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Title: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Andrew Bitcoiner on April 28, 2012, 06:02:14 PM
Everyone,

I am happy to announce the launch of http://www.bitcoinadvertisers.com/ the easiest and best way to ADVERTISE YOUR WEBSITE for bitcoins and EARN BITCOINS for hosting ads on your site.

* Our ads are TEXT ONLY, the industry leading trend and user preferred way of viewing ads online.

* YOU get paid every .25btc worth of clicks on your website (anti-click fraud measures are in place, abuse the system get banned, very simple).

* We charge a 1% fee per for this service, which is extremely low and comparable to other services out there.

* We are ACTIVELY developing new formats and features into the site, let me know by PM what you would like or through the contact form and we will do our best to meet your needs.

I am extremely excited about this site because as a long time bitcoin business owner, now I have the means to professionally and easily advertise my businesses in a professional and easy to use manner.  

This site is NEW so if you have any problems or questions, etc, please let me know and I will get back to you as soon as possible.

Thanks,
Andrew


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: acoindr on April 28, 2012, 06:25:35 PM
Looks good.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: payb.tc on April 28, 2012, 06:32:08 PM
hi andrew, i added this to my website but then quickly removed it as i thought it looked a bit messy:

http://i.imgur.com/JRIxv.png

if it appeared centered properly, and if 'BitcoinAdvertisers.com' wasn't sliced off at the bottom, that might help.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Andrew Bitcoiner on April 28, 2012, 06:33:45 PM
hi andrew, i added this to my website but then quickly removed it as i thought it looked a bit messy:

if it appeared centered properly, and if 'BitcoinAdvertisers.com' wasn't sliced off at the bottom, that might help.


I will look into this.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: payb.tc on April 28, 2012, 06:39:05 PM
hi andrew, i added this to my website but then quickly removed it as i thought it looked a bit messy:

if it appeared centered properly, and if 'BitcoinAdvertisers.com' wasn't sliced off at the bottom, that might help.


I will look into this.

i tried again, this time modifying the generated code to have border:1px solid #cccccc instead so at least it now appears to be centered: http://payb.tc

your domain is still cut off though (in chrome)

thanks!


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: terrytibbs on April 28, 2012, 06:47:32 PM
How many threads on this are you planning on creating?


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: teflone on April 28, 2012, 06:48:09 PM
Decent enough look to your page..

Thumbs up..

:)


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: payb.tc on April 28, 2012, 06:53:03 PM
also andrew, on your preview page, it would be good if you displayed the ad how it will actually appear...

as it is currently it's not as helpful, imho.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: sexybitcoinads on April 28, 2012, 07:14:28 PM
also andrew, on your preview page, it would be good if you displayed the ad how it will actually appear...

as it is currently it's not as helpful, imho.


I agree, that is the next step is to add a preview page to confirm or re-edit the ad.  Hope to have done within week.

Also I may ban adult themed ads until we can add a adult content filter, if anyone else wants me to do this let me know.  I have already received one request for this.

Send that person over to us  ;D  We will be doing adult theme advertising  so send them over to: http://www.sexybitcoinads.com  -  opening Monday.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: sexybitcoinads on April 28, 2012, 07:21:16 PM
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Sorry I meant to mean they wanted it to be PG only, good luck on your site!

Got it! lol and thanks I really like what you've done good job!  ;D

edit: SexybitcoinAds reddit (http://www.reddit.com/r/sexybitcoinads/) <-- subscribe to see the sexiest girls posing with the sexiest bitcoin company's!  ;D

 Sexybitcoinads.com (http://www.sexybitcoinads.com) <--- Learn where to advertise it is FREE to advertise on Sexybitcoinads.com


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: rjk on April 28, 2012, 07:31:55 PM
Within the ad, the link to bitcoinadvertisers.com needs to break out of the frame, not stay inside it.



Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Coinabul on April 28, 2012, 07:34:00 PM
I'm such a fan. You have no idea.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: sexybitcoinads on April 28, 2012, 07:39:09 PM
I'm such a fan. You have no idea.

Sending you a PM ;)


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: MaxSan on April 28, 2012, 11:02:23 PM
This is ace. If you can make the adds highly customisable your most certainly onto a winner.

I guess configuration and options will come in time. Im most certainly on board.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Daily Anarchist on April 28, 2012, 11:08:13 PM
Just want to make sure, you will be setting this up for image ads in the future?


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Coinabul on April 28, 2012, 11:15:10 PM
Just want to make sure, you will be setting this up for image ads in the future?

Yes, I am thinking along the lines of making a separate queue for image based ads in the future so that publishers that prefer text only ads can keep it that way.  I don't have a specific time frame for that in mind, if more people demand that feature I will add it sooner.
I'd appreciate it greatly.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Daily Anarchist on April 29, 2012, 02:29:29 AM
I'm curious what the algorithm is for which ads get put up and when. If I had to take a guess it looks something like this:

CTR x bidA = a

CTR x bidB = b

CTR x bidC = c

and so on. The largest wins.

So, let's say company A has a CTR of 0.053 and a bid of 0.003 BTC per click. It would be

0.053 x 0.003 = 0.000159

Let's say company B has a CTR of 0.046 and a bid of 0.0035 BTC per click. It would be

0.046 x 0.0035 = 0.000161

Therefore, company B would have their ad placed instead of company A. Even though their CTR was lower it was more than made up for because they pay a higher amount per click. And company B's ads will keep getting impressions instead of company A until either the CTR of company B lowers, or the bid of company A increases. Am I correct or is there a different algorithm?


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Cyberdyne on April 29, 2012, 01:08:32 PM
Hi. Great service, although I had a problem when creating an ad.

I paid for 30 clicks but after a while the Payment Status just said Internal Server Error or some other server error, however refreshing the page gave me a whole new deposit address and presumably, a new order.

There's no page that I can see to go back and confirm that my first order went through okay.

If you can check, the ad was for http://BitcoinRPS.com and the transaction has many confirmations now.

Thank you.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: giantdragon on April 29, 2012, 01:36:03 PM
I have enabled your ads for Daily Bitcoins.

P.S. Could you provide some statistics to the affiliates? I would like to know at least how much Bitcoins are on the my balance.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: rjk on April 29, 2012, 04:38:51 PM
The "Ads by BitcoinAdvertisers.com" link still doesn't break out of the frame that it is in.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Matoking on April 29, 2012, 05:23:46 PM
Testing this out on BitCrate now. :)


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: terrytibbs on April 29, 2012, 08:43:16 PM
Really subtle, Andrew. Really subtle...
https://twitter.com/#!/BitcoinAds/status/196677273926119426 (https://twitter.com/#!/BitcoinAds/status/196677273926119426)


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: rjk on April 29, 2012, 10:13:54 PM
The "Ads by BitcoinAdvertisers.com" link still doesn't break out of the frame that it is in.

There is no intention of changing this at this time.
Oh, OK, I just thought you would possibly be wanting people to visit your site when they click the link. But if you wish to clear away the ad and leave a blank white space for them to stare at, that is fine with me too. Anytime I see one, I just click it and poof, no more ads. Quite considerate, actually.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: FreeMoney on April 30, 2012, 02:21:43 AM
Trying this. It gives a 'preview' but it is still in boxes. You ought show exactly how it will look.

Also just take 0 confirms, no one is going to screw you in this spot.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: payb.tc on April 30, 2012, 02:28:17 AM
It gives a 'preview' but it is still in boxes. You ought show exactly how it will look.

you just +1'd my post ;)


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: payb.tc on April 30, 2012, 04:04:12 AM
The "Ads by BitcoinAdvertisers.com" link still doesn't break out of the frame that it is in.

There is no intention of changing this at this time.
Oh, OK, I just thought you would possibly be wanting people to visit your site when they click the link. But if you wish to clear away the ad and leave a blank white space for them to stare at, that is fine with me too. Anytime I see one, I just click it and poof, no more ads. Quite considerate, actually.

andrew, rjk speaks the truth... you need to put something like target="_top" or target="_blank" in the href for BitcoinAdvertisers.com

otherwise, you're not going to grow your organic traffic.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: mc_lovin on May 01, 2012, 02:11:49 AM
placed an ad square on bitcointrading.com, very excited about this!

Tiny problem: I noticed that on some of the ads when you mouseover to them, the web address has double HTTP'ness. (http://http://)

http://i.imgur.com/fx1mP.png


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: cablepair on May 01, 2012, 03:38:08 AM
THIS IS COOL.

You can count on CoinConnect.org BTCWebHost.com & CoinRaffle.com to be solid participants of this on both ends.

Thanks! :)


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Matoking on May 01, 2012, 05:44:34 AM
This pretty much blows out any other Bitcoin advertising service out there at the moment in terms of payout. :)


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Matoking on May 01, 2012, 05:19:06 PM
Publisher-specific statistics (total earned, approximate earnings per day, previous payments, etc.)


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: ingrownpocket on May 01, 2012, 05:32:04 PM
Great site.

I was testing the code and sometimes when I click the ad it opens on the iframe instead of opening on a new page.
That only happened with your own ad (http://www.bitcoinadvertisers.com/).


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Tuxavant on May 02, 2012, 03:54:13 AM
A local bitcoiner here in vegas just told me tonight, as I bought some of his bitcoins, that he's going to be adding your ads to a few of his high traffic sites in the next week or two. He would do it sooner, but is swamped with stuff at the moment.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Tuxavant on May 02, 2012, 03:25:01 PM
Please tell me you registered your real last name as Bitcoiner. I just might have to join your family tree.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Tuxavant on May 02, 2012, 04:39:32 PM
I added two sites yesterday. I have a bunch of off-line domains not doing anything at the moment but will get them "doing something" and displaying ads in the next week or so.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: highlevelminer on May 03, 2012, 03:52:30 PM
207k hits those are serious claims...

And an increase in partnership. I assume by that you mean the backing of the investment populace.

I am sure you're company will have no problem finding fundage from a major source such as say glbse.com...


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: mc_lovin on May 03, 2012, 05:40:28 PM
I liked it when it displayed the "Currently you could earn 2.475 mBTC" when it was just normal BTC values.

edit: I think it would be cool if you could sort the 'Advertiser Statistics' page by bid :)


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Daily Anarchist on May 03, 2012, 06:21:37 PM
Can't wait until you get images going. Keep up the good work!


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: terrytibbs on May 03, 2012, 06:24:50 PM
You run an advertising service... and try to embed an entire website using the img tag?


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Daily Anarchist on May 03, 2012, 07:39:14 PM
Can you please separate adult content into at least two different categories? As a publisher I am perfectly happy to link to gambling sites, but I'm not interested in porn sites.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: FiZiX on May 03, 2012, 08:37:36 PM
Any plans to add mobile size ads?


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: FiZiX on May 03, 2012, 08:53:44 PM
Any plans to add mobile size ads?

Yes, do you have specific sizes in mind?

I think 300x50 is a pretty standard size.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: mc_lovin on May 03, 2012, 10:04:54 PM
I gotta say.. you guys have the best ad service out there.

Today I was tasked with an advertising campaign for WTCR.ca (http://wtcr.ca/) (buy computer components with bitcoin online!!!) and I was testing each service to see which service would bring me the most traffic.

I am using Operation Fabulous, FeedZeBirds, BitcoinAdvertisers, DailyBitcoins, and AnonymousAds.

Still waiting on my Op-Fab & DailyBitcoins deposits, FeedZeBirds is having problems, AnonymousAds worked great but traffic is pretty low, and with BitcoinAdvertisers I already have 2000 impressions!!

That ultra-fast deposit time is excellent, and the traffic you get!?!  BOOM, love the site.  Hopefully some customers will buy products from the store as well!

Have you considered making BitcoinAdvertisers on the GLBSE?  I'd buy stock.  Forgive me if this was previously mentioned.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: ingrownpocket on May 04, 2012, 07:36:04 AM
I am using Operation Fabulous, FeedZeBirds, BitcoinAdvertisers, DailyBitcoins, and AnonymousAds.

You're only missing CoinAd.com (http://www.coinad.com)  ;D


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: 2weiX on May 04, 2012, 03:53:42 PM
request: provide QR-code for payments.
request: provide way to alter ad if no clicks via login or something.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: mc_lovin on May 04, 2012, 04:47:16 PM
I am using Operation Fabulous, FeedZeBirds, BitcoinAdvertisers, DailyBitcoins, and AnonymousAds.

You're only missing CoinAd.com (http://www.coinad.com)  ;D
Got the ad running there too now :)


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: arsenische on May 04, 2012, 05:09:19 PM
AnonymousAds worked great but traffic is pretty low, and with BitcoinAdvertisers I already have 2000 impressions!!

How do you measure traffic? Anonymous Ads doesn't count impressions from the same IP more than 1 time during 24 hours (according to internal logs it gives about 10 times more impressions than it shows in stats).

Unlike other services, AA doesn't pay per click or per impression, thus publishers don't have incentive for generating fake clicks and impressions (they don't get paid for it).

What's your ad # at anonymous ads? :)


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: arsenische on May 04, 2012, 05:11:08 PM
I am using Operation Fabulous, FeedZeBirds, BitcoinAdvertisers, DailyBitcoins, and AnonymousAds.

You're only missing CoinAd.com (http://www.coinad.com)  ;D
Got the ad running there too now :)

You are also missing throughads.com -- looks very promising too.. though I  probably shouldn't advertise competitors ;)


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Dr. Bitcoin on May 04, 2012, 05:21:16 PM
Can you please separate adult content into at least two different categories? As a publisher I am perfectly happy to link to gambling sites, but I'm not interested in porn sites.
This change has now been made.  :D


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: mc_lovin on May 04, 2012, 05:24:01 PM
I am using Operation Fabulous, FeedZeBirds, BitcoinAdvertisers, DailyBitcoins, and AnonymousAds.

You're only missing CoinAd.com (http://www.coinad.com)  ;D
Got the ad running there too now :)

You are also missing throughads.com -- looks very promising too.. though I  probably shouldn't advertise competitors ;)

there are no advertisers or publishers on throughads, that is a poor business proposition.
I just noticed them too, checked 'em out, looks promising but I think it needs more publishers first before it can reel in the traffic :)


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: giantdragon on May 04, 2012, 06:31:58 PM
If I place multiple banners on the same page, will impressions be counted from all of them?


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: bbit on May 04, 2012, 06:47:57 PM
Andrea Bitcoiner sure is a charmer isn't he ? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=79578.msg882501#msg882501 ( scroll down welcome to friendlyness!)

You sure have a way with words!  win those customers over buddy!


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: ingrownpocket on May 04, 2012, 06:56:41 PM
Andrea Bitcoiner sure is a charmer isn't he ? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=79578.msg882501#msg882501 ( scroll down welcome to friendlyness!)

You sure have a way with words!  win those customers over buddy!

Maybe he's afraid he doesn't like some competition  ;D


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Dr. Bitcoin on May 04, 2012, 06:57:02 PM
http://img28.imageshack.us/img28/7199/advii.png

You can now customize ads!


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: bbit on May 04, 2012, 06:58:24 PM
Andrea Bitcoiner sure is a charmer isn't he ? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=79578.msg882501#msg882501 ( scroll down welcome to friendlyness!)

You sure have a way with words!  win those customers over buddy!

Maybe he's afraid he doesn't like some competition  ;D

lol probably... btw: how does your service work? I'm liking it haha... I don't see where to advertise ?


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: ingrownpocket on May 04, 2012, 07:00:09 PM
You can now customize ads!

Something like this could be very helpfull:
http://www.eyecon.ro/colorpicker/ (http://www.eyecon.ro/colorpicker/)

lol probably... btw: how does your service work? I'm liking it haha... I don't see where to advertise ?

Just create account here: https://coinad.com/index.php?m=1 (https://coinad.com/index.php?m=1)


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: rjk on May 04, 2012, 07:00:37 PM
AnonymousAds worked great but traffic is pretty low, and with BitcoinAdvertisers I already have 2000 impressions!!

How do you measure traffic? Anonymous Ads doesn't count impressions from the same IP more than 1 time during 24 hours (according to internal logs it gives about 10 times more impressions than it shows in stats).

Unlike other services, AA doesn't pay per click or per impression, thus publishers don't have incentive for generating fake clicks and impressions (they don't get paid for it).

What's your ad # at anonymous ads? :)
I'd like to know this too. How can we be sure that you aren't gaming your own system to inflate its perceived popularity?


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Dr. Bitcoin on May 04, 2012, 07:00:47 PM
We are adding more features all the time. If you need something, just say!


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: bbit on May 04, 2012, 07:01:07 PM
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Maybe he's afraid he doesn't like some competition  ;D
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I want what's best for my customers and I'm willing to fight for it   8)

Don't be a douchebag about it and everything should work out in the end...there is no reason to attack other services ..


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: bbit on May 04, 2012, 07:02:57 PM
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It's works in a series of tubes... and what is up with with bitcoinstarter.com?

I don't know - they are having some work done it why do you ask ? You going to attack that site also ?


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: bbit on May 04, 2012, 07:08:50 PM
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Maybe he's afraid he doesn't like some competition  ;D
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I want what's best for my customers and I'm willing to fight for it   8)
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Don't be a douchebag about it and everything should work out in the end...there is no reason to attack other services ..

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commenting on the obvious is not mean, you announced a site to be launched on monday and it never arrived, you have links to other services in your signature that don't have any content, what is going on?

I never announced anything? what are you talking about ? Also, why are the links in your sig. going to adfly and shady stuff like that what is going on?


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Andrew Bitcoiner on May 04, 2012, 07:11:19 PM
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Maybe he's afraid he doesn't like some competition  ;D
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I want what's best for my customers and I'm willing to fight for it   8)
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Don't be a douchebag about it and everything should work out in the end...there is no reason to attack other services ..

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commenting on the obvious is not mean, you announced a site to be launched on monday and it never arrived, you have links to other services in your signature that don't have any content, what is going on?

I never announced anything? what are you talking about ? Also, why are the links in your sig. going to adfly and shady stuff like that what is going on?

Whoever it was.  If you want to know click and find out.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com Possibly earn 0.03/btc for visitor!
Post by: Andrew Bitcoiner on May 04, 2012, 07:33:49 PM
Partners can now earn 0.03/btc for visitor!


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: payb.tc on May 04, 2012, 07:42:49 PM
i have to say i agree with other negative sentiments expressed...

so i've decided to remove the script from payb.tc until andrew bitcoiner turns his aggressive marketing personality down a couple of notches.

(thanks for the bit cents paid so far)



Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Andrew Bitcoiner on May 04, 2012, 07:44:12 PM
i have to say i agree with other negative sentiments expressed...

so i've decided to remove the script from payb.tc until andrew bitcoiner turns his aggressive marketing personality down a couple of notches.

(thanks for the bit cents paid so far)



You're welcome, best of luck!


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Daily Anarchist on May 04, 2012, 07:50:10 PM
Can you please separate adult content into at least two different categories? As a publisher I am perfectly happy to link to gambling sites, but I'm not interested in porn sites.
This change has now been made.  :D

Thank you very much!


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: mcorlett on May 04, 2012, 07:53:07 PM
For what it's worth, I'll also be watching from the sidelines for now.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: payb.tc on May 04, 2012, 07:54:33 PM
For what it's worth, I'll also be watching from the sidelines for now.

more fun times with andrew: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=79578.msg882782#msg882782



Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: bbit on May 04, 2012, 07:58:24 PM

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Whoever it was.  If you want to know click and find out.

This isn't about me this about you and your attacks on other services.  This thread and the other speak for itself this is all I have to say on the issue.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: bbit on May 04, 2012, 08:00:31 PM
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For what it's worth, I'll also be watching from the sidelines for now.
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more fun times with andrew: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=79578.msg882782#msg882782

Lovely isn't it. I second the boycott aspect of this. He clearly has no intention of apologizing to people who had planned on using his service.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Andrew Bitcoiner on May 04, 2012, 08:00:37 PM
Special weekend promotion! fees reduced to 0.01%!! Enjoy!


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: rjk on May 04, 2012, 08:02:36 PM

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Whoever it was.  If you want to know click and find out.

This isn't about me this about you and your attacks on other services.  This thread and the other speak for itself this is all I have to say on the issue.
I think what he meant there was that if you actually go and click the http://bitcoinstarter.com/ link in your signature, you get this:
Code:
Index of /

Apache/2.2.21 (Win32) mod_ssl/2.2.21 OpenSSL/1.0.0e PHP/5.3.8 mod_perl/2.0.4 Perl/v5.10.1 Server at bitcoinstarter.com Port 80

Which is probably something that should be fixed, no?


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: bbit on May 04, 2012, 08:06:33 PM

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Whoever it was.  If you want to know click and find out.

This isn't about me this about you and your attacks on other services.  This thread and the other speak for itself this is all I have to say on the issue.
I think what he meant there was that if you actually go and click the http://bitcoinstarter.com/ link in your signature, you get this:
Code:
Index of /

Apache/2.2.21 (Win32) mod_ssl/2.2.21 OpenSSL/1.0.0e PHP/5.3.8 mod_perl/2.0.4 Perl/v5.10.1 Server at bitcoinstarter.com Port 80

Which is probably something that should be fixed, no?

I understood what he meant I just have no control over that  ? lol ...and yes probably should be fixed I sent a PM to let them know the responded the site is going through an overhaul... that is all I know.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: rjk on May 04, 2012, 08:07:12 PM
I understood what he meant I just have no control over that  ? lol ...and yes probably should be fixed I sent a PM to let them know the responded the site is going through an overhaul... that is all I know.
OK I thought it was your site, my bad.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: bbit on May 04, 2012, 08:08:42 PM

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I understood what he meant I just have no control over that  ? lol ...and yes probably should be fixed I sent a PM to let them know the responded the site is going through an overhaul... that is all I know.
Quote
OK I thought it was your site, my bad.

No problem rjk!  ;)


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Andrew Bitcoiner on May 04, 2012, 08:22:58 PM
832k hits in May alone!  1 million expected by next week!


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: bitcoiners on May 04, 2012, 09:00:06 PM
Have you considered making BitcoinAdvertisers on the GLBSE?  I'd buy stock.  Forgive me if this was previously mentioned.

Seconded.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Andrew Bitcoiner on May 04, 2012, 09:05:22 PM
Have you considered making BitcoinAdvertisers on the GLBSE?  I'd buy stock.  Forgive me if this was previously mentioned.

Seconded.

Keep the votes coming  :) I was offered one buyout opportunity already but I am willing to work more to see this fruition into a vibrant and active company with staff and revenue.  I have ten years of startup and advertising business experience and believe I have the skills to make this happen.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Raoul Duke on May 04, 2012, 09:07:13 PM
Have you considered making BitcoinAdvertisers on the GLBSE?  I'd buy stock.  Forgive me if this was previously mentioned.

Seconded.

Thirded lol


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Andrew Bitcoiner on May 05, 2012, 12:25:33 AM
I now own bitcoinadvertising.com as well.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Daily Anarchist on May 05, 2012, 06:21:36 AM
Your site currently says that a person could earn ~2 mBTC per click, but the bid price right now is ~0.02 BTC. Shouldn't it read that a person could earn ~20 mBTC per click?


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Tuxavant on May 06, 2012, 05:16:40 AM
BitcoinAdvertisers.com within 1 week becomes the number 2 and 3rd page rank for "bitcoin advertising" and "bitcoin advertisers"  

https://www.google.com/#hl=en&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=bitcoin+advertisers

We're comin to get you OpFab...

Congrats! I really like what you've done with this so far!!


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Tuxavant on May 06, 2012, 05:24:40 AM
Great, I got the partner list alphabetical for you tonight.

+1 TY... much easier to read!

Question though... some of my domains where I display ads are not showing up on the list... I am sharing a single iframe across several domains. Does that make a difference?


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Tuxavant on May 06, 2012, 05:30:54 AM
Does the list reset at payouts? I saw BitcoinWeekly.info in the list earlier, but it's not there now.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: payb.tc on May 06, 2012, 06:26:20 AM
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Partners
This page shows all sites where your ad will appear

payb.tc

uh, wrong.

you might want to make sure your list is kept accurate so that page's header statement isn't lying.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: payb.tc on May 06, 2012, 07:10:10 AM
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Partners
This page shows all sites where your ad will appear

payb.tc

uh, wrong.

you might want to make sure your list is kept accurate so that page's header statement isn't lying.


BitcoinAdvertisers.com is not responsible to 3rd parties that chose to use or disuse our service, your complaint has been noted and that may be addressed in the near future however I will note that the proper place to submit support requests and get the fastest turn around is http://bitcoinadvertisers.com/support.php Thank you.

not complaining, just pointing out a fact (just as you love pointing out facts, andrew).

the fact is the subtitle on that page is incorrect.

your ads will not appear on payb.tc as stated on that page.



Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: FiZiX on May 06, 2012, 08:09:11 PM
Site is down. 503 error.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: giantdragon on May 06, 2012, 08:18:00 PM
When the service will be up again?


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Dr. Bitcoin on May 06, 2012, 09:09:56 PM
When the service will be up again?
Soon.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: ingrownpocket on May 07, 2012, 07:20:30 PM
Sent PM here 3 days ago.
Sent support ticket 2 days ago.

Still didn't got any answer to my problem.

Please solve this fast because I want my money!


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Andrew Bitcoiner on May 07, 2012, 10:35:33 PM
Sent PM here 3 days ago.
Sent support ticket 2 days ago.

Still didn't got any answer to my problem.

Please solve this fast because I want my money!

Your CTR is to high, once it gets into the appropriate zone your payment will be sent.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Andrew Bitcoiner on May 08, 2012, 05:14:03 AM
592k impressions today. I think it can be officially stated that BitcoinAdvertisers.com is now the number 1 advertising network in the bitcoin community.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: ingrownpocket on May 08, 2012, 07:33:27 AM
Sent PM here 3 days ago.
Sent support ticket 2 days ago.

Still didn't got any answer to my problem.

Please solve this fast because I want my money!

Your CTR is to high, once it gets into the appropriate zone your payment will be sent.

Why didn't you answer that when I sent you PM or support ticket?

It won't get in the appropriate zone by itself. I explained why it is like this.
Where can I find this "appropriate zone"?


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on May 08, 2012, 07:40:39 AM
Why is "Facebook" listed as a "partner"?


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: ingrownpocket on May 08, 2012, 07:46:14 AM
Why is "Facebook" listed as a "partner"?

Go to facebook.com
You'll see that facebook placed a giant bitcoinAdvertisers Ad on their homepage.
I think Google will do the same.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on May 08, 2012, 07:50:31 AM
Why is "Facebook" listed as a "partner"?

Go to facebook.com
You'll see that facebook placed a giant bitcoinAdvertisers Ad on their homepage.
I think Google will do the same.

If you mean that Andrew paid Facebook for some advertising space for bitcoinadvertisers.com, that's understandable (although I have yet to see any) but I don't think that qualifies anyone as a "partner" or else I'd be a partner of Walmart for buying a gift card.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Dr. Bitcoin on May 08, 2012, 11:19:11 AM
Why is "Facebook" listed as a "partner"?
Someone may have put an ad on Facebook application. List shows always only the domain, even if the ad is on ex. mydomain.com/mycoolhomepage/  :) Anyway, new partner page is coming soon.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on May 08, 2012, 11:20:11 AM
Why is "Facebook" listed as a "partner"?
Someone may have put an ad on Facebook application. List shows always only the domain, even if the ad is on ex. mydomain.com/mycoolhomepage/  :) Anyway, new partner page is coming soon.

Cool!


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: ingrownpocket on May 08, 2012, 12:21:59 PM
Why is "Facebook" listed as a "partner"?

Go to facebook.com
You'll see that facebook placed a giant bitcoinAdvertisers Ad on their homepage.
I think Google will do the same.

If you mean that Andrew paid Facebook for some advertising space for bitcoinadvertisers.com, that's understandable (although I have yet to see any) but I don't think that qualifies anyone as a "partner" or else I'd be a partner of Walmart for buying a gift card.

I was joking.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Andrew Bitcoiner on May 09, 2012, 06:38:50 PM
Added payout history feature for partners, fixed incrementing CTR bug with certain sites.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: 2weiX on May 09, 2012, 07:22:04 PM
would really like to see how my ads are doing.
maybe refill / adjust the bid?


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Andrew Bitcoiner on May 09, 2012, 07:24:04 PM
would really like to see how my ads are doing.
maybe refill / adjust the bid?

Are they not listed on http://bitcoinadvertisers.com/stats.php ? I will look into adding a bid history feature for expired bids as well.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: 2weiX on May 09, 2012, 07:26:15 PM
wow added my ad 5 minutes ago, 44 impressions, 11 clicks.
sure you have real numbers?


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: 2weiX on May 09, 2012, 07:31:31 PM
wow added my ad 5 minutes ago, 44 impressions, 11 clicks.
sure you have real numbers?

Which one is your ad?


Buy Bitcoins in Berlin Germany - FACE TO FACE!


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Daily Anarchist on May 10, 2012, 02:11:35 AM
Am I out to lunch on this one? Because nobody commented on my earlier notification that 0.01 BTC is NOT equivalent to 1 mBTC. It needs to be fixed on your front page.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Dr. Bitcoin on May 10, 2012, 02:41:55 AM
Am I out to lunch on this one? Because nobody commented on my earlier notification that 0.01 BTC is NOT equivalent to 1 mBTC. It needs to be fixed on your front page.
Fixed, thanks!  ;D


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Daily Anarchist on May 10, 2012, 02:54:40 AM
Am I out to lunch on this one? Because nobody commented on my earlier notification that 0.01 BTC is NOT equivalent to 1 mBTC. It needs to be fixed on your front page.
Fixed, thanks!  ;D

Excellent!


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Yankee (BitInstant) on May 10, 2012, 12:33:31 PM
I just want to let everyone know, we've been using BA.com for a little over a week now and it has been generating us quality clicks and lots of them!

Superb job Andrew! You are an integral piece of the Bitcoin ecosystem...I expect nothing less from you now  ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Tuxavant on May 10, 2012, 12:34:34 PM
Superb job Andrew! You are an integral piece of the Bitcoin ecosystem...I expect nothing less from you now  ;D ;D ;D ;D
+10000 internets!

I knew andrew was going to be a bitcoin bad ass since he put up bitcoingunparts.com  ;D


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: 2weiX on May 10, 2012, 12:36:16 PM
what if an ad submitted by me has 0 views?
any way to change that, or are the BTC i sent to pay for that ad lost to me?


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Tuxavant on May 10, 2012, 12:37:14 PM
what if an ad submitted by me has 0 views?
any way to change that, or are the BTC i sent to pay for that ad lost to me?

Agreed... there needs to be a way to edit ads.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: FiZiX on May 10, 2012, 01:42:22 PM
I've now added one of your ad frames to my mobile site. I have it set at 290 x 70 and most of the content seems to fit OK but sometimes the "Ads by BitcoinAdvertisers" gets cut off.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: giantdragon on May 10, 2012, 09:45:56 PM
I am using your banners on my service Daily Bitcoins. I have not received payments for few last days, when I enter addresses to your Stats section it shows a message:
"Your payout is delayed, please contact support if this problem doesn't go away in a week"

Addresses:
1B8eNdu4567BWb1jeBdcJDYEssaYnZXcjY
1Fz8jjBeug5KkPwEzAixjx71PyeofUN3HV


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: giantdragon on May 10, 2012, 10:04:52 PM
I checked your address and your CTR is way too high that could be indicating bad clicks.  When it gets down to the appropriate levels you will be paid.
What do you mean? That my website's visitors too often clicked your banner? I have not found any limits on your website!


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: giantdragon on May 10, 2012, 10:24:55 PM
I checked your address and your CTR is way too high that could be indicating bad clicks.  When it gets down to the appropriate levels you will be paid.
What do you mean? That my website's visitors too often clicked your banner? I have not found any limits on your website!


That is correct, the only way to measure for bad or fraudulent clicks is by averaging the percentage of what a normal click through rate versus one with fraudulent clicks.  In order to protect advertisers investment we have to be aggressive with what we believe the acceptable click through rate is and if or when your traffic normalizes to what it is set to for the number of impressions expected you will get your payout.

High CTR not always indicates to the fraud, it can highly vary from site-to-site. There are plenty of other methods how to detect fraud.

Currently you are misleading customers promising "Currently you could earn 10.89 mBTC for one visitor" but telling nothing about CTR limits! It is really bad business practice!


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: SgtSpike on May 10, 2012, 10:35:14 PM
Honestly, the best way to do it (in my opinion) is by a combination of total impressions and unique impressions.  Something like X(Unique) + Y(Total) = Payout, where X might be 0.01 BTC and Y might be 0.0001 BTC.  And of course, check for what browser is being used, etc, so bots aren't counted.

Going by CPC is pretty sketchy on both the publisher and management side.  The publisher might be tempted to click on his own links, or otherwise incentivise the clicks for other people, and the management side might be tempted to ban sites that appear to have a high CTR, when it very well could be legitimate traffic.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: terrytibbs on May 10, 2012, 10:35:38 PM
[popcorn gif]


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: giantdragon on May 10, 2012, 11:01:55 PM
The CTR rate we use is private to prevent abuse.
If you would be a real company which must obey EU consumer protection laws, you would must to clearly specify all conditions on your front page (not just hiding in somewhere in the middle of ToS) and definitely declare exact CTR value, exceeding which customers will not receive payments. Otherwise it would be classified as customer's misleading! A non-Bitcoin company in these circumstances would receive a bunch of lawsuits and with 99.999% chance you would be ordered to pay all fund earned.

It is a big advantage of the Bitcoin economy that you can start any business and be away from state regulations, so I cannot demand anything from you. But I have chosen to make this issue public to let the other users decide to agree your conditions or not.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: SgtSpike on May 10, 2012, 11:02:54 PM
The CTR rate we use is private to prevent abuse.
If you would be a real company which must obey EU consumer protection laws, you would must to clearly specify all conditions on your front page (not just hiding in somewhere in the middle of ToS) and definitely declare exact CTR value, exceeding which customers will not receive payments. Otherwise it would be classified as customer's misleading! A non-Bitcoin company in these circumstances would receive a bunch of lawsuits and with 99.999% chance you would to pay all fund earned.

It is a big advantage of the Bitcoin economy that you can start any business and be away from state regulations, so I cannot demand anything from you. But I have chosen to make this issue public to let the other users decide to agree your conditions or not.
I disagree.

Does Google disclose the rates at which they determine a website to have fraudulent clicks?  As far as I've ever seen, no.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Daily Anarchist on May 10, 2012, 11:04:14 PM
Honestly, the best way to do it (in my opinion) is by a combination of total impressions and unique impressions.  Something like X(Unique) + Y(Total) = Payout, where X might be 0.01 BTC and Y might be 0.0001 BTC.  And of course, check for what browser is being used, etc, so bots aren't counted.

Going by CPC is pretty sketchy on both the publisher and management side.  The publisher might be tempted to click on his own links, or otherwise incentivise the clicks for other people, and the management side might be tempted to ban sites that appear to have a high CTR, when it very well could be legitimate traffic.

I agree with this. I think CPM is more honest in general and better for everybody. Consider the fact that some advertisers might get more impressions because they bid higher but aren't getting very many clicks because their ads aren't enticing. The publisher loses out because the ads aren't getting clicked. Plus, sometimes publishers like to click their own ads because they are genuinely interested, but they don't click because they don't want to look fraudulent.

That's one of the bad things about Google Adsense, is the publishers are always left wondering how many genuine clicks are being rejected by Google because Google thinks it looks fraudulent, all the while the advertiser is paying for the clicks as if they were real, so Google rakes it in and publishers get screwed.



Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: giantdragon on May 10, 2012, 11:08:00 PM
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Does Google disclose the rates at which they determine a website to have fraudulent clicks?  As far as I've ever seen, no.
Google never promise fixed CPC rate and then reject payments. They clearly state that earnings can vary and are not guaranteed. But your site does in opposite!

Quote from your site:
Quote
Currently you could earn 10.89 mBTC for one visitor!

I just ask to stop misleading advertising!


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Daily Anarchist on May 10, 2012, 11:11:43 PM
That's one of the bad things about Google Adsense, is the publishers are always left wondering how many genuine clicks are being rejected by Google because Google thinks it looks fraudulent, all the while the advertiser is paying for the clicks as if they were real, so Google rakes it in and publishers get screwed.

That's not true. Google refunds advertisers for the value paid for clicks that are found to be fraudulent.


An open-source script or something would be nice. Either way, ferreting out fraudulent clicks is WAY MORE resource intense than simply making things CPM. More efficiency means more savings for advertisers and more income for publishers.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Daily Anarchist on May 10, 2012, 11:13:11 PM
Honestly, the best way to do it (in my opinion) is by a combination of total impressions and unique impressions.  Something like X(Unique) + Y(Total) = Payout, where X might be 0.01 BTC and Y might be 0.0001 BTC.  And of course, check for what browser is being used, etc, so bots aren't counted.

Going by CPC is pretty sketchy on both the publisher and management side.  The publisher might be tempted to click on his own links, or otherwise incentivise the clicks for other people, and the management side might be tempted to ban sites that appear to have a high CTR, when it very well could be legitimate traffic.

I agree with this. I think CPM is more honest in general and better for everybody. Consider the fact that some advertisers might get more impressions because they bid higher but aren't getting very many clicks because their ads aren't enticing. The publisher loses out because the ads aren't getting clicked. Plus, sometimes publishers like to click their own ads because they are genuinely interested, but they don't click because they don't want to look fraudulent.

That's one of the bad things about Google Adsense, is the publishers are always left wondering how many genuine clicks are being rejected by Google because Google thinks it looks fraudulent, all the while the advertiser is paying for the clicks as if they were real, so Google rakes it in and publishers get screwed.

Well, no advertising is a guarantee of new business but online advertising has inherently measurable metrics which advertisers can use to judge what is best for them.  I setup this system because I believe it is the best middle ground for all our partners to get the most value for using the service.  :)

Any chance of giving publishers and advertisers the option of CPM or CPC? It would be nice as a publisher to specify that I only accept CPM ads.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Daily Anarchist on May 10, 2012, 11:18:17 PM
Honestly, the best way to do it (in my opinion) is by a combination of total impressions and unique impressions.  Something like X(Unique) + Y(Total) = Payout, where X might be 0.01 BTC and Y might be 0.0001 BTC.  And of course, check for what browser is being used, etc, so bots aren't counted.

Going by CPC is pretty sketchy on both the publisher and management side.  The publisher might be tempted to click on his own links, or otherwise incentivise the clicks for other people, and the management side might be tempted to ban sites that appear to have a high CTR, when it very well could be legitimate traffic.

I agree with this. I think CPM is more honest in general and better for everybody. Consider the fact that some advertisers might get more impressions because they bid higher but aren't getting very many clicks because their ads aren't enticing. The publisher loses out because the ads aren't getting clicked. Plus, sometimes publishers like to click their own ads because they are genuinely interested, but they don't click because they don't want to look fraudulent.

That's one of the bad things about Google Adsense, is the publishers are always left wondering how many genuine clicks are being rejected by Google because Google thinks it looks fraudulent, all the while the advertiser is paying for the clicks as if they were real, so Google rakes it in and publishers get screwed.

Well, no advertising is a guarantee of new business but online advertising has inherently measurable metrics which advertisers can use to judge what is best for them.  I setup this system because I believe it is the best middle ground for all our partners to get the most value for using the service.  :)

Any chance of giving publishers and advertisers the option of CPM or CPC? It would be nice as a publisher to specify that I only accept CPM ads.

Sure perhaps in a future version we can do that.  The more people that ask for it the faster we can get to it.  Based on user demand the next release will have graphic banners for publishers who chose to allow those on their site.

Rome wasn't built in a day, so I don't expect bitcoinadvertisers to have all the bells and whistles day one. Keep up the good work!


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: SgtSpike on May 10, 2012, 11:45:04 PM
That's one of the bad things about Google Adsense, is the publishers are always left wondering how many genuine clicks are being rejected by Google because Google thinks it looks fraudulent, all the while the advertiser is paying for the clicks as if they were real, so Google rakes it in and publishers get screwed.
Well, no, that's not true.  Google either pays you everything, or waits for a month, then informs you that the $100 you earned last month was due to fraudulent clicking activity, and you won't be paid.  They don't reject a certain number of clicks.  If they see fradulent clicking, then they reject ALL of the clicks, and all of your payments.

I've had it happen to three websites of mine, and have since forever sworn off of Google's Adsense.  They let you appeal the ban, but then decline your appeal 99% of the time.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: giantdragon on May 11, 2012, 12:16:23 AM
Sadly I am am having to post this quote from our TOS to head off a likely dispute with a disgruntled partner (e.g., web publisher) who is making inaccurate claims about the service and is likely to make those grievances public.

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The materials on BitcoinAdvertisers.com's web site are provided "as is". BitcoinAdvertisers.com makes no warranties, expressed or implied, and hereby disclaims and negates all other warranties, including without limitation, implied warranties or conditions of merchantability, fitness for a particular purpose, or non-infringement of intellectual property or other violation of rights. Further, BitcoinAdvertisers.com does not warrant or make any representations concerning the accuracy, likely results, or reliability of the use of the materials on its Internet web site or otherwise relating to such materials or on any sites linked to this site.

In no event shall BitcoinAdvertisers.com or its suppliers be liable for any damages (including, without limitation, damages for loss of data or profit, or due to business interruption,) arising out of the use or inability to use the materials on BitcoinAdvertisers.com's Internet site, even if BitcoinAdvertisers.com or a BitcoinAdvertisers.com authorized representative has been notified orally or in writing of the possibility of such damage. Because some jurisdictions do not allow limitations on implied warranties, or limitations of liability for consequential or incidental damages, these limitations may not apply to you.

http://bitcoinadvertisers.com/tos.php
State it clearly on the visible place (e.g. footer) that users could know that they are not guaranteed with payout!

For example: "Website operator reserves the right to reject payments on its sole discretion!".


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: SgtSpike on May 11, 2012, 12:27:59 AM
Sadly I am am having to post this quote from our TOS to head off a likely dispute with a disgruntled partner (e.g., web publisher) who is making inaccurate claims about the service and is likely to make those grievances public.

Quote
The materials on BitcoinAdvertisers.com's web site are provided "as is". BitcoinAdvertisers.com makes no warranties, expressed or implied, and hereby disclaims and negates all other warranties, including without limitation, implied warranties or conditions of merchantability, fitness for a particular purpose, or non-infringement of intellectual property or other violation of rights. Further, BitcoinAdvertisers.com does not warrant or make any representations concerning the accuracy, likely results, or reliability of the use of the materials on its Internet web site or otherwise relating to such materials or on any sites linked to this site.

In no event shall BitcoinAdvertisers.com or its suppliers be liable for any damages (including, without limitation, damages for loss of data or profit, or due to business interruption,) arising out of the use or inability to use the materials on BitcoinAdvertisers.com's Internet site, even if BitcoinAdvertisers.com or a BitcoinAdvertisers.com authorized representative has been notified orally or in writing of the possibility of such damage. Because some jurisdictions do not allow limitations on implied warranties, or limitations of liability for consequential or incidental damages, these limitations may not apply to you.

http://bitcoinadvertisers.com/tos.php
State it clearly on the visible place (e.g. footer) that users could know that they are not guaranteed with payout!

For example: "Website operator reserves the right to reject payments on its sole discretion!".
I disagree that this is necessary.  Every CPC-based advertiser will reject a site that is receiving fraudulent clicks.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: giantdragon on May 11, 2012, 12:44:39 AM
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Every CPC-based advertiser will reject a site that is receiving fraudulent clicks.
I absolutely agree with you, but in this case BitcoinAdvertisers.com admin rejects legitimate clicks only at reason that the publisher has high CTR.

P.S. I suppose the owner just don't have enough skills to implement normal fraud detecting script and therefore rely on the CTR.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: SgtSpike on May 11, 2012, 12:56:13 AM
Quote
Every CPC-based advertiser will reject a site that is receiving fraudulent clicks.
I absolutely agree with you, but in this case BitcoinAdvertisers.com admin rejects legitimate clicks only at reason that the publisher has high CTR.

P.S. I suppose the owner just don't have enough skills to implement normal fraud detecting script and therefore rely on the CTR.
Pretty sure that's how most other sites do it too, but maybe you know more about it than I do?  I know Google has some fairly complex (obviously not working well) methods of detecting click fraud, but most small-time advertising sites just use CTR and statistics to figure out who is cheating and who is not.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: giantdragon on May 11, 2012, 01:22:45 AM
Quote
Every CPC-based advertiser will reject a site that is receiving fraudulent clicks.
I absolutely agree with you, but in this case BitcoinAdvertisers.com admin rejects legitimate clicks only at reason that the publisher has high CTR.

P.S. I suppose the owner just don't have enough skills to implement normal fraud detecting script and therefore rely on the CTR.
Pretty sure that's how most other sites do it too, but maybe you know more about it than I do?  I know Google has some fairly complex (obviously not working well) methods of detecting click fraud, but most small-time advertising sites just use CTR and statistics to figure out who is cheating and who is not.
I have implemented complex fraud detection algorithm on the CoinURL and it seems to work fine (I manually analyzed the logs and don't found any significant number of suspicious clicks). Of course it was not easy to implement and I need to periodically update filters, but it eliminates any disputes with publishers which emerged with the BitcoinAdvertisers.com. Relying solely on the CTR looks very primitive and if the admin wants to attract much more users, he must seriously work on the software.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: terrytibbs on May 11, 2012, 01:31:10 AM
I have implemented complex fraud detection algorithm on the CoinURL and it seems to work fine (I manually analyzed the logs and don't found any significant number of suspicious clicks). Of course it was not easy to implement and I need to periodically update filters, but it eliminates any disputes with publishers which emerged with the BitcoinAdvertisers.com. Relying solely on the CTR looks very primitive and if the admin wants to attract much more users, he must seriously work on the software.
+1


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: giantdragon on May 11, 2012, 01:39:20 AM
I have decided to suspend your banners on the Daily Bitcoins. I hope other users would also evaluate features and conditions that BitcoinAdvertisers.com operator offers and make a correct choice!

P.S. I have requested a refund of remaining funds, but you have declined.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: ingrownpocket on May 11, 2012, 07:55:55 AM
http://www.bitcoinadvertisers.com/partnerstat.php?p=1EZAgDQZcYBoTsYrSEm17r9cHgcA26mH7H (http://www.bitcoinadvertisers.com/partnerstat.php?p=1EZAgDQZcYBoTsYrSEm17r9cHgcA26mH7H)

http://www.bitcoinadvertisers.com/partnerstat.php?p=13jtB3VsnH8gM1ujiTw5LPvJEhKoFHiuYn (http://www.bitcoinadvertisers.com/partnerstat.php?p=13jtB3VsnH8gM1ujiTw5LPvJEhKoFHiuYn)

http://www.bitcoinadvertisers.com/partnerstat.php?p=1JLYihaNhtTZ78sJgBscbWq27j126mcWKU (http://www.bitcoinadvertisers.com/partnerstat.php?p=1JLYihaNhtTZ78sJgBscbWq27j126mcWKU)

I think it's time to correct that 'Impressions' bug...


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Matoking on May 11, 2012, 12:56:33 PM
I have a problem with delayed payouts like giantdragon had. The payment address is 1LagcvMP2hZpvHbuadfQEVkPGGUKZxrrXa :
http://bitcoinadvertisers.com/partnerstat.php?p=1LagcvMP2hZpvHbuadfQEVkPGGUKZxrrXa


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Dr. Bitcoin on May 11, 2012, 01:19:51 PM
I have a problem
Fixed!


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: giantdragon on May 11, 2012, 03:53:12 PM
Warning message disappeared, but now I see balance 0 BTC and payment still not received!


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: rjk on May 11, 2012, 04:00:08 PM
Warning message disappeared, but now I see balance 0 BTC and payment still not received!

You got banned. True adsense style, but without the automated warning email lol
So can I ban all customers by clicking the fuck out of all the bitcoinadvertisers links with a few proxies? ;D


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: giantdragon on May 11, 2012, 04:26:12 PM
At least you can leave them without a payout if you click enough. Given that even the traffic stats for partners are public, the system can be easily exploited.
Totally agree.
I see no future for this service if the admin will not invest his time/money in the development, IMHO.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Dr. Bitcoin on May 11, 2012, 06:10:02 PM
I see no future for this service if the admin will not invest his time/money in the development, IMHO.
Most of development time is used for the new version, only necessary updates are done for the current site.  :)


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: ingrownpocket on May 11, 2012, 07:09:38 PM
I have decided to suspend your banners on the Daily Bitcoins. I hope other users would also evaluate features and conditions that BitcoinAdvertisers.com operator offers and make a correct choice!

P.S. I have requested a refund of remaining funds, but you have declined.

Same here.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: terrytibbs on May 11, 2012, 07:12:53 PM
Suffice to say that Andrew does not posess the technical know-how to run and support a site and service like this.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: TizzyTazzy on May 11, 2012, 10:06:39 PM
I'll be purchasing some ad space for my web hosting services to see how this goes.

Nice website by the way.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: ingrownpocket on May 12, 2012, 07:42:42 AM
http://www.bitcoinadvertisers.com/partnerstat.php?p=1EZAgDQZcYBoTsYrSEm17r9cHgcA26mH7H (http://www.bitcoinadvertisers.com/partnerstat.php?p=1EZAgDQZcYBoTsYrSEm17r9cHgcA26mH7H)

http://www.bitcoinadvertisers.com/partnerstat.php?p=13jtB3VsnH8gM1ujiTw5LPvJEhKoFHiuYn (http://www.bitcoinadvertisers.com/partnerstat.php?p=13jtB3VsnH8gM1ujiTw5LPvJEhKoFHiuYn)

http://www.bitcoinadvertisers.com/partnerstat.php?p=1JLYihaNhtTZ78sJgBscbWq27j126mcWKU (http://www.bitcoinadvertisers.com/partnerstat.php?p=1JLYihaNhtTZ78sJgBscbWq27j126mcWKU)

I think it's time to correct that 'Impressions' bug...

I'm still waiting for my Bitcoins.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Kris on May 13, 2012, 03:28:42 PM
You should quit this before you waste 6 months into this like the other ad networks  ;) Let me know if you have an affordable rate for marketing work as I am definitely interested in bringing you on for a few of my sites. 


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Kris on May 13, 2012, 03:37:22 PM
I just had the great idea to post something similar as you did in my thread, no hurt intended ;)


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Kris on May 13, 2012, 05:28:13 PM
I am not in this game to make profits, but rather to provide good services to people, but yes you are right in that I need a partner, who knows how to talk to people. My logic is very strange when it comes to socializing. And most people take my words as being arrogant or similar, or so I've been told.

I like this saying,  All good things comes to those who wait.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Andrew Bitcoiner on May 13, 2012, 05:39:36 PM
I am not in this game to make profits, but rather to provide good services to people, but yes you are right in that I need a partner, who knows how to talk to people. My logic is very strange when it comes to socializing. And most people take my words as being arrogant or similar, or so I've been told.

In my experience just being honest sounds blunt, arrogant, or hurtful to people but I get called arrogant and much worse when just being a nice guy.  Being more cerebral ("stuck in ones head") then average people most developers are a bit socially awkward (even the trendy nerdy ones I have know). Now you have 8-12 good looking services but you don't have a business plan wrapped around them and I can tell you have more time to think those things through and are not constrained by needing to make a profit (like I am) when making a service.   If I were you I would try to find someone in your strange country (i.e., if you live where poor fools are used to paying $75 an hour for web development it should be easy!) willing to invest into or volunteer for a business manager that understands online services where you can work on the tech things to your hearts content you will be on a better path to success.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: giantdragon on May 14, 2012, 11:42:12 PM
Stop lying customers about 1% commission fee!

Total Paid Out: 38.251410366 BTC
Fees Earned: 1.190484634  BTC

Turn on your calculator, it is ~3.1%!


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: ingrownpocket on May 15, 2012, 08:23:42 AM
Stop lying customers about 1% commission fee!

Total Paid Out: 38.251410366 BTC
Fees Earned: 1.190484634  BTC

Turn on your calculator, it is ~3.1%!


Fees Earned: 1.190484634  BTC + the money not paid to publishers


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Andrew Bitcoiner on May 17, 2012, 09:28:13 PM
Bitcoinadvertisers.com now number one Google search for "bitcoin advertisers"!

https://www.google.com/#hl=en&sclient=psy-ab&q=bitcoin+advertisers&oq=bitcoin+advertisers

Our goal is to do the same with "bitcoin advertising" in the weeks ahead.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: payb.tc on May 17, 2012, 11:07:01 PM
Our goal is to do the same with "bitcoin advertising" in the weeks ahead.

perhaps then, you should link to your site every time you type "bitcoin advertising (http://www.disney.com)" :P


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Andrew Bitcoiner on May 18, 2012, 12:34:45 AM
Our goal is to do the same with "bitcoin advertising" in the weeks ahead.

perhaps then, you should link to your site every time you type "bitcoin advertising (http://www.disney.com)" :P


Humorous!  Even a step ahead of me I'm planning something similar to that for the next Press Release coming out in a couple days.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Andrew Bitcoiner on May 18, 2012, 04:15:09 AM
I just thought this was interesting and thought I would share:

The top 10 fewest countries of origin on BitcoinAdvertisers.com   

        Tadjikistan   13   13   8.62 KB   
   Marshall Islands   10   10   6.53 KB   
   Central African Republic   8   8   5.34 KB   
   Palau   pw   6   6   3.97 KB   
   Equatorial Guinea   5   5   3.31 KB   
   Mauritania   3   3   2.04 KB   
   Greenland   2   2   1.32 KB   
   Reunion (French)   1   1   683 Bytes   
   Saint Kitts & Nevis Anguilla   1   1   684 Bytes


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Raoul Duke on May 18, 2012, 08:11:23 AM
   Saint Kitts & Nevis Anguilla   1   1   684 Bytes

Tom Williams? lol


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Andrew Bitcoiner on May 18, 2012, 04:07:43 PM
New press release: http://www.webwire.com/ViewPressRel.asp?aId=156681


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Daily Anarchist on May 18, 2012, 04:12:26 PM
I don't see what all the hubbub is about. So, farmvillefeed is putting up bitcoinadvertisers ads? That's nice.

I was hoping you'd unveiled version 2.0, with image ads. When's that coming?

 


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Andrew Bitcoiner on May 18, 2012, 04:21:28 PM
I don't see what all the hubbub is about. So, farmvillefeed is putting up bitcoinadvertisers ads? That's nice.

I was hoping you'd unveiled version 2.0, with image ads. When's that coming?

 

Image ads are coming within a few days.  Major site redesign (with login options and graphs) about a month away. 


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Andrew Bitcoiner on May 18, 2012, 07:20:23 PM
PROMOTION: I will be giving away 1btc worth of free advertising to a charity or non profit of your choice, preferably bitcoin related. 

Please submit your suggestions on this thread, I will close the promotion and make the ad sometime Sunday.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: senbonzakura on May 18, 2012, 07:24:50 PM
nice


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: paraipan on May 18, 2012, 08:45:18 PM
PROMOTION: I will be giving away 1btc worth of free advertising to a charity or non profit of your choice, preferably bitcoin related. 

Please submit your suggestions on this thread, I will close the promotion and make the ad sometime Sunday.

http://bitcoin100.org (thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=52543.0)


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: paraipan on May 22, 2012, 10:27:45 AM
PROMOTION: I will be giving away 1btc worth of free advertising to a charity or non profit of your choice, preferably bitcoin related.  

Please submit your suggestions on this thread, I will close the promotion and make the ad sometime Sunday.

http://bitcoin100.org (thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=52543.0)

Looks very worthy  :)

Alright so the winner by unanimous decision is http://bitcoin100.org! Congratulations, please PM me with

Ad text
URL http://bitcoin100.org
Link text



Thank you Andrew, you message was posted in the bitcoin100 thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=52543.msg914245#msg914245) too, we will get back with an ad text shortly.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: freespirit on May 23, 2012, 10:24:04 AM
* YOU get paid every .25btc worth of clicks on your website (anti-click fraud measures are in place, abuse the system get banned, very simple).
My account accumulated 0.40 BTC but still no payment (the previous payment was 5444 min ago for 0.0495 BTC). I've also wrote to you via your support form yesterday about this but still got no reply.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: ingrownpocket on May 23, 2012, 11:43:52 AM
* YOU get paid every .25btc worth of clicks on your website (anti-click fraud measures are in place, abuse the system get banned, very simple).
My account accumulated 0.40 BTC but still no payment (the previous payment was 5444 min ago for 0.0495 BTC). I've also wrote to you via your support form yesterday about this but still got no reply.

You'll probably be scammed like many of us.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: giantdragon on May 23, 2012, 01:12:00 PM
* YOU get paid every .25btc worth of clicks on your website (anti-click fraud measures are in place, abuse the system get banned, very simple).
My account accumulated 0.40 BTC but still no payment (the previous payment was 5444 min ago for 0.0495 BTC). I've also wrote to you via your support form yesterday about this but still got no reply.
You probably have high, by Andrew Bitcoiner's point of view, click-through rate. Therefore you will not receive payment.
BTW, I am in the same situation with missing payments for Daily Bitcoins.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Daily Anarchist on May 23, 2012, 03:28:21 PM
Ohhhh shittyballs! We got image ads up and running!  ;D

Can't wait until you get the 160px X 600px tower ads up. I got a ton of space for them on my website. Lot's of traffic, too!

Thanks for allowing people to create the 120px X 600px. It's a size most people don't think about, but it's out there. I have a nice spot for it in my forum.

Keep up the good work!



Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: freespirit on May 23, 2012, 06:42:58 PM
* YOU get paid every .25btc worth of clicks on your website (anti-click fraud measures are in place, abuse the system get banned, very simple).
My account accumulated 0.40 BTC but still no payment (the previous payment was 5444 min ago for 0.0495 BTC). I've also wrote to you via your support form yesterday about this but still got no reply.
You probably have high, by Andrew Bitcoiner's point of view, click-through rate. Therefore you will not receive payment.
BTW, I am in the same situation with missing payments for Daily Bitcoins.
I do not think so, the CTR is 0.15%.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: bbit on May 23, 2012, 07:55:35 PM
has anyone ever been paid from this service ?  ???


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: bbit on May 23, 2012, 07:56:15 PM
* YOU get paid every .25btc worth of clicks on your website (anti-click fraud measures are in place, abuse the system get banned, very simple).
My account accumulated 0.40 BTC but still no payment (the previous payment was 5444 min ago for 0.0495 BTC). I've also wrote to you via your support form yesterday about this but still got no reply.

i'm going out on a limb but like this guy said you probably got scammed like I did ....


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: freespirit on May 23, 2012, 08:04:05 PM
has anyone ever been paid from this service ?  ???
Yes. I have been paid before but a few days ago payments stopped.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: ingrownpocket on May 23, 2012, 08:13:29 PM
SCAM

Here you go: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=83328.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=83328.0)


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: giantdragon on May 23, 2012, 08:23:13 PM
Payment still missing!


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: ingrownpocket on May 25, 2012, 03:02:59 PM
http://bitcoin-shitlist.com/2012/05/25/bitcoinadvertisers-com/ (http://bitcoin-shitlist.com/2012/05/25/bitcoinadvertisers-com/)

I still don't know why I was banned.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Daily Anarchist on May 25, 2012, 05:17:46 PM
The images aren't appearing. They looked great for the first few days. But right now the images are broken.

Also, is nobody purchasing image ads?


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Daily Anarchist on May 25, 2012, 05:37:44 PM
The images aren't appearing. They looked great for the first few days. But right now the images are broken.

Also, is nobody purchasing image ads?

Thanks for the error report, please send me a snapshot at tradebitcoin@gmail.com

Images sent.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: TheBitMan on May 28, 2012, 01:08:29 AM
Site works good, made good amount of BTC off of very few clicks.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: giantdragon on June 02, 2012, 05:22:39 PM
Website: dailybitcoins.org

Addresses:
1B8eNdu4567BWb1jeBdcJDYEssaYnZXcjY (372 clicks)
1Fz8jjBeug5KkPwEzAixjx71PyeofUN3HV (122 clicks)

Payment missing for total 494 clicks, i.e. 5.86 BTC at current rate displayed on your site.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: giantdragon on June 02, 2012, 05:45:47 PM
If you fail to recall I will remind you that you terminated your agreement with us a long time ago and since I am not interested in resuming this partnership
By law, terminating a contact requires making a refund. Clause that you can simply terminate my account without giving money back is absolutely illegal!

your balance for the first address was only http://bitcoinadvertisers.com/partnerstat.php?p=1B8eNdu4567BWb1jeBdcJDYEssaYnZXcjY 0.0099
You promised to pay about 11 mBTC per click on main page, but now you tell me that 372(!!!) clicks are worth just 0.0099 BTC. It is ridiculous!

and the second I don't even see evidence existed.
Code with this address had been posted on Daily Bitcoins for few weeks. Google caches periodically websites (and probably keeps all data, not just latest copy), therefore with decree of the court the Google can provide proof agaist you.

P.S. Exactly as before, I see no willing to solve the problem from your side.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: ingrownpocket on June 02, 2012, 06:40:44 PM
http://www.bitcoinadvertisers.com/partnerstat.php?p=1EZAgDQZcYBoTsYrSEm17r9cHgcA26mH7H (http://www.bitcoinadvertisers.com/partnerstat.php?p=1EZAgDQZcYBoTsYrSEm17r9cHgcA26mH7H)

http://www.bitcoinadvertisers.com/partnerstat.php?p=13jtB3VsnH8gM1ujiTw5LPvJEhKoFHiuYn (http://www.bitcoinadvertisers.com/partnerstat.php?p=13jtB3VsnH8gM1ujiTw5LPvJEhKoFHiuYn)

http://www.bitcoinadvertisers.com/partnerstat.php?p=1JLYihaNhtTZ78sJgBscbWq27j126mcWKU (http://www.bitcoinadvertisers.com/partnerstat.php?p=1JLYihaNhtTZ78sJgBscbWq27j126mcWKU)

Website: www.coinad.com


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: giantdragon on June 02, 2012, 08:29:58 PM
is dynamically updated based on advertiser deposits, I have no control over what advertisers pay for ads and neither is it a CPC promise, the key word here is "could" not "promise".
0.0099 BTC per 372 clicks = 0.0000266 BTC per click = 0.0266 mBTC comparing to ~10 mBTC you have promoted. I agree that price fluctuates with the market, but not on 375 times difference (!!!). It is pure misleading of consumer, which is punishable in most countries.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: giantdragon on June 02, 2012, 08:37:44 PM
you do not understand what dynamic means.
You are really crazy!
I regularly visit BitcoinAdvertisers and always see price about 10 mBTC. I have never seen amounts even less than 1 mBTC.

P.S. It is not worth for me to sue you due to high legal costs, but I will try to contact your hosting provider asking to terminate your account. I suppose he don't want to host a fraudster on his servers.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: giantdragon on June 02, 2012, 08:46:47 PM
I hope you do it will help with my defamation case.
Protecting own legal consumer rights is not a defamation.
BTW, I really would like to meet you in the court! Many other users I think also.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: ingrownpocket on June 02, 2012, 09:52:05 PM
Am I going to get an answer or I really have to open support ticket?


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: 2weiX on June 04, 2012, 08:27:17 AM
http://www.bitcoinadvertisers.com/partnerstat.php?p=12weixK5ttMdjeoQgdGca9mKMKxkCxZkBG

payment has been delayed for many many weeks now. contaced support twice, no answer.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: ingrownpocket on June 04, 2012, 09:26:51 AM
http://www.bitcoinadvertisers.com/partnerstat.php?p=12weixK5ttMdjeoQgdGca9mKMKxkCxZkBG

payment has been delayed for many many weeks now. contaced support twice, no answer.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=83328.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=83328.0)


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: BitcoinAdvertisers.com on June 04, 2012, 06:23:03 PM
This is now official, thanks mods.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: 2weiX on June 05, 2012, 05:48:28 AM
http://www.bitcoinadvertisers.com/partnerstat.php?p=12weixK5ttMdjeoQgdGca9mKMKxkCxZkBG

payment has been delayed for many many weeks now. contaced support twice, no answer.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=83328.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=83328.0)


I am not interested in namecalling.

I got the usual response "your CTR is too high", which I *personally* don't get, but since I've never before meddled with ads, well, could be standard practise, whatever. No quantification of the acceptable CTR, but no accusation of fraud on my part, either.

PM'd him back, we'll see how that goes.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Daily Anarchist on June 05, 2012, 03:33:51 PM
I really don't know whether or not all of these people have genuine gripes or not. I'm not taking sides, but I would like to aide in Andrew's defense at least a little bit.

For the time that I had BA word ads in my forum I did receive payment. Not only that, but I even clicked on the ad once just to make sure it worked and whether or not it popped up in a new tab or not. And I was not slapped with fraudulent CTR.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: BitcoinAdvertisers.com on June 05, 2012, 03:37:30 PM
http://www.bitcoinadvertisers.com/partnerstat.php?p=12weixK5ttMdjeoQgdGca9mKMKxkCxZkBG

payment has been delayed for many many weeks now. contaced support twice, no answer.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=83328.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=83328.0)


I am not interested in namecalling.

I got the usual response "your CTR is too high", which I *personally* don't get, but since I've never before meddled with ads, well, could be standard practise, whatever. No quantification of the acceptable CTR, but no accusation of fraud on my part, either.

PM'd him back, we'll see how that goes.

This matter has been discussed in PM.

I really don't know whether or not all of these people have genuine gripes or not. I'm not taking sides, but I would like to aide in Andrew's defense at least a little bit.

For the time that I had BA word ads in my forum I did receive payment. Not only that, but I even clicked on the ad once just to make sure it worked and whether or not it popped up in a new tab or not. And I was not slapped with fraudulent CTR.

Clicking the ads to test them or if there is genuine interest is fine.  We are more concerned with automated clicks or a pattern of unusual spikes which is easy to spot.

Future versions of the site will have graphs for all partners so that this can be seen more easily.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: ingrownpocket on June 05, 2012, 03:38:50 PM
Can someone answer me please?


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Stephen Gornick on June 06, 2012, 03:21:49 AM
Is there any option for a publisher so that the statistics are not public?  I maybe am less concerned about revenues as a whole (determined from the bitcoin address in the ad code) being public, but more so the Impressions, Clicks, CTR, and RPM that shows in the "Partner Statistics". 

 - http://bitcoinadvertisers.com/partnerstat.php?p=[bitcoin address used in publisher's ad code]

Without having an account, there's no easy way to protect this I suppose.  So to offer this would probably involve me associating an e-mail address and password, so that viewing the partner statistics would require the password.  (and the e-mail to be able to recover from a lost password situation).  And that probably adds complexity you were not looking towards having.  So I'm not sure what you could to do to restrict access to this statistics report.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: 2weiX on June 06, 2012, 09:55:10 AM
well if not SCAM, its highly dubious to promise a money making monster, not paying up and hiding behind unpublished terms and rules as well as disregarding those rules when benefitting the proprietor.

removed almost all ads from my pages.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: giantdragon on June 06, 2012, 02:34:59 PM
removed almost all ads from my pages.
I did the same immediately after have read about non-payments.

BTW, I just don't understand why so many people keep BitcoinAdvertisers banners on their pages, knowing that balance can be wiped out at any moment!


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: BitcoinAdvertisers.com on June 06, 2012, 04:58:59 PM
well if not SCAM, its highly dubious to promise a money making monster, not paying up and hiding behind unpublished terms and rules as well as disregarding those rules when benefitting the proprietor.

removed almost all ads from my pages.

We are sorry you are unhappy with your BitcoinAdvertisers.com experience, please have a nice day.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: payb.tc on June 07, 2012, 01:07:50 AM
I just don't understand why so many people keep BitcoinAdvertisers banners on their pages, knowing that balance can be wiped out at any moment!

sounds like paypal :D


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: 2weiX on June 07, 2012, 07:49:13 AM
well if not SCAM, its highly dubious to promise a money making monster, not paying up and hiding behind unpublished terms and rules as well as disregarding those rules when benefitting the proprietor.

removed almost all ads from my pages.

We are sorry you are unhappy with your BitcoinAdvertisers.com experience, please have a nice day.


Well you're unhappy, but you aint doin shit about it.

This is exactly the dickhead attitude towards customers that will drive people away.
Maybe hire someone sociable to do your support?

I clearly described my annoyance with your line of argument via PM.
I clearly described the double standard therein.
Spelt it out for you.

And then you bid me farewell with a sorry? That's pretty sad.

I am NOT saying you are running a scam, but you ARE doing everything you can to drive away your source of income - people that BUY ads and people that RUN ads. I used to be both - now I'm neither (well, I do run 10 or so to get my CTR lower). And don't you dare clear my account - if I come back in two months and my .X BTC isn't there, I'll be not as diplomatic.




Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Matoking on June 10, 2012, 01:33:41 PM
Am I really the only one who is getting paid regularly at the moment?

Andrew really needs to stop treating publishers like dirt and start acting professionally. It's as if he's randomly allowing certain people to be paid while outright ignoring other people.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: TheBitMan on June 11, 2012, 01:12:55 AM
Major redesign of the site has been completed:

http://bitcoinadvertisers.com/

This is it for short term updates of the site, long term will plan includes a client login and graphs.
nice!


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: senbonzakura on June 11, 2012, 02:08:50 AM
nice i got my payment , better than what i was getting at Operation Fabulous

nice layout on site too

I hope you fixed the gambling ad problem


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Bro on June 11, 2012, 10:20:32 AM
I got payed too.

unrelated:

on the partnerstat page, in the payment log, the displayed mBTC amount is wrong by 10x,  (1mBTC = 0.001 BTC)

http://www.bitcoinadvertisers.com/partnerstat.php?p=

also the number of payouts doesn't correspond with reality


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: coga on June 13, 2012, 06:23:31 PM
Andrew, great service. One thing that bothers me is that there are folks that generate phony clicks. Got a click from bitcoindebit-dot-net, and decided to look - what the site is like. Here's what I saw (http://vvcap.net/db/_iUSyDvQzpLjN-Fcdwgg.htp). Obviously, nobody human visits this site. There's nothing in it. It just displays ads and someone clicks on them. Clearly scam.

UPDATE: the domain owner contacted me and apparently there is some actual traffic on the web site. Not clear who actually visits it, since there is no content, but oh well. It would be helpful if there could be some way to identify the sites with actual (potentially) interested visitor


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: payb.tc on June 13, 2012, 11:14:57 PM
Andrew, great service. One thing that bothers me is that there are folks that generate phony clicks. Got a click from bitcoindebit-dot-net, and decided to look - what the site is like. Here's what I saw (http://vvcap.net/db/_iUSyDvQzpLjN-Fcdwgg.htp). Obviously, nobody human visits this site. There's nothing in it. It just displays ads and someone clicks on them. Clearly scam.

UPDATE: the domain owner contacted me and apparently there is some actual traffic on the web site. Not clear who actually visits it, since there is no content, but oh well. It would be helpful if there could be some way to identify the sites with actual (potentially) interested visitor

lots of placeholder/unused domains have nothing more than advertisements, yet still get a lot of human traffic.

it's called 'parking'.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: SierraDooDah on June 16, 2012, 08:27:48 AM
Andrew:

I'm having trouble getting an image ad started. I have confirmed the size is correct (461 x 60).  When I click to the next step it just opens a page and says ERROR.

Sierra


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: SierraDooDah on June 19, 2012, 03:17:02 AM
So, I got the ad upload to work and made payment ... however, the ad does not appear to be running and nobody is reponding to the support ticket trying to verify that the upload worked.

I'm beginning to think that the links on here relating to Bitcoinadvertisers being a scam may be true, which would be very unfortunate.

If Andrew or anyone else from the company would respond it would be greatly appreciated. Otherwise, please return the 3 BTC payment.

Thanks,

Sierra


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: www.optioncentre.com on June 23, 2012, 08:15:56 AM
Seriously considered forming a partnership but-:
After reading about the many issues with your scheme, i have decided not to get involved.

- OptionCentre


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: TheBitMan on June 24, 2012, 10:49:54 PM
This site had the most potential of all advertising sites. But I have not been paid out in a long time. I do not believe it's a scam but I do believe there is some type of problem with the system. I am removing the ads from my site.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: ingrownpocket on July 07, 2012, 11:27:06 AM
http://www.bitcoinadvertisers.com/partnerstat.php?p=1EZAgDQZcYBoTsYrSEm17r9cHgcA26mH7H (http://www.bitcoinadvertisers.com/partnerstat.php?p=1EZAgDQZcYBoTsYrSEm17r9cHgcA26mH7H)

http://www.bitcoinadvertisers.com/partnerstat.php?p=13jtB3VsnH8gM1ujiTw5LPvJEhKoFHiuYn (http://www.bitcoinadvertisers.com/partnerstat.php?p=13jtB3VsnH8gM1ujiTw5LPvJEhKoFHiuYn)

http://www.bitcoinadvertisers.com/partnerstat.php?p=1JLYihaNhtTZ78sJgBscbWq27j126mcWKU (http://www.bitcoinadvertisers.com/partnerstat.php?p=1JLYihaNhtTZ78sJgBscbWq27j126mcWKU)

I think it's time to correct that 'Impressions' bug...

Just found out that my old addresses are now bitcoinadvertisers.com partner accounts.

Ban users for no reason
Change partner
Payout
???
Profit

EDIT:
Probably the same happened with all this partner accounts:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=83328.msg1010246#msg1010246 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=83328.msg1010246#msg1010246)


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: giantdragon on July 09, 2012, 04:45:48 PM
I see a lot of junk clicks on the BitcoinAdvertisers. Some examples:

http://www.bitcoinadvertising.com/advstat.php?id=4ff844dc7c17a
http://www.bitcoinadvertising.com/advstat.php?id=4ffa7addc3269


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: paraipan on July 10, 2012, 10:27:01 PM
Hi Andrew, we like your ad service and we've been using it for the past month. The thing is we have to deal with allot of complaints from Rugatu's users about our ssl certificate being expired or having other issues, which is not the real problem but serving insecure content at the same time with the secured one.

The only thing we serve insecurely is your service ads, so if I may ask, do you have plans on serving them over https (ssl)?


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: paraipan on July 11, 2012, 02:38:06 PM
bump, you there monster?  ::)


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: RandomQ on July 12, 2012, 10:07:37 PM
I think i might have found a browser compatibility issue with your ads, they don't work with chrome mobile. they display but don't load when clicked on.

Google chrome mobile version 19.0.1084.60 on IOS5

I reported this to the google chrome mobile dev team I just wanted to point this out since chrome mobile on ios seem to becoming very popular since it was released.










Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: RandomQ on July 12, 2012, 10:25:39 PM
I just found another error or possible the same error as above.

You might want to put a script to check when placing ads that the url used is a valid format or that the url loads up a page.

I found an ad with "http//https//" + "site url" and this isn't a valid url and throws an error saying invalid url.

I have notified the owner of the ad about the problem.

I have verified the problem with chrome on windows and safari on IOS.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: BitcoinAdvertisers.com on July 13, 2012, 03:03:28 AM
Thanks RandomQ, I've reviewed a bunch of the ads and cleaned up a couple things. 

As to SSL support, we are researching a solution to supporting that but unfortunately it is a bit of a ways off at the moment.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: paraipan on July 13, 2012, 10:28:26 AM
Thanks RandomQ, I've reviewed a bunch of the ads and cleaned up a couple things. 

As to SSL support, we are researching a solution to supporting that but unfortunately it is a bit of a ways off at the moment.

Thanks for looking into it, if you need some sysadmin assistance setting up the whole thing just send me a pm and I would gladly cover the expenses of our expert to have you rolling as soon as possible. You can get a free 1 year certificate on http://cert.startcom.org, or cheap one with basic features on godaddy. Cheers


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: Maged on July 13, 2012, 01:50:05 PM
I found an ad with "http//https//" + "site url" and this isn't a valid url and throws an error saying invalid url.
There's no manual review of ads before they're placed? That's BEYOND dangerous.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: paraipan on July 13, 2012, 01:59:00 PM
I found an ad with "http//https//" + "site url" and this isn't a valid url and throws an error saying invalid url.
There's no manual review of ads before they're placed? That's BEYOND dangerous.

Woot, didn't know that  :-X


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: snoleo on July 30, 2012, 10:04:24 AM
when I visit the website from home, it show 403 error.....
And when I go to some other place to go internet, it went well.

And some of my friends confirm that they encounter the 403 error too.

http://btc123.com/TmP/bitcoinadvertisers_403.png

http://btc123.com/TmP/bitcoinadvertising_403.png

Does someone encountered the same problem? Is the problem related to my home ADSL network (and some of my friends') or the problem related to the bitcoinadvertisers website?



Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: paraipan on July 30, 2012, 12:35:38 PM
when I visit the website from home, it show 403 error.....
And when I go to some other place to go internet, it went well.

And some of my friends confirm that they encounter the 403 error too.

http://btc123.com/TmP/bitcoinadvertisers_403.png

http://btc123.com/TmP/bitcoinadvertising_403.png

Does someone encountered the same problem? Is the problem related to my home ADSL network (and some of my friends') or the problem related to the bitcoinadvertisers website?



The site went down and your ISP's inline caching proxy still has the old version, it will fix by itself just give it some time. Guessing here.


@BitcoinAdvertisers.com hey, you guys still develop the platform?

Some requests include: review of the ads by an operator and ad serving over SSL


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: RandomQ on July 31, 2012, 02:59:36 AM
Found another ad with an incorrect URL. I have notified the AD owner.

Havelock Investments Ad

"HTTPS // "

Will cause the ad to display an error page and register the click for payment


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: paraipan on August 02, 2012, 01:46:16 PM
Sent 0.50btc for making an ad, and the page doesn't say the payment has been received after 30 minutes and 2 confirms

http://blockchain.info/tx-index/14318357/2b2ea8dc06495e3e47712ed53336aa3cb55d9772927ec929bb82d8e1b8982d99

http://i.imgur.com/k8iyX.png

edit: Can't find the ad in the list either


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: ingrownpocket on August 02, 2012, 02:29:58 PM
Sent 0.50btc for making an ad, and the page doesn't say the payment has been received after 30 minutes and 2 confirms

http://blockchain.info/tx-index/14318357/2b2ea8dc06495e3e47712ed53336aa3cb55d9772927ec929bb82d8e1b8982d99

http://i.imgur.com/k8iyX.png (http://i.imgur.com/k8iyX.png)

edit: Can't find the ad in the list either
Why do you even use this crap?


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: gbl08ma on August 02, 2012, 02:39:55 PM
They have always sounded very fishy to me... plus, now they've created bad reputation on the websites with the Unity theme from Bootswatch.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: paraipan on August 02, 2012, 02:58:41 PM
Sent 0.50btc for making an ad, and the page doesn't say the payment has been received after 30 minutes and 2 confirms

http://blockchain.info/tx-index/14318357/2b2ea8dc06495e3e47712ed53336aa3cb55d9772927ec929bb82d8e1b8982d99

http://i.imgur.com/k8iyX.png (http://i.imgur.com/k8iyX.png)

edit: Can't find the ad in the list either
Why do you even use this crap?

Dunno, guess I wanted to give them the benefit of the doubt...


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: LuaKT on August 02, 2012, 05:57:39 PM
Might as well try chase this up.

I had ads on my site for a while and got these (http://bitcoinadvertising.com/partnerstat.php?p=1Ejt2Scg8To5J6EpKGuwwHycw8MgPnNYWd) stats but never got paid.

Why?

I've since switched to AnonymousAds which seem to be far more reliable and are actually paying out.. I'd recommend others do the same.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: ingrownpocket on August 02, 2012, 06:21:48 PM
Might as well try chase this up.

I had ads on my site for a while and got these (http://bitcoinadvertising.com/partnerstat.php?p=1Ejt2Scg8To5J6EpKGuwwHycw8MgPnNYWd) stats but never got paid.

Why?

I've since switched to AnonymousAds which seem to be far more reliable and are actually paying out.. I'd recommend others do the same.
https://bitcointalk.org/?topic=83328 (https://bitcointalk.org/?topic=83328)


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: paraipan on August 03, 2012, 02:35:48 AM
Might as well try chase this up.

I had ads on my site for a while and got these (http://bitcoinadvertising.com/partnerstat.php?p=1Ejt2Scg8To5J6EpKGuwwHycw8MgPnNYWd) stats but never got paid.

Why?

I've since switched to AnonymousAds which seem to be far more reliable and are actually paying out.. I'd recommend others do the same.

Looked into our stats (http://bitcoinadvertising.com/partnerstat.php?p=1MBePztEETywywgvzdSqHn4cayV4AMnBAr) and it seems like we have a pending balance of 0.32655 BTC, hope we get that paid


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: paraipan on August 03, 2012, 04:09:28 AM
...

My issue was promptly solved, thanks. Btw, I was told the payouts will be delayed because of bitcoin daemon downloading the blockchain.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: piuk on August 19, 2012, 01:19:58 PM
I sent 0.7 BTC for test ad to http://blockchain.info/address/1Nnaq8L75yE3MgAkxz8A1DZtYtDWtzaWJy however the payment was never acknowledged and the ad doesn't seem to have been shown. Thanks.

http://i.imgur.com/icIGD.png


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: thaayb on September 05, 2012, 06:18:46 AM
Why do people still usee this??
There are so many threats about this being scam.....

I got scammed too.Even wrote a support Ticket without any response.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: DOH! on September 06, 2012, 05:04:10 AM
Why do people still usee this??
There are so many threats about this being scam.....

I got scammed too.Even wrote a support Ticket without any response.

His bitjack21 site is a scam also.... just fyi.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: phelix on September 11, 2012, 07:55:44 PM
anyone got payed? lately?


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: SgtSpike on September 11, 2012, 07:56:12 PM
More importantly, why hasn't someone written up a thread to give him the scammer tag?


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: DOH! on September 11, 2012, 08:08:35 PM
More importantly, why hasn't someone written up a thread to give him the scammer tag?

Go check the scam subforum, there's three of them.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: DOH! on September 12, 2012, 01:27:06 AM
i got paid on 30 aug

according to payment log there should have been new payments on 11/9/12

also i havent received reply yet on the gambling ads problem i had

sent many pm's no answer

Please repost this info on his scammer thread. Thanks.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: RandomQ on September 20, 2012, 07:35:48 AM
I just want to give a heads up.

Looks like someone is running an ad for illegal drugs is there an option to block this.

Also you might wanna look thru your current websites running your ads.

It appears to be a porn site that appears to be hosting child porn and its not running a "18 USC 2257" disclaimer that 99% of normal porn sites use.
I have reported the site for review to the NCMEC and the websites Host provider.


Title: Re: Announcing BitcoinAdvertisers.com THE MONEY MAKING MONSTER!
Post by: giantdragon on September 20, 2012, 01:39:52 PM
I have reported the site for review to the NCMEC and the websites Host provider.
It seems that hoster already have taken measures! This SCAM not available anymore!

On their Stats (http://www.bitcoinadvertising.com/stats.php) page last payment was made about 4 days ago, so it seems that Andrew Bitcoiner plan to finally grab its publishers' Bitcoins at maximum as he can and close BitcoinAdvertisers.