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Title: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on August 10, 2014, 04:59:28 PM
http://i59.tinypic.com/241mkbn.png



Hi,

We launched kryptologika.com (https://kryptologika.com/) last Friday for the Polish market. In a moment our website will be available also in English for the wider community ;)
We have competitive prices, reasonable maintenance fees and lots of TH/s to share with you! We are also promoting investing in physical silver, each TH/s is backed by 1 Oz of pure silver in the form of bullion coins (1GH/s = 0.001 Oz).

Should you need any further information just ask in this topic or e-mail us on info@kryptologika.pl

Kryptologika Team




How does it work?

Using the services of the platform is simple and instant.

Registration on the platform in beta version requires a login, password, e-mail address and name. Once you confirm your email with an activation link sent to you, you will receive an account and deposit address. After transferring bitcoins you can buy and sell GH/s for the prices offered on the market. A price and volume chart is visible on the main page. Mining of bitcoins with  acquired hashing power will start almost immediately with the next solved block following the purchase of the shares. You can make an offer to sell the shares on the market at any time. In both cases they are a source of bitcoins corresponding to the amount of GH/s minus the maintenance costs and changes in difficulty over time.
 
At this stage in beta version it is only possible to buy and sell shares for bitcoins. In the nearest future buying shares will be made ​​available for PLN, EUR, GBP and USD payable by bank transfer or by another payment processors.
 
Each power unit has unlimited time operation and has is protected by a "Residual value" liquidation of which will occur when the growth of computing power of the bitcoin network will result in no profit from mining due to costs of maintenance. The residual value is 0.0311 grams of silver for every GH/sec owned,that is one ounce of silver for 1 terahash (equal to 1,000GH/s). The value of the hashing power thus will never fall to zero and will correspond to the market value of silver at the time of redemption of the share. Settlement of the residual value will be made ​​no later than 30 days after the redemption of shares and may be made either in the form of a consignment of easily recognizable silver bullion coins to the address specified by the user or a settlement in bitcoins based on COMEX prices.
 
We invite everyone to read Terms & Conditions.
 
If you have any questions or concerns, please contact us at one of the following e-mail addresses:info@kryptologika.pl or support@kryptologika.pl


Fees:

Purchase / sale of shares  -  0%

Maintenance fee - 0.01175 PLN/Ghs per day
GBP 0.002255/Ghs per day (@ GBP 1.00 = 5.2149PLN approx. NBP av. exchange daily rate)
EUR 0.002804/Ghs per day (@ EUR 1.00 = 4.18PLN approx. NBP av. exchange daily rate)
USD 0.003755/Ghs per day (@ USD 1.00 = 3.1285PLN approx. NBP av. exchange daily rate)

Transaction fee for transfer of bitcoins to an external address - 0.0002BTC



*NBP= Polish National Bank

Technical Information on calculating awards:

When a block is mined, the system will determine an award and credit it to your account.
Awards for the block will be credited to your account after fifteen confirmations from the Bitcoin network
Each user’s award for the block is calculated using the formula:
Owned shares * block time * 1000 * block reward * 1014/ 232*difficulty
There is a maintenance fee that is deducted from the award generated by the shares
The fee for the maintenance of the shares is calculated using the formula:
Owned shares * Base fee per second * time in seconds * 108 / average price during block
Calculation and payout of awards for the block is delayed about  2.5 hours due to the time required to fully get block confirmed by the network.
Any balance of BTC is exact to one satoshi (10-8BTC)
Award and fee amounts are rounded to the nearest satoshi, downward for block rewards, and up for fees.
Awards and fees are processed with accuracy to the nearest second.
When shares are transacted, the new balance will be calculated within the next second after user confirmation.
The maintenance fee is calculated in PLN and charged in BTC.
The conversion rate is calculated using the  daily average rate of exchange BTC/PLN at bitcurex.com


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on August 12, 2014, 08:17:26 AM
Other threads involving discussion about the platform:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=723092.40


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: Reclaim3r on August 12, 2014, 05:54:20 PM
http://i59.tinypic.com/241mkbn.png



Hi,

We launched kryptologika.com (https://kryptologika.com/) last Friday for the Polish market. In a moment our website will be available also in English for the wider community ;)
We have competitive prices, reasonable maintenance fees and lots of TH/s to share with you! We are also promoting investing in physical silver, each TH/s is backed by 1 Oz of pure silver in the form of bullion coins (1GH/s = 0.001 Oz).

Should you need any further information just ask in this topic or e-mail us on info@kryptologika.pl

Kryptologika Team





How does it work?

Using the services of the platform is simple and instant.

Registration on the platform in beta version requires a login, password, e-mail address and name. Once you confirm your email with an activation link sent to you, you will receive an account and deposit address. After transferring bitcoins you can buy and sell GH/s for the prices offered on the market. A price and volume chart is visible on the main page. Mining of bitcoins with  acquired hashing power will start almost immediately with the next solved block following the purchase of the shares. You can make an offer to sell the shares on the market at any time. In both cases they are a source of bitcoins corresponding to the amount of GH/s minus the maintenance costs and changes in difficulty over time.
 
At this stage in beta version it is only possible to buy and sell shares for bitcoins. In the nearest future buying shares will be made ​​available for PLN, EUR, GBP and USD payable by bank transfer or by another payment processors.
 
Each power unit has unlimited time operation and has is protected by a "Residual value" liquidation of which will occur when the growth of computing power of the bitcoin network will result in no profit from mining due to costs of maintenance. The residual value is 0.0311 grams of silver for every GH/sec owned,that is one ounce of silver for 1 terahash (equal to 1,000GH/s). The value of the hashing power thus will never fall to zero and will correspond to the market value of silver at the time of redemption of the share. Settlement of the residual value will be made ​​no later than 30 days after the redemption of shares and may be made either in the form of a consignment of easily recognizable silver bullion coins to the address specified by the user or a settlement in bitcoins based on COMEX prices.
 
We invite everyone to read Terms & Conditions.
 
If you have any questions or concerns, please contact us at one of the following e-mail addresses:info@kryptologika.pl or support@kryptologika.pl


Fees:

Purchase / sale of shares  -  0%

Maintenance fee  -  0.01175PLN/GH/s per day
GBP 0.00222/Ghs per day (@ GBP 1.00 = 5.288PLN approx. NBP av. exchange daily rate)
EUR 0.003573/Ghs per day ( @ EUR 1.00 = 4.199PLN approx. NBP av. exchange daily rate )
USD 0.00375/Ghs per day (@ USD1.00 = 3.13PLN approx. NBP av. exchange daily rate)

Transaction fee for transfer of bitcoins to an external address - 0.0002BTC



*NBP= Polish National Bank

Technical Information on calculating awards:

When a block is mined, the system will determine an award and credit it to your account.
Awards for the block will be credited to your account after fifteen confirmations from the Bitcoin network
Each user’s award for the block is calculated using the formula:
Owned shares * block time * 1000 * block reward * 1014/ 232*difficulty
There is a maintenance fee that is deducted from the award generated by the shares
The fee for the maintenance of the shares is calculated using the formula:
Owned shares * Base fee per second * time in seconds * 108 / average price during block
Calculation and payout of awards for the block is delayed about  2.5 hours due to the time required to fully get block confirmed by the network.
Any balance of BTC is exact to one satoshi (10-8BTC)
Award and fee amounts are rounded to the nearest satoshi, downward for block rewards, and up for fees.
Awards and fees are processed with accuracy to the nearest second.
When shares are transacted, the new balance will be calculated within the next second after user confirmation.
The maintenance fee is calculated in PLN and charged in BTC.
The conversion rate is calculated using the  daily average rate of exchange BTC/PLN at bitcurex.com

Kryptologika seems like a great alternative to CEX.io, but I'm somewhat concerned over its legitimacy.
Would you be willing to provide photographs of the mining facility?


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on August 12, 2014, 06:17:27 PM
Hiya

Yes I am working on it. This is just a technical issue, someone needs to go to the DC take kryptologika logo and take the pictures. Please understand that we are not in one place.

I am unsure if I will be able to provide photos with kryptologika logo from the Chinese DC. It depends on the person who is in charge there but I will do my best.

At the moment we have a bit less than 3TH available on the platform on ASK. I am happy to provide a link up to this amount or more if this would satisfy the other people scrutinizing kryptologika here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=723092.msg8308636#msg8308636

Their list is somewhat longer I will provide also photos of the coins along with kryptologika logo;)

I will update this thread shortly.




Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: Reclaim3r on August 12, 2014, 06:27:27 PM
Hiya

Yes I am working on it. This is just a technical issue, someone needs to go to the DC tak kryptologika logo and tak the pictures. Please understand that we are not in one place.

I am unsure if I will be able to provide photos with kryptologika logo from the Chinese DC. It depends on the person who is in charge there but I will do my best.

At the moment we have a bit less than 3TH available on the platform on ASK. I am happy to provide a link up to this amount or more if this would satisfy the other people scrutinizing kryptologika here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=723092.msg8308636#msg8308636

Their list is somewhat longer I will provide also photos of the coins along with kryptologika logo;)

I will update this thread shortly.




Ah, okay. Now as for the founders of Kryptologika, would it be possible to see some LinkedIn profiles or some form of professional proof?
And what mining hardware are you using? From the available graphic data, it appears to be spaciously placed Block Erupter Blades with heavy duty heatsinks.
I'm also still somewhat confused as to how the GH\s can be backed by silver.



Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on August 12, 2014, 06:59:46 PM
Well I am not prepared to send my linkedin data here. I can PM it exclusively for you and you can confirm in public that you have seen it. Is that ok?
The mining equipment consists of Jupiters, Neptunes and Dragons T1. I will provide you with photos tomorrow.

Residual value is to protect 1 GH/s of our mining undertaking to fall to complete zero. I cannot predict how much BTC price would be in a year or two, what difficulty will be or what price of silver would be. However if all falls to pieces one day (following a giant spike in prices!) we will have plenty of physical silver I am happy to send or settle via bitcoin. I has been explained in How it works on the website.  It is just a protection and good investment incentive which I believe makes our product unique and attractive.


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: Reclaim3r on August 12, 2014, 07:04:27 PM
Well I am not prepared to send my linkedin data here. I can PM it exclusively for you and you can confirm in public that you have seen it. Is that ok?
The mining equipment consists of Jupiters, Neptunes and Dragons T1. I will provide you with photos tomorrow.


Very well. Thank you very much for being so cooperative. I hope to confirm the legitimacy of Kryptologika and eventually even invest in it if so.


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on August 12, 2014, 07:53:14 PM
link sent via PM


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: OgNasty on August 12, 2014, 08:24:12 PM
Interesting project.  Good luck!  I was planning something similar but you beat me to it by about a month!


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on August 12, 2014, 08:29:33 PM
Old good Nastyfans ;)
Well I have had a very good time with you I will never forget !
I think silver protected GH/s would be a new standard. You think where from the inspiration came?
Cheers!


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: Reclaim3r on August 12, 2014, 09:51:01 PM
Thank you for providing me with the necessary information.

Anyway, the photos regarding your mining hardware / center can be from anywhere as long as it shows proof that the hardware is under your control and is real.


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on August 12, 2014, 09:52:34 PM
Will be provided no problem.


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: Reclaim3r on August 12, 2014, 09:55:29 PM
Will be provided no problem.

Alright, thank you. Afterwards, I would be happy to post to my blog that you are a legitimate business as well as this and other threads.


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on August 13, 2014, 11:53:21 AM
Some mining hardcore porn....  ;D

http://www.pictureshack.us/thumbs/99187_IMG_3130.JPG (http://www.pictureshack.us/view_99187_IMG_3130.JPG)

http://www.pictureshack.us/thumbs/14823_IMG_3135.JPG (http://www.pictureshack.us/view_14823_IMG_3135.JPG)

http://www.pictureshack.us/thumbs/78804_IMG_3134.JPG (http://www.pictureshack.us/view_78804_IMG_3134.JPG)

http://www.pictureshack.us/thumbs/23226_IMG_3126.JPG (http://www.pictureshack.us/view_23226_IMG_3126.JPG)

http://www.pictureshack.us/thumbs/43173_IMG_3139.JPG (http://www.pictureshack.us/view_43173_IMG_3139.JPG)


I have more pics if you want but you see.... The whole mining operation does not look too good for someone with high estethics expectations. It is however very costs effective. Note suspended PSU's which makes better airflow. There are 2 huge fans sucking air from one end and pushing it out at the other end.  
I will post the pics from our Chinese DC shortly.


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: bitgeek on August 13, 2014, 02:03:39 PM
Wires everywhere :D

Are you planning to continue using KNC hardware? Their reputation has seen better days.


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on August 13, 2014, 02:14:35 PM
No absolutely not! KnC is history.

I will be able to produce  pics from the Chinese DC where we are hosting as well.

We have however some more hardware to be sent by KnC, probably at the end of the month and it will be used for mining as well.


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: Reclaim3r on August 13, 2014, 02:19:30 PM
It doesn't necessarily have to be aesthetically pleasing  :)
As long as it has good airflow and will work efficiently suits me.

I'd like to give a message to the community saying that I have fully confirmed l3sny's identity as well as his business as legitimate.
I think I am now comfortable to invest in Kryptologika and I encourage the rest of the community to, if willing, do so.

Thank you very much for the cooperation l3sny!  :)


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on August 13, 2014, 02:28:26 PM
Thank you. We have now to move the prices down a bit... ;)



Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: Reclaim3r on August 13, 2014, 02:40:27 PM
Awesome  :) I might as well trade a few of my BTSX for BTC  :D


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on August 13, 2014, 02:56:00 PM
All we need now is to spread the word ;)

I can disclose now, that we will be reducing the maintenance fees. A very little amount at this stage as we still have no decent client base however we want to offer something to our new customers.

I will let you know in 48-72 hrs what the new maintenance fee will be.

I hope that you can see that we are cheaper and better option than the well known three letter cloud hashing platform ;)


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: Reclaim3r on August 13, 2014, 03:29:17 PM
All we need now is to spread the word ;)

I can disclose now, that we will be reducing the maintenance fees. A very little amount at this stage as we still have no decent client base however we want to offer something to our new customers.

I will let you know in 48-72 hrs what the new maintenance fee will be.

I hope that you can see that we are cheaper and better option than the well known three letter cloud hashing platform ;)

I'll remember to blog about it  :)

As long as the maintenance fee is lower then CEX.io, I think you'll be fine
Looking forward to it!


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: johny08 on August 13, 2014, 05:40:41 PM
very nice. is the payout daily or weekly?


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on August 13, 2014, 05:46:57 PM
The payout is instant for every block. You just have to wait max 2hrs after you buy. Please read How it works
or just buy 1 GH/s and see.

Perhaps you could drop a line after 24-48hrs?

There is no volume basically as we still have very few users. The more people the better trading so spread the word ;)


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: bbxx on August 14, 2014, 12:13:23 AM
i can confirm that lesny has done few big group buys, he is very known at polish bitcoin community.
I had few deals with him, all smooth.



Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: *Sakura* on August 15, 2014, 03:45:13 PM
It seems a good project. Will watch and may be looking to buy shares.


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: animalroam on August 15, 2014, 05:08:29 PM
Hmm, interesting to see something silver backed hash.  I see some potential problems with that but hopefully all goes well :).  I may buy some soon.


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on August 15, 2014, 05:37:30 PM
Thanks for the feedback. There are many potential problems. Which ones are of your concern?


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: 2112 on August 15, 2014, 07:28:13 PM
Spam marketing via PM:
Hi 2112

We launched kryptologika.com last week for the Polish market. Now our website is available also in English for the wider community Wink
We have competitive prices, reasonable maintenance fees and lots of TH/s to share with you! We are also promoting investing in physical silver, each TH/s is backed by 1 Oz of pure silver in the form of bullion coins (1GH/s = 0.001 Oz).
Perhaps you can check our thread on bitcointalk and leave your feedback?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=732733.msg8329115#msg8329115

Many thanks


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on August 15, 2014, 07:34:15 PM
Spam marketing via PM:
Hi 2112

We launched kryptologika.com last week for the Polish market. Now our website is available also in English for the wider community Wink
We have competitive prices, reasonable maintenance fees and lots of TH/s to share with you! We are also promoting investing in physical silver, each TH/s is backed by 1 Oz of pure silver in the form of bullion coins (1GH/s = 0.001 Oz).
Perhaps you can check our thread on bitcointalk and leave your feedback?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=732733.msg8329115#msg8329115

Many thanks

Such a bad word.... no it is not spam. It is an opportunity to discuss the project ;)

some further discussion regarding this:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=20333.msg8380214#msg8380214


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: kingscrown on August 16, 2014, 02:12:41 PM
lets see where it gets! looks interesting


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on August 16, 2014, 09:26:13 PM
2014-08-16
Price min/max, open/close:
0.002308 - 0.00230918, 0.00230918 - 0.002308

We will be reducing maintenance fees by 2% with effect starting from 01/09/2014.

Currently maintenance fees are:

Maintenance fee - 0.01175 PLN/Ghs per day
GBP 0.002255/Ghs per day (@ GBP 1.00 = 5.2149PLN approx. NBP av. exchange daily rate)
EUR 0.002804/Ghs per day (@ EUR 1.00 = 4.18PLN approx. NBP av. exchange daily rate)
USD 0.003755/Ghs per day (@ USD 1.00 = 3.1285PLN approx. NBP av. exchange daily rate)

Happy trading!


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on August 17, 2014, 05:56:34 PM
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Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: BitcoinLady on August 18, 2014, 02:24:53 AM
This is our futuristic vision of kryptologika  :)

http://i44.tinypic.com/r22l4p.jpg

http://i40.tinypic.com/16a5jcz.jpg

MesserArtStudio


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on August 18, 2014, 09:56:58 PM
2014-08-18
Price min/max, open/close:
0.00229 - 0.00229, 0.00229 - 0.00229

Another trading day behind us ;)


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on August 19, 2014, 01:05:34 PM
We have a short break for maintenance. It does not affect hashing. We will be back on-line as soon as possible.
edit: we're up and running


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: forcrypto on August 20, 2014, 04:40:01 AM
Why is the maintenance fees keeps on increasing?  New receiving around 33% of what I am mining.


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on August 20, 2014, 06:38:43 AM
Why is the maintenance fees keeps on increasing?  New receiving around 33% of what I am mining.

Maintenance fees is cocstructed exactly in the same way as paying bills for your miner at home. if bitcoin price goes higher the smaller amount of what you are mining is being deducted to pay the bills. If bitcoin price goes down mining is obviusly less profitable as the bigger portion goes to cover electricity costs.

Currently monthly costs of maintenance at kryptologikais around $0.11 per GH/s per month which is significantly lower than elswhere.

We will be reducing our maintenance costs by 2% starting from 01 September.


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on August 20, 2014, 07:43:06 AM
2014-08-19
Price min/max, open/close:
0.00229 - 0.0023, 0.00229 - 0.0023

Another thread involvig kryptologika
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=739510.40;topicseen


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: forcrypto on August 20, 2014, 09:01:06 PM
Why is the maintenance fees keeps on increasing?  New receiving around 33% of what I am mining.

Maintenance fees is cocstructed exactly in the same way as paying bills for your miner at home. if bitcoin price goes higher the smaller amount of what you are mining is being deducted to pay the bills. If bitcoin price goes down mining is obviusly less profitable as the bigger portion goes to cover electricity costs.

Currently monthly costs of maintenance at kryptologikais around $0.11 per GH/s per month which is significantly lower than elswhere.

We will be reducing our maintenance costs by 2% starting from 01 September.

Okay, my bad. 


The site is working nicely so far. 


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on August 21, 2014, 05:57:54 PM
2014-08-21
Price min/max, open/close:
0.00215 - 0.002335, 0.00215 - 0.002335

kryptologika was added today to http://cryptoverse.org/cloud_mining/
Please cast your vote!


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on August 22, 2014, 05:43:53 PM
2014-08-22
Price min/max, open/close:
0.002343 - 0.002988, 0.002343 - 0.002988

We see now a bit higher prices.


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on August 23, 2014, 05:52:59 PM
Please keep supporting kryptologika on http://cryptoverse.org/cloud-mining/



Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on August 24, 2014, 10:41:54 PM
2014-08-25
Price min/max, open/close:
0.0024876 - 0.002499, 0.0024876 - 0.002499


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on August 26, 2014, 07:10:12 AM
We are discussing currently options for sig campaign in exchange for shares in kryptologika for those who are interested.
We will be starting a new thread in respect of this in a day or two. Should you be interested please share your opinions and suggestions.


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on August 28, 2014, 07:21:37 AM
2014-08-27
Price min/max, open/close:
0.00210976 - 0.0022987, 0.00210976 - 0.0022987

The website was off-line for a couple of hours. Now all is up and running. This would not affect the mining of course.

GH/s prices on the platform are still the lowest on the market! At the moment we have only two digit number of users.

We are working slowly but surely towards implementation of fiat however at this stage we cannot confirm the date yet.

We remind you of the small reduction in our maintenance fees by 2% starting from 01 Sept.

Happy trading!


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: Patek on August 29, 2014, 12:53:02 PM
Just bought small amount of ghs to check it out. Here are some thoughts about the whole thing - as its surely a nice alternative to cex, for now because of almost no liquidity it just cant compete. At least not in model in which you reinvest your profit on daily basis. How about you, as owner/operator act as market maker at this early stage of the project? When I first saw the site and take a look at order book my impression was like "hell, this place is dead."

What IMO site lacks is:
  • No TAS, cant really say when the last trade occured.
  • Althought I have bought some ghs I cant really see if they are workin at all. Only thing I have found is a mining history tab uner "Your wallet" which is sadly empty for now. This is a cex feature that I value a lot - ability to actually see your investment working.
 
So these are things that struck me the most. I hope the project will grow and we will see improvements. Keep it up!

.//edit// Oh, I forgot... Sites is logging me out like evry 5 minutes... Thats annoying


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on August 29, 2014, 02:19:14 PM
You can see your GH/s working under mining history tab. Perhaps it will take 2-3 hrs but not more.

No TAS indeed, we will be improving this gradually. It is really important feature I absolutely agree.

The place is not dead, it is growing slowly but surely. The project has its advantages we do not charge trading fees (and never will) and our maintenance fees are as low as possible (same will never be increased only reduced in the future). In return you are getting tradeable shares in GH/s which actually do work! And they are backed with physical silver!! Probably all those early buyers have more luck than the others who will come in a week or two. So far we have been mor focused on functionality and safety of the platform rather than anything else planning to develop it gradually as we get more attention and credibility. We are working on improvements and we take into account every remark from our customers.

Liquidity wise... we are currently focused on marketing campaign and kryptologika will be much more visible next week. Secondly there is API coming to implement purchasing shares with fiat outside of the platform. This should bring a bit more users in satisfactory numbers. THe system will be tested late September and fully operational October the latest.

A bit improved version of the platform will be launched coming Monday, we will extend the log out time of the session.

At this stage just spread the word about our platform. Bringing new customers at this low number of users (below 100, yes!) may have a positive impact on liquidity and trading for the benefit of the users.

We also encourage our users to get involved actively in promoting kryptologika by voluntarily adding our signature:

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Do not worry. We will get there!



Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on August 31, 2014, 01:04:50 PM
 edit: deleted


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: Patek on September 01, 2014, 11:11:08 AM
You can see your GH/s working under mining history tab. Perhaps it will take 2-3 hrs but not more.

Does it take 2 or 3 hours to "turn on" GHS or is it just the time for hashing power to come up on the site?

Another thing I dont quite understand is the payouts from block. WIth cex the payout from block was +/- constant but with kryptologika it varies from block to block even for as much as 200%. Could you please explain the mechanic behind this?


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on September 01, 2014, 01:41:05 PM
The delay is 15 block as they need confirmation by the network. We cannot pay the award immediately as a block can be rejected. This is giving us some 99.9999% chances ;)

The award is proportional to the lenght of a block that is related to time spent on solving it. I am not sure what is not clear here?

BTW we may have some technical problems later today as bitcurex.com has just changed their API today without a notice. It should not affect the mining however same may affect the maintenance fees for a short period of time that is about 2 to 4 hours. As per our T&C a 24hrs maintenance breake in mining is permitted for every 30 days of mining rollong without any compensation to the users. We do not think it will take that long of course if at all.


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on September 01, 2014, 05:51:50 PM
Our press note from New Money Feed

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Low Cost Bitcoin Hashing Power Trading Platform Kryptologika Offers GH/s Backed With Physical Silver
 Submitted by rss parser on Mon, 09/01/2014 - 17:15

“Increased competition in cloud mining should be welcomed by bitcoin enthusiasts, silver bugs and miners,” according to the creators of kryptologika.com—a Polish-Irish-Swedish Bitcoin trading platform that was launched early August 2014.

Differentiating from competitors Kryptologika offers a unique system of backing shares against the gradual drop in profitability of mining, utilizing physical silver. It is a well-known fact that during Bitcoin price stagnation, rising difficulty makes mining less and less productive over time and eventually, the costs of electricity can make the entire process unprofitable. The benefit of silver is ability to ensure that the price of GH/s offered by the platform would never fall to zero, as it is backed by the price of an equivalent amount of physical silver per share. Thus, buying shares is not only an investment in hashing power, but also in silver. This solution, combined with much lower maintenance costs for hosting in China, would result in a very competitive offer. Moreover, the shares can be traded among the users on the platform and in the near future, they will be available not only for Bitcoin, but also in fixed prices for fiat currencies.

“We want to optimize the mining process to make it as cost-effective as possible for the benefit of our customers. At the same time, since we are devoted miners and silver bugs, we created a product that combines the two: low-cost hashing power and an investment in physical silver.” said Project Manager of kryptologika Antoni Lesinski. “At this stage we are still in the beta phase but we will be offering cheap hashing power for Dollars, Euros, British pounds and Polish zloty in a few weeks, bringing the whole undertaking to new levels.”
At the start, the maintenance fees have been as low at $0.11 per GH/s (denominated in Polish zloty) per month. The good news is that this is also changing for the benefit of the users, starting in September. A 2% reduction of fees was offered to Kryptologika users due to an increasing client base and availability of better pricing in China.

“We will be reviewing our maintenance fees at least every quarter. This small reduction in fees demonstrates our commitment to deliver to our customers the best solutions possible, and build long term relationships, which are both very challenging, especially when Bitcoin prices are at lower levels.”
Trading shares on the platform is free of charge and hashing power goes live almost immediately after the purchase making it even more attractive for traders. Kryptologika recently teamed up with UK based onestopminingshop.com— a mining hardware retailer with a view to build a system of distribution of hashing power, for fiat currencies.

To learn more please go to: https://kryptologika.com/

Media Contact: press@kryptologika.pl



Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: Patek on September 01, 2014, 06:59:40 PM
Okay, understood.

Anyway, here is another thing - I have buy order at 21 and a new one appeared at the same price. First thing - I guess they should be merged into one since that would make hell of a mess with more liquidity. The other thing is that it looks that the new order would be fulfilled first and it definitely should be FIFO.


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on September 01, 2014, 10:47:21 PM
Well, I disagree. Technically they should be merged indeed but on the other hand it creates a bit more buying/selling pressure given that there are no trading fees. If you want to buy/sell make a better offer. So it is neutral from our perspective then. The graph will show them as walls anyway.

We may change it later however should there be people asking for it.

2014-09-02
Price min/max, open/close:
0.0021 - 0.00242826, 0.00242826 - 0.00211


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on September 05, 2014, 09:48:37 PM
We are pleased to announce we will be making purchases for fiat possible within two to three weeks. The sale of the shares will go  thorough our business parters.

We are also considering API for trading.

Prices on the market are still relatively low same as our maintenance costs. We have reduced them by 2% starting from September. We will be reviewing the maintenance costs on monthly basis and we expect further reductions depending on the volume.

2014-09-05
Price min/max, open/close:
0.00215001 - 0.00220012, 0.00215001 - 0.00220012


Happy trading!


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on September 12, 2014, 06:44:29 PM
A short 1 hr maintenance break on kryptologika.
No impact on the mining process whatsoever ;)


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: kingscrown on September 12, 2014, 07:31:54 PM
just so u guys know l3sny is a mod of official polish bitcoin forum and hes known and respected in the local community


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on September 19, 2014, 07:30:22 PM
Fiat paymets will be available later this month!

BTC going down? Our maintenance fees are competitive with the leading hashing power offers!

2014-09-19
Price min/max, open/close:
0.002 - 0.0020009, 0.0020009 - 0.002


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: kingscrown on September 20, 2014, 03:12:43 AM
Some mining hardcore porn....  ;D

http://www.pictureshack.us/thumbs/99187_IMG_3130.JPG (http://www.pictureshack.us/view_99187_IMG_3130.JPG)

http://www.pictureshack.us/thumbs/14823_IMG_3135.JPG (http://www.pictureshack.us/view_14823_IMG_3135.JPG)

http://www.pictureshack.us/thumbs/78804_IMG_3134.JPG (http://www.pictureshack.us/view_78804_IMG_3134.JPG)

http://www.pictureshack.us/thumbs/23226_IMG_3126.JPG (http://www.pictureshack.us/view_23226_IMG_3126.JPG)

http://www.pictureshack.us/thumbs/43173_IMG_3139.JPG (http://www.pictureshack.us/view_43173_IMG_3139.JPG)


I have more pics if you want but you see.... The whole mining operation does not look too good for someone with high estethics expectations. It is however very costs effective. Note suspended PSU's which makes better airflow. There are 2 huge fans sucking air from one end and pushing it out at the other end.  
I will post the pics from our Chinese DC shortly.


hey post this to twitter/instagram with #miningporn tag - which ive created  :)


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on September 20, 2014, 09:11:20 PM
I have concerns over children protection ;)


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on September 25, 2014, 08:39:37 AM
Recent information on the censorship of bitcointalk in China have no impact on our mining operations hosted there.
We are currently working on the implementation of fiat payments with our new business parter. Initially the services will be available for PLN market only. We will be able to provide more details shortly. Unfortunately this is more complicated than we had thought so we may expect service to be online in October.

2014-09-24
Price min/max, open/close:
0.0019792 - 0.0019792, 0.0019792 - 0.0019792


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: Patek on September 26, 2014, 04:20:24 PM
So, how are things looking for Kryptologika?


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on September 27, 2014, 09:44:07 AM
The things for kryptologika look challenging.

We are still working on the fiat payments system which could improve the client base, depth of the market and the volume. This also would make mainstream advertising more practical.

At this stage it will not be possible to pay with card payments due to overall reluctance towards bitcoin on the part of the card payments companies. We have had a few telecons with them and this option is rather off the table.
I can confirm however that we will implement bank transfers and SEPA payments and almost instant mining without or very little delay will be possible as an option same as it is when purchasing with BTC. We want to make it easy and once we are closer to completion more details will be revealed. The shares in packages of 20, 50 and 100 GH/s will be available in different price ranges and of course with discounts depending on the package of choice.

T&C will be changed  a bit in respect of the business set up and fiat payments implementation. I can assure you that there will be no changes in the maintenance fees unless and only when we can reduce them in favour of our customers. We have high hopes with S4 from bitmaintech but this miner is not available for us yet. So you may expect another drop in maitenance fees probably at the end of October.

We will implement a few new things on the website as well. Comparable statistics of other offers to start with and the price of silver graph or silver price ticker. Yes we are aware that silver price has been in decline and is now as cheap as it was in 2010. This is an anomaly and we are buying more bullion coins on this occasion as this is a perfect buying opportunity!

Current BTC prices are squeezing the whole mining industry but we are happy to see new more effective miners  on the horizon. We are sure that at some stage BTC price will prevail and we will probably see another sharp rise in price as we had in November last year making mining much more profitable.

If you have any specific questions please do not hesitate and drop us a line on info@kryptologika.pl or support@kryptologika.pl



Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on October 14, 2014, 04:06:27 PM
We have now our blog on kryptologika.wordpress.com
Please check it out! We welcome your comments. Just click onthe letter "W" in the signature.


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on October 20, 2014, 12:23:02 PM
With the difficulty increase dynamics  slowing down mining is becoming profitable.
We are planning to reduce the maintenance fees starting form 01/11 !  ;)

2014-10-20
Price min/max, open/close:
0.00169991 - 0.0017, 0.00169991 - 0.0017


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on October 23, 2014, 10:50:18 PM
We have detected a security breach. Withdrawals are temporarily disabled and mining is not affected. The matter will be resolved shortly.

That's the guy:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2jjv49/psa_potential_ongoing_hack_through_services/


edit:

Security brach fixed. We have added some new security enhancements. No bitcoin is missing and no breake in the mining process.
The platform is now functioning as normal.


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: kingscrown on November 06, 2014, 04:34:29 PM
seems like an interesting alternative from hashlets and cex


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on November 06, 2014, 05:01:09 PM
It is getting even more interesting with current drop in hashrate ;)


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: bitgeek on November 08, 2014, 05:18:55 PM
A silver-backed contract brings this image to my mind. I think it was called silverbank.

http://static.iltalehti.fi/uutiset/13549021_503_uu.jpg

Not trolling or anything, I really like the idea. Good luck!


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on November 09, 2014, 08:01:56 AM
This guy is a living example of human magnetism rather ;)

2014-11-08
Price min/max, open/close:
0.0014 - 0.0014, 0.0014 - 0.0014


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on November 12, 2014, 07:29:07 PM
We are having problems with the demon on the platform. Mining is not affected however trading may cause some problems therefore please refrein from the same.
We will provide you with an update as soon as we can.


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on November 14, 2014, 09:32:47 AM
The system is up and running!
2014-11-14
Price min/max, open/close:
0.001005 - 0.001005, 0.001005 - 0.001005

Good to see BTC price recovering ;)


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on November 21, 2014, 03:56:31 PM
US Mint Rations Silver Eagles - Record Sales Year?

So they are driving the price of silver down...  Results? The people have figured it out and are buying left and right. Silver eagles currently are being "allocated".

The whole story below:

http://silverseek.com/article/us-mint-reports-silver-eagles-huge-demand-weekly-rationing-13836

Kryptologika is offering silver backed GH/s

And do not forget about the dropping difficulty ;)

2014-11-21
Price min/max, open/close:
0.00131222 - 0.00131222, 0.00131222 - 0.00131222


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on November 28, 2014, 10:41:46 AM
Server maintenance break approximately 4 hours. Mining not affected!

2014-11-27
Price min/max, open/close:
0.00132986 - 0.001364, 0.00132986 - 0.001364


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on December 02, 2014, 12:23:51 PM
We just reduced maintenance fees by 25% yesterday.

2014-12-01
Price min/max, open/close:
0.0012 - 0.00128, 0.00128 - 0.00128


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on December 09, 2014, 10:34:53 AM
24-25 December is a Free Mining Day on kryptologika !!
No maintenance fees!!

2014-12-12 Price min/max, open/close:
0.00131911 - 0.00131911, 0.00131911 - 0.0


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on December 14, 2014, 12:02:46 PM
We are delighted to see a possibility of further drop of the difficulty.

http://bitcoin.sipa.be/


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on December 20, 2014, 05:52:51 PM
24-25 December is a Free Mining Day on kryptologika !!
No maintenance fees!!

https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10858614_1522511024701125_3334968145831621257_n.png?oh=8d60e83b1b59ad8f0ea974fd77c80bd7&oe=5538F481


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: kallesin on December 24, 2014, 11:44:26 AM
Hello

Today is 24 December, but im still paying maintence fees....
 ;)

Marry Christmas


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on December 24, 2014, 11:59:32 AM
Free mining starts today at 1.00PM CET!!!


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on January 11, 2015, 09:21:21 PM
I has been quiet for a while... ;)
Now you can purchase hashing power in packages of 200, 500 and 1,000 for EUR for as little as 0.22EUR for GH/s with instant mining!


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on January 15, 2015, 06:02:51 PM
01/15/2015

In the last 24 hours we have fell below level of profitability due to much lower bitcoin prices reached on Tuesday and Wednesday.

We feel this is temporary and mining operation will be restored. For the time being we will try to obtain better maitenance offers from our Chinese counterparts and reduce the fees.

We will post an update before midnight CENTRAL EUROPEAN TIME.

 

kryptologika team

 

UPDATE

We have reduced maintenance fees by 5% and restored mining. We will be updating the Terms and Conditions to reflect the situation and the scenario of loss of profitability in the future. Should you have any queries please do not hesitate and contact us on support@kryptologika.pl


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on January 21, 2015, 03:53:52 PM
We have updated our Terms & Conditions. Main changes refer to the scenario of redemption of the shares if profitability drops to negative. As mentioned before we have also reduced maintenance fees by 5%. We will try to decrease them further in the future.


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: Puppet on March 07, 2015, 08:41:29 AM
Since l3sny doesnt deem it necessary to inform its customers (if any), I feel I should.

kryptologika is/was basically a AMhash passthrough operation that took a margin on top off AMhash prices and added some (IMO quite pointless) token amount of silver in the mix.

The issue of course, is that AMhash is in limbo, with their hardware allegedly stolen and friedcat missing in action. That means kryptologika doesnt have any hashrate backing its contracts either, whatever its paying in dividends doesnt come from mining right now and kryptologika is essentially running as a fractional reserve/ponzi scheme.

Id have much preferred if l3sny had chosen to inform you of this, along with presenting his recovery plans  (if any) and temporarily suspending trade to allow Q&A, but since he refused, you'll have to hear it from me.


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on March 07, 2015, 10:12:37 AM
I was just wondering when Puppet will show his true colors and start spreading FUD. I am really disgusted with you.
At some stage a few months ago I considered Puppet to be trusted and worthy member of the bitcoin community as he did a decent work endorsing scams. I have disclosed to him some of the details of our operations. He refused to check our hashrates then. I thought he could be trusted but now I can see how much damage he can make to our brand, my name and kryptologika users.

Kryptologika since the beginning has used many services always looking for the best prices. Before that we mined on our own equipment, at various stages used different providers. And we still do so. We mine, we p[ay dividends and we are not going to go belly up any time soon. I have communicated this to Puppet in private communication. But no, he wants some attention ;)

I hope you all can judge for yourselves. Should this cause panic and major sell off.... well it is your decision.

Nothing has happened, I have nothing to communicate to our customers, business as usual.

PS

Puppet you're an idiot. You have no idea of how mining operations work. All that you see everywhere are scams, and ponzi schemes. I will not address in any way your accusations or revelations in the future as I am sure they will be more. Basically you're a danger to reliable and trustworthy businesses in mining. You just cannot be trusted.


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: Puppet on March 07, 2015, 10:58:49 AM
He refused to check our hashrates then.

No, I refused to base my assessment on non-public information that I was asked to keep secret. You should have let everyone check your hashrates, not just me,  then Id gladly have checked it and anyone could have double checked it. Not disclosing this information publicly would mean my assessment would require people to trust me, which is not much help, thats why I told you: make it public or I will ignore it.

Quote
Kryptologika since the beginning has used many services always looking for the best prices. Before that we mined on our own equipment, at various stages used different providers.

'has used" is past tense. You told me a few months ago your hashrate came from AMhash. Are you denying this? If you have other sources, I strongly suggest you make the evidence public. Otherwise people would be wise to assume you dont have any atm.

Quote
Nothing has happened, I have nothing to communicate to our customers, business as usual.

Right. Nothing happened to AM, your hashrate provider...

https://i.imgur.com/tMoPhtG.jpg


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on March 07, 2015, 11:10:51 AM
I do not mind if you cause more panic regarding kryptologika. It is my users to judge whether to cash out or stay. Their choice.
Amhash problem does not affect kryptologika in a scale that would require suspending operations or any emergency communication. But Puppet go ahead, try to sink kryptologika. Good luck ;)



Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: Puppet on March 07, 2015, 11:14:38 AM
Amhash problem does not affect kryptologika in a scale that would require suspending operations or any emergency communication.

This is what you wrote to me:

So basically we are buying GH/s for 0.0012 and offering them at kryptologika making profits on the price difference and maintenance difference.
At the moment we have 4180.00 GH/s on hashie.co 
to verify that you have to enter my e-mail address here:
http://amhash.com/hashie/index.php
my address is *****
[..]
The remaining 382GH/s is still on hashnest as I was not able to sell all the GH/s there.


Given that AMhash is currently gone, Ill let your customers decide if losing >90% of your hashrate required any communication or how they think you can make profit from such a loss and at who's expense that would be.


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on March 07, 2015, 11:28:54 AM
Please go ahead and spread the word as it pleases you. But remember that all you do may cause damage to the customers who cash out early with a loss. Can you take responsibility for your actions? Please confirm it in public that if you were wrong will you apologize for spreading FUD and causing unnecessary distress? Will you have the balls to admit you were wrong ?

Apart from that this communication was exchanged many many months ago and we reduced our prices and costs twice since. I cannot see in what way our customers or anyone may benefit from what you are saying. Do not you feel disgusted with yourself disclosing private communication ?


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: Puppet on March 07, 2015, 12:04:15 PM
Please go ahead and spread the word as it pleases you. But remember that all you do may cause damage to the customers who cash out early with a loss. Can you take responsibility for your actions? Please confirm it in public that if you were wrong will you apologize for spreading FUD and causing unnecessary distress? Will you have the balls to admit you were wrong ?

What could I be wrong about exactly? 
If you fed me false information, then its not likely Im the one who has to apologize for that.
If amhash resurfaces, then you and your customers will get lucky, but I wouldnt have been wrong in warning them and its up to them to gauge those odds.  Panic selling could have been avoided if you had disclosed the information and suspended trading for a while to allow investors to catch up. You flatly refused to do either, so thats not on me.

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Apart from that this communication was exchanged many many months ago and we reduced our prices and costs twice since. I cannot see in what way our customers or anyone may benefit from what you are saying.

You dont feel they deserve to know that you no longer control what you sold to them ? Do you think AMhash should not have told their customers what was going on either?

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Do not you feel disgusted with yourself disclosing private communication ?

On the contrary. Ive kept this private for long enough now. The moment AMhash collapsed I told you you should inform your customers of the impact on your business. When you refused I felt obligated to come forward, and Id feel disgusted not telling and allowing you to run a fractional reserve/ponzi scheme.



Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on March 07, 2015, 12:33:26 PM
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What could I be wrong about exactly?  
If you fed me false information, then its not likely Im the one who has to apologize for that.
If amhash resurfaces, then you and your customers will get lucky, but I wouldnt have been wrong in warning them and its up to them to gauge those odds.  Panic selling could have been avoided if you had disclosed the information and suspended trading for a while to allow investors to catch up. You flatly refused to do either, so thats not on me.

You see we have not promised to buy back at fixed prices should the shares be falling like stones. It is entirely up to our customers to decide.

I can take responsibility for my actions, I am easy to be traced, the details of our company are in public domain on our website. You are positioning yourself as an arbiter in a situation where I in good faith disclosed to you some information which (at the time) was vital to our business. Now you are not privy to any details and you will never be trusted again because this situation illustrates who you really are - a lowlife trying to destroy a business but most of all spreading disinformation to our customers. I repeat: there is no situation that would require any special actions or communication to our customers. We are paying the dividends and trading as usual and we are mining. Amhash situation is not affecting us in any significant way, as you well know there are many better offers on the market which in turn will benefit our customers as we are reducing the maintenance prices gradually always looking for better opportunities to buy cheap hashing power. Unfortunately we cannot afford to be transparent, (we tried with Puppet and this is what has happened). It is all changing in this business, you buy you sell, you mine. It is simply impossible and not practical to be transparent for individuals like Puppet to please them so that at any time he can call the shots and demand to do what he wants.

We will continue to run our operations as normal. I am sorry Puppet that we will not cease our business as you want and I hope that you understand this and apologize in public for your actions should this spread and cause panic sell. I will be referring to this from time to time and reminding you of this. So be careful what you are doing.

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You dont feel they deserve to know that you no longer control what you sold to them ? Do you think AMhash should not have told their customers what was going on either?

I do not feel anything. I am curious how this situation is going to develop. I think the people who run such operations have to be responsible for the loss if they occur not to avoid it as do the main actors do in this situation.

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n the contrary. Ive kept this private for long enough now. The moment AMhash collapsed I told you you should inform your customers of the impact on your business. When you refused I felt obligated to come forward, and Id feel disgusted not telling and allowing you to run a fractional reserve/ponzi scheme.

Private stays private forever. You are not trustworthy Puppet which is sad.  You are not in a position to be telling me what I should or should not be doing and this is not going to change.


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: NotLambchop on March 07, 2015, 02:17:25 PM
"KRYPTOLOGIKA   Trade  Silver-Backed  GH/s  For  The  Best  Prices!" <==That's hilarious!  WTF is a "silver-backed GH/s"?  Hahahahaha.
Getting the feeling that "doing business" here is about as complicated (and as sporting) as shooting fish in a barrel.
How many silver-backed gigahashes have you sold and/or traded, per second?

*Bonus points for "KRYPTOLOGIKA"--
+1 for C->K swap.  Always clever, badass & appropriate (see: Krime/Khryme/Krhyme)
+1 for "LOGICA" because sophisticated & sciency, with just a touch of foregnese (see: http://s29.postimg.org/s4e8yjukn/Capture.jpg)

GG, brah!


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on March 07, 2015, 03:23:11 PM
You should have read T&C or "How it works" to learn what is our offer.
If you have any specific questions I am happy to answer them here.


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: NotLambchop on March 07, 2015, 03:29:58 PM
^Nah, no questions, seen before/know how it works.
Just giving U props, brah.  Hilarious shit!


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on March 07, 2015, 04:00:00 PM
I am not sure what do you mean...
Silver now is say $15.50 but it used to be $48.00 in may 2012.
Gold is dropping as well...  But at some stage silver will go much much higher and this may pull the price of the shares up.
 
So basically if you are buying shares in kryptologika you are also investing in physical silver. It is unique and serves the purpose of  effective marketing. It is also cheaper than mining at home on your antminer. You can buy\sell it at 0% fee, play on the market etc. We are also selling GHs in larger quantities for EUR.



Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: NotLambchop on March 07, 2015, 04:16:16 PM
...
So basically if you are buying shares in kryptologika you are also investing in physical silver. It is unique and serves the purpose of  effective marketing. ...

Whoa, like a free toy in my Happy Meal!
The Bitcoiner mom in me loves nutritious hashes, while my goldbuggy kid side wants that silver prize!  Genious!

SODL!!11!
Seriously tho, I'm a fan.  Enjoy the free bump & padding away from that nasty Puppet comment.


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on March 07, 2015, 04:35:45 PM
Ahhh.... I am a silverbug at heart!
At some stage we will be making our own bars and selling them here and there. Just not yet, not yet...

We have quite a strong fan base (and yes this is for your information  you ugly Puppet!!) and we do not want to let them down so I would rather sell my internal organs than let this project to go down.


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: flyingplows on March 07, 2015, 06:35:48 PM
NOW LISTEN TO THIS:
i feel i also have the right to tell what i think about puppet''s rating, and i think it is corrupted or at least biased.
amhash should be rated:

1. o.5 points (no user selectable pool)
2. 1 (rockminer has no equipment and asicminer is laughable - is it even a company lol, it is rather a person of semi-anonymous identity)
3. 1 (i did not see any picture that holds a note it belongs to amhash - it can be pictures of any farm) - plz correct me if i am wrong on this one Smiley
4. 1 (lol, it is beyond stupidity, its not even a criteria, like, of course, if you sell in batches or if you claim huge hashrate at once in the first place - you are more legit  Grin, so its 1 cause you give it for everyone else.)
6. 1 (real amhash operators ARE anonymous)
7. 1 (unless puppet tells me how to exit now)
8. 1 (is a blatant lie by puppet - just take a look at the 1st page on amhash thread - friedcat says "3. Guaranteed profit".)

so amhash should score 6.5 = ponzi/scam, and i lost money because of you puppet, not a big amount but your rating causes more damage than it helps, especially if people trust you.
what i wanted to say - if people are to trust puppet - you people keep in mind that one incorrect rating causes 100x more damage than all the correct ones will save you, because you'll not need an advice on the obvious either way and you may be misled on the ones that really matter...
puppet i trusted you without much research and i was burnt because of your corrupt rating, i will never trust you anymore.
p.s. if you dont mind disclosing private communications with you from cloudmining operator - please disclose communications between you and amhash, i think everybody would be interested now.


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on March 07, 2015, 07:01:55 PM
Man! Please tell the world I am not paying you for this!! :D :D :D


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: flyingplows on March 07, 2015, 07:06:28 PM
well no, i am not invested here and he does not pay me... wtf, can you give me 10 ghs for testing if i register ?  :D :D :D i might buy some shares if they drop though  ;D


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: flyingplows on March 07, 2015, 07:08:57 PM
by the way, the one u should have payed seems to be that self-assigned scamexpert because if you were higher on his list i would have bought yours shares instead of amhash, and at least they would be worth smth by now...  ;D ;D ;D isnt is funny?  


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: flyingplows on March 10, 2015, 08:17:24 PM
why there is such silence here? :D nobody asks any questions, no panic selling - the price of ghs is quite high given the latest news, seems like nobody cares, i mean i really wanted to buy some after the price correction... :P not even a bump :P a nice business you got here l3sny, with unmoved clients who don't care  ;D no trolls, no anger, no speculations... no anything.. oh, well..


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: Phantomofheat on March 13, 2015, 04:58:25 PM
A few things that I like about this service is that there is no fee for selling and buying GH unlike most services.

They do have published mining addresses if you have earned any BTC you can go to the wallet page and click on Balance history from there you can see the blockchain info.

From what I can tell two pools they use are Ghash and Discus Fish.

l3sny if you post the mining addresses it might take some heat off.


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on March 13, 2015, 08:07:51 PM
We may consider this but actually at this stage we see no reason.


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on March 24, 2015, 09:49:58 PM
Yesterday and today we experienced a problem with the transaction graph (two consecutive flash crash candles down). The transactions however are working correctly matching the highest bids with the lowest asks. We will fix this issue shortly.

Should you have any queries in relation to the above please contact us on support@kryptologika.pl


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on March 27, 2015, 09:13:21 AM

Tonight at midnight CET the operations will be suspended for 48hrs due to release of the new patch and testing. The gap will not affect the mining.

Should you have any queries please contact us on support@kryptologika.pl

 

kryptologika team


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: Phantomofheat on March 31, 2015, 09:15:21 PM
Looks like the site is still down. It no longer switches to English and the login page does not load.


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: flyingplows on March 31, 2015, 10:58:44 PM
It's longer than the promised 48hrs. But I think he is just having some technical difficulties which will be resolved. He can't just run away. Seems a good guy, and most importantly he still has to sue asicminer for amhash scam and return us our money :P So we don't allow him to dissapear just yet :D


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on April 01, 2015, 09:36:23 AM
I know it is longer. We are working on it with new devs. The bitcoins are safe and mining is continuing. It is the trading that is the problem. I am not going anywhere and I can assure you all that it will be fixed 100% the question is only how much time would it take.


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: primeminer on April 02, 2015, 11:28:09 AM
I know it is longer. We are working on it with new devs. The bitcoins are safe and mining is continuing. It is the trading that is the problem. I am not going anywhere and I can assure you all that it will be fixed 100% the question is only how much time would it take.

April fools?


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: flyingplows on April 02, 2015, 05:42:16 PM
Look at the bright side, he is not abducted, fried, jailed, etc.., does not provide absurd excuses and is communicating and stuff..
And he is busy cause, u know, sues those other scammers that were not legit :P Its all for good ;)
I was going to invest a bit here, but I think I'll wait a few months to see how it goes after the amhash drama, if kryptologika survives it makes a name for itself and some people here will have to apologize...


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: primeminer on April 02, 2015, 08:53:51 PM
Look at the bright side, he is not abducted, fried, jailed, etc.., does not provide absurd excuses and is communicating and stuff..
And he is busy cause, u know, sues those other scammers that were not legit :P Its all for good ;)
I was going to invest a bit here, but I think I'll wait a few months to see how it goes after the amhash drama, if kryptologika survives it makes a name for itself and some people here will have to apologize...


well I am quite sure kryptologika will survive but am not so sure that anyone would apologise .... defo not 101 master :)


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: flyingplows on April 13, 2015, 07:37:54 PM
The site says fixing is still going on, I hope it is not related to AMHash scandal in any way.. Well at least nobody was panic selling just after AMHash scam became obvious. So even if it is not related, you know, it is a bad time now to fix bugs and update website now... Just sayin... ;)


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: kingscrown on April 14, 2015, 02:24:09 AM
is there any problem? i have other froum where i may contact the owner of this.

keep in mind - im not a user of the system, just got a way to get a hold of him


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on April 14, 2015, 07:30:19 AM
Take it easy please, we are trying to solve the problem but believe me it is not that straight forward.
We will be publishing a statement at the end of this week in relation to the fix and we will provide alternatives.

Again I can ensure you that the situation has not affected mining (however we are approaching 100% maintenance costs).



Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on April 18, 2015, 08:18:05 AM
We are testing now the patch. The transactions should be back very shortly.



Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: crazyivan on April 18, 2015, 07:31:30 PM
We are testing now the patch. The transactions should be back very shortly.



Can you elaborate what s been the problem pls?
Is it hardware or software issue?


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on April 18, 2015, 08:20:17 PM
Trading has just been fixed. Tonight at midnight we are commencing 48 hrs of free mining. On Tuesday we are planning to reduce the maintenance costs and restore profitability.

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Can you elaborate what s been the problem pls?
Is it hardware or software issue?

The problem was a bug in transactional engine. It incorrectly calculated the trades applying lower prices instead of the best price from the top of the bids. It was only noticed when someone tried to sell shares at very low value back on the 23rd of March. As you can see on the graph there was a value of 363 satoshi. Therefore we had to suspend the trading.

It took us so long to fix it as we are not working with the previous developers any more. We have just recently found someone who knows scala and was able to find the bug and fix it.


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: crazyivan on April 19, 2015, 07:36:55 AM
Trading has just been fixed. Tonight at midnight we are commencing 48 hrs of free mining. On Tuesday we are planning to reduce the maintenance costs and restore profitability.

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Can you elaborate what s been the problem pls?
Is it hardware or software issue?

The problem was a bug in transactional engine. It incorrectly calculated the trades applying lower prices instead of the best price from the top of the bids. It was only noticed when someone tried to sell shares at very low value back on the 23rd of March. As you can see on the graph there was a value of 363 satoshi. Therefore we had to suspend the trading.

It took us so long to fix it as we are not working with the previous developers any more. We have just recently found someone who knows scala and was able to find the bug and fix it.

Good to see you almost back. I ve been reading those accusations of you guys being a scam and I always like to see when these are refuted. Till Tuesday then.


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: kingscrown on April 19, 2015, 02:37:58 PM
sounds great!


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: primeminer on April 20, 2015, 08:41:28 PM
Looks like up and running:

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/537/MYWtdg.jpg


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: crazyivan on April 21, 2015, 06:52:25 AM

Any reported payments? Tuesday is the deadline.


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: cryptojumper on April 21, 2015, 10:29:09 AM
I have a question how do you manage to buy silver that you are to ship to investors at the end of the contract? Aren't you supposed to buy equipment with the received money? When equipment is unprofitable you could sell it and send the liquidation money, why bother with that silver ::)


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on April 21, 2015, 08:21:50 PM
I have a question how do you manage to buy silver that you are to ship to investors at the end of the contract? Aren't you supposed to buy equipment with the received money? When equipment is unprofitable you could sell it and send the liquidation money, why bother with that silver ::)

When the equipment is unprofitable is worth zero and cannot be sold.
To get physical silver you need to possess at least 1 THs as this amount will be converted to 1oz of silver. There are also costs of posting invovled so not all the customers will take physical silver I believe and would prefer to settle in bitcoin at COMEX prices.

We have decreased maintenance costs by 1.13% following free 48hrs mining.


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: crazyivan on April 22, 2015, 06:51:11 AM
I have a question how do you manage to buy silver that you are to ship to investors at the end of the contract? Aren't you supposed to buy equipment with the received money? When equipment is unprofitable you could sell it and send the liquidation money, why bother with that silver ::)

When the equipment is unprofitable is worth zero and cannot be sold.
To get physical silver you need to possess at least 1 THs as this amount will be converted to 1oz of silver. There are also costs of posting invovled so not all the customers will take physical silver I believe and would prefer to settle in bitcoin at COMEX prices.

We have decreased maintenance costs by 1.13% following free 48hrs mining.

So everything s back online and operational?


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: cryptojumper on April 22, 2015, 09:37:49 AM
crazyivan, are you invested here? How are the payouts? Are they the same as per ghs as on other platforms, because the price looks like considerably lower... Why is that? If everything is fine here just underpriced ghs I might buy some ;)


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: crazyivan on April 22, 2015, 04:56:25 PM
crazyivan, are you invested here? How are the payouts? Are they the same as per ghs as on other platforms, because the price looks like considerably lower... Why is that? If everything is fine here just underpriced ghs I might buy some ;)

Nah, I do not have my share here. I was thinking about it, this is why I keep asking so many questions.


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on April 22, 2015, 06:03:19 PM
yes, everything is up and running.


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: crazyivan on April 22, 2015, 06:22:13 PM
yes, everything is up and running.

Cool, let me test this then with some small amount.


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on April 22, 2015, 06:33:10 PM
please bear in mind that current prices are market prices from our users as we are now selling only for EUR in packages of 200, 500 and 1000GHs.


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: crazyivan on April 23, 2015, 06:08:15 AM
please bear in mind that current prices are market prices from our users as we are now selling only for EUR in packages of 200, 500 and 1000GHs.

Ok, so you ve got your packages as well as hash from your exchange. Why do you mention this?


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: flyingplows on April 23, 2015, 08:21:23 AM
please bear in mind that current prices are market prices from our users as we are now selling only for EUR in packages of 200, 500 and 1000GHs.

Ok, so you ve got your packages as well as hash from your exchange. Why do you mention this?

Congrats on coming back! I knew you would :P
I created account already and was waiting for your website to return operational so I could try some mining here, cause as I've said previously before the outage, and all the stuff, you seem an honest guy and I'm glad you are back and running after all these bugs and accusations.
Was also wondering about is there any difference between the contracts purchased from the trade market in compared purchased from you directly, I mean does silver backing still counts etc..


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: crazyivan on April 23, 2015, 04:02:22 PM
please bear in mind that current prices are market prices from our users as we are now selling only for EUR in packages of 200, 500 and 1000GHs.

Ok, so you ve got your packages as well as hash from your exchange. Why do you mention this?

Congrats on coming back! I knew you would :P
I created account already and was waiting for your website to return operational so I could try some mining here, cause as I've said previously before the outage, and all the stuff, you seem an honest guy and I'm glad you are back and running after all these bugs and accusations.
Was also wondering about is there any difference between the contracts purchased from the trade market in compared purchased from you directly, I mean does silver backing still counts etc..

It should count cause the miner only changes hands, they still operate it. So this potential silver ownership changed hands as well.


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on April 23, 2015, 05:28:28 PM
Silver coins are protection in case we would not be able to reduce our maintenance costs any further. It is a risk. However we expect at some stage silver price going much higher. So basically it is an investment ino both: hashing power an silver + you can play on the open market as there are 0& trading fees.


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: Puppet on April 23, 2015, 08:19:48 PM
you seem an honest guy

Dont all scammers appear to be honest before they run off? Didnt pirate have an all time record trust rating ? Forget appearances, look at the facts. Why would an honest guy not disclose the source of the hashrate he sells, why would he not provide any evidence he currently owns any non trivial amount of hashrate, be it physical or otherwise, why didnt he want me to disclose 90% of "his" hashrate was just an overpriced AMhash passthrough - which has since gone defunct ?
Just because he says he will ship you $15 worth of silver per TH if you pay up to  $30 in shipping?


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: primeminer on April 24, 2015, 08:50:28 AM

Dont all scammers appear to be honest before they run off? Didnt pirate have an all time record trust rating ? Forget appearances, look at the facts. Why would an honest guy not disclose the source of the hashrate he sells, why would he not provide any evidence he currently owns any non trivial amount of hashrate, be it physical or otherwise, why didnt he want me to disclose 90% of "his" hashrate was just an overpriced AMhash passthrough - which has since gone defunct ?
Just because he says he will ship you $15 worth of silver per TH if you pay up to  $30 in shipping?


Puppet

your investment advises and opinions have lost their appearance of being objective and reliable but now you are just digging it further. Please just tell me you have some source of that shipping cost other than a gut feeling. If not stop clowning around....


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: flyingplows on April 24, 2015, 09:34:57 AM
I still link his 101 thread to newbies asking if some shit scam site is legit, but it's complicated...
My judgement on Puppets thread would be something like this:
1) It is very helpful for newbies and kids not to not lose their money on shitty scammers, because there are always shills on dedicated ANN threads that promote how legit and why so this scam is.
2) For members and higher people here that thread is irrelevant because given the same criteria most likely they would place the points differently, not even talking about that the criteria for legitness might be different in some cases.

So the bottom line is - if you know what you're doing don't let Puppets 101 thread have any influence on you, because you know better!
KRYPTOLOGIKA, in my opinion should provide more clarity to their customers in what they are investing in, but it is surely not in line with all these bastards it is listed with there.


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on April 24, 2015, 05:35:44 PM
At this stage it is not possible to disclose the details of our mining operation. I am sure it will be possible in the future however I just do not think we need it at all. Funny Puppet did not sniff out our  troubles with the trading engine ;)

Honestly.... I just do not care what third parties  say about kryptologika. We keep calm and continue mining, all that matters is to continue reducing the maintenance prices and sell more GHs.


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: Puppet on April 24, 2015, 09:32:28 PM
I still link his 101 thread to newbies asking if some shit scam site is legit, but it's complicated...
My judgement on Puppets thread would be something like this:
1) It is very helpful for newbies and kids not to not lose their money on shitty scammers, because there are always shills on dedicated ANN threads that promote how legit and why so this scam is.
2) For members and higher people here that thread is irrelevant because given the same criteria most likely they would place the points differently, not even talking about that the criteria for legitness might be different in some cases.

Im actually completely fine with that; in fact, its basically the point Im trying to get across: do your own due diligence, and feel free to use my criteria as a guide. Thats way more important than looking at the list.

That said, while its good to weigh importance of criteria individually and not just tally them like I do, I chose my criteria for a reason, and will defend all of them. The reality is that l3sny barely complies with any of them, especially the most crucial ones about ownership of hashrate. Its even worse than not knowing, we do know he lost ownership of most of the hashrate he did have. So why you would just trust him nonetheless? Even if you overlooked my disclaimers,  the AM/AMhash debacle should have learned us that complying with all or nearly all 101 criteria isnt enough and still doesnt guarantee you much. Why would you feel confident about a service that doesnt even come close to that?
Of course its possible l3sny wont scam you, but why take the risk?


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on April 24, 2015, 11:29:59 PM
But the thing is that we started mining hosting ourselves. Then we used a combined hashing power of our jupiters, neptunes and private enterpreneurs from China. THen we added a few cloud mining services and resigned from our own hardware etc. And basically we are always looking to allocate the hashing power in the best offers available so I am really unable to show one consistent pool or hashrate etc. I do not think we will be ever mining at one particular place. THis strategy makes it possible to reduce the prices and keep the business afloat. And believe me I am not doing any significant profits out of this, I think rather that if we can survive say a year from now the trust and value of this undertaking will gain in value. Then perhaps with our goodwill we may think of taking a strategic investor on board or do something much more serious on a greater scale.

THere are many other issues apart from that, mostly positive. I have a new job now and will be able to invest further in development of kryptologika in a few months. On the other hand BTC is very low, silver is low as well so we are not shining and this bug with the trading engine was really not easy to sort out. So from this point I really do not care about the credibility or whether someone is alleging we are scammers or con artists. And personally I do not like Puppet.


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: crazyivan on April 25, 2015, 09:02:30 AM
But the thing is that we started mining hosting ourselves. Then we used a combined hashing power of our jupiters, neptunes and private enterpreneurs from China. THen we added a few cloud mining services and resigned from our own hardware etc. And basically we are always looking to allocate the hashing power in the best offers available so I am really unable to show one consistent pool or hashrate etc. I do not think we will be ever mining at one particular place. THis strategy makes it possible to reduce the prices and keep the business afloat. And believe me I am not doing any significant profits out of this, I think rather that if we can survive say a year from now the trust and value of this undertaking will gain in value. Then perhaps with our goodwill we may think of taking a strategic investor on board or do something much more serious on a greater scale.

THere are many other issues apart from that, mostly positive. I have a new job now and will be able to invest further in development of kryptologika in a few months. On the other hand BTC is very low, silver is low as well so we are not shining and this bug with the trading engine was really not easy to sort out. So from this point I really do not care about the credibility or whether someone is alleging we are scammers or con artists. And personally I do not like Puppet.

If I were you, I would not post these kind of threads. In BTC world, credibility s everything. If you lose that, the only people you can count to work with are newbies and other scammers. None of these last long, the first group learns and stop being newbies. The second group....well....not worth of mentioning.


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: flyingplows on April 25, 2015, 09:23:26 AM
I would think KRYPTOLOGIKA has to state very clearly what they are doing. Just tell your customers that you are reinvesting a part of the funds and stuff and advertise as such! They will still invest and more. I will invest for one.
There's no shame in this business model. In fact, it's a plus. You can make you services different, unique, there are people looking for exactly this kind of services.

;D I'm still not invested here btw. ;D


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on May 20, 2015, 07:56:10 PM
We have a problem with electricity on in the DC. Tomorrow morning should be up and running.


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: crazyivan on May 21, 2015, 06:33:38 PM
We have a problem with electricity on in the DC. Tomorrow morning should be up and running.

What problem? What is going on?


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: flyingplows on May 21, 2015, 07:04:38 PM
We have a problem with electricity on in the DC. Tomorrow morning should be up and running.

What problem? What is going on?

Weren't you informed personally crazyivan? I suppose you are one of the biggest investors here, since you are so curious, and should know as much as the owners almost by now...

Sry... couldn't resist... ;)

1. ''a problem with electricity''
2. ''We have a problem with electricity''


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on May 28, 2015, 07:44:28 PM
The problem with electricity means no electricity.
If there is a cut off the deamons do not restart automatically.
So sometimes there is a mess ;)


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on June 14, 2015, 04:26:57 PM
2015-06-14 Price min/max, open/close:0.00050101 - 0.00051019, 0.00051019 - 0.00050101


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: flyingplows on June 19, 2015, 08:23:31 PM
How is you business sir? Still going strong? Somehow it was very silent here after all the noises from amhash fiasco... Planning some new stuff maybe? :)


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on June 22, 2015, 10:05:56 PM
Business as always ;) I think there's nothing much going on in the mining industry at the moment. Just steady mining. Unless we see a spike in price of bitcoin following Greece....


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on July 03, 2015, 07:43:01 PM
24h maintenance. Mining not affected.


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: Phantomofheat on October 02, 2015, 12:56:25 PM
Scam.

All records of mining stopped on 9-10-2015 and all withdraws result in an error.



Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on October 17, 2015, 02:25:49 PM
Hi

Mining is not profitable any more due to rising difficulty and low BTC price. You can redeem your shares at silver residual value.

Should you have any further queries please contact support at:
support @kryptologika.pl


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: OgNasty on October 20, 2015, 02:57:57 PM
Mining is not profitable any more due to rising difficulty and low BTC price. You can redeem your shares at silver residual value.

That is unfortunate.  You didn't have any kind of a plan in place for rising difficulty?


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: policyjnyKonfident on October 27, 2015, 07:11:40 PM
You are a joke.

Price is in the highest point since August, and difficulty has risen just about 12% since August 2015.

You are a joke!


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on November 13, 2015, 12:15:25 PM
11/13/2015

Due to stopped mining on 23/08/2015 the process of settlement of the residual value of the shares will be concluded on 30/11/2015. On that date trading will be suspended.

As for today the residual value of 1GH/s is 0.0000485BTC making it $16.00 per 1 TH/s on today's prices of BTC.  The price of 1oz of silver on Comex on today's date is $14.35.
Settlement of the residual value is guaranteed by the bid of 23337GH/s on the market which covers all the remaining shares.

If you choose to settle with physical coins Silver Eagles or Philharmonikers please contact us on l3sny@hotmail.com.
Postage within EU is free, costs for rest of the world is $5.00.

Should you have any further queries please contact us on support@kryptologika.pl

kryptologika team


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: l3sny on November 30, 2015, 07:54:17 AM
Mining is not profitable any more due to rising difficulty and low BTC price. You can redeem your shares at silver residual value.

That is unfortunate.  You didn't have any kind of a plan in place for rising difficulty?

According to T&C when mining stops to be profitable the shares can be redeemed according to the price of silver. This occured in August. There is no point in buying new hardware as it is quite too expensive. Currently we are offering almost $18 or physical coins. We also do not charge for postage anywhere in the world. The price of silver is lowest in 6.5 years - $14.


Title: Re: [KRYPTOLOGIKA] Trade silver-backed hash power for the best prices!
Post by: m4911 on October 26, 2017, 06:41:00 AM
@l3sny:
On 6th Jan 2016 I send email to support@kryptologika.pl with message that I want get back my BTC and shares  from kryptologika.pl. Also I send another emails  after that, but without any response.
Till today I didn't get any answers and any BTC/Shares from you. 

I know other people who didn't get back anything from kryptologika.pl  till today, despite we all tried to contact with support@kryptologika.pl many times. (in period when email was still active ).