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Title: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: bitlizard on April 29, 2012, 10:58:08 PM
http://www.reddit.com/r/GirlsGoneBitcoin/comments/syh3p/cam4btc_the_first_bitcoin_camming_site_no_fees/


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: bitlizard on April 29, 2012, 11:07:34 PM
I have been on the site thrice, one time there was no one on it at all and the other 2 times it was basically an internet video chat room with a bunch of bitcoin dudes. hilarity ensued both times. soon there is sure to be actual girls on the site and then it should get really interesting.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: rjk on April 29, 2012, 11:22:59 PM
http://i.imgur.com/vNj3S.png

EDIT: False alarm.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: evoorhees on April 29, 2012, 11:32:19 PM
YES!!! Someone finally made a cam site!!

Still buggy, and needs work, but I already saw boobs there.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: bitlizard on April 29, 2012, 11:34:56 PM
As did I


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: phorensic on April 30, 2012, 12:07:14 AM
Woohoo!


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on April 30, 2012, 12:19:01 AM
I'm going to check it out down. Hope there's girls with zits.

~Cackling Bear~

Edit: No joy! Nobody on. No girls with zits. So sad! Anybody seen my socks?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: stick_theman on April 30, 2012, 02:42:14 AM
lmao @ you guys' responses. 


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: bitlizard on April 30, 2012, 03:21:05 AM
I'm going to check it out down. Hope there's girls with zits.

~Cackling Bear~

Edit: No joy! Nobody on. No girls with zits. So sad! Anybody seen my socks?


you scared everyone away


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Phinnaeus Gage on April 30, 2012, 03:26:05 AM
I'm going to check it out down. Hope there's girls with zits.

~Cackling Bear~

Edit: No joy! Nobody on. No girls with zits. So sad! Anybody seen my socks?


you scared everyone away

I don't think so! It seems one of the videos is also on YouTube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1cqhnj--GY


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 01, 2012, 05:35:09 PM
Lol totally missed this topic. For a pointer to my own thread about www.cam4btc.com https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=78517.0

I registered the .com domain name to stop virus scanners from listing it as suspicious merely due to the co.cc domain name. Also I have added some fixes that greatly improve stability. Please report any further issues :)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: evoorhees on May 01, 2012, 05:58:54 PM
Lol totally missed this topic. For a pointer to my own thread about www.cam4btc.com https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=78517.0

I registered the .com domain name to stop virus scanners from listing it as suspicious merely due to the co.cc domain name. Also I have added some fixes that greatly improve stability. Please report any further issues :)

Why would you ever buy a .co.cc name when the .com is available? :)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 01, 2012, 06:18:03 PM
.co.cc are free  ;D

Anyways there is a naked girl on the right now. Come check it out!


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: phorensic on May 01, 2012, 06:22:40 PM
Dammit!  I can't load the site!  FRAPS that shit!


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: rjk on May 01, 2012, 06:24:22 PM
.co.cc are free  ;D

Anyways there is a naked girl on the right now. Come check it out!
Pity you can't broadcast and watch at the same time. I've been streaming some video, but I can't see any other action at the same time.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 01, 2012, 06:24:34 PM
She left again. Yesterday there were loads of guys waiting for a girl, now there was a girl and no guys. I think I need to add a scheduling feature :)

Anyways: why can't you load the site?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: BitcoinBug on May 01, 2012, 06:26:45 PM
Dammit!  I can't load the site!  FRAPS that shit!

I had the same problem. Found the correct ip using dig and put this in hosts file:
31.170.162.127 www.cam4btc.com

I have no idea why it's not resolving in browser though...


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: BitcoinBug on May 01, 2012, 06:28:49 PM
She left again. Yesterday there were loads of guys waiting for a girl, now there was a girl and no guys. I think I need to add a scheduling feature :)

Scheduling would be nice. Or maybe subscription for email notification when a model comes online.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: evoorhees on May 01, 2012, 06:30:16 PM
Or maybe subscription for email notification when a model comes online.

BINGO! Integrate immediately this feature :)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 01, 2012, 06:41:27 PM
Come visit live show! www.cam4btc.com, login and click Sheryl.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: rjk on May 01, 2012, 06:47:08 PM
Sooo, can we change the video quality? I have a 15mbps fiber upload here, no reason to have it stuck on low.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: farfiman on May 01, 2012, 06:58:55 PM

eset blocks all sites ending in cc
I alerted them of one site like that that i used and they put it in the whitelist


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: rjk on May 01, 2012, 07:03:02 PM
http://i.imgur.com/vNj3S.png

eset blocks all sites ending in cc
I alerted them of one site like that that i used and they put it in the whitelist
Well that's pretty lame. I guess I haven't run into any .co.cc sites before, so I didn't know that.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 01, 2012, 07:17:16 PM
Yes I'll make that configurable, atm it is hardcoded at 30KB/s @24 frames per second. I'm thinking about lowering the frame-rate for the default quality setting.

@farfiman that's why I registered the cams4btc.com domain name :)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Jan on May 01, 2012, 07:18:54 PM
Wouldn't load on my iDevice because of flash. Now doesn't load at all. Overloaded?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 01, 2012, 07:35:48 PM
I doubt it only 5 people only next to the model (and only me and another guy on the models stream). Could you try again?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: stick_theman on May 01, 2012, 07:37:20 PM
Sa-weet!!!  Saw two titties.  I'm laughing my ass off.  The power of bitcoins.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: stick_theman on May 01, 2012, 07:41:36 PM
Can we get the Queen of Bitcoin (BTC tat on her coochie) on the camming site?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Jan on May 01, 2012, 08:00:25 PM
I doubt it only 5 people only next to the model (and only me and another guy on the models stream). Could you try again?
Now it loads... the 'You need flash' page. I pledge 5 BTC spending on the girls once i can watch them on my iDevice.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: adamstgBit on May 01, 2012, 09:36:00 PM
Sa-weet!!!  Saw two titties.  I'm laughing my ass off.  The power of bitcoins.

until theirs boobs 24/7...

if we could see a tentative schedule, that might help





Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: phorensic on May 02, 2012, 12:54:12 AM
Can we get the Queen of Bitcoin (BTC tat on her coochie) on the camming site?
Oh I forgot about her!  What has she been doing?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 02, 2012, 12:57:21 PM
Version 0.5 is out

I added this request:

We need to have a way to open or join a room via URL.

I would like to be able to use this as a live video support channel like "Click here for help with your Bitcoin client".

There are a million different ways to use this kind of service, with Bitcoin, in a non-sexual way. We just need to put our thinking caps on.

Just type in the url: http://www.cam4btc.com/index.html?channel=CHANNELNAME and after the user logs in for the first time it will automatically connect with that channel if it exists

Further additions in v0.5:

* I found out the server is disconnecting a lot. I need to use another server but in the meantime I made an automatic reconnect function. It will thrownotification message to inform the user
* I fixed the incorrect number of viewers and incorrect join/leave messages
* Quality control for the broadcaster. Note that you can only change those when you are not broadcasting (click stop broadcasting)

As always hit control+f5 and make sure you are using version 0.5 Enjoy :)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: check_status on May 02, 2012, 07:26:40 PM
Are you trying to replicte MyFreeCams?
@Phinaeus  There are a lot of girls over there, your bound to find someone with zits.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: MaxSan on May 02, 2012, 08:09:03 PM
Its built in Flex that can 100% be ported to an apple device very easy btw. for whoever was on about it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 02, 2012, 09:43:08 PM
Are you trying to replicte MyFreeCams?
@Phinaeus  There are a lot of girls over there, your bound to find someone with zits.

Hadn't heard of that site before I created the site. They use a central server however whereas this is totally peer to peer for audio/video distribution. Further this is totally anonymous plus pretty lightweight to tip with Bitcoin (+ cost efficient for small amounts)

Its built in Flex that can 100% be ported to an apple device very easy btw. for whoever was on about it.

Yes it can. It already works on Macs but I need to repack the program as a standalone program for IPhone/IPAd. I need to check how to distribute that though (plus I cannot test it since I don't own anything Apple related).


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Red Emerald on May 02, 2012, 09:51:10 PM
Are you trying to replicte MyFreeCams?
@Phinaeus  There are a lot of girls over there, your bound to find someone with zits.

Getting myfreecams to accept bitcoin would be awesome. But for now :) (http://bitcoin-otc.com/vieworder.php?id=7874)


Hadn't heard of that site before I created the site. They use a central server however whereas this is totally peer to peer for audio/video distribution. Further this is totally anonymous

Totally anonymous? If this is using p2p for the distribution, can't I tell who my peers are (and therefore who is watching the same cam) by IP?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 02, 2012, 10:05:58 PM
Then get the girls to come to www.cam4btc.com! :P

Regarding anonymity: IP addresses are hidden by a layer of abstraction. Even in code I have no access to ip address, just ids which are larges hashes.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Red Emerald on May 02, 2012, 10:07:35 PM
Then get the girls to come to www.cam4btc.com! :P

Regarding anonymity: IP addresses are hidden by a layer of abstraction. Even in code I have no access to ip address, just ids which are larges hashes.
If I watch my network traffic, I won't see the IPs that I'm sending to and receiving from? Are you sure about that? That sounds impossible without something like Tor.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 02, 2012, 10:26:16 PM
I have been looking for you and I can't tell for sure. What I do know for sure is that the system uses swarming. So you don't send the data to all the peers you are streaming to but only a subset that send it on.

What I also meant with anonymity was the fact that you don't have to sign up, verify your information etcetera which I presume a lot of these server side solution will ask of you (because you use server side resources by streaming).


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 02, 2012, 11:14:51 PM
BTW check this article out: http://mycamgirl.net/behind-the-scenes/post/top-20-highest-tips-on-myfreecams

Quote
But other girls also got huge tips. So, I decided to do a research to find out who are those luck girls. Surprisingly, I found out that many girls have got huge amounts and quickly I realized that my idea of high tip (around 5,000 – 10,000) is actually a normal tip for many girls. Also a surprise was the anonymous tips with high amount. Mellanny, for example, got 68,000 tokens from an anonymous member.

For those who don’t know, depending on how the member buys the tokens, the price may vary from $0.08 to $0.10 per token. However, the girls always get $0.05 per token. Which means that, for example, the 260,000 token tip that Mila got, the member paid around $20,000 or $26,000 (depending on how he paid for it) and she got $13,000. The new biggest tip (467,040), the member paid between $46,704 and $37,363 and it is equal to $23,352 to the model.

So the site takes between 35% and 50% of the tips. With a peer to peer system (low server requirements) and Bitcoin as payment method a site can be very profitable with much lower fees (or actually no fees if ads +donations are enough).

BTW that are some huge as tips. $35k-$45k is a single go is the record. :P


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: HostFat on May 02, 2012, 11:25:46 PM
Anyway, your website seems down 99% of the times that I try to give a look :|


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: rjk on May 02, 2012, 11:30:43 PM
Anyway, your website seems down 99% of the times that I try to give a look :|
Yeah the DNS has issues. From some servers/locations the lookup works, but from others it doesn't.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Red Emerald on May 02, 2012, 11:30:57 PM
BTW check this article out: http://mycamgirl.net/behind-the-scenes/post/top-20-highest-tips-on-myfreecams
I was really hoping for more exciting snapshots :P


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: FreeMoney on May 03, 2012, 12:38:42 AM
BTW check this article out: http://mycamgirl.net/behind-the-scenes/post/top-20-highest-tips-on-myfreecams
I was really hoping for more exciting snapshots :P

Quote
Which means that, for example, the 260,000 token tip that Mila got, the member paid around $20,000 or $26,000 (depending on how he paid for it) and she got $13,000

Sweet Jesus that is some fee.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: HostFat on May 03, 2012, 12:47:44 AM
I think that integrating your service with something like dailybitcoins/coinad will help a lot.
This because people will come to your website "everyday" just to take their free 0.001 bitcoin!
So they will see everytime all the opened webcam-channels :)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: finway on May 03, 2012, 02:32:20 AM
What a wonderful site!


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: FreeMoney on May 03, 2012, 04:14:01 AM
I think that integrating your service with something like dailybitcoins/coinad will help a lot.
This because people will come to your website "everyday" just to take their free 0.001 bitcoin!
So they will see everytime all the opened webcam-channels :)

That is smart.

Seals would sponsor that for a while if you want.

Man in general that is a genius idea. For anything that has variable coolness and you need people to check back frequently just make sure they know there will be free bitcoins.

I suppose I kind of did this at Seals. In the beginning of course there were no games. Having a freeroll every hour kept people coming anyway.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: HostFat on May 03, 2012, 05:32:44 AM
Seals would sponsor that for a while if you want.
Hmmm, can you make something like a widged that you can enable/disable when ever you want?
People can come to you ( your website ) and ask for sponsoring.
Than you will give the code to embed the widget on their site where ever they want.

The widget will be something like this, example:

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Take your free 0.001 Bitcoin, insert here your address: [     ]
[captcha] [button send]
Sponsored by sealswithclubs (https://sealswithclubs.eu/)!
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: FreeMoney on May 03, 2012, 06:13:48 AM
Seals would sponsor that for a while if you want.
Hmmm, can you make something like a widged that you can enable/disable when ever you want?
People can come to you ( your website ) and ask for sponsoring.
Than you will give the code to embed the widget on their site where ever they want.

The widget will be something like this, example:

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Take your free 0.001 Bitcoin, insert here your address: [     ]
[captcha] [button send]
Sponsored by sealswithclubs (https://sealswithclubs.eu/)!
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hmm, faucet in a box.

Could make it so that many people can sponsor, just associate an address to sponsor in the wallet that pays out, then show the sponsor who is actually giving the millie. Rule could be to show the sponsor who has the most credit and deduct the credit from their amount while they are showing. The largest sponsor will show until they are equal to the second largest sponsor and it'll start switching between until there it gets down to the third then it would switch between the three and so on.

Back on topic, someone should stream these videos: http://bitcoinmedia.com/patronage-bitcoin-and-scientific-music-my-story/


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 03, 2012, 06:25:50 PM
New version available: 0.6.1 see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=78517.20 for details. Currently streaming porn at Max quality, 640x320 8fps let me know how it looks.

Regarding the faucet, thanks for thinking with me :)  I think it is a good idea, but is there any readily made software package? Is it just a form that sores the address? How would I built a large multiparty Bitcoin transaction of all these tiny numbers? And finally, FreeMoney, do you have that widget available you guys were talking about? :)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: rjk on May 03, 2012, 06:51:22 PM
Currently streaming porn at Max quality, 640x320 8fps let me know how it looks.
I guess no one liked cartoons, oh well. Not one bitcent after streaming almost 120 episodes.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: hazek on May 03, 2012, 07:21:46 PM
Currently streaming porn at Max quality, 640x320 8fps let me know how it looks.

Btw I think you need to find a way to enable volume adjusting..


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: FreeMoney on May 03, 2012, 07:51:54 PM
New version available: 0.6.1 see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=78517.20 for details. Currently streaming porn at Max quality, 640x320 8fps let me know how it looks.

Regarding the faucet, thanks for thinking with me :)  I think it is a good idea, but is there any readily made software package? Is it just a form that sores the address? How would I built a large multiparty Bitcoin transaction of all these tiny numbers? And finally, FreeMoney, do you have that widget available you guys were talking about? :)

No, I have nothing. We're just scheming.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 03, 2012, 08:50:42 PM
Ok, I'll look into this if I have the time. I'll probably just write it to a list and then do a manual sendmany if I get around to doing this (because this would require fewer testing).

Does anyone know the exact format for sendmany on the commandline? Is it:

sendmany accountOne {"Bitcoinaddress1":"0.001", "Bitcoinaddress2":"0.001", "Bitcoinaddress3":"0.001"}


Also, I have done some testing with a couple of users and the video quality has been greatly improved in v0.6.2 which has just been released.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: FreeMoney on May 03, 2012, 09:22:26 PM
Ok, I'll look into this if I have the time. I'll probably just write it to a list and then do a manual sendmany if I get around to doing this (because this would require fewer testing).

Does anyone know the exact format for sendmany on the commandline? Is it:

sendmany accountOne {"Bitcoinaddress1":"0.001", "Bitcoinaddress2":"0.001", "Bitcoinaddress3":"0.001"}


Also, I have done some testing with a couple of users and the video quality has been greatly improved in v0.6.2 which has just been released.

Nice, if you get it up I'll give at least 10BTC to hand out. I think this is double nice because people can send the millies to performers too.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 04, 2012, 08:14:07 PM
Thanks a lot fro the offer. I'll see if I can manage :)

Also: V0.7 out with full screen mode!  ;D


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Foxpup on May 05, 2012, 04:57:32 AM
I can't get it to work. When I enter my name and click Watch nothing happens. The FAQ says it's supposed to ask me to enable P2P assisted networking, but it doesn't. When I go into the Global Settings Manager, all the options for P2P assisted networking are disabled except for "Disable P2P uplink for all", which is unchecked. What am I doing wrong? I'm using Flash Player 11.2.202.235.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: istar on May 05, 2012, 08:04:12 AM
Can a girl be on both sites at the same time?
That would make a transition easier.

Also if it is very anonymous like you say, you should advertise that as a advantage.




Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 05, 2012, 10:41:11 AM
I can't get it to work. When I enter my name and click Watch nothing happens. The FAQ says it's supposed to ask me to enable P2P assisted networking, but it doesn't. When I go into the Global Settings Manager, all the options for P2P assisted networking are disabled except for "Disable P2P uplink for all", which is unchecked. What am I doing wrong? I'm using Flash Player 11.2.202.235.

Hi, thanks for the report too bad it isn't working automatically for you. The system is supposed to ask for p2p privileges after you go from the login-screen to the watching/stream list screen. If you don't make it there it means the connection to the server I use to introduce the peers to each other (called a Rendez Vous server). There can be 2 reasons for this:

1) The firewall on your computer, router or corporate network doesn't allow outbound UDP traffic. You can go to this site to get an analysis by adobe of your connectability: http://cc.rtmfp.net/ (post a screenshot if you can't make sense of the analysis yourself)
2) The Rendez Vous server had a accidental hiccup (I am still using a free solution for this, this will change as the site gets more popular). Please try again and see if it works.

Also, in the login screen it used to trow a popup telling the user it failed top connect. I changed that to not do this this but instead attempt to reconnect on every failed attempt (so basically indefinitely) without giving user feedback. What do you think of this choice? Would you prefer to be notified of this and if so how?

Good luck with getting this to work  :)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 05, 2012, 10:51:27 AM
Can a girl be on both sites at the same time?
That would make a transition easier.

They certainly can! If they use flash player for the other site as well it will work out of the box, just start my site as well. If they use another program for the streaming they'd need a solution such as ManyCam (which I think a lot of cam girls use) because only one program can lock a device (camera/microphone) at the same time. Either way it will work as long as their bandwidth is high enough to support both methods of data transmission.

Also if it is very anonymous like you say, you should advertise that as a advantage.

I was talking to a guy on the site yesterday who said his girl tried to join MFC once but didn't go through with it because she had to give so much personal details to be allowed on the site. Further I agree that it is really anonymous and this is one of the unique selling points of this solution. If you look at my opening post (see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=78517.0 or any of the reddit channels I posted) you see that the very first thing in the list of advantages is * No signup, so complete anonymity. Do you have concrete ideas for me to advertise this more or did you just happen to miss that thread?

Links to the Reddit boards:

http://www.reddit.com/r/deCrypto/comments/sydtt/cam4btc_the_first_bitcoin_camming_site_no_fees/
http://www.reddit.com/r/GirlsGoneBitcoin/comments/syh3p/cam4btc_the_first_bitcoin_camming_site_no_fees/
http://www.reddit.com/r/gonewild/comments/sylmt/cam4btc_the_first_bitcoin_camming_site_no_fees/


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Foxpup on May 05, 2012, 12:28:42 PM
1) The firewall on your computer, router or corporate network doesn't allow outbound UDP traffic. You can go to this site to get an analysis by adobe of your connectability: http://cc.rtmfp.net/ (post a screenshot if you can't make sense of the analysis yourself)
Quote
Knows public IP address of self (no NAT): NO
Public UDP port number same as local UDP port number: YES
Can receive from same IP address, same UDP port number: YES
Can receive from same IP address, different UDP port number: NO
Can receive from different IP address, different UDP port number: NO
Can send to different IP address after server introduction: YES
Source IP address is preserved from original connection: YES
Source UDP port number is preserved from original connection: YES
Everything looks good to me, except for the fact that I'm behind a NAT. Please tell me that doesn't mean I don't get to see boobies. :'(
EDIT: Never mind, it's working now. Rendez Vous server must have gone down temporarily. Also, some way to adjust the quality would be preferable. Right now it's more than what my connection can handle, and decompression errors are a real turn-off. :-\

Also, in the login screen it used to trow a popup telling the user it failed top connect. I changed that to not do this this but instead attempt to reconnect on every failed attempt (so basically indefinitely) without giving user feedback. What do you think of this choice? Would you prefer to be notified of this and if so how?
To be honest, I think it's a stupid choice. It should only attempt to reconnect N number of times before giving up and displaying an error message. Sure, dropped packets might cause it to fail to connect one or two times, but if it keeps failing to connect several times in a row, that's a pretty clear sign that something is seriously wrong and it's never going to connect.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 05, 2012, 01:21:51 PM
It's definitely not the blocking of UDP messages or something. Your cc.rtmfp.net page is exactly the same as mine, so that definitely isn't blocking you from seeing boobies :)

I PM'ed you about what you can do try to help debug this.

I'll change the code to stop trying after 3 reconnects (it times out in 30 seconds,so that would be 1.5 minutes) and report it to the user in the form of an alert box. Thanks for the feedback.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 05, 2012, 07:52:06 PM
Cam4BTC has moved to a new host as riush (member here at Bitcointalk) has generously offered to host both the website and the other server software I need for free until further notice. This should bring stability and allows me to keep the software up-to-date.

I have updated the DNS but this can take up to 48 hours to propagate (it is usually much faster though). Press control+F5 and if you see you are running v0.8 you know you have made the switch.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 11, 2012, 11:37:19 PM
Version 0.9 is out. I added a scheduling mechanism: Broadcasters can schedule shows and both broadcasters and viewers alike can view the schedule. This way people will know when someone will be on in advance and can check back.

I hope this will help with broadcasters and viewers finding each other :)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 12, 2012, 04:21:27 PM
v0.9.1

* Improved audio quality
* Added option music for broadcasters of music. This will increase the audio quality for music

Also, if a broadcaster stops and restarts stream, audio will resume quickly while the video just freezes for a while. After a while (like 30 seconds) it does go o, if you want this to be quicker just go to and leave full screen mode and it will continue immediately. I have not been able to mimic this programmatically yet so I'm working on that :)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: gweedo on May 13, 2012, 01:44:34 AM
http://www.reddit.com/r/deCrypto/comments/tkcug/considering_doing_a_sesh_on_cam4btc_tonight_if/ (http://www.reddit.com/r/deCrypto/comments/tkcug/considering_doing_a_sesh_on_cam4btc_tonight_if/)

if anyone wants in ~1hr 30mins someone will be on http://www.cam4btc.com (http://www.cam4btc.com) come out and support


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 13, 2012, 02:10:13 PM
Yesterday night we had a record of 29 people online at the same time and 2 broadcasts at the same time. I want to thank dino_rawr and ENTerTheDragonfly for performing the broadcasts.
Also thanks to everyone that came to watch.
I wasn't there myself due to it being in the middle of the night in my timezone but I got reports of people that really enjoyed it :)

Note that at 9:00 am hours PST there is a scheduledShow by DarlingLA. Log in to the site to see what time it is in your timezone! :)

* I had a small bug which showed all hours as <12 hours even if it was in the afternoon, thus making it impossible for people to determine whether it was in the morning or afternoon. Fixed in v0.9.2


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Jan on May 13, 2012, 02:53:35 PM
This is awesome. Keep up the good work.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Tuxavant on May 13, 2012, 03:12:38 PM
I was there... rockin job! the girls were very excited to be using the service and judging by the comments, so were the other guys.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Gabi on May 13, 2012, 04:56:46 PM
Awwhhh too bad i missed that!  :o


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 13, 2012, 08:56:40 PM
Thanks for the kind words guys. Really appreciated :)

@Gabi: there are 2 more scheduled shows at the moment. Don't miss'em ;)

Quote
v 0.10 is out with donation address verification. If you enter an address <34 characters I will attempt to resolve the firstbits using BlockChain.info, if you enter a 34 character complete address I will verify it is a correct address. No more making typo's :) [disabling donation addresses altogether is also supported]

This is also preliminary work to being able to show donations being made live in chat. I needed to be sure I was working with valid Bitcoin addresses before I could work on that.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Tuxavant on May 13, 2012, 09:05:40 PM
can you make the bitcoin link display a QR code somehow? sometimes I need to tip with my phone.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Gabi on May 13, 2012, 09:15:38 PM
It's not easy to understand what this means:

http://sadpanda.us/images/960976-TD81E51.png

The DarlingLA show is the 14 may at 19:00 hours?  But 19:00 what? Or it is 19 hours from now?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Jan on May 13, 2012, 09:15:59 PM
can you make the bitcoin link display a QR code somehow? sometimes I need to tip with my phone.
+1


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Tuxavant on May 13, 2012, 09:18:04 PM
It's not easy to understand what this means:
DarlingLA show is the 14 may at 19:00 hours?  But 19:00 what? Or it is 19 hours from now?

It did take me a couple seconds to figure it out, but its days:hours until the show begins.

I suggest an ISO date like "2012-05-14 2100" but a count-down timer is convenient too.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 13, 2012, 09:37:51 PM
Nah it's military time in the timezone your computer is set to. So 19:00 hours on the 14th, which is 7 pm (in your timezone). Looks like you are in my timezone Gabi :)

regarding the QR code I'll look into it. Hopefully it can be done with a lightweight library. I have never used QR codes because I don't own a smartphone so I'll have to figure out what is actually encoded in there first :P

Finally I just added a notification sound in v0.10.1 for every channel join as per request of one of the performers.



Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Tuxavant on May 13, 2012, 09:44:24 PM
I'll have to figure out what is actually encoded in there first :P

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/URI_Scheme#Examples


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 13, 2012, 10:08:49 PM
Announcing: Live show at the moment.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: bitlizard on May 13, 2012, 10:10:54 PM
some young lass from london is showing her 'bits' as I type this


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: evoorhees on May 13, 2012, 10:11:43 PM
but a count-down timer is convenient too.

YES! Count-down timer is the solution.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Tuxavant on May 13, 2012, 10:21:30 PM
some young lass from london is showing her 'bits' as I type this

Well, that was a fake.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 13, 2012, 10:27:43 PM
Yes it is. I am sorry, nothing really I can do about it though except maybe put on a big beware section where I tell people to always ask for verification?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Tuxavant on May 13, 2012, 10:27:46 PM
Ok... next feature is a vote ban for fuckin fakes.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: muyuu on May 14, 2012, 12:01:49 AM
Doesn't work in my ipad.

Kidding, I don't have that shit. Any technical details? is that a proprietary platform?

I connected for a bit. 4 channels: 1 shy girl, 1 gross video loop, 1 dude, 1 couple and it was mostly the shirtless hobo looking dude on cam.

Still, it worked fine.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: meanig on May 14, 2012, 12:05:47 AM
There is a girl on now called Amanda. She is legit, she touched her nose after we asked her to.

For 1 BTC she has promised to do something that will make us blush  ;D


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: giszmo on May 14, 2012, 01:10:07 AM
feature request: link to a channel. if channel is not online, default to lobby.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: gweedo on May 14, 2012, 01:57:41 AM
feature request: link to a channel. if channel is not online, default to lobby.

that is already a feature,
http://cam4btc.com/?channel=CHANNELNAMEHERE
and their is no main lobby js



Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: gweedo on May 14, 2012, 02:24:17 AM
Hi,

I didn't have the chance to see cam4btc service yet because I'm on a tablet that has no flash support, but I would like to suggest a feature:

1- I think should have an option where lovers add a preview like photos and schedule a fuck.
2- The lovers will only fuck if they receive 100% of bitcoins previously established
3- If they don't get the total of bitcoins previously established, the people who sent bitcoins will be refunded.


This goes against everything the creator wachtwoord was aiming for. He wants a complete anonymous and he wanted that all bitcoins to go directly to the person on cam. Plus this service can be used for so much more things than just sex, he just knows that will be a main driver and is embracing it. 


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: giszmo on May 14, 2012, 03:09:44 AM
feature request: link to a channel. if channel is not online, default to lobby.
that is already a feature,
http://cam4btc.com/?channel=CHANNELNAMEHERE
and their is no main lobby js

... almost. Knowing how to somehow forge a link is a cheat. Seeing this link in the browser's address bar or inside the channel is a feature.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: gweedo on May 14, 2012, 03:35:13 AM
feature request: link to a channel. if channel is not online, default to lobby.
that is already a feature,
http://cam4btc.com/?channel=CHANNELNAMEHERE
and their is no main lobby js

... almost. Knowing how to somehow forge a link is a cheat. Seeing this link in the browser's address bar or inside the channel is a feature.

to be honest the creator wants it to be minimalist UI and this is becoming too overwhelming so I think that works fine, and it works so it is a feature LOL


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 14, 2012, 07:48:33 AM
Hi,

I didn't have the chance to see cam4btc service yet because I'm on a tablet that has no flash support, but I would like to suggest a feature:

1- I think should have an option where lovers add a preview like photos and schedule a fuck.
2- The lovers will only fuck if they receive 100% of bitcoins previously established
3- If they don't get the total of bitcoins previously established, the people who sent bitcoins will be refunded.

This goes against everything the creator wachtwoord was aiming for. He wants a complete anonymous and he wanted that all bitcoins to go directly to the person on cam. Plus this service can be used for so much more things than just sex, he just knows that will be a main driver and is embracing it. 

Although this is true, my more exact response would be this (since I think this can be arranged with as much anonymity as is present now):

1) I will add the ability to upload preview pictures, both for live channels and for the scheduled list (separate and completely optional). It's not on top of my to do list though :)
2) Although I don't say I will never do it, at this point I don't want to be an escrow for this automatically (also due to security reasons, right now there are no Bitcoins (private keys) actually residing on the server, I like that :)) you could of course arrange such things among yourselves or do it based on trust.

If I would arrange escrow I would:
1) store a pre-generated set of empty addresses I control on the server
2) When someone needs an escrow address release that for that scheduled Show
3) After the show manually release it to the performers or send it back to where it came from if there was no show

As to still keep all payment external to the server.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 14, 2012, 07:51:04 AM
feature request: link to a channel. if channel is not online, default to lobby.
that is already a feature,
http://cam4btc.com/?channel=CHANNELNAMEHERE
and their is no main lobby js

... almost. Knowing how to somehow forge a link is a cheat. Seeing this link in the browser's address bar or inside the channel is a feature.

to be honest the creator wants it to be minimalist UI and this is becoming too overwhelming so I think that works fine, and it works so it is a feature LOL

While I want the UI to stay minimalistic I also agree this is not the most user friendly feature (it isn't even documented outside of this thread lol). I just added as it was a direct request and I didn't put it in the GUI because this wasn't straightforward and I didn't think regular users would find it extremely valuable (as in other things have higher priority).

Thank you all for the feedback though. Judging on the reports I got about shows things seem be getting off the ground now :)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Gabi on May 14, 2012, 12:04:07 PM
Nah it's military time in the timezone your computer is set to. So 19:00 hours on the 14th, which is 7 pm (in your timezone). Looks like you are in my timezone Gabi :)

regarding the QR code I'll look into it. Hopefully it can be done with a lightweight library. I have never used QR codes because I don't own a smartphone so I'll have to figure out what is actually encoded in there first :P

Finally I just added a notification sound in v0.10.1 for every channel join as per request of one of the performers.


Oh ok

Well my suggestions are
1)remove the space at the : so instead of 19 : 00 have 19:00
2)put the date and the time in the same line, so have like 5/15/2012 19:00 instead of having 5/15/2012 -calendar symbol- 19:00

As it is now the hours looks like a countdown, since it is separated from the date, wich is in his own square


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 14, 2012, 05:02:37 PM
I'll have a look at that thanks for the suggestion :)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 14, 2012, 09:32:36 PM
Doesn't work in my ipad.

Kidding, I don't have that shit. Any technical details? is that a proprietary platform?

I connected for a bit. 4 channels: 1 shy girl, 1 gross video loop, 1 dude, 1 couple and it was mostly the shirtless hobo looking dude on cam.

Still, it worked fine.

Hi I missed this post before. Yes the platform I have build is proprietary.

Thanks for the feedback, I am glad it is working as intended for you :)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: muyuu on May 14, 2012, 10:02:38 PM
Hi I missed this post before. Yes the platform I have build is proprietary.

Thanks for the feedback, I am glad it is working as intended for you :)

It's an interesting project. Thanks for your work, I hope it pays off.

How do you plan to port it to HTML5? If you don't mind sharing some details in private I'd appreciate. I'm currently too busy to help substantially but I'm still curious about the solution. Looking forward to see more :-)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: phorensic on May 14, 2012, 10:13:32 PM
Converting to HTML5 would be a good idea.  It would remove almost all dependencies besides a modern browser.  Youtube is already half HTML5 if you turn it on in your options.  Works great for me.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: muyuu on May 14, 2012, 10:18:05 PM
Converting to HTML5 would be a good idea.  It would remove almost all dependencies besides a modern browser.  Youtube is already half HTML5 if you turn it on in your options.  Works great for me.

Last time I checked websockets were an extremely inferior solution to Flash sockets for P2P (or anything requiring several simultaneous connections). In any case I'd expect it to be challenging.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 14, 2012, 10:18:10 PM
Flash is supported on 99.9% of the systems. HTML5 (especially the cam and microphone interface part) is supported on almost none (I think really none, but not sure what the current state is, I did research ~4 months ago for my work and chose Adobe Flex then as the most suitable technology).  Next to that I doubt HTML5 will natively support peer2peer transferring of content.

I do think HTML5 will win in the end though, really nice standard. Will take at least 2 years though (likely longer).


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 14, 2012, 10:26:50 PM
Didn't want to withhold you guys this graphic. (I have data from before this date just not on statcounter)

http://i48.tinypic.com/2dukr6h.png

Plus there is another show by EntertheDragonFly in an hour :)


edit:

Oh yeah and additionally:

1) Made the notification sound optional
2) Detect when BlockChain.info is down and allow the user to go on without donation address verification if this is the case

I didn't have more time. I got so many ideas for when I do :P

And final edit. I pm'ed muyuu


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: phorensic on May 15, 2012, 05:22:13 AM
Lot of action today on the site.  I would say this website has been a success so far.

Also, the scammer that injected fake video loops and got about $15 worth of BTC was quite entertaining.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: giszmo on May 15, 2012, 05:41:52 PM
Also, the scammer that injected fake video loops and got about $15 worth of BTC was quite entertaining.

A man's praise in his own mouth stinks. ;)

Yes, it was interesting to know how he does it. He streamed snippets of video of a barely moving sleepy girl and had some snippets available to switch to (smile, nod, ...) at a click. He has trouble with sound as that would be harder to loop and he's a he so dubbing his own videos would not be easy.

Taken it's a lot of preparation and requires the guy sitting by makes me believe him when he says it's just for fun.

Only thing that annoys me about this is that I tipped him (I tipped all girls to get their interest although my video is totally broken and I was more fascinated by the site than the girl but I want to see this project take off)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: giszmo on May 15, 2012, 06:02:26 PM
please don't! add a block user function for the performer before you have some scam-alert in place. Fortunately many users bother to warn others about loops but if they can be banned for that, there is a problem.
Sure banning will be needed, too at some point.

Maybe in the meantime write something like "smiling to the camera is no verification. Expect performers to interact with you like greet you. Remember that greeting you in the chat is the easiest thing to script"


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Tomatocage on May 15, 2012, 08:36:02 PM
A man's praise in his own mouth stinks. ;)

Yes, it was interesting to know how he does it. He streamed snippets of video of a barely moving sleepy girl and had some snippets available to switch to (smile, nod, ...) at a click. He has trouble with sound as that would be harder to loop and he's a he so dubbing his own videos would not be easy.

Taken it's a lot of preparation and requires the guy sitting by makes me believe him when he says it's just for fun.

Only thing that annoys me about this is that I tipped him (I tipped all girls to get their interest although my video is totally broken and I was more fascinated by the site than the girl but I want to see this project take off)

It's not hard to do.  I used to do that shit on ChatRoulette a while back... Here's how:

http://www.ehow.com/how_12209816_loop-video-chatroulette.html


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: giszmo on May 15, 2012, 09:06:55 PM
A man's praise in his own mouth stinks. ;)

Yes, it was interesting to know how he does it. He streamed snippets of video of a barely moving sleepy girl and had some snippets available to switch to (smile, nod, ...) at a click. He has trouble with sound as that would be harder to loop and he's a he so dubbing his own videos would not be easy.

Taken it's a lot of preparation and requires the guy sitting by makes me believe him when he says it's just for fun.

Only thing that annoys me about this is that I tipped him (I tipped all girls to get their interest although my video is totally broken and I was more fascinated by the site than the girl but I want to see this project take off)

It's not hard to do.  I used to do that shit on ChatRoulette a while back... Here's how:

http://www.ehow.com/how_12209816_loop-video-chatroulette.html

nah he had material explicitly prepared for that. not just a loop. very static blurry girl and when somebody wanted her to tip her nose or wave he played the respective video seamlessly. 15 vids in total.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: phorensic on May 15, 2012, 09:11:23 PM
Yeah very interactive, he had like a storyboard or something of videos that he could choose to play when somebody asked for something.  The somewhat seamless transition was really cool, it looked like the video cut out or something and boom she was doing what you asked.  It was hilarious.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: BadBear on May 15, 2012, 09:14:29 PM
Well at least he worked for it, sounds like he earned it  ;)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 15, 2012, 10:46:23 PM
And now he has the honour of being the first banned user on cam4btc.com :)

I got home 11 pm from work and just wrote the code to ban him. Please report other wrongdoers from now on and I'll see if they should be banned. (I really hoped this wasn't necessary but I don't like scammers at all :()


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: giszmo on May 16, 2012, 05:33:56 AM
And now he has the honour of being the first banned user on cam4btc.com :)

I got home 11 pm from work and just wrote the code to ban him. Please report other wrongdoers from now on and I'll see if they should be banned. (I really hoped this wasn't necessary but I don't like scammers at all :()

slippery slope warning :) good luck with the banning. It will only get worse though.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Technomage on May 16, 2012, 03:35:56 PM
I think that Bitcoin has HUGE potential in webcam stripping etc. I believe that this could become a big hit.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Tuxavant on May 16, 2012, 03:52:49 PM
I think that Bitcoin has HUGE potential in webcam stripping etc. I believe that this could become a big hit.

I whole heartedly agree.. and combine this with various working salary levels of different countries... it may just be the thing that causes the network effect that Bitcoin needs to explode sooner than later.

For example, I absolutely LOVE Vietnamese women and other ethnicities typical of 3rd world countries. I might lose a LOT of Bitcoin to that genre of adult entertainers. Tipping amount that may seem meager to someone in a first world country to someone in a 3rd world country may be very well accepted. Now all of the sudden independant people in these economically challenged situations have a service to provide to the entire world and Bitcoin is extended where it would not have been. Exchange services start showing up in those locations, traditional businesses start wanting a piece of the global currency, etc..

I'm very excited for this.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: d'aniel on May 16, 2012, 07:02:55 PM
I have some requests that might improve the btc side of cam4btc:
  • URI and QR code support
  • show the amount received by the posted address since the beginning of the broadcast
  • include 0-confirmation sends in this
  • detect and filter double spends from this (can't do anything about finney attacks, but they're tips, so it's probably not a big deal)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: FreeMoney on May 16, 2012, 07:25:26 PM
I have some requests that might improve the btc side of cam4btc:
  • URI and QR code support
  • show the amount received by the posted address since the beginning of the broadcast
  • include 0-confirmation sends in this
  • detect and filter double spends from this (can't do anything about finney attacks, but they're tips, so it's probably not a big deal)


It would be very cool if everyone saw a tip come in realtime. But no worry about double spends here imo.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Gabi on May 16, 2012, 08:24:15 PM
There is a girl now


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Gabi on May 16, 2012, 08:28:09 PM
A beautiful one  :)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: phorensic on May 16, 2012, 08:55:09 PM
Whoah


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 16, 2012, 10:31:35 PM
And now he has the honour of being the first banned user on cam4btc.com :)

I got home 11 pm from work and just wrote the code to ban him. Please report other wrongdoers from now on and I'll see if they should be banned. (I really hoped this wasn't necessary but I don't like scammers at all :()

slippery slope warning :) good luck with the banning. It will only get worse though.

I totally agree. I think in the end a community must evolve which will order content based on appropriateness (I'm not too knowledgeable about Reddit but I think this is what they do). This is too complex to do now (it is not the most valuable to most users right now) so I had left it out completely. Now something happened which caused it to be valuable to ban users (most users are annoyed by a scammer for instance) so I solved with the most simple (and imperfect) solution of just banning the user and playing dictator.

I have no intentions of staying dictator as my ambitions are to become the medium everybody uses. The people (yes users of the site) can then jointly decide what they prefer and what not. For now I really believe however other things a re more important then me stopping being a dictator in this. I hope my promise not to be the dictator forever will suffice for now as I expand the platform beyond it's beta stage :)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: bulanula on May 16, 2012, 10:32:50 PM
I thought this was "bitcoin scamming site" :D


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 16, 2012, 10:35:15 PM
I think that Bitcoin has HUGE potential in webcam stripping etc. I believe that this could become a big hit.

I whole heartedly agree.. and combine this with various working salary levels of different countries... it may just be the thing that causes the network effect that Bitcoin needs to explode sooner than later.

For example, I absolutely LOVE Vietnamese women and other ethnicities typical of 3rd world countries. I might lose a LOT of Bitcoin to that genre of adult entertainers. Tipping amount that may seem meager to someone in a first world country to someone in a 3rd world country may be very well accepted. Now all of the sudden independant people in these economically challenged situations have a service to provide to the entire world and Bitcoin is extended where it would not have been. Exchange services start showing up in those locations, traditional businesses start wanting a piece of the global currency, etc..

I'm very excited for this.

Thanks a lot I agree. Have you ever heard of a service online (I think from India) where normal people in the west can afford a personal assistant by choosing a PA from India? You will have to collaborate remotely and across timezones, but it is still affordable to ask him to jut go Google for a day for a day searching for simple stuff which you wouldn't give yourself time for (nor would want to do).

Another example is Mechanical Turk (which has a Bitcoin variant). Not there is cam4btc for peepshows ;)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 16, 2012, 10:38:20 PM
I have some requests that might improve the btc side of cam4btc:
  • URI and QR code support
  • show the amount received by the posted address since the beginning of the broadcast
  • include 0-confirmation sends in this
  • detect and filter double spends from this (can't do anything about finney attacks, but they're tips, so it's probably not a big deal)


It would be very cool if everyone saw a tip come in realtime. But no worry about double spends here imo.

I have a ll the above on my todo list expect double spend protection as I think this is not something to worry about in a pure tip system. Think of it as leaving tip on a table in a restaurant. You are not worried other guests will steal it before the waitress retrieves it.

BTW: The tip thing is on top of the todo list rightly after solving some small bugs


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 16, 2012, 10:39:27 PM
Minor release v0.10.5 to stop people from injecting HTML code into other people's chat window doing things like muting the chat.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: d'aniel on May 17, 2012, 02:14:34 AM
I just checked to see if the broadcaster can boot people from their channel and heard it was in the works.

Was thinking this could be used as a way for broadcasters to enforce "pay to stay" where they'd give out unique bitcoin addresses to incoming viewers that they must pay to in order to stay.  Anything like this, but more automated, in the works?

Could they also have the option to close the channel to new visitors?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: gweedo on May 17, 2012, 02:20:45 AM
I just checked to see if the broadcaster can boot people from their channel and heard it was in the works.

Was thinking this could be used as a way for broadcasters to enforce "pay to stay" where they'd give out unique bitcoin addresses to incoming viewers that they must pay to in order to stay.  Anything like this, but more automated, in the works?

"pay to stay" goes against what the site was setup for and the vision of a p2p camming site. Also he doesn't want to handle any bitcoin transactions, that is again a vision of the site, the bitcoins go directly to the users.

Also side note, "pay to stay" works in other sites cause people aren't willing to shell out their money. On this site I have seen people tip as much as they can from 0.005 BTC to 5.00 BTC . So that automation would be worthless and just hurt the cam girl.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Tuxavant on May 17, 2012, 02:24:34 AM
It may end up being a by-product of another necessity and/or use case... In some circumstances, it may be in everyone's interest to kick/ban people at the whim of the broadcaster.

payments dont need to be handled by the cam site.. broadcasters can relay unique payment addresses on screen or via chat. perhaps even PM if that becomes available in the future.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: d'aniel on May 17, 2012, 02:32:35 AM
Also he doesn't want to handle any bitcoin transactions, that is again a vision of the site, the bitcoins go directly to the users.
He wouldn't.  The broadcaster would be handing out their own addresses.

So that automation would be worthless and just hurt the cam girl.
Or the tutor, which is what I currently have in mind :)

Which brings me to my next question: is screencasting in the works?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Tuxavant on May 17, 2012, 02:36:14 AM
Which brings me to my next question: is screencasting in the works?

My understanding is there are virtual cam devices for windows that let you select inputs like a real webcam or screencast session. I'm trying to find a linux solution for this and didn't really pay attention to the names of the windows ones when I was poking around.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: d'aniel on May 17, 2012, 02:53:06 AM
This may be feature creep territory here, but to make this really suitable for tutoring, it'd be nice if the viewers could request that the broadcaster pull up their screencast to play in a window beside theirs, so that communications can become 2-way (or more).  Would that be possible, or is it too far out of scope?

Edit: I know there's the chat, but that's not too suitable for entering math equations...

Further edit: Maybe math is too niche for this feature :)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: gweedo on May 17, 2012, 02:57:09 AM
Also he doesn't want to handle any bitcoin transactions, that is again a vision of the site, the bitcoins go directly to the users.
He wouldn't.  The broadcaster would be handing out their own addresses.

In your first post it was automation which if it was automated would then need the user to always put in their bitcoin address to just view and some people may not like that. Also how would the broadcaster know who address is whose? This would cause so many fights and angry people that would just stop coming to the site. The site is simple if you like the broadcaster, or what they are doing on cam. You tip, your over complexing this simple idea.

So that automation would be worthless and just hurt the cam girl.
Or the tutor, which is what I currently have in mind :)

Which brings me to my next question: is screencasting in the works?

It would hurt the tutor as well :) Believe me anytime there is a "pay to view thing" people will never pay, as much as if they feel they got things out of the lesson. I know especially for a tutor I wouldn't pay until i figured out if their teaching style helped me learn or not.

For screencasting get manycam for windows/mac or if your on mac OSX get camtwist problem sovled.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: d'aniel on May 17, 2012, 03:09:27 AM
In your first post it was automation which if it was automated would then need the user to always put in their bitcoin address to just view and some people may not like that. Also how would the broadcaster know who address is whose? This would cause so many fights and angry people that would just stop coming to the site. The site is simple if you like the broadcaster, or what they are doing on cam. You tip, your over complexing this simple idea.
Eh?  I figured the broadcaster would just give the site a batch of addresses, and the site's software would apportion them to the individual viewers, granting access once payment was received.  No automation is fine, though, I was just curious.

It would hurt the tutor as well :) Believe me anytime there is a "pay to view thing" people will never pay, as much as if they feel they got things out of the lesson. I know especially for a tutor I wouldn't pay until i figured out if their teaching style helped me learn or not.
Well reputation/word of mouth would probably help here.  The tutors I know get a lot of their students that way.  None that I know of work by donation either, though, but I'd rather not have this coversation here :)

For screencasting get manycam for windows/mac or if your on mac OSX get camtwist problem sovled.
Thanks!


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: giszmo on May 17, 2012, 05:44:03 AM
Pay to stay sounds like easy to implement. At least assuming the author wants to get a way of telling who tipped how much.
If this is implemented I see no problem in setting up a pay to stay/proof you have bitcoins option. It would become normal that if you want to see one performer more than one minute in one day you would have to pay something to the address given or if he defined a min price, that price.
This would definitely keep stupid spammers at distance, at least most of them.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: gweedo on May 17, 2012, 04:56:27 PM
Pay to stay sounds like easy to implement. At least assuming the author wants to get a way of telling who tipped how much.
If this is implemented I see no problem in setting up a pay to stay/proof you have bitcoins option. It would become normal that if you want to see one performer more than one minute in one day you would have to pay something to the address given or if he defined a min price, that price.
This would definitely keep stupid spammers at distance, at least most of them.

I see a couple of big issues with pay to stay. One is every time I want to login I will have to supply a bitcoin address, and that will remove the anonymity of yourself since now your linking a bitcoin address to your user name.

Second issue, some of the people I enjoy what they do and I want to tip them, other times I am just hanging out on there. Either way I should be in control of at what times I tip and not.

Third this is an easy way to scam people if implemented you can easily start a pay to stay channel, get a good round of bitcoins and leave. They should just do what they are doing and people tip along the way.

In conclusion pay to stay is dumb and shouldn't be implemented. It is hassle, it removes the core value of the site, and can be exploited to take advantage of people.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Tuxavant on May 17, 2012, 05:46:18 PM
I see a couple of big issues with pay to stay. One is every time I want to login I will have to supply a bitcoin address, and that will remove the anonymity of yourself since now your linking a bitcoin address to your user name.
Tip from an instawallet. Minimal trust required for insta/easy wallet. Automatically washes your dough if left there long enough.

Second issue, some of the people I enjoy what they do and I want to tip them, other times I am just hanging out on there. Either way I should be in control of at what times I tip and not.
Sometimes entertainers don't mind people hanging around and they are just there doing it for fun... but other entertainers might have other use cases. Atleast they have the option.

Third this is an easy way to scam people if implemented you can easily start a pay to stay channel, get a good round of bitcoins and leave. They should just do what they are doing and people tip along the way.
Reputation and verification. Don't tip until you know it's not a loop.

In conclusion pay to stay is dumb and shouldn't be implemented. It is hassle, it removes the core value of the site, and can be exploited to take advantage of people.
There are valid use cases for an entertainer to kick/ban (more secret squirrel stuff on this coming later). An entertainer abusing this feature would suffer a bad rep and we all ultimately have the control of our own purse strings.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 17, 2012, 07:59:18 PM
To sum things up:

1) Screencasting can be done via external software which mimics a camera and shows the screen on it
2) The site has been optimized for one way traffic of audio/video material.
   a) The stream has been set to half_deplex
   b) I have introduced a buffer time which would make it annoying talking to each other but works because audio/video is one way (this increases the quality tremendously)
(so for now, no, later perhaps as separate functionality)

3) Kicking or banning people from your own channel (read:not from the webiste) is something that I';ll be looking to add
4) Pay to stay does not seem like the best idea to me as the default option. I'd like the normal functionality to remain because of the low barrier of entry and because I firmly believe in the concept of tipping (voluntarily deciding what to pay).
I am planning to implement functionality for broadcasters to start a private stream to which they can invite certain people. I think this will enable the functionality you desire but please correct me if I'm wrong.

5) I do think the tutor idea is great (I have had the idea already as well)
6) @Tux, I never used iInstawallet so I have trouble deciphering what you mean there :P Could you please clarify?

Keep ideas/feedback coming you guys :)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 17, 2012, 08:02:01 PM
V 0.11.1: Automated detection of Bitcoin tips which are now shown in the chat channel as they occur!  

So:
* 0-confirmations (doing a double spend for a tip seems utterly retarded to me)
* These messages are displayed in red (Admin messages) and are said by System.

Enjoy :)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Tuxavant on May 17, 2012, 08:02:49 PM
6) @Tux, I never used iInstawallet so I have trouble deciphering what you mean there :P Could you please clarify?

Insta/EasyWallet is an online wallet system. InstaWallet does not actually keep your bitcoins for you, rather, it is a shared pool of Bitcoins. When you deposit Bitcoins, the ones you get back out will almost certainly not be the same Bitcoins you get out. (You have to watch the bitcoin address and wait for them to be removed, then when you withdraw, you get "new" bitcoins.).

My suggestion was to fund a Bitcoin wallet, so your coins automatically get washed and use that wallet to fund your tipping. As good anonymity as you can expect - if you trust InstaWallet to not be the FBI or vomit up log files at the slightest hint of desire for them.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: giszmo on May 17, 2012, 10:05:58 PM
my point of pay to stay in general was that some streamers might want to only have watchers with bitcoins. they might want to set a price of 1 satoshi just to know the effort is worth it aka. the spectators are not some jerks in some internet cafe without bitcoins. i guess i would feel pretty stupid giving a lesson on anything finding out only later that they all would pay me in paypal ... but what was that bitcoin-thing?

pay to stay is not pay to enter, so the first x minutes could be free to not be vulnerable to loop-scammers.

with these 2 points i see a pay to stay as a valuable optional addition to the system that is not dumb and should be implemented ;)

WW: what wording would you suggest? broadcaster/watcher as on the button? streamer/consumer? source/sink? sender/receiver? performer/audience? teacher/student? host/guest? actor/spectator?
Some of these options are definitely better than others but I guess strongly supporting some wording can influence the direction the atmosphere on your site will be.

You said it again and again that the channels can be linked directly but for my baking-classes I need yet another feature. You know even with the direct link to the channel those old ladies happen to click at other channels all the time which is really a little embarrassing. Could you allow me to hide those other channels as a configuration of my baking channel? Or at least allow me to open my channel on some sfw.cam4btc.com or send those ... others ... to nsfw.cam4btc.com?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Technomage on May 17, 2012, 11:04:52 PM
I think that the spirit of the whole thing is better if it's simply tipping. One could eventually add an alternative method of pay to stay and simply let the entertainers choose though. Having both options would probably be best.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: gweedo on May 17, 2012, 11:06:29 PM
my point of pay to stay in general was that some streamers might want to only have watchers with bitcoins. they might want to set a price of 1 satoshi just to know the effort is worth it aka. the spectators are not some jerks in some internet cafe without bitcoins. i guess i would feel pretty stupid giving a lesson on anything finding out only later that they all would pay me in paypal ... but what was that bitcoin-thing?

pay to stay is not pay to enter, so the first x minutes could be free to not be vulnerable to loop-scammers.

with these 2 points i see a pay to stay as a valuable optional addition to the system that is not dumb and should be implemented ;)

WW: what wording would you suggest? broadcaster/watcher as on the button? streamer/consumer? source/sink? sender/receiver? performer/audience? teacher/student? host/guest? actor/spectator?
Some of these options are definitely better than others but I guess strongly supporting some wording can influence the direction the atmosphere on your site will be.

You said it again and again that the channels can be linked directly but for my baking-classes I need yet another feature. You know even with the direct link to the channel those old ladies happen to click at other channels all the time which is really a little embarrassing. Could you allow me to hide those other channels as a configuration of my baking channel? Or at least allow me to open my channel on some sfw.cam4btc.com or send those ... others ... to nsfw.cam4btc.com?

Dude honestly your looking for so many features that are only beneficial to you. This is a cam site, where turn on your cam and earn bitcoins if people enjoy your stream. You are looking to features that would complete destroy this making the site probably fail or make the admin mirco manage the site. I think you should be doing shows to prove that you actually need these features, I think you be very surprised, yet you never did a test run on the site, so I honestly think your opinion of features should be taken with a gain of salt. So stop requesting and actually make a stream and put it on the scheduler so we can all see.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: giszmo on May 17, 2012, 11:14:07 PM
Dude honestly your looking for so many features that are only beneficial to you.</snip>

:( why you hate cooks?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: d'aniel on May 17, 2012, 11:29:14 PM
Dude honestly your looking for so many features that are only beneficial to you.</snip>

:( why you hate cooks?
And tutors?  They couldn't have students stumbling on all the porn either...


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Tuxavant on May 17, 2012, 11:30:26 PM
Where is Team DeCrypto when we need them? Most of this is for them. What do THEY want? They should be sitting in on these design meetings with their naughty leather whips telling us what to do with our dirty little keyboards.

SafeWord: Satoshi

 :-*


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: gweedo on May 17, 2012, 11:37:01 PM
Dude honestly your looking for so many features that are only beneficial to you.</snip>

:( why you hate cooks?
And tutors?  They couldn't have students stumbling on all the porn either...

Cause people like this have completely missed the vision of the site! You are trying to get features for a site that would only help you and not the community! I am on the site everyday and I have yet to see either of you actually put on a show, so I think once you put on a show and see it then you can make comments.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: gweedo on May 17, 2012, 11:37:48 PM
Where is Team DeCrypto when we need them? Most of this is for them. What do THEY want? They should be sitting in on these design meetings with their naughty leather whips telling us what to do with our dirty little keyboards.

SafeWord: Satoshi

 :-*


I AGREED YOU ARE MAKING PERFECT SENSE TO ME ;)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: d'aniel on May 18, 2012, 12:06:54 AM
Gweedo, you sound rabid  :D  Relax, we're just throwing out ideas.  More uses for bitcoin is good for the "community" IMHO.  On a separate site is fine, too.  Nobody wants a mess of a site that tries to do everything for everyone.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: giszmo on May 18, 2012, 03:53:03 AM
Dude honestly your looking for so many features that are only beneficial to you.</snip>

:( why you hate cooks?
And tutors?  They couldn't have students stumbling on all the porn either...

Cause people like this have completely missed the vision of the site! You are trying to get features for a site that would only help you and not the community! I am on the site everyday and I have yet to see either of you actually put on a show, so I think once you put on a show and see it then you can make comments.

gweedo it was just so funny that you took me for a cook :)

I'm a programmer and know how little extra effort it is to have 2 listings rather than one and as WW seams not to be passionate about the girls but rather about his idea in general, he should leave it to the community to use it to its capacity. NSFW links covering half the screen is just repelling 90% of potential hosts.

Lastly let me add that I am testing the site every day since I post here. Maybe I would use my real name or the nick familiar to you in a SFW section.

Thanx for putting the secret cook in me outside the community.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: gweedo on May 18, 2012, 04:36:49 AM
Quote
I'm a programmer and know how little extra effort it is to have 2 listings rather than one and as WW seams not to be passionate about the girls but rather about his idea in general, he should leave it to the community to use it to its capacity. NSFW links covering half the screen is just repelling 90% of potential hosts.
I think we are all into the idea, but WW realized that this would be mostly used in sexual way, cause that is way the community would go in a webcam situation. He embraced that part of the community and instead of trying to filter it out or trying to stop it. Second this is the way most of the community is using it, and some people in the community use it for other SFW which I have also seen and tipped. I think the NSFW isn't repelling 90%, lets be realistic here it is probably like 5%, the most people online in one room was for one of these girls so lets call a spade a spade. Sex sells and this is just one thing that is taking advantage of that ride to then spawn into other things. To be honest my beef isn't with you but when your requesting only features you would use or that would just take up space on the site, or even worst that destroys the core visions, then I am going to express my opinion about how bad they are, and how stupid these ideas are and how they wouldn't work, that is what this forum is for. Also if I saw a good idea I would praise it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 18, 2012, 06:00:14 PM
Lol at the discussions you guys. I like people are passionate about this, shows I am doing something right :)

Let me reply to this by (re?)iterating my vision:

I think people should be able to make money by providing any sort of service for which there is demand in a lightweight manner without paying excessive fees.
I think people should be able to to receive any sort of service and pay what they think is a fair price for this service without without paying excessive fees.

For non-physical personal services (think: entertaining and teaching) I am creating a solution which accomplishes this.

In this approach:

1) I use Bitcoin as a payment system because this is a solution which is necessary to make this work (Bitcoin is not the goal but the solution!)
2) I use a tipping system because I think this is the most optimal to:
   a) let people pay what they think is fair
   b) will also make more money for the broadcasters because of the replication power of computers and the internet. For the same amount of effort your service (e.g. a cam show) can be broadcast to as many people as there are people that are interested. Because of this the amount you need to make per watcher/consumer is far less. Next to this there have been experiments done (mainly at hotels and restaurants) where people are allowed to pay what they think is fair and this turned out to earn the same amount or more then simply charging. With the added replication effect this should result in way more income. Still, please observe that a tipping system is not a goal in itself but a means to an end

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This all being said I'll respond this the individual remarks:

1) Yes there is likely going to be a need to split the list. If only because the current solution does not scale at all. I don't think this is necessary now though as the site is still too small to be split or subdivided internally. Also, there isn't a list full of NSFW, still quite a portion of the time the site doesn't have an active broadcast at all. You say it's easy to split it in two, which is true for me, but it would force users to make another choice which isn't necessary at this point. Next to this, just splitting the site in two is still not particularly scalable as it would need a category system (may be also similar to Reddit) for that. I do like the idea of a split in SNFW/SFW someday as there possible uses of this service which would require the NSFW material to be blocked (think anything to do with children). (btw you say the NSFW listings fill half the stream, it will in the future hopefully, but right now: I'd wish :))

You also ask for functionality which would block the complete stream list. if you are serious and want to do something particular with the site that requires that and are planning to actually use the site  at this moment when a categorical system has yet not evolved I'm willing to work with you and create a temporary solution. If not, I won't waste time on temporary solutions and let final ones evolve as the site grows naturally.

2) Like I said I will not be implementing pay to stay now at least because It is quite different form what I believe will work best. I mentioned private channels because that would keep people on my site instead of just using Skype when they want to arrange that but I'm not sure about that either yet.  May be just removing people from your channel is sufficient. You also say people don't want to  "perform" and then find out people have no Bitcoins. Think of the performers on the streets in major cities. They perform also for people that are never going to pay them, others do however which keeps them going. Now think of the scalability this would provide and the low amount of tipping people could do. With Bitcoin it is feasible to tip very low amounts without fees giving the broadcasters an income because there are (potentially) going to be so many of them.

3) Yes, I agree  the girls could give valuable feedback in this situation (I have received some via Reddit PM). Next time I see them I'll ask ENterTheDragonfly, Darling.LA and Dino Rawr to make an account here. If you are on the site and see broadcasters you can help and ask them as well whether they would like to join the discussion.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 18, 2012, 06:01:03 PM
Check it out! Cam4btc is 3rd! http://bitcoincounsel.com/charts/mostclicked  ;D


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Gabi on May 18, 2012, 06:12:47 PM
Awesome!

As for using the website for "tutor" or "learning"... well yes it can be used for that but i think the website will be used for like +90% of the time for sexy things so of course it has to focus on NFSW


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 19, 2012, 11:45:07 AM
As quite some of you have read cam4btc is unreachable because the hoster is down completely. I have been unable to reach him so I'll set up a temp server with limited functionality for now. Working on it now.

Sorry for the inconvenience, I am quite bummed out myself too


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 19, 2012, 12:31:27 PM
And back up on the backup host without scheduling mechanism when the DNS resolves.

I reached someone that works with the guy that hosts my site on an open source project and he thought that he mentioned a trip and will probably be home on Monday. So until then it will be backup site. Note that ALL functionality except the scheduling mechanism will work :)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 19, 2012, 01:35:50 PM
LOL just after I moved it Riush cam onto IRC and fixed everything by rebooting the server. So, the site is backup now on the original host with full functionality.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Jan on May 20, 2012, 04:04:10 AM
How do I decode the schedule times? Right now there is one at 05/21/2012 9:00 by darling.LA. Is that in my own time zone? Or is it GMT? Or some else entirely?
It would be nice if it reported which time zone, or according to my local time, or just plainly said "In 1 day, 5 hours and 13 minutes"


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 20, 2012, 10:19:53 AM
Everything is automatically converted to the time zone set on your computer :)

I'll add it to the description, I thought it would make sense to a user everything is fine if I just didn't mention time zones altogether :P (I have had this feedback before the last couple of days)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: gweedo on May 20, 2012, 04:12:54 PM
How do I decode the schedule times? Right now there is one at 05/21/2012 9:00 by darling.LA. Is that in my own time zone? Or is it GMT? Or some else entirely?
It would be nice if it reported which time zone, or according to my local time, or just plainly said "In 1 day, 5 hours and 13 minutes"


it is also in military time


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 20, 2012, 04:25:39 PM
Okay I had some time to work in  the site today:

1) Totally revamped the channel members functionality making it reliable
2) Added a show members pop-up list to see who is currently on the channel
3) Added ignore functionality to the above list. Ignoring a user will hide all chat messages by that user. If a user leaves a channel and rejoins he will retain his ignored status with you. If he reconnects he will not be ignored because there is no way client side to differentiate between a genuine new user and an existing user that returns. This functionality is silent, ignored users will not know they are ignored.
4) Altered the Scheduled Show functionality to be more clear. I changed the wording and for the list of scheduled shows changed how the date is displayed. Is this more clear guys?
5) Went over the FAQ and added the functionality I added today. Explanation about quality settings and explanation of what the name colors mean is still out, don't want the FAQ to become so verbose no-one will read it :P

So guys enjoy version v0.12.2 !!


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 20, 2012, 04:50:17 PM
Two more things:

1) Dino-Rawr is on! Come and see

2) Follow my Twitter account for updates: @Cam4BTC


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Gabi on May 20, 2012, 04:55:57 PM
Wow, she's a beautiful girl


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: giszmo on May 20, 2012, 05:12:28 PM
please fix the chat scroll back. When I scroll up, it should not jump down for new messages. With 27 people in the channel this is important I guess.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Tuxavant on May 20, 2012, 05:13:29 PM
please fix the chat scroll back. When I scroll up, it should not jump down for new messages. With 27 people in the channel this is important I guess.

Now that you mention it, perhaps a scrollback on the video would be more "useful" lol


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Gabi on May 20, 2012, 05:16:08 PM
please fix the chat scroll back. When I scroll up, it should not jump down for new messages. With 27 people in the channel this is important I guess.
+1


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 20, 2012, 05:19:00 PM
So what is the intended functionality? Auto-scrolling down seems way better then having to scroll yourself right?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Gabi on May 20, 2012, 05:23:12 PM
Let me explain

It must be autoscroll when you put the bar at the bottom

but, autoscroll must stop if i move the bar and i go read old messages

first part is fine now, but if i try to read an old message it's impossible cause as someone type something, it autoscroll down


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: giszmo on May 20, 2012, 05:56:36 PM
you could also give 10 messages scroll back for new people joining?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: rjk on May 20, 2012, 07:46:30 PM
Also, making the join and part messages a little less intrusive would be cool. Perhaps a smaller font and in grey, instead of red.



Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 20, 2012, 08:30:16 PM
1) I'll look into only scrolling when not on the bottom. That is just not very straightforward to do :)
2) ATM Chat is peer2peer like streaming and you can only only get messages if you are connected while they arrive. I could move it to server side and buffer 10 messages there but at this point I'm not sure I want to.
3) I could do that. I'll have to look and see, no clue what's lest obtrusive ... (right now they are red because all system messages are, like when a donation arrives).

However:

v0.12.3 has QR code support

If anyone would test it for me that would be great as I don't own a smart phone. Rigth now I am encoding: Bitcoin:$BitcoinAddress$
Please let me know if it is correct


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: rjk on May 20, 2012, 08:35:41 PM
v0.12.3 has QR code support

If anyone would test it for me that would be great as I don't own a smart phone. Rigth now I am encoding: Bitcoin:$BitcoinAddress$
Please let me know if it is correct
I think Jan has fixed it now, but his mobile wallet used to choke on the capital B in Bitcoin, I believe the spec says it should be lower case.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 20, 2012, 08:38:10 PM
I had to go check and I have entered it lowercase by accident. So that shouldn't be a problem :)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: giszmo on May 20, 2012, 08:58:38 PM
2) ATM Chat is peer2peer like streaming and you can only only get messages if you are connected while they arrive. I could move it to server side and buffer 10 messages there but at this point I'm not sure I want to.

if I get video and chat peer to peer where should there be a problem also getting a history peer to peer? I mean I would get the last 8 messages from somebody who also joined recently and maybe at the same time 10 messages from somebody else. giving messages a unique id to prevent them from popping up twice shouldn't be a big deal.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: gweedo on May 20, 2012, 09:11:42 PM
2) ATM Chat is peer2peer like streaming and you can only only get messages if you are connected while they arrive. I could move it to server side and buffer 10 messages there but at this point I'm not sure I want to.

if I get video and chat peer to peer where should there be a problem also getting a history peer to peer? I mean I would get the last 8 messages from somebody who also joined recently and maybe at the same time 10 messages from somebody else. giving messages a unique id to prevent them from popping up twice shouldn't be a big deal.

this is IRC style leave it, otherwise just leave your computer on and you get all the messages :)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 20, 2012, 09:13:29 PM
I'm not saying it is impossible. it adds complexity. At the moment I don't even store them as separate messages on the client but rather format and filter them as required and add them to the html area.

Has anyone have had a chance to test the QR codes?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: giszmo on May 20, 2012, 09:38:04 PM
Has anyone have had a chance to test the QR codes?

has anyone received .1BTC? Just sent to your 1cam4btc via Bitcoin Spinner.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 20, 2012, 09:41:04 PM
Yes I did thank you :)

http://blockchain.info/tx-index/6309196/87e8e31176b5e0e0ca84b767422285c7c1cda6263b218e2ef7db1be719c0bb60


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 20, 2012, 10:15:11 PM
3 shows in the next 3 hours come and see.

1) Guy who just showed his GF in the shower as a teaser and will be on together in a little under an hour.
2) In a little over an hour Lady of the HR who I know nothing about
3) Dino Rawr in a little under 3 hours time.

Enjoy :)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: BitcoinBug on May 21, 2012, 03:07:02 PM
I like the "new tip received" notification and I think it would be even better if the color would stand out a little. I'm thinking bright yellow background with red/black letters. I got the idea from myfreecams. Why? Because when a model is dancing away from screen, the tip would be noticeable from distance. Different notification sound for tips would be another plus.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Gabi on May 21, 2012, 03:38:41 PM
Yup, a sound would be nice.

Anyway, less than half a hour for darling.LA show


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 21, 2012, 08:59:27 PM
Also, making the join and part messages a little less intrusive would be cool. Perhaps a smaller font and in grey, instead of red.

I like the "new tip received" notification and I think it would be even better if the color would stand out a little. I'm thinking bright yellow background with red/black letters. I got the idea from myfreecams. Why? Because when a model is dancing away from screen, the tip would be noticeable from distance. Different notification sound for tips would be another plus.

Yup, a sound would be nice.

Anyway, less than half a hour for darling.LA show

For now I just made the join and leave messages less obtrusive, hopefully this will make the donation messages stand out more automatically as well.

I also added a permanent lobby to talk when there are no broadcasts.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 22, 2012, 05:47:24 PM
I noticed in the last couple of days (and Sunday-night/Monday morning in particular) that a lot of people were on that did not have Bitcoins (or even knew what they were) and some commented they did want to donate but did not know how. Also, I heard that people complain about being unable to use Credit Card or Pay-Pal to purchase Bitcoins.

Therefore I have made a deal with QuickBitcoins.tk to be featured on cam4btc.com. QuickBitcoins.tk accepts Paypal and credit cards (as well as many other payment systems, many of which are also accepted by other exchanges/vendors).

Disclosure:
Cam4BTC will receive a portion of the profit margin on every purchase made there through our website.

Disclaimer:

I have looked around and the only problems I found with the site is that they use a very similar the to bitcoinnordic.com. However:

1) This is based on a  freely available template
2) They claim to have sacked the site developer and will change the design of their website as soon as possible.

Other than that I was unable to find negative reviews about them and found the above insufficient to reject a partnership with them. I have however not personally used their service so please do your own due diligence.

Finally:

In the future I will have links to stripcoin.com by Tuxavant as well when he finishes the logo(s). Hopefully these additions combined will help people that are watching the streams in acquiring Bitcoins to donate to the  broadcasters :)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Gabi on May 22, 2012, 06:39:51 PM
You are doing a great job


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: BitcoinBug on May 22, 2012, 07:15:30 PM
For now I just made the join and leave messages less obtrusive, hopefully this will make the donation messages stand out more automatically as well.

Thank you. I already have another request :)
I find it bothersome always having to enter my name... I know you already have ?CHANNEL= parameter functioning, could you add another NAME parameter, so we wouldn't need to enter or click anything to get in?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 22, 2012, 08:39:23 PM
That has already been present for some time :)

(I love requests for functionality already present :P)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: giszmo on May 22, 2012, 11:32:08 PM
I need the previously requested feature for SFW-performers. Now for real.

If you don't have the man-power to do this, I could also help with that.
If you don't have the money to pay me, I would take a promise of shares of money generated via my feature.

What could work would be some stream4BTC that does not list channels but forward you to stream4BTC/host/UUID1
The host could get a guest-link stream4BTC/view/UUID2 to send to his visitors and an option to list the channel on cam4btc. I doubt though that many - especially pretty female - hosts would be happy to get disturbed by horny freaks when doing some non-porn presentation though.

If my feature request is totally wrong here, please point me to equally easy to use systems out there that I can show to women from very conservative countries without having to explain too much. Also I guess it is easier for many here to promote the technology with facebook posts if there is a sfw-section.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 23, 2012, 12:02:55 AM
Let's see if I got this right:

Basically you would like 2 things:

1) Make being listed on the channel list optional
2) Be able to provide a direct link to a channel (already implemented)

If this is the case it would be pretty easy and relatively indisruptive for people using the site as it currently works (a single checkbox added to the start a broadcast menu).

Did I get what you were aiming at?

Also, could you elaborate on what you are planning on doing with it (I'm curious)? If you don't list yourself, only people you explicitly sent the link to will find the channel. If you already know who you're going to give a video presentation to why would you/they want to use this system? Did I really make it lightweight and easy enough to be able to compete with already existing solutions for this? :)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: giszmo on May 23, 2012, 12:36:56 AM
1) Make being listed on the channel list optional
To not get interrupted by horny guys, yes.

2) Be able to provide a direct link to a channel (already implemented)
It isn't. http://www.cam4btc.com/?CHANNEL=sdaf did not ask me for my name assuming me to be a viewer taking me directly to the show. It just behaved like the link without "channel". And if I used it wrong: an undocumented feature isn't a feature in my eyes anyway. There should be a link in the host's screen at least.

If this is the case it would be pretty easy and relatively indisruptive for people using the site as it currently works (a single checkbox added to the start a broadcast menu).

Did I get what you were aiming at?

Also, could you elaborate on what you are planning on doing with it (I'm curious)? If you don't list yourself, only people you explicitly sent the link to will find the channel. If you already know who you're going to give a video presentation to why would you/they want to use this system? Did I really make it lightweight and easy enough to be able to compete with already existing solutions for this? :)
Well, which other solutions are there that are free to use and scale to at least 100 viewers easily? I'm thinking of Iran, so that's no credit card, no paypal and usually very low upstream. No hangouts and no Skype neither btw.
And ... usually people would freak out if there is porn less than 12 clicks away. You can safely assume this last point to be a problem in all Arab countries which is a huge market.

Links to alternative services are welcome in this particular case but generally my intention was to promote bitcoin as a wonderful thing for people in Iran.

Actually Iran announced to lock down outbound connections a long time ago and is blocking tons of stuff already so surely this would not grow big in Iran but it could be the spark to get bitcoin there.</dreaming>


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Tuxavant on May 23, 2012, 12:52:55 AM
And if I used it wrong: an undocumented feature isn't a feature in my eyes anyway. There should be a link in the host's screen at least.

This API would be a great addition to the FAQ.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: rjk on May 23, 2012, 12:57:34 AM
giszmo, why not set up your own service? Perhaps watchtwoord would give or sell the source to you.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: giszmo on May 23, 2012, 02:45:42 AM
giszmo, why not set up your own service? Perhaps watchtwoord would give or sell the source to you.

Well, my offer to put some work into it at a share basis was already quite much regarding how much money I guess there is in this one particular solution aka I don't believe this will grow big. Bet it would be far to vulnerable to sabotage via many vectors. Yet the idea is good and worth being promoted. I have already 4 projects going that are all not getting the attention they deserve so I could spare some hours adding what I need if I get access but not get fully into this business. Also I don't want to compete in a business that has no money in it on the short run.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: BitcoinBug on May 23, 2012, 05:17:10 AM
That has already been present for some time :)

(I love requests for functionality already present :P)

Now that you said it, I figured it out. It's funny though, name works, Name works, NAME doesn't, two parameter at the same time (?Channel=Lobby&Name=xy) don't work either.

I have what I need though, thanks!


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 23, 2012, 10:29:34 AM
That's because I separate parameters with an underscore: Channel=Lobby_Name=xy

I could add it to the FAQ but didn't want to complicate it. Same goes for the UI. I will think about this.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Gabi on May 23, 2012, 01:43:24 PM
it seems there is fiestyfemme show today


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Tuxavant on May 23, 2012, 01:52:04 PM
she looks hawt!!


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: giszmo on May 23, 2012, 04:58:31 PM
That's because I separate parameters with an underscore: Channel=Lobby_Name=xy

I could add it to the FAQ but didn't want to complicate it. Same goes for the UI. I will think about this.

How about changing it to how the rest of the world does it ;)

Who's interested in doing a copy-cat as FOSS? I would be in with some hours per week.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 23, 2012, 05:14:15 PM
That's because I separate parameters with an underscore: Channel=Lobby_Name=xy

I could add it to the FAQ but didn't want to complicate it. Same goes for the UI. I will think about this.

How about changing it to how the rest of the world does it ;)

Who's interested in doing a copy-cat as FOSS? I would be in with some hours per week.

Could you elaborate? I don't understand what you mean.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Tuxavant on May 23, 2012, 05:21:10 PM
I think he means the "rest of the world" uses an & to separate parameters.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 23, 2012, 05:24:05 PM
Oh, I did that because I could not get the & working without customization (I had to escape it I think), I could get this working faster and I thought I could use my time more valuable . I am not even sure whether the feature will stay in the current form. I agree it might be a bit confusing though.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Gabi on May 23, 2012, 07:00:45 PM
She's here and she's beutiful!


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 24, 2012, 10:39:43 PM
We reached version 0.13! (I'm not skipping numbers ;))

New features:

1) Show total amount donated to for a show
2) Show wether a broadcast is actually broadcating
3) Allow broadcasters to change their name and the name of the show without disconnecting

Enjoy :)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: giszmo on May 25, 2012, 12:00:59 AM
completely broken at my side.

asks my name. i give it and say watch or host. i get a small empty window.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 25, 2012, 12:11:41 AM
Weird works fine for me. Have you tried connecting again?

If it is still not working could you run http://cc.rtmfp.net ? Thanks


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: giszmo on May 25, 2012, 12:34:43 AM
Weird works fine for me. Have you tried connecting again?

yes

If it is still not working could you run http://cc.rtmfp.net ? Thanks

01100111

actually for some reason your site did not work in chromium so i always used FF. Now when I try it in chromium, I get:

Code:
An ActionScript error has occurred:
TypeError: Error #1009: Cannot access a property or method of a null object reference.
at view.renderers::BroadcastingRenderer/set data()[C:\Users\Kevin\Adobe Flash Builder 4.6\BitcoinsGoneWild\src\view\renderers\BroadcastingRenderer.mxml:12]
at spark.components.gridClasses::GridLayout/initializeItemRenderer()[E:\dev\4.y\frameworks\projects\spark\src\spark\components\gridClasses\GridLayout.as:1314]
at spark.components.gridClasses::GridLayout/createTypicalItemRenderer()[E:\dev\4.y\frameworks\projects\spark\src\spark\components\gridClasses\GridLayout.as:750]
at spark.components.gridClasses::GridLayout/updateTypicalCellSizes()[E:\dev\4.y\frameworks\projects\spark\src\spark\components\gridClasses\GridLayout.as:883]
at spark.components.gridClasses::GridLayout/measure()[E:\dev\4.y\frameworks\projects\spark\src\spark\components\gridClasses\GridLayout.as:444]
at spark.components.supportClasses::GroupBase/measure()[E:\dev\4.y\frameworks\projects\spark\src\spark\components\supportClasses\GroupBase.as:1148]
at mx.core::UIComponent/http://www.adobe.com/2006/flex/mx/internal::measureSizes()[E:\dev\4.y\frameworks\projects\framework\src\mx\core\UIComponent.as:8506]
at mx.core::UIComponent/validateSize()[E:\dev\4.y\frameworks\projects\framework\src\mx\core\UIComponent.as:8430]
at spark.components::Group/validateSize()[E:\dev\4.y\frameworks\projects\spark\src\spark\components\Group.as:1012]
at mx.managers::LayoutManager/validateSize()[E:\dev\4.y\frameworks\projects\framework\src\mx\managers\LayoutManager.as:665]
at mx.managers::LayoutManager/doPhasedInstantiation()[E:\dev\4.y\frameworks\projects\framework\src\mx\managers\LayoutManager.as:816]
at mx.managers::LayoutManager/doPhasedInstantiationCallback()[E:\dev\4.y\frameworks\projects\framework\src\mx\managers\LayoutManager.as:1180]


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Fiyasko on May 25, 2012, 02:55:46 PM
We reached version 0.13! (I'm not skipping numbers ;))

New features:

1) Show total amount donated to for a show
2) Show wether a broadcast is actually broadcating
3) Allow broadcasters to change their name and the name of the show without disconnecting

Enjoy :)
Toatally broken now in IE9, and FF


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 25, 2012, 03:13:03 PM
Very weird you guys are experiencing this as it looks like a CannotHappenException :P I have added an explicit test for a null value there. Thanks Giszmo for the explicit error report otherwise I would have been unable to debug this as I cannot reproduce this at all.

Be sure to try again with v0.13.1


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: giszmo on May 25, 2012, 03:47:29 PM
uhm ... now in chromium@linux64 I get a channel listing but still have the problem that i can't allow/deny the peer-assist thing - unless I open the flash settings before getting asked. So for me it works but ... it's not trivial.

In FF I get it running by clearing the cache (browsing to cam4btc?bla=fu).


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: bulanula on May 25, 2012, 03:50:45 PM
uhm ... now in chromium@linux64 I get a channel listing but still have the problem that i can't allow/deny the peer-assist thing - unless I open the flash settings before getting asked. So for me it works but ... it's not trivial.

In FF I get it running by clearing the cache (browsing to cam4btc?bla=fu).

Same here !


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 25, 2012, 03:52:22 PM
That is an issue that exists for Abobe Flex player in combination with certain desktop systems on Linux (Apparently 2d Gnome works fine). There is nothing I can do about that sorry :(

Thanks for telling me it differs per browser.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 29, 2012, 08:20:49 PM
Darling.LA is live now


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Tuxavant on May 29, 2012, 08:40:50 PM
Missed it by -><- much.. You need an RSS feed of upcoming shows or something.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: gweedo on May 29, 2012, 08:46:06 PM
Missed it by -><- much.. You need an RSS feed of upcoming shows or something.

no you didn't she was just scheduling a show she will we be back later :) you didn't miss anything


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 29, 2012, 09:32:50 PM
This is the girl (sorry for the lack of sound, I took it real quick but it's fine for an impression I think)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n76IOnst4xM


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: giszmo on May 29, 2012, 11:54:17 PM
This is the girl (sorry for the lack of sound, I took it real quick but it's fine for an impression I think)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n76IOnst4xM

Oh yeah I guess to the limit of youtube's TOS with the right buzz words and a link to cam4btc this could generate some traffic ;) ... but for now the link is missing.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: giszmo on May 29, 2012, 11:57:04 PM
... oh, and people complaining about the streaming quality in the chat is not really good advertisement neither ;) Better do a recording of people tipping 10 BTC ;)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: gweedo on May 29, 2012, 11:59:54 PM
... oh, and people complaining about the streaming quality in the chat is not really good advertisement neither ;) Better do a recording of people tipping 10 BTC ;)

We weren't complaining we were telling darlingLA to lower her FPS and she did and the show was amazing quality. It actually showed a community helping each other, best advertisement ever :)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: BTCurious on May 30, 2012, 12:29:54 AM
This is the girl (sorry for the lack of sound, I took it real quick but it's fine for an impression I think)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n76IOnst4xM
Why does it say that BTCurious is broadcasting a southpark stream? I haven't been on there in weeks.
Is someone impersonating me?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: gweedo on May 30, 2012, 01:41:38 AM
This is the girl (sorry for the lack of sound, I took it real quick but it's fine for an impression I think)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n76IOnst4xM
Why does it say that BTCurious is broadcasting a southpark stream? I haven't been on there in weeks.
Is someone impersonating me?


:( and that is why you haven't been answering me on there LOL but seriously it has the same cam setup as you js i would contact wachtwoord


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: BTCurious on May 30, 2012, 09:08:38 AM
I have never actually set up any stream… I don't know who that is or if it's maybe a glitch. I'm idling in the channel now (Mqrius) to see if he replies to my message (which he doesn't).


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 30, 2012, 04:31:16 PM
... oh, and people complaining about the streaming quality in the chat is not really good advertisement neither ;) Better do a recording of people tipping 10 BTC ;)

This was just to get some people on there and show the stream was very good after she changed the settings. I haven't asked permission to use it for marketing purposes of the site (I used it for marketing purposes of her own show now, which I presumed is fine. If you look you'll see the video is hidden from people that don't have the direct link.

Also I want to emphasize the video was very good (I should look into recording it better).



Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 30, 2012, 04:33:01 PM
I have never actually set up any stream… I don't know who that is or if it's maybe a glitch. I'm idling in the channel now (Mqrius) to see if he replies to my message (which he doesn't).

I doubt there is a glitch as there is someone broadcasting. Broadcasts don't immerse from thin air :)

Why would someone impersonate you?  ??? This is weird


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: BTCurious on May 30, 2012, 04:49:09 PM
I have never actually set up any stream… I don't know who that is or if it's maybe a glitch. I'm idling in the channel now (Mqrius) to see if he replies to my message (which he doesn't).

I doubt there is a glitch as there is someone broadcasting. Broadcasts don't immerse from thin air :)

Why would someone impersonate you?  ??? This is weird
Yeah, I meant a glitch in the username display. Perhaps this person isn't aware he's being shown as BTCurious…?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 30, 2012, 08:10:55 PM
Daling.LA is on again


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: gweedo on May 30, 2012, 08:26:44 PM
Daling.LA is on again

she left I think :( but MissVi will be on in 34mins :) according to the schedule


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on May 31, 2012, 05:36:23 PM
Quite some nice shows in the last couple of days. High quality video also, but not that many viewers. If you guys (that like the site) could spread the word to make this grow that would be great :)

I have added a cool animated gif banner to stripcoin (brought to you by Tuxavant) as well, so users can easily find help regarding the combination of camming and Bitcoins as well.

I'll be off for a on a business trip for more then a week starting Tomorrow so development will be stagnant in this period. However all of the highest value functionality is working very well so all should be fine. Just posting it to let you know I have not gone AWOL :P

Later guys


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Gabi on June 03, 2012, 04:58:39 PM
Well if no one know there is a nice girl doing a show, no one of course go and watch it... that's the problem


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Tuxavant on June 03, 2012, 05:02:42 PM
I always encourage the entertainers to invite their personal followers from their other venues to cam4btc.com and encourage those followers to think about Bitcoin and try it out. That way, they are not just catering to the Bitcoin nerd community, but extending it to people that are far out of our reach.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Gabi on June 04, 2012, 09:51:27 AM
It seems ENTerTheDragonfly will do a show today

http://girls.stripcoin.com/comments/uja4b/i_will_be_on_cam4btc_in_24_hours_check_out/


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Gabi on June 04, 2012, 06:17:29 PM
Show is in the schedule

Unluckily it's a bit too late for me.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Mousepotato on June 06, 2012, 01:31:52 AM
Just out of curiosity, how much can a girl expect to make during a cam show?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: rjk on June 06, 2012, 01:35:46 AM
Just out of curiosity, how much can a girl expect to make during a cam show?
Good question. There is a donations ticker that shows contributions in red as they come in in real time, but I don't know if there is a history of past sessions anywhere. Perhaps some of the girls on reddit could tell you, or you could grab the bitcoin address of a few performers and look at them after a while.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: gweedo on June 06, 2012, 02:04:53 AM
Just out of curiosity, how much can a girl expect to make during a cam show?

last night the girl made 13+ btcs js


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: BTCurious on June 06, 2012, 09:20:50 AM
I keep reading "Bitcoin Scamming Site". Sorry about that :P


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Tuxavant on June 06, 2012, 12:33:20 PM
LOL... cannot be unseen!


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: giszmo on June 07, 2012, 12:33:04 AM
I keep reading "Bitcoin Scamming Site". Sorry about that :P

Is bitcoinscamming.com still available? I see a lot of activity and interest in that area ;)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: BTCurious on June 07, 2012, 01:49:03 AM
I keep reading "Bitcoin Scamming Site". Sorry about that :P

Is bitcoinscamming.com still available? I see a lot of activity and interest in that area ;)
Yeah let's organize that, there seems to be a large market for it!


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: bulanula on June 07, 2012, 05:49:37 PM
I keep reading "Bitcoin Scamming Site". Sorry about that :P

Is bitcoinscamming.com still available? I see a lot of activity and interest in that area ;)

Dude, don't squat on my domain ! :D


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: IveBeenBit on June 10, 2012, 05:44:58 PM
The Dino-RAWR show on Friday was pretty good. She had like 50 viewers but sadly, only 3 brought Bitcoins. So for a while, it looked like there wasn't going to be a show. One guy opened another channel and sold BTC at a 30% markup in exchange for Amazon gift codes, then the show started. I forget what her total take was, but it wasn't much. I'm really hoping to see sites this cam4btc succeed. There's another girl on the schedule for later today so we'll see how it goes.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: crazy_rabbit on June 10, 2012, 06:18:37 PM
Hi, I got back from my trip today.

Regarding your comment: I contacted QuickBitcoins and apparently not a single visitor coming from cam4btc.com has actually bought Bitcoins there. I really think lack of Bitcoins among the public is something that is slwoing the growth of the site. People don't mind giving a really small amount for the show, they just find it too much hassle to acquire the Bitcoins. I'm up for any suggestions to make the process easier but I think it would be best if I could avoid to sell them myself as that would cause two conflicting concerns to appear on the site.

BTW I also noted the number of clicks on the Bitcoinadvertizers link has gone way way down (0.05% ctr from >4%) since I changed it into a rotating add. Does anyone have an insight on this? Should I put BitcoinAdvertizers first in the rotation (as that is the only one making the site any revenue). Two times during my absence the site had massive amounts of hits (2k and 1.3 k respectively) which are records and I am really pleased about that. I got a report that on the 5th of June ENTerTheButterfly has made 13BTC+ on donations so sometimes it does work but of course this all needs to improve:

A summary of the hits and add clicks during my 10 day absence:

http://i48.tinypic.com/u3qrb.png

So everyone: What do you guys reckon is the next step forward?

Offer litecoins? :-)

No seriously, you probably have to sell BTC yourself to get non-BTC people to get involved. Remember for many people getting ahold of bitcoins at a reasonable rate is still quite a chore. BitInstant makes things easier, but the fees really hurt and I don't see many people trying to get over to Wallmart to pick up some BTC just to make it back to watch a girl undress online. :-(


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: giszmo on June 10, 2012, 07:47:57 PM
If you offer alternate payments, this could work but then you would get more involved with things than you maybe want to. "hey, you just sold CP" if you know what I mean.

You should link to ways to buy bitcoin though.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: gweedo on June 10, 2012, 07:50:24 PM
If you offer alternate payments, this could work but then you would get more involved with things than you maybe want to. "hey, you just sold CP" if you know what I mean.

You should link to ways to buy bitcoin though.

He does link to a place that you can buy bitcoins, in the lower right hand corner js

and I agree with the top of this statement you need to have more hands on filtering of content then, just to protect the buyers and site.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: IveBeenBit on June 10, 2012, 11:17:36 PM
Hi, I got back from my trip today.

Regarding your comment: I contacted QuickBitcoins and apparently not a single visitor coming from cam4btc.com has actually bought Bitcoins there. I really think lack of Bitcoins among the public is something that is slwoing the growth of the site. People don't mind giving a really small amount for the show, they just find it too much hassle to acquire the Bitcoins. I'm up for any suggestions to make the process easier but I think it would be best if I could avoid to sell them myself as that would cause two conflicting concerns to appear on the site.

Well, partly, I think Dino-Rawr's problem was that she did a lot of promotion for her show on non-bitcoin specific channels, like in the generic "Reddit Gone Wild" subreddit. I did not see her ever post on these forums and not at the stripcoin.com site, either. But maybe I missed her announcement there.

Bitinstant has made it more convenient than ever for bitcoin dabblers to acquire coins, but their web page sucks and they don't have any tutorial for how to use their "get bitcoins at Walmart" type services. So I think the uncertainty scares people away. Hell, I am obsessed with Bitcoins and when I went on their site I couldn't figure out exactly how it's supposed to work.

I'm actually planning to do a youtube video series for such people to walk them through the process of buying via Bitinstant.

Another thing that would help would be if some sexy girls did shows, did not get paid after 15 minutes and then logged off leaving a bunch of frustrated, horny guys wishing they had brought some BTC with them. All the shows I have seen so far have 2 or 3 "heroes" throwing money around out of a couple dozen+ viewers. If the "heroes" don't show up and the girls log off, maybe some more people will start taking responsibility for themselves.

Finally, Quickbitcoins is down right now, so I can't check but I think someone mentioned in chat the other night that even Quickbitcoins takes several hours to process the transactions and send coins. Does anyone know if this is true?

In any case, I'm looking forward to the show tonight and hope it's a good night for the performer.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Tuxavant on June 11, 2012, 03:30:37 AM
relevant: http://www.reddit.com/r/GirlsGoneBitcoin/comments/uvl90/wanted_video_tutorial_pays_minimum_155_btc/


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Bitcoin Oz on June 11, 2012, 11:05:32 AM
In person bitcoin exchanging would be awesome if you could do it with naked girls

Anybody want to invest in a brothel in Australia ?  :D


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Tuxavant on June 11, 2012, 12:12:17 PM
I've visited a few brothels around vegas to promote Bitcoin... The local managers seem interested, but its very difficult to get the good information upstream to the owners. Everything is a scam to them.

But in light of recent developments with camming... it may be worth another visit to them. While the girls are waiting around for clients, they could be online on their cams.

Pahrump, here I come!


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: gweedo on June 11, 2012, 08:04:33 PM
I've visited a few brothels around vegas to promote Bitcoin... The local managers seem interested, but its very difficult to get the good information upstream to the owners. Everything is a scam to them.

But in light of recent developments with camming... it may be worth another visit to them. While the girls are waiting around for clients, they could be online on their cams.

Pahrump, here I come!

I would love to see that that convo...

Quote
Madam: can we help you?
Tux: Yes have you heard of bitcoins the p2p digital crypto-currency
Madam: No and we are not interested.
Tux: Ok how much for the blonde whore?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: MagnaGen on June 11, 2012, 08:14:43 PM
I've visited a few brothels around vegas to promote Bitcoin... The local managers seem interested, but its very difficult to get the good information upstream to the owners. Everything is a scam to them.

But in light of recent developments with camming... it may be worth another visit to them. While the girls are waiting around for clients, they could be online on their cams.

Pahrump, here I come!

lol just visiting hmm? ;P


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on June 11, 2012, 08:21:33 PM
I've visited a few brothels around vegas to promote Bitcoin... The local managers seem interested, but its very difficult to get the good information upstream to the owners. Everything is a scam to them.

But in light of recent developments with camming... it may be worth another visit to them. While the girls are waiting around for clients, they could be online on their cams.

Pahrump, here I come!

I would love to see that that convo...

Quote
Madam: can we help you?
Tux: Yes have you heard of bitcoins the p2p digital crypto-currency
Madam: No and we are not interested.
Tux: Ok how much for the blonde whore?

Madam: 10 BTC


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on June 11, 2012, 08:57:38 PM
Live show by a couple (MF) at www.cam4btc.com right now!

http://www.reddit.com/r/GirlsGoneBitcoin/comments/uwl9a/couple_mf_going_to_be_on_cam4btccom_in_2mins/


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Gabi on June 11, 2012, 09:05:53 PM
Wow very nice


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Bitcoin Oz on June 12, 2012, 01:23:40 AM
It would be nice to have email notifications when a show is happening :)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: giszmo on June 12, 2012, 01:57:47 AM
It would be nice to have email notifications when a show is happening :)

not going to happen prior to verified accounts. else the leaked emails will soon all be receiving newsletters.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: FreeMoney on June 12, 2012, 02:16:43 AM
It would be nice to have email notifications when a show is happening :)

not going to happen prior to verified accounts. else the leaked emails will soon all be receiving newsletters.

RSS feed maybe?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: giszmo on June 12, 2012, 02:34:17 AM
It would be nice to have email notifications when a show is happening :)

not going to happen prior to verified accounts. else the leaked emails will soon all be receiving newsletters.

RSS feed maybe?
+like


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: IveBeenBit on June 12, 2012, 02:46:01 AM
There's a show on in 15 minutes from now, BTW. Please subscribed to this feed thread for future announcements.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Bitcoin Oz on June 12, 2012, 02:47:33 AM
It would be nice to have email notifications when a show is happening :)

not going to happen prior to verified accounts. else the leaked emails will soon all be receiving newsletters.

RSS feed maybe?

That works too.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on June 12, 2012, 05:56:29 AM
There is a Twitter account with hardly any followers which I use to announce a show if/when I see it. Far from perfect but similar to the above: https://twitter.com/#!/Cam4BTC


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: giszmo on June 12, 2012, 01:46:26 PM
There is a Twitter account with hardly any followers which I use to announce a show if/when I see it. Far from perfect but similar to the above: https://twitter.com/#!/Cam4BTC

Very far from perfect indeed. Twitter discloses whom I am following and while I guess you wouldn't mind this network effect, I somehow doubt that porn related stuff is easy to promote like that.

RSS-Feed is easy to implement although I know most people wouldn't use an RSS feed. (Actually technically I love RSS as subscriptions are managed by the protocol and nobody can subscribe me to another million of feeds but I don't use it myself :( )


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: gweedo on June 12, 2012, 01:55:07 PM
It would be nice to have email notifications when a show is happening :)

not going to happen prior to verified accounts. else the leaked emails will soon all be receiving newsletters.

RSS feed maybe?

That works too.

RSS feed be great!


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on June 12, 2012, 10:10:12 PM
Lol I remember back when Twitter was just starting I thought it would never catch on because it is basically the same as RSS (to me). Boy was I wrong  :D

Anyway, if i have time I'll look into it but you can also follow a twitter feed anonymously (just don't follow the account). All this will probably only be useful after I automate the process anyway but that is non-trivial to do because the server side I have available is not that sophisticated (Just LUA script) and encoding my credentials in the client is a security risk.

Finally there is a planned broadcast in 5 hours by 'AsiaB' (I could not find any more info on Reddit). Go check it out! (while I am sound asleep)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: gweedo on June 12, 2012, 10:28:28 PM
Lol I remember back when Twitter was just starting I thought it would never catch on because it is basically the same as RSS (to me). Boy was I wrong  :D

Anyway, if i have time I'll look into it but you can also follow a twitter feed anonymously (just don't follow the account). All this will probably only be useful after I automate the process anyway but that is non-trivial to do because the server side I have available is not that sophisticated (Just LUA script) and encoding my credentials in the client is a security risk.

Finally there is a planned broadcast in 5 hours by 'AsiaB' (I could not find any more info on Reddit). Go check it out! (while I am sound asleep)

I mean we can sub to an RSS feed of twitter which is located at https://api.twitter.com/1/statuses/user_timeline.rss?screen_name=cam4btc (https://api.twitter.com/1/statuses/user_timeline.rss?screen_name=cam4btc) but it be nice for a dedicated rss feed from the site so we can get it get the times right and stuff like that.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: FreeMoney on June 13, 2012, 03:20:07 AM
Show on now. Good quality video, usually it skips a ton for me.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: gweedo on June 13, 2012, 04:48:09 AM
it is over now :( she will be back on at 10pm CST


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on June 13, 2012, 04:16:37 PM
Lol I remember back when Twitter was just starting I thought it would never catch on because it is basically the same as RSS (to me). Boy was I wrong  :D

Anyway, if i have time I'll look into it but you can also follow a twitter feed anonymously (just don't follow the account). All this will probably only be useful after I automate the process anyway but that is non-trivial to do because the server side I have available is not that sophisticated (Just LUA script) and encoding my credentials in the client is a security risk.

Finally there is a planned broadcast in 5 hours by 'AsiaB' (I could not find any more info on Reddit). Go check it out! (while I am sound asleep)

I mean we can sub to an RSS feed of twitter which is located at https://api.twitter.com/1/statuses/user_timeline.rss?screen_name=cam4btc (https://api.twitter.com/1/statuses/user_timeline.rss?screen_name=cam4btc) but it be nice for a dedicated rss feed from the site so we can get it get the times right and stuff like that.

Didn't know that functionality. Can you explain to me why that is insufficient?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: gweedo on June 13, 2012, 04:34:11 PM
Lol I remember back when Twitter was just starting I thought it would never catch on because it is basically the same as RSS (to me). Boy was I wrong  :D

Anyway, if i have time I'll look into it but you can also follow a twitter feed anonymously (just don't follow the account). All this will probably only be useful after I automate the process anyway but that is non-trivial to do because the server side I have available is not that sophisticated (Just LUA script) and encoding my credentials in the client is a security risk.

Finally there is a planned broadcast in 5 hours by 'AsiaB' (I could not find any more info on Reddit). Go check it out! (while I am sound asleep)

I mean we can sub to an RSS feed of twitter which is located at https://api.twitter.com/1/statuses/user_timeline.rss?screen_name=cam4btc (https://api.twitter.com/1/statuses/user_timeline.rss?screen_name=cam4btc) but it be nice for a dedicated rss feed from the site so we can get it get the times right and stuff like that.

Didn't know that functionality. Can you explain to me why that is insufficient?

think about all the functionality you can do with rss feeds, any announcements can be sent thru them. Also using GET variables you can string urls like cam4btc.com/rss?alert=5m&timezone=+8 would give me an alert 5 mins before the next schedule event also all times would be in your timezone or

cam4btc.com/rss?mutenonscheduled=1 so all events on the site that are not scheduled can be muted and so many features could be create I know I could list about 100 more uses.

plus you can link directly to the channels, also maybe you can add a feature where no matter what the room's name, you can link to a channel thru a broadcasters name that would nice to have


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Jan on June 14, 2012, 01:35:25 AM
Just give me a URL that gives me the current schedule, so I can check it out on my phone.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: bitlizard on June 16, 2012, 02:29:07 AM
live show right now


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: FreeMoney on June 16, 2012, 05:02:58 AM
Here's a thought.

Make it so that if you type something like "+1.1" (make that invisible I think) and then in the next minute or so a donation of 1.1 comes in it says "SoandSo donates 1.1BTC"


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on June 16, 2012, 08:46:42 PM
I like that last idea a lot and will definitely implement it.

I must admit though it might take a while as I am really busy in these two weeks total I am back home before I leave for a 3+ weeks vacation. I thought I would have some time to work on the site but the amount of work I have on my plate atm is larger than I anticipated. So, sorry guys, I hope the current functionality will suffice for now  :-\


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: gweedo on June 16, 2012, 09:07:52 PM
I think the rss feed is alot more important than that, plus if you implement freemoney's feature, do it so only the broadcaster can see it. Cause one thing I hate on the site is when you donate and people just keep asking you to donate. It is annoying and somes I don't even donate cause of the freeloaders keep begging. Especially if your the only one donating.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: FreeMoney on June 16, 2012, 11:33:42 PM
I think the rss feed is alot more important than that, plus if you implement freemoney's feature, do it so only the broadcaster can see it. Cause one thing I hate on the site is when you donate and people just keep asking you to donate. It is annoying and somes I don't even donate cause of the freeloaders keep begging. Especially if your the only one donating.

It is totally optional on the part of the sender to say into chat "+1.1" before sending the 1.1.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: gweedo on June 17, 2012, 02:01:47 AM
I think the rss feed is alot more important than that, plus if you implement freemoney's feature, do it so only the broadcaster can see it. Cause one thing I hate on the site is when you donate and people just keep asking you to donate. It is annoying and somes I don't even donate cause of the freeloaders keep begging. Especially if your the only one donating.

It is totally optional on the part of the sender to say into chat "+1.1" before sending the 1.1.

I got that part but sometimes I want to tell the broadcaster and not the whole room, and this could be a way to solve that


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: FreeMoney on June 17, 2012, 11:13:58 AM
I think the rss feed is alot more important than that, plus if you implement freemoney's feature, do it so only the broadcaster can see it. Cause one thing I hate on the site is when you donate and people just keep asking you to donate. It is annoying and somes I don't even donate cause of the freeloaders keep begging. Especially if your the only one donating.

It is totally optional on the part of the sender to say into chat "+1.1" before sending the 1.1.

I got that part but sometimes I want to tell the broadcaster and not the whole room, and this could be a way to solve that

Oh sorry, I get it. I thought you just didn't want people to know. That makes sense, maybe "++1.1" for broadcaster only or something.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on June 21, 2012, 11:09:01 PM
I quickly wrapped up a Mobile version of the site to broadcast (I disabled viewing because it looked like crap lol, I need to redo the scaling but will be quite easy). I got a request for this on the site and when I checked it out I tried to quickly get something working.

Please be aware this is very very alpha as porting involved disabling quite some stuff I don't have time to redo now. Enjoy and please report your experience http://cam4btc.com/Main.air


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Jan on June 22, 2012, 01:12:51 AM
I quickly wrapped up a Mobile version of the site to broadcast (I disabled viewing because it looked like crap lol, I need to redo the scaling but will be quite easy). I got a request for this on the site and when I checked it out I tried to quickly get something working.

Please be aware this is very very alpha as porting involved disabling quite some stuff I don't have time to redo now. Enjoy and please report your experience http://cam4btc.com/Main.air
Doesn't work on an iPhone.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: gweedo on June 22, 2012, 02:30:36 AM
I quickly wrapped up a Mobile version of the site to broadcast (I disabled viewing because it looked like crap lol, I need to redo the scaling but will be quite easy). I got a request for this on the site and when I checked it out I tried to quickly get something working.

Please be aware this is very very alpha as porting involved disabling quite some stuff I don't have time to redo now. Enjoy and please report your experience http://cam4btc.com/Main.air
Doesn't work on an iPhone.

it is flash and an air app so yea it will not work on the iphone js


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on June 22, 2012, 07:23:43 AM
It should work on a iPhone too as it's an air app (only flash player is not supported on iOS). I am only certain I allowed camera and microphone on Android though. I tested on both emulators and it seems to work, but it's not weird if it doesn't ;)

What kind of behavior do you experience?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: gweedo on June 22, 2012, 04:10:08 PM
It should work on a iPhone too as it's an air app (only flash player is not supported on iOS). I am only certain I allowed camera and microphone on Android though. I tested on both emulators and it seems to work, but it's not weird if it doesn't ;)

What kind of behavior do you experience?

Air isn't support on Iphone there isn't even an app to make it possible, not even on a jailbreak iphone, what your thinking of there is a way of converting AIR to a native iphone app but that is a adobe tool.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on June 22, 2012, 04:26:07 PM
Okay I'll check later. In development mode I tested it on several emulators (iPhone4, iPad, HTC andorid and another Android). And I exported the project to air while enabling the air for Androis, iOS and BB. Let me see what I did wrong.

Did anyone try on Android or BlackBerry?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: IveBeenBit on June 22, 2012, 05:19:43 PM
Okay I'll check later. In development mode I tested it on several emulators (iPhone4, iPad, HTC andorid and another Android). And I exported the project to air while enabling the air for Androis, iOS and BB. Let me see what I did wrong.

Did anyone try on Android or BlackBerry?

Installed Air on my droid phone, then went to the URL you gave and still got a bunch of gibberish.

On a lark, I went to the URL on my PC and saw that it was a zip file. For some reason my phone was looking at the URL and displaying the binary file as text.

Anyways, so then I added Winzip to my droid phone, unzipped it on my phone, tried to run the .swf file and got an error saying I didn't have the correct application.

Then I unzipped the file onto my computer, recreated the zip file's directory structure (manually cuz I had to) and copied all the files over. Still could not get the SWF file to run.

This is weird because I have Adobe play and flash both installed on my phone.

I am not all technical and crap when it comes to my phone. I was just trying shit to see if anything would work. After 30 or 40 minutes of screwing with it, I gave up.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on June 22, 2012, 05:35:03 PM
Oh I'm sorry for wasting your time I have never tried to install an air application on a mobile device and reckoned it would be the same as on a pc. On a pc (if you have the air player installed) it is as easy as double clicking the air file and it will automatically install.

BTW: Unzipping the air file is definitely not the right way to go, I have packaged it in an air wrapper for the phone to be able to run it, if you take it appart it won't work at all.

Well I did some Googling and I think I know why it didn't work for you, you need to allow the installation of apps from unknown sources (ME! :P) on your phone before it will install it

Quote

End users of your app can install the AIR runtime and AIR applications using the normal application and distribution mechanism for their device.

On Android, for example, users can install applications from the Android Market. Or, if they have allowed the installation of apps from unknown sources in the Application settings, users can install an app by clicking a link on a web page, or by copying the application package to their device and opening it. If a user attempts to install an Android app, but doesn’t have the AIR runtime installed yet, then they will be automatically directed to the Market where they can install the runtime.

On iOS, there are two ways to distribute applications to end users. The primary distribution channel is the Apple App Store. You can also use ad hoc distribution to allow a limited number of users to install your application without going though the App Store.

See http://help.adobe.com/en_US/air/build/WSfffb011ac560372f-5d0f4f25128cc9cd0cb-7ff6.html for more information

So the steps to be taken are (for Android):

1) Go to application settings and allow the installation of apps from "unknown" sources
2) Download the Main.air file
3) Open the Main.air file (if you don't have the air run-time it should automatically redirect you, if this doesn't work, download and install it yourself)

FYI: I don't have licenses (which cost money) for any app store so i won't be able to distribute it that way. (App stores are retarded imo anyway)



Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: gweedo on June 22, 2012, 06:00:19 PM
no it is a wate of time to try get it to work on iphone, also why don't you convert the air app to a native apk for android cause for android you can just host your own apk and have people install that way it would be easier


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on June 22, 2012, 06:02:36 PM
Did you click the link? It explain everything there (source is Adobe, all Mobile platforms that are supported are discussed including Android and iOS).

I don't have the time to re-engineer everything on a new platform. I might do that sometime in the future but this


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: gweedo on June 22, 2012, 07:26:13 PM
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/air/articles/packaging-air-apps-ios.html (http://www.adobe.com/devnet/air/articles/packaging-air-apps-ios.html)

we need a self signed IPA, just an air file is no good


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Gabi on June 22, 2012, 08:19:54 PM
So there is a Dragonfly show soon. Sorry but it's too late for me


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on June 24, 2012, 06:37:55 PM
Okay this http://cam4btc.com/Main.apk will work for Android only (IvebeenBit tested it for me, thank you :)). There are a lot of limitations (but it does work):

* I cannot throw alerts so I cannot notify the user when something goes wrong
* Scheduling is disabled
* IveBeenBit had trouble fitting everything on his screen (my emulator is fine though)
* IveBeenBit could not use the chat (my emulator is fine though)
* Broadcasting only

Note that this is quickly ported and could contain some bugs. Tomorrow I'll leave for my holiday so other platforms will have to wait a bit :)

Enjoy, shows out in the field could be really awesome ;)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Jan on June 24, 2012, 07:27:30 PM
Please provide a URL that shows the schedule using plain old HTML.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: gweedo on June 24, 2012, 07:34:32 PM
Please provide a URL that shows the schedule using plain old HTML.

If he is going to do that, he might as well make the RSS feed of the schedule they would take the same amount of time using a php RSS library http://simplepie.org/ (http://simplepie.org/)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on June 24, 2012, 07:39:39 PM
I would have done this already if it were simple. The Schedule is stored in a very simple SQLite DB and I am working on a server with nothing installed (just a webserver and the rendez-vous server and its dependencies (LUA/SSL/SQLite for LUA)).

So if any of you know of a simple way to extract the data from the SQLite DB dynamically and make it available in HTML/RSS/Plain Text I am all ears and will get on it when I get back. Otherwise I'll need to install something (likely PHP) which is quite heavyweight for the intended purpose.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: gweedo on June 24, 2012, 07:58:00 PM
This is the best Idea i can get is install sqlite3 and create a bash script to output it to rss, probably you have to put it on a cron for every hour or so


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on June 24, 2012, 08:05:50 PM
Sqlite3 is installed. The format of the db is as follows:

assert(con:execute("Create TABLE IF NOT exists scheduledShows(id INTEGER PRIMARY KEY AUTOINCREMENT, performer varchar(255), showName varchar(255), estimatedDuration INTEGER, startTime INTEGER)"))
With startTime as the number of seconds since 1970 (milliseconds/1000 because otherwise it would choke the SQLite db which wold not return the correct value).

I have no experience with writing and scheduling bash scripts under Linux. Do you (or anyone else here)? Otherwise I'll figure it out. Thanks for the idea anyway :)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: gweedo on June 24, 2012, 08:39:13 PM
https://gist.github.com/2984812 (https://gist.github.com/2984812)
this will output it to html that is all i got for now I have to work on it later but for something quick

and it would work like this

Code:
scheduleToHtml.sh -db <db filename>


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on June 24, 2012, 09:01:02 PM
I needed to change the second line to:

Code:
if [ "$db" = "$1" ]

but it ran. it didn't create a "schedule.html" in the directory I ran it though and also not in my root directory. Where can I look for the file? lol


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: gweedo on June 24, 2012, 09:14:57 PM
https://gist.github.com/2984812 (https://gist.github.com/2984812)

try that it should work


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on June 24, 2012, 09:23:15 PM
sqlite3: Error: too many options: "html"


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: gweedo on June 24, 2012, 09:26:19 PM
https://gist.github.com/2984812 (https://gist.github.com/2984812)

I think i fix the error try it again


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on June 24, 2012, 09:32:50 PM
Still not it:

sqlite3: Error: too many options: ".output"
Use -help for a list of options.

I used the help function and try to fix it myself (the dot-commands are not listed) but was unable to get it working. Here is the help info:

root@cam4btc:/var/www# sqlite3 -help
Usage: sqlite3 [OPTIONS] FILENAME [SQL]
FILENAME is the name of an SQLite database. A new database is created
if the file does not previously exist.
OPTIONS include:
   -help                show this message
   -init filename       read/process named file
   -echo                print commands before execution
   -[no]header          turn headers on or off
   -bail                stop after hitting an error
   -interactive         force interactive I/O
   -batch               force batch I/O
   -column              set output mode to 'column'
   -csv                 set output mode to 'csv'
   -html                set output mode to HTML
   -line                set output mode to 'line'
   -list                set output mode to 'list'
   -separator 'x'       set output field separator (|)
   -stats               print memory stats before each finalize
   -nullvalue 'text'    set text string for NULL values
   -version             show SQLite version


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: gweedo on June 24, 2012, 09:56:16 PM
Remember the dot commands are for scripting those commands are for opening a SQLite3 shell, I will look and test later, what OS? So I can create a VM


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on June 24, 2012, 10:05:05 PM
Debian x86_64. But you take your time. I'll go to bed soon and am leaving tomorrow in the morning. I'll install the script in three weeks when I return (and you managed to get it working) :)

Thanks a lot for helping and talk to you soon!


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: IveBeenBit on July 15, 2012, 09:28:14 PM
This site has been pretty quiet since Dragonfly's week long cam marathon ended. We finally have another girl on the schedule though 4 hours from now.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Gabi on July 15, 2012, 10:19:18 PM
Too late for me


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: gweedo on July 15, 2012, 10:35:48 PM
I am actually going to be popping on for this girl, I am interested hope to see you guys there.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Tuxavant on July 16, 2012, 09:37:13 PM
I think you mean "popping off", right?  ;D


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: HostFat on July 21, 2012, 05:21:55 PM
Can you also add a twitter account?
So everytime someone start a show it will automatically tweet about it :)

Example: there is a show right know and none know about it.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on July 21, 2012, 05:28:13 PM
Heya, thanks for the suggestion (and notification of the show!). There already is a Twitter account ( https://twitter.com/Cam4BTC ) but I can only Tweet manually atm. It would indeed be a cool feature.

Gweedo also sent me the script for creating a HTML page representation of the current schedule. I'll get that running asap but I have been really really busy since I got back midweek  (sorry Gweedo but thanks on the script again! :P).

How has everyone been?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: HostFat on July 21, 2012, 05:34:49 PM
Try to put also bitcoin word in the tweet, because it will be seen on the bitcoin stream.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on July 21, 2012, 05:37:40 PM
Okay good idea I didn't think of that


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: HostFat on July 21, 2012, 05:39:40 PM
I can't believe that I'm helping porn performer.
Few years ago I never thought of doing such a thing :P


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Technomage on July 21, 2012, 05:47:54 PM
I wish great success for this site. You are a pioneer. I've checked this out a couple of times and that preview looks like I will have to check the site out a couple of times more. ;)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: gweedo on July 21, 2012, 05:49:15 PM
Heya, thanks for the suggestion (and notification of the show!). There already is a Twitter account ( https://twitter.com/Cam4BTC ) but I can only Tweet manually atm. It would indeed be a cool feature.

Gweedo also sent me the script for creating a HTML page representation of the current schedule. I'll get that running asap but I have been really really busy since I got back midweek  (sorry Gweedo but thanks on the script again! :P).

How has everyone been?

yo anytime, i got ya

Can't you make it tweet when a show starts as like a trigger? and only if the cam is on so doesn't become spam


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: meanig on July 21, 2012, 05:52:59 PM
The pair on now are cam virgins  :o

Log on to see something special  :D


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: HostFat on July 21, 2012, 06:04:13 PM
Is there a way so that performers can record their own show and see themself after?
It can be useful to improve them-self ;)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on July 21, 2012, 08:27:37 PM
Well, I did record this particular show myself (I went away for dinner) so i could send it to them if I had their contact details.

Recording streams in flash is difficult because there are no per-existing solutions at all. The only thing Adobe provides is a stream recording possibility for server side applications through their platform. But such a solution is 1. server side (cam4btc is completely p2p) and 2. paid.

Installing camtasia and recording is however pretty straightforward :)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Tuxavant on July 23, 2012, 02:29:58 PM
wow, great looking couple! Sorry I missed this one!


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Fiyasko on July 23, 2012, 03:56:25 PM
Well, I did record this particular show myself (I went away for dinner) so i could send it to them if I had their contact details.

Recording streams in flash is difficult because there are no per-existing solutions at all. The only thing Adobe provides is a stream recording possibility for server side applications through their platform. But such a solution is 1. server side (cam4btc is completely p2p) and 2. paid.

Installing camtasia and recording is however pretty straightforward :)

People should never Record a live cam unless its from thier lover :\


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: gweedo on July 23, 2012, 05:51:32 PM
People should never Record a live cam unless its from thier lover :\

you do know once it is being broadcast it is public domain unless you copyrighted it before


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Dansker on July 23, 2012, 05:54:37 PM
People should never Record a live cam unless its from thier lover :\

you do know once it is being broadcast it is public domain unless you copyrighted it before

I think he was referring to foreign concepts such as class, tact and ettiquette.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: gweedo on July 23, 2012, 05:57:42 PM
People should never Record a live cam unless its from thier lover :\

you do know once it is being broadcast it is public domain unless you copyrighted it before

I think he was referring to foreign concepts such as class, tact and ettiquette.

and I am referring to the law of where I live so that trumps ettiquette, honestly if people are going to bitch about recording then don't use the site simple as that, people record get over it


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on July 23, 2012, 06:28:07 PM
Hi I welcome this discussion and was struggling with myself as well.

Firstly I recorded it for educational purposes only (REALLY!  : ::) ). I had to go and wanted to see later if everything went fine which it did. I saw the performers thought I took a portion of their earnings. Some of the viewers said it was impossible and later on the Bitcoin client they used showed the payment. I also saw they were having a bit of trouble juggling the camera while having sex and I saw here in this topic that it might be a good idea to give the performers access to the video so they can improve this next time. I liked that idea, just didn't know how to contact them, and saved the video for that purpose.

Now fast forward to the discussion concerning the ethics of people recording the video. To be honest I'm really struggling with this. On the one hand it seems completely classless. On the other hand it is really simple for people to do so one can assume people will do it.There certainly is no way  (short of closing the site) I can do to stop it. So me (the admin) not doing it could just hide the fact that everyone else does. Going to the other extreme I could understand that performers would dislike someone recording and making these available somewhere. Still, there would be nothing I could do to stop this as well (as goes for every cam site btw).

So thoughts? How should I deal with this?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: giszmo on July 23, 2012, 06:39:25 PM
There is nothing you can do about it technologically. There is not even the slightest chance any slightly educated performer could assume to be protected from landing on youporn or any other site. You should provide the legal framework though to allow the performers to get the video taken off other sites for example by allowing to embed a copyright remark on the stream or anything similar and by educating your performers.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: apetersson on July 23, 2012, 06:49:53 PM
first. embed a watermark in the stream. also, put in an option to automatically upload everything to coinDL and let the cammer set the price. that way, if somehow the stream gets "leaked" potential users will have a very low-barrier method of purchasing additional content.

maybe combine with an online video editor to set begin, end times?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: bitlizard on July 23, 2012, 07:14:52 PM
first. embed a watermark in the stream. also, put in an option to automatically upload everything to coinDL and let the cammer set the price. that way, if somehow the stream gets "leaked" potential users will have a very low-barrier method of purchasing additional content.

maybe combine with an online video editor to set begin, end times?

Not sure if coindl would host adult content but that is a really good idea. Contributor could get paid again and again.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: gweedo on July 23, 2012, 07:17:50 PM
first. embed a watermark in the stream. also, put in an option to automatically upload everything to coinDL and let the cammer set the price. that way, if somehow the stream gets "leaked" potential users will have a very low-barrier method of purchasing additional content.

maybe combine with an online video editor to set begin, end times?

Not sure if coindl would host adult content but that is a really good idea. Contributor could get paid again and again.

I think wachtwoord can do this but I think it should be limited to some users that he knows that are of age js


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Fiyasko on July 24, 2012, 02:30:47 PM
People should never Record a live cam unless its from thier lover :\

you do know once it is being broadcast it is public domain unless you copyrighted it before

I think he was referring to foreign concepts such as class, tact and ettiquette.

and I am referring to the law of where I live so that trumps ettiquette, honestly if people are going to bitch about recording then don't use the site simple as that, people record get over it
Someone got mad.
I am not bitching, Nor complaining or whining. And the fact that such a simple statement that i had placed created a conversation within the thread helps to show that what i said Matters.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: gweedo on July 24, 2012, 05:20:52 PM
People should never Record a live cam unless its from thier lover :\

you do know once it is being broadcast it is public domain unless you copyrighted it before

I think he was referring to foreign concepts such as class, tact and ettiquette.

and I am referring to the law of where I live so that trumps ettiquette, honestly if people are going to bitch about recording then don't use the site simple as that, people record get over it
Someone got mad.
I am not bitching, Nor complaining or whining. And the fact that such a simple statement that i had placed created a conversation within the thread helps to show that what i said Matters.


I was just saying to people in general, but yea it is part of the site that naturally gets ask, I think that goes with any broadcast platform.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Dansker on July 24, 2012, 06:07:50 PM
and I am referring to the law of where I live so that trumps ettiquette, honestly if people are going to bitch about recording then don't use the site simple as that, people record get over it

That is one of the silliest statements I have read in a while.

The law doesn't ban being a dick towards people, and it shouldn't. Decent humans being can regulate their interactions themselves through ettiquette, tact, morals etc. and have no need for regulation from the law. This reserves the law for those people who are unable to regulate themselves and go far out of order.

The law does not regulate tact, ettiquette etc. that much is true, but that does not mean that one trumps the other, it's simply different means of enforcement: Courts/police or social rejection.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: bitlizard on July 24, 2012, 06:22:11 PM
and I am referring to the law of where I live so that trumps ettiquette, honestly if people are going to bitch about recording then don't use the site simple as that, people record get over it

That is one of the silliest statements I have read in a while.

The law doesn't ban being a dick towards people, and it shouldn't. Decent humans being can regulate their interactions themselves through ettiquette, tact, morals etc. and have no need for regulation from the law. This reserves the law for those people who are unable to regulate themselves and go far out of order.

The law does not regulate tact, ettiquette etc. that much is true, but that does not mean that one trumps the other, it's simply different means of enforcement: Courts/police or social rejection.

WTF have you guys done to this thread?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Dansker on July 24, 2012, 06:32:17 PM
Sorry about that.

Tits: Discuss!


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: gweedo on July 24, 2012, 06:48:22 PM
and I am referring to the law of where I live so that trumps ettiquette, honestly if people are going to bitch about recording then don't use the site simple as that, people record get over it

That is one of the silliest statements I have read in a while.

The law doesn't ban being a dick towards people, and it shouldn't. Decent humans being can regulate their interactions themselves through ettiquette, tact, morals etc. and have no need for regulation from the law. This reserves the law for those people who are unable to regulate themselves and go far out of order.

The law does not regulate tact, ettiquette etc. that much is true, but that does not mean that one trumps the other, it's simply different means of enforcement: Courts/police or social rejection.

I am just meaning if you are too scared about being recored then don't use the site, that is all I was trying to say

Go on with the tits...


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on July 24, 2012, 07:04:25 PM
Titties! Show them to me - Rodney Carrington (http://"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3rj7TlzeRs")


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Spekulatius on July 24, 2012, 07:20:49 PM
http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/1480/unbenanntclm.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/825/unbenanntclm.png/)

Someones online


P.S.: Why dont I have sound?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: gweedo on July 24, 2012, 07:23:29 PM
cause she don't have sound I guess LOL I don't have sound either so it is probably cause she doesn't have a mic or something


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Spekulatius on July 24, 2012, 07:25:43 PM
OK, also "she" is actually a pre recorded clip downloaded from somewhere in a loop.

Nearly fell for it. ;)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: gweedo on July 24, 2012, 07:29:01 PM
OK, also "she" is actually a pre recorded clip downloaded from somewhere in a loop.

Nearly fell for it. ;)

IDC i am not going to send any btcs but shit I wil watch the shit out this girl LOL


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on August 12, 2012, 10:33:42 AM
Scheduled show tomorrow by AsiaB (http://"http://www.reddit.com/user/AsiaB"). It is a couple and they messaged me that they already did a show a couple of days ago:

http://www.reddit.com/r/deCrypto/comments/y2aye/couple_show_were_back_again_come_see_us_tomorrow/
http://www.reddit.com/r/GirlsGoneBitcoin/comments/y2an0/back_again_tomorrow_night_8pm_6utc_time_come_see/


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on September 16, 2012, 10:20:47 PM
There is a girl who wants to say hi, come say hi :)

http://cam4btc.com/


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Gabi on September 16, 2012, 10:59:42 PM
Nice girl!


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: greyhawk on September 16, 2012, 11:01:47 PM
Yeah, there go my trolling plans all up in flames.

EDIT: Whoa.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Gabi on September 16, 2012, 11:02:20 PM
She's beautiful


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Gabi on September 16, 2012, 11:28:09 PM
C'mon, go watch her people!


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on October 26, 2012, 04:27:33 PM
Hi,

An "anonymous supporter" has been campaigning for the site (thank mate :)) see: http://www.reddit.com/r/deCrypto/comments/10ss2w/octobernovember_requests_thread/ (OnlineDegen) and one girl has agreed to go on, see http://www.reddit.com/r/deCrypto/comments/123ilf/hi_im_new/ Tuesday at 11pm est. (she also has a Forum account https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=70728).

Since this is plenty advance notice I hope she gets a lot of viewers (I'll be sleeping at 4 am in the morning myself :P)

Oh yeah, I also fixed the donations not being displayed anymore. The blockain.info stopped working when you query it with www.blockain.info so I changed it to blockain.info and everything was fixed :)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: gweedo on October 26, 2012, 04:52:55 PM
I will put this on my calendar! Hope to see more people there. Nice work OnlineDegen!


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: ajareselde on October 27, 2012, 06:30:50 PM
99.9999 % sure this is java drive by (trojan virus/bitcoin wallet stealer)

warned ya


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: gweedo on October 27, 2012, 06:41:05 PM
99.9999 % sure this is java drive by (trojan virus/bitcoin wallet stealer)

warned ya

Actually it isn't java and the developer is very open about that is a form of flash called flex


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Jan on October 27, 2012, 07:45:18 PM
99.9999 % sure this is java drive by (trojan virus/bitcoin wallet stealer)

warned ya

Actually it isn't java and the developer is very open about that is a form of flash called flex
+1


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on October 27, 2012, 10:49:10 PM
As the developer I'd like to confirm this.

If you don't believe it block all java content and go to the site. It will work fine :)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: MPOE-PR on October 28, 2012, 11:29:56 AM
http://www.cam4btc.com/faq.html -> 404 Not Found nginx/0.7.67


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on October 28, 2012, 06:40:26 PM
http://www.cam4btc.com/faq.html -> 404 Not Found nginx/0.7.67

Thanks for reporting. Fixed now.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on October 30, 2012, 06:35:22 PM
"Ninja Nips" lost her electricity due to the hurricane yesterday so she is delaying the show. The tentative new date is this Thursday.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: gweedo on October 30, 2012, 10:13:25 PM
"Ninja Nips" lost her electricity due to the hurricane yesterday so she is delaying the show. The tentative new date is this Thursday.

That is probably smart, I just got my internet back like 2 mins ago, so things are bad


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on October 30, 2012, 11:40:01 PM
I saw the images on TV. Let's just say that this time around there was no exhilaration. Stay safe.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: IveBeenBit on November 01, 2012, 04:22:19 PM
Hi,

An "anonymous supporter" has been campaigning for the site (thank mate :)) see: http://www.reddit.com/r/deCrypto/comments/10ss2w/octobernovember_requests_thread/ (OnlineDegen) and one girl has agreed to go on, see http://www.reddit.com/r/deCrypto/comments/123ilf/hi_im_new/ Tuesday at 11pm est. (she also has a Forum account https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=70728).

Since this is plenty advance notice I hope she gets a lot of viewers (I'll be sleeping at 4 am in the morning myself :P)

Oh yeah, I also fixed the donations not being displayed anymore. The blockain.info stopped working when you query it with www.blockain.info so I changed it to blockain.info and everything was fixed :)

Just a reminder, this girl's debut is tonight at 11:00pm Eastern time (it was rescheduled). She's new, so I hope to see lots of people there ready to spend some bitcoins!


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: wachtwoord on November 01, 2012, 09:42:47 PM
Hi,

An "anonymous supporter" has been campaigning for the site (thank mate :)) see: http://www.reddit.com/r/deCrypto/comments/10ss2w/octobernovember_requests_thread/ (OnlineDegen) and one girl has agreed to go on, see http://www.reddit.com/r/deCrypto/comments/123ilf/hi_im_new/ Tuesday at 11pm est. (she also has a Forum account https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=70728).

Since this is plenty advance notice I hope she gets a lot of viewers (I'll be sleeping at 4 am in the morning myself :P)

Oh yeah, I also fixed the donations not being displayed anymore. The blockain.info stopped working when you query it with www.blockain.info so I changed it to blockain.info and everything was fixed :)

Just a reminder, this girl's debut is tonight at 11:00pm Eastern time (it was rescheduled). She's new, so I hope to see lots of people there ready to spend some bitcoins!

+1 to get some more attention! Enjoy :)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: gweedo on November 02, 2012, 03:08:06 AM
http://cam4btc.com?channel=ninjanips (http://cam4btc.com?channel=ninjanips) she is on


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: panda1 on November 02, 2012, 03:42:34 AM
It's working for me!


Title: NInjaNIps On Cam!!!
Post by: ninjanips on November 02, 2012, 03:59:03 AM
 8) Thank you all for checking out my first cam session!!!!!
 Love you all!


Title: Thanks for Checking Out The Show!
Post by: ninjanips on November 02, 2012, 04:59:03 AM
 8) It was fun!


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: IveBeenBit on November 04, 2012, 05:34:29 PM
Another new girl has announced a show this evening. Her pix are NSFW (http://imgur.com/a/gYgae).

Log on to cam4btc.com and look at the schedule for the specific time.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: gweedo on November 04, 2012, 06:27:08 PM
Another new girl has announced a show this evening. Her pix are NSFW (http://imgur.com/a/gYgae).

Log on to cam4btc.com and look at the schedule for the specific time.

yea she was on the other night she is really cool!


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: Gabi on November 04, 2012, 06:37:17 PM
So it's this night? I mean, night in europe?


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: gweedo on November 04, 2012, 06:41:00 PM
So it's this night? I mean, night in europe?

it is probably in the morning for european people cause she is in the states and it is at night for me


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: IveBeenBit on November 04, 2012, 07:41:40 PM
So it's this night? I mean, night in europe?

Get on cam4btc.com as a "viewer" and then click "view schedule" it will display the show in your local time.

I also find www.timeanddate.com to be useful when converting timezones, but you don't need it if you just hop on cam4btc.com really quick to check the schedule.


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: ninjanips on November 06, 2012, 04:57:33 PM
I'mma be dropping by cam4btc tonight 10pm EST, hope to see you there. http://imgur.com/9QeuQ (http://imgur.com/9QeuQ)


Title: Re: Bitcoin Camming Site
Post by: PinkCoEdGeisha on November 30, 2012, 12:54:49 AM
cam4btc.com show

Friday, 11.30.2012
7 PM, California time

Private shows via Skype are available for those that are interested. :)
add me on Skype: PinkCoEdGeisha
OR Email me at: PinkCoEdGeisha@yahoo.com

Hope to see you there!  :)