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Economy => Marketplace => Topic started by: giantdragon on May 01, 2012, 02:28:48 PM



Title: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on May 01, 2012, 02:28:48 PM
Hello!

I would like to announce my new service CoinURL.com where you can earn Bitcoins by shortening and publishing links.

Advertising scheme has changed to the standard one, like Google Ads and Facebook use.

Brief description how the service works.

1. The advertiser buys some number of impressions for chosen CPM price.
2. The publisher posts his shortened links to some place in the Internet.
3. When a user clicks the link, all ads participate in selection procedure. Ads with higher CPM have better chances to be shown. So this advertiser will get faster completion of his campaign.
4. Clicks are being analyzed to detect cheating. Legitimate are paid, impressions from fake clicks are completely refunded to the advertiser.

Service already has enough functionality you need to start working with it and I am planning to add some extra features in the not distant future:
- geo and language targeting [made]
- filtering of ads that being shown for each link (adult content, politics, religion etc) [made]
- detailed reports for the advertisers [made]
- detailed stats for the link publishers [made]
- charts [made]
- Bulk API [made]
- Browser extensions [made]
- Privacy settings, possibility to permanently delete logs [made]
- Password protection of links [made]
- SSL encryption [made]
- Named links on subdomains: bit, go, in, jump, link, me, my, n, name, now, to [made]
- any other features that you will request...

You can see an example: cur.lv/1 (http://goo.gl/Ndlgb), link's stats are available using plus sign, e.g. cur.lv/1+ (http://goo.gl/HYtT2)

Currently you will receive 100% from funds paid by advertisers, no commission apply!
Join our affiliate program and receive 25% from the price of ads which were placed by user, registered with your referral link.

Short alias domain added: http://cur.lv (http://cur.lv)

P.S. I have tested the scripts before launching the website, but I need your help to test it deeper. If you have found a bug, please don't be angry and report it to me. Also I will be glad if you correct mistakes in the texts, because English is not my native language.

GiantDragon
CoinURL.com (http://CoinURL.com) founder and operator


Title: Re: CoinURL.com: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: Matoking on May 01, 2012, 05:18:03 PM
I can load the site using a proxy, but not without. What's the problem?


Title: Re: CoinURL.com: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: mcorlett on May 01, 2012, 05:26:06 PM
What steps have been taken to combat exploits and bots?


Title: Re: CoinURL.com: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: chmod755 on May 01, 2012, 05:30:29 PM
I don't think your website will be successful this way, 'cause it sucks when you have to register & remember a username for a small service like this.
I think it would be better, if you just make another field for the bitcoin address & it should be possible to use the same address for multiple links and adjust if you want to get paid weekly / monthly or just manually withdraw it... (→ http://anonymousads.com/ uses the bitcoin address to identify users)


Title: Re: CoinURL.com: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on May 01, 2012, 05:38:17 PM
What steps have been taken to combat exploits and bots?
Currently IP and cookies. Blacklist with known proxies and TOR nodes will be added today.
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'cause it sucks when you have to register & remember a username for a small service like this.
I think it would be better, if you just make another field for the bitcoin address & it should be possible to use the same address for multiple links
You can use your Bitcoin receiving address as username. When you login and create links, all of them are being attached to your account.


Title: Re: CoinURL.com: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: ingrownpocket on May 01, 2012, 05:39:21 PM
I don't think your website will be successful this way, 'cause it sucks when you have to register & remember a username for a small service like this.
I think it would be better, if you just make another field for the bitcoin address & it should be possible to use the same address for multiple links and adjust if you want to get paid weekly / monthly or just manually withdraw it... (→ http://anonymousads.com/ uses the bitcoin address to identify users)

I don't think so.
People want to see statistics of their links, payments, withdrawals, etc...

Try using LastPass if you don't like to memorise things  :)


Title: Re: CoinURL.com: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on May 01, 2012, 06:08:56 PM
Blacklist with known proxy IPs added and will be periodically updated.


Title: Re: CoinURL.com: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: ingrownpocket on May 01, 2012, 06:36:01 PM
I don't think so.
People want to see statistics of their links, payments, withdrawals, etc...

You can still show them that information without using a login, like Eligius does:

http://eligius.st/~artefact2/7/1AkqxLJn8H6Cg5VAaYijzj7hQUSeM2LJ3r

Also, its a nice website but maybe you should use a different domain name, something shorter, also the coin part makes it obvious the person sharing the link is earning money from it and makes it seem a bit spammy (that's just my opinion though).

That's a public profile. Personaly, I don't like other people can see my stats.


Title: Re: CoinURL.com: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on May 01, 2012, 06:38:23 PM
Also, its a nice website but maybe you should use a different domain name, something shorter, also the coin part makes it obvious the person sharing the link is earning money from it and makes it seem a bit spammy (that's just my opinion though).
Adf.ly does not uses any words about money making in it's username, but almost all users knows what it is! By the way, I don't force users to wait before following the links, therefore I think there will be no negative reaction as it is with adfly.

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That's a public profile. Personaly, I don't like other people can see my stats.
I agree with you. Also unified accounts create less load on the server.


Title: Re: CoinURL.com: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: HostFat on May 01, 2012, 06:44:22 PM
You did it! ;D
This is a great service!

Anyway, as Blazr said, you should find a shorter domain :)


Title: Re: CoinURL.com: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on May 01, 2012, 06:49:57 PM
Anyway, as Blazr said, you should find a shorter domain :)
I am considering registering a domain in zone like .cc or .ly in the future.
BTW, is 10 chars domain really so long?


Title: Re: CoinURL.com: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: Blazr on May 01, 2012, 06:55:08 PM
BTW, is 10 chars domain really so long?

10 chars is pretty big for a URL shortening service (the idea is to shorten the url as much as possible). You could also get a 3 or 4 letter .in domain (instead of .cc or .ly) for under $10, less restrictions to register them too.


Title: Re: CoinURL.com: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: k on May 01, 2012, 06:55:28 PM
Anyway, as Blazr said, you should find a shorter domain :)
I am considering registering a domain in zone like .cc or .ly in the future.
BTW, is 10 chars domain really so long?

I guess one of the major use cases for these link shorteners is to share links on Twitter. So when you are restricted to 140 characters ever one counts.


Title: Re: CoinURL.com: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: HostFat on May 01, 2012, 07:24:42 PM
Another feature request is API.
So twitter/forum plug-ins/mods will be able to make shorter address automatically :)


Title: Re: CoinURL.com: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on May 01, 2012, 08:12:11 PM
You could also get a 3 or 4 letter .in domain (instead of .cc or .ly) for under $10, less restrictions to register them too.
Suggest me good registrar who offer so low prices. And preferable with Bitcoin payments.


Title: Re: CoinURL.com: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: ingrownpocket on May 01, 2012, 08:19:29 PM
You could also get a 3 or 4 letter .in domain (instead of .cc or .ly) for under $10, less restrictions to register them too.
Suggest me good registrar who offer so low prices. And preferable with Bitcoin payments.

You can try this: http://www.namecheap.com/contest/3-million-offer.aspx (http://www.namecheap.com/contest/3-million-offer.aspx)


Title: Re: CoinURL.com: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: Serenata on May 01, 2012, 09:22:36 PM
I tried to shorten a couple of URLs and when I used the short URL to open the site, I was sent to dailybitcoins.... Is there a problem or do I have to register/login to test the short links?


Title: Re: CoinURL.com: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: Blazr on May 01, 2012, 09:25:41 PM
I tried to shorten a couple of URLs and when I used the short URL to open the site, I was sent to dailybitcoins.... Is there a problem or do I have to register/login to test the short links?

you need to press Skip Ad in the top right corner.

You should make the Skip Ad button bigger as well


Title: Re: CoinURL.com: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: Serenata on May 01, 2012, 09:36:10 PM
Oh >.<
Not very user-friendly... I was expecting something like a bar at the top with the ad, not a full page ad. How on earth would a noob user (like me for example :D ) know what to do, instead of just closing the page altogether.

P.S. Thanks Blazr for the tip.


Title: Re: CoinURL.com: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: HostFat on May 01, 2012, 09:46:13 PM
There are other service like this one, example: adf.ly
They are common used around the web ;)

Anyway, as Blazr suggested it just need some little changes.

@giantdragon
Will you also add a little timer like adf.ly has ? ( ex: 5 seconds )





Title: Re: CoinURL.com: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on May 01, 2012, 10:02:14 PM
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How on earth would a noob user (like me for example Cheesy ) know what to do, instead of just closing the page altogether.
I just have made "Skip ad" button more noticeable.

Will you also add a little timer like adf.ly has ? ( ex: 5 seconds )
It is bad idea! Many users are annoyed that they are forced to wait and associate adf.ly with a spam in their mind.


Title: Re: CoinURL.com: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: HostFat on May 01, 2012, 10:11:14 PM
It is bad idea! Many users are annoyed that they are forced to wait and associate adf.ly with a spam in their mind.
Ok, but do you think that it will be a bad idea to "add" a timer so that there will be both timer and button? They will be able to skip instantly if the want.
If you will add a timer, you should also add a "stop timer" button, so that the user is able to give a more deeper look to the advertised website. ( 10/15 seconds will be better than 5 if you like the idea of the "stop timer button" )


Title: Re: CoinURL.com: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on May 02, 2012, 01:18:57 AM
They will be able to skip instantly if the want.
I don't understand, why the timer is need if it can be stopped and ad skipped? I see no difference with current "Skip ad" button I have already in the top frame.

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If you will add a timer, you should also add a "stop timer" button, so that the user is able to give a more deeper look to the advertised website. ( 10/15 seconds will be better than 5 if you like the idea of the "stop timer button" )
There is no automatic redirect to the target URL. If a user is interested in viewing advertiser's page he can click link "Visit <advertiser's website name>" instead of "Skip ad".


Title: Re: CoinURL.com: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: HostFat on May 02, 2012, 06:02:40 AM
I think that people don't like to "move the mouse and make additional clicks", this is the main reason for the timer.
They clicked a link to go somewhere, but they they will see another website where they aren't "probably" not interested.
The timer is a good thing to not force them to do addition clicks..


Title: Re: CoinURL.com: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: blabla125 on May 02, 2012, 12:52:51 PM
to make it abit shorter why dount u use cURL as coinurl? just a suggestion


Title: Re: CoinURL.com: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on May 02, 2012, 01:25:49 PM
I think that people don't like to "move the mouse and make additional clicks", this is the main reason for the timer.
They clicked a link to go somewhere, but they they will see another website where they aren't "probably" not interested.
The timer is a good thing to not force them to do addition clicks..
Enabled auto redirect after 10 seconds.

P.S. Just registered a short alias domain for the service. Soon I will make an announce.


Title: Re: CoinURL.com: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: HostFat on May 02, 2012, 01:45:07 PM
Great! I really like this way :D


Title: Re: CoinURL.com: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: Blazr on May 02, 2012, 02:00:30 PM
Wow. A big improvement.

You should also allow advertiser to pay per thousands impressions, rather than pay per day, and also pay publishers per thousand impressions too, its much easier to work with like that. With the current system, if I pay 1BTC how do I know how many views I'll get?


Title: Re: CoinURL.com: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on May 02, 2012, 02:13:59 PM
You should also allow advertiser to pay per thousands impressions, rather than pay per day, and also pay publishers per thousand impressions too, its much easier to work with like that.
It is just alternative payment scheme for advertising, many services now use it (e.g. AnonymousAds, BitcoinAdvertisers). I this it is more fair than fixed CPM or CPC, and it is harder to cheat (less fake clicks).

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With the current system, if I pay 1BTC how do I know how many views I'll get?
Stats are available. You can view expected number of impressions for the concrete amount.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on May 02, 2012, 02:47:04 PM
Just registered a short domain: cur.lv (http://cur.lv)

Existing links works fine, just change http://coinurl.com/AAA to https://bitcointalk.org/annoyance.php


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: HostFat on May 02, 2012, 02:55:26 PM
Good! ;D

Will you also add API?


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on May 02, 2012, 02:57:33 PM
Good! ;D

Will you also add API?
Of course I will implement it when have enough time.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on May 03, 2012, 02:29:06 AM
Added charts for link stats. An example (https://bitcointalk.org/annoyance.php+).

HostFat, what API do you want?


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: HostFat on May 03, 2012, 06:36:34 AM
I think that you can try to clone the api of adf.ly so that it will be possible to use these instructions just by changing the url:
- http://www.squidoo.com/how-to-make-money-with-adf-ly-and-twitter-all-day-every-day
- http://pastebin.com/zFB6iUcq


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on May 03, 2012, 01:36:10 PM
Follow us (https://twitter.com/coinurl) on the Twitter!


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on May 04, 2012, 03:15:10 AM
Bulk API introduced. You can automate link shortening!


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: HostFat on May 04, 2012, 03:22:34 PM
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Amount available to withdraw: ฿1.138E-5
Can you make the value more readable? :D


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on May 04, 2012, 03:42:54 PM
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Amount available to withdraw: ฿1.138E-5
Can you make the value more readable? :D
Done.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on May 04, 2012, 05:28:06 PM
Updated stats. Now advertisers can see average cost per impression!


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on May 05, 2012, 03:17:28 AM
Affiliate program introduced. Earn 10% from the price of ads which were placed by user, registered with your referral link!


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on May 06, 2012, 02:38:46 AM
Advertising cost calculator added. You can estimate how much you have to pay to get desired number of impressions.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on May 06, 2012, 02:26:14 PM
Add plus sign to the short URL (e.g. https://bitcointalk.org/annoyance.php+ (https://bitcointalk.org/annoyance.php+)) and you will get QR code.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on May 07, 2012, 12:47:49 AM
Link publishers can filter inappropriate ads (e.g. porn, gambling etc).
Login into your account and set content filtering you want. By default adult material is being blocked.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on May 08, 2012, 02:57:20 AM
Detailed reports for advertisers available now, as well as actual CPM (cost per 1000 impressions).


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: HostFat on May 08, 2012, 03:26:59 PM
Can you add something like automatic advertisement ?
I mean that if the user can set some rules so that if some bitcoins arrive at the deposit address then they will be used instantly for a pre-configured advertisement.

The best is if you can add more deposit addresses, example:
1) 17834h9685jy9d45t097845f78 : adv 1
2) 10v2m5893u2c892mv58w89vb : adv 2
3) 11498v20m589b3m89540489v : nothing

This will make possible to connect more services with your coinurl, and make them all working without touching anything :)
Some services will make bitcoin and advertise themselves on coinurl :D


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: whiskers75 on May 08, 2012, 05:25:09 PM
Great site!


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on May 08, 2012, 06:13:37 PM
Can you add something like automatic advertisement ?
I mean that if the user can set some rules so that if some bitcoins arrive at the deposit address then they will be used instantly for a pre-configured advertisement.

The best is if you can add more deposit addresses, example:
1) 17834h9685jy9d45t097845f78 : adv 1
2) 10v2m5893u2c892mv58w89vb : adv 2
3) 11498v20m589b3m89540489v : nothing

This will make possible to connect more services with your coinurl, and make them all working without touching anything :)
Some services will make bitcoin and advertise themselves on coinurl :D
Watching many thousands of addresses simultaneously at this moment is not possible (while I am using notification service like BitPing or Bitcoinmonitor). In future if my service will grow and I will be able to afford a dedicated server, this feature can be enabled.

As alternative solution I would suggest delayed ads (add a field to specify date/time of advertising start in the "New advertisement" form). Another variant - API interface, which allows activating your ad with GET query.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on May 09, 2012, 02:56:44 AM
You can view aggregated stats about users' location (country) and browser's language (HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE).

These stats available:
for the entire website (http://coinurl.com/stats-global.php);
for each link (an example (http://coinurl.com/1+));
for each advertisement (an example (http://coinurl.com/stats-ad.php?id=18)).


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on May 10, 2012, 01:13:08 AM
Referer stats available for the link publishers.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on May 11, 2012, 02:57:16 AM
Link publishers and advertisers can make stats hidden from other users in the account's "Privacy" section.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on May 11, 2012, 02:34:12 PM
We have introduced extra degree of anonymity. Everyone can permanently delete all logs we have on the server.

Situation like this (http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2012/05/08/twitter-fights-prosecutors-seeking-occupy-protesters-data-without-warrant/) guaranteed will not happen now with your private data!


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: HostFat on May 11, 2012, 02:39:10 PM
The good thing of your service is that while more people will use it for themselves they are also spamming it around, and then more people will know about Bitcoin!
So it's a win-win for everyone :D


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: HostFat on May 11, 2012, 02:41:30 PM
Are you also able to make something like a dynamic page ( because Bitcoin value is quiet dynamic :P ) where you compare the earning of your service with others like adf.ly ?
I mean, with Bitcoin you cut all the paypal/cc fees, so I think that you should be able to give more than them.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on May 11, 2012, 06:54:37 PM
Are you also able to make something like a dynamic page ( because Bitcoin value is quiet dynamic :P ) where you compare the earning of your service with others like adf.ly ?
I mean, with Bitcoin you cut all the paypal/cc fees, so I think that you should be able to give more than them.
I think better would be to allow the users to choose currency apart Bitcoins in which they want to see their earnings (i.e. auto conversion to USD using MtGox rate). This will attract even more users who don't actively use Bitcoin.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on May 12, 2012, 02:07:48 AM
I have updated stats in the profile's main page. Give me suggestions about other aggregated stats you want to see there.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: HostFat on May 13, 2012, 12:09:10 AM
I think better would be to allow the users to choose currency apart Bitcoins in which they want to see their earnings (i.e. auto conversion to USD using MtGox rate). This will attract even more users who don't actively use Bitcoin.
Yeah, it's a good idea :)


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on May 13, 2012, 04:48:26 PM
Geo targeting added. You can choose countries in which you want an advertisement be shown or block some countries (e.g. United States for casinos). If user's country matches with the country which you have specified, your ad will have highest priority to be shown!


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: HostFat on May 14, 2012, 01:15:22 PM
I modified this git so that it works with your service.
You should take it, change icons and publish it on chrome app market :)

https://github.com/HostFat/url-shortener-chrome-extension


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on May 14, 2012, 02:00:13 PM
I modified this git so that it works with your service.
You should take it, change icons and publish it on chrome app market :)

https://github.com/HostFat/url-shortener-chrome-extension
Thank you!
I have never written extensions for Chrome, but it is never late to start!


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on May 14, 2012, 02:02:38 PM
Language targeting available for advertisers! Show your ads only to people who speaks concrete language.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: HostFat on May 14, 2012, 02:31:28 PM
Can you add a way to delete/hide links from the "My links" list?


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on May 14, 2012, 02:55:22 PM
Can you add a way to delete/hide links from the "My links" list?
I will add a pagination soon.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on May 15, 2012, 03:15:32 AM
Pagination added for the links in profile and ad's stats. Other sections will be updated very soon.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: HostFat on May 15, 2012, 12:39:54 PM
here there is the extension for chrome:
https://github.com/downloads/HostFat/url-shortener-chrome-extension/curlext.crx

Anyway, it's still NOT available on the chrome market. I think that you should put it.
I'll probably not support it with other updates.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on May 15, 2012, 12:55:25 PM
Anyway, it's still NOT available on the chrome market. I think that you should put it.
I agree with you and certainly will do this.

BTW, I think Firefox extension is also essential!


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: mcorlett on May 15, 2012, 05:18:31 PM
I'd like to be able to withdraw my remaining balance. Please make this possible.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on May 15, 2012, 05:31:58 PM
I'd like to be able to withdraw my remaining balance. Please make this possible.
Bitcoins deposited for advertising cannot be refunded. This was clearly stated in FAQ, ToS and "Withdraw" section!
You can withdraw only funds that you have earned.

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http://coinurl.com/faq.php (http://coinurl.com/faq.php)
Can I get back funds that were deposited?
You can only withdraw funds that you have earned. Funds that were deposited can be spent exclusively on advertising. This measure is need to protect our service against money laundering, which is required by the law.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: mcorlett on May 15, 2012, 05:35:39 PM
I'd like to be able to withdraw my remaining balance. Please make this possible.
Bitcoins deposited for advertising cannot be refunded. This was clearly stated in FAQ, ToS and "Withdraw" section!
I realize this, but the coins have not been claimed yet, and you could simply bounce the appropriate amount back to the same address, so that's the "money laundering" reason out of the way. I'd like to be a repeat customer, but if you do not allow me to withdraw my current balance, I will have put an ad in for someone else at a discounted rate to forcibly get rid of my remaining balance, and cut all ties with your service. I don't think neither of us want that.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on May 15, 2012, 05:39:23 PM
I'd like to be able to withdraw my remaining balance. Please make this possible.
Bitcoins deposited for advertising cannot be refunded. This was clearly stated in FAQ, ToS and "Withdraw" section!
I realize this, but the coins have not been claimed yet, and you could simply bounce the appropriate amount back to the same address, so that's the "money laundering" reason out of the way. I'd like to be a repeat customer, but if you do not allow me to withdraw my current balance, I will have put an ad in for someone else at a discounted rate to forcibly get rid of my remaining balance, and cut all ties with your service. I don't think neither of us want that.
Sorry, but I cannot make any exceptions. If I would allow this for you, other users could demand the same.

My personal advice for you: never ask exceptions in public places!


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: mcorlett on May 15, 2012, 07:02:49 PM
After a private discussion with giantdragon, and some interesting quotes,
it is like when you buy loaf of bread in the grocery store you cannot claim a refund ;)
I've been forced against my will to spend my remaining balance on purchasing more advertisements.
This is hidden under an unethical and immoral clause:
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Funds that were deposited can be spent exclusively on advertising. This measure is need to protect our service against money laundering, which is required by the law.
There is no law pertaining to regulation of bitcoin money laundering. AML is serious business, but does not apply to Bitcoin. As such, this is clearly an attempt at hiding giantdragon's cheap tactic to increase profits behind some inexistant "law".

I'm baffled, and hope that this does not go unnoticed by the community.

Edit: It should be noted that I'm a paying customer, and will continue to be for the duration of my advertisement. This is not how you treat customers.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on May 15, 2012, 08:08:23 PM
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I'm baffled, and hope that this does not go unnoticed by the community.]I'm baffled, and hope that this does not go unnoticed by the community.
I don't try to hide this condition. It is definitely stated in FAQ and profile page!

mcorlett, it is common business practice to don't allow refunds for money, paid for services. For example, mobile phone operators in Latvia do the same.

I agree, it is unethical to hide it somewhere in the middle of ToS. But I don't understand your concern - when you made a deposit you were warned that these funds must be spent exclusively on the ads and cannot be withdrawn. You agreed and made deposit, but now ask a refund... What a stupid logic!


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: mcorlett on May 15, 2012, 08:11:45 PM
mcorlett, it is common business practice to don't allow refunds for money, paid for services. For example, mobile phone operators in Latvia do the same.
Oh, I'm not asking for a refund for the ad I placed via your service. That deal has been sealed. What I'm asking for is the ability to withdraw the remainder of my balance on your site, the part I didn't spend on advertising. You're denying me that ability.

I'm sorry if you misunderstood me. Sadly, I don't think you did.

But I don't understand your concern - when you made a deposit you were warned that these funds must be spent exclusively on the ads and cannot be withdrawn. You agreed and made deposit, but now ask a refund... What a stupid logic!
It does not say anywhere on the deposit page:
Quote
To make a deposit, send Bitcoins to the following address:
[address]
There is no minimum amount you need to send. Funds will be credited instantly without waiting any confirmations.

In any case, do you have a valid reason for not allowing withdrawals, since I've already disproved your "money laundering" fašade?


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on May 15, 2012, 08:21:17 PM
mcorlett, it is common business practice to don't allow refunds for money, paid for services. For example, mobile phone operators in Latvia do the same.
You're denying me that ability.
When you made a deposit you knew that it is not allowed, but agreed to the terms and conditions. From my side all is honest!


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: mcorlett on May 15, 2012, 08:25:05 PM
mcorlett, it is common business practice to don't allow refunds for money, paid for services. For example, mobile phone operators in Latvia do the same.
You're denying me that ability.
When you made a deposit you knew that it is not allowed, but agreed to the terms and conditions. From my side all is honest!
I did not know this at the time of deposit. It's funny how you just stated that hiding it in ToS jargon was unethical, but are now finding it "honest".

Please address the other questions and concerns in my previous post as well.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on May 15, 2012, 08:31:12 PM
Quote
I did not know this at the time of deposit. It's funny how you just stated that hiding it in ToS jargon was unethical, but are now finding it "honest".
I said it is unethical to state it in hidden form, e.g.
Quote
<Corporation> will not be liable to you (whether under the law of contact, the law of torts or otherwise) in relation to the contents of, or use of, or otherwise in connection with, this website: for any indirect, special or consequential loss; or for any business losses, loss of revenue, income, profits or anticipated savings, loss of contracts or business relationships, loss of reputation or goodwill, or loss or corruption of information or data.

But I still cannot understand what is unclear in the following statement:
Quote
Can I get back funds that were deposited?
You can only withdraw funds that you have earned. Funds that were deposited can be spent exclusively on advertising. This measure is need to protect our service against money laundering, which is required by the law.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: mcorlett on May 15, 2012, 08:37:43 PM
But I still cannot understand what is unclear in the following statement:
Quote
Can I get back funds that were deposited?
You can only withdraw funds that you have earned. Funds that were deposited can be spent exclusively on advertising. This measure is need to protect our service against money laundering, which is required by the law.
Oh, so it's hidden behind the very legally binding FAQ, as mentioned in the Terms of Service - nice!

I'll ask again: now that we've dismantled the money laundering reason, why are you refusing to allow withdrawals?

If you do not act on this, I may very well have to involve the board administration. You are holding my funds hostage.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on May 15, 2012, 08:43:15 PM
Quote from: mcorlett
If you do not act on this, I may very well have to involve the board administration.
It is your right.

Quote from: mcorlett
You are holding my funds hostage.
You have deposited them for advertising and you still can post advertisements. I don't made anything against the contract you agreed (ToS).

P.S. I don't want anymore feed the troll!


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: mcorlett on May 15, 2012, 08:48:00 PM
You've been ignoring this question for a long time now: "Now that we've dismantled the money laundering reason, why are you refusing to allow withdrawals?"

You won't answer because... you don't want to "feed the troll"?


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on May 15, 2012, 09:36:19 PM
You've been ignoring this question for a long time now: "Now that we've dismantled the money laundering reason, why are you refusing to allow withdrawals?"
If I would allow withdrawals of deposited funds it really would turn CoinURL into washing machine! No commissions, no minimal amount... Why not to use for laundering!?


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on May 16, 2012, 02:56:46 AM
Chrome extension available! After installation you will get an element in the context menu, just select link you want to shorten and click "Shorten URL and copy to clipboard". Shortened link will be copied to the clipboard.

Don't forget to set your unique UUID in the extension's options. You can find it in the profile.

This version of extension is in the beta stage, I am planning to upload it to the Chrome Store after some testing.
Right now you can download sources (https://bitcointalk.org/annoyance.php) and install it from Tools -> Extensions -> Load unpacked extensions.

Bug reports and suggestions are welcome!


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: mcorlett on May 16, 2012, 06:03:28 AM
You've been ignoring this question for a long time now: "Now that we've dismantled the money laundering reason, why are you refusing to allow withdrawals?"
If I would allow withdrawals of deposited funds it really would turn CoinURL into washing machine! No commissions, no minimal amount... Why not to use for laundering!?
This is completely made up by you to mask your aforementioned cheap tactics of forcing customers to spend money on your site. You have far too little activity to support money laundering; the odds of getting the same output you sent make this a money launderer's nightmare.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on May 16, 2012, 01:11:07 PM
I want to clarify about withdrawals of referral payments: they can be withdrawn without any limits as well as earnings!


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on May 17, 2012, 02:55:49 AM
Stable version of Google Chrome browser extension now available with extra features added!

To shorten selected text or hyperlink just make right click on it and select "Shorten URL" in the context menu.
To shorten current tab's URL click extension's button located on the right from address bar.
In both cases shortened URL will be automatically copied to the clipboard, or appropriate error message shown.

Visit your profile page to install the extension or download sources.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: Blazr on May 17, 2012, 02:57:27 AM
Stable version of Google Chrome browser extension now available with extra features added!

To shorten selected text or hyperlink just make right click on it and select "Shorten URL" in the context menu.
To shorten current tab's URL click extension's button located on the right from address bar.
In both cases shortened URL will be automatically copied to the clipboard, or appropriate error message shown.

Visit your profile page to install the extension or download sources.


Sounds cool. All you need now is a Firefox version :)


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on May 17, 2012, 12:57:24 PM
All you need now is a Firefox version :)
I am working hard on it!


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: mcorlett on May 17, 2012, 07:47:54 PM
This website is surprisingly similar to l.f.nu (http://l.f.nu/)!


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: HostFat on May 17, 2012, 11:25:54 PM
This website is surprisingly similar to l.f.nu (http://l.f.nu/)!
Same theme ;)
Anyway, he can find many good ideas from this one :)

I am working hard on it!
Good! :D

Another req:
Can you change the ref link with something else that isn't the username?

Example, instead of this:
http://coinurl.com/index.php?ref=HostFat

Something like this
http://coinurl.com/index.php?ref=37vw90720f3c


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: Blazr on May 17, 2012, 11:42:35 PM
This website is surprisingly similar to l.f.nu (http://l.f.nu/)!

I think they're both owned by the same guy
Apparently they're not


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on May 18, 2012, 12:02:56 AM
Same theme ;)
It is a popular free theme for the Bootstrap framework: http://bootswatch.com/united/
Many sites use it.

Another req:
Can you change the ref link with something else that isn't the username?

Example, instead of this:
http://coinurl.com/index.php?ref=HostFat

Something like this
http://coinurl.com/index.php?ref=37vw90720f3c
Just shorten link with your username! Only use different shortener, CoinURL blocks links to himself due to possible rigging of clicks.

I think they're both owned by the same guy
I don't own l.f.nu.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on May 18, 2012, 12:06:54 AM
Deletion of the links available for the publishers from profile's "My links" section.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on May 18, 2012, 01:05:45 PM
Many users have asked me about removals of clicks via e-mail, therefore and I want to clarify the situation.

Yesterday we got a bunch of suspicious clicks, that with 99% probability came from cheaters.
To prevent dilution of fair clicks' share, the stats are being reviewed every day and clicks that considered to come from suspicious sources are removed from the database.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on May 19, 2012, 03:55:26 PM
To offer better conditions for CoinURL advertisers and prevent misunderstanding like happened with mcorlett in the future, our non-refund policy was mitigated.
http://coinurl.com/faq.php (http://coinurl.com/faq.php)


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on May 19, 2012, 06:47:17 PM
Firefox add-on available!

http://coinurl.com/banners/firefox.png (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/coinurl/)

Install now! (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/coinurl/)


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on May 21, 2012, 03:31:41 AM
Currency converter available! You can view all amounts in USD at current MtGox rate. Enable it on your profile page.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: HostFat on May 21, 2012, 06:48:45 AM
Can you also add euro currency?


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on May 21, 2012, 01:23:43 PM
Can you also add euro currency?
Soon I will introduce advanced profile settings. There will be many currency options, including EUR.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: lulzplzkthx on May 21, 2012, 10:39:55 PM
Reading through the FAQ, I see "We count only unique clicks that were made with interval at least 24 hours from one IP address."

If one user clicks five of my (unique) links within an hour, do I get one click on each ad, or only one click on the first ad?

Thanks,
John Maguire


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on May 21, 2012, 11:04:21 PM
If one user clicks five of my (unique) links within an hour, do I get one click on each ad, or only one click on the first ad?
You will get 5 clicks.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on May 22, 2012, 03:16:20 AM
Visit profile's settings page (http://coinurl.com/profile-settings.php), where you can change e-mail address and password, as well as choose currency in which you want to see all amounts.

Following currencies available: AUD, CAD, CHF, CNY, DKK, EUR, GBP, HKD, JPY, NZD, PLN, RUB, SEK, SGD, THB, USD.
Rates are being updated every 30 minutes from MtGox.

If some errors emerged, try to clear browser cache.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on May 22, 2012, 07:41:04 PM
If you have seen zeroes in the stats while were not signed in, it was just a bug, that is fixed already!


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on May 23, 2012, 01:01:27 PM
You shrink links - we shrink commissions!

For the next month our commission decreased to ZERO, i.e. you will receive 100% from amounts paid by advertisers!


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: HostFat on May 23, 2012, 01:07:37 PM
You shrink links - we shrink commissions!

For the next month our commission decreased to ZERO, i.e. you will receive 100% from amounts paid by advertisers!
Woa! good :D

Can you also put the twitter widget on homepage?
So people will be able to see all the news directly without changing page.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on May 23, 2012, 04:24:14 PM
Can you also put the twitter widget on homepage?
I think main page would be better to leave clean, fast load is more important.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on May 24, 2012, 01:56:09 PM
Referral bonus increased to 25% from ad's price!

Attract more advertisers and earn extra Bitcoins, as well as increase pay rates for your links!


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on May 25, 2012, 10:49:03 PM
We are going closer to the context-based ads. URL targeting now available for the advertisers!

When the user clicks on a short link, target URL being analyzed and advertisement are choosen based on the place, where points this link. For example, if you are advertising a video service, you can specify "youtube.com" in URL targeting and the users, who click links, pointing to YouTube, will see your ad.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on May 27, 2012, 12:00:40 AM
Password protection for links now available!


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on May 28, 2012, 12:33:48 AM
Links management panel have been updated and following features added:

* edit target URL for the links;
* delete multiple links at once as batch;
* set, unset or change password for single or multiple links;
* for convenience, choose ordering by number of clicks or date.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on May 29, 2012, 01:40:30 AM
Recent clicks stats and chart available for the link publishers!


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: HostFat on May 29, 2012, 02:47:07 PM
Can you check the IP so that this message will be show in other languages?

There is only in english language now:
"CoinURL : shorten links and earn Bitcoins Visit Advanced URL shortener that rewards link publishers  Skip ad ╗ Redirect after 5 seconds..."

Example:
If someone click the link and his IP comes from Italy, the message should be in italian language.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on May 29, 2012, 03:59:20 PM
Can you check the IP so that this message will be show in other languages?

There is only in english language now:
"CoinURL : shorten links and earn Bitcoins Visit Advanced URL shortener that rewards link publishers  Skip ad ╗ Redirect after 5 seconds..."

Example:
If someone click the link and his IP comes from Italy, the message should be in italian language.
It is possible, but I speak only Russian (my native language) and English.
BTW, I have plans to make Russian version after some time, when CoinURL will reach some stabilization in features.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on May 29, 2012, 06:16:23 PM
SSL protocol enabled!

http://coinurl.com/banners/ssl.gif (https://coinurl.com)

P.S. If you got some errors, please report to me.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on June 01, 2012, 02:42:40 AM
Advertising scheme completely changed to conform the industry standard (the same as Google Ads and Facebook use).
For link publishers more details about clicks payments available.

If something goes wrong, please have a patience and report me.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on June 01, 2012, 01:01:05 PM
A bug was detected: instead of your links, in "My links" section you have seen links that were created anonymously (i.e. by users without registration). Database was not damaged by this error, all your links are absolutely safe.

Sorry for inconvenience. Your account have to work normally now!


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on June 02, 2012, 01:53:32 PM
Auto redirect timer now optional and can be enabled/disabled in the profile settings.

When a user clicks on your link, a timer can be turned on and after 15 seconds he will be automatically redirected to the destination website. Enabling auto redirect can provide more convenience for your links visitors, but decrease users' attention to the ads.

Advertisers can choose to don't show their ads on links with auto redirect.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on June 05, 2012, 02:26:17 AM
Advertisers can to pause/resume their ads, as well as to stop advertising campaign at any time and get full refund of remaining impressions.

https://coinurl.com/profile-ads.php (https://coinurl.com/profile-ads.php)


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on June 06, 2012, 01:40:59 AM
Number of our users have grown beyond BitcoinMonitor's limits, so deposit processing method was changed. Payment addresses will be assigned dynamically and be valid for 24 hours after request in profile's "Deposit" section.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on June 08, 2012, 01:18:30 PM
I have received bug report about MySQL connection error. This error continued for very short time and now all works fine. I think it was due to hoster's server overload. If you would see it again, please make a screenshot and report me.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on June 09, 2012, 02:38:12 PM
Register your personal named link on the subdomains:

bit
go
in
jump
link
me
my
n
name
to


You are welcome to suggest own subdomains.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: HostFat on June 11, 2012, 11:47:12 AM
Can you make the "Auto redirect" option for every single links?
Now it's on/off for everyone without distinction.

Another thing is that if the "auto redirect" is disabled, the user can't see the count-down.
The count-down is an usefull thing becuase it get the attemption of the user that find that he can skip/go to the final link.
Now it can happen that the user open the link but it doesn't see / or look at the upper bar, that he think that he clicked the wrong link.

So can you make the "skip ad" button little flashing/juming/moving/... when the user has disabled the "count-down" ?


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on June 11, 2012, 02:31:02 PM
Can you make the "Auto redirect" option for every single links?
Now it's on/off for everyone without distinction.
It is not my current priority, but in the future I might add this. Now you can just register another account with different settings.

So can you make the "skip ad" button little flashing/juming/moving/...?
I have made button bigger, may be would add some animation.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: HostFat on June 12, 2012, 08:54:48 AM
I tried to put this in your services:
Code:
skype:?chat&blob=S4q6R6Jd--K9yuP0Qj5gqChH75XAbUrNnnVfQyd2dJRcUURfK1dOdcqgX8dXylhSqS8eHceoCledpcsHUXugl36HG66j5Ve1t1VOghWhyGiMAW9zYoO6dx0BOiZLiuRbjl0p1XyM
It's a skype link to a skype group.

But it change the link in
Code:
skype/?chat&blob=S4q6R6Jd--K9yuP0Qj5gqChH75XAbUrNnnVfQyd2dJRcUURfK1dOdcqgX8dXylhSqS8eHceoCledpcsHUXugl36HG66j5Ve1t1VOghWhyGiMAW9zYoO6dx0BOiZLiuRbjl0p1XyM

So it changes "skype:?chat" to "skype/?chat" and it doesn't work.

This is the link:
https://bitcointalk.org/annoyance.php

Is there a way to fix it?

EDIT:
I just saw that there is the same problem with magnet link ( useful for bittorrents downloads )
example:
Code:
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:6659131ed6099ae194099c4466b288a5f6d35eaa3A6969
It change it in:
Code:
magnet/?xt=urn:btih:6659131ed6099ae194099c4466b288a5f6d35eaa3A6969


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on June 12, 2012, 01:12:29 PM
I tried to put this in your services:
Code:
skype:?chat&blob=S4q6R6Jd--K9yuP0Qj5gqChH75XAbUrNnnVfQyd2dJRcUURfK1dOdcqgX8dXylhSqS8eHceoCledpcsHUXugl36HG66j5Ve1t1VOghWhyGiMAW9zYoO6dx0BOiZLiuRbjl0p1XyM
It's a skype link to a skype group.

But it change the link in
Code:
skype/?chat&blob=S4q6R6Jd--K9yuP0Qj5gqChH75XAbUrNnnVfQyd2dJRcUURfK1dOdcqgX8dXylhSqS8eHceoCledpcsHUXugl36HG66j5Ve1t1VOghWhyGiMAW9zYoO6dx0BOiZLiuRbjl0p1XyM

So it changes "skype:?chat" to "skype/?chat" and it doesn't work.

This is the link:
https://bitcointalk.org/annoyance.php

Is there a way to fix it?

EDIT:
I just saw that there is the same problem with magnet link ( useful for bittorrents downloads )
example:
Code:
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:6659131ed6099ae194099c4466b288a5f6d35eaa3A6969
It change it in:
Code:
magnet/?xt=urn:btih:6659131ed6099ae194099c4466b288a5f6d35eaa3A6969
I just tested on Chrome and Firefox, I don't see that it changes colon to the slash. Here is an example of your magnet link: https://www.coinurl.com/stats.php?code=mdw

It seems that this forum blocks ad links, so write your example as link to the stats page, like above.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: HostFat on June 12, 2012, 01:17:25 PM
I know that there is problem on this forum, but there is also on your service ( or there is a problem with my Chrome browser ... )
I saw that the link appear correct on the service interface, but it doesn't work on the "redirect step".
It redirect to the wrong link, the one with the slash.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: ingrownpocket on June 12, 2012, 01:21:44 PM
If I mouse over the redirect button I get this:
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg801/scaled.php?server=801&filename=17364486.png&res=landing

If I click the redirect button I get this:
http://desmond.imageshack.us/Himg42/scaled.php?server=42&filename=28291053.png&res=landing

I'm using last version of Chrome.

EDIT:

But if I click the 'Target URL' here: https://www.coinurl.com/stats.php?code=mdw everything goes fine.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on June 12, 2012, 01:30:35 PM
Bug fixed! Thank you for the reports.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: HostFat on June 12, 2012, 01:32:27 PM
Bug fixed! Thank you for the reports.
thank you for your service :D


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on June 12, 2012, 06:20:13 PM
Added "now" subdomain.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on June 16, 2012, 12:40:22 AM
Content filtration changed. Options "politics" and "weapons" added. Alcohol and tobacco can be selected separately.

Please update filtration settings in your profile:
https://coinurl.com/profile-filter.php


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on June 17, 2012, 05:27:29 PM
Our web hoster's server went offline. Don't worry, CoinURL operation will be restored soon.

P.S. I just called my hosting provider, they promised to restore operation within 30 mins.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: Lethos on June 17, 2012, 05:50:38 PM
Our web hoster's server went offline. Don't worry, CoinURL operation will be restored soon.

P.S. I just called my hosting provider, they promised to restore operation within 30 mins.

I just noticed it was offline, glad to see you already on it.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on June 17, 2012, 07:39:17 PM
I have called the hoster again. An operator said a hardware failure occurred. Right now they are replacing damaged equipment.

Don't panic! I have recent backup.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on June 17, 2012, 09:49:37 PM
CoinURL operation fully recovered! Database was not affected by this accident.

Sorry for inconvenience!


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: Lethos on June 17, 2012, 10:29:49 PM
CoinURL operation fully recovered! Database was not affected by this accident.

Sorry for inconvenience!

:D glad to hear it.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: HostFat on June 20, 2012, 06:11:56 PM
It seems that there are some websites ( or just one ) that block the redirect.
Example:
ads

Can you find a way to auto-check these problems?


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on June 20, 2012, 08:27:33 PM
Some advertisers try to fraudulently boost number of visitors by embedding script that forces redirect to their page.

Unfortunately it is impossible to automatically detect these scripts. But malicious ads are being immediately removed, right after I receive a complaint, without refunds to the advertisers. I think this measure will destroy any incentive to annoy users.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on June 21, 2012, 02:17:08 AM
Browser extensions updated. Added SSL encryption, as well as possibility to set default password for protection series of the links.

Chrome extension: https://coinurl.com/download/coinurl_chrome.crx

Firefox add-on will be auto updated after Mozilla review, which takes about 3 days. If you don't want to wait, update manually right now:
https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/downloads/file/155800/coinurl-1.1-fx.xpi


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: Lethos on June 21, 2012, 10:44:25 AM
You can control what they do. It's a matter of forcing it.
Is it easy? no
They get more ingenious with every turn. However you do ultimately have just as much control as they do.

One method that usually works.
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1794974/using-js-how-can-i-stop-child-iframes-from-redirecting-or-at-least-prompt-users

Html5 has also introduced sandboxing
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/369498/how-to-prevent-iframe-from-redirecting-top-level-window

It's adoption however is not yet fully supported in all browsers. So sandboxing your iframe will have it's drawbacks until it does.

So I'd like to just say, It's not really true to say, "Unfortunately it is impossible to automatically detect these scripts."
If you'd some help in making this less of an issue, I'm sure I can find you a solution, but their is enough freely available advice and code out there.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on June 21, 2012, 04:17:49 PM
Lethos, thank you for the suggestion.

Now ads are being be displayed in the separate sandbox, where parent's window forced redirect is not possible to perform.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: Lethos on June 21, 2012, 10:42:58 PM
Lethos, thank you for the suggestion.

Now ads are being be displayed in the separate sandbox, where parent's window forced redirect is not possible to perform.

Almost tempted to test that out, but I'll take your word for it :)
Glad to hear you are making these upgrades.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: mcorlett on June 21, 2012, 10:47:45 PM
Now ads are being be displayed in the separate sandbox, where parent's window forced redirect is not possible to perform.
So, you're not doing anything to help Firefox, Opera, or Internet Explorer users?


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: HostFat on June 21, 2012, 10:49:16 PM
Is html5 only supported by Chrome? I don't think so ...


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: mcorlett on June 21, 2012, 10:51:20 PM
Is html5 only supported by Chrome? I don't think so ...
"The sandbox attribute is currently supported in Chrome and Safari."
 - http://www.w3schools.com/html5/att_iframe_sandbox.asp

Please do some research before posting.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: HostFat on June 21, 2012, 10:55:44 PM
It seems that you are taking it too personaly :-\
I leave! ;D


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: mcorlett on June 21, 2012, 10:58:02 PM
I leave! ;D
I would expect nothing less! :)


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: nimda on June 21, 2012, 11:37:37 PM
Now ads are being be displayed in the separate sandbox, where parent's window forced redirect is not possible to perform.
So, you're not doing anything to help Firefox, Opera, or Internet Explorer users?
From a webdev standpoint, it's very tempting to only support Chrome, but it's most profitable to spend countless frustrated hours trying to get IE up to 2005 levels.
From an ideological standpoint, I'd only use HTML5 and CSS3, then wait for everyone to support the goddamn international standards.
From an end-user standpoint, I use Chrome (over FF) because I'd rather have more HTML5 support and forego random stuff like APNG.
I'd switch to maxathon if it was faster and I liked its UI better
Sources:
http://html5test.com/results/desktop.html
http://peacekeeper.futuremark.com/


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on June 22, 2012, 12:52:59 AM
Is html5 only supported by Chrome? I don't think so ...
"The sandbox attribute is currently supported in Chrome and Safari."
 - http://www.w3schools.com/html5/att_iframe_sandbox.asp
Yes, it is true. But it is only one way how to automatically prevent malicious ads. While this feature is not supported in all browsers, I will continue to manually monitor ads for presence of the forced redirect scripts.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on June 22, 2012, 12:55:37 AM
Click stats have been updated. See how much you have earned on each click.
View your earnings chart for the last month.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on June 26, 2012, 03:43:03 PM
Upload web pages containing links which you want to shorten. You can upload a single file with HTML code (.html, .htm, .php etc) or bundle many files in the archive (only .zip format supported). Archive can contain folders, as well as binary files (e.g. images). Only "href" attribute will be affected.
We strongly respect your privacy and will never disclose any files that you have uploaded. These files will be securely deleted not later than 24 hours since processing.

This feature is in the beta stage, if you have found a bug, please tell me.

https://coinurl.com/profile-batch.php


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on June 27, 2012, 02:20:25 AM
Batch shortener now supports automatic relative URL transformation to absolute, using specified base domain.

For example, if you have links like href="index.php" and website's domain is "sample-site.com", you can automatically convert links to "http://sample-site.com/index.php".


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on June 29, 2012, 02:00:01 PM
Process your tweet, instant message or forum post and monetize all links it has. Message's structure and text will be kept original. BBCode (used in most forums like phpBB and vBulletin) is also supported.

https://coinurl.com/profile-message.php


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on June 30, 2012, 03:10:05 PM
Our message parser (https://coinurl.com/profile-message.php) now able to detect links even without "http://" protocol prefix.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on July 03, 2012, 06:49:25 PM
Improvements made for the advertisers:

* Significantly improved fraudulent click detection method.
* Preview of the ads available.
* You can specify separate URL of your website and ad page's URL to be shown in the interstitial ad frame. Also you can upload an ad to our server.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on July 04, 2012, 06:48:56 PM
Advertisers, make your campaign more effective by forcing link visitors to view your ads for given period of time!
Publishers, boost your earnings by allowing longer ad display time!


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on July 05, 2012, 02:29:04 PM
Google Chrome extension now available from the official Chome Web Store! If you have previous version installed, please uninstall it first, than perform an update. You may be asked to enter a personal UUID again.


http://coinurl.com/banners/chrome.png (https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/hioofbdebnagjphoejaimfoklbcemnfh?hl=en-US)
Update now! (https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/hioofbdebnagjphoejaimfoklbcemnfh?hl=en-US)


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on July 07, 2012, 01:45:52 PM
Want to save your time? Just place JavaScript code on each website's page and all links it contains will start to generate income for you!

Below is an example. Version with personal ID and more detailed description is here: https://coinurl.com/profile-dynamic.php (https://coinurl.com/profile-dynamic.php).

Code:
<script type="text/javascript">
$(function() {
    var include = Array();
    //Leave empty to convert all links on the page or specify keywords
    //which URL must contain to be processed
    
    var exclude = Array();
    //Specify keywords which URL must not contain to be processed
    
    var id = "a274a7610f6856432fb1e9a707de2645"; //Change to personal from https://coinurl.com/profile-dynamic.php
    var redirect = "http://coinurl.com/redirect.php?id=" + id + "&url=";
    var links = $("a[href^='http']");
    
    for(var i = 0; i < links.length; i++) {
        var url = $(links[i]).attr("href");
        
        var deny = false;
        for(var j = 0; j < exclude.length; j++) {
            if(url.indexOf(exclude[j]) != -1) {
                deny = true;
                break;
            }
        }
        if(deny) {
            continue;
        }
        
        if(include.length > 0) {
            var allow = false;
            for(var j = 0; j < include.length; j++) {
                if(url.indexOf(include[j]) != -1) {
                    allow = true;
                    break;
                }
            }
            if(!allow) {
                continue;
            }
        }
        
        $(links[i]).attr("href",  redirect + encodeURIComponent(url));
    }
});
</script>


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: ingrownpocket on July 07, 2012, 02:26:18 PM
You're working really hard on this project. I wish you the best of lucks.
It's a great service  :)

PS: You may want to change the link on your previous post. (localhost)


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on July 07, 2012, 02:34:37 PM
You're working really hard on this project. I wish you the best of lucks.
It's a great service  :)
Thank you!

PS: You may want to change the link on your previous post. (localhost)
Oh, I have copied this snipped from my local server. On the page https://coinurl.com/profile-dynamic.php redirect URL is correct.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on July 10, 2012, 04:57:11 PM
Many new tools now available for the advertisers! The ad selection algorithm completely rewriten from scratch!

You can choose devices on which you want to show your ad (desktop and laptop computers, smartphones, tablets).

Frequency capping lets you to set maximum number of times an ad can be shown to the same person per 24 hours.

Also you can specify keywords to target your ad to the people, who visit relevant websites. Both referrer and destination URL will be matched. Keywords now being matched in the case-insensitive full text search mode, e.g. it is enough to specify "youtube" to target all YouTube links. Keywords also can be used to exclude audience who visit websites, that are not relevant for your ad (e.g. porn, pirated downloads).

Meanwhile, Firefox extension (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/coinurl/) was too updated!

P.S. As I know, currently CoinURL is only one Bitcoin advertising platform that offers contextual ads.



Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: HostFat on July 10, 2012, 05:27:46 PM
You have some great skills :)
Will you ever make a complete advertise system as anonymous ads?


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on July 10, 2012, 06:01:41 PM
Will you ever make a complete advertise system as anonymous ads?
You are absolutely right! I have plans to turn CoinURL into leading Bitcoin advertising platform!


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on July 12, 2012, 06:51:01 PM
Want to publish multiple ads with the same geo, language, and keywords settings? Use your existing ad as a template to create new one.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: CaptChadd on July 13, 2012, 07:17:38 AM
I use this service too and I think it is great. Good job with it. Just need to find a sweet spot with where to put the links.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: gbl08ma on July 14, 2012, 08:45:57 PM
I have used this service since its start, not as a publisher but as an advertiser for my websites.
I recall the first ad was for my own URL shortening service (w/out ads), and it was even a bit aggressive ("tired of waiting for redirection? my shortener has no ads"); recently I have taken a more passive approach since I figured out CoinURL isn't exactly in the same market/user base as my URL shortener - no need to get more enemies ;)
More recently, I also bought ads for another website of my own, with positive results - even though the ad I posted for it accidentally broke the iframe of the redirection page, support contacted me in a few hours and I had the problem solved in a couple more. CoinURL also implemented the feature I suggested in the emails we exchanged, the one of ad preview (exactly to prevent broken iframes).

As an advertiser, I'm quite satisfied with this service and its support system (fast reply, no annoying ticket system, and even accept users' suggestions), even though as an link-clicking user I really hate services like CoinURL, making me wait to browse to the links I clicked.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: ingrownpocket on July 14, 2012, 08:53:15 PM
It would be nice if we could choose a max number of daily visits so the views won't run out the first day.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on July 14, 2012, 09:56:52 PM
It would be nice if we could choose a max number of daily visits so the views won't run out the first day.
It is called frequency capping (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frequency_capping). I have already introduced this feature few days ago.

Maybe I have incorrectly understood what did you mean and in fact you are asking about limiting overall number of impressions per day, not views by the same user. If yes, you just don't understand how are auction-based ads working! Completion speed (number of impressions per day) depends from CPM bid, therefore to get less impressions just pay cheaper price!  ;D


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: ingrownpocket on July 15, 2012, 09:38:21 AM
It would be nice if we could choose a max number of daily visits so the views won't run out the first day.
It is called frequency capping (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frequency_capping). I have already introduced this feature few days ago.

Maybe I have incorrectly understood what did you mean and in fact you are asking about limiting overall number of impressions per day, not views by the same user. If yes, you just don't understand how are auction-based ads working! Completion speed (number of impressions per day) depends from CPM bid, therefore to get less impressions just pay cheaper price!  ;D

I do understand how are auction-based ads work.

The problem is when all other ads expire.
Yesterday I got 28.7k impressions (87% of total impressions). This way my ads will expire all in the same day, and I don't want this.
It would be nice if we could edit active ads.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on July 15, 2012, 12:49:49 PM
even though as an link-clicking user I really hate services like CoinURL, making me wait to browse to the links I clicked.
You must blame link publishers who force you to wait! In CoinURL, unlike AdFly, any publisher can set maximum wait time applicable for their links, depending on how does his audience tolerate forced wait time.

Quote from: CoinAd
Yesterday I got 28.7k impressions (87% of total impressions).
Someone have started to use auto shortening feature on his highly visited site, so average number of clicks per day skyrocketed by 10 times. Even I haven't expected such big instant growth! It proves that using my auto shortening script is the same easy like putting banner ads.

Quote from: CoinAd
It would be nice if we could edit active ads.
I am working on it right now  ;)


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on July 15, 2012, 07:00:01 PM
Ad editing and budget management now available!

Go to the "My ads" page and open context menu:

http://coinurl.com/banners/edit.png

P.S. Few days ago someone with heavy traffic website installed our auto shortening script and boosted number of clicks to more than 30k per day. This traffic is absolutely legitimate and has very high quality (visitors mostly from U.S. and western Europe). Many advertisers were not ready for this significant increase of the traffic and their remaining impressions depleted, so advertising cost dropped to the ridiculously low value ~0.045 BTC per mille.

Don't miss your opportunity while eyes of these visitors are so damn cheap!


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on July 17, 2012, 01:02:53 PM
On advertisement's stats page you can estimate performance of the ad: expected number of impressions per day and campaign's completion time. Use this data to adjust CPM bid and achieve the best cost/speed ratio! See an example (https://coinurl.com/stats-ad.php?id=217).


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on July 18, 2012, 06:35:24 PM
Main page was completely redesigned. I am not a professional designer, so may be you have some suggestions how to make it more attractive.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: gbl08ma on July 18, 2012, 06:41:47 PM
I like it, it reminds me of the homepage of my tnyCloud service. I think the four bigger icons in the middle of the page need to be anti-aliased because they look ugly now.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on July 18, 2012, 08:49:33 PM
I like it, it reminds me of the homepage of my tnyCloud service.
This style comes from Bootstrap promo page, so it can be found on a whole bunch of websites.
But I think 4 big icons in the middle adds some originality.

I think the four bigger icons in the middle of the page need to be anti-aliased because they look ugly now.
Fixed.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: gbl08ma on July 18, 2012, 09:05:30 PM
This style comes from Bootstrap promo page, so it can be found on a whole bunch of websites.
Yes, I know, I'm not criticizing you. In fact, the icons on my page are in the opposite side (float: right) of the div, when compared.
Quote
I think the four bigger icons in the middle of the page need to be anti-aliased because they look ugly now.
Fixed.
They look much better now :) You're not so bad at web design as you say...


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on July 19, 2012, 12:15:56 AM
I have changed colors for the promo image. I think now it fits better to the "United" Bootstrap theme.

Original image:
http://coinurl.com/banners/promo_dark.png

After change:
http://coinurl.com/banners/promo.png

Which do you think looks better?


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: gbl08ma on July 19, 2012, 10:00:40 AM
The orange, changed image looks better on the website. Even though it looks fine now, take care not to abuse of the orange color if you ever make more changes to the layout. Too much orange is one of the problems I find on some websites with the United theme.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on July 23, 2012, 02:58:00 PM
We have broke previous withdrawal record! Someone lucky earned whole 5 BTC (http://blockchain.info/address/1C5EhiTqAUoB3wsBEoKjRuLBmWoevbzDmL)!


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on July 26, 2012, 03:30:26 PM
Russian localization available!

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Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on July 27, 2012, 02:18:53 PM
Advertising costs dropped to the average 0.02 BTC per 1000 views. It is really cheap comparing to other Bitcoin advertising networks!


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: ingrownpocket on July 28, 2012, 10:26:52 AM
Can you not delete ads when they're out of funds?
It's very boring to create the same ad all over again and wait for review.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on July 28, 2012, 12:10:13 PM
Can you not delete ads when they're out of funds?
It's very boring to create the same ad all over again
You don't need to create new ad! Just go to the "My ads" -> "Show history", click "Manage budget" on selected ad and enter number of impressions you want to buy.

and wait for review.
I will fix it soon.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: bitcoinplaza on July 28, 2012, 12:33:47 PM
I want to share my experience with coinurl.
This platform is a good idea and technically excellent and constantly growing with many useful features to publishers, but lately I'm having some problems with ads revenue, initially in the first two week of service the gains were proportional, probably over my dreams, over the past several days/weeks i have problems with unexplained rejected states (to test some of them i've asked some friends in usa and canada to test for me outside europe with default beaviour, browser no ad block, no proxy, accepting cockies, js enabled, ecc, but rejected ?) and unexplained changing values, i tried to contact their support (btw, really quick, and comprensive response) and some things have been clarified, but others unfortunately not, i'm an honest publisher, never try to scam 1 click, but i know what i'm doing, and don't want to wast my time or work free for others, and i think that if things and not clarified and still remain unexplained i will return to a platform more transparent and respectful of its publisher.
sincerly Bitcoinplaza


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on July 28, 2012, 12:52:23 PM
I want to share my experience with coinurl.
This platform is a good idea and technically excellent and constantly growing with many useful features to publishers, but lately I'm having some problems with ads revenue, initially in the first two week of service the gains were proportional, probably over my dreams, over the past several days/weeks i have problems with unexplained rejected states (to test some of them i've asked some friends in usa and canada to test for me outside europe with default beaviour, browser no ad block, no proxy, accepting cockies, js enabled, ecc, but rejected ?) and unexplained changing values, i tried to contact their support (btw, really quick, and comprensive response) and some things have been clarified, but others unfortunately not, i'm an honest publisher, never try to scam 1 click, but i know what i'm doing, and don't want to wast my time or work free for others, and i think that if things and not clarified and still remain unexplained i will return to a platform more transparent and respectful of its publisher.
sincerly Bitcoinplaza

For all time you have 1794 clicks registered, 115 were rejected.

As I said before, server-side script automatically checks if the visitor's browser have sent acknowledgement about successful advertisement load in the frame. It may be many reasons why query relating this acknowledgement was not executed, e.g. client closed browser too quickly, my hoster's DB server was down at this time, firewall blocked it or many other that I even cannot know.

But your rejection rate is only 6.8%, I don't understand why to worry! Also I think having negligible share of false-positives is much better than disabling fraud detection script at all and lose all advertisers, because nobody will pay to show their ads to the bots!


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: bitcoinplaza on July 28, 2012, 01:08:01 PM
For all time you have 1794 clicks registered, 115 were rejected.

As I said before, server-side script automatically checks if the visitor's browser have sent acknowledgement about successful advertisement load in the frame. It may be many reasons why query relating this acknowledgement was not executed, e.g. client closed browser too quickly, my hoster's DB server were down in this time, firewall blocked it or many other that I even cannot know.

But your rejection rate is only 6.8%, I don't understand why you worry!

as i wrote if you consider last days reject ratio is over 85%, and i've already abandoned you for twitter there is aroud 99% !  ::)
if was as you wrote where are my transactions ?  :P
Anyway bitcoinplaza is just borned, and i've all time to choose right street.
i repeat your is a great service (i'm thinking to clone it  ;D), need some fine tuning and a little more trasparence, maybe for any other user is perfect.
thanks anyway good job !



Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on July 28, 2012, 01:38:19 PM
as i wrote if you consider last days reject ratio is over 85%, and i've already abandoned you for twitter there is aroud 99% !  ::)
if was as you wrote where are my transactions ?  :P
Do you have other accounts besides "Tino"? If yes, write please usernames.

need some fine tuning and a little more trasparence
What concrete features do you want?

i'm thinking to clone it
Then you will see how really hard is to fight against fraud. If you are unable to solve cheating issue, nobody will advertise.

Quote
and don't want to wast my time or work free
BTW, you don't even need to spend time! Just place our javascript code, visitors will see ads and you receive Bitcoins. Also for these type of advertising click rejection rate is significantly lower.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on July 30, 2012, 01:48:45 PM
New affiliate program available! Make advertising on CoinURL available for wider audience! Resell our vouchers as for Bitcoins, as well as for real currency and make 15% profit!


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: ingrownpocket on July 30, 2012, 02:32:24 PM
ID: 50169a975cc15856027962
Code: 41901b6b7cfa2084cafa0948342bb994

 ;D


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on July 30, 2012, 02:49:59 PM
ID: 50169a975cc15856027962
Code: 41901b6b7cfa2084cafa0948342bb994

 ;D
Someone certainly will thank you for this donation!  ;)


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on July 30, 2012, 05:26:38 PM
Can you not delete ads when they're out of funds?
It's very boring to create the same ad all over again and wait for review.
This bug fixed now. For all subsequent ads (including currently active) you will be able to refill a finished ad without waiting repeat review!


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on July 31, 2012, 05:26:14 PM
Visualization of the impressions stats was added. You can view your ad's performance for last hour, day, month(s). Also, with mouse hover on points, you can compare average CPM bids which were set at these periods to select most appropriate price/performance ratio.

An example:

http://coinurl.com/img/chart.png


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on August 01, 2012, 02:01:08 PM
I have received many requests asking to providing more transparency about rejected clicks. Link publishers now can see info about a user, who made a click (hostname, referrer, operating system, browser, language). Additionally, information about ad status (if an ad was successfully shown or not) and target link visit (i.e. if "Skip ad" button was shown) available.

An example:

http://coinurl.com/img/visitor.png

Information about users who viewed an ad also available to the advertisers in the "Impression details" page.





Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: gbl08ma on August 01, 2012, 06:50:05 PM
What if an user that clicks on a CoinURL short link is not comfortable with his information being available to the link publisher? Do you comply with any do-not-track standards (i.e. the browser plugins that indicate websites user prefers not to be tracked)?


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on August 01, 2012, 07:00:33 PM
What if an user that clicks on a CoinURL short link is not comfortable with his information being available to the link publisher? Do you comply with any do-not-track standards (i.e. the browser plugins that indicate websites user prefers not to be tracked)?
I do not hand over any data (i.e. IP-address) that can be used to identify person who clicked a link. Info which I have started to provide to the link publishers just gives them more details to understand why some clicks were rejected.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: mcorlett on August 01, 2012, 07:06:45 PM
I do not hand over any data (i.e. IP-address)
The hostname is directly resolvable to the IP address.

Code:
[milton:~]$ host pc-247-27-44-190.cm.vtr.net
pc-247-27-44-190.cm.vtr.net has address 190.44.27.247

/me facepalms


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on August 01, 2012, 07:11:12 PM
Ok, I will add "Do not track" flag.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: HostFat on August 01, 2012, 07:22:29 PM
Do you mean that the user must register before clicking the link to disable the flag?
I think that none want to give personal information ( like IP address / hostname ) to anyone else.


Anyway, can you also add an option to give the advertiser the ability to enable some clicks coming from Tor network if the have some kind of ref?

Example:
I'm an advertiser, I see that clicks coming from sdfhdojghidcohiuehc.onion seems true ( its' a not existent address, it's just random chars ), so I want to enable coinurl to count these kind of clicks instead of nulling them.

you can also add an option to enable clicks coming from any Tor node, it's a choice of the advertiser.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on August 01, 2012, 07:35:20 PM
Do you mean that the user must register before clicking the link to disable the flag?
I think that none want to give personal information ( like IP address / hostname ) to anyone else.
It is browser-wide option, not concrete service's. The user just says to anyone that he don't want to be tracked.

http://coinurl.com/img/dont_track.png


Anyway, can you also add an option to give the advertiser the ability to enable some clicks coming from Tor network if the have some kind of ref?

Example:
I'm an advertiser, I see that clicks coming from sdfhdojghidcohiuehc.onion seems true ( its' a not existent address, it's just random chars ), so I want to enable coinurl to count these kind of clicks instead of nulling them.
Nice idea! I will consider this.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: gbl08ma on August 01, 2012, 10:00:45 PM
It is browser-wide option, not concrete service's. The user just says to anyone that he don't want to be tracked.

Not all browsers support that option, and if I recall correctly such things first appeared as browser plugins. And yes, it's the client that specifies, by sending some sort of flag to the server, that it doesn't want to be tracked. I don't know if there's some sort of official standard for it. It's up to the server to respect the flag or not, but I think it's more polite to respect it whenever possible, so it's great you're adding support for it :)

Some more notes: links which have too many "do not track" clicks can be marked as suspicious, and advertisers can choose not to show their ad to people who don't want to be tracked (even because no-tracking may not comply with the privacy police of their website or ad page).


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on August 02, 2012, 01:20:29 AM
Not all browsers support that option, and if I recall correctly such things first appeared as browser plugins. And yes, it's the client that specifies, by sending some sort of flag to the server, that it doesn't want to be tracked. I don't know if there's some sort of official standard for it. It's up to the server to respect the flag or not, but I think it's more polite to respect it whenever possible, so it's great you're adding support for it :)

This flag can be easily obtained with following code (tested with Firefox and Chrome "Do Not Track Plus" extension):

Code:
function doNotTrack()
{
if(isset($_SERVER['HTTP_DNT']) && ($_SERVER['HTTP_DNT'] == 1))
return true;
else
return false;
}

I have enabled "Do Not Track" feature and started to respect also link visitors' privacy. If visitor's browser has this flag enabled, publishers and advertisers will see a message like:

http://coinurl.com/img/track_disabled.png

Otherwise, IP and hostname will be available to them.


Some more notes: links which have too many "do not track" clicks can be marked as suspicious, and advertisers can choose not to show their ad to people who don't want to be tracked (even because no-tracking may not comply with the privacy police of their website or ad page).

I think it is obvious that "Do Not Track" flag will be used as one of the parameters in fraud detection script.


Anyway, can you also add an option to give the advertiser the ability to enable some clicks coming from Tor network if the have some kind of ref?

A whitelist for TOR hidden websites enabled. If you have a .onion site where want to place CoinURL links, write me its address and if it is legitimate I will add an exception.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on August 02, 2012, 04:49:35 PM
We have started to pay 10% bonus from the link publisher earnings, who have registered with your referral link!


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: ingrownpocket on August 02, 2012, 06:20:20 PM
We have started to pay 10% bonus from the link publisher earnings, who have registered with your referral link!

SWEET!


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on August 03, 2012, 12:22:44 AM
I have noticed that many advertisers incorrectly use targeting by referring and short link destination URL. May be phrase "Keywords" is confusing or not all users have read help before posting an ad and mistakenly suppose that this means natural language keywords like "automobiles" and "houses", which web page must contain to be matched. Unfortunately, currently I don't have enough computational power to cache contents of the websites, on which links are pointing the same way as Google AdSense does.

In fact, as said in help, keywords are tokens which are being matched against referring and destination URL, not contents of the websites they are pointing. For example, if you have specified keyword "bitcoin", it will be matched against URLs like http://dailybitcoins.org, http://bitcointalk.org, http://bitcoinplaza.blogspot.com etc (i.e. keyword must enter exactly into URL as substring to be matched).

To make this feature less ambiguous I have renamed "keywords" to "URL tokens". If you already have placed an ad with incorrect targeting  settings, please correct it.

Help page with detailed explanation: https://coinurl.com/url-targeting.php


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on August 04, 2012, 03:08:15 AM
New record high withdrawal of 5.4 BTC:
http://blockchain.info/tx-index/14481862/94294c1449127715a9005a9397864e0c5e37e4930e5b2caa46bde36505da3036

By the way, user who earned these Bitcoins have used our auto-shortening script on his website and got so many impressions with little efforts!


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on August 05, 2012, 07:16:57 PM
Our web hoster's MySQL server seems to be experiencing some problems. Unfortunately their support doesn't work at weekends.
 
Sorry for inconvenience.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on August 06, 2012, 01:23:15 PM
Database server's performance issue was solved.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on August 08, 2012, 03:33:42 PM
UPD1:
Install an overlay script on your website's pages and earn on each visit! When some user visits a page with this script installed, he will be immediately exposed to an ad then returned back to the target page. Advertisements will be shown not frequently than one time per day on each page for the same user.

See live example: http://dailybitcoins.org/stats


UPD2:
You can see your refferals stats (when joined and amount of your earnings). Stats available for period beginning August 8, 2012.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on August 09, 2012, 11:14:03 PM
To provide highest level of security we have started to encrypt cookies which contain sensitive info.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: localhost on August 13, 2012, 08:57:33 PM
Install an overlay script on your website's pages and earn on each visit! When some user visits a page with this script installed, he will be immediately exposed to an ad then returned back to the target page.
Nag screen on my site? Hm, I don't think I'm that greedy... It's because of ads like that that people are installing ad-killers that also block perfectly unobtrusive, discreet ads...


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on August 14, 2012, 02:05:40 AM
Install an overlay script on your website's pages and earn on each visit! When some user visits a page with this script installed, he will be immediately exposed to an ad then returned back to the target page.
Nag screen on my site? Hm, I don't think I'm that greedy... It's because of ads like that that people are installing ad-killers that also block perfectly unobtrusive, discreet ads...
I try to offer as much as possible methods of advertising and it is up to the website's owner to choose an appropriate one, depending on its target audience!

BTW, stay tuned! Next days I will announce non-intrusive banner advertising on the CoinURL.


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: giantdragon on August 16, 2012, 03:22:09 PM
Banner advertising like Google AdSense« available on the CoinURL:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=101069.0


Title: Re: CoinURL: shorten links and earn Bitcoins
Post by: gbl08ma on August 16, 2012, 03:23:53 PM
Finally, yet another trustworthy bitcoin advertising network :)


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: Matoking on August 17, 2012, 06:08:14 AM
Would it be possible to exclude an ad from being shown on chosen sites by prepending the URL with a minus mark or something? (eg. -http://www.bitbin.it/ )

It would be quite redundant to see an ad about BitBin in BitBin. :P


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on August 17, 2012, 12:34:18 PM
Would it be possible to exclude an ad from being shown on chosen sites by prepending the URL with a minus mark or something? (eg. -http://www.bitbin.it/ )

It would be quite redundant to see an ad about BitBin in BitBin. :P
It is possible! Just enter

Code:
-bitbin.it

in the URL targeting options.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on August 18, 2012, 01:22:24 AM
Click and impression charts now available for the ad slots.

Also advertisers can view impressions chart along with the clicks.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on August 20, 2012, 12:41:37 AM
Overall stats page was completely redesigned. Traffic calculator to estimate average number of visitors per concrete country, language and domain have added.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on August 21, 2012, 04:10:08 PM
UPD1: Location and language charts, as well as OS, browser and device stats now available for all advertisements, links and ad slots.

UPD2: Advertisers can see aggregate traffic source (referrer) stats for their interstitial and banner ads now!

Stats for all entities (ads, links, ad slots) can be easily retrieved in uniform way by opening it's context menu (icon with cog) and clicking "Stats".

http://coinurl.com/img/menu.png






Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: ingrownpocket on August 21, 2012, 05:56:03 PM
Can you show total Earnings of ad slots? On the Overview page.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on August 21, 2012, 07:14:33 PM
Can you show total Earnings of ad slots? On the Overview page.
Made! Also added average revenue per 1000 impressions (RPM) for each ad slot.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on August 23, 2012, 01:59:26 PM
Image ads have been introduced!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102717.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102717.0)


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: gbl08ma on August 24, 2012, 02:47:13 PM
This is something I've been noticing since I set up banner ads at tny.im, but the style does not match the one I set up at CoinURL.

If you access http://tny.im , you'll see the color of the CoinURL ad title is blue, however, on the profile for that slot, I set it to orange to go with all the other link colors. The colors I set don't match the ones that appear :(


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on August 24, 2012, 07:16:50 PM
This is something I've been noticing since I set up banner ads at tny.im, but the style does not match the one I set up at CoinURL.

If you access http://tny.im , you'll see the color of the CoinURL ad title is blue, however, on the profile for that slot, I set it to orange to go with all the other link colors. The colors I set don't match the ones that appear :(
You have entered invalid color: "97310" (5 characters, while HTML notation requires 3 or 6 chars).


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: gbl08ma on August 24, 2012, 07:37:07 PM
The ad preview showed up right, that's why I didn't even bother checking for typos. Now I wonder from where did I take the 97310 value...

Perhaps you could make the system check for errors in order to make these mistakes less frequent?

EDIT: It seems to be fixed now, thanks. I also noticed it trims the input to six chars, while it should allow for a leading # plus six chars (most HTML editors and page inspectors show the color codes this way), making 7 chars total. Some kind of JavaScript form validation shouldn't be too hard to implement along with the ad preview... ;)


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on August 24, 2012, 11:38:31 PM
Some kind of JavaScript form validation shouldn't be too hard to implement along with the ad preview... ;)
Done!


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on August 28, 2012, 04:39:46 PM
Now you can advertise on the Daily Bitcoins (http://dailybitcoins.org) through CoinURL!


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: Matoking on August 31, 2012, 11:06:31 AM
I've been getting a bit of these MySQL errors with your ads lately :
Code:
Warning: mysqli::mysqli() [mysqli.mysqli]: (42000/1203): User bitlatsl_coinurl already has more than 'max_user_connections' active connections in /home7/bitlatsl/public_html/coinurl.com/data/dbconnect.php on line 5

Might want to adjust your settings/server. :P


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on August 31, 2012, 12:43:52 PM
Just checked, all works fine. Most probably it was just short-time overload of our hosting servers (CoinURL currently is located on the virtual server, which performance depends of the overall physical server load).
Don't worry if this error sometimes happens, in most cases it lasts only few minutes or even less.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on August 31, 2012, 06:38:32 PM
New affiliate program available.

Request verification of your website (via context menu on the ad slots page) and receive extra income through free referral link, embedded into "Ads by CoinURL" label!


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: mc_lovin on September 03, 2012, 08:32:30 PM
WARNING!  This website is serving malware.  I was always wondering why my CPU would increase when visiting this site, visitor beware!
I just went to that page and didn't get any warning. 


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on September 03, 2012, 08:34:22 PM
WARNING!  This website is serving malware.  I was always wondering why my CPU would increase when visiting this site, visitor beware!
I have placed an ad from the "ruiframe.ru" on this page, which most probably contained some malicious code. Now it is removed! Sorry for inconvenience.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: WikileaksDude on September 03, 2012, 11:26:44 PM
How long do the urls last? I couldn't find this information the FAQ.

I mean if the urls dont get clicked will they die, or they need to get clicked every X days/months ?

Thanks.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on September 03, 2012, 11:28:14 PM
How long do the urls last? I couldn't find this information the FAQ.

I mean if the urls dont get clicked will they die, or they need to get clicked every X days/months ?

Thanks.
Your links will work forever (while CoinURL exists)!


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on September 05, 2012, 02:41:02 AM
Some advertisers complained that label "Ads by CoinURL" looks ugly on the image ads. I have made redesign and now it takes only small piece of your banner, but when a user hovers mouse, appears the full label, e.g.:

http://coinurl.com/img/label.png http://coinurl.com/img/label-hover.png


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on September 06, 2012, 11:56:17 PM
We will perform database maintenance now! Don't worry if the service will be unavailable for short period of time.

UPD: Maintenance have completed.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on September 07, 2012, 04:23:45 PM
Conversion tracking have implemented! This feature lets you to measure efectiveness of the advertising campaign by tracking some actions the user have performed (e.g. signed up, made a purchase etc).

Currently our conversion tracking technology has the most complete set of features comparing to other Bitcoin advertising networks!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102717.msg1167908#msg1167908


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on September 09, 2012, 02:54:47 PM
We would like to introduce AdWords/AdSense style contextual ads for sites and search results:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=107212.0


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on September 11, 2012, 12:52:25 AM
Free promo banners available:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=108505.0


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on September 14, 2012, 03:38:58 PM
Now advertisers can specify days of the week and hours to display their interstitial and text/image banner ads.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: boonies4u on September 14, 2012, 11:10:53 PM
Now advertisers can specify days of the week and hours to display their interstitial and text/image banner ads.

Appears to be working as described. Good job!


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on September 17, 2012, 06:49:04 PM
Web hosting server went down. Don't worry.

UPD: I called hoster, admin said storage failure occured. They try to restore files from backup right now.
Database was not affected at all.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on September 17, 2012, 08:51:27 PM
Normal operation restored! Sorry for inconvenience.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: thaayb on September 18, 2012, 03:58:00 AM
There seems to be a problem again.
Instead of ads a login prompt appears on my page. Thats quite annoying.

If I connect to www.coinurl.com the same login promt shows up.

[cPanel]


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on September 18, 2012, 04:02:13 AM
We again have some problems with the hosting.
If CoinURL page doesn't opens, try to use HTTPS instead of HTTP, e.g. https://coinurl.com

For ad slots the same solution must work.

P.S. CoinURL is located on the virtual hosting, therefore I am unable to do anything. It is an early morning in the Riga now, so tech support doesn't work.

UPD: Issue solved.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on September 18, 2012, 02:04:22 PM
We would like to introduce updated site-specific ad system on the CoinURL, which solves main drawback of the site-specific-only ad systems like Operation Fabulous, but provides possibility to the advertisers to place ads only on the selected sites with desired quality traffic:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=110355.0


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on September 20, 2012, 02:16:12 PM
Now you can prevent your ads from showing on the sites containing some keywords by prepending them with the minus sign.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on September 24, 2012, 03:27:59 PM
Our web hoster have completed upgrade of the servers. I think you notice performance increase!


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: boonies4u on September 25, 2012, 01:00:28 AM
Down for me.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on September 25, 2012, 01:51:40 AM
I see, server offline now. It seems that hoster not yet completed maintenance in the term as promised.

UPD: Server alive again!


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on September 30, 2012, 01:25:50 PM
We just hit 1000 publishers who have our banner ad slots installed!


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: paraipan on October 01, 2012, 12:02:30 PM
Hi there giantdragon, you have a great service and we will start using it on Rugatu more than before  :)

We just installed the banner and some users complain getting this error message in it's place:

Code:
Warning: mysqli::mysqli() [mysqli.mysqli]: (42000/1226): User 'bitlatsl_coinurl' has exceeded the 'max_user_connections' resource

Do you know what could be the cause?


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on October 01, 2012, 01:38:49 PM
Hi there giantdragon, you have a great service and we will start using it on Rugatu more than before  :)

We just installed the banner and some users complain getting this error message in it's place:

Code:
Warning: mysqli::mysqli() [mysqli.mysqli]: (42000/1226): User 'bitlatsl_coinurl' has exceeded the 'max_user_connections' resource

Do you know what could be the cause?
Glad to see you have chosen CoinURL as advertising network for the Rugatu.

This error (exceeding limit of the maximum simultaneous connections to the MySQL database) happen if web hosting's server is just overloaded or experiencing performance drop due to some problem. Usually it happens during very short time interval, so you have no reason to worry. If it persists for longer time, notify me and I will call hosting's tech support.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: paraipan on October 01, 2012, 01:48:56 PM
Hi there giantdragon, you have a great service and we will start using it on Rugatu more than before  :)

We just installed the banner and some users complain getting this error message in it's place:

Code:
Warning: mysqli::mysqli() [mysqli.mysqli]: (42000/1226): User 'bitlatsl_coinurl' has exceeded the 'max_user_connections' resource

Do you know what could be the cause?
Glad to see you have chosen CoinURL as advertising network for the Rugatu.

This error (exceeding limit of the maximum simultaneous connections to the MySQL database) happen if web hosting's server is just overloaded or experiencing performance drop due to some problem. Usually it happens during very short time interval, so you have no reason to worry. If it persists for longer time, notify me and I will call hosting's tech support.

I understand, thank you for the fast response  :D


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: carlos on October 04, 2012, 01:22:19 PM
This error (exceeding limit of the maximum simultaneous connections to the MySQL database) happen if web hosting's server is just overloaded or experiencing performance drop due to some problem. Usually it happens during very short time interval, so you have no reason to worry. If it persists for longer time, notify me and I will call hosting's tech support.
Its been persisting for few days already - do you plan to upgrade? (sorry but 20 concurrent connections is laughable)
Also you'd be better replacing this error with custom message - our users now think that its our problem, so we'll look forward to replace your system by other better functioning.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on October 04, 2012, 01:37:42 PM
Quote
sorry but 20 concurrent connections is laughable
This limit set by hoster.

I never expected so rapid grow. About for 2 months we had about 500k daily impressions, but yesterday it increased to 1.7 million.
We will consider hosting upgrade.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: carlos on October 04, 2012, 01:42:28 PM
Quote
sorry but 20 concurrent connections is laughable
This limit set by hoster.

I never expected so rapid grow. About for 2 months we had about 500k daily impressions, but yesterday it increased to 1.7 million.
We will consider hosting upgrade.
I see... today 500k imp from hackcf.biz ... really quality site...
Nevermind, I'll stick to what is working (adsense) till you fix it.

What is currently your share of ads? Are you able to fund proper hosting with it?


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on October 04, 2012, 01:57:08 PM
What is currently your share of ads? Are you able to fund proper hosting with it?
For a long time (since CoinURL launch to this day) relatively cheap virtual hosting was enough to handle load. I have paid out 100% of the advertisers' funds, but when I will move to the more powerful server I have no other choice than start charging some fee.

P.S. Have you any suggestions for affordable VPS?


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: ingrownpocket on October 04, 2012, 05:00:50 PM
What is currently your share of ads? Are you able to fund proper hosting with it?
For a long time (since CoinURL launch to this day) relatively cheap virtual hosting was enough to handle load. I have paid out 100% of the advertisers' funds, but when I will move to the more powerful server I have no other choice than start charging some fee.

P.S. Have you any suggestions for affordable VPS?
https://btclot.com/ (https://btclot.com/web/cp.php?op=vps&type=linux)


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on October 05, 2012, 05:34:48 PM
UPD1: I have called my hosting company and they agreed to increase max connections to the database 5 fold right now, so you must not see annoying MySQL error anymore.

UPD1: We have updated stats for the advertisers. Now you can see number of both counted (for which you pay) and raw (including rejected) clicks and impressions.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: carlos on October 08, 2012, 10:57:40 AM
What is currently your share of ads? Are you able to fund proper hosting with it?
I have paid out 100% of the advertisers' funds, but when I will move to the more powerful server I have no other choice than start charging some fee.
There is no reason not to charge advertisers. So lets move to more professional platform by taking a share as commission from each click.
I'm sure that we publishers want stable platform and are able to share our revenue with middleman/you which maintains the ad feed (adsense charges at least 40%)...

Also, since you offer affiliate program I'd like to see "coinurl.com" link in the corner of each ad to bear affiliate link of each publisher.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on October 08, 2012, 01:11:51 PM
There is no reason not to charge advertisers. So lets move to more professional platform by taking a share as commission from each click.
I'm sure that we publishers want stable platform and are able to share our revenue with middleman/you which maintains the ad feed (adsense charges at least 40%)...
I decided to try donation funding model at first. But if it won't work, I will have no other choice than introducing a commission fee.
BTW, charging fees while CoinURL is not so big is very undesirable move. Our average CPC now is low comparing to the Google AdSense and
other big networks, therefore reducing it by 30-40% can drive away publishers.

Also, since you offer affiliate program I'd like to see "coinurl.com" link in the corner of each ad to bear affiliate link of each publisher.
Just click "Request verification" in the ad slot's context menu and your referral link will appear on the "Ads by CoinURL" place.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: ingrownpocket on October 08, 2012, 06:10:33 PM
Can you add an option to show unique visitors in ad slots?


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on October 08, 2012, 07:34:12 PM
Can you add an option to show unique visitors in ad slots?
Am I correctly understand, you are asking about unique impressions? If true, we collect only aggregate data about impressions for banner ads and slots with precision of one hour. Only banner clicks and interstitial ad impressions are tracked individually.

BTW, now we are receiving about 500-600k impressions per day and this number grow every day. If I would start inserting info about each impression into database (which require at least 4 fields to be uniquely tracked: ad_id, slot_id, client_ip and timestamp), it would produce
many gigabytes of data every day. In the future, if our profits will be enough to build own data center ::), this feature of course will be available!


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: ingrownpocket on October 08, 2012, 08:10:51 PM
Can you add an option to show unique visitors in ad slots?
Am I correctly understand, you are asking about unique impressions? If true, we collect only aggregate data about impressions for banner ads and slots with precision of one hour. Only banner clicks and interstitial ad impressions are tracked individually.

BTW, now we are receiving about 500-600k impressions per day and this number grow every day. If I would start inserting info about each impression into database (which require at least 4 fields to be uniquely tracked: ad_id, slot_id, client_ip and timestamp), it would produce
many gigabytes of data every day. In the future, if our profits will be enough to build own data center ::), this feature of course will be available!

I'm talking about unique impressions in the last 24 hours. (Unique visitors)
Instead of 1 hour precision it would be 24 hours.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on October 08, 2012, 10:57:04 PM
I'm talking about unique impressions in the last 24 hours. (Unique visitors)
Instead of 1 hour precision it would be 24 hours.
I have just started collecting data you are asking. After 24 hours will make these stats available!


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: Fcx35x10 on October 09, 2012, 05:02:42 AM
interesting, going to test this out :)


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on October 09, 2012, 11:32:10 PM
Unique daily views statistics now available for the banner ads and slots!


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: ingrownpocket on October 10, 2012, 08:03:47 AM
Unique daily views statistics now available for the banner ads and slots!
Thank you.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: paraipan on October 13, 2012, 02:02:31 PM
Hi giantdragon, small question here, any idea why my visitors get this error when clicking on links converted automatically by coinurl script?

Quote
Fatal error: Call to undefined function dbmainconnect() in /home7/bitlatsl/public_html/coinurl.com/data/userinfo.php on line 130

The script is installed correctly, but they don't get to see the content when I enable it, only a blank page with this error. Thanks


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on October 13, 2012, 02:28:39 PM
Hi giantdragon, small question here, any idea why my visitors get this error when clicking on links converted automatically by coinurl script?

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Fatal error: Call to undefined function dbmainconnect() in /home7/bitlatsl/public_html/coinurl.com/data/userinfo.php on line 130

The script is installed correctly, but they don't get to see the content when I enable it, only a blank page with this error. Thanks
Please provide an URL to the page where this script installed and error appears.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: paraipan on October 13, 2012, 02:38:49 PM
Hi giantdragon, small question here, any idea why my visitors get this error when clicking on links converted automatically by coinurl script?

Quote
Fatal error: Call to undefined function dbmainconnect() in /home7/bitlatsl/public_html/coinurl.com/data/userinfo.php on line 130

The script is installed correctly, but they don't get to see the content when I enable it, only a blank page with this error. Thanks
Please provide an URL to the page where this script installed and error appears.

Ok, here it is http://miui.es/index.php/topic,4550.0.html , click any of the ROM links, I enabled the script on coinurl too


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on October 13, 2012, 02:54:44 PM
Ok, here it is http://miui.es/index.php/topic,4550.0.html , click any of the ROM links, I enabled the script on coinurl too
I found this error. Yesterday I have updated the script to strengthen security, but missed to include database connector in one file.
Thank you for the bug report and sorry for inconvenience!


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: paraipan on October 13, 2012, 02:59:09 PM
Ok, here it is http://miui.es/index.php/topic,4550.0.html , click any of the ROM links, I enabled the script on coinurl too
I found this error. Yesterday I have updated the script to strengthen security, but missed to include database connector in one file.
Thank you for the bug report and sorry for inconvenience!

Wow, thank you for an awesome fast response and solving the issue. I will definitely be using coinurl for all my ad related needs.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: HostFat on October 15, 2012, 01:46:30 PM
Coinurl revenue sharing integrated with MyBB forum!
1) Add a Custom Profile Field, call it Bitcoin Address and remember its ID.
2) Download this plug-in http://community.mybb.com/thread-127455-post-923977.html#pid923977
3) Modify the ID ( from 1 ) in the plug-in code.
4) Install the plug-in

Header/footer:
Inserit the ads code with {$bcads}
Code:
<iframe scrolling="no" style="border: 0; width: 728px; height: 90px;" src="http://coinurl.com/get.php?id=xxxx{$bcads}"></iframe>

My Advertisements plug-in -> Postbit:
Use {$GLOBALS['bcads']} here instead of {$bcads}
Code:
<iframe scrolling="no" style="border: 0; width: 468px; height: 60px;" src="http://coinurl.com/get.php?id=xxxx{$GLOBALS['bcads']}"></iframe>

Then you are going to share the revenue with users that are making useful and interesting thread on your forum.

Example:
https://www.bitcoin-italia.org/forum/Thread-Ricatto-in-Bitcoin
Look at link in the ads and then look at my profile. ( I'm the creator of the thread )
My profile: https://www.bitcoin-italia.org/forum/User-HostFat
( there is the same btc address )


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: BitcoinCoffee.com on October 16, 2012, 12:22:53 AM
Edited post, resolved issue!


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on October 16, 2012, 12:42:14 AM
BitcoinCoffee.com, please contact me via e-mail before writing complaints in this thread, I will always try to help you!

CoinURL uses third-party payment notification service (bitcoinmonitor.net), so I cannot guarantee that it will have 100% uptime. Also my server might be down (or heavily overloaded) at the moment when notification request was made, so you deposit was not automatically credited. In this case just contact me and I will add funds manually as fast as I can.

Your paid 1.3 BTC was credited now!


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: BitcoinCoffee.com on October 16, 2012, 12:56:19 AM
BitcoinCoffee.com, please contact me via e-mail before writing complaints in this thread, I will always try to help you!

CoinURL uses third-party payment notification service (bitcoinmonitor.net), so I cannot guarantee that it will have 100% uptime. Also my server might be down (or heavily overloaded) at the moment when notification request was made, so you deposit was not automatically credited. In this case just contact me and I will add funds manually as fast as I can.

Your paid 1.3 BTC was credited now!

Okay, from now on I'll just post in this thread to verify!


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: paraipan on October 16, 2012, 07:19:05 PM
Service is down?


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on October 16, 2012, 07:27:07 PM
Service is down?
Just checked, works fine!


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: paraipan on October 16, 2012, 07:30:51 PM
Service is down?
Just checked, works fine!

Yes indeed, is back again :) hope you solve the server overload issues soon.

Have another few questions here, how can I remove my account if I wanted to?
Is there a way to set a "referred by" after the account was created?


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on October 16, 2012, 07:52:24 PM
Have another few questions here, how can I remove my account if I wanted to?
Is there a way to set a "referred by" after the account was created?
1. It is not possible in any way! SQL statement "DELETE", executed on the users table, will break foreign key integrity and corrupt database. I can only disable accounts (i.e. make impossible to login).
2. It is possible to set referrer field empty, but not to set arbitrary user as your referrer (due to high risk of abuse).


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: paraipan on October 16, 2012, 08:24:29 PM
Have another few questions here, how can I remove my account if I wanted to?
Is there a way to set a "referred by" after the account was created?
1. It is not possible in any way! SQL statement "DELETE", executed on the users table, will break foreign key integrity and corrupt database. I can only disable accounts (i.e. make impossible to login).
2. It is possible to set referrer field empty, but not to set arbitrary user as your referrer (due to high risk of abuse).

I understand. About the referrer don't worry, he registered form main page and after that I realized he could have done it through my link. Thank anyway


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on October 19, 2012, 11:53:43 PM
I have received a suggestion and implemented short link preview, which can be shown before a redirect is made.

http://coinurl.com/img/redirect.png


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on October 21, 2012, 06:08:35 PM
A bug causing display of the unnecessary top and left blue borders in image ads in the Internet Explorer was fixed!


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: K1773R on October 22, 2012, 08:13:28 AM
Have another few questions here, how can I remove my account if I wanted to?
Is there a way to set a "referred by" after the account was created?
1. It is not possible in any way! SQL statement "DELETE", executed on the users table, will break foreign key integrity and corrupt database. I can only disable accounts (i.e. make impossible to login).
2. It is possible to set referrer field empty, but not to set arbitrary user as your referrer (due to high risk of abuse).
how about NULL'ing the fields instead of DELETE?

greetings


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on October 22, 2012, 01:15:10 PM
how about NULL'ing the fields instead of DELETE?
When I need to lock some cheater account I do exactly as you said - set NULL password, which makes impossible to ever use this account.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on October 22, 2012, 01:44:21 PM
We are experiencing temporary problems with the server. Don't worry!

UPD: Seems issue solved now!


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: K1773R on October 22, 2012, 01:52:27 PM
how about NULL'ing the fields instead of DELETE?
When I need to lock some cheater account I do exactly as you said - set NULL password, which makes impossible to ever use this account.

i ment in in relation to deleting your account, therefore ppl can "delete" their accounts.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on October 22, 2012, 01:56:22 PM
how about NULL'ing the fields instead of DELETE?
When I need to lock some cheater account I do exactly as you said - set NULL password, which makes impossible to ever use this account.

i ment in in relation to deleting your account, therefore ppl can "delete" their accounts.
It is also possible.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on October 22, 2012, 01:56:59 PM
Unfortunately problem with hosting still persists...


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: K1773R on October 22, 2012, 01:59:15 PM
how about NULL'ing the fields instead of DELETE?
When I need to lock some cheater account I do exactly as you said - set NULL password, which makes impossible to ever use this account.

i ment in in relation to deleting your account, therefore ppl can "delete" their accounts.
It is also possible.
Then implement it, i mean there was enough ppls asking for it ;) For a good product u have to meet the wishes of ur clients.

BTW: i signed up earlier and give it a shot. google adsense scammed the heck out of me -.-


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on October 22, 2012, 02:41:46 PM
Then implement it, i mean there was enough ppls asking for it ;) For a good product u have to meet the wishes of ur clients.
It is already implemented. Just sent me an e-mail and your account will be deleted.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: K1773R on October 23, 2012, 06:44:32 AM
Fatal error: Cannot redeclare dbbannerconnect() (previously declared in /home7/bitlatsl/public_html/coinurl.com/data/dbconnect.php:4) in /home7/bitlatsl/public_html/coinurl.com/data/dbconnect.php on line 14

seems like a double include, use require_once or include_once ;)


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on October 23, 2012, 01:46:24 PM
Fatal error: Cannot redeclare dbbannerconnect() (previously declared in /home7/bitlatsl/public_html/coinurl.com/data/dbconnect.php:4) in /home7/bitlatsl/public_html/coinurl.com/data/dbconnect.php on line 14
On which page it happened?

seems like a double include, use require_once or include_once ;)
I know. But too many use of include_once can cause some performance penalty.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: K1773R on October 23, 2012, 02:57:07 PM
Fatal error: Cannot redeclare dbbannerconnect() (previously declared in /home7/bitlatsl/public_html/coinurl.com/data/dbconnect.php:4) in /home7/bitlatsl/public_html/coinurl.com/data/dbconnect.php on line 14
On which page it happened?

seems like a double include, use require_once or include_once ;)
I know. But too many use of include_once can cause some performance penalty.

profile-slots.php, $_GET['id'] =1593
altough it works fine now.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: K1773R on October 23, 2012, 04:31:03 PM
another question: is it possible that only aurumxchange has some ads running with you? i only get this one.
and a suggestion, i would love to use ur site once there is enough non BTC ADs for non BTC related sites, care to make ad filter section for this too?

greetings


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on October 23, 2012, 07:16:32 PM
another question: is it possible that only aurumxchange has some ads running with you? i only get this one.
You see only this concrete ad because advertiser have chosen some keywords present on your site or selected your site to advertise exclusively. Don't worry, CPC of targeted ads guaranteedly will be higher than network-wide.

and a suggestion, i would love to use ur site once there is enough non BTC ADs for non BTC related sites, care to make ad filter section for this too?
While CoinURL don't have any non-Bitcoin advertisers, this filter is useless.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: QuantumKiwi on October 24, 2012, 04:40:30 AM
CoinURL - Highly recommended, had a few ups and downs with the service however its great value.

Compared to google adwords - Well, instead of paying $1 per click, im paying only 0.02 per click now with coinurl and im getting clients who are related to bitcoin.

( Huge returns from advertising )

The service has been outstanding and has had its development faults which is to expected for a web service thats still building its feature set.

Ive also used the publishing side of CoinURL, excellent pay results with the autoshorten feature. Great site to make money from your site if your running a website related to bitcoins.

I cannot see how anyone would assume there is non-bitcoin related sites, because this is an anonymous bitcoin advertising and publishing service. So logically only bitcoin related sites are advertised and published.

AA - Publishing ( Pay rates could be a bit higher )
AAA++ - Advertising


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: K1773R on October 24, 2012, 05:25:36 AM
and a suggestion, i would love to use ur site once there is enough non BTC ADs for non BTC related sites, care to make ad filter section for this too?
While CoinURL don't have any non-Bitcoin advertisers, this filter is useless.
this was more likely a suggestion for the future, or do you wanna stay 100% BTC related?


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on October 24, 2012, 01:22:12 PM
this was more likely a suggestion for the future, or do you wanna stay 100% BTC related?
I don't impose restrictions on the sites advertised, non-Bitcoin advertisers also welcome!

When I will start accepting other deposit options apart Bitcoin, there will be much more different advertisers. But this is not easy from many points: technology (most likely number of publishers will increase so high that only physical dedicated server will be able to handle load), legal and personal (I have little free time for next few months).


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: ingrownpocket on October 24, 2012, 01:54:18 PM
this was more likely a suggestion for the future, or do you wanna stay 100% BTC related?
I don't impose restrictions on the sites advertised, non-Bitcoin advertisers also welcome!

When I will start accepting other deposit options apart Bitcoin, there will be much more different advertisers. But this is not easy from many points: technology (most likely number of publishers will increase so high that only physical dedicated server will be able to handle load), legal and personal (I have little free time for next few months).

Hire.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on October 24, 2012, 01:58:12 PM
Hire.
What do you mean?


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: paraipan on October 24, 2012, 02:43:54 PM

I think he means you could hire personnel


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: ingrownpocket on October 24, 2012, 02:47:41 PM
Yes, get someone you know to help you and share, if there is, profit.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on October 24, 2012, 02:51:54 PM
Right now profit margin is VERY FAR from be enough to hire employees.

My closest goal is to raise enough fund to purchase physical server and I am trying to save as much Bitcoins as I can.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: QuantumKiwi on October 24, 2012, 10:53:15 PM
Right now profit margin is VERY FAR from be enough to hire employees.

My closest goal is to raise enough fund to purchase physical server and I am trying to save as much Bitcoins as I can.


You need to open the gates a little more on your profits...

E.g a service tax for servers on all incoming funds. I know it would annoy users but ultimately it keeps the service stable.

Realistically you should be able to make an easy 100USD a month and just put the site onto a cloud VPS? Saves a lot of hassle.



Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on October 24, 2012, 11:40:30 PM
E.g a service tax for servers on all incoming funds. I know it would annoy users but ultimately it keeps the service stable.
Charging fees from incoming payments (i.e. deposits made by advertisers) is very bad idea. Advertisers, not publishers create income stream for the CoinURL and if they feel any inconvenience, it could have negative impact on the revenue.
Currently I am trying to get enough income by forcing publishers, who withdraw funds, to donate some share to the service.

Realistically you should be able to make an easy 100USD a month and just put the site onto a cloud VPS? Saves a lot of hassle.
Right now CoinURL is located on the virtual server with dynamic resources (total 16 CPU cores and 12 GB RAM) for about $20/month. If there is little load on the hosting's server from other customers, CoinURL shows excellent performance. But in some days (absolutely randomly, occurs about 1 time per few weeks) overall load on the server becomes extremely high and hosting's administrator imposes temporarily limits for me (he told that other hosting's customers complain for the poor performance and they have no other choice that limit resources for me, because CoinURL is the most resource-consuming site they host). In this case you see this annoying "max_user_connections" error.

I tried to measure performance on the dedicated XEN VPS with single core 2.4 GHz and 1 GB RAM. Result: very far from enough!

If I would start accepting non-Bitcoin users, I expect growth for tens of times in short time, server resource consumption most likely will rise so dramatically that $10-20k mainframe will be required.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on October 25, 2012, 01:00:53 AM
I have received a suggestion and implemented search capability for the shortened links.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: ingrownpocket on October 25, 2012, 12:28:38 PM
You have the same problem I had on CoinAd with the 'remember me' thing.

www.coinurl.com != coinurl.com

The browser detects www. as a different website, so cookies created in coinurl.com are not available at www.coinurl.com.
You need to redirect users from www.coinurl.com to coinurl.com or vice-versa (you can either do that on your server settings or with php header).

I think the same thing happens with $_SESSIONS.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on October 25, 2012, 02:08:31 PM
You have the same problem I had on CoinAd with the 'remember me' thing.

www.coinurl.com != coinurl.com

The browser detects www. as a different website, so cookies created in coinurl.com are not available at www.coinurl.com.
You need to redirect users from www.coinurl.com to coinurl.com or vice-versa (you can either do that on your server settings or with php header).

I think the same thing happens with $_SESSIONS.
Enabled auto redirect to non-www domain. Please report if you see some errors.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: K1773R on October 26, 2012, 02:39:16 PM
a simple question as i cant find any information about it:
what is the min/max for url shortening income per 1k visitor?

greetings


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: ingrownpocket on October 26, 2012, 02:58:50 PM
a simple question as i cant find any information about it:
what is the min/max for url shortening income per 1k visitor?

greetings

Max seems to be 0.08.

https://coinurl.com/stats-ad-list.php?page=1&type=interstitial (https://coinurl.com/stats-ad-list.php?page=1&type=interstitial)

BTC411.com Bitcoin Blog
CPM Bid: 0.08000000 BTC
http://btc411.com


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on October 26, 2012, 03:47:15 PM
a simple question as i cant find any information about it:
what is the min/max for url shortening income per 1k visitor?

greetings
For 1k impressions most probably you will have value very close to the average, i.e. about 0.027 BTC.
https://coinurl.com/stats-global.php


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on October 28, 2012, 05:12:12 PM
You can try your luck and get CoinURL vouchers absolutely for free on the Daily Bitcoins (http://dailybitcoins.org)!


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: MPOE-PR on October 28, 2012, 05:51:26 PM
You can try your luck and get CoinURL vouchers absolutely for free on the Daily Bitcoins (http://dailybitcoins.org)!

Giving this a try.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: MPOE-PR on October 28, 2012, 07:19:32 PM
Here you go. (http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/coinurl-a-bitcoin-advertising-service/)


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: ingrownpocket on October 28, 2012, 07:31:11 PM
Here you go. (http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/coinurl-a-bitcoin-advertising-service/)

You made me LOL


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on October 28, 2012, 07:50:35 PM
Here you go. (http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/coinurl-a-bitcoin-advertising-service/)
Author wrote a post about CoinURL in his blog without fully understanding how CoinURL work. My comments about it:

1. On the first image you hide status of the impression. Impressions made by automatic tools (bots) are being rejected and you have not to pay for them.
2. If you don't want to receive traffic from some publishers which you are considering to be junk, block them in the Targeting options.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: ingrownpocket on October 28, 2012, 08:16:37 PM
Here you go. (http://polimedia.us/trilema/2012/coinurl-a-bitcoin-advertising-service/)
Author wrote a post about CoinURL in his blog without fully understanding how CoinURL work. My comments about it:

1. On the first image you hide status of the impression. Impressions made by automatic tools (bots) are being rejected and you have not to pay for them.
2. If you don't want to receive traffic from some publishers which you are considering to be junk, block them in the Targeting options.

Also, try banner ads.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on November 01, 2012, 02:45:05 PM
Payment notification service we use seems to have some issues now.
If you made a deposit and funds were not credited, write me an e-mail to process the deposit manually.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on November 01, 2012, 07:50:51 PM
Issue with the payment notification service have been solved!


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: K1773R on November 02, 2012, 08:55:08 AM
what happend here?
http://darkgamex.ch/upload/Oj1XBVG02U55xHsB72gT/403-forbidden-coinurl.png

has your hoster screwd u over lol?


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: thaayb on November 02, 2012, 01:39:53 PM
what happend here?
http://darkgamex.ch/upload/Oj1XBVG02U55xHsB72gT/403-forbidden-coinurl.png

has your hoster screwd u over lol?

This doesn't look good /:


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: K1773R on November 02, 2012, 01:44:38 PM
well, a site that translates native to russian should never be trusted, first rule :S


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: thaayb on November 02, 2012, 02:06:25 PM


I hope the Service will go online again!


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: K1773R on November 02, 2012, 02:31:40 PM
i dont think so ;)


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on November 02, 2012, 02:36:32 PM
Some problems with the hosting, don't worry!


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: TenDrawBTC on November 02, 2012, 02:55:42 PM
When you think you'll be back online?


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: K1773R on November 02, 2012, 02:56:00 PM
good, have fun fixing it ;)


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on November 02, 2012, 03:52:59 PM
Server online again!


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: paraipan on November 02, 2012, 04:33:26 PM
Server online again!

Overloaded and slow as the speed of turned off light.

Do you need some help setting up mysql cacheing and the memcached daemon on your vps? Shot me a pm if you do.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on November 02, 2012, 04:50:31 PM
Do you need some help setting up mysql cacheing and the memcached daemon on your vps?
BTW, just few hours ago I called hosting's admin and he suggested the same (memcached) ;)
So I will try to enable it for CoinURL scripts.

Unfortunately I have no root access to the hosting's server and support don't work at weekends, therefore I could be able to deploy changes only on beginning of next week.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: paraipan on November 02, 2012, 05:19:34 PM
Do you need some help setting up mysql cacheing and the memcached daemon on your vps?
BTW, just few hours ago I called hosting's admin and he suggested the same (memcached) ;)
So I will try to enable it for CoinURL scripts.

Unfortunately I have no root access to the hosting's server and support don't work at weekends, therefore I could be able to deploy changes only on beginning of next week.

Got it, until then you probably need to optimize the platform's code to properly use caching. Here (http://www.php.net/manual/en/book.memcache.php) is the best guide I found. I remind you that if you're code isn't optimized memcached would do very little or not work at all, but if you do it you could gain between 65-70% in server's performance. Keep us updated  ::)


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: ingrownpocket on November 02, 2012, 05:23:49 PM
Maybe you want to try PDO instead of mysqli.

http://wiki.hashphp.org/PDO_Tutorial_for_MySQL_Developers (http://wiki.hashphp.org/PDO_Tutorial_for_MySQL_Developers)


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on November 02, 2012, 05:52:09 PM
paraipan, as I said later, I am unable to setup memcached right now because have no root access to the server and hosting support don't work at weekends.

P.S. Problems you see rather frequently are caused by hosting's server overload triggered by all it's customers. In the "rush hours" (occurs regularly few times a week) total query flow on all sites (not only CoinURL, but hundreds others which physically reside on this server) becomes so high, that even simple pages without many queries (like Daily Bitcoins, which located on the same hosting) load very slow.

Memcached may help, but I don't think much. The main problem is that shared hosting for large services like CoinURL are unsuitable, but profit is very far from enough to buy decent dedicated server.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: gbl08ma on November 02, 2012, 07:00:24 PM
paraipan, as I said later, I am unable to setup memcached right now because have no root access to the server and hosting support don't work at weekends.

P.S. Problems you see rather frequently are caused by hosting's server overload triggered by all it's customers. In the "rush hours" (occurs regularly few times a week) total query flow on all sites (not only CoinURL, but hundreds others which physically reside on this server) becomes so high, that even simple pages without many queries (like Daily Bitcoins, which located on the same hosting) load very slow.

Memcached may help, but I don't think much. The main problem is that shared hosting for large services like CoinURL are unsuitable, but profit is very far from enough to buy decent dedicated server.

Why don't you try to make some profit by taking fees somewhere between the advertiser and the affiliate, and buy a dedicated/virtual server for your websites? I know reducing other people's profit is not the perfect solution, but I can't think of any one better though.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on November 02, 2012, 07:13:46 PM
Why don't you try to make some profit by taking fees somewhere between the advertiser and the affiliate, and buy a dedicated/virtual server for your websites? I know reducing other people's profit is not the perfect solution, but I can't think of any one better though.
I am already charging 25% "compulsory donation" from all withdrawals, but Bitcoin ads market is so tiny that without an investor I would be able to buy even small dedicated server (~$3k) not earlier that after a year.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: ingrownpocket on November 02, 2012, 09:03:58 PM
Why don't you try to make some profit by taking fees somewhere between the advertiser and the affiliate, and buy a dedicated/virtual server for your websites? I know reducing other people's profit is not the perfect solution, but I can't think of any one better though.
I am already charging 25% "compulsory donation" from all withdrawals, but Bitcoin ads market is so tiny that without an investor I would be able to buy even small dedicated server (~$3k) not earlier that after a year.

~$3k? dafuqqqqqqq, that's wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy too much.

https://btclot.com/webcp/cart.php?gid=3 (https://btclot.com/webcp/cart.php?gid=3)


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on November 02, 2012, 09:16:51 PM
Carlos L., you incorrectly understood me!
I told about physical server purchase, but you are suggesting me to rent it from some anonymous unincorporated entity, located in the USA (which can easily suspend my account any time for any reason).


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: ingrownpocket on November 02, 2012, 10:12:09 PM
Carlos L., you incorrectly understood me!
I told about physical server purchase, but you are suggesting me to rent it from some anonymous unincorporated entity, located in the USA (which can easily suspend my account any time for any reason).

So... You're not renting a server but purchasing one? I'm a little confused right now.
You can trust BTCLot, I use all their services and never had any problem.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: Coinbuck @ BTCLot on November 02, 2012, 10:18:18 PM
Carlos L., you incorrectly understood me!
I told about physical server purchase, but you are suggesting me to rent it from some anonymous unincorporated entity, located in the USA (which can easily suspend my account any time for any reason).

You must have trust issues and it is understandable.

But I'm not a anonymous entity, never ment to be.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on November 02, 2012, 10:43:35 PM
So... You're not renting a server but purchasing one? I'm a little confused right now.
I said if I would have enough funds and market capacity to recoup expenditures I would buy a physical server.
Renting a VPS with guaranteed resources is bad idea for resource-consuming service, IMHO. I tried 2.4GHZ/1GB RAM XEN VPS, but it is not enough (works even slower than average non-peak time on the current shared hosting). Renting a server with resources I need would cost $100-200 per month, which is equivalent 1.5 years to fully payoff it.

You must have trust issues and it is understandable.

But I'm not a anonymous entity, never ment to be.
No personal, I just don't want to locate server in the USA!


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: BitcoinCoffee.com on November 03, 2012, 08:50:54 AM
CoinURL admins:

Just confirming that I have sent an inquiry due to me forgetting my password.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on November 03, 2012, 02:23:23 PM
Just confirming that I have sent an inquiry due to me forgetting my password.
I have sent you new password. Check e-mail.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: BitcoinCoffee.com on November 03, 2012, 09:33:37 PM
Password did not work with username.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on November 03, 2012, 10:32:52 PM
Password did not work with username.
I checked username and password I have sent you today via e-mail. Works fine!
What error do you see?

BTW, you must enter both username and password without quotes.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on November 04, 2012, 08:10:03 PM
Good news!

I have added Memcached to the CoinURL scripts and tested on the affordable XEN VPS node I have in the reserve.
To my luck, this node can handle 10 times (or even more) higher load that CoinURL has now. Ad loading time is acceptable.

Next week I will try to move CoinURL on the this node, so I hope you will never see annoying "max user connections" errors anymore!


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on November 06, 2012, 09:04:12 PM
Memcached have been activated. Please report if something goes wrong!


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: paraipan on November 06, 2012, 09:07:31 PM
Memcached have been activated. Please report if something goes wrong!

Good news  8) will do

Edti: Works like a charm yay


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: ingrownpocket on November 06, 2012, 09:57:31 PM
Fatal error: Class 'Memcache' not found in /home7/bitlatsl/public_html/coinurl.com/data/banner-process.php on line 165


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on November 06, 2012, 10:22:49 PM
Fatal error: Class 'Memcache' not found in /home7/bitlatsl/public_html/coinurl.com/data/banner-process.php on line 165
Where this error appears?

UPD: It seems that Memcached need to be configured to support SSL.
Temporarily change https to http in the request code.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on November 07, 2012, 01:54:38 AM
Another temporary solution for publishers who use SSL banner calls - add "&ssl=1" to the request code, e.g.
https://coinurl.com/get.php?id=1781&ssl=1

In this case old script without Memcached will be used.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: ingrownpocket on November 07, 2012, 08:45:24 AM
Fatal error: Class 'Memcache' not found in /home7/bitlatsl/public_html/coinurl.com/data/banner-process.php on line 165
Where this error appears?

UPD: It seems that Memcached need to be configured to support SSL.
Temporarily change https to http in the request code.

That's not an option.

Another temporary solution for publishers who use SSL banner calls - add "&ssl=1" to the request code, e.g.
https://coinurl.com/get.php?id=1781&ssl=1

In this case old script without Memcached will be used.
It still breaks the secure connection.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on November 07, 2012, 02:26:37 PM
Another temporary solution for publishers who use SSL banner calls - add "&ssl=1" to the request code, e.g.
https://coinurl.com/get.php?id=1781&ssl=1
It still breaks the secure connection.
Very strange, for me it works fine. Place "https://coinurl.com/get.php?id=1781&ssl=1" into iframe src on CoinAd and let me check.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: ingrownpocket on November 07, 2012, 02:45:38 PM
Another temporary solution for publishers who use SSL banner calls - add "&ssl=1" to the request code, e.g.
https://coinurl.com/get.php?id=1781&ssl=1
It still breaks the secure connection.
Very strange, for me it works fine. Place "https://coinurl.com/get.php?id=1781&ssl=1" into iframe src on CoinAd and let me check.
I thought you were saying this: "http://coinurl.com/get.php?id=1781&ssl=1"

Sorry  ;)


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on November 13, 2012, 08:42:55 PM
To provide more frequent updates of the ad list I have reduced time-to-live in Memcache from 30 to 10 minutes! I hope it will not affect the performance.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: paraipan on November 13, 2012, 09:07:07 PM
To provide more frequent updates of the ad list I have reduced time-to-live in Memcache from 30 to 10 minutes! I hope it will not affect the performance.

Not at all, the real cache purpose is to lower the load on the DB and vps's CPU many times per second so you could actually lower the caching to 30 seconds if needed and you will not suffer any service issues. Actually having the cache setting under a minute is recommended so other functions of the website don't start getting affected, like user login or stats.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on November 13, 2012, 10:42:33 PM
Not at all, the real cache purpose is to lower the load on the DB and vps's CPU many times per second so you could actually lower the caching to 30 seconds if needed and you will not suffer any service issues. Actually having the cache setting under a minute is recommended so other functions of the website don't start getting affected, like user login or stats.
Load generated by frontend (registration, login, stats etc) is not significant, so I don't use Memcache at all for it.

Only ads list is being cached. Matching targeting options each time, when an ad is shown, is very resource-consuming operation. Therefore I store this list in the cache and retrieve when the same user opens a page with CoinURL ad slot again. Ads are not updated so frequently, therefore 10 minutes interval must be acceptable, IMHO.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: paraipan on November 13, 2012, 11:02:34 PM
Not at all, the real cache purpose is to lower the load on the DB and vps's CPU many times per second so you could actually lower the caching to 30 seconds if needed and you will not suffer any service issues. Actually having the cache setting under a minute is recommended so other functions of the website don't start getting affected, like user login or stats.
Load generated by frontend (registration, login, stats etc) is not significant, so I don't use Memcache at all for it.

Only ads list is being cached. Matching targeting options each time, when an ad is shown, is very resource-consuming operation. Therefore I store this list in the cache and retrieve when the same user opens a page with CoinURL ad slot again. Ads are not updated so frequently, therefore 10 minutes interval must be acceptable, IMHO.

In that case I agree with you  :) good job dude, now we have a reliable service.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on November 17, 2012, 03:18:15 PM
Record high payout worth 3 BTC made to the one of our publishers!
http://blockchain.info/address/1KCEZcLjFD98oN2Ss6h88vAfmFyzVvsG7s


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: HostFat on November 20, 2012, 04:30:02 PM
I see that now the 25% "donation" is "forced".
Will you maintain this choice in the future?


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on November 20, 2012, 08:25:31 PM
I see that now the 25% "donation" is "forced".
Will you maintain this choice in the future?
CoinURL operation costs increased recently and I cannot afford to cover these costs from my own money (CoinURL is a business entity, not a charity organization). May be commission fee will be reduced with the turnover increase.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on November 24, 2012, 12:50:45 AM
Now advertisers can see how much funds were spent on each ad on it's stats page.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: videos4btc on November 25, 2012, 07:47:32 PM
Now advertisers can see how much funds were spent on each ad on it's stats page.

Cool deal going to give this a try very soon!  ;D


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on December 09, 2012, 05:49:12 PM
Display your banner for the CoinURL customers and get awesome conversion rates!
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=129953.0


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on December 15, 2012, 03:59:17 PM
We have decided to stop counting all clicks from the Vietnam because 99.9% of the traffic coming from this country is full crap. I hope CoinURL advertisers will receive higher quality traffic they have paid for and better conversions.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: Bro on December 26, 2012, 04:47:51 PM
is coinurl.com related to bitcoinadvertising.com?

I notice that the template looks very similar


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on December 26, 2012, 04:59:56 PM
CoinURL has no affiliation with BitcoinAdvertising. As many other sites, we just both use the same Twitter Bootstrap template United (http://bootswatch.com/united/).


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: crazyearner on December 28, 2012, 11:31:12 PM
I have some questions about your servicers.

I have sent vailed traff to your services for my ads and also my urls yet I have not been paid for current traffic sent to my urls and people who have clicked on links.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on December 29, 2012, 02:12:26 AM
I have some questions about your servicers.

I have sent vailed traff to your services for my ads and also my urls yet I have not been paid for current traffic sent to my urls and people who have clicked on links.
Not all clicks are counted. Of course false positives always exist, even some legitimate clicks sometimes may be rejected.
Send more details on our e-mail, I will tell you why clicks were not counted.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: owenmichaels on December 29, 2012, 11:33:05 PM


All helpful indeed!


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: SlickTheNick on December 31, 2012, 03:20:39 AM
Is coinurl down for anyone else? It seems like its been down off and on all day


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on December 31, 2012, 03:31:26 AM
Is coinurl down for anyone else? It seems like its been down off and on all day
Our hosting's server experiences some difficulties. I hope they will fix soon!

UPD. Now seems to work OK!


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on January 12, 2013, 05:16:56 AM
Some problems with the web hosting's server. Don't worry!

UPD1. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=136120.0


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on January 12, 2013, 06:08:34 PM
Server up now!


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: SlickTheNick on January 13, 2013, 08:25:36 AM
I have a question.. is your process for validating clicks just really slow, or are a ton of clicks just rejected? My expected earnings have passed 0.5 BTC several days ago and are now over 0.6, however I have only ever actually received around 0.13 all together. It would be nice if it showed you how many clicks have been validated VS how many were rejected, so that publishers arn't just left in the dark.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on January 13, 2013, 03:41:37 PM
Column "expected earnings" you see on the "My ad slots" page was calculated according to our previous system, which had been replaced to
the more advanced few months ago, so these numbers are incorrect. To remove uncertainty I have deleted this field. Your real earnings are being displayed on the "Transactions" page.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: SlickTheNick on January 13, 2013, 05:58:46 PM
Thanks for the clarification


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: SlickTheNick on January 13, 2013, 11:52:59 PM
random suggestion: you should turn PHP error reporting off.. there has been several times that I have come to the site or tried to go to my profile where I was just given a blank page with PHP errors showing file paths and what lines of code the page failed on.. IMHO probably not a very good idea from a security standpoint, and PHP errors can show important database information as well. Just sayin


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on January 14, 2013, 12:54:23 AM
random suggestion: you should turn PHP error reporting off.. there has been several times that I have come to the site or tried to go to my profile where I was just given a blank page with PHP errors showing file paths and what lines of code the page failed on.. IMHO probably not a very good idea from a security standpoint, and PHP errors can show important database information as well. Just sayin
Error reporting helps me to understand what happens with the server (with this crappy cheap hosting it happens rather frequently). All scripts have protection against SQL injections, so I don't think it is a problem. CoinURL got many hacking attempts, all of them failed.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on January 14, 2013, 07:48:44 PM
Please read about situation with our hosting:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=136497.0


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: gbl08ma on January 14, 2013, 07:50:59 PM
Apart from the downtime, lately I'm getting a lot of "Server overloaded. Please come back later!" messages shown on the ad slots on my website.
I don't know if this message is served by your scripts (i.e. you can change it) or by the hosting provider.
If you have the power to change it, would you please take off the "Please come back later!" part for when the problem is with ad slots? Because visitors of my website (specially first-time visitors) may think the problem is with my server and that they should come back later to my website, when it is operating properly and the overload is just in the ad slot, a problem that is actually out of my control.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on January 14, 2013, 08:20:17 PM
If you have the power to change it, would you please take off the "Please come back later!" part for when the problem is with ad slots? Because visitors of my website (specially first-time visitors) may think the problem is with my server and that they should come back later to my website, when it is operating properly and the overload is just in the ad slot, a problem that is actually out of my control.
It is my message. Now it returns just free page.

UPD. Redirect via short links restored!


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: QuantumKiwi on January 15, 2013, 12:17:01 AM
it appears your hosting is having some issues? Are you in need of some cloud hosting?

Any ETA available on restoration?

Regards,
Logan


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on January 15, 2013, 01:44:54 AM
Any ETA available on restoration?
Hosting's admin said it would re-enable MySQL server for my account tomorrow (but with limited resources - he admitted in overselling and said he cannot give me full performance because other users complains).
I have exams soon, so I cannot spent much time on configuring the server within next 2 days.


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: QuantumKiwi on January 15, 2013, 02:15:00 AM
I think we may need to sort something out for you cloud hosting wise, You cannot leave your site offline for longer than 12 days.

Feel free to PM me, happy to help out...


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on January 15, 2013, 02:26:16 AM
You cannot leave your site offline for longer than 12 days.
As I said before, hosting's admin promised to restore operation tomorrow. I really don't have free time now to configure new server...


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on January 16, 2013, 08:22:53 PM
CoinURL closed. Domains available for sale!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=136900.0


Title: Re: [CoinURL] All ways to monetize your content!
Post by: giantdragon on January 17, 2013, 09:15:28 PM
CoinURL sold to new owner:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=137084.0