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Title: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: CSE on September 10, 2014, 05:25:39 AM
For this poll I have listed the top 20 currencies/technologies on coinmarketcap in order of market cap from greatest to least up to #20.

I have allowed you the option to change your vote if you wish.

I am launching the Cryptographic Stock Exchange soon and prior to this launch I would like to see what the community thinks is currently the most innovative technology.


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: azguard on September 10, 2014, 05:38:34 AM
Prime will always be Bitcoin.

For other everyone is unique on his own way.
I mean every alt has his own way of mining and pricing on exchanges.



Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: gyhyq on September 10, 2014, 06:12:05 AM
BitsharesX


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: robrigo on September 10, 2014, 06:22:01 AM
BitsharesX

Agreed! But I can't vote yet. Excited about the % yield for holding BitAssets going to effect tomorrow.


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: nikola384 on September 10, 2014, 06:23:10 AM

I voted BTSX, for the record.


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: puppies on September 10, 2014, 06:27:11 AM
BTSX as well.


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: testz on September 10, 2014, 06:34:30 AM
+1 to BitShares family (BTSX)


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: Indemnified on September 10, 2014, 06:43:16 AM
Innovation after innovation in the Bitshares ecosystem.


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: Bobsurplus on September 10, 2014, 06:46:06 AM
Stealthcoin needs to be on that list due to off chain transactions, SMS and Stealthsend.


Just saying.


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: Robif on September 10, 2014, 07:05:12 AM
1. Bitshares ecosystem
2. Bitcoin ecosystem
3. Ethereum ecosystem


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: Willisius on September 10, 2014, 07:23:36 AM
Bitcoin, because of the blockchain, and the fact that it led to all this.


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: vizique on September 10, 2014, 07:28:34 AM
BlackCoin naturally

Viz


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: Momimaus on September 10, 2014, 07:35:10 AM

None of them. Ethereum obviously.

And you should put NEM and NODE on the list


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: serejandmyself on September 10, 2014, 08:55:55 AM
bitsharex


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: leon_92 on September 10, 2014, 09:00:11 AM
Bitsharesx ,no doubt! 8)


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: r3animation on September 10, 2014, 09:17:55 AM
Ethereum
eMunie
NXT

I would probably add Bitshares given its popularity to the list but I haven't read the whitepaper yet.


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: deejay on September 10, 2014, 09:19:31 AM
It would be nicer if the poll would say: 'Name your top 3 most innovative coins'.... now i had a hard time choosing between bitsharesX and nxt. Actually nxt has more features but i chose bitsharesX in the end.


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: stuartcharles on September 10, 2014, 09:35:43 AM
Bitshares all the way, they solved the problems with bitcoin

blockchain bloat with annual pruning
transaction speed, 10 seconds
price stability with bitusd
usability with titan
increased centralization of mining with DPOS

And they have only just begun.



Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: johncitizen on September 10, 2014, 10:33:05 AM
BitsharesX without a doubt.

It will be No.2 on coinmarket cap <6 months.



Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: deejay on September 10, 2014, 10:34:58 AM
No doubt that Ripple will prevent that by dropping another 20Billion of coins in the market

BitsharesX without a doubt.

It will be No.2 on coinmarket cap <6 months.




Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: Jungian on September 10, 2014, 11:37:00 AM
XCN should at least be a votable alternative.


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: testz on September 10, 2014, 11:55:28 AM
No doubt that Ripple will prevent that by dropping another 20Billion of coins in the market

BitsharesX without a doubt.

It will be No.2 on coinmarket cap <6 months.



LOL  :) I think this is what will happen.


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: chryspano on September 10, 2014, 03:21:30 PM
Voted for BitsharesX

Ripple soon enough will not be able to do those tricks for much longer, their 100% premined stack has limits. By the way, so far they get 0 for innovation.




Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: testz on September 10, 2014, 03:48:23 PM
Voted for BitsharesX

Ripple soon enough will not be able to do those tricks for much longer, their 100% premined stack has limits. By the way, so far they get 0 for innovation.

Unfortunately they have enough, today we can see 28,989,252,282 XRP, but Ripple Lab has 71,010,747,718 XRP more:
https://www.ripplelabs.com/xrp-distribution/


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: chryspano on September 10, 2014, 04:02:50 PM
Voted for BitsharesX

Ripple soon enough will not be able to do those tricks for much longer, their 100% premined stack has limits. By the way, so far they get 0 for innovation.

Unfortunately they have enough, today we can see 28,989,252,282 XRP, but Ripple Lab has 71,010,747,718 XRP more:
https://www.ripplelabs.com/xrp-distribution/

There are good chances to see bitshares at 1B marketcap in less than 6 months, 71B XRP won't be enough, maybe its an optimistic prediction but in any case I think we will get there finally.


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: larsson on September 10, 2014, 04:41:10 PM
please add NODEcoin
   
2n Gen. CryptoCurrency build from SCRATCH on NODE.JS
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=590421.0


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: brekyrself on September 10, 2014, 06:53:35 PM
Have to agree with BitShares.  It's great watching on their forum how united the dev team is with the user base to fix issues and add new features.  I have never seen this level of cooperation on any other project.


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: GaltReport on September 10, 2014, 07:17:52 PM
Yep, BitSharesX has my vote!!


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: dwma on September 10, 2014, 07:21:18 PM
Innovation is a moving target.  Bitshares X is hands down the most innovative currently, but that isn't to say NXT wasn't the most innovative before the release of BTSX.


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: CoinHoarder on September 10, 2014, 07:21:42 PM
I'd say BitsharesX and Nxt are somewhat tied.

Maidsafe, Storj, and Ethereum might be tied with those too, but they are vaporware right now so I think that is affecting the voting.

There are a lot of innovative cryptos out there though.. it is tough to say who is the most innovative.


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: particlewave on September 10, 2014, 07:27:42 PM
BitsharesX Decentralized Autonomous Company (Distributed Autonomous Organization).


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: ShroomsKit_Disgrace on September 10, 2014, 07:30:54 PM
NXT obviously.


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: thevampireskilledit on September 10, 2014, 07:31:17 PM
Bitshares X got my vote. There's also an amazing helpful community there...for now.


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: justahack on September 10, 2014, 07:32:26 PM
Definitely BitShares X. With all respect to NXT, which has good people and good intentions, nothing even comes close to what BTSX is rolling out.


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: ExtraSpecialBitter on September 10, 2014, 07:40:53 PM
Bitshares X   !!!!!


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: infovortice2013 on September 10, 2014, 07:45:42 PM
i think btsX left you easy access of any resource to make your best inversion, also scalable power and dividens for hold. Left you win in some differents ways. my vote go to BitsharesX.


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: btcxyzzz on September 10, 2014, 08:30:24 PM
Ethereum is not on the list?


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: Amph on September 10, 2014, 08:33:52 PM
bitcoin, the only non-clone


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: testz on September 10, 2014, 08:40:18 PM
Ethereum is not on the list?

From OP: "For this poll I have listed the top 20 currencies/technologies on coinmarketcap in order of market cap from greatest to least up to #20."


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: leigh2k14 on September 10, 2014, 08:45:57 PM
I voted XC because it's due to release coinjoin killer on monday.


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: customminer on September 10, 2014, 09:07:35 PM
Definetley bitshares-x.
I was a die-hard fanboy of btc/ltc/grc, but now see the light in DPOS. I'll be pointing my incoming kncminer TITAN at a multipool to mine for btsx. Market pegged assets, TITAN and DPOS are massive breakthroughs in the cryptocurrency scene.


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: onealfa on September 10, 2014, 09:17:48 PM
Funny to see some plp voting for ...doge  :)


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: juicyjuice87 on September 10, 2014, 09:19:02 PM
Who are these fuk wits talking up btsx


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: 25hashcoin on September 10, 2014, 09:55:23 PM
Who are these fuk wits talking up btsx


+1 lol. In on troll thread.


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: CoinHoarder on September 10, 2014, 11:53:49 PM
Who are these fuk wits talking up btsx


+1 lol. In on troll thread.

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/040/447/Haters_gonna_hate.jpg


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: MarkyRamone on September 11, 2014, 01:46:27 AM
BitsharesX of course.
Decentralized bank where you can hold your savings in a multicurrency account.
Free forex trading inside.
10 seconds confirmation time (more secure than bitcoin after 6 blocks)
And ... You can be a shareholder in the bank and win dividens.
Lots of innovation.


And the devs are not only great at concept level but also implementing ... Go check the code.


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: eddyubachs on September 11, 2014, 01:52:04 AM
bitcoin for me  :)


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: Tuck Fheman on September 11, 2014, 02:14:27 AM
BTSX


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: homm88 on September 11, 2014, 05:07:03 AM
I once a significant issue having a NXT transaction. I went along to a second forum on accident and so they basically tried to bury my questions. That is only part of the reason I dislike NXT. On the main forum though I've had positive experiences.



Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: devphp on September 11, 2014, 05:25:15 AM
I once a significant issue having a NXT transaction. I went along to a second forum on accident and so they basically tried to bury my questions. That is only part of the reason I dislike NXT. On the main forum though I've had positive experiences.

That's part of user experience too, but you shouldn't be confusing technology and community, not even the entire community but some of the members. You will never ever get a unanimous opinion on anything in any community, this has nothing to do with the technology though. Opinion on the technology should not be based on the community, it would be just a plain stupid thing to do, and you could miss a lot of opportunities if you follow that course. Especially in crypto currencies you will see a lot of bad actors, trolls and other not very pleasant to deal with persons, again, use your common sense when you make deals and ignore trolls.


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: DarkhorseofNxt on September 11, 2014, 05:47:47 AM
Probably one should compare number of technologies achieved by a coin.

http://www.nxttechnologytree.com/


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: sidhujag on September 11, 2014, 06:43:24 AM
btsx trumps all and price is about to prove it.


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: sidhujag on September 11, 2014, 06:47:40 AM
bitcoin, the only non-clone

uhh your so last year!


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: devphp on September 11, 2014, 07:00:09 AM
bitcoin, the only non-clone

uhh your so last year!

haha, yes (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=766406.0).


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: Passion_ltc on September 11, 2014, 07:36:15 AM
I don't see Crypti there. Its Proof-of-Time and Proof-of-Purchase algorithms are the most innovative right now.


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: serejandmyself on September 11, 2014, 08:47:47 AM
Who is voting for dogecoin?  ??? :) Whoever that is you need ti share with all of us what it is you smoking  :)


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: btcxyzzz on September 11, 2014, 12:12:47 PM
BTSX, putting all my assets into it as we speak.


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: CLains on September 11, 2014, 12:13:43 PM
BitShares X no doubt because of the way the on chain market tracks the price of real world assets. Most people didn't understand it, and among those intelligent few who did, the majority didn't believe it would work.


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: Istanbul34 on September 11, 2014, 01:27:27 PM
NXT


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: G1ng3rBr34dM4n on September 11, 2014, 01:27:38 PM
BitSharesX

Solves some pretty big problems IMO:
  • transaction times (10 seconds flat, 5 on average)
  • volatility (bitAssets, like bitUSD)
  • profitable (bitcoin, as a system - operates at a net loss... how sustainable is that??)

Also - poll seems faulty - I don't have the option to vote... I can just see the results


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: McDoxy on September 11, 2014, 01:33:58 PM
BitShares X no doubt because of the way the on chain market tracks the price of real world assets. Most people didn't understand it, and among those intelligent few who did, the majority didn't believe it would work.

If it actually "works" still remains to be seen.

Don't assume because people don't believe in it they don't understand it. Because there are about 4 hypotheses from bitshares that still have to be proven... I understand what bitshares is trying to do and I understand their hypotheses. I still don't believe it will work in the longterm. And just because it's running for a couple of weeks now doesn't mean those hypotheses are proven. We will talk in about a year and see where the prices of the market pegged assets are.


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: Jungian on September 11, 2014, 01:36:43 PM
BitShares X no doubt because of the way the on chain market tracks the price of real world assets. Most people didn't understand it, and among those intelligent few who did, the majority didn't believe it would work.

If it actually "works" still remains to be seen.

Don't assume because people don't believe in it they don't understand it. Because there are about 4 hypotheses from bitshares that still have to be proven... I understand what bitshares is trying to do and I understand their hypotheses. I still don't believe it will work in the longterm. And just because it's running for a couple of weeks now doesn't mean those hypotheses are proven. We will talk in about a year and see where the prices of the market pegged assets are.

This.

The market peg broke in the first week as well I think? Seems to be holding for now after they put some training wheels on, but I don't know. We'll see...


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: cryptoglance on September 11, 2014, 01:37:27 PM
Wondering why Reddcoin (http://reddcoin.com) is not a vote option. It truly is innovative with:

  • Social X (http://www.reddit.com/r/reddCoin/comments/2fncbj/social_x_architecture_of_a_decentralised_system/)
  • Social Wallet (http://www.reddit.com/r/reddCoin/comments/2cva3k/im_proud_to_announce_the_release_of_the_social/)
  • PoSV (http://www.reddcoin.com/papers/PoSV_FAQ.pdf)
  • ReddAPI (https://www.reddapi.com/)

...and a dedicated, talented dev team.

If anything, it could serve as a great catalyst towards getting the masses to adopt cryptocurrency.


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: jabbajabba on September 11, 2014, 02:26:00 PM
NXT step aside for Bitshares X


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: freenxt.org on September 11, 2014, 02:32:45 PM
NXT is the first coin going from being just a currency to a whole ecosystem by itself.
Its not about investing into the coin to get more fiat money in the end.

This is the most innovative technology in this space imo.


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: zuqka on September 11, 2014, 02:49:38 PM
NXT step aside for Bitshares X

In your dreams ;D


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: McDoxy on September 11, 2014, 02:55:23 PM
I'll just leave this here:

http://www.nxttechnologytree.com/


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: testz on September 11, 2014, 03:00:47 PM
Comparing Nxt to BitShares it's a same as to compare Microsoft and Apple, doing same but in different ways. I prefer the BitShares, Nxt looks too complicated and complexity just growing.

http://news.softpedia.com/images/news2/Bill-Gates-Claims-Windows-8-Has-Done-Well-2.png


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: serejandmyself on September 11, 2014, 03:15:41 PM
Comparing Nxt to BitShares it's a same as to compare Microsoft and Apple, doing same but in different ways. I prefer the BitShares, Nxt looks too complicated and complexity just growing.

http://news.softpedia.com/images/news2/Bill-Gates-Claims-Windows-8-Has-Done-Well-2.png

I'd say its more like android (bithsraes) and windows phone (nxt)  ;)


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: testz on September 11, 2014, 03:22:11 PM
Comparing Nxt to BitShares it's a same as to compare Microsoft and Apple, doing same but in different ways. I prefer the BitShares, Nxt looks too complicated and complexity just growing.


I'd say its more like android (bithsraes) and windows phone (nxt)  ;)

Definitely not as android, with android you can do all what you want, in BitShares you can do only that you supposed to do.
With SuperNet, Nxt definitely = android. ;)


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: ShroomsKit_Disgrace on September 11, 2014, 03:40:30 PM
I'll just leave this here:

http://www.nxttechnologytree.com/



 :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o    :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: chryspano on September 11, 2014, 04:15:01 PM
I'll just leave this here:

http://www.nxttechnologytree.com/

If you call your 1 minute blocks "instant transactions" how would you call the 10 secs of Bitshares? Faster Than Light confirmations?


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: chryspano on September 11, 2014, 04:31:00 PM
I'll just leave this here:

http://www.nxttechnologytree.com/

If you call your 1 minute blocks "instant transactions" how would you call the 10 secs of Bitshares? Faster Than Light confirmations?

its not implemented yet.. shaded circle = not yet finished.

for the record.. node actually does have instant transactions of around 1-3 seconds i think.

The above "technologytree" gave the impression that it's already implemented, by the time this will be implemented(IF it's implemented at all because afaik its almost a year since we heard about "instant transactions") the competition will also have something better , my point is that this very moment we have 1 minute for NXT and 10 sec for bitshares and both are trying to improve those times.


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: omgnaro on September 11, 2014, 04:41:58 PM
Wondering why Reddcoin (http://reddcoin.com) is not a vote option. It truly is innovative with:

  • Social X (http://www.reddit.com/r/reddCoin/comments/2fncbj/social_x_architecture_of_a_decentralised_system/)
  • Social Wallet (http://www.reddit.com/r/reddCoin/comments/2cva3k/im_proud_to_announce_the_release_of_the_social/)
  • PoSV (http://www.reddcoin.com/papers/PoSV_FAQ.pdf)
  • ReddAPI (https://www.reddapi.com/)

...and a dedicated, talented dev team.

If anything, it could serve as a great catalyst towards getting the masses to adopt cryptocurrency.

Gonna have to +1 this.



Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: erok on September 11, 2014, 04:43:11 PM
Nxt lolno. Shadow coin is legit right now. I am also currently looking at boom, xst, and pnd. Check em out. They are actually fairlaunch and real cryptos.


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: testz on September 11, 2014, 04:43:31 PM
The above "technologytree" gave the impression that it's already implemented, by the time this will be implemented(IF it's implemented at all because afaik its almost a year since we heard about "instant transactions") the competition will also have something better , my point is that this very moment we have 1 minute for NXT and 10 sec for bitshares and both are trying to improve those times.

Just for you information, BitShares toolkit supports 2 seconds transactions which was proved by testnet, but for BitSharesX was defined as 10 sec because it's suitable enough.


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: devphp on September 11, 2014, 04:48:47 PM
NXT is about building economy on top of the blockchain, Instant Transactions per self have no much use at this moment, what are their use cases anyway? They will be coded when there is a need for them.


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: testz on September 11, 2014, 04:57:23 PM
NXT is about building economy on top of the blockchain, Instant Transactions per self have no much use at this moment, what are their use cases anyway? They will be coded when there is a need for them.

For BitSharesX it's important "by design" if merchants start to accept BitUSD, BitCNY, etc.


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: devphp on September 11, 2014, 05:02:03 PM
For BitSharesX it's important "by design" if merchants start to accept BitUSD, BitCNY, etc.

I see. Well, even in NXT Asset Exchange there is not much use for instant transactions. You don't need to rush trades to get the best deals, patience is the best virtue for trading.

Perhaps instant transactions will be useful for NXT when things like NXT Poker are developed later this year? It's all growing organically, some features are prioritized, some are postponed, because there are no applications for them yet.

https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FtCDmFN0.jpg&t=544&c=TcaTNtH004KLJQ (https://nxtforum.org/index.php?board=67.0)


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: testz on September 11, 2014, 05:28:02 PM
For BitSharesX it's important "by design" if merchants start to accept BitUSD, BitCNY, etc.

I see. Well, even in NXT Asset Exchange there is not much use for instant transactions. You don't need to rush trades to get the best deals, patience is the best virtue for trading.

Perhaps instant transactions will be useful for NXT when things like NXT Poker are developed later this year? It's all growing organically, some features are prioritized, some are postponed, because there are no applications for them yet.


I agree that instant transaction required when system has use cases for it.


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: visual111 on September 11, 2014, 06:23:38 PM
nxt...so much going on there


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: merlin0113 on September 11, 2014, 06:40:27 PM
 :)Where is my huntercoin? So sad...


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: Ted_Dibiase on September 11, 2014, 07:19:31 PM
Bitshares X hands down!


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: chairoverflow on September 11, 2014, 09:50:01 PM
SuperNet is coming with teleportation technology.And it has made huge BTC raise.Lets see where it takes place after hitting the market.


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: juicyjuice87 on September 11, 2014, 10:26:44 PM
I would buy btsx but it's clearly a bubble. All this market manipulation doesn't help it's corse either


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: chryspano on September 11, 2014, 10:54:36 PM
I would buy btsx but it's clearly a bubble. All this market manipulation doesn't help it's corse either

Some of the nxt supporters are really funny, you name your super slow 1 minute block time as "instant transactions", you are talking about "teleportation technology" in this "supernet" thing that an anonymous developer promised to deliver to you and you are more than happy to give him your money. At the same time you spread FUD about anything that is superior to your nxt and you feel it threatens you. You really look like all those monero spammers in the forum. In any case good luck with your "instant transactions", "teleportation technology", "supernet thing", "super duper wow something!!" thinking.

Just curious, are you one of the 73 initial nxt "investors"?


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: Momimaus on September 11, 2014, 11:58:07 PM

None of them. Ethereum NEM obviously.

And you should put NEM and NODE on the list

ftfy :)

No no, biggest and best NEM of course  :D

But most innovative was requested. And that will be Ethereum cause they try to do the impossible.


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: dwma on September 12, 2014, 12:15:04 AM
I would buy btsx but it's clearly a bubble. All this market manipulation doesn't help it's corse either

Some of the nxt supporters are really funny, you name your super slow 1 minute block time as "instant transactions", you are talking about "teleportation technology" in this "supernet" thing that an anonymous developer promised to deliver to you and you are more than happy to give him your money. At the same time you spread FUD about anything that is superior to your nxt and you feel it threatens you. You really look like all those monero spammers in the forum. In any case good luck with your "instant transactions", "teleportation technology", "supernet thing", "super duper wow something!!" thinking.

Just curious, are you one of the 73 initial nxt "investors"?

I've changed my vote after learning NXT now has a teleporter !!!!!!!!!


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: juicyjuice87 on September 12, 2014, 02:51:55 AM
I would buy btsx but it's clearly a bubble. All this market manipulation doesn't help it's corse either

Some of the nxt supporters are really funny, you name your super slow 1 minute block time as "instant transactions", you are talking about "teleportation technology" in this "supernet" thing that an anonymous developer promised to deliver to you and you are more than happy to give him your money. At the same time you spread FUD about anything that is superior to your nxt and you feel it threatens you. You really look like all those monero spammers in the forum. In any case good luck with your "instant transactions", "teleportation technology", "supernet thing", "super duper wow something!!" thinking.

Just curious, are you one of the 73 initial nxt "investors"?

Oh sorry. I thought this was a obvious troll thread. Any who. Shits about to get real! Go NXT!


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: juicyjuice87 on September 12, 2014, 02:54:32 AM
For BitSharesX it's important "by design" if merchants start to accept BitUSD, BitCNY, etc.

I see. Well, even in NXT Asset Exchange there is not much use for instant transactions. You don't need to rush trades to get the best deals, patience is the best virtue for trading.

Perhaps instant transactions will be useful for NXT when things like NXT Poker are developed later this year? It's all growing organically, some features are prioritized, some are postponed, because there are no applications for them yet.

https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FtCDmFN0.jpg&t=544&c=TcaTNtH004KLJQ (https://nxtforum.org/index.php?board=67.0)

Looks mad! Is there an asset i csn buy for Nxtpoker?


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: virgojeep on September 12, 2014, 03:31:56 AM
You should make a website exclusively for this poll.


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: sidhujag on September 12, 2014, 06:03:41 AM
I would buy btsx but it's clearly a bubble. All this market manipulation doesn't help it's corse either

Some of the nxt supporters are really funny, you name your super slow 1 minute block time as "instant transactions", you are talking about "teleportation technology" in this "supernet" thing that an anonymous developer promised to deliver to you and you are more than happy to give him your money. At the same time you spread FUD about anything that is superior to your nxt and you feel it threatens you. You really look like all those monero spammers in the forum. In any case good luck with your "instant transactions", "teleportation technology", "supernet thing", "super duper wow something!!" thinking.

Just curious, are you one of the 73 initial nxt "investors"?
Heh Id laugh if supernet dev walks away with the btc... anyways if supernet flops it will give nxt a black eye and competition a big boost.


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: EvilDave on September 12, 2014, 06:26:19 AM
I would buy btsx but it's clearly a bubble. All this market manipulation doesn't help it's corse either

Some of the nxt supporters are really funny, you name your super slow 1 minute block time as "instant transactions", you are talking about "teleportation technology" in this "supernet" thing that an anonymous developer promised to deliver to you and you are more than happy to give him your money. At the same time you spread FUD about anything that is superior to your nxt and you feel it threatens you. You really look like all those monero spammers in the forum. In any case good luck with your "instant transactions", "teleportation technology", "supernet thing", "super duper wow something!!" thinking.

Just curious, are you one of the 73 initial nxt "investors"?

Dude! You're not helping the reputation of BTSX by obviously not being able to read the thread.
'Instant Transactions' is not yet implemented in NXT....it is not the same as NXTs native one minute block time.

Teleport tech is being developed for BTCD, which will be a core part of the SuperNET.
SuperNET looks like a good investment, you've never invested in a promising new crypto project, chryspano?

And, yup,  jl777 is somewhat anonymous.......but isn't that part of the core concept of crypto ?
To be able to be anonymous while still running a major project.....try that on Wall St.

Got any examples of NXT'ers spreading FUD ?
Let's see some evidence to back up your emotional claims.......


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: Jungian on September 12, 2014, 08:10:07 AM
Looks mad! Is there an asset i csn buy for Nxtpoker?

Yes and no. There is an asset, but it's not for sale until the client is released. Which is a good thing of course, we can all see if it works before investing.


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: chryspano on September 12, 2014, 09:10:56 AM
Quote
Dude! You're not helping the reputation of BTSX by obviously not being able to read the thread.
'Instant Transactions' is not yet implemented in NXT....it is not the same as NXTs native one minute block time.

Teleport tech is being developed for BTCD, which will be a core part of the SuperNET.
SuperNET looks like a good investment, you've never invested in a promising new crypto project, chryspano?

And, yup,  jl777 is somewhat anonymous.......but isn't that part of the core concept of crypto ?
To be able to be anonymous while still running a major project.....try that on Wall St.

Got any examples of NXT'ers spreading FUD ?
Let's see some evidence to back up your emotional claims.......

If instant transactions is not implemented yet, then some people should stop reacting like its already implemented, or as if its a mater of hours to be implemented.

Anonymity is good but not when money is involved and I'm not just talking about a simple runaway like pirate40 did. I have a bad feeling about this but it isn't my money anyway.

I'm not going to start a FUD posts collection, don't play ignorant,  you know that there is no smoke without fire. 


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: asdlolciterquit on September 12, 2014, 09:21:51 AM
I've voted bitshares X, but only because in the list there isn't NEM.


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: NeuroticFish on September 12, 2014, 09:29:57 AM
I don't know that many coins, but I'd say:

1. Bitcoin - blockchain and the whole concept.

others worth mentioning, with no particular order:

* Monero and its CN predecessor(s) for the anonimity
* Heavycoin (maybe I am wrong?) for getting us to the concept of using multiple combined algos


There may be others with big merits, but I don't know them all. I promise I'll learn more. Honestly.


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: devphp on September 12, 2014, 09:32:01 AM
Anonymity is good but not when money is involved and I'm not just talking about a simple runaway like pirate40 did. I have a bad feeling about this but it isn't my money anyway.

Knowing identity of Karpeles didn't help Mt.Gox customers.
Personally I like that jl777's identity is anonymous, that way it's harder for hitmen to make him a target.


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: /dev/null on September 12, 2014, 09:32:59 AM
I'm voting for Bitcoin obviously. Although CryptoNote currencies deserve a closer look.


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: brekyrself on September 12, 2014, 04:59:46 PM
BitShares has brought a lot of new innovation to the scene and here are some examples.


ELI5 threads (Explain like I'm 5)
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=8027.0

Start here to read the background on DPOS algorithm:
http://wiki.bitshares.org/index.php/DPOS

Continue here to read about the security and simplicity of sending to names instead of addresses:
http://wiki.bitshares.org/index.php/TITAN

Listen to this episode from a few weeks back:
Let's talk Bitcoin! episode 129.  Starts around 12 minute mark with the lead dev Dan.  Great listen.
http://letstalkbitcoin.com/blog/post/lets-talk-bitcoin-129-dogeparty-and-delegated-proof-of-stake

Which leads to the asset exchange:
http://wiki.bitshares.org/index.php/Bitshares_X

BitUSD market peg has been working
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=8358.0

Finally finish up with this to really get you thinking about where bitcoin ideology will go:
http://bitshares.org/overstock-to-cryptostock/


With all the above were just scratching the surface of possibilities.


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: cryptodaknight on September 12, 2014, 05:13:38 PM
Why is SYSCOIN not on this list?  :o


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: testz on September 12, 2014, 05:45:39 PM
Why is SYSCOIN not on this list?  :o

Check OP, only top 20 from http://coinmarketcap.com/


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: JohnDing on September 12, 2014, 07:23:22 PM
I think http://iCoinHost.org also has a lots renovations, so Asset Backed Coin[ABC] should also listed on it.


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: Tradingriver on September 12, 2014, 07:48:41 PM
if i could vote i would vote for bitshares

in my opinion it is attractive also for people who want to save USD but don't want to trust banks.

bitUSD is just a great idea. and i will get a yield for holding it.


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: Didledy on September 12, 2014, 07:48:47 PM
I'm wondering how many posts I need to have made in order to vote.
BitsharesX is phenomenal, and when all the other stuff in the Bitshares pipeline is considered it seems hard to beat in terms of innovation.
The SAFE project is really groundbreaking too, with incredibly far-reaching potential. So MaidSafeCoin I think is very important. I wonder when it'll be possible to redeem SafeCoin..


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: Didledy on September 12, 2014, 07:57:38 PM
After BitsharesX and MaidSafeCoin, there are others that are worthy of mention.

I would pick NXT, Ripple, Bitcoin.

Having said that, to be fair, some of those in the list I know little about... ???


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: CoinHoarder on September 12, 2014, 09:02:30 PM
After BitsharesX and MaidSafeCoin, there are others that are worthy of mention.

I would pick NXT, Ripple, Bitcoin.

Having said that, to be fair, some of those in the list I know little about... ???

You forgot to log into your other account.  :D


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: Didledy on September 12, 2014, 09:16:02 PM
After BitsharesX and MaidSafeCoin, there are others that are worthy of mention.

I would pick NXT, Ripple, Bitcoin.

Having said that, to be fair, some of those in the list I know little about... ???

You forgot to log into your other account.  :D

It was just a follow-up to my previous post. I thought there were a few more in the list which I should've praised because there's so much quality crypto about!

Also, I quite fancy having enough posts to enable me to vote ;D

I'm a way off at the moment...

edit: I'm not even 100% sure which one I'd vote for though. I just don't like not being able to vote. I suppose I'll have to spend more time on this forum :o


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: CoinHoarder on September 12, 2014, 09:19:46 PM
After BitsharesX and MaidSafeCoin, there are others that are worthy of mention.

I would pick NXT, Ripple, Bitcoin.

Having said that, to be fair, some of those in the list I know little about... ???

You forgot to log into your other account.  :D

It was just a follow-up to my previous post. I thought there were a few more in the list which I should've praised because there's so much quality crypto about!

Also, I quite fancy having enough posts to enable me to vote ;D

I'm a way off at the moment...

Ah yeah, I guess I should of read your post before saying that.. I can see how it was a follow up post now.

My bad, carry on. ;D


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: merockstar on September 12, 2014, 10:15:19 PM
BitShares. IPO in a Box, incoming influx of DACs. DPOS. Titan. BitAssets.


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: liondani on September 13, 2014, 01:09:43 PM
BitSharesX

Anybody reading this  can consider himself as a VERY EARLY adopter ...
Step... outside the box... NOW  ;)


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: slavix on September 14, 2014, 05:19:32 AM
BitShares are great!


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: timedelay on September 14, 2014, 01:54:18 PM
Of course darkcoin.  ;)


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: Gentso1 on September 14, 2014, 01:56:56 PM
BitSharesX

Anybody reading this  can consider himself as a VERY EARLY adopter ...
Step... outside the box... NOW  ;)
bitcoin is obviously the biggest jumping off point for all of the coins above so great credit goes to them.
As far as the next big innovation after that
BitsharesX
NXT
Monero
Ripple
In that order


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: geometric_series on September 14, 2014, 04:32:39 PM
NXT and BTS.


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: Mysto on September 25, 2014, 08:13:24 AM
Never even looked at altcoins until bitshares "converted" me.


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: d5000 on September 25, 2014, 11:50:06 AM
Peercoin.

There would be no NXT and no BitSharesX without Proof-of-stake, and PPC was the first mover here (and Sunny King is one of the inventors of the concept).


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: Chillin_with_beer on September 25, 2014, 11:55:52 AM
Peercoin. It's the original POS coin, and PPC is where the real POS innovation happens.


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: Chillin_with_beer on September 25, 2014, 12:23:30 PM
Peercoin. It's the original POS coin, and PPC is where the real POS innovation happens.
have you even used the nxt client? :D
stacking feature upon feature is not innovation, and according to the trade volume, also not very interesting.


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: d5000 on September 25, 2014, 12:30:45 PM
The NXT client looks good aesthetically, but is terribly bloated with things I would like to see as a plugin or a completely separate software, like the Marketplace and the AE.


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: StealthCoin1 on September 25, 2014, 12:39:35 PM
Bitcoin shouldn't be in the lists because it's the Godfather of all.


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: d5000 on September 25, 2014, 12:52:45 PM
The NXT client looks good aesthetically, but is terribly bloated with things I would like to see as a plugin or a completely separate software, like the Marketplace and the AE.

it could be better planned but what would be your reasoning in making the AE/marketplace completely separate? not sure i see the sense in doing that.

having a page dedicated for selecting what you want in your client i think is a good idea.. something like the app store on android but it would have to be easily accessible and easy to find

For example, a conservative user who wants to use NXT only as a standard currency, perhaps doesnt' want to see all the drugs & porn offered in the Marketplace ;)

But disregarding this, I think the main client should do only the basic functions of a cryptocurrency client and do them well (e.g. Unix philosophy). The bloated standard Java client consumes a LOT of memory actually, much more than the clients of the Bitcoin family. I don't say AE/Marketplace should be completely separate, but as Marketplace and AE actions are ordinary coin transfers or messaging, I don't see why in the standard client there should be a gui for it. Ideally the Marketplace/AE should be plugins.


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: ShroomsKit_Disgrace on September 25, 2014, 12:57:48 PM

For example, a conservative user who wants to use NXT only as a standard currency, perhaps doesnt' want to see all the drugs & porn offered in the Marketplace ;)



In fact, the user have to search for the specific good in the marketplace in the client. By default, it shows nothing.

So, please don't spread FUD and be ignorant.



Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: Radelderth on September 25, 2014, 01:13:20 PM
Darkcoin!!


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: d5000 on September 25, 2014, 01:47:20 PM
I had seen a version of the NXT client where the "latest items" of the Marketplace were visible to everyone. Perhaps it was an old client, I don't know.

I am an original NXT stakeholder and still have some NXT, so I won't spread FUD about this coin, but I don't like the actual design of the client. I would like a "bloated" client for people who need it, and a basic client for those who only need the basic functions. I don't think the NXT client is "innovative" in some way; AE, Marketplace and Leased Forging as a mechanism are innovative, but the original PoS coin is Peercoin. That's all I wanted to say here ;)


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: delulo on September 27, 2014, 09:40:40 AM
Bitshares all the way, they solved the problems with bitcoin

blockchain bloat with annual pruning
transaction speed, 10 seconds
price stability with bitusd
usability with titan
increased centralization of mining with DPOS

And they have only just begun.


+1


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: sidhujag on September 27, 2014, 09:45:25 AM
Bitshares all the way, they solved the problems with bitcoin

blockchain bloat with annual pruning
transaction speed, 10 seconds
price stability with bitusd
usability with titan
increased centralization of mining with DPOS

And they have only just begun.


+1
+2


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: sidhujag on September 27, 2014, 09:47:37 AM
The NXT client looks good aesthetically, but is terribly bloated with things I would like to see as a plugin or a completely separate software, like the Marketplace and the AE.

it could be better planned but what would be your reasoning in making the AE/marketplace completely separate? not sure i see the sense in doing that.

having a page dedicated for selecting what you want in your client i think is a good idea.. something like the app store on android but it would have to be easily accessible and easy to find

For example, a conservative user who wants to use NXT only as a standard currency, perhaps doesnt' want to see all the drugs & porn offered in the Marketplace ;)

But disregarding this, I think the main client should do only the basic functions of a cryptocurrency client and do them well (e.g. Unix philosophy). The bloated standard Java client consumes a LOT of memory actually, much more than the clients of the Bitcoin family. I don't say AE/Marketplace should be completely separate, but as Marketplace and AE actions are ordinary coin transfers or messaging, I don't see why in the standard client there should be a gui for it. Ideally the Marketplace/AE should be plugins.

the marketplace doesnt show the items for sale.. you gota find the itemID and search for it.. the marketplace could only sell drugs and porn and lots of it but that wouldnt matter because users would not know the ID and therefore would not see it. i dont like the way the marketplace is or the fact that nothing shows unless you know what your looking for.. but it was the best of a bad situation..

i havnt checked memory usage of the client but its never affected the running of my computer in any way so i dont see that as an issue tbh. plugins would be good too..
syscoin is implementing this in a better way.. thin vs fat clients


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: Mysto on September 27, 2014, 03:56:44 PM
Bitcoin shouldn't be in the lists because it's the Godfather of all.

Yea I agree without bitcoin there might not be any altcoin. It should be "What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology After Bitcoin?"


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: Bisha on September 27, 2014, 09:36:27 PM
Bitshares all the way, they solved the problems with bitcoin

blockchain bloat with annual pruning
transaction speed, 10 seconds
price stability with bitusd
usability with titan
increased centralization of mining with DPOS

And they have only just begun.


+1
+2
I have to agree with that


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: Zer0Sum on September 27, 2014, 10:38:45 PM
BitSharesX

Solves some pretty big problems IMO:
  • transaction times (10 seconds flat, 5 on average)
  • volatility (bitAssets, like bitUSD)
  • profitable (bitcoin, as a system - operates at a net loss... how sustainable is that??)

Also - poll seems faulty - I don't have the option to vote... I can just see the results

This thread is being spammed by sock puppets... but NXT wins poll by 2:1 margin.

The BTSX pegs will crumble... when REAL volatility comes along...
If they cannot be SETTLED for fiat or physical commodity they will fail in a spectacular fashion. Ka-boom.


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: Bitcoin Fiction on September 28, 2014, 12:09:14 AM
BitSharesX

Solves some pretty big problems IMO:
  • transaction times (10 seconds flat, 5 on average)
  • volatility (bitAssets, like bitUSD)
  • profitable (bitcoin, as a system - operates at a net loss... how sustainable is that??)

Also - poll seems faulty - I don't have the option to vote... I can just see the results

This thread is being spammed by sock puppets... but NXT wins poll by 2:1 margin.

The BTSX pegs will crumble... when REAL volatility comes along...
If they cannot be SETTLED for fiat or physical commodity they will fail in a spectacular fashion. Ka-boom.

Interesting statement about cause-and-effect relationships between volatility and it's connection to the fiat world


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: fivebells on September 28, 2014, 12:47:40 AM
The list in the OP seems very limited.  I am surprised that burst and truthcoin didn't make it.


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: brekyrself on September 28, 2014, 01:09:17 AM
BitSharesX

Solves some pretty big problems IMO:
  • transaction times (10 seconds flat, 5 on average)
  • volatility (bitAssets, like bitUSD)
  • profitable (bitcoin, as a system - operates at a net loss... how sustainable is that??)

Also - poll seems faulty - I don't have the option to vote... I can just see the results

This thread is being spammed by sock puppets... but NXT wins poll by 2:1 margin.

The BTSX pegs will crumble... when REAL volatility comes along...
If they cannot be SETTLED for fiat or physical commodity they will fail in a spectacular fashion. Ka-boom.

Can you please run through an example to show how it will crumble?  I noticed Bter has a market for BitUSD/USD thus could get out directly?


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: bitcoinxiaoshan on September 28, 2014, 01:17:17 AM
BTSX for sure


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: bitcoin carpenter on September 28, 2014, 01:18:57 AM
Korecoin. ...

Download the qt and you can make anon calls.
Also POB is on the way


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: sidhujag on September 28, 2014, 03:13:06 AM
syscoin has aliases, data storage, decentralized marketplace, certificates now doing decentralized exchange of all these services and assets. Dont know anything that competes with this.. btsx is good and does assets well but doesnt have the rest.


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: vipgelsi on September 28, 2014, 03:14:13 AM
I love solarcoin. ;D


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: Bitcoin Fiction on September 28, 2014, 06:16:12 PM
The list in the OP seems very limited.  I am surprised that burst and truthcoin didn't make it.

The list of the coins doesn't need to be long. Here is only coins which are REALLY innovative and have NEW features unlike coins out of the list


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: Zer0Sum on September 28, 2014, 07:48:17 PM
BitSharesX

Solves some pretty big problems IMO:
  • transaction times (10 seconds flat, 5 on average)
  • volatility (bitAssets, like bitUSD)
  • profitable (bitcoin, as a system - operates at a net loss... how sustainable is that??)

Also - poll seems faulty - I don't have the option to vote... I can just see the results

This thread is being spammed by sock puppets... but NXT wins poll by 2:1 margin.

The BTSX pegs will crumble... when REAL volatility comes along...
If they cannot be SETTLED for fiat or physical commodity they will fail in a spectacular fashion. Ka-boom.

Can you please run through an example to show how it will crumble?  I noticed Bter has a market for BitUSD/USD thus could get out directly?

Well, the world's commodity exchanges for > 100 years...
Have relied on SETTLEMENT in commodity (corn) or cash (USD) on a specific date...
To maintain viabililty and order on their exchanges... especially when things get crazy.

So BitShares (a bunch of academics and coders)...
Is saying that all these silly market professionals have been wrong for a century...
They have a simple way to replace compulsory settlement.

So, great, their "pegs" are holding to within 5% in dead markets...
In a market that's 80% Chinese traders and totally manipulated...
Wait till some real volatility comes along... a 20% swing in one of their "pegs".

Then we will see... the Bitshare markets will likely stop trading... and people will get screwed.

For example, short positions are "closed out" with a 5% penalty when margin runs out.
The above sentence assumes an orderly market and BIDS and OFFERS.

What if there are no bids/offers? What happens to shorts/longs that are >>> bankrupt?

They could have paid a consultant from the Chicago Board of Trade $10,000 to AUDIT BitShares...
You know, a market professional not some economics professor or C coder...
Then I could have had faith in their approach...
But these types of people always insist of reinventing the wheel in a vaccum.


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: brekyrself on September 28, 2014, 09:59:32 PM
BitSharesX

Solves some pretty big problems IMO:
  • transaction times (10 seconds flat, 5 on average)
  • volatility (bitAssets, like bitUSD)
  • profitable (bitcoin, as a system - operates at a net loss... how sustainable is that??)

Also - poll seems faulty - I don't have the option to vote... I can just see the results

This thread is being spammed by sock puppets... but NXT wins poll by 2:1 margin.

The BTSX pegs will crumble... when REAL volatility comes along...
If they cannot be SETTLED for fiat or physical commodity they will fail in a spectacular fashion. Ka-boom.

Can you please run through an example to show how it will crumble?  I noticed Bter has a market for BitUSD/USD thus could get out directly?

Well, the world's commodity exchanges for > 100 years...
Have relied on SETTLEMENT in commodity (corn) or cash (USD) on a specific date...
To maintain viabililty and order on their exchanges... especially when things get crazy.

So BitShares (a bunch of academics and coders)...
Is saying that all these silly market professionals have been wrong for a century...
They have a simple way to replace compulsory settlement.

So, great, their "pegs" are holding to within 5% in dead markets...
In a market that's 80% Chinese traders and totally manipulated...
Wait till some real volatility comes along... a 20% swing in one of their "pegs".

Then we will see... the Bitshare markets will likely stop trading... and people will get screwed.

For example, short positions are "closed out" with a 5% penalty when margin runs out.
The above sentence assumes an orderly market and BIDS and OFFERS.

What if there are no bids/offers? What happens to shorts/longs that are >>> bankrupt?

They could have paid a consultant from the Chicago Board of Trade $10,000 to AUDIT BitShares...
You know, a market professional not some economics professor or C coder...
Then I could have had faith in their approach...
But these types of people always insist of reinventing the wheel in a vaccum.


Please do not take offense however I am still only seeing opinions here, is there something wrong with the market mechanics that will cause it to collapse where others will not?  Where did you get 80% Chinese traders and manipulation from?  My research into BTSX has shown me quite the opposite, however I am always open to hear what educated others have to say.

I have been watching this thread discussing their market mechanics and they appear quite solid to meet the goal of maintaining a peg.  https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?topic=9029.0  I may be giving the benefit of the doubt however they appear to be heading the the right direction to help the community.  To be honest watching their forum, I have not seen any other community work at the pace they have been along with accepting feedback from everyone.


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: EmperorZurg on September 28, 2014, 11:27:14 PM
I can see LTCD (LitecoinDark) being a very strong altcoin soon.


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: pizza77 on September 29, 2014, 12:05:31 AM
The list in the OP seems very limited.  I am surprised that burst and truthcoin didn't make it.

Qora should be there too.


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: identtitentti on September 29, 2014, 12:07:34 AM
The list in the OP seems very limited.  I am surprised that burst and truthcoin didn't make it.

The list of the coins doesn't need to be long. Here is only coins which are REALLY innovative and have NEW features unlike coins out of the list

nxt wins it hands down, just look at www.nxttechnologytree.com

Nem will soon be up their with nxt if not beyond it.

I don't consider NEM worth mention, but in terms of innovative, FIMK is basically on par (all NXT features can be directly incorporated into FIMK) and in other aspects way beyond NXT. That said, I'm aware that FIMK so far stays under the radar/uninteresting to many or most in the altcoin community :).


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: juicyjuice87 on September 29, 2014, 05:29:39 AM
FIMK is great.  I love FIMK


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: dwma on September 29, 2014, 11:50:22 AM
FIMK is great.  I love FIMK

What does FIMK do ?



Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: /dev/null on September 29, 2014, 12:30:29 PM
Who the fuck cares what is the most innovative cryptocurrency if Bitcoin is not going anywhere. It's all just a shop talk. Bitcoin was, is and will be the highest valued cryptocurrency until smth new is built on top of it. 


Title: Re: What is the Most Innovative Cryptocurrency/Technology?
Post by: devphp on September 29, 2014, 01:11:55 PM
Who the fuck cares what is the most innovative cryptocurrency if Bitcoin is not going anywhere. It's all just a shop talk. Bitcoin was, is and will be the highest valued cryptocurrency until smth new is built on top of it. 

Other technologies don't need to care what Bitcoin does or does not.