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Title: Tor no longer anonymous -- network can be broken (source)
Post by: binkshurts on July 31, 2014, 03:05:41 PM
You can be caught.

 Sorry for all the coins that were so committed to Tor anonymity

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jul/31/tor-attack-revealed-user-identities-anonymised-onion-router


Title: Re: Tor no longer anonymous -- network can be broken (source)
Post by: roslinpl on July 31, 2014, 04:23:57 PM
You can be caught.

 Sorry for all the coins that were so committed to Tor anonymity

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/jul/31/tor-attack-revealed-user-identities-anonymised-onion-router


I was silently laughing at all of those coins which implemented Tor.

There is nothing like being anonymous over the Internet.
If you want to stay anonymous tor wasn't a best choice :-)

Regards.


Title: Re: Tor no longer anonymous -- network can be broken (source)
Post by: joe 90 on July 31, 2014, 04:29:26 PM
Perhaps one of the coins using a different anon system to Tor might be a better bet if you want anonymity.


Title: Re: Tor no longer anonymous -- network can be broken (source)
Post by: Finley on July 31, 2014, 04:43:40 PM
coin with Tor is a joke,i have already know


Title: Re: Tor no longer anonymous -- network can be broken (source)
Post by: northranger79510 on July 31, 2014, 04:45:43 PM
Tor actually makes it easy to identify people since you can identify people using tor and not using tor..tor is a joke and a noob-level layer of privacy defense.


Title: Re: Tor no longer anonymous -- network can be broken (source)
Post by: binkshurts on July 31, 2014, 04:47:17 PM
Tor actually makes it easy to identify people since you can identify people using tor and not using tor..tor is a joke and a noob-level layer of privacy defense.

I was actually thinking that beforehand. Unless it's used by the overwhelmingly large portion of internet users then it'll be more effective..


Title: Re: Tor no longer anonymous -- network can be broken (source)
Post by: profitofthegods on July 31, 2014, 05:23:32 PM
Tor was created by the US government, and is still funded byt he US government. Obviously they wouldn't do that without putting in a way to track its users themselves.


Title: Re: Tor no longer anonymous -- network can be broken (source)
Post by: Spoetnik on July 31, 2014, 07:55:58 PM
This is like the Truecrypt news ! Its not safe anymore use our centralized NSA control shit please. Will you fall for their propaganda that fast ?

ya i seen a Truecrypt news headline about this a while back..
anyone using it needs to Google search the news story asap ! no joke !

and i am not sure what this TOR news is so i guess thanks for the heads up and..
lets see if this new TOR news affects any coin here.. hmm ?


Title: Re: Tor no longer anonymous -- network can be broken (source)
Post by: Nullu on July 31, 2014, 07:57:34 PM
I think the wave of Anonymous coins is a bit of a fad.

Honestly, how anonymous do you need your transactions to be? What the hell are you buying that's so shady?


Title: Re: Tor no longer anonymous -- network can be broken (source)
Post by: Amph on July 31, 2014, 08:02:49 PM
I think the wave of Anonymous coins is a bit of a fad.

Honestly, how anonymous do you need your transactions to be? What the hell are you buying that's so shady?

cp i presume lol


Title: Re: Tor no longer anonymous -- network can be broken (source)
Post by: rubenaco on July 31, 2014, 08:07:02 PM
I think the wave of Anonymous coins is a bit of a fad.

Honestly, how anonymous do you need your transactions to be? What the hell are you buying that's so shady?

it will surely interest to more people than you think you


Title: Re: Tor no longer anonymous -- network can be broken (source)
Post by: joe 90 on July 31, 2014, 10:24:56 PM
I think the wave of Anonymous coins is a bit of a fad.

Honestly, how anonymous do you need your transactions to be? What the hell are you buying that's so shady?

it will surely interest to more people than you think you

Personally, I'm not interested in anonymity services, but I agree there are plenty of people who want them.


Title: Re: Tor no longer anonymous -- network can be broken (source)
Post by: Ejaculation on July 31, 2014, 10:32:13 PM
If you still trust in Tor's anonymity you are retarded. It barely makes a difference.


Title: Re: Tor no longer anonymous -- network can be broken (source)
Post by: Spoetnik on July 31, 2014, 10:36:38 PM
i've said all along TOR was stupid..

all you have to do is cross referencing ..done.

crackers know this well.
why would i attack a programs crypto algo protections if i can side step it ?
and i do both on a regular basis.. cracking and reversing crypto protection schemes..

i have been coding Keygens for my firewall and posting them online for a couple years for example.
and no matter what crypto graphic scheme the dev pulls i reverse engineer it and code a keygen and upload it with minutes of getting his binaries.
i got into a fight with him online too before about reversing his shit..
and i told him further more, i can circumvent your bullshit even easier with even less effort !
i said one simple patch in one place and your entire protection system is neutralized.. he called me a liar lol

so i took five minutes taking screen shots of the tools i used to do it and posted a working crack and a tutorial showing how simple it was.
he got pissed off and said that was uncalled for.. i said well you called me a liar LOL
consider your ass owned ya cocky piece shit faggot hahha
i own your fucking ass and i always will so deal with it bitch .. come to terms with it.. it's happening tough guy.
and he did.
to this day he has learned to accept the fact i can pwn his ass at will when ever i want LOL
and other scene groups come and keygen his Security software too as i told him they would..
..the more he spouts off the more other guys keygen his ass too lol

i found a story by accident before how the first hop on some traceroutes went straight from your ISP to a US GOV DOD server
and i checked my own ISP and the guys from DSL Reports where i seen the story were right.. i was shocked !
And i am in Canada too !

So.. they own the starting point.. after that they just need the exit point under their control and a warrant can do that pretty easily.
they do basic cross referencing.

Your anon coin gimmick is bullshit.. sorry guys.

and you pedo's out there are being watched like a hawk.
the FBI traditionally do long term investigations that spawn many years..
the FBI's no .1 method is providing a false sense of security and giving people limitless time..
allowing them to spring incredible traps and web's of bait and honey pots etc.

TOR cheerleaders are dumb and don't know fuck all about computer shit !
They want you to have a false sense of security.. it gives them lots of evidence and guys get more and more ballsy and brazen with their bullshit.

There is a reason why there was a story i seen a few days ago where the Russain govt. setup a contest for a cash prize to Break TOR
because they don't hold the backbones and ISP and big corps under their control or hell even have working exploits for TOR too.
The USA does not need the system exploited they already own the front door and back door..
so when guys go in the front door they are tagged and that tag is matched when they walk out the back door.. cross referenced.
And they can do that because they have access to my first hop on a trace route etc and have NSA deals with Microsoft or anyone really.

so i have always just laughed at idiots who get cocky with their strong man in the middle concept.. a foolish false sense of security !
what is in the middle is irrelevant if you own and control what is on the outside.
stubborn dumb people fail to grasp this concept and cling to stupid logic for some odd reason.. no idea why
maybe they can't accept they have no privacy and that scares them too much so they have to lie to themselves to feel better ?

USA ? won't care.
Russian and everyone else on earth will LOVE to have a TOR crack lol
People using it ? ..idiots and i hope they aren't buying to much crack or ak's or child porn because you may get a knock on your door in 2 or 3 years lol

Anyway ;)
I read the story and it *seems to me they are using "cross referencing" in the exploit
and i said they could do that for years all over the web too.. so i am not surprised.
I did find it funny they mentioned the Black Hat Hackers conference in LA though..
I learned how to pwn routers from an FBI seminar / power point presentation with Free tools links etc,
at a past conference in LA there back in like 2006 roughly.. got me a lot of free internet over the years LOL

The same people thinking they are safe behind VPN's are just as dumb  ::)


Title: Re: Tor no longer anonymous -- network can be broken (source)
Post by: MaWo on August 01, 2014, 05:14:04 AM
Funny how many knew everything.


Title: Re: Tor no longer anonymous -- network can be broken (source)
Post by: Spoetnik on August 01, 2014, 07:28:12 AM
Funny how many knew everything.

i have said it endlessly all over so ya i did know.. it's called common sense.
i can't speak for anyone else but myself though ;)

if you had two cops.. one at your back door *watching and one at your front door watching you
what difference would it make if you had super duper mega secret tor hacks in the middle ? LOL
none..

sounds like you jealous..
i have heard that a lot.. if i say anything about my decades of hard work learning and my skills and accomplishments
it gets warped into an attack and i get told i am bragging.. and so what if i am ?
i earned it.. i worked my fucking ass off big time !
try a decade or two of sitting on your PC writing code or staring into a debugger / asm disassembly from dinner time to 4 or 5am.
that is what i have done on some projects for many months.. every day.

There was a line of LG cell phones i hacked and i actually still use to this day and i spent about 3 months
pounding the whore until she cracked wide open and all i heard form "the pros" online is it was a waste of time..
they said it was impossible to break because of DRM.
they were full of shit and i proved it by uploading a suite of programs with a windows gui to add unlimited pirated high profile games and apps to the phone.
called "LG Mobile Tools" coded in c++
also "they" were wrong there was essentially no DRM at all.. just more shit talk from blow hards lol

while i was at it i heard you can't change the meid so i hacked that too and i had two drastically different phones ring and receiving texts at the same time.
one was a Samsung and one was an LG and when i showed friends and family they were amused to say the least lol

sorry but i could go on and on about my accomplishments and yeah i guess i am bragging but so what.. i don't care what people think at all.
especially some kid getting jealous after school using moms laptop etc.
I was dominating on PC's long before half the coin cloners here were even born LOL

I think kids these days forget there is PC gods out there that do know everything and are living breathing "know it all's"
not everyone is some Tween who is a master at Reddit and Twitter etc

what i know is squat too because there is a loooooooot of hardcore experts out there.. where as i am a self taught wannabe who spent years at it.
the LG phone story would take real pros prob a week or two and me ? 3 months LOL
so i am not trying to come off like a big genius.. that would be Vlad and iGotSpots who both bragged about being Mensa genius's.
me ? i am just persistent.. i will have my victim no matter what  ;D

i wouldn't say what i just did if it wasn't for the fact that the only opinion that matters is my own.
i know damn well what the reaction will be and i couldn't care less. LOL


Title: Re: Tor no longer anonymous -- network can be broken (source)
Post by: Kprawn on August 01, 2014, 07:56:01 AM
ToR = Honey Trap

If you want to catch someone doing something illegal, target the place, where they try to hide.  ;)

If you keep away from illegal activities, you do not need to hide.

If you need privacy, close the curtains, when you having sex, and if you good at it, open the curtains wide.  ;D ;D

I do not trust any of these online services, advocating privacy any way.


Title: Re: Tor no longer anonymous -- network can be broken (source)
Post by: Harley997 on August 01, 2014, 08:51:04 AM
There will soon be an updated version of Tor which you can be anonymous again soon probably..


Title: Re: Tor no longer anonymous -- network can be broken (source)
Post by: life2you on August 01, 2014, 09:49:58 AM
So,this is the truth..coin with tor is useless.


Title: Re: Tor no longer anonymous -- network can be broken (source)
Post by: RedDiamond on August 01, 2014, 09:59:31 AM
This is like the Truecrypt news ! Its not safe anymore use our centralized NSA control shit please. Will you fall for their propaganda that fast ?

ya i seen a Truecrypt news headline about this a while back..
anyone using it needs to Google search the news story asap ! no joke !

You mean this: http://pastebin.com/9catw4X7 ?

Truecrypt is going to be rebranded and rewritten: https://truecrypt.ch/2014/06/serious-development-start-soon/



Title: Re: Tor no longer anonymous -- network can be broken (source)
Post by: ibfragalot2 on August 01, 2014, 11:24:09 AM
i get told i am bragging..
i don't care what people think at all.

 :D

try a decade or two of sitting on your PC writing code or staring into a debugger / asm disassembly from dinner time to 4 or 5am.

Ok, I get how you're a fully awesome super leet hax0r, there's no question in my mind whatsoever. But what I really want to hear about now is your super hot girlfriend  8)




Title: Re: Tor no longer anonymous -- network can be broken (source)
Post by: binkshurts on August 01, 2014, 04:35:25 PM
There will soon be an updated version of Tor which you can be anonymous again soon probably..

and then it'll be broken again.. all it takes is to be caught and flagged once.