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Title: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: ndnh on September 18, 2014, 04:00:14 AM
Do you use a particular strategy while playing dice? or do you use multiple ones?

What is your favourite strategy?

Have you lost your money because of it?

Do you think it is actually a waste of time?

Share your opinions here:


Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: espringe on September 18, 2014, 04:32:26 AM
I tried to martingale on dice.ninja:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/spa/f0lmlb6l9q465kn/cthdmmy8.png

only got two successes in before the fail. However, my martingale is not over, I'm just waiting till my site generates me 16 BTC in profit before I continue. I'll let you know how it goes...


Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: ndnh on September 18, 2014, 04:37:11 AM
I hate martingale because i lost all my bitcoins i had because of it. I had to start from scratch again.
I now use a mix of reverse martingale and other strategies. I don't use autobet currently.  :)

I tried to martingale on dice.ninja:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/spa/f0lmlb6l9q465kn/cthdmmy8.png

only got two successes in before the fail. However, my martingale is not over, I'm just waiting till my site generates me 16 BTC in profit before I continue. I'll let you know how it goes...

16BTC in profit? Wow! Do you use martingale for that too?


Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: ndnh on September 18, 2014, 04:42:34 AM
i tried dice.ninja with 11 bets. 10 losses and 1 win

http://i.gyazo.com/8a8319c8c5488304bd2398b9b3a1596f.png

Then i played again. it is ok now


Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: Iamyourdad on September 18, 2014, 05:29:34 AM
I use martingale with 1/32th or 1/64th of the wallet balance as base Bet :D


Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: chalidore on September 18, 2014, 09:05:11 AM
I have best strategy, I invest into bankroll and wait people with "winning" strategies lose their money.


Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: ndnh on September 18, 2014, 09:12:25 AM
I use martingale with 1/32th or 1/64th of the wallet balance as base Bet :D

As you may already now, you should be able to cover around 20 losses in a row. Otherwise, you may just end up losing everything.


I have best strategy, I invest into bankroll and wait people with "winning" strategies lose their money.

That is a winning strategy. A good one.

I will keep that in mind.   ;D


Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: Iamyourdad on September 18, 2014, 09:25:41 AM
I have best strategy, I invest into bankroll and wait people with "winning" strategies lose their money.

ahh! Best strategy indeed :D :P


Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: edmundduke on September 18, 2014, 09:27:00 AM
Well i heard yelling female genetalia names while rolling attracts greens. Other than that, i got nothing


Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: ndnh on September 18, 2014, 09:31:28 AM
Well i heard yelling female genetalia names while rolling attracts greens. Other than that, i got nothing

Never tried that. Will try it next time.  ;)


Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: xuan87 on September 18, 2014, 09:37:49 AM

I like play with 1,1 payout
i know that was risky
so lose about BTC 0.1  :(


Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: wayshegoes on September 18, 2014, 11:08:40 AM
Basically every dice "strategy" is martingale, or a variation of martingale. Each roll is independent from the other, and each roll loses you 1% of the amount you wager over time. Your expected outcome is negative.

If for example there was an edge in the players favour, you could still bust martingaling whereas you would probably never bust flat betting over enough time.

If a strategy worked nobody would invest. Some people get lucky but in the long run they all lose.


Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: Net5kY on November 22, 2014, 01:41:59 PM
Is there any thread with all strategies in one place?


Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: finnile on November 22, 2014, 01:47:39 PM
Is there any thread with all strategies in one place?

There isn't a strategy that wins more. Its just short term profits. It also depends on what your bankroll is.


Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: madhatter. on November 22, 2014, 02:02:29 PM
My strategy I just follow my instinct. And be sure before you bet that the site is provably fair. Even sites that advertise as provably fair  can still cheat you if you did not change your secret key every roll.


Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: shanem on November 22, 2014, 02:05:39 PM
Martingale is useless in dice games.
Sure you can win now but you will end up giving all your btc eventually.
There will be times where you will lose many times in a row and you will run out of capital or hit the maximum wager limit


Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: Stars on November 22, 2014, 02:09:40 PM
It's simple. Just do as few bets as you possibly can. The fewer bets you do, will increase your chance of profiting.


Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: lili song on November 22, 2014, 02:22:26 PM
It's simple. Just do as few bets as you possibly can. The fewer bets you do, will increase your chance of profiting.

Because of house edge will not let you win for more bets

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=855394.msg9589574#msg9589574


Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: Shogen on November 22, 2014, 02:48:28 PM
My strategy is simple: Set a stop-loss target and a stop-gain target before playing and stop immediately when I hit the target.
It won't help me beat the house, but it guarantee I won't lose more than I should.


Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: pawel7777 on November 22, 2014, 03:11:16 PM
I don't gamble much, but my favourite strategy is betting at around x1.11 and increasing stake x10 on loss. More time efficient than traditional martingale, since ~90% are the winnig bets.

Highest losing streak I've experienced so far is 5.


Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: JLynn171 on November 22, 2014, 03:13:34 PM
the best winning strategy to to play for the goal of entertainment so no matter if you win or lose your btc while gambling you will have gained your original goal...


Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: LOBSTER on November 22, 2014, 03:15:22 PM
There is no winning strategy. The house edge always keeps the casinos bankroll safe in their own hands ;)


Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: pawel7777 on November 22, 2014, 03:32:18 PM
The house edge always keeps the casinos bankroll safe in their own hands ;)

There are plenty of people who have won big. The usual 1% is not that much of advantage. The biggest problem of big winners is they keep coming back for more...


Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: sickhouse on November 22, 2014, 03:54:23 PM
The house edge always keeps the casinos bankroll safe in their own hands ;)

There are plenty of people who have won big. The usual 1% is not that much of advantage. The biggest problem of big winners is they keep coming back for more...
Yes, but that's a lucky % percentage who win more, just like some people lose 50% or more to the house people can also win. It's call variance - there is no strategy that works out in the long run though just get the fk out of there when you have enough :)


Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: TrianglePythagoras on November 22, 2014, 04:12:13 PM
Martingale can work, just don't martingale with a large bet.

also has anybody had luck with x9900?


Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: crazy-pilot on November 22, 2014, 04:25:12 PM
I have best strategy, I invest into bankroll and wait people with "winning" strategies lose their money.
I am pretty sure that you were part of a scam with a fake gambling site LOL (I remember reading a scam accusation against you - and you didn't actually invest in any site's bankroll haha)

The house edge always keeps the casinos bankroll safe in their own hands ;)

There are plenty of people who have won big. The usual 1% is not that much of advantage. The biggest problem of big winners is they keep coming back for more...
On average they will end up loosing over the long run. People who have won big tend to have not played for very long and happened to have a early lucky streak. If they continue to play with similar amounts or withdraw and come back and play with similar sized bets then they would tend to lose over the longer run.

Generally speaking if you want to have a good chance of winning you will need to win early on, however there are many exceptions to this rule ;)


Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: unamis76 on November 22, 2014, 04:42:04 PM
Strategy? Yes. Click on bet high/low a few times and see where it goes, or leave autobot running for hours :D

I have best strategy, I invest into bankroll and wait people with "winning" strategies lose their money.

Haha, indeed, this is the best strategy and the one I use the most!


Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: Rammus on November 23, 2014, 12:18:37 AM
i dont think there is a good strategy, since its based on risk.


Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: tsaroz on November 23, 2014, 01:11:08 AM
I always end up losing my account balance on casino sites. But I have a positive income trend in Sports bet till now.


Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: Renekton on November 23, 2014, 01:52:58 AM
the strategy is to bet what you can lose or afford to lose


Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: alk123 on November 23, 2014, 02:03:40 AM
the strategy is to bet what you can lose or afford to lose
exactly, always bet thinkin you will lose it and u will never feel sorrow


Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: Wardrick on November 23, 2014, 02:08:09 AM
The best strategy is to take all the money you're going to bet and make one bet with it. This is the best odds you'll get.


Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: nothingnew on November 23, 2014, 02:46:41 AM
The best strategy is to take all the money you're going to bet and make one bet with it. This is the best odds you'll get.

There're always limitations on the max bet.


Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: yenzae0215 on November 23, 2014, 03:28:16 AM
The best strategy is to take all the money you're going to bet and make one bet with it. This is the best odds you'll get.

There're always limitations on the max bet.

yeah there is, but just gamble what you can afford  ;)


Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: Wardrick on November 23, 2014, 03:35:37 AM
The best strategy is to take all the money you're going to bet and make one bet with it. This is the best odds you'll get.

There're always limitations on the max bet.

I doubt  you'll be betting tens of thousands of dollars at once which is the area most max bets are in for most of the big sites I believe.


Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: crazy-pilot on November 23, 2014, 04:58:43 AM
The best strategy is to take all the money you're going to bet and make one bet with it. This is the best odds you'll get.
This is kind of like putting all your eggs in one basket. No matter what the odds you are using with your roll there is a chance that you will lose your bet, and if this happens it would not be possible to make up for your "bad luck". It would also prevent you from being able to enjoy gambling for a longer amount of time



Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: sandykho47 on November 23, 2014, 05:49:55 AM
I often use martingale trick  ;D
But, if i use faucet, because martingale trick is risky for long run

OR gamble my money at once  :)


Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: finlon on November 23, 2014, 06:07:06 AM
The best strategy is to take all the money you're going to bet and make one bet with it. This is the best odds you'll get.
If your aim is to make/lose big money then that might work. But if your aim is to have fun gambling, then you need to do other things and try different strategies.


Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: Mobius7 on November 23, 2014, 08:03:51 AM
There is no working strategy for you to overcome the house edge in dice as every roll are independent to each other.


Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: Salmon1989 on November 23, 2014, 08:16:35 AM
The best strategy is to take all the money you're going to bet and make one bet with it. This is the best odds you'll get.

To be honest, I believed that was the case for a very long time, until I have discussed the matter with doog in this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=639787.msg7176968#msg7176968) and this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=639787.msg7178496#msg7178496).


Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: freedomno1 on November 23, 2014, 08:29:36 AM
Do you use a particular strategy while playing dice? or do you use multiple ones?

What is your favourite strategy?

Have you lost your money because of it?

Do you think it is actually a waste of time?

Share your opinions here:

I'm not sure if its really a strategy or just a preference
But I like playing with a 12X setting
If I win try a 12X again then switch to a 2X for a while

Not sure if its that much of a different strategy though but it works for me at times.


Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: Anon39 on November 23, 2014, 09:59:09 AM
i think that martingale does not work  ;)
sooner or later you will lose all  your money


Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: Shogen on November 23, 2014, 10:46:45 AM
i think that martingale does not work  ;)
sooner or later you will lose all  your money

Of course it doesn't work, or every dice sites will go bankrupt and will be forced to shut down. ;D


Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: TrianglePythagoras on November 23, 2014, 01:27:56 PM
i think that martingale does not work  ;)
sooner or later you will lose all  your money

Of course it doesn't work, or every dice sites will go bankrupt and will be forced to shut down. ;D

Exactly, just like in primedice's 2.0 autobet features which were removed in 3.0


Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: krishatnet on November 23, 2014, 02:08:39 PM
No strategy works in gambling it all depends on luck.


Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: wongcilik on November 23, 2014, 04:06:49 PM
No strategy works in gambling it all depends on luck.

little strategy , more lucky, and controlled greedy .. that's all


Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: Yuki1988 on November 23, 2014, 04:25:33 PM
No strategy works in gambling it all depends on luck.

Depends on the game you play. Poker and BJ involve some skills, but dice and roulette involve only luck.


Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: vpsmmoforall on November 23, 2014, 04:29:33 PM
1.5 x bet... win 2mil.. but lose 10mil.. lol


Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: wongcilik on November 23, 2014, 05:26:46 PM
999dice got a +1000 btc profit only 1years ... damn


Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: ShetKid on November 23, 2014, 06:42:50 PM
I usually play on multiple methods.

I play on 99x on primedice, I play on 66%, and I play on 90%

I've won several times on 99x, I have my method to it :P


Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: thompete on November 23, 2014, 07:08:41 PM
I usually play on multiple methods.

I play on 99x on primedice, I play on 66%, and I play on 90%

I've won several times on 99x, I have my method to it :P

Well, thats not exactly a strategy, but its about the chance you are betting at. What strategy do you use is the question here  :)


Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: DirectDice on November 23, 2014, 07:09:14 PM
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Direct Dice is the ONLY dice game where you can actually profit in the long term and I will explain to you why :

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Direct Dice also features 10 BTC Jackpot, on the house.

While betting with no house edge you are freerolling on the jackpot !

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Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: dsly on November 23, 2014, 07:16:15 PM
What exactly do you mean by that for a limited time gamblers have an edge?


Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: Wardrick on November 23, 2014, 07:34:12 PM
The best strategy is to take all the money you're going to bet and make one bet with it. This is the best odds you'll get.

To be honest, I believed that was the case for a very long time, until I have discussed the matter with doog in this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=639787.msg7176968#msg7176968) and this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=639787.msg7178496#msg7178496).

If that all works out to be true then that's pretty cool. I don't see how you can get different odds though when you're betting to receive the same amount. For example, if you want to get to the number 5 from 2, no matter what way you got there you'd always have to arrive exactly on 5, and changing the multiplication even the slightest would make it below or over 5. I've never had to figure out the math because the places I bet don't even come close to going down to those decimal spots when they let you pick odds. I think cryptocurrency is the only place this could ever happen, everywhere else it would be a huge hassle.


Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: DirectDice on November 23, 2014, 07:47:34 PM
What exactly do you mean by that for a limited time gamblers have an edge?

For a limited time frequent bettors have an edge, because they earn back all the built-in house edge (0.99%) and are actually freerolling on the 10 BTC jackpot.

This is explained in more details in Direct Dice thread : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=743577.0

What it means is that if you bet frequently, you can play for fun without losing in the long run and if you get lucky you can win the jackpot.

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Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: ticoti on November 23, 2014, 07:50:44 PM
I have tried many types of strategies, but it is obvously a matter of luck
which is true is that you have to have a good amount of bitcoin you can afford to lose if you want to recover from losses


Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: mezmerizer9 on November 23, 2014, 10:15:15 PM
I have tried many types of strategies, but it is obvously a matter of luck
which is true is that you have to have a good amount of bitcoin you can afford to lose if you want to recover from losses

Apsolutely, no matter what stratery you use, if you do not use it carefully, you will end up losing everything.


Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: jarrick on November 24, 2014, 10:29:03 AM
I have tried many types of strategies, but it is obvously a matter of luck
which is true is that you have to have a good amount of bitcoin you can afford to lose if you want to recover from losses

Apsolutely, no matter what stratery you use, if you do not use it carefully, you will end up losing everything.
Yes. I agree that much. But there is no perfect strategy. You should know the timing to play. Always keep playing on winning stage. And stop when it seems you are on losing.


Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: JLynn171 on November 24, 2014, 05:11:52 PM
I usually play on multiple methods.

I play on 99x on primedice, I play on 66%, and I play on 90%

I've won several times on 99x, I have my method to it :P
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I agree you have to go for the big wins to ever  walk away a winner 999x 99x my normal is either 5x or 10x but goiing for the big wins is only way to win big


Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: adaseb on November 24, 2014, 05:17:45 PM
There is no secret. The edge is on the house.

I would invest my BTC in many of these Dice sites but the chance of them getting hacked is not worth the small gains.


Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: kuusj98 on November 24, 2014, 06:05:22 PM
There is no secret. The edge is on the house.

I would invest my BTC in many of these Dice sites but the chance of them getting hacked is not worth the small gains.
And even when you get a small gain, how do you think these gambling sites get theyr income? Right, by letting people lose.
And even when they win something, big chance they will gamble the amount won. It is all about money and nothing is fair in this game.


Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: BitCoinNutJob on November 24, 2014, 07:01:30 PM

just went with 66% win chance with 200% increase on loss martingaling and got up high, its all luck though.


Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: pureelite on November 24, 2014, 07:02:28 PM
cant find a good strategy

every is a loss for me ;(


Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: magicmexican on November 24, 2014, 07:04:58 PM


Do you think it is actually a waste of time?



Yes, it is.

The only way to get a profit from the dice/roulette strategy is to scam someone into buying it from you.


Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: BitCoinNutJob on November 24, 2014, 07:05:15 PM
cant find a good strategy

every is a loss for me ;(

well best strategy if you have to play if having a small amount of bets, more you play the more the odds catch up with you.


Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: wongcilik on November 26, 2014, 10:29:54 AM
all in ? why not :D
learning the patern
too risky but yeaahh i like that


Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: Bobblehead Pete on November 26, 2014, 10:57:50 AM
Do you use a particular strategy while playing dice? or do you use multiple ones?

What is your favourite strategy?

Have you lost your money because of it?

Do you think it is actually a waste of time?

Share your opinions here:

I lost every deposit I made on PD.
I used autobet.
I even rolled only 100 bits for 1000 rolls and still I lost everything.
Can you imagine that?


Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: pawel7777 on November 26, 2014, 11:48:17 AM

I lost every deposit I made on PD.
I used autobet.
I even rolled only 100 bits for 1000 rolls and still I lost everything.
Can you imagine that?

Yes


Title: Re: DICE STRATEGY - Discussions
Post by: CryptoDigitals on November 26, 2014, 12:15:13 PM
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