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Economy => Speculation => Topic started by: AnonymousEconomist on September 18, 2014, 08:49:37 AM



Title: Do you deserve a $2,000 bitcoin?
Post by: AnonymousEconomist on September 18, 2014, 08:49:37 AM
No. You don't.

I have observed the crypto community over the last couple of years, and I have seen the overall attitude go from optimistic, to complete and utter greed and selfishness.

I used to consistently recommend that people look into bitcoin. Now I don't even want to be associated with it. The most disgusting individuals are involved with bitcoin and the altcoin community. I went from loving the people of this community and helping where I could, to just frowning at scams, beggars, and "bears," who are actually just people who sold too early and must fud so that they don't feel as bad for missing out.

I honestly hope bitcoin prices completely collapse in front of this greedy and selfish community. Bitcoin was created to fight this mentality of the top 1%.

It ended up re-creating it. Thank you for your time.


Title: Re: Do you deserve a $2,000 bitcoin?
Post by: NeuroticFish on September 18, 2014, 08:54:55 AM
Harsh words, but actually it's nicely said.

But you forget something:
The core of the community may have not change. But the community expanded a lot. Maybe too much.
Bitcoin "business" is not regulated and a lot of .. too young people are involved. The obvious result is a lot of scams.
But yeah, as (mainly) a dogecoiner, I am still badly impressed of the greed and selfishness around here....


Title: Re: Do you deserve a $2,000 bitcoin?
Post by: Hunyadi on September 18, 2014, 09:12:43 AM
This is speculation forum. There are other sub-forums which are not filled by greed etc.



Title: Re: Do you deserve a $2,000 bitcoin?
Post by: Ibian on September 18, 2014, 09:13:16 AM
Bullish.


Title: Re: Do you deserve a $2,000 bitcoin?
Post by: spiderbrain on September 18, 2014, 09:14:02 AM
Don't mistake the bitcoin community for the idiots posting on here all the time. They are a very small and rabid subset.


Title: Re: Do you deserve a $2,000 bitcoin?
Post by: bitleif on September 18, 2014, 09:53:42 AM
No. You don't.

Why do you think what anyone "deserves" has anything to do with where the price will go?


Title: Re: Do you deserve a $2,000 bitcoin?
Post by: nottoorich on September 18, 2014, 10:26:18 AM
We deserve a 10,000$ bitcoin, not a 2,000$. I'm waiting for it.


Title: Re: Do you deserve a $2,000 bitcoin?
Post by: Buffer Overflow on September 18, 2014, 10:31:16 AM
No. You don't.

I agree.
I deserve $50,000 per coin. LOL :D


Title: Re: Do you deserve a $2,000 bitcoin?
Post by: blatchcorn on September 18, 2014, 10:49:23 AM
Go live in China if you hate capitalism


Title: Re: Do you deserve a $2,000 bitcoin?
Post by: Forbet on September 18, 2014, 10:52:09 AM
Are you guys angsty 16 year olds who bought $20 worth of bitcoin at the ATH or something? What the fuck am I reading right now?


Title: Re: Do you deserve a $2,000 bitcoin?
Post by: mrkavasaki on September 18, 2014, 11:00:00 AM
Go live in China if you hate capitalism

if you hate capitalism than china is the definitely the wrong place ::)


Title: Re: Do you deserve a $2,000 bitcoin?
Post by: raid_n on September 18, 2014, 11:04:22 AM
No. You don't.

I have observed the crypto community over the last couple of years, and I have seen the overall attitude go from optimistic, to complete and utter greed and selfishness.

I used to consistently recommend that people look into bitcoin. Now I don't even want to be associated with it. The most disgusting individuals are involved with bitcoin and the altcoin community. I went from loving the people of this community and helping where I could, to just frowning at scams, beggars, and "bears," who are actually just people who sold too early and must fud so that they don't feel as bad for missing out.

I honestly hope bitcoin prices completely collapse in front of this greedy and selfish community. Bitcoin was created to fight this mentality of the top 1%.

It ended up re-creating it. Thank you for your time.

Looking at your post history makes me think you are no different


Title: Re: Do you deserve a $2,000 bitcoin?
Post by: Wilhelm on September 18, 2014, 11:12:30 AM
Greed is a natural part of being human.


Title: Re: Do you deserve a $2,000 bitcoin?
Post by: Dalmar on September 18, 2014, 11:16:47 AM
This bear market is cleaning up the excess greed that was prevalent earlier this year. That is what bear markets are for, to slap some sense back into people.


Title: Re: Do you deserve a $2,000 bitcoin?
Post by: thresher on September 18, 2014, 11:19:13 AM
So you want everyone to lose money, in hopes that it will somehow hurt the richest people?  ::)
Good luck with that.  Let me know how many of the 1 percent, you hate so much, are going to lose anything if bitcoin collapses.  


Title: Re: Do you deserve a $2,000 bitcoin?
Post by: fonzie on September 18, 2014, 11:22:11 AM
OP, which scamcoin have you bought into?  :D

Experienced a 95% decline? But i´m sure they had solid devs, promising future, real world use, unique protocol....


Title: Re: Do you deserve a $2,000 bitcoin?
Post by: Wilhelm on September 18, 2014, 11:42:54 AM
This bear market is cleaning up the excess greed that was prevalent earlier this year. That is what bear markets are for, to slap some sense back into people.

I do agree with this post. Sometimes I do think about making bear statements just to get bitcoin rid of the weak hands quicker  :P


Title: Re: Do you deserve a $2,000 bitcoin?
Post by: spazzdla on September 18, 2014, 12:46:30 PM
The community exploded like 10 fold....


Title: Re: Do you deserve a $2,000 bitcoin?
Post by: Ultros on September 18, 2014, 12:56:26 PM
ITT OP discover he doesn't like humanity and want it to suffer because of a few chosen individuals.


Title: Re: Do you deserve a $2,000 bitcoin?
Post by: piramida on September 18, 2014, 01:04:19 PM
Bitcoin was created to fight this mentality of the top 1%.

In your dreams? Where from you are taking these imaginary intentions? No, bitcoin was not created in a hippy movement to make the world fair or change humans for better. It was just created to make truly digital financial relations possible. Human greed, selfishness, and overall stupidity are here with us to stay, bitcoin or not. Take any three people put them on an island, in a year one is rich and two are serving him. That's life.


Title: Re: Do you deserve a $2,000 bitcoin?
Post by: Tzupy on September 18, 2014, 02:00:07 PM
This bear market is cleaning up the excess greed that was prevalent earlier this year. That is what bear markets are for, to slap some sense back into people.

It would be nice if it would be true. However, I believe that once this bear market will be over, the bulltards will post 'to da moon' at each small price increase.


Title: Re: Do you deserve a $2,000 bitcoin?
Post by: AnonymousEconomist on September 18, 2014, 02:08:25 PM
Bitcoin was created to fight this mentality of the top 1%.

In your dreams? Where from you are taking these imaginary intentions? No, bitcoin was not created in a hippy movement to make the world fair or change humans for better. It was just created to make truly digital financial relations possible. Human greed, selfishness, and overall stupidity are here with us to stay, bitcoin or not. Take any three people put them on an island, in a year one is rich and two are serving him. That's life.

Lol. Idiot.


Title: Re: Do you deserve a $2,000 bitcoin?
Post by: Beliathon on September 18, 2014, 03:57:53 PM
No. You don't.
Deserve? LOL.

What we deserve isn't relevant. This is mathematics playing itself out, child.


Title: Re: Do you deserve a $2,000 bitcoin?
Post by: piramida on September 18, 2014, 04:20:14 PM
Bitcoin was created to fight this mentality of the top 1%.

In your dreams? Where from you are taking these imaginary intentions? No, bitcoin was not created in a hippy movement to make the world fair or change humans for better. It was just created to make truly digital financial relations possible. Human greed, selfishness, and overall stupidity are here with us to stay, bitcoin or not. Take any three people put them on an island, in a year one is rich and two are serving him. That's life.

Lol. Idiot.

You didn't have to stress it, that much I figured from your initial post.


Title: Re: Do you deserve a $2,000 bitcoin?
Post by: riiiising on September 18, 2014, 04:58:40 PM
Yes. And I will get it!


Title: Re: Do you deserve a $2,000 bitcoin?
Post by: Capt Drake on September 18, 2014, 08:16:35 PM

In your dreams? Where from you are taking these imaginary intentions? No, bitcoin was not created in a hippy movement to make the world fair or change humans for better. It was just created to make truly digital financial relations possible. Human greed, selfishness, and overall stupidity are here with us to stay, bitcoin or not. Take any three people put them on an island, in a year one is rich and two are serving him. That's life.


Nicely said sir.

 ;D


Title: Re: Do you deserve a $2,000 bitcoin?
Post by: Wary on September 19, 2014, 03:45:30 AM
AnonymousEconomist you are?
An economist that expects people not to be selfish and greedy is like geographer that believes in flat Earth.


Title: Re: Do you deserve a $2,000 bitcoin?
Post by: hodlmybtc on September 19, 2014, 03:58:39 AM
A lucky few already got their 3200 Euro bitcoins on BTC-e recently ;)


Title: Re: Do you deserve a $2,000 bitcoin?
Post by: cbeast on September 19, 2014, 04:10:45 AM
Bitcoin was created to fight this mentality of the top 1%.

In your dreams? Where from you are taking these imaginary intentions? No, bitcoin was not created in a hippy movement to make the world fair or change humans for better. It was just created to make truly digital financial relations possible. Human greed, selfishness, and overall stupidity are here with us to stay, bitcoin or not. Take any three people put them on an island, in a year one is rich and two are serving him. That's life.
I partly agree with both assertions. Bitcoin can teach people that being fair is a better way to prosper than politicking and aggregating weapons of violence. After all, you can't destroy math. The island of three hypothesis is baseless. Social animals have shown that selflessness is universal. Capitalism is not used by animals and is not necessary for humans. Bitcoin strikes the balance that allows the usefulness of capitalism without rewarding greed and aggregation of power.


Title: Re: Do you deserve a $2,000 bitcoin?
Post by: piramida on September 19, 2014, 05:09:07 AM
Bitcoin was created to fight this mentality of the top 1%.

In your dreams? Where from you are taking these imaginary intentions? No, bitcoin was not created in a hippy movement to make the world fair or change humans for better. It was just created to make truly digital financial relations possible. Human greed, selfishness, and overall stupidity are here with us to stay, bitcoin or not. Take any three people put them on an island, in a year one is rich and two are serving him. That's life.
I partly agree with both assertions. Bitcoin can teach people that being fair is a better way to prosper than politicking and aggregating weapons of violence. After all, you can't destroy math. The island of three hypothesis is baseless. Social animals have shown that selflessness is universal. Capitalism is not used by animals and is not necessary for humans. Bitcoin strikes the balance that allows the usefulness of capitalism without rewarding greed and aggregation of power.

Capitalism is not used by animals of course, they don't know trade. But hierarchy of power usually is, and that's what 1% is about. Every society has it's 1% of those, who figured out the rules of the game better. In capitalist society, it's those who aggregate most wealth. In communist society, it's those who got closest to the leader. In a monkey society, it's the alpha male who fucks all females and weaker males just for a change ;) There are exceptions of course, usually caused by a harsh living conditions, when you either unite or die, but bitcoin sure is not such an apocalypse for humanity.

I do like the idea of a perfect society but I don't think that having a fair way to pay and store wealth will change this basic fact of nature, that every life form's basic instinct is to dominate other life forms. Bitcoin will most probably change our society for better - but people who seek power will have power no matter what. There will be politicians and violent wars funded by zombied TV watchers, these are not going to change.


Title: Re: Do you deserve a $2,000 bitcoin?
Post by: AnonymousEconomist on September 19, 2014, 05:23:57 AM
No. You don't.
Deserve? LOL.

What we deserve isn't relevant. This is mathematics playing itself out, child.

Mathematics has nothing to do with the price of bitcoin, idiotard.



Title: Re: Do you deserve a $2,000 bitcoin?
Post by: Cluster2k on September 19, 2014, 06:31:44 AM
Bitcoin was created to fight this mentality of the top 1%.

'Satoshi Nakamoto' has been silent for years on the topic.  Chances are he / she / they are a bit disgusted with what has happened to bitcoin during that time.  If, as alleged, bitcoin was created to fight the 1%, it has just been replaced with a new 1%.  Most bitcoins are concentrated in very few hands.  They got those bitcoins when a CPU could make a few per week and the cost was cents per bitcoin.  Now the new 1% look upon the rest of the population who must spend $1k on a miner that will over its entire lifetime produce maybe 0.5 bitcoins.


Title: Re: Do you deserve a $2,000 bitcoin?
Post by: BTCfan1 on September 19, 2014, 06:37:55 AM
This is speculation forum. There are other sub-forums which are not filled by greed etc.



strong this.


Title: Re: Do you deserve a $2,000 bitcoin?
Post by: Wilhelm on September 19, 2014, 07:56:33 AM
A lucky few already got their 3200 Euro bitcoins on BTC-e recently ;)

Some might even have opened their short order on 3200 EUR :D


Title: Re: Do you deserve a $2,000 bitcoin?
Post by: cbeast on September 19, 2014, 07:59:18 AM
Bitcoin was created to fight this mentality of the top 1%.

In your dreams? Where from you are taking these imaginary intentions? No, bitcoin was not created in a hippy movement to make the world fair or change humans for better. It was just created to make truly digital financial relations possible. Human greed, selfishness, and overall stupidity are here with us to stay, bitcoin or not. Take any three people put them on an island, in a year one is rich and two are serving him. That's life.
I partly agree with both assertions. Bitcoin can teach people that being fair is a better way to prosper than politicking and aggregating weapons of violence. After all, you can't destroy math. The island of three hypothesis is baseless. Social animals have shown that selflessness is universal. Capitalism is not used by animals and is not necessary for humans. Bitcoin strikes the balance that allows the usefulness of capitalism without rewarding greed and aggregation of power.

Capitalism is not used by animals of course, they don't know trade. But hierarchy of power usually is, and that's what 1% is about. Every society has it's 1% of those, who figured out the rules of the game better. In capitalist society, it's those who aggregate most wealth. In communist society, it's those who got closest to the leader. In a monkey society, it's the alpha male who fucks all females and weaker males just for a change ;) There are exceptions of course, usually caused by a harsh living conditions, when you either unite or die, but bitcoin sure is not such an apocalypse for humanity.

I do like the idea of a perfect society but I don't think that having a fair way to pay and store wealth will change this basic fact of nature, that every life form's basic instinct is to dominate other life forms. Bitcoin will most probably change our society for better - but people who seek power will have power no matter what. There will be politicians and violent wars funded by zombied TV watchers, these are not going to change.
Well then bitcoin and open transactions will allow you to act as naturally as you want.


Title: Re: Do you deserve a $2,000 bitcoin?
Post by: Ibian on September 19, 2014, 08:36:24 PM
Bitcoin was created to fight this mentality of the top 1%.

'Satoshi Nakamoto' has been silent for years on the topic.  Chances are he / she / they are a bit disgusted with what has happened to bitcoin during that time.  If, as alleged, bitcoin was created to fight the 1%, it has just been replaced with a new 1%.  Most bitcoins are concentrated in very few hands.  They got those bitcoins when a CPU could make a few per week and the cost was cents per bitcoin.  Now the new 1% look upon the rest of the population who must spend $1k on a miner that will over its entire lifetime produce maybe 0.5 bitcoins.
Satoshi is not an idiot. There will always be a 1%. Bitcoin is designed to be a store of value, currency, and means of transfer. Not to fight human nature.