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The Brits are nice people, they will allow to go free if that's what they want, and this would a fantastic example for all the peoples who are not free all over the planet.

We need an independent Catalonia. Hong Kong, Tibet and East Turkestan should leave China. The Tatars and the Kurds deserve to get their own country. The Ingush people should also be free and if California wants to start its own republic, let it be!

You don't live in England do you? :P There's a reason I want to leave this shitty country.

You forgot to include an argument as to why scotland should be independent to the rest of the UK.

I personally disagree with your proposal because the UK economy is very large (and stable) allowing for the people of Scotland to enjoy a stable economy that would likely be somewhat less stable as an independent state. I would make the same argument with their currency. Also a less stable economy generally will mean overall higher tax levels to make up for lower tax revenues at times of poor economic growth

Rubbish, you can have an independent country and have your own currency, it's just that the central banks do absolutely everything to stamp out that sort of thinking because that would directly interfere with their control over people.

This is technically true, however there are less economic opportunities with a smaller economy. Also the central banks are merely executing the laws as written by various governments, and carrying out their requests.

We have these things called trade treaties and diplomats for a reason, there are small countries out there who do just fine, since Scotland isn't a landlocked nation then it shouldn't have many problems trading with countries who don't immediately try to boycott them for becoming independent, also if you think the central banks are under the control of governments, you need to look at history.

It's amazing how much people have been taken in by imperialist propaganda that they genuinely seem to think that independent countries can't exist on their own without help.

Would the UK even be able to continue on without Scotland? At least London isn't trying simultaneous secession.... maybe ought to. I just like watching the chaos, though. :D

Yeah for me the chaos is hilarious but there is a serious point to be made, I'd really like to see more independent countries ignoring the warmongering scumbags out there and trade with each other freely. By the way, you should see the kind of things even the BBC are trying to pull against the Scottish, it's absolutely hilarious to watch because it's obvious how desperate they are to get everyone to vote no and they're being so unpleasant that it's going to make people to vote yes just to spite them.

http://takimag.com/article/scottish_independence_is_crap_gavin_mcinnes
Thoughts? Goes over my head.

Okay, I've deciphered the Scottish accented ranting for you and I think basically what's happening is this guys lamenting over what Scotland was and thinks that the Scottish are just doing the independence thing for a show rather than actually going for it for real, which lets be honest, is kind of true, I'd personally like to see it happen for real though.

I believe that Scotland only makes up a small portion of the UK population and a similar portion of the UK economy. Sure they have oil reserves (however they could possibly be still controlled by the UK in the event of succession).

I'm pro independent Scotland.  Time to shake things up and if people want to live independently then that should happen.  It is likely in their best interest to depart from the UK and I support move and wish them well.  Not sure why it would be a major debate if the majority of Scots don't think it is in their best interest.

It's because the British are obsessed with clinging onto their dying empire and politicians particularly in the UK have this extreme arrogance that they know what's best and refuse to even let people have their own opinions on something, you see it in everything they do here. When it comes to the EU referendum as well we're getting the same attitude, Labour in particular are trying to block the vote altogether because they know we'd vote the way they didn't want.

One thing I've learned is that there are people out there who truly hate referendums and other voting systems like it because it genuinely reflects what the people think.

The british empire has been dead for hundreds of years. They have voluntarily given up control of many countries over the past 75ish years

hahahah :P voluntarily :P Just like how they gave up India and America? :D

I do not think that it will allow, West supports the secession of other countries, it will be returned to them like a boomerang effect

The world do not need an independent Scotland, the Scots need an independent Scotland. They have never considered themselves British anyway, they are proud of being a Scot. The problem is, the Scot want their independence but want to continue using the British Pound.

How pissed would the Irish be if the Scots were just allowed to vote to secede?

Correct, I do not live in the UK but I still enjoy it. I'm going there at least once a year, and I think it's far from being a "shitty country". The problem in my eyes, is over development. It's getting too complicated and too expensive to do anything in London. I couldn't afford to live in London. If a smaller UK could bring down property prices in London, I'd be happy with that (I wouldn't move there, though).

Back to my point, I see the independence of Scotland as a starting point. Much like the break-up of the soviet union, I'm now waiting for Russia's break-up. Belgium should be split in 2, too. People shall understand that countries are inventions, and that in most cases people would be better without one, or in the smallest country possible, than in a big one which only cares about its own interest and survival, rather than in the well beings of individuals.

Yeah, I said England, not London, London is basically it's own little bubble and even the people who live their act like it without realising it, one person I visited in London went "Oh it can't be that bad" when I explained how there was basically nothing where I live and I went "Have you been there?" how do you think they answered? No of course! lol :P

In less than 48 hours time, everything will be clear. If Scotland secedes, then that will be the end of the United Kingdom. Other constituent federal subjects, such as Ulster, Wales and the Isle of Man will also secede. Most probably Ulster will reunite with the Republic of Ireland as well. Margaret Thatcher will be turning in her grave right now....  ;D

It is true that a lot of Scots support the Labor party. But according to the last elections, the SNP received some 45% of the votes there. SNP is not as left-wing as the Labor Party, at least in policies such as immigration. There is a strong nationalist faction within the SNP, which will neutralize any ultra-left sector within that party.

Great point and something tells me they would be pretty pissed indeed.  I don't think this is going to happen but It is always good to see the people having the discussion and getting views of others.  I'm not familiar with the economy of Scotland and how they would fare being independent.  But if the people decide they want to be independent, who am I or anyone else to say they can't be?  That is just what my instincts tell me is right. 

Well, what is going on with England and Scotland is being done legally.  Both parties are, apparently, willing to recognize the voting outcome.

I don't think Scotland succeeding will cause the other parts of the UK to succeed. The UK has been around for a very long time and does provide some level of stability and protection to each of it's "provinces"

If Scotland secedes and the economy there improves as a result of it, then there is a valid reason for the other provinces to secede as well. Even now many of the provinces (Northern Ireland, Wales.etc) are complaining that they receive little or no attention from the rulers in London. Wales might stay with the UK, as the separatist movement is weak, but in Northern Ireland, it is very vocal.

A lot of people are voting Yes because of the apparent disparity between
 the will of the people and the resultant government.
 Its not a matter of not feeling British

Why does the world needs an independent Scotland that bad?
One reason....
Also , Scotland can get 100 times independent Tibet will never see the chance.

I know that. The situation in Tibet is terrible. Still, it would be great news to all Tibetans to hear about an independent Scotland. It should show them that nothing is set in stone, and they all remember that Tibet was a free country half a century ago. China is going well, with strong economic growth, but things could change fast if this doesn't last.

We just need to look at the Middle East or the area which was known as Libya to see that worsening living conditions are leading to dramatic political changes.

First thing first:
Scots were allowed to have the referendum.
Any tibetan demanding this will be shot.

So , the example is useless.

Most states wanting independence I don't understand. The Scots should be independent, they are losing money on the British politics.

At its basic form, the money comes from the people. The Scottish people have the right to use English common law. They have the right to go to Queen's Bench where they can virtually eliminate all direct taxes for themselves. But they don't know how. Get into the below links to find out how some people in England are learning how, and using it. The Scots can do the same.

http://www.unkommonlaw.co.uk/

http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=127469&cmd=tc

:)

There is no guarantee that the money will go back to the Scots once they become independent. Right now the British companies are operating almost all the North Sea oil fields. And the maritime border between England and Scotland is not well defined. Do you think that UK will give up all those oil fields to the Scots without a fight?

It's only one example, I gave other examples. In Senegal too, the part of the country South of Gambia is looking for independence. Several countries will come out of what was Somalia, and Indonesia could break, too. There are plenty of examples.

I believe so yeah.

Many talk about the oil, but it's only a small part of the overall equation. Part of British debt will have to be allocated to Scotland, and most businesses have customers in England and in Scotland, it will a huge task to sort out all the financial details, but I believe it's worth it.

The whole world is watching, and hundreds of millions are hoping for an independent Scotland.

I think the oil reserves would have tipped the scale significantly in Scotland's favor. Scotland would almost certainly be able to net export oil from the oil reserves located off of their coast. As a result any debt assumed from the UK would have a lower then otherwise burden on taxpayers because of the oil reserves.

Almost 45% of the Scottish voters have held their ground, kept their wits and did not collapse under the immense pressure of 'Project Fear' and the one-sided media