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Title: Buy 300€ BTC with PayPal, old account, serious buyer.
Post by: albans59 on September 28, 2014, 09:06:09 PM
Hello,

I need 300€ in bitcoin, i pay with PayPal.

You need to have good reputation here ;)

Thanks

UPDATE: Ok, maybe i'am new. But i can prove my serious, i can show you my 8 years old PayPayl account with complaint, my verified VirWox account, same for my Paymium account.

Someone just try to scam me in this topic, scammers are very quick to talk to me: so for safety of the seller, and mine, i will use Strongcoin.com for the escrow, this site was created in 2011, there are not scammers friends. ;)


Title: Re: Buy 300€ BTC with PayPal, old account, serious buyer.
Post by: deadley on September 28, 2014, 09:07:06 PM
Hello,

I need 300€ in bitcoin, i pay with PayPal.

You need to have good reputation here ;)

Thanks

We don't need good reputation to sell Bitcoin, you need good reputation to buy Bitcoin with Paypal.


Title: Re: Buy 300€ BTC with PayPal, old account, serious buyer.
Post by: Kassenzettel on September 28, 2014, 09:16:13 PM
www.virwox.com use this here you will not buy it :)


Title: Re: Buy 300€ BTC with PayPal, old account, serious buyer.
Post by: haploid23 on September 28, 2014, 09:31:07 PM
You need to have good reputation here ;)

Why don't you apply that to yourself.


Title: Re: Buy 300€ BTC with PayPal, old account, serious buyer.
Post by: albans59 on September 28, 2014, 10:16:59 PM
I don't know who give me a "-1" reputation trust ? But try to know me or ask for more information if you need !

I know VirWox but too much fees (with 300€ i have 261€ in BTC), and i need 300€ much more to buy my asic. I have reach my daily limit on Virwox, that's why i am searching for someone, sellers have just 2 asics miners in stock and for this price i need to be quick for order. ;)

You can see i have an account "grade 3", but reached the limit.
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Title: Re: Buy 300€ BTC with PayPal, old account, serious buyer.
Post by: albans59 on September 28, 2014, 11:14:19 PM
I can't send more PM.

Send me your contact bitcoinequipped


Title: Re: Buy 300€ BTC with PayPal, old account, serious buyer.
Post by: bitcoinequipped on September 28, 2014, 11:20:58 PM
k


Title: Re: Buy 300€ BTC with PayPal, old account, serious buyer.
Post by: albans59 on September 28, 2014, 11:25:59 PM
You can edit or delete your mail now. I will contact you ;)


Title: Re: Buy 300€ BTC with PayPal, old account, serious buyer.
Post by: bitcoinequipped on September 28, 2014, 11:35:17 PM
sorry man i dont do thirdparty website escrow , thats ano no here


Title: Re: Buy 300€ BTC with PayPal, old account, serious buyer.
Post by: albans59 on September 29, 2014, 12:01:55 AM
bitcoinequipped have tried to scam me. But i am not a noob, too much scammers here !!! :(

He alert me with his PM, so i give him an alternative mail to contact him.

He ask me many times with spam PM like "i am ready" "i've just been scammed", he give me his mail, when i contact him, i send him the escrow service link, but he don't want to use the escrow service. Strange !

So i've investigating, and what a surprise ? Same paypal address on scam report:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=698967.new

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=695760.0

bitcoinequipped = bitcoinlpotter

Contact mail: konmon52@aim.com

PayPal account: lpotter13126@gmail.com

Don't try to send something to this pp account, you will probably be scammed.



So i'am still searching for someone serious ;)


Title: Re: Buy 300€ BTC with PayPal, old account, serious buyer.
Post by: DannyHamilton on September 29, 2014, 12:08:31 AM
I have been contacted by albans59 requesting me to hold escrow for this transaction for him.

Unless albans59 changes his mind and decides to pay with an irreversible payment method, I will be unable to hold escrow in this transaction.

Following is the PM that I sent to him regarding this matter:

- snip -
Can you help me with the escrow please ?

I buy . . . with PayPal
- snip -

The purpose of using an escrow provider when engaging in bitcoin transactions with an untrusted party is to protect the bitcoin provider from the possibility that the bitcoin receiver may not deliver as promised.

By holding the bitcoins, the escrow provider can wait until the bitcoin provider has successfully received whatever was agreed upon before releasing the bitcoins to the bitcoin receiver.

Unfortunately, it is impossible to provide such protections in PayPal transactions.  It is possible for the person whose account was used to pay with PayPal to contact PayPal days (or even months) after the transaction and dispute the charges.  If they do this, PayPal will take the money back from the bitcoin provider (withdrawing it from their bank account or charging it to their credit card if necesary).  The bitcoin receiver will then have stolen free bitcoins from the bitcoin provider.

If PayPal is unable to take the money back from the bitcoin provider, they will sometimes cancel the bitcoin provider's PayPal account so that they can no longer use PayPal for any other transactions.

Because of these risks, and the fact that I'd have to hold the bitcoins for at least 6 months to feel comfortable that the PayPal transaction will not be charged back, I cannot hold escrow for PayPal transactions.

If you still want to take the risk and engage in a PayPal transaction you have two choices:

  • Complete the transaction without escrow. Since escrow can't protect the seller anyhow, the risk of being scammed/robbed is the same with or without escrow.  If the seller believes that you wouldn't dispute the charges with PayPal, then they don't have anything to worry about anyhow.  If you steal their bitcoins, then you would have disputed the charges, so their risk is the same either way.
  • Find another escrow provider that is willing to lie to you, and tell you that they can protect both parties in this transaction.  Hope that an escrow provider who is dishonest enough to provide a false sense of security is trustworthy enough not to run off with your bitcoins