channel ?
You could start with our cpuminer, just CUDA-ize scanhash function that already builds the block header.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: ChaseT on August 03, 2014, 08:09:31 PM
it's time to tweet trex


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: coa032 on August 03, 2014, 08:10:33 PM
Buying 0.4 BTC worth of XCN at 0.000065 each


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: maximan2008 on August 03, 2014, 08:14:26 PM
is new wallet ready? i'm still waiting.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: coa032 on August 03, 2014, 08:23:52 PM
How many coins have been mined so far and how many more roughly will there every +7 days?
~3 mill coins in circulation at the moment..but I am not sure about number of coins in 7 days


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: catia on August 03, 2014, 08:26:01 PM
is new wallet ready? i'm still waiting.

Try 14080315. 14080316 if you feel like reporting results. Code in 14080316 is scheduled update. Need a few testers first though.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: ocminer on August 03, 2014, 08:30:33 PM
I am still interested in python functions submitting a block to the XCN network - maybe someone figured it out and can give me some hints. I've got the hashing function - i'm just getting rejects when trying to submit a block to the network.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: maximan2008 on August 03, 2014, 08:57:32 PM
i'm already using this versiyon. win64_cryptonite-qt_14080303. i'm adding nodes manualy and with config file, but still not conneting. it's saying " downloading headers..." but stil there is not any connetion.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Kn_os on August 03, 2014, 09:10:15 PM
I see nothing but problems here >90% posts.....

New algos and new ideas always need some time to fix all problems at start, it's normal.

Invested into that idea, wish you luck with implementing.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: ChaseT on August 03, 2014, 09:13:35 PM
I see nothing but problems here >90% posts.....

New algos and new ideas always need some time to fix all problems at start, it's normal.

Invested into that idea, wish you luck with implementing.
and we haven't fuds


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: maximan2008 on August 03, 2014, 09:33:33 PM
i'm already using this versiyon. win64_cryptonite-qt_14080303. i'm adding nodes manualy and with config file, but still not conneting. it's saying " downloading headers..." but stil there is not any connetion. the nodes are broken,i think.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: catia on August 03, 2014, 09:47:12 PM
i'm already using this versiyon. win64_cryptonite-qt_14080303. i'm adding nodes manualy and with config file, but still not conneting. it's saying " downloading headers..." but stil there is not any connetion. the nodes are broken,i think.

That is not new enough version. I specifically replied to your post asking for a new version and said to use 14080315


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: catia on August 03, 2014, 09:53:19 PM
I am still interested in python functions submitting a block to the XCN network - maybe someone figured it out and can give me some hints. I've got the hashing function - i'm just getting rejects when trying to submit a block to the network.

Simple pool is able to submit blocks. Are you submitting through getwork or submitblock?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: maximan2008 on August 03, 2014, 09:54:40 PM
i'm already using this versiyon. win64_cryptonite-qt_14080303. i'm adding nodes manualy and with config file, but still not conneting. it's saying " downloading headers..." but stil there is not any connetion. the nodes are broken,i think.

That is not new enough version. I specifically replied to your post asking for a new version and said to use 14080315

where is that links. I looked into the web site, but I did not see it.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: catia on August 03, 2014, 09:56:06 PM
i'm already using this versiyon. win64_cryptonite-qt_14080303. i'm adding nodes manualy and with config file, but still not conneting. it's saying " downloading headers..." but stil there is not any connetion. the nodes are broken,i think.

That is not new enough version. I specifically replied to your post asking for a new version and said to use 14080315

where is that links. I looked into the web site, but I did not see it.

all the files are at http://gpile.it/mbc/

I don't have capability to update the website links.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: ljm81 on August 03, 2014, 11:04:52 PM

Add this node to your .conf

addnode=115.78.135.173:9773       



working for me and i only got my wallet 30mins ago


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: ljm81 on August 03, 2014, 11:08:02 PM
Thats the only node im using mind try wiping the rest


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: djm34 on August 03, 2014, 11:32:49 PM
@djm34, can't you just use 1GH's pool for whatever it is that you need testing?  ;)
Dunno about which version for testnet though, think you need to ping @catia on IRC, and see if he can put up some testnet nodes for you.
Cheers,
~ Myagui

;D whatever I am testing isn't ready to work on stratum... (such a pain in the ass this blockheader... )
 what is the IRC channel ?
You could start with our cpuminer, just CUDA-ize scanhash function that already builds the block header.
I am trying... (the code is mostly the same) but it doesn't seem to work.
I can connect, but it doesn't start mining... (is it getwork or gbt ?)


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: reorder on August 03, 2014, 11:35:13 PM
@djm34, can't you just use 1GH's pool for whatever it is that you need testing?  ;)
Dunno about which version for testnet though, think you need to ping @catia on IRC, and see if he can put up some testnet nodes for you.
Cheers,
~ Myagui

;D whatever I am testing isn't ready to work on stratum... (such a pain in the ass this blockheader... )
 what is the IRC channel ?
You could start with our cpuminer, just CUDA-ize scanhash function that already builds the block header.
I am trying... (the code is mostly the same) but it doesn't seem to work.
I can connect, but it doesn't start mining... (is it getwork or gbt ?)
It is stratum-like protocol. Our (1gh) miner works either over it with only our pool so far or over getwork with regular wallet.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: djm34 on August 04, 2014, 12:04:47 AM
@djm34, can't you just use 1GH's pool for whatever it is that you need testing?  ;)
Dunno about which version for testnet though, think you need to ping @catia on IRC, and see if he can put up some testnet nodes for you.
Cheers,
~ Myagui

;D whatever I am testing isn't ready to work on stratum... (such a pain in the ass this blockheader... )
 what is the IRC channel ?
You could start with our cpuminer, just CUDA-ize scanhash function that already builds the block header.
I am trying... (the code is mostly the same) but it doesn't seem to work.
I can connect, but it doesn't start mining... (is it getwork or gbt ?)
It is stratum-like protocol. Our (1gh) miner works either over it with only our pool so far or over getwork with regular wallet.
Apparently, I am getting stuck at the method "mining.notify", nothing happens after, scanhash is not called...


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: ajeef on August 04, 2014, 12:14:52 AM
Some problems for me.mini-blockchain only download 10000 blocks.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuJzy3QCEAA1Wbs.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuJ0Hr_CQAAQmJd.jpg:large


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Shunak on August 04, 2014, 12:16:24 AM
Why devs dont test this coin BEFORE launch?
All comments are problems...


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: reorder on August 04, 2014, 12:21:03 AM
@djm34, can't you just use 1GH's pool for whatever it is that you need testing?  ;)
Dunno about which version for testnet though, think you need to ping @catia on IRC, and see if he can put up some testnet nodes for you.
Cheers,
~ Myagui

;D whatever I am testing isn't ready to work on stratum... (such a pain in the ass this blockheader... )
 what is the IRC channel ?
You could start with our cpuminer, just CUDA-ize scanhash function that already builds the block header.
I am trying... (the code is mostly the same) but it doesn't seem to work.
I can connect, but it doesn't start mining... (is it getwork or gbt ?)
It is stratum-like protocol. Our (1gh) miner works either over it with only our pool so far or over getwork with regular wallet.
Apparently, I am getting stuck at the method "mining.notify", nothing happens after, scanhash is not called...
Even if you run an unpatched cpu version?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: djm34 on August 04, 2014, 12:29:37 AM
@djm34, can't you just use 1GH's pool for whatever it is that you need testing?  ;)
Dunno about which version for testnet though, think you need to ping @catia on IRC, and see if he can put up some testnet nodes for you.
Cheers,
~ Myagui

;D whatever I am testing isn't ready to work on stratum... (such a pain in the ass this blockheader... )
 what is the IRC channel ?
You could start with our cpuminer, just CUDA-ize scanhash function that already builds the block header.
I am trying... (the code is mostly the same) but it doesn't seem to work.
I can connect, but it doesn't start mining... (is it getwork or gbt ?)
It is stratum-like protocol. Our (1gh) miner works either over it with only our pool so far or over getwork with regular wallet.
Apparently, I am getting stuck at the method "mining.notify", nothing happens after, scanhash is not called...
Even if you run an unpatched cpu version?
by unpatched, you mean the standard cpuminer ? this one works without problem


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Alns on August 04, 2014, 12:44:13 AM
Iīm watching this coin, good concept and very innovative, but iīm concerned about inflation per day, good for miners, bad for investors.

And donīt understand about total supply.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: catia on August 04, 2014, 12:51:59 AM
Why devs dont test this coin BEFORE launch?
All comments are problems...

As has been noted several times, there was a testing thread where people were welcome to come and help weed out bugs. Some did, most did not. Also note that in about 1000 places it says, "this is experimental software". I am working 16 hour days to make sure you and every wide eyed dreamer can manage to connect without the slightest hiccup or minor difficulty that could result in having to read the OP,  the wiki, or the thread.

Of course all comments are problems, of the 14,000 machines connected to the cryptonite network, how many of those people came here to post useless information like, hey all, just wanted you to know it worked for me.

And please, stop using windows 8.1 everyone, it's a web browser. Cryptonite is not tested to run in web browsers except by people who report it doesn't work.



Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: drippx on August 04, 2014, 01:08:30 AM
1.8 billion coins? very funny joke


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: reorder on August 04, 2014, 01:10:07 AM
1.8 billion coins? very funny joke
Mined over lifetime of the Universe, not as much.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Ancep on August 04, 2014, 01:10:43 AM
Why devs dont test this coin BEFORE launch?
All comments are problems...

As has been noted several times, there was a testing thread where people were welcome to come and help weed out bugs. Some did, most did not. Also note that in about 1000 places it says, "this is experimental software". I am working 16 hour days to make sure you and every wide eyed dreamer can manage to connect without the slightest hiccup or minor difficulty that could result in having to read the OP,  the wiki, or the thread.

Of course all comments are problems, of the 14,000 machines connected to the cryptonite network, how many of those people came here to post useless information like, hey all, just wanted you to know it worked for me.

And please, stop using windows 8.1 everyone, it's a web browser. Cryptonite is not tested to run in web browsers except by people who report it doesn't work.

Just wanted you to know, it worked for me.  :)


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: hankrules on August 04, 2014, 01:32:10 AM
$DOS $XCN $UPM $ZIP under consideration @BittrexExchange


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: earnabit on August 04, 2014, 01:39:03 AM
I'm having some serious issues with the pool so everyone mine on 1gh for now. =/


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: djslick on August 04, 2014, 01:54:03 AM

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?

you've been mining blocks somewhere between every block and every 3rd block???

this is the worst distribution i've ever seen.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: wyj1888 on August 04, 2014, 01:56:05 AM

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?

you've been mining blocks somewhere between every block and every 3rd block???

this is the worst distribution i've ever seen.

DEV can tell you!!!


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: wyj1888 on August 04, 2014, 01:56:41 AM
I'm having some serious issues with the pool so everyone mine on 1gh for now. =/

whats your matter?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: othe on August 04, 2014, 02:03:26 AM

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?

you've been mining blocks somewhere between every block and every 3rd block???

this is the worst distribution i've ever seen.

DEV can tell you!!!


Learn to read, his transaction window shows a spread of 9 hours.




Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: smooth on August 04, 2014, 02:09:44 AM

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?

you've been mining blocks somewhere between every block and every 3rd block???

this is the worst distribution i've ever seen.

DEV can tell you!!!


Learn to read, his transaction window shows a spread of 9 hours.

nevertheless...

http://minichain.info/address/CNCzEBdvxzKSsGGdeqdGv17zuyWLeyAFvw

???


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: djm34 on August 04, 2014, 02:23:54 AM
errors from the wallets: (on windows 8.1)

After I open unsuccessfully the testnet wallet (even with the node posted earlier), I can reconnect the normal wallet. I get and error which force to close the wallet, I have to delete everything (wallet included) to get it to work (doesn't matter I have a lot less than ajeef)

... I start to believe the coin is kind of hopeless (seriously one new release almost everyday... it shouldn't have been released so early, and in its current state is still not ready to be released...)


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: djslick on August 04, 2014, 02:38:22 AM

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?

you've been mining blocks somewhere between every block and every 3rd block???

this is the worst distribution i've ever seen.

DEV can tell you!!!


Learn to read, his transaction window shows a spread of 9 hours.

nevertheless...

http://minichain.info/address/CNCzEBdvxzKSsGGdeqdGv17zuyWLeyAFvw

???

yep, one person has %20 of all the coins in circulation. RIIIIIIIGHT.

sorry, this has got to be one of the worst distribution methods of a coin i've ever seen. how could anyone want to support this? let alone ascribe value to it?

at first i was happy to see the mini-blockchain technology, but when coupled with this instamined garbage algorithm it has face palm written all over it. sorry person who made it, good job, but %100 pointless, congrats you killed your coin cause you wanted to make your own algo that only you and your friends could use. will be dumping the little that i have. this coin gets a big PASS.

I'll stick with cloakcoin's "oneLedger" system which is essentially the exact same concept as mini-blockchain, except i've heard of it earlier, it has more features, oh and one person doesn't own %20 of the whole supply.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: djslick on August 04, 2014, 02:52:20 AM
errors from the wallets: (on windows 8.1)

After I open unsuccessfully the testnet wallet (even with the node posted earlier), I can reconnect the normal wallet. I get and error which force to close the wallet, I have to delete everything (wallet included) to get it to work (doesn't matter I have a lot less than ajeef)

... I start to believe the coin is kind of hopeless (seriously one new release almost everyday... it shouldn't have been released so early, and in its current state is still not ready to be released...)

I vote for a re-launch with a respectable algo and a clean functional wallet.

it's only been a week, cut your losses and do it right, cause this is just a clusterfuck of awful right now, it's not going to get better.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: watuba on August 04, 2014, 03:01:26 AM

I vote for a re-launch with a respectable algo and a clean functional wallet.

it's only been a week, cut your losses and do it right, cause this is just a clusterfuck of awful right now, it's not going to get better.

Honestly, you seem really unhappy in this thread.  You should try a different thread.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: mmmaybe on August 04, 2014, 03:15:10 AM
Can we get a richlist added to the block explorer...?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: pbardak on August 04, 2014, 04:18:14 AM
Sorry if I missed this on a previous thread, Any word on GPU mining?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: truckythin on August 04, 2014, 04:29:03 AM
@Wolf` are you finish your super miner yet? pm me when you done.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: bitfreak! on August 04, 2014, 04:42:10 AM
Fresh list of peers for anyone having trouble connecting: http://pastebin.com/mVUa0N0G


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: yaks on August 04, 2014, 05:05:47 AM
My wallet is stuck at block 352 any help would be appreciated!


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Hix on August 04, 2014, 05:19:58 AM
which version should I use for testnet ?
I tried the latest qt version, I get stuck 5 days behind.
Yes same problem, need node for testnet

66.45.239.67
it didn`t help, stucked in 6 days, 1187blocks


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: catia on August 04, 2014, 06:14:06 AM
which version should I use for testnet ?
I tried the latest qt version, I get stuck 5 days behind.
Yes same problem, need node for testnet

66.45.239.67
it didn`t help, stucked in 6 days, 1187blocks

Yeah thats right. The latest incarnation of testnet is only on 1187. Nobody has mined it in 6 days so you'll see 6 days behind. If for some reason it refuses to mine because of the very old timestamp on tip, start with -solomine option and whip it into shape.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: jeffersonairplane on August 04, 2014, 06:18:27 AM
Is it worth mining XCN right now?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: iCEBREAKER on August 04, 2014, 06:21:42 AM
Is it worth mining XCN right now?

Only at scale, with botnets and/or private (GPU?) miners.

Haven't seen an per-cpu XCN vs XMR 48hr pool comparison yet.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: yaks on August 04, 2014, 06:23:25 AM
catia my wallet is stuck how can I sync the wallet? It says 2582 blocks behind, but on debug window it shows 205 blocks out of 12895, help please.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Primitive on August 04, 2014, 06:50:54 AM
Is it worth mining XCN right now?

Only at scale, with botnets and/or private (GPU?) miners.

Haven't seen an per-cpu XCN vs XMR 48hr pool comparison yet.

any idea what the sat cost is to the miners?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: wyj1888 on August 04, 2014, 06:51:51 AM
 you can use the old wallt..


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: wyj1888 on August 04, 2014, 06:52:19 AM
you can use the old wallt..

it wroks well now.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: wenjiannin on August 04, 2014, 07:34:50 AM
Fresh list of peers for anyone having trouble connecting: http://pastebin.com/mVUa0N0G
thank you ;)


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: hankrules on August 04, 2014, 08:14:26 AM
It's becoming quite clear that ajeef is going to be a very wealthy man.  ;D


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Thomas-s on August 04, 2014, 08:18:06 AM
Reduce the total amount of coins and I'll buy some.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Edraket31 on August 04, 2014, 08:19:24 AM
Reduce the total amount of coins and I'll buy some.

yeah! after this post, they will reduce....for sure  ::)


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: ChaseT on August 04, 2014, 08:25:14 AM
transactions are so fast, made my first 1 min ago.....AWESOME


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Rnbin on August 04, 2014, 08:33:08 AM
Dev could you give us an idea of how many coins are expected within the first half year, year and 2nd year ?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Thomas-s on August 04, 2014, 08:36:28 AM
Dev could you give us an idea of how many coins are expected within the first half year, year and 2nd year ?

Heard something like 70 million in a year, way too much.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: tamdc on August 04, 2014, 08:39:54 AM
Right now my hashrate on pool only display 1/3 vs my miner.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: restless on August 04, 2014, 09:06:59 AM
I\m at approx 60%... no idea why


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Stormbringer on August 04, 2014, 09:30:20 AM

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?

you've been mining blocks somewhere between every block and every 3rd block???

this is the worst distribution i've ever seen.

DEV can tell you!!!


Learn to read, his transaction window shows a spread of 9 hours.

nevertheless...

http://minichain.info/address/CNCzEBdvxzKSsGGdeqdGv17zuyWLeyAFvw

???

yep, one person has %20 of all the coins in circulation. RIIIIIIIGHT.

sorry, this has got to be one of the worst distribution methods of a coin i've ever seen. how could anyone want to support this? let alone ascribe value to it?

at first i was happy to see the mini-blockchain technology, but when coupled with this instamined garbage algorithm it has face palm written all over it. sorry person who made it, good job, but %100 pointless, congrats you killed your coin cause you wanted to make your own algo that only you and your friends could use. will be dumping the little that i have. this coin gets a big PASS.

I'll stick with cloakcoin's "oneLedger" system which is essentially the exact same concept as mini-blockchain, except i've heard of it earlier, it has more features, oh and one person doesn't own %20 of the whole supply.

Who owns this address ?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: mikenz on August 04, 2014, 09:36:55 AM
So, XCN coin limit 100x higher than XMR, XMR price 60x bigger than XCN. I guess this shit qualifies as fully pumped. right ? From now on it's basically "buy it when you need it", it's uselles as a store of value...
Yea like any other alt is a store of value. It'll take a year just to get to the level of coins bc has. Get over the total coin count guys. Nobody bitches about all the pos coins coming out everyday that get 10 million mined in 3 days.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: balthazr on August 04, 2014, 09:49:23 AM
Right now my hashrate on pool only display 1/3 vs my miner.

It takes time to vardiff coming stable, Tam.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: cubydu on August 04, 2014, 10:16:46 AM

after 20 minutes..

http://i.imgur.com/XpgyV9b.png

Code:
[2014-08-04 10:15:07] accepted: 167/179 (93.30%), 1689 khash/s (yay!!!)
[2014-08-04 10:15:08] thread 31: 385704 hashes, 52.82 khash/s
[2014-08-04 10:15:08] accepted: 168/180 (93.33%), 1689 khash/s (yay!!!)
[2014-08-04 10:15:16] thread 22: 2428844 hashes, 52.73 khash/s
[2014-08-04 10:15:17] thread 9: 909500 hashes, 52.85 khash/s
[2014-08-04 10:15:17] accepted: 169/181 (93.37%), 1689 khash/s (yay!!!)



Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Majormax on August 04, 2014, 10:56:34 AM
So, XCN coin limit 100x higher than XMR, XMR price 60x bigger than XCN. I guess this shit qualifies as fully pumped. right ? From now on it's basically "buy it when you need it", it's uselles as a store of value...
Yea like any other alt is a store of value. It'll take a year just to get to the level of coins bc has. Get over the total coin count guys. Nobody bitches about all the pos coins coming out everyday that get 10 million mined in 3 days.

At 1 year out, current price values market cap at ~$8m. Not extreme for the concept. That means 80% of those coins have still to be mined/distributed in the next 12 months : the slower steady distribution is a positive. I am a buyer.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: reorder on August 04, 2014, 10:59:06 AM

after 20 minutes..

http://i.imgur.com/XpgyV9b.png

Code:
[2014-08-04 10:15:07] accepted: 167/179 (93.30%), 1689 khash/s (yay!!!)
[2014-08-04 10:15:08] thread 31: 385704 hashes, 52.82 khash/s
[2014-08-04 10:15:08] accepted: 168/180 (93.33%), 1689 khash/s (yay!!!)
[2014-08-04 10:15:16] thread 22: 2428844 hashes, 52.73 khash/s
[2014-08-04 10:15:17] thread 9: 909500 hashes, 52.85 khash/s
[2014-08-04 10:15:17] accepted: 169/181 (93.37%), 1689 khash/s (yay!!!)

Please try again now, share difficulty reduced twice on the pool.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: cubydu on August 04, 2014, 11:12:58 AM

after 20 minutes..

http://i.imgur.com/XpgyV9b.png

Code:
[2014-08-04 10:15:07] accepted: 167/179 (93.30%), 1689 khash/s (yay!!!)
[2014-08-04 10:15:08] thread 31: 385704 hashes, 52.82 khash/s
[2014-08-04 10:15:08] accepted: 168/180 (93.33%), 1689 khash/s (yay!!!)
[2014-08-04 10:15:16] thread 22: 2428844 hashes, 52.73 khash/s
[2014-08-04 10:15:17] thread 9: 909500 hashes, 52.85 khash/s
[2014-08-04 10:15:17] accepted: 169/181 (93.37%), 1689 khash/s (yay!!!)

Please try again now, share difficulty reduced twice on the pool.

I have 50+ servers and can't mine with your pool.

Code:
[2014-08-04 11:11:45] thread 16: 3179920 hashes, 52.98 khash/s
[2014-08-04 11:11:45] thread 29: 3179943 hashes, 52.98 khash/s
[2014-08-04 11:11:45] thread 21: 3178083 hashes, 52.94 khash/s
[2014-08-04 11:11:45] thread 26: 3182991 hashes, 53.03 khash/s
[2014-08-04 11:11:45] thread 28: 3184239 hashes, 53.04 khash/s
[2014-08-04 11:11:45] thread 0: 3180678 hashes, 52.98 khash/s
[2014-08-04 11:11:45] thread 8: 3185592 hashes, 53.05 khash/s
[2014-08-04 11:11:45] thread 7: 3176664 hashes, 52.90 khash/s
[2014-08-04 11:11:45] thread 6: 3180061 hashes, 52.96 khash/s
[2014-08-04 11:11:45] thread 23: 3178024 hashes, 52.91 khash/s
[2014-08-04 11:11:45] thread 14: 3179769 hashes, 52.93 khash/s
[2014-08-04 11:11:45] thread 30: 3179639 hashes, 52.92 khash/s
[2014-08-04 11:11:49] thread 31: 3179764 hashes, 53.03 khash/s
[2014-08-04 11:11:52] thread 27: 3177642 hashes, 53.00 khash/s
[2014-08-04 11:11:58] thread 2: 3178923 hashes, 53.03 khash/s
[2014-08-04 11:12:04] thread 4: 3175476 hashes, 52.93 khash/s
[2014-08-04 11:12:09] thread 3: 1297180 hashes, 52.95 khash/s
[2014-08-04 11:12:09] accepted: 63/67 (94.03%), 1696 khash/s (yay!!!)
[2014-08-04 11:12:10] thread 5: 3175717 hashes, 52.94 khash/s

But when I mine with one server - all ok.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: ustcstone on August 04, 2014, 11:47:16 AM
i only get 1/3 of my hashrate on pool too.....

120+ i3, 100-120K for each one,but only get 4-5M on 1gh pool......


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: reorder on August 04, 2014, 11:53:12 AM
i only get 1/3 of my hashrate on pool too.....

120+ i3, 100-120K for each one,but only get 4-5M on 1gh pool......
Share difficulty pushed down even further now, please tell if it has helped (maybe it is a bit offtopic here, I suggest moving to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=392322)


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Uran0s on August 04, 2014, 12:24:08 PM
My wallet doesnt want to synchronize, Stuck on "Donloading headers" :/. Any help? This thread is so messy that cant find anything..


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: provenceday on August 04, 2014, 01:03:31 PM
list this on bittrex?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: richardn1987 on August 04, 2014, 01:05:01 PM
So, XCN coin limit 100x higher than XMR, XMR price 60x bigger than XCN. I guess this shit qualifies as fully pumped. right ? From now on it's basically "buy it when you need it", it's uselles as a store of value...
Yea like any other alt is a store of value. It'll take a year just to get to the level of coins bc has. Get over the total coin count guys. Nobody bitches about all the pos coins coming out everyday that get 10 million mined in 3 days.

At 1 year out, current price values market cap at ~$8m. Not extreme for the concept. That means 80% of those coins have still to be mined/distributed in the next 12 months : the slower steady distribution is a positive. I am a buyer.

~$8m is not extreme for the concept at this moment. Imagine in a year, when btc marketcap could be  500 billion.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: nzszxsl on August 04, 2014, 01:07:46 PM
what about change the total coins? 1 billion really too much  ::)


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Wolf0 on August 04, 2014, 01:12:21 PM
what about change the total coins? 1 billion really too much  ::)

You're an idiot. It does not matter where you put the decimal point.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: RushNY on August 04, 2014, 01:34:09 PM
Can we get some build instructions and dependencies?  Trying to get qt running on Elementary OS which is based on Ubuntu 12.04 afaik.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: nzszxsl on August 04, 2014, 01:38:57 PM
what about change the total coins? 1 billion really too much  ::)

You're an idiot. It does not matter where you put the decimal point.

well the ppl care about inflation is a idoit? what level of brain damage you are?  :D



Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: ChaseT on August 04, 2014, 01:42:23 PM
what about change the total coins? 1 billion really too much  ::)

You're an idiot. It does not matter where you put the decimal point.

well the ppl care about inflation is a idoit? what level of brain damage you are?  :D



maybe we can discuss this problem of inflation


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: drawingthesun on August 04, 2014, 02:05:54 PM
what about change the total coins? 1 billion really too much  ::)

You're an idiot. It does not matter where you put the decimal point.

well the ppl care about inflation is a idoit? what level of brain damage you are?  :D



maybe we can discuss this problem of inflation

what about change the total coins? 1 billion really too much  ::)

You're an idiot. It does not matter where you put the decimal point.

well the ppl care about inflation is a idoit? what level of brain damage you are?  :D




1 - You  cannot change the final amount of coins after the social contract for a coin has been set in place. Once a coin is released that will mint X amount of coins then the wheels are set in motion, this is a basic principle that even Satoshi talked about. If the creator of this coin then changed the final amount of coins or changed the inflation amount after the coin has been released, they are effectively creating a premine. A premine is bad, it'll kill all legitimacy for this coin.

2 - If you don't like the inflation rate, please fork this coin and release it under a new name.

3 - The creator specifically wanted high inflation for a fairer long term useage. You're currently asking for something that is against one of the primary purposes of this coin. You need to research about what a coin's creator intended in their coin before complaining about one of its primary objectives.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: nzszxsl on August 04, 2014, 02:23:58 PM
what about change the total coins? 1 billion really too much  ::)

You're an idiot. It does not matter where you put the decimal point.

well the ppl care about inflation is a idoit? what level of brain damage you are?  :D



maybe we can discuss this problem of inflation

what about change the total coins? 1 billion really too much  ::)

You're an idiot. It does not matter where you put the decimal point.

well the ppl care about inflation is a idoit? what level of brain damage you are?  :D




1 - You  cannot change the final amount of coins after the social contract for a coin has been set in place. Once a coin is released that will mint X amount of coins then the wheels are set in motion, this is a basic principle that even Satoshi talked about. If the creator of this coin then changed the final amount of coins or changed the inflation amount after the coin has been released, they are effectively creating a premine. A premine is bad, it'll kill all legitimacy for this coin.

2 - If you don't like the inflation rate, please fork this coin and release it under a new name.

3 - The creator specifically wanted high inflation for a fairer long term useage. You're currently asking for something that is against one of the primary purposes of this coin. You need to research about what a coin's creator intended in their coin before complaining about one of its primary objectives.

I guess his primary purposes is creat a coin to mine? whatever it is, I don't care, I got enough profit already and I'm going to find next coin has no gaint inflation like this ;D


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: AtlasONo on August 04, 2014, 02:28:06 PM
Nice, all I did was close and re-open it and this happened.  ::)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuM3Ls1IMAA82f7.jpg


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Majormax on August 04, 2014, 02:29:58 PM
So, XCN coin limit 100x higher than XMR, XMR price 60x bigger than XCN. I guess this shit qualifies as fully pumped. right ? From now on it's basically "buy it when you need it", it's uselles as a store of value...
Yea like any other alt is a store of value. It'll take a year just to get to the level of coins bc has. Get over the total coin count guys. Nobody bitches about all the pos coins coming out everyday that get 10 million mined in 3 days.

At 1 year out, current price values market cap at ~$8m. Not extreme for the concept. That means 80% of those coins have still to be mined/distributed in the next 12 months : the slower steady distribution is a positive. I am a buyer.

~$8m is not extreme for the concept at this moment. Imagine in a year, when btc marketcap could be  500 billion.

Yes, true, but 500BN is a bit of a stretch. My own guess is that BTC will be around 10bn in a year. The alternative concept coins will gain relatively to that ,and most of the clones, lacking sufficient support, will fade away. OCICBW


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Majormax on August 04, 2014, 02:31:58 PM
what about change the total coins? 1 billion really too much  ::)

You're an idiot. It does not matter where you put the decimal point.

well the ppl care about inflation is a idoit? what level of brain damage you are?  :D



maybe we can discuss this problem of inflation

what about change the total coins? 1 billion really too much  ::)

You're an idiot. It does not matter where you put the decimal point.

well the ppl care about inflation is a idoit? what level of brain damage you are?  :D




1 - You  cannot change the final amount of coins after the social contract for a coin has been set in place. Once a coin is released that will mint X amount of coins then the wheels are set in motion, this is a basic principle that even Satoshi talked about. If the creator of this coin then changed the final amount of coins or changed the inflation amount after the coin has been released, they are effectively creating a premine. A premine is bad, it'll kill all legitimacy for this coin.

2 - If you don't like the inflation rate, please fork this coin and release it under a new name.

3 - The creator specifically wanted high inflation for a fairer long term useage. You're currently asking for something that is against one of the primary purposes of this coin. You need to research about what a coin's creator intended in their coin before complaining about one of its primary objectives.

+1

XCN is what it is. The whole concept has been considered by the developers, buyers and miners make their choices.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Majormax on August 04, 2014, 02:33:39 PM
what about change the total coins? 1 billion really too much  ::)

You're an idiot. It does not matter where you put the decimal point.

well the ppl care about inflation is a idoit? what level of brain damage you are?  :D



maybe we can discuss this problem of inflation

Inflation is not a problem. It is a fact, and a way to gain an edge in disribution. I am strongly in favour of inflation (in the early years of a coin)


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: suchnekky on August 04, 2014, 02:52:19 PM
I guess if old blockchain data is deleted, it kind of makes this anonymous and untracable ;)


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: wenjiannin on August 04, 2014, 03:03:19 PM
this coin is to hot , erveryone go to buy somethings . :)


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: drawingthesun on August 04, 2014, 03:04:57 PM
I guess if old blockchain data is deleted, it kind of makes this anonymous and untracable ;)

Not really. People can save the old data, and even create a collaboration portal where blockchain chunks are uploaded to create an unbroken chain from day one for the purpose of reducing this coins anonymity abilities.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: watuba on August 04, 2014, 03:21:21 PM


1 - You  cannot change the final amount of coins after the social contract for a coin has been set in place. Once a coin is released that will mint X amount of coins then the wheels are set in motion, this is a basic principle that even Satoshi talked about. If the creator of this coin then changed the final amount of coins or changed the inflation amount after the coin has been released, they are effectively creating a premine. A premine is bad, it'll kill all legitimacy for this coin.

2 - If you don't like the inflation rate, please fork this coin and release it under a new name.

3 - The creator specifically wanted high inflation for a fairer long term useage. You're currently asking for something that is against one of the primary purposes of this coin. You need to research about what a coin's creator intended in their coin before complaining about one of its primary objectives.

+1

XCN is what it is. The whole concept has been considered by the developers, buyers and miners make their choices.

+10,000  

This answers 90% of the questions in the thread.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: koko2530 on August 04, 2014, 03:43:15 PM
wtb gpu miner
please pm
 ;D


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: xinweiwei on August 04, 2014, 03:46:40 PM
 >:(So big hash


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Alns on August 04, 2014, 03:56:12 PM
Miners dream, investors nightmare, too many inflation, iīm out and wait for the miners dumps.


Sorry for who bought at 14k.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: uvt9 on August 04, 2014, 04:09:21 PM
Dev could you give us an idea of how many coins are expected within the first half year, year and 2nd year ?

Heard something like 70 million in a year, way too much.
900+ million coins after 10 years. So it would be around 100 million coins in first year.



I guess if old blockchain data is deleted, it kind of makes this anonymous and untracable ;)

No you got it wrong, old block chain data is NOT deleted, you only decide not to store it (but other people do), instead you store an account table which list every address' balance (as far as i understand the scheme).

XCN is NOT anonymous and untracable.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Hix on August 04, 2014, 04:12:08 PM
Miners dream, investors nightmare, too many inflation, iīm out and wait for the miners dumps.


Sorry for who bought at 14k.
Nastradamus mode ON ;D


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: User705 on August 04, 2014, 04:26:44 PM
I guess if old blockchain data is deleted, it kind of makes this anonymous and untracable ;)

Not really. People can save the old data, and even create a collaboration portal where blockchain chunks are uploaded to create an unbroken chain from day one for the purpose of reducing this coins anonymity abilities.
Does the old data include individual transactions and are those transactions incorporated into the master hashes?  For example if address A sends 10 XCN to address B and address C sends 10 to address D.  Even with the old data what proof is there that address A didn't send to address D?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: uvt9 on August 04, 2014, 04:28:40 PM
Does the old data include individual transactions and are those transactions incorporated into the master hashes?

yes, old data have anything. You could retrieve it anytime you want.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: hankrules on August 04, 2014, 04:43:21 PM
Miners dream, investors nightmare, too many inflation, iīm out and wait for the miners dumps.


Sorry for who bought at 14k.
Nastradamus mode ON ;D
Nosferatu mode ON  ;D


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: djslick on August 04, 2014, 05:45:25 PM
Dev could you give us an idea of how many coins are expected within the first half year, year and 2nd year ?

Heard something like 70 million in a year, way too much.

double that actually, we've done over 3 million in 6 days.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: philipvdlinde on August 04, 2014, 05:49:42 PM
Dev could you give us an idea of how many coins are expected within the first half year, year and 2nd year ?

Heard something like 70 million in a year, way too much.

double that actually, we've done over 3 million in 6 days.
The block rewards are higher at the beginning obviously.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: ChaseT on August 04, 2014, 06:08:01 PM
but where is the dev?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Alns on August 04, 2014, 06:18:06 PM
Miners dream, investors nightmare, too many inflation, iīm out and wait for the miners dumps.


Sorry for who bought at 14k.
Nastradamus mode ON ;D


Told ya 7.5k, -50% in a few hours.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: User705 on August 04, 2014, 06:35:57 PM
Does the old data include individual transactions and are those transactions incorporated into the master hashes?

yes, old data have anything. You could retrieve it anytime you want.
yes but is that data part of the blockchain like the current inputs and outputs of bitcoin? 


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: PeaMine on August 04, 2014, 07:07:23 PM
Any pools not listed?
1GH seems to be the only one running right now.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Fablio2 on August 04, 2014, 07:18:10 PM
Any pools not listed?
1GH seems to be the only one running right now.
And there is a problem with 1GH. When I put on it 400KH - it shows 400KH, but when I put on it 12 Mh it shows 6Mh. Where is 50% of power?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: TooDumbForBitcoin on August 04, 2014, 07:19:24 PM
Quote
Not really. People can save the old data, and even create a collaboration portal where blockchain chunks are uploaded to create an unbroken chain from day one for the purpose of reducing this coins anonymity abilities.

Even more fun - they can fabricate chunks or overwrite transactions within the chunks so there can be 100 different archived blockchains floating around.  The entrepreneurial possiblities are endless.



Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: reorder on August 04, 2014, 07:19:54 PM
Any pools not listed?
1GH seems to be the only one running right now.
And there is a problem with 1GH. When I put on it 400KH - it shows 400KH, but when I put on it 12 Mh it shows 6Mh. Where is 50 of power?
Please append some unique ids to your mining addresses, like ADDRESS.SERVER1, ADDRESS.SERVER2 and so on to get better vardiff and hashrate utilizaition.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Thomas-s on August 04, 2014, 07:26:28 PM
Reduce the amount of coins or this will end up like Dogecoin.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: PeaMine on August 04, 2014, 07:46:50 PM
Any pools not listed?
1GH seems to be the only one running right now.
And there is a problem with 1GH. When I put on it 400KH - it shows 400KH, but when I put on it 12 Mh it shows 6Mh. Where is 50 of power?
Please append some unique ids to your mining addresses, like ADDRESS.SERVER1, ADDRESS.SERVER2 and so on to get better vardiff and hashrate utilizaition.

Even with just 1 400KH miner, it's maxing out at around 250KH on the pool.
What miner did you use to get a solid 400KH on the pool might I ask?
I'm using the pool's Linux one compiled from github.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Wolf0 on August 04, 2014, 08:00:34 PM
Any pools not listed?
1GH seems to be the only one running right now.
And there is a problem with 1GH. When I put on it 400KH - it shows 400KH, but when I put on it 12 Mh it shows 6Mh. Where is 50% of power?

They did just create the stratum implementation - maybe it's buggy.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: jeffersonairplane on August 04, 2014, 08:09:11 PM
You should make the coin distribution more clear to understand. Most people seem to think that all 1.8billion coins will exist in the next couple weeks or so when that is not true.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Relaxedsense on August 04, 2014, 08:14:32 PM
You should make the coin distribution more clear to understand. Most people seem to think that all 1.8billion coins will exist in the next couple weeks or so when that is not true.

Agree, this delutes the value


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: canonsburg on August 04, 2014, 08:44:01 PM
What people don't understand is that the total number of coins is actually irreverent. (except when its unlimited)

It doesn't matter if there are 10 coins or 10 billion coins. What really matter is the PERCENTAGE of coins you own relative to everyone else. If there's only 10 coins but I own 1 coin, I'd own 10% of the entire supply. If there are 10 billion coins but I own 10 million coins, then I'd only have 0.1% of the entire supply. The number of coins is nothing but a shift in the decimal place, but don't really affect what's really important, and that is the relative amount you own as a percentage of the total supply.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: jeffersonairplane on August 04, 2014, 08:45:24 PM
What people don't understand is that the total number of coins is actually irreverent. (except when its unlimited)

It doesn't matter if there are 10 coins or 10 billion coins. What really matter is the PERCENTAGE of coins you own relative to everyone else. If there's only 10 coins but I own 1 coin, I'd own 10% of the entire supply. If there are 10 billion coins but I own 10 million coins, then I'd only have 0.1% of the entire supply. The number of coins is nothing but a shift in the decimal place, but don't really affect what's really important, and that is the relative amount you own as a percentage of the total supply.

Yes, but this has to be made more obvious to 95% of the crypto community because everyone is looking for short term PoW coins to pump and dump.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: CryptoClub on August 04, 2014, 08:47:28 PM
Only around 3.3 Million coins in circulation. This actually has some innovation for a change, very interesting.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: smooth on August 04, 2014, 08:50:08 PM
What people don't understand is that the total number of coins is actually irreverent. (except when its unlimited)

It doesn't matter if there are 10 coins or 10 billion coins. What really matter is the PERCENTAGE of coins you own relative to everyone else. If there's only 10 coins but I own 1 coin, I'd own 10% of the entire supply. If there are 10 billion coins but I own 10 million coins, then I'd only have 0.1% of the entire supply. The number of coins is nothing but a shift in the decimal place, but don't really affect what's really important, and that is the relative amount you own as a percentage of the total supply.

+1

What is different about this coin is the 10 year mining cycle. There will be more inflation for a longer period of time than any other coin I can think of. I'm not saying that is bad, just different.



Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Thomas-s on August 04, 2014, 09:28:38 PM
Miner dream and investor nightmare.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: DonQuijote on August 04, 2014, 09:53:58 PM
Miner dream and investor nightmare.
haha true history, miners sell, investor lose money.
Too many coins...


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: zwiggel on August 04, 2014, 09:54:36 PM
why do people keep whining about the amount of coins..... it takes a fucking year to reach blackcoins coins and for the pump it wont even fucking matter only 3.3 atm


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: DonQuijote on August 04, 2014, 09:55:48 PM
Buy0.00009000 6329.156   0.56962


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: ReRunRod on August 04, 2014, 10:28:29 PM
Who has a working cryptonite.conf file? I need to sync my wallet but 0 connections.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: reorder on August 04, 2014, 10:29:36 PM
Who has a working cryptonite.conf file? I need to sync my wallet but 0 connections.
enter 'addnode seed.gpile.it onetry' in console several times.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: enerbyte on August 04, 2014, 10:33:21 PM
Who has a working cryptonite.conf file? I need to sync my wallet but 0 connections.
Code:
addnode=108.61.198.119
addnode=108.61.199.81
addnode=108.61.199.112
addnode=49.69.151.15:8253
addnode=91.147.186.68:8253
addnode=183.129.171.156:8253
addnode=210.64.51.11:8253
addnode=125.115.65.192:8253
addnode=83.212.114.217:8253
addnode=58.220.3.208:8253
addnode=106.120.221.254:8253


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: dzimbeck on August 04, 2014, 10:46:42 PM
Can somebody fork this and start a coin that actually mines a more reasonable supply that makes investors happy?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Momimaus on August 04, 2014, 11:28:25 PM


Can dev put a graph out, where I can see how much new coins will be mined per day/month/year.

Thatīs the biggest problem, that keeps me out buying. I will not buy a coin, when the supply doubles in a couple of days.

And just to say itīs not, it takes 10 years etc. doesnīt help me to decide.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Primitive on August 04, 2014, 11:33:36 PM


Can dev put a graph out, where I can see how much new coins will be mined per day/month/year.

Thatīs the biggest problem, that keeps me out buying. I will not buy a coin, when the supply doubles in a couple of days.

And just to say itīs not, it takes 10 years etc. doesnīt help me to decide.

i think XCN is a really promising coin, but another thing to keep an eye on is distribution - due to some early miners throwing massive hashes at it, I think XCN is concentrated in a few large holders.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: dunchy on August 04, 2014, 11:38:19 PM


Can dev put a graph out, where I can see how much new coins will be mined per day/month/year.

Thatīs the biggest problem, that keeps me out buying. I will not buy a coin, when the supply doubles in a couple of days.

And just to say itīs not, it takes 10 years etc. doesnīt help me to decide.

i think XCN is a really promising coin, but another thing to keep an eye on is distribution - due to some early miners throwing massive hashes at it, I think XCN is concentrated in a few large holders.

This coin wasted itself in first 4 hours of existence. It's a GPU ambush. Pretty common scam nowdays, release a "cpu" coin, with a gpu miner ready at launch. Nice idea about minichains though. Wait for a clean release of it.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Majormax on August 04, 2014, 11:39:37 PM
Reduce the amount of coins or this will end up like Dogecoin.

Like Dogecoin : so price will go up 100x more to be equal to Dogecoin  marketcap ? 


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Majormax on August 04, 2014, 11:40:53 PM
You should make the coin distribution more clear to understand. Most people seem to think that all 1.8billion coins will exist in the next couple weeks or so when that is not true.

That would be their error in not reading properly.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Majormax on August 04, 2014, 11:42:06 PM
What people don't understand is that the total number of coins is actually irreverent. (except when its unlimited)

It doesn't matter if there are 10 coins or 10 billion coins. What really matter is the PERCENTAGE of coins you own relative to everyone else. If there's only 10 coins but I own 1 coin, I'd own 10% of the entire supply. If there are 10 billion coins but I own 10 million coins, then I'd only have 0.1% of the entire supply. The number of coins is nothing but a shift in the decimal place, but don't really affect what's really important, and that is the relative amount you own as a percentage of the total supply.

Yes, but this has to be made more obvious to 95% of the crypto community because everyone is looking for short term PoW coins to pump and dump.

That is good for XCN then. Offputting to the speculators, as designed.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: TooDumbForBitcoin on August 04, 2014, 11:46:07 PM
Quote
What people don't understand is that the total number of coins is actually irreverent.

This is only true for SARCASM coin, JESTER coin, and STEVENCOLBERT coin.







Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: sbgyuff520 on August 05, 2014, 12:36:23 AM
Who can give me a GPU tool? I want to SOLO


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: wyj1888 on August 05, 2014, 01:01:20 AM
Any pools not listed?
1GH seems to be the only one running right now.
And there is a problem with 1GH. When I put on it 400KH - it shows 400KH, but when I put on it 12 Mh it shows 6Mh. Where is 50 of power?
Please append some unique ids to your mining addresses, like ADDRESS.SERVER1, ADDRESS.SERVER2 and so on to get better vardiff and hashrate utilizaition.

1G pool steals something from all mininers in 1G...YOU know!!


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: ReRunRod on August 05, 2014, 01:06:35 AM
Who has a working cryptonite.conf file? I need to sync my wallet but 0 connections.
Code:
addnode=108.61.198.119
addnode=108.61.199.81
addnode=108.61.199.112
addnode=49.69.151.15:8253
addnode=91.147.186.68:8253
addnode=183.129.171.156:8253
addnode=210.64.51.11:8253
addnode=125.115.65.192:8253
addnode=83.212.114.217:8253
addnode=58.220.3.208:8253
addnode=106.120.221.254:8253

Thank you!


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: kov on August 05, 2014, 01:06:50 AM
Who has a working cryptonite.conf file? I need to sync my wallet but 0 connections.
Code:
addnode=108.61.198.119
addnode=108.61.199.81
addnode=108.61.199.112
addnode=49.69.151.15:8253
addnode=91.147.186.68:8253
addnode=183.129.171.156:8253
addnode=210.64.51.11:8253
addnode=125.115.65.192:8253
addnode=83.212.114.217:8253
addnode=58.220.3.208:8253
addnode=106.120.221.254:8253


Thank you for this. Wallet running and synced on win8.1 - QT v. 14080401


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: ReRunRod on August 05, 2014, 01:09:52 AM
Who has a working cryptonite.conf file? I need to sync my wallet but 0 connections.
enter 'addnode seed.gpile.it onetry' in console several times.

+1 now it works! :)


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: smooth on August 05, 2014, 01:13:49 AM
This coin wasted itself in first 4 hours of existence. It's a GPU ambush. Pretty common scam nowdays, release a "cpu" coin, with a gpu miner ready at launch. Nice idea about minichains though. Wait for a clean release of it.

^^^ This.

+1000

Even if it isn't a GPU ambush, which no one on the outside can ever know, it looks the same as one. If you want to avoid scams you pretty much have to avoid this coin (too?).

A fork of this coin with a clean launch and a mature PoW has a real shot.



Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: q327K091 on August 05, 2014, 01:48:10 AM
Miners dream, investors nightmare, too many inflation, iīm out and wait for the miners dumps.


Sorry for who bought at 14k.
Nastradamus mode ON ;D
Nosferatu mode ON  ;D
Cayce mode ON ;D

I predict GPU miner will show up from the darknet first then 5% to the developer then go git

but so far CPU, so ok, 10 years is a long time I also predict that coin will be forgotten then remembered again but 10 years is a long time so it will come in waves.. this is actually cool

glory to thee who mine this non stop for a year, while 1000's of coins with interesting algo float around , and every day someone comes out with some permutation of blockchain parameters, I say next thing is coin that has blockchain build into TV snow.. and use cosmic rays for random seed

meantime I am mining this no idea why but I am


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: truckythin on August 05, 2014, 02:40:11 AM
Wolf` super miner watching mode ON lol


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Superxfast on August 05, 2014, 04:15:19 AM
Hi all,

I am using the lastest wallet.

It is in downloading blocks, 3860 block behind. It stucks here several days, can't not sync.

Please help!


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: bitfreak! on August 05, 2014, 04:42:54 AM
This coin wasted itself in first 4 hours of existence. It's a GPU ambush. Pretty common scam nowdays, release a "cpu" coin, with a gpu miner ready at launch. Nice idea about minichains though. Wait for a clean release of it.

^^^ This.

+1000

Even if it isn't a GPU ambush, which no one on the outside can ever know, it looks the same as one. If you want to avoid scams you pretty much have to avoid this coin (too?).

A fork of this coin with a clean launch and a mature PoW has a real shot.
Right... go ahead, reduce the coins to 2 million, have them all mined within a week, premine it to the shit, but it's not a scam because you have a GPU miner available at launch. If we wanted to make a nice healthy return on the immense amount of effort we put into this coin we would have simply premined it, and it was a very hard decision to go with no premine because I've spent a lot of money out of my own pocket on this coin. In all honestly we could have done a rather large premine like MOST coins do and people wouldn't be complaining as much as they are about having no GPU miner at launch. Whoever has that huge amount of hashing power might have created their own private GPU miner but we have no damn GPU miner, but catia has been working on one for the last few days and it should be available soon. You guys have no appreciation of anything we've done here and I'm sick of it. Go create your own fork of Cryptonite because I can't stand to listen to your whining any more.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: smooth on August 05, 2014, 04:58:36 AM
Right... go ahead, reduce the coins to 2 million, have them all mined within a week, premine it to the shit, but it's not a scam because you have a GPU miner available at launch.

Actually I have a better idea.

Let's keep everything the same and substitute a mature PoW that won't get scammed by the first guy who can compile a better miner for an algorithm that has never been examined or optimized by anyone before. It is possible that first guy might well not be the developers, but how does anyone tell the difference? You have never answered that question and you continue to ignore that avoiding conflicts of interest in a non-transparent trust-free environment includes avoiding, structurally, the possibility or appearance of same.

Seriously, what were you thinking? You have all these great ideas for mini-blockchain, scalability, microtransactions, etc., and then you mess it up by trying to play PoW cryptographer, for part of the coin that adds no real value over 100 other PoW algorithms. Why?

Oh, and since you have no premine or other scammy incentive to want to stay on this fork, you might as well just develop right on the other fork instead, and save someone the trouble of merging your changes. Why not?




Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: networkcoinage on August 05, 2014, 05:00:22 AM
Here's Coins Source's Latest Article Featuring Cryptonite:

http://www.coinssource.com/cryptonite-the-first-mini-blockchain/


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: bitfreak! on August 05, 2014, 05:23:50 AM
It is possible that first guy might well not be the developers, but how does anyone tell the difference? You have never answered that question and you continue to ignore that avoiding conflicts of interest in a non-transparent trust-free environment includes avoiding, structurally, the possibility or appearance of same.
Obviously there is no easy way to prove it's not us, but if you've been following development of the GPU miner on IRC and other threads here, it's pretty damn obvious we don't have one. I bought the majority of my coins on Bter in fact. And lets just assume that's not true, in reality it doesn't matter much at all because we're only a week into mining and it takes 10 years for half of all coins to be mined. Only a very small fraction of all coins have been mined so far, and the GPU miner should be ready very soon. There is more than enough time for more people to start mining and offset this one large miner.

Quote
Seriously, what were you thinking? You have all these great ideas for mini-blockchain, scalability, microtransactions, etc., and then you mess it up by trying to play PoW cryptographer, for part of the coin that adds no real value over 100 other PoW algorithms. Why?
There were several good reasons actually. We started off by looking at existing PoW algorithms and we thought about using a PoS hybrid or a memory hard algorithm but ultimately decided to just stick with the multi-hash approach used by Quark and similar coins because we felt that was more in line with the original ideals of Bitcoin and it was much easier to implement with the limited time we had. However we didn't feel like the existing multi-hash PoW algorithms were great, they used unknown and even obsolete hashing functions just so they could claim to use a greater number of hashing functions. We wanted something which placed emphasis on quality of hash functions and not quantity, and something that could not instantly be adapted to GPU miners so that average desktop users had a chance to mine the coin before the big GPU miners began to dominate everything.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: CryptoClub on August 05, 2014, 05:30:04 AM
It is possible that first guy might well not be the developers, but how does anyone tell the difference? You have never answered that question and you continue to ignore that avoiding conflicts of interest in a non-transparent trust-free environment includes avoiding, structurally, the possibility or appearance of same.
Obviously there is no easy way to prove it's not us, but if you've been following development of the GPU miner on IRC and other threads here, it's pretty damn obvious we don't have one. I bought the majority of my coins on Bter in fact. And lets just assume that's not true, in reality it doesn't matter much at all because we're only a week into mining and it takes 10 years for half of all coins to be mined. Only a very small fraction of all coins have been mined so far, and the GPU miner should be ready very soon. There is more than enough time for more people to start mining and offset this one large miner.

Quote
Seriously, what were you thinking? You have all these great ideas for mini-blockchain, scalability, microtransactions, etc., and then you mess it up by trying to play PoW cryptographer, for part of the coin that adds no real value over 100 other PoW algorithms. Why?
There were several good reasons actually. We started off by looking at existing PoW algorithms and we thought about using a PoS hybrid or a memory hard algorithm but ultimately decided to just stick with the multi-hash approach used by Quark and similar coins because we felt that was more in line with the original ideals of Bitcoin and it was much easier to implement with the limited time we had. However we didn't feel like the existing multi-hash PoW algorithms were great, they used unknown and even obsolete hashing functions just so they could claim to use a greater number of hashing functions. We wanted something which placed emphasis on quality of hash functions and not quantity, and something that could not instantly be adapted to GPU miners so that average desktop users had a chance to mine the coin before the big GPU miners began to dominate everything.

I appreciate quality coins myself. Best of luck. :)


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: smooth on August 05, 2014, 05:34:16 AM
start mining and offset this one large miner.

Correction, we don't know there is "one" large miner, we just know of one. Not the same thing at all.

Moreover, we don't know that releasing one GPU miner will create any kind of parity. There may still be highly optimized miners lurking, since the algorithm has gotten so little scrutiny. Several of the developer's statements about it have been contradicted by dga, who is clearly expert on the subject.

You have your arguments for existing PoWs not being very good, and you might be right, I take no position on that really. If you had/have ideas for PoW, then publish them and get peer review, or push them out on an otherwise uninteresting coin and let the world take a whack at breaking it.

I do take issue with muddying the waters on an otherwise interesting and innovative coin by throwing in an unproven and immature PoW. PoW is cryptography. Cryptography is hard. This was a blunder.

Quote
Don't roll your own crypto
http://security.stackexchange.com/questions/2202/lessons-learned-and-misconceptions-regarding-encryption-and-cryptology/2210#2210


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Wolf0 on August 05, 2014, 05:41:42 AM
start mining and offset this one large miner.

Correction, we don't know there is "one" large miner, we just know of one. Not the same thing at all.

Moreover, we don't know that releasing one GPU miner will create any kind of parity. There may still be highly optimized miners lurking, since the algorithm has gotten so little scrutiny. Several of the developer's statements about it have been contradicted by dga, who is clearly expert on the subject.

You have your arguments for existing PoWs not being very good, and you might be right, I take no position on that really. If you had/have ideas for PoW, then publish them and get peer review, or push them out on an otherwise uninteresting coin and let the world take a whack at breaking it.

I do take issue with muddying the waters on an otherwise interesting and innovative coin by throwing in an unproven and immature PoW. PoW is cryptography. Cryptography is hard. This was a blunder.

Quote
Don't roll your own crypto
http://security.stackexchange.com/questions/2202/lessons-learned-and-misconceptions-regarding-encryption-and-cryptology/2210#2210


Confirmation: Alg can be shortcutted to hell.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: bitfreak! on August 05, 2014, 05:43:35 AM
I do take issue with muddying the waters on an otherwise interesting and innovative coin by throwing in an unproven and immature PoW. PoW is cryptography. Cryptography is hard. This was a blunder.
LOL everything about this coin is unproven and highly experimental. We designed an entire CRYPTO-currency here, the PoW algorithm should be the least of your worries, it's probably the most trustworthy aspect of the coin compared to all the other new ideas implemented in this coin.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: smooth on August 05, 2014, 05:48:52 AM
I do take issue with muddying the waters on an otherwise interesting and innovative coin by throwing in an unproven and immature PoW. PoW is cryptography. Cryptography is hard. This was a blunder.
LOL everything about this coin is unproven and highly experimental. We designed an entire CRYPTO-currency here, the PoW algorithm should be the least of your worries, it's probably the most trustworthy aspect of the coin compared to all the other new ideas implemented in this coin.

I guess we are going in circles, but that is why it should have been the least of your worries in developing it. But to each his own.

There is no doubt in my mind this coin would be seeing more early success (and that, often, later success builds on early success) had a mature PoW been used. Perhaps there is no doubt in your mind that I am wrong. I guess that's why altcoins are so much fun.




Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Primitive on August 05, 2014, 05:53:35 AM
does anyone have the expertise to pull a "rich list" from the XCN blockchain?  i think this is important to establish for those of us worried about the early mining issues, and the possibility of the majority of the circulation owned by very few top wallets.  this unknown is the only thing preventing me from buying XCN.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: smooth on August 05, 2014, 05:59:19 AM
does anyone have the expertise to pull a "rich list" from the XCN blockchain?  i think this is important to establish for those of us worried about the early mining issues, and the possibility of the majority of the circulation owned by very few top wallets.  this unknown is the only thing preventing me from buying XCN.

I would caution that there is no way to know how many wallets/addresses someone controls. Whoever is running that miner that is getting 20+% of the coins is either pretty dumb, or wants to be discovered, because if he just mined into 10-20 different addresses no one would have ever found it.



Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: tk808 on August 05, 2014, 06:02:49 AM
News article now published on Coins Source, as requested on Twitter earlier :)

http://www.coinssource.com/cryptonite-the-first-mini-blockchain/


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Pale Phoenix on August 05, 2014, 06:22:19 AM

I guess we are going in circles, but that is why it should have been the least of your worries in developing it. But to each his own.

There is no doubt in my mind this coin would be seeing more early success (and that, often, later success builds on early success) had a mature PoW been used. Perhaps there is no doubt in your mind that I am wrong. I guess that's why altcoins are so much fun.




Sheesh, your concern trolling is tiresome.

"More early success?" Pfft, that's just an empty assertion to justify your belabored critique. You've repeatedly shared your concerns, but the coin will not be relaunched, nor will the developer's design decisions be revisited.  Perhaps we can let the market take it from here?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: smooth on August 05, 2014, 06:32:49 AM
but the coin will not be relaunched, nor will the developer's design decisions be revisited.  Perhaps we can let the market take it from here?

You don't know that. I'd definitely fork it, toss the PoW and relaunch it myself if I weren't already busy with other things. If someone else wants to do it, it may happen.

It would actually be a bad bet to say this coin won't be forked. Whether those inevitable forks get any success is hard to say. Launch problems definitely help forks, but it is a question of degree.



Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: ChaseT on August 05, 2014, 06:53:00 AM
what you don't understand is this:  the technology of XCN is so great it should overcome the inflation issue


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: watuba on August 05, 2014, 07:02:24 AM
what you don't understand is this:  the technology of XCN is so great, the inflation is part of a great long-term fair distribution plan



Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: smooth on August 05, 2014, 07:08:13 AM
what you don't understand is this:  the technology of XCN is so great, the inflation is part of a great long-term fair distribution plan


Since I've been critical of some things, for balance I will point out that this is probably my favorite part of this coin.

No it likely won't have a massive pump (and perhaps the pumps it has already seen have been too high -- I believe this), but that means the price will stay low enough for people to buy in or mine at reasonable difficulties for a long time. Coins that want to shut the door after a few early adopters get in are great for pump-and-dump purposes but have no real chance long term. It also means serious, potentially existential and possibly unfixable, problems with mining incentives that plague most other coins (including at some point Bitcoin) don't come up for many, many decades.




Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: drakoin on August 05, 2014, 07:13:03 AM
Quote
Name:   bitfreak!
Posts:   1000
Activity:   896
Position:   Hero Member
Date Registered:   May 22, 2011, 06:36:59 AM
Last Active:   Today at 06:50:45 AM

user 14351 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=14351), congratulations to your post #1000

:-)


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: wenjiannin on August 05, 2014, 07:28:38 AM
Quote
Name:   bitfreak!
Posts:   1000
Activity:   896
Position:   Hero Member
Date Registered:   May 22, 2011, 06:36:59 AM
Last Active:   Today at 06:50:45 AM

user 14351 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=14351), congratulations to your post #1000

:-)

you the best i love you


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: piccionipier on August 05, 2014, 07:37:40 AM
I do take issue with muddying the waters on an otherwise interesting and innovative coin by throwing in an unproven and immature PoW. PoW is cryptography. Cryptography is hard. This was a blunder.
LOL everything about this coin is unproven and highly experimental. We designed an entire CRYPTO-currency here, the PoW algorithm should be the least of your worries, it's probably the most trustworthy aspect of the coin compared to all the other new ideas implemented in this coin.


go Ahead  ;)


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: ChaseT on August 05, 2014, 08:15:38 AM
@bitfreak are you worried about possible clones?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Sev0 on August 05, 2014, 08:31:48 AM
Any pools not listed?
1GH seems to be the only one running right now.
And there is a problem with 1GH. When I put on it 400KH - it shows 400KH, but when I put on it 12 Mh it shows 6Mh. Where is 50% of power?

They did just create the stratum implementation - maybe it's buggy.
Where, or with what, do you get this big hashrates?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: discodancer on August 05, 2014, 08:43:21 AM
but the coin will not be relaunched, nor will the developer's design decisions be revisited.  Perhaps we can let the market take it from here?

You don't know that. I'd definitely fork it, toss the PoW and relaunch it myself if I weren't already busy with other things. If someone else wants to do it, it may happen.

It would actually be a bad bet to say this coin won't be forked. Whether those inevitable forks get any success is hard to say. Launch problems definitely help forks, but it is a question of degree.


My guess is anyone wanting to fork is waiting for things to clear out. with all due respect to catia's hard work, there are things still left to do with this coin.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: smooth on August 05, 2014, 08:52:43 AM
but the coin will not be relaunched, nor will the developer's design decisions be revisited.  Perhaps we can let the market take it from here?

You don't know that. I'd definitely fork it, toss the PoW and relaunch it myself if I weren't already busy with other things. If someone else wants to do it, it may happen.

It would actually be a bad bet to say this coin won't be forked. Whether those inevitable forks get any success is hard to say. Launch problems definitely help forks, but it is a question of degree.


My guess is anyone wanting to fork is waiting for things to clear out. with all due respect to catia's hard work, there are things still left to do with this coin.

That's what merging is for. If you change nothing but the proof of work, merging will be trivial, and could even be automated.




Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: PeaMine on August 05, 2014, 09:18:41 AM
I'm trying to send using cryptonited, but I get this error:
error: {"code":-3,"message":"Invalid amount, too short"}
cryptonited sendtoaddress CS7BStDpSWvixRS99T3Twp9zQUBaA9mqKG 10


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: smooth on August 05, 2014, 09:25:50 AM
I'm trying to send using cryptonited, but I get this error:
error: {"code":-3,"message":"Invalid amount, too short"}
cryptonited sendtoaddress CS7BStDpSWvixRS99T3Twp9zQUBaA9mqKG 10

You have to put a decimal point and a whole bunch of zeros (keep adding them until it works -- you will get different error messages) and the letters ep at the end. I have no idea why.



Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: q327K091 on August 05, 2014, 09:42:22 AM
I'm trying to send using cryptonited, but I get this error:
error: {"code":-3,"message":"Invalid amount, too short"}
cryptonited sendtoaddress CS7BStDpSWvixRS99T3Twp9zQUBaA9mqKG 10

You have to put a decimal point and a whole bunch of zeros (keep adding them until it works -- you will get different error messages) and the letters ep at the end. I have no idea why.



I love it, no I am serious, this will work, this might actually take off, has element of humor built into it, let me check my balance

it isssss 238 is that a lot ? , even this question is funny

may I add couple of 0's there also ? and increase balance that way magically ?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: restless on August 05, 2014, 09:50:57 AM
wow, some addresses mine @1gh with 600MH ... thats more than 5000 haswell cores...

I really wonder why giving money to botnets is ok :S


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: watuba on August 05, 2014, 10:05:32 AM
I'm trying to send using cryptonited, but I get this error:
error: {"code":-3,"message":"Invalid amount, too short"}
cryptonited sendtoaddress CS7BStDpSWvixRS99T3Twp9zQUBaA9mqKG 10

Please ignore the vague troll-ish instructions above.

Exact format needs to be 10 decimal places with the "ep" at the end.  
./cryptonited sendtoaddress mvqH4czVQg2HdGpkV7PWVZJpRXVwLnMXpN "30.0100000000ep"

Explained, for anyone sincerely interested in knowing why this was done:
http://cryptonite.info/wiki/index.php?title=Cryptonite_API#A_note_about_EP_amounts


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: PeaMine on August 05, 2014, 10:07:45 AM
I'm trying to send using cryptonited, but I get this error:
error: {"code":-3,"message":"Invalid amount, too short"}
cryptonited sendtoaddress CS7BStDpSWvixRS99T3Twp9zQUBaA9mqKG 10

Exact format needs to be 10 decimal places with the "ep" at the end.  Please ignore the vague troll-ish instructions above.
./cryptonited sendtoaddress mvqH4czVQg2HdGpkV7PWVZJpRXVwLnMXpN "30.0100000000ep"

Explained, for anyone sincerely interested in knowing why this was done:
http://cryptonite.info/wiki/index.php?title=Cryptonite_API#A_note_about_EP_amounts

Thanks that worked!
Edit: guess I should have read
http://cryptonite.info/wiki/index.php?title=Cryptonite_API


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: Haggisahh on August 05, 2014, 10:08:35 AM
I like what I see; an actually active member with a lot of good ideas.
However, I dont feel safe investing until i know:
#1 The disribution graphed out, I want to easily figure out what the current inflation is.
#2 Who or what these huge miners is. This is perhaps harder to deal with at this point, but it seems to me the most likely either a large botnet or a private gpu farm. Neither of these make me feel confident in the currency.


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: digitalgrow on August 05, 2014, 10:17:23 AM
hi my wallet isnt syncing
could someone give me some addnodes for my conf?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: savale on August 05, 2014, 10:20:15 AM
a GPU farm is not impossible, but implementing these CL files for an AMD gpu is pretty hard. It would suprise me if someone made it that far. a large botnet is possible.

By the way: that mini blockchain feature is a really useful feature! Nice find


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: q327K091 on August 05, 2014, 10:26:30 AM
wow, some addresses mine @1gh with 600MH ... thats more than 5000 haswell cores...

I really wonder why giving money to botnets is ok :S

that is why GPU's are ok its hard for a botnet to take GPU over although I am sure many are trying, above does look like a large botnet farm indeed, surprised law enforcement is not tracing it to the source and try to shut it down

yeah you can not compete with above, you can get 1,000 maybe 10,000 if patient , by that time difficulty is sky high why botnet network sits on 1,000,000 coins, then GPU miner is released and people catch up to 100,000 (if patient, who does that actually as people jump around the coins)

so 10 years is looking better and better in my view

but this also could be a hidden GPU miner, by some savvy developer(s) from the underground, in which case this is fair as long as not a developer that launched the coin, so best one can hope for is release of open source GPU miner, if anyone is watching this thread please do so for Nvidia (they eat electricity less  8)


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: marada on August 05, 2014, 10:29:41 AM
Anyone mining with AMD CPU?

Please share hashrate results.

I am mining with AMD.

FX-6300@4,2 GH = 420 kH
Athlon II X2 B28 @ 3,4 GH = 150 kH
Athlon X2 4850e  @ 2,5 GH = 90 kH

Some updates as we have new miner:

FX-6300@4,2 GH = 512 kH
Athlon II X2 B28 @ 3,4 GH = 175 kH
Athlon X2 4850e  @ 2,5 GH = 105 kH
A4-6300 X2 @ 3,7 GH = 148 kH


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: q327K091 on August 05, 2014, 10:32:47 AM
Anyone mining with AMD CPU?

Please share hashrate results.

I am mining with AMD.

FX-6300@4,2 GH = 420 kH
Athlon II X2 B28 @ 3,4 GH = 150 kH
Athlon X2 4850e  @ 2,5 GH = 90 kH

Some updates as we have new miner:

FX-6300@4,2 GH = 512 kH
Athlon II X2 B28 @ 3,4 GH = 175 kH
Athlon X2 4850e  @ 2,5 GH = 105 kH
A4-6300 X2 @ 3,7 GH = 148 kH

nice

I am mining with 2 MHS  w/ AMD 1090T (only 150 W power consumption, but boxes heat up regardless) will try to push to 1,000 maybe more and wait for GPU and perform plan as above , we have plenty of time 10 years!

In my estimation if CPU botnets, there is approx 300 to 500 machines infected which is not a lot actually, my humor is getting less and less, but there is some decent innovation behind this coin, but can not have CPU only or this happens, people will mine mostly for fun (not profit) when GPU miner comes up prices will come up automatically, that's all

next time something like this is launched a link to GPU miner should be made available at the same time, if this would happen here exchanges would devour this coin like no tomorrow and miners would rejoyce


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: watuba on August 05, 2014, 10:33:33 AM
hi my wallet isnt syncing
could someone give me some addnodes for my conf?

There are some nodes listed on the previous page, but also just try this command:
./cryptonited addnode seed.gpile.it onetry

Keep trying that until it finds one.  That's what cryptonited does by default, but just not very fast :)


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: marada on August 05, 2014, 10:40:55 AM
I am mining with 2 MHS  w/ AMD 1090T (only 150 W power consumption, but boxes heat up regardless) will try to push to 1,000 maybe more and wait for GPU and perform plan as above , we have plenty of time 10 years!

You really mean 2 Mhs/s (2000 Kh/s) with Phenom II X6 1090T Processor?  :o

You killed me...
What soft do you use?


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: q327K091 on August 05, 2014, 10:44:05 AM
I am mining with 2 MHS  w/ AMD 1090T (only 150 W power consumption, but boxes heat up regardless) will try to push to 1,000 maybe more and wait for GPU and perform plan as above , we have plenty of time 10 years!

You really mean 2 Mhs/s (2000 Kh/s) with Phenom II X6 1090T Processor?  :o

You killed me...
What soft do you use?

and have competition from 1000's of miners reading this thread?, custom software with highly optimized assembler routines...

also do hurry up as GPU miner is being worked on, but that is a good thing


Title: Re: [ANN][XCN] Cryptonite | 1st mini-blockchain coin | M7 PoW | No Premine
Post by: jly77 on August 05, 2014, 11:02:53 AM