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Bitcoin => Mining support => Topic started by: G1rr on August 07, 2014, 02:23:40 PM



Title: Over 50% HW Errors
Post by: G1rr on August 07, 2014, 02:23:40 PM
Hello everyone,

I never really payed attention to the HW errors on my miner. But while setting up my own Mining with Raspbian I noticed that I got over 70% HW Errors. Then I switched to Minera (http://getminera.com/) yesterday I noticed that I still got over 50% HW Errors even though I use
Code:
--icarus-options 115200:1:1 --icarus-timing 3.0=100 --rock-freq 290
on my cgminer, I tried bfgminer but I didn't even get near my max hash rate.

My Rig:
Raspberry Pi with Minera OS
2x RockMiner R-Box
4x ASICMiner Block Erupter USB
CGMiner v4.5.0

Output cgminer:
Code:
 cgminer version 4.5.0 - Started: [2014-08-07 13:12:14]
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 (5s):65.17G (1m):70.57G (5m):70.63G (15m):71.15G (avg):71.48Gh/s
 A:179138  R:3216  HW:3570  WU:998.7/m | ST: 8  SS: 0  NB: 14  LW: 194354  GF: 0  RF: 0
 Connected to stratum.bitcoin.cz diff 67 with stratum as user Fredling.Minera
 Block: c805266c...  Diff:18.7G  Started: [16:13:21]  Best share: 5.16M
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 [U]SB management [P]ool management [S]ettings [D]isplay options [Q]uit
 0: AMU 0       :                         | 333.9M / 333.2Mh/s WU:  4.7/m A: 1037 R:   0 HW:   4
 1: AMU 1       :                         | 333.1M / 333.0Mh/s WU:  4.5/m A: 1238 R:   0 HW:   6
 2: AMU 2       :                         | 335.4M / 332.6Mh/s WU:  4.8/m A:  900 R:   0 HW:  11
 3: AMU 3       :                         | 334.6M / 333.2Mh/s WU:  4.6/m A:  804 R:   0 HW:  10
 4: LIN 0       : 290MHz  44C             | 32.87G / 35.03Gh/s WU:489.4/m A:84266 R:2680 HW:3183
 5: LIN 1       : 290MHz  42C             | 34.15G / 35.16Gh/s WU:491.2/m A:90893 R: 536 HW: 356
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

and here is a screenshot of the Minera Dashboard

http://devvsbugs.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/dashboard-1024x508.png

It runs fine but like you can see I got many HW Errors.

How cgminer is started:
Code:
/usr/bin/screen -dmS cgminer /var/www/minera/minera-bin/cgminer --icarus-options 115200:1:1 --icarus-timing 3.0=100 --rock-freq 290 -c /var/www/minera/conf/miner_conf.json

and my conf file:
Code:
{
    "api-listen": true,
    "api-allow": "W:127.0.0.1",
    "scan": "all",
    "log-file": "\/var\/log\/minera\/cgminer.log",
    "pools": [
        {
            "url": "stratum.bitcoin.cz:3333",
            "user": "",
            "pass": ""
        },
        {
            "url": "stratum+tcp:\/\/multi.ghash.io:3333",
            "user": "michelem.minera",
            "pass": "x"
        }
    ]
}

is there any way to fix this?


Title: Re: Over 50% HW Errors
Post by: DumDumz on August 07, 2014, 02:28:59 PM
maybe your HW OverHeat .


Title: Re: Over 50% HW Errors
Post by: G1rr on August 07, 2014, 02:40:13 PM
maybe your HW OverHeat .

44°C max so far and I don't think this is all it needs to overheat?!


Title: Re: Over 50% HW Errors
Post by: hotwired007 on August 07, 2014, 02:45:54 PM
Do you have a fan blowing on the block erupters? If not they will be incredibly hot...


Title: Re: Over 50% HW Errors
Post by: fire000 on August 07, 2014, 03:34:46 PM
just a quick look at this it the 2x RockMiner R-Box that are the problem not the asic erupters just off the sreenshots


Title: Re: Over 50% HW Errors
Post by: G1rr on August 07, 2014, 03:42:01 PM
hmm I hope it's only a display error because while monitoring the screen output on console
Code:
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 [U]SB management [P]ool management [S]ettings [D]isplay options [Q]uit
 0: AMU 0       :                         | 334.0M / 330.0Mh/s WU:  4.4/m A:  489 R:   0 HW:   9
 1: AMU 1       :                         | 333.4M / 331.5Mh/s WU:  4.9/m A:  598 R:   0 HW:   5
 2: AMU 2       :                         | 200.6M / 330.7Mh/s WU:  4.3/m A:  301 R:   0 HW:   7
 3: AMU 3       :                         | 334.0M / 332.9Mh/s WU:  4.3/m A:   64 R:   0 HW:   0
 4: LIN 0       : 290MHz  44C             | 34.08G / 34.59Gh/s WU:483.2/m A:37865 R:1201 HW:1438
 5: LIN 1       : 290MHz  42C             | 33.28G / 35.13Gh/s WU:490.8/m A:37399 R: 454 HW: 170
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

the HW value seems pretty low in camparison to the Accepted value


Title: Re: Over 50% HW Errors
Post by: fire000 on August 07, 2014, 03:44:37 PM
without knowing much about the RockMiner R-Box here I am guessing the "--rock-freq 290"   is some type of chip clock setting ????   If so maybe play with that setting and dropping it back....

Line of thinking the more ya OC the harder the unit works throwing more HW errors....    <<<<  just thinking of antminers I know with them the more ya OC them the higher the HW are


Title: Re: Over 50% HW Errors
Post by: G1rr on August 07, 2014, 04:09:41 PM
without knowing much about the RockMiner R-Box here I am guessing the "--rock-freq 290"   is some type of chip clock setting ????   If so maybe play with that setting and dropping it back....

Line of thinking the more ya OC the harder the unit works throwing more HW errors....    <<<<  just thinking of antminers I know with them the more ya OC them the higher the HW are

retried without --rock-freq 290 and got like half the hashrate and 47% HW errors


Title: Re: Over 50% HW Errors
Post by: -ck on August 11, 2014, 01:21:24 PM
Code:
--icarus-options 115200:1:1 --icarus-timing 3.0=100 --rock-freq 290


Please please please don't use icarus options, they're designed for an fpga that hasn't been used in 2 years. If you see any documentation anywhere recommending you use them on a modern device on the current official cgminer, the advice is outright wrong. Even the use of icarus timing is misguided. Just remove them.

Code:
 4: LIN 0       : 290MHz  44C             | 32.87G / 35.03Gh/s WU:489.4/m A:84266 R:2680 HW:3183
 5: LIN 1       : 290MHz  42C             | 34.15G / 35.16Gh/s WU:491.2/m A:90893 R: 536 HW: 356
is there any way to fix this?
Your hardware error rate for LIN0 is 3183 / (84266 + 2680 + 3183) which is 3.5% and nothing to worry about, and much lower for LIN1. Your problem is your monitoring software is broken and reporting nonsense, not your devices or cgminer. You are overclocking them a bit though, but provided they're still producing good shares, even 5% HW errors are nothing to worry about.


Title: Re: Over 50% HW Errors
Post by: G1rr on August 11, 2014, 07:24:51 PM
Code:
--icarus-options 115200:1:1 --icarus-timing 3.0=100 --rock-freq 290


Please please please don't use icarus options, they're designed for an fpga that hasn't been used in 2 years. If you see any documentation anywhere recommending you use them on a modern device on the current official cgminer, the advice is outright wrong. Even the use of icarus timing is misguided. Just remove them.

Code:
 4: LIN 0       : 290MHz  44C             | 32.87G / 35.03Gh/s WU:489.4/m A:84266 R:2680 HW:3183
 5: LIN 1       : 290MHz  42C             | 34.15G / 35.16Gh/s WU:491.2/m A:90893 R: 536 HW: 356
is there any way to fix this?
Your hardware error rate for LIN0 is 3183 / (84266 + 2680 + 3183) which is 3.5% and nothing to worry about, and much lower for LIN1. Your problem is your monitoring software is broken and reporting nonsense, not your devices or cgminer. You are overclocking them a bit though, but provided they're still producing good shares, even 5% HW errors are nothing to worry about.

thank you, i notified the minera guys of this error ...