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Hi,

Just out of curiosity, I wanted to see the very first posts by Satoshi Nakamoto, and the post when he says "Good bye".  And it looks like it's impossible?

Firsts posts here look like quite advanced for me. Looks like the discussion started somewhere else, and indeed, in his first post on this forum ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5.msg28#msg28 ) he says:


But the sourceforge.net forum page displays 404 error. So are the first posts lost forever? :(

And then, his last post here : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2228.msg29479#msg29479

Looks like he was quite active in the last days of December 2010. And he suddenly disappeared? Without any information, "good bye" or something? Or am I missing something?

He came back to say: "I am not Dorian Nakamoto" on March 7, 2014
http://p2pfoundation.ning.com/profile/SatoshiNakamoto

Who knows one day he will be known but I like it the way it is: a mysterious myth.

Yes, I know about it. But I was thinking about leaving this forum by him in the end of 2010.

Edit: Me too, I don't really want to know who he is. It's just about his first and last post anywhere.

The Nakamoto Institute may have information that interests you. A copy of the first posts of Satoshi discussing bitcoin.

Thanks! I didn't know about it. Interesting initiative.

There's also a book:

http://www.bookofsatoshi.com/

That's interesting too, but paying for a book about a man who created Bitcoin sounds strange for me:)

Why? Do you have an idea how much work it is to write a book? It can take months or even years and the author taking a risk that it won't sell. I think we're too spoiled by free offers and holistic ideas, a man has got to pay the rent.

Yes, the same thought came to my mind seconds after I wrote my post:). You're right.

His first posts are in the Staff Forum, that's why you can't see them. But theymos posted pdf files here:

Thanks!

But his very very first posts, probably not on this forum, aren't available? I mean, I'm wondering how the first Bitcoin adopters discovered it. I read somewhere that it was on some kind of a cryptography-related discussion group or IRC, do you know something about it?

@Eal F. Skillz

Your post pointed me to http://sourceforge.net/p/bitcoin/mailman/bitcoin-list/ ( first post 2009-01-30 02:39:29 ) - it's a good start. But where it really started?

This is the link:

http://satoshi.nakamotoinstitute.org/emails/cryptography/

^^^This. It did not start in forum post. It started in an email to the cryptographic mailing list.

Yes, I've seen it (thanks coin.cat), but... still I can't find the ultimate answer (except of course 42) to my question - how and where did early developers find Bitcoin. OK, so they were subscribed to a mailing list, how did they find it? And... is it really all?

Edit: Mailing lists? In 2008?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Book-Satoshi-Collected-Writings-Nakamoto-ebook/dp/B00M6KGJ2K/ref=sr_1_2/277-4535647-1549048?ie=UTF8&qid=1407493027&sr=8-2&keywords=The+Book+Of+Satoshi

Cypherpunks
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cypherpunk

Uh... the early users found out from those posts in the cryptography mailing list. Those posts were the first mention of bitcoin ever. One of the repliers to that initial post was Hal Finney (who is also a famous cryptographer) who in turn was the first person to receive a payment via bitcoin, satoshi sent him 10BTC.

Yes, people still use mailing lists even today. That cryptography mailing list is still popular today. They had been discussing ideas for virtual currencies similar to bitcoin on that mailing list since 1998 hence why it was the perfect place to show it off.

The goodbye post? There really wasn't one. This is the closest thing:


Wikileaks started accepting bitcoin and bitcoin started getting media coverage because of it.

Seems like he didn't like all the attention and decided to leave.

I wonder how much his account is worth if sold on this forum.

Thanks! I've seen this article before, but I read only 2 first paragraphs:)

@ForgottenPassword

OK, so I understand the beginnings now. Thanks.


What bothers me, he didn't say "good bye" after so many years:) But OK, it's one of the mysteries of him.

I can't be 100% sure on this, but I think he did say "goodbye" in a private email to bitcoin developer Gavin Andressen who took his place as lead developer after he left. I can't for the life of me find where I read that, but from what I remember he said he was going to start "working on other things".

Thanks.

other things = world peace. solved in 2015  :P
satoshi loves big adventures.

Didn't you here that this was not him and someone duplicated an account and acted like it was him. I forgot exactlty who and how it was done but it was not him

satoshi kept his identity a secret far before the 2009 launch of bitcoin. even in late 2008 before the white paper he was already using anonymous email (satoshi@vistomail.com)

so who says he didnt say hello in october 2008 or goodbye in december 2010. he just didnt do it publicly

You guys keep talking about him as if he is just 1 person.  Satoshi isn't one person, they are many.  You don't think someone would have found "1" person by now....I call complete BS.

Look at the code and how he spoke on forums and you will realize there are multiple people behind it.

I agree, it is likely multiple people. Do we even know for sure that "he" is the right gender term?

Any evidence that he was more than one person? If he was really smart (which he (or they) was) and wanted to cover your identity you would throw in different writing styles to throw people off and keep guessing.

I have no idea whether he is one person or several, but I like the enigma behind him. I like to think he was just fucking with people as well hehe. I wonder if he or they will ever get outed or exposed? Not sure whether it would be a good  or bad idea to be honest.

How the hell did I not know about this, that's brilliant.

+1

He/they would probably use not-so-perfect english from time to time, like my english for example:)

I think if he was one person someone would have been able to find him and dox him.  

Of course there is no evidence that he isn't just 1 person, just all the signs point to him not being one.  You wouldn't blatantly write in your code 2 different spellings of the same word because you think"I am going to try and throw people off" You would do it because one person spells it differently than the other..

Or he could actually be really just one person. No one knows for sure. Everything is speculation.

Forgive me my english.

I'm still a newbie here. I registered in February this year, but then I had other things to do.

Nevertheless I remember there were hundreds of discussions about who Satoshi is, is he he or/her or a group.

I didn't mean to start yet another discussion like this.  All I wanted to know was where it started (I got it now) and where it ended (and why, I got that too).

But since these old questions raised again, I would like to ask a bit more precise questions. Personally I believe this is one person. For one reason: (once again, forgive me my english): a secret hold by more than a few people is no secret anymore. I mean,  @leex1528 said:
Why the hell do you thinks so? It's the opposite! If there were more people involved, more people would knew about it, and the chances that someboy would speak up would be greater.

Again  @leex1528:

Now, to be precise, can you point me to the parts of the code you're talking about? I did see the code (first versions) and I just can't see what you're talking about. And what about the way he spoke on the forums? I've heard many times the opposite - that his writing style is quite the same all the time. Of course, with my english skill it's impossible for me to judge, but again, if you say what you say, why not give some examples?

@gtraah:

Well, there was a theory like this, as always. But no proofs whatsoever. So it's just a theory, nothing more. He didn't sign his message with his PGP, so what? If somebody took control over his account, I believe he/she would make many stupid posts, not just one after so many years, don't you think? But it doesn't matter.

I like to imagine that he still roams this forum from time to time for a giggle  :D
Maybe as a newbie, perhaps even posting on occasion all the while reveling in the subtleties of anonymity.
With all the millions he got from his invention though, he probably got a ton of cooler things to do  :)

I really wonder whether he's still working on something. May it be Bitcoin related, maybe another Cryptocurrency, or maybe something completely different and new! He potentially is a genius and I'm very interested in what may still lay ahead of us!