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The Bitcoin Limbo Game

Here is how it works:

1) Find the oldest Bitcoin address you still control (have the private key for) that you do not mind making public.  For example:

     13fG1Shr3gaDqGSXpgmqjhYUCXwFSShoKd

2) Enter this oldest address into the form at http://www.minaddress.info

3) You will get a MinAddress for your address.  For my example it is:  4d8fd-13f

     NOTES:  You must have a valid MinAddress to win.
                  The address must have a balance equal to or greater than 0.1 BTC to win.
                  You must prove you control the address to win.  
                  If your address does not work at the web site then please report it here or to the owner.
                  The MinAddress thread is here:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=774741.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=774741.0)
                  This is part of the beta testing of the site so...

4) The first portion of a MinAddress is the block number of the address.

5) If the block address portion of your oldest address is lower than the lowest address posted so far in this thread then post it in this thread.

I will give a 0.1 BTC prize to the oldest/lowest address posted in the next couple of weeks or so.  

I reserve the right to post my own oldest address if I wish (a hidden reserve of sorts).

You must follow the posting format shown in this next post (you can put anything you want into the message you sign) in order to prove you own the address and are not just blowing smoke.

EDIT:  Even after all these years I still learn new ways to get scammed.  Amazing.

In order to win:

   the Bitcoin address must have a balance equal to or greater than 0.1 BTC
   you must prove you control the address by signing a message with the private key
   you must have the lowest MinAddress
   your post must follow the format used in the following post:

4d8fd-13f

13fG1Shr3gaDqGSXpgmqjhYUCXwFSShoKd

G9UBD3QsPBgdXUsdhXNpBU+hQxO2n6NnEdzd0TevxZWf7RBlI1Eu6sEfgqrftzCOWIM3R1TdJF63zlP+aZFl390=

Balance 0.1001 BTC (which in my case will be used to pay the winner):

https://blockchain.info/address/13fG1Shr3gaDqGSXpgmqjhYUCXwFSShoKd

You can submit as many as you want to as long as it has a lower MinAddress than the previous post, you have the private key, and the address has a balance equal to or greater than 0.1 BTC.

4c6ed-19b (4c6ed < 4d8fd)

19bgmFmEhpgNi8nbqnJ2pnQHXz9mpKxDkA

ID5FXaRHKzFiKOL9KLLXmyPb5VleCD7X9PjhwLkAPaaXqn9OYx2NcCl/Gxi8owbl3XLUqGTUzBrgEYvQkg/LaBg=

Balance at the time this post is created: 0.00991042 BTC

https://blockchain.info/address/19bgmFmEhpgNi8nbqnJ2pnQHXz9mpKxDkA

470f4 is now the number to beat!

This is fun, and great practice. I'm too young to stand a chance. If anything could lure satoshi back in, though...

Yes.  I am sure Satoshi is all over my 0.1 BTC reward.   :D

Give it a try! 470f4 is the current number to beat and that is not that long ago.  Dig up your oldest key pair and give it a whirl!

How do you beat that number/letter combination. I dont get it.

Take your oldest bitcoin address that you still have the private key for (in other words, not one from a wallet that you've lost or deleted).

Enter the bitcoin address in the MinAddress website that is linked in the OP.

See if the MinAddress results in a number/letter combination before the dash that is less than 470f4.

Letters are "greater than" numbers, so 47036 would be "less than" 470f4 (36 is "less than f4" in the same way that 36 is "less than" 94)

The order of values of "digits" from largest to smallest would be f, e, d, c, b, a, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, 0

Ok so I clicked submit and got 42a1d-12hy

Now what?

42a1d is less than 470f4 so you are on you way.  Now you have to prove to me you own that private key.

Do you know how to sign a message with your private key?

If not, what wallet are you using?  I can tell you how to do it on the blockchain.info wallet or the Bitcoin-qt (core) wallet.

30f5c-1kg

1KGBMAWskevoU7u3qP5fcw4zojbx7AbL1W

IH1EqnqWP06Ss33tyugMPQf95wkH+NadjI/uLBZuNPKdJFKrtfstWkjB397YndoxC1wVWK4lhkA43j19Y4yA+ZQ=
The message is: This address belongs to 'iamnotcool' and I'm participating in BurtW's Bitcoin Limbo thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=779081.0
Tell me if I did anything wrong :)

my btc addy: 19jD5PfF5TqeF5xJWa5US2rM7GHVr5hdX
Min-Address: 47e7d-19jd

message:

signature:

Is the current MinAddress to beat.  Private key and BTC amount verified.

Good try but your block number (47e7d) is greater than iamnotcool`s (30f5c) and michietn94's (470f4).

That is up to you.  The number to beat right now is 30f5c so 2f4f3 would put you in the lead.

Good try but your MinAddress block number (42a1d) would need to be under 30f5c to be in the running.  If you can find an earlier address you can try that.

I think this game is about who hold the oldest BTC address..

Who had it will win this giveway, am i right ?

Yes, basically the person who wins this game will be a person who still controls an old (very old?) address (still has the private key), still had BTC at that address (or puts some new BTC there), and is willing to publicly declare and prove their ownership of that address.

Wow that hard to beat since you have BTC already since 2011  :P

Meanwhile i start know bitcoin since 2014,
so there's no chance for me to win this

Probably not.

30f5c-1kg is the MinAddress to beat.  Anyone?

In case Pat doesn't play...

21412-1ez4

1Ez4a2mxKi97eXdnTV1Y4fb8NBZ6BDutGd

G04bp9iX+HBEL5dP006lxSuONRBsZ4pnjJDknfddugRe4O/rIrPKrBene9dtrGtcjTQWYSiEQvwHvmNO/GlK8dc=

https://blockchain.info/address/1Ez4a2mxKi97eXdnTV1Y4fb8NBZ6BDutGd

Verified.  21412-1ez4 is the MinAddress to beat.

Move over everyone :)

1a1d9-1dz
1CiunxVSGagXxowVVkrbcHrUTXx9tohCAG


GznG1tqEr2/TeGkJCAm05+YKklRyAe+GEC9BQF2NBLt/ra4B6BbtWKEDdD/CtpcHR+Nrnz50907DG8oP/VHg/Fw=

EDIT: I can throw some coins in it if need be.
EDIT 2: Added coins to get above dust (hopefully)?

Hi,
The minaddress in your post is not of the address you have put. The second part of minaddress will always have starting characters of your address.
The correct minaddress for your address is 1a355-1ci, plz check.

Kluge is gonna win :P

Yes, I have verified that even though they made some sort of cut and paste mistake in their post, RB14060's MinAddress of  1a355-1ci is now the one to beat (signature verified and the address has funds).  

RB14060:  everything is correct in your post except the MinAddress of 1a1d9-1dz should be 1a355-1ci.   The Bitcoin address for the MinAddress 1a1d9-1dz is 1Dz9QVrUopFGcwPokuhXYYGu5XCkPtg4Er and that address is younger than the address 1CiunxVSGagXxowVVkrbcHrUTXx9tohCAG but only by two days.  Perhaps you own both?  At any rate you are now in the lead and you did send the BTC to an address you do control (whew!).

If you go to here (https://blockchain.info/address/1CiunxVSGagXxowVVkrbcHrUTXx9tohCAG) and look at the first transaction for this address (which happens to be from 1a1d9-1dz to 1a355-1ci (https://blockchain.info/tx/c55e0cc3e9f852b5e7cccb343a88e0a118c2d2ac96f6dbccaf7c20e4b9224651))  you will find they received 0.25 BTC on 2011-02-10 23:43:23 in block number 107349 (https://blockchain.info/block-height/107349).  It is interesting to note that the difficulty for that block was only 25,997.88 (difficulty today is 27,428,630,902.26)

Not unless he can find an address to beat 1a355-1ci

Getting a error when I try inputting my address 15eiAnGmwGVKSGjSKowcDw7N6CmhG7jfoo.
Not going to be older than the best record so far, but I was curious what's wrong. My other addresses work fine.

Hi,
Minaddres.info takes the data from http://blockexplorer.com/ and blockexplorer is giving the below error [ http://blockexplorer.com/address/15eiAnGmwGVKSGjSKowcDw7N6CmhG7jfoo ] for this address because of which it is not working.




Anyways the minaddress for 15eiAnGmwGVKSGjSKowcDw7N6CmhG7jfoo is 24aa0-15e [calculated manually] and you can use Minaddress.info to get full address for it.

Huh, not quite sure how that happened! Must've been a change address or something, cause I don't see it in my client nor does it show up in an address sweep. Oh well!

You must have used the private key of 1a355-1ci = 1CiunxVSGagXxowVVkrbcHrUTXx9tohCAG to sign the message in your post otherwise I would not have been able to verify the signed message with the public key for 1a355-1ci = 1CiunxVSGagXxowVVkrbcHrUTXx9tohCAG.  Therefore you must own the private key for 1a355-1ci.

1a355-1ci is the number to beat.  Anyone?

Rule clarification:

Starting with the next posted entry, any address submitted must contain 0.1 BTC or more.

The history of the contest so far:


1a355-1ci is the MinAddress to beat.

18e98-1c

1CownnB6EmjmbwSbnFZkYGJKVSMFGUeR5o

G7TEqjdKJ0UsnPleO45y/9hkr1LDypvo4ap0uDRyhFsWjkliDdy4MPan2xxoc+/K4JxBYFxADveJDI1JcJ255dI=

Balance 0.1 BTC:

https://blockchain.info/address/1CownnB6EmjmbwSbnFZkYGJKVSMFGUeR5o

I also have 18f5d-1ps.

The 18e98-1c address was the first address I used, and it can be seen receiving 0.05 BTC from Gavin's faucet. :)

You guys using walkers (aka zimmers) yet?
Shall we find you a nice, quiet home?

Because we were online 3 years ago?

Not when you put it like that.
I'm just jealous.
It does seem long ago in btc terms.

Verified.  18e98-1c is the MinAddress to beat.

Getting interesting now, I can no longer win my own game.

Yep, the blocks are far enough back now that I know for a fact that I won't have anything older in any of my cold storage paper wallets.

Saves me the time of going to look.  Good luck to dooglus!

The "View profile" link next to each of my posts links to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3420

That 3420 is my userid here. I made my forum account around the same time as my first Bitcoin transaction. If you find someone with a lower userid, maybe they have an older address and could win this thing.

Min-Address: 4dd40-1nvs

Nice try but your block number (4dd40) is much greater than the lowest block number posted so far.

18e98 is the number to beat, yours must be lower than that in order to win.

Daily bump.  

dooglus's 18e98-1c is the MinAddress to beat.

To answer a question I got by PM:  I will probably close out this contest at the end of this month unless there is a lot of activity but I expect activity will die off pretty rapidly as we go farther back into the blockchain.

Any "older timers" want to claim your 0.1 BTC?

I'm unclear about the required 0.1 BTC balance on the address. Does it need to stay on the address, or just be there when you check the address?

I don't really understand why you ask for it to have a non-dust balance at all, since you also require proof of ownership anyway.

Because people (one specifically) cheated by claiming an old address where someone had posted the private key online after using it.  They claimed the address as their own and proved it (they did have the private key).  However they would not be foolish enough to send BTC to an address where it would probably be swept within seconds.  The reason the address must have and maintain 0.1 BTC until I pay them is that someone could go ahead and send a small amount to an old publicly available private key, it gets swept, but they still make a profit on the scam.  So, the rule was changed.  The winning address must have 0.1 (or more) BTC.

I have also now decided on how to end this thing:  X consecutive days with no change in the winning address.  I am open to suggestions on what X should be.

when is this contenst going to end?

EDIT:
sry, TL;DR

5 days?

I've been PMing and spreading this topic URL around, a few people here got it from me.  ;)

Hey SmokeTooMuch,

Do you remember when you sent me 2x 0.01 BTC to test IP sending ?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=34.msg236#msg236

Was this the first public Bitcoin transaction to an IP address ?

Wonder if either of us still has that wallet ?

I'm pretty sure I still have it.
I guess I'm going to check my old wallets for this game (not really for the reward, just for curiosity) and while I'm at it I will look for the aforementioned IP-based transactions.

EDIT #1:
yep, thanks for that :)

EDIT #2:

I just checked all topics with an ID <34 and none of them contains such information. So it appears that, in fact, this was the first public transfer-by-IP-address transaction, at least on this forum. I haven't checked the old mailing list or forum on sourceforge, so I can't guarantee for it, though.

Indeed. I can't find a public example of a transaction to an IP address prior to this one. I'm told that the Bitcoin sourceforge mailing lists (including the private bitcoin-security list) does not appear to have an example of an IP transaction before this one either.

I'm assuming that the 'Satoshi to Hal' transaction was sent to a Bitcoin address and that all other IP transactions were to private ranges. The posts show that others were aware of how IP sending worked in practice, the question being - did anyone else actually test it ? Base networking protocols are often assumed to be working correctly when the layers above them are functioning.

It will be easy enough to find the transactions on the blockchain i.e. 2 x 0.01 BTC transactions on the same date / time as your post.

Daily bump.  

dooglus's 18e98-1c is still the MinAddress to beat.  SmokeTooMuch and BitcoinFX talked about entering lower MinAddresses but have not gotten around to it yet.

I have decided that I will send the reward to dooglus unless someone comes up with a lower address in the next 5 days.

Any "older timers" want to claim your 0.1 BTC?

Bitcoin Full Address: 1KZUTAHU8JQJvZG1uynrgNiQT7DWN9zq1Y
             Min-Address: 45a62-1kzu
             Verify Link: http://blockexplorer.com/block/00000000000000004e6e59adff610f84f3c0f2e81b3227f9bdd16846449ebc14

The current oldest Min-Address is 18e98-1c, which is much older than 45a62-1kzu. Besides, you didn't follow the format.

What exactly is min-address? how do i know what is my min address?

Your answer can be found here: http://www.minaddress.info/#faq
As for how to find out what your min-address is, just enter your normal BTC address in the field at the top and the website will do the rest for you. Basically the first part is the first block that your address appeared in and the second part is the first few characters of your normal BTC address.

1-1   ;D

12c6DSiU4Rq3P4ZxziKxzrL5LmMBrzjrJX

HBAH26LM8Bcj8HM2p4Hr8VFjkLDOFVYHr/J+0HNJQOB4511gCQ2FPdK7YShH4bhMlf5Y1Vipa+7ujAuTIMBmFmU=

Balance 50+ BTC

https://blockchain.info/address/12c6DSiU4Rq3P4ZxziKxzrL5LmMBrzjrJX

Lost access to wallet bcoz i sold my computer after formatting it  ;D

read the OP again, very carefully.

https://i.imgur.com/ACnFYZi.png

What the hell? You gave me negative trust for posting that? You took that seriously!  :o

That is the first address which appeared in Block 1. And all it need is a little common sense that the only person who will knoe of bitcoin's existance at that time is Satoshi Nakamoto and may be some rich guys.

And do you know what a grin means?

Also the verification failed. then how did i present false credentials? Anyone could know that the address is not even related to that string.
And there was no intention to cheat.

See: https://blockchain.info/tx/0e3e2357e806b6cdb1f70b54c3a3a17b6714ee1f0e68bebb44a74b1efd512098

if u see the address in blockchain, u can see that it was recently active. So my claim of lost wallet is obviously false. I was only joking!

Just adding smilies does not make it a joke. Just because your attempt to cheat was amateurish does not negate the fact that you tried. Maybe your intent was different, but you might should have made that clearer. I certainly did not laugh and yes I tested your signature even though I was almost certain you are not satoshi.

Sure. I will keep that in mind.  :D

Thank you for removing that -6 negative trust.  :D

Dont thank me, the rating wasnt by me, but by DannyHamilton [1]


[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=60820

All joking (I thought it was funny and obviously not an attempt to cheat, at least they followed the correct posting format) and annoying people who just (incorrectly) post without bothering to read the OP and the thread aside:

dooglus's 18e98-1c is still the MinAddress to beat.

I have decided that I will send the reward to dooglus unless someone comes up with a real lower address in the next 4 days.

Any "older timers" want to claim your 0.1 BTC?

dooglus's 18e98-1c is still the MinAddress to beat.

I will send the reward to dooglus unless someone comes up with a real lower address in the next 3 days.

Any "older timers" want to claim your 0.1 BTC?

Only TWO day left to post a lower MinAddress!

how to play this game

4c30c-1lhc7

MinAddress is  42f32-1kezf

My guess is they are both victims of a public school education and just don't know that the number 4xxxx is greater than the number 1xxxx.  They might also not be familiar with the concept "less than" ;)

i hope Satoshi Nakamoto will reveal himself in 2 days.  ;)

I guess they don't recognise that character strings containing letters can be numbers, and so don't think to compare them numerically.

yeah. i had the same trouble. but figured it out after seeing first few submissions



Am i allowed to buy bitcoin address of someone else without getting a negative trust?

I don't see a problem with that.

Anybody that owns a Casascius coin has done exactly that.

Do you trust the seller not to steal the bitcoins that you add to the address?

BurtW, can you give us an exact deadline (date/time in UTC)? I'll probably have an older address in a couple days. (Sorry dooglus!)

I am a bit flexible on that.  This is all for fun and it is only $60 $55 $50 $45 $40 bucks anyway.  Tell them to get their act together and get in here before it is too late.

If no one posts a lower MinAddress by Monday some time I will award the $40 $35 $30 to dooglus.

Dang the way things are going I might have to increase the reward!

LOL.  I was just thinking the same thing.



I suppose that Keefe might know a very early adopter that simply isn't available at the moment to sign in to the forum and provide a MinAddress.

However, I was assuming that this is more along the lines of what ndnhc was asking about.  I figured that Keefe recently purchased a Casascius coin and is waiting on delivery, so he can't post the MinAddress until the coin arrives and he cracks it open.

When did Casascius begin manufacturing his coins?  I know it was before I discovered bitcoin, but was it before dooglus's address showed up in a block?

I bought some of the earliest coins.  Here is one I opened in order to make sure it worked before I bought a whole bunch of them so I think it is my oldest physical coin:

233b5-114c

I don't think dooglus has to worry about physical Bitcoins.

Done right?

I'll just post it on his behalf...

11cea-1h

1HgwzAJdu8r5h1pviriV7KGnqc6fUHNqiq

HESUI6voO5mpQPRPYbZinqi/+Xl3nnszgVFxeItBZrdyvqkPWpIvqUg9x3HMD3hyBuVd1S1jA+tazkuDOI88zJU=

Balance 0.1 BTC:

https://blockchain.info/address/1HgwzAJdu8r5h1pviriV7KGnqc6fUHNqiq

Its done I think. But wow, an old address there!

I think BurtW will post when it's done. He said sometime Monday.

Message and amount verified.

2010-08-08 03:58:48 is the date/time to beat.

About 5 days from now I will close out this contest unless we get a lower MinAddress.

Daily bump, 4 days left in the contest.

Full address is 1KcBzReYZvbeGgiaMip92MMFtTFgDqB3Vm

1kcb:465eb

Did you even bother to read the rules of the game?  Do you often just play games without even bothering to read and understand the rules?  If so, I have a great new gambling game for you:  send me 1 BTC and I will explain the rules of the game to you once I get the money.  Is that something you would be likely to do?

This thread has been quite useful for discovering individuals that I should mark as "ignore".  Thanks.

who the winner 0.1?

the winner will be announce at 29 Sept
But if someone has an older bitcoin address, the new one will replace the current one

Does anyone out there have an address older than:

11cea-1h

which was created 2010-08-08 03:58:48?

If we don't get an older one in a few days then I will send the reward to the owner of 11cea-1h.

11cea-1h is still the MinAddress to beat.  Your MinAddress must be lower than 11cea-1h where 11cea is a hexidecimal number.

A few more days and the contest will end.

It is now about 12:30 PM GMT, Monday, September 29.  This contest will end at 12 AM GMT, Wednesday, October 1.  Entries received after that time will not be valid.  I will pay out when I get a chance some time on October 1.

This contest will end at 12 AM GMT, Wednesday, October 1.  Entries received after that time will not be valid.  I will pay out when I get a chance some time on October 1.

Last chance to prove you have a lower MinAddress and collect the prize.

Game over.  We have a winner!  Congratulations to 11cea-1h

Reward sent:

https://blockchain.info/tx/5a8f9e6513631c21201d6d85d0f69707612f4297c4a46a94535ae006bc3224da

https://blockchain.info/address/1HgwzAJdu8r5h1pviriV7KGnqc6fUHNqiq

Thanks everyone for playing.

congrats for the winner

Confirmed. Thanks BurtW!