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Title: SP30 Yukon Bitcoin: output in pools
Post by: themofofile2006 on August 06, 2014, 07:08:36 AM
I am planning to buy the upcoming sp30 yukon, batch 2.

http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/products/sp30-yukon-september-batch-2

What would be the payout in bitcoins per day in pools like p2pool, bitminter, or slush?


Title: Re: SP30 Yukon Bitcoin: output in pools
Post by: Collider on August 06, 2014, 07:26:54 AM
Are you asking for a recommendation of a certain pool or a payout / difficulty forecast for September?


Title: Re: SP30 Yukon Bitcoin: output in pools
Post by: RoadStress on August 06, 2014, 07:28:24 AM
I am planning to buy the upcoming sp30 yukon, batch 2.

http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/products/sp30-yukon-september-batch-2

What would be the payout in bitcoins per day in pools like p2pool, bitminter, or slush?

Nobody can give you a straight answer for that. Pool payouts depend on the pool's luck. Also the difficulty is important when it comes to bitcoin payouts and since we can't predict the September difficulty we can't give you an answer for that.

For example now at 18 bil diff you could be making 0.12BTC/day. At 30 bil diff you could make 0.075BTC/day.


Title: Re: SP30 Yukon Bitcoin: output in pools
Post by: sergio on August 06, 2014, 07:41:26 AM
I am planning to buy the upcoming sp30 yukon, batch 2.

http://www.spondoolies-tech.com/products/sp30-yukon-september-batch-2

What would be the payout in bitcoins per day in pools like p2pool, bitminter, or slush?

I do not recommend buying the only reason but a powerful one, is that it is a pre order purchase.

In the bitcoin economy it is hard to predict the future, and that is exactly what you have to do with a pre-order, 90% of the time the miners get burned only on very rare occasions they win.

I recommend waiting until it sells from stock if it ever does, and then run a calculator such as

 http://www.vnbitcoin.org/bitcoincalculator.php

or
https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/calculator

and calculate if you ROI in 45 days, if you want to take some risk then 60 days, over 60 days the risk is very big and you could not ROI or only break even after several months/years of mining.


As of now none ROI below 60 days, and that includes the antminer S3, if in doubt use the calculator, the calculator will be your best friend.

Either of the above calculators should work and the results will be near identical.

As for mining pool use p2pool  best payout, however it takes longer for the payout and must leave your miners running 24/7, if lots of people use it the part where it takes longer for the payout may change.


Using a calculator on a pre order does not work well since you have to speculate on the difficulty increase and that is where most fail, also in the past BFL has been over a year late on deliveries, cointerra, knc and most of the other ones have been late with no compensations, some like avalon have failed all together, so any pre order is high risk.

Even on spondoolies it is high risk if you read the forum the SP30 was expected initially to be lower consumption and have a higher hash rate, it is my understanding that there was a compensation for the lower hash rate but not for the higher energy consumption, and of course refunds were out of the question.





Title: Re: SP30 Yukon Bitcoin: output in pools
Post by: Tupsu on August 06, 2014, 09:31:58 AM
Better to buy right now 10 antminer S3

ANTMINER S3 -B6   Shipping Date is on August 12. Price:      0.66 BTC  x 10=6.60 BTC

https://bitmaintech.com/product.htm


Title: Re: SP30 Yukon Bitcoin: output in pools
Post by: Collider on August 06, 2014, 09:41:52 AM
There are pros and cons for both miners.

Antminers ship faster but use more power and you need to add PSU costs, and you will likely have a mess of cables.

Sp30s use less power and take up less space, no additional PSUs required, but they ship later (as they are sold out for this month) and are more noisy.
This makes the sp30 cheap to host for example at jtoomim´s facility for 90-70$/kW/m.


Title: Re: SP30 Yukon Bitcoin: output in pools
Post by: RoadStress on August 06, 2014, 11:24:30 AM
There are pros and cons for both miners.

Antminers ship faster but use more power and you need to add PSU costs, and you will likely have a mess of cables.

Sp30s use less power and take up less space, no additional PSUs required, but they ship later (as they are sold out for this month) and are more noisy.
This makes the sp30 cheap to host for example at jtoomim´s facility for 90-70$/kW/m.


Also you can underclock the SP30 to run just at 4Th/s and consuming just 2300W.